From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #380 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, May 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 380 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:41:16 -0700 From: "Phil Kopp" Subject: RE: (klr650) Dual Star Dual Star PO Box 6112 Lynnwood, WA 98036 USA +1 (800) GO-N-RIDE (466-7433) Orders +1 (425) 776-RIDE tech line +1 (425) 776-8876 Fax I sent this directly to you right after your first post. ?? Have a good ride! - -Phil Arne Larsen > Subject: Fw: (klr650) Dual Star > Still haven't left yet... Any takers? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:19:39 -0700 From: "Prospexx" Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #378 Jeff wrote, >...I almost always max out my bike and was wondering >if any damage would be done on riding the KLR at max >speed all the time... > >I'm not sure what max speed is on my ride, but when >drilling my mechanic (dealer) for information >regarding what the highest rate of repair was on the >KLR, I was surpassed when he told me there is not much >you can do to hurt it other than lube neglect and >pushing it too hard. I questioned deeper and he told >me about a rider opening the throttle for 45 min's >straight on his way to work every day... until he >burnt a hole in the piston (must have been other >factors involved) but has had internal, top-end >problems since, it was an A13, making it fairly new. I >don't know, but I plan on taking care of it, as I want >it to take care of me! At an engineering level, piston speed determines safe engine speed. Modern materials and lubricants have taken most of the concern away from crankshaft rpm. Honda has engines that can run all day long in the 10,000 range because they have kept piston speed down, by using extremely short stroke. Mean piston speed is the factor, and a rule of thumb is 80% of maximum can be maintained with reliability. Run your bike down the highway over that and you better keep your credit card number on file with Fred Hink. Tom tomck@prospexx.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:08:01 -0400 From: motormark@mindspring.com Subject: (klr650) Moose bash plate part # I have e-mailed Dennis Kirk and asked if the Moose bash plate part # 51-1577 would work on my 99 KLR650. Here is the response I got.----> Thank you for your interest in Dennis Kirk and the merchandise we carry. PN51-1577 will not fit your application. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you. For additional technical advise please contact our Tech Service on their direct line at, 1-320-358-4793. They are available Mon-Fri, 8AM-8PM central time. Have a nice day! Chris Dennis Kirk, Inc. cmt@denniskirk.com So, I'm still looking for a Moose for my '99' KLR. Will those work? Maybe they are the same and DK just dont know it? Dose anyone with a '99' have a moose with that part #? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:36:55 +0000 From: snsi@win.bright.net Subject: (klr650) Adapting KLX mufflers to KLR Howdy All, I'm wondering what it takes to adapt a KLX exhaust to use on a KLR? Just a hanger, a pipe OD adapter? TIA Jeff Smith Barnes, WI '71 A-HD Sprint 350; '97 Kawasaki KLR650 (King o'La Road) "Beware the dirt bike ... Ground shaking dirt bike" TMBG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hooper Subject: (klr650) Chain contact with frame!!!! OK guys, I need some help! I started disassembling the KLR rear suspension a couple of weeks ago to do a lube job. I ran into a snag getting the rocker off, and got some good input from some of the folks on this mailing list to get over that hurdle. Anyway, I got it apart and lubed, then went out to New Mexico for some R&R. I got back yesterday, re-assembled the bike, and went for a quick check ride. I found that the chain is making light, intermittent contact with the nut on the back side of the attach flange for the rear subframe. It appears that the chain now rides slightly (maybe 1/8 inch) further to the left. I have pulled it back apart, but I don’t see anything wrong, and I don’t see any adjustment to compensate. At this point, I’m stuck! I can’t see what I did wrong, and I can’t see any technique to correct it. Has anyone had this situation before? Any suggestions??? Thanks, John Hooper _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:16:35 PDT From: "Conall O'Brien" Subject: Re: (klr650) Moose bash plate part # I think Dennis Kirk told you that because the KLR gear shifter interferes with one of the four U-shaped mounting brackets for the Moose skid Plate. Attach with 3 of the mounting brackets and it works just fine, and a rock solid mount as well. They told me the same thing but I ordered it anyway. They do returns if it won't work out. FWIW >From: motormark@mindspring.com >Reply-To: motormark@mindspring.com >To: >Subject: (klr650) Moose bash plate part # >Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:08:01 -0400 > >I have e-mailed Dennis Kirk and asked if the Moose bash plate part # >51-1577 >would work on my 99 KLR650. Here is the response I got.----> > >Thank you for your interest in Dennis Kirk and the merchandise we carry. >PN51-1577 will not fit your application. > >I'm sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you. > >For additional technical advise please contact our Tech Service on their >direct line at, 1-320-358-4793. They are available Mon-Fri, 8AM-8PM >central >time. > >Have a nice day! >Chris >Dennis Kirk, Inc. >cmt@denniskirk.com > > > So, I'm still looking for a Moose for my '99' KLR. Will those work? Maybe >they are the same and DK just dont know it? Dose anyone with a '99' have a >moose with that part #? > > > > Conall A4 KLR650 http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 15:46:15 -0400 From: Mark Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain contact with frame!!!! I don't know what year your KLR is, but I had this problem when the teeth (splines) on my '90 Tengai front spocket keeper plate were worn. The keep= er plate then was not doing its job and the front sprocket slowly drifted to the left. I discovered the problem when I began hearing noise. Mark B2 A2 SNIP >I found that the chain is making light, intermittent contact with the nu= t >on the back side of the attach flange for the rear subframe. It >appears that the chain now rides slightly (maybe 1/8 inch) further to >the left. I have pulled it back apart, but I don=EDt see anything wrong, >and I don=EDt see any adjustment to compensate. At this point, I=EDm >stuck! I can=EDt see what I did wrong, and I can=EDt see any technique t= o >correct it. Has anyone had this situation before? Any suggestions??? > >Thanks, >John Hooper ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:06:45 -0700 From: brbo@uniserve.com Subject: (klr650) Dumb Laws in Utah.. http://www.dumblaws.com/ I can see the light now, with Kurt's - Canadian beer infatuation... So does mean I will have to stop to give the right of way to all your little feathered friends on the HWY. ?? Fred please no milk for refreshments.. chow Brian - bringing his own beverages ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:42:22 -0700 From: brbo@uniserve.com Subject: Re: (klr650) DualStar wrenches I am sold on the Toolworks set and the axle wrenches and nuts - however I thought some time back there was some discussion with the concern of heat build up with attaching anything to the headlight - and that is the reason most people looked at alternatives to affixing the protector away from the lens. If the protector at Dual Star is directly affixed to the lamp's lens would this not cause possible failures ?? Thanks, Brian Bill Haycock wrote: > > If you have not already done so, take a look at some of the DualStar > products at: > > http://www.dualsport.org/dualstar/index.html > > Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:55:53 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Dumb Laws in Utah.. Yeah, drinking in that state is a trip. Ordered a drink at a restaurant in Salt Lake, and was brought a virgin drink, with a little airplane bottle that I had to pour and mix in on my own, like they will sell the booze to you, but but they can't pour it. Jeff >http://www.dumblaws.com/ > > I can see the light now, with Kurt's - Canadian beer infatuation... >So does mean I will have to stop to give the right of way to all your >little feathered friends on the HWY. ?? >Fred please no milk for refreshments.. > >chow >Brian - bringing his own beverages > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:05:48 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) DualStar wrenches >I am sold on the Toolworks set and the axle wrenches and nuts - however I >thought some time back there was some discussion with the concern of heat >build up with attaching anything to the headlight - and that is the reason >most people looked at alternatives to affixing the protector away from the >lens. If the protector at Dual Star is directly affixed to the lamp's lens >would this not cause possible failures ?? > Interesting question. Lets see, the material doesn't act as a filter, so it won't retain (very little anyway) heat from absorption of the light spectrum broadcast from the bulb. The only thing I see is in the material being a better insulator than glass, so while it might not retain much heat, it will insulate the glass some from radiating heat away to the air. I wonder how much insulation it would provide, and if this would even be a factor while traveling at speeds of say, greater than 20-25 mph. The material is what, 80 mils thick? I'm sure that if I could find the time, I could reference a table of thermal properties for this stuff. What I really want to know is this though. Didn't somebody on the list say that they found it at an autoparts store for way cheaper? Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:37:46 -0400 From: "J.Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) DualStar wrenches Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: > Didn't somebody on the list say that they found it at an > autoparts store for way cheaper? > > Jeff Yeah, for about $8 here in FLA, covers nearly four headlights if you are judicious in your cutting. Jake in Jacksonville ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:26:30 EDT From: RUSIG1@aol.com Subject: (klr650) 2 into 1 forks? Many years ago I used to have a 2 into 1 arrangement for the fork caps of my 82 XL500 to equalize the pressure in the forks. I am thinking this would be a good setup for my A13. Do people still use this system? I have not seen it advertised anywhere. Is it still available? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:53:00 -0700 From: Mark C King Subject: (klr650) Good deals in the Bay area ? Northern California : Anyone seen any good offers on KLR650's in the Bay area/ Northern California . I have been quoted $6000 out the door price at my local dealer which is outside of my price range. regards Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:00:48 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: (klr650) Check those switches! Just thought I'd drop a line or two. Went for a 100 mile ride today with the new Clearview +9 windshield. Took I-40 east out to Tijeras Canyon exit in the wind! Does ok - so so, in those 30+ mph winds. Went south on 337 (Old South 14) and was all by myself on those curves! I was running some of those 30 mph curves at 60-70 mph! Really rounded out my tires. Way too much fun. I don't think my stupid switch wasn't on. But, the have fun switch was! These two switches are side by side on my instrument panel and they are real close together, I found out. I scared myself once. I drifted into the other lane (it was empty) on a tight curve. I knew the other lane was empty. But, what scared me was that I got to thinking about my what I did! It's a bitch when one gets older and starts thinking about them fears. Shit! I hate it when I do that. Maybe some day my fears will save my life. When I got home last night from Colorado and getting the new windshield from Clearview, I tested it out up on Tramway (like an expressway) during sunset. I didn't want to go back the same way I went out because of the sunset and the plastic cover was still on the windshield. So, I came back through some dirt roads and played in the dirt as the sun set. 28 psi in the back tire on a gravel road is too much air there I found out. I survived, made it home, and took off the protective plastic from the windshield. This new Clearview windshield is thinner gauge plastic than the Kawa "Taller" windshield. The Kawa is better material optically too. Less distortions. The Kawa is just too short! Check you switches before you ride. Have fun. See ya, - -- Jeff, NM, A13 & '74 TR5T Triumph Adventurer (A Triumph that could tractor) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 19:04:33 -0400 From: "LindaT" Subject: RE: (klr650) Why no 6 I don't get any indication that it's flooded (other than it won't start). The plug is new, correct and gapped properly. After I've gotten tired of kicking it, I've pulled the plug and it's slightly moist and sooty. I'm really tired of it and every shop I've talked to has a two week backlog. So, it's going to sit out there taunting me until the 20th. I don't know what else to do. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (55K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ Robert Morgan I think its flooding also. Perhaps the needle seat is hanging up or the float setting may be too high. What kind of shape is the spark plug in? Is it gapped correctly? Is it the correct plug? That is a cheap enough thing to change on a gamble. Stay after it. You are close! Everything happens in its own time. Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:19:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Bootle Subject: (klr650) Source of VIBBBRRAATIIOONSS found! Thanks to all of you who sent me e-mail about this problem. I have not solved the problem but I know it is related to the balancer mechanism. Here is what I did to troubleshoot. I checked the balancer adujstment bolt. It was loose! I tightened it up and tried the bike. No change. I loosened it again and tightened and tried. No change. I then decided I would have to go into the motor. I drained the oil (mobil 1 15w50) though a filter. No particles. So far so good. I took the shift lever off. I took the left hand side engine case off. Note here, the ignition wires don't come off so I wire tied the cover to the bike frame. AH-HA! I found a very twisted very sick looking spring like thing laying under the magneto. (this is what is left of the balancer spring) (I'll post a picture next week- you'll cringe.) So now I'm trying to get the magneto off. No such luck. I'll get a breaker bar and try again. Then I have to pull the magneto out. The manual calls for a special tool. Does anyone know what normal (cheap and available) tool will suffice for this job? Thanks so much, -Tim _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 16:21:32 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hooper Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain contact with frame!!!! I got a suggestion from Tim and Mark to take a look at the countershaft sprocket. I have not fiddled with it, but I will check it out. Thanks for the suggestion. Having a fresh (unfrustrated) input on what to consider is always appreciated. John _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:21:17 PDT From: "Conall O'Brien" Subject: Re: (klr650) Good deals in the Bay area ? >From: Mark C King >Reply-To: Mark C King >To: klr650@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (klr650) Good deals in the Bay area ? >Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:53:00 -0700 > >Northern California : > >Anyone seen any good offers on KLR650's in the Bay area/ Northern California . I have been quoted $6000 out the door price at my local dealer which is outside of my price range. > >regards > >Mark > > Mark- Try Diablo Kawasaki-BMW in Walnut Creek Ca. A month ago they had a '99 KLR 650 for $4350 or roughly $4900 out the door. Good luck. Their # is 510-938-8373. Conall A4 KLR650 http://www.angelfire.com/co/klr650/index.html _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. 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