From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #854 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, September 8 1999 Volume 02 : Number 854 Re: (klr650) Eggparka (NKLR) Fwd: (klr650) ongoing mid life crisis (NKLR) (klr650) KLR functional pick Re: (klr650) Redundancy revisited Re: NKLR(klr650) ATK Nice Machine! Re: (klr650) RE: Nukes NKLR (klr650) New model KLR specs? Re: (klr650) Redundancy revisited Re: (klr650) New model KLR specs? (klr650) RE:(NKLR) Cool weather gear? (and raingear) Fwd: (klr650) New model KLR specs? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:39:45 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) Eggparka (NKLR) - -----Original Message----- From: Smi5o@aol.com To: moabmc@lasal.net Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:35 PM Subject: (klr650) Eggparka (NKLR) >In a message dated 9/8/99 8:35:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, moabmc@lasal.net >writes: > ><< Fred ( the only good egg is in an omelet) >> > >Fred- > I take this comment to mean you don't believe this garment is worth >purchasing or using. Am I getting you correctly? Thanx for the site >address............. > > Steve Steve, I think this garment can't hurt in a crash, but how many times are you going to repack it after walking away from your KLR while tethered in? I think after a few egg-barassing events you'll just leave it in the closets. This might be good for armed robbers though...wear it under a trenchcoat and run from the cops...duck around a corner pull the cord and slap on a fake beard. The cops will stop and ask you if you've seen a skinny guy running past you....=) An Egg-cellent idea no?...=) Cheers, Vik Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:42:52 EDT From: Smi5o@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (klr650) ongoing mid life crisis (NKLR) - --part1_58b09d6.2508325c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/8/99 9:40:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jomarron@yahoo.com writes: << Au contraire, I have been snipped, and am shooting sperm lite, less filling, tastes great!! Alex >> Hey Alex, you are a wise man. Steve Aye14 - --part1_58b09d6.2508325c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:40:30 -0400 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:40:15 -0400 Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11OhwX-0007bP-00 for klr650-goout@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:39:21 -0600 Received: from [205.180.60.174] (helo=send205.yahoomail.com) by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11OhwV-0007bJ-00 for klr650@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:39:19 -0600 Message-ID: <19990908134033.20757.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.124.47.51] by web131.yahoomail.com; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 06:40:33 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Jomarron Subject: Re: (klr650) ongoing mid life crisis (NKLR) To: Stuart Heaslet , Kurt Simpson , Arne Larsen , klr650@lists.xmission.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Alex Jomarron Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stuart wrote: You're in love and gearing up for breeding season. Au contraire, I have been snipped, and am shooting sperm lite, less filling, tastes great!! Alex === Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. - --part1_58b09d6.2508325c_boundary-- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:00:15 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) KLR functional pick >According to compare net (http//compare.net), the KLR beats out the other dualsports and takes its place as the "Functional Pick" next to the Goldwing, Ninja, Suz. GS500, and the Harley FLSTS Heritage Springer. > >"This is the Swiss Army Knife of motorcycles. Solid road handling, sizeable cargo capabilities, and dirt slinging ease make this mutt man's best friend," the site says, basing its pick on product value, product performace and product ratings. > >The Honda XR650L gets the rating for "Fun Pick," however. > >Ryan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:01:44 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Redundancy revisited >Arne said it a lot better... But if beating a >dead horse floats your boat, well then have at >it. However, I (ever so gently) recommend that >you let it go. (the other) Juan I agree...let's move on...glad you're hanging in there Juan... Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:05:58 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: NKLR(klr650) ATK Nice Machine! >> Kurt, or anyone, you ever ride one a them? They look >> well made....but do they handle.....and what kinda range no one seems to have an indifferent opinion about ATK's, those who like them swear buy them, those that don't swear at them. No one in between. They get panned regularly in the press but everyone loves the quality of the goodies on their bikes... Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:16:42 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: Nukes NKLR > I am sure that every technical problem in the use of nuclear power > can be solved, including waste disposal. Burning coal for power is certainly > an unpleasant thing to do to our lungs and our agriculture. However, more > than a century of the consequences of greed has not sterilized the earth. It > has caused many deaths, much misery. But the effects have been slow enough > to be caught before they decimated large regions of the world, for the most > part are not progressive, and to a great extent are reversible. Nuclear > power poses special hazards, the POTENTIAL consequences of which are much > more wide-spread and long-lasting than those of coal-fueled power. So, it's > simply a matter of ensuring that those hazards are prevented from > manifesting themselves. Every technical hazard can be overcome. That leaves > only the non-technical hazards of decision-making, supervision and > management. > The technical problems of nuclear power have all been solved, and have been since the early 80's. All that is missing is the political will to spend the money on it. Long term consequences for coal? How about heavy metal accumulation in the soil from the coal sludge? Lung cancer reversible? PLEASE! And point of order, the "long term special hazards" or nuclear power, radiation, is containable, and only has been proven to be hazardous to humans, not the environment. As for potential consequences, the world has already seen the worst that could happen, and that was at Chernobyl, which was an uncontained reactor, and is now entombed. The ONLY uncontained reactor in the US, the N reactor at Hanford, has been decommissioned for several years now, and the only purpose of the N reactor was to create plutonium, not for power generation. The worst commercial accident that this country has seen, TMI, didn't release any appreciable amount of radiation, less than what you are getting now as you read this message from your computor screen! You worry about what ifs. I'm telling you that coal burning is killing people now, not that it might kill people. What if you are driving your car down the road and you don't turn the wheel when you come to a curve? You can what if issues to death, which is what has happened to nuclear power. > So, as soon as the regulation of the nuclear-power industry is in > the hands of an immortal, benign, apolitical, omniscient, omnipotent agency, > and the management of the plants in the hands of those whose interests are > not mercenary, you let me know. Then I'm with you all the way. Until then, I > oppose expansion of nuclear power generation, and await the inevitable > consequences of the inevitable stupidity and cupidity in the management of > what we have. > All of the problems with nuclear power have been forever linked to the manufacture and finishing of fissionable materials for making nuclear bombs. Due to the political need to create as many bombs as possible in the shortest time possible, the government agency in charge cut corners and failed to properly plan for the future, leaving the industry with a huge mess to clean up. But that is a familiar story. Are you aware that Silicon Valley is one of the most contaminated sites in the world due to the manufacture of silicon wafers for computor chips? As for your description of the government agency that is needed, I'd say that fits the DOE pretty well. > Gotta look to energy sources that are clean, safe and not cheap. > I have spent many years looking at and researching all types of energy sources, and I have found through my research that nuclear is the best option available to us for at least the next 30-40 years. Also, it will take much more experience and research with nuclear power to develope fusion generation, which is the best we could hope for. All of this will take a lot of money. Nuclear power is by no means cheap. No new reactors have been built in this country since the 70's due to their enourmous start up costs. > -Spike > > PS. Any idea why vitrified waste is not seen as a good long-term source of > low-level heat, rather than being dumped? Maybe nobody needs a good > long-term source of low-level heat? > The real beauty of the Waste Isolation Project, storing vitrified wastes, is that all of the stored materials are recoverable if the need is determined in the future. This is important if the country ever decides to start a breeder reactor program again, since this will be a great source of fuel. The problem with using this as a source of low-level heat is that the process of heat transfer becomes very ineffecient at low temperatures. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:17:59 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: (klr650) New model KLR specs? So does anyone in the know have any idea if the KLR650 will continue on into 2001, 2002, etc..? Is there an update or model change looming? Cheers, Vik Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:28:43 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Redundancy revisited > Skip- > > Arne said it a lot better... But if beating a > dead horse floats your boat, well then have at > it. I wonder what the buoyant force of a dead horse is? Jeff--couldn't resist! Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:31:33 EDT From: ILIKEVW4ME@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) New model KLR specs? i found while i was in Europe the klr650 is different. if anyone wants the pic i can scan it Kurt Thomas want to trade/sell my CBR1000f Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:31:08 -0400 From: "Cassell, Jonathan Z" Subject: (klr650) RE:(NKLR) Cool weather gear? (and raingear) > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:29:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: k man > Subject: (klr650) Cool weather gear? > > Hey KLRoids, > > With fall approaching, what do you all do during commutes to stay warm? The > jacket thing is easy enough, just layer up. But I need a shell or something to > wear over my regular pants, ideally cheap, warm (or just windproof?), easy on/off, > I have been using my rain pants but would like something a bit better. > > Somebody hep me! > > Kevin > A10 Tweety Hey, Kevin, When I was younger and dumber (no flame to you!), I used to commute by bike every day of the year that did not see actual frozen stuff coming from the sky. I relied on Damart undergarments and was quite toasty. I think I had their warmest version, because I had to remove it at work or roast. It was a little pricey, but not too bad, and worth it. I also just bought a set of "FroggToggs" which are very lightweight rainproof / windproof / breathable things. I paid $70 for jacket and pants, and they are worth far more. They are mostly sold to golfers, but I think bikers who do not own one of the all-purpose suits should look at them. I wear leather above (shopping for chaps now) and don't want to go for an Aerostich, etc. I wear them for rain, and will use them for wind as the need arises You said you don't like using your rainpants, but these things are very breathable and comfortable (and VERY DRY). The material is strange; feels a little like soft paper. The color is not uniform, probably because of the nature of the material, but the effect is not unattractive. I got blue ones (wanted orange, but they were backordered 2 months and I had a trip to take!) and the color is actually compatible with a '96-'99 KLR! The overall effect is not quite feminine, but not exactly macho, either. Well, as my late, ancient and revered father used to say, "if they don't like it, f--k 'em" Stay warm, -Spike Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:33:37 EDT From: Smi5o@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (klr650) New model KLR specs? - --part1_3a63ee7.25083e41_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/8/99 6:22:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marbach@nucleus.com writes: << So does anyone in the know have any idea if the KLR650 will continue on into 2001, 2002, etc..? Is there an update or model change looming? >> Dude- Y2K is the last year of production for all current large-scale manufacturers. The Apocalypse will be arriving shortly. That's why Kawi chose the color for 2000 to be Army/ camouflage/survivalist green, so's we can get ready........................ Steve Aye14 - --part1_3a63ee7.25083e41_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:22:05 -0400 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 18:21:56 -0400 Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Oq4t-0004v9-00 for klr650-goout@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:20:31 -0600 Received: from [207.34.93.23] (helo=vop.nucleus.com) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Oq4q-0004uj-00 for klr650@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:20:28 -0600 Received: from vik (unverified [207.34.94.56]) by vop.nucleus.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.1.180) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:20:26 -0600 Message-ID: <011001befa48$033be9c0$0c0cfea9@vik> From: "Vik Banerjee" To: "KLR List" Subject: (klr650) New model KLR specs? Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:17:59 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Vik Banerjee" So does anyone in the know have any idea if the KLR650 will continue on into 2001, 2002, etc..? Is there an update or model change looming? Cheers, Vik Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. - --part1_3a63ee7.25083e41_boundary-- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #854 ****************************