From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) "New" Date: 01 Aug 1999 01:20:47 -0700 Wow, the future release date for this album is 8/3/99. I have purchased one. This is it. I can feel it. Bill Vladimir Tittl wrote: > > Sorry if this has been covered before. > > But at CD Universe they have a kw album called "New", but they have no > further explanations, so short of buying it to find out what it is, I'd > rather ask here first. > http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/exactartist.asp?type=Artist&frm=&search=Kraftwerk&tries=1&qs=artist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) "New" Date: 01 Aug 1999 02:14:57 -0700 Oh, and here is a little something that has possibly a new version of Antenna? On top of that it's got some rather excellant pieves. The Klaus Schulze, FSOL and Controlled Bleeding are worth it for their classic value right there. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000JTC4/qid=933498244/sr=1-1/002-5434072-8593823 Bill William Talley wrote: > > Wow, the future release date for this album is 8/3/99. I have purchased > one. This is it. I can feel it. > > Bill > > Vladimir Tittl wrote: > > > > Sorry if this has been covered before. > > > > But at CD Universe they have a kw album called "New", but they have no > > further explanations, so short of buying it to find out what it is, I'd > > rather ask here first. > > http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/exactartist.asp?type=Artist&frm=&search=Kraftwerk&tries=1&qs=artist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADivakaran@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #323 Date: 31 Jul 1999 21:21:28 EDT In a message dated 7/31/99 6:13:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:43:49 > From: nebulous@erols.com > Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? > > Soleil Lapierre wrote: > > >The Model is an obvious choice, because it can't help but sound great any > >way you cover it. It gets covered a lot, probably for that reason. > > Just curious if anyone else out here shares the following > sentiment regarding "The Model". For some reason, of all the songs > I've ever heard Kraftwerk perform *live* in concert over the years, > "The Model" has always struck me as the one which sounded the worst > live, as if they were using amateur Casio keyboards or something, the > type you might expect to find in a live wedding or bar mitzvah band. > I've heard KW perform "The Model" live during the '81 tour, the '91 tour, > and even the '98 tour, and still I've found the same thing to be true > when compared to the rest of the songs in their canon. It's a great > song, I just wish it sounded closer to the recorded version from > "The Man-Machine" LP when performed live on-stage. i think it's that tinny lilting rhythm. it doesn't really use a kick drum (or a snare as we now know it) so it doesn't sound contemporary at all. there's barely any syncopation either, which gives it that sing-song nursery-rhyme rhythm that only adds to the overall lightness of the piece. personally, while i like the song, to my ears it's almost the least exciting thing they did and certainly doesn't capture that kraftwerkian essence that defines all their other stuff. ashok # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ola_Qvarnstr=F6m?=" Subject: (kw) Neon Lights cover Date: 01 Aug 1999 20:24:20 +0200 Hi, The e-zine "Perfect Sound Forever" has a cover of Neon Lights by a group called Luna on their "monthly mix tape" http://www.furious.com/perfect/mixtape8.html. There is no sound files, the tape is just a suggested compilation by a critic. Has anybody heard this cover? /Ola # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "d..." Subject: (kw) to werkers in paris, rome, milan, berlin and amsterdam Date: 01 Aug 1999 14:57:03 -0500 hello werkers, i will be in in paris, rome, milan, berlin and amsterdam on my honeymoon in september. if anyone on the list is interested in hooking up and maybe shopping for records or having dinner or something please drop me an e-mail at d@techno.ca regards from toronto, derek... peace, love and ambience. d... d@techno.ca www.clo.com/~orbital www.mp3.com/figital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) Les Mannequins Date: 02 Aug 1999 01:19:18 +0000 hello, i have a discography question today, so maybe someone who has compiled one can help me. here it is: Is the full length version (6:10, not an edit or a remix) of "Les Mannequins" released on The Model Retrospecive 1975-1978 album the only official CD release of that song, or does it appear on any other CD's? i already know about the 7" and 12" releases, i am looking for the CD now. thank you, lenny g b.s. and what the hell is with that "new" album crap, does anyone know what the hell it is? b.b.s. since i am typing, Lorie Anderson is #86 in VH1's greatest women of Rock'n'Roll count down. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Fw: (kw) Off-Topic : Telex Date: 02 Aug 1999 15:27:51 +0200 Huggy Bear wrote: >They also did >a cover of Tour de France. No, this is not a cover since Telex did this song in 1981, one year before Kraftwerk. Tour de France by Telex hasn't got to do with Tour de France by Kraftwerk. This year when "Tour de France" by Kraftwerk is reissued Yazoo's "Only You" is also re-released. Quoted from MLT Info This Week @ Mute (w/c 26/7/99): >[6] Forthcoming releases: >Yazoo - "Only You" (1999 Mix) single >Yazoo sleeve graphics and audio at http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/yazoo/ Quoted from Popular M.C.M UK: "b. Gary Anthony James Webb, 8 March 1958, Hammersmith, London, England. Originally appearing under the group name Tubeway Army, Numan enjoyed enormous success in the UK at the close of the 70s. His Kraftwerk -influenced electronic music saw Tubeway Army top the UK charts in May 1979 with 'Are Friends Electric?' By September 1979 Numan abandoned the group pseudonym for the follow-up single 'Cars' which also topped the UK charts and reached the US Top 10. At his peak, Numan was one of the bestselling artists in Britain and his albums The Pleasure Principle and Telekon both entered the charts at number 1. His science-fiction orientated lyrics and synthesizer-based rhythms brought further Top 10 successes with 'We Are Glass', 'I Die: You Die', 'She's Got Claws' and 'We Take Mystery (To Bed)'. As the decade progressed his record sales steadily declined and his glum-robotic persona was replaced by that debonair man-about-town who also enjoyed aviation. In March 1982 he attempted to fly around the world in his light aircraft and was arrested in India on suspicion of spying. The charge was later dropped. While his reputation among music critics atrophied amid accusations of anachronism, his fan base remained solid and his recordings continue to reach the lower placings in the UK charts. His career took an upturn in 1996 following the use of 'Cars' in a television beer ad. Numan promoted the greatest hits album with gusto. Nothing had changed except his hair, which had become much thicker and darker." Encyclopedia of Popular Music Copyright Muze UK Ltd. 1989 - 1998 BTW, have you notice the Kraftwerk-Asimov connection? For example, the Asimov's book "The Complete Stories II" (1992) begins "The enterprise Robots and Mechanic Men of USA have got a problem. The problem was the people." As well, Isaac Asimov wrote a book titled "The Human Robot". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Kerbrat Subject: Re: (kw) Les Mannequins Date: 02 Aug 1999 12:06:37 -0200 >i have a discography question today, so maybe someone who has compiled one >can help me. here it is: > >Is the full length version (6:10, not an edit or a remix) of "Les >Mannequins" released on The Model Retrospecive 1975-1978 album the only >official CD release of that song, or does it appear on any other CD's? i >already know about the 7" and 12" releases, i am looking for the CD now.=20 > >thank you, > >lenny g > "Les Mannequins" is also on another cd : "Kraftwerk/Trans-Europe=20 Express", cd-single "Classic Capitol Dance Tracks" collection,=20 Capitol C2-15620. Track listing : 1. Trans-Europe Express (LP version) 2. Trans-Europe Express (Single version) 3. Les Mannequins. 4. Showroom Dummies. /\___/\ \_@ @_/ -----------------oOO-(_)-OOo----------------- kerbratf@cancom.net ------------------=F4=F4=F4---=F4=F4=F4------------------ \O/ \O/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Especial de Kraftwerk Date: 02 Aug 1999 16:00:59 +0200 On http://www.tomate.com.mx/electroscene.html there is a tribute to Kraftwerk in realaudio, 40 minutes to enjoy. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Klaus Dinger vs. EMI Date: 02 Aug 1999 16:58:47 +0000 Klaus Dinger seems to have problems with EMI Electrola, who apparently want to release some NEU! / La Duesseldorf material: http://www.gawl.de/Dingerland/emi01.html (German language). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: Fw: (kw) Off-Topic : Telex Date: 02 Aug 1999 14:26:03 -0400 >>They also did >>a cover of Tour de France. > >No, this is not a cover since Telex did this song in 1981, one year before >Kraftwerk. Tour de France by Telex hasn't got to do with Tour de France by >Kraftwerk. does Tour de France by John Tesh have anything to do with wither the KW or the Telex song? lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: Re: (kw) Especial de Kraftwerk Date: 02 Aug 1999 22:27:02 -0300 Does anybody know where I copy this file so that I can listen off-line ?? -- Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda Der Automat wrote: > On > http://www.tomate.com.mx/electroscene.html > there is a tribute to Kraftwerk in realaudio, 40 minutes to enjoy. > > DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) off topic - opinions on my new song? Date: 02 Aug 1999 21:40:26 -0400 I just released my single 'Taj Bhopal' and would like to hear if you like it. The second mix will appear tomorrow or the next day but I posted the beta version. I think you will like it. It is 134 BPM and modeled on Kraftwerk's form. www.mp3.com/cheapfiller Thanks Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: Re: (kw) Especial de Kraftwerk Date: 03 Aug 1999 00:08:09 -0300 On 2 Aug 99 at 22:27, Victor wrote: >Does anybody know where I copy this file so that I can listen off-line ?? Here you can download it: http://www.tomate.com.mx/realaudio/electroscene.rm [6.4MB] Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Klaus Dinger vs. EMI Date: 02 Aug 1999 21:18:22 +0200 On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:58:47 +0000, Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > >Klaus Dinger seems to have problems with EMI Electrola, who >apparently want to release some NEU! / La Duesseldorf material: > Fairly good idea from EMI ! So, wat's the problem (in short)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Neon Lights cover Date: 03 Aug 1999 10:27:15 +0200 Ola Qvarnstr=F6m wrote: >The e-zine "Perfect Sound Forever" has a cover of Neon Lights by a group >called Luna on their "monthly mix tape" >http://www.furious.com/perfect/mixtape8.html. There is no sound files, t= he >tape is just a suggested compilation by a critic. Has anybody heard this >cover? I have heard it. The cover version of Neon Lights by the New Yorker band Luna is based guitar. Luna are Sean Eden, guitar / Lee Wall, drums / Dean Wareham, vocals & gui= tar / Justin Harwood, bass. Their CDsingle is called "Superfreaky Memories" CD5: 1999 UK Beggars Banquet (BBQ334) (released April 5, 1999), tracklist= : Superfreaky Memories Neon Lights The Bad Vibe Merchant http://www.teleport.com/~luna/luna/discog.html DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Les Mannequins Date: 03 Aug 1999 10:28:00 +0200 47 lenny g wrote: >Is the full length version (6:10, not an edit or a remix) of "Les >Mannequins" released on The Model Retrospecive 1975-1978 album the only >official CD release of that song, or does it appear on any other CD's? i >already know about the 7" and 12" releases, i am looking for the CD now. AFAIK "Les Mannequins" is also included in: Classic Capitol Dance Tracks CD: Trans-Europe Express (LP version) 6:41, Trans-Europe Express (single version) 3:54, Les Mannequins 6:01, Showroom Dummies 6:02 and Showroom Dummies CDs: The Robots (extended version) 6:11, The Robots (single version) 3:42, Showroom Dummies (single version) 6:00, Les Mannequins (single version), Spacelab (bonus track) 5:56. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) New Album Date: 03 Aug 1999 09:23:14 +0100 Fellow Werkers Well everybody. It's the 3rd August today. Does anyone know any more about the mysterious album? Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: K. Lux KW cover Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:07:56 -0500 Re: >I am considering doing an instrumental cover of a Kraftwerk song... I am >interested KW listmember's choices as to which one. If I decide to go with >it, I will release it too all KW listmembers first.. Greetings all: First I want to say thank you for the kind responses I have received thus far regarding this project I intend to do. I am touched by this. It is looking like I will begin production soon, on one of the these three choices: Kometenmelodie 1 & 2 Ohm Sweet Ohm Tanzmuzik These 3 songs, already "fit" my style of music already so I think they would be fitting. There is discussion on my own mailing list, to possibly do a "medley" of several songs, I am considering this also. I will keep the list informed as this will take some time to complete as it must be done right and to my satisfaction prior to releasing. I'am off to the !Pulss Studio. Sincerely, Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Promo Only CD Date: 03 Aug 1999 16:58:43 +0100 Check it out everyone. Someone is selling a 'promo only' CD of the EXPO 2000 jingle on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=139343985 also, the Buenos Aires gig has turned up as a 2CD set http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/results.html?maxRecordsReturned=30 0&maxRecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&ht=1&query=Kraftwerk&srchdes c=y # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Klaus Dinger vs. EMI Date: 04 Aug 1999 00:49:12 +0000 > >Klaus Dinger seems to have problems with EMI Electrola, who > >apparently want to release some NEU! / La Duesseldorf material: > > Fairly good idea from EMI ! > So, wat's the problem (in short)? Unfortunately, the text is not very informative... It seems that EMI believed that Klaus Dinger had agreed to let them re-release some NEU! / La Duesseldorf material, while he apparently never gave his permission. Now he demands a formal statement from EMI that they won't publish any NEU! / La Duesseldorf stuff. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: (kw) TdF Date: 03 Aug 1999 19:16:07 -0400 Why do I have the feeling that the TdF reissue is the only "new" product we'll see, maybe forever? Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Re: Promo Only CD Date: 04 Aug 1999 09:12:05 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Oi01hg3bpmrbATElCSBAnA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit If you absolutely must have one of these, get in contact with the organizers of EXPO 2000 and persuade them that you are a journalist / radio presenter, and they'll send you one of these Kraftwerk EXPO 2000 jingle CDs for free. It's got to be smarter that shelling out loads of dosh to some greedy bastard who paid nothing for it in the first place, hasn't it? Still waiting for my TDF 12" from Tower Europe... Jon. > From: Paul Martland > Subject: (kw) Promo Only CD > > Check it out everyone. Someone is selling a 'promo only' CD > of the EXPO 2000 jingle on Ebay. --Boundary_(ID_Oi01hg3bpmrbATElCSBAnA) Content-type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="j.alsbury.vcf" Content-description: Card for Jon Alsbury Content-disposition: attachment; filename="j.alsbury.vcf" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Alsbury;Jon tel;fax:020 7753 5120 tel;work:020 7753 3202 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:University of North London;Information Systems and Services version:2.1 email;internet:j.alsbury@unl.ac.uk title:Intranet Developer adr;quoted-printable:;;Tower Building SG04=0D=0A166 - 220 Holloway Road;London;;N7 8DB;UK fn:Jon Alsbury end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_Oi01hg3bpmrbATElCSBAnA)-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ALR" Subject: Re: (kw) TdF Date: 04 Aug 1999 22:12:49 +1000 Having listened to the TDF re-release very carefully - The 'Radio Version ('3:07') is indeed a 1999 remix. The synth spit sounds and the bass drum are new. There is even a cyclying (!) tape hiss noise where they have looped some of the sequences on a sample. Listen closely for the tape noise from the 1983 version appearing every time Ralf sings. The other versions are just the same....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux KW cover soundtest Date: 04 Aug 1999 10:39:46 -0500 Greetings all: Located at: http://kevinlux.simplenet.com/kwlist/ Is a soundtest of the beginning of Europa Endlos/Europe Endless. It is only a soundtest at this point and only slightly longer than a minute. I may complete the entire cover, if there is significant response. This is not related to my current project mentioned previously. Regards, Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) TdF Date: 04 Aug 1999 12:10:19 EDT >Why do I have the feeling that the TdF reissue is the only "new" product >we'll see, maybe forever? Peace. I haven't even seen that yet. Silly Tower Records. >The synth spit sounds and the bass drum are new. There is even a cyclying >(!) tape hiss noise where they have looped some of the sequences on a >sample. Gee, maybe The Mix 2 will be all of our favorites "remixed" with different tape hissing!! I can't wait :) -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) TdF Date: 04 Aug 1999 12:19:12 +0000 >>The synth spit sounds and the bass drum are new. There is even a cyclying >>(!) tape hiss noise where they have looped some of the sequences on a >>sample. -forgive me for stating the obvious here, but Dolby NR was already long since invented in 1983, so why is there tape hiss at all on these tracks? >>The other versions are just the same....... -no, the other mixes sound like crap, and that is my professional opinion. i have a DJ only 12" bootleg of those two mixes which sounds the same, if not better. i've recorded better sounding crap on a radio shack cassette deck. >Gee, maybe The Mix 2 will be all of our favorites "remixed" with different >tape hissing!! I can't wait :) > >-ericg- Highly questionable. since the recent discovery about the degradation of old analog tape, where by chemical reaction the synthetic tape backing starts to turn into gelatenous goo. the process is triggered by none other than sitting around for a long long time. the tape manufacturers never bothered to do a 15 year long test on the synthetic tape backing. the process by which this goo can be solidified is called "tape baking" and it is exactly what it means: one would bake the tape in an oven at a specific temperature for a specific amount of time. so you see how chancy this is, the tape might not come out at all, and baking can only be done once. once baked, the tape must be transferred to ADAT or other digital medium and then it can be used no more. so if there is a Mix 2, it will most likely be a bunch of new digitally generated boring old mixes, kind of like on Mix 1, but most likely and most importantly no tape hiss, since all the vocal tracks will be replaced with new digitally synthesized vocal tracks, which will also reflect some aspect of a current social, political, or environmental issue, kind of like on Mix 1. Unless Kraftwerk are planning a surprise for us all, (i.e. a new album) then this senceless bashing of tape hiss on TdF is part of their master plan to make us feel bad when they come out with a brilliant new album. Think about it first we bash the Mix, then we bash the Jingle, now we bash the TdF, what's next? lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) TdF Date: 04 Aug 1999 13:47:49 EDT In a message dated 04/08/99 18:13:20 GMT Daylight Time, 47@radiolink.net writes: << Think about it first we bash the Mix, then we bash the Jingle, now we bash the TdF, what's next? >> how 'bout we bash some bongos ? K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel J.Fauza Subject: (kw) Hipnose CD Date: 04 Aug 1999 15:44:04 EST Hey all. The first album of my ambient/trance project, called Hipnose, is availabl= e on http://www.mp3.com/hipnose It contains 10 tracks, at U$5,99. There some examples in MP3 and RA format. Thanks and sorry for the off-topic. _____________________________________________ Michel J. Fauza - http://www.fauza.cjb.net ICQ: 12449637 - Campinas/SP - Brasil - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fase 3 - http://fase3.cjb.net FMD Fusion Machine - http://www.mp3.com/fmdfm Hipnose - http://www.mp3.com/hipnose _____________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) NEW YORK`s concert in video Date: 04 Aug 1999 19:47:09 -0300 Holla, werkers. I`m here again, with the same offer... If you want, I have for trade the Kraftwerk`s concert recorded in New York City (1998). This is my best video (Thanks, my friend Eric, from Canada), because shows the last tour, including the two new songs... Interested ?? So, contact me privately. BOING !! BOOMM !! TSCHAK !!!!!! 97 FM Colatina ES BRASIL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Technopop demo Date: 04 Aug 1999 03:22:36 +0100 So whats the opinion on this demo? Seen as there's nothing else going on... -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: (kw) Wild Speculation About Mix 2 Date: 04 Aug 1999 22:17:56 EDT Personally, I find it more likely that Kraftwerk would release a new album than a "Mix 2," especially since they have already previewed 3 songs. However, there's no doubt that Kraftwerk has also created new versions of songs such as The Man-Machine and Numbers, etc. In addition, much has been said and written, even by Kraftwerk themselves at times, about creating new mixes of former songs, and transferring the old analog songs to digital form. As great as it is, the Mix seems like only the first stage in this project, with many fan favorites left out. Has anyone else thought about the chances of Kraftwerk releasing a box set of all their old albums transferred to the "new" digital form? For Kraftwerk, this would be a much safer move than releasing a new album, which would open them up to the scrutiny of music critics and many fans who would judge new KW against other late 90s electronica. A box set of remakes and remixes would be instead compared to the original versions, and would be much less likely to damage the "genius" and "ahead of their time" descriptions of the band. Also, it would mark an official completion of KW's transferral to digital, and achieving this goal, Kraftwerk could retire with some sense of finality. It would also explain why Kraftwerk has taken so @#%$! long working at Kling Klang with nothing new released. Such a huge project might take this long to produce great results. Still, I'm just speculating. This is just one possibilty. If I had to bet, I'd still say that Kraftwerk will release an album of new material sometime next year. I'm rather sure that they have already created several albums of great new stuff, but Kraftwerk's reputation and the high expectations surrounding any new material create a difficult environment for them. 90s bands such as Guns N' Roses, Dr. Dre, Nine Inch Nails, and Metallica have also had to deal with unrealistic expectations due to long delays; imagine the kind of pressure on a band that hasn't released anything new since 1986 and is considered almost single-handedly responsible for creating whole genres of music. The only other band under similar pressure that I can think of right now is Pink Floyd, which started imitating itself a long time ago. Kraftwerk will return!! -ericg- "Music non stop, technopop" (LOVE that demo! Of course, I love the album version too...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Technopop demo Date: 04 Aug 1999 23:39:58 EDT I like it. And since there's nothing else going on, we could talk about=20 Klaus Dinger. I don't know if anybody has a lot to say about him. I=20 personally think that he is the most fucked-up person in the music world=20 ever. Has anyone ever visited the Dingerland web pages? He is really=20 interesting and frightening. I enjoy Neu! a lot. There is stuff like "Hero= "=20 but I am also into the Michael Rother sound (like "Isi"). You can tell it's=20 Rother because some of the sound in Harmonia tunes give you the same feel. = I=20 haven't heard any La D=FCsseldorf stuff. I want to get some of it. If any = of=20 you people have opinions about it I'd like to know. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Wild Speculation About Mix 2 Date: 05 Aug 1999 00:07:23 +0000 Phaethon0@aol.com wrote: Kraftwerk's reputation and the high expectations >surrounding any new material create a difficult environment for them. 90s >bands such as Guns N' Roses, Dr. Dre, Nine Inch Nails, and Metallica have >also had to deal with unrealistic expectations due to long delays; imagine >the kind of pressure on a band that hasn't released anything new since 1986 >and is considered almost single-handedly responsible for creating whole >genres of music. The only other band under similar pressure that I can think >of right now is Pink Floyd, which started imitating itself a long time ago. Wendy Carlos who has single-handed revolutionized electronic music in 1968 with "Switched on Bach" which is to date the best selling classical album ever, released an album last year called "Tales of Heaven and Hell" (which was excellent, if not her best work), prior to that a digital remake of the original "Switched on Bach" in 1991 and the last album before that was Beauty in the Beast in 1986. Is there a pattern forming here, any other examples, anyone? I think the boys (and girls) are getting old, but Wendy Carlos still got it! She is planning a box set release for this/next year called (are you ready for this) "Switched On Box set". so Kraftwerk better get off their asses and do something fast since their american arch nemesis (as stated by some book i read somewhere) is 1 up on them. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Re: (kw) TdF Date: 05 Aug 1999 08:19:49 -0400 >than sitting around for a long long time. the tape manufacturers never >bothered to do a 15 year long test on the synthetic tape backing. the >process by which this goo can be solidified is called "tape baking" and it >is exactly what it means: one would bake the tape in an oven at a specific >temperature for a specific amount of time. so you see how chancy this is, >the tape might not come out at all, and baking can only be done once. once >baked, the tape must be transferred to ADAT or other digital medium and >then it can be used no more. so if there is a Mix 2, it will most likely Interesting...one other group I have here has re-released an album from 1981. They included one of their old songs, and described the baking process (but didn't say WHY it had to be baked). So, perhaps this why the new KW release is "Half-Baked"? >be a bunch of new digitally generated boring old mixes, kind of like on Mix >1, but most likely and most importantly no tape hiss, since all the vocal >tracks will be replaced with new digitally synthesized vocal tracks, which >will also reflect some aspect of a current social, political, or environmental >issue, kind of like on Mix 1. Yes...remix the old instrumental tracks, add synthethised vocal tracks (like the EXPO 2000 jingle), and BAM! A new album... >Unless Kraftwerk are planning a surprise for us all, (i.e. a new album) >then this senceless bashing of tape hiss on TdF is part of their master >plan to make us feel bad when they come out with a brilliant new album. >Think about it first we bash the Mix, then we bash the Jingle, now we bash >the TdF, what's next? Maybe these could be a precursor to what IS coming out...kind of like "You wanted it - here's a slap in the face for you." I'm thinking that maybe they REALLY don't have it in them anymore; they know it and that is why they haven't released an album in so long. Think about it - EC was the last completely new album they did, correct? Not saying I didn't like the concert either - I loved it. But, Ralf's voice didn't seem quite up to par , and the actual music was...well, I think you could say t was "The Mix - Live". So perhaps The Mix 2 will by and large disapoint even more people than The Mix did. I'm not sure just how much Karl & Wolfgang contributed, judging by their solo work, but I don't think KW's music was quite as good after they left. Strange, because I think their first 3 albums plus Tone Float were some of the best, and most obscure records ever made (gotta love Milk Rock & Klingklang...) Huggy Bear (The opinions expressed were done so with my wife screaming...not very inspirational.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: (kw) I think that instead of Mix 2... Date: 05 Aug 1999 08:53:08 -0400 ... KW ought to release a live CD. Why not? (Because then they couldn't tour again with exactly the same material? :-) Seriously, I'd love to have those versions of "Numbers" and "Airwaves." Plus think of all the bootlegs it would render redundant. And they wouldn't have to write anything new. It sounds like the perfect KW venture. Actually, now that I think about it, such a CD would effectively *be* a Mix 2, just with crowd noise mixed in. Just an idea. -- Adam J Weitzman "They don't make music like that NewsEdge Corporation these days. In fact, sometimes http://www.newsedge.com they don't even make music." http://www.newspage.com - Dave Barry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Echoboy Date: 05 Aug 1999 14:59:40 +0200 Quoted from the Elefant distributions catalogue (http://www.elefant.com): "Echoboy "Scene" 10=94 Earworm Records. Avant-garde a la Neu!, Kraftwerk.= .. Harassed by Mute, Creation... Limited edition to 500 copies hand made." Echoboy have recently signed for Mute Records. Does anyone of you know where Echoboy come from? Apparently they are English. BTW, is anybody able and kind to tell me if the following records: Anthony Rother "Sex With The Machine" Klaan CD and Basskraft "A Tribute To Kratwerk" Pandisc CD (the record catalogue I saw says it's hip-hop) are worth purchase? TIA. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: The 'new' sound of Kraftwerk? [Was: (kw) TdF] Date: 05 Aug 1999 09:27:15 -0400 ] left. Strange, because I think their first 3 albums plus Tone Float were ] some of the best, and most obscure records ever made (gotta love ] Milk Rock & Klingklang...) first of all, i totaly agree with you. altough i belive that kristallo was the best song kraftwerk ever did (r&f #3). now to my point - am i the onlyone that think that the new songs played recently, is alot more like kw,kw2 and r&f? the only diffrence between the new stuff and the really old stuff is, according to me, only the technology used. compare the 'tribal' track with kristallo. its basicly the same song in higher bpm. they have added fjopps and drums and the insane piano have been replace with an insane arpeggitor driven with high resonance. this is to me mot a setback for kraftwerk - this is back to when kraftwerk was ralf&florian. listen to it! compare them! even the flanger sound is the same. i love the new sound of kraftwerk. they have picked up where others left [who up where kraftwerk left], and did what they used to do. this is great! karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: The 'new' sound of Kraftwerk? [Was: (kw) TdF] Date: 05 Aug 1999 09:51:46 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, karl wettin wrote: > ] left. Strange, because I think their first 3 albums plus Tone Float were > ] some of the best, and most obscure records ever made (gotta love > ] Milk Rock & Klingklang...) > > first of all, i totaly agree with you. altough i belive that > kristallo was the best song kraftwerk ever did (r&f #3). I wouldn't go so far as to call it their best song, but I agree with both of you that KW1 & 2 and R&F, and even Tone Float, are worthy of being included in the KW "canon." I consider R&F in particular to be just as good as any of the later albums, and it's not really all that different from Autobahn. Kristallo in particular is a lot like techno, but a lot of the other early tracks are highly reminiscent of what later came to be called industrial and ambient. Some of the later tracks on KW1 (1971!) could almost be performed by Einsturzende Neubauten in the early '80s. And many of the tracks on KW2 and R&F ('71 & '73) are a lot like the ambient music that Brian Eno and his associates were making in the mid-'70s. I think that KW have made a mistake in not re-releasing their early stuff, as I think they might be writing themselves out of the full credit that is their due in music history. I also agree that the recent stuff sounds a lot like their early music. KW seems to have gone through the same phases that a lot of trendsetting bands go through: they started out really experimental, finally settled into a new style, took it as far as it could go, and now return to their roots to try and find something new. However, I do think that the new tracks they performed on their recent tour still need some work before they acquire the "polished" feel of the rest of their music. ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "I must invent my own system, or be Student Services, enslaved by another man's." The University of Michigan --William Blake LS&A Honors Program http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Off Topic Date: 05 Aug 1999 16:46:37 +0200 Hi all, does anybody know anything about the tv program "Space Night" on the satellite (deutsch?) channel Alpha ? I saw a little part of it last night, and I found it beautiful, so full of electronic-space-ambient-techno music..... Thanx, Didi, Milano # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux KW cover soundtest Date: 05 Aug 1999 07:41:05 -0400 -----Original Message----- >http://kevinlux.simplenet.com/kwlist/ >Is a soundtest of the beginning of Europa Endlos/Europe Endless. It is only >a soundtest at this point and only slightly longer than a minute. I may >complete the entire cover, if there is significant response. Kevin, it sounds great! I would certainly love to hear the whole thing.. Also, if this is any indication of what to expect from your other project...I can't wait, I'm sure it will be good too. Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) I think that instead of Mix 2... Date: 05 Aug 1999 12:29:56 EDT >Actually, now that I think about it, such a CD would effectively *be* a >Mix 2, just with crowd noise mixed in. There's some rumors that suggest that the Mix itself was largely a "live recording"- that is, created in real-time and simply recorded off the mixer. Of course, this "Live from Kling Klang" sound doesn't feel like a live album since it's not actually reocrded on a tour. -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re[2]: (kw) I think that instead of Mix 2... Date: 05 Aug 1999 12:52:22 -0400 >There's some rumors that suggest that the Mix itself was largely a "live >recording"- that is, created in real-time and simply recorded off the >mixer. How else would they do it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: Re[2]: (kw) I think that instead of Mix 2... Date: 05 Aug 1999 12:53:28 -0400 ] >There's some rumors that suggest that the Mix itself was largely a "live ] >recording"- that is, created in real-time and simply recorded ] off the >mixer. ] ] How else would they do it? sequence all the triggers on the keyboards/effects. good old midi you know. considering the exact beats, i would say its sequenced, and im pretty prepare to dissmiss the idea that the mix would be something 'jammed' in the studio. im pretty sure about that kristallo is a live-jam though :) karl\ http://www.mp3.com/wettin/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:RE: Re[2]: (kw) I think that instead of Mix 2... Date: 05 Aug 1999 13:08:17 -0400 >] >There's some rumors that suggest that the Mix itself was largely a >] >"live >] >recording"- that is, created in real-time and simply recorded >] off the >mixer. >] >] How else would they do it? > sequence all the triggers on the keyboards/effects. > good old midi you know. I see. That's what I'd understand current KW "real-time" recording to be. (as opposed to, say, completely calculated soundwaves that take longer than their playtime to compute, such that it's a single stereo sample before it's ever played in real time e.g. for albums on tape -- and I'd doubt that this would be necessary these days) > considering the exact beats, i would say its sequenced, > and im pretty prepare to dissmiss the idea that the mix > would be something 'jammed' in the studio. Absolutely. > im pretty sure about that kristallo is a live-jam though :) Unless it's a multi-track recording. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 05 Aug 1999 12:41:47 -0700 Ralf is very insecure, that's why we have "Electric Cafe" instead of "Technopop", and he's also a perfectionist, that's why we have "The Mix" instead of a "Best of". As for Florian, he said, "There's so much sound pollution". That's why he wanted to play safe with the EXPO jingle. He can't find the same inspiration that Art of Noise "Beatbox" drum solo gave him back on the days. As for Kraftwerk going back to the early 70's "hippie" days, it will contradict Ralf's philosophy of the pursuing of what he likes to call "the perfect pop song for the tribes of the global village". Fellow werkers, whether we like it or not, "The Man Machine", "Computer World" and "Electric Cafe" co-composer is not sharing anymore evenings, ice creams and espressos in Kling Klang studio with R & F. His name is Karl, and although he was mainly KW's drummer, he had a lot to do with KW's music. He even did all the programming for "The Mix" during the Five-year (it takes a while to learn how to use new instruments) production of the album. They didn't credit him though. That VERY important part of KW is missing, and it shows, especially on those three new songs. Almost every techno band was compared to them. They fear the opposite now. I'm afraid they're obsessive fifty some years old musicians with a lot of pride and a lot of fear. Come on, accept the risk. Make a move already. Bring back the excitement. We need you. KW4EVER! Enrique n.p.: Autechre "tri repetae++" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 05 Aug 1999 16:23:35 +0000 >I'm afraid they're obsessive fifty some years old musicians with a lot of >pride and a lot of fear. >Come on, accept the risk. Make a move already. >Bring back the excitement. We need you. >KW4EVER! >Enrique either that, or auction off Kling Klang so that someone else might have a go at it. it will probably make them more money than any new or remake albums they might put out for as long as they live. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) unclear future Date: 05 Aug 1999 13:50:39 PDT Well, first of all, it's very ironic that Enrique mentioned Art of Noise and Ralf. I've also read from some crtics that "Beat Box" inspired "Boing Boom Tschak" to a certain degree. But I think that is a little far-fetched. I love Art of Noise to DEATH, but to compare them KW is quite a long shot. Anyways, I think what we have on our hands is the fear of not living up to the fans' expectations, and a possibility of becoming an abused commodity if in fact they do release a new CD and somehow other people besides us actually begin to give a shit. :0 Imagine KW being #1 on Billboard and kicking the Backstreet Boys and Limp Bizkit's ass to a bloody pulp. It's so funny how many kids I talk to that say that they love techno, and when I mention KW, they're just like, "who the fuck is that ?" I was exactly like that. You know why ? NO ONE IS DOING THEIR JOBS ANY MORE ! No radio airplay, no videos, no place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame; they've been rejected by everyone, so now the KW legacy is just reduced to word-of-mouth and CD review books. I think EMI and Elektra have done an EXTREMELY shitty job of keeping the KW legacy alive. EMI and Capitol care more about the Beatles and the Beach Boys rather than our heroes, and Elektra has just been screwing around. Didn't they reissue "Autobahn" in the US back in 1988 ? Why they fuck did they take it back out of print again ? I hate having to buy the imports ! Our boys just have to reinvent their sound a littile bit. I'd personally like to hear some stuff that sounds more like the early days. Ralf and Florian shouldn't shun this period so much. The new song from ZKM reminds me of a bit "Kristallo" and "Ohm Sweet Ohm" mixed in with a nice, slow, urban beat. At least if they won't put out a new album, they NEED to reisssue Tone Float, KW 1 & 2, and Ralf and Florian. This IS A MUST ! I don't know why Kling Klang would want to continue to lose money through bootlegs. I mean, if all our stars that have left or died came out with new CD's they would be judged as hard as KW would. If Bob Marley were still alive, how would the critics rate his new music ? Marvin Gaye ? A Beatles reunion ? the Police ? They'd all be slaughtered by the press as well. KW just neds to bite the bullet. They've never been a group that has bowed down to tradition, so why buckle under pressure now ? NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 Date: 05 Aug 1999 18:25:02 EDT Corresponded with someone at Expo 2000.....this was 1 thing they had to say: Furthermore we are planning a special edition of the jingle (short > version 6 x 4 seconds and long version 6 x 15 seconds). > Thought you may be interested. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) unclear future Date: 05 Aug 1999 15:35:52 -0700 >Juno Jackson wrote: >Well, first of all, it's very ironic that Enrique mentioned Art of Noise >and Ralf. I've also read from some crtics that "Beat Box" inspired "Boing >Boom Tschak" to a certain degree. But I think that is a little far-fetched. >I love Art of Noise to DEATH, but to compare them KW is quite a long shot. Excerpt from a "Sound on Sound" interview with KB: "...then we got a little bit lost in technology, to be honest. Suddenly, in the mid-'80s, all this digital equipment appeared, including sampling; and there was this fantastic record called 'Beatbox' produced by Trevor Horn (later re-released as 'Close To The Edit' by the Art Of Noise -- mid-'80s). His drum sound blew our minds! So we had to step back and think it all over, incorporate MIDI and sampling, and a lot of other stuff..." Well, maybe AoN didn't quite inspired KW, but in a way, "Beatbox" did sent some serious shocking waves to Kling Klang, and to Ralf's wallet, to the point of making him buy the very expensive sequencer sampler Synclavier. >I mean, if all our stars that have left or died came out with new CD's >they would be judged as hard as KW would. If Bob Marley were still alive, >how would the critics rate his new music ? Marvin Gaye ? A Beatles reunion ? >the Police ? They'd all be slaughtered by the press as well. They will probably be judged as Art of Noise is being now. They are being slaughtered by the press and even by some of their fans. I'd just brought the 2CD "The Seduction of Claude Debussy" in a second hand store for US$ 6.99. Not a bad price for a fancy hip-hop CD. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 06 Aug 1999 00:50:11 -0300 On 5 Aug 99 at 12:41, Enrique Correa wrote: >Fellow werkers, whether we like it or not, "The Man Machine", "Computer >World" and "Electric Cafe" co-composer is not sharing anymore evenings, ice >creams and espressos in Kling Klang studio with R & F. His name is Karl, and >although he was mainly KW's drummer, he had a lot to do with KW's music. Excuse me, but I don't think that way. First, Elektric Music sucks (it's Karl's work) it's just a crappy rip-off. Oh dear, do *anything* like to hear "I press the key and watch TV" with a pop-like-KW-Techno??? >He even did all the programming for "The Mix" during the Five-year (it takes a >while to learn how to use new instruments) production of the album. They >didn't credit him though. That VERY important part of KW is missing, and it >shows, especially on those three new songs. NO WAY! That three songs are *perfect* in my opnion. It's have Radioactivity's atmosfere, damn nice. >I'm afraid they're obsessive fifty some years old musicians with a lot of >pride and a lot of fear. I've just one thing to say: I'm the person who love Kraftwerk since 86, and didn't go to their konzert last year. I've *no* hope 'bout see then on the stage. *This* sucks! :-( Anyway, I believe (and hope) they'll not stop now. It's time for Kraftwerk, it's Y2K!!! God damn it, come on prove to us you're the same guys from 30 years ago!!!! Cheers, Priscila. PS: No need to say, Kraftwerk please, please and pleeeease go back here! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? Date: 05 Aug 1999 20:31:38 -0400 >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:37:46 -0500 >From: "Kevin Lux" >Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song? >[...] >I am considering doing an instrumental cover of a Kraftwerk song... I am >interested KW listmember's choices as to which one. If I decide to go with >it, I will release it too all KW listmembers first.. I hope it is not too late to respond... I was on vacation without access to e-mail... I'd like to see a version of Spacelab, myself. It's one of my favorites of the "instrumental" songs and one not heard much since it is not commonly covered or played in concerts (if at all). . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:04:59 +0200 At 00.50 06/08/99 -0300, Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >On 5 Aug 99 at 12:41, Enrique Correa wrote: > >>Fellow werkers, whether we like it or not, "The Man Machine", "Computer >>World" and "Electric Cafe" co-composer is not sharing anymore evenings, ice >>creams and espressos in Kling Klang studio with R & F. His name is Karl, and >>although he was mainly KW's drummer, he had a lot to do with KW's music. >>Enrique >Excuse me, but I don't think that way. First, Elektric Music sucks (it's Karl's >work) it's just a crappy rip-off. Oh dear, do *anything* like to hear "I press >the key and watch TV" with a pop-like-KW-Techno??? >Cheers, >Priscila. What about "by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody"? Didi, Milano # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re[2]: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 06 Aug 1999 11:19:02 -0400 >What about "by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody"? That's pure genius. -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Raistrick Subject: (kw) new material [part 4,396] Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:54:48 +0100 i realize this our holy grail and obviously hard facts are impossible to come by.but, for what it's worth,my spy at emi believes that some 8 or 9 tracks have been recorded for an album next year.make of that what you will.. khris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) FW: EXPO 2000 online auction Date: 06 Aug 1999 09:38:22 -0700 This is an *FYI* for those of you that are not "EXPO2K members" KW4EVER! Enrique > -----Original Message----- > From: member-area@expo2000.de [SMTP:member-area@expo2000.de] > Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 8:52 AM > To: ENRIQUEC@heraeusmtd.com > Subject: EXPO 2000 online auction > > Dear Member of the EXPO 2000 Member Area, > > We give you a warm invitation to the first EXPO 2000 online auction. Bid > for and buy the World Exhibition's signature tune the Expo jingle, by the > German cult-band Kraftwerk. Long since sold out, the limited-edition > Kraftwerk/EXPO 2000 CD has already become a coveted collector's item. In > the next four weeks we will be auctioning three Kraftwerk-fan packs > containing interesting photographs of the band Kraftwerk as well as the > CD. We would be pleased to welcome you to this unusual event as a bidder > or spectator. > > Visit the Internet address below and you're away! > > http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/aktuell/index_ak_auktion.html > > > Your EXPO 2000 Internet Team # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Liethen" Subject: (kw) More mp3 downloads Date: 06 Aug 1999 11:06:31 -0500 (CDT) Hey list members, I posted some more Kraftwerk Live mp3 on my server. You can now find the San Francisco 98 and one of the Tokyo 98 concerts on my server. The URL is: http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/pete/kw Please, try to download files during non-office hours (5pm to 8am, -5 GMT) PS, if you want to upload some KW stuff to the server and share with everyone else, please contact me. -Peter Liethen pliethen@execpc.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 online auction (fwd) Date: 06 Aug 1999 11:41:33 -0600 (MDT) I got this spam from Expo 2000 today. I'm not sure if this is the same thing that was mentioned a couple of days ago, but it's very interesting. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear Member of the EXPO 2000 Member Area, We give you a warm invitation to the first EXPO 2000 online auction. Bid for and buy the World Exhibition=92s signature tune the Expo jingle, by the German cult-band Kraftwerk. Long since sold out, the limited-edition Kraftwerk/EXPO 2000 CD has already become a coveted collector=92s item. In the next four weeks we will be auctioning three Kraftwerk-fan packs containing interesting photographs of the band Kraftwerk as well as the CD. We would be pleased to welcome you to this unusual event as a bidder or spectator. Visit the Internet address below and you're away! http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/aktuell/index_ak_auktion.html Your EXPO 2000 Internet Team # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 online auction Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:54:10 +0000 so is this the EXPO's genious master plan to make back the $200,000 w= hich they spent on the jingle? and of course, why was this CD release never mentioned in the first p= lace and they are already sold out? something is not right here. lenny g >Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 >From: member-area@expo2000.de >Subject: EXPO 2000 online auction > >Dear Member of the EXPO 2000 Member Area, > >We give you a warm invitation to the first EXPO 2000 online auction.= Bid for and buy the World Exhibition=92s signature tune the Expo jingle, = by the German cult-band Kraftwerk. Long since sold out, the limited-edition Kraftwerk/EXPO 2000 CD has already become a coveted collector=92s ite= m. In the next four weeks we will be auctioning three Kraftwerk-fan packs containing interesting photographs of the band Kraftwerk as well as t= he CD. We would be pleased to welcome you to this unusual event as a bidder = or spectator. > >Visit the Internet address below and you=92re away! > >http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/aktuell/index_ak_auktion.html > > >Your EXPO 2000 Internet Team # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 online auction Date: 06 Aug 1999 12:44:44 -0600 (MDT) On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, 47 wrote: > so is this the EXPO's genious master plan to make back the $200,000 which > they spent on the jingle? Looks like it. Mind you, being the KW fanboy I am I'm almost considering bidding on it. > and of course, why was this CD release never mentioned in the first place > and they are already sold out? > > something is not right here. I know. It smells like some kind of bootlegger is selling stuff through the Expo site. The site says: "We are making available for auction three packs for Kraftwerk fans, comprising the Kraftwerk CD with the Expo jingle in six languages along with interesting photographic material (six photoprints in format 18 x 13 cm). The reserve price per Kraftwerk fan pack is DM 30.00." It looks to me like they just grabbed the jingle from the website and scanned a few album covers. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 online auction/jingle song/Flur-Bartos side project Date: 06 Aug 1999 14:34:04 +0000 >On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, 47 wrote: >> and of course, why was this CD release never mentioned in the first place >> and they are already sold out? >> >> something is not right here. > Soleil Lapierre wrote: >I know. It smells like some kind of bootlegger is selling stuff through >the Expo site. The site says: > >"We are making available for auction three packs for Kraftwerk fans, >comprising the Kraftwerk CD with the Expo jingle in six languages along >with interesting photographic material (six photoprints in format 18 x 13 >cm). The reserve price per Kraftwerk fan pack is DM 30.00." > >It looks to me like they just grabbed the jingle from the website and >scanned a few album covers. i don't know if it's a bootlegger, but that just goes to show that the world at large still doesn't know and doesn't care who Kraftwerk is, and may be the EXPO management finally realized that, and now are trying to desperatly find fan base for their jingle which happens to be made by Kraftwerk so that they may look better in the eyes of German taxpayers and government. that's just one of my theories. also, someone, i beleive it was Klaus Zaepke, mentioned that there was supposed to be a longer musical version of the jingle sometime down the road. does anyone know anything about that. has anyone who lives in Germany heard it on radio, TV, or governmental phone hold loops? also, was giving the Tim Barr book another chance the other night, and i came accross something i missed before. on page 86 he writes: "During the early years with Kraftwerk, Bartos and Flur had a side project together called Sinus". i don't beleive i've ever heard of that before. All the discographies i've seen neglect to mention that. or is that simply not so? does anyone have any info/recordings of this side venture of Wolfgang and Karl? laters, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 07 Aug 1999 00:27:17 -0300 On 6 Aug 99 at 13:04, Didi wrote: >What about "by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody"? I was talking. Elektric Music TV song is just a crappy clone of Pocket Calculator. I'm very upset with Bartos, because he get out of Kraftwerk (I personally *never* could do it, in his place!!!) saying bad things about their music and do it??? He sucks!!!! >:-( Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) TDF has left the German Top 100 again. Date: 07 Aug 1999 08:36:34 +0200 see subject # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de Subject: (kw) Re: EXPO 2000 online auction Date: 07 Aug 1999 08:46:47 +0200 member-area@expo2000.de wrote: > Dear Member of the EXPO 2000 Member Area, > > We give you a warm invitation to the first EXPO 2000 online auction. > ... > http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/aktuell/index_ak_auktion.html Now we know how they will get back the DM 400,000 ;-) Gubbolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: blloyd Subject: (kw) Two questions about the Telephone Call Date: 07 Aug 1999 10:58:11 -0400 All, I'm here listening to my vinyl 12" of the Telephone Call (with House Phone and Der Telefon Anruf). In the House Phone, near the middle of the recording there is this sound which can only be described as a swirling groaning sound - like someone yawning. It's quite audible, and I'm not mistaking it for something else. What is it? What were the boys thinking? Secondly, has any decifered what the DTMF tones are in the Telephone Call? Bruce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:26:55 +0200 At 00.27 07/08/99 -0300, Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >On 6 Aug 99 at 13:04, Didi wrote: > >>What about "by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody"? > >I was talking. Elektric Music TV song is just a crappy clone of Pocket >Calculator. I'm very upset with Bartos, because he get out of Kraftwerk (I >personally *never* could do it, in his place!!!) saying bad things about their >music and do it??? He sucks!!!! >:-( > >Cheers, >Priscila. O.K., but it's more KW's style the music of whole album Esperanto than the three new songs by KW themselves! didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 07 Aug 1999 13:22:24 EDT << O.K., but it's more KW's style the music of whole album Esperanto than the three new songs by KW themselves! >> What bullshit I mean come on Bartos makes me sick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux EE cover! Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:26:48 -0500 Greetings all! I have completed the first cover at this time. As promised, I am announcing it here on the Kraftwerk list, and on my own mailing list. This is my cover version 1.0 of "Europa Endlos/Europe Endless", in mp3 format. http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm I apologize for the file size, as soon as I can, I will be putting up a real audio streaming version. I did not want to loose any quality as my version runs over 11 minutes long! There are no vocals, as this would not make it a "Kevin Lux" cover. I produce no vocals in my material. For those interested technically, all sound sources just happen to be German electronic pieces, some of which Kraftwerk actually uses.. ie: Quasimidi Polymorph, 309, Doepfer Regelwerk, 2 MS-404 units etc.. Please post any responses also to this list, so we can generate more hype. This song is for you, the avid Kraftwerk fan, as a tribute to Kraftwerk. For our members overseas from the U.S. if anyone wants to mirror this page/files, please contact me privately. I want everyone who wants to hear this, to be able to. Like Kraftwerk, my original music (and Kraftwerk covers) is for the entire world to enjoy. I am guessing the kevinlux.simplenet.com site will be overloaded for a short time, but simplenet is pretty good with dealing with high volume. I may do a few more variations of this song before committing effort to the next cover song by Kraftwerk, and my own compositions. Please also if you have a chance, browse around on my websites for my original productions. If you enjoy "Kraftwerk" type electronic music, you may find me entertaining as well. I encourage you to listen to the original "Europa Endlos/Europe Endless" prior to my cover. It will make it that much more enjoyable I am sure. I hope this puts a smile on your face as much as it did for me making it. Thank you much and peace to all. Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux EE cover! Date: 07 Aug 1999 18:49:31 -0400 Perfecto~~ The download & the bytes were worth every second. Pure liquid joy.You hit the spot. Very moving & inspirational. This is an amazing tribute. My hat is off to you. Please keep this wonderful music coming. I am sure one day we will be going to your concerts.GREAT STUFF. Best regards Nitrous Kevin Lux wrote: > > Greetings all! > > I have completed the first cover at this time. As promised, I am announcing > it here on the Kraftwerk list, and on my own mailing list. This is my cover > version 1.0 of "Europa Endlos/Europe Endless", in mp3 format. > > http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darksidepg@aol.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk "Tour de France" US 12" for sale Date: 07 Aug 1999 02:40:22 EDT Hello everybody, I am taking offers on a US copy of Kraftwerk's 1983 "Tour de France" (Warner Bros. 0-20146) featuring: Tour de France (french version) and Tour de France (remix). The cover is in fair condition and the record is near mint. If your interested let me know. Thanks, Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 online auction/jingle song/Flur-Bartos side Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:01:07 +0200 >early years with Kraftwerk, Bartos and Flur had a side project together >called Sinus". i don't beleive i've ever heard of that before. All the I thnik to have read this in the interview Fluer gave to the british magazine "Future Music" (or was it the Mix?) when Yamo's Time Pie was published. I think to remember that Bartos and Fluer had this project before they knew R&F. then R&F coopted Bartos, and then Bartos introduced them Fluer (or was it viceversa?). anyway working with K (when K where working, that is) was so intense they had no longer time for their own project. excuse for being so imprecise... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:03:09 +0200 >I was talking. Elektric Music TV song is just a crappy clone of Pocket >Calculator. I'm very upset with Bartos, because he get out of Kraftwerk (I come on, now! don't start thinking to Kraftwerk like a teenage band like Backstreet boys or spice girls! he is a real man and need to be a real musical worker. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darksidepg@aol.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk "Tour de France" US 12" for sale Date: 07 Aug 1999 20:38:12 EDT Hello everybody, I am taking offers on a US copy of Kraftwerk's 1983 "Tour de France" (Warner Bros. 0-20146) featuring: Tour de France (french version) and Tour de France (remix). The cover is in fair condition and the record is near mint. If your interested let me know. Thanks, Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Model cover on American TV Date: 07 Aug 1999 21:28:45 +0000 This is really fucking amazing! i was just watching a show called Models Uncovered about models and fashion photographers, etc, on American TLC channel, and they used Balanescu Quartet's version of The Model in the show. Ok, so it's really not that fucking amazing, but i happend to have the computer on and so i hurried to e-mail all of you about this rather dull, but very rare event. i hope more TV used kw music. thanks all, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 online auction/jingle song/Flur-Bartos side Date: 08 Aug 1999 00:04:39 EDT << I thnik to have read this in the interview Fluer gave to the british magazine "Future Music" (or was it the Mix?) when Yamo's Time Pie was published. >> I have this issue of "Future Music". According to the article, Wolfgang=20 Fl=FCr was in a group with Michael Rother called Spirits Of Sound prior to=20 joining Kraftwerk. The group broke up in 1971. I read something similar in=20 an interview with Michael Rother, only the group was called Sons Of Sound. Sam Paterson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux EE cover! Date: 08 Aug 1999 08:16:33 -0400 I don't remember if I replied to this yet or not...if I did, sorry. >I have completed the first cover at this time. As promised, I am announcing >it here on the Kraftwerk list, and on my own mailing list. This is my cover >version 1.0 of "Europa Endlos/Europe Endless", in mp3 format. Excellent! Very well done, it shows a lot of work that went into it. I also checked out some of your other original items on your website. If those aren't KW influenced, I don't know what is...influenced - but not the same. Are your CDs available? Where? >I apologize for the file size, as soon as I can, I will be putting up a real >audio streaming version. I did not want to loose any quality as my version >runs over 11 minutes long! There are no vocals, as this would not make it a Size is not a problem...well worth the 10 minute download time. Huggy Bear np: Kevin Lux - Robot Music 2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Model cover on American TV Date: 08 Aug 1999 10:20:08 EDT In a message dated 8/7/99 10:19:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 47@radiolink.net writes: << This is really fucking amazing! i was just watching a show called Models Uncovered about models and fashion photographers, etc, on American TLC channel, and they used Balanescu Quartet's version of The Model in the show. Ok, so it's really not that fucking amazing, but i happend to have the computer on and so i hurried to e-mail all of you about this rather dull, but very rare event. i hope more TV used kw music. thanks all, lenny g >> Last week I was TV channel surfing (with the sound off, naturally) and came across the show "Sessions of 54th" on public television (WHUR, Washington, DC), and performing was David Byrne doing "The Model". His band included a string section and a theriman (sp?) player. He did a little "robot" dance while he sang -- which looked pretty stupid, but the cover version was OK. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux EE cover response Date: 08 Aug 1999 16:16:13 -0500 Thank you for the kind compliment. I sincerely appreciate it. My goal and effort now is currently to make this statement a reality! I can't wait to stand in front of you all and hopefully entertain you. It will be my greatest pleasure. Kevin Lux >I am sure one day we will be going to your concerts.GREAT STUFF. Best regards Nitrous Kevin Lux wrote: > > Greetings all! > > I have completed the first cover at this time. As promised, I am announcing > it here on the Kraftwerk list, and on my own mailing list. This is my cover > version 1.0 of "Europa Endlos/Europe Endless", in mp3 format. > > http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm > http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 06 Aug 1999 15:35:59 +0200 On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 00:50:11 -0300, Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >Excuse me, but I don't think that way. First, Elektric Music sucks (it's Karl's >work) it's just a crappy rip-off. Oh dear, do *anything* like to hear "I press >the key and watch TV" with a pop-like-KW-Techno??? I really disagree. I think Karl go beyond KW's tries with voices manipulations etc. And Karl's voice is very pleasant anyway. Concerning Electric Music's second album, well , it is simply 90's british pop, not more. But after all, this showes that Karl is not prisoner of Kraftwerk's style and it's even good pop stuff. The only thing I regret about this second EM album is that Karl seems to hide the fact that he's German. He could have made a German version of "Call on me" , it could have been great. >NO WAY! That three songs are *perfect* in my opnion. It's have Radioactivity's >atmosfere, damn nice. Well, it seems that people on this list have different tastes and this is great. Personally , I think these three new KW songs are very poor. I'm not a techno specialist, but I'm pretty sure these songs already sounds dated. The force behind KW is their conceptual albums and their minimalistic music and these three new songs simply don't have their place with KW. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Model cover on American TV Date: 08 Aug 1999 13:53:59 +0000 Tom807@aol.com wrote: >Last week I was TV channel surfing (with the sound off, naturally) and came >across the show "Sessions of 54th" on public television (WHUR, Washington, >DC), and performing was David Byrne doing "The Model". His band included a >string section and a theriman (sp?) player. He did a little "robot" dance >while he sang -- which looked pretty stupid, but the cover version was OK. the string players were the Balanescu Quartet, the same one's i beleive. that's the second time i missed that. lenny g p.s. theremin - you almost had it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darksidepg@aol.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk "Tour de France" US 12" for sale Date: 09 Aug 1999 01:55:08 EDT Hello everybody, I am taking offers on a US copy of Kraftwerk's 1983 "Tour de France" (Warner Bros. 0-20146) featuring: Tour de France (french version) and Tour de France (remix). The cover is in fair condition and the record is near mint. If your interested let me know. Thanks, Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "polbox" Subject: (kw) TDF on FastForward Date: 09 Aug 1999 11:07:10 +0200 out of curiosity... did anyone see the TDF (new version) video clip on Fast Forward channel last Saturday around 10:55 (central europe time) ? it consisted entirely of old movie shots of Tour de France (straight out of the concert screens) tadream ps. special thanks to the guy who posted Warfield mp3's ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Spacelab cover (was RE: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux cover song?) Date: 09 Aug 1999 13:18:23 +0200 Erik J. Eid wrote: >I'd like to see a version of Spacelab, myself. It's one of my favorites of >the "instrumental" songs and one not heard much since it is not commonly >covered or played in concerts (if at all). AFAIK, Video Sex did a cover of "Spacelab" which it was included in "Trans Slovenia Express" (Mute Records, 1994) album. Another version by Mental Conquest is included in the double CD "Krafty Move: An electronic tribute to Kraftwerk" published by Energy Rekords (ERCD 111). There is also a German band called Spacelab. Unless I am mistaken. BTW, I need to buy a copy of "A Tribute to Kraftwerk" by Marc et Claude vs. Dr. Sam. Could anyone of you recommend me a place on-line where I can do it? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Kevin Lux EE cover update Date: 08 Aug 1999 21:42:49 -0500 The real audio streaming version has now been added. Regards, Kevin Lux -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 4:27 PM http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Auction Date: 09 Aug 1999 05:11:57 PDT Well, here is the easiest (but sick) way to get back the DM 200.000 paied to do this childwork. Considering the highest bid is now on DM 400, they just have to sell 500 copies to pay KW. Nice work, uh? It's easy to sell 500 of a extra-rare-and-unreleased-tracks CD + 6 mega-rare-and-beautiful-pictures pack to some stupid fans (us). It's much more sick than try to sell a very-new-super-mega-rare-german-import TdF enhanced CD on e-bay. Are they thinking we are stupid? IMHO we should disconsider this sick offer, not bid and send a mail to Expo organisation. Anyway, that 6 marvelous-and-super-double-mega-rare-tracks are crap (and are for free at my site, for example) and I won't pay DM 400 for six pics... I can be fool, but not stupid. Peace Nicolau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 online auction/jingle song/Flur-Bartos side project Date: 09 Aug 1999 20:38:23 +0200 also, someone, i beleive it was Klaus Zaepke, mentioned that there was supposed to be a longer musical version of the jingle sometime down the road. does anyone know anything about that. has anyone who lives in Germany heard it on radio, TV, or governmental phone hold loops? also, was giving the Tim Barr book another chance the other night, and i came accross something i missed before. on page 86 he writes: "During the early years with Kraftwerk, Bartos and Flur had a side project together called Sinus". i don't beleive i've ever heard of that before. All the discographies i've seen neglect to mention that. or is that simply not so? does anyone have any info/recordings of this side venture of Wolfgang and Karl? As far as I know, Flur had nothing to do with Sinus. Sinus originated in 1970 with Bodo Staiger (guitar, later Rheingold), Karl Bartos (drums), Rainer Sennewald (sax) and Peter Wollek (bass). After the departure of Karl Bartos in 1976 the band continued as Lilac Angels, who recorded an album produced by Klaus Dinger. No recordings of Sinus do exist. Ivo Peeters # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 09 Aug 1999 11:50:00 -0700 >Priscila wrote: >I was talking. Elektric Music TV song is just a crappy clone of Pocket >Calculator. I'm very upset with Bartos, because he get out of Kraftwerk >(I personally *never* could do it, in his place!!!) saying bad things about >their music and do it??? He sucks!!!! >:-( I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it. "TV" is a great song with a wonderful melody; and has absolutely nothing to do with "Pocket Calculator" in fact, that track along with "Esperanto" have string sounds that are very "Radioactivity-ish", and the percussion style brings back some "Electric Cafe" memories. IMHO, Elektric Music is an indispensable album for any Kraftwerk (and/or OMD) fan. Is filled with bright, energetic and very effective straightforward techno. I presume Karl had a lot of ideas back on his KW-ian days, and I don't see anything wrong with him realizing them with his own band. That, Priscila, is not *cloning*. Karl and Wolfgang had the same balls Bryan Ferry, Peter Gabriel, Alan Wilder, plus tons of others, had: they got tired of their bands, so they went their own way; and I happen to have a high regard for people like that. OK, maybe he said some bad things here and there about his former band, but he also said that Kraftwerk is "the best German group ever"... KWandBARTOS4EVER! Enrique np: "Tour de France" digitally remastered mixes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 Auction Date: 09 Aug 1999 12:13:14 -0700 >Nowhere000@aol.com wrote: >What bullshit >I mean come on >Bartos makes me sick The EXPO 2K auction and that effortless piece of crap jingle, are making ME sick. >Nicolau wrote: >IMHO we should disconsider this sick offer, not bid ... >I won't pay DM 400 for six pics... I can be fool, but not stupid I will not bid on it, even though I'm fool and sometimes pretty stupid. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Model cover on American TV Date: 09 Aug 1999 15:07:32 -0700 Wow, I would love to get an MP3 of that. > >Last week I was TV channel surfing (with the sound off, naturally) and came > >across the show "Sessions of 54th" on public television (WHUR, Washington, > >DC), and performing was David Byrne doing "The Model". His band included a > >string section and a theriman (sp?) player. He did a little "robot" dance > >while he sang -- which looked pretty stupid, but the cover version was OK. > > the string players were the Balanescu Quartet, the same one's i beleive. > that's the second time i missed that. > > lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) TDF on FastForward Date: 09 Aug 1999 15:10:02 -0700 No joke. I missed that concert due to work obligations, but having the MP3's is a wonderful alternative. Thanks, people. Bill > ps. special thanks to the guy who posted Warfield mp3's ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) EXPO auction Date: 10 Aug 1999 11:07:50 +0200 The latest bid is now 1000 DM !!!!!!!!!! An auction for the fans? Only the very rich fans I would say=2E=2E=2E /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Saarbruecker Zeitung on Kraftwerk Date: 10 Aug 1999 11:53:16 +0200 (DFT) Todays Saarbruecker Zeitung has a review of Kraftwerk's EXPO Jingle (German language): http://www.sz-newsline.de/feu/feu14.htm Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MuSiK" Subject: (kw) Kevin Busby's FAQ @ MTV Date: 10 Aug 1999 13:02:43 +0200 Hi ! I 'm looking for info about TdF at MTV WebSite and there is only one link about our loved band, and this is http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/ congratulations, Kevin. :-))) PD: After two weeks I finally got my TdF from CDNow ... yeeeha !! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: (kw) The way Kraftwerk used to do it... Date: 10 Aug 1999 08:09:25 -0700 Hello all. For those that are interested, audio has just been posted which showcases a "live and improvised" Efofex performance! Recorded digitally in 24-bit stereo. This performance was created in honor of the way Kraftwerk used to perform music back in the days of "Ruckzuck" and "Klingklang" - live and improvised! Where the music flows straight from the mind of the musician to the ears of the listener. And most importantly, the capabilities and limitations of the equipment are explored with reckless abandon for all to experience and enjoy together. The entire performance can be listened to here: http://efofex.simplenet.com/live1/ Efofex - "Decay of Strange Particles" - LIVE: July 27, 1999 Thanks. -John // efofex - noise has a new purpose http://efofex.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/efofex Are you on the Efofex mailing list? Join here: http://efofex.simplenet.com/mailinglist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Flur-Bartos side project Date: 10 Aug 1999 15:40:06 +0200 47 <47@radiolink.net> wrote: >also, was giving the Tim Barr book another chance the other night, and i >came accross something i missed before. on page 86 he writes: "During the >early years with Kraftwerk, Bartos and Flur had a side project together >called Sinus". i don't beleive i've ever heard of that before. All the >discographies i've seen neglect to mention that. or is that simply not so? >does anyone have any info/recordings of this side venture of Wolfgang and >Karl? AFAIK Wolfgang Fluer isn't involved in this musical project. In 1970 Karl was member of the experimental jazz-rock band Sinus, formed by Rainer Sennewald, Peter Wollek (bass), Bodo Staiger (guitar) and Bartos, who played drums. Then Peter Wollek and Bodo Staiger formed in 1976, Lilac Angels (name inspired in the Neu!'s song "Lila Engel", and whose first album was produced by Kraftwerk ex-member, Klaus Dinger), and in 1980 Staiger joined to Lothar Manteuffel, who came from the literary scene, to make Rheinglod. On the other hand Wolfgang Fluer initiated his musical career, as a percusionist, in 1970 in the bands The Beethovens and Spirit Of Sound, along with the guitarist Michael Rother (who the following year joined to Kraftwerk), and Wolfgang Reichman, the voice of the band. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 10 Aug 1999 10:46:20 -0700 Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >NO WAY! That three songs are *perfect* in my opnion. It's have >Radioactivity's atmosfere, damn nice. Arnaud de Bonald wrote: >Well, it seems that people on this list have different tastes and this is >great. Personally , I think these three new KW songs are very poor. >I'm not a techno specialist, but I'm pretty sure these songs already >sounds dated. IMHO, those three new songs are very weak. When they wrote those songs they only had one thing in mind: 808 State; don't get me wrong, I kinnda like 808, but I expected something different, something new from the creators of TEE, The Man Machine and Computer World. Anyway... I have one question for Ralf & Florian: Is there any better, more thrilling way of announcing the end of a century and herald the dawn of a new one, than by recording a jingle and releasing a 16 year old single? Is there? Please say: yes! I'll be a very disappointed fan if you say no. KW4EVER! Enrique np: "Volume 2: Release" Afro Celt Sound System # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Bootleg Update Date: 11 Aug 1999 00:26:39 +0000 a) Groove Mailorder lists a Kraftwerk 'Instore Sampler Vol. 2' 12" Bootleg in its catalogue. Catalogue number / tracklisting are reported as Kraft 002 1. The Robots (Ultimix) 2. Sex Object (Razormaid Mix) 3. Computerwelt (Razormaid Mix) 4. Pocket calculator (Mix It Remix) b) From the CD Europe database (www.cdeurope.com): Kraftwerk 2 Compact Disc Album $27.95 Label: crown records Release Date: 7/28/99 Release Notes: Official Re-Release Would it be right to assume that this "Crown Records" label is the Crown bootleg label, or is it Nippon Crown Ltd. (which could mean that it is indeed a legal release)? I know what's more likely, but does anyone have real facts? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) EXPO Jingle parliament debate Date: 11 Aug 1999 00:26:38 +0000 The EXPO mismanagement (Kraftwerk's jingle and other examples) was a topic in Lower Saxony's parliament debates back in July. A protocol of the debate (German language, MS-Word-format) is now downloadable from the parliament webpages at http://www.landtag-niedersachsen.de/Aktuelles/Steno%2031/top18.doc. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Taping Bartos @ Popkomm? Date: 11 Aug 1999 00:26:40 +0000 Is anyone planning to tape Karl Bartos' appearance at the Popkomm / 3rd Electronic Heatwave Festival in Koeln? I'd be interested in a recording, and I can offer Kraftwerk live material in return. Please mail me privately. BTW: The event has a webpage at http://www.livemusichall.de/ The page states that Bartos will release a new album this year, which will be more electronic-orientated than his last album. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 Auction Date: 11 Aug 1999 00:26:39 +0000 > Well, here is the easiest (but sick) way to get back the DM 200.000 paied to > do this childwork. DM 400.000. > It's easy to sell 500 of a extra-rare-and-unreleased-tracks CD It's not very rare, BTW. Some weeks ago the Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung gave 250 copies to their readers as promotional gifts, so there must be hundreds (if not thousands) of copies in circulation. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Taping Bartos @ Popkomm? Date: 10 Aug 1999 16:23:03 -0700 >Klaus Zaepke wrote: >BTW: The event has a webpage at >http://www.livemusichall.de/ >The page states that Bartos will release a new album this year, >which will be more electronic-orientated than his last album. Karl's current project is closer to Eno's in that it veers on the "experimental"; it is an album which Karl describes as "more like big beat". He's sharing credits with a German artist called: Flatz. "He's (Flatz) a fine artist, not a musician really... the record company signed him and then discovered that he can't write music! He's an interesting man, it sounds like a challenge". You GO Karl. Experiment all you want. Challenge is what makes my CD player worth *living*. KW&BARTOS4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (kw) OT : Mad Props to Kevin Lux Date: 10 Aug 1999 16:44:19 PDT Kevin Lux is pretty fucking cool ! He reminds me a lot of Kraftwelt. I was just checking out his homepage, and he's got a lot of great stuff under his belt to be proud of. MORE ARTISTS SHOULD RECORD THE WAY THAT KEVIN DOES !!!!! I mean, NINE ALBUMS IN FOUR YEARS is quite an accomplishment. Sometimes it's really hard for artists to get their creative juices flowing, and you can barely fit in much time to sit down and record because you've got so many other things to worry about. So Kevin, you said that you can make analog copies (I'm assuming that these are reels ?) and DAT copies of your albums; have you looked into the possibility of releasing vinyl ? That would be very plush. I also LOVE the cover art for your releases. Sincerely, NoiseWerker _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) EXPO Jingle parliament debate Date: 11 Aug 1999 13:02:59 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: The EXPO mismanagement (Kraftwerk's jingle and other examples) was a topic in=20= Lower Saxony's parliament debates back in July=2E A protocol of the debate=20= (German language, MS-Word-format) is now downloadable from the parliament=20= webpages at=20= http://www=2Elandtag-niedersachsen=2Ede/Aktuelles/Steno%2031/top18=2Edoc=2E Could someone please translate in short what is said about the jingle,=20= I tried BabelFish but it's too much text, thanks to anyone who would like to=20= do this! Regards/Johan =20= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 11 Aug 1999 15:34:09 +0200 >>I was talking. Elektric Music TV song is just a crappy clone of Pocket >>Calculator. I'm very upset with Bartos, because he get out of Kraftwerk >>(I personally *never* could do it, in his place!!!) saying bad things >>about >I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it. "TV" is a great song >with a wonderful melody; and has absolutely nothing to do with "Pocket >Calculator" Perhaps Karl Bartos tried to be satirical or ironic when imitating the style of Kraftwerk in this song. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Qu'est-ce qu'une eclipse totale de Soleil? Date: 11 Aug 1999 15:46:43 +0200 The last eclipse of the millenium is over... During the total eclipse of the Sun on 11 August, the sky was dark and some bright stars were easy to see. Avoiding your eyes for a moment from the glories of the solar atmosphere, and you could glimpse the planet Mercury, a newly fashionable target for space exploration. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: AW: (kw) Qu'est-ce qu'une eclipse totale de Soleil? / no KW conte nt!!! Date: 11 Aug 1999 16:00:32 +0200 >The last eclipse of the millenium is over... >During the total eclipse of the Sun on 11 August, the sky was dark and some >bright stars were easy to see. Avoiding your eyes for a moment from the >glories of the solar atmosphere, and you could glimpse the planet Mercury, a >newly fashionable target for space exploration. > >DER AUTOMAT I made some simple pics with my digicam of these eclipse. You can see them on: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/thumbnails.html As I have no zoom please don't expect too much... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 11 Aug 1999 13:16:23 -0700 >>Enrique Correa wrote: >>I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it. "TV" is a great >>song with a wonderful melody; and has absolutely nothing to do >>with "Pocket Calculator" >DER AUTOMAT wrote: >Perhaps Karl Bartos tried to be satirical or ironic when imitating the style >of Kraftwerk in this song. Perhaps Karl tried to be satirical and ironic at Ralf's objective of writing the perfect "global" pop song by calling his first album "Esperanto" (the global language, also means Hope) and by placing the old Japanese flag on it (representing the sun) and moreover, throwing sampled voices from around the world in some of the songs. I'll bet you Ralf got a kick at that. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger" Subject: (kw) re: Time to Face the Facts Date: 12 Aug 1999 00:16:09 +0300 >DER AUTOMAT wrote: >Perhaps Karl Bartos tried to be satirical or ironic when imitating the style >of Kraftwerk in this song. Perhaps Karl just sounds like Karl, since he co-wrote 'Pocket Calculator'. Anyway, both songs are brilliant. Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Qu'est-ce qu'une eclipse totale de Soleil? / no KW conte nt!!! Date: 11 Aug 1999 21:52:32 -0300 Thanks!!!! : ) I don't haved oportunity to see the end of world and this eclipse! : ) In Brazil like all knows don't is possible see the eclipse. Only the sky stayed cloudy and little dark! Thank you! Internet is a window to the world. : ))) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Pra=E7a////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: RE: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 11 Aug 1999 20:46:33 +0000 >>>Enrique Correa wrote: >>>I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it. "TV" is a great >>>song with a wonderful melody; and has absolutely nothing to do >>>with "Pocket Calculator" >>DER AUTOMAT wrote: >>Perhaps Karl Bartos tried to be satirical or ironic when imitating the >style >>of Kraftwerk in this song. >Enrique Correa wrote: >Perhaps Karl tried to be satirical and ironic at Ralf's objective of writing >the perfect "global" pop song by calling his first album "Esperanto" (the >global language, also means Hope) and by placing the old Japanese flag on it >(representing the sun) and moreover, throwing sampled voices from around the >world in some of the songs. I'll bet you Ralf got a kick at that. actually J M Jarre should have gotten a kick out of that since he did it all and more about ten years before Esperanto on his album ZOOLOOK. but, aren't we comparing apples and oranges here anyway... lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 12 Aug 1999 11:05:46 -0700 >>Enrique Correa wrote: >>and moreover, throwing sampled voices from around the >>world in some of the songs. I'll bet you Ralf got a kick out of that. >lenny g wrote: >actually J M Jarre should have gotten a kick out of that since he >did it all and more about ten years before Esperanto on his album >ZOOLOOK. but, aren't we comparing apples and oranges here >anyway... Yes, Jarre did it in '83, and Eno+Byrne in '81 with "My life in the bush with ghosts"; anyway, I was only aiming at Ralf and Karl somewhat "sarcastic connection" after they split, I wasn't trying to discover who got there first worldwide speaking (it could get hairy, u know?) The bottom line is that Ralf is far from being the one and only "working without respite (whatever, Ralf) toward the construction of the perfect pop song for the tribes of the global village". IMHO, the only (perfect?) pop song KW had EVER written is one of their most covered ones: "The Model", is short, concise, catchy, very likable and appealing to most of the cultures (and ages) of the globe, and it has no hi-tech sampled voices, or anything from the middle ages either (read: guitar). KW4EVER! Enrique np: "Wrong way up" Eno+Cale # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Familie de Haan" Subject: Re: AW: (kw) Qu'est-ce qu'une eclipse totale de Soleil? / no KW Date: 12 Aug 1999 21:09:23 +0200 >The last eclipse of the millenium is over... I'm sorry but next year (21th of juli) there will be an eclipse in Africa. This millenium runs from januari 1, 1901 to december 31 2000... I know that it is off topic, but to make it topical; EXPO 2000 will be the last of this century/millenium. Jeroen "Motorola inside" de Haan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk cover - Kevin Lux Date: 12 Aug 1999 14:56:23 -0500 >Subject: (kw) OT : Mad Props to Kevin Lux MORE ARTISTS SHOULD RECORD THE WAY THAT KEVIN DOES !!!!! >I mean, NINE ALBUMS IN FOUR YEARS is quite an accomplishment. >So Kevin, you said that you can make analog copies (I'm assuming that these >are reels ?) and DAT copies of your albums; have you looked into the >possibility of releasing vinyl ? That would be very plush. I also LOVE the >cover art for your releases. >Sincerely, >NoiseWerker Greetings all members: I want to thank Noisewerker for this wonderful compliment. I am deeply touched. It is statements like this, that make what I am doing worth it. I would be nothing without my fans. I admit I am a bit prolific, and I feel my more recent material is my best yet. I always have ideas. If Kraftwerk isn't making anything much these days, I always am! Cassette tape, DAT, and CD copies are available through my website. As I do not have a recording label secured yet, duplication is all handled by me at this point. I would love to release vinyl, but I need a recording label first to finance it. Most of my efforts as of late are with the http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux site as this is the easiest way to get my music out to you all at this point. I want to keep on topic for the Kraftwerk list, so feel free to join my own mailing list where I can go into more detail about production etc.. just drop me a line at: robotkl@earthlink.net and tell me you want to be subscribed. Back to topic, due to the overwhelming response for the Europe Endless cover, I just finished recording in the !Pulss studio, the "Club Lux" dance remix of the Europe Endless cover. I think you will all really enjoy it. I will announce when the song is available here first, and on my own list as before. The new version is more "my" usual style of things. It is more high energy at 150 bpm. I had a blast creating it and I am sure you will enjoy hearing it. I apologize for those members who have had difficulty obtaining the first Europe Endless cover. My site was overwhelmed. Don't worry, I will leave it on the site for the time being. Now that 2 versions of Europe Endless are complete, I will begin to concentrate on a few more covers of Kraftwerk among my own creation. Thank you for your interest, Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Europe Endless - Kevin Lux cover update Date: 12 Aug 1999 18:10:34 -0500 http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm The new "Club Lux" version is now available, along with a real audio version. I want to thank you all for your interest in my work, this song is my way of saying thanks. Please let me know your thoughts as always.. Dance to this and enjoy! Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: (kw) Sprockets Date: 12 Aug 1999 18:50:02 -0600 Mike Myers has been tapped to play "Dieter" in the full length motion picture based on the SNL "Sprockets" skit. It's due out next year. Electric Cafe anyone? http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/kw2000.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 jingle CD Date: 12 Aug 1999 20:17:44 -0700 I just got one in the mail! Cost to me: $0.00! i think this one came faster than my order for Tour de France CD from www.ab-cd.com, and this one was free! lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 jingle CD Date: 12 Aug 1999 21:22:19 -0400 It's kind of expensive. Someone bid $500? I think there's too much money floating around. Kind of weird. I kind of wanted to go to the expo but now I don't know. Anyone else going? btw. Here's my music, you can just download it for free. If you like the new song 'extinction' let me know and I'll upload the extended mix. http://www.mp3.com/cheapfiller # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Lavely" Subject: (kw) Ebay 7in record auction! Date: 12 Aug 1999 22:33:49 -0500 Hello, just wanted to let a quick note to let everyone know i'm auctioning off some of my Kraftwerk 7in records. Here are the numbers: 146068857 Musique Non Stop (WB 7-28532-A) 146070043 Numbers (WBS 49795) 146071893 Showroom Dummies (EMI 5272) 146078708 Pocket Calc b/w Dentaku (EMI 5175) 146081175 Computer Love b/w The Model (EMI 5207) 146083340 Tour de France b/w Instrumental (EMI 5413) Most of them feature unique edits of the songs...also if anyone wants to trade bootlegs, check out my list: http://members.aol.com/nlavely thanks! nick lavely # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Komputer's Valentina Date: 13 Aug 1999 16:03:34 +0200 Macromedia Director file made to promote the Komputer single "Valentina" and album "The World Of Tomorrow" available at http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/komputer/vir_val.htm DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Renner" Subject: RE: (kw) Time to face the facts Date: 12 Aug 1999 21:16:33 CDT >Perhaps Karl tried to be satirical and ironic at Ralf's objective of >writing >the perfect "global" pop song by calling his first album "Esperanto" (the >global language, also means Hope) and by placing the old Japanese flag on >it >(representing the sun) Well, seeing as this little German group has devoted fans in such diverse places as Japan, Brazil, Austria and Australia, perhaps they _did_ succeed in writing the perfect global pop song, or have at least come as close to it as anyone has so far. Hell, most of the members of this list are non-native speakers of English and/or German, or don't speak German at all. Of course, it doesn't hurt that Kraftwerk is fairly multilingual. (e.g. Dentaku/Pocket Calculator, Show-room Dummies/Les Mannequins, The Robots/Die Roboter, etc...) I recall someone on the list asking if there were any other artists that routinely did versions of their music in so many languages. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) Sprockets Date: 12 Aug 1999 21:02:55 -0400 Having never seen any of the skits, but heard them described many many times, I wonder: Has anyone ever recognized any of the (supposedly KWish) "dance" music as actually being KW pieces? -gbr ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "fxcordero" Mike Myers has been tapped to play "Dieter" in the full length motion picture based on the SNL "Sprockets" skit. It's due out next year. Electric Cafe anyone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "precision_lies" Subject: (kw) Kevin Lux's cover of Europe Endless Date: 13 Aug 1999 05:00:49 -0400 Nice job Kevin! I probably shouldn't publicly admit this but I thought your cover was more successful than much of Kraftwerk's "The Mix." I would like to see a full Kraftwerk cover album. I bet it would be good and take less than 5 years to make. Check out Kevin's cover at: http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm -Mike F. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Raistrick Subject: RE: (kw) Ebay 7in record auction! Date: 13 Aug 1999 14:58:12 +0100 what's a "unique edit" then? khris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re:(kw) Sprockets Date: 13 Aug 1999 11:39:18 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 rochow@pixelmagic.com wrote: > Having never seen any of the skits, but heard them described > many many times, I wonder: Has anyone ever recognized any > of the (supposedly KWish) "dance" music as actually being > KW pieces? The theme song for "Sprockets" played at the beginning and end of the show is unmistakably "Electric Cafe." They used it in every skit. ******************************************************************************* John Morgan "I must invent my own system, or be Student Services, enslaved by another man's." The University of Michigan --William Blake LS&A Honors Program http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lbo Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 jingle CD Date: 13 Aug 1999 17:42:21 +0200 > I just got one in the mail! Cost to me: $0.00! i think this one came who you told them you were? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marc Plainguet" Subject: Re: Re:(kw) Sprockets Date: 13 Aug 1999 12:16:02 -0700 >Having never seen any of the skits, but heard them described >many many times, I wonder: Has anyone ever recognized any >of the (supposedly KWish) "dance" music as actually being >KW pieces? Yes, the ending music of each skit was always the same. Dieter would say "And now is the time we dance!" and would start dancing wildly. The music was Electric Cafe played at double the speed. - Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re:(kw) Sprockets Date: 13 Aug 1999 09:39:29 -0700 John B. Morgan wrote: >The theme song for "Sprockets" played at the beginning and >end of the show is unmistakably "Electric Cafe." They used it >in every skit. Yes, it was "Electric Cafe" played at 45. For the scoop on this GREAT news, go to: http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,5168,00.html Excerpt: "Myers is about to sign a deal with Ron Howard' s Imagine Entertainment that could pay him $40 million for two movies, including one based on his German-accented SNL sketch, Sprockets, Daily Variety says [...] In Sprockets, look for the funnyman to don a black turtleneck as Dieter, the avant-garde, Euro-style talk-show host. According to Variety, the movie will revolve around Dieter's search for his beloved (and kidnapped) monkey" Joal Ryan August 12, 1999, 8:55 a.m. PT I can't wait for both, the movie AND its soundtrack! Its somewhat funny how things turned out to be... not long ago, Ralf, Fritz, Henning and Florian made their L.A. entrance dressed in matching black zippered turtleneck uniforms, looking a lot like "Dieter"... and about two years ago, Mike Myers himself told a reporter: "If I had to sit in a laboratory and think about a hit character, it wouldn't have been Dieter, because I wouldn't have gone for an androgynous German guy [...] I just do stuff as it comes along and as I see stuff." KW&DIETER4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Sprockets Date: 13 Aug 1999 14:10:03 EDT In a message dated 8/13/99 11:39:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rochow@pixelmagic.com writes: > Having never seen any of the skits, but heard them described > many many times, I wonder: Has anyone ever recognized any > of the (supposedly KWish) "dance" music as actually being > KW pieces? > It is "Electric Cafe" from the EC album played at 45rpm rather than the normal 33. Very funny, actually. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Sprockets Date: 13 Aug 1999 12:28:46 -0700 If you are not too familiar with Saturday Night Live and feel like checking out some sound clips go to: http://www.geocities.com/~comedygirl/snlsoundspage.html If you live in the United States, check out Comedy Central's schedule for SNL's Sprockets re-runs, starting tonight all the way up to Sep 26, at: http://www.comedycentral.com/vs/search_results.tin?sPattern=sprocket Its Sprocket madness, fellow werkers! Ralf & Florian, next time you receive a Telephone Call, please check out your caller ID. If it says: "Mike Myers c/o Creative Artists Agency" or something to that effect, please pick up the phone, some very juicy offer could be waiting on the other side of the line ;-) KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fxcordero@roadrunner.com Subject: (kw) Sprockets Date: 13 Aug 1999 21:37:03 GMT We saw Madonna pen "Beautiful Stranger" for "Austin Powers-The Spy who Shagged Me". Will Kraftwerk create the main theme for "Sprockets" or will we see a remixed version of "Electric Cafe" (Sprockets Mix)? Suggested phrase from Dieter.... "Kraftwerk, your hibernation bothers me. It has grown tiresome. Would you like to pet my monkey?" Favorite Sprockets episode.....This is the part where we dance....Kraftwerk (Electric Cafe) vs. Janet Jackson (Control) The dancers move robotically to EC.....and nearly riot in disgust to JJ. This may be our only opportunity to suggest to the script writer (Jack Handey,of Deep Thoughts fame) to somehow acknowledge Kraftwerk. At the moment, Kraftwerk is receiving a plug in almost every Hollywood/New York/Variety/showbiz insider write ups. Jack Handey is listed as script writer....but somehow I believe it is Mike Myers. Does anyone know Jack Handey? http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/home.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Sprockets Date: 13 Aug 1999 16:07:39 -0700 >fxcordero@roadrunner.com wrote: >This may be our only opportunity to suggest to the >script writer [...] Jack Handey is listed as script writer.... >but somehow I believe it is Mike Myers. Does anyone >know Jack Handey? AFAIK, Mike had already been paid for scripting "Sprockets". That takes Jack Handey out of the picture. FYI, Universal and Imagine Entertainment will pay him $20 million to star in "Sprockets" and that money is strictly for his acting. His writing fees are additional (it must be nice!). If anyone is interested in giving Mike some soundtrack ideas, here's his fan mail address: Mike Myers C/O Creative Artists Agency; 9830 Wilshire Blvd; Beverly Hills, CA 90212 KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) NEW VIDEO Date: 13 Aug 1999 21:19:49 -0300 Dear "werkers"; I have news for all. This week, I made a Compilation VIDEO, with KRAFTWERK playing in Brasil and Japan !! The `98 Tour. (Thanks, my friends Sakura - from Japan and Victor, from Rio de Janeiro). The videotape includes the songs : "Tribal", "Trans-Europe Express" (Kraft made a mistake !) " Musique Non Stop" and "The Robots" and more: a little interview with Florian Schneider (Well, he made short answers, like a "robot", but, for me this is a true treasure... Ah ! The compilation includes, too, a old version of "The Robots" (1978) with Karl & Wolfgang in action ! Want more ?? Well, how about excerpts from germany program, with Kraftwerk in airport ?? If interested, please, contact me privately. Eduardo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) NEW VIDEO Date: 14 Aug 1999 09:45:14 -0300 Dear "werkers"; I have news for all. This week, I made a Compilation VIDEO, with KRAFTWERK playing in Brasil and Japan !! The `98 Tour. (Thanks, my friends Sakura - from Japan and Victor, from Rio de Janeiro). The videotape includes the songs : "Tribal", "Trans-Europe Express" (Kraft made a mistake !) " Musique Non Stop" and "The Robots" and more: a little interview with Florian Schneider (Well, he made short answers, like a "robot", but, for me this is a true treasure... Ah ! The compilation includes, too, a old version of "The Robots" (1978) with Karl & Wolfgang in action ! Want more ?? Well, how about excerpts from germany program, with Kraftwerk in airport ?? If interested, please, contact me privately. Eduardo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 jingle CD Date: 14 Aug 1999 11:56:55 i went to the EXPO site. found the contact info, used an online e-mail form to contact the EXPO and requested one. i gave them my real name and address and told them that i am a radio producer/DJ of a worldwide broadcast program called "Radio Activity", which was true until May 1999, since after 4 years i have stopped working on the program and left my job at that radio station. so a week later or so, i got a package in the mail from the EXPO and there it was along with a press release. it is the same one that is listed in the International Kraftwerk Discography. lenny g Paul Martland wrote: >Hi 47 > >Can I ask how you got it? > > >Paul Lbo wrote: > >> I just got one in the mail! Cost to me: $0.00! i think this one came > >who you told them you were? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Sprockets Date: 14 Aug 1999 12:31:40 +0000 Jack Handey is a fictional character, otherwise his name would have been included in the SNL credits. lenny g >>fxcordero@roadrunner.com wrote: >>This may be our only opportunity to suggest to the >>script writer [...] Jack Handey is listed as script writer.... >>but somehow I believe it is Mike Myers. Does anyone >>know Jack Handey? >AFAIK, Mike had already been paid for scripting "Sprockets". That takes Jack >Handey out of the picture. >Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) Pre-Concert music(At Duran Duran Show!) Date: 15 Aug 1999 00:14:37 -0400 Ok, So, I'm not a big fan of Duran Duran. But my wife is.. I got her 8th row tickets to see them last tuesday night at Pine Knob Music Theater near Detroit.. I'm sitting in the seat before the opening band comes out to do a sound check...& I hear the COMPLETE Kraftwerk albums "Radio-Activity" & "The Man Machine" while the crowd is gathering! Well, I have to say.. For a Band I have very little interest in (Durna Duran), They put on a Great show..........But personally I would have rather have listend to the Kraftwerk Playing through the Pine Knob Sound System! When we arrived home, my wife was looking through some past articles on Duran Duran & found out that one of their biggest infulences in music was Kraftwerk. For a "POP" band I have to give them a little credit! Eric Knight AKA= ericknig@sprynet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: (kw) Eletric Cafe : Bartos & Flur Date: 15 Aug 1999 01:22:44 -0300 Hi! Does anyone knows the correct epoch what Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flur was go out from Kraftwerk and there was tour from Eletric Cafe? Does anyone knows these tour dates? Thanks... ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Pre-Concert music(At Duran Duran Show!) Date: 15 Aug 1999 01:45:19 -0300 Thank you Eric! About this news! I would like live in Detroit hehe : -) There ofte happen good shows! Duran Duran & Kraftwerk is my favorites bands!!! : -) By ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Pre-Concert music(At Duran Duran Show!) Date: 15 Aug 1999 01:47:52 -0300 Thank you Eric! About this news! I would like live in Detroit hehe : -) There ofte happen good shows! Duran Duran & Kraftwerk is my favorites bands!!! : -) By ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephenv@sirius.com (stephen vesecky) Subject: Re: (kw) Pre-Concert music(At Duran Duran Show!) Date: 06 Apr 1999 22:58:21 -0700 >Well, I have to say.. For a Band I have very little interest in (Durna >Duran), They put on a Great show..........But personally I would have >rather have listend to the Kraftwerk Playing through the Pine Knob Sound >System! Over the years, I have picked out a lot of sonic ideas that duran stole from kraftwerk, especially their first album. nick rhodes was a big kraftwerk fan (all the new romantics were). It's interesting that kraftwerk's sound could have a place in such a hyped band. maybe not that many people on this list like duran duran that much, but i always thought they made some good music, especially in the production. Stephen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 14 Aug 1999 22:29:21 -0700 Jen Krafton Jenny.. Did you see this? wrote: > Is there no limit to how low this man will stoop to pander for votes? > Truly despicable. > ======================================================= > UNPARDONABLE HYPOCRISY > > While the Clinton-Gore Administration furthers its attacks on > law-abiding gun owners, an editorial in the August 13 Wall Street > Journal exposed an egregious example of hypocrisy by Clinton. Against > the advice of the Justice Department, the FBI, and the U.S. Attorney's > Office, Clinton recently pardoned 16 Puerto Rican terrorists. This > hardly seems like the action of someone who claims to be concerned with > violent crime. Deputy White House Chief of Staff Maria Echavez attempted > to excuse the President's actions by claiming those offered clemency > "never killed anyone." However, the editorial goes on to point out that > the terrorist group to which these 16 individuals belonged was involved > in more than 100 > terrorist attacks on U.S. facilities, resulting in the death of many > innocent individuals. Additionally, one of the pardoned terrorists was > involved in the 1983 armed robbery of a Wells Fargo Bank in Hartford, > Conn., netting $7.5 million for the terrorist organization. "Even if > these 16 terrorists didn't murder anyone directly, they were part of a > conspiracy to kill, a conspiracy that was to be extended by the funds > stolen from the bank in Connecticut," the editorial states. But why > would Clinton pardon murderous terrorists? The only theory the Journal > offered was that it was an attempt to influence Puerto Rican voters in > New York to support Hillary Clinton's run for U.S. Senate in 2000. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL Subject: Re: Message Bounce: Re: (kw) Re: Date: 14 Aug 1999 22:41:32 -0700 APOLOGIES Somehow KRAFTon became KRAFTwerk.... > > > > Jen Krafton > > Jenny.. Did you see this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Komputer's Valentina Date: 15 Aug 1999 14:16:35 -0700 > Macromedia Director file made to promote the Komputer single "Valentina" and > album "The World Of Tomorrow" available at > http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/komputer/vir_val.htm That link is dead, and when I download the zip file, it uncompressess without an extension. I have tried swf and html, has anyone had success viewing this director file? Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Sprockets Date: 15 Aug 1999 18:20:10 -0700 If any of you are interested in seeing Mr. Meyers in a "serious" roll, I suggest 54. It's a film, in every meaning of the word. Bill > Jack Handey is a fictional character, otherwise his name would have been > included in the SNL credits. > > lenny g > > >>fxcordero@roadrunner.com wrote: > >>This may be our only opportunity to suggest to the > >>script writer [...] Jack Handey is listed as script writer.... > >>but somehow I believe it is Mike Myers. Does anyone > >>know Jack Handey? > > >AFAIK, Mike had already been paid for scripting "Sprockets". That takes Jack > >Handey out of the picture. > >Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "polbox" Subject: (kw) TDF ordering in germany Date: 16 Aug 1999 09:07:04 +0200 can someone give me the url where i can order TDF over the net in Germany? thnx tadream # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mm@UDel.Edu (Mike Markowski) Subject: (kw) Off-topic: Alta Vista translations...to the extreme! Date: 16 Aug 1999 11:02:11 -0400 Hey all, A bit off-topic, but... For the many on the list who use the Alta Vista translation page at "http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate?", it's quick and easy, but more than a little inaccurate at times. Someone has taken this to its logical conclusion at http://www.panix.com/~jdf/nph-babel.cgi Check it out for a laugh or two. Here's an example: "Kraftwerk has never composed music at a power plant." becomes "Available music of the duck of the power station never at a power station. " :-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Komputer's Valentina Date: 16 Aug 1999 10:20:52 -0700 If you want to take a peak at "Valentina's" REAL video, check out the AMP 2.0 Video archive at: http://www.mtv.com/mtv/music/amp/video_archive.html KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JonMalis@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Off-topic: Alta Vista translations...to the extreme! Date: 16 Aug 1999 13:57:23 EDT I just tried "Kraftwerk is a musical group who works in D=FCsseldorf at=20 Kling-Klang studio and has not released any music in 8 years." and it turned=20 into: "** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** energy energy energy energy station time time=20 time time time out its group, what in Duesseldorf at to d in music tone to=20 tone, tone and d tone page out out lets what run let let out out, what to=20 tone and and for tone to tone to tone to tone to tone to tone to tone to ton= e=20 to tone sounding sounding sounding sounding sounding sounding sounding=20 sounding kling-Klangstudio tone to tone to tone and none it, what tone again= ,=20 tone, tone music, what its releases in 8 year." Then, it said "I Give Up" after that. -Jon P.S. - I know they have released music since then (The new TdF CD, but I=20 thoght that this would work better) =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ted Cikowski" Subject: (kw) Another FAQ probably Date: 16 Aug 1999 14:39:37 -0400 Does Karl Bartos and Wolfgang Flur still talk to Kraftwerk? Does Karl and Wolfgang still talk to eachother? "mosquito" is a cool song. thanks, Ted # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Valery Kondakoff Subject: (kw) KW and Krawtwerk bike company Date: 16 Aug 1999 13:04:36 +0400 Hello, people at KW mail-list! This is an article from English mountain bike magazine "Maximum Mountain Bike" (march/april'99) "Tour de Farce They may not be making records anymore but German keyboard band Kraftwerk can still make a fuss - this time about a bike company using their name. Kraftwerk, who had hits with singles Autobahn, Tour de France and The Model, were notable for their distinctive identical nerd chic appearance, their portable electronic keyboards and bizarre robotic dance movements. The band has patents out on their name and has filed a claim against a bike company of the same name claiming trademark infringement. The bike company, now called Bergwerk, produces four high-end bikes for the German market from their base in Pforzheim - three in 7000 series aluminium and one carbon-fibre. The latter is a monocoque frame with a claimed weight of 2,4lbs. Rumours that the band will be fielding a downhill team next year dressed as lipstick-wearing accountants are unconfirmed." Best regards, Valery Kondakoff mailto:strauss@orc.ru http://www.nbk.orc.ru -- Moscow Rock-Club "NÅ âÅÊ ëÏÐÙÔÏÍ" Homepage http://www.nbk.orc.ru/mtb -- MTB riding in Moscow # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Valery Kondakoff Subject: (kw) KW and Krawtwerk bike company Date: 16 Aug 1999 13:04:36 +0400 Hello, people at KW mail-list! This is an article from English mountain bike magazine "Maximum Mountain Bike" (march/april'99) "Tour de Farce They may not be making records anymore but German keyboard band Kraftwerk can still make a fuss - this time about a bike company using their name. Kraftwerk, who had hits with singles Autobahn, Tour de France and The Model, were notable for their distinctive identical nerd chic appearance, their portable electronic keyboards and bizarre robotic dance movements. The band has patents out on their name and has filed a claim against a bike company of the same name claiming trademark infringement. The bike company, now called Bergwerk, produces four high-end bikes for the German market from their base in Pforzheim - three in 7000 series aluminium and one carbon-fibre. The latter is a monocoque frame with a claimed weight of 2,4lbs. Rumours that the band will be fielding a downhill team next year dressed as lipstick-wearing accountants are unconfirmed." Best regards, Valery Kondakoff mailto:strauss@orc.ru http://www.nbk.orc.ru -- Moscow Rock-Club "NÅ âÅÊ ëÏÐÙÔÏÍ" Homepage http://www.nbk.orc.ru/mtb -- MTB riding in Moscow # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Sprockets Date: 16 Aug 1999 16:32:52 -0700 >Bill wrote: >If any of you are interested in seeing Mr. Meyers in a "serious" >roll, I suggest 54. It's a film, in every meaning of the word. I prefer his "funny" roles, and this will be a good one. Mike as Dieter, a pretentious avant-garde German host, will come to the States, in order to solve the kidnapping of his beloved monkey Klaus. I'm laughing already. I can't wait... Dieter, my Kraftwerk-loving androgynous guy, please take it away!!! "Now is the time in Sprockets when we dance" KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) KW Interview Date: 17 Aug 1999 12:31:56 +1000 If anyone is interested: FANZINE AURAL INNOVATIONS #7 The July '99 edition of the world's best source for spacerock exploration see's the latest edition expand to 64 A4 size pages. This quarterly magazine just keeps improving with every edition and huge accolades must go to Jerry Kranitz and his dedicated 'to the cause' staff. This edition includes 10 band Profiles/Interviews (including Porcupine Tree & Kraftwerk among others), six feature articles that includes writeups about the various festivals held in the USA, a spacerock crossword puzzle, two label profiles, Live Recording reviews, concert reviews and release reviews plus a news section. If you want to be informed about spacerock & psychedelic then this fanzine is a must. This is available from: http://www.cranium.co.nz (somewhere) and possibly elsewhere.... :-) Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Qu'est-ce qu'une eclipse totale de Soleil? Date: 16 Aug 1999 23:20:01 -0700 How fantastic that we can closely analyze bodies within our solor system and yet don't have a complete map of our own ocean floor. Or perhaps we already have a vast underwater city created for some secret purpose. That would be the first, cheapest and least dangerous option than a lunar or mars base. Not that they might not exist either... If we had a world of underwater existance, would we get music like Kraftwerk, or music that reflects on a less terrestrial existance. Computer World is so human. So simple. It touches on the elegance of developement and dependancy of a new world. A dawning world-cultural awareness. One that has so much more to offer the next in terms of direction, it seems almost as if it were pre-determined. This leaves out the question of "are we what we consume" and counters with "I am what I see". My proposition is this: I believe that we will have a "Kraftwerk" recurring over and over with each resurgance of mass growth. Technology becomes less and less demanding while the consumer becomes much moreso. Our awareness must be cataloged. This is Kraftwerk. This is the man-machine. What will the next K be like? I really want to hear your responses. Also, I would like to have a link page of all of our newsies that make music, no matter how or why. Gimmie your websites to add. I'm excited to think that we could create a society of musicians and appriciators with such a variety of views on K. Bill Der Automat wrote: > > The last eclipse of the millenium is over... > During the total eclipse of the Sun on 11 August, the sky was dark and some > bright stars were easy to see. Avoiding your eyes for a moment from the > glories of the solar atmosphere, and you could glimpse the planet Mercury, a > newly fashionable target for space exploration. > > DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "polbox" Subject: (kw) warfield mp3 Date: 17 Aug 1999 08:44:34 +0200 to the author of the warfield mp3: in 'Intro/Numbers' at 1:49th second there's a small delay in the recording. i just wanna find out whether this is only on my file or it was there originally... thnx tadream # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Subject: (kw) Bartos at Popkomm Date: 17 Aug 1999 09:56:37 +0200 Tomasz KIRMUC 17-08-99 09:56 AM Yesterday in Viva and Viva 2 I saw annoucements regarding Karl Bartos's appearance at Kickzone 99 (I'm not sure about the title...) concert during forthcoming Popkomm. Does anybody know something more (Klaus Schulze was also mentioned)? Tomasz Kirmuc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Autobahn video Date: 17 Aug 1999 10:29:19 +0100 Any Kraftwerk fans in the north of England might be interested in the recently re-opened National Museum of Film and Television in Bradford........there is an Animation section which includes some original gells from the Autobahn video - the guy who made it also did something called "Carmageddon 2000" of which there are also exhibits. The museum is worth a visit purely for the IMAX cinema which now shows 3D movies - and is absolutely amazing. All we need now is Kraftwerk to do a 3D IMAX film and we could all take the place over. Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) TDF ordering in germany Date: 17 Aug 1999 11:50:13 +0200 On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:07:04 +0200, polbox wrote: > >can someone give me the url where i can order TDF over the net in Germany? >thnx www.bigbag.de can have it, but I still don't have received it yet. I ordered it first at CDZone, but they failed to provide the CD within one month so I canceled my order there and made it at Bigbag. Good luck. Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) Expo Jingle Multi-Media Track Date: 17 Aug 1999 06:48:45 +0000 hello, to anyone who has obtained an EXPO 2000 Jinge CD: if you look on the bottom of the CD it looks like there is a multi-media track there. i tried accessing it on several computers and had no luck. if you don't know, a CD holds 74 minutes, and is burned from the inside out. since the jingle is only :31 seconds it occupies a very tiny portion of the CD. on the jingle cd more than half of the writable surface is used (has data burned on to it). this suggests a multimedia track. has anyone had any luck accessing it. also, as i asked before: someone, i beleive Klaus Zaepke mentioned a longer, musical version of the jingle to be released. has anyone any news on that. thank you, lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Pre-Concert music(At Duran Duran Show!) Date: 17 Aug 1999 12:47:28 +0200 Eric Knight wrote: > I hear the COMPLETE Kraftwerk albums "Radio-Activity" & "The Man >Machine" while the crowd is gathering! >When we arrived home, my wife was looking through some past articles on >Duran Duran & found out that one of their biggest infulences in music was >Kraftwerk. Stephen Vesecky wrote: >nick rhodes was a big kraftwerk fan (all the new romantics were). Quoted from http://www.musicblvd.com/: <> Apparently morever there is an elusive promo 12" containing; Side one: Duran Duran: Planet Earth (Night Version) (6.18) / Planet Earth (4.02), Side Two: Kraftwerk: Dentaku (4.35) / Pocket Calculator (4.35). Toshiba-EMI PRP-8179, [1981]. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE (kw) Expo 2000 Auction Date: 17 Aug 1999 08:37:56 -0700 Update from: http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/aktuell/index_ak_auktion.html "The auction of the Expo-Jingle CD has ended on Tuesday, 17th August 1999 at 3.00 pm (CET). Mr Matsumoto from Japan stated the highest bid. His bid was DM 1540,-. The next online auction will start Wednesday, 18th August 1999 at 3.00 pm (CET)" I sure hope he enjoys those very expensive pictures... KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Expo Jingle Multi-Media Track Date: 17 Aug 1999 11:17:00 -0600 (MDT) On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, 47 wrote: > only :31 seconds it occupies a very tiny portion of the CD. on the jingle > cd more than half of the writable surface is used (has data burned on to > it). this suggests a multimedia track. has anyone had any luck accessing Just a thought, but perhaps it's in Kodak Photo-CD format. The disk was supposed to contain some pictures, was it not? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * Microsoft software: It may bloated, but at least it's slow. */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nat Heidler" Subject: (kw) Into and a few questions.... Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:44:25 -0500 Hello, I recently re-joined the KW mailling list after a long absence, it's good to be back. I remember in 98 that KW talked of doing a world tour in 99 - but I have not been able to find any info on this. Does anyone have any info on this? Also, I've been seeing various KW re-mix CDs on Ebay and such, anyone have a reccomendation on what if any of these are the best or what to avoid. As much as I love KW, I don't think I'll be buying a lot of CDs at $50+. Kling-Klang, Nat Heidler Network Systems Administrator www.archerps.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Electric Music Official site Date: 18 Aug 1999 12:39:23 -0700 Its finally here! http://www.spv.de/choose_frames.html They have a pretty nice navigator bar, with a couple of Real audio files, discography info, a forum, some KB info, and six really cool pictures of him hanging around the Studio. I recommend it, of course, only if you're one of the few Bartos fans we have in this list ;-) KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Off-topic: Alta Vista translations...to the extreme! Date: 18 Aug 1999 01:08:02 +0200 At 13.57 16/08/99 -0400, JonMalis@aol.com wrote: > >I just tried "Kraftwerk is a musical group who works in D=FCsseldorf at=20 >Kling-Klang studio and has not released any music in 8 years." and it= turned=20 >into: > >"** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** energy energy energy energy station time= time=20 >time time time out its group, what in Duesseldorf at to d in music tone to= =20 >tone, tone and d tone page out out lets what run let let out out, what to= =20 >tone and and for tone to tone to tone to tone to tone to tone to tone to= tone=20 >to tone sounding sounding sounding sounding sounding sounding sounding=20 >sounding kling-Klangstudio tone to tone to tone and none it, what tone= again,=20 >tone, tone music, what its releases in 8 year." >-Jon This could be the text of a new KW song..... Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) `98 VIDEO Date: 19 Aug 1999 07:06:33 -0300 Dear "werkers"; I have news for all. This week, I made a Compilation VIDEO, with KRAFTWERK playing in Brasil and Japan !! The `98 Tour. The videotape includes the songs : "Tribal", "Trans-Europe Express" (Kraft made a mistake !) " Musique Non Stop" and "The Robots" and more: a little interview with Florian Schneider (Well, he made short answers, like a "robot", but, for me this is a true treasure... Ah ! The compilation includes, too, a old version of "The Robots" (1978) with Karl & Wolfgang in action ! Want more ?? Well, how about excerpts from germany program, with Kraftwerk in airport ?? If interested, please, contact me privately. Eduardo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Holton Subject: (kw) Further help required Date: 19 Aug 1999 11:19:05 +0100 >Subject: (kw) Electric Music Official site >Its finally here! >http://www.spv.de/choose_frames.html >They have a pretty nice navigator bar, with a couple of Real audio files, >discography info, a forum, some KB info, and six really cool pictures of him >hanging around the Studio. I recommend it, of course, only if you're one of >the few Bartos fans we have in this list ;-) >KW4EVER! E>nrique He's looking good isn't he!!! Call on Me and Sunshine could not be played by realaudio (God knows why) Anyone know where I can get mpegs or wav files or real audio (whatever) of these two songs? Cheers Dave Holton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MERSEYCHAM@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Qu'est-ce qu'une eclipse totale de Soleil? Date: 19 Aug 1999 07:12:55 EDT Nice idea about Atlantis. Kraftwerk appear there tonight. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) New Uk Release Date: 19 Aug 1999 08:37:14 -0700 I wrote to Martin Nutley from EMI UK in regards to the *new* UK release being advertised on several net stores that was due to come out by 08/03, and this is what I got back from him: >Enrique - thank you for your message. >To the best of my knowledge this new Kraftwerk release is NOT from EMI >Records UK in the United Kingdom! We do not own or control Kraftwerk >and have only issued their recordings in the past under a licensing >arrangement...and so, the item in question could be from any other UK >record company! >Regards, Martin Nutley, UK Consumer Information, >EMI Records UK, Brook Green - London Does anybody have any info on those UK releases? IMHO I think they are LTD edition releases of "KW1", "KW2" and "Ralf & Florian". That would probably explain why EMI UK doesn't know anything about them. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Happy B'day, RALF ! Date: 19 Aug 1999 11:43:06 -0700 Ralf Hutter was born in Krefeld, August the 20th of 1946.=20 Alles gut zum Geburtstag, happy birthday, joyeux anniversaire, feliz cumplea=F1os, felice compleanno, Ralphie boy!=20 KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) Happy B'day, RALF ! Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:49:25 -0400 ] Ralf Hutter was born in Krefeld, August the 20th of 1946. ] Alles gut zum Geburtstag, happy birthday, joyeux anniversaire, feliz ] cumplea=F1os, felice compleanno, Ralphie boy! ] KW4EVER! ] Enrique hey! its not the 20:th in germany yet :/ i have a mail going out CET 00:00 to the list hehe :) owell. i might just pop it out here now. -- ralf h=FCtter: 08/20/46 alles gut zum geburtstag, ralf! in ralfs honer, ill be streaming kraftwerk 00:00-23:59 at; http://www.wettin.com:1720 karl\ 5038282 karl@wettin.com http://www.wettin.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Further help required Date: 19 Aug 1999 22:47:50 +0200 On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:19:05 +0100, David Holton wrote: >Call on Me and Sunshine could not be played by realaudio (God knows why) >Anyone know where I can get mpegs or wav files or real audio (whatever) of >these two songs? Just buy the CD and you will have ten more great Electric Music songs on it . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Pre-Concert music(At Duran Duran Show!) Date: 19 Aug 1999 22:46:27 -0300 Is interesting! I'm treaty with you Der! I like fan from Kraftwerk and Duran Duran have opinion what Nick Rhodes was a true Kraftwerk Fan. I already did have questions about this thing! I remember one music from Duran Duran called (Can't you deal with it) from the album Libert. In the start from the music apears keyboard soil created by Nick similar from the melodys of Kraftwerk! :-) ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Happy B'day, RALF ! Date: 19 Aug 1999 22:53:14 -0300 RALF HÜTTER BIRTHDAY!!!!! : - ))))))))))) Happy B'day to you also Ralf!!! Desire your BIG brazilian fan ... ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Pre-Concert music(At Duran Duran Show!) Duran & Kraftwerk Date: 19 Aug 1999 23:03:41 -0300 I don't compared! I only said what the introduction of one music from Duran Duran is little similar ok? Good Understanded? ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Stagno Subject: (kw) Rahzel's Numbers Date: 19 Aug 1999 21:49:26 -0600 On Rahzel's new CD Make the Music 2000, which is fantastic by the way, on the hidden track, he does a tiny version numbers. Those of you unfamiliar with Razhel, he's part of the Roots and is a human sound effect generator. Just hearing The Godfather of Noise perform a tiny bit of Numbers not by synth but by his own mouth is pretty damn cool. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) A few questions Date: 20 Aug 1999 07:48:59 -0400 A couple of questions...hope I don't sound TOO stupid... 1) What exactly is a sequencer, what does it do? Can someone give me an example of where KW used one? 2) What is the prominent instrument in the song Milk Rock (Orginisation)? I've been trying to figure that one out.. Huggy Bear (not a musician) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: Carmageddon (was (kw) Autobahn video) Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:42:54 +0200 Paul Mills wrote: >Any Kraftwerk fans in the north of England might be interested in the >recently re-opened National Museum of Film and Television in >Bradford........there is an Animation section which includes some original >gells from the Autobahn video - the guy who made it also did something >called "Carmageddon 2000" of which there are also exhibits. The museum is >worth a visit purely for the IMAX cinema which now shows 3D movies - and is >absolutely amazing. There is a PC game called Carmageddon which is a very intense game consisting of driving on various races where you have to run over the pedestrians you meet. Well, there's an opponent driver called Stig O'Sore who drives a car with the name Volkswerker. Another opponent driver, Heinz Faust, drives the 'Kingwerk' car. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) KW and Krawtwerk bike company Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:43:44 +0200 Valery Kondakoff wrote: >This is an article from English mountain bike magazine "Maximum >Mountain Bike" (march/april'99) >"Tour de Farce >They may not be making records anymore but German keyboard >band Kraftwerk can still make a fuss - this time about a bike company >using their name. >Kraftwerk, who had hits with singles Autobahn, Tour de France and The >Model, were notable for their distinctive identical nerd chic >appearance, their portable electronic keyboards and bizarre robotic >dance movements. The band has patents out on their name and has >filed a claim against a bike company of the same name claiming >trademark infringement. >The bike company, now called Bergwerk, produces four high-end bikes >for the German market from their base in Pforzheim - three in 7000 >series aluminium and one carbon-fibre. The latter is a monocoque frame >with a claimed weight of 2,4lbs. Rumours that the band will be >fielding a downhill team next year dressed as lipstick-wearing >accountants are unconfirmed." It was rumoured that Kraftwerk only give interviews to bike magazines! DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: RE: (kw) Happy B'day, RALF ! Date: 20 Aug 1999 10:30:09 -0300 Enrique Correa wrote: > Ralf Hutter was born in Krefeld, August the 20th of 1946. > Alles gut zum Geburtstag, happy birthday, joyeux anniversaire, feliz > cumplea=F1os, felice compleanno, Ralphie boy! Oh boy, Ralf it's his 53rd birthday!!! Damn. :-) Well, I wish you all the best. I'm your devoted crazy fan. A big kiss, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolfhardt.Wess@t-online.de (Weß) Subject: (kw) Happy Birthday Ralf ! Date: 20 Aug 1999 17:34:41 +0200 Alles Gute zum Geburtstag, Ralf ! Das wuensche ich Dir von ganzem Herzen. Gunnar P.S.: Lass mal wieder von Dir "hoeren" ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) RALF =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=DCTTER?= BIRTHDAY.... Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:43:01 -0300 Feliz Aniversario Ralf....estamos esperando o novo album.... ;-) Happy birthday Ralf....!!! Brazilian fan.... -- ===================================== Victor Miranda vmiranda@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vmiranda ===================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) `98 VIDEO Date: 20 Aug 1999 19:22:14 -0300 Dear "werkers"; I have news for all. I have a new Compilation VIDEO, with KRAFTWERK playing in Brasil and Japan !! The `98 Tour. The videotape includes the songs : "Tribal", "Trans-Europe Express" (Kraft made a mistake !) " Musique Non Stop" and "The Robots" and more: a little interview with Florian Schneider (Well, he made short answers, like a "robot", but, for me this is a true treasure... Ah ! The compilation includes, too, a old version of "The Robots" (1978) with Karl & Wolfgang in action ! Want more ?? Well, how about excerpts from germany program, with Kraftwerk in airport ?? If interested, please, contact me privately. Eduardo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) GARY NUMAN Date: 20 Aug 1999 20:52:37 -0300 Hi, "werkers". I`m looking for the video called "Touring Principle" (1979) By Gary Numan. In exchange, I can make copies of Kraftwerk`s concerts (Mix Tour - 91/92) and 1998 Tour. If you have these video, please, write me privately. Thanks. Eduardo Monteiro (from Brasil - Yes, here we love Kraftwerk very much !!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: (kw) elektro ala' karl. Date: 21 Aug 1999 02:09:17 -0400 http://www.wettin.com/cgi-bin/www.wettin.com/wettin.exe?action=23 new song. i felt like doing somehitng like the new kraftwerk songs, so i did. not sure if it resembels them atall, but it sounds ok, to me. karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leon Mols" Subject: Re: (kw) A few questions Date: 21 Aug 1999 08:31:28 +0200 A sequencer is a either a piece of hardware or software that does one thing: Play back a sequence of notes. In the old days (let's say 1970's) there were only hardware sequencers: Boxes with a number of knobs or sliders (16/32 or 48). What you could do was set these knobs or sliders to a specific value, each representing for example a note. What the sequencer does is send these values to a sound generator (or synthesizer) in a specific tempo you can also set. This results in a continuing playback of the same notes, over and over again (listed to the start of Europe Endless for example, you'll know what I mean). Later, the sequencer developed into something much more powerfull (still talking about hardware) where you could play notes on a keyboard, the seq would record these and would be able to play them back, over and over again. (You can compare it to a tape-recorder, but the seq does not record the actual sound, but only information: Note hight, length, volume etc....) Nowadays, most sequencers are software-based, but the principle is still the same, you play notes, and the sequencer plays them back. In a software sequencer you can record or program many tracks (like a multi-track recorder) and play them back all toghether. Popular software sequencers are: Cubase, Cakewalk, Logic. Popular hardware sequencers were made (in the old days) by Moog and ARP, there is a revival going on right now, Roland and Yamaha sell hardware step-sequencers, but a company like Doepfer still produces (take a look at http://www.doepfer.de/prod_e.htm and check out the "Regelwerk", "Schaltwerk" and "MAQ16/3"). You will also notice that the names Regelwerk and Schaltwerk probably remind you of Kraftwerk, and Yes, they not only use these machines, but both Ralf and Florian actually helped design them....). Regarding the second question: where does Kraftwerk use a sequencer: They use them all the time for anything from a simple synth line (like in Europe Endless or the Man Machine) to basslines, percussion, drums. actually, what I say at one of last years concerts, most of the time the KWers actually only trigger sequences to produce the songs, where the lead sounds are played live (by Ralf) and the sound effects and robotic voices are played by Florian. How do you think a song like "The Robots" is played live, with none of the members on stage??? That's a sequencer (or a whole bunch of sequencers)... Hope this helps, Leon (http://home.wxs.nl/~lmols) (using Cakewalk software sequencer and a Yamaha RM1x hardware sequencer to trigger and play sounds from several synthesizers, myself....) ----- Original Message ----- > 1) What exactly is a sequencer, what does it do? Can someone give me an > example of where KW used one? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) elektro ala' karl. Date: 21 Aug 1999 05:24:52 -0400 ] http://www.wettin.com/cgi-bin/www.wettin.com/wettin.exe?action=23 ] ] new song. i felt like doing somehitng like the new ] kraftwerk songs, so i did. not sure if it resembels ] them atall, but it sounds ok, to me. ] ] karl\ i see that alot of people have downloaded, but i havent got ant response what so ever? please let me know what you think of it. karl\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) Video by CDs Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:52:33 -0300 Dear "werkers". I have a new offer for all. If you want a Kraftwerk`s Video (The Mix Tour or `98 Tour) we can trade. I accept SWAP these videos by CDs , like Pink Floyd, Tangerine Dream, Gary Numan, Supertramp and others artists. Please, send me your list for trade. Thanks Eduardo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) KW 12" FS Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:22:53 EDT Hi. I want to sell the "new" 12" release of Home Computer and It's More Fun to Compute. The 12" is in brand new condition, I have an extra copy. It says on the label Klang DJ104, and it has an EMI logo on it, but it has to be a boot. It's yours for (US funds only) $10, plus $3 shipping to the USA and $5 to anywhere else. Cashier's Check, Money Order, or Register'd cash. Contact me off list. tom807@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: Re: (kw) A few questions Date: 22 Aug 1999 18:36:34 -0700 > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:48:59 -0400 > From: "Huggy Bear" > Subject: (kw) A few questions > > A couple of questions...hope I don't sound TOO stupid... > > 1) What exactly is a sequencer, what does it do? Can someone give me an > example of where KW used one? A sequencer is a device (or software) used to record and play back a musical performance. No audio is actually stored, only the data that will be required to recreate the music (i.e. note pitch, duration, velocity, aftertouch, and sometimes sound settings.) Using the "player piano" analogy, think of it as the device that would be used to stamp out the paper roll used to capture a pianist's performance. That paper roll (the sequencer data) can then be moved from piano to piano and provide the identical performance while allowing the actual "sound" of the performance to change. I don't believe its known when Kraftwerk first started using a sequencer, but it appears quite prominently in most of their work starting from at least the Trans Europe Express period. If you've ever seen them live, you'll hear much more music and complexity than might actually be physically possible from 4 musicians. The sequencer is in this case used to play back selected preprogrammed parts of a song while the 4 musicians manipulate the performance data and provide additional live accompaniment. If you need any more info, Bill, feel free to email me. > 2) What is the prominent instrument in the song Milk Rock (Orginisation)? > I've been trying to figure that one out.. If the liner notes are any indication, then this is the electric flute played by none other than Florian Schneider. And after listening to this song again, you've got to wonder what kind of chemical "motivation" these guys may have come in contact with to play this way! ;-) Kindest regards, -John // efofex - Get ready for "Stress!" http://efofex.simplenet.com Efofex - LIVE! http://efofex.simplenet.com/live1/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgang Fluer out now!!! Date: 23 Aug 1999 00:35:29 +0200 KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter Wolfgang Fl=FCr Preis: DM 35,00 (EUR 17,90) Verf=FCgbarkeit: Dieser Titel kann in der Regel in 2 bis 3 Werktagen versandt werden. Taschenbuch - 304 Seiten (1999)=20 Hannibal Vlg., Wien; ISBN: 3854451733 A friend of mine was at this weekend's Popkomm Festival in Cologne. He told me on the phone that there was a book release party for the above book. He has got a signed copy. Apparently it features some interesting photos from Wolfgangs private collection.... The above info is from the www.amazon.de website, it says its can be delivered within 2-3 days within Germany... So everybody time to brush up on your German! Order now.. Tschuess from Switzerland Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Sequencer questions/answers Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:50:26 -0500 >a company like Doepfer still >produces (take a look at http://www.doepfer.de/prod_e.htm and check out the >"Regelwerk", "Schaltwerk" and "MAQ16/3"). >You will also notice that the names Regelwerk and Schaltwerk probably >remind you of Kraftwerk, and Yes, they not only use these machines, but >both Ralf and Florian actually helped design them....). Just for information, my Europe Endless cover versions did indeed utilize the Doepfer Regalwerk as a major control piece. I also regularly use the Maq16/3 on various newer songs.. These are 2 units that Kraftwerk actually uses/co-designed. I find the German manufacturers: Quasimidi, Doepfer, seem to really be some of the groundbreaking companies for electronic music hardware. That is just my opinion, I don't want to start any debates. But we do know that Kraftwerk uses gear made by these companies. ;-) You can hear its "work" (Doepfer Maq16/3) on a newer experimental song on http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux/ entitled "Bubbles".. While most users prefer the computer software sequencers, I still like to work with the physical, as there is nothing quite like the personality of knobs, sliders, and physical interaction thereof. Hope this helps on that question previously of sequencers. Regards, Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Der Maschinemensch Date: 23 Aug 1999 22:38:50 +0100 Hi all, I've just picked up a new 1999 CD with the title shown in the subject of this mail. It's basically a DJ remix and cut up album with a 47 minute mix various KW pieces, a 10 minute mix of Electric Cafe numbers and Michael Jackson (Ironic for those familiar with the Pascal Bussy tome), a 5 minute mix of the Robots and Numbers, 7 minute alternative Robots mix and a 6 minute Kraftwerk v Contraste (who I know nothing about) It's all remixed by DJ 7Up, packaged in a digipack with some interesting photos and is jolly good. Purchased from Sister Ray in London who had quite a few other boots worth investigating. I can't remember the URL but try a search on sisterray if you're interested-they sell online. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgan Date: 23 Aug 1999 23:40:41 +0000 > KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter > Wolfgang Fl=FCr > Taschenbuch - 304 Seiten (1999) > Hannibal Vlg., Wien; ISBN: 3854451733 > A friend of mine was at this weekend's Popkomm Festival in Cologne. He > told me on the phone that there was a book release party for the above > book. He has got a signed copy. Apparently it features some interesting > photos from Wolfgangs private collection.... Some of these photos are online at http://www.fluxgold.de/kraftwerk.html, by the way. And the September issue of Musikexpress features some excerpts from the book, plus a new interview with Wolfgang Fluer. > The above info is from the www.amazon.de website, it says its can be > delivered within 2-3 days within Germany... > So everybody time to brush up on your German! Order now.. The book can be also ordered directly from the publisher: http://www.hannibal-verlag.de/novis/kraftwerk.htm. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "The Young Urban Professional" Single Date: 23 Aug 1999 23:40:40 +0000 There is a new Karl Bartos / Electric Music CD single out: "The Young Urban Professional", MBA Records (UK), SOUND 9004 Tracklisting: 1. The Young Urban Professional 2. Sunshine (Radio Mix) 3. Sunshine (Electro Mix) The cover motive is identical to the "Call On Me" single cover. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Doepfer (was: Re: (kw) A few questions) Date: 23 Aug 1999 23:40:40 +0000 > Yamaha sell hardware step-sequencers, but a company like Doepfer still > produces (take a look at http://www.doepfer.de/prod_e.htm and check out the > "Regelwerk", "Schaltwerk" and "MAQ16/3"). > You will also notice that the names Regelwerk and Schaltwerk probably remind > you of Kraftwerk, and Yes, they not only use these machines, but both Ralf > and Florian actually helped design them....). Is there any proof that they really helped to design the Regelwerk and the Schaltwerk? Doepfer himself credits them only for the MAQ 16/3, as far as I know. > How do you think a song like "The Robots" is played live, with none of the > members on stage??? That's a sequencer (or a whole bunch of sequencers)... Or a tape? ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Bartos at Popkomm Date: 23 Aug 1999 23:40:40 +0000 > Yesterday in Viva and Viva 2 I saw annoucements regarding Karl Bartos's > appearance at Kickzone 99 (I'm not sure about the title...) concert during > forthcoming Popkomm. The Popkomm did a live Realaudio / Realvideo broadcast of the event. I think it's still accessible at http://www.boxman.com/germany/hotbox/the_stream/kickzone/ kickzone.html. And there's a Karl Bartos offstage foto at http://express.de/koeln/8.html. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBot Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Date: 24 Aug 1999 00:03:42 +0200 I just saw the picture with Ralf & Florian under a shower... ( http://www.fluxgold.de/kw24.jpg ) A Swedish cartoonwriter/artist named "John Andersson" have written a story called "The Schneidershower".. "Schneiderduschen" in Swedish. He have voices in his head and sees strange stuff that he paints and writes stories about.. This was just too much!!! Roboten aka Martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgang Date: 23 Aug 1999 15:20:41 -0700 >Roboten aka Martin wrote: >I just saw the picture with Ralf & Florian under a shower... ( Those two having a good time are actually Wolfgang & Florian. KW4EVER! Enrique np: "From Here to Eternity" Giorgio Moroder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nowhere000@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgan Date: 23 Aug 1999 18:23:58 EDT http://www.fluxgold.de/kw24.jpg wait where is this pic from? and who are those two people? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) "The Young Urban Professional" Single Date: 24 Aug 1999 10:41:25 +1000 > There is a new Karl Bartos / Electric Music CD single out: > "The Young Urban Professional", MBA Records (UK), SOUND 9004 > > Tracklisting: > 1. The Young Urban Professional > 2. Sunshine (Radio Mix) > 3. Sunshine (Electro Mix) Are there any mp3 or ra to listen to? Is it still just guitar stuff like the previous one? :-) Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgan Date: 24 Aug 1999 00:40:39 -0300 On 23 Aug 99 at 15:20, Enrique Correa wrote: >Those two having a good time are actually Wolfgang & Florian. Well, Enrique you said all!!!! God damn it... how and why this picture exist? Oh my!!!!! :-| Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book byWolfgan Date: 23 Aug 1999 23:19:27 -0700 Beautiful. I wonder if this was taken after a one of their bike rides? The natural surroundings and the carefree looks lend to the idea that they are NOT werkers at that particular time. Bill RoBot wrote: > > I just saw the picture with Ralf & Florian under a shower... ( > http://www.fluxgold.de/kw24.jpg ) > A Swedish cartoonwriter/artist named "John Andersson" have written a story > called "The Schneidershower".. "Schneiderduschen" in Swedish. He have > voices in his head and sees strange stuff that he paints and writes stories > about.. This was just too much!!! > > Roboten aka Martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgan Date: 24 Aug 1999 10:13:21 +0200 >Some of these photos are online at = http://www.fluxgold.de/kraftwerk.html I just saw a funny little mistake at the site: The picture "ralf = h=FCtter in amerika" is called florian.jpg ... /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPH_MARQUARDT@HP-Germany-om9.om.hp.com Subject: (kw) Ich war kein Roboter Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:29:47 +0200 Thought you might want to know: I've just received an email notice from amazon that they have sent out m= y =20 order of Wolfgang Fl=FCr's Book 'Ich war kein Roboter' (ISBN: 3854451733= ).. =20 I'm really really looking forward to reading it.. should arrive tomorrow= =2E. =20 Regards, Chris =2D- =20 "Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatemen= t" - How to Write Good #= 23 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Of topic:Barcelona Recordstores? Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:37:19 +0200 Me and my wife are going for holidays in Barcelona,=20= does anybody know any good recordstores I should pay a visit to? Please reply privately! Sorry for the OT! Regards/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Quasimidi / Doepfer (was RE: (kw) Sequencer questions&answers / A few questions) Date: 24 Aug 1999 18:14:52 +0200 Huggy Bear wrote: >A couple of questions...hope I don't sound TOO stupid... The only stupid question is the one that is not asked. Leon Mols wrote: >You will also notice that the names Regelwerk and Schaltwerk probably remind >you of Kraftwerk, and Yes, they not only use these machines, but both Ra= lf >and Florian actually helped design them....). Kevin Lux wrote: >Just for information, my Europe Endless cover versions did indeed utiliz= e >the Doepfer Regalwerk as a major control piece. I also regularly use th= e >Maq16/3 on various newer songs.. These are 2 units that Kraftwerk actua= lly >uses/co-designed. I find the German manufacturers: Quasimidi, Doepfer, seem >to really be some of the groundbreaking companies for electronic music >hardware. Adverts for the Quasimidi Quasar sound module mention that a "well-known synthesizer band from D=FCsseldorf" use the Quasar because of its analogu= e sound and that small close-up photo from a Kling Klang studio with two Quasars installed was also published. A demo CD to promote the Quasar is = as well available which contains a track called "Die Zensur (D=FCsseldorf Mi= x)" which is based on a sample from "It's More Fun To Compute". It also exist= s a vocoder called Quasimidi Sirius which have two synth-sounds named "kraftw= er" and "calculat". The vocoder has a preset programme called "Robot Voc". Quasimidi Polymorph does indeed have several "interesting" patterns ie: Kraftwerk, Endlos, and Model built in, as well as sounds. Quasimidi is a German company. KRAFTWERK have been involved to some extent in the design of an Analogue/MIDI Sequencer, the MAQ 16/3 by Doepfer, in which press anouncem= ent it's can read "designed in cooperation with the German band Kraftwerk". T= he Company were responsible for the construction of Ralf's mini keyboard, as used during the live renditions of "Pocket Calculator", and other items, amongst which is a MOGLI MIDI glove, which was debuted by the band at the Linz concert. It can be added that the German music press reports that th= ere has been some futher, though undetailed, KRAFTWERK involvement in another new Doepfer instrument, el MS 404. As well as a short favourable review o= n page 45 of the magazine, Florian Schneider has also contributed a recordi= ng made with the equipment which is featured on the CD that accompanies the magazine. The "vocoder poem" tone itself is rather lyrical and easily comparable to the style you would find on the "Radioactivity" LP. The musical production from the Doepfer A-100 Modular demonstration CD was do= ne by Anreas Merz at Weltklang. The CD (which is no longer available from Doepfer) and permission to post the audio in MP3 format was provided courtesy of Doug at Enport (Doepfer USA), http://efofex.simplenet.com/noise/backstudio/a100. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) Home Computer Date: 24 Aug 1999 15:39:57 EDT Well I just got back from NY, and my favorite record store Other Music. I was shopping there when I spotted the 12" of Home Computer/It's More Fun to Compute, and couldn't resist a Kraftwerk record I didn't have. I thought it was probably a new mix. Turns out I should have resisted, it's material straight from the Computer World album, just in 12" format. Well, I'm sure there must be complete-ists out there who would want this, so contact me off list and I'll sell it to you cheap. I paid $13.99 US. Tom tom807@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgang Date: 24 Aug 1999 16:31:33 -0700 >Priscila Morsoletto wrote: >Well, Enrique you said all!!!! God damn it... how and why this picture >exist? Oh my!!!!! :-| The so called "Golden Shower" picture was taken from Wolfgang's new book: "Kraftwerk... Ich war ein Roboter" (Kraftwerk... I was a robot). The book shows pictures from WF's private collection, and consists of 320 pages, with 300 b/w pictures and 16 pages in color. I can't wait to put my hands on one of them. Thank you in advance, Mr. Wolfgang Flur for satisfying my endless greedy craving for Kraftwerk related stuff. KW4EVER! Enrique. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter//New KW book by Wolfgang Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:47:26 EDT Does anyone know if an English translation/version of this book is going to come out?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: (kw) Juan Atkins Date: 25 Aug 1999 00:42:22 EDT Hey check it out- MTV's AMP web page has Juan Atkins playing "It's More Fun To Compute"!! It's good stuff!!! http://www.mtv.com/mtv/realmedia/playra.cgi?/mtv/realmedia/amp/atkins.rm -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: (kw) Ich war kein Roboter!!!! Date: 25 Aug 1999 10:03:48 +0200 Enrique wrote: >The so called "Golden Shower" picture was taken from Wolfgang's new book: >"Kraftwerk... Ich war ein Roboter" (Kraftwerk... I was a robot). The book >shows pictures from WF's private collection, and consists of 320 pages, wit= h >300 b/w pictures and 16 pages in color. Well, the title is "Ich war kein Roboter" and that means "I was not a Robot"!!! There is a certain difference... and it is not a photo book only with pictures. It should arrive in my mail any day now and I am really looking forward to it. =46redrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: "Ich war ein Roboter" (was: Re: (kw) Ich war kein Roboter!!!!) Date: 25 Aug 1999 10:11:34 +0000 > >The so called "Golden Shower" picture was taken from Wolfgang's new book: > >"Kraftwerk... Ich war ein Roboter" (Kraftwerk... I was a robot). > > Well, the title is "Ich war kein Roboter" and that means "I was not a > Robot"!!! No, the title is "Ich war ein Roboter", and that means indeed "I was a robot". Just check the book cover. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: AW: "Ich war ein Roboter" (was: Re: (kw) Ich war kein Robote Date: 25 Aug 1999 11:27:16 +0000 > > > Well, the title is "Ich war kein Roboter" and that means "I > > > was not a Robot"!!! > > > > No, the title is "Ich war ein Roboter", and that means indeed "I was > > a robot". Just check the book cover. > > LIBRI the biggest German Book Distributor says: > Ich war kein Roboter. And the book says "Ich war ein Roboter". Just check the cover. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: (kw) New CD @ Tower Records? Date: 25 Aug 1999 11:39:18 +0200 There is a "new" KW album available @ Tower Records Europe: http://www.towereurope.com/scripts/runisa.dll?tower.65842:ARTICLESEARCH:216222178: ] Title: New ] Artist: Kraftwerk/IMPORT-UK/LMTD ED. ] Release Date: 03.08.99 ] Availability: ] Europe 4-10 days ] US 3-7 days ] World 5-14 days Does anyboby know anything about this? Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Duran Duran Again Date: 24 Aug 1999 22:06:38 +0200 Hi all, I am now listening Decade, by Duran Duran. Don't you find that "All she wants is" from 0:12 to 0:20 is very similar to the intro of Tour de France? Regards, Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Vocoder Date: 24 Aug 1999 22:15:52 +0200 Hi all. I must buy a new synth for myself, but the choice is very arduous. The only sure thing is that it must have a built-in VOCODER. I first wanted to buy the Clavia Nord Modular keyboard version, but here in Milan it's very expensive (in DM about 3.300), so I don't know if I will buy it or not. Now I'm very curious about the Novation Nova; it has a 40-bands vocoder, but I don't know anything about other things (Sequencer? nice voices? Price?.....). Could anyone help me in this hard choice with info about Nova or other synths with vocoder (quasimidi sirius, doepfer, roland jp8080, ....)??? I listened Clavia's one and it was amazing, less the JP8080. Mail me privately, thank you. Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: (kw) Kein und ein Date: 25 Aug 1999 14:52:14 +0200 Well, if the cover says "ein Roboter" I suppose that is correct. Strange that Amazon and other big book dealers should state it is "kein Roboter". If you have the book Klaus, could you tell us your first impressions of the contents? I am still waiting for my copy. =46redrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) RE: Doepfer / Quasimidi Date: 25 Aug 1999 14:57:45 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >Is there any proof that they really helped to design the Regelwerk >and the Schaltwerk? Doepfer himself credits them only for the MAQ >16/3, as far as I know. Quoted from Aktivitaet Update number 7 (vol. 2) March 1998 and Future Music magazine num.17 (Spanish editing). And apparently according to it this was printed in Doepfer's website. "According to Doepfer it seems KW have assistanced to develop one modular sinthesizers and analogic sequencers from Doepfer. The band uses the modular system A100, MAQ 16/3, MMR4/4, Schaltwerk, Regelwerk, master keyboards Sonderversionen master keyboards (modifizierte LMK2 mit 61 Fasten) and Sonderanfertigung (or Donderanfertigung) minikeyboards (during "Poket Calculator"). All of them used during the 1998 tour." There's an apparent incoherence in the meaning of the names Sonderversionen and Sonderanfertigung for a synthesizer. Since Sonderversionen means "special versions" and Sonderanfertigung means "custom-built". The German company Quasimidi stated in one of their latest brochures that KW are using their Rave-O-lution 309 module in their concerts. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Duran Duran Again Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:05:01 +0200 Didi >Hi all, Didi >I am now listening Decade, by Duran Duran. Didi >Don't you find that "All she wants is" from 0:12 to 0:20 is very similar to Didi >the intro of Tour de France? Well, Nick Rhodes & Simon Le Bon declared that Duran Duran aimed to be "a cross-over between Kraftwerk and Chic" BTW the whole rhythm pattern of "All she wants is" is very similar to "Numbers", too :-) Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) I was not a robot Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:32:33 +0200 The title of the Wolfgang Fluer's book is "KRAFTWERK _ ich war ein roboter" or "KRAFTWERK _ ich war kein roboter"? That's to say "I was not a robot" or "I was a robot"? Talking about this, I wonder why Fluer has chose the name of KRAFTWERK for his book, since he isn't already in the German band, and due to all the critics he has said about Die Mensch Maschine. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Photo Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:47:48 +0200 From what place is this photo? http://www.fluxgold.de/kr_news.html DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Doepfer Date: 25 Aug 1999 16:11:36 +0000 "Der Automat" wrote: > >Is there any proof that they really helped to design the Regelwerk > >and the Schaltwerk? Doepfer himself credits them only for the MAQ > >16/3, as far as I know. > > Quoted from Aktivitaet Update number 7 (vol. 2) March 1998 and Future Music > magazine num.17 (Spanish editing). [Snip] Yes, we all know that from the FAQ file, but it doesn't answer my question.... :-) > Sonderanfertigung (or Donderanfertigung) Sonderanfertigung. > There's an apparent incoherence in the meaning of the names > Sonderversionen and Sonderanfertigung for a synthesizer. These are not names for a synthesizer, these are just German words. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kein und ein Date: 25 Aug 1999 16:11:36 +0000 > Well, if the cover says "ein Roboter" I suppose that is correct. Strange > that Amazon and other big book dealers should state it is "kein Roboter". It appears that "kein" was a working title, that was changed to "ein" for whatever reason. The publisher's catalogue also lists the book as "kein", by the way... > If you have the book Klaus, could you tell us your first impressions of the > contents? It's a very personal book, not so much a precise documentation of Kraftwerk's history as a description of their personalities, including some very private details. As such, it is a very interesting addition to Pascal Bussy's more objective approach. I don't have the time for a detailed review, sorry. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ward" Subject: (kw) Chris Rock Date: 24 Aug 1999 10:23:52 -0400 Hi For those of you familiar with the American comedian Chris Rock, there is a sample on his new CD of "It's More Fun to Compute" on the track "Table Dance". Also, a vocoder is used heavily on one track. Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) Vocoder Date: 25 Aug 1999 11:38:15 -0400 ] Could anyone help me in this hard choice with info about Nova or other ] synths with vocoder (quasimidi sirius, doepfer, roland jp8080, ....)??? ] I listened Clavia's one and it was amazing, less the JP8080. Korg Wavestation A/D. superfat. apx. $700. karl\ 5038282 karl@wettin.com http://www.wettin.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Juan Atkins Date: 25 Aug 1999 09:25:19 -0700 >ericg wrote: >Hey check it out- MTV's AMP web page has Juan Atkins >playing "It's More Fun To Compute"!! It's good stuff!!! Speaking of Juan Atknis; this was taken from MTV's AMP archives: "Juan Atkins is revered as the godfather of techno"..."the origins of techno can be traced to the musical experiments of Detroit teenagers Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, and Juan Atkins"..."The soul in the machine: That's what Detroit teens Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson were looking for when they invented electro". So I guess for the "godfather" should be a piece of cake to play a song from some of his "godsons"... I know for a fact that Juan Atkins himself is very passionate about Kraftwerk and the influence was indeed all the way around, so I'd like to believe that whoever writes for AMP, is a bit confused with the true genealogy of techno. KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Bartos at Popkomm Date: 25 Aug 1999 18:25:27 +0000 > From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com > > Yesterday in Viva and Viva 2 I saw annoucements regarding Karl > Bartos's appearance at Kickzone 99 (I'm not sure about the title...) > concert during forthcoming Popkomm. Does anybody know something more German TV (WDR) showed a *very* brief excerpt from the show. It appears that Bartos played a techno set, nothing similar to his last album. > From: "Klaus Zaepke" > > The Popkomm did a live Realaudio / Realvideo broadcast of the event. > I think it's still accessible at > http://www.boxman.com/germany/hotbox/the_stream/kickzone/kickzone.html. Okay, apparently it's no longer online. Did anyone listen to it while it still was, or is there a mirror site somewhere? I'm also interested in a tape from the Bartos appearance. I could offer Kraftwerk live material in return. Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk merchandise Date: 25 Aug 1999 18:25:27 +0000 The Klingklang Konsumprodukt GmbH has some new Kraftwerk merchandise at www.ticketworld.de: 1) Trikot Tour de France (Size S, M, L): DM 60,00 2) Set Tour de France (Mousepad and Trikot (Size S, M, L): DM 70,00 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: (kw) Juan Atkins Date: 25 Aug 1999 13:09:00 EDT >I'd like to believe that whoever writes for AMP, is a bit confused with >the true genealogy of techno. I've noticed that MTV often describes DJs and other techno people as having "grown up on German techno" which seems to be the code phrase for being a Kraftwerk fan. I guess they figure not enough of their viewers have heard of KW. Every once and a while they mention KW though. Here's sme excerpts from MTV Online: "There's no one in the current electronic movement that hasn't been influenced by this group of pioneering Germans -- they're the godfathers of space age-y blips and a deliberately dehumanized persona." "KRAFTWERK is a serious musical pioneer that seldom receives their due credit." "Every genre needs some icons, and Kraftwerk certainly qualifies, adding a sense of history to techno." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Re: "Ich war ein Roboter" Date: 25 Aug 1999 11:11:35 -0700 Now that we all know what the real title is, here is an exclusive of which ones were some of the working titles that didn't made it to Wolfgang's cover... "Under one pillow with the robots" "From the robots to a human" "Kraftwerk transformed" "I was a robot and shared a shower with Florian" "I am not a robot anymore, I am a mosquito now" "I was not a robot, nor an interior designer, I was only a damn good drummer" "Emil and me built the first electronic drum-pad in 73" "I was a vegetarian robot, and here are some of my best recipes" "I had nothing to do with The Mix, I swear" "I took a lot of pictures while I was in Kraftwerk, wanna c some?" "Nice cover, isn't?" "It's more fun to Yamo" "I'd rather earn DM 400K this way" "I'd love to be in the Sprockets movie" "No mouse pads included" "I like to take my time (Pie)" "File under: Kraftwerk" "File next to: "From Dusseldorf to the Future With Love" & "Man, Machine and Music", as a matter of fact, while you're at it, get rid of those two and just leave this one on the shelves, would you?" ;-) KW4EVER! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Re: "Ich war ein Roboter" Date: 25 Aug 1999 11:31:33 -0700 >Now that we all know what the real title is, here is an exclusive of which >ones were some of the working titles that didn't made it to Wolfgang's >cover... >"Under one pillow with the robots" >"From the robots to a human" >"Kraftwerk transformed" >"I was a robot and shared a shower with Florian" >"I am not a robot anymore, I am a mosquito now" >"I was not a robot, nor an interior designer, I was only a damn good >drummer" >"Emil and me built the first electronic drum-pad in 73" >"I was a vegetarian robot, and here are some of my best recipes" >"I had nothing to do with The Mix, I swear" >"I took a lot of pictures while I was in Kraftwerk, wanna c some?" >"Nice cover, isn't?" >"It's more fun to Yamo" >"I'd rather earn DM 400K this way" >"I'd love to be in the Sprockets movie" >"No mouse pads included" >"I like to take my time (Pie)" >"File under: Kraftwerk" >"File next to: "From Dusseldorf to the Future With Love" & "Man, Machine and >Music", as a matter of fact, while you're at it, get rid of those two and >just leave this one on the shelves, would you?" >;-) >KW4EVER! >Enrique > Ha! Or how about... "They made me cut my hair after Autobahn came out" "Aurora Borealis versus Neon Lights" "All the groupies liked me best anyway" "Fahren fahren auf die Awomanaman" Uh, yes. Jason Polland International Sports Sciences Association Multimedia and Web Design http://www.issaonline.com 1-800-892-ISSA (805) 884-8111 / Fax (805) 884-8119 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ola_Qvarnstr=F6m?=" Subject: (kw) KW photos decorates lobby Date: 25 Aug 1999 22:30:37 +0200 Hi, I have just stayed at Hotell Tyl=F6sand - a hotel/conference complex owne= d by Per Gessle from "Roxette". The lobby of the hotel is decorated with four large photos of the Kraftwerk dummies by Anton Corbijn! /Ola # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "angelo" Subject: Re: (kw) Duran Duran Again Date: 25 Aug 1999 22:47:05 -0300 Yes All she want is! Is very similar to numbers! :-) The last album from Duran Duran called Medazzaland from (1997) is totaly electronic! Nick Rhodes use and abuse with keyboards and more Techno sounds! Remering what Nick was a big Kraftwerk fan! Wrote by ... ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: (kw) New CD @ Tower Records? Date: 24 Aug 1999 11:05:44 +0200 There is a "new" KW album available @ Tower Records Europe: http://www.towereurope.com/scripts/runisa.dll?tower.65842:ARTICLESEARCH:2162 22178: ] Title: New ] Artist: Kraftwerk/IMPORT-UK/LMTD ED. ] Release Date: 03.08.99 ] Availability: ] Europe 4-10 days ] US 3-7 days ] World 5-14 days Does anyboby know anything about this? Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Schade, Sven" Subject: AW: "Ich war ein Roboter" (was: Re: (kw) Ich war kein Roboter!!!! Date: 25 Aug 1999 10:19:26 +0200 > > >The so called "Golden Shower" picture was taken from=20 > Wolfgang's new book: > > >"Kraftwerk... Ich war ein Roboter" (Kraftwerk... I was a robot).=20 > >=20 > > Well, the title is "Ich war kein Roboter" and that means "I=20 > was not a > > Robot"!!! >=20 > No, the title is "Ich war ein Roboter", and that means indeed "I was=20 > a robot". Just check the book cover. >=20 > Klaus Zaepke LIBRI the biggest German Book Distributor says: Ich war kein Roboter. Mein Leben mit Kraftwerk. ( Rock-Geschichte). HANNIBAL, 0999 Kt 260 S. Zahlr. Abb. ISBN: 3-85445-173-3 Libri: 5203074 sofort lieferbar=20 DM 38.00 =D6S 256.00, sFr 0.00 cu Sven Schade # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leon Mols" Subject: Re: Doepfer (was: Re: (kw) A few questions) Date: 25 Aug 1999 17:27:16 +0200 > > How do you think a song like "The Robots" is played live, with none of the > > members on stage??? That's a sequencer (or a whole bunch of sequencers)... > > Or a tape? ;-) Nah.... I was at the German concert last year and definitly saw different tracks being played by different instruments on stage (you could see the amplifier or mixer VU meters for each of the 4 KW-ers). That's how you could also see who was doing what ! Leon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) Fluer's book Date: 25 Aug 1999 21:15:19 +0200 As there was a request for a review on the book, I can provide some comments. First of all (and in contrast to Bussy's and even more Barr's book), it is really great to read. Wolfgang Fluer can write, and it's no problem reading the book from beginnig to end without stop. Klaus' comment is exactly on the point, Fluer tells his personal side of the story - as he clearly says himself in the foreword, it is not a book about synthesizers. He concentates on episodes from their tours, their daily work and the characters in the group. By the way, a lot of former faceless people are told about (managers, technicians and so on). As he is a self-assured and funny character, he has no need to bury himself in endless namedropping like Barr. And as Fluer has a colourful language and a great feeling for humour, wit and wordplays, his storytelling surpasses Bussy's book by miles. I'm afraid most of that ould be lost in a translation. Gunther Poecker # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: Re: (kw) Vocoder Date: 25 Aug 1999 17:52:43 -0700 >>> Hi all. I must buy a new synth for myself, but the choice is very arduous. The only sure thing is that it must have a built-in VOCODER. I first wanted to buy the Clavia Nord Modular keyboard version, but here in Milan it's very expensive (in DM about 3.300), so I don't know if I will buy it or not. Now I'm very curious about the Novation Nova; it has a 40-bands vocoder, but I don't know anything about other things (Sequencer? nice voices? Price?.....). Could anyone help me in this hard choice with info about Nova or other synths with vocoder (quasimidi sirius, doepfer, roland jp8080, ....)??? I listened Clavia's one and it was amazing, less the JP8080. << My personal choice from your list for vocoder ability would be the Doepfer A-100 modular using a dedicated vocoder module. But again the costs are rather high. But If you're looking for an almost infinitely versatile piece of equipment with vocoder ability at a lower cost, you might consider the Nord Micro Modular. I believe the cost is generally about 1/2 to 1/3 the price of a full Modular. All patches are cross compatible so patches will work on any of the three versions. I've only tested the vocoder ability a couple of times but its abilities look promising. And since the system is modular, the sound capabilities are almost endless. Of course the Micro Modular has less DSP power and is not muli-timbralbut is a great piece of equipment nonetheless. Although there are no vocoder samples at the moment, there are some samples from the Nord Micro Modular in the "backstudio" archive on my web site as well as some other equipment. http://efofex.simplenet.com/noise/backstudio/ I posted this info to the list in case anyone else might be interested. Kindest regards, -John // efofex - noise has a new purpose http://efofex.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/efofex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DSP Subject: Re: (kw) Photo Date: 26 Aug 1999 01:39:15 -0700 (PDT) That is a picure of the front entrance of the house in which the Kling Klang studio is located. --- Der Automat wrote: > > From what place is this photo? > http://www.fluxgold.de/kr_news.html > > DER AUTOMAT > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "polbox" Subject: (kw) golden shower pic Date: 26 Aug 1999 11:07:28 +0200 with so much talk going on, can someone please post a link to this pic (it appeared yesterday) thnx tadream # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Playback vs. Sequencer (was: Re: Doepfer) Date: 26 Aug 1999 12:21:43 +0000 > > > How do you think a song like "The Robots" is played live, with none of > > > the members on stage??? That's a sequencer (or a whole bunch of > > > sequencers)... > > > > Or a tape? ;-) > > Nah.... I was at the German concert last year and definitly saw different > tracks being played by different instruments on stage On the other hand, there has been debate on this list about how much of this blinking is a fake. Some people were noting that the lights were sometimes out of sync with the music... And there is definitely a recorded studio version of the "Roboter" concert version in existance, which is slightly different to the standard single edit (check the "Kraftwerk International Discography" at http://home.t-online.de/home/0625138143/discog.htm for reference). One could suspect that it might have been recorded as the playback track for the live shows... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Vocoder Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:44:45 -0700 Didi wrote: >Hi all. >I must buy a new synth for myself, but the choice is very >arduous. The only sure thing is that it must have a built-in >VOCODER. John wrote: >>My personal choice from your list for vocoder ability would be >>the Doepfer A-100 modular using a dedicated vocoder module Didi, forget about it! If what you're after is a cheap hi-tech "vocoder", go to any garage sale and buy the Texas Instruments "Speak & Spell" educational electronic games machine. You will be able to imitate the robot-voice from the track "Computer World" and save a lot a money which you can use to pay somebody to translate for you Wolfgang's book ;-) KW4EVER! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "karl wettin" Subject: RE: (kw) Vocoder Date: 26 Aug 1999 13:09:56 -0400 Enrique___ ] Didi, forget about it! If what you're after is a cheap hi-tech ] "vocoder", go to any garage sale and buy the Texas Instruments ] "Speak & Spell" educational vocoders can be used for alot of other stuff than vocals. controling one tonegenrator with another is good way to use it. it will give you really really cool effects. but then, if you just want to use it for vocals, and you never play live, then you can just use the belllabs text to voice and edit it in a sampleeditor. there are also software vocoders out there. hypothetacly, i might have one, so email me priv if you hypothetacly want it. karl\ http://www.mp3.com/wettin/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Vocoder Date: 26 Aug 1999 13:22:08 EDT I wish I had a Speak & Spell. I have a Speak & Read, but it's word bank is very limited and does not know most words used in the Computer World album. Sam Paterson In a message dated 8/26/99 4:55:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!, ENRIQUEC@heraeusmtd.com writes: << buy the Texas Instruments "Speak & Spell" >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Vocoder Date: 26 Aug 1999 10:43:03 -0700 >Hi all. >I must buy a new synth for myself, but the choice is very arduous. >The only sure thing is that it must have a built-in VOCODER. >I first wanted to buy the Clavia Nord Modular keyboard version, but here in >Milan it's very expensive (in DM about 3.300), so I don't know if I will >buy it or not. >Now I'm very curious about the Novation Nova; it has a 40-bands vocoder, >but I don't know anything about other things (Sequencer? nice voices? >Price?.....). I have a Zoom 1202 rackmount effects module... It's primarily a reverb/chorus/flange/echo type of unit, but it does have two vocoder patches. It's around $200 (US) and you can just hook it up to whatever keyboard you have already. Or any other type of sound source... I'm sure everybody knows this already, but just in case: A vocoder basically uses the amplitude and inflection of your voice to control the sound/tone/harmonics of another instrument. So you can hook it up to any constant sound source, whether it be the most modern keyboard synth string module, or a blender with a microphone attached! Yes sir... Jason Polland International Sports Sciences Association Multimedia and Web Design http://www.issaonline.com 1-800-892-ISSA (805) 884-8111 / Fax (805) 884-8119 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) Vocoder Date: 26 Aug 1999 17:45:53 -0400 There are a few freeware vocoders out there... the one I like to use is called "vocoder-1_1b1-x86-win32.zip" It's really good, and comes with some simple instructions. I can't remember where I found it, but you can search for it. If you would like to hear an example of use of the vocoder, I used it in my new song "extinction", which is at www.mp3.com/cheapfiller . First I had a computer over the internet "read" my text, and send back a .wav file. Then I ran the computerized voices through the vocoder. The pitch is controlled by any .wav file you provide with the .wav file of the voice. Michael Dangermond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Dangermond" Subject: (kw) Online speech synthesizer Date: 26 Aug 1999 17:55:35 -0400 This is one of the best speech synthesizers I have found... and it reads text in several languages and voices for you. Try it! Just type in some text and it sends a .wav file back to you. So you don't need to spend a bunch of money to use these effects in songs... plus you have the advantage of involving computers in your compositions that you used over the internet, an interesting concept. Here's the URL: http://www.elantts.com/indemo.htm (This is the one I used in the song "extinction", www.mp3.com/cheapfiller ) In the other song, Taj Bhopal, I used the DECtalk demo software which can be freely downloaded. It sounds more like a "computer voice" and can export right to .wav files. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 26 Aug 1999 08:45:33 GMT Hiya, I've been off the Internet for 2 months so I've lost track of the KW gossip. So tell me please... 1) What's the latest developments or gossip about KW? 2) How do I get a copy of Electric Cafe - Edicion Espanola (I live in Holland)? 3) Anyone agree that 'Surrender' by Chemical Brothers is very much like KW? "Music:Response" is a rip-off of Music Non Stop (They said so on MTV), the sharp synth on "Hey Boy Hey Girl" reminds me a lot of It's More Fun To Compute and basically there's a whole KW feel to the album... 4) If there's a KW jingle on MTV, how do I get hold of it? (and don't say buy a VCR!) Thanks everybody, please visit my very own 'Mattwerk' site: www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palace/8922/kwlangu.htm Greetings from Holland, Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: (kw) Quasimidi Sirius Demo (Was: Vocoder) Date: 26 Aug 1999 22:09:20 +0200 I think the vocoder demo for the Quasimidi Sirius (used by Wolfgang Flur) has a very definite Kraftwerkian mood. You can find it at http://www.quasimidi.com/pub/sirvoc.mp3 "Demo with Vocoder-voice Effects ("T=F6ne, Noten, Elektronen") (568 KB)" Ciao, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) NEW YORK Video Date: 26 Aug 1999 19:55:27 -0300 Dear "werkers", If you want videos showing Kraftwerk on the last tour , I have a New York`s tape , recorded in 98. The songs do not complete, but, the video is a true treasure, showing good closes of Ralf Hutter and cia. Only "The Robots" and "Pocket Calculator" complete. The videotape includes the two new songs (Tribal , Tango (?)) Are you interested ? So, please, contact me privately. BOING !!! BOOM !! TSCHAK !!!! Colatina/ES Brasil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Sausage-Brie Subject: Re: (kw) Duran Duran Again Date: 27 Aug 1999 05:49:22 -0700 (PDT) --- angelo wrote: > > Yes All she want is! Is very similar to numbers! :-) > please lets not even think of comparing Kraftwerk to Duran Duran... Ron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Re: (kw) "Ich war ein Roboter" Date: 27 Aug 1999 14:56:04 +0200 Enrique Correa wrote: >Now that we all know what the real title is, here is an exclusive of which >ones were some of the working titles that didn't made it to Wolfgang's >cover... >"Under one pillow with the robots" >"From the robots to a human" >"Kraftwerk transformed" >"I was a robot and shared a shower with Florian" >"I am not a robot anymore, I am a mosquito now" >"I was not a robot, nor an interior designer, I was only a damn good >drummer" >"Emil and me built the first electronic drum-pad in 73" >"I was a vegetarian robot, and here are some of my best recipes" >"I had nothing to do with The Mix, I swear" >"I took a lot of pictures while I was in Kraftwerk, wanna c some?" >"Nice cover, isn't?" >"It's more fun to Yamo" >"I'd rather earn DM 400K this way" >"I'd love to be in the Sprockets movie" >"No mouse pads included" >"I like to take my time (Pie)" >"File under: Kraftwerk" >"File next to: "From Dusseldorf to the Future With Love" & "Man, Machine and >Music", as a matter of fact, while you're at it, get rid of those two and >just leave this one on the shelves, would you?" That's pretty slick! Let me add some others suggestions: "Seeing Golden Shower Photo one could think that between Flory and me is something more than friendship..., you know!" "Komputer sucks!" "Kraftwerk, they fired me." "I was too much tired to continue working on KlingKlang" "I was tired of these cycling obssesed techno-freaks" "Tim Barr's & Pascal Bussy's suck!" "My life as a robot" "Could anybody tell me why I wasn't interviewed in the Pascal Bussy's book?" "Doreen D'Agostino and I" "The Kings (note the big K) and I" "Who needs Kraftwerk when you have got a couple up front like this?" "Thanks for your time to read this book" "All is well that ends well" "Kraftwerk. Better late than never" "What is done is done" "I hope you like my new direction" DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: AW: (kw) Vocoder Date: 27 Aug 1999 15:06:13 +0200 >There are a few freeware vocoders out there... the one I like to use is >called "vocoder-1_1b1-x86-win32.zip" It's really good, and comes with some >simple instructions. I can't remember where I found it, but you can search >for it. It is the nice Zerius-Vocoder and could be found here: http://zerius.com/vocoder/ Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) "Ich war ein Roboter" Date: 27 Aug 1999 17:29:22 EDT In a message dated 8/27/99 9:09:26 AM, automat@nexo.es writes: >"Komputer sucks!" HAHAHAHA!! Great name for the Fluer book! How about "Karl and I Did All The Real Work". The cover could be a replica of the TEE cover only with giant X's over Ralf and Florian's faces. -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) V I D E O S in vhs Date: 27 Aug 1999 21:52:20 -0300 KRAFTWERK´S VIDEOS Live in Belgique Holland Milano Shefield (The mix Tour - 91-92) Live in New York (1998). If you want a copie in VHS, write me privately. 97 FM Colatina/ES Brasil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?__KRAFTWERK=B4s___VIDEO?= Date: 28 Aug 1999 10:54:33 -0300 Dear "werkers", If you want videos showing Kraftwerk on the last tour , I have a New York`s tape , recorded in 98. The songs do not complete, but, the video is a true treasure, showing good closes of Ralf Hutter and cia. Only "The Robots" and "Pocket Calculator" complete. The videotape includes the two new songs (Tribal , Tango (?)) Are you interested ? So, please, contact me privately. BOING !!! BOOM !! TSCHAK !!!! Colatina/ES Brasil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Lux" Subject: (kw) RE: Europe Endless cover - Kevin Lux Date: 28 Aug 1999 17:38:08 -0500 Greetings all: I have been notified of a problem with the Europe Endless mp3 file on my website. It appears to have some crackling in it around the 3 minute 10 second area. The file has now been re-encoded and reposted. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. The "Club Lux" version is fine however. If you have not heard either version, please feel free to download them. I appreciate your comments, as that motivates me to do more Kraftwerk covers and my own originals in the future. Regards, Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com http://www.mp3.com/kevinlux Electronic Music for the cutting edge. http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com/KW.htm Kevin Lux/Kraftwerk cover songs Futurelounge is now available. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Talley" Subject: Re: (kw) Juan Atkins Date: 28 Aug 1999 21:39:01 -0700 Uh, hellllo? We're talking MTV. What did you expect? Bill Enrique Correa wrote: > > >ericg wrote: > >Hey check it out- MTV's AMP web page has Juan Atkins > >playing "It's More Fun To Compute"!! It's good stuff!!! > Speaking of Juan Atknis; this was taken from MTV's AMP archives: "Juan > Atkins is revered as the godfather of techno"..."the origins of techno can > be traced to the musical experiments of Detroit teenagers Derrick May, Kevin > Saunderson, and Juan Atkins"..."The soul in the machine: That's what Detroit > teens Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson were looking for when > they invented electro". > So I guess for the "godfather" should be a piece of cake to play a song from > some of his "godsons"... I know for a fact that Juan Atkins himself is very > passionate about Kraftwerk and the influence was indeed all the way around, > so I'd like to believe that whoever writes for AMP, is a bit confused with > the true genealogy of techno. > KW4EVER! > Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mischoulon@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: Wolfgang's Book Date: 29 Aug 1999 09:55:32 EDT Will there be an English translation of Wolfgang's book? Some of us can't read German! If there will be no translation, I'll just have to learn German. Can anyone estimate how long that should take me? David M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?KRAFTWERK=B4s__VIDEOS?= Date: 29 Aug 1999 11:05:08 -0300 KRAFTWERK´s VIDEOS in VHS: - KRAFTWERK IN BELGIQUE - KRAFTWERK IN ITALY - KRAFTWERK IN HOLLAND - KRAFTWERK IN ENGLAND (This are perfomances from MIX TOUR, 1991 and 1992) (Numbers, CW, Tour de France, Autobahn, Radioactivity, TEE, Musique non stop and others) - KRAFTWERK IN NEW YORK (1998). (Numbers, CW, Tour de France, THE MAN MACHINE, Radioactivity, TEE, Autobahn, TWO NEW SONGS). - KRAFTWERK COMPILATION (1998) Performaces showed by Japanese and brazilian TVs (Only the following songs: Tribal, Musique Non Stop, The Robots and other new song). Just it, but, professional production by television stations. This videos are available for trade. COLATINA / ES BRAZIL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Tone Float questions Date: 29 Aug 1999 14:47:47 -0400 I have 5 songs from Tone Float in .MP3 format - however, they were zipped when I got them, and all had errors opening the .ZIP file. I believe that some (possible all) are truncated. Here are the titles and lengths, if someone could tell me which are good and which are not I would appreciate it: The good ones will go on CD-R, the bad ones will go...well, someplace else. Milk Rock - 5:18 Noitasinagro - 1:06 Rythym Salad - :33 Silver Forest - 1:57 Tone Float - 3:54 TIA, Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: Re: (kw) Tone Float questions Date: 29 Aug 1999 14:26:17 +0000 you've been cheated, hard with the lengths. these are taken from the Tone Float bootleg CD (no label) Tone Float 20:47 Milk Rock 5:24 Silver Forest 3:19 Rhythm Salad 4:04 Noitasinagro 7:46 you might want to check the Kraftwerk International Discography for more precise song lengths. lenny g At 02:47 PM 8/29/99 Huggy Bear wrote: > >I have 5 songs from Tone Float in .MP3 format - however, they were zipped >when I got them, and all had errors opening the .ZIP file. I believe that >some (possible all) are truncated. Here are the titles and lengths, if >someone could tell me which are good and which are not I would appreciate >it: The good ones will go on CD-R, the bad ones will go...well, someplace >else. > >Milk Rock - 5:18 >Noitasinagro - 1:06 >Rythym Salad - :33 >Silver Forest - 1:57 >Tone Float - 3:54 > >TIA, >Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: Fw: (kw) Tone Float questions Date: 29 Aug 1999 16:53:50 -0400 you've been cheated, hard with the lengths. these are taken from the Tone Float bootleg CD (no label) I haven't been "cheated" at all...but I do suspect there was a problem writing the .ZIP files in the first place. I will get these, sooner or later. Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Calling DJ Compute Date: 29 Aug 1999 16:57:29 -0400 DJ Compute, if you're out there...(or if anyone else knows, for that matter) I would really like to know the title / artist of the "Roses" song that is mixed with Boing Boom Tschack in BBT-ROSES.MP3 Huggy Bear # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?KRAFTWERK=B4s___VIDEOS?= Date: 29 Aug 1999 18:13:21 -0300 KRAFTWERK´s VIDEOS in VHS: - KRAFTWERK IN BELGIQUE - KRAFTWERK IN ITALY - KRAFTWERK IN HOLLAND - KRAFTWERK IN ENGLAND (This are perfomances from MIX TOUR, 1991 and 1992) (Numbers, CW, Tour de France, Autobahn, Radioactivity, TEE, Musique non stop and others) - KRAFTWERK IN NEW YORK (1998). (Numbers, CW, Tour de France, THE MAN MACHINE, Radioactivity, TEE, Autobahn, TWO NEW SONGS). - KRAFTWERK COMPILATION (1998) Performaces showed by Japanese and brazilian TVs (Only the following songs: Tribal, Musique Non Stop, The Robots and other new song). Just it, but, professional production by television stations. Videos available for sale. COLATINA / ES BRAZIL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fw:_=28kw=29_KRAFTWERK=B4s___VIDEOS?= Date: 29 Aug 1999 17:49:36 -0400 >KRAFTWERK´s VIDEOS in VHS: What video format? (NTSC, PAL-M, PAL-G, SECAM, etc...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "fxcordero" Subject: Re: (kw) Calling DJ Compute Date: 29 Aug 1999 18:47:17 -0600 I would really like to know the title / artist of the "Roses" song that is mixed with Boing Boom Tschack in BBT-ROSES.MP3 I TOUCH ROSES BOOK OF LOVE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: RE: (kw) "Ich war ein Roboter" Date: 27 Aug 1999 22:49:15 +0100 How about, 'It's More Fun to Write Books' Sorry, I have a cruel tongue :) -----Original Message----- Sent: 27 August 1999 22:29 In a message dated 8/27/99 9:09:26 AM, automat@nexo.es writes: >"Komputer sucks!" HAHAHAHA!! Great name for the Fluer book! How about "Karl and I Did All The Real Work". The cover could be a replica of the TEE cover only with giant X's over Ralf and Florian's faces. -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) Expo Jingle for trade Date: 29 Aug 1999 11:33:35 +0200 Hello, I have one of the Expo Jingle CD's open for trade. I'm absolutely not interested in selling it, so trade offers only. I also do not expect any ridiculous offers. Of special interest of me are a few vinyl releases from around the world and especially cassette and 8-Track albums. So, if you have something to offer or would like a list of the vinyl I'm searching for, mail me privately. Gunther Poecker # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: RE: (kw) "Ich war ein Roboter" Date: 30 Aug 1999 08:12:52 +0200 (MET DST) "Florian, what's your robot doing in my shower?" "I miss my robot" "My cereals snap, crackle and techno-pop" /bz On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, mark wrote: > > How about, 'It's More Fun to Write Books' > Sorry, I have a cruel tongue :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DSP Subject: Re: (kw) Calling DJ Compute Date: 30 Aug 1999 01:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Where is this MP3 from? Directions, please. --- fxcordero wrote: > I would really like to know the title / artist of > the "Roses" song that is > mixed with Boing Boom Tschack in BBT-ROSES.MP3 > > I TOUCH ROSES > BOOK OF LOVE __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 30 Aug 1999 15:14:27 +0200 Francoise Kevorkian has recently remixed one of the tracks of the CDsingle "Jumbo" by Underworld. The first album by Netz:werk is titled "01". It's published by Flatline label and distributed by Ant Zen. "0Hz - A Journal of Advanced Audio Art" CD-ROM features sound works by ECM 323, Disinformation, Host and T:unk Systems. One of the opus included is titled "Man/Machine Interface". "The Power of Electro" is a various artists double CD compilation which includes Elektric Music, Anne Clark, The Neon Judgement, etc. Gilels Rossire (aka Oil 10) said his influences are LFO, Kraftwerk and the sci-fi soundtracks. His new album is called "Blocks". "Chewing Hides & Greener Postures" is a new reissued in a luxurious double 8 panels digipack of the two first records by Snakefinger (aka Philip Lithman), the legendary and strange guitarist long-time The Residents' collaborator, who unfortunately died in a car accident. Without a doubt this is the best he has done, including the incredible version of Kraftwerk's The Model and other electronic pop bizarre madnesses pretty close to the typical sound of The Residents in that era: 1979-1980. It has been stated this was the first cover version of The Model ever made, but it has forgot Aviador Dro's cover of the same song which it was played live in 1979 for the first time. Acts largely infuenced by KW like Miss Kittin & The Hacker, Dopplereffekt, Anthony Rother, etc., are included on "Electro Physix" CD compilation. Anthony Rother is also included on "Five Kanzleramt Compilation" double CD published by German label Kanzleramt. The band Doppler 20:20 released an album titled "Klangfarbenmelodie". Electro and breakbeats electronic of new school, within varying and elaborated record of electronic music which recalls some editing records of the Rephlex label. There is a band called Neuwerk. One of their songs is included on "Global Psychedelic Trance" double CD-Digipack (Spirit Zone). According to the music press, the band Rococo Rock have been described as Kraftwerk on Technicolor. They make a kind of naif pop with catch melodies. At the beginning of the episode called "Tribes" of the "Emergency" TV serie it can be seen a signboard with the words "Power Plant" can be seen. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DSP Subject: Re: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 30 Aug 1999 07:17:50 -0700 (PDT) "To Rococo Rot" is the name of the group. Their latest album is called Amateur view > According to the music press, the band Rococo Rock > have been described as > Kraftwerk on Technicolor. They make a kind of naif > pop with catch melodies. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Periodical ramblings Date: 30 Aug 1999 09:44:07 -0700 >"Chewing Hides & Greener Postures" is a new reissued in a luxurious double 8 >panels digipack of the two first records by Snakefinger (aka Philip >Lithman), the legendary and strange guitarist long-time The Residents' >collaborator, who unfortunately died in a car accident. Without a doubt this >is the best he has done, including the incredible version of Kraftwerk's The >Model and other electronic pop bizarre madnesses pretty close to the typical >sound of The Residents in that era: 1979-1980. It has been stated this was >the first cover version of The Model ever made, but it has forgot Aviador >Dro's cover of the same song which it was played live in 1979 for the first >time. Snakefinger's "Chewing Hides The Sound" LP, which contains "The Model," was first issued by Ralph Records in 1979. So it still may have been the first cover version! Also, Snakefinger died of a heart attack while on tour in 1987, not a car accident. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Japanese 12" Date: 30 Aug 1999 11:59:48 +0200 Der Automat wrote: >Apparently morever there is an elusive promo 12" containing; Side one: >Duran Duran: Planet Earth (Night Version) (6.18) / Planet Earth (4.02), Side Two: >Kraftwerk: Dentaku (4.35) / Pocket Calculator (4.35). Toshiba-EMI PRP-81= 79, >[1981]. Music Non Stop Ltd sent the following message to me: >Just a quick email to let you know that MNS has just taken delivery of t= he >following extraordinarily rare Kraftwerk Japanese 12" : >12" JAPANESE.TOSHIBA EMI PRP- 8179.Very,very rare and exotic official DJ >Only pressing - Dentaku (4.34) / Pocket Calculator (4.35) in unique slee= ve. >split with Duran Duran Planet Earth.A much sought after pressing and one= of >the few KW 12" to come from Japan ! Both sleeve and vinyl presented in m= int >condition.Recently advertised by Esprit for =A3175.00 UKPounds.MNS Price >=A3150.00 UKPounds.We know of no other copy in Europe !! >This item is now on our web site! http://www.music-non-stop.co.uk DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Flür + Robots + Hannover Date: 30 Aug 1999 05:58:51 PDT Hy guys, Three questions about KW: Anybody has any information about a future translation to english of the=20 Fl=FCr's book? I'm very curious about this book. Thanks Klaus und Gunther= for=20 the comments. And what about the pics? there's any very interesting pic=20 except that at the shower one? IMHO Robots "played" live is a sequenced version. Of course the lights=20 blinks on the song (I really cannot remember if they are out of synch or=20 not), but why should they use a tape (CD?) to play the song if they have = all=20 Kling Klang to play it? By pressing down a special key... and it's much m= ore=20 easy to synchronise the song with the robots using K&K, and not a tape...= =20 Remember many sounds of other songs are sequenced too... Any confirmation about Hannover concert date? Is it really June, 9th? peace Nicolau ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk versus EXPO Date: 30 Aug 1999 22:06:27 +0200 (DFT) According to the Sueddeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, the EXPO plans to publish a CD-ROM, featuring the original Kraftwerk jingle, an extended version, plus a "virtual flight" over the EXPO area (intended price: DM 200). Kraftwerk and their lawyers are trying to prohibit this release, claiming that the EXPO's rights for the jingle do not include record releases. They state that they are worried that such a record release would collide with the "intended release" of a new Kraftwerk album. According to Kraftwerk, the EXPO has no right to publish CD's that use the name "Kraftwerk". EXPO spokesperson Maribel Koeniger replied that the EXPO had Kraftwerk's permission to use their name on the limited version of the jingle CD. The scheduled combined CD/CD-ROM version would be titled as "EXPO 2000", and as such not distributed as a Kraftwerk record release. The article (German language) is online at http://www.sueddeutsche.de/aktuell/polit_j.htm. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: (kw) Tour De France CD Date: 30 Aug 1999 09:53:25 -0700 Hi Werkers, I don't know if this was discussed before I joined the list, but... I just bought the "Tour De France" CD single last week and I noticed something interesting. The LP version from 1983 has the four bikers' heads drawn to look like the four band members... Ralf, Karl, Wolfgang, and Florian. But the new CD reissue has removed Karl and Wolfgang's faces! The two middle bikers have more generic faces now, they look like they're edited versions of Ralf's head. I wondered if maybe Karl and Wolfgang had nothing to do with the song, but in the tray card it clearly states "Bartos" as one of the writers! So what does this tell us? Are Ralf and Florian bitter about Karl and Wolfgang having left the group? If they had their way, would they remove Karl and Wolfgang's likenesses from ALL the album covers? Very strange indeed! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Erratum (was: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk versus EXPO)) Date: 30 Aug 1999 22:11:25 +0200 (DFT) I wrote: > Sueddeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung, The correct name is of course "Sueddeutsche Zeitung"! Sorry, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Date: 30 Aug 1999 22:15:33 +0200 (DFT) > IMHO Robots "played" live is a sequenced version. Of course the lights > blinks on the song (I really cannot remember if they are out of synch or > not), but why should they use a tape (CD?) to play the song if they have all Kling Klang to play it? But why should they produce a playback version of this song if they actually play it with Kling-Klang? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com Subject: Re: (kw) Expo Jingle for trade Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:32:55 +0100 If you really want one of these, visit the Expo 2000 website, email them saying you want an Expo 2000 cd and they'll send one to you. It worked for me! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ullrich Peter Subject: AW: (kw) Expo Jingle for trade Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:58:56 +0200 >If you really want one of these, visit the Expo 2000 website, email them saying >you want an Expo 2000 cd and they'll send one to you. It worked for me! I think that you will not have success with this method any longer as they already have an auction for the expo2000-cds on their website. The last sold cd was sold for 330.-DM!!! The actual bid is 110.-DM See the auction in German: http://www.expo2000.de/deutsch/aktuell/bereich_index_ak_auktion1.html in Engish: http://www.expo2000.de/englisch/aktuell/bereich_index_ak_auktion1.html Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Expo Jingle for trade Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:38:56 EDT In a message dated 8/31/99 1:48:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Edward_Mordaunt@haygroup.com writes: << If you really want one of these, visit the Expo 2000 website, email them saying you want an Expo 2000 cd and they'll send one to you. It worked for me! >> I tried this....I even said I was the program director of a radio station(I used call letters,too). They told me to download it........ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phaethon0@aol.com Subject: (kw) The Orb and "Ralf" Date: 31 Aug 1999 11:18:08 EDT A track on the oft-delyed new Orb album "Cydonia" is titled "Ralf." Apparently this disc has been done for quite some time but has been held up due to record company bureaucracy. I think I remember that the original release date was to be in February; then I heard April; then I heard September. I don't know if the track is named after Kraftwerk's Ralf, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that the Orb is familiar with Kraftwerk's music. I would appreciate it if some of the more hardcore Orb fans on the list could give me more info about this album. Boing Boom Tschak! -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) OT, man or astroman Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:50:50 +0200 I have seen a cd of the abovesaid group at a special price. the cover is very nice and let me think of a nice electronic group. is it so? thanks for your suggestions. I think it's better you email me privately. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "97FM" <97fm@colatina.com.br> Subject: (kw) V I D E O S in VHS Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:01:05 -0300 KRAFTWERKS´s CONCERTS in VHS , (NTSC color system) : THE MIX TOUR (1991-1992): 1) Live in Belgique 2) Live in Italy 3) Live in Holland 4) Live in England (Numbers, Computer World, Homecomputer, Tour de France, The Model, Autobahn Radio-activity, TEE, Pocket Calculator, Musique Non Stop).Total running : 1:20 THE LAST TOUR (1998) 5) Live in New York ( Same songs from Mix Tour, more The Man Machine and two new songs) The quality is good, but, only The Robots an Pocket Calculator complete. Others songs, about 70 % each recorded . COMPILATION (1998) 6) Performances in Japan and Brazil , showed by TVs. VIDEOS AVAILABLE FOR TRADE. Please, contact me privately. 97 FM Colatina/ES BRAZIL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) OT, man or astroman Date: 31 Aug 1999 18:24:09 -0400 >I have seen a cd of the abovesaid group at a special price. >the cover is very nice and let me think of a nice electronic group. >is it so? Incidentally, they are from where I went to University: Auburn, Alabama. What is it? Some things point to techno, others to surf rock. (I'm not sure if ever heard anything by them at all, frankly). But have a look at www.astroman.com -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rochow@pixelmagic.com Subject: Re:(kw) OT, man or astroman Date: 31 Aug 1999 18:29:17 -0400 >the cover is very nice and let me think of a nice electronic group. >is it so? The Album title "EEVIAC: Operational index and reference guide, including other modern computational devices" certainly suggests amusing techno, but who knows ("Digital ist besser" by Tocotronic sounds techno-ish, too, but it's crap, and certainly not Techno at all) -gbr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Schefflan Subject: Re: (kw) The Orb and "Ralf" Date: 31 Aug 1999 21:08:07 -0400 >>> A track on the oft-delyed new Orb album "Cydonia" is titled "Ralf." Apparently this disc has been done for quite some time but has been held up due to record company bureaucracy. <<< Probably due to the End-of-the-World merger between PolyGram (since they're signed to Island) and Universal. Peace. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: Re: (kw) The Orb and "Ralf" Date: 31 Aug 1999 20:03:54 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- > I don't know if the track is named after Kraftwerk's Ralf, but I > think it's pretty safe to assume that the Orb is familiar with Kraftwerk's > music. I once read that Alex Patterson likes KW's early stuff. This seems to be confirmed as they poped Tanzmusic on the turntable, at the end of a couple gigs I attended (92/93). Went down very well with the crowd too! Cheers Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 47 <47@radiolink.net> Subject: (kw) to: josef gabler Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:32:33 +0000 hello, i am sorry to do this, but i am having trouble contacting josef's e-mail, i've tried for days. i am sending this through the list in hopes he will get this. josef, please let me know if you got my last message. your tape is ready and shipped off. once again i apologize to everyone and thank you for understanding. lenny g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/