From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #803 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, August 31 1999 Volume 02 : Number 803 Re: (klr650) Bird Incident NKLR Re: (klr650) Skid Plates and Brush Guards (klr650) Unsubscribe Re: (klr650) KLR650 Handling difficulties Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR (klr650) Unsubscribe RE: (klr650) Re:NKLR Bird Incident Re: (klr650) KLR650 Handling difficulties RE: (klr650) Performance Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR Re: (klr650) Unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:02:34 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Bird Incident NKLR I've noticed this behavior with swallows, around both cars and motorcycles, and even flying golf balls! My personal theory is that while a vehicle travels down the road, it stirs up the insects, which the swallow eats. So by flying in very close vicinity to the vehicle, the swallow only has to open its mouth to catch bugs, unstead of working harder for them. I love watching those things fly. Jeff > Yes, quite frequently and I have a theory. Many believe that "playing" or > "playfulness" is very common in the animal kingdom. People like to play and > animals like to play also. > Call it goofing off. I swear that birds like to play with motorcycles. Many many > times while riding on long country roads that border large farm fields I notice > out of my peripheral vision that a bird or several birds are flying parallel to me > about 20 or 30 yards away matching my speed. Then one of them will cross over > right in front of my path and then flies parallel to me on the other side. Then > the other birds follow one by one. Then they cross over again back to the other > side flying parallel mathing my speed. Somtimes they come very close and I have > brushed them with my helmet. This happens almost all the time to me while riding > on these long country roads that border farm fields. Has this happened to anyone? > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:12:39 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Skid Plates and Brush Guards I have a couple of quick questions that I would like some help with. I've just bought a '99 KLR650 and would like to put a beefier skid plate underneath it. I've heard that Moose makes one of the better ones, does anyone have any other brands that may be better? And I would like to also to replace the plastic hand brush guards with aluminum ones. Any advice regarding either would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :) There is just two things I have to say: get the Moose, and get Maier Pro Woods. They can't be beat! (Well, they can, but they can take it!) Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:20:09 -0400 From: "Stanton Rush" Subject: (klr650) Unsubscribe This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEF3CC.B20802E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Headed out for a few weeks, please unsubscribe. - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEF3CC.B20802E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEF3CC.B20802E0-- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:24:32 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 Handling difficulties Its like this: No good tires, no good tracking and traction in the loose stuff. I have yet to ride a decent 50/50 tire that works well on such a heavy bike. I'm riding IRC-GP-1's now, and in a lot of sand. I figure that it is improving my riding skills and balance for when I can finally afford some bad assed DOT legal knobbies. Once I get those, LOOK OUT! If you intend to ride a lot of off road, say 80 off, 20 on, then look for Pirelli MT21's. If you intend to go 50-50, then IRC GP-1's or Kenda K270's. It seems to me that the stock tires are rated 60 street, 40 off. I don't know about more street oriented tires, but everyone seems to like the Avon Gripsters. Be warned that every tire has compromises, i.e. good dirt, poor street and wears out fast on street, good street, sucks off road. Myself, I think that I am going to take Vik's advise and try the Continentals (TC80?) for my next tires. They are supposed to be a full on dirt knob that has good longevity on the street. Jeff > I took my A12 with stock tires out on Sunday for some off-road (way > off-road) fun. In an attempt to climb a moderately steep hill on a > well worn but sandy trail I found that my front end would not track in > a straight line. The result was a near disaster, but fortunately when > the rear came round to the front there was enough space beside the > trail to stop on fairly level area without dumping the bike. > > I have also experienced this uncontrolled feeling in the front end > when on rutted trails, especially when they are of the wet clay > variety. > > Is my problem related to the lack of sidewall knobs like on a true > off-road tire which allow the front end to ride up and over ruts and > track better in sand? Am I simply not skillful enough off-road with > the KLR650? Has anyone on the list experienced this handling > phenomenon? > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:26:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR On 31-Aug-99 Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: >> Also my Grandfather gave me a cool leather >> riding jacket from the 70's that's also very stiff. I would like to >> recondition it. any suggestions? > > Kiwi Saddle Soap, followed by mink oil for the gloves. I would ask a pro > about the jacket though, but I'm pretty sure that the saddle soap won't > hurt. > > Jeff One thing I found with saddle soap though...if it isn't an absolutely fresh can the jacket will stink pretty badly after a while. Those cans like to grow all sorts of lovely things in them...I just about burned a few pairs of boots because of saddle soap in the past. As soon as your feet warm them up...lookout! Heh. Try taking the jacket to a leather cleaner, they'll be able to get it restored...but they are usually expensive. - ---------------------------------- Date: 31-Aug-99 Time: 16:26:28 - ---------------------------------- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:20:09 -0400 From: "Stanton Rush" Subject: (klr650) Unsubscribe This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEF3CC.B20802E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Headed out for a few weeks, please unsubscribe. - ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEF3CC.B20802E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEF3CC.B20802E0-- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:32:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: RE: (klr650) Re:NKLR Bird Incident Uh oh, that was probably someone's prized fighting cock. On 31-Aug-99 Stuart Heaslet wrote: > Didn't do it on a KLR, but while riding a bike at 45 mph down a hill near > La Canada in L.A., a chicken ran out and stuck its head in the front > spokes. Didn't dump the bike, but there was a lot of feathers and blood. > > Stuart > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for > info. - ---------------------------------- Date: 31-Aug-99 Time: 16:32:13 - ---------------------------------- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:33:01 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 Handling difficulties > Entering the 4th week of ownership with a completely stock 1993, I have > experienced the same problem. Mounted front and rear are IRC GP-110s, a decent 50 > dirt/50 street tire. > I'm not sure that I'd call the GP-110's a "decent" 50/50 tire. The GP-1's are more aggressive, and they are rated 50/50, and their sand traction sucks! I can't complain at all about their street ride though, now that they have well worn in. They make this nice howling noise going down the interstate at 60+mph, which I can play with by leaning the bike off center from side to side. Keeps me amused. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: RE: (klr650) Performance Well I strap an No2 bottle on my head since I quit wearing a helmet to cut down on weight, that helps. I also run Cam2 gas at $9/gallon with the money I saved skipping any jacket or gloves. As for the deputies, carry a gun, they'll run away. The best mod so far has been the V-Max rear tire fitment it makes the bike go way fast. A grizzly doesn't stand a chance in catching me now. On 31-Aug-99 Pokluda, Gino wrote: > > Anyone know how I can get my 95 KLR650 to pull wheelies in 5th gear? It's > the baddest KLR around and beats the snot out of anyone elses on this list. > Today alone, I out ran 2 county deputies by weaving in and out of traffic. > Even made a racer boy on a Ducati pull over in awe ;-) [g] > > > Gino > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for > info. - ---------------------------------- Date: 31-Aug-99 Time: 16:39:14 - ---------------------------------- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:01:25 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR > One thing I found with saddle soap though...if it isn't an absolutely fresh can > the jacket will stink pretty badly after a while. Those cans like to grow all > sorts of lovely things in them...I just about burned a few pairs of boots > because of saddle soap in the past. As soon as your feet warm them > up...lookout! Heh. Try taking the jacket to a leather cleaner, they'll be able > to get it restored...but they are usually expensive. > Oh so that's what that smell was! . Actually, I never noticed this. In the Army, you can imagine how much of this stuff I used, so I never had it sit around for too long. I probably went through a can of Kiwi Black and Kiwi Neutral (the big cans) every other month or so. Actually, the neutral lasted longer, but I still went through a ton. Every time I got back from the field, I scrubbed the boots down with the saddle soap to get all the salt out of the leather, probably took about a quarter of the can per pair of boots and gloves. I found that it washed out the salts and grime, and softened the leather up and prepped it for the polish. I've actually had good results using shaving cream too. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:18:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Subject: Re: (klr650) Thunder Storms/Wet leather NKLR Amazing how long a pair of jump boots will last when coated with a few cans of Kiwi. I have a pair that are side zip capped toe jump boots that are on their fourth set of soles. I dread the day I need to break in another pair, these are like sneakers. I'm not as fanatical about shining them these days, but under an hour I could have a mirror shine on this pair again easily because the leather is so thoroughly impregnated with Kiwi. If it weren't for the zipper they'd be waterproof. On 31-Aug-99 Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: >> One thing I found with saddle soap though...if it isn't an absolutely > fresh can >> the jacket will stink pretty badly after a while. Those cans like to grow > all >> sorts of lovely things in them...I just about burned a few pairs of boots >> because of saddle soap in the past. As soon as your feet warm them >> up...lookout! Heh. Try taking the jacket to a leather cleaner, they'll be > able >> to get it restored...but they are usually expensive. >> > Oh so that's what that smell was! . Actually, I never noticed this. In > the Army, you can imagine how much of this stuff I used, so I never had it > sit around for too long. I probably went through a can of Kiwi Black and > Kiwi Neutral (the big cans) every other month or so. Actually, the neutral > lasted longer, but I still went through a ton. Every time I got back from > the field, I scrubbed the boots down with the saddle soap to get all the > salt out of the leather, probably took about a quarter of the can per pair > of boots and gloves. I found that it washed out the salts and grime, and > softened the leather up and prepped it for the polish. I've actually had > good results using shaving cream too. > > Jeff > - ---------------------------------- Date: 31-Aug-99 Time: 17:18:16 - ---------------------------------- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:30:01 +0000 From: "Steve Rottenberg" Subject: Re: (klr650) Unsubscribe > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. 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