From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Schneider TM Date: 01 Feb 1999 14:40:14 +0100 There is an act called Schneider TM that make a kind of electronic music that has been called Neo Kraut Electronic. It exists a band called Funk Machine which pronunciation is pretty close to Man Machine. There is a song entitled "Robosex" by Mas2008 that has got clear influences of Pocket Calculator. Craft and Subkrauts are record labels with names directly inspired by Kraftwerk. According to some music critics, in fact Kraftwerk was the first ones that made electro genre, on allowed their machines danced at funk rhythm. The Gigolo label (directed by DJ Hell) released several projects of electro genre which are inspired by Kraftwerk; Anthony Shakir "Systematic Advancing" 12", Christopher Just "I'm A Disco Dancer" 12", David Carreta "The Rocket Sardine" 12", Miss Kittin & The Hacker "Champagne" 12". "Break It Down Octave One Instru-edit" is a remix by Octave One which uses a sample of the breath of "Tour de France". And the song "Electro/Techno" and its remixes "Microknox Remix", "DJ Di'jital Remix" and "Cirkit Jack Remix" have a vocal sample of "Techno Pop" by KW. "I Need To Freak DJ Dijital Remix" has a sample of "It's More Fun To Compute". These songs are included in the compilation of remixed tracks from the Aux 88 2LP/CD "Is It Man Or Machine?" (Direct Beat, 1997), "Reprogramming The Machine" (Direct Beat DBCD-3, 1998) album. Lawrence Burden and Tommy Hamilton, Aux 88, are a superfans of Kraftwerk. When Kraftwerk were at Sonar festival (Barcelona, June 1998) Florian was seen the concert of Aux 88. Direct Beat is a sublabel of Submerge: directbeat@submerge.com; Web: http://www.submerge.com/directbeat DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) kw stuff Date: 02 Feb 1999 03:56:28 +0000 ok, i don't have any KW sheet music, i have some MIDI files, but i don't know how to print them. i want to make Digital Performer files of KW songs. (for info on digital performer goto www.motu.com). to do that i need to either play the songs myself into the computer on any MIDI instrument (which opens possibility of human error, and we don't want that), or find a way to convert MIDI files to Digital Performer files. i know it is possible, but i don't know how. if some one out there has the knowledge i lack, please help me. also, people often mention "OBI's" when talking about Japanese releases, what are "OBI's"? and what are official KW bootlegs (actual titles would help) and what are not official (if there are titles, please) i've got a few, but decided that i need to get them all and there is no better time than now. also, Bill Dobiesz, you seem to be the resident Silver Apples expert, can you please tell me how many releases Silver Apples have (titles) gotta get those too. sorry if it's off topic, but i have to complete my collection of music (Kraftwerk, Tomita, Jarre, Carlos, YMO, Silver Apples, Tangerine Dream, Moog fascination (Gershon Kingsley), early electronic experimental/musique concrete (Subotnick, etc.), noise/industrial/ambient/space. i'm sure you all had to do the same, or still are collecting. thanks all in advance for your answers, lenny g and i promice to share my product of Digitlal Performer with all (and don't start bitching about remixing and remixers, i am not and neither is Performer, It is a MIDI/Digital Audio Sequencer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: (kw) Robert Moog Date: 02 Feb 1999 07:37:05 -0700 Robert Moog was on the TV Guide Awards last night playing the theremin. It was during the introduction of the sci-fi awards. DJFRANKX http://members.tripod.com/~DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff Watson" Subject: Re: (kw) Schneider TM Date: 02 Feb 1999 15:10:28 -0000 There is a type of river vessel called a raft, which although it contains no electronics as far as I know must clearly be influenced by Kraftwerk. Also there used to be (still is ?) a type of processed cheese available in England called Kraft. The shape of the packaging is very similar to Wolfgang's first drum machine, though to the best of my knowledge it does not come with knitting needles. These need to be purchased seperately. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) DM - KW Date: 02 Feb 1999 05:44:11 PST Dear eugene, No, I=B4m sure that Depeche Mode NEVER heared Kraftwerk. They really don=B4= t=20 sound like the four man-machine from Dusseldorf... They travel in=20 different and creative road... And I=B4m sure a lot of bands never heared KW before, and play a new,=20 instigant king of music, knew now like eletronica. I can remember some of them at the moment: New Order (I think Ian Curtir=20 really hate KW); Gary Numan (his red suit has nothing in common with KW=20 81 tour suits... are they really red? I just have black and white pics=20 from 81 - or maybe KW is inspired in Mr. Numan clothes?); I think=20 Erasure never put a KW LP in their pickups; it=B4s clear that 808 State=20 don=B4t like KW; and including the new bands like Orbital (oh, their=20 soundscapes were trully taken from some 19th century classical=20 composer); Daft Punk don=B4t like KW (how a Fench group could like a=20 german band?)... I could list many many bands that are not influenced by KW... well, I=20 think there=B4s just one band influenced by KW. It=B4s a band from Tahiti= =20 called Amigos... they play a kind of Rhumba and sounds exactly equal=20 Europe Endless!! hehehe... Sorry eugene, but I could not read your message and not play with you... :-) Just a commet: Hey guy, all I wrote above is really a joke, uh? I=B4m telling this=20 because I don=B4t want to receive about 429 messages telling: OH, but it=B4= s=20 clear that New Order is influenced by kw, and so on... and I like many=20 of these bands (well, except Erasure) so please read all I wrote before=20 in a opposite way, OK? peace nicolau >>>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:25:26 +0200 Yesterday, listening the 'Hall of Mirrors', I realised that it sounds=20 very DM-like (if left out vocals). Also I mentioned that structure of the 'Laying on the Pipeline' theme=20 (from DM's album 'Construction Time Again') is quite similar to structure of=20 'Hall of Mirrors'.Is it just a coincedence, or was DM Kraftwerk=20 influenced?Regards, Eugene<<< ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mdisante@sogei.it Subject: (kw) Re: DM - KW & so on ... Date: 02 Feb 1999 17:20:24 +0100 Nicolau Centola wrote ... I like many of these bands (well, except Erasure) Hey guys, What's the Matter with Erasure ? I can't criticize tastes that are different from mine, of course, but, most of the time, my impression is that DM and Techno/Music fans in general got some kind of <> vs. Vince Clarke just because he gave up D. M. in 1981. Considering the things done by DM after Violator, i should say that Vince did the right thing (!!!) but i love DM even if i don't like their last productions. Anyway, i find that Erasure's analogue sounds can be considered much more <> than many other techno/pop stuffs. Try to <> ... And what about Yazoo & Assembly ? Best Regards Marcello # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) MP3 files. Date: 02 Feb 1999 15:52:17 -0200 Does anybody know about some site that has MP3 files of the albums Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2 ? -- Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephenv@sirius.com (stephen vesecky) Subject: Re: (kw) Computerwelt Date: 02 Feb 1999 11:24:05 -0700 for me, what makes kraftwerk important artists is that they sacrificed everything to the concept, the images that they were trying to project into the brain of the listener, which is something that is not normally associated with pop music. my analysis of the man machine album cover goes like this: in fascism, everyone must bow down to the needs of the state. in kraftwerk, the members of the group bow down to the CONCEPT. and then, in computerworld, they are becoming one with the concept. by the way, the last verse of computerwelt has always fascinated me, i feel like it gives a lot more depth to the song. what is a 'telespiel'? is the meaning: "computers lead us, to the future, the new reality" ? maybe that's just what i want the lyrics to mean. also, i've been listening to some afrika bambaata recently, and i have to say i think it's touching, the ways in which he was influenced by them. not only the electronic beats and so on, but the ideas, that a song can be a conceptual whole, in a different way than the beatles or traditional rock songwriters thought of it. what does everyone else think of this? to me, "looking for the perfect beat" seems very kraftwerkian, but at the same time, it could never have come from the kling-klang studio. anyway, that's what i think. stephen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ricardo Cassolatto" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: DM - KW & so on ... Date: 02 Feb 1999 08:45:40 PST Sorry, but I agree with Nicolau, DM, Gary Numan, The Human League, and=20 others is very , but very superior in the therms of contruction and use=20 of analog technology to produce their music, and sorry about after=20 Violator works, I agree with you, but DM continues make 1 or 2 very good=20 sound, instead of Erasure last works , I can=B4t hear less than half=20 !!!!!!! Sorry this is the tru, and logic Erasure are greatly influenced=20 by KW , but can=B4t express a continuos evolution on music construction,=20 instead of DM , chage their self style, but with technology, and today=20 the mixed digital and analog !!!1 Thanks for all !!!!!! See you soon !!!! ******************************************* ** SINTETIK - The sintetik way of life ! ** ** ** =20 ** sintetik@hotmail.com ** ** **=20 ******************************************* To be a tracker-> www.united-trackers.org =20 www.traxinspace.com =20 All you need----> www.maz-sound.com --< TRACK THE WORLD, YOU CAN DO THIS > -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas W." Subject: Re: (kw) Computerwelt Date: 02 Feb 1999 20:32:47 +0100 >my analysis of the man machine album cover goes like this: in fascism, >everyone must bow down to the needs of the state. in kraftwerk, the members >of the group bow down to the CONCEPT. > ... well, to me Man- Machine doesn't have any political background, I think it is simply the "mechanical" aspect of Russian art and design of the 20's and 30's that perfectly fits to the sound of the Man- Machine album. >by the way, the last verse of computerwelt has always fascinated me, i feel >like it gives a lot more depth to the song. what is a 'telespiel'? is the >meaning: "computers lead us, to the future, the new reality" ? maybe >that's just what i want the lyrics to mean. > A "Telespiel" is a game console that you connect to your TV set. Thomas. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Ivaschenko Subject: Re: (kw) Computerwelt Date: 02 Feb 1999 22:39:05 +0300 Thomas W. wrote: > > ... well, to me Man- Machine doesn't have any political background, I think > it is simply the "mechanical" aspect of Russian art and design of the 20's > and 30's that perfectly fits to the sound of the Man- Machine album. I fully agree with you. The graphics design seen in Man Machine cover/clips follows the concepts of the russian "mass-art" quite closely, and somewhere I read that KW liked the poems made by russian writer Mayakovski. Indeed, when I listen to their music, the concept is basicly the same as the concept Mayakovski used for his poems. This is pretty amazing, concerting that poetry & music are very different! Mayakovski used the following description of his concept (well, not exactly.., I'm constructing from my memory) - "every word in my poems should be like a nail, you can't get it out, it stays there very hard". KW music seems the same - every element, every sound in it is very important... -- Best Regards Vladimir Ivaschenko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) TDF Date: 02 Feb 1999 17:09:20 +0000 hi everybody, has anyone heard this: a swedish band called DayBehavior has a CD single called hello, where they cover Tour De France + other two non-Kw songs. does anyone have this single, how does it sound, is it good? i had their album before and i don't remember TDF being on the album so it must only be available on the single. lenny g look at my lame ass web page: http://members.tripod.com/~to_the_moon/ subscribe to my lame ass discussion group: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/to_the_moon it sucks ass. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damir hlobik Subject: (kw) xxx Date: 03 Feb 1999 08:36:58 +0200 hi, is there anybody who can make cd-r of "computers in love" and "traffic jam on autobahn"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: damir hlobik Subject: (kw) xxx Date: 03 Feb 1999 12:35:21 +0200 hi, is there anybody who can make cd-r of "computers in love" and "traffic jam on autobahn"? thank you. damir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk records/CDs Date: 03 Feb 1999 08:16:30 -0600 For those of you seeking the obscure Kraftwerk single or other CD, = EBAY.COM has a few samples listed in their Music section. Just go to = www.ebay.com and search for Kraftwerk. Das Sputnik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 03 Feb 1999 15:27:52 +0100 Some time ago I wrote to this list: >>There is a PC game called Carmageddon which is a very intense game consisting of driving on various races where you have to run over the pedestrians you meet. Well, there's an opponent driver called Stig O'Sore who drives a car with the name Volkswerker.<< Another opponent driver, Heinz Faust, drives the 'Kingwerk' car. "The Essential Collection Synthesizer 2000" (Arcade) double CD includes a cover version of Trans-Europe Express produced and programmed by Ed Starink. A kind of club placed in CCCB (Center of Contemporary Culture of Barcelona, Spain) is called Electric Cafe. And in Madrid there is a record shop called Elektric Music. In some of the new promotional photos of Plastikman (aka Richie Hawtin) he looks like the Kraftwerk's robots-mannequins. "We Want The Airwaves vol. 1" is the title of a compilation CD/LP published last month by Munster Records. The artwork of the 12" "Skyline" (Minifunk - So Dens) by Mark Ambrose shows some images taken from the film Metropolis. There is a band called Stock Hausen & Walkman that I presume they have given themselves that name as an homage to Stockhausen or maybe as a gibe to Stock, Aitken and Waterman, the productors of Take That, Sean Maguire, Boyzone, and others. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smady Menko Subject: Re: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 03 Feb 1999 07:00:23 -0800 (PST) ---Der Automat wrote: > Actually he wrote a lot of stuff.... I would just like to add.... > On the Beastie Boys debute album they have a track called "She's crafty" wich clearly has it's title influenced by KW. Unfortunately they mispelled the name, since it should be krafty and not crafty, but on the other hand, they are three white guys trying to do hip-hop so what did you expect. I can also back this up by stating that since hip-hop are the genre that is sampling KW more than anybody else, this must be true....... oh God.... please let it be...... Kindest regards _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) ESPERANTO-Remix Album Date: 03 Feb 1999 11:37:23 +0100 http://www.cdjapan.com/new/foreinal.html looks like there is gonna be a japanese release of a remix album by Elektric music!! Anybody have any info on it? 186.ELEKTRIC MUSIC 2/24/99 (Release) ESPERANTO-Remix(T.B.A) CDA : CHCL-4711 2500(Yen). Domo arigato! Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smady Menko Subject: Re: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 03 Feb 1999 07:00:23 -0800 (PST) ---Der Automat wrote: > Actually he wrote a lot of stuff.... I would just like to add.... > On the Beastie Boys debute album they have a track called "She's crafty" wich clearly has it's title influenced by KW. Unfortunately they mispelled the name, since it should be krafty and not crafty, but on the other hand, they are three white guys trying to do hip-hop so what did you expect. I can also back this up by stating that since hip-hop are the genre that is sampling KW more than anybody else, this must be true....... oh God.... please let it be...... Kindest regards _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 03 Feb 1999 16:10:43 +0100 While listening for the Nth time to TEE I suddenly realized that KW *could* have made that track truly *endless" by tweaking the vinyl master so that the last few seconds of the record would repeat endlessly. I own a vinyl LP whose last track has a stated "endless" running time (and indeed it is! you have to lift the pick-up manually). Can anyone remember this? Of course this trivia quiz is completely in-topic since that record is KW-influenced. :-) Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) ESPERANTO-Remix Album Date: 03 Feb 1999 11:37:23 +0100 http://www.cdjapan.com/new/foreinal.html looks like there is gonna be a japanese release of a remix album by Elektric music!! Anybody have any info on it? 186.ELEKTRIC MUSIC 2/24/99 (Release) ESPERANTO-Remix(T.B.A) CDA : CHCL-4711 2500(Yen). Domo arigato! Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jose Carlos Corchado Subject: Re: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 03 Feb 1999 18:12:22 +0100 (CET) > I own a vinyl LP whose last track has a stated "endless" running time (an= d > indeed it is! you have to lift the pick-up manually). > Can anyone remember this? Of course this trivia quiz is completely in-top= ic > since that record is KW-influenced. :-) I remember a dance tune (from the early 90=EFs, I think) that was basically some rythmic pattern and, on top of it, some kind of coil noise, like something bouncing, ("bing", "poing", ...). In a vinyl version the song never ended. However, the beat wasn't well synchronized to the 45 rpm of the turner, so you can hear it was repeating the same pattern after a click, it didn=EFt give the sensation of an endless record, it was just lik= e a scratched record. The name of the band was something about "Amsterdam" and I think the song was named "poing", "ping", "boing" or something similar. I think it was quite a success in Europe. And now another off-topic and unrelated question. Why the band with Vince Clark and Allison Moyet is sometimes called "Yaz" and sometimes called "Yazoo"? Thanks Jose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 03 Feb 1999 12:56:21 -0700 On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 06:12:22PM +0100, Jose Carlos Corchado wrote: > And now another off-topic and unrelated question. Why the band with Vince > Clark and Allison Moyet is sometimes called "Yaz" and sometimes called > "Yazoo"? The band's name is "Yazoo" but they're called "Yaz" in the states due to a conflict with the US-based Yazoo record label. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Tour De Kraft update Date: 03 Feb 1999 20:26:44 -0000 MP3 from the 1981 tour; Ohm Sweet Ohm- Paris Hall of Mirrors - Paris The Cover version is 'Pocket Calculator' done by Balanescu Quartet who return for a while due to popular demand. Mike. Kraftwerk Live 1981 and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger" Subject: (kw) re: Recent Issues Date: 02 Feb 1999 23:30:12 +0200 1. Artists claiming to be influenced by Kraftwerk include David Bowie, Eurythmics and OMD. 2. Could not agree with you more, Marcello. Erasure is brilliant. The same goes for Depeche Mode up to and including Violator. Synthesizers rule. 3. I think there might be a political influence on The Man-Machine. Karl Marx adapted the Hegelian dialectic theory of thesis and antithesis combining and producing a higher, better synthesis. According to Marx, first there was man, the thesis. Man lived his own life and was happy. Then came the antithesis, which was a time of both man and machine. In this era (the current era) man is unhappy, because the machines have become like gods, controlling our lives instead of man controlling them. The synthesis, the man-machine (hence the title), would be a future, happy era, when man and machine can live together without suffering. According to Marx, we could achieve this new stage by realising that we made the machines, and that we therefore control them, not the other way around. This realisation would be caused by a revolution. So Kraftwerk had at least come in contact with Marx' theories. Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: (kw) ACID music (o-t) Date: 03 Feb 1999 23:55:25 -0500 Any e-musicians in cyberspace that have tried this miracle? What do you think? Will it revolutionize music production as we know it? Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fischer, Hans-Peter" Subject: RE: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 04 Feb 1999 08:13:15 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Smady Menko [SMTP:h_rs@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 16:00 > To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (kw) Piledrive bonus >=20 > ---Der Automat wrote: > > Actually he wrote a lot of stuff.... I would just like to add.... > >=20 >=20 > On the Beastie Boys debute album they have a track called "She's > crafty" wich clearly has it's title influenced by KW. Unfortunately > they mispelled the name, since it should be krafty and not crafty, = but > on the other hand, they are three white guys trying to do hip-hop so > what did you expect. I can also back this up by stating that since > hip-hop are the genre that is sampling KW more than anybody else, = this > must be true....... oh God.... please let it be...... >=20 > Kindest regards >=20 >=20 This stuff is getting a bit shizophrene, isn=B4t it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: RE: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 04 Feb 1999 02:52:32 +0000 actually, did you notice how the artwork on the Beastie boys album where the three of them are lying in a sardine can and the top is being peeled back, they look just like the Kw robots when lying in their cases (coffins) KW is everywhere! lenny g At 08:13 AM 2/4/99 +0100, Fischer, Hans-Peter wrote: >> ---Der Automat wrote: >> > Actually he wrote a lot of stuff.... I would just like to add.... >> >=20 >>=20 >> On the Beastie Boys debute album they have a track called "She's >> crafty" wich clearly has it's title influenced by KW. Unfortunately >> they mispelled the name, since it should be krafty and not crafty, but >> on the other hand, they are three white guys trying to do hip-hop so >> what did you expect. I can also back this up by stating that since >> hip-hop are the genre that is sampling KW more than anybody else, this >> must be true....... oh God.... please let it be...... >>=20 >> Kindest regards >>=20 >>=20 >This stuff is getting a bit shizophrene, isn=B4t it? look at my lame ass web page: http://members.tripod.com/~to_the_moon/ subscribe to my lame ass discussion group: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/to_the_moon it sucks ass. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stefan Louwers Subject: RE: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 04 Feb 1999 10:39:05 +0100 > Jose Carlos Corchado wrote: >=20 >I remember a dance tune (from the early 90=EFs, I think) that was basically > >some rythmic pattern and, on top of it, some kind of coil noise, = like > >something bouncing, ("bing", "poing", ...). In a vinyl version the = song > >never ended. However, the beat wasn't well synchronized to the 45 = rpm > >of the turner, so you can hear it was repeating the same pattern = after a > >click, it didn=EFt give the sensation of an endless record, it was = just > like > >a scratched record. >=20 > >The name of the band was something about "Amsterdam" and I think the > >song was named "poing", "ping", "boing" or something similar. I = think it > >was quite a success in Europe. >=20 The tune was called 'Poing' and the band was called Rotterdam Termination Source. It was a big sucess in Holland and other European countries, one of the few commercial 'gabber' tunes. Stefan Louwers (Amsterdam-Nijmegen, Holland) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TVOD" Subject: Re: (kw) New on my MP3 page http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Date: 04 Feb 1999 12:49:22 +0100 Hi, I seem to have missed the 2 previous files Kraftwerk Taschenrechner (Live Dusseldorf 10/31/91) Kraftwerk Computerlove (Live Japan 9/7/81) ... Did anyone download these and if so, would you be willing to share these with me ? Please contact me. Thanks in advance. TVOD > >Hi, > >This week : > >Kraftwerk >Homecomputer from live Japan 81 >Musique Non-stop from Live Dusseldorf 91. > >Note: this is the last posting of the Dusseldorf 91 live. >I won't repost anything from this Live on my MP3 page, so please don't sk. > >Enjoy!!! > >Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Re: DM - KW & so on ... Date: 04 Feb 1999 13:15:01 +0100 mdisante@sogei.it wrote: >Anyway, i find that Erasure's analogue sounds can be >considered much more <> than many other techno/pop stuffs. Try = to ><> ... And what about Yazoo & Assembly ? In fact, Erasure (Vince Clarke & Andy Bell) pay tribute in their "Der Deutscher Mix" of the song "Blue Savannah", since it contains sounds from "Tour de France", "Home Computer" and "Trans-Europe Express". Besides, th= e gatefold from Vince Clarke & Paul Quinn's record "One Day" shows four mannequins in a row like "The Man Machine" sleeve. BTW, The Spanish band Automatics have released a CD-single "Ultras=F3nica" (El= efant Records ER-300) which includes a song homage to NEU! In Spain there is a store of mobile telephone called Phone-house. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Klingklang picture update Date: 04 Feb 1999 15:59:31 +0100 Hello List I've put up a new desktop-picture on my pages at: http://members=2Etripod=2Ecom/~KlingKlang/index=2Ehtml It's inspired by the new not yet released album, a warning: It's REALLY BIG= =20 (very unprofessional, but I think it's rather fun) not in bytes, but the si= ze=20 on your screen=2E (Memyself think it's the best of my pictures) Just click the link at the bottom called: GOTO NUMMWELTVERSCHMUTZUNG:=20 By the way, I've had problems with the video-section, broken links an reall= y=20 slow connections, so I let the Model stay up a little longer=2E Regards/Johan 2 =2E=2E=2Eand remember that E=3DMC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 04 Feb 1999 09:38:29 +0100 LD> I own a vinyl LP whose last track has a stated "endless" running time ... JCC> I remember a dance tune (from the early 90=EFs, I think) that was basically JCC> some rythmic pattern and, on top of it, some kind of coil noise, lik= e JCC> something bouncing, ("bing", "poing", ...). In a vinyl version the s= ong JCC> never ended. However, the beat wasn't well synchronized to the 45 r= pm of JCC> the turner, so you can hear it was repeating the same pattern after = a JCC> click, it didn=EFt give the sensation of an endless record, it was j= ust like JCC> a scratched record. I didn't know of that :-) The track I was writing about is from early '80s and the looping phrase i= s very well synchronized. It repeats endlessly the words "for a very long time...." so there's also= a meaning for the infinite length... Come on, how come no-one remembers it? Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ctzero@aol.com Subject: (kw) Iggy Pop and David Bowie Date: 04 Feb 1999 10:58:13 EST Hi everyone! Please help me settle a bet: My friend says when he saw KW live during the Computer World tour, they included the "Iggy Pop and David Bowie" line when they performed TEE. He also says they had pictures of Pop and Bowie on the screen during this line. But in all the bootlegs of the 1981 concerts I have heard, they don't include this line. I say my friend is pulling my leg. Any thoughts? Thank you! David M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Skerik" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: DM - KW & so on ... Date: 04 Feb 1999 08:30:42 -0800 > >In fact, Erasure (Vince Clarke & Andy Bell) pay tribute in their "Der >Deutscher Mix" of the song "Blue Savannah", since it contains sounds from >"Tour de France", "Home Computer" and "Trans-Europe Express". Besides, the >gatefold from Vince Clarke & Paul Quinn's record "One Day" shows four >mannequins in a row like "The Man Machine" sleeve. and a bit more directly (because VC didn't put in the KW sounds in the remix, it was remixed by gareth jones with fischerman's friend), the b-side to Rock Me Gently...... Chertsey Endlos Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Yaz Date: 04 Feb 1999 17:47:39 +0100 Lazlo Nibble wrote: >On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 06:12:22PM +0100, Jose Carlos Corchado wrote: > >> And now another off-topic and unrelated question. Why the band with Vince >> Clark and Allison Moyet is sometimes called "Yaz" and sometimes called >> "Yazoo"? > >The band's name is "Yazoo" but they're called "Yaz" in the states due to a >conflict with the US-based Yazoo record label. Yazoo is the mouth of the river Mississippi. They could not publish their records under that name in the U.S.A., where they were made call simply Yaz. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 04 Feb 1999 13:09:31 -0500 >On the Beastie Boys debute album they have a track called "She's >crafty" wich clearly has it's title influenced by KW. Unfortunately >they mispelled the name, since it should be krafty and not crafty, but >on the other hand, they are three white guys trying to do hip-hop so >what did you expect. I can also back this up by stating that since >hip-hop are the genre that is sampling KW more than anybody else, this >must be true....... oh God.... please let it be...... Yeah, right... Having listened to that song numerous times, it looks to me like you've got a one-track mind...Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk. I'm suprised that you know of any other groups. She's Crafty reminds me of Led Zepplin and certainly NOT Kraftwerk. Furthermore, The German "Kraft" and the English "Craft" do not mean the same thing, Kraft in English is only a brand name, and as as the song deals with a girl who is sly, cunning, tricky...Krafty would not be correct at all. The Beastie Boys sampled a lot of things - but to the best of my knowledge, KW is not one of them (at least on the "Licensed To Ill" and "Paul's Boutique" albums). OTOH, if Adrock, Mike D or MCA get word of it, maybe they'll try some KW. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wahlbom Subject: Re: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 04 Feb 1999 20:20:52 +0100 (MET) > LD> I own a vinyl LP whose last track has a stated "endless" running time > ... [...] > I didn't know of that :-) > The track I was writing about is from early '80s and the looping phrase i= > s > very well synchronized. > It repeats endlessly the words "for a very long time...." so there's also= > a > meaning for the infinite length... > Come on, how come no-one remembers it? I do; shame they didn't release it as a single. Maybe that and "Let's All Make A Bomb" as a double A-side - ah, it would have been so beautiful... Anders Wahlbom | http://www.update.uu.se/~awahlbom/ (Finger for geek code) | http://www.cutoff.se/dss NOW PLAYING: H17: "Let Me Go" (the 12"!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: (kw) looking for mp3 files Date: 04 Feb 1999 18:07:08 -0200 Hi friends! So like, where can I find mp3 from the albums Trans-Europa Express and Radioaktivit=E4t, anybody can help me? TIA, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 04 Feb 1999 21:31:27 +0100 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Luca Dassi Aan: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com Datum: woensdag 3 februari 1999 16:54 Onderwerp: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz > >While listening for the Nth time to TEE I suddenly realized that KW *could* >have made that track truly *endless" by tweaking the vinyl master so that >the last few seconds of the record would repeat endlessly. >I own a vinyl LP whose last track has a stated "endless" running time (and >indeed it is! you have to lift the pick-up manually). >Can anyone remember this? Of course this trivia quiz is completely in-topic >since that record is KW-influenced. :-) 'Penthouse and pavement' by Heaven 17. The song is 'We're going to live for a very long time'. Ivo Peeters # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: R: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 04 Feb 1999 16:25:28 +0000 > The tune was called 'Poing' and the band was called Rotterdam Termination Source. It was a big sucess in Holland and other European countries, one of the few commercial 'gabber' tunes. Stefan Louwers (Amsterdam-Nijmegen, Holland) >I didn't know of that :-) >The track I was writing about is from early '80s and the looping phrase is >very well synchronized. >It repeats endlessly the words "for a very long time...." so there's also a >meaning for the infinite length... >Come on, how come no-one remembers it? >Ciao, >*Luca* there is also a punk band called Flipper who did a song called BrainWash. on the LP the song appeared six times in a row on one side. each version played by the band not just re-recorded over and over, but there were no noticeable differences between the different versions and the last track of BrainWash had the last groove looped to repeat the last phrase in the song "Nevermind, forget it, you woun't understand it anyway". The reason the band did the six track of the same song and the looped groove at the end is so that people and radio DJ's (especially) would play the song over and over and once the LP ends you would not have silence while you start the other copy of the same LP on a different turntable , thus hearing the same song over and over and being brainwashed lenny g look at my lame ass web page: http://members.tripod.com/~to_the_moon/ subscribe to my lame ass discussion group: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/to_the_moon it sucks ass. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smady Menko Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 05 Feb 1999 00:04:55 -0800 (PST) ---Smady Menko wrote: >On the Beastie Boys debute album they have a track called "She's >crafty" wich clearly has it's title influenced by KW. Unfortunately >they mispelled the name, since it should be krafty and not crafty, but >on the other hand, they are three white guys trying to do hip-hop so >what did you expect. I can also back this up by stating that since >hip-hop are the genre that is sampling KW more than anybody else, this >must be true....... oh God.... please let it be...... ---Bill Dobiesz wrote: > Yeah, right... > > Having listened to that song numerous times, it looks to me like you've got > a one-track mind...Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk. I'm suprised that you > know of any other groups. > > She's Crafty reminds me of Led Zepplin and certainly NOT Kraftwerk. > Furthermore, The German "Kraft" and the English "Craft" do not mean the same > thing, Kraft in English is only a brand name, and as as the song deals with > a girl who is sly, cunning, tricky...Krafty would not be correct at all. > > The Beastie Boys sampled a lot of things - but to the best of my knowledge, > KW is not one of them (at least on the "Licensed To Ill" and "Paul's > Boutique" albums). > > OTOH, if Adrock, Mike D or MCA get word of it, maybe they'll try some KW. Hi Bill I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it is probably my own mistake since I remember that someone on the list asked for a ;-) at the end of a mail that was a joke so there would be no misunderstanding. Unfortunately I thought that this joke (yes it's a joke that I made on DER AUTOMAT and all his, IMO far-fetched and uninteresting associations to KW like the one that there is a phone company in Spain that is called Phone House.... so what ....) was so obvious that I didn't even bother to put a ;-) because I thought that no one could misunderstand this. Well I was wrong and I do apologize, if anyone feels that this is necessary. Just to make you sure, I can tell you that since I'm speaking both English and German almost fluently I'm very much aware of the difference between kraft and craft. Or maybe you're just joking too and I'm the one who's not getting it. Kindest regards Smady _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 05 Feb 1999 09:24:14 +0000 > Der Automat wrote: > > There is a band called Stock Hausen & Walkman that I presume they have given > themselves that name as an homage to Stockhausen or maybe as a gibe to > Stock, Aitken and Waterman, the productors of Take That, Sean Maguire, > Boyzone, and others. he's a sharp one isn't he # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) Amore Mutaro Autobahn Date: 05 Feb 1999 05:07:18 +0000 CBC radio last night played a song by a former Jazz musician whose name eludes me from his new album called Amore Mutaro Autobahn. it sounded somewhat Kraftwerkian and pretty good that i liked it alot, it's obvious by the title (and by the music) that the influence is there. does anyone know who this guy is? also, does anyone in North America listen to CBC Stereo 2 a programme called Brave New Waves. i've been listening for years and it is very informative and very underground. and since there is no FCC in Canada, everything is uncensored. Last night Alan Vega from Panasonic and VVV read some of his poetry, very emotional. also, Panasonic will have a new album in April under their new name - A. just like the letter. also, Add N To X will have a new album in April. and while i am writing might as well spill the beans as to say: i've been thinking about all the people who are on the Kraftwerk - unemotional, robotic, mechanical, Mr. Spock-like bandwagon. people who say that oh look at Kraftwerk they are so unemotional, no facial expression from band members, little movement on stage, and for the famous robot song they leave the stage altogether. well that's great, but you all been paying attention to the wrong emotion. don't look at what Ralf adn Florian feel like, they can be as minimalist or as flambouyant as they want to. it's the emotion that they and their music evokes in YOU! I still get shivers down my spine everytime i listen to the robots, i am scarred shitless by the idea of that song, and that's why i like it. all their songs are very emotional and very powerful. and the range of emotion transmitted by the band onto it's listeners is unparalleled. from being scarred of the robots - because we humans find the man-machine both exotic and mysterious and fear the day when these man-machines or machines take control of our planet, our lives away from us. to happy, uninhibited, bouncing baby like emotional state of Boing Boom Tschak. i mean come on, it is the purest of all emotional songs where the words are made up and if you find meaning in them, then you are the unemotional one. i see people at Kw concerts and clubs bouncing to this song, like it's a kid song or something. anyway i can go on listing examples, just remember - it's not what Kraftwerk feels, it's what you feel in response to their songs and music. "If you ain't feelin' it, you's in the wrong crowd, fool". i don't know who said that, but i'm sure someone did, if not, i'm quoting myself. emotionally, lenny g well, since they erased my lame ass webpage, here is a lame ass signature: this message was carefully crafted using recently declassified state of the art space age government technology and techniques to serve no purpose and have no meaning. it will provide neither entartainment nor education. it is by all definitions useless and pointless, having no informational or material value what so ever. if you encounter this message, we don't care (actually, there is only one of me, but "we" sounds superior, as does multitude, or plethera). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) news on my MP3 page http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Date: 05 Feb 1999 12:18:28 +0100 (CET) Hi, This Week : Kraftwerk Neon Lights Showroom Dummies Trans Europe Express >From Live Japan 9/7/81 Enjoy!!! Arnaud de Bonald Paris, France http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sid Vicious mk II" Subject: (kw) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:59:26 CET Date: 05 Feb 1999 08:13:39 -0700 Any fans from Holland? I feel alone in my quest to make Kraftwerk popular in this little country... Matt gb_not_eu@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott_Coverley@fac.com Subject: (kw) Slightly off Topic Date: 05 Feb 1999 12:59:58 -0500 I was looking for some advice from the individuals who have websites w/downloadable MP3s. I have learned that the RIAA is working with various groups to combat what they consider piracy on the internet. In an effort to create greater awareness of some of the lesser known new wave artists from the 80's, I am considering creating a site which would provide a single MP3 file weekly from an artist whose music is no longer commercially available but worthy of recognition. Technically, I believe this would still fall under the category of piracy, but feel that I would not have to worry because I would not profit and the artist would not suffer a lost sale. Anyone have any thoughts? Please E-mail me privately. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William Dobiesz Subject: FW: (kw) Slightly off Topic Date: 06 Feb 1999 01:15:38 -0500 >I was looking for some advice from the individuals who have websites >w/downloadable MP3s. I have learned that the RIAA is working with >various groups to combat what they consider piracy on the internet. I don't see it happening...if they can't stop kiddie porn and other illegal activity, I don't see how they can do it. >In an effort to create greater awareness of some of the lesser known >new wave artists from the 80's, I am considering creating a site which >would provide a single MP3 file weekly from an artist whose music is >no longer commercially available but worthy of recognition. I found out recently that there are certain groups and record companies that embrace the .MP3 format - one group has RealAudio full-length samples as well as .MP3s available for purchase - cut out the middle man, get it right now. You can even buy the CDs online if you'd rather. Another website has sample .MP3s from several groups - try before you buy. If you like them, you can even buy the CDs online. >Technically, I believe this would still fall under the category of >piracy, but feel that I would not have to worry because I would not >profit and the artist would not suffer a lost sale. Anyone have any >thoughts? Please E-mail me privately. I'm not sure about what country you're in, but in the USA, I *think* it is only a violation of copyright if you sell it. That used to be the case, I don't know if it still is. In other words, it was perfectly legal if you liked a record a friend of yours had, you provide him with a tape and he copies the record onto your tape, and no money whatsoever is exchanged, it's legal...I do not know for 100% sure that that is still true, but it was at one time. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk /FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "HFRossi_MFLuna" Subject: (kw) New in the list Date: 06 Feb 1999 14:27:35 -0300 Hi, Mi name is Horacio, I=A8m 25 and I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I hav= e a degree in Economics and I=B4planning a master. I=B4m a new fan of Kraftwe= rk, I know them since 1990. Well, I hope I could learn form you "all" the things you have to say abou= t Kraftwerk. Horacio. hfrossi_mfluna@ciudad.com.ar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M u S i K" Subject: (kw) a friend meet Florian at SONAR. Pictures on line :-) Date: 06 Feb 1999 19:07:29 +0100 Hi ! A few months ago I said that a friend meet Florian Schneidet at SONAR next day after their concert. Well, I was having dinner with my friend and his girlfriend yesterday night.Now the photos are digitalized and ON LINE at... http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/7658/kraftwerk/ Good Florian pictures ;-) Best Regards. ------------------------ MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ade Subject: (kw) Smady Menko Date: 06 Feb 1999 18:27:15 -0000 ---Smady Menko wrote: >on the other hand, they are three white guys trying to do hip-hop so >what did you expect. Oh God No!!! Yes, this IS a common misconception :-( but I'm afraid you'll find that the Beasties are an important part of hip-hop history like WAY BACK - do some reading... ;-) BTW, leave the crap jokes to the professionals... ;-) Ade (ageing hip-hopper) This mail was lovingly crafted by 'ade@the-lab.zetnet.co.uk' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ade Subject: RE: (kw) Amore Mutaro Autobahn Date: 06 Feb 1999 18:58:23 -0000 Yes, couldn't agree more. When I was a little thing, maybe seven or eight years old my dad played 'Autobahn', Jarre's 'Oxygene' & 'Snowflakes are dancing' by that Japanese synth dude - can't think of his name right now (did a lot of classical stuff reworked on synths). Anyways, this music had a profound effect on me at such an early age. I used to imagine all sorts of scary things going on in some parts of the album. There are also incredibly joyous parts of the album - for me 'Autobahn' really is special. And another thing... back in the black US ghettos where life was bad, these guys described KW as their 'soul music' & stuff like Bambataas' 'Perfect Beat' & 'Planet Rock' showed KW's music had this side to it too. Listen up! Ade. -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 5:07 AM CBC radio last night played a song by a former Jazz musician whose name eludes me from his new album called Amore Mutaro Autobahn. it sounded somewhat Kraftwerkian and pretty good that i liked it alot, it's obvious by the title (and by the music) that the influence is there. does anyone know who this guy is? also, does anyone in North America listen to CBC Stereo 2 a programme called Brave New Waves. i've been listening for years and it is very informative and very underground. and since there is no FCC in Canada, everything is uncensored. Last night Alan Vega from Panasonic and VVV read some of his poetry, very emotional. also, Panasonic will have a new album in April under their new name - A. just like the letter. also, Add N To X will have a new album in April. and while i am writing might as well spill the beans as to say: i've been thinking about all the people who are on the Kraftwerk - unemotional, robotic, mechanical, Mr. Spock-like bandwagon. people who say that oh look at Kraftwerk they are so unemotional, no facial expression from band members, little movement on stage, and for the famous robot song they leave the stage altogether. well that's great, but you all been paying attention to the wrong emotion. don't look at what Ralf adn Florian feel like, they can be as minimalist or as flambouyant as they want to. it's the emotion that they and their music evokes in YOU! I still get shivers down my spine everytime i listen to the robots, i am scarred shitless by the idea of that song, and that's why i like it. all their songs are very emotional and very powerful. and the range of emotion transmitted by the band onto it's listeners is unparalleled. from being scarred of the robots - because we humans find the man-machine both exotic and mysterious and fear the day when these man-machines or machines take control of our planet, our lives away from us. to happy, uninhibited, bouncing baby like emotional state of Boing Boom Tschak. i mean come on, it is the purest of all emotional songs where the words are made up and if you find meaning in them, then you are the unemotional one. i see people at Kw concerts and clubs bouncing to this song, like it's a kid song or something. anyway i can go on listing examples, just remember - it's not what Kraftwerk feels, it's what you feel in response to their songs and music. "If you ain't feelin' it, you's in the wrong crowd, fool". i don't know who said that, but i'm sure someone did, if not, i'm quoting myself. emotionally, lenny g well, since they erased my lame ass webpage, here is a lame ass signature: this message was carefully crafted using recently declassified state of the art space age government technology and techniques to serve no purpose and have no meaning. it will provide neither entartainment nor education. it is by all definitions useless and pointless, having no informational or material value what so ever. if you encounter this message, we don't care (actually, there is only one of me, but "we" sounds superior, as does multitude, or plethera). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) Autobahn 7" Date: 05 Feb 1999 17:43:16 +0100 > Subject: (kw) Question on Thrift Store find > > My room-mate came back from thrift store shopping very excited the other day > because he had scored a Kraftwerk single. It's the Autobahn 7" on Vertigo > records, no picture sleeve. I was wondering how hard it is to find this > single. It was just very strange that he would find this at a Southern > Maryland Salvation Army store. Thanks for any help you can offer- Well, I guess it's one of the US issues you've got. If its is the regular issue VE-203, the value is around US $ 10 maximum. If it is the mono/stereo promo VE-DJ-8, also US $ 10, maybe 12. If it is the long/short version promo (unique edit on B) VE-DJ-9, then the value is also around US $ 12, but more if the dealer knows what it is (maybe 20, then). Prices are for nice copies - ex. to m. Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ade Subject: RE: (kw) Amore Mutaro Autobahn Date: 06 Feb 1999 20:58:48 -0000 -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 7:37 PM In a message dated 2/6/99 2:16:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, ade@the- lab.zetnet.co.uk writes: << 'Snowflakes are dancing' by that Japanese synth dude - can't think of his name right now (did a lot of classical stuff reworked on synths). >> The artist is Tomita -- Snowflakes is from his Pictures at an Exhibition album, I think. Excellent! Thanks Tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Amore Mutaro Autobahn Date: 05 Feb 1999 16:30:15 -0500 On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:58:23 -0000 Ade writes: > >Yes, couldn't agree more. > >When I was a little thing, maybe seven or eight years old my dad >played 'Autobahn', >Jarre's 'Oxygene' & 'Snowflakes are dancing' by that Japanese synth >dude - can't think >of his name right now (did a lot of classical stuff reworked on >synths). > you're thinking of tomita...shoulda played you some keith emerson while he was at it... tom w np: kw - vor uns metropolis ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Stanford" Subject: (kw) radio-activity album cover Date: 06 Feb 1999 13:42:51 PST Greetings all: While poking around the internet in my oodles of spare time, I found this interesting tidbit of information: The radio sported on the cover of Radio-Activity was used for Nazi propaganda in WWII. There had originally been a swastika where the album title now lies! I just wanted to see if this was true. Also, on the topic of Radioactivity, was there ever an official music video for it? If so, what was it like? Thanks. -al- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: datafreq Subject: Re: (kw) radio-activity album cover Date: 06 Feb 1999 19:32:57 -0500 At 01:42 PM 06/02/99 -0800, Alan Stanford wrote: > >Greetings all: > >While poking around the internet in my oodles of spare time, I found >this interesting tidbit of information: > >The radio sported on the cover of Radio-Activity was used for Nazi >propaganda > in WWII. There had originally been a swastika where the album >title now lies! > >I just wanted to see if this was true. Also, on the topic of >Radioactivity, was there ever an official music video for it? If so, >what was it like? Thanks. yes, the radio story is true...the swastika was airbrushed out... there is a video for radioactivity...i have it but it's in really bad shape... it's a dark video almost black and white, with them walking around... that's all i can remember... dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: (kw) radio-activity album cover Date: 06 Feb 1999 21:46:33 -0500 >The radio sported on the cover of Radio-Activity was used for Nazi >propaganda in WWII. There had originally been a swastika where the album >title now lies! >I just wanted to see if this was true. Yes it is. I have a friend that is a German radio collector (no, he doesn't have one of these), and he told me that they were given to the citizens, free of charge. It was a very simple, 2-tube (you may call them valves) design that was not capable of picking up weak, distant stations with news that might not be what they wanted you to hear, but would easily pick up strong local stations that were brodcasting propaganda. Designed for multiple line voltages (even 150 volts which I understand was used in Australia at the time), they would be useful in every country as the Nazis took over the world. He also told me that although these radios were made by several manufacturers and huge numbers were produced and given away, today they are extremely rare collectors items and are quite valuable. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Robert Moog Date: 07 Feb 1999 12:08:24 +0100 (CET) On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:37:05 -0700, FXCordero wrote: > >Robert Moog was on the TV Guide Awards last night playing the theremin. It >was during the introduction of the sci-fi awards. btw, he was also interviewed by www.zzounds.com. It's interesting, I was hoping he would mension Kraftwerk but this is not the case... btw, Does anyone here have sound clips of the theremin? Never heard what kind of sound it produces. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas W." Subject: Re: (kw) radio-activity album cover Date: 07 Feb 1999 04:44:28 +0100 > >>The radio sported on the cover of Radio-Activity was used for Nazi >>propaganda in WWII. There had originally been a swastika where the alb= um >>title now lies! > Maybe thats the reason why the used a stylised painting of a "Volksempf=E4nger" radio on the front cover instead of a photograph as they did on the backside, because otherwise it could be a bit misunderstood and too close to a Nazi item or so. Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) radio-activity album cover Date: 07 Feb 1999 20:56:30 +0100 > there is a video for radioactivity...i have it but it's in >really bad shape... > > it's a dark video almost black and white, with them walking there are also a video of them playing radioactivity, not live, I suppose, with close-ups on Bartos and/or Flur using the electronic percussion pad with two little rods wired to the thing. sometimes they brush over it instead of hitting, and that is during the white noise modulated sweeps. I don't have this video but remember very clear it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: R: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 07 Feb 1999 20:44:59 +0100 >It repeats endlessly the words "for a very long time...." so there's also a >meaning for the infinite length... for a very long time? maybe Heaven 17 or some of the band of the early british electro new wave resulting from various permutations and swap of members? :-) anyway I remember that Black Flag or Henry Rollins once made a record like this, not that I ever like the genre, anyway. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOADOOR@aol.com Subject: (kw) Superb New Kraftwerk site Date: 07 Feb 1999 13:11:06 EST My nephew's just finnished his web site on Kraftwerk.Please vivsit it. http://www.kraftwerk.findhere.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: "Radioactivity" Promo Video (was: Re: (kw) radio-activity album Date: 07 Feb 1999 23:09:12 +0000 > > there is a video for radioactivity...i have it but it's in really bad shape... > > it's a dark video almost black and white, with them walking > > there are also a video of them playing radioactivity, not live, I suppose, That's actually the only promo video for "Radioactivity", the video described above must be the video for "Neon Lights". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Coma" single now commercially released Date: 07 Feb 1999 23:09:12 +0000 Superior's single "Coma" was finally commercially released in enhanced CD single format. Catalogue number: Virgin VSCDT1646 7243 8 94391 2 0. Track listing: 1. Single Version 3:34" 2. Baader Meinhof Mix 4:34" 3. New Pain New Gain 2:46" 4. Fibreflex Mix 6:37" Multimedia content: - Promo video - Lyrics - Photos There is also a Quicktime video with an edited version of Karl Bartos' & Markus Loehr's "Komatrix Mix" (titled "kraftwrk.mov"), but it is not directly accessible from the menue. The Bartos remix is the same version as on the promo release (SUP DJ 97), but while Karl Bartos is mentioned in the credits of the promo version, the commercial version doesn't give him credits. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar R Johansson Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk - n1 to zurich Date: 08 Feb 1999 02:57:57 +0100 Found "Kraftwerk - n1 to zurich" (mp3) toady. Any info about it (year)? Regards /Gunnar R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Swapsies Date: 08 Feb 1999 09:04:01 -0000 Hi Kraft-World, I have got a brand new copy of "KRAFTWERK 2" on CD, only played once, up for grabs. I'm looking to exchange it for a copy of either "TRANS-EUROPA EXPRESS" or "THE MIX" (German language versions) on CD. Anyone out there interested ???????? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Tokyo record store info needed... Date: 08 Feb 1999 19:05:41 +0900 Sorry for posting it again... Domotool bounced it back to me with a caution of "Excessive quited text". ------------------------Original message follows------------------------ Hello Roland, So you'll have a trip to Tokyo? Here's some informative URLs for Tokyo visitors. [local info] https://www.twics.com/~robbs/tleisure.html "Tokyo Meltdown" http://www.home.inreach.com/asunaro/J!-ENT/ "J! Ent" e-zine ...where we can find information on restaurants, subway, bookstores, clubbing in Tokyo, etc. I especially recommend Tokyo Meltdown site. [hotel list] http://www.yadokari.co.jp/English/ken13_E.htm Umm... I'm not very good at finding hotels here. I _live_ in Tokyo for eleven years, and I just don't need it. ;-) I'd rather recommend to talk with your travel agent, especially in the communication ability of the hotel staff. [airport] http://www.narita-airport.or.jp/airport_e/index_e.html Plus, I also recommend to get "Tokyo Classified" weekly free mag, which is easily found at most main CD stores in Shinjuku/Shibuya like HMV, Tower Records and Virgin Megastore. We can get it together with flyers and find latest info on restaurants/ clubs/films/etc. Finding vinyls/CDs and paying with credit card... It depends on stores but it will never be cheap. Any further info somebody? 8-) Ordinal made-in-Japan CD will generally cost 2500-3000 yen, which is approximately equivalent with 20-25 EURO or 22-26 US$ or 32-38 Switzerland Francs. (thanks to http://www.xe.net/currency/ ) Neonlights of all-Japanese letters might drive you crazy. BTW my current office is located at Shinjuku, some 15-20 minutes on foot from the station. Not very distant from (secretly-)well-known bootleg town. My section is going to move to another place someday in March, though. In case any further info is needed, please email me. (such as train/bus timetable from/to the airport?) All the best, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi MURATA (NTT Business Communication Headquarters) (Nishi-Shinjuku Tokyo Japan) (work) (private) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Damerst,Lincoln M" Subject: (kw) Snowflakes are Dancing Date: 08 Feb 1999 06:43:35 -0800 Hey all, << 'Snowflakes are dancing' by that Japanese synth dude - can't think of his name right now (did a lot of classical stuff reworked on synths). >> >>The artist is Tomita -- Snowflakes is from his Pictures at an Exhibition >>album, I think. Sorry for the non-Kraftwerk post, but I just wanted to note that Tomita's version of Snowflakes are Dancing is from Snowflakes are Dancing, an album of Debussy interpretations, not Pictures at an Exhibition. Just wanted to point that out to avoid a disappointment if someone purchases it. Lincoln Damerst # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk 2 for TEE/The MIX trade Date: 08 Feb 1999 14:58:52 -0000 Hi Werkers - I have got a spare copy of KRAFTWERK 2 on CD (Germanofon pressing). It's brand new. I am looking to trade it for TRANS EUROPA EXPRESS or THE MIX (German language versions). Anyone out there interested ??????? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) Mark n' Lard's Tenuous Links [uk] Date: 08 Feb 1999 17:23:43 +0000 Yo! I'm back, from sunny east asia! What's occurring eh? Hmmm, seems like the list has degenerated into semi-intelligent discussions, better fix that one then! ;-) In answer to our new game of tenuous keaftwerky style links, i was recently in austria, and happened upon a certain 'kaprun kraftwerken' Weird methinks, do you reckon Ralph and flo' have patented power stations now? ;-)) And, who's the git who mentioned that kraft cheese is a uk patent? That's dashed all my hopes, i've been collecting the bloody packets for some 10 years now, thinking i could sell the buggers along with my kraftwerk vinyl as a sort of 'twats memorabilia' ;-P oh, woe is me, Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: FW: (kw) Slightly off Topic Date: 07 Feb 1999 23:25:06 +0100 >>w/downloadable MP3s. I have learned that the RIAA is working with >>various groups to combat what they consider piracy on the internet. > >I don't see it happening...if they can't stop kiddie porn and other illegal >activity, I don't see how they can do it. the problem is that they will only create problems to the innocent guys that just want to have some clean fun and are traceable down, and not to the ones that will make real piracy. as always, strong with the weak, weak with the strong, and obtain some newspaper title here and there to show they "really" work. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Godfrey" Subject: (kw) Pop Trivia bits mentioned recently... (Sorry a bit off-topic) Date: 08 Feb 1999 06:25:10 PST >In fact, Erasure (Vince Clarke & Andy Bell) pay tribute in their >"Der Deutscher Mix" of the song "Blue Savannah", since it contains >sounds from "Tour de France", "Home Computer" and "Trans-Europe >Express". Besides, the gatefold from Vince Clarke & Paul Quinn's >record "One Day" shows four mannequins in a row like "The Man >Machine" sleeve. The Deutscher Mix is, in my opinion, a pretty good mix. Not outstanding, but it shows what can be achieved through recycling KW noises creatively. The mannequins, I must add, were actually 1970's/80's "Action Men". Action Man was the UK (and other Europe?) equivalent of GI-Joe. There were 100s of uniforms and gadgets available for them - although sadly never a Kling Klang outfit or flashing LED tie. They're on sale again but have been working out in the gym, so cannot be used in pop videos, record sleeves, etc any longer except for heavy metal bands, Springsteen, etc. >"Luca Dassi" >I own a vinyl LP whose last track has a stated "endless" running >time (and indeed it is! you have to lift the pick-up manually). >Can anyone remember this? Of course this trivia quiz is completely >in-topic since that record is KW-influenced. :-) Another was Yazoo's "You and Me Both" LP, which finished one of the sides with looped laughing round the run-off groove. I don't know what record companies do with these loops when these LPs are downgraded to CD releases. Perhaps they're edited out. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: (kw) T.E.E. Date: 09 Feb 1999 00:28:57 -0500 Does anyone know if the T.E.E. still exists? Where does (or did) it run? I see various things about European tours, and a lot involve trains, but not a word about T.E.E. Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) T.E.E. Date: 09 Feb 1999 09:04:03 +0100 > Does anyone know if the T.E.E. still exists? Where does (or did) it run? > > I see various things about European tours, and a lot involve trains, but > not > a word about T.E.E. > > Bill > > Hi Bill ! As I understand, the last TEE was replaced by EC (Euro City) in 1990. In 1993 the Paris - Brussels rout TEE services were resurrected, but these replaced EC services by name only and were both 1st and 2nd class; they were replaced in 1995 by TGV services. Here is a link that can tell you more. http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/english/public_transport/TEE/ Kindest Regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Piledrive bonus Date: 09 Feb 1999 09:58:41 +0100 (CET) On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:27:52 +0100, Der Automat wrote: >"The Essential Collection Synthesizer 2000" (Arcade) double CD includes a >cover version of Trans-Europe Express produced and programmed by Ed Starink. He also made covers of Autobahn, the Model & Radio-activity in the past. and maybe others... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott_Coverley@fac.com Subject: (kw) Slightly off-topic Date: 09 Feb 1999 09:00:05 -0500 I am looking for software to convert an analog recording to MP3 format. Can anyone suggest something? Please E-mail me privately. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Future Music Date: 09 Feb 1999 15:52:58 +0100 Number 24 (February 1999) of the Spanish edition of Future Music magazine contains: (page 10) "Trans-World Express", a chronicle about KW's gig from Detroit to Roskilde. This article speaks about the rumour of a new album which would combine new recordings of classic material with new tracks. On page 24 it appears a photo of a KW concert. Page 39 features a poll of the readers of the magazine about "The best 25 electronic works of the history" and KW appear in number 2 with Computer World, number 12 with The Man Machine, number 14 with Trans-Europe Express and number 20 with Autobahn. Also in the poll "The 60 best electronic musicians of the history" Kraftwerk appear in number 1. This article also contains a photo of the Robots with an statement of Wolfgang Fluer. Besides the same magazine includes (page 55) an interview with Thomas Fehlmann (Sun Electric) which he states that he has a radio program in Bonn (Germany) called Musica Obscura (like the Wolfgang Fluer Yamo's 12"). On page 61 an interview with Add N To X mentions that the band contains the essence of Throbbing Gristle, Suicide and Cabaret Voltaire "dressed" with robotic Kraftwerkian voices. The documentary "The rebellion of the robots" was emitted 10 January on Spanish tv (TVE-2) programm 'Redes' a scientist and cultural spreading programm which is aired on Sundays from 1 to 2 a.m. (local hour). Has anyone recorded this programm? Apparently there are a 12" bootleg of Kraftwerk entitled "Lost tracks" (1983er Original)". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Radicart Subject: (kw) Vocoder... Date: 09 Feb 1999 22:39:31 -0500 Does anyone can explain me how a "vocoder" works and i would like to know if it still exist and if it is still available. By the way, is there any good software to do "vocal" effect.....? Thanks... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: (kw) Beat Battle of the Century Date: 10 Feb 1999 07:31:03 -0700 I found this last night surfing the Kraftwerk ocean. It's billed as "The World Heavyweight Title Fight....The Beat Battle of the Century" (Launch magazine). And the winner is........ http://www.launch.com/Features/fs_Start.asp?contentType=INTV&FeatureMode=Int erview&ContentId=260 DJFRANKX http://members.tripod.com/~DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: (kw) Beat Battle Date: 10 Feb 1999 18:59:01 -0700 Try: www.launch.com Enter "Kraftwerk" under artist/album search. The last address was incomplete. Thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric Oehler" Subject: (kw) Re: Vocoder Date: 11 Feb 1999 08:43:30 -0600 > >Does anyone can explain me how a "vocoder" works and i would >like to know if it still exist and if it is still available. In simplest terms, it takes one sound and modulates it with another...like taking a syntehsizer tone and modulating it with a voice. In more complex terms, it's a system that analyzes a modulation signal after breaking it into a fixed number of bands, then applies that analysis to a bank of parallel bandpass filters through which a "carrier" signal is routed. So it affects the formants of the sound without affecting pitch, amplitude, etc. There are a few that are still manufactured, and a few of the new "dance" synths have them built in now (Ensoniq Fizmo, Kurzweil k2500 has a mod for it, Quasimidi Sirius has one, Roland JP8080...) >By the way, is there any good software to do "vocal" effect.....? >Thanks... For vocoder-style effects, if you use an audio program that supports plugins, Opcode makes the "fusion vocoder" which is a nearly-realtime vocoder plugin. Prosoniq makes the "orange Vocoder" for VST as well, and I've heard good things about that. There are some other programs as well (I use one on the mac that's arcane and complex) that arne't realtime but have higher numbers of bands and thus give more analysis precision. _________________________________________________________________ Eric Oehler Professional Internet Geek wonko@itis.com http://www.itis.com/~wonko If it's not on fire, it's a software problem. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no (Joar Grimstvedt) Subject: (kw) The Model Date: 11 Feb 1999 16:11:18 +0100 Yesterday in the programme "Aapen post" on the TV channel NRK 1 (Norway), the main guest was introduced with the show guitar band playing a very brief 'The Model' - just that instrumental interlude. It was all incidental, however the guest is a photographer famous for taking some early topless pictures of Lene the vocalist of Aqua. Thus another one in that game of connecting Kraftwerk and Aqua. And more, the vocalist has settled in with her bodyguard, a mr. Schneider. So there. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.five.no/joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: R: (kw) Endless Endless Trivia Quiz Date: 11 Feb 1999 20:02:52 +0100 The first album of the German rap-meisters Fantastischen 4 ends with a song "Arschloch". The end is the sound of an record ending and staying in the "last" groove. I have the CD-version (vinyl was banned in the Netherlands in those days) and it lasted till the last 74 minutes CD-time. I don't know if the vinyl-version is "endless", maybe some of our German fiends know Cheers, Jeroen de Haan -- "I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell..." Captain Blackadder, Blackadder Goes Forth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Radioactivity Video Date: 11 Feb 1999 10:01:41 PST lbo and Klaus, There=B4s a video from Radioactivity. I do=B4n=B4t know if it has the com= plete=20 song. I recorded many years ago (circa 88) a brazilian TV program called=20 Som Pop (Pop Sound) at TV Cultura a compilation of KW videos. The first=20 one was this one. It begins with a pair of silver gloves synchro with=20 Geiger Counter and then, in Radioactivity we have the morse code=20 spelling radioactivity. Then there is a close up in red lights of the=20 eletronic percussion with Karl (or Wolfgang?) brushing his wired sticks=20 in the pads. I think it has some close ups from singing. And then it=20 fakes to the guy that presents the other videos. At that time I asked to a friend who worked at TV Cultura and she told=20 me they didn=B4t have the complete video. So I don=B4t know if it exists. I have a copy of this program, but I didn=B4t find it at my video=20 collection. Maybe I have to reindex my hundreds of tapes... BTW, the other videos were Pocket Calculator, Musique Non Stop, Tour De=20 France (Breakdance) and Telephone Call. peace Nicolau > > there is a video for radioactivity...i have it but it's in really=20 bad shape... > > it's a dark video almost black and white, with them walking>=20 > there are also a video of them playing radioactivity, not live, I=20 suppose, > That's actually the only promo video for "Radioactivity", the video=20 > described above must be the video for "Neon Lights". =20 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Radioactivity Video Date: 11 Feb 1999 22:38:41 +0000 > lbo and Klaus, > There=B4s a video from Radioactivity. I do=B4n=B4t know if it has the co= mplete > song. Not the complete song as such, but it does feature the complete single edit of the song. > It begins with a pair of silver gloves synchro with > Geiger Counter and then, Actually, it begins with the "Radioactivity" logo, followed by some animated radiation emitting from the word "Kraftwerk", but these sequences are often left out when the video is shown on TV. > in Radioactivity we have the morse code > spelling radioactivity. Then there is a close up in red lights of the > eletronic percussion with Karl (or Wolfgang?) brushing his wired sticks > in the pads. I think it has some close ups from singing. Yes, that's the same video that was described by lbo. > At that time I asked to a friend who worked at TV Cultura and she told > me they didn=B4t have the complete video. So I don=B4t know if it exists= . Yes, a complete video does exist. It's referenced with running time in the "Kraftwerk International Discography" at http://home.t-online.de/home/Armin.Poecker/edtrmx.htm, by the way. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) Karneval Date: 11 Feb 1999 17:07:31 +0100 Hello Jecken ! Does anybody know, if Ralf and Florian will celebrate Karneval this year ? Düsseldorf Helau ! Gubbolf P.S.: Kölle Allaaf ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark reed Subject: Re: (kw) Karneval Date: 11 Feb 1999 20:31:04 +0000 >Does anybody know, if Ralf and Florian will celebrate Karneval this year ? > probably in Kraftwerk's usual style. That is, doing nothing. Releasing nothing. Touring next to never. Doing f-all basically. Except making some of their albums available for you to purchase in the music stores so you can celebrate at home. Robots don't need friends see... Ok, sarcasm non-stop. -- mark reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rafa" Subject: (kw) Hi all Date: 12 Feb 1999 02:45:01 +0100 Hi all, Today I've returned to the Net since 3 or 4 months without connection. Any important news about our Robots??? I've visited the official site but no changes :( One off-topic question: Anybody knows where is Jos=E9 Garcia? I've e-mailed him but the mail serv= er returned error messages. This is for Jos=E9: Jose, te he estado escribiendo a tu direcci=F3n de arrakis, pero creo que= ya no la tienes. Donde puede encontrarte?. Saludos. Thanx in advance. Rafa. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Karneval Date: 11 Feb 1999 20:48:03 EST In a message dated 2/11/99 7:47:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, mar@markgenius1.demon.co.uk writes: << >Does anybody know, if Ralf and Florian will celebrate Karneval this year ? > probably in Kraftwerk's usual style. That is, doing nothing. Releasing nothing. Touring next to never. Doing f-all basically. Except making some of their albums available for you to purchase in the music stores so you can celebrate at home. Robots don't need friends see... Ok, sarcasm non-stop. -- mark reed >> Sarcasm? Maybe. Some truth? Maybe. Taking the names of my heroes in vain? Maybe. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) Endless endless quiz answers... Date: 11 Feb 1999 23:11:46 +0500 Two more KW-oriented records with weird runoff grooves: 'Neurovision' by Telex; it ends with an answering-machine message whose "BEEEEEEEEP" runs off the end of Side 2 and repeats forever, and 'Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr Gut' (which is either a compilation album or 'an incredible simulation'). It ends with two people discussing modern music in German; suddenly a gutteral voice asks 'How many records have you bought today?" That's also in German, by the way, and I'm not sure the translation is 100 per cent correct. In any case, it ends up in the runoff groove, but the repetitiion isn't perfect and the voice keeps cutting itself off. BTW, the album ostensibly contains some KW material, but I don't know if it's the real thing or not. -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Abzug Eins" Subject: RE:(kw) Radioactivity Video Date: 11 Feb 1999 14:53:24 PST Hello!! > There=B4s a video from Radioactivity. I do=B4n=B4t know if it has the=20 complete song. I recorded many years ago (circa 88) a brazilian TV=20 program called Som Pop (Pop Sound) at TV Cultura a compilation of KW=20 videos.=20 That's true!! > At that time I asked to a friend who worked at TV Cultura and she=20 told me they didn=B4t have the complete video. So I don=B4t know if it=20 exists. Well, it's very strange... I remember also the "Antenna" video!!! end Abzug ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) vinyl was banned in the Netherlands in those days Date: 12 Feb 1999 01:06:05 -0800 Jeroen de Haan wrote: >vinyl was banned in the Netherlands in those days when? how can vinyl be banned, did people melt the plastic, and inhale the fumes, scrape off shavings roll them up and smoke them, was someone injured by a renegade LP? i've lived in russia for 12 years and even russia had vinyl. how can vinyl be banned? sorry, i am not being sarcastic, i just don't understand why? please explain this strange and mysterious phenomenon thanks, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) news on my MP3 page http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Date: 12 Feb 1999 07:26:14 +0100 (CET) Hi, This week: Kraftwerk Autobahn & the Robots From Live Japan 9/7/81 This live performance of Autobahn is really one of the best they've made, with improvised lyrics... I love it. See you next week for more Enjoy!!! Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: (kw) Re:Vocoder Date: 10 Feb 1999 00:37:49 PST Hi all The first vocoder was built in 1939, and was originally designed to save bandwidth on the telephone-net. The basic function of a vocoder is a number of bandpass-filters, that so to speak, filters out "redundant" information in the speechsignal, and only keep whats necessary to get the message across. The type of vocoder that you are referring to is somewhat different, because it has been specially customized for use in music, you could say that the difference is that a musical vocoder also has something called a carrier-signal, that lets you change the pitch of the "speech" via a keyboard. There are a lot of old vocoders, which could be both hard to get and really expensive, like the KORG VC-10, for instance, but there are also new vocoders, manufactured by for instance; PAiA, and DOEPFER, (both of which you could find on the net). There is also a downloadable software-vocoder on the net called ZYCLONIX, (you can find it at www.hitsquad.com), but it pretty much sucks because of its extremely high latency. It could be worth downloading if you have never seen a vocoder before, and want to learn more about them. Good luck, Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: RE: (kw) Re:Vocoder Date: 12 Feb 1999 09:17:09 -0600 The vocoder was also used by an American performer Roger. He had a hit = in late 80's called 'Computer Love.' Nice song. The vocoder came in = very handy because Roger reportedly does not know how sing very well. = By modulating the pitch of his voice he was able to sing right on key. =20 The vocoder also helps our Kraftwerk singers. Ho-hum.... -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:38 AM Hi all The first vocoder was built in 1939, and was originally designed to save = bandwidth on the telephone-net. The basic function of a vocoder is a=20 number of bandpass-filters, that so to speak, filters out "redundant"=20 information in the speechsignal, and only keep whats necessary to get=20 the message across. The type of vocoder that you are referring to is somewhat different,=20 because it has been specially customized for use in music, you could say = that the difference is that a musical vocoder also has something called=20 a carrier-signal, that lets you change the pitch of the "speech" via a=20 keyboard. There are a lot of old vocoders, which could be both hard to get and=20 really expensive, like the KORG VC-10, for instance, but there are also=20 new vocoders, manufactured by for instance; PAiA, and DOEPFER, (both of=20 which you could find on the net). There is also a downloadable=20 software-vocoder on the net called ZYCLONIX, (you can find it at=20 www.hitsquad.com), but it pretty much sucks because of its extremely=20 high latency. It could be worth downloading if you have never seen a=20 vocoder before, and want to learn more about them. Good luck, Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original = sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: = http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: RE: (kw) Re:Vocoder Date: 12 Feb 1999 13:44:36 +0000 At 09:17 AM 2/12/99 -0600, you wrote: > >The vocoder was also used by an American performer Roger. He had a hit in late 80's called 'Computer Love.' Nice song. The vocoder came in very handy because Roger reportedly does not know how sing very well. By modulating the pitch of his voice he was able to sing right on key. i don't know, i think roger used a different kind of device called a "voxbox" or a "talkbox" that wasn't entirely a vocoder. it was more primitive than a vocoder, i have schematics and documentation on useage for this device somewhere, i can look it up for sure. all i remember is that there was alot less electrnics involved and more common household items, like plastic tubbing, speaker horns, etc. and Roger had to hold the plastic tube in his mouth while singing, back in the early days and when i saw him recently on Vibe TV Show in US. and let me apologise for mentioning that Peter Frampton also used the "voxbox" on "do you feel like i do" song. this device anyone can build with stuff they probably already have at home. well, you'll have to find a really large speaker horn, (like the kind they use at stadiums) the rest of the stuff is really commonplace. i'll look up the info on this device. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Ultra rare Trax Vol 2. Date: 13 Feb 1999 21:51:55 -0000 I happened by the above bootleg today and I haven't seen it before. All the remixes have appeared across several other bootleg cd's at one time or another. Track List; 1.Tour De France (Kevorkian Remix) 2.Radioactivity (William Orbit Remix) 3.Techno Pop (1983 Version) 4. Les Mannequins (Original 1978 ext. French Remix) (Just the regular version actually) 5.Electric Cafe (Mix-It Remix) 6.Sex Object (razormaid mix) 7.The Telephone call (Razormaid mix) 8.Computerwelt (Razormaid mix) 9.The Robots (Ultimix) 10.Pocket Calculator (Mix-It Remix) You can find a picture of sleeve and other bootleg/Tribute cd at ; http://members.xoom.com/hoverkraft/covers.htm Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) Kraftworld Updated Date: 14 Feb 1999 18:17:08 -0300 I added two photos from Buenos Aires concert to my page (at 1998 Tour Concerts reports). http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EP Subject: (kw) Radioactivity question Date: 13 Feb 1999 15:54:40 +0500 Hello, I am no longer subscribed to this list but was so from March 1997 - July 1998 and am still a big fan but one without the time to read through all of the messages (even in digest form). I have a question about the Radioactivity LP which is listed in Lazlo's discog. I have had for some time one copy of this but recently I bought a copy of Ralf & Florian and had to buy Radioactivity to get it. So, I get it in the mail today and notice that the new (to me) copy had a slick inner-sleeve for holding the record. It also had a set of "RADIO-ACTIVITY" stickers that are yellowish green and have bright orangish radioactivity symbols with "KRAFTWERK" written above them in black and "RADIO-ACTIVITY" written below also in black. I assume these are normal things to be included but the other version of the (apparently) same LP has a soft(non-glossy) inner-sleeve. As far as I can tell there is no difference in the inner-sleeves other than the paper used and the way it was folded. Is my version with the soft paper actually a reprint and the glossy is the original? vice-versa? please help, so I know which one to sell away! Thanks, Emmett P.S. - please respond via private e-mail or at least CC: the post to me if you send it to the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) Grammy award? Date: 14 Feb 1999 23:58:52 +0500 I just came across a Web site that sez Computer World had been nominated for a Grammy. Is that true, and what kind of Grammy was it nominated for? -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Bailey" Subject: (kw) Question Date: 15 Feb 1999 11:23:54 -0000 Hi All, I have been lent a CD buy my girlfriends brother that is called, "KRAFTWELT - Electric Dimension", it has a date of 1996 and all songs are written by, Oldenborg, Christinsen, Gylsen and Schmidt. Does anybody know who this is ? if so please fill me. Many Thanks dannyb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Question Date: 15 Feb 1999 06:16:24 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Daniel Bailey wrote: > I have been lent a CD buy my girlfriends brother that is called, > "KRAFTWELT - Electric Dimension", it has a date of 1996 and all songs are > written by, Oldenborg, Christinsen, Gylsen and Schmidt. Does anybody know > who this is ? if so please fill me. It's a group that pays tribute to Kraftwerk. Kraftwelt has three albums out that I know of - Electric Dimension, Deranged in Space, and Retroish. All three are marked "Dedicated to Ralf & Florian". I wish I knew more about them. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Grammy award? Date: 15 Feb 1999 09:08:07 EST In a message dated 2/14/99 10:53:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, cgross@pop.erols.com writes: << I just came across a Web site that sez Computer World had been nominated for a Grammy. Is that true, and what kind of Grammy was it nominated for? >> For best album in the Heavy Metal catagory :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Electro Non Stop! Date: 13 Feb 1999 12:40:18 +0100 "Chamber" (Hydrogen Dukebox, 1999) by Thrust possess Central European roo= ts =E0 la KRAFTWERK. "Electro Non Stop!" (Force Inc.) compilation CD includes A1 People, Bioch= ip C, Steve Stoll, Computer Rockers, Malefic, Kerosene, DMX Krew, Zulutronic= , Justin Berkovi, etc. There is a Japanese band called Tanzmuzik that has released a CD entitled "Version Citie Hi-Lights". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Electro Non Stop! Date: 15 Feb 1999 10:14:44 +0100 "Chamber" (Hydrogen Dukebox, 1999) by Thrust possess Central European roo= ts =E0 la KRAFTWERK. "Electro Non Stop!" (Force Inc.) compilation CD includes A1 People, Bioch= ip C, Steve Stoll, Computer Rockers, Malefic, Kerosene, DMX Krew, Zulutronic= , Justin Berkovi, etc., all of them influenced to a large extent by KRAFTWERK. There is a Japanese band called Tanzmuzik that has released a CD entitled "Version Citie Hi-Lights". Khosmaker has made an electro-bass cover version of The Man Machine at 14= 0 bpm. This track is included in "Elektro domesticos" (Tu pierdes) CD. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: (kw) You've been around DJ's way too much when... Date: 15 Feb 1999 20:48:18 +0000 Something a couple of friends sent me... how any do you fall under? > Top 10 Signs That You've Been Hanging Out With DJ's Too Long by Kim & Shelby > > 10. You've been linked romantically with at least three different DJ's because > you're seen so often in their company. > > 9. It doesn't even phaze you to hear, "Yeah, I ordered $300 of records this > week." > > 8. Words like Chicago, Orlando, and L.A. are descriptions of sounds, not > cities. > > 7. You're expected to know the difference between a 606 and a 909. > > 6. You know that mixing isn't what you do to a cake, a board isn't used to > build a house, and tables aren't for eating. > > 5. When travelling, one of the first things you do is look for a store that > sells vinyl. > > 4. You can identify a track within the first 5 seconds of play, even when it's > being mixed with another track. > > 3. You start calling songs "tracks". > > 2. A constant thought is, "Need more bass." > > 1. You can't remember your own telephone number, but you can clearly recall > the title, artist, and vocals of an obscure song you only heard 3 times back > in 1993. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) You've been around DJ's way too much when... Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:25:30 +0000 11. You start bangin' on about kraftwerk, even though you're only 15 years old and have never heard them, and would sell your granny for a TB-303 that you don't even know how to use. ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Vocoder & RE: (kw) Question Date: 16 Feb 1999 16:13:16 +0100 It exists a vocoder called Quasimidi Sirius which have a sound named "kraftwerk". You can find more info about what's a vocoder in Kraftwerk FAQ: Miscellaneous at http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ Ra wrote: >It's a group that pays tribute to Kraftwerk. Kraftwelt has three albums >out that I know of - Electric Dimension, Deranged in Space, and Retroish. >All three are marked "Dedicated to Ralf & Florian". > >I wish I knew more about them. Kraftwelt are actually one and the same as Audio Science, who contributed a couple of tracks to the "TranceWerk Express" Volume 1, described as "in the spirit of KRAFTWERK". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Re:Vocoder Date: 16 Feb 1999 15:30:40 +0000 Peder Livijn wrote: >The type of vocoder that you are referring to is somewhat different, >because it has been specially customized for use in music, you could say >that the difference is that a musical vocoder also has something called >a carrier-signal Are you sure that this is unique to "musical" vocoders? I thought this was the original idea of _all_ vocoders (but correct me if I'm wrong). There is of course an explanation of vocoders at the FAQ, but since the discussion has been broadened: >There are a lot of old vocoders, which could be both hard to get and >really expensive, like the KORG VC-10, Don't seek out one of these. They do turn up second-hand once in a while, but I've yet to hear anything complimentary about them. >There is also a downloadable >software-vocoder on the net called ZYCLONIX For the PC, I would guess? (Mac users can try Zerius Vocoder [not very exciting, if you'll pardon the pun, but free], SoundHack [phase vocoding], or the impressive vocoder TDM plug-in by Opcode). Regards Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Re: Tour De Kraft update Date: 16 Feb 1999 20:36:44 -0000 MP3 from the 1981 tour; Trans Europe Express/Metal On Metal - Paris The Cover version is 'Autobahn' done by Balanescu Quartet who return for a while due to popular demand. Mike. Kraftwerk Live 1981 and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) off topic: new address Date: 16 Feb 1999 23:17:18 +0100 sorry to waste bandwidth. i'll be very brief. i changed my ISP months ago, so my old e-mail account and web addresses are no longer valid. new e-mail: jgc@retemail.es with the Aktivitaet Online pages now working, the ones i was maintaining for Ian no longer have sense. perhaps i'll put something together in the near future. i'll also put online soon my kraftwerk records trading page. and last but not least, if there's someone interested in Aviador Dro, nuclear_si is an automated mailing list now working. More details: http://personal5.iddeo.es/ret007en/aviador/redm.htm Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matsk@lhmendez.se Subject: (kw) back in business Date: 17 Feb 1999 13:03:00 +0100 Hello all 'werkers! I just resubscribed to the list after being away for about a year or so. Hope you've been doing OK without my mailings. Regarding my KW-page, "Mats's Kraftwerk Page", I'll upload it again as soon as possible, I only have 5 Mb space though, so I can't have the mp3s any longer. CUL8R! Mats # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ganz allein" Subject: (kw) [off-topic] Roland SH-101 synth for sale Date: 17 Feb 1999 07:03:42 PST To all of you who were interested, please send me your final bids on the grey Roland SH-101 synthesizer I am selling. Thank you ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) mp3 wants Date: 17 Feb 1999 17:19:17 -0000 Hi werkers - I'm looking for MP3 files of: "Neonlicht" "Die Mensch Maschine" "Radioactivity" (Orbit remix / Orbit Hardcore mix) "Tour de France" (French or German 6:30 version) "Mini Calculateur" "Showroom Dummies" (remix) "Robotronik" "Los Maniquies" "Der Telefonanaruf" (remix) "Radiaktivitat" (Kevorkian and Orbit remixes) Does any one have these - I have practically everything else if you want to swap anything. Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) mp3 wants Date: 17 Feb 1999 16:00:43 EST In a message dated 2/17/99 11:24:48 AM Central Standard Time, paulm@intercell.co.uk writes: << "Neonlicht" "Die Mensch Maschine" "Radioactivity" (Orbit remix / Orbit Hardcore mix) "Tour de France" (French or German 6:30 version) "Mini Calculateur" "Showroom Dummies" (remix) "Robotronik" "Los Maniquies" "Der Telefonanaruf" (remix) "Radiaktivitat" (Kevorkian and Orbit remixes) >> try: http://members.xoom.com/kraftwerker/ for tdf stuff later drake # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ade Subject: (kw) Talkbox Date: 17 Feb 1999 22:38:28 -0000 [Ade] you wrote... i don't know, i think roger used a different kind of device called a "voxbox" or a "talkbox" that wasn't entirely a vocoder. it was more primitive than a vocoder, i have schematics and documentation on useage for this device somewhere, i can look it up for sure. all i remember is that there was alot less electrnics involved and more common household items, like plastic tubbing, speaker horns, etc. and Roger had to hold the plastic tube in his mouth while singing, back in the early days and when i saw him recently on Vibe TV Show in US. and let me apologise for mentioning that Peter Frampton also used the "voxbox" on "do you feel like i do" song. this device anyone can build with stuff they probably already have at home. well, you'll have to find a really large speaker horn, (like the kind they use at stadiums) the rest of the stuff is really commonplace. i'll look up the info on this device. lenny g [Ade] Not far off the mark. The 'Talkbox' is an incredibly simple & effective piece of kit that keeps dental hospitals in business. Here's why... A signal is amplified & output through a High frequency driver (say a 1 inch diaghram type tweeter - i.e. only small, not a big driver lenny) coupled to a length of plastic hose that is placed in your mouth. The performer can 'shape' the sound being blasted up the hose by moving their mouth which is how you 'modulate' the talkbox signal. The classic technique is to use guitar as the signal to be modulated & then sing in sympathy with it. So yes, Peter Frampton used it a lot & is a good example of the effect. However, the bad news is that a great deal of use can cause dental problems. Basically, when you use talkboxes the high frequency signals/vibrations that are fed into your mouth rattle your teeth about & after A LOT OF PROLONGED USE you will experience problems. Good eh ?!?!? Ade. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) ny times Date: 17 Feb 1999 22:48:35 EST here is the first paragraph of an article in the ny times feb 17, 99. Go to http://www.nytimes.com to see the whole thing, although it's about the questionable "ghetto tech" style. THE POP LIFE Detroit Dances to a Racy Beat By NEIL STRAUSS One of the great things about pop culture is that every album has the potential to change the face of music -- it just depends on who gets their hands on it, how it influences them and what they do with it. Who would have thought, for example, that what came first to the United States as a 1970's electronic novelty act, the German group Kraftwerk, would play such a prominent role in the development of rap, electro-funk, new wave and techno music. np: Hallucinogen: "Twisted: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) mp3 wants Date: 18 Feb 1999 13:28:20 +0100 > try: > http://members.xoom.com/kraftwerker/ > for tdf stuff > > later > drake Is 404 link! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) Radioactivity question Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:07:40 +0100 > Subject: (kw) Radioactivity question > So, I get it in the mail today and > notice that the new (to me) copy had a slick inner-sleeve for holding the > record. It also had a set of "RADIO-ACTIVITY" stickers that are yellowish > green (...) > Is my version with the soft > paper actually a reprint and the glossy is the original? vice-versa? > please help, so I know which one to sell away! The US first issue of Radioactivity came with the sticker sheet (should be 16). In contrast to the german issue, the US stickers have to be wetted to glue, the german ones are self-adhesive. The inner sleeves are another matter. It is nearly impossible to say which inner sleeve was used on the first pressings - a company like Capitol has many pressing plants, so there may be diferences due to that, also. The US sticker sheet was obviously deleted quite soon as it is rare today. The german pressing was sold with the sticker sheet until the early eighties. Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) ny times Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:28:04 EST In a message dated 2/17/99 11:14:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tom807@aol.com writes: << here is the first paragraph of an article in the ny times feb 17, 99. Go to http://www.nytimes.com to see the whole thing, although it's about the questionable "ghetto tech" style. THE POP LIFE Detroit Dances to a Racy Beat By NEIL STRAUSS One of the great things about pop culture is that every album has the potential to change the face of music -- it just depends on who gets their hands on it, how it influences them and what they do with it. Who would have thought, for example, that what came first to the United States as a 1970's electronic novelty act, the German group Kraftwerk, would play such a prominent role in the development of rap, electro-funk, new wave and techno music. np: Hallucinogen: "Twisted: >> sorry -- http://www.nytimes.com is the correct address # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lux, Kevin" Subject: (kw) Re: Kraftwelt Date: 18 Feb 1999 09:27:35 -0600 > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:16:24 -0700 (MST) > From: Ra > Subject: Re: (kw) Question > > On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Daniel Bailey wrote: > > > I have been lent a CD buy my girlfriends brother that is called, > > "KRAFTWELT - Electric Dimension", it has a date of 1996 and all songs are > > written by, Oldenborg, Christinsen, Gylsen and Schmidt. Does anybody know > > who this is ? if so please fill me. > > It's a group that pays tribute to Kraftwerk. Kraftwelt has three albums > out that I know of - Electric Dimension, Deranged in Space, and Retroish. > All three are marked "Dedicated to Ralf & Florian". > > I wish I knew more about them. > > /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs Greetings all: Very occasionally I talk to Johnnie of Kraftwelt, they are 3 guys in their mid 20's based out of Copenhagen, Denmark. They do not have a website but I am trying to encourage them to do so, as it would broaden their exposure, at least for the internet users..I kind of got talking to them when submitting some of my material to them.. ;) Hope this helps, Kevin Lux Future Lounge is coming.. http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com free .mp3 at: http:///www.mp3.com/kevinlux/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ctzero@aol.com Subject: (kw) Question about Florian Date: 18 Feb 1999 23:15:29 EST Hi everyone! Does anyone know what Florian really does on stage during the concerts? On the 1998 tour, he turned a couple of dials and wrote in his folder throughout the shows. Most of the time he stands motionless on stage. Ralf sings and plays keyboards, and Henning and Fritz also play keyboards and have several switches and dials. It seems like a waste of precious manpower. Or is there something I have missed? David M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Vocoder Date: 19 Feb 1999 13:03:44 +0100 Hi-diddley-ho, Professor John Frink's latest invention is called Frink-a-Tone 2000 Computer Systems Voice Translator... ;-) BTW, there is a discotheque in Rotterdam (Holland) called NightTown which logo is pretty close to the Radioactivity's one. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Vocoder Date: 19 Feb 1999 15:33:07 +0100 Der automato wrote: BTW, there is a discotheque in Rotterdam (Holland) called NightTown which logo is pretty close to the Radioactivity's one=2E You don't say, I saw the same logo on a Swedish Nuclear power plant=2E -Isn't that a coincident? /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Electric Music Discographic Question Date: 19 Mar 1999 17:24:15 +0000 I was told that the Electric Music promo CD single "Sunshine" has the following tracklisting: - Sunshine (Single Mix) - Sunshine (Acoustic Mix) - Sunshine (Dream Mix) - Sunshine (Electro Mix) The last three tracks are also available as bonus tracks on the Japanese edition of the "Electric Music" album, but it seems that the "Single Mix" is only featured on the promo single. Is anybody able to confirm? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Dinger / Kranemann News Date: 19 Mar 1999 17:24:15 +0000 New Dingerland CD releases on the Captain Trip label: 1-A Duesseldorf: Fettleber (CTCD-160) (Thomas Dinger, Nils Kristiansen) Tracklisting: 1. Overtuere 4:45" 2. Olala 7:10" 3. Lacomio 5:17" 4. Rock 9:53" 5. Gibsen 5:43 6. Gevogeltes 5:30" 7. Led Fett 5:30" 8. Fettleber 7:54" 9. Kostprobe 3 "Fuer Katze Agnes" Welker Brokkoli 5:40" Klaus Dinger gets a mention in the credits. 2. Bluepoint Underground: Bluepoint Underground in New York City (CTCD-161) (Eberhard Kranemann, Caroline Keufen, Oliver Blum) Tracklisting: 1. Remember 7:26" 2. Fin fond (the very bottom) 4:01" 3. Conny Plank 6:57" 4. Love me or leave me 5:433" 5. Das Ich ist ein Resultat von Programmierungen (the Ego is a result of programming 17:30" 6. Universe in man 2:10" 7. Cloning 6:33" 8. Bluepoint Underground in New York City 12:32" The liner notes state that the music is "a spontaneous sound-and-word-collage, performed by Bluepoint Underground at Klaus Dingers Lilienthal-studio in Duesseldorf/Germany, based on the mixed media performance 'Bluepoint Underground in New York City', performed at the Von-der-Heydt-Museum, Wuppertal/Germany, 1998." WWW address: http://home.wtal.de/crossovermedia/ Klaus Dinger is co-credited for production, recording, mixing and mastering. There is also an interview with Klaus Dinger in issue 89 of the Dutch Fanzine KLEM, in which he mentions that his "most relaxed period" was his Kraftwerk period, where he made first experiences with LSD. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark weddle Subject: (kw) David Byrne Date: 20 Feb 1999 23:53:11 Did anyone happen to catch Session at West 54th tonight? It's a U.S. tv show on PBS, web page at: http://www.sessionsatwest54th.com/ David Byrne (ex-Talking Heads) is the host. I was surfing channels when I happened upon Byrne performing an impressive cover of "The Model" with the Balanescu Quartet. Byrne did the vocals via a headset microphone (while doing a goofy model like dance) and the band consisted of violin, stand-up bass, theremin, cello and percussion players. The cover was very organic and true to the original. Hopefully the performance will be re-run someday, possibly on 1 of the 'best of sessions' shows in March ... markw@southwind.net http://www2.southwind.net/~markw/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: (kw) Doepfer A-100 Synth Date: 21 Feb 1999 07:30:59 -0500 Slightly off topic. In addition to a Microwave XT, I am strongly considering the purchase of a Doepfer A-100 Modular Synth (Mini version). Just wondering if anyone here owns or has had any experience with this Doepfer product. Please send all replies: jtalbert@ameritech.net Thanks. -John __________________________________________________________________ the electronic music of efofex - "let the boundaries be broken..." http://efofex.simplenet.com new album track preview! http://efofex.simplenet.com/unreleased.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Gonzalez" Subject: (kw) space night IV Date: 21 Feb 1999 13:30:48 +0000 Hi, i've been some months away and i don't know if you've heard of "Space Night IV" double CD compilation. It includes remixes of Anthony Rother (Numbers/Computer World) and others original tracks (Fortunato & Montresor...) All the tracks are very near to KW sounds... cya, -Jose STAR WARS: The 3D Modeling Alliance http://www.surfthe.net/swma/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Morgan" Subject: (kw) divine comody kraftwerk cover Date: 21 Feb 1999 15:55:42 -0000 Just to let you folks know that the recent Divine Comedy cd single that is currently in the charts contains a rather bizarre cover of radioactivity by kraftwerk as the third track. The track includes both English and German lyrics and is a very slow acoustic version with rather over reverbed piano. Interesting but all the same rather awful ! a sort of Smiths meet Kraftwerk type of sound. Mind you its better than the main track on the cd single.... its no. 29 in the UK charts at the moment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) News on my MP3 page http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Date: 22 Feb 1999 07:57:07 +0100 (CET) Hi, This week: Kraftwerk It's more fun to compute (Live Japan 9/7/81) Trans Europa Express (7" version) [2nd and last posting on my MP3 page, don't ask for it afterward!] Tour de France (french 7") [Same comment as above] Tour de France (Instrumental) [Same comment as above] Numbers (1981 7" Remix) [Same comment as above] Der Telefon Anruf (7" version) [Same comment as above] btw, I'm searching for the following KW rarities: The following tracks in 7" version : Trans Europe Express / the Rovots / Die Robotter / Neon Lights / Neonlichts / Pocket Calculator / Computerlove (if it exists) / Tour de France (in German) / Musique Nonstop. And the following 12" versions: Computerworld / Tour de France (German) / The Telephone Call / Der Telefon Anruf I'm also searching for rare live material from 1973-77 + any great rarities you want to share in MP3. ok... Sorry to post this wishlist here but since I spend many hours each week to upload MP3's at 3.6 KB/s I thought I could post once my KW Wishlist. See you next week for more MP3's... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matsk@lhmendez.se Subject: (kw) New KW-page! Date: 22 Feb 1999 10:39:12 +0100 Hello all 'werkers! Mats's Kraftwerk Page has now been re-started at a new URL: http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk I have also done a completely new design. A total of 129 files have been uploaded during last weekend and I will do more updates during the week. Please send me comments....I would also like to know which mp3s you would like me to add (except for them suggested by bonald). I'll do mp3s of the most wanted songs that I have. CUL8R! Mats # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) Question about Florian Date: 22 Feb 1999 09:03:34 -0500 Hi everyone! Does anyone know what Florian really does on stage during the concerts? On the 1998 tour, he turned a couple of dials and wrote in his folder throughout the shows. It seems like a waste of precious manpower. Or is there something I have missed? Well, I'll take a shot at this one. Yah, what you've missed is the "concept". We could go around all day debating exactly WHAT it is Florian, (or Kraftwerk) are trying to get at. Any band that would send robots onto the stage to play their parts obviously has something to say about technology, while perhaps playing with our conception of what it is "pop musicians" "should" do while they're performing, Face it, all but the most "garage" oriented bands of today are basically putting on a show. The most ballistic metal band or hardcore band, or any kind of band really is PERFORMING. I may be totally cynical, but I don't really anybody in a large concert today is being honest. It is entertainment, and what you get is pre recorded music, or a keyboard player off to the side (like for the stones, or aerosmith) that fills in all the stuff the band just can't hack live. You don't want to have the audience shell out a ton of cash only to catch you on an off night. What to do? Make sure you NEVER have an off night. I think it is rather funny that Kraftwerk would have, or Florian would choose to be on stage and yet not obviously doing much of anything. Let the machines take care of it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Feb 1999 18:36:20 +0100 >... topless pictures of Lene the vocalist of Aqua. Thus another one in that >game of connecting Kraftwerk and Aqua.... True! And I recently realised how much Metallica has in common with Beethoven - both names contains both an e and a t - isn't that fantastic! I mean - come on. How could you ever find a link between Aqua and kw, except for that both groups has carbon-based members... ;) /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Feb 1999 12:06:47 -0600 Svensson, Joakim wrote: > >... topless pictures of Lene the vocalist of Aqua. Thus another one in that > >game of connecting Kraftwerk and Aqua.... > > True! And I recently realised how much Metallica has in common with > Beethoven - both names contains both an e and a t - isn't that fantastic! > > I mean - come on. How could you ever find a link between Aqua and kw, except > for that both groups has carbon-based members... ;) Kraftwerk has inspired everyone. For example, the restaurant chain "Hooters" borrowed their name from Ralf Hutter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nitrous@home.com Subject: Re: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Feb 1999 13:25:31 -0500 bvonmoss wrote. > > Kraftwerk has inspired everyone. For example, the restaurant chain "Hooters" > borrowed their name from Ralf Hutter. > Ralfs father went to a different high school than john lennons father. Coincedence? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Question about Florian Date: 22 Feb 1999 14:03:41 EST In a message dated 22/02/99 14:08:58 GMT, you write: << Does anyone know what Florian really does on stage during the concerts? On the 1998 tour, he turned a couple of dials and wrote in his folder throughout the shows. >> he writes out backstage passes to give to girls in the front row who aren't robot. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Raistrick" Subject: RE: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Feb 1999 19:05:30 -0000 yes , yes , i know we're all desperate for real news but even so .. weak jokes?! chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Feb 1999 14:06:42 EST In a message dated 22/02/99 17:45:15 GMT, you write: << carbon-based members... ;) >> Going back to the backstage passes: Florian's carbon-based member is the only one that can be verified. I think Ralf's member is conceptual and not manifest. >8^D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sid Vicious mk II" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk siegt! Date: 22 Feb 1999 08:21:10 CET Where can I find R+F on cd in Holland? Anybody got any latest news on Kraftwerk? And what about the new 2cd (bootleg?) compilation of Kraftwerk and Organisation.... Oh, and which countries actually appreciate Kraftwerk, as they weren't too hot in my own country (UK) and definitely not here in NL, but yet commercial shit like Spice Girls and stuff is... Greets :o)<-< Matt gb_not_eu@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: RE: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Feb 1999 14:12:46 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Svensson, Joakim wrote: > I mean - come on. How could you ever find a link between Aqua and kw, except > for that both groups has carbon-based members... ;) And here I thought that Ralf & Florian were silicon-based. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer A-100 Synth Date: 21 Feb 1999 21:49:24 -0500 -----Original Message----- >Slightly off topic. But worth a chuckle... >In addition to a Microwave XT You know how to convert an XT into a microwave??? This I HAVE to see! Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) The Model Date: 24 Feb 1999 14:22:24 +0100 Svensson, Joakim wrote: >How could you ever find a link between Aqua and kw, >except for that both groups has carbon-based members... ;) How do you (and all of us in general) know that they are really carbon-based? They can be silicon-based or any other material. ;-) Since they said "We are the robots" they have to be acrylic-based. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Struktur Non Stop Date: 24 Feb 1999 15:41:17 +0100 Do anyone of you know a band called Musik Struktur from Germany that they have made a track with the "Don't Stop Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa base which it's included in the Oddworld videogame sountrack? How is the title of this song? TIA. Besides it exists another band called Musik Non Stop who has released an 3 CD set titled Musik Non Stop. Record Label: Hypnotic Release Date: 11/05/96 Catalog Number: 9786 Track Listing: 1. A Touch Of Heaven 2. Xodation Trance 3. Wave Access 4. Look At The Sky (x-tended) 5. Loulou 6. Artificial Dream 7. Magic 8. Enjoy This Trip (expand Your Mind Mix) 9. Isis (lazy Dog Mix) 10. Lotus Trance Ii 11. Return Of The Homeraver 12. Get Up (pascal F.e.o.s. Remix) 13. Eternal Sleep 14. Fake 15. Plastic 16. Destination (trance Mix) 17. Hubert 18. Broaden Your Mind 19. Wondermission 20. Open Your Eyes 21. Blitz 22. The Dreamer (human Mix) 23. Set Up 24. Semi Analogue 25. Trancemission 26. Raveaktiv 27. Slaves 28. Feels Good (12 Inch Mix) 29. Don't Stop The Motion (e-motion Mix) 30. H-music (deep Mix) 31. Hypnotized 32. Splits The Atom DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damir Hlobik Subject: (kw) xxx Date: 24 Feb 1999 15:46:47 +0100 i've noticed that every power plant in germany is called kraftwerk. what'a influence!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: (kw) xxx Date: 24 Feb 1999 10:13:28 -0500 >i've noticed that every power plant in germany is called kraftwerk. >what'a influence!!! That reminds me...I have the GEMA CD of KW1. Knowing that some German doesn't exactly correspond to English (for example, Spule can mean spool, coil or bobbin depending on context), on the inside cover there is a picture of a large oil-filled transformer. This would be mounted outdoors in a fenced in area (apparently the same in both countries) and the resulting site would be called a substation. In the US anyway, a power plant would be where the electricity is actually generated. Would Kraftwerk refer to a substation or where the power is actually generated, or either? Bill Dobiesz Warren (Detroit) Michigan, USA np: Billy Preston - Log Cabin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Raistrick" Subject: (kw) var Date: 24 Feb 1999 16:51:46 -0000 for whatever reason the virgin encyclopaedia of rock and pop -or whatever it's called, i didn't buy it -says that kraftwerk's second album is called "var".just thought someone out there might like to know...in the usual absence of real news. chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) xxx Date: 24 Feb 1999 20:21:56 +0100 > That reminds me...I have the GEMA CD of KW1. Knowing that some German > doesn't exactly correspond to English (for example, Spule can mean spool, > coil or bobbin depending on context), on the inside cover there is a > picture of a large oil-filled transformer. This would be mounted outdoors > in a fenced in area (apparently the same in both countries) and the > resulting site would be called a substation. In the US anyway, a power > plant would be where the electricity is actually generated. > > Would Kraftwerk refer to a substation or where the power is actually > generated, or either? > > Bill Dobiesz > Warren (Detroit) Michigan, USA > np: Billy Preston - Log Cabin Like, do we care... -- "I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell..." Captain Blackadder, Blackadder Goes Forth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Raistrick" Subject: RE: (kw) var Date: 24 Feb 1999 19:48:15 -0000 er , yes , i think we knew that .... chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Stann Subject: (kw) Florian's haircut Date: 24 Feb 1999 14:02:16 -0600 So,=20 Since we have so many THINGS to discuss that are related to = Kraftwerk.... how about Florian's haircut. If had hair, would he comb = it to the left, or to the right? Would he dye it blond? Kraftwerk - powerplant, powerstation I have been aware of the translation for sometime, since I first heard = KW - about 1977. It helps knowing some German. Oh, and we do care what = Kraftwerk REALLY means. Knowing the true meaning behind the band's name = is the key to understanding their music. I think it's just = 'powerstation.' SOMEBODY HELP!! Now for an MP3 treat - you'll be glad you read all the way through. = Using the HOTBOT MP3 search engine I was able to locate the early KW = stuff in MP3 format. YEEEESSS! It'll make you wish for a faster = Internet connection. just click away to http://www.isolation.la.ca.us/kraftwerk/ I also found a MANTRONIX cut, which shamelessly rips off some KW samples = and beats. But it sounds so GOOD! For you early RAP aficionados, = MANTRONIX had a huge hit with their first album "THE CASSETTE", which = was somewhat industrial in nature - came out in 1985. This cut is from = a later album, and has no RAP lyrics, preserving the KW sound. Sincerely, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) Florian's haircut Date: 24 Feb 1999 21:25:04 +0100 > I also found a MANTRONIX cut, which shamelessly rips off some KW samples > and beats. But it sounds so GOOD! For you early RAP aficionados, > MANTRONIX had a huge hit with their first album "THE CASSETTE", which was > somewhat industrial in nature - came out in 1985. This cut is from a later > album, and has no RAP lyrics, preserving the KW sound. Thanx for the Kraftwerk-MP3 URL, but what is the site for the Mantronix-MP3-files? MANTRONIX had a huge hit with their first album "THE CASSETTE" "THE CASSETTE"??? Never heard of. OK this is of topic (although many hiphop artists name Kraftwerk as their main influence) but i'm a huge Mantronix-fan. See ya! -- "I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell..." Captain Blackadder, Blackadder Goes Forth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: (kw) MANTRONIX/KRAFTWERK Date: 24 Feb 1999 18:42:25 -0600 This is a global answer to all the emails I have received in response to my MANTRONIX posting earlier today. Here's the link to the song by MANTRONIX which uses heavy KW sampling. The song was done in true great MANTRONIK style. The song is so good, I think all Kraftwerk fans ought to give it a listen. I am a die-hard KRAFTWERKER, and I really like this tune! you can download from http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1381/sound/km_oe.zip Be sure to rename it from ZIP to MP3. Do not try to uncompress this file, it won't work. Did I mention I really like that song? If you are looking for MANTRONIX discography, you will find it at http://www.sandboxmassive.com/mantronix/mantronix.html It features Real Audio clips from THE CASSETTE (THE ALBUM on vinyl) release I mentioned in my earlier posting. As a side note, there's a BEST OF MANTRONIX CD coming out later this year. Sincerely, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) xxx Date: 24 Feb 1999 19:55:51 +0000 At 03:46 PM 2/24/99 +0100, you wrote: > >i've noticed that every power plant in germany is called kraftwerk. >what'a influence!!! allow me to quote a few lines from the Pascal Bussy book on Kraftwerk (pp. 27-28) "After disbanding Organisation, the duo had adopted the name Kraftwerk (literally Power Plant). Apparently, Hutter and Scheider, on a trip to East Germany, had been amused by the names of football teams like Dynamo Dresden. Hutter and Scheider started playing around with imaginary team names of their own with prefixes like Kraftwerk, and thus the name stuck. An added attraction to the name Kraftwerk was that they would actually gain alot of free advertizing. On German roads the power stations (kraftwerks) are indicated by road signs. So, every 100 kms or so you would come accross a sign that indicates to turn off to the kraftwerk. The group were very aware of this extra angle to the appeal of their name." to translate, and those of you living in germany feel free to correct me or Bussy, or whoever a kraftwerk in germany is a gas station where you fill your car with gasoline. and all along the autobahn or any other road there are signs saying "Kraftwerk at Next Exit!" or something like that. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) san fran boot Date: 24 Feb 1999 20:12:01 +0000 i don't know if this bootleg has been reported on the list, i haven't seen it, but i could've missed it. here it is: KRAFTWERK The Warfield Theater Soundboard San Francisco, California - USA June 7, 1998 2 CD by GlobalBelt Productions =A91999, catalog number is GBP 55961-1. (they claim that it was recorded from the theatre's soundboard, i don't know how much truth there is to that, but it's possible, i recorded Ice-T from the soundboard, a month ago when he came to town) Disk 1 Intro / Numbers=20 Computer World=20 Home Computer=20 The Man Machine=20 Tour De France=20 Autobahn=20 The Model=20 Airwaves (Tango)=20 Disk 2 Radioactivity=20 Trans Europe Express / Abzug / Metal On Metal=20 Pocket Calculator=20 The Robots / Robotnik=20 Tribal=20 Music Non Stop=20 here you can see the front and back cover http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/2145/Warfield1.jpg http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cafe/2145/Warfield2.jpg lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) topic off Date: 24 Feb 1999 20:22:38 +0000 these really have nothing to do with kraftwerk, but they are really strange sites, i have not seen stranger, so i thought these might be more fun than cracking jokes at ignorant people, and you might enjoy these. well, some of these sites have kraftwerkian sounds and graphics. http://www.hampsterdance.com/ www.futile.com Superbad: www.superbad.com/ Friendchip: www.friendchip.demon.co.uk/ Origami: www.io360.com/v2/ or www.io360.com/v2/yo/ Hotwired: www.hotwired.com/ Day Dream: www.day-dream.com/ Languid: www.languid.com/ www.pimpadelicwonderland.com/ lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nitrous@home.com Subject: Re: (kw) topic off Date: 24 Feb 1999 20:27:58 -0500 LOL, That was funny ~~ 47 wrote: > > these really have nothing to do with kraftwerk, but they are really strange > sites, i have not seen stranger, so i thought these might be more fun than > cracking jokes at ignorant people, and you might enjoy these. well, some of > these sites have kraftwerkian sounds and graphics. > > http://www.hampsterdance.com/ > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) xxx Date: 24 Feb 1999 21:55:11 +0100 On 24-Feb-99 A.D., Bill Dobiesz carved the following runes about "Fw: (kw) xxx": > Would Kraftwerk refer to a substation or where the power is actually > generated, or either? The latter. -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Herbert Stocker HSH[1126]" Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) xxx Date: 03 Jan 1999 03:02:09 +0100 (CET) On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Bill Dobiesz wrote: > > >i've noticed that every power plant in germany is called kraftwerk. > >what'a influence!!! > > > That reminds me...I have the GEMA CD of KW1. Knowing that some German > doesn't exactly correspond to English (for example, Spule can mean spool, > coil or bobbin depending on context), on the inside cover there is a > picture of a large oil-filled transformer. This would be mounted outdoors > in a fenced in area (apparently the same in both countries) and the > resulting site would be called a substation. In the US anyway, a power > plant would be where the electricity is actually generated. > > Would Kraftwerk refer to a substation or where the power is actually > generated, or either? > Hello, i'm a German so I can tell you. "Kraftwerk" means where the electrical power is actually generated. Hell -- hell (Herbert Stocker) : mailto:hell@stusta.mhn.de \ Hell is also \ http://hell.hsh.stusta.mhn.de \ my NickName \ goto:D->MUC->StuSta->HSH[1126] \ in RealLive. \ : # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damir Hlobik Subject: (kw) xxx Date: 25 Feb 1999 08:36:44 +0100 yesterday i sent a message "i've noticed that every power plant in germany is called kraftwerk.what'a influence!!!". today, when i turned on my pc and opened mail, i was pretty shocked with amount of nice persons who tried to explain me the meaning of word kraftwerk. dear friends, i bought autobahn when i was 15 and it was 25 years ago, meaning i realy know what does it mean!!!!!!!!!! i was just trying to make a joke upon some people who obviously lost any sence of reality. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: (kw) Re: KW & Mantronix Date: 24 Feb 1999 17:35:50 -0500 >>> MANTRONIX had a huge hit with their first album "THE CASSETTE" <<< >>> "THE CASSETTE"??? Never heard of. OK this is of topic (although many hip-hop artists name Kraftwerk as their main influence) but i'm a huge Mantronix fan. <<< It depends on what format you bought the album. On vinyl, it was called "The Album." The cuts that compromised this album were tacked on to the CD version of their second album, "Music Madness." Both were released on the now-sadly defunct Sleeping Bag label. BTW, has anyone heard the Steve Reich remix album yet? Which piece of Reich's would R&F have chosen, and what would they have done to it? Mantronik remixed "Drumming." Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) xxx Date: 25 Feb 1999 09:42:43 +0000 > allow me to quote a few lines from the Pascal Bussy book on Kraftwerk (pp. > 27-28) > "After disbanding Organisation, the duo had adopted the name Kraftwerk > (literally Power Plant). Apparently, Hutter and Scheider, on a trip to > East Germany, had been amused by the names of football teams like Dynamo > Dresden. Hutter and Scheider started playing around with imaginary team > names of their own with prefixes like Kraftwerk, and thus the name stuck. > An added attraction to the name Kraftwerk was that they would actually gain > alot of free advertizing. On German roads the power stations (kraftwerks) > are indicated by road signs. So, every 100 kms or so you would come > accross a sign that indicates to turn off to the kraftwerk. The group were > very aware of this extra angle to the appeal of their name." Unlikely. Some Kraftwerke may be indicated by road signs on supraregional roads in Germany, but that would be rather the exception than the rule, so it's possible that Bussy has made up the whole story (or at least parts of it). > to translate, and those of you living in germany feel free to > correct me or Bussy, or whoever > a kraftwerk in germany is a gas station where you fill your car with > gasoline. and all along the autobahn or any other road there are signs > saying "Kraftwerk at Next Exit!" or something like that. No, the german word for gas station is "Tankstelle". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matsk@lhmendez.se Subject: (kw) mp3s Date: 25 Feb 1999 10:08:02 +0100 Guten Morgen! I've added a sounds page with the following mp3s: Metropolis live Utrecht 10.12.81 Computerwelt 12"-mix Tour de France [in German] 12"-mix Radioaktivit=E4t [Orbit] 7"-mix Musique non stop [Kevorkian] 7"-mix They are about 1-3 megabytes each, which means good quality on computer= speakers, but not too good on 'proper' music equipment. The URL is: http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk Mats np! Mandroid:Electro Freaks Rehab Clinic (BAH8 CD, Breakin' Records) = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?From_D=FCsseldorf...?= Date: 25 Feb 1999 12:55:54 +0100 The Swedish newspaper "Arbetet Nyheterna" had an article About Tim Barrs "F= rom=20 D=FCsseldorf=2E=2E=2E" this Sunday, You can read it on-line at: http://www=2EArbetet=2Ese/kultur/ramkultur=2Ehtml In the paper edition there's a picture of the robots=2E maybe someone could work on a translation, otherwise I cold do it, but I ca= n't=20 right now=2E The article is more about Kraftwerk than about the book=2E Regards/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: (kw) ToAllOurRussianFriends Date: 25 Feb 1999 04:16:10 PST Hello First i=B4d like to apologize for the off-topicness of this posting. -But since i understand that some of you live in Russia i would like to=20 try this anyway. What i want is to know if someone outhere has got an old russian=20 synthesizer called "POLIVOKS", for sale, or perhaps knows somebody who=20 does. If so, mail me instantly (and privately) cause i got to have one. Thanks in advance, Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Abzug Eins" Subject: (kw) What??? Date: 25 Feb 1999 05:55:28 PST >a kraftwerk in germany is a gas station where you fill your car with >gasoline. and all along the autobahn or any other road there are >signs saying "Kraftwerk at Next Exit!" or something like that. >lenny g Oh God!! It's getting worst!!!! Abzug ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) xxx Date: 25 Feb 1999 23:55:55 +0000 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > >> allow me to quote a few lines from the Pascal Bussy book on Kraftwerk (pp. >> 27-28) >> On German roads the power stations (kraftwerks) >> are indicated by road signs. So, every 100 kms or so you would come >> accross a sign that indicates to turn off to the kraftwerk. The group were >> very aware of this extra angle to the appeal of their name." > >Unlikely. Some Kraftwerke may be indicated by road signs on >supraregional roads in Germany, but that would be rather the >exception than the rule, so it's possible that Bussy has made up the >whole story (or at least parts of it). Bussy credits this story to an interview with Bartos, so i don't know how much truth there is to it, since Bartos was not in the band when Kraftwerk was formed. but it is a nice story... > > "Kraftwerk at Next Exit!" or something like that. > >No, the german word for gas station is "Tankstelle". cool, i did not know that, i guess that sort of contradicts the Bartos/Bussy story. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) What??? Date: 26 Feb 1999 01:01:36 +0000 At 05:55 AM 2/25/99 -0800, you wrote: > >>a kraftwerk in germany is a gas station where you fill your car with >>gasoline. and all along the autobahn or any other road there are >>signs saying "Kraftwerk at Next Exit!" or something like that. > >>lenny g > > >Oh God!! > >It's getting worst!!!! > > >Abzug no, it's getting retarded, and kinda funny, i think the reason Ralf and Florian have not done a new album in such a long time is because they are secretly subscribed to this list and spend their days and nights reading the volumes of our indescribable lunacy, and laughing their asses off. and i'll save the next guy the trouble who would say "they would never do that, they strictly adhere to their minimalist regime". and the next guy who says "R+F are a pair of cool cats who go clubbing and drink beer, you call that minimalist" and so on and so fourth. you were right, i was talking out of my ass "kraftwerks are gas stations" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. the only thing i know how to say in German is "Schweizer Halls Bon-Bons Kirschen Minze", and i got that from a Ricolla candy wrapper. Thank you Klaus for keeping sanity and reason alive on this list for the rest of us. and the guy who has BlackAdder quote in his sig., (i forgot your name, sorry) that's pretty cool, i like BlackAdder too. i think it's one of the most hillarious comedies ever. amazingly enough i saw it on tv here in US, all 4 series 24 episodes. so since all of us here have known kraftwerk for at least ten years, and most of us for twenty plus years, lets stop our insane babbling and let Ralf and Florian get back to work. oh yeah, and if you are planning to respond to this one, please do, cause it's a joke! lenny g p.s. one time i was at a record store and i came accross a kraftwerk album which i have never seen before. it was called "Blue Flowers in Heaven" and had clouds and blue flowers on the cover. i bought it and found out there was only one copy of it in the world, and it made everyone i knew really jealous of me. and then i woke up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) What??? Date: 26 Feb 1999 03:06:02 +0500 On 26-Feb-99, 47 wrote: >i think the reason Ralf and Florian have not done a new album in such a >long time is because they are secretly subscribed to this list and spend >their days and nights reading the volumes of our indescribable lunacy, and >laughing their asses off. I think they have a taste for lunacy... :-) >p.s. one time i was at a record store and i came accross a kraftwerk album >which i have never seen before. it was called "Blue Flowers in Heaven" and >had clouds and blue flowers on the cover. i bought it and found out there >was only one copy of it in the world, and it made everyone i knew really >jealous of me. and then i woke up. I bought one called 'Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr Gut' (a compilation) and no one has been able to tell me a dang thing about it for years. I did an Internet search for info, and I only got two references (one quoting the lyrics, one offering the LP for sale). The record label that supposedly put it out (Das Buro) doesn't list it in their catalog, but not to worry-- if you've ever tuned up a synthesizer, you know what the 'Kraftwerk' bits sound like... :-) I've mentioned this album on the list several times but have always drawn a blank, so I'm going to e-mail Das Buro as soon as I finish this letter and find out if they know anything about this album. BTW, what does 'Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr Gut' mean? 'All's Well That Ends Well?' The album cover shows a bunch of mummified corpses sitting at a table... (brrrrr... ) -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bill Dobiesz" Subject: Fw: (kw) What??? Date: 26 Feb 1999 12:32:04 -0500 >Oh God!! > >It's getting worst!!!! No, not yet. I can IMAGINE worse ones, but fot the benefit of the list, I'll let someone else post them (lest I be chastised). Bill np: Ron Holden - Love You So # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Gross Subject: (kw) False alarm Date: 26 Feb 1999 12:01:14 -0500 I heard from AtaTak about 'Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr Gut': here's the info... Dear Chris, The LP you are talking about is all made by Xao Seffcheque, an austrian artist and musician. None of the bands mentioned on the record where involved. Maybe some overdubs where made by his friends from the band "Family 5". So thats why he had to call this a "parody", because some of the musicians from the other band got upset when the record came out. Best wishes Susie M. / Ata Tak So there's no lost KW material on the album after all... :-( Still, it's = fun to listen to. ____________ Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility/ Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Mailing Lists Date: 27 Feb 1999 09:47:23 +0100 >Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a >light bulb? > >A: 1,343 No. Really 1344. 1 to say the influences of changing the light bulb. ;-) DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) records for trade Date: 27 Feb 1999 19:56:03 +0100 hello, my pages with lists of Kraftwerk records, vinyl, for trade are now at: http://personal5.iddeo.es/ret007en/personal/kwtrade.htm Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mauricio Gonzalez Subject: (kw) Argentina Concert Report.Better late than Never Date: 28 Feb 1999 18:58:41 -0400 Hi werkers, Yeah, Better late than Never, Finally I achieved to continue working in the Argentina concert report. I have put in this, many photos of the Argentina concert! Now, the page is in Spanish, but I working in the English version, and Recording some MP3 files of the German song my page is totally new, maybe has some defects that I will repair, furthermore will go growing in the future Enjoy it ! http://members.xoom.com/werker/ Regards Mauricio Gonzalez # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) techno-pop Date: 28 Feb 1999 23:39:53 +0100 Does anybody know when was first used the term techno-pop to classify or describe a music? I have an interview with a group, published in March 1980, that uses this term, but I don't know if this is the first time it was used. Any help will be appreciated. Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/