From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #996 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, October 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 996 Re: (klr650) Removing wheels Re: (klr650) New Sprockets - Performance (klr650) klr Chat Re: (klr650) Removing wheels Re: (klr650) All's well (for now) (klr650) looking at a 89' KLR, any suggestions? Re: (klr650) Removing wheels Re: (klr650) Wet Road Performance. Re: (klr650) All's well (for now) Re: (klr650) klr Chat RE: (klr650) All's well (for now) (klr650) Galfer brakes for KLR Re: (klr650) steel-braided lines: generi Re: (klr650) Dreaming Big ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:40:07 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Removing wheels > Does anyone have any good ideas for removing the wheels on my KLR? I > tried to get my KLR up on top of a plastic pail but with only my wife to > help, I got nowhere fast. I'm thinking of the jack in my car, but I haven't > tried it yet. A centrestand would help, but it won't do my any good since I > need to swap my tires within the next few days. > You can put your bike up on a crate by your self with the right technique. You put down the side stand, with a small piece of 2x4 or a brick under it, with the crate positioned on the right hand side of the bike. Stand on the left hand side and pull the bike towards you up on the side stand. Once you get it up high enough, balance the bike against your legs and reach over and pull the crate under the bike, then slowly tilt the bike back over the crate and voila! Sometimes I find it necessary to use a piece of 2x4 on top of the milk crate to get the bike off of both wheels. I also use the budget swingarm stands with the milk crate. Here, check these two links to see what I'm talking about: http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdirt/trailrider/lift.html http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page26.html This should do it for you. Works for me. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:45:19 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) New Sprockets - Performance > Excuse me - I was working late at night - I am not infalable. > > Two people have pointed out my mistake. NOW > can any of you gear heads answer my question? > > Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: > > > > 1) Is this a normal KLR reaction to the higher gearing? > > > > > You didn't gear it higher, you geared it lower! > > > > Jeff OK, to answer your question, I don't think that it is normal, no. By gearing it lower, you have gained in applied torque to the rear wheel for taking off, so it should take off easier, and shouldn't stall or bog. This is something you might experience if you had geared higher, not lower. It should run just like it did before you changed the sprockets, only like you're running in a lower gear. What are your rpms at when you take off from a dead stop? And what is your idle speed set at? Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:40:48 -0400 From: "Tom McKenzie" Subject: (klr650) klr Chat I hope that we don't forget what this newsgroup is all about since we have the opportunity to "chat". I have watched other newsgroups turn into something completely different from whence they came when the chat formula is added. Smart ass talk, smut dogs, and speed typing do not make an interesting time. Could a chat be a plus to we KLRr's? You bet. Just remember to keep on the level of our supremo KLR group and it can only be a welcome addition. As to making it a site for everyone, that probably will take the interest out of the chat for me. I've tried all the rest, and now I ride the best. I personally would prefer to keep the chat directed to our brand so that we don't get the brethren from Milwaukee trying to sell us stick on tattoo's. But the majority prevails. Thanks to everyone for the way they participate in our KLR group. I really appreciate that I can leave it up on my screen when my grandchildren come to the house, and there isn't anything that I have to be ashamed of. Ride On Tom McKenzie DebtDoctor@home.com A13 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:56:34 -0700 From: "DobeMan" Subject: Re: (klr650) Removing wheels Friggin' beautiful Jeff my man!!! I didn't even think of putting anything under the side stand to lever the bike up. I just tried and it worked like a charm. Unfortunately the large plastic pickle container I was using wasn't up to the task of holding all that weight and it slowly collapsed under my bike. Now I know what to do. Thanks again, the links did the trick! TTYL Karl > swingarm stands with the milk crate. Here, check these two links to see > what I'm talking about: > > http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdirt/trailrider/lift.html > > http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page26.html > > This should do it for you. Works for me. > > Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:56:35 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) All's well (for now) Then with them apart you can > remove your chain unbroken and more important install a chain with a riveted > link. That's much better !! There is nothing wrong with a master link. As long as it is installed properly with the safety clip in the right direction and fully seated, and you check the safety clip each time you lube the chain. So much easier to work with if you wand to change the front sprocket, and so much easier to take the chain off for cleaning. > What's the consensus on a gasket sealant for the > valve cover seam? I didn't use any the last time > I checked my valves and didn't have any problems. > The gasket still looks pretty good even now, but > I would like to hear some opinions on the matter > (don't forget to mention specific brands along > with some good instructions- remember, it's me > we're talking about...). Thanks... > The manual calls for a very light coat of liquid silicon sealant on the underside of the gasket on the left hand side, where the two half moon shapes are on the gasket. If the gasket is going to leak, this is where it will do it from, and the dealer told me specifically to do it, as he's seen them leak from there before. He also said to make sure it was a VERY light coat, so no excess gets in the motor. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:57:22 EDT From: Nandaholz@aol.com Subject: (klr650) looking at a 89' KLR, any suggestions? Hi, my name is Nanda and I am new to the list. I found and 89 KLR with 15k miles which sounds like it is in decent shape, and the guys is asking $1895 for it. Offered him $1400 and waiting for his response. Are the 89-99' KLR's virtually the same except for plastic colors? Where the any significant changes that would make it worthwhile buying a later model? Any particular things I should look out for on any 89' with this kind of miles, which I would consider low. Any suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. - -Nanda Walnut Creek, CA Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:00:23 EDT From: ILIKEVW4ME@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Removing wheels In a message dated 10/11/99 2:46:06 PM Central Daylight Time, dobeman@sprint.ca writes: > Does anyone have any good ideas for removing the wheels on my KLR? I > tried to get my KLR up on top of a plastic pail but with only my wife to > help, I got nowhere fast. I'm thinking of the jack in my car, but I haven't > tried it yet. A centrestand would help, but it won't do my any good since I > need to swap my tires within the next few days. > > Thanks for any tips! > Karl Have you tried suspending the bike with a cargo strap I did this to change the tires and also fork seals on my CBR1000F Kurt Thomas Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:19:18 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Wet Road Performance. > Just a notion because I don't have much experience with real knobbies: When > I was going through some mud/clay stuff down in Mexico I was relieved to see > that there wasn't much gook building up under my low Acerbis fender. I > postulated that the Gripsters may be superior than more aggressive tires > when the surface is too gooey to grab on to anyway. A knobby would just have > collected more mud. Bogdan > > That is like saying that a M/S rated truck tire (M/S = Mud and Snow) would be no better than an all season radial in mud and snow because it would just collect mud in the treads. Well, ain't so! I found out that the difference between a Goodyear Wrangler all season and the BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A is like night and day off road in the mud and sand. If you are spinning your rear tire in the mud with a knobby, it is flinging the mud between the knobs off, and grabbing some more as it goes around again. I have ridden on both 50/50 tires, and pure dirt knobs, and the knobs are hands down superior in the mud. Jeff Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:18:58 EDT From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) All's well (for now) In a message dated 10/11/99 1:57:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jlwalk@prodigy.net writes: << There is nothing wrong with a master link. As long as it is installed properly with the safety clip in the right direction and fully seated, and you check the safety clip each time you lube the chain. >> A buddy taught me to put a small dab of silicone on the master link safety clip, its still there and holding after 13k miles. Kurt Grife Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:23:16 -0400 From: Chris Subject: Re: (klr650) klr Chat Ohhh puke, bet he has a registered parking space at the local cigar bar for his KLR. Well I guess the p.c. ride too....freedoms frighten them so. On Mon, Oct 11, 1999 at 04:40:48PM -0400, Tom McKenzie wrote: > I hope that we don't forget what this newsgroup is all about since we > have the opportunity to "chat". I have watched other newsgroups turn > into something completely different from whence they came when the chat > formula is added. Smart ass talk, smut dogs, and speed typing do not > make an interesting time. Could a chat be a plus to we KLRr's? You bet. > Just remember to keep on the level of our supremo KLR group and it can > only be a welcome addition. As to making it a site for everyone, that > probably will take the interest out of the chat for me. I've tried all > the rest, and now I ride the best. I personally would prefer to keep the > chat directed to our brand so that we don't get the brethren from > Milwaukee trying to sell us stick on tattoo's. But the majority > prevails. > > Thanks to everyone for the way they participate in our KLR group. I > really appreciate that I can leave it up on my screen when my > grandchildren come to the house, and there isn't anything that I have to > be ashamed of. > > Ride On > > Tom McKenzie > DebtDoctor@home.com > A13 > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net > for info. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:24:08 -0600 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) All's well (for now) Every O-ring chain I'm aware of comes with a press fit master link that needs a chain breaker to get it off. It isn't "so much easier" to do the maintenance you mentioned; in fact there's no advantage. Also things can go wrong when pressing the link. One lister tore up his bike when the link took a dump. In my case I kept loosing clips. Fred thought I might have pressed the plate a bit too far in, very easy to do. It's no harder to install a rivet link and it doesn't take any longer. Install it then forget about it. Bogdan There is nothing wrong with a master link. As long as it is installed properly with the safety clip in the right direction and fully seated, and you check the safety clip each time you lube the chain. So much easier to work with if you wand to change the front sprocket, and so much easier to take the chain off for cleaning. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Subject: (klr650) Galfer brakes for KLR http://www.silcom.com/~galfer/oversized.html This is where bigger IS better... GALFER has now BIG ROTOR kits available for BMW R100GS and R1100GS, Kawasaki KLR650s and Honda XL600V Transalps , KLX 's F 650BMW"S , XR650....any many more . All kits include a 320mm full floating disc,an alluminum caliper adapter, a set of brake pads ( Galfer Race Compound 1532 green) and steel braided line . Discs and adapters are available separately. - ------------- I have used Galfer brake lines in the past, but has anyone tried their rotor for the KLR? Sounds impressive. It'd probably stop better than my ZX10 :-) Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:32:00 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino" Subject: Re: (klr650) steel-braided lines: generi >>Hey Scott, please do not choose the brakes for an area to save money. I would like your visits here to continue. The money is well worth it, knowing that the brake lines are designed just for the klr.<< I use Russel build to fit lines on my XV920 and see nothing wrong with them. You have to compromise a bit on length, but besides that, I have had not problems with them for over a year now and they improved braking feel tremendously and give better stopping power than my old lines. Gino Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:44:40 EDT From: TLrydr@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Dreaming Big Someone is keeping track of my dreams, I would settle for 75- 100 MPG, And speaking of dreams anyone seen the new RC 51, Looks like sex to me. 1999 Gl 1500 SE 1990 ZX 1100 1997 TL 1000 2000 KLX 650 cool date 1990 EX 500 1989 CRX (cc ?) 1998 6H/P craftsman Lawnmower 1989 Blacken decker can opener, Hanging on kitchen cabnet. Mike In a message dated 10/10/99 6:07:22 PM EST, elcid24@gte.net writes: << You forgot the 6 speed!! Make that 400 mpg... ******************************** Hot air will make the bike run richer and cool air will make it run leaner, The perfect set up would be too jet for the weather, Or just go to fuel injection, COOL 2001 KLR 850cc single fuel injection released in the USA this year, With a dry weight of 310 lbs and BHP reading at the dyno 65 HP. With the FI set up the single will be getting over 60 mpg with its 6.5 gallon tank which would put its range at about 390 miles, OOPS Sorry i was just day dreamming again. MIKE >> Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #996 ****************************