From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #473 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, June 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 473 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:01:06 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Misc. posts I have missed due to Moab Moped Madness >>I'm ready to purchase a skid plate for my totally stock 3 week >old >>klr650.....but... >> >>...can someone explain, if there is any differences between the >skid plate >>from white bros/desert model and the moose brand plate..... >which one >>installs easier...protects better...and do both have drain plug >access >>without removal ?....... >> > >>I don't know anything about the WB plate, but I seem to recall >>that Arne broke his. I whole heartedly recommend the Moose >>plate. It protects the sides of the water pump, and has a great >>access to the drain bolt, and overall is bullet proof > >Bulletproof for what? b.b. guns? I have a Moose plate, and mine looks like a >taco. I am not a professional rodeo clown, just ride like one sometimes. If >the White Bro.s is thicker, I would go with that. I haven't removed the plate >yet to check for damage underneath, will post again later. Stu, sorry we didn't get to compare skids... I would have liked to listen to that "Gun" of yours too. By all reports it was a sweet sound. >>Someone with a Big Gun tell me about the awesome performance gains >>so I feel better about parting with all that cash. Thanks. >>Todd > >SOP tells me a lot more grunt out of the hole, little bit more top end. > >Finally, look at the bike on the very left, middle of bottom picture on >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/page14a.html. with the white Arai DS/r on >the left mirror. Look close you will see the Big Gun head pipe and a deluxe >tail bag on the rack. Can anyone tell me what is the best tail bag for Moab >next year? I have to say that I was happy with my Kawi tail bag. I was also impressed with its ability to garburate chicken and not spill a drop. Arne Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:42:19 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) NKLR - Faces in Moab I'm sitting here reading the hundreds of posts I missed while away. This is so cool that I thought I'd mention it quickly. After doing Moab, which (as the Beez would say) was an "Epic" experience, it is the coolest thing to be able to now read many of your posts and actually put a face to the name. To all whom I had the pleasure of meeting - Thankyou. To those that I didn't get a chance to meet - Regrets. Next year I'm bringing a bunch of stick-on "Hello, my name is:" tags that I'm going to hand out to everyone. Of the whole Moab experience (which was superb!) I have but one regret/disappointment... that being from the a**hole who spoiled my breakfast one morning with his perverted and completely inappropriate racially biased KKK joke. I don't know the individual's name with the "Welcome Back Kotter" hair-doo, and nor do I want to. All I can say is that he's lucky a friend of mine didn't string him by the ankles between a tree and his KLR and make a wish. Arne Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Villarreal Subject: (klr650) NKLR- Motoport > The best stuff I have found for function (not > style) is from MOTOPORT. Though I don't have a lot of experience in this area, the stuff I do have (riding pants and jacket, my initial set) is from Motoport. It seems to be fitting the bill nicely. Although be ready to deal with the "backorder blues" when dealing with them. It took me 3 or 4 months to get my order completely filled. I've had the stuff for two years and it's still holding up quite well (the jacket has faded a little, no big deal for me). For what it's worth... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR "The Happy Hooligan" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 21:08:29 -0500 From: Tom Meagher Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR..Motorcycle Shipping George, Have you seen these guys? www.shippingmotorcycle.com Tom At 11:30 AM 6/3/99 , gvarughe wrote: >Now if I can find an experienced international shipping co. to airfreight >the bike, things would be perfect. > >george Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 12:56:36 -0400 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage setup (was: "seldomly discussed...") At 09:08 AM 6/9/1999 EDT, BifferRyan@aol.com wrote: >In regards to exceeding the package rack's measly weight limit, I am >wondering if I'm setting myself up for an untimely (is there any other?) >failure with my luggage system. > >To install the three piece luggage--pannier and tail bags--on my Tengai >model, I've made a rack 21" wide (1/8" aluminum "no-skid" stock--probably to >be replaced by 1/4" thick) across the stock rack and bolted it to the four >existing holes, machined aluminum plate to extend the signals back for >visibility, and made side protectors to which I attached the saddle bags in a >six-point attachment (eight-point with full load). It's all together now and >seems strong (a tiny bit of flex in the new plate during pannier loads to be >resolved with thicker stock), but then again, it's all on top of that stock >rack underneath and I haven't had the full, tour-weight contents in the >luggage yet (the new rack and side protectors weigh 10 lbs). > >I've heard of similar, suggestive setups (such as "Ztieb's" beneficial >advice) and was wondering now if the stress will be too much. Nevertheless, >the matching Igloo setup was cheap ($65 in three bags), convenient, easily >removable and replaceable, allows 36 liter capacity (compared to the 40 liter >ortliebs, but close enough) in the bags and 25 liter capacity in the tail >bag, has the sturdy plastic liner (removable type), and has proven to be >waterproof so far. > >Any thoughts on this wide (equally as wide as a Tiger or R1100gs with hard >bags) and potentially heavy load would be appreciated. > In my case I have a loop of steel angle running off the back of the package rack, which provides mechanical leverage that increases the forced on the subframe. A failure such as mine would be pretty unlikely with panniers and such hanging off the sides. My pannier arrangement, BTW, is positioned further foreward and hangs over the seat. Incidently, I also drilled the bolt holes for the rear of the package rack all the way through the subframe and eliminated the little spot-welded nuts that the screws used to thread into. I understand that this is a common mod for KLRs that live hard lives. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 23:02:20 -0400 From: Dave & Sherry Kessler Subject: (klr650) [Fwd: [Wings] NWR, just a history lesson........] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------F11E5F385521096255D1DE4F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------F11E5F385521096255D1DE4F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from baleen.armchair.mb.ca (modem124120.westman.wave.ca [207.161.124.120]) by ims-1.smartworld.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA22376 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16971 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 01:13:14 -0000 Received: from onramp.armchair.mb.ca (alias@198.163.115.1) by baleen.armchair.mb.ca with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 01:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3923 invoked by alias); 10 Jun 1999 01:13:09 -0000 Delivered-To: wings-outgoing@armchair.mb.ca Received: (qmail 3910 invoked by uid 505); 10 Jun 1999 01:13:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 3889 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 01:12:47 -0000 Received: from smtp2.gte.net (207.115.153.31) by onramp.armchair.mb.ca with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 01:12:47 -0000 Received: from larrys (1Cust10.tnt6.tacoma.wa.da.uu.net [63.10.230.10]) by smtp2.gte.net with SMTP for ; id UAA01784 Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:12:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003301beb2de$4ab348e0$0ae60a3f@larrys> From: "Larry Price" <1price@gte.net> To: "'Gold Wing Discussion Group'" Subject: [Wings] NWR, just a history lesson........ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:12:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-wings@onramp.armchair.mb.ca Precedence: bulk X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Just a little history lesson... History of Giving the Finger: __ /'_/) ,/_ / / / / / /'_'/' '/'__'7, /'/ / / /" /_\ ('( ' ' _~/' ') \ ' / '\' \ _.7' \ ( \ \ Giving the Finger Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous weapon was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as "plucking the yew" (or "pluck yew"). Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, "See, we can still pluck yew! PLUCK YEW!" Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodental fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute are mistakenly thought to have something to do with an intimate encounter. It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird". And yew thought yew knew everything! Larry Price N7BNJ GL1100 Interstate, Black Orca "1AUWNG" GWRRA 122744 Guardian Whale WA/OR/ID & BC - --------------F11E5F385521096255D1DE4F-- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: gvarughe Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR..Motorcycle Shipping Thanks to all who responded. D-day is 21 June. I'll keep the list posted about the costs and procedures of intl shipping and also throw in some pics of a KLR in the Himalayas! george On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Tom Meagher wrote: > George, > Have you seen these guys? > > www.shippingmotorcycle.com > > Tom > > At 11:30 AM 6/3/99 , gvarughe wrote: > >Now if I can find an experienced international shipping co. to airfreight > >the bike, things would be perfect. > > > >george > ==================================================================== George Varughese Office: (812)855-7739 direct (812)855-0441 Workshop in Political Theory Fax: (812)855-3150 and Policy Analysis Indiana University 513 North Park Bloomington, IN 47408 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:43:03 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage setup (was: "seldomly discussed...") > Incidently, I also drilled the bolt holes for the rear of the package rack >all the way through the subframe and eliminated the little spot-welded nuts >that the screws used to thread into. I understand that this is a common mod >for KLRs that live hard lives. Obi Wan did mine in Moab...it involves drilling entirely through the crossbar that lies under the fender. The stock arrangment has the bolt thread through the top of the bar but not all the way through it. Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:46:45 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Fw: PICTURES ARE ON-LINE Bob Carreras has his pictures of the Moab Rally on-line...see if you can spot Ranger Alyssa.... Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 9:39 PM Subject: PICTURES ARE ON-LINE >Fred....got all the 1999 Dual Sport Rally pictures on-line at my home page >at >http://users.ticnet.com/carreras >or skip directly to the 1999 pictures at >http://users.ticnet.com/carreras/page108.html > >Please pass on to the KLR listers, any who attended the 1999 Moab rally and >anyone else interested.....lots of pics to review. Was a great trip and >know everyone who attended enjoyed themselves....including the 37 Riders who >followed me to the Catacombs and those who rode with me other days like >twice around the LaSal Mountains....what a trip! Got some good shots of the >riders leaving the parking lot for the White Rim as well as a variety of >other rides & views. Worth Checking Out! > >thanks, BoB > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:58:00 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Bieffe Helmet replacement parts [NKLR] and Arai too >> How about the helmet screws for the Arai DS helmet? These are >> not only plastic, but hollow as well. I've broken three so far, >> and can't find replacements. > >Yeah, I have an Arai DS/r as well. I ordered some of those screws through >CycleGear (1-800 cyclegear or something; they have a retail store near me). >Part no. 2511 AdSis screw set (the peak screw set is 2533). I tried to find >something comparable in a hardware store and couldn't even match the >threads. > > Thanks for the info. I'm surprised you couldn't match the threads though. I think that they are a standard 6mm diameter, 1mm pitch, but matching the head of the screws is impossible in that size I think. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:17:52 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Electrical Accessories >I was getting 12.5V - sufficient to charge the battery and with a single 55W >low beam and all the rest of the accessories on I was getting 12.9V. > But volts are the wrong thing to be testing when measuring the charging system output. The voltage is just the potential, not the current flow. You need to measure the amps. Remember the basic Ohm's law, Voltage = Amps X Resistance. Think of it like water that flows through a pipe. The resistance is friction that impedes the flow, say a rusty pipe. The Amps is the actual rate of water flowing, the quantity. The voltage is the water pressure. You could have a very high pressure, but a really small pipe that's really rusty. The pressure (voltage) is high, true, but only a very small quantity of water will be able to flow out in a specific time period, therefore low amps and high resistance. All of your accessories draw amps, as well as the lights and ignition. If the amps available aren't enough from the charging system, then the battery will be drained. Good to know that you can run all of those items, but I wonder if your battery was draining at the time, and you recharged it later during your ride. Ride for a long enough period of time like that, and your lights will go dim, and possibly the CDI won't get enough juice to fire. I once had a baja bug with tons of lights and accessories, as well as a 500 watt stereo. Long story short, running down the highway for long time, and the car dies, like a no juice in the battery at all. Wasn't the charging systems fault, just overloaded it. I seem to recall Skip had some good instrumentation to monitor his charging system and battery. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #473 ****************************