From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #795 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, August 30 1999 Volume 02 : Number 795 RE: (klr650) Disk Drive NKLR Re: (klr650) Fuel Starvation Problem Re: (klr650) Do I need a battery? Re: (klr650) "Buy American" "Made in America" BS NKLR Re: (klr650) Need Brake advice Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR (klr650) Bird Incident NKLR (klr650) (NKLR) Speaking of Bill.... Re: NKLR (klr650) Kilimanjaro Re: (klr650) Aerostich Panniers RE: (klr650) Fuel Starvation Problem Re: (klr650) nklr-who cares abiut buying american? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:55:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: RE: (klr650) Disk Drive NKLR Zip's are a great cheap backup for simple handfulls of files, I use one. Just know that Zip disks have an ugly way of exploding occasionally. They aren't known for long term stability so if you have anything truly critical back it up fairly frequently and redundantly. If you want long term stability get a CD burner, if you have a large archive you need done get a good tape drive and do redundant backups every few weeks, more often if you rely on the data for business. 'Exploding' referred to data loss btw...you won't need a bunker ;-). On 30-Aug-99 Pokluda, Gino wrote: > >>>I have a question: > Which way is the world going on high capacity removable disk drives? > Zip 100 Drives > Zip 250 Drives > LS-120 Drives<< > > I have a zip 100 and it works fine, but I think everything is headed to a CD > reader/writer. These are starting to pop up where I work. > > Gino > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for > info. - ---------------------------------- Date: 30-Aug-99 Time: 14:55:54 - ---------------------------------- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:29:55 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuel Starvation Problem Hey Steve, If your problem happens to be the petcock, I have the rebuild kits in stock. Fred - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Rottenberg To: klr650 Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:38 AM Subject: (klr650) Fuel Starvation Problem > Hey, > > The KLR is back together after a deep cleaning of the carburetor, > replacing all the fuel and ventilation hoses and installing an inline fuel > filter. > > I took her out on Sat night for a test ride, and got it up to 80 mph > (the trouble zone) and it still doing the same thing. It dies and comes back > to life around 60mph or so. > > I got my first issue of MCN and read a readers' letter, telling the tale > of a fuel starvation problem he had on his PC 800 I believe, and he > discovered his problem to be a cracked diaphragm inside the vacuum operated > fuel petcock. > > Anybody ever had this happen ? It does sound like the problem I'm > having, and since I already replaced/cleaned all the other parts of my fuel > system, I'm leaning towards this solution now. And if after replacing this > diaphragm it still bogs @ 80 mph it will mean that it was an electrical > problem to begin with and all the work I did wasn't necessary. Darn. > > Ride Hard > > Steve in Tampa > 98 B12 > 95 KLR 650 > > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for > info. > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:40:28 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Do I need a battery? >(Ok, for LindaT and Sarah we can include a token beefcake). >"The Kawasaki Excercise Machine! Doesn't need electricity, dismantles >for easy storage, can be wheeled from room to room and makes a great >converstaion piece when guests come around." >"Parts and accessories sold separately. This offer not valid where >fair trading legislation exists." errr, I think Linda already owns one of these. She just needs the beefcake.... Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:57:15 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) "Buy American" "Made in America" BS NKLR > > > I don't care about > > > competition with sweat shops, they have a different standard of living. > > If > > > the workers are not held against there will, what does that say to you? > > You should care, it could be you one day! > > That is a motivating factor to excel at one's job. We all have to worry > about Skippy, the guy next to us, in competition. Same thing applies for > Paku in Pakistan. One of the key's to this country's origins is the free > market. Interference with the free market slows down progress. If there > are no motivating factors to drive one to excel, progress stops. There are > other aspects to consider also, such as the loss of the benefits of trade. > If we stop purchasing Paku's stuff that he can make so efficiently in > Pakistan, Pakistani's decide to stop purchasing minivan's that Mark produces > so efficiently in Atlanta. This snowballs, and everyone loses. It all > comes down to competition, and competition is good. > > All this crap is all from a white-tower, macroeconomic-theory perspective > with all the normal assumptions and ceterus paribus crap. > I suggest you study up on John Maynard Keynes's "General Theory". It wasn't a bunch of crap when the "free market" led this country into the Great Deppression. Our country has already experimented with a Laissez-Faire economic policy, and it failed miserably. Keynesian Economic approach DOESN'T mean big government, only that the government has a large role in "nudging" the economy when needed, seeing how it is such a large player. What do you think would happen if the government stopped making purchases? Laissez-Faire economic policy in government simple meant trying to keep a balanced budget. But you know that sometimes you have to spend money to make money. During the Depression, the government finally realized that they had to spend money to put people back to work so that they could spend money so that money could be made and re-invested and start the economic cycle over again. All people in the economic model have a marginal propensity to consume, and this results in a spending multiplier. What I'm saying is that for each dollar the government spends, it roughly impacts the economy as if four dollars were spent, due to the multiplier effect. Remember, the Gross Domestic Product is calculated thusly: Consumption + Investment + Government spending + (Exports - Imports) = GDP I care about what is manufactured and consumed in this country only in that our exports should roughly equal our imports, but they aren't even close, resulting in a huge trade deficit that is hurting the Gross Domestic Product. Like I said, I don't care if the profits go to some foreign country, if the goods are manufactured here in the US, then American workers have jobs. And guess what? The profits that that foreign country makes just get turned around and re-invested back here. If you care at all about social and environmental issues, then you'd realize that the single most defining circumstance is whether or not people are working and able to feed their families. Poverty results in civil strife, and pollution. But that is beside the point. My point is that these people in Saipan are under the American flag, and thus should enjoy all of the protections that the Constitution offers. The workers from China are lured to Saipan by promises of US citizenship and great jobs. They are then subjected to inhuman working conditions and human right's violations. The fact that this is happening under our flag pisses me off. Economic issues aside, this is the problem that makes me angry. I heard reports of women (they hire mostly women, because they are easier to push around) who got pregnant, and fired because of it, with no means of compensation or way to get back home, told that they must get an abortion if they want to go back to work. I'm not trying to start a debate on abortion, but this is a clear human right's violation. Last I heard, working resident aliens are still protected by our constitutional law. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:02:15 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Need Brake advice however the rear brake seems to require way more > effort and will not lock up the rear tire (even on dirt) without a huge > effort or not at all on the street. > Any ideas for the mechanically challenged?? What did I do wrong and what to > look at. > What has mechanically changed is that your rear tire now has WAY more traction in the dirt, and thus it is harder to lock it up. But you should be able to lock it easier on the street, since you lowered the street traction with the MT21. You might want to take that rear wheel off again and see if the brake pads are properly seated and correctly installed. Its not hard. While you are down there, bleed the rear brake line and check your brake lever adjustment. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:04:10 PDT From: "Paul Christenson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR >How safe is it to ride a bike in lightning? My instinct says >to take cover. Trust your instinct. Get out of the storm. Riding in a car during a T-storm is relatively safe, since even if you did get hit, the current flows around you, through the frame. On a bike, you're simply another target. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:59:02 -0400 From: "Blake, Paul" Subject: (klr650) Bird Incident NKLR Has anyone ever had a run in with a bird while riding? It was the strangest thing! I was riding at just about dusk, about 70mph, when all of the sudden a blurry blob is right in front of me and then suddenly slams into my right shoulder!! Talk about a stinger! If whatever it was survived, it's got to be hurting. I turned around shortly after it hit me to see what it was, but by then it was too dark to really see anything in the area. Fortunately, I wasn't hurt, though it left some nasty residue on my shirt ( I don't care to speculate as to the nature of the residue thank you). Sure makes you stop and think about how vulnerable you are on a bike! I went back the next day and did not find anything in the general area, so I guess whatever it was survived. Paul - ducking, err uh... scanning for fowl crossing the highway A13 Flying Behemoth Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:06:00 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino" Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Speaking of Bill.... Has anyone even heard from Bill Haycock lately? My e-mails to him keep bouncing back. Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:10:51 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: NKLR (klr650) Kilimanjaro > << Made in USA >> > > I am not sure what your point is. I have a Subaru Legacy, which was "made" > (assembled) in Indiana by American blue collars, and two Honda's and a > Kawasaki that were made in Japan. My point is that Andy Goldfine (?) of > Aerostitch worked hard to create a line of clothing that many are now > copying. I have been to Duluth and know that they do the work in the US. > Besides, even though I have not met him, I know that Andy is a character, and > we all appreciate characters. The ramifications of international trade and > buying domestic Vs foreign products is too complicated for my peanut brain, > and I have an Economics education, which should make it possible. I am not a > flag waver by nature. I just like to support the local guy rather than a > marketer who may or may not have supported us in the past. Exactly what I am saying is that your Subaru contributed to the Gross Domestic Product, so did you Aerostitch garments. You Hondas and Kawasaki didn't contribute to the GDP. They contributed to the trade deficit. But in the case of Japanese trade, that isn't as bad as most people would have you believe, because they mostly take their profits and re-invest them back in the US, getting screwed in the yen to dollar exchange rate in the process! My big concern about Made in the USA labels is that sometimes they are misleading, and some garments that are so labeled are actually made in Saipan sweat shops. Supporting the local guy is almost always the best way to go, if it doesn't hurt your budget to do so. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:29:13 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Aerostich Panniers At 10:01 PM 8/29/99 -0500, Carlos Y. Gonz=E1lez wrote: >I called aerostich to order a set of regular size tank panniers for the KLR >and they said that those bags work on everything BUT a KLR.=20 They fit on the KLR. I'm 6' and they work. The holes on a Moose bash plate are well positioned for the bungee hooks. The larger pannier set in coincidentally sized to accept a one gallon gas can on each side, with a little room left over. Aerostich warns that this isn't supposed to be done, but the design screams otherwise. Stuart A12 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:32:00 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino" Subject: RE: (klr650) Fuel Starvation Problem >>I got my first issue of MCN and read a readers' letter, telling the tale of a fuel starvation problem he had on his PC 800 I believe, and he discovered his problem to be a cracked diaphragm inside the vacuum operated fuel petcock.<< Have you taken the petcock out of the tank and cleaned the screen on the feed tubes? Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:32:53 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) nklr-who cares abiut buying american? ,"oh, you have one of those built in > Mexico, The iron they make down there is piss poor, too soft and the engine > blocks score and the brake rotors wear soon, get rid of it! > Chrystler had the quality control problem, it wasn't the fault of where it was made. > I really want to care about buying american but isn't it a moot point? is > there a single item that isn't partly made overseas?( Maybe corn muffins) I > now own an american made vehicle > a Nissan pickup, made in tennesee. some parts may have been made in japan but > all the assembly and maintenence that it will need will be done and paid for > here to americans. The best part is that it was designed by Japanese > engineers. I take exception to that comment about Japanese engineers, as an asipring American engineer. Besides, Nissan trucks are engineered in California! And, it doesn't matter that components were manufactured in Japan, those are intemediate goods. All that counts is the final product, which was produced in the US, so counts towards our GDP. I'll tell you why America will always succeed over the Japanese: We have more nerds than they do. In Japan, they totally emphasize conformity, and thus don't have any nerds. Here, we emphasize being unique. Thus we have more nerds. Its through our differences that we get such great creativity and ideas. > > You can try to be proud of the american workforce and way of life but in the > end we will have allowed our politicians to give all our work away to our > neighbors to the north and south. Well, do you have any idea what the work that has moved down to Mexico has done for that countries economy? By putting their people to work, they will be able to afford to stop polluting the environment, get such basic things like running clean water and electricity, and more importantly, be able to afford to buy our products. Global trade is a good thing, as long as it is roughly balanced! Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #795 ****************************