From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #936 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Saturday, September 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 936 (klr650) Re: pelican bag (klr650) saddle bag protection Re: (klr650) Stock exhaust surgery Re: (klr650) fuel shut off Re: (klr650) Stock exhaust surgery Re: (klr650) KLR to tow trailer Re: (klr650) Starter Relay Bypass (klr650) klr650 touch up paint Re: (klr650) NKLR..Dual Sport News Scoop Re: (klr650) Starter Relay Bypass (klr650) KLR650 shortage for 2000 Re: (klr650) The Posse Rides Again... Re: (klr650) KLR650 shortage for 2000 Re: (klr650) KLR650 shortage for 2000 [none] (klr650) NKLR group of klrs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:43:53 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: (klr650) Re: pelican bag I have a 1120 mounted there right now but a 1150 will fit. I took a piece of aluminum 4.5" by 5.5" appx 1/8' thick and drilled 4 holes in it in a square pattern, drilled 4 holes to match in the back of the case and bolted then together with stainless allen bolts, washers and nyloc nuts. I then drilled 2 more holes in the top of the plate to bolt the plate to the existing bracket left by the exiting emissions canister. You must use metric bolts here. I have rule that everytime I remove a bolt or machine screw from my bike I replace it with a stainless counterpart. Fortunately one of the local marine supply houses has a good selection.....West Marine...if you need a source...they have a website. Since the addition to my bike of Tim Bernard's side racks I have slightly relocated my case. Tim's rack slightly covers the opening in the fender. I removed the helmet lock, added another piece of aluminum and slid the case back a couple of inches, still utilizing the original backing plate. This has made a real nice addition to my bike. The cases are bombproof and have a loop in the top to attach a small padlock if needed. Some guys on the list have used 1650 cases in the rear as hard panniers. That case is unique in that it can be had with a removable cordura case which adds versatility. Dual Star is said to be releasing rear racks toward this end and I think Tim Bernard's as well as Arne's Mac D racks will also work. http://www.pelican.com/ is the website for anyone that may have missed it. Morgan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:42:47 -0400 From: Michael Durham Subject: (klr650) saddle bag protection howdy all- has anyone ever used real duct tape, the metallic shiny stuff, on the side of their soft luggage to protect it from the muffler? Being metallic in composition I would imagine it being able to handle the heat and keep the bags from being scorched. just wondering-MikeD Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:49:46 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Stock exhaust surgery Carlos Y. Gonz=E1lez wrote: [removable muffler endcap idea] > Ahhh... Good idea. Is this what you did with yours. Yup. > Do you have any > ideas on how to do it for someone who doesn't much in the way of > fabricating capabilities? Having some machining capability is necessary. For the endcap to have even half a chance of sealing, there needs to be some kind of precision fit between the parts. A couple of machined rings could do the job, one welded on the can and one on the endcap. As well, you need to consider how the endcap is held on. If you dispense with the stock endcap (or what's left of it) you have a lot more choices. Screws, springs or rivets could all work in=20 various configurations. Mister_T - --=20 \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | Team RC17 Australia http://replicant.apana.org.au/~viking/ | \|_________________________________________________________________| Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 11:48:59 -0600 From: "Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) fuel shut off >> There is a problem with the petcock if >> it supplies fuel in the off position. It sounds like the diaphragm is >> faulty. > >Skip, I read your later post in response to Juan and that makes perfect >sense. One thing we don't know here though, is how long the bike ran in the >off position - if that is the basis for the faulty diaphram theory. > >When we've traded gas with the KLR (one runs out, so we disconnect the gas >line and fill pop bottles until the carb on the supply bike runs dry) we get >three 500ml bottles filled before the carb runs dry. What I'm saying is >that if his "running in the off position" was only momentary, he wouldn't >have had a chance to run the carb (bowel) dry. It will run for a couple >minutes at idle in the off position. So unless he's ran it for 5 minutes or >so in the off position, we haven't proven a faulty diaphram. I think I'm >making sense... > >Arne > Arne, you make perfect sense. From his post, I was assuming he was actually riding the bike in the off position and in that case something is not only wrong with the diaphragm, but the petcock also. I may have misunderstood him. Your right about draining the carb dry also. I carry some fuel line with me when I go anywhere. I just pull the vacuum line off the petcock , put a piece of my hose on it and suck and pinch it in place to hold the diaphragm open to drain some fuel from the tank. If he was only running for a minute or so at idle, then I doubt anything is wrong with the petcock. Skip Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:04:16 -0600 From: "Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) Stock exhaust surgery >Ooops. My intention was to drill where you drilled, but now that I drilled >where I did, it's just as well. I guess my idea is to open up the can as >much as possible for flow while eliminating the tweet. Getting rid of the >spark arrestor or increasing noise is not much of concern for me either as >I'm rarely off road with my bike. I'm still debating if I should drill >through the spark cone in order to make the exhaust path more straight >through, and to really make sure I nailed the tweet, 'cause I also think >that this is where the tweet is really coming from (if I were the exhaust, >I think I would tweet there if I had to make all those turns :) ). Any >comments on drilling the spark cone (bad idea, good idea)? Of course, the >other option is to just gut the whole thing and make some straight through >competition for the BigGunners out there :) Hmmm...wait a second... > >I suppose the "mistake" of sorts on where I drilled will be good in the >long run because I'll be able to compare my results to yours, Skip. And >since my stock exhaust was just rotting away in a corner of my garage, I'm >willing to take risks with it. Thanks for the help. > >Carlos If you don`t mind by-passing the arrester and want better flow, then where you drilled is fine. The exhaust hits the inlet section of the can and enters three holes, one leads to the spark arrester, and there are two 5/8" holes on a plate that surround the first hole that allow the exhaust to enter the outside chamber of the can and re-enter to pass through the arrester. By drilling where you did, you allow that exhaust to pass straight out. For better flow than that, I would drill through the cone dead center of the can. That would allow straight pass through. It will be really loud due to the fact that you`ve removed most all restrictions, but it should really let her breath. Keep in mind that you`ll have to re-jet, because it will be lean with that much free flow. Let me know how it went. You should really notice a difference. Skip Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 14:39:49 EDT From: TLrydr@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR to tow trailer I pull a trailer behind my goldwing, Not a lot of fun, but i can pack all kinds of stuff. And w ith the brakes on a KLR being half ass , With a trailer the KLR would be over whelmed, I think. You would have to keep it VERY light Mike In a message dated 9/24/99 9:47:23 PM EST, Ztib@aol.com writes: << The question is -- who makes such hitch and who makes a nice lite weight trailer? I doubt if those bicycle trailers would work becasue of the high speeds that would be experienced. Any ideas >> Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 05:21:15 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Starter Relay Bypass Gino quoted andyg: > >>Problem is, on my KLR C3, there *isn't* a yellow/red > wire in the connector! I have four wires: black, > blue/red, and two yellow/black. So which two do I > connect together?!?<< and said: > Ah, your C3 very much like a KLX. I'm pretty sure you go to the blue/red. > I put a spade end on each end of a piece of wire to jumper my KLR A. I had a look at my 650C1 supplement and it seems to run A series wiring colours for this ie 2*Y/R, 1*BL/R, 1*BK. (that supplement has been the most entertaining $20 I've spent lately) Having gone over the wiring diagram I'd agree that for Andy's C3, BLue/Red can be connected to either Yellow/BlacK to bypass the "starter circuit relay" completely. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:39:59 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: (klr650) klr650 touch up paint Sometime back someone was inquiring about touch up paint. Here is the website. http://www.color-rite.com/ Morgan Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:32:45 EDT From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR..Dual Sport News Scoop In a message dated 9/24/99 9:19:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Cloudhid@aol.com writes: << Something is wrong with this picture. While I'm slaving away at headquarters, trying to publish DSN, Kurt is out getting photo ops with sexy new bikes and umbrella girls. Hey Gino, is it too late for me to ask for a different title? >> It's lonely at the top, Ron. Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:39:18 EDT From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Starter Relay Bypass In a message dated 9/25/99 1:23:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, tedp@replicant.apana.org.au writes: << I had a look at my 650C1 supplement and it seems to run A series wiring colours for this ie 2*Y/R, 1*BL/R, 1*BK. (that supplement has been the most entertaining $20 I've spent lately) Having gone over the wiring diagram I'd agree that for Andy's C3, BLue/Red can be connected to either Yellow/BlacK to bypass the "starter circuit relay" completely. >> Would that be a KLR650C1 or a KLX650C1? Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:44:25 EDT From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: (klr650) KLR650 shortage for 2000 I was at my local Kawi dealer yesterday and was told that there could be a shortage of KLR650's for 2000. The dealership is usually able to get KLR's readily, but have been unable to acquire any 2000 models since they sold their first 2. The Kawi sales rep says that it may only get worse until Kawi catches up some time this spring. A large order for KLR650's was placed somewhere in the US and Kaw is having a hard time meeting demand right now. Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:47:59 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: Re: (klr650) The Posse Rides Again... Argh! Of course, the weekend I have to fly home to Milwaukee to visit for my Great-Aunt's 90th birthday! sigh. maybe next time. Sarah Darrel & Deanna wrote: > > Ron- The Posse is formulating another go for 22-24 October (or a portion > thereof). Details are sketchy at the moment, but wanted to give a heads up > for planning purposes. > This ride started as the scouting ride for a Posse run by just a few of us > but is turning into few more than a few to Kennedy Meadows off of 395. I > need not say you're invited. > Darrel > (the terrain in KM probably won't be suitable to the Boxster ;>) > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 14:17:51 -0700 From: "Hirofumi A. Watanabe" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 shortage for 2000 Gino Pokluda writes: snip > A large order for KLR650's was placed somewhere > in the US and Kaw is having a hard time meeting > demand right now. I would suspect that our friend Redondo Ron is buying them up to corner the market in anticipation of the long awaited KLR replacement, the all new KLE. If this seems too far fetched for you, just remember that the KLR250 was recently replaced with the Super Sherpa. Ron made a killing selling the old model back to the Mother land. I'll be watching this very closely. Hiro Watanabe A10 "Thunderbolt" Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:11:32 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 shortage for 2000 > I would suspect that our friend Redondo Ron is buying > them up to corner the market in anticipation of the > long awaited KLR replacement, the all new KLE. > > If this seems too far fetched for you, just remember > that the KLR250 was recently replaced with the Super > Sherpa. Ron made a killing selling the old model back > to the Mother land. I'll be watching this very closely. > > Hiro Watanabe A10 "Thunderbolt" Ahh my good man...nice to see you back. Since you've been gone many changes have occurred. Gino Pokluda needed a rest for family and fun and on a whim I decided to accept his offer to become editor of DSN. Wanting to protect myself from Gino's experience of burn-out (do you have a word for that in Japanese?) I asked our friend Redondo to work with me. Now I'm wondering what I've let myself in for. As you know, I've never met Ron and except for you, I've never met anyone who claims that he has. So reclusive and secretive he is. When I told my best friend that I went into business with a man I've never met and he goes by the pseudonym of "Cloudhidden whereabouts unknown," he looked at me with what can best be described as...well... pity....Am I in for a long ride? Thank you as always. You swim in clarity. Respectfully, Kurt Simpson (BTW, Ron is also cornering the market on used Corbin seats for the KLR) Salt Lake City, Utah USA Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:16:32 PDT From: "cosmo bojinski" Subject: (klr650) NKLR group of klrs Arne, did you say Borgasm? Then a group of KLRs could be Multiple Borgasms, oh I'm gonna regret hitting send.....cosmo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #936 ****************************