From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #484 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Sunday, June 13 1999 Volume 02 : Number 484 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:21:51 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Help Help! Arne Larsen wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher J Beasley > To: KLR List > Date: June 12, 1999 12:37 PM > Subject: (klr650) Help Help! > > >Hey folks, > >I am getting my shock rebuilt by a local dude, and getting it out was no > >problem. > > I'm wanting to do the same thing I think. Are you having the unit beefed up > at the same time? ie. external resevoir and heavier spring? Tim Bernard > mentioned a 'pink' spring that Progressive makes that apparently fits the > stock shock. > > Let me know, I'm more than curious - and good luck with the other stuff. Hey Arne. Yep, I'm getting a Fox external resevoir with compression damping knob. It will have a 1' hose too so I can mount it wherever I want. I will be getting a heavier spring, either an Eibach or the Progressive "pink" spring. I still don't have the bolts out of the swingarm or link. I've gone through most of a brass hammer without any progress. Both bolts now turn pretty freely but cant be budged in an axial direction. There's no place to hook in the claws of the gear puller that I have so pounding seems like the only method. I think I'll get my wife to try turning the wrench tomorrow while I pound it. Any suggestions at this point will be GREATLy appreciated. Reno is in 13 days! b Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:25:03 -0400 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (klr650) Help Help! You don't indicate the age of your bike or condition, but on my A2 (1988) KLR I had to pound both of the long bolts/shafts out. I used a long carriage bolt as a drift. Never-the-less the threads on one of the shafts (on the bottom) was messed up. I had to use a die and recut the threads to a smaller size. The shafts were severely corroded and I had to work on them quite a lot to remove the corrosion and repolish the shafts. I also used a wire brush (similar to those used in cleaning/polishing 3/4-inch copper pipes) to remove the oxide from the aluminum and steel surfaces into which the shafts fit. I used copious amounts of grease upon reassembly and the shafts easily slid into place. Don't forget to clean and relubricate the needle bearings that are also part of the rear suspension linkage. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio - -----Original Message----- From: Christopher J Beasley To: KLR List Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 3:30 PM Subject: (klr650) Help Help! >Hey folks, >I am getting my shock rebuilt by a local dude, and getting it out was no >problem. While he has it, I'm gonna clean and regrease all the bearings on the >rear suspension. The problem is that I can't get either of the long bolts out >of the rear end. One is the bolt that holds the "link" The other is the long >bolt that goes through the swingarm and the rear engine mount. I soaked them >overnight in penetrating oil. Now the bottom one turns freely but I still can't >get it out. I've tried driving it out with a brass hammer and no luck. The top >one doesn't even want to turn unless I put a two foot cheater bar on there. >Anyone else get these things out? Is there a trick or are they just corroded >and stuff? Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:24:02 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #482 Tom Leonard wrote: > Chris, > > I had the same problem with the bottom long bolt this winter on my 94. There are holes on > either side of the frame that allow water to collect and grow so much crap on the bolt that it > won't slide out through the bushings. It took two weeks, but every night I would squirt a lot > of wd-40 in the holes while turning and tapping on the bolt. At the end of the second week I > was so frustrated that I took a 2 lb hammer and (with the nut on loosely at first) I beat the > damn thing out. I had to file the end of the bolt so the nut would start, but I was able to > reuse everything. It could have been worse, I guess. I had no problem with the swing arm bolt. > > good luck, Tom Thanks Tom. Mine's an 88 so has 6 more years of corrosion to get through. At least now I know there's no trick or a circlip or something that doesn't show up in the drawings... b Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:10:53 -0500 From: doug atwood <"datwood@leaco.net"@www.leaconet.com> Subject: (klr650) vacation unsubscribe klr650 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:29:40 -0600 From: Jeff Hayden Subject: Re: (klr650) Questions, Questions, Questions... Arne, Hope to hear about your dyno experiences soon. I'll be watching and waiting. 73's - -- Jeff, NM, A13 http://www.biker.net/klark/ - My KLR Page Arne Larsen wrote: - -----Original Message----- > From: Vik Banerjee > To: Kurt Simpson ; Jeff Hayden ; > klr650@lists.xmission.com > Cc: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com > Date: June 11, 1999 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: (klr650) Questions, Questions, Questions... > > > > >>>A SuperTrapp I.D.S does what to the Power Curve of a stock KLR650 >A9? > >>>I feel the need more mid range. > >> > >> > >>I think Vik did a dyno on this...Vik? > > > >No I did a dyno with the IDS on and stock filter and jetting - then I did a > >dyno after the dynojet kit and K&N were installed. I would have liked to > do > >a totally stock dyno run, but it didn't work out for logistic reasons. > > > >The improved sound of an IDS is worth the price along and my gut reaction > is > >that it and the jetting do improve low and mid-range over stock, but I > can't > >really back this up with any objective data. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Vik > > I will let you all know soon. I found a high performance Harley shop in > town with a dyno. If I go in with my leather jacket and a pair of Daytons > on instead of my Kilimanjaro and Kalaharis, they may let me in the shop. I > want them to dyno my bike now in its stock form and then again, after I've > installed the jet kit, the K&N filter, and the Big Gun exhaust. > > I don't anticipate any huge 'peak' power gains, but what I do expect (other > than the BARK of the exhaust - as opposed to the CHIRP) is a power curve > that comes on bigger earlier, and holds up through the RPM range, resulting > in a more usable power curve. > > Arne Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:33:47 -0500 From: Scott Wass Subject: (klr650) Temp Gauge I was out riding tonite 75 degrees...and I was wondering what everyone else reads on the temp gauge while riding in 2nd-3rd gear my gauge was standing straight up and the fan would cycle on-off about every minute or two I rode like this for 5-6miles and the temp seemed to hold about there except when I would stop and then it would climb a bit more this seems to a bit on the warm side to me what happens to you guys out west when it's 90 degrees does the gauge stay about in the middle I checked the coolant and oil level and evrything was fine the bike is a 1999 and I don't remember what the the 95 I had ran for temp........just paranoid I guess. Not to irk anyone but a couple of my friends have XR's & XRL's and I've helped them work on them and from what I see they are built waaaay better than the KLR..... grease zirks on the shock linkage, remote res. rear shock, brakes that actually work plus they ride wheelies from hell. Don't get me wrong I like my KLR this is the second one I've had but I think the Hondas are built alot better plus everyone says the XRL's suck on the road but I ran the KLR & XRL through the gear calc and the XRL turns fewer RPM at 60 MPH than the KLR and it has a ton more bottom end than the KLR thanks Scott Wass Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:49:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Mercer Subject: Re: (klr650) Honda Mirrors At 03:17 PM 6/12/99 -0700, you wrote: >Do you have any aftermarket handguards installed, like the the >Acerbis, or Mair, which mount to the outside of the handlebars? >Juan V said that with these he noticed that his mirrors vibrated >again with the XR650L mirrors. > >Jeff > > I have the Acerbis Rally brush guards mounted on stock handlebars. Eric Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 23:04:58 -0500 From: "K.D. Bailey" Subject: (klr650) fork spings, options? Know that I've ridden my KLR-650 for a few months and become used to it, I'm getting tired of the nose diving. Seems that the fork springs are the biggest design problem it has. I ride 90/10 on the street and often with a passenger. Does anyone besides Progressive make stiffer fork springs? I plan to go with a bigger front rotor, which one is best? Also plan on stainless steel brake lines and mostly street tires. I'd welcome any suggestions on building my bike into an urban assault/ all terrain/ commuter beast. Thanks! K. D. Bailey Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 00:12:31 EDT From: Carmic7@aol.com Subject: (klr650) grease fittings ok what's loubing up the KlR really like? where should I put grease fittings to make life easier and when should I lube stuff? Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:39:31 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Help Help! > I still don't have the bolts out of the swingarm or link. I've gone through >most of a brass hammer without any progress. Both bolts now turn pretty freely >but cant be budged in an axial direction. There's no place to hook in the claws >of the gear puller that I have so pounding seems like the only method. I think >I'll get my wife to try turning the wrench tomorrow while I pound it. > >Any suggestions at this point will be GREATLy appreciated. Reno is in 13 days! >b > Don't know if you'd be able to set it up but here's a thought... Do you have a hydraulic jack? What if you were able to put the bike in a concrete hallway (bear with me here) in such a way that it's against one wall and can't be moved over... then what if you were to place the jack against the other wall sideways in kind of a hydraulic press idea. A couple of cement blocks against the wall for the tires to press up against might be solid. You might need a couple pairs of hands to line things up, but once you're there you might be able to press it out. If the diameter of the jack is too thick you could use a steel rod as a drift. Arne Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:42:39 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) Help, Help Another product I've used in the past to free up rusted nuts and bolts is a spray called "Move it" or Moovsit" or something to that effect. The stuff is so good that they claim that you can spray it on and it will work in minutes. Arne Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:54:51 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) fork spings, options? - -----Original Message----- From: K.D. Bailey To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: June 12, 1999 9:12 PM Subject: (klr650) fork spings, options? >Know that I've ridden my KLR-650 for a few months and become used >to it, I'm getting tired of the nose diving. Seems that the fork >springs are the biggest design problem it has. I ride 90/10 on >the street and often with a passenger. Does anyone besides >Progressive make stiffer fork springs? >I plan to go with a bigger front rotor, which one is best? Also >plan on stainless steel brake lines and mostly street tires. I'd >welcome any suggestions on building my bike into an urban >assault/ all terrain/ commuter beast. >Thanks! >K. D. Bailey Stay with the progressives. Many here (myself included) are using them with great joy and success. As for the larger rotor go with the Map. Last time I checked, Fred Hink had one sitting on the end of the table in his shop just waiting to be sent out. 'Braking' also makes an oversized rotor, but apparently it takes a year to get. If you're going to spend most of your time on the street, it's pretty hard to beat the Avon gripster. Having said that though, I've seen Vik's bike hold some pretty steep corners with a set of Continental DOT knobbies. So the only advantages you may find beneficial with a street tire is that it lasts longer and runs a little smoother. I myself will take the rough edges on the road for the ability to chew up the dirt. Arne Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:21:41 -0700 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Y._Gonz=E1lez?=" Subject: Re: (klr650) fork spings, options? > >Know that I've ridden my KLR-650 for a few months and become used > >to it, I'm getting tired of the nose diving. Seems that the fork > >springs are the biggest design problem it has. I ride 90/10 on > >the street and often with a passenger. Does anyone besides > >Progressive make stiffer fork springs? > >I plan to go with a bigger front rotor, which one is best? Also > >plan on stainless steel brake lines and mostly street tires. I'd > >welcome any suggestions on building my bike into an urban > >assault/ all terrain/ commuter beast. > >Thanks! > >K. D. Bailey > Another option to consider could be Race tech suspension (www.race-tech.com). These guys determine the correct rate springs for your style of riding and weight. I don't know of anyone on this list that is using them, but I've heard of other people preferring a straight rate spring rather than progressive springs. Carlos Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 08:50:05 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) My bike has a name...NKLR > >Arne Larsen wrote: > >> O.K., so I'm wierd. >> >> Arne > >I'll second that !! ; b you guys sound like an old married couple...and the honeymoon was only two weeks! (g) And, on top of it ditching poor Vik in Salt Lake City... Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #484 ****************************