From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #431 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, May 24 1999 Volume 02 : Number 431 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:14:32 -0400 From: John Smith Subject: (klr650) Rear brake noise. My rear brake was making a very high pitched tone after riding for about 30 minutes this past Saturday afternoon. I say tone because it really didn't sound like squeaking or metal against metal. It was more like the resonance frequency of the disc. I only heard it when I applied the rear brake a little harder than normal, but it was very loud as many people walking on the sidwalks grimaced at me. The disc and caliper were so hot that you could easily burn yourself. I'm certain that the brake is not touching the disc when not applied. Also; it was the first really hot day of the year and I'm riding an A13 with 600 miles on it. Haven't heard it since then, any ideas? Thanks in advance, - -Brian Shepard shepard@drexel.edu Philadelphia, PA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:40:56 PDT From: "Conall O'Brien" Subject: Re: (klr650) Rear brake noise. High rotor temperatures are normal on the KLR (in my experience) and so is the noise you heard, under certain conditions. Could have been the xtreme braking and the temp. Check your pads, fluid and then recheck. Caliper bolts ok? Conall >From: John Smith >Reply-To: John Smith >To: KLR650@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (klr650) Rear brake noise. >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:14:32 -0400 > >My rear brake was making a very high pitched tone after riding for about >30 minutes this past Saturday afternoon. I say tone because it really >didn't sound like squeaking or metal against metal. It was more like the >resonance frequency of the disc. I only heard it when I applied the rear >brake a little harder than normal, but it was very loud as many people >walking on the sidwalks grimaced at me. The disc and caliper were so hot >that you could easily burn yourself. I'm certain that the brake is not >touching the disc when not applied. Also; it was the first really hot >day of the year and I'm riding an A13 with 600 miles on it. >Haven't heard it since then, any ideas? Thanks in advance, > >-Brian Shepard > shepard@drexel.edu > Philadelphia, PA > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:50:28 PDT From: "Conall O'Brien" Subject: Re: (klr650) Longevity of KLR650's I have exceeded 61500 miles on my '90 KLR, with no major problems so far. I am thinking about the counter-balancer Mod and my clutch is just now beginning to slip. What's the list's ideas on what kind of clutch upgrade I should get? Barnett? Conall >From: "Tom Simpson" >Reply-To: "Tom Simpson" >To: >Subject: Re: (klr650) Longevity of KLR650's >Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:22:16 -0400 > > > >---------- > > From: Douglas Dick > > To: Klr650@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: (klr650) Longevity of KLR650's > > Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:23 PM > > > > I am currently considering a purchase of a KLR650 as a long range >touring > > mount. How many miles can a KLR 650 be expected to last before needing a > > major engine rebuild? (Assume 70/30 hwy/off) and oil change with >synthetic > > every 2000 miles > > > You want some round numbers? > >Counterballancer Assy: 40-60,000 mi. >EngineTop End: 60,000 >Core Engine Bottom End: Indefinate > > >-Tom >'96 KLR 650 >34,300 miles > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:55:55 -0400 From: "J.Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) Rear brake noise. The untouchable temp of the rotor immediately after a ride is normal. Brake pads still make minimal contact when the rotor is turning. I usually notice the same "resonant" sound after I replace the pads (or in your case, new pads from factory). If it bcomes too annoying for me, I pull the pads and lightly sand them with emory paper and clean the rotor with alky-hall (alcohol) or disk brake cleaner and reinstall. This usally solves the squeak problem. Avoid getting alcohol or disk brake cleaner on or near the dust seals or other rubber parts on the brakes. I have no S.O.P. from any manufacturer to back this statement but it just seems prudent to keep a desicant away from rubber parts. Jake in Jacksonville, court adjudicated desicant youth in his early years (not really) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:56:18 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Really NKLR - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: Arne Larsen ; Jeff & Lisa Walker ; Chris ; KLR Date: May 24, 1999 8:22 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Really NKLR >> >>More recently now I've had half a dozen knee surgeries, including an ACL >>reconstruction. Each time I go off I gain weight. At approx. 15 - 20 lbs a >>time, I'm now peaking at 270 (I hope I'm peaking and not plateauing =^/) >> >>O.K. - enough whining Arne... > > >Gino is putting the finishing touches on the Moab agenda and I'm going to have him add a couple >of sections of KLR'robics....for us...(g) > >Kurt Perfect! I'll be sure to pack my Richard Simmons wig and leotards =^) Arne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:59:26 -0400 From: "J.Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) Longevity of KLR650's-CLUTCHES I have run Barnett clutches in my Triumphs for years with nary a complaint. Not sure of the cost for a KLR but negligible for a Brit bike. Takes a full forearm to pull it in tho... Jake, mistaken for Popeye on a long Triumph ride Conall O'Brien wrote: > What's the list's ideas on what kind of clutch upgrade I > should get? Barnett? > > Conall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:58:30 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) What's in a name... (NKLR) - -----Original Message----- From: George Basinet To: Jeff & Lisa Walker Cc: Arne Larsen ; KLR 650 Date: May 24, 1999 8:43 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) What's in a name... (NKLR) > > >Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: >> >> I guess that means I >> >can also call the bike "Kato" (which just happens to be our >> cat's name) for >> >short. >> > >> Kato was Inspector Cleuso's servant in the "Pink Panther", the >> guy that always jumped out and attacked him when he wasn't ready. >> That's who I think about anyway. >> >> Jeff > > >Wasn't that also the name of The Green Hornet's manservant? It used >to be on radio. > >George (listening) Yes. Played by Bruce Lee. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:05:24 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) Re: Honda mirrors I have been using them for a day now. They look like normal mirrors except that they're mounted in a rubber bushing, which mounts into the stock KLR mirror mount. The rubber bushing helps absorb much of the vibration, making it possible to see what's behind you. The mirrors seem to be a little tighter than the Kawi's and hold their adjustment really well. As for the price, I don't know if they are any cheaper than a Kawi, I just think they're better. They run about $34 each. Sorry, no pics. Arne BTW, Fred Hink sells them. - -----Original Message----- From: kris.cichon@gsa.gov To: alarsen@rapidnet.net Date: May 24, 1999 9:04 AM Subject: Honda mirrors > > > > Hi Arne ... > > My namer is Kris .. and I am ridding with my girfriend Mariola > on two KLR6650 '98 > I have noticed You use Honda mirros on yours bike ... > Since we have neverendingstory .... with mirros on our bikes > ... and frankly speaking .. we are pissed off with Kawasaki > price for mirror replacement .. we would like to know how do > Honda mirrors go with KLR.. what did You do .. how does it look > like .. and how does it hold up ... any jpegs we can see ?? > Thanx in advance > Kris&Marioa > 2XKLR650 Chicago > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:06:32 -0400 From: "J.Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) Really NKLR Arne Larsen wrote: > >>More recently now I've had half a dozen knee surgeries, including an ACL > >>reconstruction. Arne! Is there anything left to repair?! FWIW, there are Gore-tex knee replacements out there. The Gore-tex replaces the ACL and weathers the brunt of flex where the natural stuff has failed. I guess that you could say it would be hard to get water on the knee in that case (man, that sucked!) Jake, whose KLR was paid for by knee reconstructions (my wife is an Ortho Surgical Physician Assistant) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:17:53 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Really NKLR - -----Original Message----- From: J.Taylor To: KLR650@lists.xmission.com ; Arne Larsen Date: May 24, 1999 6:14 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Really NKLR >Arne Larsen wrote: > >> >>More recently now I've had half a dozen knee surgeries, including an ACL >> >>reconstruction. > >Arne! Is there anything left to repair?! FWIW, there are Gore-tex knee >replacements out there. The Gore-tex replaces the ACL and weathers the >brunt of flex where the natural stuff has failed. I guess that you could >say it would be hard to get water on the knee in that case (man, that >sucked!) > >Jake, whose KLR was paid for by knee reconstructions (my wife is an >Ortho Surgical Physician Assistant) They used hamstring tendons out of the same leg to make a new ACL. I think the reconstruction is holding up O.K. (so far) but with onle 15% of the cartilage left in the knee, there is more instability, which aggrivates the joint during any extended/prolonged/repetative activety (read running). Arne - who wishes his wife would have bought his KLR =^) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:13:22 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) Flat tire stuff Pokluda, Gino F wrote: > > So I ride the KLR to work today. A little later, discover I took a nail in > the rear tire. No problem except my toolkit and patches are in the right > saddle bag... of my DR350 which is 35 miles away. > > Anyone every use that Tire Inflate stuff on a tube type tire setup? Need > just enough to get me home. > > Gino Gino, Roofing nails are the absolute worst. Did you try bending the nail over with your pliers and then tapping it with a large rock (rivet method) to see if you could obtain a good seal?.....I didn't think so. I used the Spare Tire in a can stuff on the front tire of a Yamaha 650 and it worked OK for umpteen foolish miles. Don't ask me the brand because they've probably gone out of business since then and been replaced by better formulas but basically its a liquid that injects into the tire valve and they recomend you spin the tire to slosh it around inside (like pepto bismol) and it expands enough to be firm and safe for a recovery ride. Just feel around the inside of the tire for any rough spots before you install the new tube. I've used the patch kits on my peddle bike and they work amazingly well but it's sure a lot easier to use Spare Tire in a can on a motorcycle when you're in the middle of nowhere (unless the air loss was caused by something more than a hissing leak). No need to hassel and sweat until you get home. It is nice however to have a center stand for pre-ride tire spin. If you're in a real jam you can stuff hay, grass, leaves, or anything that is pliable enough to squeeze into the tire and take up space if you have absolutely no other course of action. I read about some rider who had to do this in South America somewhere in a bike mag a few years back. And guess what I'm going to get a fresh can of and put in my tank bag this week because the one I have (Snap, fix-a-flat) is about 10 years old (may not be reliable anymore). It's been a real thrill to go through the last couple of tire sets without any punctures. I have found that it's a good idea to avoid riding in areas or in sandy residue left on the road where the highway department has been doing Spring-time sweeping to reclaim sand for next winters use. Anything that was laying by the side of the road like glass, tin cans, nails, broken car pieces etc... that doesn't get deposited in the truck gets tossed around and redeposited into the traveled portion of the road until usage, weather and time forces it off to the side again. I had a tire puncture on my A2 with less than 500 miles on it near a state forest about 15 miles from my house because of this type of situation. Whew....just remembered how far I had to walk the bike to the ranger station pay phone that day. I don't want to do that again. Jeff A2 AMA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:41:10 -0700 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: Re: (klr650) Really NKLR, really > >Kurt > > Perfect! I'll be sure to pack my Richard Simmons wig and leotards =^) > > Arne > >== Arne....and it might be a good idea to bring a backup bar of bath size Dial soap, I know I am. eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:44:43 -0400 From: A Todd Emsley Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Stuart has made it! " 7000+ miles on the MT21's?? That's pretty good, yeah? " I was just wondering the exact same question. I was shamed by a punk with a new set of MT21's last weekend in the dirt. What kills me is that he had a DR350, which by what I've heard around here is one of the best tight woods bikes designed by man. Imagine me on the ol' street bike KLR buzzing this DR that looks like a dirt bike with lights. But, the reality is I am mostly on street. Can someone survive on the road with MY21's? Will the last longer than 500 mi.? I am using Trailmax's now, they are GREAT on the road. Todd A11 Still pretty fast imagine that ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:21:48 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) GPS Cable We like the Garmin "cigarette lighter adapter" (#10085). Garmin makes a raw "power cable"(#10082) but it has four wires that are about as big as the two wires in the "10085". The bigger wires of the "10085" are more robust and easier to attach to. Just cut the cig lighter end off. The "10085" is about 5 feet long. Tom ================================== > Hi, I have a GPS III Plus and I want to connect it to my KLR 650's >battery.  Is there a special type of cable like cigarette lighter >adaptor I can buy or do I have to use a regular cable? +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:39:45 EDT From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Really NKLR, really In a message dated 5/24/99 7:42:23 PM Mountain Daylight Time, eroads@teleport.com writes: << > > Perfect! I'll be sure to pack my Richard Simmons wig and leotards =^) > > Arne > >== Arne....and it might be a good idea to bring a backup bar of bath size Dial soap, I know I am. eric >> I think he should bring an umbrella! Gino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:33:16 -0700 From: "Rob Gendreau" Subject: Re: (klr650) The Moab Slick Rock Bike Trail NKLR John made some good points about some people's attitudes towards bikers, powered by either legs or motors. But I disagreed with the term "environmentalist" to describe these folks. Sure, some are "environmentalists," and motorcycles do affect the environment (as do hikers, backpackers, climbers, paddlers, etc.) But you can be an environmentalist and ride a motorcycle, so I don't like to see"them" get to paint themselves self-righteously green while attempting to close off all motorized recreation. After all, they may be the ones cutting you off in the twisties, while you're on your 50 MPH KLR, with their smog-belching 12 MPH SUV as they drive to the hiking trail. So who's more of an environmentalist in that situation? - -- Rob Gendreau Oakland, California gendreau@ccnet.com ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #431 ****************************