From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #379 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, May 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 379 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:48:51 -0700 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) Engine Case Touch-up Paint For those of you guys 'n' gals with the green engine cases ('96-'99 models), who've scratched them up riding in the sticks, I've found a near match touch-up paint. Duplicolor brand, type SF GM481, colour title Medium Dk. Lichen. I was concerned that it might not hold up to the heat but after a few hundred miles, its holding up perfectly. The stuff is available at most auto parts stores. Darrel A12 'avenger' L.A. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:20:03 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) A couple of questions NKLR >> All of your questions can be answered by searching the list >> archives at: >> >> http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Wow! You're right. Type in 'What is the meaning of life?' and you get 4 >different posts! > >Sarah no, now you get 6... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:54:39 EDT From: Roundr1@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) A couple of questions Anton fired this off: >I almost always max out my bike and was wondering if any damage >would be done on riding the KLR at max speed all the time. Anytime an engine runs it's being damaged. There's less damage from running at redline than lugging your engine, but always riding at the klr's maximum 105 mph {5th gear redline} will cause major repair work long before one that cruises at a more sedate 80. To paraphrase Todd's post from last year, every engine has a given potential. You can use it up fast, or use it sparingly to increase it's longevity. It's up to you and what you want out of your bike. If you must run this fast, at least make sure the mixture isn't too lean at WOT, set aside plenty of markies, and put Fred Hink on your ...speed dialer. John O. A10 - Hurry!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 23:39:06 -0300 From: nbenda Subject: (klr650) NKLR: real testing Sorry for the bandwidth... Last test Mike-hopefully connecting from the girlfriend's house-D. A13 "Marmaduke" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:23:15 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Distance award at Moab99 2125 is 1 way. Return we are doing 4250 kms. Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Haycock To: KLR LIST Cc: Sean Gallagher Date: May 6, 1999 6:43 AM Subject: (klr650) Distance award at Moab99 >From: "Arne Larsen" >Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR info > >>With this bike you can go practically wherever >>your dreams might lead you. A run from the >>logging roads of Washington State to the Incan >>ruins of Peru (and back!) is very doable on this >>machine. Good luck, and keep the questions >>coming! Later... >> >>Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR >>"The Happy Hooligan" > >My friends at work are telling me that I'm crazy (Vik, Brian, and myself > >will be riding approx 2100 kilometers from home to MOAB) for doing this. > >They're trying to talk me into throwing my bike in the back of my truck >and >driving down. I figure too much pride and a bottle of ibuprophin will >see >me through. > >Arne - hoping there will be a resident (swedish) massage therapist on >call >in MOAB... > >Sean Gallagher and I might have you beat! We are riding from Atlanta, >Georgia to Moab and back - about 3,000km (1,800 miles) > >Bill > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:59:20 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) You might be a redneck...NKLR Anybody play Redneck Rampage for the PC? Crazy! When you play and fire the gun, etc. it simulates a drunks delayed response. Gamers-Try it! I love it when you drink too much of that "cheap assed whiskey" and you can't control the guy anymore, he stumbles around sideways and laughs. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:06:58 -0500 From: "Tom Meagher" Subject: Re: (klr650) Why no 6 -- stubborn Klarabelle -- Linda, While I know nothing about the KLR250's except how cool they look, I have a lot of kick-starting experience with lots of bikes, and like Jeff said, once you figure out the sacred recipe, they generally are a joy. I wish I could put one on my A13. sigh... One thought does come to mind, though, as the worst starting experiences I've ever had have been with tired old motors that had crummy compression, due to shot rings or valves, or whatever. Is it possible that your compression is weak? On normal engines you can measure it by sticking a compression gauge in the spark plug hole and cranking it over a few times. The 250 may have some kind of auto-compression-release gadget that may invalidate such a measurement, but there will be some other procedure to measure the compression. Also, per Jeff's flooding comment, one drill for clearing a flooded motor is to kick it over 4 times real slow with the throttle full open, and the ignition off, leaving it just before the compression stroke (you have to judge it by the feel, and I can't stress enough the importance of starting the kick from the right place in the stroke). Then turn the ignition on, throttle closed, and give the best kick you got in your butt, timing it so that your maximum kick energy transfer peak arrives right as the piston hits TDC of the compression/spark stroke. One really powerful kick is worth 100 tired out ones. And, as with comedy and love, timing is everything. Your exact recipe and results may vary... Good luck, Tom Meagher Houston TX A13 >BTW, the carb has now been torn down and cleaned. The bike was started, but >it's no easier to start. Started the first time on the third stroke. >Whoopee - hoping for a portent of good things. Let it stall (stupid, >stupid) and it didn't restart until oh say the 87th stroke. Warmed it up >good, let it stall again (arggggh) and it started again on the 143rd stroke. > >This is getting old fast. > >LindaT. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 02:36:03 EDT From: S2Mumford@aol.com Subject: (klr650) How fast can they go In a message dated 5/6/99 8:59:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << (klr650) How fast will they go? > I'm curious, > what do most of you get for a > top speed? << I've had my 95 KLR650 to an indicate 95mph on flat road with Touratech panniers, Stage 1 jet kit and Laser pipe, laying on the tank with feet on the passenger pegs >> 105 on the speedo down a flat level freeway car pool lane, no luggage, no windshield, no tank hug. Big Gun exhaust, Dynojet stage 1, K&N, stock tires, likes long walks on the beach and music. I tend to ride like an idiot after watching too much Speedvision; Please no more top speed questions. No questions about longest jumping / biggest wheelies either please. CA Stu The only way to find out how strong a rubber band really is is to stretch it until it breaks... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 04:51:58 -0700 From: "Karl Raupp" Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Why don't they wave? > I am starting to form the opinion that riders wave, but posers stare straight > ahead as if you are not there. > Mark McCoy This has been my experience also. Although I've only been riding bikes for a little over 3 years, the only time I've never been waved back to is by what I would consider the posers. Even when I first started riding it was on a Honda Elite scooter, and the HD riders still waved. Karl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:52:41 EDT From: Oilie@aol.com Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Why don't Gold Wingers wave? I got this (from of all place, the Harley Digest): TOP TEN REASONS GOLD WING RIDERS MAY NOT WAVE BACK 10...Wasn't sure whether other rider was waving or making an obscene gesture 9...Afraid might get frostbite if hand is removed from heated grip 8...Has arthritis and the past 400 miles have made it difficult to raise arm 7...Reflection from etched windshield momentarily blinded him 6...The expresso machine just finished 5...Was actually asleep when other rider waved 4...Was in a three-way conference call with stock broker and accessories dealer 3...Couldn't find the "auto wave back" button on dashboard 2...Was simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height, programmable CD player, seat temperature and satellite navigation system and the Number One reason Gold Wing riders Jim Henry, Co-Honcho Republic Of Texas Biker Rally Travis County Expo Center in Austin 4-6 June 1999 oilie@aol.com 972-386-7619 vox/fax 972-866-8363 rally hotline info don't wave back: 1...They couldn't see through the glare from the chromed dash accents ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 08:38:19 -0400 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Engine Case Touch-up Paint At 07:48 PM 5/6/99 -0700, Darrel & Deanna wrote: >For those of you guys 'n' gals with the >green engine cases ('96-'99 models), who've scratched them up riding in the >sticks, I've found a near match touch-up paint. Duplicolor brand, type SF >GM481, colour title Medium Dk. Lichen. I was concerned that it might not >hold up to the heat but after a few hundred miles, its holding up perfectly. >The stuff is available at most auto parts stores. Just as an aisde, the '96 models had the same black engine cases as the pre-'96 bikes. The gray-green cases came along with the '97 year model. This is the one distinguishing feature of the '96 vs the '97-98 bikes. Then again, if somebody has a late '96 that is different, let me know. Mine was one of the first '96 bikes. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 06:33:23 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) Why no 6 I think its flooding also. Perhaps the needle seat is hanging up or the float setting may be too high. What kind of shape is the spark plug in? Is it gapped correctly? Is it the correct plug? That is a cheap enough thing to change on a gamble. Stay after it. You are close! Everything happens in its own time. Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:39:43 -0400 From: "Steamroller" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- First Speeding ticket What state are you in? In New York, providing you behaved yourself, you should be able to reduce the ticket to an 1180-A (don't quote me on that) which is "disobeying a speed control device". 2 points and a $70 dollar fine, $40 for the ticket plus a $30 surcharge. Then you take the defensive driver course and get the points removed. Do = it fast enough and it should blow right by your insurance company, before th= ey raise your rates. Good luck, NY Pete - -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Y. Gonz=E1lez To: KLR LIST Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 1:27 AM Subject: (klr650) NKLR- First Speeding ticket > >Hey guy/gals, > >Just got back from a long beautiful day of backroad bombing with the KLR. >I was putting the bike away when I saw my wifes GS500E sitting there >lonely, wanting to play. Since it hadn't been out for a while, I decide= d >to take it for a short spin. Anyway, a little later I got out to a long= , >smooth, empty stretch of highway. I flicked on the brights (it was dark >out) and opened her up to run it throught the gears. This bike is no sp= eed >demon, but it can move if you wait long enough. Well, I waited long >enough, and apparently so did the cop that was following me. > >The blue and reds came on, and I pulled over. Damn it, my first speedin= g >ticket, and its going be a whopper, I thought. The cop said that I was >going faster than 80mph, as he said his speedo read 80 and I was still >pulling away from him (limit was 55mph). At this point, I'm thinking my >license is going bye-bye, not to mention my insurance. But I remained >cool, told him how surprised I was that I was going that fast, and prett= y >much remained humble. He came back from his squad with the news: anyth= ing >over 80mph in a 55mph zone is a 15 day suspension, 6 points and 140 buck= s, >GULP. He told me that he was reducing it to 4 points and 110 bucks, and= no >suspension. Since he didn't have a radar speed on me, he nailed me for >unreasonable and imprudent speed. Oh well, could have been worse I >suppose. > >So besides venting to everyone (thanks, BTW), does anyone think I have a >chance to get this reduced in court. Getting it thrown out is doubtful, >but at least lowering the points would be nice. I've never had to fight= a >speeding ticket, so if anyone that has been here before can send some >courtroom strategies my way I would appreciate it. > >Thanks for the bandwidth, and TIA for any suggestions, > >Carlos >91 KLR650 "Big Blue" >93 GS500E "Outlaw" > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:36:40 EDT From: GVBettes@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #377 In a message dated 5/6/99 3:08:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > Anybody know of an aftermarket source? > Thanks. Got mine from Dennis Kirk. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:12:07 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) Dual Star Quick... Before I go out the door... Vik and I are going to Seattle in a short while here... Anyone have the address for Dual Star handy? Thanks, Arne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:28:13 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Fw: (klr650) Dual Star Still haven't left yet... Any takers? Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Arne Larsen To: KLR 650 Date: May 7, 1999 8:26 AM Subject: (klr650) Dual Star >Quick... Before I go out the door... > >Vik and I are going to Seattle in a short while here... Anyone have the >address for Dual Star handy? > >Thanks, >Arne > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:36:04 -0700 From: "Mark Machin" Subject: Re: (klr650) Correction- Trip to Baja Designs Brian- The approx size of the rubber flap is 5" wide and 4" deep. I drilled two holes in the flap for attachment to the fender holes, about 3/4" inch from the top so the flap would clear the drain hose that is routed through the rear fender on my A13. The bottom of the flap rests (not-attached) midway on the center of the swingarm and has sufficient length to stay in position. This allowed the flap to continue the curve of the fender and provide the best protection for the rear shock. I have been in some rough spots and the flap has remained in position to-date. Even if it were to move to the inside front area of the swingarm, it would still protect the shock. I had to loosen the rear brake fluid reservoir away from its mount to get my fingers into and connect the right attachment bolt to the fender. I used small SS bolts/nuts with washers and loctite to prevent over-tightening and possible tearing of the rubber flap. All of the material used was just laying around in my garage so the price was right. Good luck. Mark - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Mark Machin Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 1:32 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Correction- Trip to Baja Designs > Hey Mark, I wanted to make something liek you descibed. If you make this item > does the bottom of the rubber piece in front of the tire and hang between the > tire and the swing arm (not affixed to anything at the bottom) so that it can > ride inside the swing arm when the rear suspension is working ? If you could > give me alittle more explanation please...I have never seen one before...Thanks > Brian > > Mark Machin wrote: > > > Correction to my previous message- The attachment holes on the rear fender > > for the shock protector are obviously just behind the rear shock and not in > > front. (Too fast on the send button.) > > > > Mark > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mark Machin > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 6:25 AM > > Subject: Re: (klr650) Trip to Baja Designs > > > > > An alternative to the aftermarket rear shock protector is to make one > > > yourself. I just completed this 15 minute project on my A13 using misc > > > parts sitting in the garage. There are two holes already present in the > > > bottom of the rear fender in front of the shock that are ideal to attach a > > > shock protector cover. I used some black stiff rubber mat trimmed off of > > a > > > car floor mat, drilled two holes in it, and fastened to the factory fender > > > holes. I cut the mat size to the width of the fender and long enough to > > > curve around and rest on the frame. It works well and looks like a > > factory > > > built cover. Very simple and easy to do. > > > > > > Mark > > > A13, COG 1977 > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #379 ****************************