From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #622 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, July 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 622 (klr650) Long-winded Supertrapp Reply. (klr650) Re: Any Scottoiler Reports? / BL5K (klr650) Re: Any Scottoiler Reports? / BL5K Re: (klr650) tires coming apart Re: (klr650) tires coming apart Re: (klr650) Alex Jomarron Trip Report Re: (klr650) Any Scottoiler Reports? Re: (klr650) KLR Insurance (klr650) A Great Experience! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:20:09 GMT From: "Di or Eddie C" Subject: (klr650) Long-winded Supertrapp Reply. Greetings: Supertrapps are adjustable. I'll try to tell you everything I know in a couple paragraphs: I would have bought the Supertrapp IDS, except it was on back-order and would have taken an extra 4 weeks. This was last year; I had just gotten the bike. 4 weeks was unacceptable. I bought the standard Trapp. I have been happy with it (remember the price) except... The rear aluminum spacer (cylindrical) needed to be cut to allow the pipe to fit properly. A hacksaw and a vice/clamp are all that's necessary. I bought a "deflector shield" to redirect the exhaust gas from the fender. The pipe comes stock with 12 disks. Anything over 6 or eight disks and this deflector is pointless. I ran all 12 disks, until I bought another 6, and now I run 18. The rear fender has a section melted out of it. I've heard others mention that they cut it away on purpose to avoid this. The fender is often sooty too. I think I ran 6 disks for a moment. Not throaty enough. It may interest you that I saw a stock KTM and it only had 4 or 6 disks in its stock Supertrapp. The packing has dissipated. The pipe now has a bunch of debris rattling around inside it (but I wouldn't know this unless I had the pipe off). The end cap that keeps the packing in (goes in front of the disks at the back of the can) supposedly used to be held in with 3 rivuts. Mine is held in with 3, 1/4-20 machine screws. All three fell out once and the back of the pipe almost came off on a long ride. I suggest putting them in with loctite if you buy one. Also, the stock rear mounting bolt (pipe to frame) was, like, grade 3. I have since had to replace it with a new one and a nylock nut. I will replace with metric when I have a chance. Overall I'm happy with the pipe considering the price. If I was to buy a new pipe, I would either buy the IDS, or wait and buy the BG (for considerably more $). I don't find the noise too loud in the helment, and I run this bike at highway speeds all the time. However, I'm having more difficulty hearing the wife lately. I suggest that you get one of these babies if you're married! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:50:39 EDT From: PMDean650@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: Any Scottoiler Reports? / BL5K I'm back from the Butt Lite but am very busy with work before I leave for another 2 week vacation. Short story; 47 riders started the Butt Lite, 36 finished, I was 31st place. I finished the first leg in 14th place but due to increased pain in my shoulder I did not chase bonus points on leg two. In leg three I was feeling better and chased bonus points again until I made a real stupid mistake; lost my wallet with ALL of my money and credit cards. I limped into the Ohio checkpoint with big bonuses out of reach because I could not get receipts. On the last leg depression and pain was setting in again so I just headed for the barn and got minimum bonus points (the rally masters lent me enough money to finish). Results; Scottoiler worked but started flowing continuously, not shutting off. I have not debugged the problem yet. Night cutter worked good for the first day and then stopped working. I don't know yet if it was my wiring, the fuse, or the bulb that failed. Russell seat is absolutely wonderful for long distance rides. Cross winds on three of the four legs beat me to a pulp. The high center of gravity and light weight make for a lot of movement and aggravated an old case of tendinitis in my shoulder. Heat from the radiator burned my leg after two days. Vibration from the footpegs made my knees ache after three days. I will never ever EVER make a multi-day run like this again on a KLR. I'll keep the KLR for 24 hour rallies and everything else. For Multi-day rallies I think I'll get an ST1100. More when I get back from vacation.... Pete Dean Minnetonka MN To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:23:56 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: (klr650) Re: Any Scottoiler Reports? / BL5K Peter, I wondered how you survived the Butt Lite - I looked at the Team Strange site a few days ago and saw your finish, but it didn't tell the whole story. It will be interesting to find out what happened to the Scottoiler. Do you have the large touring tank version? Regarding the knees hurting after a long ride - I had the same problem with my right knee after 4-5 hours of riding, and could usually get rid of the pain by consciously turning my foot in a slightly inward direction and holding it for a while. IMS pegs didn't help dampen the vibration. Also, I didn't do the daily miles that you did - my longest day was 820 miles during the return run from Alaska. Cross winds on a KLR are a pain, but leaning the bike only was the least tiring way to stabilize the bike for long periods. The rest of my upper body was more or less vertical - felt almost like flat track posture. Stuart Juno Beach, Florida To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:29:36 -0400 From: "Karl V. Huebner" Subject: Re: (klr650) tires coming apart Now I have a 95 KLR 650 with 9K on the front tire. It isn't cracking but the cupping is extremely bad. What caused this? Karl V. Huebner Columbus, Ohio 95 R 11 GS 89 R 100 GS 95 KLR 650 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Hink To: Roscoe ; KLR Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 8:44 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) tires coming apart > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roscoe > To: KLR > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 7:53 PM > Subject: (klr650) tires coming apart > > > > Out for a long ride today and went to check my tires and they have > developed > > cracks around the base of the knobbies, front and rear. They are the stock > > Dunlops on my 98 KLR with 2100 miles on em. What gives here??? Has anybody > > else had this happen?? > > Thanks > > Roscoe > > > Tires that have been run with low air pressure or have been driven hard will > develop cracks over time. Also the weather and sun can cause cracks. Have > you had your tire pressure guage checked with another guage to see how > accurate it might be? Most air pressure guages are ususally not very > accurate. You get what you pay for so buy a good pressure guage and it > should be more accurate than a cheap model. I check my tires pressure > before every ride. A motorcycle tire will normally loose a slight amount of > air pressure by just setting there and are especially effected by air > temperature. If you have your tires up to the recommended pressure and the > next day it is 5 or 10 degress cooler, your tire pressure will be much less > too. You should always check your tire pressure before you ride your bike. > (or at least riding your bike less than a block or so) > > Cracks in the tread are not as dangerous as cracks in the side wall. Keep > an eye on any cracks to see if they get worse. If a tire is new with > cracks, you can usually wear them out before the crack will give you > trouble, but if a tire is old, then a crack can develop into a "blowout" > before you know it.. > > If you were going to take a long trip with cracked tires, I would replace > them before they let you down out in the middle of nowhere. > > Fred > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. > In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe > klr650-digest). To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:51:36 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) tires coming apart - ----- Original Message ----- From: Karl V. Huebner To: KLR 650 mailing list ; Fred Hink Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:29 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) tires coming apart > Now I have a 95 KLR 650 with 9K on the front tire. It isn't cracking but > the cupping is extremely bad. > > What caused this? I would guess that you do a lot of highway miles. Running the same speed mile after mile could do this, but I think your tire is just telling you that it is worn out. Make sure you have enough air pressure and your wheel is in balance. Some tires will just cup more than others. Which tire are you running? Fred To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:38:44 -0400 From: Mark McCoy Subject: Re: (klr650) Alex Jomarron Trip Report Kurt Simpson wrote: > We rode the Top of the World Highway to Chicken Alaska. What an awesome > road. Here we came upon a Goldwing rider who deposited his bike and > trailer into a ditch. Miraculously, he was okay. The bike was a bit > lighter having donated some of its fairing parts in the ditch. Aaaaah the > joys of riding in gravel! Gotta respect a guy who will step (well, ride) out of his comfort zone!! Mark McCoy To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:41:32 -0400 From: Mark McCoy Subject: Re: (klr650) Any Scottoiler Reports? I run mine (on the VFR on a much lower setting that recommended. They say the small receiver is good for only 1000 miles but I choke it down to nearly the lowest setting and it lasts plenty long. I figure that compared to my usual neglect it is much better even with a slow drip. I have also heard of others doing this. The big one looks kind of vulnerable out on the fender. Mark McCoy Stuart Heaslet wrote: > I'm still on the fence about buying a Scottoiler, possibly with the larger > touring oil canister. I thought maybe Peter Dean was running one for the > Butt Lite, and Alex Jamarron on his run to Alaska, so I'd be interested in > any opinions about how it has actually worked, especially riding for > extended periods on dirt roads. > > Stuart > KLR - 'Kills Little Rabbits' > Juno Beach, Florida > > To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. > In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe > klr650-digest). To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:47:50 -0400 From: Mark McCoy Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Insurance You guys may want to also check what you state minimums are because you may be way under covered. In Ohio the min is $12.5k. That sounds more like a Visa limit than an insurance policy. You have somebody come after you an insurance company will not give a hoot about that much $ and will just write a check and leave you hanging for the rest of the money the ambulance chaser wants. Mark McCoy Brian Shepard wrote: > I live IN Philly and have an 99 KLR. I pay about $600/yr for minimum. I'm looking into it as > it sounds way high. I got the insurance from the dealer when I bought my bike. > > -Brian Shepard > Philadelphia PA > > dan shaw wrote: > > > I live right outside of phily and have a 89 KLR. my insurance is about > > $175/ year, for the minimun required. > > > > dan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Schenck, Michael > > > To: 'KLR650 mailing list' > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 5:55 PM > > > Subject: (klr650) KLR Insurance > > > > > > > > > > I would not complain with $198/yr. In Albuquerque, > > > NM my insurance is > > > > $624/yr. How old are you guys and how old are your > > > bikes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > 97 KLR 650 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to > > > majordomo@lists.xmission.com > > > leave subject blank. > > > > In the body of the message type: > > > subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or > > > subscribe/unsubscribe > > > > klr650-digest). > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to > > > majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. > > > In the body of the message type: > > > subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or > > > subscribe/unsubscribe > > > klr650-digest). > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. > > In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe > > klr650-digest). > > To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. > In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe > klr650-digest). To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:55:47 -0400 From: "Blake, Paul" Subject: (klr650) A Great Experience! I have to say, with all of the bad press that is given to Kawasaki dealers on this list, I was extremely concerned about having the 500 mile first service done on my bike. After visiting a few dealers in the Dallas area, and with the opinion of Mr. Jim Henry, I decided to go with the dealer from which I had originally purchased my A13, Kawasaki of Carrollton, Tx. I called them on Friday morning, shortly after they opened and they were able to get me in that day. I dropped the bike off at noon, and was able to pick it up on Saturday by 3:00. I thought this was great!! When I arrived to pick it up, they brought the bike around and I had an opportunity to talk with the mechanic that had performed the service. He said it was a good thing I had the valves checked, because I had one valve out of spec. which required an additional shim. I have to say, this made me feel 100% better! He went over everything else they did, and some helpful hints for maintaining the bike. When I got on and hit the starter, I could tell she was in top, all be it stock, form. I am extremely pleased with the quality of the work and service provided by this dealership, and would recommend them to anyone in the Dallas area. To top it all off, this level of satisfaction was attained for a mere $85 (keep in mind, I changed my own oil and filter)!!! which is about $40 less than what I was quoted by the other dealers in the area, and WELL worth it! Just thought the KLR listers would appreciate a positive story about a Kawasaki dealerships service department. To celebrate, and FINALLY get to REALLY ride my KLR, I took a three hour tour up to Lake Ray Roberts, and back! What a blast!! Cruising at 70+ mph on twisty back roads!! What a rush!! Paul Dallas, TX A13 PS. They have the Y2K KLR650 on the floor, along with the Super Sherpa. The new color, well, I suppose it could grow on you. I didn't think it was all that bad, but I like the Bluish Green of my A13 much better. I think the Super Sherpa has a sort of Retro look to it. To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #622 ****************************