From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #640 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, July 22 1999 Volume 02 : Number 640 Re: (klr650) Interstate Travel again! (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) now NKLR Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) (klr650) Moab (klr650) suspension convention Re: (klr650) KLRs on the interstates...NKLR Re: (klr650) suspension convention RE: (klr650) suspension convention ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:41:28 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Interstate Travel again! At 09:10 AM 7/22/99 -0400, Steamroller wrote: >Being a truckdriver, I might be able to shed light on why truckers HATE >being tailgated. Believe it or not, in addition to being worried about >themselves they're worried about you. There's nothing like being next to or behind a truck when a big chunk of rubber departs a wheel. It's a very special, puckered sort of feeling. Stuart To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:52:55 -0400 (EDT) From: dan shaw Subject: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) - --- Paul Christenson wrote: > > I thought the idea of having a bike was to cruise > down the middle of > traffic! > > Not all states allow that. is cruising thru the middle of traffic on a mcycle legal anywhere. i assumed it was illegal in all states. there have been many times ive been tempted to do this but havent because i thought it was illegal. dan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:12:19 -0400 From: Mark Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) now NKLR At 9:52 AM -0400 7/22/99, dan shaw wrote: >--- Paul Christenson wrote: >> > I thought the idea of having a bike was to cruise >> down the middle of >> traffic! >> >> Not all states allow that. > >is cruising thru the middle of traffic on a mcycle legal anywhere. i >assumed it was illegal in all states. there have been many times ive >been tempted to do this but havent because i thought it was illegal. That's why I leave the roadway entirely, but tread lightly. The KLR is a dualsport, or "onroad-offroad" motorcycle. I discussed this with a state trooper friend of mine and he said that I would not get a ticket unless I left the road at any place other than a driveway, offramp or intersection, etc. It would be up to the property owner or property administrator to charge trespassing and/or sue for damage done by the bike. Mark B2 A2 To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:20:40 +0100 From: drainr@TBEUK.COM Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) Message is sent with MIME. Attachments are base64 encoded - --TFS-with-MIME-and-DIME Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable In the UK it is legal, though if you were to ride through stationary traffic at say 35 to 40 mph ( as is common for many a m/cycle courier over here), It would normally result in getting either a ticket for dangerous driving, or knocked off by cars changing lanes without looking=2E=2E=2EOuch!=2E This is where the KLR comes into its own=2E The high riding position allows you to look much further ahead=2E I like to see what I'm about to hit!!! 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In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:25:58 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) dan shaw wrote: [...] > is cruising thru the middle of traffic on a mcycle legal anywhere. Probably not moving traffic. > i > assumed it was illegal in all states. Here in Victoria Australia, it is legal to lanesplit (as we call it) when the traffic is stationary. The main legal glitch is that you should use the indicators when you cross a lane line. Yeah, sure. > there have been many times ive > been tempted to do this but havent because i thought it was illegal. Things are only illegal when you get caught doing them. KLRs are quite good at lanesplitting despite the wide bars. The bars are high enough to go above most cage mirrors and the skinny profile squeezes between panels, and good visibility and rider posture gives good control. Most cops here don't bother much with lanesplitting bikers as long as you appear to doing it sensibly. Besides, if the traffic is heavy and they're in a car, there's not much chance they'll catch you anyway. Even their police issue bikes would have trouble keeping up with a keenly ridden KLR. The police bikes are generally either K1100 BMs or ST1100 Hondas. Either is good in a straight line, but lose out squeezing between cars. I have lanesplit at 140kmh between moving traffic in the wet down the freeway, but it's not something I do often. Mister_T - -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au | \|_________________________________________________________________| To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:31:01 PDT From: "Paul Christenson" Subject: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) >is cruising thru the middle of traffic on a mcycle legal anywhere. It is legal in California. There are restrictions (no more than 10 MPH faster than traffic, not to exceed posted limit, etc.), and it's discouraged, but it *IS* legal here. Of course, that means nothing to the 4 wheel idiots that find it sporting to ride the white line and not let you pass. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:49:46 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: cruise thru traffic (was running hot) drainr@TBEUK.COM wrote: > In the UK it is legal, though if you were to ride through > stationary traffic at say 35 to 40 mph ( as is common for many a > m/cycle courier over here), It would normally result in getting > either a ticket for dangerous driving, or knocked off by cars > changing lanes without looking...Ouch!. I haven't experienced the lane change cutoff yet, but I have suffered an opening door. The traffic on the freeway had stopped for a red light (traffic lights on a freeway? only in Australia) and I was slowly lanesplitting my way to the front when a door opened on me. (Only in Australia: a red light on a freeway, and somebody getting out of a car) The door opening was perfectly timed to give me no chance to stop. Amazing how people can not see a 55W halogen light pointing into their door mirror. Mister_T To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:57:15 -0700 From: captwazoo Subject: (klr650) Moab ANOMALY ALERT: Mission Central has detected a ripple in the fabric of this dimension. e-mail containing the phrase, "Gee, I'd like to go to Moab", is causing a change in this reality. In the face of there being a solar eclipse, Wednesday, Aug 11, 1999, users are reminded of their duties concerning submission, production, and adherence to acceptable emotional inputs. work!.............work!................work!.................. To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:01:30 -0400 (EDT) From: dan shaw Subject: (klr650) suspension convention hellow people. i need some advice from a suspension knowladgable person. the other day i installed a new progressive rear shock on the klr. after riding around with it i felt it was a little on the harsh side. i tried lowering the spring preload to almost the min thinking that this would soften up the spring. but then i thought about that and it seems to me that changin the preload simply changes the amount of sag the suspension has...it will still compress the spring the same amout regardless of prelaod. in other owrds, as long as there is atleast some sag in the suspension, the spring will be compressed the same amount when your sitting on the bike, no matter what the preload, it just may be higher or lower. is this correct? and lowering the preload wont give a softer ride? ok, thanks in advance . dan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:12:55 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLRs on the interstates...NKLR >So the next time someone sez.... "I'm gonna' take a shower" >You say " Be careful, you're taking your life in your own hands" >Or since everyone is health insurance conscience, I'd say..." Does your HMO >cover you for accidents in the shower?...without a helmet!?" 8^). >NY Pete struth! Happened to no less than Thomas Merton in Thailand... Kurt To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:30:51 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) suspension convention dan shaw wrote: > hellow people. i need some advice from a suspension knowladgable > person. I'll try to answer anyway. [...] > to me that changin the preload simply changes the amount of sag the > suspension has...it will still compress the spring the same amout > regardless of prelaod. in other owrds, as long as there is atleast some > sag in the suspension, the spring will be compressed the same amount > when your sitting on the bike, no matter what the preload, it just may > be higher or lower. is this correct? and lowering the preload wont > give a softer ride? Generally, yes. This assumes a constant rate spring of course. There might be some small variations in the wheel to shock travel ratio due to the geometry in the shock linkages, giving the customary "rising rate", so setting minimum preload may put the linkages into the "harder" end of their ratio. But, mostly the preload sets the suspension height, the spring controls the spring rate. If the shock has compression damping, that can have a perceived affect over bumps if that damping setting is too high. Give the new shock a bit of distance to bed in, then see how it suits. Mister_T To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 9:50:00 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino" Subject: RE: (klr650) suspension convention The Progressive shock has preload and rebound adjustments. If the shock seems stiff, release some of the preload by backing off the two spanner nuts at the top of the spring. Play with the rebound adjuster at the top of the shock (small hex-head). You will need to just fiddle with it over the coure of time you will dial it in. My Progressive was a pre-production model and was very stiff to begin with, but has settled down with a couple thousand miles. Gino >>hellow people. i need some advice from a suspension knowladgable person. the other day i installed a new progressive rear shock on the klr. after riding around with it i felt it was a little on the harsh side. << To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #640 ****************************