From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #505 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, June 16 1999 Volume 02 : Number 505 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:07:32 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR vibration >find a way to solve this problem before I head out. Some of you have >mentioned stuffing the bars with caulking. I might give that a try. Any >special type/brand? Since my new grips are glued on, can I cut a hole in >the end of the left grips to inject some caulking? Is the handlebar hollow >all the way through? I would want to make sure I get the entire thing >filled. From a previous post of mine in the archives and a conversation with Mike Walburn: With respect to the posts about eliminating bar vibration Mike does (as Jim Barthell reported) favor filling the bar with 3M Polyurethane Window Sealant. It applies with a caulking gun, have a partner check for the sealant as it comes out the opposing end. When it starts to flow, put in the plug you made that represents the length of anything you put inside the end (rally guards, bar end weights, throttlemeister etc.), plug and fill till it comes out the end you are operating from and then plug that end until it sets up. Contrary to one of our listers concerns, Mike says it is impossible for rust to be an issue if you apply the sealant to a dry bar. Said he has been using this method for 20 yrs with great success. I would add that you may wish to pull the light/clutch switch assembly because the stuff will ooze in there and create a mess...don't ask me how I know... Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:06:15 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: (klr650) NKLR the dirtiest word of all That's right, you guessed it, webrings! For new people who have joined, those who've thought about it, and those who have no idea what I'm talking about, there are two webrings available for your website to join. One is for KLR650's and KLR250's exclusively - join page is at http://www.sat.net/~bberlin/klr650/index.htm head there for all the details. the webring master is pretty helpful. The other is Dual Sport News Motorcycle Webring - join page is at http://outside.weddingchannel.com/~sarah/klr650/join.html head there for all the details. the webring master is pretty helpful. Basically, a webring is a good opportunity to hook your website to others with like interests. The benefits are at least twofold - 1) you get more traffic across your site & 2) when you're away from your bookmarks, you can enter your own website address (presumably you can remember that one) and then use the webring to find other sites that you wish to browse - dsn, ericjazz, kurt's site, fred's site etc. join now! or later! or never! whichever you prefer. Sarah - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:40:41 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) Moto Carrier Hi Eric, The "Trail 90" is a wet-sump motor which means the gears are sitting in a bath of oil - even better wiith the front end raised. My XR400 is dry-sump which means the gears are not in a bath of oil - they only get oil when the engine is running. With that thought.... I'd never tow a dry-sump motored bike except in emergency. Thanks for making me think about it. Any idea what bike shed the parts that Fred showed you? The KLR being a wet sump, it might not be a problem.??? Tom ==================== >> My cousin dragged a "Honda Trail 90" 9,000 miles (around the USA) on the >>rear >> wheel (as above) without removing the chain. (I wouldn't do that with my >> 400!). Moral of the story is that if he can go 9,000 maybe there's no >> worries on a short jaunt? >> >>>>>>>>>> yeah, that may be...I was being careful. Fred showed me a >transmission part that had welded itself to another part even though the guy >had the bike in neutral. It seems the moving part in the transmission needs >engine oil to keep it from attaching itself to another part that it normally >rubs against +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:40:49 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Weight "Spec" is often misunderstood to mean "specification". It actually means "special". You need a special scale to get "spec weight. This special scale (which all the manufacturers use) requires that you attach a large helium balloon to the motorcycle. Tom ======================== The specs weigh the KLR in at 338lbs dry. Figure in all the fluids and probably pushing 380lbs or so. +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:40:39 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: RE: (klr650) Moto Carrier Sorry, that was 9,000 miles... Tom ============= >My cousin dragged a "Honda Trail 90" 9,000 (around the USA) on the rear >wheel (as above) without removing the chain. (I wouldn't do that with my >400!). Moral of the story is that if he can go 9,000 maybe there's no >worries on a short jaunt? +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:41:22 +1000 From: "Hauck, Michael MG" Subject: (klr650) Seat Height Trent, Since you work for Raytheon, what part of town do you live in? I'm in the Northwest (Oro Valley) and lots of my neighbours are Raytheon. I'm always looking for extra riding partners (best to ride in pairs in the desert in case you break down) so I can drop by and get you hooked on the virtues of the famous "Moose" KLR650 and it's versatility. You can sling a leg over and get a feel for the machine. PS: Pick up a Cycle Trader at the local supermarket. There's usually a used KLR for sale. I picked my '97 up $3400 all-in with 2200 miles. EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Limited immediately via mailto:postmaster@bhp.com.au. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:32:23 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) re: filters: 1-800-Ask-Mobile NKLR Eric Rhoads wrote: [Mobile oil filter] [spark plugs] I wouldn't use Champion plugs unless they were the only one available in a certain size. I like NGK platinums in my bikes, and lucky for for me both bikes take exactly the same size and heat range, DP8EV-9. > the point: To make one of the very best oil filters you can buy. Specs are > stated as 98% removal @ 10-20 microns which is really pretty good. Sounds good but I take it there's no mention of flow resistance (or pressure drop) across the filter. > The box > also claims they have one of the highest single-pass ratings available. I > didn't see any longevity specs. The can is supposed to be stronger than > average and comes with a prelubed gasket. Prelubed gasket? Golly. Stronger can? I've never heard of one blowing out yet. > I haven't bought any Champion stuff since the cost-me-money-pissed-me-off > miserable failure of one of their products 25 years ago. My experience too. I used to buy 7 plugs for a 6 cylinder car because at least one off them would be duff. Maybe they've improved their act. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:44:18 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Fw: Looking for pics of KLR 600 Brian Hillman wrote: [...] > B1 bomber looks like. Now if I can just find the replacement stickers and > number backgrounds. Mine were so scratched up I just removed it all. :-) Number backgrounds are easy. Get some newspaper and spend some time cutting out a pattern to suit each sidecover and headlight cowl. Then use it to mark out some "Contact" brand or suchlike sticky backed vinyl sheet, the kind of stuff you cover shelves with. There's all kinds of colours available. I used a matching red to cover up the scratches from the saddlebags. Tank stickers are something else. It's hard to keep that sort of stuff attached to a plastic fuel tank, if i had one, "I-Char-Bits" never made a big 600 tank in red, just A-series white or green (I think). Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:51:40 +1000 From: "Hauck, Michael MG" Subject: (klr650) klr650s down under I wonder why the Australian version shows a 168 kg dry weight = 370 lbs. vs. our 340 lb. US KLR's? Lime green isn't my thing, but from what I've seen Aussie's like some weird colour schemes (my Aussie boss where's lime green pants on casual day/Fridays). http://www.kawasaki.com.au/html/klr650.html EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Limited immediately via mailto:postmaster@bhp.com.au. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:02:38 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) klr650s down under >>I wonder why the Australian version shows a 168 kg dry weight = 370 lbs. vs. our 340 lb. US KLR's?<< I think the only way a US KLR650A model could weigh 340lbs is with helium in the tank, tires, frame, handlebars and no battery, oil, and coolant. My 95 tips the scale at 450+ lbs. That includes 22lbs worth of Touratech boxes and racks, a battery, full fuel tank, a heavy Corbin seat and tank panniers. It should be noted that the Aussie KLR is a C series, not to be confused with the KLX C series which graced our shores for a couple of years. Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:12:58 -0400 From: Mark McCoy Subject: Re: (klr650) Seat Height Traderonline.com is also very cool. You can search for specific bikes and select from the whole country of go down to your own area code. Mark McCoy Hauck, Michael MG wrote: > Trent, > > Since you work for Raytheon, what part of town do you live in? I'm in the Northwest (Oro Valley) and lots of my neighbours are Raytheon. > > I'm always looking for extra riding partners (best to ride in pairs in the desert in case you break down) so I can drop by and get you hooked on the virtues of the famous "Moose" KLR650 and it's versatility. > > You can sling a leg over and get a feel for the machine. > > PS: Pick up a Cycle Trader at the local supermarket. There's usually a used KLR for sale. I picked my '97 up $3400 all-in with 2200 miles. > > EOM > > NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Limited immediately via mailto:postmaster@bhp.com.au. > > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 03:31:20 +1000 From: "Hauck, Michael MG" Subject: (klr650) antifreeze/coolant alternatives--NKLR I use Sierra brand and get it at Checker Auto Parts ~$6/gallon. I put it in my '81 VW Rabbit & '88 Scorpio (alu rad's) because the Rabbit doesn't have an overflow container and the Scorpio leaks occasionally (still searching for new hoses...). Kanhulk 2 dogs/2 kids... EOM NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Limited immediately via mailto:postmaster@bhp.com.au. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:39:29 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Moto Carrier - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Myers To: Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:40 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Moto Carrier > Hi Eric, > > The "Trail 90" is a wet-sump motor which means the gears are sitting in a > bath of oil - even better wiith the front end raised. My XR400 is dry-sump > which means the gears are not in a bath of oil - they only get oil when the > engine is running. With that thought.... I'd never tow a dry-sump motored > bike except in emergency. Thanks for making me think about it. > > Any idea what bike shed the parts that Fred showed you? The KLR being a > wet sump, it might not be a problem.??? > > Tom Tom, It was the input shaft and first gear from a customers TT350. Fred Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:44:18 PDT From: Brian Hillman Subject: Re: (klr650) Seat Height I work at Hughes Space and Communications, which is one of the last remaining parts of Hughes that Raytheon didn't buy out. I am in El Segundo CA. and do alot of work with Raytheon still, Trent, you could be my neighbor.... :-) Brian Hillman 85 KLR 600 >From: "Hauck, Michael MG" >Reply-To: "Hauck, Michael MG" >To: "'tddotson@notes.west.raytheon.com'" >CC: 'KLR650MailList' >Subject: (klr650) Seat Height >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:41:22 +1000 > >Trent, > >Since you work for Raytheon, what part of town do you live in? I'm in the >Northwest (Oro Valley) and lots of my neighbours are Raytheon. > >I'm always looking for extra riding partners (best to ride in pairs in the >desert in case you break down) so I can drop by and get you hooked on the >virtues of the famous "Moose" KLR650 and it's versatility. > >You can sling a leg over and get a feel for the machine. > >PS: Pick up a Cycle Trader at the local supermarket. There's usually a used >KLR for sale. I picked my '97 up $3400 all-in with 2200 miles. > >EOM > >NOTICE - This message contains information intended only for the use of the >addressee named above. It may also be confidential and/or privileged. If >you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified >that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. >If you have received this message in error please notify The Broken Hill >Proprietary Company Limited immediately via mailto:postmaster@bhp.com.au. > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #505 ****************************