From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Rockdelux 162 Date: 30 Apr 1999 17:58:32 +0200 Number 162 (April 1999) of the Spanish music magazine Rockdelux has the generic title "The Robots" dedicated to Kraftwerk. I've translated the accompanying text (I really apologize for my bad English): "Players: Kraftwerk. Authors: Ralph (sic) Huetter, Florian Schneider and Karl Bartos. Released year: 1978. Label: EMI. Album: Die Mensch-Maschine / The Man Machine. Like all the lyrics of Kraftwerk songs, the one of The Robots (Die Roboter in the German edition) is very simple and stupid, but simultaneously misteriously complex and premonitory. "We are the Robots. Programmed to only do what you order to us" (sic!). An ode to the new mechanizer process of the postindustrial society, a simple establishment of the every time greater dependency (and subsequent mutual assimilation) of the man towards the machine that at the gateway of the 21st century has been revealed as a undeniable truth. The household-electric appliances, the computer and the television aren't isolated objects, but appendices of the present man. Kraftwerk, apostles of the biotechnological gear, inaugurated one of their masterpieces with the repetitive rhythm --martial and precise like the cadence of rotation of an axis-- of this song is worth reason why it is and reason why it would follow it, beginning point of the electronic pop, in all of its ramifications, such as we understand it today, and at few moments surpassed. And it's that as the time advances, every time is more difficult to feel that nostalgia of the future (possible contradiction) that the androids of Duesseldorf cried like nobody." DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Sala de los Mudos Date: 01 May 1999 10:44:29 +0200 Founded at Music Non Stop Sales List: LP "Trans Europe Express" (ARGENTINA) PROMO CAPITOL SW1-11603. Promo copy includes picture insert and 2 page band biography! All titles in Spanish "Sala de los Mudos" (Showroom Dummies) etc. =A330.00UKP ;-D The person who translated this surely confused the word Dummies with Dumbs. The correct translation of 'Dummies' to Spanish is 'Maniquies'. In fact there is a small problem with the translation for Showroom Dummies. In Spanish it would be 'Maniquies de pasarela' or also 'Maniquies de escaparate' (Shopwindow Dummies) or 'Maniquies de exposicion' (Showcase Dummies). But the literal translation would be 'Maniquies de sala de muestras'. BTW. Does anybody know the following compilation? CD "Arbiten Works Oeuvres". Double compilation cd 1991 Capitol Australia p/s. Features Disc 1 Silver Forest / Ruckzuck / Ruckstossgondoliere / Klingklang / Tongebirge / Autobahn / Kometenmelodie 2 Disc 2 Radioaktivit= at / Stimme Der Energie / Antenne / Trans Europa Express / Metal Auf Metal / Die Roboter / Das Model / Die Mensch Maschine / Computerwelt / Taschenrechner / Tour De France (In German !!) / Boing Boom Tschak / Musi= que Non Stop. A collection of old and new =A325.00UKP. Apparently it is published by Capitol Australia!, so is this an official release? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MuSiK" Subject: RE: (kw) New Orbital albym; They will play at SONAR Date: 01 May 1999 14:20:20 +0200 Only to say that Orbital will be in SONAR this year. Same place where KRAFTWERK in the last festival. MuSiK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Brega" Subject: (kw) LINZ-PC.MP3/BARC-NUMB.MP3 Date: 01 May 1999 03:06:58 PDT I'm searching pocket calculator (live in Linz) and numbers (Barcelona) in mp3 format. If someone want to change with something else,contact me at nicolabrega@hotmail.com Thanks in advance ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Orbital+Kraftwerk Date: 30 Jun 1999 12:06:11 +0500 On 30-Apr-99, Nicolau Centola wrote: >them in Brazil... but this is a different song). I can=B4t remember the = name = >of the other one, and this was played just two times (ZKM and Linz) and = is = >not more in KW tracklist. Was that the one referred to as 'Tech Talk?' I liked that one, = and I was sorry they didn't play it on the tour. = That stuttering vocal sound was pretty cool, but the rest = sounded a bit like the theme song to 'I Dream of Jeannie'. = :-) -- = Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Orbital+Kraftwerk Date: 02 May 1999 10:14:21 +0200 >the official site for Orbital is: >http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/ There is also an Orbital website at http://rise.co.uk/orbital >The address www.orbital.co.uk points to a software house. Related, but not >correct... :-) Yes. I'm very sorry if I mislead you. It was unintentional. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Future Music 27 Date: 02 May 1999 10:15:05 +0200 >> Number 27 (May 1999) of the Spanish edition of Future Music magazine >> contains an article at page 77 about vocoders (again) where it's >> named ten classic tracks made with that instrument, surprisingly >> Kraftwerk is not mentioned. >Only for the record... >Can you please tell which ones were the 10 classics according to Future >Music? Willingly. 1. Herbie Hancock "Rockit" 2. Laurie Anderson "O Superman" 3. Snoop Doggy Dogg "What's My Name?" 4. Beastie Boys "Intergalactic" 5. Johnny L "Ooh I Like It" 6. Adam F "Music In My Mind" 7. Appaloosa "Travelling" 8. Daft Punk "Around The World" 9. Fear Of Pop "I Paid My Money" 10. Mrs. Woods "1, 2, 3, 4" DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) "Lifestyle"-Lyriks (question) Date: 02 May 1999 12:39:07 +0200 Hi, I hope someone of you is a phonetic-specialist. Relative to Electric Music's "Livestyle" I have a question. What is the phonetic voice singing after that female voice saying "Life-style". I just understand something like: - Life Style - "shuss an ah'ser harr l'ahging" (english spelling) - Life Style - "stickeling you're talking" Sounds silly, doesn't it ;-) Is anybody able to tell me the correct lyrics ? Thanks Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Zillo on Electronic/Bartos Date: 02 May 1999 13:04:23 +0000 The May issue of the German magazine Zillo features a brief interview with Electronic, including a paragraph about their work with Karl Bartos for the "Raise the Pressure" album. They basically stated that Bartos' production was too polished, and that his classical approach to music didn't harmonize with their Punk approach. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) "Lifestyle"-Lyriks (question) Date: 02 May 1999 13:04:23 +0000 > Relative to Electric Music's "Livestyle" I have a question. What is the phonetic > voice singing after that female voice saying "Life-style". > I just understand something like: > - "shuss an ah'ser harr l'ahging" (english spelling) > - "stickeling you're talking" > Is anybody able to tell me the correct lyrics ? "Just another headline stealing your time." Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Electronic 80's Vol. 1 Date: 02 May 1999 23:08:39 +0000 The new multi-artist CD compilation "Electronic 80's Vol. 1" (Polygram 1999) includes Kraftwerk's "Trans Europa Express". The complete tracklisting is: 1. Sex 2. Smalltown Boy 3. She Blinded Me With Science 4. Things Can Only Get Better 5. Trans Europa Express 6. Lucky Number 7. Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go 8. Fade To Grey 9. Baby's In The Mountians 10. I Love You (quoted from the jpc database at http://www.jpc.de) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric.Schader@gambro.com Subject: RE: (kw) Off- Topic : ZAPP (R.I.P.) Date: 03 May 1999 14:14:09 +0200 Yeah, I heard it through Public Enemy's Enemyboard where it was quite discussed. So sad. Kindest regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 04 May 1999 15:42:12 +0200 "A la Magnetica" (Recordings of Substance) by Magnetic aka Dave Harrow is made with a portable set in hotels, airports and trains, and it leaves an aftertaste more than pleasant to Kraftwerk after its listening. The track "Glaubst Du Mir" is a railway jungle a la Autobahn. "Harsh Life" has melo= dic effects which are pure electro. Next Monday 10 May it will publish in UK the new single by Bj=F6rk "All = Is Full Of Love", which video-clip shows a two-arms machine which assemble a robot with the face of the Icelandic singer, later the machine creates another android, and both move on a syncopated way and the robots end up making love. Smiley from Shut Up & Dance combines kraftwerkian sounds and electro to re-mix "Every Home A Prison", a song including in the new album by Coldcu= t "Let's Us Replay!" (Ninja Tune). By the way, "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa has been remixed recently, han't it? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) kraftwerk I Date: 04 May 1999 09:19:08 -0700 (PDT) A few days ago someone offered the KW I LP for sale. I lost the e-mailadress, so is it possible that the person who offered this LP sends a mail to me (I'm interested in buying it). O yes, some greetings to dj compute. I downloaded the mix containing homecomputer and music non stop. It was really great. Isn't it possible to make a longer version (3' is rather short). Skylined === surf.to/musicpage "Keep it real, keep it Prodigy" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) "Lifestyle"-Lyriks (question) Date: 05 May 1999 10:33:46 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >> Relative to Electric Music's "Livestyle" I have a question. What is the >phonetic >> voice singing after that female voice saying "Life-style". >> I just understand something like: >> - "shuss an ah'ser harr l'ahging" (english spelling) >> - "stickeling you're talking" >> Is anybody able to tell me the correct lyrics ? > >"Just another headline stealing your time." OK. But later it's said "get a new hairstyle", so I think they really say "Just another hairline stealing your time." "aaah, eeeh, brrr, faaa, mmm, laarrr, feuugh, sss, crrr, jouugh,..." Speaking of Elektric Music's lyrics. The television voices samples of "TV" say "und die gewinnsamer Spiel, lautet" and "und das Ganze natuerlich wie immer, ohne Gewehr", is this correct? And in the song Overdrive is the chorus "Underground Overdrive / Below that sound / Overdrive Underground"? Thanks in advance. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 05 May 1999 15:26:13 +0200 >>By the way, "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa has been remixed recently, >>hasn't it? >I have the following CD: >Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force >Don't Stop...Planet Rock >Tommy Boy Music >1. Original Vocal Version - Afrika Bambaataa >2. Bonus Beats - Afrika Bambaataa >3. Classic Mix - Elektric Music >4. In The Pocket Mix - Kupper & Moretta >5. House Mix II - LFO >6. Bass In The Planet Mix - DJ Magic Mike >7. Planet Rock 2000 Mix - 808 State Yes. But this record you mention is from 1992, I have heard Planet Rock has been remixed and published not long ago this year. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Daft Punk - Fritz Hilpert Date: 05 May 1999 16:39:01 +0100 Michel J.Fauza wrote: >Well, these are the "official" lyrics, that i got on www.lyrics.ch (when it >was up): Sounds like as though they're rehashing LFO's 'What is House' (which mentioned Kraftwerk among the list of "pioneers of the hypnotic groove")? Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/30/99 3:23:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >noisewerker@hotmail.com writes: > ><< > Hey !!! What's up ??? I'm looking for any LATINA,MULATTO,NATIVE AMERICAN, or > FRENCH girls who are fans of any of the following artists to chat with, > share common interests, and have possibly a little romance with as well. > Here are the artists: > >> >Id like to hear from them, also!! :) I'm sure you would. K -- Genetically engineered/corrupted Nature: the world ends for a fast buck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Razormaid Date: 06 May 1999 09:41:49 +0200 Founded at http://www.djrhythms.com/db/lb/rm/anv-5.htm >>Kraftwerk 4.2 > "Computerwelt" Medley ...................................... 121.0 Razormaid! Remix / Joseph Watt -BPM info: 121-130 Key: C minor Items in this database are NOT FOR SALE and are NOT AVAILABLE in any form via DJ Rhythms. The information is provided as an historical tabulation of dance music releases with no warranty and may not be error-free.<< Wonder why this record is in a Musicdatabase and it's not for sale and not available. Did really release this record? And who's really Razormaid? And who's Joseph Watt? And what he did? And what record is the following?: Kraftwerk: The Telephone Call 12 inch vinyl: 20627-0 (), year?. > The Telephone Call ......................................... 128.0 DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Servando Carballar's top 5 Date: 06 May 1999 15:14:04 +0200 On Friday 30th April the Spanish newspaper ABC published the Servando Carballar's (leader of Aviador Dro) top 5 of records of forever, in which= he puts "The Man Machine" in the n=BA 1 position. http://andercheran.upv.es/~aviadord/jpgs/abc.jpg Aviador Dro y Sus Obreros Especializados -or Aviador Dro for short-, in their early years (1978-79) did a live version of "The Model", titled "La Modelo", with the lyrics sung in Spanish. This is probably the first cove= r version of that song. Also their songs "Nuclear, si" and "Nuclear siempre= ", and the name of their label DRO (Discos Radioactivos Organizados, Organiz= ed Radioactive Records) are inspired by "Radioactivity" LP. The track "Interzona" by the band from Madrid contains the melody of "The Telephone Call". The song that gives generic title to the album "Trance" (La Fabric= a Magnetica, 1991) evokes the conceptualism of Kraftwerk. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no (Joar Grimstvedt) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk week (almost) Date: 06 May 1999 19:47:35 +0200 Another double on Kraftwerk: The TV programme "Klubb sju" ("Club seven") on NRK 2 (Norway) last Thursday broadcasted the video to Kraftwerk's 'The Model', as that show's "flashback". Kraftwerk videos on Norwegian TV are truly a rare occasion - though in this case the same video was also sent in the same programme a couple of months ago. Then, this Monday on Pop-TV, NRK's version of the "artists choose their favourite videos", the Swedish group Kent had 'Musique Non Stop' as one of their picks. Other videos were by Aphex Twin and Depeche Mode, to mention two. For those interested, the programme will be re-run tomorrow on NRK 1 at 15:30. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.five.no/joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) WOK Date: 06 May 1999 19:59:25 +0200 Hi, For those "wanna-know-everything": Every day on Norwegian NRK radio the = first 4-5 seconds of Computerlove (off The Mix) is played as = introduction of the program "WOK". Jarre forever! (and Kraftwerk) Glenn >>>Jean-Michel Jarre Fanclub Norway >>>Lundgard, 2032 Maura (Norway) Mail to glenn@jmjfkn.com Surf to www.jmjfkn.com Organiser of the international JMJ tribute album Publisher of IMAGES magazine since 1993 JarreArt @ www.itsahit.com/jarreart/ =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk week (almost) Date: 06 May 1999 20:31:12 +0200 Ah.. dammit why haven't we swedes got norweigan television :-) <----------Finarvas----------> <------finarvas@linux.nu-----> <------come.to/finarvas/-----> <------Karl-------Herolf-----> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Betty Swollocks" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 03 May 1999 14:41:41 CEST I bought a bootleg called 'Toccata Electronica', and I was wondering: there's a song called 'zehn kleine negerlein'. It's really cool, but it's got vinyl sounds. there's no info on the CD cover. It also has a sample from Homecomputer. Is this an unreleased track by Kraftwerk, which year is it from and any other info? Matt www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palace/8922 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Orbital Date: 04 May 1999 07:04:51 PDT This site doesn=B4t work more than one year ago. I think it doesn=B4t exist anymore. >the official site for Orbital is: >http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/ There is also an Orbital website at http://rise.co.uk/orbital ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 07 May 1999 10:48:44 +0200 I don't intend to be rude, but: Look in the archives at http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/ The answer to your question is: No, it's not a Kraftwerk track. You'll find more in the archive. /Joakim -----Original Message----- ... a song called 'zehn kleine negerlein'. It's really cool, but it's got vinyl sounds. there's no info on the CD cover. It also has a sample from Homecomputer. Is this an unreleased track by Kraftwerk, which year is it from and any other info?... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: RE: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 07 May 1999 10:55:13 +0100 Svensson, Joakim wrote: >I don't intend to be rude, but: Look in the archives at >http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/ >The answer to your question is: No, it's not a Kraftwerk track. You'll find >more in the archive. I understand your annoyance, Joakim, but it's not IMHO practical any more for people to wade through years of archives before they post... I should, though, definitely add this to the FAQ! Catching up... ;-) KB -- Genetically engineered/corrupted Nature: the world ends for a fast buck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Archives Date: 07 May 1999 12:03:36 +0200 Well, your right: The archives should have a better search-capability. I'd do it myself, if I only had the time... /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...it's not IMHO practical any more for people to wade through years of archives... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 07 May 1999 9:10:29 +0100 Another rerun, here we go again=2E=2E=2E ---------- Sent: fredag 7 maj 1999 02=2E59 <> I bought a bootleg called 'Toccata Electronica', and I was wondering: there's a song called 'zehn kleine negerlein'=2E It's really cool, but it's got vinyl sounds=2E there's no info on the CD cover=2E It also has a sample from Homecomputer=2E Is this an unreleased track by Kraftwerk, which year is it from and any other info? Matt www=2Egeocities=2Ecom/SunsetStrip/Palace/8922 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www=2Ehotmail=2Ecom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom=2E # To post, email kraftwerk@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom; replies go to original sender=2E # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web=2Ebham=2Eac=2Euk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FA= Q/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (kw) Razormaid Date: 07 May 1999 08:04:37 +0200 Razormaid is a DJ remix service that do "Cut and Paste" mixes of all kinds of artist, the use to do a lot of 80ties groups like depeche mode, Erasure, New Order, and Kraftwerk, and loads of lesser known acts. I believe the still have a web-site at www.razormaid.com. BUT - I warn you, Joseph Watt is one paranoid bastard. At the New Order mailing list we had a flame-war between razormaid and the entire list. The only thing we (I) did was to announce that Razormaid were going to make a CD entirely with new Depeche Mode remixes, and one with New Order remixes. This bit of info I got from the Razormaid news-letter, however leaking this to the New Order List pissed J. Watt off - and he threw me off the Razormaid newsletter list, called me all kinds of names - and stated that I was a liear. So beware if you're dealing with them. The reason of this reaction was probably because Razormaid is a DJ only remix service - that can make unauthorized remixes of tracks - as long as they are only sold to genuine DJs only to be played in clubs. I accidentally revealed that they sell their products to anyone that hits their web-site - and they got a bit scared. Anyway they've remixed a few Kraftwerk tracks, and do occasionally sell these semi-legal remixes on various re-releases. Lars > > Founded at http://www.djrhythms.com/db/lb/rm/anv-5.htm > >>Kraftwerk > 4.2 > "Computerwelt" Medley ...................................... 121.0 > Razormaid! Remix / Joseph Watt -BPM info: 121-130 Key: C > > Wonder why this record is in a Musicdatabase and it's not for sale and not > available. Did really release this record? And who's really Razormaid? And > who's Joseph Watt? And what he did? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Gomaespuma Date: 09 May 1999 12:20:21 +0200 Everyday on Spanish M-80 radio the song "Pocket Calculator" (and other ones of Computer World LP) can be heard at the section "La Supernoticia del Dr. System" in the programme Gomaespuma. More info at http://www.edigital.es/gomaespuma DER AUTOMAT ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Razormaid Date: 09 May 1999 10:37:16 +0200 Hi Lars, I must say thank you very very much for the complete info. >Anyway they've remixed a few Kraftwerk tracks, and do occasionally >sell these semi-legal remixes on various re-releases. Just a few more questions. Why if they make unauthorized remixes these are semi-legal remixes?, I'd say these remixes are completely illegal, aren't they? Do you think Joseph Watt remixed the Kraftwerk stuff? Thanks again. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fernando Subject: (kw) Some items for sale Date: 09 May 1999 09:51:15 -0700 hello, I have: highrail LP computerwelt 12in ralf and florian LP (US) tour de france 12in (US) for auction at eBay. here is the link: http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=adrift thanks, fernando -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- Doves circuit the sky, in the room where I woke, I heard them fly, like a rush of blood, into the endless blue... reflected light, trembles on the wall, where Hannah lies ____________________ Dialogue :: And Also The Trees -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: [Fwd: (kw) Razormaid] Date: 09 May 1999 12:25:41 -0500 > Razormaid is a remix collective (much likeArmand Van Helden's X-Mix or DMC) based out of > California. They are most notable known for remixing more euro sounding stuff ranging from early New > Order, Vicious Pink, Front 242 to techno tracks by Moby, Outlander and the JAMs. They don't do > anything "remarkable" by way of remixing, usually just re-editing existing version of the song and > making them a bit more DJ friendly (adding 64 beats at the beginning and end to make it easy to mix > in and out of). The reason that Razormaid records are usually not for sale is because you need to be > a subscriber to the service. Also, most of their stuff is limited edition (the vinyl stuff is > basically out of print). Incidentally, all razormaid vinyl (except for repressings) are on colored > vinyl. > Joseph Watt is the founder of the Razormaid collective. You can check them out at www.razormaid.com. > > Hope that helps. > > Ernie > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Orbital on Kraftwerk Date: 10 May 1999 15:49:09 +0200 Number 96 (March, 19th 1999) of the Spanish magazine El Pais de las Tentaciones contains an interview with Orbital which they say: "We always thought if Kraftwerk could get it in the 70's, why we were not going to get it?". http://www.tentaciones.elpais.es/T/D/19990319/portada/orbital1.htm DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JMJ Fanklubb Norge" Subject: (kw) Man Machine Date: 10 May 1999 20:29:56 +0200 For your records, I browsed my CD collection today and found by accident a CD by Man = Machine. The album title is "Daylight", and has tracks named "Energy", = "Power machine", and "Robot Mastermix". Computer/robot vocals are = featured extensively. Pretty obvious were the inspiration came from, if = you ask me. It was released in 1992 by Hotsound and produced by Erik van Vliet of = LaserDance fame (and the music sounds like LaserDance left-overs too). I'd like to get rid of this CD so if anyone wants to trade.......... Jarre forever! Glenn >>>Jean-Michel Jarre Fanclub Norway >>>Lundgard, 2032 Maura (Norway) Mail to glenn@jmjfkn.com Surf to www.jmjfkn.com Organiser of the international JMJ tribute album Publisher of IMAGES magazine since 1993 JarreArt @ www.itsahit.com/jarreart/ =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colatina Radio Som Ltda <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering "bootleg" Date: 08 May 1999 11:04:03 -0300 Hi. I have Tribal Gathering concert on CD-R (one copy only) This CD-r are available for trade. I accept swap by others itens (Organisation - Tone Float) or Tangerine Dream. Please, send me your offer. Eduardo Monteiro # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: RE: (kw) Tribal Gathering "bootleg" Date: 11 May 1999 08:20:49 -0500 > Hi. > > I have Tribal Gathering concert on CD-R (one copy only) Hmmm... CD-R, "one copy only" Tell me again about the exclusivity of this deal and the ease of burning another CD-R making yet another "one-only" CD-R? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) The Man Date: 11 May 1999 15:53:24 +0200 Founded at http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists/WhitePages/wp_13.html Man, The - influenced by artist such as Depeche Mode, U2, New Order, Electronic, Erasure, Kraftwerk, NIN, Pet Shop Boys, ebtg and others. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/7560/ DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Klaus Dinger / la! NEU? / NEU! / La Duesseldorf news Date: 11 May 1999 16:39:05 +0000 There are two new Klaus Dinger releases out on Captain Trip: a) la! NEU?: Live in Tokyo 1996 Vol. 2 (CTCD-176/177 (la! NEU? 1.000-17/18) CD 1: 1. Intro A: With Nambu on Shinkanzen 0:22" 2. Intro B: Entering On Air West 4:49" 3. Intro C: Tension 6:10" 4. Viva 14:13" 5. Hero 96 23:03" CD 2: 1. Free in Tokyo A: East West Special 22:28" 2. Free in Tokyo B: Anti-Rapman 3:05" 3. Free in Tokyo C: Message from California 12:22" 4. Free in Tokyo D: Rheinarita 3:45" 5. Mayday 11:03" 6. America 11:53" This "Vol. 2" actually appears to be the first part of the show, the earlier released "Vol. 1" seems to be part 2. According to the credits, it seems that Dinger is currently "preparing a new tour in 2000!". b) la! NEU?: Blue (la Duesseldorf 5) (CDTC-178 (la! NEU? 1.000-19) 1. Arms Control Blues 7:04" 2. Blue 4:42" 3. Lilienthal 4:43" 4. Touch you tonight 2:18" 5. Fuer Omi (For Granny) 2:10" 6. America 17:51" Some additional info from the credits, (hand-)written by Klaus Dinger: " Performed, recorded + produced by KD [...] between 1984 + 1986. Mixed 1987 + remastered 1999 [...]. When Udo Lange (still head of Virgin/Germany + current partner of an alliance led by Daniel Miller/Mute Records, which is trying to get the NEU! classics) rejected this album in 1987 [...], which under normal circumstances would have been released as "la Duesseldorf 5" or "5 Pearls + a Hammer", it became totally clear to me, that this American dominated business did not tolerate a "hammer" like "America", of which the prototype version on "Neondian" [...] had caused a 1985 "fake-release" by Teldec [...]. Since he [Ken Matsutani, Captain Trip] broke the industry-boycott against me [...], he released a wide range not only of my own music + projects but also of people who I think deserve to be released but would never get a chance in the west. He even helped to re-unite the Dinger brothers by releasing the la D. classics in 1997, which are currently blocked in the west in a court battle with East West ("America"), who for many years refused to even talk about an appropriate co-release of this world-wide highly acclaimed project. In Mar 1998 Ken Matsutani also produced the so far only ready-to-sign-contracts for the NEU! classics - clear + simple with phantastic conditions compared with the tricky-vague "No Biz like Showbiz" offers presented by a third-class buffer from Vancouver for the "Allmighties"... I would sign anytime, but NEU! is Dinger/Rother ... We reached the absolute peak (in value + absurdity) so far when the man, who had signed a ridiculous agreement in 1990! - who admitted that he owns me a lot in a 91 letter, refused an invitation to N. Y. from Polygram U. S. to discuss the matter. [...] Sorry world!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: RE: (kw) "Lifestyle"-Lyriks (question) Date: 11 May 1999 16:39:05 +0000 > >> Relative to Electric Music's "Livestyle" I have a question. What is the > >phonetic > >> voice singing after that female voice saying "Life-style". > >> I just understand something like: > >> - "shuss an ah'ser harr l'ahging" (english spelling) > >> - "stickeling you're talking" > >> Is anybody able to tell me the correct lyrics ? > > > >"Just another headline stealing your time." > > OK. But later it's said "get a new hairstyle", so I think they really say > "Just another hairline stealing your time." No, it's "headline". You'll find this part of the lyrics transcribed in the "Lifestyle" promo video. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) Re: Kraftwerk at work Date: 11 May 1999 16:39:05 +0000 The following appeared at alt.music.kraftwerk a few days back: >if you want to know a bit more on Kraftwerk anno 1999, make sure to > read Side-Line 27 in which there will be an interview featured with Dan > Lacksman, a close friend of Florian. Just a hint.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Beslove" Subject: (kw) If I were Ralf or Florain... Date: 11 May 1999 08:35:31 -0700 ...and I wanted to try something new and different musically, but not at the risk of tarnishing my legacy. I'd publish under a pseudonym. What do you 'werkers think? Is there anyone out there who our favorite menches may be anonymously collaborating with or a name they may be working under? Just a thought... --Adam Beslove HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Dobiesz Subject: (kw) Finally... Date: 11 May 1999 11:59:48 -0400 Finally, I have something good to contribute. I can now do analog > .MP3 (among other things). Therefore, I now have the following .MP3 files available. I do not have a means of hosting them, I would have to E-Mail them to you: Kraftwerk - Robotnik (Klingklang Extended Mix) Robotronik (Klingklang Mix) The Robots (Single Edit) Other Interesting (non-Kraftwerk) items: The Dead Milkmen - Ask Me To Dance Harlow Wilcox & The Oakies - Groovy Grubworm Da Yoopers - Free Beer Big Brother & The Holding Company - Caterpillar Steam - Na Na Hey Hey (Kiss Him Goodbye) Chicago - Free Form Guitar The Statler Brothers - Flowers On The Wall Ron Holden - Love You So E-Mail me directly at huggy_bear@ameritech.net ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tanger" Subject: Odp: (kw) Man Machine Date: 11 May 1999 22:55:01 +0200 let me tell u about what i purchased just yestarday it's a CD-single featuring the band called 'Netzwerk' with 4 versions of = the 'Robotronic' song and one bonus track called 'Klangwelt' on it they seem to come from Frankfurt it's obvious where the inspiration came from judging by the cover and nam= e of this band but as far as the music goes it's far away from what KW make= s if you ask me. i'd say it was a good waste of money tadream -----Wiadomo=9C=E6 oryginalna----- Od: JMJ Fanklubb Norge Do: Kraftwerk mailinglist Data: 11 maja 1999 04:05 Temat: (kw) Man Machine For your records, I browsed my CD collection today and found by accident a CD by Man Machin= e. The album title is "Daylight", and has tracks named "Energy", "Power machine", and "Robot Mastermix". Computer/robot vocals are featured extensively. Pretty obvious were the inspiration came from, if you ask me. It was released in 1992 by Hotsound and produced by Erik van Vliet of LaserDance fame (and the music sounds like LaserDance left-overs too). I'd like to get rid of this CD so if anyone wants to trade.......... Jarre forever! Glenn >>>Jean-Michel Jarre Fanclub Norway >>>Lundgard, 2032 Maura (Norway) Mail to glenn@jmjfkn.com Surf to www.jmjfkn.com Organiser of the international JMJ tribute album Publisher of IMAGES magazine since 1993 JarreArt @ www.itsahit.com/jarreart/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ----------------- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------- Twoja nowa podr=EAczna przyjemno=B6=E6 on-line !!! Spotkajmy si=EA na www.liptonicetea.com.pl !!! ----------------- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ------------------- Twoja nowa podręczna przyjemność on-line !!! Spotkajmy się na www.liptonicetea.com.pl !!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: intenge@lagosnet.com.br Subject: (kw) Hello !!! Date: 11 May 1999 16:51:32 -0300 I am new in this list. My name is Rogerio Schueler. Last Year Krafwerk came to Brazil. I still did not know them. I saw a little bit on TV and enjoyned so much. I like some eletronic music, like New Order and Underworld. I do not like "eletronic stars" like Jean michael Jarre. Prodigy is good, but I prefer musics not so violent, i like them futuristic. Last week i bought a CD of KW, the "Trans-Europe Express". I enjoyned it so much. I was looking for something about KW in Internet sites, and I could get some peaces of musics, in realaudio files. I was hearing them and enjoyned the musics from "Radio-Activity" and "Computer World". In your opinion, what's the best disc of KW? I want to by another, so, what disc do you think i must by? Is "Trans-Europe Express" a good disc? (i have this) Do you have MP3 files from KW? Do you have them in CD? Where can I find MP3 files in Net sites? Can you send me some by e-mail? I can send you some musics I have too... If yes please send to: mailto:rschuel@hotmail.com Is there any brazilian in this list? (Algum brasileiro nessa lista?) I hope you can help me. Thanks Rogerio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: intenge@lagosnet.com.br Subject: (kw) another help Date: 11 May 1999 17:28:06 -0300 How do you record MP3 files? Is there any software to record mp3 files from your cd rom driver? I have the Winamp software, but it do not do this. Thanks Rogerio Schueler - Brazil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Hello !!! Date: 11 May 1999 21:25:43 -0600 (MDT) On Tue, 11 May 1999 intenge@lagosnet.com.br wrote: > I am new in this list. > My name is Rogerio Schueler. Welcome to the list, Rogerio. > In your opinion, what's the best disc > of KW? My favorites are "Computer World" and "The Mix", though I think "The Man-Machine" is also very good. > I want to by another, so, what disc do > you think i must by? If you like TEE (Trans-Europe Express), I would say your next step should be either Man-Machine or Computer World. They're similar in some ways, but will give you slightly more exposure to Kraftwerk. If you want to see the full range of what Kraftwerk can do, you should get The Mix and one of these three: Ralf & Florian, Kraftwerk 1 or Kraftwerk 2. The Mix is their latest and is mostly digital updates of their older stuff - it's very bass-ey and techno-like. The other three I mentioned contain some of their earliest experimental electronic rock. It's very different from the rest. > Is "Trans-Europe Express" a good disc? > (i have this) Yes. > Where can I find MP3 files in Net sites? They're around. Stay on the list and you'll see occasional announcements by people who post Kraftwerk MP3s on their web pages. You should be able to find some with a little careful web-searching. > Can you send me some by e-mail? Not me. I generally don't like the thought of sending big files by e-mail because it tends to cause problems. I consider it a last resort. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) another help Date: 11 May 1999 21:33:09 -0600 (MDT) On Tue, 11 May 1999 intenge@lagosnet.com.br wrote: > Is there any software to record mp3 files from your cd rom > driver? Many. Again, you should be able to find some by going to a search engine like altavista.com or metacrawler.com and searching for something like "MP3 compressor". You could also try FTPing to cdrom.com and looking around there. I use one that's actually called "MP3 Compressor". It's not the best one, but it works. It will convert WAV files to MP3, so I need to use another one called CD2WAV first to rip the tracks from the CD and save them in WAV files. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Better Living Through Circuitry Date: 12 May 1999 13:17:49 +0000 The rave documentary film "Better Living Through Circuitry" (feat. Wolfgang Fluer) will be shown at the Seattle Film Festival next weekend. More info at http://www.hallucinet.com/cleopatra/betterliving.html and http://www.technofilm.com. Does anyone know what exactly Wolfgang Fluer's contribution to this film is? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) KW bootlegs Date: 12 May 1999 16:30:04 +0200 Hi, You can find amny KW bootlegs at www.cd-gold.co.jp. I can't tell if they are expensive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) DTMF-Code of the "The Telephone Call" Date: 12 May 1999 19:52:10 +0200 Hi, Does anybody know the telephone number which can be heard as DTMF-Code at the intro sequence of "The Telephone Call". I know, I ask some strange questions, don't I ;-) Thanks Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) DTMF-Code of the "The Telephone Call" Date: 12 May 1999 21:11:43 +0300 > Hi, > > Does anybody know the telephone number which can be heard as DTMF-Code at the > intro sequence of "The Telephone Call". > > I know, I ask some strange questions, don't I ;-) An interesting question! The number seems to be 7 digits, but I haven't so trained ear to determine it by dialtone :) Perhaps one with a DTMF phone can pick up sequence just by pressing the numbers. I have an impulse phone line here. BTW, there's also some impulse sequence as well, but it's too short. -- Eugene Zaikonnikov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) News on my MP3 page: http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Date: 12 May 1999 22:25:06 +0100 (CET) Hi, I know, my page as not been updated since one month. In fact, I was in vacation for two weeks and then I didn't have the time to update it. as for the serious stuff... I begin this week to post MP3's of the ZKM Kraftwerk live concert at Karlsruhe in October 1997. So, if you want to have the full concert in MP3, you will have to check my page each week or send me your mail address so I can warn you when I update the page. Please note that I won't repost tracks anymore so please don't ask. Enjoy!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) DTMF-Code of the "The Telephone Call" Date: 12 May 1999 18:12:00 EDT 1-800-ANORAK ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) DTMF-Code of the "The Telephone Call" Date: 13 May 1999 06:42:21 -0700 (PDT) --- MERSEYCHAM@aol.com wrote: > > 1-800-ANORAK Ah, the most informative posting I've seen here in some time! DER LAUNDROMAT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Betty Swollocks" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 04 May 1999 15:30:34 CEST For the first time in my own life, I have SOUND on my revamped home page! I now have: MP3: Homecomputer (KW) Computer World(KW) Radioactivity Orbit Remix(KW) Musique Non Stop(KW) RA: 2nd New Song From ZKM 1997(KW) WAV: Pretty Vacant(SP) God Save The Queen(SP) Belsen Was A Gas(SP) Liar(SP) Problems(SP) (SP=Sex Pistols, KW=Kraftwerk) And loads of pictures on Kraftwerk, Sex Pistols and Madness, not to mention loadsa humour... Tell your friends!!! Matt Machine If you've got some spare time, then go to.... www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palace/8922 Go there or be a complete gobshite. (ps. Cheeba, what was your URL again?) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners of Radioaktivitaet/The Vo Date: 30 Jun 1999 11:55:19 +0500 On 14-Apr-99, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Especially since the Kraftwerk track itself is just a straight >recreation of Werner Meyer-Eppler's track "The Voice of Power". ;-) I saw Meyer-Eppler mentioned in the new KW book; is any of his material available on CD? I checked at several record stores, but no one seems to have heard of him. -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Werner Meyer-Eppler (was: Re: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners Date: 14 May 1999 09:46:54 +0000 > >Especially since the Kraftwerk track itself is just a straight > >recreation of Werner Meyer-Eppler's track "The Voice of Power". ;-) > > I saw Meyer-Eppler mentioned in the new KW > book; is any of his material available on CD? Yes, there is a book about him that contains a bypacked CD with sound examples. This CD also includes the "The Voice of Power" track that was ripped-off by Kraftwerk. The details for the book are Ungeheuer, Elena S.: "Wie die elektronische Musik 'erfunden' wurde : Quellenstudie zu Werner Meyer-Epplers musikalischem Entwurf zwischen 1949 und 1953", Mainz u. a. 1992 (Koelner Schriften zur neuen Musik Bd. 2). ISBN: 3-7957-1891-0. > I checked at several record stores, but no one seems to have heard of him. Yes, this is because Meyer-Eppler was not exactly the "avantgarde-composer" as which he was described in Tim Barr's poorly researched book. ;-) (In fact he was a physicist.) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Werner Meyer-Eppler (was: Re: PD: (kw) Urgent: Contact to owners Date: 30 Jun 1999 19:46:22 +0500 On 14-May-99, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Yes, there is a book about him that contains a bypacked CD with sound >examples. This CD also includes the "The Voice of Power" track that >was ripped-off by Kraftwerk. Thanks for the information; I'll have to look for his recordings because I'm interested in synthetic speech... >Yes, this is because Meyer-Eppler was not exactly the >"avantgarde-composer" as which he was described in Tim Barr's poorly >researched book. ;-) >(In fact he was a physicist.) Sounds like several avant-garde musicians I've listened to. BTW, I just came across a CD +book of strange musical instruments introduced by Tom Waits ... called '(something), Whirlies, and Pyrophones'. The album's at the office, so I don't remember the name, but I think it captures Kraftwerk's joy in fooling around with noises... :-) If you're not familiar with Tom Waits, I recommend 'Bone Machine' and 'Swordfishtrombones'... Anyway, thanks again! -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Re: Werner Meyer-Eppler Date: 14 May 1999 13:15:40 +0000 > >Yes, there is a book about him that contains a bypacked CD with sound > >examples. This CD also includes the "The Voice of Power" track that > >was ripped-off by Kraftwerk. > > Thanks for the information; I'll have to look for his recordings because I'm > interested in synthetic speech... His personal scientific archives, including recordings with his sound experiments, are now available at the Stiftung Archiv der Akademie der Kuenste in Berlin, by the way (http://www.adk.de). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk at Sonar 1995 Date: 14 May 1999 15:16:58 +0200 Found at http://www.sonar.es/s96/mvideoca1345.html >>Exhibici=F3n permanente de los men=FAs de proyecciones programados dura= nte las tres ediciones de SONAR. Videos a disposici=F3n del p=FAblico, que podr=E1 visionarlos en terminales TV instaladas en el MACBA. MENUS SONAR '95 Electronica Retro: Techno Pop: Model, KRAFTWERK. Electr=F3= nica Retro: Experimental Oldies: Ruckstob Gondoliero, KRAFTWERK; Antena, KRAFTWERK.<< Translation: Permanent exhibition of the menus of projections programmed during three editings of SONAR. Videos to disposition of the public, who will be able = to watch them in TV terminals installed in the MACBA (Museum of Contemporary Art of Barcelona). MENUS SONAR '95 Electronica Retro: Techno Pop: Model, Kraftwerk. Retro Electronics: Experimental Oldies: Ruckstob Gondoliero, Kraftwerk; Antenna, Kraftwerk. DER AUTOMAT "Put the arm onto the main body and screw in tightly". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: intenge@lagosnet.com.br Subject: (kw) thanks Date: 14 May 1999 17:05:52 -0300 Thanks for the people that are helping me to learn more abou KW. A question: Is KW good because it's not so famous or it's no so famous because it's good? Kisses for you, boys and girls! Rogerio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: RE: (kw) thanks Date: 14 May 1999 17:13:41 -0500 >Is KW good because it's not so famous or it's no so >famous because >it's good? Ooooh, this one's gonna get ugly. Sick'em, Automat! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gareth Evans Subject: (kw) Autobahn Live - Japanese CD Date: 14 May 1999 23:42:26 +0100 Does anybody have any info about the Japanese CD "Autobahn Tour". Which contains the four tracks: Autobahn Kometenmelodie Klingklang Tanzmusik Are the contents the same as the "Concert Classics" CD? It is a black CD with the "Autobahn" logo on a sticker on the front of the CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mauricio Gonzalez" Subject: RV: (kw) Autobahn Live - Japanese CD Date: 15 May 1999 23:28:11 -0400 The cd have exactly the same content the "Concert Classics" I have the 2 CD's Regards Mauricio. http://members.xoom.com/werker > >-----Mensaje original----- >De: Gareth Evans >Para: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com >Fecha: Viernes, 14 de Mayo de 1999 06:46 p.m. >Asunto: (kw) Autobahn Live - Japanese CD > > >> >>Does anybody have any info about the Japanese CD "Autobahn Tour". Which >>contains the four tracks: >> >>Autobahn >>Kometenmelodie >>Klingklang >>Tanzmusik >> >>Are the contents the same as the "Concert Classics" CD? >> >>It is a black CD with the "Autobahn" logo on a sticker on the front of the >CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean and Karen (and sometimes Duncan)" Subject: (kw) Phone stuff Date: 16 May 1999 00:15:22 -0400 >Hi, > >Does anybody know the telephone number which can be heard as DTMF-Code at the >intro sequence of "The Telephone Call". > >I know, I ask some strange questions, don't I ;-) > >Thanks > >Gubbolf > If you have a phone with call display, play the song at a moderate level, not too loud so as to be distorted, but not too quietly (experiment!!) then after the call begins, hangup, and press the "last call dialed" button.. I would do so, but its my idea so I don't think I should have to do it :) You can tell I am a senior engineer type.. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) Ralf@Rund um Koeln ? Date: 16 May 1999 13:31:01 +0200 Hi, does anybody know, if Ralf joins the "Rund um Koeln"-Bicycle Tour ? Thanks Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) If I were Ralf or Florain... Date: 16 May 1999 15:17:48 EDT In einer eMail vom 11.05.99 17:40:01 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt beslove@hotbot.com: > ...and I wanted to try something new and different musically, but not at the > risk of tarnishing my legacy. > > I'd publish under a pseudonym. What do you 'werkers think? Is there anyone > out there who our favorite menches may be anonymously collaborating with or a > name they may be working under? "Modern Talking" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Tour De Kraft update. Date: 16 May 1999 21:55:22 +0100 Hi, New MP3 from the 1981 tour (Computers in Love bootleg). Autobahn Only one live track this time because it's a biggy! The Cover version the much requested 'Radioactivity' dramatically rendered by 'The Divine Comedy'. Mike. Kraftwerk 1981 live and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "My Bulk Mail" Subject: (kw) Dusseldorf Date: 16 May 1999 17:48:46 +0200 Hi, I'll go to Dusseldorf next week. I wonder, what areas worth seeing in the city if I just want to be there on those 'historical' places, and breathe some 'luft'... Could somebody help me, with a few addresses ? (or just a clue, where to start...) I just want to take a walk there, not disturbing anyone. Thank you. Tom. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Di Sante" Subject: (kw) Any news ? Date: 17 May 1999 02:15:30 +0200 Hi there! I've been disconnected by January, so I would like to know if in this period something NEW and/or IMPORTANT has been discussed into this mailing list. Did Ralf und Florian decide to release something new ?!? NO ?!? Strange......... >:-P T.I.A. Didi Milan-PDN di.di@tiscalinet.it # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "vig" Subject: (kw) FA: Tour De France US 12" Picture Sleeve Date: 16 May 1999 18:22:59 -0400 Hello again. I currently the following Kraftwerk item up for auction on eBay: Tour De France - US 12" - Picture Sleeve - Mint! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=105010029 Still some Synthpop items available for set sale on my website: http://home.att.net/~vig/recordh.htm More to be added soon.... Again, thanks for looking David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) Das Model-Red Vinyl Question Date: 16 May 1999 14:34:06 +0200 Hi all Yesterday I got lucky at my local fleamarket in Switzerland. I bought a copy of the German limited edition Das Model 12" in red vinyl for just USD 20. A nice item I was looking for a long time. I now have a question about the inner sleeve. The inner sleeve has nothing about Kraftwerk on it but only advertisments for various accessories from the EMI Electrola Catalogue such as cleanig kits etc. (all written in German). Is this the original inner sleeve? Could someone who has this red vinyl pressing check with his copy? I also bought the spanish vinyl of Ralf and Florian for USD 25. It states the date of 1973 on the cover and spine, but the Kraftwerk International Discography says it was released in 1978. So who is right? Was Ralf & Florian only released in 78 in Spain? Thanks a lot in advance! (Trainspotting) Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrik.Mattsson@emw.ericsson.se (Patrik Mattsson) Subject: (kw) Das Model-Red Vinyl Question Date: 17 May 1999 11:59:55 +0200 I've checked my copy and got the same innersleeve as you. I think ( and hope) this is the orginal innersleeve ;-) Bye!! Patrik >Yesterday I got lucky at my local fleamarket in Switzerland. I bought a >copy of the German limited edition Das Model 12" in red vinyl for just >USD 20. A nice item I was looking for a long time. I now have a question >about the inner sleeve. The inner sleeve has nothing about Kraftwerk on >it but only advertisments for various accessories from the EMI Electrola >Catalogue such as cleanig kits etc. (all written in German). Is this the >original inner sleeve? Could someone who has this red vinyl pressing >check with his copy? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel J.Fauza Subject: Re: (kw) Hello !!! Date: 17 May 1999 09:55:42 EST Rogerio wrote: >Is there any brazilian in this list? (Algum brasileiro nessa lista?) Oh yes, there's a lot of us here... :-) >I like some eletronic music, like New Order and Underworld. I do not lik= e "eletronic stars" like Jean michael Jarre. Prodigy is good, but I prefer musics not so violent, i like them futuristic. Underworld is great, really. And I went to the Prodigy concert here in Sa= o Paulo on last saturday (15/05), it was very cool. But there's a DJ here t= hat rocked the place: Marky Mark. You will hear this name several times in th= e future... (i hope). >In your opinion, what's the best disc of KW? The Man Machine, for me. Michel J. Fauza ICQ: 12449637 http://www.fauza.cjb.net Sao Paulo - Brasil ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) afrika bambataa Date: 17 May 1999 07:48:57 -0700 (PDT) "Rapper Afrika Bambataa used samples from Kraftwerks Trans Europe Express in his own Planet rock, the number that would become the blueprint of the New-York hiphop." ("Welcome to the future", by Gert Van Veen) Does anyone know where I can find this track in mp3? thanks, skylined === surf.to/musicpage "Keep it real, keep it Prodigy" _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean-Esleben" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk über alles Date: 17 May 1999 12:34:35 CEST *Am I the only one who noticed that the intro to 'The Telephone Call' was used on the old MTV programme 'Dial MTV'? *Also, on the BBC documentary QED a few months ago, they used Autobahn to plug the show. Oh yes... *Any new info on Kraftwerk? I've had no access to the Internet for 1 1/2 weeks, and I want to know if anything's happened... *There was a Dutch couple, Jos & Irene, who were selling the LP 'Kraftwerk'. Jos & Irene: ik wil GRAAG die LP kopen, maar ik heb al een tijd niks van jullie gehoord. Hebben jullie het nog? *On the album Kraftwerk, Ralf used a 'tubon' So what's that then? That's it from me then. Check my site for Kraftwerk & stuff... Matt, www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: (kw) mp3 Date: 03 Apr 1999 10:10:42 CEST Does anybody know, where I can get MP3=B4s of Florian=B4s vocoder-poem an= d=20 from "R=FCckstoss Gondoliere"??? Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas W." Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf@Rund um Koeln ? Date: 17 May 1999 20:50:08 +0200 Hi, does anybody know, if Ralf joins the "Rund um Koeln"-Bicycle Tour ? Thanks Gubbolf Not Rund um K=F6ln, but it was reported that he was seen at the Underworl= d event in Cologne's Palladium last Thursday. Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick Wacher Subject: (kw) Greetings Date: 18 May 1999 17:15:44 +1000 Been poking around the list for a little bit and I thought I'd briefly introduce myself. I was made aware of Kraftwerk in the early '80s, when I used to breakdance to Afrika Bambatta's 'Planet Rock' and Tour De France. At the time I was only 10 or 11, but really changed the way I thought about music. More recently, my passion for Kraftwerk was re-newed by listening to lots of Detroit Techno/electro and reading interviews with people like Juan Atkins, Derrick May, etc... who cite KW as being a major influence on their 'future' music. I regularly dj in Sydney, Australia and often throw in a Kraftwerk track just to confuse and inspire people. *Lots* of people don't have a clue who Kw are and often think their music is new! Anyway that's about it from me. Regards, Patrick. BTW, any other Australian list members get to hear the 3hr Kraftwerk Tribute on Radio JJJ?? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - S O U T H E R N O U T P O S T http://www.so.nitro.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) If I were Ralf or Florain... Date: 18 May 1999 09:38:00 +0200 > ...and I wanted to try something new and different musically, but not at >the risk of tarnishing my legacy. > I'd publish under a pseudonym. What do you 'werkers think? Is there >anyone out there who our favorite menches may be anonymously collaborating >with or a name they may be working under? Another pseudonym..., hmmm... Power Station! DER AUTOMAT :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) afrika bambataa Date: 18 May 1999 15:59:47 +0200 Lemmens Geert wrote: >"Rapper Afrika Bambataa used samples from Kraftwerks Trans Europe >Express in his own Planet rock, the number that would become the >blueprint of the New-York hiphop." ("Welcome to the future", by Gert >Van Veen) The correct name is Afrika Bambaataa. What is "Welcome to the future"?, a book?, a magazine? Where I can find it on-line? TIA DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) afrika bambataa Date: 17 May 1999 20:25:38 +0200 > "Rapper Afrika Bambataa used samples from Kraftwerks Trans Europe > Express in his own Planet rock, the number that would become the For your info, TEE wasn't sampled but "only" replayed by Arthur Baker and John Robie on Planet Rock. Sampling was a bit expensive in those days. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: RE: (kw) afrika bambataa Date: 18 May 1999 13:21:38 -0500 >> "Rapper Afrika Bambataa used samples from Kraftwerks Trans Europe >> Express in his own Planet rock, the number that would become the >For your info, TEE wasn't sampled but "only" replayed by Arthur Baker and >John Robie on Planet Rock. Sampling was a bit expensive in those days. Actually, only a brief portion of the song was replayed, but it was done in a repetitive fashion. The "sampling" was done using turntables and a DJ mixing board. You could call it "analog sampling." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) OT: Leipzig? Date: 18 May 1999 22:56:37 +0200 in the next days I'll be in Leipzig for the wave-goth festival that yearly take plache there (www.wave-gotik-treffen.de). someone has some tips for bootshopping, nice places to see, to eat etc.? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "miffo man" Subject: RE: (kw) afrika bambataa Date: 18 May 1999 14:44:22 PDT And one the 1992 re-issue of this record Electric Music has made a over 9 minutes long super nice remix of this track! (with sampling) Higly Recomended!!! //Andreas > >> "Rapper Afrika Bambataa used samples from Kraftwerks Trans Europe > >> Express in his own Planet rock, the number that would become the > > >For your info, TEE wasn't sampled but "only" replayed by Arthur Baker and > >John Robie on Planet Rock. Sampling was a bit expensive in those days. > >Actually, only a brief portion of the song was replayed, but it was done in >a repetitive fashion. The "sampling" was done using turntables and a DJ >mixing board. You could call it "analog sampling." > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flemming nielsen Subject: (kw) New Email Address Date: 18 May 1999 20:22:17 +0200 Hi There I have change my email from pepsi@post3.tele.dk to juventus@post3.tele.dk Many Regards Flemming # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Autobahn Live - Japanese CD / Planet Rock Date: 19 May 1999 15:27:53 +0200 >Does anybody have any info about the Japanese CD "Autobahn Tour". Which >contains the four tracks: >Are the contents the same as the "Concert Classics" CD? I think is the "Concert Classics" edition that have been licensed in Japan. On May 4th Der Automat wrote: >By the way, "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa has been remixed recently, >hasn't it? The producer and director of Bush Records (London) Eric Powell has remixed "Planet Rock" by Afrika Bambaataa not long ago. The CD "On the Road" by Traffic has a cover similar to the one of Autobahn. Also the cover of "Warhead", the album by UK Subs, is pretty close to Radioactivity single (The Mix era). In addition it's included a song titled "I Robot". The cover of the double CD and double cassette "The Best of Techno Classics" compilation is plagiarized of "Musique Non Stop" / "Electric Cafe". The new album by Orbital, The Middle of Nowhere, contains a track titled Spare Parts Express. The new 12" by Drexciya is called Bubble Metropolis. It's said James Stinson aka Drexciya is the responsible of The Elecktroids. And all the releases of Drexciya have a familiar Kraftwerkian essence. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) Planet Rock. Date: 19 May 1999 10:09:05 -0400 Jesus...is there a day (or digest) that goes by that doesn't mention "Planet Rock"? I wonder if the John Lydon mailing list has to talk about Bambatta every day because Johnny worked with him on a track? Somehow I doubt it. I know, I know, all I do is post and complain about the list content. Never the less, here's my newest project. I'm gonna stop playing guitar in my bedroom, and I'm going to get myself some brand spanking new eeelectronic eeeequipment, and start doing dance mixes of nothing but Kraftwerk songs. If this list is any small example of the interest, I should be raking in the bucks in no time flat, because "Planet Rock" sucks rocks. As does all but the most minimal sampling, yet there's a market for it, that snaps the shit up as if it were original, or interesting, or in some way related to what is being sampled. It isn't. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: (kw) Planet Rock Date: 19 May 1999 09:57:18 -0500 I recall reading something about Kraftwerk members arriving to the U.S. on a Trans-Europe-Express tour, and upon visiting on the of the Discotheques, they found the DJ playing a TEE clip over and over, and the people were going wild. This was the first recorded instance of this song being used in a mix. Does any one recall details of this article? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Chemical beats Date: 19 May 1999 08:12:41 PDT Well, last night I saw a Chemical Brothers concert here in Sao Paulo, and I have to say I liked it very much!!! They are amazing on stage, mixing several patterns at a time, making everyone dance for 2 hours... they have a nice set on stge, including two analog sequencers, a Juno, a polymoog and an old moog (I cannot remember which one). The images were taken by two guys in the back, from nice 16 mm films... a great concert... 9, considering KW is 10. By the way, of course they use hundreds, maybe thousands KW samples, but I only could recognize the Musique Non Stop voice, in a very good different mood. For the guy asking for brazilian on the list: yes, there´s a lot here. But we are sometimes very subtle... we normally talk between us a lot, but didn´t meet on real life. I dream someday we could make a KW fan meeting here in Brazil... of course, before they played again here (we will be very old when it occurs again)... hehehe. If anyone would like to contact me, fell free. peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Planet Rock. Date: 19 May 1999 09:14:38 -0600 (MDT) On Wed, 19 May 1999 Fred_Harding@idx.com wrote: > As does all but the most minimal sampling, yet there's a market for it, > that snaps the shit > up as if it were original, or interesting, or in some way related to what > is being sampled. > > It isn't. In your opinion. In my opinion, it is. We've been through this before. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) Planet Rock Date: 19 May 1999 11:50:15 "Chris Stann" wrote: >I recall reading something about Kraftwerk members arriving to >the U.S. on a Trans-Europe-Express tour, and upon visiting on >the of the Discotheques, they found the DJ playing a TEE clip >over and over, and the people were going wild. This was the >first recorded instance of this song being used in a mix. > >Does any one recall details of this article? I don't recall the details of the article, but I do remember hearing or reading the same thing, with one slight difference. The song which was being mixed into itself over and over again was "Metal on Metal", which the club DJ had 2 copies of, one on each turntable. nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) KW interview Date: 19 May 1999 09:23:32 -0700 "...I remember somebody took us a to a club in about 1976 or '77 when Trans-Europe Express was out. It was in a loft club in New York, after hours, just as the DJ culture was starting when DJs began making their own records and their own grooves. This DJ was taking sections from Metal On Metal on Trans-Europe Express so I thought, 'Oh they're playing the new album'. But it went on for 10 minutes! And I thought, 'What's happening?!' The track is only something like two or three minutes! Later I asked the DJ and he had two copies of the record and he was mixing the two, and of course it could go on as long as people were dancing..." The rest of the "Future Music" magazine interview is in here: http://www.futurenet.com/musiciansnet/Hitech/People/Kraftwerk/kraftwerk2.htm l KW 4ever! Enrique (is there any Spanish speaking people outhere?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) New Email Address Date: 19 May 1999 13:21:28 -0400 On Tue, 18 May 1999 20:22:17 +0200 flemming nielsen writes: > >Hi There > >I have change my email from pepsi@post3.tele.dk to > >juventus@post3.tele.dk yeah so? whats that got to do with the new album? tom w np: space and bass disc 1 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) pre-electric cafe' Date: 19 May 1999 13:58:33 -0400 hi all -- im new on the list since friday. before electric cafe was relesed, kraftwerk released a version of the album, also called electric cafe, wich was withdrawn from the stores, reworked and re-released as the album we today know of as electric cafe. does anybody know what the diffrences between the two are, both in the looks, and in the music? mabey someone know where i can get one, or a copy of it? this album and the tour de france single is the only thing missing to complete my official kraftwerk collection. karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) pre-electric cafe' Date: 19 May 1999 14:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Kraftwerk had planned an album to be released in 1984 called "Techno Pop," but the album was cancelled at the last minute for unknown reasons (rumors have attributed it to a bicycling accident that Ralf sustained, or simple dissatisfaction with the music). The contents of the album are believed to have been very similar to "Electric Cafe." No known bootleg copy of the entire album exists, although a single track ("Techno Pop") has been making the rounds for a couple of years which appears to be genuine. In fact, I recall an interview with either Wolfgang Fluer or Karl Bartos recently in which he acknowledged that the mysterious track was indeed from "Techno Pop." ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "I must invent my own system, or be Student Services, enslaved by another man's." The University of Michigan --William Blake LS&A Honors Program http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) Various Important Questions Date: 19 May 1999 11:48:41 PDT WHAT UP ??? A few questions: 1) The Austrailian Box Set, "Arbeiten/Works/Oerves (I know I didn't spell that right; sorry !) " released on Capitol, has tracks from 1968 to 1986 on them. I haven't seen or bought the box. I know this question has been posed before, but I can't remember the answer. What tracks are in included the box set ? Also, if Capitol obtained the rights to these tracks from the early years, then why doesn't Capitol or EMI re-release the Tone Float album and the first three KW albums? And why is this box set only being issued in Austrailia ? 2) I just recently bought the US CD reissues of Radioactivity, Trans Europe Express, and Man Machine. Why hasn't Capitol reissued Autobahn ? I know that many people including myself are sick of paying for the EMI imports. I also feel that the German language albums should also be made domestic instead of having to pay the same high prices for the German imports. 3) There is a web site called Music Link or Music Web (I can't remeber the exact name) that sells records listed by personal sellers along with record stores and dealers. In the list of records being sold, there is a listing for A NEW KRAFTWERK LP AND SINGLE TO BE RELEASED ON 12/31/99 (New Year's Eve) by a Canadian record store by the name of VMI Records. They don't have a title, and it sounds like BS to me. Any news ? 4) The new Star Wars movie came out this morning at midnight here in the US (I just quit my job working at a local theater to avoid the madness) . Anyways, I was thinking to myself, what if KW was offered a part in Episode 2 as the new Cantina Band or if they appeared on the soundtrack (or maybe even the Matrix soundtrack) ? I don't care about Star Wars myself; I have more important things to worry about like real life and passing my school finals, but let's say, hypothetically, if this happened, I know that the KW name would be a household word. It seems sickening to me. I remember that someone mentioned that Bill Gates said in a magazine article that KW was his favorite group, and that this could potentially be harmful because if he got the itch, he would buy the rights to all KW copyrights. What do you guys think (I"M SORRY THAT THIS MESSAGE IS SO LONG !!!) ? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) pre-electric cafe' Date: 19 May 1999 15:29:27 -0400 John___ ] In fact, I recall an interview with either Wolfgang Fluer ] or Karl Bartos recently in which he acknowledged that the ] mysterious track was indeed from "Techno Pop." do you know where i can find this track? karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick Wacher Subject: RE: (kw) Autobahn Live - Japanese CD / Planet Rock Date: 20 May 1999 10:10:56 +1000 At 3:27 PM +0200 19/5/99, Der Automat wrote: >The new 12" by Drexciya is called Bubble Metropolis. It's said James Stinson >aka Drexciya is the responsible of The Elecktroids. And all the releases of >Drexciya have a familiar Kraftwerkian essence. Actually Bubble Metropolis was released around '93-'94. They have had many great releases since that ep. Drexciya stopped operations late last year. Their final message to the world was on Underground Resistances 'Interstellar Fugitives' album. Peace, Patrick. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - N I T R O D E S I G N http://www.nitro.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "FXCordero" Subject: Re: (kw) Planet Rock Date: 19 May 1999 19:32:19 -0600 >Does any one recall details of this article? Could it be the Brian Chin (Billboard reporter) article? "Ralf Hutter was already hearing his own music at New York after hours loft parties around 1976, and he even interpreted DJing as a technological development because a vinyl album could only hold a certain amount of music, but the DJ could remix it with two turntables." "Ralf Hutter told me in 1986 that the sparse lyrics of Kraftwerk music came from his belief that "music and behavior describe us better than words. Otherwise, I'd have been in in literature." It may well be that what Kraftwerk discovered was a technological means to their own contemplation and simplicity-the truthfulness of which has proven timeless and universal. Brian Chin DJ FRANK X http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Lothar Schirmer Exhibition in Bremen Date: 20 May 1999 11:23:42 +0000 Yesterdays edition of the German newspaper TAZ featured a report about a pop art exhibition at the Kunsthalle in Bremen, which includes some Kraftwerk photos by Anton Corbijn plus the video for "Die Roboter". The exhibition will be shown until July 25th. A catalogue is available for DM 78,00 (DM 49,00 at the exhibition). http://www.taz.de/tpl/1999/05/19.nf/text?Tname=3Da0172&list=3DTAZBR_ku&id x=3D0 In der Badewanne =FCber die Wanderduene "Von Beuys bis Cindy Sherman" oder: Selten hat eine Ausstellung so viel Spass und Sinn gemacht / Der Kunstbuchverleger Lothar Schirmer zeigt in der Bremer Kunsthalle erstmals seine ausufernd schoene Sammlung "Wir sind die Roboter", quakt ein Fernseher durch die Halle. "Das ist sozusagen der audio-visuelle Teil." Ein Laecheln erklimmt die Lippen von Lothar Schirmer, hintergruendig, verschmitzt und wissend, aber dennoch halb entschuldigend. Einer der Kollegen wirft einen veraechtlichen zweiten Blick auf vier riesige Fotos des Hollaenders Anton Corbijn, in deren Rahmen sich die Dauerschleife eines monotonen Musik-Videos spiegelt. Vier Maenner mit ausdruckslosen Gesichtern sind keine Schaufensterpuppen, sondern die Musiker von "Kraftwerk". Der Sammler Lothar Schirmer deutet noch kurz mit dem Arm in die andere Richtung und will wohl noch etwas sagen, aber die Journalisten-Horde ist weitergetrabt. [...] Der Katalog kann am Ort des Geschehens zum Vorzugspreis von 49 Mark statt 78 Mark erworben werden und verzichtet streng minimalistisch auf jegliche biographische Schnoerkel zum tieferen Verstaendnis einzelner Werke. [...] Die "Sammlung Lothar Schirmer" ist noch bis zum 25. Juli in der Kunsthalle zu sehen. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Cypress Hill Date: 20 May 1999 12:20:01 +0200 Cypress Hill have sampled Elektric Music's "Don't Stop... Planet Rock Classic Mix" in their new 12" "Inside In The Train". BTW, Afrika Bambaataa & Westbam have published recently the single "Agharta - The City of Shamballa" on Mute Records. I found two 12" of Kraftwerk: "Numbers" and "Trans-Europe Express", if anybody is interested in them, email me and I can get them to you. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) Bartos remix Deine Lakaien! Date: 20 May 1999 17:18:07 +0200 quoting from the Chrom Record newsletter: --- DEINE LAKAIEN -------------------- * Karl Bartos (KRAFTWERK) remixes DEINE LAKAIEN! On the forth-coming Zillo-Sampler "Zillo Club Hits 4" will be included a "Return"-Remix by Karl Bartos (Kraftwerk). The musicans met on a Deine Lakaien Gig in Hamburg and now the proparations started. - Release is planned for June '98 (SPV) [this should be a typo for '99, lbo] --- go to www.chrom.de for further informations. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Neu! Date: 20 May 1999 16:14:40 +0200 Anyone of you knows from where Neu! really took their artistic name? David Toop will play at Sonar festival (Barcelona) this year. The same place where Kraftwerk played the last year. David Toop is a musician, essayist, critic, columnist for The Wire, collaborator of Arena, Spin, Mojo, Billboard, The Face and The Independent. He wrote several books, among them one titled "Ocean of Sound - Aether Talk, Ambient Sound and Imaginary World" published by Serpent's Tail in 1995 and compiled 5 CD's with the same concept than the book. By the way, Afrika Bambaataa and The Soul Sonic Force are included in one of these CD's, Booming on Pluto: Electro for Droids (Virgin, 1997). On May it will appear his new book "Exotica. Fabricated Soundscapes in a Real World" accompanied of its respective sound sampler. Toop wrote some articles about Kraftwerk at magazines like The Wire and he also wrote the text that can be read at the back cover of the reissue of the Computer World CD by Cleopatra Records. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) '12-Inch - Question Date: 20 May 1999 17:19:24 +0200 Does anyone here know this ´12-inch: BEAT BOX Between The Sheets Late Night Radio Show 8.40 Late Night Radio Show (?)/ Trans Europe Express/ The Model/ Autobahn/ Chariots Of Fire (!...)/ The Robots/ Radio Activity It contains the same medley-version on both sides. thanks ---josef _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Klaus Dinger / Captain Trip / Indigo / NEU! Date: 20 May 1999 17:52:53 +0000 Klaus Dingers most recent CD releases are now available as German imports via Indigo: 1) la! NEU?: Live in Tokyo Vol. 2 (Fuenfundvierzig / Captain Trip / Indigo CD 8920-2) 2) la! NEU?: Blue (Fuenfundvierzig / Captain Trip / Indigo CD 8919-2) Klaus Dinger's record company Captain Trip has now a (basic) WWW site, BTW: http://www.md.xaxon.ne.jp/~cpttrip/ > From: "Der Automat" > > Anyone of you knows from where Neu! really took their artistic name? Presumably from the German word "Neu"? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "OVAL" Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk über alles Date: 19 May 1999 19:16:05 -0500 >*Am I the only one who noticed that the intro to 'The Telephone Call' >was used on the old MTV programme 'Dial MTV'? > No. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Bartos remix Deine Lakaien! Date: 20 May 1999 15:27:55 EDT In einer eMail vom 20.05.99 15:32:36 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreib= t=20 lbo@iol.it: > The musicans met on a Deine=20 > Lakaien Gig in Hamburg and now the proparations started. Uh, too sad *I* didn=B4t meet him there! BTW: It was a great concert! ("Lass mich Dein Lakai sein!!!") Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: FW: (kw) '12-Inch - Question Date: 20 May 1999 22:08:40 +0200 Yes, I know about it - I recorded it about 15 years ago. I haven't = heard the tape for more than five years, but I think the medley consisted of a = few more song, i.e. Alpha or maybe PolStar (Vangelis). /Joakim -----Original Message----- Does anyone here know this =B412-inch: =20 BEAT BOX=20 Between The Sheets Late Night Radio Show 8.40... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) Das Model-Red Vinyl Question Date: 20 May 1999 22:36:37 +0200 Roland_Metzger@csi.com writes: > >Hi all > >Yesterday I got lucky at my local fleamarket in Switzerland. I bought a >copy of the German limited edition Das Model 12" in red vinyl for just >USD 20. A nice item I was looking for a long time. I now have a question >about the inner sleeve. The inner sleeve has nothing about Kraftwerk on >it but only advertisments for various accessories from the EMI Electrola >Catalogue such as cleanig kits etc. (all written in German). Is this the >original inner sleeve? Could someone who has this red vinyl pressing >check with his copy? > Hallo Roland ! Es handelt sich tatsächlich um das Original-Sleeve. Ich hab das Stück vor über 10 Jahren mal gekauft, allerdings mit schwarzfarbener '12-Inch in genau jenem inner-sleeve. Also müsste es irgendwo noch die rote Scheibe ohne Original-Cover noch Sleeve geben... Grüsse ---josef _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ulf Engstroem" Subject: SV: (kw) '12-Inch - Question Date: 20 May 1999 22:35:03 +0200 Between the sheets: Late night radio produced by Svengile & Puzzle 1984 The late night radio and kraftwerk lyrics are singed by female voices=20 on the 7' single the cover is four empty red shirts with black ties = standing as the man machine cover=20 It also stands that autobahn is on the medly on the cover, but it = isn=B4t the order of tunes in the medly: 1 late night radio 2 trans europa express 3 the model ( they sing "he=B4s a model") 4 late night radio 5 chariots of fire 6 late night radio 7 the robots ( female robovoices) 8 radio activity 9 late night radio 10 chariots of fire Ulf > Does anyone here know this =B412-inch: > =20 > BEAT BOX=20 > Between The Sheets > Late Night Radio Show 8.40 > =20 > Late Night Radio Show (?)/ > Trans Europe Express/ > The Model/ > Autobahn/ > Chariots Of Fire (!...)/ > The Robots/ > Radio Activity > =20 > It contains the same medley-version on both sides. > =20 > thanks > =20 >---josef # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): SV: The man in the middle (was: RE: (kw) PictOf KW I NeverSeenBefore Date: 21 May 1999 03:50:47 +0200 rochow@segsrv.hlo.dec.com writes: > > >>Can anybody tell me who Dorian Gray was/is > >An Oscar Wilde character; he has a picture of himself that ages >instead of himself.... > >-gbr The Theme of this story can also be found in the song >Spiegelsaal [The Hall Of Mirrors]< by kraftwerk. Regards ---josef _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Email Adress from Kraftwerk! Date: 20 May 1999 23:35:08 -0300 Do somebody knows the e-mails adress of Ralf H=FCtter and Florian Schneider and other two members: Fritz and Henning? Do is there these adress? Do somebody can give me this information? Thanks!!! --- --- //////////////////ANGELO///////////////////// Miguel Angelo C. Pra=E7a///////////////////////// --- --- =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) Email Adress from Kraftwerk! Date: 21 May 1999 04:15:12 +0200 angelo@urbi.com.br writes: > >Do somebody knows the e-mails adress >of Ralf Hütter and Florian Schneider and other two members: Fritz and >Henning? >Do is there these adress? > >Do somebody can give me this information? > >Thanks!!! Sorry , I only have their Telephone-Numbers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick Wacher Subject: Re: (kw) Email Adress from Kraftwerk! Date: 21 May 1999 12:17:13 +1000 This could get exciting! ;) I don't have their email address, but they are currently crashed out on my lounge watching re-runs of the A-Team. I could pass on a message. Peace, Patrick ;) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - S O U T H E R N O U T P O S T http://www.so.nitro.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) That CD Date: 30 Jun 1999 14:14:25 +0500 Ho-K, the name of the CD I mentioned last week is 'Gravikords, Whirlies, and Pyrophones'. I recommend it highly; it contains rare recordings of Clara Rockmore at the Theremin, Moog and Buchla playing a duet, a demonstration of 'circuit bending' (which I've done myself), and an amazing demonstration of the Daxophone. It's available online... BTW, Tom Waits (who wrote the intro to the accompanying book) plays a Chamberlain-- something similar to a Mellotron-- on his album 'Bone Machine'... does anyone have any info about it? -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) Email Adress from Kraftwerk! Date: 21 May 1999 06:25:43 -0700 (PDT) > Do somebody knows the e-mails adress > of Ralf Hütter and Florian Schneider and other two > members: Fritz and > Henning? > Do is there these adress? > > Do somebody can give me this information? Yes, but I'll be diagramming these sentences all morning; can't pass it on right now. jmy ;^) _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) '12-Inch - Question Date: 21 May 1999 15:41:56 +0200 Josef Gabler wrote: >Does anyone here know this =B412-inch: >BEAT BOX >Between The Sheets >Late Night Radio Show 8.40 >Late Night Radio Show (?)/ >Trans Europe Express/ >The Model/ >Autobahn/ >Chariots Of Fire (!...)/ >The Robots/ >Radio Activity >It contains the same medley-version on both sides. Between The Sheets was the responsibles, in the early 80's, of the record "Late Night Radio", a 12" that contained a medley of cover versions of "Radioactivity", "The Robots", "The Model" (sung by a female), "Trans-Eur= ope Express" and Vangelis' "Chariots Of Fire". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Klaus Dinger / Captain Trip / Indigo / NEU! Date: 21 May 1999 15:55:35 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >> Anyone of you knows from where Neu! really took their artistic name? > >Presumably from the German word "Neu"? Yes, but they took the name from an announcement, a poster, or what? Neu is the German word for new, isn't it? Thanks. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Beslove" Subject: Re: (kw) Email Adress from Kraftwerk! Date: 21 May 1999 07:27:41 -0700 angelo@urbi.com.br writes: >> >>Do somebody knows the e-mails adress >>of Ralf H|tter and Florian Schneider and other two members: Fritz and >>Henning? >>Do is there these adress? >> >>Do somebody can give me this information? >> >>Thanks!!! I'd really like their address, too. I keep getting their mail and packages. There's just no more room for any more show room dummies. --Adam HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) Model 12" & spanish R&F Date: 21 May 1999 16:39:07 +0200 > Yesterday I got lucky at my local fleamarket in Switzerland. I bought a > copy of the German limited edition Das Model 12" in red vinyl for just > USD 20. A nice item I was looking for a long time. I now have a question > about the inner sleeve. The inner sleeve has nothing about Kraftwerk on > it but only advertisments for various accessories from the EMI Electrola > Catalogue such as cleanig kits etc. (all written in German). Is this the > original inner sleeve? Could someone who has this red vinyl pressing > check with his copy? There's no specific inner sleeve for this record as it is a Maxi Single (12") - they come either with plain white inners or advertisement inners. > I also bought the spanish vinyl of Ralf and Florian for USD 25. It > states the date of 1973 on the cover and spine, but the Kraftwerk > International Discography says it was released in 1978. So who is right? > Was Ralf & Florian only released in 78 in Spain? Look on the A-side label: Dep. legal: M. 38742 - 1978 The 1973 dates are for copright and production. Bye, Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "El Deańo" Subject: (kw) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:41:33 CEST Date: 21 May 1999 10:34:05 -0600 Happy weekend, happy Whitsun (if you bother to do fuck on this day)! Prettig weekend en prettige Pinksteren! Frohe Wochenende und auch frohe Pfinkster (wenn du's feiert) Matt www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: (kw) technopop demo mp3 Date: 21 May 1999 10:49:43 -0500 I've seen a few requests for the Technopop demo. It will be available for a limited time at http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/4181/technopop.mp3 You're welcome. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) INSTANT ORGASM (The Return of the Masters) Date: 21 May 1999 12:02:46 PDT Well, this is some BIG NEWS !!!!! This may seem like bullshit to some, but there is a NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM AND SINGLE THAT WILL BE RELEASED ON 12/31/99 !!!! According to VMI records, a Canadian record store, there are two new KW releases that have been posted up the store's website. You can check them out at the following addresses: wmimusic.com mail : wmi@wmimusic.com Here is a bit more info : New KW CD single Japanese Import Toshiba/EMI Records (TOCP 40022) $13.90 New KW Album Japanese Import Toshiba/EMI Records (TOCP 50091) $28.96 These are also listed at gemm.com . VMI is also a great place to find rare Art of Silence, Yello, and Anne Dudley records as well as other extremely hard to find imports, vinyl, CD's and video. NOISEWERKER (a.k.a. "Juno Jackson") noisewerker@hotmail.com "Definitely a joyful noise unto the Lord" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) New KW? ....nope Date: 21 May 1999 18:02:29 EDT Wishful thinking, but... The way the on-line record store VMI lists the releases they "think" are going to come out, is to list them, but the date of release defaults to Dec. 31, 1999. Also listed in the Tangerine Dream section is the soundtrack to "The Keep", and it's no secret that Virgin Records has not yet announced a release date for that album . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) New KW? ....nope Date: 21 May 1999 18:02:29 EDT Wishful thinking, but... The way the on-line record store VMI lists the releases they "think" are going to come out, is to list them, but the date of release defaults to Dec. 31, 1999. Also listed in the Tangerine Dream section is the soundtrack to "The Keep", and it's no secret that Virgin Records has not yet announced a release date for that album . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "markus vidman" Subject: (kw) New Album? Date: 21 May 1999 19:10:33 PDT Hello. I reeeaaaaallly wounder when kraftwerk´s new album will be realesed... -Markus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "vig" Subject: (kw) FA: Tour De France US 12" Picture Sleeve Date: 22 May 1999 14:01:28 -0400 Hello again. I currently the following Kraftwerk item up for auction on eBay. The auction ends Sunday, May 23. Tour De France - US 12" - Picture Sleeve - Mint! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=105010029 Still some Synthpop items available for set sale on my website: http://home.att.net/~vig/recordh.htm More to be added soon.... Again, thanks for looking David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ilych@aol.com Subject: (kw) Oh my goodness... Date: 22 May 1999 14:37:36 EDT Attention: I lifted this snippet from Orbital digest. I can not really vouch for the truth of this claim, except that I went to the website in question and saw it with my own four eyes. I pray someone can either verify this or tell me that it's false, so as not to get my hopes up. Peace. Bruno Vander Velde >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:02:46 PDT >From: "Juno Jackson" >Subject: (orbital) INSTANT ORGASM (The Return of the Masters) Well, this is some BIG NEWS !!!!! This may seem like bullshit to some, but there is a NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM AND SINGLE THAT WILL BE RELEASED ON 12/31/99 !!!! According to VMI records, a Canadian record store, there are two new KW releases that have been posted up the store's website. You can check them out at the following addresses: wmimusic.com mail : wmi@wmimusic.com Here is a bit more info : New KW CD single Japanese Import Toshiba/EMI Records (TOCP 40022) $13.90 New KW Album Japanese Import Toshiba/EMI Records (TOCP 50091) $28.96 >These are also listed at gemm.com . VMI is also a great place to find rare >Art of Silence, Yello, and Anne Dudley records as well as other extremely >hard to find imports, vinyl, CD's and video. >NOISEWERKER (a.k.a. "Juno Jackson") noisewerker@hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: RE: (kw) Tribal Gathering "bootleg" Date: 22 May 1999 21:38:01 +0200 ChrisS@INFORMS.com writes: >Hmmm... > >CD-R, "one copy only" > >Tell me again about the exclusivity of this deal and the ease of burning >another CD-R making yet another "one-only" CD-R? :- ) ---josef _________________In _Vienna_We_Sit_In_The_LateNight_Cafe________________ _______________________Straight_ Connection__T.E.E._____________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) An Opinion of the Warfield Soundboard Recording Date: 22 May 1999 21:45:08 +0200 urnak@hotmail.com writes: >H ello! I#ve read your opinion of this Bootleg-Cd and would be more of interessted to hear this recording. Question: Can you tell me, if it's possible still yet to order a copy of it? Thanks ---josef # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 22 May 1999 23:58:32 +0100 Get Real folks, please read the archives, and find out how many times we've had this 'exclusive' news . ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 22 May 1999 23:13:04 -0300 On 22 May 99 at 23:58, Jules Seifert wrote: >Get Real folks, please read the archives, and find out how many times >we've had this 'exclusive' news . ;-) I see that situation well different. First, in that CD Store where you can ORDER that new album, if it a hoax anybody can process them. And that album have a serial number too. I doesn't think a CD Store will make a hoax about it. Here is a japanese CD Store talking about that album, the URL is here: http://www.seikodo.co.jp/hotmenu/9701-1.html [japanese only page] Folks, I'm totally confused. I don't know if I can believe in it or not... =( Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 22 May 1999 23:13:13 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 22 May 1999, Priscila Morsoletto wrote: > I see that situation well different. First, in that CD Store where you can > ORDER that new album, if it a hoax anybody can process them. And that album > have a serial number too. I doesn't think a CD Store will make a hoax about it. Back in January 1997, when I was first getting into Kraftwerk, I ordered some KW CDs through a local shop here in Ann Arbor. The clerk asked me if I knew about the new album that Kraftwerk was about to release. Being as yet naiive to the ways of Werk, I expressed my amazement and asked her for more information. She even pulled out the catalog that the store used to place their orders, and, indeed, there was a listing for an unnamed new Kraftwerk album, set to be released in late January 1997. She asked if I wanted to reserve a copy in advance, and of course I said yes, and left my phone number. Needless to say, it's been over two years and I have yet to hear from the store. Since then, I've occasionally had music store employees make similar claims, but I usually just smile tolerantly and go on about my business. Until we hear something from Dusseldorf (or www.kraftwerk.com), I will remain a skeptic. ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "I must invent my own system, or be Student Services, enslaved by another man's." The University of Michigan --William Blake LS&A Honors Program http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 23 May 1999 05:33:38 +0200 priletto@sol.com.br writes: >And that album >have a serial number too. Hehe, what a joke... This story seems not to be heard the 1st time to me :- )) Regards ---josef _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 23 May 1999 13:06:48 +0200 Look, just beacouse you can order the album in a store it's not sure that it will be released at the given date. Stores only get dates from the companies and the stores does still not know when the stuff gets out. For example there are several computer games that has been delayed that you can preeorder and some folks has done so several years ago just like the kraftwerk album. I think that kraftwerk i still working the new album some times but not even they know when they will be finished, we just have to wait and see. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Dobiesz Subject: (kw) Apologies RE: MP3s Date: 22 May 1999 09:48:03 -0400 Greetings to all, All of those list members I have promised Robots / Robotnik / Robotronic MP3s to...I have them. Unfortunately they can't get off of my computer. My ISP has a size limit for file attaches, and these are all over that limit. I have a program (someplace) that is used to break up larger files, but if I break them, you will have to re-assemble them. They are re-assembled with a simple batch file that is generated by the program. Please let me know if any of you would like to try it this way. For the rest of you, I'll send them out as soon as I can come up with a way around the limitation. Huggy Bear huggy_bear@ameritech.net n8tlc@juno.com np: Da Yoopers - Don't Go Up Dere ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 22 May 1999 23:05:44 -0400 -----Original Message----- >>Get Real folks, please read the archives, and find out how many times >>we've had this 'exclusive' news . ;-) >I see that situation well different. First, in that CD Store where you can >ORDER that new album, if it a hoax anybody can process them. And that album >have a serial number too. I doesn't think a CD Store will make a hoax about it. >Folks, I'm totally confused. I don't know if I can believe in it or not... =( Maybe someone who's been a KW fan longer than I could answer this: What about Technopop? Were promises made about that one? I'm with the people who call the new KW album "Vapourmusic"...and it will be until it becomes available for all to purchase. I'll believe it when I see it. Huggy "Doubting Thomas" Bear np: Cabaret Voltaire - Sleepwalking # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 23 May 1999 13:25:55 +0100 Priscila Morsoletto wrote: > > On 22 May 99 at 23:58, Jules Seifert wrote: > > >Get Real folks, please read the archives, and find out how many times > >we've had this 'exclusive' news . ;-) > > I see that situation well different. First, in that CD Store where you can > ORDER that new album, if it a hoax anybody can process them. And that album > have a serial number too. I doesn't think a CD Store will make a hoax about it. > > Here is a japanese CD Store talking about that album, the URL is here: > http://www.seikodo.co.jp/hotmenu/9701-1.html > [japanese only page] > > Folks, I'm totally confused. I don't know if I can believe in it or not... =( christ sake, we've had loads of albums with serial numbers in the last 3 years, none of which have surfaced, and really, what about 'technopop' eh? Tsk, that had a serial number too. ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pointed hat boy" Subject: (kw) Hi everybody! (Ciao a tutti!) Date: 23 May 1999 09:29:50 +0200 Hi robots, I'm Simone from Italy. I'm very happy knowing people interested in KW too. I'm a Pet Shop Boys fan but I like KW very much and i'm firmly convinced that techno-pop and synthetic music begun since they appeared on the scenes from the first time.Surely also PSB take KW as example for the music they make. First of all I have to thank der automat for giving me answers on infos about them. I have some questions: 1) Is it true that KW have build from themeselves some of their instruments? 2) I've never listened to Organisation-Tone Float. What other kw album could be compared to? To kw1 and kw2? 3) Where can I find an english translation of the deutsch lyrics of RADIO-ACTIVITY album? 4) is there any other Italian kw fan on the list? Grazie! Simone. "By pressing down a special key, it plays a little melody!" -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Hi everybody! (Ciao a tutti!) Date: 23 May 1999 20:13:06 +0200 Pointed hat boy wrote: > 3) Where can I find an english translation of the deutsch lyrics of > RADIO-ACTIVITY album? http://www.lyrics.ch/search/checknormal.asp?bands=Kraftwerk&label=&song=&match=exact Lyrics.ch is a very good archive for lyrics for almost all artist. -- <----------Finarvas----------> <------finarvas@linux.nu-----> <------come.to/finarvas/-----> <------Karl-------Herolf-----> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Apologies RE: MP3s Date: 23 May 1999 13:20:19 -0600 (MDT) On Sat, 22 May 1999, Bill Dobiesz wrote: > My ISP has a size limit for file attaches, and these are all over that > limit. I have a program (someplace) that is used to break up larger > files, but if I break them, you will have to re-assemble them. They are > re-assembled with a simple batch file that is generated by the program. What program, for what OS? If it's a DOS, Linux or Win95 program, zip it up and send it to me along with the file chunks (one MP3 per day at most, please), and I'll reassemble them and make them available to others. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) KW video Date: 23 May 1999 17:32:56 -0600 (MDT) Last year, there was a fellow on the list who was going to compile all the KW video stuff we had onto tape and return copies to us. I sent him a videotape with my stuff on it, and I think a number of others did too, but he never got back to us. Does anyone have an update on this project, or did he just make off with our tapes? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: (kw) TEE played on 97.1FM, NYC. Date: 23 May 1999 20:26:53 Yep, radio HOT97 FM in New York City is playing "Trans-Europe Express" as I sit and type this. I guess that doesn't sound terribly exciting, but from my perspective it's pretty cool seeing as how I've only heard KW played NYC radio stations a few times in the last 10 years. If anyone's wondering, HOT97 is an all hip-hop/ R&B station. They're having a "classic showcase old-school" evening, and hence the Kraftwerk. Woohoo :-) nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." P.S. - Ralf & Florian - Please release that album soon, my posts are suffering here. hehe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) TEE played on 97.1FM, NYC. Date: 23 May 1999 20:56:07 -0500 nebulous@erols.com wrote: > Yep, radio HOT97 FM in New York City is playing "Trans-Europe > Express" as I sit and type this. I guess that doesn't sound > terribly exciting, but from my perspective it's pretty cool seeing as > how I've only heard KW played NYC radio stations a few times in > the last 10 years. If anyone's wondering, HOT97 is an all hip-hop/ > R&B station. They're having a "classic showcase old-school" evening, > and hence the Kraftwerk. Woohoo :-) Maybe they were playing the Mix version as a tribute to Bela Abzug. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephenv@sirius.com (stephen vesecky) Date: 23 May 1999 23:28:46 -0800 I think that kraftwerk is interesting for their ability to communicate with their audience in such a deep way, with little apparent effort. only a handful of classic albums. how did they do it? perhaps it is their consistency in presenting their image. their warholian ability to give the impression that their personal lives really are like their art. i think that 'the hall of mirrors' is a fairly warholian song. of course, i suppose all those people, like bowie and iggy pop, the velvet underground, roxy music, the talking heads, the mid 70's new york punk groups were all pretty warhol influenced. i guess kraftwerk just added this a german dimension to it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) TEE played on 97.1FM, NYC. Date: 24 May 1999 08:59:39 Bob VonMoss wrote: >Maybe they were playing the Mix version as a tribute to Bela Abzug. Oh ya, I forgot to mention that it was the original 1977 version that they played, seeing as how it was a "classic showcase old-school" specialty program. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marc Plainguet" Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 24 May 1999 08:41:06 -0700 -----Original Message----- Cc: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com > >Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >> >> On 22 May 99 at 23:58, Jules Seifert wrote: >> >> >Get Real folks, please read the archives, and find out how many times >> >we've had this 'exclusive' news . ;-) I'll believe there's a new Kraftwerk CD after I buy it and it's playing in my CD player. - Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) Planet Rock Date: 24 May 1999 11:22:35 -0400 My own earlier comments: > As does all but the most minimal sampling, yet there's a market for it, > that snaps the shit > up as if it were original, or interesting, or in some way related to what > is being sampled. > > It isn't. Solieil's comments: In your opinion. In my opinion, it is. We've been through this before. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre And my comments on that: Sure we've been through it before, but heck it seems to be a discussion worth revisiting, if we've been through the tour of "planet rock" 1000 times on the list.My pointing out that I believe that planet rock is about as relevant to a discussion of Kraftwerk as is a discussion of ANY song that rips off (or nicks, or borrows) parts of other songs is to the discussion of those songs, or the artists that wrote them. If (and it does) the Jam's "START!" has the same bassline as the Beatles "Taxman" - that is about all I'd care to hear on the subject. If I were on a Beatles mailing list, or a Jam mailing list, I think I'd have the same reaction to somebody constantly trying to find other bands that use Beatles chord progressions, or bass lines. Or other Jam songs that lift bass lines from other songs, (hey, some of 'em are right out of "The Midnight Hour"!). I mean, so what? Somehow is it more "clever" to sample a song than it is to just purely take chord progressions? I don't think so. Its a common rock thing, and generally the "copy" song is not as good as the original ("Start" withstanding) I think folks believe because it is "sampling" that it makes it some kind of new and exciting statement automatically. I don't think this is true, although I'll admit it might be subjective. I can't think of the title of the song but it's by "Fatboy Slim" that nicks the Who's (not a sample of, by the way) "Can't Explain". I don't think the Who list would be all that likely to be discussing Fatboy Slim every day, or discussing the Clash, since they nick the same chords for at least 3 separate songs. The piano triplet in Elvis Costello's "Oliver's Army" is lifted straight from ABBA's "Dancing Queen". That is just pure trivia, and I don't know, but I don't really need a Kraftwerk trivia list, particularly if the trivia is relevant only to people that collect disposeable dance mixes of songs that contain KW references. Does anybody really think that DJ Don Werk is making a lasting statement on the same level as KW? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: RE: (kw) afrika bambataa Date: 24 May 1999 18:35:23 +0200 On Tue, 18 May 1999 14:44:22 PDT, miffo man wrote: > >And one the 1992 re-issue of this record Electric Music has made a over 9 >minutes long super nice remix of this track! (with sampling) On which release from Elektric Music was it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) EM "Sunshine" Date: 24 May 1999 10:09:05 -0700 If any of you have a MP3 of Electric Music's "Sunshine", would you please e-mail me a copy? I have the Japanese release of that CD, and I love it. I remember seeing some audio samples in a SPV site, maybe a year ago, but I couldn't download them at that time, and unfortunately that site is not available anymore :-( BTW, the unavailable url is: http://www.spv.de/Bands/deutsch/ElectricMusic01.html Thanks, Enrique KW 4ever! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paolo G. Cordone" Subject: Re: (kw) Hi everybody! (Ciao a tutti!) Date: 24 May 1999 17:15:25 +0100 At 9:29 +0200 23/5/1999, Pointed hat boy wrote: >4) is there any other Italian kw fan on the list? > > >Grazie! Born in Italy, yes, living there, not anymore. I have been a Kraftwerk fan since 1977 when I was 11! In recent times my interest has shifted towards classical music, but I still enjoy listening to my Kraftwerk LPs when I am in the right mood. And it is incredible how ahead of their time they were, considering that things like The Mac Machine was released in 1978! It's hard to believe, really :-) Paolo --- Paolo G. Cordone pamolo@indigo.ie http://indigo.ie/~pamolo/ "Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Brand New Album again!!! Date: 24 May 1999 10:39:07 PDT OK, guys, Here we go again... the next two months will be dedicated to the "biggest New of The Year": the NEW KW ALBUM!!! Oh, come on, how many times we heared about it here in this list? Look, it's NOT true KW will release a new record (IMHO, they will never release a new record again, but it's just MY oppinion). Let's think with our heads: 1. Why just one on line store have the information about the new release (including a single) and ALL the other stores will not receive this disc? 2. Why the world press have no info about it? 3. Why KW official site have no information about it? 4. We have a lot of guys from Japan here in this list. Considering it's a japanese release, why they had no info about it? 5. Why EMI have no information about it? 6. I saw a new release item on Esprit and CD Zone many times, including catalogue numbers, but all were deleted. 7. Why from time to time we have this "news" here? It looks like that stuppid spam mails... save Taliban or send this for 10 friends or a piano will smash your head... For that who still believe this is a REAL new release, please order the item from the store and wait for it. But please sit, because it will take a long time... And please, let me know if you will be talking about it for the next two months, because I will soon unsubscribe the list and will be back just in August, OK? IMHO we are loosing the rational sense here... The only real good step with this "new" is you forgot the Affffrrrriiicccaaaaaannnn Bbbaaaaammmmbbbaaatttaaaa Planet Rock single. Oh Jesus!!! This is the consequence of be a great fan of a band which doesn't release any single song for 12 years... maybe I should love Prince (ops, TAFKAP), because he release e triple CD and hundreds of singles every year!!! peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: RE: (kw) afrika bambaataa Date: 24 May 1999 13:19:11 -0500 A good AU sample of planet Rock: http://yomama.bus.miami.edu/~ldouglas/house/media/sounds/old/planetrk.au A lousy RA link http://media.addict.com/music/Afrika_Bamabaataa_And_Soul_Sonic_Force/ The same beat was also used in many of Egyptian Lover's songs - Egypt Egypt is one. I never recall reading about E-Lover being influenced by Kraftwerk. Any comments? Also: "Rap already had firm musical roots in Jamaican musical styles and Muhammad Ali's rhyming taunts among other sources. But Bambaataa broke the boundaries of existing hip-hop conventions through his use of programmed beats in the seminal 1982 single and album Planet Rock - which was based on his love of German electronica pioneers Kraftwerk, and Trans-Europe Express in particular. " Find the above article in its entirety at: http://www.scotsman.com/search/bl/01/bl01bamm980925.html Also: "ORIGINS OF FREESTYLE MUSIC... Electro was the fantastic sound of a long moment in the early '80s. A silly robotic funk of huge beats, video-game bleeps, and synthesizer boogie. It began in 1982, when a Bronx DJ named Afrika Bambaataa used a couple of turntables and a recording studio to stitch the icy melodies of Kraftwerk to the playful grooves of proto-hip-hop. In a fit of funky multi-culturalism, Bambaataa called his jam "Planet Rock"..." find more at http://www.fernz.pair.com/Freestyle/origins.htm Also: "Electro ist die konsequente Weiterentwicklung des Krautrock der frühen 70er Jahre und bezieht sich wie kein anderer Techno-Style auf die deutschen Avantgardisten Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze oder Can. Zur gleichen Zeit entstand in Amerika die schwarze Breakdance-Szene, deren MCs (Masters Of Ceremony) die Crowd mit Sprechgesang bei Laune hielten, während ein DJ die Zeremonie mit Scratches und Backspins von alten Soulplatten unterstützte. " More at http://www.hh-live.de/goon/definator/techno/electro.html Dziekuje bardzo, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Planet Rock Date: 24 May 1999 12:48:25 -0600 (MDT) On Mon, 24 May 1999 Fred_Harding@idx.com wrote: > Sure we've been through it before, but heck it seems to be a discussion > worth revisiting, Why? We just go over the same argument every time. It always boils down to a matter of opinion. > if we've been through the tour of "planet rock" 1000 times on the list.My > pointing out that I believe > that planet rock is about as relevant to a discussion of Kraftwerk as is a > discussion of ANY song that rips off I think Planet Rock and Afrika Bambaataa are relevant in the sense that they're thought to have been a great help in introducing the U.S.A. to KW. But nothing more than that. > I think folks believe because it is "sampling" that it makes it some kind > of new and exciting statement automatically. I don't care about statements and posturing. That's for Prince. As I've said before, all I care about is what sounds good to my ear, and KW and KW samples generally sound good. > mixes of songs that contain KW references. Does anybody really think that > DJ Don Werk is making a lasting statement on the same level as KW? I don't, but if he moves past merely sampling KW and beats a new path, he could be great. There are lots of great musicians who claim KW as influences and/or have sampled KW in the past who now have their own distinctive style. I think that borrowing from your musical influences in one way or another is a stage most musicians go through before going their own way. It's a way to become known while building your skills. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) afrika bambaataa Date: 24 May 1999 13:46:27 -0500 Chris Stann wrote: > A good AU sample of planet Rock: > http://yomama.bus.miami.edu/~ldouglas/house/media/sounds/old/planetrk.au It's currently posted in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1980s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Kerbrat Subject: RE: (kw) afrika bambataa Date: 24 May 1999 15:46:14 -0200 >On Tue, 18 May 1999 14:44:22 PDT, miffo man wrote: > >> >>And one the 1992 re-issue of this record Electric Music has made a over 9 >>minutes long super nice remix of this track! (with sampling) > >On which release from Elektric Music was it? "Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force" : "Don't Stop...Planet Rock". My copy is the french edition, released by Fnac Music (yes, for a very short period of time, they released some good stuff), ref. 592081. 1992, copyright Tommy Boy. Here's the track listing. 1 Original Vocal Version (Bambaataa) 6:22 2 Bonus Beats (Bambaataa) 1:06 3 Classic Mix (Elekrik Music) 9:06 4 In The Pocket Mix (Erik Kupper-Mohamed Morietta) 5:04 5 House Mix II (LFO) 5:48 6 Bass In The Planet Mix (Dj Magic Mike) 8:15 7 Planet Rock 2000 Mix (808 State) 4:39 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force - The Remix EP Date: 24 May 1999 16:38:25 -0300 > >On Tue, 18 May 1999 14:44:22 PDT, miffo man wrote: > > > >> > >>And one the 1992 re-issue of this record Electric Music has made a > over 9 > >>minutes long super nice remix of this track! (with sampling) > > > >On which release from Elektric Music was it? > > "Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force" : "Don't Stop...Planet Rock". > > > I have a copy: TBCD 1052 manufactured in the US by WEA manufacturing > distributed by Tommy Boy Music INC. > > Track listing: > > 1 Original Vocal Version (Bambaataa) 6:22 > 2 Bonus Beats (Bambaataa) 1:06 > 3 Classic Mix (ElektricMusic) 9:16 > (remix produced and programmed by KARL BARTOS and Lothar Manteuffel > for ELEKTRIC MUSIC productions) > 4 In The Pocket Mix (Erik Kupper-Mohamed Moretta) 5:04 > 5 House Mix II (LFO) > 5:48 > 6 Bass In The Planet Mix (Dj MagicMike) 8:15 > 7 Planet Rock 2000 Mix (808State) 4:39 > > -- > ===================================== > Victor Miranda > vmiranda@urbi.com.br > http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda > ===================================== -- ===================================== Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda ===================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 24 May 1999 16:49:01 EDT In a message dated 23/05/99 17:44:59 GMT Daylight Time, jseifert@technologist.com writes: << christ sake, we've had loads of albums with serial numbers in the last 3 years, none of which have surfaced, and really, what about 'technopop' eh? Tsk, that had a serial number too. ;-) >> yes, the appearance of Technopop was more likely than the "new album", since it had not only an EMI catalogue number, but also draft ad campaign material. BTW: I'd like to auction my Technopop promotional button badge. This extremely rare promo item (for distribution to music industry insiders only) is one of only 50 test button pressings. The remaining 49 remain in possession of the artists, their close family and the Guggenheim Museum. Start bidding at half a million. Euro, of course. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 24 May 1999 15:24:27 -0700 I remember reading somewhere that Peter Gabriel (stay tuned for his new "Up" release) complained, sometime ago (while skiing in Switzerland, probably) about the pressure the musicians received from their fans and the critics about the frequency of releasing new material; not being the same as the pressure a writer or a painter received at their end; being all of them artists, they should all be "treated" equally, if a good quality of material is expected. Anyway, I guess that the artist's productivity in whatever the field might be, it depends on a matter of inspiration, amount of enthusiasm and inventiveness, and maybe, only maybe the magnitude and quality of hallucination and vision the drugs may give them (oops, did I said that?). Ralf and Co. can sit their asses on their Kling Klang studio, waiting for some magical inspiration, or even for that special "slow boat delivery" package from the Red Zone; since they don't have to comply with a record deal asking them to release a record every other year or whatever, I guess they can do whatever they want with their free time... even take their boyfriends (oops did I said that? no that is anything wrong with that!!! of course not!!!) to some German hi-tech-expo or even check out Milan's new fashion trend at Frankfurt's Rodeo Drive or just plain and simple, sit back and relax... for my money, they've already made it to the top, and there is no need to release anything else, if they don't want to. In the meantime, I'll keep putting my money in low quality bootlegs, dozens of bad tributes and so-so re-mixes, as well as in anything that Bartos and Flur put their hands on... (sometimes I wonder if KW will ever be the same without them... I know, "The Mix" was good, but it wasn't new). In any case, I only hope that Electric Music, Yamo, and Komputer don't let go their muses of inspiration for extremely long periods of time, and always leave them handy... as for the rest of the 3.000.000 techno bands of the world, if they can get rid of their silly muses and trade them for some of KW's muses of inspiration in any European Flea Market, so you can all start doing some ground-breaking music for a change, it will be greatly appreciated on this side of the counter ;-) KW4ever!! Enrique BTW... enough of Afrika Baambaataa (did I spell that right? I hope NOT) I'll rather talk about William (read: Genius, I'll take my hat off 4 u anytime, Master of the Senses) Orbit's remix of Radioactivity. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "OVAL" Subject: Re: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 24 May 1999 20:07:56 -0500 >they can do whatever they want with their free time... even take their >boyfriends (oops did I said that? no that is anything wrong with that!!! of >course not!!!) to some German hi-tech-expo or even check out Milan's new >fashion trend at Frankfurt's Rodeo Drive or just plain and simple, sit back Were you afriad to offend anyone? Look, If you don't agree with what gay men do in their private time, just say so. If you agree with it, say so too. We DON'T have to freaking politically correct all the time. I think there would be something wrong with Karl and Florian giving each other blow jobs during concert beaks. I think it's biologically incorrect, disgusting, and sinfull. Period. I would still buy their records. Go figure. Do any Kraftwerk members have children? Wives? Boyfriends? Do we know? They anonimity is only bested by Elvis, and he's dead. If they do have children, they could start KRAFTWERK JR. >BTW... enough of Afrika Baambaataa (did I spell that right? I hope NOT) I'll >rather talk about William (read: Genius, I'll take my hat off 4 u anytime, >Master of the Senses) Orbit's remix of Radioactivity. I do like Orbit's remix very much. I think it's one of the best remix/covers/rip-offs (whatever you want to call it) made to date. It fuses modern day dance beat with Kraftwerk's raw sound. Jeez, Isn't that what Afrika Bambaataa did in '82? Besides, we were just getting to the good, juicy, detailed information on how Kraftwerk, inadvertently or else, influenced EVERYBODY since KC and the Sunshine Band. Call the genealogy of Pop Music. And, like it or not, rap falls into the Pop category these days. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 25 May 1999 02:44:43 +0000 MERSEYCHAM@aol.com wrote: >BTW: I'd like to auction my Technopop promotional button badge. This >extremely rare promo item (for distribution to music industry insiders only) >is one of only 50 test button pressings. The remaining 49 remain in >possession of the artists, their close family and the Guggenheim Museum. > >Start bidding at half a million. Euro, of course. that's what, $0.50 cents american, i'll bid a whole $1! i just hope Ralf does not bid against me, he's been looking for the long lost 50th button badge for 16 years. hey, maybe we can use this button as a barganing chip. Ralf can't have it until they release a new album. who's with me on this one!? lenny g B. S. actually, i am looking forward to the day when KW become financially stressed and are forced to sell Kling Klang. and beleive me, they would make a whole lot more money selling their gear than making a new album. i hear that "the mix" jar is running dry. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 25 May 1999 09:42:49 +0100 >is one of only 50 test button pressings. The remaining 49 remain in >possession of the artists, their close family and the Guggenheim Museum. > >Start bidding at half a million. Euro, of course. that's what, $0.50 cents american, i'll bid a whole $1! ok, i'll beat that, how about 25p UK, that'll be more than a dollar surely ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 09:46:01 +0100 >They anonimity is only bested by Elvis, and he's dead. bollocks, he's alive and well, and living on the moon, i refer you to the UK daily sport for more evidence. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Di Sante" Subject: (kw) New KW's album Date: 25 May 1999 01:17:53 +0200 Hi everybody, yesterday I went into the cd's store near the place where I live and I asked for the new KW's album. The clerk gave me the cd and then I turned back in my home to listen to it. I put the cd into the cd player, and the headphones on my head. Then I pushed the "play" and.....PUFFF!!!!! It's a dream ;-> Didi Milan - PDN di.di@tiscalinet.it # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK... SINGLE? Date: 25 May 1999 11:53:07 +0300 Strange enough, but noone here noticed that KW single was listed either. Does it implies that there were some rumors about it? Anyone knows? Klaus? And at least, now we have a good chances to have an unreleased single in addition to a bunch of unreleased albums :) -- Eugene Zaikonnikov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: (kw) My opinion on KWs "New Album" Date: 25 May 1999 04:18:33 PDT Hello all Recently we had on this list an extensive discussion about whether or not KW will release a new album. I believe that they probably won´t, and i think that because it would be against everything that KW stands for. I mean, one of their greatest advantages to other electronic bands, has always been that they´ve always been first and innovative. Nowadays though their music isn´t that "fresh" anymore (don´t get me wrong, they´re still the best) and my guess would be that they won´t release anything that makes them just another electronic band, drifting a bit to far into the techno-swamp. Listening to the sondclips found on different bootlegs, of their "new songs" (numweltverschmutsung, tribal and Luton ho, or what ever they´re called), you find that they are lame techno songs like everyone else produced in the early nineties. My conclusion is that; If i were KW, i would´nt release anything until i was sure that it was innovative and new, and considering the speed at which the modern music evolves i´d find it very hard to ever be really "first" with anything, thus there will be NO new KW album (at least not for long) Bye, Peder ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) New Album & Single :) Date: 25 May 1999 08:00:54 PDT Okay, I know that you are in an uprorar over the posting that I made a few days ago regarding the "new" album and single. But I ask that you wouldn't take offense to me, but that you would rather e-mail the shit out of the record store that I gave you all links to and ask them where they get their information from. It really sounds like nonsense to me as well, but anything is possible. For example, who the hell actually thought that Art of Noise would release a new record after 10 years ? Surely everyone thought that their sound had died out, but they are back with a bang and the fans are still there. Now even though AON doesn't have too much to do with KW, let's just say that anything is possible. They still haven't officially broken up yet, they finally toured again, and they are the only group made up of men in their 50's that still look good on stage (sorry Rolling Stones !!!) . Let's not rule out the magic of possibility. And the new songs weren't bad. At least they were new; that's all that matters to me. And who said that they were finished anyway ? Has anyone ever heard of an editing room ? NOISEWERKER _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: (kw) Let's pretend Date: 25 May 1999 10:23:35 -0500 Let's pretend we're Kraftwerk. 1. We don't have to make any new records, because like disco, we just keep playing the same old stuff. 2. Every once in a while, we tour the "world", and our rabid fans will always buy our concert tickets. 3. We don't have to do any interviews with MTV, VH1, or, at our age, The History Channel. 4. We keep telling our fans the new recordings will surface "next year" 5. We tease the audience by playing some new tune and tell them it could be the next record. We don't tell them we've made that recording 8 years ago, back when we still could compose something. 6. We re-release our recordings from 1976 every few years so we can pay the rent. 7. We keep speculations and rumors high, because it makes us money. 9. We are retired, and we REALLY just want to go for a bike ride. and finally: 10. Our motto: "Why work more than you have to. We did that 20 years ago." Now, would you release a new recording if YOU were Kraftwerk? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Brown (The Data Base - Nottm.)" Subject: RE: (kw) Let's pretend Date: 25 May 1999 16:43:50 +0100 I'm not sure about anybody else, but I have faith in the fact that human nature ensures that we continue to try out new things. Kraftwerk may not acheive a similar critical acclaim from any new material they release, but it's a far surer way of 'paying the rent'. I fail to believe that these people who still have the energy and will to go touring every so often, do not have a similar desire to release some new tracks. If they were so self-satisfied with their previous output, do you really think they would be content as artists to think that the last bit of original music they left us with was Electric Cafe ? I think not. I think the pressure on them is so great, that they simply can't get their shit together to actually release a new album that deserves the name 'Kraftwerk' on it. But I do believe they are trying. The only reason I'm on this mailing list is to get the first whiff on the new album, and I think it's quite healthy that we're focused on this rather than what number is dialled at the beginning of 'Telephone Call' and all that gubbins. MJB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Let's pretend Date: 25 May 1999 17:38:07 +0200 On Tue, 25 May 1999 10:23:35 -0500, Chris Stann wrote: >Now, would you release a new recording if YOU were Kraftwerk? no. They don't need to do so. and according to the news tracks performed live, I would encourage them to keep these tracks for their own enjoyment. Instead, they should rerelease albums with a remastered sound & bonus tracks & live stuff. They should , more importantely, release "Tour de France" on CD. It's a shame this tracks is still not officially available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 16:35:08 +0100 OVAL wrote: >too. We DON'T have to freaking politically correct all the time. I think >there would be something wrong with Karl and Florian giving each other blow >jobs during concert beaks. I think it's biologically incorrect, disgusting, >and sinfull. Period. I would still buy their records. Go figure. We have to say to Kraftwerk: we enjoy your electronic melodies and your painstakingly synthesised sounds. But if you turn up on stage, performing intimate acts upon each other and upsetting the wife and kiddies, we say "Oi! Kraftwerk! NO!" >Do any Kraftwerk members have children? Wives? Boyfriends? Do we know? What's the tally... Let's see... Ralf has a sister? Florian has a girlfriend and groupies and no robots (nor Robot). Wolfgang has a girlfriend, last we heard... But, what do we care anyway. >They anonimity is only bested by Elvis, and he's dead. Or The Residents. >If they do have >children, they could start KRAFTWERK JR. Or, as with Tangerine Dream, maybe they could join the family business. KB PS 'The Kraftwerk Kids'... sounds like a new animated adventure series... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) OFF TOPIC: Gary Numan / Tubeway Army Date: 25 May 1999 12:44:51 -0400 I know this is off topic, but I know there are some Gary Numan fans here... I recently got my hands on a promo copy of First Album by Tubeway Army featuring Gary Numan. (1978) I don't know how common it is worldwide, but they're one of those groups I've only heard of, I never really heard them in any detail. (like The Strawbs) I saw the album in a used record store and I grabbed it. Does anyone know how this album compares to other Tubeway Army stuff, or if they even did anything else? Please respond privately, so as not to keep this off-topic thread going. Huggy Bear np: Klingklang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 12:33:41 -0400 >>They anonimity is only bested by Elvis, and he's dead. >bollocks, he's alive and well, and living on the moon, i refer you to the UK >daily sport for more evidence. Both wrong...he's living in Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA...and hangs out at the Burger King and several donut shops. Read it first in the National Enquirer! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 25 May 1999 12:55:36 -0400 >>Start bidding at half a million. Euro, of course. >that's what, $0.50 cents american, i'll bid a whole $1! >ok, i'll beat that, how about 25p UK, that'll be more than a dollar surely OK, let's make this an "international thing" I bid a Carter Quarter and a Loon I can up it by 25 lira if you wish. You pay postage. (Carter Quarter - Susan B. Anthony US 1 Dollar coin) (Loon - Canada 1 Dollar coin) Huggy Bear np: Tubeway Army - Everyday I Die # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) New Album & Single :) Date: 25 May 1999 11:56:18 -0400 -----Original Message----- >Okay, I know that you are in an uprorar over the posting that I made a few >days ago regarding the "new" album and single. But I ask that you wouldn't >take offense to me, but that you would rather e-mail the shit out of the >record store that I gave you all links to and ask them where they get their >information from. It really sounds like nonsense to me as well, but anything >is possible. For example, who the hell actually thought that Art of Noise >would release a new record after 10 years ? Surely everyone thought that >their sound had died out, but they are back with a bang and the fans are >still there. Now even though AON doesn't have too much to do with KW, let's >just say that anything is possible. They still haven't officially broken up >yet, they finally toured again, and they are the only group made up of men >in their 50's that still look good on stage (sorry Rolling Stones !!!) . >Let's not rule out the magic of possibility. And the new songs weren't bad. >At least they were new; that's all that matters to me. And who said that >they were finished anyway ? Has anyone ever heard of an editing room ? Who knows? Maybe the boys are going to fool us all and REALLY release an album. How many of us didn't believe the news at first that they were touring? I know I didn't. I wonder if they have decided that they're getting old, but they still have a lot of fans - maybe they shouldn't be too hasty to turn their backs. How many groups can you think of that have been around 30+ years that can STILL draw the kind of crowds that KW can (worldwide)? Very few, I think. The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan...maybe a few others. I don't think it's a bright move on KW 's part to keep their recordings as they stand. I bet most groups would have re-released their albums (especially up to R&F), and dig up those Technopop masters and put them out. Huggy Bear np: Bowwowwow - I Want Candy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 10:14:25 PDT Another thing : At least I wasn't enough of a dick to pull that stunt one person did on April 1st (anyone remember ?). Now that was fucked up. Does EMI Electrola have an E-Mail address ? Bug the shit out of them. I don't know. At least KW will always be the greatest group in the world; better than the Beatles, Michael Jackson, and Elvis combined. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 13:17:14 -0400 ----Original Message----- >We have to say to Kraftwerk: we enjoy your electronic melodies and your >painstakingly synthesised sounds. But if you turn up on stage, performing >intimate acts upon each other and upsetting the wife and kiddies, we say >"Oi! Kraftwerk! NO!" Personally, the acts wouldn't upset me nearly as much as I would be upset for seeing a concert and getting a sex show. Hey - I know! They could make videos, sold only in those "special stores" (of course it would have to be made in all the popular formats - NTSC, Pal-M, PAL-G, SECAM, whatever...). I can see it now: "Florian Does Nothing" "Ralf The Robot" More titles soon to cum... Huggy Bear (sick puppy) >PS 'The Kraftwerk Kids'... sounds like a new animated adventure series... Or something VERY strange... How about "Kraftwerk Meets The Teletubbies"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Let's pretend Date: 25 May 1999 19:36:58 +0200 I don't know but I just think he's funny =) And hey.. the most important of being a real fan of something is discuss irellevant stuff.. I mean just look at all the Star Trek sites.. Romulan Ale? haha! -- <----------Finarvas----------> <------finarvas@linux.nu-----> <------come.to/finarvas/-----> <------Karl-------Herolf-----> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) KW Family Date: 25 May 1999 11:16:44 PDT As far as I know, Florian is married and has a daughter. BTW, his daughter came with him to Brazil last year to see the concerts. Ralf lives with his sister's family. I'm not sure about it. Anybody could confirm this information? Kling Klang studio remains at the same address. I don't have any info about the other two, but I think Karl is in love with Electronic (Barney, Marr or both?). Wolfgang should have an italian girlfriend, considering the italian lyrics in Time Pie. hehehe... Well, I have a question about Wolfgang: he came from an italian family? IMHO, his face is so much italian, don't you think? I have an idea for the KW kids: why not make a band called NEW KRAFTS ON THE BLOCK or even KRAFTSTREET BOYS??? peace Nicolau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 11:56:35 -0700 >Were you afriad to offend anyone? Look, If you don't agree with what gay >men do in their private time, just say so. If you agree with it, say so >too. We DON'T have to freaking politically correct all the time. I think >there would be something wrong with Karl and Florian giving each other blow >jobs during concert beaks. I think it's biologically incorrect, disgusting, >and sinfull. Period. I would still buy their records. Go figure I don't want to please or offend anybody, and I don't care for being politically correct or incorrect. I said it before and I will say it again: they can do whatever they want with their free time. They can do drugs and walk in the streets with their boyfriends if that's what it pleases them. I don't know if they r gay or not, and if they r, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, they can have Robo-Orgies while playing "Tour (ahhhhhh) De (ohhhhh) France" in their Kling "Biosphere" Klang studio with showroom dummies, man machines or huge slamming dildos for all I care. I will still buy their new record, even if it sounds like recycled crap from the eighties (too bad I can't say the same for Jean Michel Jarre and Tangerine Dream, their recycled crap is truly annoying). >Do any Kraftwerk members have children? Wives? Boyfriends? Do we know? >They anonimity is only bested by Elvis, and he's dead. If they do have >children, they could start KRAFTWERK JR. If they do have kids, I hope they are clones and when they grow, they'll get to kick some serious fricking ASS like their daddies did... As for Elvis... he's not dead... he's still kicking at it in Vegas. He was last seen with Austin Powers participating in a smashing shindig by the strip... >I do like Orbit's remix very much. I think it's one of the best >remix/covers/rip-offs (whatever you want to call it) made to date. It fuses >modern day dance beat with Kraftwerk's raw sound. Jeez, Isn't that what >Afrika Bambaataa did in '82? Besides, we were just getting to the good, >juicy, detailed information on how Kraftwerk, inadvertently or else, >influenced EVERYBODY since KC and the Sunshine Band. Call the genealogy of >Pop Music. KW influenced a lot of artists, just like The Beatles, The Beach Boys and Karlheinz Stockhausen did influenced them; but being realistic, they didn't had an influence on "everybody", although having influenced musicians like Neil Young, Bowie, Brian Eno, Aphex Twin, Joy Division, Gary Numan, some rappers; among many many many others, looks pretty damn good in any resume, if you ask me; but I have a really hard time believing they've influenced people like Ricky Martin, Los Del Rio and The BS (read: Backstreet) Boys.. >And, like it or not, rap falls into the Pop category these days Rap falls into their own category at the Tower Records and Best Buy nearby stores, and in some places, they're not even in public display, you have to go to the counter and ask for them. Anyway... While coming to work today I was thinking... Ralf and Florian should release their next CD under Ralf and Florian, and not under Kraftwerk, as a tribute to Karl and Wolfgang... I know, I'd better stop this non-sense... KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: intenge@lagosnet.com.br Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 15:42:48 -0300 > >PS 'The Kraftwerk Kids'... sounds like a new animated adventure series... > > Or something VERY strange... > > How about "Kraftwerk Meets The Teletubbies"? > So, how about Beavis and Butt-Head? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: intenge@lagosnet.com.br Subject: (kw) Hey, I have it !!!!!!!! Date: 25 May 1999 15:37:46 -0300 I have the New KW album of KW. It's name is "Stop Spam about Our New Album". And I've heard that they are in studio recording another new album... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: RE: (kw) Hey, I have it !!!!!!!! Date: 25 May 1999 14:11:44 -0500 >I have the New KW album of KW. It's name is "Stop Spam about Our New >Album". >And I've heard that they are in studio recording another new album... This one must be called "We influenced Afrika Bambaataa to do Planet Rock." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: Re: (kw) New Album Date: 25 May 1999 21:33:33 +0200 > know. At least KW will always be the greatest group in the world; better > than the Beatles, Michael Jackson, and Elvis combined. Hmmm, Beatles, Michael Jackson, and Elvis combined eh? Aahaah, Free As A Turd, Auh! Cos I'm All Shook Up, oeh ah! Doesn't sound right, does it? Not even close to a greatest band in the world... Jeroen -- WORK: Crime is a job. Sex is a job. Growing up is a job. School is a job. Going to parties is a job. Religion is a job. Being creative is a job. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) sellafield video Date: 18 May 1999 13:27:12 +0100 Has anybody seen this live video with excerpts from the 92 G-Mex show? is it any good? -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Tour De Kraft update. Date: 26 May 1999 00:55:41 +0100 Hi, New MP3's from the 1981 tour (Computers in Love bootleg). Hall of Mirrors Mitternacht Les Mannequins There are 2 cover versions on offer this time, first off is the guitar driven version of 'Computer Love' by 'Slipstream'. The other track is Chris Whitley's acoustic version of 'The Model' brought to life as Ralf and Florian originally intended it to be... on the banjo. :) Mike. Kraftwerk 1981 live and Cover Versions. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: drew dibble Subject: Re: (kw) KW Family Date: 25 May 1999 22:41:03 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 25 May 1999, Nicolau Centola wrote: | As far as I know, Florian is married and has a daughter. BTW, his daughter | came with him to Brazil last year to see the concerts. was she the attractive blue-haired female sitting with him for some pictures i saw? (i believe at tg97's site?) | I have an idea for the KW kids: why not make a band called NEW KRAFTS ON THE | BLOCK or even KRAFTSTREET BOYS??? krafty-eight degrees? k*werk? :) -drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: Re: (kw) KW Family Date: 26 May 1999 00:16:18 -0300 On 25 May 99 at 22:41, drew dibble wrote: >>As far as I know, Florian is married and has a daughter. BTW, his daughter >>came with him to Brazil last year to see the concerts. >was she the attractive blue-haired female sitting with him for some >pictures i saw? (i believe at tg97's site?) No, that blue-haired female (sigh!) is just a brazillian model. That pictures you see are from Florian's interview. She is there working on "Free Jazz Festival". His daughter have 5/6-years-old, can anybody confirm it??? Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Priscila Morsoletto" Subject: (kw) MY opinion about "new album" Date: 26 May 1999 00:44:46 -0300 Greetings, First, I'm *NOT* interessed in this new album itself, I don't much care about it. I just really want to see a concert and I unfortunately know they'll NOT make any concert in anyware of the PLANET before release new material. Note: I lost their concert in the last year. *sigh* Come on everybody... IMHO they works from "The Mix" are good. And from their last tour (97/98) are just PERFECT. Also I love their new unfinished songs and all of it show their talent by making musics. Talent what they already have!!!! They didn't lost it!!!!! They'll release an album, we only need to wait. Really, I think in this moment, the next millennium is there now... it's a cool moment to them make an album!!! I believe they'll release something soon. Please all, it's JUST my OPNION! Don't flame me if you think different of me. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) sellafield video Date: 26 May 1999 07:41:57 +0100 At 1:27 pm +0100 18/5/99, Mark Reed wrote: >Has anybody seen this live video with excerpts from the 92 G-Mex show? >is it any good? It's better than nothing, but the material is treated with no respect by the compilers of the video. Performances by the other bands on the video are presented without much interruption, but the Kraftwerk songs are punctuated with Greenpeace's material about the Sellafield plant, almost as if KW had been hired just to provide incidental music for the video. Shoddy! K -- Genetically engineered/corrupted Nature: the world ends for a fast buck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 26 May 1999 09:41:22 +0100 merseycham: >> BTW: I'd like to auction my Technopop promotional button >> badge. This extremely rare promo item (for distribution to >> music industry insiders only) is one of only 50 test button >> pressings. The remaining 49 remain in possession of the >> artists, their close family and the Guggenheim Museum. >> >> Start bidding at half a million. Euro, of course. lenny g: > that's what, $0.50 cents american, i'll bid a whole $1! i > just hope Ralf does not bid against me, he's been looking for > the long lost 50th button badge for 16 years. hey, maybe we > can use this button as a barganing chip. > Ralf can't have it until they release a new album. who's > with me on this one!? actually 500000 euro is 531250 dollars. I bid 600000, Mersey ;) pedantically yours, Jono. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BosKen@aol.com Subject: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 08:39:30 EDT my name is Kenny Berube from Boston. i have a question. someone told me years ago that the group Kraftwerk had all died in a plane crash. is that true? or was it a mistake or some kind of hoax? the last album i bought was "Electric Cafe" which came out in 1986. or did the group just split up after that last album? i really want to know if they are still alive. i listen to their music almost on a daily basis. i find it very relaxing. hope someone can answer. thanks, bye, kenny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 26 May 1999 10:20:30 -0300 (ART) > > >>Start bidding at half a million. Euro, of course. > > >that's what, $0.50 cents american, i'll bid a whole $1! > > >ok, i'll beat that, how about 25p UK, that'll be more than a dollar surely > > > OK, let's make this an "international thing" I bid a Carter Quarter and a > Loon I can up it by 25 lira if you wish. You pay postage. > > (Carter Quarter - Susan B. Anthony US 1 Dollar coin) > (Loon - Canada 1 Dollar ) I give you two chickens and a cow Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Ay caramba! Date: 26 May 1999 11:11:56 +0200 "Ay caramba!" is a song which nicks a sequence and drums from "Musique Non Stop". The lyric uses a known (and ancient and decrepit) Spanish rumba from the 70's. The coarse fermale hip-hop trio Ari sing the track which will be included on their album "Gancho perfecto". The recording was at Marsella, and the LP is produced by Jam, Frank T, Meswy and others. The record it will be available in a week. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: Re: (kw) Let's pretend Date: 26 May 1999 10:24:32 -0300 (ART) > And hey.. the most important of being a real fan of > something is discuss irellevant stuff.. I mean just look at > all the Star Trek sites.. Romulan Ale? haha! Be most careful with your comments, because there are many KW fans that are also Star Trek fans. For instance the Konzert KW gave in Buenos Aires was full of them! :D Laura-Argentina # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Lopez Van dam Subject: RE: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 26 May 1999 10:33:04 -0300 (ART) > if you ask me; but I have a really hard time believing they've influenced > people like Ricky Martin, Los Del Rio and The BS (read: Backstreet) Boys. You are right, I don't think Ralf and Florian would ever sing "un pasito pa'lante Maria", they have awful German accent to do so. Laura # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 14:29:01 +0100 BosKen@aol.com wrote: >my name is Kenny Berube from Boston. i have a question. someone told me years >ago that the group Kraftwerk had all died in a plane crash. is that true? Yes, they all died. Everything I wrote in the FAQ about their recent activities was a lie, as are the contents of the discussions you've been following. A new album is due out from them, however. http://www.ghostweb.com/evp.html for clips. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nebulous@erols.com Subject: Re: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 09:32:53 BosKen@aol.com wrote: >someone told me years ago that the group Kraftwerk had all died >in a plane crash. is that true? It better not be true or else those really *were* robots I saw onstage at the Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC last June. :-) >the last album i bought was "Electric Cafe" which came out in 1986. >or did the group just split up after that last album? Sounds like you've been out of the loop for a while. Kraftwerk released an album called "The Mix" in 1991, which contains updated digital reworkings by KW of some of their past songs, including "The Robots", "Radioactivity", "Music Non Stop", "Trans Europe Express", "Autobahn", "Home Computer", etc. The release of "The Mix" was accompanied by live concerts in Europe during the very early 1990s. Then after a long pause, KW finally performed once again at the Tribal Gathering in Luton Hoo back in 1997, followed by a more extensive tour of Europe and the U.S. in 1998. And that brings you up to the present. Rumours have persisted about the potential of a new album to this day. Putting that uncertainty aside, Ralf & Florian are still quite alive. nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 09:39:29 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 26 May 1999, Kevin Busby wrote: > Yes, they all died. Everything I wrote in the FAQ about their recent > activities was a lie, as are the contents of the discussions you've been > following. A new album is due out from them, however. > http://www.ghostweb.com/evp.html for clips. I was disappointed to find out about this as well. I discovered this fact when a friend informed me that the figures I had assumed were Ralf and Florian at the Detroit KW concert last year were, in fact, the "Mensch-Maschine - Mark V," designed by HAL Laboratories of Urbana, Illinois (the same firm that developed the "Fidel Castro - Mark XII"). It turns out that Fritz Hilpert and Henning are their operators, and that it is their task to continue performing KW's old songs without any alteration whatsoever until the secret gets out. It now appears that they will soon be looking for new work. ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "I must invent my own system, or be Student Services, enslaved by another man's." The University of Michigan --William Blake LS&A Honors Program http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 09:46:33 EDT In a message dated 5/26/99 6:32:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, busbykg@novell2.bham.ac.uk writes: << Yes, they all died. Everything I wrote in the FAQ about their recent activities was a lie, as are the contents of the discussions you've been following. A new album is due out from them, however. http://www.ghostweb.com/evp.html for clips. >> That was an unnecessarily sarcastic reply. The guy is obviously new on here....how would he know of our discussions and your faq??? You owe him an apology. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 26 May 1999 16:00:18 +0200 >The remaining 49 remain in >possession of the artists, their close family and the Guggenheim Museum. Guggenheim Museum, Bilbao, Spain? Is it true? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Re: (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 26 May 1999 09:44:46 +0100 >> They anonimity is only bested by Elvis, and he's dead. > > bollocks, he's alive and well, and living on the moon, i refer > you to the UK daily sport for more evidence. in a world war two bomber no less. also i hear he has a promo copy of 'technopop'. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 08:45:09 -0700 >my name is Kenny Berube from Boston. i have a question. someone told me years >ago that the group Kraftwerk had all died in a plane crash. is that true? or >was it a mistake or some kind of hoax? Kenny (southpark jokes aside) welcome to the list... Good question... as far as I can tell, the only ones that seem to be alive and kicking, are: Karl Bartos and Wolfgang Flur... as for Ralf and Florian, nobody really knows... they're probably in heaven wondering how can Karl be so much in love with Johnny Marr and Bernard Sumner; and Florian with the late Serge Gainsbourg and the Mouse on Mars guys... its a brave world out here Kenny... be prepared for anything... BTW that "someone" who break the news to you, has been spotted in the Howard Stern show doing a personification of Orson Wells (he was selling Star Trek memorabilia on the radio... go figure!) KW4ever! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Dorian Gray (was: Re: The man in the middle) Date: 26 May 1999 20:56:20 +0000 > >>Can anybody tell me who Dorian Gray was/is > > > >An Oscar Wilde character; he has a picture of himself that ages > >instead of himself.... > > The Theme of this story can also be found in the song >Spiegelsaal [The > Hall Of Mirrors]< by kraftwerk. I don't see significant similarities between the themes of the Kraftwerk song and the Wilde novel. The song is about the sometimes distorted reception of an artist's character, while the novel deals with the consequences of radical aestheticism and hedonism. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: NEU! (was: RE: (kw) Klaus Dinger / Captain Trip / Indigo) Date: 26 May 1999 20:56:20 +0000 > >> Anyone of you knows from where Neu! really took their artistic name? > > > >Presumably from the German word "Neu"? > > Yes, but they took the name from an announcement, a poster, or what? "Neu" is a pretty common word, so they probably didn't need the inspiration from announcements or posters to get the idea. > Neu is the German word for new, isn't it? Yes. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: New album & single nonsense (was: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK... SINGLE?) Date: 26 May 1999 20:56:20 +0000 > Strange enough, but noone here noticed that KW single was listed either. > Does it implies that there were some rumors about it? Anyone knows? Klaus? Yes, this single (as well as the album) was originally announced by EMI Toshiba, Japan, for (I think) a spring 1997 release, but of course it was cancelled. If the data can still be found in some record shop catalogues, it simply means that the record dealers haven't cleaned up their databases, that's all. These announcements didn't mean a lot anyway, since they came from Japan, and Japanese release lists aren't very reliable in general. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: FAQ (was: Re: (kw) hi all!) Date: 26 May 1999 20:56:20 +0000 > The guy is obviously new on here....how would he know of our discussions and > your faq??? By reading the following line, which is included in every single message that appears on this mailing list? # Other questions? Read the FAQ: # http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 26 May 1999 17:12:24 EDT In a message dated 25/05/99 03:19:16 GMT Daylight Time, o.v.al@usa.net writes: << biologically incorrect >> uh ? how can something be "biologically incorrect" ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album Date: 26 May 1999 17:14:49 EDT In a message dated 25/05/99 10:17:39 GMT Daylight Time, jseifert@technologist.com writes: << >They anonimity is only bested by Elvis, and he's dead. bollocks, he's alive and well, and living on the moon, i refer you to the UK daily sport for more evidence. >> funnily enough, I just met Elvis down the Dog & Duck (quaffing a pint of Banks's Smooth from a diamond encrusted goblet)... and guess what button he was wearing on his lapel ??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) KW Family Date: 26 May 1999 17:19:43 EDT In a message dated 25/05/99 19:20:12 GMT Daylight Time, ncentola@hotmail.com writes: << I have an idea for the KW kids: why not make a band called NEW KRAFTS ON THE BLOCK or even KRAFTSTREET BOYS??? >> forget that... If the boys are still unmarried they must be the KRAFT SINGLES !!!!!! How cheesy ! (geddit ? ed.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 17:23:13 EDT In a message dated 26/05/99 13:45:48 GMT Daylight Time, BosKen@AOL.COM writes: << my name is Kenny Berube from Boston. i have a question. someone told me years ago that the group Kraftwerk had all died in a plane crash. is that true? or was it a mistake or some kind of hoax? the last album i bought was "Electric Cafe" which came out in 1986. or did the group just split up after that last album? i really want to know if they are still alive. i listen to their music almost on a daily basis. i find it very relaxing. hope someone can answer. thanks, bye, kenny >> yes, kenny they're all dead. It's just that the rest of the morons on the list can't accept it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) KW Family Date: 26 May 1999 17:29:40 -0400 Haaa, haaa, Are you swiss? MERSEYCHAM@aol.com wrote: > How cheesy ! > > (geddit ? ed.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 26 May 1999 17:26:06 EDT In a message dated 26/05/99 15:04:19 GMT Daylight Time, automat@nexo.es writes: << Guggenheim Museum, Bilbao, Spain? Is it true? DER AUTOMAT >> would I lie to you, Automat...? DER KRAUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: FW: (kw) hi all! Date: 26 May 1999 16:34:07 -0500 This is a bit late, but what the heck. >my name is Kenny Berube from Boston. I have a question. someone told me years >ago that the group Kraftwerk had all died in a plane crash. is that true? or Kenny, Yes, they did die in a plane crash. They have since been replaced by robots, as evidenced on the cover of their first post-partum release The Mix. Many re-releases have followed, with no new songs which further supports the crash theory. Also, all the fans who recently attended concerts by Kraftwerk, at least that's what the performers called themselves, spoke of robots with synthetic heads cast in the likeness of the allegedly deceased performing and dancing to the songs. This, my friend, is the greatest achievement in robotics since the Six-Million-Dollar-Man. All in good humor, and thanks for making me laugh Sincerely, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) KW Family Date: 26 May 1999 14:38:40 -0700 > How cheesy ! > (geddit ? ed.) I wonder if there's such a thing as a: KRAFT "fagg free" Singles... KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) homophobia Date: 26 May 1999 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT) --- Enrique Correa wrote: > I wonder if there's such a thing as a: KRAFT "fagg > free" Singles... I guess it's true what they say about the most vocal homophobes. This entire sequence of postings about a new album (there isn't one and won't be anytime soon) and KW being dead (they're not, none of them) and homophobia (grow up, already) is beyond asinine and a waste of time at this point. Schluss damit! Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) homophobia Date: 26 May 1999 16:16:35 -0700 >I guess it's true what they say about the most vocal >homophobes. This entire sequence of postings about a >new album (there isn't one and won't be anytime soon) >and KW being dead (they're not, none of them) and >homophobia (grow up, already) is beyond asinine and a >waste of time at this point. Schluss damit! A waste of time? Jeez... wait until you read about this: Play "Sex Object" backwards and you'll hear Ralf Lennon and Florian McCartney in the background singing: "hey, this is what we're talking about men, computer love forever, yeah, yeah, and by the way, we're not dead, yet!!" and if you watched the last episode of the teletubbies, you'll see the purple character with a little neon movie poster promoting the new KW movie (yeap, the NEW MOVIE) "The Full Krafty-Monty part II" Anyway, I agree with you, this is nonsense... and so what? if you want, we can go back to the Afrika Bambaataa topic and the phone number deal of the "Telephone Call"... now that's juicy stuff!! What else can we do? Any ideas? I'll say: lets sit down and wait until the new record comes around.. somebody get a fire started... I'll take care of the marshmallows... and while we're at it, can anybody bring a Deutsche-English dictionary? KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) homophobia Date: 26 May 1999 19:21:22 EDT I did not join this list to read mindless hate mail. Lets not allow this to happen again. No W h ere # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) homophobia Date: 26 May 1999 19:33:23 -0400 Enrique Correa wrote: >>can anybody bring a Deutsche-English dictionary? KW4EVER!<< ok here :-) http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) A new KW life Date: 26 May 1999 21:52:34 -0300 Ohhhh Kenny, this is the reason why when I talked with Florian before Rio de Janeiro concert, when I was just drinking a beer and he, Fritz und Henning came to drink some cofee, about how importante they are to the music in general and how important were their concerts here, he, simply didn't answer nothing... HE IS DEAD!!! And if he answer me, I would know he is not Florian... Florian is dead and replaced by a guy that could not play nothing... oh, I see, this is why Florian simply don't do NOTHING on stage now, just read a magazine during the songs... it's not Florian... HE IS DEAD!!!! Just kiding Kenny... welcome to the list!! Enjoy these crazy guy who are PhD in talking every day about a band that do NOTHING!!! Few concerts and no releases... if you want some help, please fell free to contact me, ok? Somebody asked about the blue hair girl sit next Florian at my photos... well, that beautiful girl was just sit at Internet computers available on lounge of Free Jazz Festival. A friend made an interview with him... it's a long story, but it starts when I was drinking a beer, blah blah blah... So she IS NOT his daughter. Well, I saw a teen girl with Florian on backstage before Rio de Janeiro concert... he was talking and laughing with her... maybe she could be his daughter... I could not ask him, because somebody from the production asked me: what are you doing here? before I could speak... well, it's another long story... this one started when I need to urinate on backstage after the soundcheck and blah blah blah... BTW, Elvis is not dead!!! He lives in Rio... last year he was wearing an Elvis fantasy on carnival... peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Re: Dorian Gray (was: Re: The man in the middle) Date: 27 May 1999 03:24:50 +0200 fh5y013@public.uni-hamburg.de writes: > >I don't see significant similarities between the themes of the >Kraftwerk song and the Wilde novel. The song is about >the sometimes distorted reception of an artist's character, while the >novel deals with the consequences of radical aestheticism and >hedonism. > > Klaus Zaepke > You're right! ---josef __|I'-'I|__Manchmal_sah er_sein_wirkliches_Gesicht__|I_und__manchmal _einen ___Fremden_I|I__den_kannte_er__nicht__|I,~, |I___ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) Let's pretend & NEW KRAFTWERK ALBUM Date: 27 May 1999 01:10:43 +0000 Finarvas wrote: > >> And hey.. the most important of being a real fan of >> something is discuss irellevant stuff.. I mean just look at >> all the Star Trek sites.. Romulan Ale? haha! > >Be most careful with your comments, because there are many KW fans that >are also Star Trek fans. For instance the Konzert KW gave in Buenos Aires >was full of them! :D >Laura-Argentina hey, i'm with Finavras on this one, except all that Star Trek stuff is not irrelevant, otherwise existance is irrelevant. thus, this KW stuff is not irrelevant either, it might be incredibly retarded, but not irrelevant. on the matter of the button: you bastards can have it. i can't outbid you since all i have left are these damn russian rubles which are not worth shit. oh yeah, there is enough gay bashing done without our contribution, so since everything Klaus posts is scrutinized and researched beforehand lets all blame the japanese for having outdated and/or false information posted on the web, thus resulting in a higher number of retarded posts on the KW list and which i am sure all of us had to waste more time on to read everybody's take on KW being dead. maybe if thery really were dead we would have something to talk about, like the color of their matching black caskets. besides, don't Ralf and Florry have a fear of flying, so they can't die in a plane crash, unless a plane crash-landed on top of them. oh and did i mention that a few days ago i heard Dentaku on the radio in my car. why that's fucking amazing i tell you. and get this everybody, it was on a college station, on a thursday night, and during an electronic music programme; what are the odds!!!? oh, and on the new album, i'd like to see Kw go to their roots: they should ditch all this new MIDI digital technology and dig up the old Jenny Ondioline, ondes martenot, maybe a theremin, recreate the mezmorizing sounds of the Cawhill Telharmonium. and instead of Quasimidi drum machine, they should blow the dust off the classic Maestro Rhythm King. they can call it Kraftwerk: Almost unplugged. i'd love to hear them rock out Vom Himmel Hoch live in my lifetime. and i don't think the 'bot Model V is capable of performing such complex and emotional music. Music non stop and prosper lenny g B.S. really, are there KW and ST fans out there. i totaly love both of them. it's a weakness, i know, but that is who I am. well, i guess i also like Monty Python alot. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) Dont worry Date: 27 May 1999 09:32:39 +0100 >Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:12:24 EDT >From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com >Subject: Re: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album >In a message dated 25/05/99 03:19:16 GMT Daylight Time, o.v.al@usa.net writes: << biologically incorrect >> >uh ? how can something be "biologically incorrect" ? Don't worry about it the guy is a complete arsehole for raising homophobic bullshit on a KW list. I suppose it's because there really is nothing to talk about the moment. I have a soft spot for the guy - Hackney Marshes!!! But seriously there are places for the guy like alt.homophobe.I should have been shot at birth Should be in a good mood after English football reigned supreme last night but there are some people Dai "Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Di Sante" Subject: (kw) Electronic Bands Date: 27 May 1999 11:33:27 +0200 Could anyone of you suggest me (privately) the names of very interesting electronics bands (as Elecktroids, Kraftwelt, and so on...)? Thank you. Didi Milan - PDN di.di@tiscalinet.it # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) hi all! Date: 27 May 1999 13:08:02 +0100 Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: >That was an unnecessarily sarcastic reply. Just a joking slap of the wrist, unnecessary but hardly unwarranted. >The guy is obviously new on here....how would he know of our discussions and >your faq??? Maybe by reading the introductory emails he got when he subscribed, or by reading just one of the posts to the list. It's also netiquette to read a few postings of an email list before wading in with questions. >You owe him an apology. I welcome whoever-it-was (see, nothing personal, I've forgotten his name already) to the list, but I certainly owe no apology. Neither do I think he should bother apologising to the list for having been lazy in the first place ;-) KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: RE: (kw) Dont worry Date: 27 May 1999 07:57:45 -0500 >>Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:12:24 EDT >>From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com >>Subject: Re: (kw) (hoping 4 a) New Album >>In a message dated 25/05/99 03:19:16 GMT Daylight Time, o.v.al@usa.net writes: ><< biologically incorrect >> >>uh ? how can something be "biologically incorrect" ? >Don't worry about it the guy is a complete arsehole for raising homophobic >bullshit OK. Why is it that every time someone questions the correctness of the homosexual lifestyle they automatically become homophobic? Are you HETEROPHOBIC? Or maybe JESUSPHOBIC? If you are a man, and you like to have sex with men, fine. The rest of the world does not have to like it. Why do gay men have to be so insecure? This list is really becoming to irk me. Why are we discussing this here? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) Session Men? Date: 27 May 1999 09:30:36 -0400 Okay, here's one: I was recently reading an interview with Mark Mothersbaugh - of D E V O. An interesting piece, actually on their early involvement with Brian Eno, etc. Which made me wonder. Eno tends to use some pretty great musicians on his works - How the heck did Kraftwerk make it through their highpoint without being on ANYBODY'S albums (intentionally, that is). Did any of them actually work on any other projects out side of the band? I'm guessing no, but... I am not referring to "current" projects like YAMO, or Mouse on Mars, etc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Dont worry Date: 27 May 1999 10:11:06 -0400 >This list is really becoming to irk me. Why are we discussing this here? Quite agreed, quite agreed, too silly, too silly. OK...the buck (or quid or whatever you call it in your country) stops right here. I'm gay - anyone got a problem with that? Or maybe I'm straight. I 've got it - I'm bi! Does it REALLY matter? None of you will ever know for certain. Does it matter about any of the members of KW or any of the other list members? Not one little bit that I can see. So relax... Reach out of the darkness and you may find a friend. (hey, that would be a good line for a song...) Huggy Bear (CyberHugs to all) np: Brook Benton - Rainy Night In Georgia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) homophobia again Date: 27 May 1999 07:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Chris Stann wrote: > OK. Why is it that every time someone questions the > correctness of the > homosexual lifestyle they automatically become > homophobic? Are you > HETEROPHOBIC? Or maybe JESUSPHOBIC? If you are a > man, and you like to have > sex with men, fine. The rest of the world does not > have to like it. So we should just sit back and allow listmembers to throw around derogatory names referring to gays? It's homophobia because there's not a better word for it like racism, misogyny or any other word that describes hatred toward a specific group. When someone recently used a derogatory racial term, they were told that it was a derogatory term and that was that. No one jumped in to sugest that racism should go unaddressed. No, it's not a phobia, as in fear of gays, it's hostility toward gays, whether or not you recognize it as such. Jesus was not even mentioned, but if you insist, He had a mention of everyone being equal and loving your fellow human beings, have a look. > Why do gay men have to be so insecure? We are insecure because we stand up for our rights not to be called names? That's not insecurity. > This list is really becoming to irk me. You and me both. I'm getting tired of seeing that I have 15-20 KW messages every time I log an and it's just the same crap over and over, now laced with hatred. > Why are we discussing this here? Because I disagree with you and think that it IS appropriate to address hatred on this list. You replied, I'm replying to you. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BosKen@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #298 Date: 26 May 1999 23:59:33 EDT i am new to this list and i deleted a whole mess of emails by mistake before i realized they were from Kraftwerk people. the only one i read was from Mersey Cham. so if anyone sent me an email and would like to resend it i would very much appreciate it. i get so much freakin junk mail that i delete so quick, and i wasn't familiar with the reKW thing. i said "what the heck is KW or reKW" and then duuuuuuuuu it dawned on me as i found the last letter. feel free to all go duuuuuuuuuuuu, but please forgive me. i'm new. and i am more confused than ever now . are they alive or dead? does anyone know? i didn't mean the question as a joke. i just don't know anything. but i do have the 1991 cd "the mix" but i thought that they were just remixes of the old stuff? please help me out. i'm going crazy now!!!!!!!!! best to all, and sorry if this is boring to some. thanks, bye, kenny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Die Blöde Buhle" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 27 May 1999 09:12:00 GMT kraftwerk kids - how about: The Krafty Family (although, as with the Kelly Family, they'd have to fuck eachother) Oh, Kraftwerk are dead. They were then rebiult into 'robo-artists'. Who said Robocop was fiction? Now they go about abiding the law and pumping lead into wrong-doers who don't listen to their music. Oh, and 'man-machines' don't need blowjobs. All they need is a little oil to easen their joints. Dicks don't have the required oil to do that... Matt www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Die Blöde Buhle" Subject: (kw) karl bartos visited my site!!! Date: 27 May 1999 08:52:54 GMT Hi fellow KWers! 1) can someone give me a list of all the genres that were created or inspired by Kraftwerk? Like, even in new techno/hardcore/gabber I can sometimes feel the Kraft... 2)New album? We hope... 3)Kraftwerk - straight, gay or indecisive? (well, their studio is in the red-light zone and they probably have loadsa money...) 4)Don't talk about Elvis on this KW list. He's just a fat f***. Oh, and he's not dead, on the moon or at Burger King. He always liked KFC...anyway, I AM ELVIS!!! (well, my belly's getting as big anyway) 5)My MATTWERK website has been visited by KARL BARTOS!!! Read the full story on my site. www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922 (add /kwlangu.htm for KW) My site is now holy. The true Kraftwerk Mecca. It has been blessed by one of the gods. Ha ha... Oh, Karl: I also have something extra dedicated to you now. Read it and love it!!! I wish you all love, sex and chocolate. Matt (ps. Bad luck Bayern Muenchen, but it was destiny that Man Utd won!) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Schubertsson" Subject: (kw) info at cdeurope Date: 27 May 1999 14:37:30 +0200 At CD Europe (www.cdeurope.com) you can find the following information: Number: B267282 Title: ARBEITEN:WORKS:OEUVRES Artist:Kraftwerk = CD Album $68,95 Label: capital city Realeasedate: 12/31/99 Country of import: UK Genre: symphonic Tracklistsings: Promo CD Ft. Trax Fr. 1968-1986 For what this info is worth...... Regards, Peder Schubertsson peder@oscarsson.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Session Men? Date: 27 May 1999 10:15:20 -0400 -----Original Message----- >I am not referring to "current" projects like YAMO, or Mouse on Mars, etc. Mouse On Mars? Is this some recent KW related piece? Please explain. Hugyy Bear (CyberHugs to all) np: Ringo Starr - It Don't Come Easy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) Session Men? Date: 27 May 1999 17:56:14 +0300 > >I am not referring to "current" projects like YAMO, or Mouse on Mars, etc. > > > Mouse On Mars? Is this some recent KW related piece? Please explain. > Mouse on Mars is a German experimental band. Wolfgang Flur participated in creation of their second album. Some people think that they sound very Kraftwerkish. -- Eugene Zaikonnikov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) homophobia again Date: 27 May 1999 09:26:03 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 27 May 1999, Jeff Young wrote: > > OK. Why is it that every time someone questions the > > correctness of the > > homosexual lifestyle they automatically become > > homophobic? Are you > > So we should just sit back and allow listmembers to > throw around derogatory names referring to gays? It's No, we should tell people to take their totally off-topic ranting elsewhere. If people would learn not to respond to off-topic stuff, we wouldn't get huge pile-ons like this. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Bartos remix Deine Lakaien! Date: 27 May 1999 17:52:24 +0000 > quoting from the Chrom Record newsletter: > - -------------------- > * Karl Bartos (KRAFTWERK) remixes DEINE LAKAIEN! > On the forth-coming Zillo-Sampler "Zillo Club Hits 4" will be > included a "Return"-Remix by Karl Bartos (Kraftwerk). It's out now. Catalogue number: SPV 085-26262 Track listing: 01. Deine Lakaien: Return (Karl Bartos Remix) 4:30" 02. Dreadful Shadows: Desolated Home 5:12" 03. Covenant: Go Film (Hard Version 2) 4:34" 04. VNV Nation: Joy 5:35" 05. Tumor: Bewusstseinserweiterung (Tumor Devastatingwitheroknor) 5:53" 06. Suicide Commando: Desire 4:44" 07. Crematory: Fly 5:51" 08. Clan of Xymox: This World 6:36" 09. Wumpscut: Totmacher (Suicide Commando Remix) 6:02" 10. Collapsed System: Blute jetzt (Original Demo Mix) 3:59" 11. Front 242: Happiness (Live Version) 7:14" 12. Funker Vogt: Tragic Hero (Blind Vision Remix) 4:13" 13. S.P.O.C.K.: Dr. McCoy (Classic Version) 3:33" 14. Controled Fusion: You 5:06" 15. Mesh: I Fall Over 4:58" Release date was May 25th. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Tomorrow Never Knows Date: 27 May 1999 10:42:56 -0700 "...This has always been true. Kraftwerk lives for Kling Klang alone (they've turned down offers to collaborate with Michael Jackson, Elton John and Bowie) ... only in terms of album releases, would the group seem less than prolific. But as Schneider has said, "There is too much sound pollution" "... But one of Kraftwerk's favorite machines is not at all electronic. The group's fondness for the bicycle inspired them to produce "Tour De France." ... the concert version of the song offered a reminder that it is arguably one of the most important 12-inch dance singles of our time. It defines Kraftwerk's international aesthetic with heavy breathing, harps, oriental-like melodies, and French lyrics..." "... But history also repeats. Lennon was quoted as saying that The Beatles were more important than Jesus, and the questionable statement caused a backlash. For more than 30 years, the Fab Four has been immortalized with an unmatched reverence, and so today, it is almost as controversial to say that Kraftwerk is more important than The Beatles. Controversial, yes, but for the countless DJs, producers and listeners whose tastes were shaped by electronic music, this assertion is unquestionable..." The rest of the comments are in here: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1998/070298/music1.html KW4ever! Enrique (a KRAFTWERKPHOBIC) ps1: you've just deleted all of your KW e-mail? Don't worry, Kenny, u didn't miss a thing, and by the way, they're not dead, and they haven't released anything since The Mix (I sure hope their gear is Y2K compliant!) ps2: If "TDF" is the most important 12" single of our time, "Blue Monday" should be a close second. ps3: if random quotes is what u like ("Kraftwerk's music did a lot of bad things for us" TD's Edgar Froese), go here: http://www.megs.com/neworld/quotes.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) homophobia again Date: 27 May 1999 11:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Soleil Lapierre wrote: > No, we should tell people to take their totally > off-topic ranting > elsewhere. If people would learn not to respond to > off-topic stuff, we > wouldn't get huge pile-ons like this. True, but spoken by someone who always seems to think EVERYTHING is on topic and worth discussing, if memory serves correctly. I think addressing offensive remarks is more worthwhile than the 20 postings about Elvis, for crying out loud. How exactly should we tell these people by the way to take their off-topic rantings elsewhere? On or off-list? Jeff _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) homophobia Date: 27 May 1999 12:05:41 -0400 -----Original Message----- >> I wonder if there's such a thing as a: KRAFT "fagg >> free" Singles... >I guess it's true what they say about the most vocal >homophobes. This entire sequence of postings about a It was obviously a play on words that apparently many people missed. I've been guilty of that myself. Not unlike the recent story of the guy...I don't remember what his position was, but when informed that the departments budget had been cut he said "We'll have to be more niggardly with the money." Many people were horrified, thinking that he had used "The 'N' Word" as some kind of a racial slur, when in reality if they bothered to check they would know the word has nothing to do with racism. That's one of the things I like about this list, it is more catholic than I would have thought. (catholic and Catholic do NOT mean the same thing!) Now, if you'll excuse me, my stomach is starting to feel a little queer and I need to get out of here and go mastocate. Maybe I'll pick up a pack of fags on the way. I feel gay anyway because of the upcoming holiday weekend. It can't come too soon. Everyone, cheer up and try to act like civilized people. I know you can do it if you try. Huggy Bear (I Love Everybody...call me what you want) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Gross Subject: (kw) We Are The Robots after all Date: 27 May 1999 11:58:03 -0400 > Why are we discussing this here? Because I disagree with you and think that it IS appropriate to address hatred on this list. You replied, I'm replying to you. --- But not in the same spirit. Disagreement and hatred aren't the same thing. = Oh, I get it-- this is a special case! I'd better unsubscribe before = someone = misconstrues my criticism as hatred and 'replies' accordingly... :-) (exits, puking) ____________ Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility/ Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) homophobia again Date: 27 May 1999 11:49:13 -0400 -----Original Message----- >So we should just sit back and allow listmembers to >throw around derogatory names referring to gays? It's >homophobia because there's not a better word for it >like racism, misogyny or any other word that describes >hatred toward a specific group. When someone recently Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the suffix "phobia" mean fear, not hate? I have acrophobia. That doesn't mean I hate heights, I'm afraid of them. Although I do agree, there doesn't seem to be a better word that I can think of. >as such. Jesus was not even mentioned, but if you >insist, He had a mention of everyone being equal and >loving your fellow human beings, have a look. And if you think about it, regardless of your religion (or lack of religion), doesn't love and equality help the world to run better in general? So much good that could be done in this world if the time, money and effort spent hurting and killing others was put into good things. >We are insecure because we stand up for our rights not >to be called names? That's not insecurity. I was told you must stand for something or you will fall for anything. Sometimes I think people who get wild (on either side) are insecure, and need to prove it to themselves. I know what I am...but I don't make an issue of it...I want it to be a non-issue, to show that it doesn't REALLY matter what I do or whom I do it with. >You and me both. I'm getting tired of seeing that I >have 15-20 KW messages every time I log an and it's >just the same crap over and over, now laced with >hatred. Well, if KW would get off their duffs and either break up completely (did I really say that? - horrors!) or start putting out some new music. Does anyone REALLY know if KW is straight or not? I say it does not matter. Like my old boss used to say, "S--- or get off the pot." >Because I disagree with you and think that it IS >appropriate to address hatred on this list. You >replied, I'm replying to you. Actually, there is little you can do to fight hatred - that comes from within, and you can't change anybody. What you CAN do is to address ignorance, ignorance is the seed of hatred. Huggy Bear (bisexual? - I Love Everybody) np: Frank Zappa - Bobby Brown # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Stann" Subject: (kw) recordaphobia Date: 27 May 1999 14:00:05 -0500 On the lighter side of things, before everyone quits this list... Do you think Kraftwerk has recordaphobia? Or maybe Fanophobia? I have Elvisaphobia - I keep getting these recurring nightmares about some large guy in a fancy suit and matching bellbottoms singing "you ain't nothin' but a Kraft-dog.." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) homophobia again Date: 27 May 1999 13:19:33 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 27 May 1999, Jeff Young wrote: > Soleil Lapierre wrote: > > No, we should tell people to take their totally > > off-topic ranting > > elsewhere. If people would learn not to respond to > > off-topic stuff, we > > wouldn't get huge pile-ons like this. > > True, but spoken by someone who always seems to think > EVERYTHING is on topic and worth discussing, if memory > serves correctly. It doesn't. I just think more things are KW-related than some people do. > I think addressing offensive > remarks is more worthwhile than the 20 postings about > Elvis, for crying out loud. Saying "but other people's posts are even lamer" isn't a very good excuse for making off-topic posts. If you want to address offensive remarks, hang out in alt.flame or alt.religion or alt.aol-sucks. The Internet is full of offensive stuff if you're into that. > How exactly should we tell these people by the way to > take their off-topic rantings elsewhere? On or > off-list? If you actually want to discuss the off-topic stuff with the guy, take it off-list. If need be, CC everyone else involved, except the list itself. Normally when things get really out of hand, Lazlo (the list maintainer) issues a message to the list saying basically, "stop it or get booted." But he's a busy guy and this discussion hasn't gotten really bad yet. It's better if we can police ourselves to a certain extent. To me that means ignoring off-topic stuff (even if offensive). And that's the last I'm going to say about this. Reply to me off-list if you want to. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * The remarkable thing about the human mind is its range of limitations. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) recordaphobia Date: 27 May 1999 16:31:19 -0400 ] Do you think Kraftwerk has recordaphobia? Or maybe Fanophobia? I have i think that they are just very aware of that they are living legends, and that if they stay as secret as they are, myths will be created. no myths, no legends. karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (kw) recordaphobia Date: 27 May 1999 21:25:24 +0100 > i think that they are just very aware of that > they are living legends, and that if they stay > as secret as they are, myths will be created. > > no myths, no legends. silence = death. of course, imagine if Kraftwerk had never released anything. if they'd been as prolific in the early part of their career as they have been since Nov 91 nobody would have ever heard of them. I remember back in June 92 I asked Ralf about a new album and he said they'd just started mixing it. I'd respect him now if he'd just said he was extraordinarily lazy. Also, with age, most artists tend to slow down as they can't handle the pace of constant touring, and financial security breeds inertia. Or maybe Kraftwerk have run out of ideas? -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) recordaphobia Date: 27 May 1999 18:02:58 -0400 sorry for this long mail, but i didn't have any time to make it shorter. ] silence = death. of course, imagine if Kraftwerk had never released ] anything. if they'd been as prolific in the early part of their career ] as they have been since Nov 91 nobody would have ever heard of them. i don't know about that. kraftwerk was pretty big before the mix album. even though if the general public knew about them, all the people that listend to electronic music back then knew how they were, aswell as anyone how made music. im was not old when the mix came - i was 16, but i sure knew who they were back them. but, i have to admit that i did't fall in love with them until 94 or so, when i started to make musik myself, and relized how much of a milestone they have been. ] I remember back in June 92 I asked Ralf about a new album and he said ] they'd just started mixing it. I'd respect him now if he'd just said he ] was extraordinarily lazy. Also, with age, most artists tend to slow down ] as they can't handle the pace of constant touring, and financial ] security breeds inertia. Or maybe Kraftwerk have run out of ideas? i doubt that kraftwerk should be out of ideas. if you compare the sound of kraftwerk today with the sound they had '91, it have changed alot. the music is today more a mix of trance and electro than just plain-old-electro. i don't know if that say anything about them, or if it's just kraftwerk that have been influensed by others. one thing is for sure, they have left the minimalistic themselfes, and left that part to others such as plasticman and his cronies, but kraftwerk sure haven't made their old music any worse. they constantly remake their songs. now apply this theory on their 'new' songs played at the latest tour. i'm sure that the things thay played will be released within.. say 3 years, and they will sound really really really really good by then. ofcourse, this is just my very personal theroy. karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: (kw) Homophobia flamewar Date: 27 May 1999 13:09:00 -0600 Please take any further comments on this topic to private email. Thanks. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) On or Off Topic? Date: 28 May 1999 10:53:41 +0100 what all this shite about homophobic/heterophobic posts? Get this shite off list, and discuss it in shitheads@listbot.com, and for the record, everybody is entitled to their opinion on any given subject, but don't discuss it here. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) KW Family Date: 28 May 1999 11:47:01 +0200 Nicolau Centola wrote: >As far as I know, Florian is married and has a daughter. BTW, his daughter >came with him to Brazil last year to see the concerts. I saw Florian in Zaragoza (1991) and Barcelona (1998) accompanied of a (darkhaired) girlfriend younger than him. And she isn't his daughter judging by their passionate kisses ;-) DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Spymania Modi Klub Date: 28 May 1999 15:18:39 +0200 SPYMANIA'S TEN GREAT ALBUMS In No Particular Order Title Artist 1. We're only in it for the Money Frank Zappa and the Mothers 2. Computer World Kraftwerk (...) Modi Jedson - Of Finnish origin (Helvetica to be provincial), young Modi came to Essex in the mid 50's. "Basically, I jest vanna sound like The Trouts, Can and Kraftwerk stuck in jam", says Modi, whose English is still patchy at best. Spanish band Klub formed by Luis Auseron, Enrique Sierra (ex-Radio Futura), and Pilar Roman (journalist), state that their sources of inspiration are Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream and Brian Eno, of the past; and The Prodigy and Chemical Brothers, of the present. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colatina Radio Som Ltda <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) VIDEOS Date: 28 May 1999 10:55:54 -0300 Hi, werkers. I have Videos (Kraftwerk`s bootlegs) for trade. The concerts was recorded during the MIX TOUR (91/92) on Italy, England, Belgique .Differente places, but, the same tracks (Numbers, CW, Tour de France, Autobahn and others) I accept swap by CDs (Autobahn, TEE, Radio-activity, Electric cafe...) (One video X one CD). If interested, please, write me privately. Thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Shitfobia Date: 28 May 1999 08:31:38 PDT Ok guys, now it's time to stop this shit!!! Look, I'm here to talk and listen about KRAFTWERK and related bands, not about homossexualism, Elvis and so on... If I would like to talk about these topics, I would searched for a proper list in the net. This shit battle about sexual preferences was the worst thing I ever saw in my life!!! I don't want to receive dozens messages per week with this kind of discussion. Look, I have nothing against heterosexual, homosexual, bissexual or even pansexual people. I have many friends and related hetero, homo and bissexual. And I really don't give a shit to ths kind of discussion. I love all of them. My Internet time is precious, and I don't wanna spend it with this kind of boring discussion. A guy (sorry, I cannot remember your name) told that this list is the best place to discuss this, because he disagree with another guy, blah blah, blah... Sorry guys, but THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO DISCUSS THIS!!!!!! If you disagree with someone about any kind of topic, PLEASE SEND A PRIVATE MAIL TO HIM!!! All the list HAS NOT to hear about you stupid private battle. So, you own me (and to the whole list) an apologize!!! And I will wait for it!!! So guys, shut up and stop!!!! This is the problem with lists... nobody control the spam/shit messages... Klaus and Kevin, where are you to remind people the topics of this list?? I'm seriously thinking to unsubscribe this list... I'm here from 2 years or so, but this is enough for me... I can not continue with this shit!! I made very friends here, some maybe I never saw, and some I saw this week, after months of mail conversation... it was great and I will never forget it... they could tell me when all this shit was cleaned up from here, and I will return, OK? Sorry my language, and no personal offenses for anybody, ok? peace all nicolau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Olf Ranthiz Subject: (kw) some stuff 4 sale Date: 28 May 1999 17:28:06 +0200 I've got the following CD's for sale: Kraftwerk: ZKM 2CD (karlsruhe 18.10.1997) Kraftwerk: Der Maschinenmensch (remix cd) -der Maschinenmensch -hypermix'99 -robotnicomix'99 -the robots return mix 1999 -the remix project '98 Kraftwerk: Lichtgestalten 2CD (Linz 16.10.1997) Kraftwerk: Lebendige Menschen (Tribal Gathering'97+ludwigsburg 1991) asking $20/cd $40/2cd e-mail me privatly if interested -- take care tf ____________________________________________________________ "Drinking and smoking are bad for the health" -Charles Bukowski "Drinking and smoking are good for the health as for meat, it preserve the body" -Serge Gainsbourg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) I'm sorry Date: 28 May 1999 09:51:22 -0700 >So, you own me (and to the whole list) an apologize!!! And I will wait for >it!!! So guys, shut up and stop!!!! Well, I feel like I started all of this mess by saying:"... I guess they can do whatever they want with their free time... even take their boyfriends (oops did I said that? no that is anything wrong with that!!! of course not!!!)... " ever since then, I received (and answered) tons of e-mails (trhu the list and privates) about sexual preferences, Elvis and if I wear boxers or CK's (at least, none referring to Afrika Bambaataa!) I just want to say that I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to offend and/or upset any of the members of this list by writing those words, although I still think they're (or at least some of them) of that orientation, but it doesn't really matter anymore, and that's only my impression, not a fact. I love everything about KW as much a many of you do, and I love to find out stuff about them, even if it has to do with their bionic dog's name. I'm a freaking fan, what can I say. My intention (and I hope yours too) is to stay here and keep on praying for a new KW's album. Again, I'm sorry. KW4EVER! Enrique ;-) ps: please answer back to me in a private matter. thanks, danke, gracias, merci, obrigado, grazie. "cheer up and see, what really matters, we can do it all together" EM's "Sunshine" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Dont worry Date: 28 May 1999 14:12:43 EDT In a message dated 27/05/99 14:02:32 GMT Daylight Time, ChrisS@INFORMS.com writes: << Why are we discussing this here? >> because you are perpetuating the discussion, perhaps ? ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) karl bartos visited my site!!! Date: 28 May 1999 14:16:40 EDT In a message dated 27/05/99 15:35:26 GMT Daylight Time, gb_not_eu@hotmail.com writes: << Matt (ps. Bad luck Bayern Muenchen, but it was destiny that Man Utd won!) >> how little you know. It was the Kraft. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #298 Date: 28 May 1999 14:15:35 EDT In a message dated 27/05/99 15:34:59 GMT Daylight Time, BosKen@aol.com writes: << the only one i read was from Mersey Cham. >> that's cos you got taste, son. Don't bother with the rest, they're academics, pinkos, pinko-bashers or weirdos fixing TVs in Afghanistan. Stick to Cham the man for real low-down. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: intenge@lagosnet.com.br Subject: (kw) Spamphobics Date: 28 May 1999 10:18:38 -0300 Agoraphobics, homophobics, recordaphobics, africanBambaataaaaaphobics, Elvisphobics, Startrekphobics, Teletubbiesphobics, what more we are? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Florian Schneider at the HfG, Karlsruhe next Monday Date: 29 May 1999 02:02:20 +0000 The following is quoted from http://wasistlosander.hfg-karlsruhe.de/x/Termine/FMPro?-DB=3DTermine&-F ormat=3Dtermine.htm&-lay=3DTermin_web&-SortField=3DDatum&-SortField=3DUhrz= eit &-op=3Deq&-error=3DError.htm&aktuell=3Dja&-max=3D20&-Find Mitteilung vom 26.05.99 Analoge Klangsynthese treffen mit Florian Schneider Montag, 31.05.99, 10 Uhr, Raum 610, HfG I, Analoge Klangsynthese mit dem Modularsystem A 100. Florian Schneider bringt auch einen eigenen Synthesizer mit. Einzelgespr=E4che mittags m=F6glich. ausserdem: Performance mit Sirius im kleinen Kreis. frank schweizer Translation: Meeting with Florian Schneider Monday, 31.05.99, 10:00 a. m., room 610, HfG I, Karlsruhe. Analogue sound synthesis with the modular system A 100. Florian Schneider will bring along one of his own synthesizers. Personal conversation is possible. Further: Performance with Sirius. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) "Im Takt der Maschinen" Date: 29 May 1999 10:07:25 +0200 The June/July-Edition of the german magazine "Konr@d" features an article about the history of electronic music. Kraftwerk are mentioned just with a few words, but there's a very good picture of Kraftwerk from 1981. Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- * "Interpol und Deutsche Bank FBI und Scotland Yard CIA and KGB * * control the data memory" (Computerworld) * * Georg Jajus - Vienna - Austria * * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * phone & SMS: +436765621850 * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Subject: (kw) KW live in London 1976 Date: 30 May 1999 18:03:00 +0000 Hi! I'm looking for a recording of a KW concert in London in 1976. If you have it and would be interested in a trade please mail me. My list of recordings is quite long so there's a good chance that you'll find something that you want. (Private mails please) /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk web site Date: 30 May 1999 18:04:00 +0000 My new web site dedicated to Kraftwerk is now to be found at http://www.angelfire.com/ma/tradespot! Just click "Kraftwerk"! Feel free to mail your comments. (privately, please) I hope you'll like it. /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "A girl from venus" Subject: (kw) Hello! Date: 30 May 1999 11:52:06 EDT Hello everyone! I know this topic isn't about Kraftwerk but i noticed a lot of person from Germany on this list. I am from Canada and i am planing to travel in Germany this summer. I wanted to know if there's any good place to hang out, visit and any good record store. Tanx Amelie XxX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "_Mr._ Sigurd Gulliksrud" Subject: (kw) record shops, NY? Date: 31 May 1999 11:55:41 +0200 (CEST) I'm going to New York tomorrow - are there any record shops I ought to visit if I'm looking for kw, depeche mode or new order bootlegs? Sigurd http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigurdgu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) genres inspired by Kw (was karl bartos visited my site!!!) Date: 30 May 1999 10:48:47 +0200 Die Bl=F6de Buhle wrote: >1) can someone give me a list of all the genres that were created or >inspired by Kraftwerk? Like, even in new techno/hardcore/gabber I can >sometimes feel the Kraft... The hip-hop of New York, the house of Chicago, the Detroit techno, the Mi= lan spaguetti-disco, the acid and its sequels, the sound of Manchester, the Sheffield minimal-techno, the Belgian cyberpunk or the trance of Berlin o= we great part of their idiosyncrasy to the models marked by Kraftwerk. In the midst of the limited bands appeared in the escene of Duesseldorf i= n the chronologicaly main stage of the German rock, and of the krautrock in general, only KRAFTWERK had a significant implication in all world and so persistant as to finish establishing itself as a systematic, influential concept and massly accepted by the critics, audience and artists of very different generation. KRAFTWERK are responsible for almost all modern pop music, they've provided a nice map for techno. "TanzMusik" is a preamble to the prophetic notion of dance music. It coul= d consider the song "Ananas Symphonie" as a target of the ambient music. Ye= ars in advance, "Neon Lights" is an excellent model of ambient-house. "Autoba= hn" is the first techno-pop song of the history. And "Numbers" the first elec= tro genre song. According to the music press, the roots of ambient-techno, it is based on Can, Tangerine Dream and KRAFTWERK. "Trans-Europe Express" was massively imitated in the US during the birth = of the hip-hop era. The KRAFTWERK model, more extreme and complex, beats behind the Detroit-techno rhythms, which it changed to a more cool structure. The House of Chicago and the Detroit-techno have gather another part of t= he influence the rhythmic sequence and the exquisite coolness of the synthesizer have been assimilate by the bands that lead techno in war to death against rock, and there go from Blake Baxter to Boo Williams and fr= om the electro to the beginning of the frequency. It is logic bearing in min= d the longevity of a band that go through almost every states of the techno= 's evolution. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk composes EXPO melody Date: 31 May 1999 19:58:18 +0200 (DFT) The following is quoted from http://www.merkur-online.de/news/dpazetnet/tickeronl70_2_3105_0531174309.html: Die Expo will im kommenden Jahr auch mit kulturellen Hoehepunkten aufwarten: [...] Die deutsche Musikgruppe Kraftwerk, die in den 70er Jahren mit Computermusik bekannt wurde, hat fuer die Expo eine Erkennungsmelodie komponiert, in der in mehreren Sprachen elektronisch verzerrt "Expo 2000" gesprochen wird. Sie soll kuenftig in Bussen, Bahnen und Flugzeugen, in Rundfunk und Fernsehen sowie in Telefonwarteschleifen gespielt werden. Translation: Kraftwerk have composed the signature tune for the EXPO 2000 world's fair in Hannover. The piece features an electronic voice that speaks "Expo 2000" in various languages. The intention is to use this tune to promote the EXPO in buses, trains, planes, on radio & TV and for telephone wait loops. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk concert in Hannover Date: 31 May 1999 20:27:56 +0200 (DFT) The following is quoted from http://expo07.expo2000.de/pm_www/pm_details?pr_id=1419 KRAFTWERK komponiert Jingle der EXPO 2000 Die legendaere deutsche Kultband KRAFTWERK ("Autobahn") hat die Erkennungsmelodie der Weltausstellung komponiert, den EXPO-Jingle. Zum Einsatz kommt die einpraegsame Tonfolge beispielsweise bei Ankuendigungen von Rundfunk- und Fernsehuebertragungen, zur Begruessung im Internet oder als Pausengong bei Expo-Veranstaltungen. Live zu erleben ist KRAFTWERK in einem Konzert auf der Weltausstellung am 9. Juni 2000 in der Arena. Translation: Kraftwerk's EXPO 2000 signature tune (see my previous message) will be also used for Internet purposes and during EXPO events. Kraftwerk will also perform live at the EXPO Arena, Hannover, on June 9th, 2000. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Brega" Subject: (kw) Warfield concert Date: 30 May 1999 22:30:46 PDT I've discovered at 209.53.18.49 an ftp site containing the whole Warfield concert. I can login with mp3 but unfortunately I don't know the password. Anybody interested,that could help me ? nicolabrega@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dirk Wied" Subject: (kw) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:10:43 +0200 Date: 31 May 1999 17:40:14 -0600 just a note :-) sorry, but can't translate :-( Live zu erleben ist die Gruppe Kraftwerk, die mit ihrem Hit ''Autobahn'' 1974 die US-Charts st=FCrmte, am 9. Juni 2000 = auf dem Expo- Gel=E4nde. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) News on my MP3 page: now a real mailing list is available Date: 31 May 1999 21:11:28 +0200 Hi, For those interested about knowing when I update my MP3 page with KW (& others) MP3's, I've now created a mailing list so you can easilly subscribe / unsubscribe when you like. To subscribe, send a blank message to music-non-stop-subscribe@egroups.com. To unsubscribe, send a blank message to music-non-stop-unsubscribe@egroups.com. and btw, I have effectively updated the page this evening. http://home.worldnet.fr/bonald/audio/mp3.htm Regards, Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:10:43 +0200 Date: 31 May 1999 19:45:13 -0400 Live to experience is the group power station, which stormed with its hit ' ' motorway ' ' 1974 the US Charts, on 9 June of 2000 on the Expo areas. Dirk Wied wrote: > > just a note :-) > sorry, but can't translate :-( > > Live zu erleben ist die Gruppe Kraftwerk, die > mit ihrem Hit ''Autobahn'' 1974 die US-Charts stürmte, am 9. Juni 2000 auf > dem Expo- Gelände. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/