From: richard.poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) Your kidding right? Date: 01 Mar 2000 09:25:46 GMT PBOY wrote about Brian Eno "I just think that his ambient music is almost distant from the electro-rythmic stuffs that made Ralf & Florian so popular and influenced so many techno-artists in the world ...!!!!" Actually I think there is a lot of similarity in some Eno and of the older Kraftwerk tunes PBOY. Take Heimetklange and Ananas Symphonie for example, are these not from the same school as Eno? Rich # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Wilson-Beales Subject: RE: (kw) Your kidding right? Date: 01 Mar 2000 09:37:00 -0000 O.k guys, I am the criminal who slated PBoy big time and i've sent my apologies....Yes Richie, you gotta be daft not to notic the similarities/influence of kraftwerk on ENO....anyway...does anyone out there know of any good books on kraftwerk...a good "background" type thing or should i just go to a particular website? Cheers Stevros # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Come and join the Kraftwerk IRC Channel! Date: 01 Mar 2000 10:32:45 -0000 A pretty good book about KW is Wolfgang Fl=FCr's 'Ich war ein Roboter', available from www.amazon.de (but apparently unavailable elsewhere due to some kind of legal action from Ralf&Florian). It's in German (or course, though there are alot of previously unpublished photos) and an English edition is unavailable at the moment.=20 Wolfgang wrote me a couple of weeks ago to say he is looking for English and Japanese publishers =96 send me a reply if anyone has any suggestions (especially Japanese) and I could add them to my list. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Dub Model Date: 01 Mar 2000 12:43:03 +0100 Yesterday I found the LP "Going West" (1983) by The Members in a 2nd-hand-shop, and YES: Their cover version of "The Model" seems indeed to be the one I heard in a cafe some weeks ago. The other tracks on this record are ... hmmm, well, it=B9s not what I would call a "great album", but it's not a bad LP. BIG thanx to all people who pointed this out to me! Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Future Music's readers choose the best of the century Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:28:00 +0100 The readers of the Spanish electronic music magazine Future Music have chose the musicians more important of this century. The more innovator musicians are: 1 Robert Moog 2 Jean Michel Jarre 3 Kraftwerk The more influential records are: 1 Oxygene by Jean Michel Jarre 2 Autobahn by Kraftwerk 3 Switched On Bach by Walter/Wendy Carlos 4 Trans Europe Express by Kraftwerk 5 Leftism by Letfield 6 Planet Rock by Afrika Bambaataa 7 Music For The Jilted Generation by Prodigy 8 Man Machine by Kraftwerk 9 Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield 10 Cars by Gary Numan Decisive moments 1 Invention of the MiniMoog by Bob Moog (1963). 2 Invention of the sampler by EMI / Fairlight (1979). 3 Introduction of the MIDI system (1983). 4 Invention and development of the Theremin (20's). 5 The records and great influence of Kraftwerk (from 1970). DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -ericg- Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music's readers choose the best of the century Date: 01 Mar 2000 10:26:46 -0500 > The readers of the Spanish electronic music magazine Future Music have chose > the musicians more important of this century. Um, I direct your attention to an email sent to the list on Christmas Eve. If I remember correctly, it sparked a little bit of a controversy. I actually think the list is pretty damn good, but maybe it's just because every readers poll here in America seems to end up with the Backstreet Boys on top. -ericg- kraftwerk@mac.com elg23@cornell.edu > From: Didi > Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:21:30 +0100 > To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (kw) Future Music > > > Hi all, > in the last issue (91) of english magazine Future Music there is the result > of the nominations of the readers about the most innovative and important > musicians/albums in electronic music. > > Innovative musicians: > > 1) Robert Moog > 2)Jean Michel Jarre > 3)Kraftwerk > 4)Leon Theremin > 5)Brian Eno > > > Indispensable invention: > > 1)Sampler > 2)Computer > 3)Sequencer > 4)Synthesizer > 5)MIDI > > > Groundbreaking album: > > 1) Oxygene - JMJ > 2)Autobahn - KW > 3)Switched on Bach - Wendy Carlos > 4)Trance (sic) Europe Express - KW > 5)Leftism - Letfield > 6)Planet Rock - Afrika Bambaataa > 7)Music for the jilted generation - Prodigy > 8)Man Machine - KW > 9)Tubular bells - Mike Oldfield > 10)Cars - Gary Numan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) Dub Model Date: 01 Mar 2000 10:55:47 -0500 On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:43:03 +0100 Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) writes: > > Yesterday I found the LP "Going West" (1983) by The Members in a > 2nd-hand-shop, and YES: Their cover version of "The Model" seems > indeed to > be the one I heard in a cafe some weeks ago. speaking of covers...senor coconut y su conjunto: el baile aleman is out with covers of: showroom dummies, radioactivity, trans europe express, the robots, neon lights, autobahn, homecomputer, tour de france, the man machine and music non stop and its a real doozy...i understand a limited single featuring their cover of expo2000 is on its way...on east west japan... tom w np: el baile aleman ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Martland?= Subject: Re: Bands like KW (was: Re: (kw) No subject given) Date: 01 Mar 2000 09:26:05 +0000 (GMT) Peder wrote: > -You=B4re right they were Moogs, and as i can remember > there was two system-55=20 > and some custom built system! If I'm not mistaken I'm sure that Telex laways used the big Roland 100m modular. I have a promo picture of them with it. This of course doesn't detract from the irony of writing a song about appearing on the Eurovision song contest for the contest. They also do a song called Tour De France-about a belgina male harassing an english woman-very funny. ______________________________________________________ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Paul Martland e.mail:paul_martland@yahoo.co.uk ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) Machine Soul Date: 01 Mar 2000 08:28:01 -0800 (PST) Hi everyone, Scheduled for release here in the US on March 14th is a 2-CD compilation entitled "Machine Soul: An Odyssey Into Electronic Dance Music" with KW, Throbbing Gristle, Depeche Mode, Prodigy, et al, on Rhino Records (courtesy of Ice Magazine). Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk TOTP2 Wednesday evening BBC Date: 01 Mar 2000 18:54:04 +0100 Well, that wasn't The Model, but an EXPO2000 performance for TOTP2 like the one on RTL the other day. Not such an exclusive performance after all. The robots slowly moving with those suits on. The heads are pretty life-like these days. The EXPO2000 version is the regular radio edit, not the poppy EXPO2002 as I had expected. Rick Jansen Rick Jansen wrote: > > Kraftwerk is listed as one of the bands for TOTP2 > Wednesday evening BBC. Probably the The Model video. -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk TOTP2 Wednesday evening BBC Date: 01 Mar 2000 19:10:27 +0000 Rick Jansen wrote: > > Well, that wasn't The Model, but an EXPO2000 performance for TOTP2 > like the one on RTL the other day. Not such an exclusive performance > after all. > > The robots slowly moving with those suits on. As in past years, they arthritically raised their arms and twitched their heads (only this time wearing the neon jimjams first sported at 'Tribal Gathering'). Hmm, the robot of Dorian Gray? Initially I thought, this is bad. But gradually... no, you have to admire it. KW's attitude is: we are right; this is how we do things, this is the way, so f--- you. Really quite rock 'n' roll after all! I may even buy the single, how about that. ;-D Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: (kw) krautspotting Date: 01 Mar 2000 19:07:39 -0000 First UK appearance (I think) of the new robots tonight on TOTP2. A specially recorded Expo2000 studio performance with various witticisms courtesy of Steve Wright (he took the piss, basically). TOTP2 usually gets a repeat on BBC2 the following Saturday about 5pm if you fancy checking it out. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spacolley@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Melodies From Mars Date: 02 Mar 2000 06:05:20 EST sorry my roommate left ,hes at a new address .so if u could please stop e-mailing me i dont know about any of this stuff the wrong e -mail bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) Well Off-Topic Date: 02 Mar 2000 09:18:14 GMT I would like to draw your attention towards two new tracks I recently distributed. My influences are Kraftwerk, Grand Master Flash and Jeff Lynne (amusingly). The music is messed up drum beats and strange sounds. I beg you to download and give me your honest opinion. http://www.geocities.com/bobbybeats/slowitdown.zip http://www.geocities.com/bobbybeats/churching.zip I compress the mp3s so Explorer doesn't open bloody winamp. Many, many thanks in advance. Large ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) new sounds : take 2 Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:08:36 GMT Ok, now they are zip files. http://www.geocities.com/bobbybeats/slowitdown.zip http://www.geocities.com/bobbybeats/churching.zip Please forgive my completely unrelated postings, but I really want feedback from you guys - you have pretty good taste from what I've seen discussed in the last few years. Again, thanks in advance for your constructive/destructive comments. Large ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: (kw) New Guy Date: 02 Mar 2000 06:34:11 -0500 At 07:10 PM 3/1/00 +0000, you wrote: >Initially I thought, this is bad. But gradually... no, you have to admire >it. KW's attitude is: we are right; this is how we do things, this is the >way, so f--- you. Really quite rock 'n' roll after all! > >I may even buy the single, how about that. ;-D Hey all. Blake in Toronto here. I just joined the list. I started to listen to Kraftwerk around Christmas 1989 when I bought Computer World. I barely listened to them in 1998 and not at all in 1999. I re-started producing my own music at the start of January and decided to re-play the whole Kraftwerk catalog I had. What a revelation. I just got back from London, England where I went Kraftwerk nuts, buying and reading both Bussey's and Barr's books, purchasing TONEFLOAT, RALF AND FLORIAN, TOUR DE FRANCE cd, as well as the AUTOBAHN and POCKET CALCULATOR 7". You can do that kind of thing over there. A question or two... 1) I bought a promo of the U.K. single while there. Is it the same running order of the German one? I thought the U.K. one was supposed to be an "Enhanced CD"? Pardon me, if this has all recently been discussed. 2) I'd love to get all the old Kraftwerk videos and whatever appearances on video-tape, and I see this guy from New Jersey on E-Bay. Anybody ordered from him? Comments? I, too, found it odd that they would release something like EXPO 2000. The first two versions seemed very cold; very metallic - lacking in any kind of warm keyboards which made their best stuff so distinctive, and CERTAINLY lacking in any sense of humour. And then I hear the 2002 mix and I think to myself, why on earth wouldn't they have THAT as the actual version, instead of just some mix buried on a CD single? At least that one had some life to it. The radio edit, and related mixes, sounded like a commercial - something that might be played over a sound system as you walked around the Expo 2000 grounds. Who needs that. Anyway, thanks for listening and look forward to more conversation. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo Publicity Date: 02 Mar 2000 20:22:52 -0000 Apart from the Robots' appearance on Top of the Pops 2, complete with legs and sarcastic comments from Steve Wright, I ve come across two other manifestations:- This week's 'Big Issue' magazine has a review of the single and a promo picture. 'Time Out' also have a promo picture in their singles review column. They declare the single to be '.......barely robotic but softly hypnotic, it bomps and grooves with a slyly throbbing electro-sensuality. And sounds just like Kraftwerk. Well, what did ya expect - beards and bandanas and dirty guitar rawk? Ace' Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Serjeant" Subject: (kw) totp2 Date: 02 Mar 2000 17:20:22 GMT Expo 2000 on TOTP2 was fantastic - like robot tai-chi. A friend of mine reckoned it was the best thing he'd seen on TOTP for years. Steve Wright - what a w****r, if anyone's an "embarassing buffoon" . . . well. . . What was that record he released in the 1980's?? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicolau Centola" Subject: (kw) Robo-Orges Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:13:04 PST What's that?? Robo-Orges?? peace Nicolau http://members.xoom.com/kraftworld >>>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:27:37 -0000 Yea, I'll have to agree...The kraftwerk boys lost it ever since they released that rare 12" transmission of "Robo-Orges" back in 1982. It was the wierdest thing i ever did see. Thank god we still have Brian Eno. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) Yello about KRAFTWERK Date: 03 Mar 2000 15:50:16 +0100 "For me KRAFTWERK is still the most epochal and most important band at all, because of their development of an own identity in pop music of europe and continental-europe without England. Because they really invented something new, which could be created only from this Germany in this time and which is a very precisely expression of this time and of "Zeitgeist" ("spirit of the age")." Dieter Meier, Yello source: "Textundton"-magazine #32, 02/03/00 Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Yello about KRAFTWERK Date: 03 Mar 2000 16:59:40 +0100 Wess wrote: > > "For me KRAFTWERK is still the most epochal and most important band at > all, ..." > Dieter Meier, Yello > source: "Textundton"-magazine #32, 02/03/00 Well, then Dieter Meier is more positive about Kraftwerk than his colleague Boris Blank, who stated to absolutely NOT like Kraftwerk at all. From and interview by Paul Tingen in the Dutch magazine "Recording" of November/December 1994 p.24 I quote: "So I think electronic instruments have a soul too and I'm interested to extract the human side from them, instead of making them sound like robots as Kraftwerk do. I do not like their machine-like, artificial plastic sound. Their approach is very German and completely opposite mine." As Paul Tingen remarks: "Blank's aversion against Kraftwerk is remarkable because the mechanical perfection of Kraftwerk's music and the careful details of Yello's music can be regarded as expressions of certain aspects of the [same, German] culture." Indeed very odd Blank is so negative about Kraftwerk. I think Yello and Kraftwerk' music are quite similar in many ways. Although, while Kraftwerk is so very serious, Yello can hardly be surpassed loony-wise. Maybe Devo and Telex qualify in that department (Telex): The music That you are hearing Is something stolen Rhythm and all I heard it And then I taped it And added singing But, no guitars Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: (kw) On BBC2 on March 4th. Date: 03 Mar 2000 08:36:23 -0800 (PST) I read on alt.music.kraftwerk that KW (the robots...) will be on BBC2 on March 4th at 5:20 pm. ===== Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Date: 03 Mar 2000 11:11:55 GMT when's the E2K single coming out in Holland?? If there are extra versions or a video ROM, it's mine the day it comes out... As for KW on TOTP2, why aren't they on the regular TOTP? At least they'd have more publicity - if the shit nowadays can get all these doped-up kiddies to dance and buy singles, surely a sound performance by our boys can get E2K a spot up in the charts... Matt best KW site: www.geocities.com/gb_not_eu ps. Gunther P=F6cker, motherf=F6cker. This guy refused to help me out wit= h a KW problem because I have different political beliefs. This is the guy with the KW international discography and the pictures of singles that so many of us take for our own sites... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Date: 03 Mar 2000 11:17:15 GMT Anybody want a copy of the very rare Dutch-only release of KW's 'Armageddon 2000' (2002 mix)??? Thank god for Vengaboys. Oh sorry, maybe not. Sellafield 2 will produce 7.5 tons of plutonium every year. 1.5 kilograms of plutonium make the nuclear bomb. Sellafield 2 will release the same amount of radioactivity into the environment as Chernobyl every 4.5 years. One of these radioactive substances, Krypton 85, will cause death and skin cancer. (Kraftwerk 1991, c 1991 Klingklang) sod that, visit me at www.geocities.com/gb_not_eu/kwlangu.htm !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Yello about KRAFTWERK Date: 03 Mar 2000 10:31:06 -0500 Now thats very profound, to me. I've always appreciated Yello's work and its nice to hear them giving props to Kraftwerk. And one could extend that influence not just to Europe but also the US as well. and thats a good thing. Jim J. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:50 AM > > "For me KRAFTWERK is still the most epochal and most important band at > all, because of their development of an own identity in pop music of > europe and continental-europe without England. Because they really > invented something new, which could be created only from this Germany in > this time and which is a very precisely expression of this time and of > "Zeitgeist" ("spirit of the age")." > Dieter Meier, Yello > source: "Textundton"-magazine #32, 02/03/00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 03 Mar 2000 17:41:14 +0100 gb_not_eu@hotmail.com writes: > >Anybody want a copy of the very rare Dutch-only release of KW's >'Armageddon 2000' (2002 mix)??? Hello! in fact I have no idea what this could be (a remix?) i would like to get a copy. regards --_josef > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Beat Club - The Best of '71" Video Date: 04 Mar 2000 02:31:42 +0000 Kraftwerk's "Rueckstoss Gondoliere" Beat Club TV appearance from 1971 was released on VHS video tape in Germany: "Beat Club - The Best of '71" Studio Hamburg, 4 03178 920043. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 2-track CD single? Date: 04 Mar 2000 02:31:42 +0000 The following item is listed in the Hotstuff mailorder catalogue at www.hotstuff.se: CDS KRAFTWERK EXPO 2000 European 2 track single in paper sleeve Does anyone know the exact details (catalogue number, tracklisting) for this release? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) "Beat Club - The Best of '71" Video Date: 04 Mar 2000 13:48:20 +0100 > > Kraftwerk's "Rueckstoss Gondoliere" Beat Club TV appearance from > 1971 was released on VHS video tape in Germany: > > "Beat Club - The Best of '71" > Studio Hamburg, 4 03178 920043. > > Klaus Zaepke BTW: Last night, the "Beat Club" inventor/producer and director of this Kraftwerk TV broadcast, Michael Leckebusch, has died of a heart disease at the age of 62. Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats Kadmark Subject: (kw) Recommended listening Date: 04 Mar 2000 23:09:04 +0100 Hi,=20 =20 My top nine albums are listed at my new web page at:=20 =20 http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk/rek.htm=20 =20 If there is one you haven't already heard, I'd recommend=20 you listen to it ! =20 =20 See you later!=20 =20 Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk.com Date: 05 Mar 2000 18:47:44 -0000 The old site we knew and loved Kraftwerk.com, has subsumed Kraftwerk.de. Check it out http://www.kraftwerk.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: (kw) Alan Wilder (Recoil, DM) & Kraftwerk Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:01:54 EST In the current (feb. 2000) Q+A section of his Recoil-homepage (www.recoil.co.uk) KRAFTWERK is mentioned twice: Alan Wilder about EXPO2000: "Well, Kraftwerk do Kraftwerk very well but unfortunately haven't innovated for a long time. Maybe that's asking too much but I never expected them to become caricatures of themselves." In between his top 10 CDs, you can find: "[...] 4. 'Computer World' - Kraftwerk Truly ground breaking group who perfected their minimal style with this LP and have been treading water ever since. The 'Grandfathers Of Electro' deserve the title for being so massively important in the influence of not only electronic music for the last two decades but also for providing the entire rhythmic basis for Hip Hop. [...]" MfG Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: C Twomey Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos remix of Anthony Rother tonight @ Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:41:23 -0400 Klublife New Music Show live tonight 6 to 9 pm Eastern Standard Time North America @ http://www.1Groove.com then posted on Monday for real audio play at any time - for one week. =46eaturing a preview of Amon Tobin's Supermodified album due from Ninja Tun= e in May, as well as an Adrian Sherwood remix of Audio Active from their upcoming Warner International CD, Return Of The Red I. Hour 1 Anthony Rother "Little Computer People (Karl Bartos remix)" Anthony Rother "Don't Stop The Beat" =46rost Jockey Burgundy Trax Vol 1 "Spitoon" Planet =B5 Lino Squares "Tidy Unit" Riou Cone Of Confusion "Beat 4/4" Lino Squares "Phrique Out" Amon Tobin Supermodified "Chocolate Lovely" Yennah Red Noise "Are We Being Clear? (Bullitnuts Remix)" Aromabar 1 "Green Running" Brian Eno "In Dark Trees" Eardrum Last Light "Low Order" Club Off Chaos "Brusel" Club Off Chaos "Chichirillo" Mute Hour 3 Audio Active "Idle Dragon" Audio Active Psycho Buds "Emergency HosPOTal Dub" Audio Active "Idle Dragon (Adrian Sherwood Takes A Drag On Mix)" The Residents Stars & Hank "Kaw-liga" The Residents Kaw-liga Housey Mixes "The Housey Mix" by Moody Boys The Residents "Kaw-liga (Prairiemix)" The Residents "Kaw-liga (Nightmare Mix II)" Coil "MU UR" cheers Chris Twomey http://www.1groovE.com Klublife New Music Show (live Sundays 6-9pm EST & posted for 1 week) http://www.tandemnews.com/music.html weekly CD review column for Tandem newspaper http://www.interlog.com/~costan/MNN.html Music News Network interview/review site # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos Website Date: 06 Mar 2000 00:27:06 +0000 http://www.karl-bartos.de Rather minimal... ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angelo" Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK IN FIRE TALK Date: 06 Mar 2000 13:35:29 -0300 Hi Werkers! I created one forum chat in the new program Fire Talk to everybody talk about Kraftwerk. Any people also can create other channels! The name chat is called KRAFTWERK_BRASIL. The Talks happen every saturday at 03:00h A.M. according universal time! I'll waiting you! : -))) To download Fire Talk go to ... http://www.firetalk.com Bye!!! ============================================ //////////ANGELO///////////////////// angelo@urbi.com.br Miguel Angelo C. Praça////// http://www.urbi.com.br/users/angelo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ICQ: 11606126 /////////////////////// ============================================ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Karl Bartos Website Date: 06 Mar 2000 08:45:51 +0100 At least it leavs some room for improvments! /Joakim -----Original Message----- Rather minimal... ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos Website Date: 06 Mar 2000 15:44:04 +0100 R+F will become envious of such minimalism ;-) Gunnar Klaus Zaepke schrieb: > > http://www.karl-bartos.de > > Rather minimal... ;-) > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk.com Date: 06 Mar 2000 00:00:57 PST THis is very strange. Two weeks ago the same thing happend but at the end= of=20 the week the oldschool site was back. Lets see what happends this time. /andr=E9as The old site we knew and loved Kraftwerk.com, has subsumed Kraftwerk.de. Check it out http://www.kraftwerk.com/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "King Rollo" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 UK release Date: 06 Mar 2000 14:41:05 GMT Well I'll just put up my thoughts since no-one else seems to have done so thus far (or else it's stuck in the mail!)... Well firstly here's the bad news: unless EMI have managed to get a special deal with CIN (who make up the charts), it isn't going to chart. To be eligible for the UK charts, a single generally has to have 3 or less tracks and 20 or less minutes of music. This fails the first criterion, as it has 4 tracks (plus the enhanced material). Starting with the packaging, it comes in a standard single case (instead of the album case the German one is in), with the "jumpsuit" picture from the inner sleeve of the original issue on the cover (and a nasty "Enhanced CD" logo in the corner). The side of the sleeve facing the CD has a picture I'd not seen before of the plastic people in the sunglasses and the website address (with a rather ugly pixellated mouse pointer pointing at it). The sleeve then folds out to reveal the full credits. The tracks are as follows: 1. Radio Mix 3:35 2. Kling Klang Mix 2000 6:48 3. Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 * 4. Kling Klang Mix 2001 3:50 ** * - this sounds liks a remix of the one on the German CD to my untrained ears but I'm listening on different equipment so I can't be sure. To me, it sounds much 'heavier' - with bigger strings & more echo, but I can't be sure. ** - this is of course the radio edit of the 2001 mix There are then 2 enhanced tracks: one in poor quality & one in very high quality - both feature what I can only assume is the video to the Radio Mix - with the plastic people in front of the screens and the pictures of the Expo 2000 exhibition & all that. I can't say what the interface is like because I can't view it on here, but the video is awesome. OK, that'll be all. r. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) important! Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:35:31 CET My e-mail address (gb_not_eu@hotmail.com) has been wiped for some strange reason. I copy CDs for fellow KW fans, and therefore e-mail addresses are important to me. However, because I lost my address I also lost my address book. Will the following people PLEASE e-mail me as this is important for our present and future trades... Sam Paterson (USA) Nate Ward (USA) Runar (from Missinglink, Iceland) Raul Ortiz (USA) Gunnar Wess (Germany) Charles Watkins, Jr (USA) Jason Knuckles (USA) Cheeba (Norway) If I left anyone out, sorry! So mail me at the following address: mattwerk@hotmail.com thanks guys! Matthew Dean ps. The 'Mattwerk' page will be updated sooner or later; it still has the old address. Damn this Hotmail! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Attention list-makers & completists / Re: King Rollo message Date: 06 Mar 2000 18:17:27 -0000 Expo 2000 (March 2000 enhanced CD): The promo version of this release has only edited 'radio mix' versions of 2002, 2000 and 2001 (in that order) and no enhanced stuff. The front of the cover is as described in King Rollo's e-mail, with mere tracklist/copyright details within. > I guess that makes the 3'49" version 2002 rare, unless it is to appear on yet another release (sounds like money for old rope to me). ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: (kw) Attention list-makers & completists / Re: King Rollo Date: 06 Mar 2000 06:04:46 -0500 At 06:17 PM 3/6/00 -0000, you wrote: > >Expo 2000 (March 2000 enhanced CD): > >The promo version of this release has only edited 'radio mix' versions of >2002, 2000 and 2001 (in that order) and no enhanced stuff. The front of the >cover is as described in King Rollo's e-mail, with mere tracklist/copyright >details within. >> >I guess that makes the 3'49" version 2002 rare, unless it is to appear on >yet another release (sounds like money for old rope to me). Interesting. I bought two of these promo versions at a Record Fair in the U.K. in February. Both are sealed and I couldn't check out the track listings, nor did I know whether or not it was enhanced. I'm HOPING this is the promo version you speak of... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274669297 ...cause if it has an edit of the 2002, I'm keeping the second one. Dumb-ass me, I turned down a promo version with a press write-up on it. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Join the brand, new TIMELY - ATLAS Mailing List on E-Groups at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ta/main.html * THE Web-site for BILL EVERETT, ALEX SCHOMBURG and SYD SHORES at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * STEVE DITKO, co-creator of Spider-Man, Mr. A, Dr. Strange at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * The Thompson Twins, Dave Stieb, Sarah McLachlan & Joe Sakic at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko37.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos Website Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:11:37 -0500 And you too can be minimalistic in the style of the Karl Bartos website by using the following ;-) www.karl-bartos.de <body><A href="/start.html">Hier geht es weiter ...</a> <body> hoping i don't get sued for copyright infringement ;-p Jim J. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:44 AM > > R+F will become envious of such minimalism ;-) > > Gunnar > > Klaus Zaepke schrieb: > > > > http://www.karl-bartos.de > > > > Rather minimal... ;-) > > > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "King Rollo" Subject: Re: (kw) Attention list-makers & completists / Re: King Rollo message Date: 06 Mar 2000 18:55:33 GMT Very same. Although keeping them sealed won't help much - UK record companies don't seal CD Promos before sending them out and don't generally seal CDs at all (unless you buy from big chains, and I assume they seal them themselves, I may be wrong). r. > Interesting. I bought two of these promo versions at a Record Fair >in the U.K. in February. Both are sealed and I couldn't check out the >track listings, nor did I know whether or not it was enhanced. I'm >HOPING this is the promo version you speak of... > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274669297 > > ...cause if it has an edit of the 2002, I'm keeping the second >one. Dumb-ass me, I turned down a promo version with a press write-up >on it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ferris" Subject: (kw) Hello Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:34:11 +0100 Hello KWFans, I'm news here, and I hope I will have fun. Fabien # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Wilson-Beales Subject: RE: (kw) Hello Date: 07 Mar 2000 12:36:50 -0000 Dearest KW fans, Would anyone be able to tell me who promotes Kreaftwerk records in Britain. I review new releases at www.studentmagazine.com under the section BEALES BEATS and would like to get into contact with the label or the promoters... help!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) (just in case my last one didn't go through...) Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:15:45 -0000 Re: 'Would anyone be able to tell me who promotes Kreaftwerk records in Britain.' Try e-mailing martin.nutley@emimusic.com or visit the new(ish) website: http://www.emichrysalis.co.uk/content.html There is a Kraftwerk press release there, though its typical PR fluff. Also a link to the revamped www.kraftwerk.com site. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) FWIW: Guardian piece last Sunday Date: 07 Mar 2000 14:37:03 +0000 'The Guardian' (UK newspaper) had an item on Kraftwerk last Sunday (in its 'The Guide' supplement). Unfortunately it was a typically verbose and imprecise piece, so I needn't quote from it. There is implied comparison of the new single to muzak (ironic, given Kraftwerk's alleged hatred of elevator music, but perhaps not unfair), a photo of the band from the 70s and a lot of reflective rhetoric amounting to little. It may have intrigued the casual reader, however. KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 07 Mar 2000 14:37:03 +0000 Matthew Dean wrote: > ps. Gunther P=F6cker, motherf=F6cker. This guy refused to help me out with > a KW problem because I have different political beliefs. That's his prerogative, isn't it? If you believe that European nations should have self-determination, why not grant Gunther a little freedom too? ;-) Either way, name-calling doesn't do you much credit, IMHO. > This is the > guy with the KW international discography and the pictures of singles > that so many of us take for our own sites... So, maybe he's already done enough for you, hmm? Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: FW: (kw) Hello Date: 07 Mar 2000 16:07:07 +0100 Ahh=2E=2E=2E nice to finally get some news from this mailinglist :) /Johan Hello KWFans, I'm news here, and I hope I will have fun=2E Fabien # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Hannover Expo Date: 07 Mar 2000 17:50:34 -0000 I've just had a message which says that the Hannover Expo 2000 Hotline is saying Kaftwerk will not be performing at the event. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean Christophe DERRIEN Subject: (kw) Elektric Music First album Digipack edition on Ebay Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:18:18 +0200 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=276318523 JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos Website Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:28:54 +0000 > R+F will become envious of such minimalism ;-) Especially if they find the same minimal style also at http://www.electric-music.de... :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Coen Rampen" Subject: (kw) Introduction & Expo2000 European 2-track info Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:34:21 +0100 Hello everyone! My name is Coen Rampen and I'm new to this list. I'm a 20 year old student from Holland. I haven't been a Kraftwerk fan for long; about half a year now I think. Therefore, I haven't seem them live yet, but I do have their albums excluding some German releases. I'm not sure what my favorite album is; I love them all actually. :-) My favorite tracks include: Europe Endless, Autobahn, Computer Love (Mix version), Megaherz, Spacelab, both TEE versions with Metal On Metal and Abzug, Electric Cafe's A-side. Other musical interests: Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, other electronic music. I've been reading the list archives for a while (now that's lurking for you) so I noticed a request for info about the 2-track Expo2000 single. Guess what, I just bought one this afternoon (with the German re-issue and the UK maxi, in fact). It's probably European, since it doesn't have a UK catalog number and it doesn't mention destribution by EMI Chrysalis like the maxi. It comes in a carton sleeve with the same cover as the UK maxi. Catalog number is 7243 8 88369 0 6. Track listing is: 1 Expo2000 Radio Mix 3:35 2 Expo2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 Kling Klang Mix 2002 is the new mix, as you might expect. It also has the video clip as a CD enhanced track. The back shows the same four heads photo as the maxi; CD print is also the same except for some text. Has there already been a Japanese release of the single? Any different from the Europeans? OK, enough for my first post I guess. :-) Greetz, Coen Rampen c.rampen@student.utwente.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: C Twomey Subject: (kw) Klublife New Music Show now posted @ http://www.1Groove.com Date: 08 Mar 2000 01:39:19 -0400 Klublife New Music Show live Sundays 6 to 9 pm Eastern Standard Time North America @ http://www.1Groove.com then posted on Monday for real audio play at any time - for one week. =46eaturing a preview of Amon Tobin's Supermodified album due from Ninja Tun= e in May. Karl Bartos' new remix of Anthony Rother. Adrian Sherwood remix of Audio Active from their upcoming Warner International CD, Return Of The Red I. Hour 1 Little Computer People (Karl Bartos remix) - Anthony Rother - (PSI 49 Ne= t) Don't Stop The Beat - Anthony Rother - (PSI 49 Net) Spitoon - Frost Jockey - (Planet Mu) Tidy Unit - Lino Squares - (Humboldt County) Beat 4/4 - Riou - (KK Records) Phrique Out - Lino Squares - (Humboldt County) Chocolate Lovely - Amon Tobin - (Ninja Tune) Are We Being Clear? (Bullitnuts Remix) - Yennah - (Shadow Records) Green Running - Aromabar - (INFRACom!) In Dark Trees - Brian Eno - (Virgin) Low Order - Eardrum - (Leaf) Brusel - Club Off Chaos - (Les Disques Du Soleil) Chichirillo - Club Off Chaos - (Mute) Hour 2 Callin All The People - Aphrodite - (Whitehouse Records) DJ Dean Russell: My Life Muzik (Superchumbo Fly Mix) - The Maddkatt Courtship III - (ffrr= ) Junkee Express (Robbie Rivera;s Puerto Rican Styel mix) - The Raw Junkeez present - (AV8) Why Can't You Be Real (Danny's Hard Dub rmx) - Byron Stingily - (Nervous= ) Rainbow Country (Knee Deep's Club Mix) - Bob Marley vs Funkstar Deluxe - (Club Tools/Attic) - DJ TAPE - Tyler 'T-Bone' Stadius - () Quantum Leap EP - Trans AM (background music) - (Speaker Attack) Tori (Dj Ras Futus Mix) - The Anand Shankar Experience with State of Bengal - (RealWorld/Virgin) Must be the music (club mix) - Joey Negro - (subliminal) Hour 3 Tribe Cut - Samuel L. Session (A Bastards Work is Never Done) - (Phont) Swing Crewz II - G. Flame & Mr. G - (moods & grooves) Idle Dragon - Audio Active - (Warner International) Emergency HosPOTal Dub - Audio Active - (Beat Records) Idle Dragon (Adrian Sherwood Takes A Drag On Mix) - Audio Active - (Beat Records) Kaw-Liga - The Residents - (East Side Digital) Kaw-Liga (Housey Mix) - The Residents - (Torso) Kaw-Liga (Prairiemix) - The Residents - (Torso) Kaw-Liga (Nightmare Mix II) - The Residents - (Torso) Mu-Ur - Coil - (Threshold House) cheers Chris Twomey http://www.1groovE.com Klublife New Music Show (live Sundays 6-9pm EST & posted for 1 week) http://www.tandemnews.com/music.html weekly CD review column for Tandem newspaper http://www.interlog.com/~costan/MNN.html Music News Network interview/review site # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) Pocket Calculator at eBay Date: 08 Mar 2000 06:17:05 -0800 (PST) Rare 3-track "Pocket Calculator" cassette single with unique yellow "calculator" case for sale on eBay, item #274260232. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) 'Pocket Calculator' at eBay Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:45:42 -0000 Rare 3-track "Pocket Calculator" cassette single with unique yellow "calculator" case for sale on eBay, item #274260232. This was released with a cardboard 'box' cover, like a cigarette carton, with the calculator image printed on the front. Because of the age and the cardboard material, mint ones are hard to find. Also at the time (1981) it was unusual to release singles in cassette format and I expect most record stores wouldn't have sold many (the single didn't exactly top the charts) or even stocked any. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000:I feel cheated!!! Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:39:24 -0000 I've just received my copy of the english Expo 2000 release cat CDEM562. The sleeve states that the CD is enhanced but mine contains just th 4 audio tracks. Have I got the wrong CD? Can anyone let me have the catalogue number of the CD with the video tracks? Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos website Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:29:20 -0500 At 01:40 PM 3/8/00 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:28:54 +0000 >From: "Klaus Zaepke" >Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos Website > > > R+F will become envious of such minimalism ;-) > >Especially if they find the same minimal style also at >http://www.electric-music.de... :-) If you view the page source, you'll find the text "Hier geht es weiter" in the no-frames section. A translation from Babelfish yields "Here it goes further." Any ideas? Do you suppose that Karl just bought up a few domain names so no one else could use them? . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Little Computer People (was: Re: (kw) Klublife New Music Show no Date: 09 Mar 2000 00:12:17 +0000 > Little Computer People (Karl Bartos remix) - Anthony Rother - (PSI 49 Net) I thought that "Little Computer People" is a Llorca track, and not by Anthony Rother? Does anyone know the exact discographic details for this Bartos remix? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: (kw) EXPO 2000 Discography? Date: 08 Mar 2000 10:10:32 -0500 I THINK I've nailed down all these versions of EXPO 2000, and the various releases. The one I'm selling on E-Bay, which claims to be CD KLANG 001 / 'Made In E.U.' is actually the THREE-track promo, featuring the following 3 tracks... 1) Klink Klang Mix 2002 (Radio Mix) 3:49 2) Kling Klang Mix 2000 (Radio Mix) 3:39 3) Kling Klang Mix 2001 (Radio Mix) 3:50 Here's the .JPG for the above... http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Neptune/5477/kraftexp.jpg ALL of these were new to this promo, and are not on the regular German CD, which has the following... 1) Radio Mix 3:35 2) Kling Klang Mix 2000 6:48 3) Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 4) Kling Klang Mix 2001 6:50 The regular U.K. release has the following... 1. Radio Mix 3:35 2. Kling Klang Mix 2000 6:48 3. Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 4. Kling Klang Mix 2001 3:50 and the European 2-track promo features... 1. Radio Mix 3:35 2. Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 THEREFORE, it would appear that the item I am selling has TWO exclusive tracks to it, those being... 1) Kling Klang Mix 2000 (Radio Mix) 3:39 2) Kling Klang Mix 2001 (Radio Mix) 3:50 That sound about right? Hope so, as then I can delete all my other e-mails concerning this. :) SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Join the brand, new TIMELY - ATLAS Mailing List on E-Groups at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ta/main.html * THE Web-site for BILL EVERETT, ALEX SCHOMBURG and SYD SHORES at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * STEVE DITKO, co-creator of Spider-Man, Mr. A, Dr. Strange at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * The Thompson Twins, Dave Stieb, Sarah McLachlan & Joe Sakic at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko37.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 Discography? Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:02:28 -0500 At 12:00 AM 3/9/00 GMT, you wrote: >Almost, but not quite - the 2000 edit & the radio mix are 2 of the same. >Thus the promo has 1 exclusive track, the 2002 edit. > >However, if rumours are correct, there are 2 different 2002 full mixes as >well, just to confuse you even more... > >r. How's THIS for screwed up? You are right, r., but in fact, the regular Radio Mix (3:35) and the Kling Klang 2000 (Radio Mix) 3:39 are both 3:37 in time, with 2 seconds coming before the start of the next track on both CDs. So BOTH times are wrong (I checked it on my CD Player). Ain't minutia grand? My E-Bay auction for that 3-Track E.U. Promo looks like the Dead Sea Scrolls since I've added TWO (!) follow-up description parts. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Join the brand, new TIMELY - ATLAS Mailing List on E-Groups at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ta/main.html * THE Web-site for BILL EVERETT, ALEX SCHOMBURG and SYD SHORES at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * STEVE DITKO, co-creator of Spider-Man, Mr. A, Dr. Strange at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * The Thompson Twins, Dave Stieb, Sarah McLachlan & Joe Sakic at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko37.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Willem" Subject: (kw) Anthony Rother/ Psi49net Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:46:37 -0400 Anthony Rother ( a german artist, the main producer behind the german electro old-new school scene) has covered as far as I know two Kraftwerk tracks: Numbers, with the name "nummern/computerwelt 2", as featured on "Space Night Vol IV, pt I", elektrolux records 1998 ( www.elektrolux.com ) and Trans Europe Express, named Trans Europa Express, on the label Psi49net ( www.members.xoom.com/psi49net ). Credits on both releases go to Hutter/Schneider/Bartos, and the tracks are basically the original song with a more pristine production and a more contemporary sounding rhythm ( which by the way sounds very classic indeed). As for Little Computer People, it´s another project of herr Rother, and the single Little Computer people is a remake of a track of 1979 of the same name, produced by Terry Lancaster recorder at TLC studios ( all the information is from the sleevenotes of Rother´s single, released in 1998, with a certain degree of success in the aforementioned old-new school clubs and events). Anthony Rother is only one of many producers of this new wave of electro, which derives straight from Kraftwerk´s music and image, but somehow I have never seen any comments on this new electro music that is coming out of Detroit, Den Haag, Leeds or anywhere in the planet where Kraftwerks influence and inspiration is not a museum thing but an everyday soundtrack. Greetings from Venezuela. WIllem # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Willem" Subject: (kw) RV: Correction on psi49net records Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:47:03 -0400 The actual link to psi49net is http://sr8.xoom.com/psi49net/ There in the news section is a mention of the Little Computer People song remixed by Karl Bartos. I believe this song hasn´t been released yet... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Desiderio Murcho" Subject: (kw) New full CD Date: 09 Mar 2000 09:18:54 -0000 Hello, I'm new to this list. Does anyone know when will Kraftwerk release the new full CD? It was schedulled for Jan, but it didn't happen. Maybe they're waiting for the concert in Hanover? Best, Desi filosofia@co.terravista.pt http://www.terravista.pt/Nazare/1339 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Wilson-Beales Subject: RE: (kw) New full CD Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:36:30 -0000 The Album isn't completed yet..... I've just heard the new album by einsturzende neubauten entitled "silence is Sexy" and I don't feel very well. You should check out the new album by Alan Wilder aka Recoil...now that is very, very stunning... ciao steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thomas m weibrecht Subject: Re: (kw) RV: Correction on psi49net records Date: 09 Mar 2000 09:44:02 -0500 > The actual link to psi49net is http://sr8.xoom.com/psi49net/ > > There in the news section is a mention of the Little Computer People > song > remixed by Karl Bartos. I believe this song hasn´t been released > yet... > its out on a 12"...quite derivative though...nothing to get too excited about... tom w np: the sound of cologne zwei ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) New full CD Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:16:20 -0700 Desiderio Murcho wrote: >Does anyone know when will Kraftwerk release the new full CD? >It was schedulled for Jan, but it didn't happen. >Maybe they're waiting for the concert in Hanover? EMI officials and Ralf himself said that KW will release a new CD this Millenium, but they didn't say by when. Per EXPO Officials, Kraftwerk will not perform live this year at all. Sorry to disappoint you Desiderio, welcome to the list by the way... Enrique n.p.: "Tribal Gathering" Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) kraftwerk.com update Date: 09 Mar 2000 17:56:10 +0100 (MET) kraftwerk.com was updated with an "EXPO 2001" page (flash version only). Klaus Zaepke -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken1 Telling Christensen" Subject: (kw) RE: new album Date: 09 Mar 2000 18:11:02 +0100 It has been announced from EMI/Medley Denmark, that the new album not = will be released the 1. April and has been taken of the release = schedule. Regards ken1@get2net.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) RE: new album Date: 09 Mar 2000 18:24:01 +0100 How many times this 1st of April joke will be made...? -- Remember when you computer gives an error, it's because: a handle can be de-referenced - > From: "Ken1 Telling Christensen" > Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:11:02 +0100 > To: > Subject: (kw) RE: new album > > > It has been announced from EMI/Medley Denmark, that the new album not will be > released the 1. April and has been taken of the release schedule. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) eBay cd's Date: 09 Mar 2000 10:42:41 -0800 (PST) Hi everyone, I have just put the following cd's up for sale at eBay: Heute Abend, Werke, The Remix, Acadamy Theatre, Kling Und Klang, Krafty Move (Tribute). These are original silver discs, not cdr's. They might not actually be listed yet, so just do a "seller list" search for "jandsnuckels@webtv.net" to find them. Cheers!!! Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) New full CD Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:44:55 +0100 Enrique Correa wrote: > EMI officials and Ralf himself said that KW will release a new CD this > Millenium, but they didn't say by when. This was clever. That gives him a tolerance of 100 years. Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Markowski Subject: Re: (kw) New full CD Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:53:53 -0500 On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 07:44:55PM +0100, Wess wrote: > > Enrique Correa wrote: > > EMI officials and Ralf himself said that KW will release a new CD this > > Millenium, but they didn't say by when. > > This was clever. That gives him a tolerance of 100 years. > > Gunnar No, Ralf is 10 times more clever than that. :-) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Desiderio Murcho" Subject: Re: (kw) New full CD Date: 09 Mar 2000 18:52:43 -0000 > > Enrique Correa wrote: > > EMI officials and Ralf himself said that KW will release a new CD this > > Millenium, but they didn't say by when. > > This was clever. That gives him a tolerance of 100 years. > > Gunnar I think it's more like... a 1000 years! Best, Desidério Murcho filosofia@co.terravista.pt http://www.terravista.pt/Nazare/1339 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: RE: (kw) New full CD Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:54:25 -0800 >I've just heard the new album by einsturzende neubauten entitled "silence is >Sexy" and I don't feel very well. You should check out the new album by Alan >Wilder aka Recoil...now that is very, very stunning... I haven't heard the new Neubauten album yet. Do you think it's not very good? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spectre Subject: (kw) Aphex Twin (OT) Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:57:45 -0500 Greetings all, I am just curious if anyone knows where I could download the "Melodies from Mars" mp3 files? I have track 1 and track 11, but the www.aphextwin.org server only has one file. Thanks, Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: code-7@mail.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Live 1981 Budapest Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:53:43 +0100 Hi! I have a concert record from 1981, Budapest, Hungary. It is in mp3 format (160Kbps/44KhZ) and 117M in size. I would happily share it with You and upload it to a relativly fast ftp server. Please give me tips and mail me! Code7 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Rundqvist Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk.com update (fwd) Date: 09 Mar 2000 20:12:13 +0100 (MET) Cool picture! (http://www.kraftwerk.de/images/expo2001.jpg) /Roboten On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > kraftwerk.com was updated with an "EXPO 2001" page (flash version only). > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Brega" Subject: (kw) WEB AKTIVITAET IS IN THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:03:40 PST What has happened to the most updated KRAFTWERK WEB SITE ? Has the http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/aktivitaet/ url changed ? Regarding EXPO 2001 update on www.kraftwerk.de,how is possible to download the sfw file ? I was thinking about Tribal,Tango and the other new song play on '97-98 Tour : why in your opinion they have not been released (at least in single format,as EXPO 2000),yet ? Maybe that they have decided to do the same thing as for the few Italian dates (it was 1990),to check new sounds or instruments (in that case for The Mix Tour) to be used on future tourdates in this or next year,when probably a new album should be released. I'm also looking for 1997-1998 concerts on VHS format,or in MPEG CD-ROM. Who would like to trade,please contact me to the following address: nicolabrega@libero.it Many thanks in advance AUF WIEDERSEN ALEX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Inactivity Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:05:38 +0000 Alex Brega wrote: > > What has happened to the most updated KRAFTWERK WEB SITE ? > Has the http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/aktivitaet/ url > changed ? Yes, I meant to ask too whether anyone knows anything about this. I currently have the FAQ pointing to this site as a prime news source, so if it's not going to return, I'd really like to know! Is anyone in contact with the Aktivitat crew? Spectre wrote: > I am just curious if anyone knows where I could download the "Melodies > from Mars" mp3 files? If it's any help, you can hear RealAudio files at www.joyrex.com. Mike Markowski wrote: >> This was clever. That gives him a tolerance of 100 years. >> >> Gunnar > > No, Ralf is 10 times more clever than that. :-) Not so clever, he has less than 10 months by my reckoning. ;-D K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) New full CD Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:15:07 +0100 Mike Markowski wrote: > No, Ralf is 10 times more clever than that. :-) Perhaps he wasn't, if he said "this millennium". THIS millennium actually hasn't finished yet. ;-) Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) WEB AKTIVITAET IS IN THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:09:10 +0100 Alex Brega wrote: >Regarding EXPO 2001 update on www.kraftwerk.de,how is possible to = download=20 >the sfw file ? Normally the swf file is found in your computer's temporary internet = file folder. Just do a search for *.swf in your file manager and you'll = find it. all the best, Glenn JarreArt www.itsahit.com/jarreart Emusic http://w3.to/_emusic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Markowski Subject: Re: (kw) New full CD Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:40:09 -0500 Ok, let's hope Ralf thinks more like you guys and less like me! Mike On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 02:15:07PM +0100, Wess wrote: > Mike Markowski wrote: > > > No, Ralf is 10 times more clever than that. :-) > > Perhaps he wasn't, if he said "this millennium". THIS millennium > actually hasn't finished yet. ;-) > > Gunnar On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 12:05:38PM +0000, Kevin Busby wrote: > > Mike Markowski wrote: > > >> This was clever. That gives him a tolerance of 100 years. > >> > >> Gunnar > > > > No, Ralf is 10 times more clever than that. :-) > > Not so clever, he has less than 10 months by my reckoning. ;-D > > K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Storey" Subject: (kw) Bleep & Booster Date: 11 Mar 2000 02:21:05 -0500 Have any Kraftwerk fans come across the excellent music of "Bleep & Booster" ? Very Kraftwerk sounding group from the UK. If you would like more info drop me a e-mail at cstorey@dingoblue.net.au Cheers Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spectre Subject: (kw) E2K Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:32:38 -0500 I was on Napster (an mp3 sharing program), and I found a song called expo2000(archeb v1.1 mix). Does anyone have any information on this, or is it just a homebrew remix? Chuck -- q: are you happy with your life? a: ask me on a good day. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 Discography? Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:31:13 +0100 Blakes Expo 2000 Discography seems to be very complete. I found 8 different versions lasting for about 38:00. Enough for a full CD?? - Would be the next level to minimalism! (btw. Electric Cafe has 6 tracks with about 36:00) Does anybody know if 'Klink Klang Mix 2002 (Radio Mix) 3:49' (I think it was an error in writing) is the video version or would it be the ninth track of the new album? If it is the same as on the video I would like to have a copy as MP3. Could somebody help me to get one easily? I have tried to record from tv but this is only mono and a little bit noisy. Dirk from Hamburg. > > ... CD KLANG 001 / 'Made In E.U.' is actually the > THREE-track promo ... > > 1) Klink Klang Mix 2002 (Radio Mix) 3:49 > 2) Kling Klang Mix 2000 (Radio Mix) 3:39 > 3) Kling Klang Mix 2001 (Radio Mix) 3:50 > > ... regular German CD ... > > 1) Radio Mix 3:35 > 2) Kling Klang Mix 2000 6:48 > 3) Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 > 4) Kling Klang Mix 2001 6:50 > > ... regular U.K. release ... > > 1. Radio Mix 3:35 > 2. Kling Klang Mix 2000 6:48 > 3. Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 > 4. Kling Klang Mix 2001 3:50 > > ... European 2-track promo ... > > 1. Radio Mix 3:35 > 2. Kling Klang Mix 2002 5:36 > > ... > SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. > ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) Aphex Twin (OT) Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:38:46 +0100 ftp://207.173.126.20 login: afextwin pasw: (sorry, i only know it's 6 chars) maybe you can find it in the archive of the mailing list -- I don't do .INI, .BAT, or .SYS files. I don't assign apps to files... I don't configure peripherals or networks before using them... I have a computer to do all that... I have a Macintosh. > I am just curious if anyone knows where I could download the "Melodies > from Mars" mp3 files? I have track 1 and track 11, but the > www.aphextwin.org server only has one file. > > Thanks, > Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: (kw) kraftwerk.com mysterious continues Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:02:05 +0100 I just tried http://www.kraftwerk.com/ but it seems to be down now. There seems also to be a change at http://www.kraftwerk.de/ - the language selection has gone... Greets from vienna, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) phone/SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk.com mysterious continues Date: 10 Mar 2000 16:14:27 -0500 Yes, but there was really no difference anyway, except for the section titles. the actual content under each section was all in English. --Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: (kw) The History of KLANG DJ 101 & 104 Date: 10 Mar 2000 23:35:24 -0500 At 09:31 PM 3/10/00 +0100, you wrote: > >Blakes Expo 2000 Discography seems to be very complete. >Dirk from Hamburg. Thanks Dirk. Not having been around this list for long, I'm interested to know what the deal is on two items I found in England. What is the history behind these two releases? Never knew about them until a couple of weeks ago? Are THESE the ones that RECORD COLLECTOR price guide lists as being worth 40 pounds? This is the 1997, 12" Promo featuring 'Trans Europe Express (Instru.)' and 'Numbers' by the German band, KRAFTWERK. The catalog # is 'Klang DJ 101'. The 12" Promo comes in a picture-less, black sleeve, and is copyrighted 1997..... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274675067 This is the 1997, 12" Promo featuring 'Home Computer' and 'It's More Fun To Compute' by the German band, KRAFTWERK. The catalog # is 'Klang DJ 104'. The 12" Promo comes in a picture-less, black sleeve, and is copyrighted 1997..... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274681820 SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Join the brand, new TIMELY - ATLAS Mailing List on E-Groups at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ta/main.html * THE Web-site for BILL EVERETT, ALEX SCHOMBURG and SYD SHORES at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * STEVE DITKO, co-creator of Spider-Man, Mr. A, Dr. Strange at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * The Thompson Twins, Dave Stieb, Sarah McLachlan & Joe Sakic at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko37.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk.com update (fwd) Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:11:51 -0800 VERY COOL!!!!! Martin Rundqvist wrote: > Cool picture! > (http://www.kraftwerk.de/images/expo2001.jpg) > > /Roboten > > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > > > > > kraftwerk.com was updated with an "EXPO 2001" page (flash version only). > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Daw" Subject: (kw) UK E2K Releases Date: 11 Mar 2000 15:05:57 -0000 Can somebody tell me what commercial (non-promo) Expo 2000 releases have come out in the UK? I have the enhanced CD (CDEM 562) and wondered if there was a vinyl 12 or another CD. If so can somebody please let me know the catalogue numbers and the track details. Thanks in advance... Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Klang DJ 101/104 Date: 11 Mar 2000 15:33:53 -0000 I'm replying to Blake's e-mail, but I thought others might be interested: In late spring 1997 Kraftwerk released a box set to coincide with their imminent appearance at the Tribal Gathering festival. Catalogued as KLANG BOX 101, it is a set of four 12" singles, each in identical white pic sleeves with robot motif (like you can see on the T-shirts on the Klingklang Konsum Produkt website: http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,deutsch,KRAFTWERK ). Each sleeve has separate Klang DJ numbers, 101=96104, and these 12'ers were also issued separately to the boxed package, although I have only ever come across them in their picture sleeves, not in plain ones. The recordings are the original analogue ones, not the 1991 Mix versions. About the boxed set: The box is printed black with a white robot motif and the Kraftwerk bitmap logo beneath. The back has a brief copyright/catalogue details in a block at the bottom edge. The outside of the box has not been laminated after printing, which means that they're very easily marked (ie devalued). Apparently only 200 were issued; a very limited number (possibly 10) come with black robot T-shirt and press release. KLANG BOX 101 is listed as the seventh rarest 1990s release in the UK, with valuations for mint quality ones with T-shirt reaching =A3400, although if you've got one (as I have) would you sell it? These shops have copies of all both the boxed set and the separate 12"s: http://eil.com/ Pretty good mail order-only service, their website also calculates foreign currency conversions and a few listed items have images to view. http://www.mveshops.co.uk/ Based in Notting Hill Gate, London, they also do a mail order service; but if you're able to get to London I'd recommend going down and browsing to check the goods out personally. They have a particular shop which only deals in rare/promo stuff.=20 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Music Notation Date: 26 Feb 2000 13:45:15 -0800 I was woundering if anyone could give me any info on where I can get hold of any Kraftwerk notation, would love to learn some of there melodies. Would be very greatfull for any help.. Thanks Mark. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) E2K Date: 11 Mar 2000 22:14:11 +0000 > I was on Napster (an mp3 sharing program), and I found a song called > expo2000(archeb v1.1 mix). Does anyone have any information on this, or > is it just a homebrew remix? Yes, homebrew. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) The History of KLANG DJ 101 & 104 Date: 11 Mar 2000 22:14:11 +0000 > found in England. What is the history behind these two > releases? Never knew about them until a couple of weeks > ago? Are THESE the ones that RECORD COLLECTOR price guide > lists as being worth 40 pounds? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274675067 > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274681820 No, the "Record Collector" price is for originals, while the copies at Ebay are counterfeit pressings (no sleeves, inferior labels). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO 2000 Discography? Date: 11 Mar 2000 22:14:11 +0000 > Blakes Expo 2000 Discography seems to be very complete. > I found 8 different versions lasting for about 38:00. A 9th version is included on a German EMI CD-R promo compilation (EMI VIP 46): Expo 2000 (Edit), 2:30" > Does anybody know if 'Klink Klang Mix 2002 (Radio Mix) 3:49' > (I think it was an error in writing) is the video version or would > it be the ninth track of the new album? It's the same as the video soundtrack. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 new album? Date: 11 Mar 2000 22:44:03 +0100 Last time I was only joking about the Expo2000 new album with nothing else on it, except Expo200x remixes, but here it is: On ebay/germany I found an Expo 2000 LP (yes, true: vinyl with 33 rpm). The tracks seems to be the same as on the german release of the maxi CD (direct info from the person who offers - no, that's not me): > Side 1: Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix-6.48 min > Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2001- 6.50 min > Side2: Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 - 5.36 min > Expo 2000 Radio Mix - 3.35 min The auction lasts till 14.03.2000 and is actually at 24 DEM (about 12 USD). http://www.ebay.de/static/auction/42/4225/422540/42254032.html So, hurry! Dirk from rainy Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000:Re I feel cheated Date: 12 Mar 2000 18:18:31 -0000 Thanks to Coen Rampen and Richard Marston for offering their help with this problem. I have now bought two copies of the single and checked the system requirements. The video files are either not there or my system simply refuses to see them. I will try on another PC just to check. Is anyone else having this problem- perhaps it's a faulty batch. When I emailed Martin Nutley at EMI he didn't even know it had clips on it. Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:21:39 -0000 Date: 12 Mar 2000 11:20:34 -0700 Here for the record is Martin Nutley's reply: Paul, As far as I am aware, this is NOT an "enhanced" CD (i.e., it does NOT contain a MPEG2 video) The sleeve/case paper-parts for "enhanced" CDs normally carry "notes" about the video portion and the usual relevant disclaimers. In whatever contents/track listing is given on the paper-parts any "video" track(s) is(are) clearly marked as such. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 UK Chart Position Date: 12 Mar 2000 23:33:40 +0200 Hello, Since no one else has noticed it yet, Expo 2000 hit no. 27 in the UK singles chart today. Check it out at http://www.dotmusic.com/charts/top75singles2.asp Earlier King Rollo wrote that: >To be eligible for the UK charts, a single generally >has to have 3 or less tracks and 20 or less minutes >of music. This fails the first criterion, as it has 4 >tracks (plus the enhanced material). This is not true. A single is not allowed to have more than four(!) tracks in order to chart, hence the editing of track 4 to fit into the 20 minute limit. Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juan Vega" Subject: RE: (kw) The Simpsons Date: 12 Mar 2000 19:12:03 -0300 Hola Pablo: Mi nombre es Juan y soy de Jujuy. Vi tu mensaje en el mailing list de Kw, acerca del capitulo de Los Simpson's donde nombran a Kraftwerk, yo pude ver dicho capitulo lo que no pude escuchar fue el tema que sonaba cuando el aleman se alejaba en su Mercedes Benz. Tu sabes cual era el tema? Chau Kraft-amigo Juan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: (kw) Electric cafe (edicion espanola) Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:46:11 +0100 Dear KW-fans I have quite a big collection of original KW records. One of the main items still lacking is the 'edicion espanola' of 'Electric cafe'. I am wondering how many people on this mailing list actually have this record (or have seen this record). I am also interested to know what the value is of this record. Thanks Ivo Peeters E-mail: ivo.peeters@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) The Simpsons Date: 13 Mar 2000 21:41:14 +0100 I don't think that Simpsons episode refers to Kraftwerk, if we're talking about "Burns verkaufen der Kraftwerk" or something. That episode is about that nice Mr. Burns selling his nuclear power plant to a German company. The German word "kraftwerk" happens to mean "power plant", but I think the relation to "our" Kraftwerk ends there. Rick Jansen > Mi nombre es Juan y soy de Jujuy. > Vi tu mensaje en el mailing list de Kw, acerca del capitulo de Los > Simpson's donde nombran a Kraftwerk, yo pude ver dicho capitulo lo que no > pude escuchar fue el tema que sonaba cuando el aleman se alejaba en su > Mercedes Benz. > Tu sabes cual era el tema? -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger" Subject: (kw) re: UK Chart Rules Date: 13 Mar 2000 22:45:15 +0200 Hello, These are the latest changes in chart rules for the singles chart, effective from July 6th, 1998: 1. Reduction of the total number of (different) tracks allowed onto one format from four to three. 2. Reduction of the total playing time allowed for a format that consists of more than one song from 25 to 20 minutes. 3. Revocation of the rule-exception allowing up to 40 minutes of mixes of the lead track. 4. Reduction of the minimum dealer price for CD singles from 2.43 to 1.79 pounds. However, the Expo 2000 single does not contain four different tracks. It contains four different mixes. Thereby it is eligible for the UK singles chart, as long as it is shorter than 20 minutes. Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) The Simpsons Date: 13 Mar 2000 13:56:05 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Rick Jansen wrote: > I don't think that Simpsons episode refers to Kraftwerk, if we're > talking about "Burns verkaufen der Kraftwerk" or something. > That episode is about that nice Mr. Burns selling his nuclear > power plant to a German company. The German word "kraftwerk" > happens to mean "power plant", but I think the relation to "our" > Kraftwerk ends there. I believe the other person may have been referring to the "Curse of the Flying Hellfish" episode, in which an art collector type excuses himself because he "has to get back to Dusseldorf to see Kraftwerk perform". He then drives off in a convertible playing DJ Keoki's "Caterpillar", which sounds somewhat KW-ish. I may have some of the details (like the name of the epsiode) wrong, because it's been a long time since I saw it. you should be able to find it by searching the Simpsons episode capsules for Kraftwerk though. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) The Simpsons Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:00:03 -0800 >I believe the other person may have been referring to the "Curse of the >Flying Hellfish" episode, in which an art collector type excuses himself >because he "has to get back to Dusseldorf to see Kraftwerk perform". He >then drives off in a convertible playing DJ Keoki's "Caterpillar", which >sounds somewhat KW-ish. The German guy says, "I have to be back in Stutgard in time to see Kraftwerk at the Dancetorium", if I remember correctly. He definitely uses the word "dancetorium". heehee. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) (Off Topic) The Japanese Connection Date: 13 Mar 2000 15:54:16 -0700 On a recent interview Ryuichi Sakamoto gave to John Diliberto, he talks about YMO and Kraftwerk. Here's an excerpt: [...] In 1978, he (RS) formed the techno-pop group Yellow Magic Orchestra. But like much of Japanese pop, YMO also started as an imitation. "We were Japanese, so we were imitating Kraftwerk", Sakamoto concedes. "But we were too independent. So we were not like Kraftwerk, very different." [...] Wanna have some more Sakamoto? Check out Tower Record's current issue of "Pulse" (the one with Robert Smith on the cover) page 12 & 13. Sayonara, Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pablo Pettis Subject: Re: (kw) The Simpsons Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:16:35 -0300 > I don't think that Simpsons episode refers to Kraftwerk, if we're > talking about "Burns verkaufen der Kraftwerk" or something. > That episode is about that nice Mr. Burns selling his nuclear > power plant to a German company. The German word "kraftwerk" > happens to mean "power plant", but I think the relation to "our" > Kraftwerk ends there. No no, anyway I understand what you mean, but you're talking about another episode. The one we we're talking about is one that Homer's father and Mr. Burns fight for a treasure they rescue from the bottom of the sea that finally it resulted to be owned but a German guy that leaves with the treasure saying something like "hurry up! I must get to see Kraftwerk's concert". -- Pablo Luis Pettis email: PabloPettis@usa.net Buenos Aires, Argentina. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: richard.poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) The Simpsons Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:14:19 -0800 Rick Jansen wrote I don't think that Simpsons episode refers to Kraftwerk, if we're talking about "Burns verkaufen der Kraftwerk" or something. That episode is about that nice Mr. Burns selling his nuclear power plant to a German company. The German word "kraftwerk" happens to mean "power plant", but I think the relation to "our" Kraftwerk ends there. Don't take offence Rick, but if you had read the original message I posted, you will actually see that I specifically wasn't referring to "Burns verkaufen der Kraftwerk" . That said, seeing as I dump most of the mailings straight into the trash without reading them, then you are excused! ;-) Rich It's official Expo 2000 is crap # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Enough Simpsons / Expo 2000 Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:55:21 +0000 One of many: > I may have some of the details (like the name of the epsiode) wrong, > because it's been a long time since I saw it. you should be able to find > it by searching the Simpsons episode capsules for Kraftwerk though. Or you could just all trouble to look at the FAQ - this Simpsons stuff has been in there for a long time, as I've pointed out previously. It even links to an archive of the relevant episodes!! Anyway... I finally bought 'Expo 2000'. There's no getting away from it. This is a dull song, and no amount of production skill can hide it. Nevertheless, I enjoyed the spacialisation and the menacing voices on the '2002' mix (particularly when heard over headphones). The single does seem to appeal to a lot of people who previously were not big fans of Kraftwerk - or perhaps were still not properly aware of their music. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Cheap sunglasses Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:34:19 -0700 So... what's up with those shades? Let's investigate the reason why they decided to semi-cover the robots faces with some cool sunglasses, shall we? Unless you guys want to keep the Simpson's topic a bit longer... I didn't think so... So here it goes... The robots wear sunglasses because: 1. They want to look a bit younger and happening so they picked shades instead of tattoos / ear rings. 2. They want to stay away from those (very dangerous) UV rays. 3. They want to hide those huge wrinkles. 4. Why not? Plenty of others musicians wore them before (way b-4, as a matter of fact) 5. Narcissism anyone? 6. All of the above (read: to make the robots look more human like) Whatever the reason might be, I'm just glad they didn't have this idea back when Wolfgang and Karl (almost chisel shaped faces) were part of the fab-four... Just imagine the cover of TEE with our heroes wearing some Ray Ban's ;-) Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Wilson-Beales Subject: (kw) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:39:20 -0000 Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:41:16 -0700 I just wanted to let the "circle" know of a website that you will all be interested. Please click onto it immediately and all your dreams will come true. It is quite simply... www.getalife.com Thankyou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Get a new list Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:15:10 -0700 Steven Wilson-Beales wrote: >I just wanted to let the "circle" know of a website that you will all be >interested. Please click onto it immediately and all your dreams will >come true. >It is quite simply... >www.getalife.com Uh... what's all that negative vibe going on? Whose part of that "circle" anyway? Are you sure that was the correct address for our dreams to come true? Damn, I thought it was playboy.com If you are not up to discussing, reading or even sharing your thoughts about KW, perhaps you should try this one for us... It's quite simple: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/email-list.html#unsubscribe Thanks a lot, pal Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Rusbridge" Subject: (kw) The actual Expo 2000 Date: 14 Mar 2000 20:31:34 -0000 Anyone actually thought about going to the Expo2000 in Germany! Any werkers what to meet there on one particular day? Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Cheap sunglasses Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:00:43 +0100 Well, I don't think they're particularly cheap sunglasses, they look like spray painted Oakley sunglasses. http://www.oakley.com/ I guess it's not easy to have life-like robots with motionless eyes. The new robot heads are pretty life-like by the way, they COULD be the actual thing, which would mean a new album may take some time, about the time it takes to grow a new body. I stand corrected about the Simpsons. (Do look out for "Futurama", a series by the same makers, the Beasty Boys already featured, I'm expecting a Kraftwerk reference any moment now.) Rick Jansen Enrique Correa wrote: > > So... what's up with those shades? > Let's investigate the reason why they decided to semi-cover the robots faces > with some cool sunglasses, shall we? Unless you guys want to keep the > Simpson's topic a bit longer... I didn't think so... -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Expo 2000" NME Review Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:12:11 +0000 From http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/singles110300.html : Kraftwerk Expo 2000 (EMI) Written for the opening of the Expo 2000 World Fair which begins in Hanover in June, the sentimental old fools, 'Expo 2000' explores the relationship between man, nature and technology as far as I can make out, by saying, "Man, nature, technology" a few times. Quite funny and everything, but you really have to wonder if there's really much more to Kraftwerk's allegedly penetrating insight than that, especially when it's not exactly backed up by much of a tune. If someone was to write a song called 'NME' and it just went, "News/Post-rock/More adverts for Campag Velocet" you wouldn't really think that they'd got completely to the bottom of things, would you? Well, would you? Kraftwerk: they do not tell you the answer. They ask you a question, and then dress up like robots. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Kevin Lux demos on Doepfer site Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:08:41 -0000 browsing the Doepfer site I came across Kevin's demos for the company. Worth checking out in all there Kraftwerkian splendour http://www.doepfer.com/home_e.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Rusbridge" Subject: (kw) Re: Cheap Sunglasses Date: 14 Mar 2000 20:32:22 -0000 They look like Oakley's to me, not Ray-Ban's. What ever they are they ain't gonna be cheap! Jim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: (kw) OT : New DUBSTAR Mailing List Date: 15 Mar 2000 02:06:16 -0500 Hey all. I've started up a DUBSTAR mailing list on ONELIST, the sign-up page of which can be found here... http://www.onelist.com/group/dubstar It is my hope that people will join; it is my intent to publicize the list far and wide, so that the band will receive their rightful due of promotion for the upcoming album, and give a place to talk about it in great volume. ONELIST has an easy sign-up policy, allowing for far greater ease of same, as well as accessibility. I have a few sites with which I will publicize the site's existence; sites that draw over 100 people a day. I'll also be publicizing it on the various mailing lists I'm on, as any time I have mentioned the existence of a DUBSTAR mailing list, plenty of people have e-mailed me about how to sign up. I hope to see everyone there. It's going to be a great DUBSTAR year and it will be fun to watch even more people fall under Dubstar's spell. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * Join the brand, new TIMELY - ATLAS Mailing List on E-Groups at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ta/main.html * THE Web-site for BILL EVERETT, ALEX SCHOMBURG and SYD SHORES at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ess.html * STEVE DITKO, co-creator of Spider-Man, Mr. A, Dr. Strange at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html * The Thompson Twins, Dave Stieb, Sarah McLachlan & Joe Sakic at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko37.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Forget the sunglasses... Date: 15 Mar 2000 10:34:00 -0000 ...here's something a little more interesting. Wolfgang Fl=FCr says that his book Ich war ein Roboter (I was a Robot), with 120 new pages* of text, will be coming out in England in the Autumn or Winter.=20 *By pages I assume he meant author manuscript, rather than book typeset ones. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Hancock's Half Ralph Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:08:07 +0000 Rick Jansen wrote: > The new robot heads are pretty life-like by the way, they COULD be the > actual thing, which would mean a new album may take some time, about the > time it takes to grow a new body. Weel, they have the torso, but no legs. I think RoboRalf at least should have rotating legs. Hang on, remember the video for Herbie Hancock's 'Rock It'? Imagine Kraftwerk's robots with those legs. It would look like an automated 'Riverdance'. Klaus Zaepke wrote: > From http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/singles110300.html : > it's not > exactly backed up by much of a tune. Ralf & Florian seem far more interested by production and timbre than melody and rhythm. I suspect that if they could leave their hall of mirrors and move on from the legacy of the "old" Kraftwerk their continuing creativity would be far more apparent. > Kraftwerk: they do not tell you the answer. They ask > you a question, and then dress up like robots. :-D Really Kraftwerk have moved on from this. They now even refuse to ask the questions, other than a Zen-like "?". What is the sound of one robot hitting a drum pad? Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Cheap sunglasses Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:18:52 -0800 >The robots wear sunglasses because: >2. They want to stay away from those (very dangerous) UV rays. I think there may be some truth to that one. Their green wireframe-grid suits are lit using blacklights, which emit ultraviolet light. UV lights also make it very hard to see when they're pointed right at you... Vision becomes very hazy and undefined. So perhaps they wear the glasses in the interest of occular health, or maybe just so they can see their instruments! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) OT (TERRE THAEMLITZ) Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:43:44 -0700 "Replicas Rubato" is the name of the latest Terre "Die Roboter Rubato" Thaemlitz CD. Consists of piano interpretations of Gary Numan titles, and it was released on August 1999. For pictures and *more* go to: http://www.comatonse.com/thaemlitz/index.html Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KL Subject: (kw) Doepfer Demo Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:56:31 -0800 (PST) >Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:08:41 -0000 >From: "Paul Martland" >Subject: (kw) Kevin Lux demos on Doepfer site >browsing the Doepfer site I came across Kevin's demos >for the company. >Worth checking out in all there Kraftwerkian splendour Thank you for the compliment, I appreciate it. Now what if any, interest is there in full blown songs based from these simple projects? You may find "bUbL" interesting as it is in the same constructed style. [audio page on my official site] The official Kevin Lux internet radio station has the Doepfer demonstrations on the playlist as well. [radio link on main site] I may be doing some more demonstrations for Doepfer, as I have a good working relationship with them at this time. It all revolves around the interest for such projects. Thank you for your interest and peace/prosperity to all. Keep spreading the word. Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.com http://www.kevinlux.com/KW.htm <-- Kraftwerk covers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: (kw) Fidget - Living On Video Date: 15 Mar 2000 23:37:07 +0100 In the video of Fidget's new version of the synth-pop hit Living on video by Trans X there are four or five black-dressed, robotic guys, guess who they are supposed to be :-), especially the drummer is cool. I suggest you watch the video, they'll probably have it on mtv by now. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcello Di Sante" Subject: (kw) Re: No kidding, just misunderstanding Date: 16 Mar 2000 08:21:50 +0100 I think it's time from apologies, isn't it ? When i speak about <> KW-sound and compare it with other electronic stuffs, i only think about the material R&F produced from <> to <> putting the older albums aside ... This is because it is natural for me to think that the world of music think about our guys keeping <>, <> , <> and similar things in mind rather than remembering of <>. But of course i could be wrong ... SO <> idea of KW-sound is far from ENO (B.T.W., maximum respect to him !!!) & Ambient music. PEACE, NOW ? P. BOY from Italy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: (kw) OT : www.boredwithtoday.com Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:16:30 -0500 Hey you Crazy Kids. Blake in Toronto here. Another Off-Topic post to present to you the debut our band's brand new web-site... http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ Yes, thrill to the exciting new sound that is BWT on our new site, which features all the goodies (and more) you would come to expect, plus sound files to listen to four of our tunes. You can listen to nice quality Real Audio samples of our tunes, and then download the entire song, if you so choose, in the MP3 format. I tend to believe our songs would appeal to the sensibilities of people on this list. No jangly guitar/grunge songs here. We'll be releasing a new double A-sided Internet single in late April, followed by live shows in the late Spring, and an album in the late Summer. We are hoping to do this all independently from our home base in Toronto. We have been to enough music industry schmoosh fests to know being part of some big conglomerate that regards music PURELY as product to be moved is something in which we have no interest in participating. In that indie vein, we hope you all with support us, but we hope the quality of the music will be enough to earn your interest. If you have time to listen to the MP3s, feel free to let us know what you think. Thanks for listening. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) Cheap sunglasses Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:30:26 +0100 Rick Jansen schrieb: > Well, I don't think they're particularly cheap sunglasses, they look like > spray painted Oakley sunglasses. http://www.oakley.com/ > I guess it's not easy to have life-like robots with motionless eyes. > The new robot heads are pretty life-like by the way, they COULD be the > actual thing, which would mean a new album may take some time, about the > time it takes to grow a new body. They could be Oakly/but they could also be RayBan. Anyway. I just watched the "Expo 2000" live performance in TOPT very carefully and you can also see it at kraftwerk.de "Expo 2001": Henning's frame of the sunglasses is scatched a bit on the left side - seems Kraftwerk's perfectionism has gone... Greets from vienna, Georgie -- * "Synthetic electronic sounds, industrial rhythms all around..." * * Heute Abend aus Deutschland: Die Mensch Maschine - KRAFTWERK * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) phone/SMS: +436765621850 * * ICQ: 53829477 http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Cheap sunglasses Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:42:52 +0100 Georg Jajus wrote: > I just watched the "Expo 2000" live performance in TOPT very carefully and you can > also see it at kraftwerk.de "Expo 2001": > Henning's frame of the sunglasses is scatched a bit on the left side - seems > Kraftwerk's perfectionism has gone... Rrreally???! I'll have to scratch mine too! Do you think you could post a drawing of the exact layout of the scratches?? Thanks! Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nsw" Subject: Re: (kw) Forget the sunglasses... Date: 16 Mar 2000 16:47:30 -0500 Hello > ...here's something a little more interesting. > > Wolfgang Fl=FCr says that his book Ich war ein Roboter (I was a Robot),= with > 120 new pages* of text, will be coming out in England in the Autumn or > Winter. Does anyone know if this will be an English translation or not? __Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Forget the sunglasses... Date: 16 Mar 2000 14:33:00 -0800 >> Wolfgang Fl=B8r says that his book Ich war ein Roboter (I was a Robot), w= ith >> 120 new pages* of text, will be coming out in England in the Autumn or >> Winter. > > >Does anyone know if this will be an English translation or not? My guess would be "yes," unless there's a large demand for German-language texts in England. :> ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Author event? Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:49:59 -0000 I just found this snippet of info on the web; apologies to anyone who already knows this.=20 W. Fl=FCr ex-Kraftwerk reads and tells stories at the CENTRALSTATION=0Din D= armstadt/Germany, Saturday 03.June 2000.=20 I suppose this is some kind of author reading event, so one for German speakers then. If I find further details I'll post this as well. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Forget the sunglasses... Date: 17 Mar 2000 17:22:05 +0000 Rick Jansen wrote: > Rrreally???! I'll have to scratch mine too! Do you think you could > post a drawing of the exact layout of the scratches?? Thanks! :-D & Jason Polland wrote: >> Does anyone know if this will be an English translation or not? > > My guess would be "yes," unless there's a large demand for > German-language texts in England. :> :-D I note an outbeak of needless sarcasm (TM) and irony on this list. Hurrah! There's hope for the list yet! BTW, all these old Krautrockers are coming back... Ash Ra Tempel (inc. Goettsching and Schulze) play London in a couple of weeks. Krautrock's time has come again, and those Kraftwerk boys could go far. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:31:10 -0000 Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:32:27 -0700 Kevin B wrote: BTW, all these old Krautrockers are coming back... Ash Ra Tempel (inc. Goettsching and Schulze) play London in a couple of weeks.=20 I remember seeing Klaus Schulze play live in Coventry Cathedral a few years ago; he basically palyed a duet together with a massive thunder storm raging outside =96 amazing. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spectre Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:31:10 -0000 Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:46:08 -0500 Speaking of Krautrockers, has anyone heard "Esperanza" by Mike Rother? I bought the double LP then ordered the CD, I recommend it to anyone who likes ambient Krautrock...beautiful stuff. Cheers, Chuck Kevin B wrote: >BTW, all these old Krautrockers are coming back... Ash Ra > Tempel (inc. > Goettsching and Schulze) play London in a couple of weeks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) new video? Date: 18 Mar 2000 16:48:17 -0000 Hi co-Werkers,=0D=0DI just found a website which has for sale a Kraftwerk V= HS (PAL) format=0Dvideo called 'Mix'(cat. number MVP9912943). This site onl= y sells=0Dofficial stuff, not bootlegs, so I wonder what it could be? I don= 't=0Dthink it's an incorrect listing, as 'The Mix' is also listed under the= =0DCDs with a diffrent catalogue number and price.=0D=0DAs it was only =A31= 0 I've already ordered one, so I will let you know=0Dwhat it's like when it= arrives.=0D=0DOh, it's at: http://www.dotmusic.com/=0DDo a search for 'kra= ftwerk' in the blue 'search and shop' box and wait=0Dfor the database to li= st the items (it can be rather slow). ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) TP site reopen Date: 18 Mar 2000 20:45:24 +0100 Hi, My FTP site with lots of KW rare stuff is now reopen For afew days, there is still no ratio & full access for anonymous users but this wil change afterward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) my FTP site (I forgot the address) Date: 18 Mar 2000 20:46:08 +0100 Hi, So, it's : lacava.dynip.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) (KW) teaching children Date: 19 Mar 2000 01:13:23 PST I have a friend who is a teacher and she let her pupils, 8-9 year old,=20 listen to Man-Machine and draw pictures about space. Many of them liked t= he=20 music a lot and one girl was totally fascinated by the fact that it sound= ed=20 so different in the left and right speaker. /Andr=E9as ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) (KW) teaching children Date: 19 Mar 2000 19:50:54 +0100 Yes, I believe that KRAFTWERK have a big effect on children. I remember my first experience, when I was 4 years old and saw KRAFTWERK for the first time on TV. I'm still infected by and it's more than 20 years ago. When I visited the Haus der Geschichte in Bonn, it was funny to see the children watching this four mysterious figures behind glass. "Mummy, look, this men have such thin arms!" (meant the robots on the video :-) One boy stood very close to the speakers with his ears and listened carefully to "The Robots". BTW: not the promo video was shown but the video for the live show (version 98) Gunnar Andréas Hagström wrote: > > I have a friend who is a teacher and she let her pupils, 8-9 year old, > listen to Man-Machine and draw pictures about space. Many of them liked the > music a lot and one girl was totally fascinated by the fact that it sounded > so different in the left and right speaker. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Irrelevant URL Date: 20 Mar 2000 13:12:38 +0000 http://www.localaccess.com/kraftwerk/ What the hell are those mutts in the logo up to? Bucket of cold water please! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) RE: Enough Simpsons Date: 19 Mar 2000 11:57:27 +0100 Quoted from http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F19.html Benjamin Robinson says, "Kraftwerk was (is?) a West German [now in one piece --ed] synth-pop band from the 80's. I don't remember their being big in the U.S., but they supposedly inspired other Europop bands like Depeche Mode. Trivia bit of the day: remember "Cuckoo's Egg," about a group of German system crackers? Kraftwerk was the favorite band of one of their members." End of quote. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) CDR's Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:21:42 -0700 Since I don't have a CD burner, and I can only buy so many boots and rare mixes without going broke, here's an idea for trade among us. There's no money involved. The trade = One CDR for Two blanks 1. For each CDR, we'll send two blank CDR's. 2. We'll also send a large Stamped Addressed Envelope for the return of the recorded CDR's How about it? Now is up to you "CD burner / owner of rare KW stuff" guys, to decide if it's worth it or not. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephanie and Scott Richards Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:52:53 -0800 Hello kraftwerkians, Does anyone know anything about the german band The Mobile Homes? Are they similar to the kraftwerk sound? Tried UBL and other searches but no luck. Thanks for any help in advance. Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bob hill Subject: (kw) First post Date: 20 Mar 2000 18:00:10 -0800 Hello everyone! I am a newbie to the list although I have been reading your posts for a few weeks wondering what subject I could feel competent commenting on. So I introduce myself by way of remarking on Enrique's post. The idea of sharing rare\bootleg tracks without the exchange of money is a superb one. Though I have only had them for a few months, I have "hundreds" of megs of alternate versions/ home brew mixes of various quality and live recordings (most of which the location and date are available). I got these for free, less my on-line fee and time spent searching, and would love to share them with the same kind of people that would subscribe to this mail list. The problem is how ? I do not own a CD-burner either. I also do not wish to make one penny on this. Just getting more and different "musica robotica" to listen to is good enough. Thanks for reading this long post. Bob in San Mateo, Califronia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 21 Mar 2000 04:16:33 +0200 On 21-Mar-00 A.D., Stephanie and Scott Richards carved the following runes about "(kw) Mobile Homes": > Does anyone know anything about the german band The Mobile Homes? Are > they similar to the kraftwerk sound? Tried UBL and other searches but > no luck. Thanks for any help in advance. It's a Swedish band and I don't think they don't sound anything like Kraftwerk (although Karl Bartos produced an album fro them IIRC). They have an official home page at http://hem.passagen.se/nik95maj/mobile/index.htm . There are also some MPEG-audio samples there. -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: D Subject: Re: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 20 Mar 2000 19:10:28 -0800 (PST) --- Stephanie and Scott Richards wrote: > > Hello kraftwerkians, > > Does anyone know anything about the german band The > Mobile Homes? Are > they similar to the kraftwerk sound? Tried UBL and > other searches but > no luck. Thanks for any help in advance. > > Scott > here's the homepage: http://hem.passagen.se/nik95maj/mobile/index.htm dave rout toronto __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) xelius Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:04:18 +0100 Hi Werkers , I'm new in the list. My nick name's Xelius. I'm 34 , and a fan of KwK from 1978 . I saw them on a TV show ( probabily the Gondola d'oro in Venice ) on Italian 1st channel. I remind Kwk on stage playing ' The Robots ' single 45 version, in their red shirts , black ties and trousers (Flur had leather black ones ) and white shoes . The stage exhibited several parts of their instrumentation. >From the right to the left : Florian whit his "Zauberflote" on a stand , had something like a Sehnneiser vocoder ( in grey version ?) on his right . Flur was drumming on the E-drum set ,having 2 devices behind himself into a rack . On the top of the rack was a big grey chronometer. Karl was playing a keyboard ( it seems a Moog Prodigy ) , whit robotic gesture . Ralf kept his hands on a keyboard ( I cannot identify it ) and behind him there was a modular system that I'm not able to recognize . All the song was sung by Florian vocoded voice into a Sehnneiser mic vired into the vocoder ,except the russian phrases sung by Ralf into a mic whit a well exhibited elastic suspension. They made the only moves it occours to play , and their gaze fixed . In front of each one: the neon names . I try to do some research of the video document of that evening show , but I've not results at now. I saved a good photo of that show , cutted out from an italian TV magazine. I hope to will be able to make a JPG and post it by e-mail if someone interested. I' m a technician and a musician, tuned into KwK music philosophy and Kling-Klang equipement related informations. -Evolution not rEvolution - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Plasmic1@aol.com Subject: (kw) High-Tech Walden Pond Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:44:31 EST Have ya'll ever heard VHSorBETA? www.vhsorbeta.com Microchips and Pink Flamingos, Space Daddy 9000 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Niklas Wejedal" Subject: (kw) re: the mobile homes Date: 21 Mar 2000 09:10:51 PST Hi everyone out there in Computerworld! About The Mobile Homes: The band formed in 1984 in Stockholm, Sweden as a typical synthpop band.=20 Main influences must have been Depeche Mode, Kraftwerk and similar bands.= =20 1986, their debut single "Don=B4t give it up" was released and this tune=20 sounds a bit more Erasure-esque than the following releases. A few single= s=20 was released the years after an in 1990 the first LP "Hurt" was released.= =20 Since then some more LP:s was released, each sounding more and more like = DM.=20 Their latest self-titeled CD, however was not like that at all, it is rea= lly=20 a big disappointment for everyone who is in to synthpop; it is guitarbase= d,=20 typically swedish boring so-called pop.... No thank you! A swedish record label named Memento Materia decided to release a=20 compilation with all the early singles and some more, like a best-of call= ed=20 "There is no place like away" and it=B4s a good way to get to know TMH. B= uy=20 it! By the way, after serching like crazy for ten years me and my twinbrother= =20 now has got all the early singles! They are super-rare even here in Swede= n,=20 and for some time we did=B4nt believe that we ever would find them! We where actually members in the official TMH fan club, and went to sever= al=20 TMH gigs in Gothenburg. To conclude: if you like the DM sound of the late 80:s you will love TMH! Speaking of childrens reaction to KW, our baby sister was KW-fan #1 back = in=20 1991, at the age of two! We was=B4nt allowed to play anything at all exce= pt=20 The Robots -91! After some time she accepted Just Can=B4t Get Enough as w= ell,=20 but nothing else! On the bootleg "Sch=F6ne Neue Welt" there is a track called "Telefonemix"= =20 which includes sampels from other artists than KW, such as DM, Nitzer Ebb= =20 and D.A.F. Anyone who knows what the other stuff is? I really want to know, because some of it is to good not to buy... Is there anyone who knows anything about a live bootleg called "Central=20 Passage" from 1981? It would be nice to know the background story on that= =20 one. Electronically Yours Niklas & Johan Wejedal Stockholm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mats.kadmark@liber.se Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk/Schmitz Reichel + Partner Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:27:26 +0100 Hi, If you do a search for www.kraftwerk.com at www.checkdomain.com, you can see that the the owners of the site now call themselves: "Kraftwerk/Schmitz Reichel + Partner", I think they had an other name before, and according to checkdomain, this info was registered just a few weeks ago.... Mats http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: (kw) Numbers lyrics Date: 22 Mar 2000 15:58:26 GMT Hi guys, A simple question: In Numbers, what are the languages at the end of the song (on the normal Computer World CD)? It sounds like Japanese and then maybe French? Zamir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: FW: (kw) Numbers lyrics Date: 22 Mar 2000 17:32:10 -0000 Romulus Giovanni wrote: In Numbers, what are the languages at the end of the > song (on the normal Computer World CD)? It sounds like Japanese and then > maybe French? > > > They are: Japanese (1-4) & Russian (1-3) ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Following on from my earlier e-mail Date: 22 Mar 2000 17:47:41 -0000 On 'Numbers' Kraftwerk use "shi", the Japanese word for four. But "shi" also has an alternative meaning in Japanese -- death -- and so this is usually replaced with an alternative word for four: "yon". But then again, maybe robots aren't superstitious... ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Numbers lyrics Date: 22 Mar 2000 19:13:24 -0600 Romulus Giovanni wrote: > Hi guys, > A simple question: In Numbers, what are the languages at the end of the > song (on the normal Computer World CD)? It sounds like Japanese and then > maybe French? [ just phoenetic here ] Eech, Nee, San, Chee (Japanese) Odin, Twa, Tree (Russian) The stuff at the end of Computer World..2 is in German. You hear the "tausend" (thousand) every once in a while Uno, Duo, Tre, Quatro (Spanish) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sarahgri@interlog.com Subject: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:31:23 -0500 Hi! I'm a new member to this list - a 17-year-old from Toronto. My favourite groups are Kraftwerk (obviously) and the Pet Shop Boys. I like both equally, though some days I might prefer one to the other. Anyway, enough intro-babble... There's a few things I wanted to mention/ask quickly. One - about the Japanese lyrics in 'Numbers' - the computer mispronounces the Japanese word for 1 ("Ichi" ends up sounding like "Ich"). Two - Ralf Hutter is a damn sexy man - I love the pictures of him in 'Kraftwerk: Man Machine, & Music', him in the leather jacket and at the art gallery beside the robot sculpture - delicious! And three - has anyone ever thought that the Pet Shop Boys' red-and-white dunce caps from the 'Can You Forgine Her?' video might have been a nod at Kraftwerk's famous striped road cone? Kling Klang! -Sarah :-) PS... Am I the youngest person on this list? ____________________________________________________________________________ __ _ //\\/__ \ \ \_ //__\\ /\\/\ // \ /__\\ \ /___ / \ / / # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephanie and Scott Richards Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk & teaching children Date: 22 Mar 2000 22:18:59 -0800 In case no one on the list knows-there is an 3 cd set on the basta label by Raymond Scott that is developmental music for babys. It is describes as "baby kraftwerk melodies" and it is quite interesting. They were originally recorded in the 60's. Each disc is for a different age group (0-6 months, 6months-1 year, etc). I picked it up before our first born arrived and although I played the first disc for him early on he seems to enjoy "The Mix" more (especially at dinnertime when he bops his head to Pocket Calculator). Plus he can count to 4 in numerous languages ;) s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:41:37 -0700 (MST) On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 sarahgri@interlog.com wrote: > -Sarah :-) Welcome to the list. (And a belated welcome to the fella who joined up last week.) > PS... Am I the youngest person on this list? Dunno, but you're one of very few females (or people who claim to be female, since nobody can tell). It's reassuring to know that someone of a later generation than myself knows that Kraftwerk exists. I get enough uncomprehending stares from my own age group. :) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) (KW) japanese covers Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:17:41 PST Just heard some tunes from a japanese compilation album with=20 Kraftwerk-covers. Artist like Hikashu, Nakano, Buffalo Daughter and=20 Matsumae. With tunes like the model, Tanzmusik, Atem and Autobahn etc. Have you heard it? Do you have any info about it? /Andr=E9as ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ConnectFree" Subject: RE: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:52:39 -0000 Hello kraftwerkians, Does anyone know anything about the german band The Mobile Homes? Are they similar to the kraftwerk sound? Tried UBL and other searches but no luck. Thanks for any help in advance. Scott Yes, they drive slowly auf der Autobahn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:08:36 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 8:31 PM > > Hi! > > I'm a new member to this list - a 17-year-old from Toronto. My favourite > groups are Kraftwerk (obviously) and the Pet Shop Boys. I like both > equally, though some days I might prefer one to the other. Anyway, enough > intro-babble... Welcome Sarah! I'm not the one to answer your question about being the youngest, but I wanted to say hello/welcome and be the first to say glad to have you on the list.. Jim J. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spectre Subject: Re: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 22 Mar 2000 23:08:25 -0500 Hi Sarah, and welcome to the list, I hope you enjoy reading it. > I'm a new member to this list - a 17-year-old from Toronto. My favourite > groups are Kraftwerk (obviously) and the Pet Shop Boys. I like both > equally, though some days I might prefer one to the other. Anyway, enough > intro-babble... I dunno about the if you are the youngest either. I'm 23 so there are some "younger" fans out here. :) > PS... Am I the youngest person on this list? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Withers Subject: (kw) The Big Lobowski Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:01:04 -0500 Hello, I just bought the DVD of The Big Lobowski. Undeniably a Kraftwerk reference there. :) Kind regards -- Jerry Withers SAP SD Consultant Only Amiga makes it possible! ICQ: 35448587 http://www.pompano.net/~amiga Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:20:05 +0100 One question out of the list: does anyone know any place in the web where I could find rare stuff (MP3?) of early TANGERINE DREAM (e.g. Ultima Thule, Lady Greengrass, Daydream / Moorland etc.). I would appreciate your help. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) odds, ends and more Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:54:54 -0500 I happen to be a devout worshipper of all that is Groening, at least on television. That said, I think the list needs a footer that exclaims in no uncertain terms that the Simpsons are in reruns perpetually, and probably will be for some time to come. With only so many episodes in syndication, it is inevitable that the "Burns sells the plant" and the "Hellfish" episodes will be run every few months....and there's no need to discuss it, or tell everybody you got a chuckle out of the Kraftwerk reference, or noted the word Kraftwerk in the episode title, once every 5 months. Thank god Kraftwerk weren't around when Gilligan's Island was on, huh? Just about as relevant to the list as if every German list member wrote in to say, "Hey, I drove past a Kraftwerk on my way to the office today." Isn't it odd that Kraftwerk don't seem to ever mention any "electronic pop" in their own likes and influences? I think it says a lot that the boys (at one time) were fans of the MC5, Ramones, Beach Boys - it seems to suggest to me that perhaps the best music shows little or none of its true influence. Which would be why 90% of the "synth pop" I hear, although reminiscent of KW, just leaves me uninterested. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Re: (KW) Japanese covers Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:27:50 -0700 Andr=E9as wrote:=20 >Just heard some tunes from a Japanese compilation album with=20 >Kraftwerk-covers. Artist like Hikashu, Nakano, Buffalo Daughter and=20 >Matsumae. With tunes like the model, Tanzmusik, Atem and Autobahn=20 >etc. Have you heard it? Do you have any info about it? I haven't heard it, but I'm pretty sure you're talking about this: Tribute: Kraftwerk - Various Artists Title - Musique Non Stop=20 Label - EMI ; Catalog No. - TOCT-10455=20 Origin - Japan =09 Featuring modern - eclectic Japanese acts covering famous Kraftwerk = tracks. Includes Buffalo Daughter doing the legendary "Autobahn", plus interpretations of "It's More FunTo Compute" and "Showroom Dummies". 12 tracks total. Special Order AB-CD price $28.97 The above info / notes were taken from: http://www.ab-cd.com/custom/cgi-bin/cat1/TOCT-10455?KuUyab7B;;143 Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:47:38 -0700 (don't remember who) wrote: >Does anyone know anything about the german band The Mobile Homes? >Are they similar to the kraftwerk sound? I don't know much about TMH, and to be quite honest with you, after listening to the Japanese edition of their self titled CD quite a few times, I'm not planning to do any background check on them either. The music on that CD has nothing to do with KW. TMH is an acoustic album all around. Give this album a try only if you dig Karl's second solo effort "Electric Music". IMO, EM is a heck of a lot better. Enrique np: "Expeditions" Northern Exposure # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & teaching children Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:15:46 +0000 Stephanie and Scott Richards wrote: > > In case no one on the list knows-there is an 3 cd set on the basta label > by Raymond Scott that is developmental music for babys. It is describes > as "baby kraftwerk melodies" and it is quite interesting. A while ago someone lent me a cassette copy of one of the CDs (that is the set with a track called 'Toy Soldier'?). It was quirkily interesting but I must admit I got irritated by the repetitive nature of each track. Of course, I was not Mr Scott's intended audience, so I might as well complain about 'Teletubbies' being repetitive! It would be interesting to hear from someone who was brought upon this music... Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robot Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.org Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:04:38 +0100 I've just started up my minimal kraftwerk.org page today. At this moment, it's just my Expo2014 mp3 and Erik Oehlers Computer Love mp3 (I hope you don't mind, Erik) If any other creative musicians have kw-tunes, feel free to send them to me if you want them EXPOsed.. ;-) //Roboten of Average Records http://www.kraftwerk.org http://average.nu/roboten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: (kw) Live 1976? Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:09:20 CET Hello I am back in the list. Does anybody know of Live-Tapes from 1976 other than Paris? Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: (kw) Lyrics of Numbers Date: 23 Mar 2000 15:09:06 GMT Hi all, I just wanted to thank those of you who responded to the Numbers question I posted earlier. I had no idea how many (7) languages were in it! Thanks, Zamir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: RE: (kw) www.kraftwerk.org Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:52:18 -0000 There are loads of KW site appearing on the web, but I like the idea of one dedicated to cover versions only (if that's what its for...). I'd be more likely to revisit if that's the case; there are just too many biographies and discographies already in existence. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Numbers lyrics Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:03:59 -0700 Romulus Giovanni wrote: >Hi guys, A simple question: In Numbers, what are the languages at the >end of the song (on the normal Computer World CD)? It sounds like >Japanese and then maybe French? For what is worth: towards the end of "Computer World part II" where they say a whole bunch of things, there's a Spanish number that I was never able to figure out. AFAIR (don't have the CD here at the office), there's a voice that repeats in a loop 9854 (nueve mil ochocientos cincuenta y cuatro) or something like that. Very difficult to recognize the correct number, but is in Spanish all right. They use that same sample, tape or whatever it is in concert when they blend Numbers with Computer World. Enrique a.k.a. gaucho_pop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) RE: Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:03:10 -0000 > From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com (who said): One question out of the > list: does anyone know any place in the web where I could find rare stuff > (MP3?) of early TANGERINE DREAM (e.g. Ultima Thule, Lady Greengrass, > Daydream / Moorland etc.). I would appreciate your help. > > Can't help directly, but try posting your message on this Krautrock webste: http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/3542 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: richard.poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: Re[2]: (kw) Numbers lyrics Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:14:57 -0800 See, this is the thing, why the f*ck would anyone want to know what those lyrics are. I mean why? Rich ;-) (he has also been known to post inane messages at one time or t'other, and harks back to the lists' golden days of regular posting from Klaus, JVB, Craig and Siefert) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & teaching children Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:54:08 -0800 >In case no one on the list knows-there is an 3 cd set on the basta label >by Raymond Scott that is developmental music for babys. It is describes >as "baby kraftwerk melodies" and it is quite interesting. They were >originally recorded in the 60's. Each disc is for a different age group >(0-6 months, 6months-1 year, etc). Raymond Scott is turning out to have been quite the electronic music pioneer! I have all three "Soothing Sounds For Babies" albums... Repetative, yes, but that's the nature of ambient music... And to think he recorded them in the early 1960's! He built numerous electronic instruments and drum machines in the 50's and 60's. Wall-to-wall banks of equipment, giant mainframe-sized music sequencers. Amazing stuff! There's a new Raymond Scott box set coming out soon, "Manhattan Research, Inc." named after his huge electronic music facility/laboratory. Recently there were some mp3 samples posted on http://www.raymondscott.com under the "News" section, and I encourage everyone to go listen! These aren't soothing sounds for babies, I can tell you that much. When you listen, keep in mind this stuff was recorded in the 50's and 60's! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: (kw) Re: (KW) Japanese covers Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:12:46 +0100 I have it and IMHO it's one of the best KW tributes. This is the tracklisting: 1. The model (1998 remix) by HIKASHU 2. Computer love by TERUO NAKANO 3. Autobahn by BUFFALO DAUGHTER 4. Tanzmusik by YASUSHI YAMASHITA 5. Radioactivity by HIKASHU 6. Showroom dummies by MELT-BANANA 7. Atem/Harmonika by KIMITAKA MATSUMAE 8. Dentaku (Tsukuba mix) by SATORU WONO (featuring MAYWA DENKI) 9. Sex object by ZENI GEVA 10.It's more fun to compute (Takkyo Ishino tachno funk) by TAKKYO ISHINO 11.Musique non stop (re M.N.S) by HAJIME FUKUMA (P-MODEL) 12.Europe endless including Franz Schubert and Neon lights by MAKOTO INOU= E Ivo > > > > > Andr=E9as wrote: > > >Just heard some tunes from a Japanese compilation album with > > >Kraftwerk-covers. Artist like Hikashu, Nakano, Buffalo Daughter and > > >Matsumae. With tunes like the model, Tanzmusik, Atem and Autobahn > > >etc. Have you heard it? Do you have any info about it? > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: Fwd: (kw) odds, ends and more Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:21:52 -0500 - << Isn't it odd that Kraftwerk don't seem to ever mention any "electronic pop" in their own likes and influences? >> well.. back in the Organisation days (the late 60's), there was absolutely NO electronic-pop to influience anyone.. their earliest influiences were avant garde, and free-form experimental performers like 'gilbert and george'.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6\ Sure, that goes without saying, still it is noteworthy that even into the 70's (their appreciation of the ramones) one doesn't detect a musical "echo" of influence. - besides the beach boys (where there are obvious compositonalsimilarities at times), the MC5, VU and Ramones aren't influences one might make as logical guesses. The "thing" that prompted me to comment here is that it seems at times when electronic pop bands (like the Mobile Homes) go "guitar" oriented - similarly the latest Elektric Music, CD many listees immediately dislike it. I haven't heard anybody actually talk about the songs on the Elektric Music "guitar based" CD, but I have noticed it seemed to be disliked purely for having guitars on it. An odd taste distinction that I would imagine goes one step further than Kraftwerk's collective tastes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: Fwd: (kw) odds, ends and more Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:34:03 +0100 Fred_Harding@idx.com wrote: > well.. back in the Organisation days (the late 60's), there was absolutely NO > electronic-pop to influience anyone.. > their earliest influiences were avant garde, and free-form experimental > performers like 'gilbert and george'.. Um? Gilbert and George? It *would* be interesting to see Mr Huetter and Mr Schneider in the nude, toying with faeces, surrounded by naked beautiful boys and lots of colourful flowers... Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robot Subject: RE: (kw) www.kraftwerk.org Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:26:52 +0100 Yes, that's my idea (well, not just covers. all kinds of fan-produced kw-like music, like Komputer and anything with synthetic, electronic sounds) I promise you, no discographies, no biographies, no official stuff at all. So start sending me stuff! MP3 128kbit/44khz/Stereo or higher! (Give me URL if you don't want to mail your tracks) /Roboten of Average Records http://www.kraftwerk.org http://average.nu/roboten On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Richard Marston wrote: > There are loads of KW site appearing on the web, but I like the idea of one > dedicated to cover versions only (if that's what its for...). I'd be more > likely to revisit if that's the case; there are just too many biographies > and discographies already in existence. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kailash Amruthur" Subject: (kw) got kraft? Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:38:51 PST hi sarah and welcome to the list... i'm 21 and a huge fan of kw..so i think that you probably are the youngest kw fan on this mailing list... kw rocks!! kailash ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "King Rollo" Subject: RE: (kw) www.kraftwerk.org Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:53:39 GMT Not sure about that (well, I'd never visit it, but each to their own). What there really is a need for is a decent Kraftwerk news site - anyone know of any? I know there's EMI Germany, but that's fairly rubbish... Also, I've asked before, but does anyone want to be an angel and tell me the URL of the inside page of Kraftwerk.com/.de? I can't get past the "You don't have flash" page, however hard I try. Thanks, r. >There are loads of KW site appearing on the web, but I like the idea of one >dedicated to cover versions only (if that's what its for...). I'd be more >likely to revisit if that's the case; there are just too many biographies >and discographies already in existence. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ConnectFree" Subject: RE: (kw) odds, ends and more Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:37:18 -0000 Some sounds are ugly methinks; saxaphones - yukk, I've never heard a good tune out of one. Now composition and arrangement, that's a different thing. Kraftwerk's influences are classical compositions and industrial noise ('rythem' - if you want a quote). I'm happy that ExpoY2k has moved away from 'techno pop', which has run it's course, and rediscovered the cello. There are no more new sounds to hear than there are colours to see. I can imagine someone enjoying Europe Endless or Neon Lights in Y3K, but doubt the robot who will clean my great-great-great...grandson's home will be listening to Electric Cafe; unless he is feeling nostalgic ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spectre Subject: (kw) Favorite Live Performance? Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:37:48 -0500 Greetings all, I haven't seen a poll on here in a few weeks, so I thought I'd start one: What is your favorite live recording of Kraftwerk? My personal favorite is September 8, 1981 in Tokyo. The recording I have is "Virtu Ex Machina". Cheers! Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) Re: My Favorite Live Performance Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:33:51 -0800 (PST) Hi from Fremont, California.. My favorite live performance is the one I was fortunate enough to get to see in person (and the first in line as well): The Warfield Theater in San Francisco, CA in June of 1998!! It also has one of the best live double-cd KW recordings out there ("The Warfield Theater Soundboard"). Cheers, Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) ''78 Italian Tv show pics Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:12:56 +0100 HI, Werkers I've the JPG of KwK (playing at Italian TV show in 1978 )=2E I can mail it to anyone interested exchanging it , when possible , with other rare pics showing specially Kling Klang equipement=2E I hope to build up my homepage as soon as possible=2E xelius@libero=2Eit -Evolution not rEvolution - Andr=E9as Hagstrom wrote: >My name is Andr=E9as and Im from Sweden=2E Im interessted in Kraftwerks >iconography and would be very happy if you could send me the pic=2E SPECTRE wrote: >I'd be very interested in seeing that Photo if you get in into JPEG >format=2E # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) tip of the day by xelius Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:31:44 +0100 Hi ,Werkers, To clone the classical " train " rythm sequence on T.E.E. '76 version, this is my recipe: start groovin' smoothed white+pink noise shots and pass them through an EVENTIDE CLOCKWORKS Instant Flanger mod.FL 201. Set properly LFOspeed, and high feedback then blend 20-25% of 1/8 analog delay with 3 repetitions. Enjoi it. Into Kling Klang studio ,on november '91 at "Rolling Stone" in Milano, I saw 2 vintage 'Eventide Clockvorks' devices framed . I suppose that this machine , in the form of 'Instant Phaser' is the tool used to forge many Autobahn keyboard sounds and noises; In the form of 'Instant Flanger' KwK probabily used it for Radioactivity track ( drums and noise sweep ) ,Antenna drums and bassline , Ohm sweet ohm (the slow fluttering air noise appearing at the beginning) and in T.E.E. sequence and keyboard chords ( but not on the Vako Orchestron parts ) From The Man Machine to nowaday its use seems stopped. Thanks for any feedback and inherent comment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: RE: (kw) Favorite Live Performance? Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:21:04 -0000 > ---------- > Spectre > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 4:37 am > To: Kraftwerk Mailing List > Subject: (kw) Favorite Live Performance? > > > Favourite live recording? Well, there's a german TV documentary featuring > interviews with Ralf intersperced with lives performances from late 1981 > with the music recorded directly from the mixing desk -- very clean sound, > audience volume quite low (as Florian would (probably hear it through his > oversized 'cans') and the right balance between percussion and keyboards > that always gets lost when recorded by the bootleggers' crappy > microphones. All it needs is to be heard through a bloody loud PA system, > which is how I remember it when I saw them in '81. > > ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk & teaching children Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:59:20 +0000 Jason Polland wrote: > Recently there were some mp3 samples posted on http://www.raymondscott.com > under the "News" section, and I encourage everyone to go listen! And there's even a song called 'Powerhouse' (!) at http://RaymondScott.com/FAQ.htm. The theme will be familiar... Thanks for the info, Jason! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Olympia 1-2 April Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:46:59 -0000 Just a note to let you all know that one of Europe's largest collectors fairs will be happening on Sat/Sun 1st & 2nd April at the Olympia Exhibition Centre, London. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: (kw) lacava.dynip.com Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:04:49 CET Why aren't I able to download (or upload) any files from this server? I've tried the most FTP programs (Win: CuteFTP, LeechFTP and WsFTP Pro, Unix: IglooFTP and NcFTP). So I suppose that it's something wrong with file permissions or something like that. What about you others: have you've been able to download anything? /Erik ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spectre Subject: Re: (kw) Favorite Live Performance? Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:44:34 -0500 Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > > I would say... first "Concert classics" even if they could have put more from the show. > 48 minutes, it's too short ! Ah yes, that is a very good one. It also has a lot of "human" character with Ralf talking about the drum kit problems... Cheers! Chuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ConnectFree" Subject: RE: (kw) Olympia 1-2 April Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:24:37 -0000 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Richard Marston Sent: 24 March 2000 12:47 Just a note to let you all know that one of Europe's largest collectors fairs will be happening on Sat/Sun 1st & 2nd April at the Olympia Exhibition Centre, London. Apologies to all who know this, or aren't interested. At the risk of sounding dummer than usual; is this a record/memorabilia collector's fair ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Markus Formann" Subject: Re: (kw) lacava.dynip.com Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:44:03 +0100 no :( markus ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 12:04 PM What about you others: have you've been able to download anything? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Herbert Stocker Subject: Re: (kw) lacava.dynip.com Date: 24 Mar 2000 18:55:06 +0100 (MET) > > Why aren't I able to download (or upload) any files from this server? > I've tried the most FTP programs (Win: CuteFTP, LeechFTP and WsFTP Pro, > Unix: IglooFTP and NcFTP). So I suppose that it's something wrong with > file > permissions or something like that. What about you others: have you've > been > able to download anything? > Haven't you read the message file on the server? It says, that Arnoud lets only those people download things, who can give him something. This is, why download doesn't work. I didn't try uploading. Herbert -- Herbert Stocker (Hell) hell@stusta.mhn.de http://www.stusta.mhn.de herbert@blaxxun.de http://www.cybertown.com Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) lacava.dynip.com Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:56:37 +0200 On 24-Mar-00 A.D., Erik Sundkvist carved the following runes about "(kw) lacava.dynip.com": > > Why aren't I able to download (or upload) any files from this server? I've > tried the most FTP programs (Win: CuteFTP, LeechFTP and WsFTP Pro, Unix: > IglooFTP and NcFTP). So I suppose that it's something wrong with file > permissions or something like that. What about you others: have you've > been able to download anything? >From the server's welcome message: 220-Access is now restricted to people who can upload stuff 220-according to my requests,see the 220-file my_requests.txt -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Numbers lyrics Date: 25 Mar 2000 09:38:34 +0100 Bob VonMoss wrote: > Uno, Duo, Tre, Quatro (Spanish) Nope. The Spanish first numbers are uno, dos, tres, cuatro. Uno, due, treis, quattro is Italian. The only Spanish numbers said in 'Numbers' are Uno, Dos, Cuatro by the right speaker. BTW, the 'random counting' at the end of Numbers (live rendition) is in Spanish. :-) Enrique Correa wrote: >For what is worth: towards the end of "Computer World part II" where they >say a whole bunch of things, there's a Spanish number that I was never able >to figure out. AFAIR (don't have the CD here at the office), there's a voice >that repeats in a loop 9854 (nueve mil ochocientos cincuenta y cuatro) or >something like that. Very difficult to recognize the correct number, but is >in Spanish all right. They use that same sample, tape or whatever it is in >concert when they blend Numbers with Computer World. AFAIK the "Spanish numbers" is ONLY at the end of the Numbers live not in the Numbers and/or Computerworld 2 (album version/s). Eins zwei drei vier funf sechs sieben acht (German) Uno due treis quattro (Italian) Uno dos cuatro (Spanish) One two (English) Ichi ni san chi (Japanese) Odin dva tri (Russian) Jerry Withers wrote: >I just bought the DVD of The Big Lobowski. Undeniably a Kraftwerk reference >there. :) Speaking about The Big Lebowski, is anybody able to remember if there were a reference to this joke in some of the Coen brothers' interviews? DER AUTOMAT I want to say welcome to the new members! ^_^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Numbers lyrics Date: 25 Mar 2000 11:33:49 +0100 And I thought the lyrics were 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ;-() Gunnar Der Automat schrieb: > > Bob VonMoss wrote: > > > Uno, Duo, Tre, Quatro (Spanish) > > Nope. The Spanish first numbers are uno, dos, tres, cuatro. Uno, due, treis, > quattro is Italian. > The only Spanish numbers said in 'Numbers' are Uno, Dos, Cuatro by the right > speaker. > BTW, the 'random counting' at the end of Numbers (live rendition) is in > Spanish. :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:19:15 EST Hi Sarah. << Am I the youngest person on this list? >> Perhaps. There was a period of time in which I was on this list at the age of 16, but I am 17 now. I have been 17 since December. You might be younger than me. I am not sure. Sam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Modular77@aol.com Subject: (kw) wolfgang's book Date: 25 Mar 2000 16:22:21 EST hello everyone.. theres a cool kraftwerk article in the new SELECT (uk) magazine.. it talks about wolfgangs book (i was a robot [in deutsch]).. the article didn't say if it was going to be released in english, or not.. does anyone out there know? :::rocky::: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTalbert Subject: (kw) The Man Machine Recreated booleg Date: 25 Mar 2000 19:59:47 -0800 Hi all! After pouring through my CD collection, I have located a Kraftwerk bootleg CD of unofficial remixes entitled "The Man Machine Recreated." The track listing is as follows: The Robots (Space Strings Mix) The Model (German Model Mix ) Spacelab (Shuttle Mix) Metropolis (Lost Town Mix) Neon Lights (Stratosphear Mix) The Man Machine (Forward March Mix) Tour De France (Arrivee Mix) I am parting with it for $15.00 (I paid the going bootleg rate of $25.00 for it a few years ago). The CD, artwork and case is in excellent condition. I'll cover Priority Mail shipping costs to any location in the world (air mail for countries that do not have priority mail services). If anyone is interested in this CD, please reply to: jtalbert@ameritech.net. If you have any further questions about this CD, feel free to drop me a note. I've only got the one copy, so first come first served. Kindest regards, -John ______________________________________________________________________ http://www.efofex.net - soundofelectronics 000 111 001 10 100 111 0010 0 0100 0 1010 1 010 111 10 00 1010 000 ETX Listen to new Efofex CD "Stress" http://www.efofex.net/stress_quicklink.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: Re: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:18:52 -0500 At 08:31 PM 3/22/00 -0500, Sarah wrote: >There's a few things I wanted to mention/ask quickly. One - about the >Japanese lyrics in 'Numbers' - the computer mispronounces the Japanese word >for 1 ("Ichi" ends up sounding like "Ich"). "Ich" is actually valid - the ending vowel of some words tends to get dropped like that. >And three - has anyone ever thought that the Pet Shop Boys' >red-and-white dunce caps from the 'Can You Forgine Her?' video might have >been a nod at Kraftwerk's famous striped road cone? I wish I could say... it's hard to find Pet Shop Boys videos on MTV or VH-1 in the States. The only one I've seen is "Opportunities" on "Pop-Up Video". However, I believe those dunce caps are pictured in the liner notes of "Very". You could be right, though I always thought of the caps as just another reflection of their artistic, eccentric ways. >PS... Am I the youngest person on this list? Quite possibly, which leads to... At 08:41 PM 3/22/00 -0700, Soleil wrote: >Dunno, but you're one of very few females (or people who claim to be >female, since nobody can tell). > >It's reassuring to know that someone of a later generation than myself >knows that Kraftwerk exists. I get enough uncomprehending stares from my >own age group. :) In all of the lists I've been on (which aren't that many, admittedly), men seem to be the majority of the active writers, and probably the subscribers as well. I'm also glad to see some younger people interested in Kraftwerk. I'm 26 myself and feel quite alone among my peers in that interest. I have, however, introduced two friends of mine, both female, one 20 and one 19, to Kraftwerk. They both enjoyed their music, though unfortunately have not become attached to them enough to buy any albums. It is still a good sign, though. :) Sarah: you are an unusual Kraftwerk fan, at least in my experience, being as young as you are and female as well. If you don't mind telling the list, how did you learn of Kraftwerk and eventually become a fan? . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.org Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:26:41 -0500 At 04:04 PM 3/23/00 +0100, Roboten wrote: >I've just started up my minimal kraftwerk.org page today. > >At this moment, it's just my Expo2014 mp3 and Erik Oehlers Computer Love mp3 I am very glad you started this. I comb the Internet for cover and home-brew versions of Kraftwerk songs. I've downloaded most that I've found. There's quite a rich supply of MIDI and MOD files from years ago. Hopefully, your page will serve both as a central repository and as encouragement for more fan covers. (By the way, who is doing them these days? I know Kevin Lux has done a couple. The MIDI and MOD market seems to have dried up, unfortunately.) . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 26 Mar 2000 13:08:28 +0200 As I said, I'm 16 and I know that a friend of mine who is on the list is only 14. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Bootleg CD 'Heute Abend' Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:06:01 +0200 Last week I got a bootleg CD 'Kraftwerk - Heute Abend', but with the cover of 'Kraftwerk - enregistree live a l'Olympia 1981'. As the Heute-Abend-CD is labeled, it is a 12 track live recording from 1991. - Does anyone knows where it was recorded and when? - Could anyone tell me where to get a L'olympia bootleg CD (may be a copy)? Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Bootleg CD 'Heute Abend' Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:01:00 +0200 Last week I got a bootleg CD 'Kraftwerk - Heute Abend', but with the cover of 'Kraftwerk - enregistree live a l'Olympia 1981'. As the Heute-Abend-CD is labeled, it is a 12 track live recording from 1991. - Does anyone knows where it was recorded and when? - Could anyone tell me where to get a L'olympia bootleg CD (may be a copy)? Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Favorite Live Performance? Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:38:08 +0200 > What is your favorite live recording of Kraftwerk? I've been at a number of live performances, the first in Utrecht in 1981, then in 1991 at the Brixton Academy (London), as it was uncertain whether Kraftwerk would play live in The Netherlands, 1991 in Utrecht (they came after all), 1993 (?) in Groningen and in Manchester for the anti-Sellafield thing. I thought the Utrecht 1981 concert was absolutely fabulous. It was a dynamic performance, great sound, and they played what is to date the absolute top in any live KW performance for me: Metropolis! That live Metropolis has haunted me for years till I found it on "a" CD. I think the Utrecht performance of Metropolis is the only time they played that live ever... The opening of the show was a great moment too, no one had seen images of the Kling Klang studio then, the audience really gasped when the fluorescent lights flickered on. The 1991 and further performances were ok, but a bit disappointing in a way, as Kraftwerk really has become a Man Machine on stage. Impossible to discern who plays what, and every gig being nearly the same, almost copying the sound of The Mix. I have contemplated going to the Tribal Gathering a few years ago, but I'm happy I did not go. The Groningen performance was not much fun at all for me, a very small hall, and when the people on the front seats started dancing the rest of the audience was forced to stand up if they wanted to see anything at all. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) xelius ( has Hutter plagiarized Schumann? ) Date: 27 Mar 2000 00:14:46 +0200 Hi werkers, Has Hutter plagiarized Robert Schumann? The theme of AIRWAVES is the melody written by R.Schumann (Op.68) in "The Merry Peasant Returning From Work" - from bar 9 - to bar 11 .( a famous page for younger piano players ) The II voice melody in AIRWAVES armonizing the lead is the lower line Schumann wrote in that bars. Has anyone never discussed this subject in the list ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: (kw) KLANG DJ 101,102,103,104 Date: 26 Mar 2000 14:32:30 -0800 (PST) FOR SALE: the set of four 12" singles that emi released to co-incide with kraftwerk playing at tribel gathering. all are in mint condition and have never been played. all come in picture sleeve. there is no box or t-shirt with this item. please e-mail me privately with any reasonable offer in uk pounds. thanks. p.s i am a genuine fan and selling this set cause i already have a copy of them. and all the people said......amen!!! _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Re: My Favorite Live Performance Date: 27 Mar 2000 17:23:40 +0200 Duesseldorf 1991, because this was my very first and only time, I saw KRAFTWERK live. Especially I love the version of "Taschenrechner" of this gig, because Ralf used this stylophone-sound for the lead instead of the common miniorgan-sound. Gunnar Jason & Sherry Nuckels wrote: > > Hi from Fremont, California.. > My favorite live performance is the one I was fortunate enough to get > to see in person (and the first in line as well): The Warfield Theater > in San Francisco, CA in June of 1998!! It also has one of the best live > double-cd KW recordings out there ("The Warfield Theater Soundboard"). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Coen Rampen" Subject: (kw) Australian Expo2000 release? Date: 27 Mar 2000 22:23:06 +0200 Hi all, Just plucked this from Esprit's stocklist (www.eil.com): KRAFTWERK Expo 2000 (Australian maxi CD inc enhanced segment featuring the video version of the radio mix of the track, picture slv)= =A3 7.99 / $ 12.78 Anyone know if this is a new release or identical to the UK pressing? Greetings, Coen Rampen c.rampen@student.utwente.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: (kw) Beck - The New Pollution Date: 27 Mar 2000 21:17:33 +0200 I haven't seen this mentioned here yet, but the video of Beck's "The New Pollution" has a bit where the (Beck) band members act as Kraftwerk performing Pocket Calculator. Dressed in black, Brylcreem hair, and posing with small keyboards and portable radios. A good tribute! (The New Pollution is on Odelay.) Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) The Man Machine Recreated booleg Date: 27 Mar 2000 12:38:51 -0800 >After pouring through my CD collection, I have located a Kraftwerk >bootleg CD of unofficial remixes entitled "The Man Machine Recreated." >The track listing is as follows: > > The Robots (Space Strings Mix) > The Model (German Model Mix ) > Spacelab (Shuttle Mix) > Metropolis (Lost Town Mix) > Neon Lights (Stratosphear Mix) > The Man Machine (Forward March Mix) > Tour De France (Arrivee Mix) This album is available for free, in mp3 format, at: http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/boot01.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Bootleg CD 'Heute Abend' Date: 27 Mar 2000 12:43:04 -0800 >- Could anyone tell me where to get a L'olympia bootleg CD (may be a >copy)? Don't bother looking for it! I have a copy, it's mastered too fast, everything is sped up. I suppose the bootleggers did this so that they could fit more songs on the disc, but... Don't get it unless you want to hear songs such as "The Model" sounding like it's sung by The Chipmunks! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Bootleg CD 'Heute Abend' Date: 27 Mar 2000 19:48:26 EST << >- Could anyone tell me where to get a L'olympia bootleg CD (may be a >copy)? Don't bother looking for it! I have a copy, it's mastered too fast, everything is sped up. I suppose the bootleggers did this so that they could fit more songs on the disc, but... Don't get it unless you want to hear songs such as "The Model" sounding like it's sung by The Chipmunks! >> I have a friend (fellow listmember Nate Ward) with the same recording. The speed is sort of crappy. Nate did however say that he encountered someone online with a bootleg of that show on 2 discs. Maybe the sound on that is normal. I don't know anything else about it. Sam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ganz allein" Subject: (kw) (off-topic) looking for a list member Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:05:09 PST Is there a Robert Dijkhuizen on this list from the Netherlands? Please email me privately. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rick C" Subject: Re: (kw) Australian Expo2000 release? Date: 28 Mar 2000 22:22:19 +0930 Hi, March 28,' 00 Australian release of Expo 2000 is news to me ! In my opinion, no such release exists here. All I've seen available in South Australia is UK import copies of the ' Tour De France' cd single with enhanced clip & the first release of Expo 2000 cd single without the video clip. I'm still waiting for copies with the video clip to arrive via a import order with a local music store here. At times, overseas dealers tend to mix Australia with AUSTRIA ! could this be the case ? Regards, Rick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Coen Rampen" Subject: RE: (kw) Australian Expo2000 release? Date: 28 Mar 2000 15:47:22 +0200 > At times, overseas dealers tend to mix Australia with AUSTRIA ! > could this be the case ? Right, except there isn't an Austrian release either. :-) Maybe they figured the European release was pressed in Austria; Sony does this for example. But then again, Esprit is usually correct in their listings... Greetings, Coen Rampen c.rampen@student.utwente.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Australian EXPO2000 Date: 28 Mar 2000 15:09:54 +0100 http://www2.emimusic.com.au/artists.asp?id=267&newsid=393&monthid=2 Yes, it looks like the thing was released 'down under'. From the March 6th release date I would say the CD is the enhanced version with the video. Someone could alsways e-mail EMI Australian to find out... http://www2.emimusic.com.au/feedback.asp ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) Computers In Love, Vor Uns Metropolis Date: 28 Mar 2000 08:46:22 -0700 Howdy all, Could someone provide tracklistings for the following two bootlegs? Computers In Love Vor Uns Metropolis Also, if anyone has scanned artwork for these shows, I would be eternally greatful to get a copy! I will trade for another show, or we can work something else out. Thanks, Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "AMSCORT International" Subject: (kw) Russians in mailing list Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:31:47 +0400 Hi, WERKERS! Is anybody on this list from the Russia? Please email me privately. Thank you. Billy The Mechanic belimov@mail.ru billy@1798.com billy@amscort.ru # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Larry LaCost Jr Subject: Re: (kw) Bootleg CD 'Heute Abend' Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:23:38 -0800 (PST) > If anyone would like to have this bootleg adjusted to > the corect speed with no loss of distortion or sound > quality, please email me privately... I can do it. > > Larry R. LaCost Jr. ===== Larry... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Bootleg CD 'Heute Abend' Date: 28 Mar 2000 17:48:21 +0200 It's strange that you have Heute Abend on one cd. Normally it is a double cd. Ivo > > Last week I got a bootleg CD 'Kraftwerk - Heute Abend', but with the > cover of 'Kraftwerk - enregistree live a l'Olympia 1981'. > As the Heute-Abend-CD is labeled, it is a 12 track live recording from > 1991. > > - Does anyone knows where it was recorded and when? > > - Could anyone tell me where to get a L'olympia bootleg CD (may be a > copy)? > > Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spectre Subject: Re: (kw) Computers In Love, Vor Uns Metropolis Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:34:00 -0500 Greetings, They this site, it's pretty comprehensive. http://www4.big.or.jp/~blanks/kraft/boots/frame/boot.html Cheers, Chuck Mike Henderson wrote: > > Howdy all, > > Could someone provide tracklistings for the following two bootlegs? > Computers In Love > Vor Uns Metropolis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ilych@aol.com Subject: (kw) re: Schumann's "Merry Peasant"/Airwaves Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:49:25 EST I've known this for a number of years...Hutter's version (in "Airwaves") has the same rhythm, the same melody, and is in the exact same KEY. It's almost impossible for me to believe that this "riff," if you will, was not lifted from Schumann. Personally, I thought it interesting that Hutter would "borrow" from a piece of classical music. If it was an unconscious, chance-filled coincidence that Hutter happened to write the exact same melody in the exact same manner as the late Mr. Schumann, then I'm the Pope's love-child. Bruno van der Velde >>>Has Hutter plagiarized Robert Schumann? The theme of AIRWAVES is the melody written by R.Schumann (Op.68) in "The Merry Peasant Returning From Work" - from bar 9 - to bar 11 .( a famous page for younger piano players ) The II voice melody in AIRWAVES armonizing the lead is the lower line Schumann wrote in that bars. Has anyone never discussed this subject in the list ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) re: Schumann's "Merry Peasant"/Airwaves Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:57:25 -0500 Wow!! The pope had an affair? Holy smoke! Ilych@aol.com wrote: > If it was an unconscious, chance-filled coincidence that > Hutter happened to write the exact same melody in the exact same manner as > the late Mr. Schumann, then I'm the Pope's love-child. > Bruno van der Velde # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: RE: (kw) Bootleg: "Heute Abend" Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:01:13 -0800 (PST) I will personally vouch for Larry La Cost as far as re-recording bootlegs at the correct speed is concerned. He has re-mastered that Olympia cd for me, and he also did a great job on re-mastering "RI-MI-NI" (Italy 1990) and "Lebendige-Menschen" (Tribal Gathering songs 1 and 2) for me as well!! Highest recommendation! Jason Nuckels # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk vs. Fluer Date: 28 Mar 2000 23:26:16 +0000 Wolfgang Fluer asked to make this public: The main hearing in Kraftwerk's lawsuit against his book is scheduled for April 28th at the Landgericht Hamburg. He invites everybody "who's interested in the truth" to attend this hearing. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Author event? Date: 28 Mar 2000 23:26:16 +0000 > I just found this snippet of info on the web; apologies to anyone > who already knows this. > W. Fluer ex-Kraftwerk reads and tells stories at the > CENTRALSTATION in Darmstadt/Germany, Saturday 03.June 2000. I've heard that this event is planned for Tuesday, June 6th. Does anyone know the precise date? Thanks in advance, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Eberhard Kranemann News Date: 28 Mar 2000 23:28:47 +0000 Kraftwerk ex-member Eberhard Kranemann appears at some kind of opera (??) in Duesseldorf next Friday. From http://home.wtal.de/crossovermedia/termine/termine.htm: FIREWALL experimentelle Multimedia-Oper Premiere Duesseldorf am 31.Maerz 2000 [...] in der Alten Post am Worringer Platz 21 Uhr weitere Auffuehrungen am 1./ 2./ 7./ 8. April Party nach der letzten Vorstellung am 8. April Kartenvorbestellung unter 0202/ 528 87 87 Text, Inszenierung, Buehne & Licht: Oliver Blum Darsteller: Ruediger Hellmann, Caroline Keufen, Jurek Radtke Musik: Eberhard Kranemann (Synthesizer, Gitarre) Georg Zangl (Stahlharfen, Sampler, Kesselpauken) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Schone Neue Welt Date: 28 Mar 2000 21:09:29 -0500 I noticed recently that AB-CD is selling the "Schone Neue Welt" bootleg. I'm interested in buying it but am wary of duplicating some or all of a bootleg I already own. I downloaded part of "Robotronik Ubermensch" and found that all the songs except "Sex Objekt" were on "Man Machine Recreated" under different names. Does "Schone Neue Welt" duplicate anything from the other Kraftwerk remix bootlegs? . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sarahgri@interlog.com Subject: (kw) I really want one of those road cones... Date: 28 Mar 2000 22:26:33 -0500 Hello! >"Ich" is actually valid - the ending vowel of some words tends to get >dropped like that. Hmm... funny that. It's just that I take Japanese every Saturday morning and my sensei always says "Eee-Cheee", not "Eeech". So do all the audio/video supplies we use. Only in "Numbers" have I ever heard it pronounced that way. "I" at the end of "shi" is often silenced, but rarely when it's on its own or paired up with "chi". If not... gomene for my error! I'm still just learning... *^_^* >However, I believe those dunce caps are pictured in the liner >notes of "Very". You could be right, though I always thought of the caps >as just another reflection of their artistic, eccentric ways. Yes, they are in the 'Very' booklet. The more I think about it, the more I think that they just might be a subliminal Kraftwerkian influence. Also, on the new 'Nightlife' LP, there is a song called "Radiophonic", which is highly Kraftwerkian in sound - the electronic voice and the airy electronic opening sequence. ... Somebody asked me if there was a PSB mailing list. The answer is yes! I used to belong to it. It's called the 'Introspective' mailing list. I can't remember the exact address to subscribe to it, but go to any PSB page on the web and it should tell you. >>Dunno, but you're one of very few females (or people who claim to be >>female, since nobody can tell). Yes, I'm definitely a female, though I prefer to regard myself androgynously. It's more ROBOTIC that way! ;-) >If you don't mind telling the list, how did you learn of Kraftwerk and >>eventually become a fan? I had seen videos for songs like 'The Model' and 'Trans Europe Express' on MUCH now and again, and had always remained curious about Kraftwerk, wondering who they were. While I was on the PSB mailing list, their name frequently popped up into discussion, and so my curiousity grew even more, since PSB fans took a shining to their sound. Then I saw another rerun of 'The Model', and I just couldn't get that song out of my head, so I bought 'Man-Machine' really cheap at 'Sam's'(only $7.00 CDN + tax - this was only last June, BTW!). Then I downloaded as many MP3s off the net as I could (I LOVE the live version of 'Metropolis' - amazing! What konzert was that from?), and began collecting more albums. Now I have most of them, plus Pascal Bussy's book, and I'm bound and determined to see them live! I play them at school everyday in the 'S-Hall' where I hang out, and I have started a group of many new worshippers. We dance to 'Trans Europe Express' on an almost daily basis, calling ourselves "The First European Dance Troupe Not Originally From Europe". It seems that there are a helluva lot of Canadians (at least artistic ones) who adore Kraftwerk. *Sigh*... now if only they'd play in Toronto... Kling Klang! -Sarah :-) ____________________________________________________________________________ __ _ //\\/__ \ \ \_ //__\\ /\\/\ // \ /__\\ \ /___ / \ / / # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ouija@mail.com Subject: Re: (kw) Schone Neue Welt Date: 28 Mar 2000 22:39:47 -0500 >Does "Schone Neue Welt" duplicate anything from the other Kraftwerk >remix bootlegs? Yes, it certainly does. In fact, with the exception of containing 2 additional tracks tacked onto the end, "Schone Neue Welt" is the exact same recording as the remix bootleg by the name of "The First DJ Edition". The tracks on both discs are even listed by the same names on the back of the discs. In case you're still not sure what you'd be getting, here is the tracklist for 'Schone Neue Welt' (and bear in mind that tracks 1-9 is the same recording as "The First DJ Edition"): 1) Electric Cafe (Mixx-It-Remix) 2) Die Roboter (US-Rap-Mix) 3) Sex Objekt (Demo Mix) 4) Computerwelt (US-DJ-Promo-Mix by Razormaid) 5) Powerwork Megamix 6) Telephone-Mix 7) Re-Worked (Music Factory Mastermix) 8) Razormaid/Gridlock Mixmedley 9) Sex Objekt (US-DJ-Promo-Mix by Razormaid) 10) Housephone 11) The Telephone Call (Re-Mix) _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mischoulon@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #403 Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:03:31 EST In a message dated 3/28/2000 7:57:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << Has Hutter plagiarized Robert Schumann? The theme of AIRWAVES is the melody written by R.Schumann (Op.68) in "The Merry Peasant Returning From Work" - from bar 9 - to bar 11 .( a famous page for younger piano players ) The II voice melody in AIRWAVES armonizing the lead is the lower line Schumann wrote in that bars. Has anyone never discussed this subject in the list ? >> Interesting. I wasn't aware of this. However, Schumann' s music is probably considered in the public domain by now, so a sampling from it is not likely to raise any eyebrows. Billy Joel "plagiarized" part of a Beethoven (I think it was Beethoven) piece for his song "This Night" (from "An Innocent Man" album), and acknowledged it in the liner notes. Don't know if Hutter made any acknowledgement. David M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TiMezero" Subject: Re: (kw) Got Kraft? Date: 27 Mar 2000 02:06:19 +0200 ----- Original Message -----=20 Cc: "Kraftwerk listserv" Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 1:08 PM >=20 > As I said, I'm 16 and I know that a friend of mine who is on the list = is only 14. >=20 > /Finarvas Yes thats true. But i was acctuly only 12 yrs when I started to listen = at kraftwerk, yes it true. But its sad that the other young ones around cant feel the rythems and = melody's of electronic music. Maybe some young ones thinks "We are the robots" is cool, well = the-mix edition of course... /TiMezero (Daniel Mark) ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk vs. Fluer Date: 29 Mar 2000 01:39:22 -0500 At 11:26 PM 3/28/00 +0000, you wrote: > > >Wolfgang Fluer asked to make this public: >The main hearing in Kraftwerk's lawsuit against his book is scheduled >for April 28th at the Landgericht Hamburg. >He invites everybody "who's interested in the truth" to attend this >hearing. > > Klaus Zaepke Crap! Now I REALLY want to read that book! What inspired such a lawsuit, I wonder? Anyone know? Can it just be some kind of veil of secrecy the two originals want to maintain? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * The latest and greatest DUBSTAR Site and Mailing List at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/dubstar.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: Re: (kw) I really want one of those road cones... Date: 28 Mar 2000 22:55:50 -0800 (PST) Hi There, "Metropolis" live can be found on these bootleg cd's: "Toccatta Electronica", "Computertour", and "Dynamo Deutchland", plus I have that full show (Vredenburg, Utrecht, The Netherlands, December 1981) as well (you've GOT to hear "Heimcomputer", the finale! ). Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blake Bell Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk vs. Fluer Date: 29 Mar 2000 02:00:28 -0500 At 11:26 PM 3/28/00 +0000, you wrote: >Wolfgang Fluer asked to make this public: >The main hearing in Kraftwerk's lawsuit against his book is scheduled >for April 28th at the Landgericht Hamburg. >He invites everybody "who's interested in the truth" to attend this >hearing. > > Klaus Zaepke Crap! Now I REALLY want to read that book! What inspired such a lawsuit, I wonder? Anyone know? Can it just be some kind of veil of secrecy the two originals want to maintain? SINcerely, Blake in Toronto * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * The latest and greatest DUBSTAR Site and Mailing List at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/dubstar.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) I really want one of those road cones... Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:56:19 +0000 sarahgri@interlog.com wrote: > Yes, I'm definitely a female, though I prefer to regard myself > androgynously. It's more ROBOTIC that way! ;-) Careful, that's a slippery slope! Before you know it you'll start whirring... Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Ich War Ein Roboter Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:49:42 +0100 Just thought I would post this: Wolfgang Flur's book has been withdrawn from the publisher's website since I looked the last time, but at the moment -- perhaps temporarily, considering the pending court case in April -- it is still listed by amazon.de and apparently is still buyable. It's in German though... Here's the location of the book: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3854451733/qid%3D954322446/028-9345246 -2401014 ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) Japanese (OT) Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:18:09 +0200 Doesn't "yon" mean fouth, rather than four? The same with "shou" contra "eech/eechi" meaning first and one? /Joakim -----Original Message----- ... an alternative word for four: "yon". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Another Japanese thing... Date: 29 Mar 2000 11:32:56 +0100 Since there's been a lot of interestin this list about things Japanese, perhaps someone can help me. In around 1982 I bought the Japanese issued version of Computer World (with Dentaku in place of Pocket Calculator). As well as the normal inner sleeve there was also a double LP width lyric sheet (with some funny errors by the Japanese translator) which also had the inner sleeve photos on the reverse of it. Sincce the mid-80s discographies always refer to the Japanese edition as having a gatefold cover -- is this true? Or is this an error caused by a confusion of the insert and the sleeve by the compiler, and which has been repeated by subsequent compilers of discographies (working in publishing I am aware of the extent to which reference subject authors tend to feed off each other's material). I would be interested to hear of anyone who actually has a gatefold outer sleeved Computer World -- personally, I doubt they exist. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) Computers In Love, Vor Uns Metropolis Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:14:19 +0200 > Could someone provide tracklistings for the following two bootlegs? > Computers In Love Disc 1 numbers computer world homecomputer computer love the model neon lights radio activity ohm swwet ohm Disc 2 autobahn the looking glass maneqiun trans europa express taschenrechner the robots it's more fun to compute live belgium 1981 1991 skeleton songs ss 001/002 Best, Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: RE: (kw) I really want one of those road cones... Date: 29 Mar 2000 05:23:52 -0800 (PST) Hello, I received the show in a trade with Harald Fiktorie, from the Netherlands. He sent it to me on cassette, and I don't remember if his original source is cassette or cd. Anyway, it's one of my favorite shows from the boys!! Cheers, Jason Talk to you later, Jason & Sherry Nuckels # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: (kw) Neue Version Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:10:50 CEST Last Year I made 8 remixes of KW-tracks in our studio. I made 2 CD-R copies of them, one for me and one I traded for an KW-Bootleg. I did not mention to anybody that I did the remixes and I wanted to see how long it will take for them to circulate among KW-Fans. I know of several fans who got a copy of the CD, but not from me! The "fake Bootleg" I called "Neue Version". Now the question: Is it common among you collectors??? How many of you got a copy? mail me privately if you want. and mail opinions and critics. Thanx Dirk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk vs. Fluer Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:16:18 +0200 and I guess you will be there.... How lucky you are ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk vs. Fluer Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:21:55 +0200 Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > and I guess you will be there.... > How lucky you are ! Anyone with a bit of taste ignores the whole thing, in my opinion. Who, in his right mind, would allow stories about his private life be printed in book form, whether it's the truth or not? I find the whole thing pathetic, smelling of Fluer's frustration with how things went, although I can very well imagine Fluer's totally unhappy with the way he left Kraftwerk. By the way, Schneider has a patent on the electronic drum pads since 1975 (the looks actually), it's a bit late for opposite claims. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Sueddeutsche Zeitung on www.kraftwerk.de Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:58:13 +0000 Todays online edition of the Sueddeutsche Zeitung features a brief review (German language) of www.kraftwerk.de: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/computer/surftipps/alt_tippdestages01.htm Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Another Japanese thing... Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:58:13 +0000 > I would be interested to hear of anyone who actually has a gatefold outer > sleeved Computer World -- personally, I doubt they exist. It does exist, though it is not from Japan, but from Venezuela. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mills Subject: (kw) Mp3 exchange Date: 30 Mar 2000 11:55:23 +0100 I'm after the following mp3's: * RADIOACTIVITY (ORBIT 7 INCH MIX) * DER TELEFONANARUF (8:10 REMIX) * TOUR DE FRANCE (ORIGINAL 6:30 FRENCH VERSION) I have everything else Kraftwerk have ever done available in mp3 format - is there anyone out there willing to do an exchange ????????? Regards Paul Mills paulm@intercell.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rick C" Subject: Re: (kw) Australian EXPO2000 Date: 30 Mar 2000 23:29:47 +0930 Hi, March 30,' 00 Copies of the EXPO 2000 cd single have arrived in the stores here this week. I purchased a copy this evening & it also contains the enhanced video track. They are UK copies, CDEM 562 which are distributed here by EMI Australia. The cover is grey with green art work of the 4 members behind keyboards. The 4 tracks are: 1) EXPO 2000....Radio Mix 2) EXPO 2000....KLING KLANG Mix 2000 3) EXPO 2000....KLING KLANG Mix 2002 4) EXPO 2000....KLING KLANG Mix 2001 Hope this helps. Regards, Rick................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Change e-mail address Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:26:35 +0200 Please note the change of e-mail address automat@offcampus.net DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Sueddeutsche Zeitung on www.kraftwerk.de Date: 30 Mar 2000 21:23:16 +0200 On 29-Mar-00 A.D., Klaus Zaepke carved the following runes about "(kw) Sueddeutsche Zeitung on www.kraftwerk.de": > Todays online edition of the Sueddeutsche Zeitung features a brief=20 > review (German language) of www.kraftwerk.de: Quote: Nicht nur die Freunde der Musikgruppe sollten sich die Seiten ansehen= =20 und herumst=F6bern. Auch f=FCr Webseitengestalter lohnt sich der Ausf= lug. Yeah, the latter as a warning example... --=20 E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mats.kadmark@liber.se Subject: (kw) New mp3s Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:11:08 +0100 Hi, I just made a new upload on my page with the following two zipped mp3s in 128 kBit/s <> : Rueckstoss Gondoliere [ Live on German television, ARD Beat Club 1971 ] Expo 2000 jingle [ Infamously expensive jingle in German, English, French, Russian, Spanish and Japaneese ] Please be aware of the file size of the first one (10 MB).....would take quite a while on a poor modem connection, wouldn't it? Mats http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk P.S. Please send stuff and suggestions to add to my page, I've run out of new exciting photos and ideas...! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mats.kadmark@liber.se Subject: (kw) www.yamo.com Date: 31 Mar 2000 13:34:23 +0100 Hi, have you noticed that www.yamo.com is not so minimalistic anymore.....but the guy doesn't look very much like the good old Wolfgang... : - ) Mats http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) Schumann -Airwaves-Hutter Date: 31 Mar 2000 14:53:40 +0200 >Personally, I thought it interesting that Hutter would "borrow" from a piece >of classical music. If it was an unconscious, chance-filled coincidence that >Hutter happened to write the exact same melody in the exact same manner as >the late Mr. Schumann, then I'm the Pope's love-child. >Bruno van der Velde -Obviously everyone knows that Hutter studied piano for years. >Interesting. I wasn't aware of this. However, Schumann' s music is probably >considered in the public domain by now, so a sampling from it is not likely >to raise any eyebrows. Billy Joel "plagiarized" part of a Beethoven (I think >it was Beethoven) piece for his song "This Night" (from "An Innocent Man" >album), and acknowledged it in the liner notes. Don't know if Hutter made any >acknowledgement. >David M Ah no , I 've never read about Schumann quotation in KwK sleeves or Hutter's intervievs. I consider very strange that in the '70ies no-one criticized this choice, expecially in France , were Radioactivity sold well and music culture isn't neglected . Another KwK quotation of classical piano pieces , less striking ,we can find in Heimcomputer.( the big sequence starting after the vocal parts ). This is a better arranged extrapolation from a very particular 12 note group in a bar of a famous Chopin Valzer ( Op69 #1 ). Howewer , I don't want to build up flames against Hutter melodic solutions. He writes , despite KwK sound , very lyrical melodies. Is simply a question of awareness. :-) xelius -Evolution not rEvolution- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Schumann -Airwaves-Hutter Date: 31 Mar 2000 15:25:02 +0200 xelius wrote: > > >Personally, I thought it interesting that Hutter would "borrow" from a > piece > >of classical music. If it was an unconscious, chance-filled coincidence > that > >Hutter happened to write the exact same melody in the exact same manner as > >the late Mr. Schumann, then I'm the Pope's love-child. Great minds think alike they say. It can very well be that composers end up with the same theme without borrowing from each other. The Airwaves theme is not THAT big or complicated... I'm still wondering by the way, if Airwaves is played with a theremin. The song would be a good one to play with a theremin, both sound and content wise. Rick Jansen __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ S&H's a module and s&h's looking good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rick C" Subject: Re: (kw) Australian EXPO2000 Date: 31 Mar 2000 23:36:05 +0930 Hi CT, March 31,' 00 > Did you actually see the video? The one I have isn't enhanced... ........Yes, I did & it's as per the video clip shown recently on tv here. At the bottom, right hand corner of the front cover has printed........enhanced CD. I also received a reply from EMI Australia regarding the release of this cd single here. > Hi Rick, > > We released 1000 copies of the European version of the single so it will be > the > same as the import copy. > > If you think it's the import copy because of the price then hunt around for > one > of the overseas versions we released as it should be retailing for $8.95. > > regards, > > EMI Music # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Smits" Subject: Re: (kw) New mp3s Date: 31 Mar 2000 04:38:43 PST Anton Corbijn, a photographer who made pictures of U2 and Depeche Mode, also made some pictures from Kraftwerk. There is small one on this page: http://www.photogenic.net/ But there seem to be more, which I've never seen. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Smits" Subject: Re: (kw) New mp3s Date: 31 Mar 2000 04:34:57 PST Anton Corbijn, a photographer who made pictures of U2 and Depeche Mode, also made some pictures from Kraftwerk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) New mp3s Date: 31 Mar 2000 19:35:16 +0200 > > http://www.photogenic.net/ > > But there seem to be more, which I've never seen. > It looks like the pictures which are in a hotel in Sweden, I have a picture of them at: http://home.swipnet.se/finarvas/musik/kraftwerk.html /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 31 Mar 2000 20:11:45 +0200 It seems that R+F definitely gave up the domain kraftwerk.com. Try http://www.kraftwerk.com Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Toby Cole" Subject: (kw) Videos Date: 31 Mar 2000 19:31:24 +0100 Hi, I'm relatively new to the list, and have been lurking for the past 3 months or so. Anyway, obviously I'm interested in Kraftwerk! Since I was about 7 or 8 when my brother used to play Autobahn, and I'm 26 now! The main reason for this post is to let the list members know I have a couple of videos up for download in mpeg format. The first is an animation for Autobahn directed by John Halas, from the early eighties I think, which can be found here http://www.btinternet.com/~t.o.b.y/content/video/kraftwerk/Autobahn_small.mp g and is 47.8 MB !!. The second is a more recent broadcast of Expo2000 which appeared on British television on Top of The Pops 2 which can be found here http://www.btinternet.com/~t.o.b.y/content/video/kraftwerk/kw_totp2.mpg and is 28.8 MB. I also have some audio that will be up in the coming weeks. Toby Cole -- mobile e-mail : toby@locust.co.uk (max 800 chrs) e-mail : toby@klingklang.co.uk web : http://klingklang.dyndns.org or http://www.klingklang.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Videos Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:11:05 -0800 >The main reason for this post is to let the list members know I have a >couple of videos up for download in mpeg format. >Toby Cole Hi Toby! Thanks for putting up those two mpg videos! That was an act of supreme coolness. I'd never seen either of them before. "Autobahn" was unbelievably psychedelic, I guess it makes sense considering the time period. The host on "Top of the Pops" introduced Kraftwerk as "these embarrassing buffoons"! I've never seen "Top of the Pops" before, is the host usually sarcastic? Their apperance was great, though; their low-tech robots are so uncommercial! The whole thing was surreal. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) OT (CDNow) Date: 31 Mar 2000 12:42:37 -0700 Go to http://www.cdnow.com/ Click on "Electronic/Dance" and look at this week's features: Recoil's Alan Wilder (ex-DM) picks his top ten of all time (guess who's at number 4); and there's also an article called: "Electronic Music's Most Influential Band?" dedicated (mostly) to Kraftwerk's TEE, and how they reshaped modern music (like we didn't knew that already, duh!) Enrique NP: "music has the right to children" boards of Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/