From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #434 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, May 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 434 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:02:18 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Honda mirrors I may have noticed a bit more of an improvement because I also siliconed my handlebar and installed Acerbis rally Pro handguards. Every little bit helps. Also, the harminics of every bike are different. When Vik installed his Supertrap etc.., the vibration all but disappeared from his mirrors, but now his footpegs buzzzzzz. Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Oilie@aol.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: May 25, 1999 6:01 AM Subject: (klr650) Honda mirrors >Like Arne, I, too, just recently got a Honda mirror from Fred for my A11. I >installed it on the right side and went out for a test ride yesterday. My >first impression after a short ride is that it is definitely more >vibration-proof that the stock mirrow I still have on the left side--but only >*slightly* so. Anyone who expects the Honda mirror to be a major, >earth-shaking improvement is likely to be severely disappointed. > >Jim Henry, Co-Honcho >Republic Of Texas Biker Rally >Travis County Expo Center in Austin >4-6 June 1999 >oilie@aol.com >972-386-7619 vox/fax 972-866-8363 rally hotline info ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:07:18 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Do you use these tires? Looks like a very nice tire if you stick to the street most of the time and your offroad excursions aren't too technical. I would put them in the same class as the Avon Gripster 24 series. Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Jeff To: klr list Cc: KLR-Digest Date: May 25, 1999 6:50 AM Subject: (klr650) Do you use these tires? >Is any one currently using these running shoes? I am looking for any feed >back on these Michelin Sirac tires for dual sports. > >http://www.michelin.com/us/eng/tire/moto/tires/sirac.htm > >-- >Jeff, NM, A13 >http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj - Down Home Page >http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj/hamstuff - HAM It UP Page >http://www.biker.net/klark/ - My KLR Page > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:06:16 EDT From: Oilie@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Radio mount RC says: >I am also a licensed Ham operator and would like to figure out a >good way to mount a small handheld type radio in the front faring area, >securely. I want to use a headset in my helmet for this radio, with the PTT switch mounted on the handlebars, which I already have..no problem >there. I am just at a loss on ideas on "how to mount the radio". >It looks like a walkie talkie type of radio, except with much longer >range and many more frequencies. >It can take some viberation and bumps, but nothing real extreme, >consistently anyway! >I would also like to be able to quickly take the radio out of it's mount >(?) to use it away from the bike, if neccessary. A cheap and simple way (though not very elegant) to mount a radio (or GPS or electrical whatever) is simply to tuck it face-up into the clear plastic pouch on top of your tank bag. (You DO have a tank bag, don't you?) Not only is it easy to get to and/or remove from the bike, it's also virtually water proof. Just stuff some soft sponge rubber (or dirty socks) underneath it, and it's also fairly vibration resistant. This is not rocket science. Jim Henry, Co-Honcho Republic Of Texas Biker Rally Travis County Expo Center in Austin 4-6 June 1999 oilie@aol.com 972-386-7619 vox/fax 972-866-8363 rally hotline info ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: dan shaw Subject: Re: (klr650) Do you use these tires? (siracs) i put a pair of siracs on my bike a few months ago. im pretty happy with them. the only other tires ive tried are the stock ones and they are better than the stock. i have heard that they are bettter than the gripsters for wet pavement. dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff > To: klr list > Cc: KLR-Digest > Date: May 25, 1999 6:50 AM > Subject: (klr650) Do you use these tires? > > > >Is any one currently using these running shoes? I > am looking for any feed > >back on these Michelin Sirac tires for dual sports. > > > >http://www.michelin.com/us/eng/tire/moto/tires/sirac.htm > > > >-- > >Jeff, NM, A13 > >http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj - Down Home Page > >http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj/hamstuff - HAM It UP > Page > >http://www.biker.net/klark/ - My KLR Page > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: dan shaw Subject: Re: (klr650) Do you use these tires? (siracs) i put a pair of siracs on my bike a few months ago. im pretty happy with them. the only other tires ive tried are the stock ones and they are better than the stock. i have heard that they are bettter than the gripsters for wet pavement. dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff > To: klr list > Cc: KLR-Digest > Date: May 25, 1999 6:50 AM > Subject: (klr650) Do you use these tires? > > > >Is any one currently using these running shoes? I > am looking for any feed > >back on these Michelin Sirac tires for dual sports. > > > >http://www.michelin.com/us/eng/tire/moto/tires/sirac.htm > > > >-- > >Jeff, NM, A13 > >http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj - Down Home Page > >http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj/hamstuff - HAM It UP > Page > >http://www.biker.net/klark/ - My KLR Page > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:02:11 -0400 From: "Karl V. Huebner" Subject: (klr650) Fw: GS11 aux fuel pump Can it work with the KLR? All: This is from Joe Putnam, a BMW GS'er who is damn innovative. I think it may be adaptable to the KLR gas tank... Karl V. Huebner Columbus, Ohio 95 R 11 GS 89 R 100 GS 95 KLR 650 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Putnam To: Karl V. Huebner Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:50 AM Subject: RE: GS11 auxiliary fuel pump installation. > Karl, > > Sure. > > It is in the 'public domain'. ;) > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl V. Huebner [mailto:alaomega@columbus.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:18 AM > To: putnamj@norand.com > Subject: Re: GS11 auxiliary fuel pump installation. > > > Joe: > > Not only does my R11GS have the extra reserve that this project address as a > fix, so does my KLR.... to the tune of about 1 gallon. > > Can I repost this message tot the KLR /Dual Sports list, giving you due > credit? > > > Karl V. Huebner > Columbus, Ohio > 95 R 11 GS 89 R 100 GS 95 KLR 650 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Putnam > To: BMW -GS motorcycles mailing list > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:40 AM > Subject: GS11 auxiliary fuel pump installation. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:08:56 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) Valve Questions O.K., here's the deal. I've never done a valve adjustment before. I am in the middle of doing one now - (read a little paranoid) There are many people on this list who have had experience with this. Last night I posted a few questions that I (actually both Brian and I) need help with. Except for Jeff (thanks man), who took the time to respond at 1:00 AM, no one else has helped a bit. Gino can talk about a tire. Fred can talk about a carb kit. Am I to believe that all Gino knows are tires? I don't believe it. Am I to think that if Fred can't sell something he doesn't give a shit? I don't believe this either. I know people have lives and are busy, but today is my only maintenance day I have, before I go back to work - and then depart for Moab. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:05:17 -0400 From: "Karl V. Huebner" Subject: (klr650) Fw: GS11 auxiliary fuel pump installation. > Hello again. > > After a 'minor' accident with the table > saw this weekend I really didn't feel up > to checking the actual capacity of the > GS tank. Kinda want to keep the stitches > out of the unleaded gasoline. > > Anyway, here is a link to the pump that > I used. > > http://www.certifiedpartscorp.com/pwc/fuelpump.html > > The model for the GS is DF52-136. I think that > any of the square ones would work. > > The total cost with a new pump, new hoses and clamps was > less that $30 USD. It took me about two hours to install > once if finally decided what to do. (that took me DAYS!!!) > > REMEMBER: Do this at your own risk! It worked for > me, this is how I did it, I don't say you should do > it, YMMV etc. etc. etc. > > You are all big boys and girls and I am NOT responsible > for you. > > Common sense notes: > > Don't drop anything in the tank. > > Don't route any hoses to the right front of the > tank as the fuel pump, fuel level sender and fuel > filter are located there. > > Get as much fuel out of the tank as possible. > > Don't smoke and work around open fuel. > > Make sure that the area you work in is WELL ventilated. > > Step 1. Setting up the external hoses. > > 1. Do a canisterectomy. People do this in different > ways. I used the method from the IBMWR page. > > 2. Mark the back of the filler neck with an awl or > something for later reference. The back of the > filler neck is the side that faces the rider. Don't > skip this step as you will need the reference later. > > Remove the filler neck. > > 3. Disconnect the vent and overflow hoses from the > filler neck. > > 3. Using a 1/4 inch tee. Tee the vent line to the overflow > line. You can blow in the overflow tube to find out > the correct line. The overflow tube runs down the right > side of the bike just behind the right footpeg. Leave > yourself plenty of extra vacuum line when you do this as > you don't want them to get kinked. Don't shorten the > existing hoses. Add new hose. You can get 1/4" vacuum > hose at any good auto store. > > 5. The vent line needs to be routed to the vacuum connector > on the bottom of the right throttle body. This line > becomes the pulse line for the fuel pump. Again you can > just blow through the line to determine which one. > > 6. You now have all the external stuff done. > > Step 2. Mounting the pump: > > 1. Cut a 3/4" x 3/16" strap of steel 4" long. > > 2. Drill a 5/16" holes about 1/2" in from each end. > > 3. Bend the strap about 1" from one end to at least 90 > degrees. > > 4. Drill a 5/16" hole, 1/2" up from the bottom of the > filler neck. Drill this hole on the BACK. You should > have marked this in step two of the above section. > > 5. Bolt the bent end of the strap to this hole using a > 1/4" bolt and lock washer. (never count on lock-tite > in a tank) The bend in the strap should face the > bottom of the tank. > > 6. Bolt one end of the fuel pump to the strap using another > 1/4" bolt and lock washer. Put a rubber vacuum nipple > over the end of the bolt so that it won't rub on the > tank. Bolt the pump in such a way that the pump inlet > is on the left side and the outlet is on the right. > > Step 3. Installing the pump hoses: > > 1. Install a 6" piece of fuel hose to the outlet. You > should have this pointing to the right. > > 2. Cut a 14" piece of fuel line for the inlet side of > the pump. This length may vary depending on the final > location of your pump and strap combo. > > 3. Run a piece of good STIFF wire down the inlet hose to > stiffen it up and shape it for your tank. > > 4. Optional: attach a small plastic 1/4" inline filter to > the bottom of the hose. > > 5. This hose goes to the left front of the tank, so you can > measure/adjust accordingly. > > Step 4. Installing the pump: > > 1. You just kinda got to work everything into the tank. > > 2. Attach the pulse line to the top of the pump. You may > want to lengthen this line a little to make sure it > doesn't get kinked after installation. Just put a 1/4" > inline connector and another 3 or 4 inches and you should > be fine. > > 3. Attach the inlet tube to the pump. > It was easier for me to insert the intake tube into the > tank and then attach it to the pump. > > 4. Stuff it all in the tank. Just take your time and work > the pump and neck combo in. One of the reasons that I > used a longer steel bracket is because it was easy to > bend. > > Just play with it and use some common sense to work it in. > > 5. Adjust your vent tube as high as possible in the tank > without touching the tank itself. I did NOT reinstall > the plastic splash guard on the vent. > > 6. Bolt the filler back together and your done. > > I will be testing this over the next month or so on my trip > to the Northern Territories. > > If someone else can refine this and make it better let me > know. I would love to share ideas. > > NOTE: Don't be tempted to tee both TB vacuum lines together > to run to the pump. The pump works on PULSES not on > vacuum. Attaching both TBs causes the pulses to cancel > each other out. > > I know you eagle eyed GS dudes and dudettes will help me > refine this...... > > Joe > > > > Joe Putnam putnamj@norand.com > "Just because I wander doesn't mean I'm lost." > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:42:34 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) IRC Tires: GP110's and GP1's > >I have developed a particular interest in the IRC GP110's and possibly >even the GP1's. If anyone has some criticism good or bad for them please >let me know. I also would like to know what kind of wear you got from >them. The 110's looked like they could handle some moderate off road >sand/mud. I don't do all that much off road, so a tire that sticks good >on turns in the road gets high marks in my book, however, I do need >traction to keep up with those pesky XRL's offroad. > I don't know about the 110's, but I have a set of GP1's on now. Let me tell you, even though these tires look more aggressive, stay out of loose sand and mud with them on this bike. The grip fairly well on the pavement, once they've got at least 500 miles on them, but the first 200 were really slick on the tarmac, so be warned. They do great now that I've run them about 3000 miles, I'd put them up against most other DP tires on the street. They do really well in gravel and hard packed dirt roads, but once the sand and silt get deeper than 2 inches, you're in for a real challenge. I gotta tell you, as a former XL and XR rider, if you want any chance of keeping up off road in the loose stuff, go for a real knobby, or abandon all hope ye who enter here. Jeff-A3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:59:07 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Valve Questions What are you worried about? I deleted your origional post, so I don't remember your questions....But from what I remember, you got your cover off, and checked the clearances, and exchanged a few shims.....Make sure you maintain the valve timing (read--don't skip teeth on the cam chain), and get the valves in the tolerance range. It doesn't really matter too much as for should you go for a certain portion of the range, and try to guestimate how the wear will go. Do this, shoot for the middle, that way if it goes either way you'll be covered. Some highly paid mechanical engineers (what I aspire to be) at Kawa designed the motor to run within that tolerance range, so as long as its between the lines, don't fret it. I've heard that Eldon recommends setting the exhaust valves loose for so many thousand miles, and there might be some truth to that, but I don't see any harm in just setting them to the factory tolerance. You're next valve adjustment is 5500 miles away, right? The motor won't fry, its not that critical, just as long as you are in the range. Make sure you keep track of what you set them at, for refference at your next adjustment. If it will make you feel better, set them in the upper 50% of the tolerance range, and recheck them at 3000 miles. You know what is involved in the job now, and the more you do it, the quicker you get at it. Did you find a micrometer yet? I got mine from Sears, and it seems pretty accurate. Remember, only a very thin bead of RTV along the left underside of the valve cover gasket, where the half plugs are, and be very carefull with the torque on your valve cover bolts, lest you strip them. I wish I could go to Moab, but I'm studying for finals. That's why I was up late last night. Jeff >O.K., here's the deal. > >I've never done a valve adjustment before. >I am in the middle of doing one now - (read a little paranoid) >There are many people on this list who have had experience with this. >Last night I posted a few questions that I (actually both Brian and I) need >help with. >Except for Jeff (thanks man), who took the time to respond at 1:00 AM, no >one else has helped a bit. >Gino can talk about a tire. >Fred can talk about a carb kit. >Am I to believe that all Gino knows are tires? I don't believe it. >Am I to think that if Fred can't sell something he doesn't give a shit? I >don't believe this either. >I know people have lives and are busy, but today is my only maintenance day >I have, before I go back to work - and then depart for Moab. > >Arne > > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #434 ****************************