From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #970 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, October 4 1999 Volume 02 : Number 970 (klr650) Trapped fuel (klr650) Mikuni carb (klr650) NKLR: MT500 Re: (klr650) Trapped fuel Re: (klr650) NKLR winter storage Re: (klr650) RE: NKLR Handlebar options Re: (klr650) Filter questions Re: (klr650) NKLR winter storage (klr650) Brake Pads (klr650) Top case Re: (klr650) NKLR: Tire question RE: (klr650) NKLR winter storage RE: (klr650) Top case ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:04:35 EDT From: Oilie@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Trapped fuel Does anyone know for sure just exactly how much unuseable fuel gets trapped on the right-hand side of the KLR's gas tank? - -Jim Henry: Co-Honcho, Republic of Texas Biker Rally - -Travis County Expo Center in Austin, 9-11 June 2000 - -oilie@aol.com - -(972) 386-7619 vox/fax - -(972) 866-8363 info line/fax modem Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:03:42 -0400 From: "Cassell, Jonathan Z" Subject: (klr650) Mikuni carb Hello, Listers, Who out there has a Mikuni (White Bros) carb installed? My bike came with one, and I have never ridden with the stock carb. I just got a tuning guide, but would like to hear the experience of the experienced before I get in and play. What do you think of the carb? Did it actually improve performance? Does your bike run rougher (or smoother)? (I KNOW it zapped your gas mileage!) What's the best I can expect from this carb? Should I put the stock back on? Thanks! -Spike Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:13:46 EDT From: Oilie@aol.com Subject: (klr650) NKLR: MT500 Here's a little more follow-up on the Harley "Armstrong" MT 500: H-D contracted to make a certain number of these DP military bikes for the UK army, and they are no longer in production. (The contract was apparently completed along about last year.) But Harley's contract allowed them to build a few (circa 500) extra bikes for sale to the general public. The price on the bike that my friend saw a few months ago in a Mississippi dealership was $8500. Like everything else in a Harley shop, it was obviously overpriced by about 100 percent, but the MT 500 would make a great collector's piece. - -Jim Henry: Co-Honcho, Republic of Texas Biker Rally - -Travis County Expo Center in Austin, 9-11 June 2000 - -oilie@aol.com - -(972) 386-7619 vox/fax - -(972) 866-8363 info line/fax modem Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:14:38 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Trapped fuel Dr. Moreau does...if I recall it is about 26 miles worth...check in the archvives under Skip and Fuel Mods... Kurt - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 7:04 AM Subject: (klr650) Trapped fuel Does anyone know for sure just exactly how much unuseable fuel gets trapped on the right-hand side of the KLR's gas tank? - -Jim Henry: Co-Honcho, Republic of Texas Biker Rally - -Travis County Expo Center in Austin, 9-11 June 2000 - -oilie@aol.com - -(972) 386-7619 vox/fax - -(972) 866-8363 info line/fax modem Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:44:08 -0400 From: "Steamroller" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR winter storage Winter Storage??? What's that??? heh heh heh Seriously, this is what I do to long term store stuff I don't use. 1- Run the tank till dry. 1a- close petcock, run carb. till dry. 2- remove tank and remove all residue (you want a dry tank) 3- Reinstall tank, but you don't have to rebolt, just lay it in place and fill with only a 1/2 gallon or so of FRESH, quality fuel mixed fuel stabilizer to correct proportion. 4- Run engine for about 10 to 15 mins. 5- Turn petcock off again, run carbs dry. Then and don't overlook this part, drain out you carbs. There is a small screw to open and drain the bowl completely. Evaporated gas and the resulting varnish will screw up a carb for sure. All this will insure no future problems from gas going bad. Then, wash the bike, completely, let dry. Change your oil. Check your antifreeze for correct cold protection. You can buy them from Prestone at any auto parts retailer. They tell you via floating balls ( OK, stop with the crude jokes )the level of freeze protection you have. Lube all control cables. Super clean and lube the chain, use WD40 for this. Finally when your absolutely sure that the motor is cold and not to be started again, remove the spark plug and squirt a shot of WD40 into the cylinder, replace plug. You'll have to remove the tank again, that's why I say to just lay it on. When you're done with this phase, permanantly reinstall the tank and fill with FRESH fuel and treatment. Now would be a good time to apply some dielectric grease to as many electrical connections as you can, prevents corrosion, especially the spark plug. Place a plastic baggie over your intake and exhaust, to keep critters at bay. I've had nests in every vehicle I ever stored. If you have a concrete floor, place pieces of plywood under tires, concrete WILL rot tires over time. Every once in a while, if you can, rotate the tires a bit to prevent flatspots. Remove the battery and fill, if needed, to the proper level with DISTILLED WATER and place somewhere warm, like your basement. Place it on several layers of cardboard and charge, preferably with a maintanence or "trickle" charger every 3 to 4 weeks. Reduce the air pressure in the tires to about 15 lbs. Cover it with a cloth bedsheet or a bike cover if you have. Then and only then, when all done, have a beer to enjoy the fact that come Spring time, after preparation she'll most probably start right up, as if she never missed a beat. Go inside and play with your better half all winter long. If interested, I'll tell ya' how to wake her up in the Spring. Good luck, NY Pete. - -----Original Message----- From: Allan Phipps To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 11:01 PM Subject: (klr650) NKLR winter storage >Time to put my KLR to bed for the winter. I'll be storing it in my >unheated garage for the winter. It gets very cold here in the winter so >I'm going to put in some new antifreeze so it will be ok down to -40 C. I >also have some fuel stabilizer. I'll take out the battery and I may also >drain the carb. Anything else I can do to make sure the bike will be ready >to go when the snow melts?? Thanks in advance for the advice. > >Al >A10 > > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net >for info. > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 06:55:43 -0700 From: Eric & Jill Dietiker Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: NKLR Handlebar options I put some Renthal low bars on my KLR. These bars are a couple of inches narrower than the stock bars. Afterwards the bike felt more responsive, as though it took less movement to accomplish more turning. This must be because I don't have to move the grips as far through space to make a turn. I think the KLR is light enough that the extra leverage afforded by the wider stock bars is unneeded on the street. So I disagree with the guy at the shop - on the street, on the KLR, narrower and lower bars are better. Eric. - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Durham To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, September 26, 1999 2:49 PM Subject: (klr650) RE: NKLR Handlebar options >I went to the local shop the other day and sat on the XR650L and I >noticed the handlebars were a bit narrower than the KLR's. I guess you >don't have to worry about as many tree limbs this way. The guy at the >shop said that wider handle bars were a lot nicer to have on the road... >something about making it easier to handle the twisties. >Hope this helps some-MikeD > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to Editor@dualsport.org for info. > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:52:39 -0400 From: "R. Kaub" Subject: Re: (klr650) Filter questions At 09:36 PM 10/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >Wait a minute, wait a minute... Time-out here... <<<<>>>> Hi Juan: I've been reading about this filter pipe thing. I don't know how the all metal, reusable filter mounts up so the following is for factory style paper filters. If you have indeed not been using the metal pipe assembly by sliding it into the grommets in the center of the filter, you are not filtering any oil in the engine. Without the pipe in place to direct the oil into the center of the filter, the oil is just pumped into the filter chamber and right back out to the engine without going through the filter. You need the pipe for the paper filters to work. Thanks. Bob Kaub Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:57:49 +0100 (BST) From: Yusseri Yusoff Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR winter storage On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Steamroller wrote: > [..] > > Place a plastic baggie over your intake and exhaust, to keep critters at > bay. I've had nests in every vehicle I ever stored. And I'm sure that Gino would say this later but I'd say it for him first - -- cover the airbox too and all paths to it. Might get rats in there... Yus - -- Yusseri Yusoff / y.yusoff@ee.surrey.ac.uk http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/showstaff?Yusoff Centre for Vision, Speech and Signal Processing University of Surrey Guildford GU2 5XH Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:21:03 -0400 From: "R. Kaub" Subject: (klr650) Brake Pads While changing my front tire Saturday, I noticed that the front brake pads were worn about 50% at 7,300 miles. As a winter project, I'll probably put on new pads for next season. What are the pads of choice these days? Used to be "Dunlopad Sxx" or something like that. The stock brake rotor looks just fine so I'm not gonna mess with that. Thanks. Bob Kaub Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:05:59 -0700 From: "R Bizarro" Subject: (klr650) Top case This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF0E47.ACCDD260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Fellow listers. =20 I have a question about top cases. Does anyone = out there have a Givi 36L top case? I do a lot of off-roading and was just wondering if it will be to big, = and will it take the punishment? I do enjoy the great interaction we have as a KLR group! Everyone keep = up the good work! 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- ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF0E47.ACCDD260-- Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:08:02 -0500 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Y._Gonz=E1lez?=" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR: Tire question > Are the knobbier (i.e., more dirt oriented) tires better or worse than the > less knobby tires on wet pavement? Or does it make any significant > difference? > > -Jim Henry: Co-Honcho, Republic of Texas Biker Rally In my experience, knobby tires are generally much worse for traction in either dry or wet conditions on the pavement. There's simply less rubber on the road with a knobby than you would have with a street tire, not to mention the street tires probably have softer grippier compound. Carlos Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:24:01 -0600 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR winter storage There's one thing I question in all the sensible advice given so far and that's running the bike at idle. The worst thing you can do for your ride is to store it with incompletely burned gases in the engine & exhaust. I believe one should run a bike hard for several miles and get the engine good and hot before shutting it off for any extended period. According to my reading idling is ruff on an engine and results in incomplete combustion. Perhaps with a modern bike that has EFI and EEM that's not the case but our klr's have carbs and straight forward ignition. Bogdan 4- Run engine for about 10 to 15 mins. 5- Turn petcock off again, run carbs dry. Then and don't overlook this part, drain out you carbs. There is a small screw to open and drain the bowl completely. Evaporated gas and the resulting varnish will screw up a carb for sure. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:33:17 -0600 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) Top case I've done a lot of riding with Givi 36L saddle bags on rough roads. They've endured countless bumps and many falls. Appearance wise they're a little ragged but they still don't leak water and work fine. Make sure you balance rear loads with weight in your tank bag and/or tank panniers; one lister has installed a tool box on his bash plate. Bogdan Hello Fellow listers. I have a question about top cases. Does anyone out there have a Givi 36L top case? I do a lot of off-roading and was just wondering if it will be to big, and will it take the punishment? I do enjoy the great interaction we have as a KLR group! Everyone keep up the good work! Just noticed everyone is geting ready to park their KLR for the winter, this is always the hardest time of the year for me. Cheers. Rick. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #970 ****************************