From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 08:51:21 +0200 My opinion: This is what KRAFTWERK officially do: > > But he said Kraftwerk are in the studio working on new material And this is what they really do: > Hmm, let me think: Drinking black coffee, re-programming their robots, and > sometimes cashig up 400000.- DM. Well, just thoughts. > > Well, all in all a "168 Stunden Arbeitswoche", as Mr. Huetter told in an 1991 > interview ;-). Wer's glaubt wird selig. Who believes becomes happy. Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 08:51:31 +0200 Bravo! And when will that be? ;-) Gunnar Modular77@aol.com wrote: > whatever! the next kraftwerk LP will be released the same week the next my > bloody valentine LP is released! also.. by total coincidence, syd barrett > will give an exclusive interview to NME! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Subject: SV: (kw) Live confusion... Date: 01 Jun 2000 13:54:00 +0000 This is already a classic question, but here we go again. Yes, the "Belgium" bootleg was recorded in Paris. Just listen to the Autobahn lyrics. To deal with other bootleg confusion visit http://go.to/tradespot and click on "bootleg guide". /marcus/ ________________ Kraftwerk Tradespot http://go.to/tradespot -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Ivo.Peeters@village.uunet.be Skickat: den 31 maj 2000 19:34 Till: LRK; kraftwerk@xmission.com; Ivo.Peeters@village.uunet.be (MIME) Ämne: Re: (kw) Live confusion... Probably it is indeed recorded in Paris. On a lot of bootlegs the location is (intentionally?) wrong. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lrk@ik2000.se Subject: (kw) For Swedish lisites - Off topic Date: 01 Jun 2000 13:54:00 +0000 Sorry this is an off topic message for Swedish listies (but since more than 50% of the postings seem to be OT nowadays perhaps it's not a big deal.) Hej svenskar! Jag undrar om någon spelade in P3 Lives sändning från SAMA med Mesh för ett antal veckor sedan? Jag är också mycket intresserad av att få tag på andra inspelningar med synthband som P3 Live gjort. T ex SPOCK, And One, Mobile Homes, etc. Jag har en hel del Kraftwerkinspelningar i utbyte. Kolla på http://go.to/tradespot Tacksam för alla svar! /marcus/ (För att få snabbare svar vänligen posta till tradespot@yesbox.net istället för denna adress.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 14:08:06 +0200 Gunnar wrote: > My opinion /.../ this is what they really do: >=20 > > Hmm, let me think: Drinking black coffee, re-programming their robots= , and > > sometimes cashig up 400000.- DM. You could put it like that. However, you could also say that in the last= thirteen years they've patented a 'system for synthesising and singing in real time,' transferre= d all their musical data (or at least fifteen years worth) from analog to digital mediums, finally= managed to motorise their mannequins, performed some 40+ concerts, taken part in seven festivals/ex= hibitions, released a compilation of re-recorded work (Top 20 in the UK), released three new si= ngles (re-released an old one), made two new videos, supplied MTV Europe and Expo 2000 with jingles= , co-developed a MIDI analog sequencer, set up a website, and had their redesigned mannequins p= erform on TOTP - inbetween consuming loads of java and cycling lots more than you need to = unless you're a pro. What with the growing echelons of aging rock stars this might not seem very im= pressive. But honestly, how many 40/50 year old punters do you know how can compare? - Tous =E0 = v=E9lo! -- Per instrumenta mea quaero meipsum # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Computerspotting Date: 01 Jun 2000 13:13:06 +0200 Richard Marston wrote: > Does anybody know what make of computer is shown on the front cover of the > Computer World / Computerwelt album? Perhaps at the time it was some > 'cutting edge' type of design, but to my eyes it looks rather quaint, like > an old-style phone or car. I see that the designer has masked a part of the > front -- perhaps to hide a brand name in order to make the machine more > generic? I think it can be an IBM since the same year this album was released International Business Machines featured their "IBM PC", the first commercial personal computer in the history. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes CD for trade Date: 01 Jun 2000 07:51:08 -0700 My Mobile Homes CD (Japanese import, pristine condition) could be yours! Trade ONLY. I take CD-R's too. Drop me a line. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Reed" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 17:54:28 +0100 I prefer to think of it this way : One Kraftwerk Year is the equivalent to Six Human Years. Therefore, Kraftwerk have been surprisingly busy this Kraftwerk Year. My estimation is that they have done 48 months work in the last 13 years, and that's being generous. Mark ----- Original Message ----- I'm feeling generous so lets account for it .... >in the last thirteen years they've >patented a 'system for synthesising and singing in real time,' 6 months >transferred all their musical data >(or at least fifteen years worth) from analog to digital mediums 8 months >finally managed to motorise their >mannequins, 2 months >performed some 40+ concerts, taken part in seven festivals/exhibitions, 2 months >released a compilation of re-recorded work (Top 20 in the UK), released three new singles (re-released an old >one), 12 months >made two new videos, 2 months > supplied MTV Europe and Expo 2000 with jingles, 30 minutes > co-developed a MIDI analog sequencer, 6 months > set up a website, unless they do all the HTML themselves (as The Sisters Of Mercy site is done completely by them), 3 weeks. >and had their redesigned mannequins perform on TOTP - 1 day # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) mini calcolatore addendum Date: 01 Jun 2000 21:08:25 +0200 Hi werkers, Der Automat wrote: >In the Kraftwerk bootlegs "Hyper Cerebral Machine" (Vox Populi - WORK >5536-2, recorded live at the Apollo Theatre in Firenze, Italy, May 19th >1981) and "Security Device" (bootleg LP, live in Milan), during the >performance of Pocket Calculator Huetter says instead of "I'm the operator >of my pocket >calculator" the Italian translation "sono l'operatore del mio piccolo >calcolatore"=2E Referring to the very first debute of the italian version at 'Discoring', I hope my memory doesn't err (it's more than 18 years), Ralf sung 'min=EC calcolatore'=2E I remind again : The bleep sequences triggered by Florian's modified pocket calculator were very dissimilar from the official tracks=2E Ralf voice was a bit out of tune and not well compressed and balanced on the music=2E It seemed to me like a playback version with vocal and bleeps live=2E =2E=2E=2E=2E=2E???!! At the end of the song Florian was joking ,making a 'V' with left hand fingers behind the head of the presenter=2E Can anyone (Italian aged fans that remind the show ) add more details? Recorded documents exising?? ^^^^^^^^^^( ( ((=B0)) ) )^^^^^^^^^^^ A tutti i fans prossimi a Roma o Milano: E' cos=EC difficile avere accesso ad un archivio RAI??? Qualcuno ha informazioni in proposito?? Quanta documentazione video/audio su Kraftwerk si potrebbe rintracciare?? xelius@libero=2Eit ||||||| ||||||| ||||||| =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D----------////\\\\__***= '' ' ' Evolution - not - rEvolution # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Modular77@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:55:20 EDT In a message dated 6/1/00 10:07:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, thegenius@btinternet.com writes: << One Kraftwerk Year is the equivalent to Six Human Years. Therefore, Kraftwerk have been surprisingly busy this Kraftwerk Year. My estimation is that they have done 48 months work in the last 13 years, and that's being generous. >> SIGH!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: RE: (kw) Computerspotting Date: 01 Jun 2000 22:22:19 +0200 automat@offcampus.net writes: > >I think it can be an IBM Korrekt! It is an IBM! ---joseph > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 14:04:42 -0700 >You could put it like that. However, you could also say that in the last >thirteen years they've >patented a 'system for synthesising and singing in real time,' transferred >all their musical data >(or at least fifteen years worth) from analog to digital mediums, finally >managed to motorise their >mannequins, performed some 40+ concerts, taken part in seven >festivals/exhibitions, released a >compilation of re-recorded work (Top 20 in the UK), released three new >singles (re-released an old >one), made two new videos, supplied MTV Europe and Expo 2000 with jingles, >co-developed a MIDI >analog sequencer, set up a website, and had their redesigned mannequins >perform on TOTP - >inbetween consuming loads of java and cycling lots more than you need to >unless you're a pro. What >with the growing echelons of aging rock stars this might not seem very >impressive. But honestly, >how many 40/50 year old punters do you know how can compare? - Tous =E0 v= =E9lo! Right on!!! Nay-sayers take heed, Lech speeks the truth. Another thing to consider is that digital recording equipment from 1990 was a lot different than the equipment of 2000, or even 1995. It probably took them a long time to transfer everything digitally, compared to today's high-speed standards. The weird thing is that people seem to EXPECT Kraftwerk to stay busy and release an album every year. Why should they? They can do whatever they want. I bet a lot of people don't do the same things consistantly for 30 years... ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: (kw) Senior Coconut... Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Señor Coconut is just one of many names used by Uwe Schmidt, a german musician living in chile. He is known as Atom Heart, Lassigue Bendthaus, and loads of other names. For an almost complete (and huge) discography, go to http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/atom_heart/ Petter --- Larry LaCost Jr wrote: > Someone had posted all of Senior Coconut's official > releases. I would really appreciate it if this could > be reposted. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: RE: (kw) Computerspotting Date: 01 Jun 2000 22:22:19 +0200 automat@offcampus.net writes: > >I think it can be an IBM Korrekt! It is an IBM! ---joseph > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) Computer World cover Date: 01 Jun 2000 17:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Re the thing on the cover of CW: An IBM what? It doesn't look like any IBM machine I've ever seen. But consider the following: - It's obviously an artist's rendition. - There are no large keys that could be enter, shift, tab etc. Granted these weren't always large, but I've never seen a machine with a small enter key. - The function keys are abnormal. - No machine of that configuration (that I know of) had graphical capabilities able to display the picture shown. - The strange rectangle above the keyboard on the left appears to serve no purpose. This is probably where the brand would be. So I conclude that it's an artist's interpretation of the popular image of a computer at the time, drawn with reference to some catalog pictures but deliberately made to look like no real model. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Computer World cover Date: 01 Jun 2000 20:02:40 EDT >>So I conclude that it's an artist's interpretation of the popular image of a computer at the time, drawn with reference to some catalog pictures but deliberately made to look like no real model. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */<< Hey Soliel, glad to hear you responding again! Well it's obviously an artists rendition but I'm fairly certain that they got the idea from the old TRS-80 style computer! Therefore I agree with you! :-) Gees what a topic! *ROTFLOL* I can't wait for KW to do something publicly so we can talk about something N E W!!!! Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Latest werks [Was: Music News of the World] Date: 02 Jun 2000 02:39:44 +0200 Jason P wrote: > It probably took them a long time to transfer everything digitally, com= pared to today's high-speed standards. They used a Synclavier. I rest my case. =20 > The weird thing is that people seem to EXPECT Kraftwerk to stay busy an= d release an album every year. Especially when there are other intersting things to life. Like girls, d= iscos, java, and bikes. -- -Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:34:31 +0100 Date: 02 Jun 2000 04:37:42 -0600 Thanks for all the replies about the 'Computer World' cover image. I'll admit it was a bit of an "anal" topic ("Gees what a topic! *ROTFLOL*", as Christian wrote), but I'm planning a small project at the moment and I needed some input from the List people to move things along a bit. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) Latest werks [Was: Music News of the World] Date: 02 Jun 2000 11:29:11 GMT Lech wrote:- >Especially when there are other intersting things to life. Like girls, >discos, java, and bikes. Where did this connection between Kraftwerk and Java come along? The last thing I expected them to be was computer nerds. Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but Java... erm. Well, let's just say that I HOPE they don't study Java. Sorry all. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Latest werks [Was: Music News of the World] Date: 02 Jun 2000 13:05:17 +0000 Matthew Large wrote: > Where did this connection between Kraftwerk and Java come along? > The last thing I expected them to be was computer nerds. > Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but Java... > erm. Well, let's just say that I HOPE they don't study Java. Keep your disgusting Javaphobic comments off this email list, you you... rotten blighter, you! K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Caffè Corretto [Was: Latest werks] Date: 02 Jun 2000 14:29:22 +0200 Matthew L lamented: > Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but Ja= va... You need a cup of my famous java... One shot (about 1-=BD ounces, or 3 t= ablespoons) of espresso served in a 2-=BD-ounce cup, laced with a shot of brandy or liqueur. -- - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) Caffè Corretto [Was: Latest werks] Date: 02 Jun 2000 13:48:45 GMT >Matthew L lamented: > > Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but >Java... > Lech said: >You need a cup of my famous java... One shot (about 1-½ ounces, or 3 >tablespoons) of espresso >served in a 2-½-ounce cup, laced with a shot of brandy or liqueur. That sounds like one mean mother of a caffeine hit, plus alcohol. Next time I'm in your area...? and I take back all I said about java nerds - it is clear to me that I know nothing of the coffee industry, but hey, I'm english; I drink tea! Have fun all, now I unlock these shackles and RUN, RUN, RUUUNN! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: (kw) Latest werks [Was: Actually On Topic At Some Point, I Think...] Date: 02 Jun 2000 12:15:39 -0700 >> Where did this connection between Kraftwerk and Java come along? >> The last thing I expected them to be was computer nerds. >> Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but Java... >> erm. Well, let's just say that I HOPE they don't study Java. > >Keep your disgusting Javaphobic comments off this email list, you you... >rotten blighter, you! HTML is the language God intended for us to use... And I, in my infinite compassion, feel nothing but pity for those filthy perverts using Java. Oh yeah, and those Cold Fusion types are a bunch of dummy-heads! (hee hee) ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 02 Jun 2000 21:31:20 +0000 > What's all this I hear about a recording involving Karl and Austrian performance artist > Wolfgang Flatz? The single ("Wunderkind") is scheduled for June 12th. The album ("Love & Violence") is scheduled for June 26th. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 03 Jun 2000 01:53:03 EDT In a message dated 6/2/00 3:32:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, k_z@gmx.de writes: << The single ("Wunderkind") is scheduled for June 12th. The album ("Love & Violence") is scheduled for June 26th. Klaus Zaepke >> Do you know where these will be available? Would it be in the normal X-port stores for people in the US or would we have to get them through some Internet store? Thanx......Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Latest werks [Was: Music News of the World] Date: 03 Jun 2000 08:43:55 +0200 On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 02:39:44 +0200, Lech wrote: >> The weird thing is that people seem to EXPECT Kraftwerk to stay busy and release an album every year. > >Especially when there are other intersting things to life. Like girls, discos, java, and bikes. Keep in mind that they are about 53 years old.... But maybe they have a familly, Ralf's parents must be quite old now so they have to worry about them, etc.... After all, there are not robots so they probably have a life much more normal that we could think of. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sam Brown" Subject: (kw) request Date: 03 Jun 2000 10:47:13 GMT hi all! does anybody have pictures of ralf and florian when they were children und could post some scans,please? and does anybody know what amount of power the whole klingklang-equipment (instruments,lights,robots) needs? thanks sam ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 03 Jun 2000 13:07:59 +0000 > << The single ("Wunderkind") is scheduled for June 12th. The album > ("Love & Violence") is scheduled for June 26th. > > Do you know where these will be available? Would it be in the normal X-port > stores for people in the US or would we have to get them through some > Internet store? As these appear to be regular releases, they should be available from the usual suppliers. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) request Date: 03 Jun 2000 18:27:55 GMT Sam said: >does anybody have pictures of ralf and florian when they were children und >could post some scans,please? >and does anybody know what amount of power the whole klingklang-equipment >(instruments,lights,robots) needs? what a funny pair of questions! I hope someone can help her! :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: (kw) Ot pictures of Expo 2000 Date: 03 Jun 2000 16:12:58 EDT There are some photo's from Expo 2000 from AOL if anyone wanrts to check them out. There aren't any of KW!!!!:-( But see what you think of this one....http://my.aol.com/photogalleries/myaolcom.tmpl?gallery=expo&photo=11 Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Pedoto" Subject: (kw) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 16:40:30 -0400 Date: 03 Jun 2000 14:38:00 -0600 Does anybody know what make of computer is shown on the front cover of the >Computer World / Computerwelt album? That may not even technically be a computer. I believe it's what's called a "dumb terminal". If it's the same terminals I worked on in the mid 80s, it's simply a CRT and keyboard connected to a mainframe. It has no drives and no real computing power. Gary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cancerperson" Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 16:40:30 -0400 Date: 03 Jun 2000 23:11:22 -0500 if someone had the spare time, they could check out http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/ and see if anything there looks similar. I would, but Everquest calls. :) -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s: a-- C+++ UL P+ L++ E---- W+ N++ o- K w M- V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5- X++ R+ tv b+++ DI++ D++ G e>++ h! r-->++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.omn.net/~kpbloke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) Tour de France original version Date: 04 Jun 2000 17:14:16 +1000 On that note, does anyone have: Bartos, Karl & others - TOUR DE FRANCE (CD) 21 tracks incl. Karl Bartos - Tour de France '98 (remix) I'd love to hear some mp3's. :-) Vladimir Tittl __________________________________ http://living-net.com Uncompromised Hosting Solutions mailto:vt@living-net.com Phone: (+61) 0500 57 5557 Fax: (+61) 03 5165 3463 __________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: Remixes. WAS: Re: (kw) My thoughts on ABItK Date: 03 Jun 2000 21:24:58 -0400 >>> awful is the best you get when you buy a cd from Cleopatra! <<< Well said! But, I have to admit, they did release a triple-CD of some classic house from the legendary Trax Records. However, there were no liner notes or credits of any kind! At least they were mastered at the correct speed, and the sound quality is acceptable. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) test ... 1 , 2 , 3 ... check ... ;-) Date: 04 Jun 2000 13:10:45 +0200 hi y' all ! florian schneider is still a gigolo !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) ( sorry ... jus' kiddin' !!! ;-) your "virtual" ROBOT mate , OH JAY ;-) p. s. : this message was send on sun. , the 04th of june around 13:10 cet ! ( after i've jus' re-subscribed myself again ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tjodolf Ulriksen" Subject: RE: Re: (kw) continued... maybe the end Date: 04 Jun 2000 09:13:31 -0700 >From: "Matthew Large" >To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (kw) continued... maybe the end >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:32:25 GMT > > >CAN EVERYONE REACTING TO THIS PLEASE SHUTUP!!!! > >I AM BORED, BORED, BORED OF THIS TOPIC. > >GO AND TALK IN 'ALT.CONVERSATION.I-REALLY-GIVE-A-SHIT-ABOUT-ALL-THIS' IF YOU >REALLY MUST TALK ABOUT THIS COMPLETELY UNRELATED KRAFTWERK TOPIC. > >OR, IN THE RATHER SPLENDID WORDS OF micROBOT, 'FUCK OFF'! > >THANKYOU Wow, we're getting a reaction! Cool! I like stuff that's cool. Hey, Gary, let's do niggers the next time, shall we? AM Support Team / PornIndustry.com / webmaster@pornindustry.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:53:37 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "KRAFTWERK" Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:51 AM > My opinion: > > This is what KRAFTWERK officially do: > > > > But he said Kraftwerk are in the studio working on new material > > And this is what they really do: > > > Hmm, let me think: Drinking black coffee, re-programming their robots, and > > sometimes cashig up 400000.- DM. > > Well, just thoughts. > > > Well, all in all a "168 Stunden Arbeitswoche", as Mr. Huetter told in an 1991 > > interview ;-). > > Wer's glaubt wird selig. Who believes becomes happy. > > Gunnar *hehehe* ;-))) but gunnar , u ( & all the others 2 ;-) have 2 keep in mind what mr. huetter also said jus' recently in an interview ! ;-) : " ich sehe mich mehr als HERR KRAFTWERK !!! " ( i c myself more as MISTER POWER STATION !!! ;-) so an 168 hours workin' week seems 2 be quite KorreKt in this direction !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) btw : what does florian thinks about all that ??? ... & fritz ??? ... & henning ??? *most_curious* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) ... workin' 168 hours a week 2 !!! *LOLA* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) hopefully NOT continued... Date: 31 May 2000 13:17:24 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:35 PM > the new ROBOT voice ;-) wrote: > > > excuse me , but can lazlo nibble ( or anybody else who's authorized ! ) > > please unsubscribe this bloody sucker from this list ??? *grim* > > > > only 2 gary : FUCK YOURSELF U " FACIST PIECE OF SHIT " !!! ( 2 say it in > > your own words ! ;-) > > we don't need flamers & spammers like u on this list !!! SO FUCK OFF !!! > > Heaven forbid we should have any flamers on the list. But since you mention > Lazlo, here's a reminder of the Official Word: > > http://www.studio-nibble.com/lists/kraftwerk.info > > > * If someone else is misbehaving on the list, please EMAIL THE LIST > > OWNER (owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com). Do NOT try to deal > > with the situation yourself; this almost always results in more > > problems than it solves. thanx a lot kevin 4 your "reminder" !!! ;-) btw : my response 2 gary's last mail 2 the list was simply out of my anger about people like him , who have ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN' 2 SAY about the main topiK of the list & only love 2 throw flame-baits @ the list 2 make other people react in anger !!! *grim* :-/ anyway ... i like 2 apologize 4 my rude words on the list ... but i don't apologize 2 gary !!! he simply deserves 2 be unsubscribed from this list ASAP !!! > > The following kinds of messages are *never* welcome on the list -- posting > > them may result in your being banned from posting or removed from the list. > > > > * Flames and/or attacks on other list members > > > etc. > > That seems pretty clear to me. > > Gary Pedoto wrote: > > > Oh yeah, by the way, it's... "I **COULDN'T** care less", Bob. > > I think that's what you mean...right? > > "I could care less" seems to be the standard American English usage (or so > it seems from other email I have seen). That variant doesn't make sense, > though, it's true. > > Kevin > A speaker of the Queen's English > (if you'll all pardon the pun). however ... many friendly greetinx ( x-cept 2 gary !!! ) from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: Re: (kw) Antenna sound loop Date: 31 May 2000 16:38:30 +0200 http://www.kraftwerk.com/sounds/antenna.au ciao, *luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Computerspotting Date: 31 May 2000 15:45:49 +0200 I don't know the exact make/model, but for sure it's a terminal and not a PC (and BTW, it looked "old-fashioned" to me even back in 1981). It could be an old Tektronix graphic terminal or even a complete artifact - the lack of ventilation grilles puzzles me. Maybe it is a German brand (Siemens?) ciao, *luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Pedoto" Subject: Re: (kw) continued... Date: 31 May 2000 22:09:02 -0400 > To: lpmj@worldnet.att.net > Cc: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (kw) continued... > Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:24 PM > > My God, what is your problem? You must be pretty young. I couldn't imagine > someone in their 20s or 30s carrying on this way. > > Lisa I'm sure you couldn't, Lisa Gary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:53:37 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "KRAFTWERK" Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:51 AM > My opinion: > > This is what KRAFTWERK officially do: > > > > But he said Kraftwerk are in the studio working on new material > > And this is what they really do: > > > Hmm, let me think: Drinking black coffee, re-programming their robots, and > > sometimes cashig up 400000.- DM. > > Well, just thoughts. > > > Well, all in all a "168 Stunden Arbeitswoche", as Mr. Huetter told in an 1991 > > interview ;-). > > Wer's glaubt wird selig. Who believes becomes happy. > > Gunnar *hehehe* ;-))) but gunnar , u ( & all the others 2 ;-) have 2 keep in mind what mr. huetter also said jus' recently in an interview ! ;-) : " ich sehe mich mehr als HERR KRAFTWERK !!! " ( i c myself more as MISTER POWER STATION !!! ;-) so an 168 hours workin' week seems 2 be quite KorreKt in this direction !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) btw : what does florian thinks about all that ??? ... & fritz ??? ... & henning ??? *most_curious* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) ... workin' 168 hours a week 2 !!! *LOLA* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:56:53 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:51 AM > Modular77@aol.com wrote: > > > whatever! the next kraftwerk LP will be released the same week the next my > > bloody valentine LP is released! also.. by total coincidence, syd barrett > > will give an exclusive interview to NME! > > Bravo! And when will that be? ;-) > > Gunnar hopefully in this MILLENNIUM !!! *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Morrison Subject: (kw) the price is right? Date: 01 Jun 2000 14:59:01 +0100 (BST) Folks, Can someone point me in the direction of a web page which lists the current going price of KW material (esp vinyl LP's & 12" to buy and sell). I've had a hunt around the 'Busbykg' links page but haven't seen anything obvious. Also tried online vinyl shops but few have any KW materials listed. Cheers, AlanM alan.morrison@oucs.ox.ac.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ilych@aol.com Subject: (kw) re: kw (continued) Date: 01 Jun 2000 14:02:09 EDT I must agree with the microbot. I did not join this list to be insulted, nor did I expect anyone else on this otherwise peaceful list to be insulted either. He's the only one keeping this ridiculous dialogue alive; I thought if enough people ignored him, he'd go away or shut up; apparently, that's not going to happen. Kick the fascist piece of shit off the list. Bruno V. > There's nothing better than arguing with people who prove your arguement > for you. I just have to sit back and enjoy. > It's been a few weeks now since I had the nerve to voice an opposing > opinion on the subject of homosexuality. I haven't said a word in weeks > and yet, there are still facist pieces of shit out there attacking me. > Most people would have realized that the arguement is over. You're acting > like a bunch of little girls...oh wait...that's right...I almost forgot who > I was talking to. > > Gary >excuse me , but can lazlo nibble ( or anybody else who's authorized ! ) >please unsubscribe this bloody sucker from this list ??? *grim* >only 2 gary : FUCK YOURSELF U " FACIST PIECE OF SHIT " !!! ( 2 say it in >your own words ! ;-) >we don't need flamers & spammers like u on this list !!! SO FUCK OFF !!! >however ... many greetinx ( x-cept 2 gary ! ) from micROBOT " the new ROBOT >voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Computer World ... covered !!! ;-) ... & other nice little stories !!! ;-))) Date: 02 Jun 2000 02:43:27 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 2:02 AM > Hey Soliel, glad to hear you responding again! hey chris , glad 2 hear u "remixin'" some responses then !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Well it's obviously an artists rendition ... REALLY ??? R U S(H)URE ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > but I'm fairly certain that they got the idea from the old TRS-80 style computer! NOPE !!! they got the idea from my old SHARP MZ-80A !!! *hehehe* ;-))) florian once took a photo of it as he visted me in my little mansion way back in the early 80s !!! *CSROTFLOL4AW* ;-))) " that kind of computer would look great on the cover of our next record !!! " he said 2 me !!! *SROTFLOL* ;-))) > Therefore I agree with you! :-) thank u , chris !!! *sly_grin* ;-))) > Gees what a topic! *ROTFLOL* well ... we can also talk about the pattern of the table-cloth on the poster of the limited TEE edition then !!! *guess_what_???_SROTFLOL4ST* ;-))) > I can't wait for KW to do something publicly so we can talk about something N E W!!!! ditto !!! ;-) oh , only fyi : kw's new album - titled "network" ! ;-) - will be released on july the 24th ( this year ??? ;-))) !!! *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) > Electronically (*LOL*), > > Christian ;-) btw : du sprichst kein deutsch ??? try this : www.freetranslation.com !!! ;-) it's a FREE text & web page translator as well !!! ;-) always good 4 a laugh ... or 2 ... or 3 ... or more !!! *LOLA* ;-))) au-to-ma-tic-ally yours , *shiny_metallic_ROBOT-grin_on_my_pretty_face* ;-))) your "virtual" ROBOT mate , OH JAY ;-) a.k.a. el doctore jones a.k.a. the "incredible" micronaut a.k.a. micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " a.k.a. ... ... & so on until the dawn of the next millennium !!! *GGG* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Latest werks [Was: Music News of the World] Date: 02 Jun 2000 14:12:56 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:29 PM > Lech wrote:- > > >Especially when there are other intersting things to life. Like girls, > >discos, java, and bikes. > > > Where did this connection between Kraftwerk and Java come along? > The last thing I expected them to be was computer nerds. > Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but Java... > erm. Well, let's just say that I HOPE they don't study Java. hm ? well ... maybe not java - the language ... maybe java - THE ISLAND !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Sorry all. i don't mind , "big" matt !!! *G* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: (kw) jus' another test ! ;-) simply IGNORE this 2 !!! ;-) Date: 04 Jun 2000 12:27:32 +0200 hm ? well ... my last 4 messages 2 this list ( send between may 31st & june 2nd ! ) haven't appeared on it ... by now !!! :-/ now i'm a little impatient indeed !!! ;-) maybe i'll unsubscribe myself & re-subscribe me again later if this message also doesn't make it 2 the list in the next 24 hours !!! :-/ hopefully it'll work out much better then !!! ;-) i'm really a bit disappointed of this ALL 2 LOOONG DELAY !!! :-/ replies r comin' in 2 original messages i haven't read before doesn't make any sense @ all 2 me !!! :-/ so WHY DON'T WE ALL CHANGE 2 AN EGROUPS LIST then ??? *most_curious* on an egroups list u have much more possibilities & ALL MESSAGES comin' through VERY FAST indeed !!! ;-) btw : if u want 2 check it out , jus' pay a visit 2 this egroups list : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans ! ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) p. s. : this message was send on sun. , the 04th of june around 12:25 cet ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) well ... jus' another summary of my last messages 2 this list ... once again !!! ;-) Date: 04 Jun 2000 13:44:45 +0200 +++ message # 01 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "KRAFTWERK" Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:51 AM > My opinion: > > This is what KRAFTWERK officially do: > > > > But he said Kraftwerk are in the studio working on new material > > And this is what they really do: > > > Hmm, let me think: Drinking black coffee, re-programming their robots, > > and sometimes cashig up 400000.- DM. > > Well, just thoughts. > > > Well, all in all a "168 Stunden Arbeitswoche", as Mr. Huetter told in an > > 1991 interview ;-). > > Wer's glaubt wird selig. Who believes becomes happy. > > Gunnar *hehehe* ;-))) but gunnar , u ( & all the others 2 ;-) have 2 keep in mind what mr. huetter also said jus' recently in an interview ! ;-) : " ich sehe mich mehr als HERR KRAFTWERK !!! " ( i c myself more as MISTER POWER STATION !!! ;-) so an 168 hours workin' week seems 2 be quite KorreKt in this direction !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) btw : what does florian thinks about all that ??? ... & fritz ??? ... & henning ??? *most_curious* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) ... workin' 168 hours a week 2 !!! *LOLA* ;-))) +++ message # 02 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:51 AM > Modular77@aol.com wrote: > > > whatever! the next kraftwerk LP will be released the same week the > > next my bloody valentine LP is released! also.. by total coincidence, > > syd barrett will give an exclusive interview to NME! > > Bravo! And when will that be? ;-) > > Gunnar hopefully in this MILLENNIUM !!! *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) +++ message # 03 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 2:02 AM > Hey Soliel, glad to hear you responding again! hey chris , glad 2 hear u "remixin'" some responses then !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Well it's obviously an artists rendition ... REALLY ??? R U S(H)URE ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > but I'm fairly certain that they got the idea from the old TRS-80 style > computer! NOPE !!! they got the idea from my old SHARP MZ-80A !!! *hehehe* ;-))) florian once took a photo of it as he visted me in my little mansion way back in the early 80s !!! *CSROTFLOL4AW* ;-))) " that kind of computer would look great on the cover of our next record !!! " he said 2 me !!! *SROTFLOL* ;-))) > Therefore I agree with you! :-) thank u , chris !!! *sly_grin* ;-))) > Gees what a topic! *ROTFLOL* well ... we can also talk about the pattern of the table-cloth on the poster of the limited TEE edition then !!! *guess_what_???_SROTFLOL4ST* ;-))) > I can't wait for KW to do something publicly so we can talk about > something N E W!!!! ditto !!! ;-) oh , only fyi : kw's new album - titled "network" ! ;-) - will be released on july the 24th ( this year ??? ;-))) !!! *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) > Electronically (*LOL*), > > Christian ;-) btw : du sprichst kein deutsch ??? try this : www.freetranslation.com !!! ;-) it's a FREE text & web page translator as well !!! ;-) always good 4 a laugh ... or 2 ... or 3 ... or more !!! *LOLA* ;-))) au-to-ma-tic-ally yours , *shiny_metallic_ROBOT-grin_on_my_pretty_face* ;-))) your "virtual" ROBOT mate , OH JAY ;-) a.k.a. el doctore jones a.k.a. the "incredible" micronaut a.k.a. micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " a.k.a. ... ... & so on until the dawn of the next millennium !!! *GGG* ;-))) +++ message # 04 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:29 PM > Lech wrote:- > > >Especially when there are other intersting things to life. Like girls, > >discos, java, and bikes. > > > Where did this connection between Kraftwerk and Java come along? > The last thing I expected them to be was computer nerds. > Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but > Java... erm. Well, let's just say that I HOPE they don't study Java. hm ? well ... maybe not java - the language ... maybe java - THE ISLAND !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Sorry all. i don't mind , "big" matt !!! *G* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) +++ message # 05 +++ hm ? well ... my last 4 messages 2 this list ( send between may 31st & june 2nd ! ) haven't appeared on it ... by now !!! :-/ now i'm a little impatient indeed !!! ;-) maybe i'll unsubscribe myself & re-subscribe me again later if this message also doesn't make it 2 the list in the next 24 hours !!! :-/ hopefully it'll work out much better then !!! ;-) i'm really a bit disappointed of this ALL 2 LOOONG DELAY !!! :-/ replies r comin' in 2 original messages i haven't read before doesn't make any sense @ all 2 me !!! :-/ so WHY DON'T WE ALL CHANGE 2 AN EGROUPS LIST then ??? *most_curious* on an egroups list u have much more possibilities & ALL MESSAGES comin' through VERY FAST indeed !!! ;-) btw : if u want 2 check it out , jus' pay a visit 2 this egroups list : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans ! ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) p. s. : this message was send on sun. , the 04th of june around 12:25 cet ! ;-) +++ end of summary ! ;-) +++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: (kw) well ... jus' another summary of my last messages 2 this list ... once again !!! ;-) Date: 04 Jun 2000 13:38:15 +0200 +++ message # 01 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "KRAFTWERK" Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:51 AM > My opinion: > > This is what KRAFTWERK officially do: > > > > But he said Kraftwerk are in the studio working on new material > > And this is what they really do: > > > Hmm, let me think: Drinking black coffee, re-programming their robots, > > and sometimes cashig up 400000.- DM. > > Well, just thoughts. > > > Well, all in all a "168 Stunden Arbeitswoche", as Mr. Huetter told in an > > 1991 interview ;-). > > Wer's glaubt wird selig. Who believes becomes happy. > > Gunnar *hehehe* ;-))) but gunnar , u ( & all the others 2 ;-) have 2 keep in mind what mr. huetter also said jus' recently in an interview ! ;-) : " ich sehe mich mehr als HERR KRAFTWERK !!! " ( i c myself more as MISTER POWER STATION !!! ;-) so an 168 hours workin' week seems 2 be quite KorreKt in this direction !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) btw : what does florian thinks about all that ??? ... & fritz ??? ... & henning ??? *most_curious* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) ... workin' 168 hours a week 2 !!! *LOLA* ;-))) +++ message # 02 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:51 AM > Modular77@aol.com wrote: > > > whatever! the next kraftwerk LP will be released the same week the > > next my bloody valentine LP is released! also.. by total coincidence, > > syd barrett will give an exclusive interview to NME! > > Bravo! And when will that be? ;-) > > Gunnar hopefully in this MILLENNIUM !!! *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) +++ message # 03 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 2:02 AM > Hey Soliel, glad to hear you responding again! hey chris , glad 2 hear u "remixin'" some responses then !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Well it's obviously an artists rendition ... REALLY ??? R U S(H)URE ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > but I'm fairly certain that they got the idea from the old TRS-80 style > computer! NOPE !!! they got the idea from my old SHARP MZ-80A !!! *hehehe* ;-))) florian once took a photo of it as he visted me in my little mansion way back in the early 80s !!! *CSROTFLOL4AW* ;-))) " that kind of computer would look great on the cover of our next record !!! " he said 2 me !!! *SROTFLOL* ;-))) > Therefore I agree with you! :-) thank u , chris !!! *sly_grin* ;-))) > Gees what a topic! *ROTFLOL* well ... we can also talk about the pattern of the table-cloth on the poster of the limited TEE edition then !!! *guess_what_???_SROTFLOL4ST* ;-))) > I can't wait for KW to do something publicly so we can talk about > something N E W!!!! ditto !!! ;-) oh , only fyi : kw's new album - titled "network" ! ;-) - will be released on july the 24th ( this year ??? ;-))) !!! *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) > Electronically (*LOL*), > > Christian ;-) btw : du sprichst kein deutsch ??? try this : www.freetranslation.com !!! ;-) it's a FREE text & web page translator as well !!! ;-) always good 4 a laugh ... or 2 ... or 3 ... or more !!! *LOLA* ;-))) au-to-ma-tic-ally yours , *shiny_metallic_ROBOT-grin_on_my_pretty_face* ;-))) your "virtual" ROBOT mate , OH JAY ;-) a.k.a. el doctore jones a.k.a. the "incredible" micronaut a.k.a. micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " a.k.a. ... ... & so on until the dawn of the next millennium !!! *GGG* ;-))) +++ message # 04 +++ ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:29 PM > Lech wrote:- > > >Especially when there are other intersting things to life. Like girls, > >discos, java, and bikes. > > > Where did this connection between Kraftwerk and Java come along? > The last thing I expected them to be was computer nerds. > Girls, discos and bikes are three very healthy, human pasttimes, but > Java... erm. Well, let's just say that I HOPE they don't study Java. hm ? well ... maybe not java - the language ... maybe java - THE ISLAND !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Sorry all. i don't mind , "big" matt !!! *G* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) +++ message # 05 +++ hm ? well ... my last 4 messages 2 this list ( send between may 31st & june 2nd ! ) haven't appeared on it ... by now !!! :-/ now i'm a little impatient indeed !!! ;-) maybe i'll unsubscribe myself & re-subscribe me again later if this message also doesn't make it 2 the list in the next 24 hours !!! :-/ hopefully it'll work out much better then !!! ;-) i'm really a bit disappointed of this ALL 2 LOOONG DELAY !!! :-/ replies r comin' in 2 original messages i haven't read before doesn't make any sense @ all 2 me !!! :-/ so WHY DON'T WE ALL CHANGE 2 AN EGROUPS LIST then ??? *most_curious* on an egroups list u have much more possibilities & ALL MESSAGES comin' through VERY FAST indeed !!! ;-) btw : if u want 2 check it out , jus' pay a visit 2 this egroups list : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans ! ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) p. s. : this message was send on sun. , the 04th of june around 12:25 cet ! ;-) +++ end of summary ! ;-) +++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: (kw) (mis?)use of KW-Antenna pic Date: 04 Jun 2000 23:57:03 +0200 Check out: http://www.grg21.ac.at/index.html ;-) Greets from vienna, Georgie -- *-*-*- * "Wir sind die Roboter" + KRAFTWERK + http://www.kraftwerk.com * * EXPO 2000 + Mensch-Natur-Technik + http://www.expo2000.de * * * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) + ICQ: 53829477 * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ + phone/SMS: +436765621850 * *-*-*-* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 05 Jun 2000 10:22:43 +0200 > > > whatever! the next kraftwerk LP will be released the same week the > next my > > > bloody valentine LP is released! also.. by total coincidence, syd > barrett > > > will give an exclusive interview to NME! > > > > Bravo! And when will that be? ;-) > > > > Gunnar > > hopefully in this MILLENNIUM !!! Na dann halten se sich mal 'ran, Herr KRAFTWERK ;-) > *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) Gesundheit! Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 05 Jun 2000 10:22:16 +0200 Following message is in German. It's for me the easiest and best way to explain my thoughts. I think now you know where you can get an translation ;-) Ich gebe nichts mehr um die Aussagen eines "Herrn KRAFTWERK". Für mich ist das dasselbe dumme Gewäsch, was er schon seit Jahren in Interviews von sich gibt ;-) Diese Mail von mir ("my opinion...") war auch mehr als Trotzreaktion auf meine Frustration gedacht, die inzwischen exponentiell zur Wartezeit auf ein neues (KRAFT)Werk unserer vier Düsseldorfer anwächst. Die Maxi "EXPO2000" war mir einfach zu wenig. KRAFTWERK haben es meiner Meinung nach zu sehr auf dir Spitze getrieben. Wohin das geführt hat: siehe "An Introduction To KRAFTWERK" well, try by myself: I don't trust in the arguments of MR KRAFTWERK any more. For me it's the same silly talking he is doing in interviews for years ;-) With my mail ("my opinion...") i just wanted to defy my frustration, which grows exponentially with the time of waiting for a new (KRAFT)work of our fab four from Duesseldorf. The maxi "EXPO2000" was too little for me. IMO KRAFTWERK just forced things to the peak, which ended in "An Introduction To KRAFTWERK" so far. Gunnar > *hehehe* ;-))) but gunnar , u ( & all the others 2 ;-) have 2 keep in mind > what mr. huetter also said jus' recently in an interview ! ;-) : " ich sehe > mich mehr als HERR KRAFTWERK !!! " ( i c myself more as MISTER POWER STATION > !!! ;-) > so an 168 hours workin' week seems 2 be quite KorreKt in this direction !!! > *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > btw : what does florian thinks about all that ??? ... & fritz ??? ... & > henning ??? *most_curious* ;-))) > > however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) > ... workin' 168 hours a week 2 !!! *LOLA* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:12:03 +0100 Date: 05 Jun 2000 03:27:47 -0600 the new ROBOT voice quoted Ralf as saying " ich sehe mich mehr als HERR KRAFTWERK !!! " -- does this mean the next KW release will be a solo album! http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: RE: (kw) the price is right? Date: 05 Jun 2000 10:34:26 +0100 Two UK based websites listing secondhand items are: Esprit International: http://www.eil.com (This is a secondhand and collectors item mail order company) Music and Video Exchange: http://www.mveshops.co.uk/ (This is a chain of shops in Notting Hill, London, one of which deals in ultra rare and promo items; click on the 'rarities catalogue' link on the home page -- there are a couple of Klang Box 101 sets there) Also worth a quick look is Intoxica: http://www.intoxica.demon.co.uk/index.htm This is a smallish secondhand shop in Portobello Road, London. I've found several amazingly rare Blue Note jazz albums there (I've been after for years) and they also have a 'Krautrock' section in their 70s part of the shop. Their online list isn't very detailed -- e-mail them a wish list and they'll check what they have. If you want to do your own detective work, try this site: http://www.birdpages.purplenet.co.uk/ > ---------- > From: Alan Morrison > Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2000 2:59 pm > > > Folks, > > Can someone point me in the direction of a web page which lists the > current going price of KW material (esp vinyl LP's & 12" to buy and > sell). I've had a hunt around the 'Busbykg' links page but haven't seen > anything obvious. Also tried online vinyl shops but few have any KW > materials listed. > > Cheers, > AlanM > alan.morrison@oucs.ox.ac.uk > > http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: FW: (kw) the price is right? Date: 05 Jun 2000 12:25:49 +0100 As well as all the websites I mentioed earlier, I thought I might as well plug this and do myself a favour: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/014051466X/qid%3D960204314/026-9949 055-2004406 ;-) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) To the naughty corner Date: 05 Jun 2000 12:59:50 +0000 Ilych@aol.com wrote: > Kick the fascist piece of shit off the list. Thanks so much for trying to help calm the situation. Here once again is the address for any complaints about the conduct of list members: owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com. I've just used it: if the boys and girls can't play nicely, teacher will have to be called in. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) Mexican Tour De France Date: 05 Jun 2000 22:12:42 +1000 Hi, > http://www.eil.com This place would have to be the biggest rip off place I've ever seen! However........ they have interesting items! Has anybody heard this? Do they sing in spanish? Artist/Title: KRAFTWERK El Baile De La Escoba (Rare Version Remezclada Mexican Tour De France 12", Spanish title p/s w/Breakdance credit, POP-661) Format: 12" RECORD/MAXI SINGLE Record Label: emi Catalogue No: POP-661 Country of Origin: Mexico Release Year: 1983 Thanks! Vladimir Tittl __________________________________ http://living-net.com Uncompromised Hosting Solutions mailto:vt@living-net.com Phone: (+61) 0500 57 5557 Fax: (+61) 03 5165 3463 __________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) the price is right? Date: 05 Jun 2000 15:41:51 +0200 You're involved in this book and no KW-album on the cover?!? ;-) /Joakim -----Original Message----- ...I thought I might as well plug this and do myself a favour... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: FW: (kw) the price is right? Date: 05 Jun 2000 15:21:52 +0100 I wasn't directly involed in the cover design (thank God) but I did manage to sqeeze in a photo of Klang Box 101 on a page inside by deciding to show various rare CDs 'in pro' with all the vinyl covers, thus creating space for it. The best part was I was able to obtain a copy of the above mentioned box set and claim the cost back on 'expenses' (he he he...) ;-) btw, Klang Box 101 is the 7th rarest record of the nineties (according to the author). > ---------- > From: Svensson, Joakim > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2000 2:41 pm > > > You're involved in this book and no KW-album on the cover?!? ;-) > > > http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 05 Jun 2000 10:22:16 +0200 Following message is in German. It's for me the easiest and best way to explain my thoughts. I think now you know where you can get an translation ;-) Ich gebe nichts mehr um die Aussagen eines "Herrn KRAFTWERK". F=FCr mich ist das dasselbe dumme Gew=E4sch, was er schon seit Jahren in Interviews von sich gibt ;-) Diese Mail von mir ("my opinion...") war auch mehr als Trotzreaktion auf meine Frustration gedacht, die inzwischen exponentiell zur Wartezeit auf ein neues (KRAFT)Werk unserer vier D=FCsseldorfer anw=E4chst. Die Maxi "EXPO2000" war mir einfach zu wenig. KRAFTWERK haben es meiner Meinung nach zu sehr auf dir Spitze getrieben. Wohin das gef=FChrt hat: siehe "An Introduction To KRAFTWERK" well, try by myself: I don't trust in the arguments of MR KRAFTWERK any more. For me it's the same silly talking he is doing in interviews for years ;-) With my mail ("my opinion...") i just wanted to defy my frustration, which grows exponentially with the time of waiting for a new (KRAFT)work of our fab four from Duesseldorf. The maxi "EXPO2000" was too little for me. IMO KRAFTWERK just forced things to the peak, which ended in "An Introduction To KRAFTWERK" so far. Gunnar > *hehehe* ;-))) but gunnar , u ( & all the others 2 ;-) have 2 keep in m= ind > what mr. huetter also said jus' recently in an interview ! ;-) : " ich = sehe > mich mehr als HERR KRAFTWERK !!! " ( i c myself more as MISTER POWER ST= ATION > !!! ;-) > so an 168 hours workin' week seems 2 be quite KorreKt in this direction= !!! > *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > btw : what does florian thinks about all that ??? ... & fritz ??? ... & > henning ??? *most_curious* ;-))) >=20 > however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) > ... workin' 168 hours a week 2 !!! *LOLA* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sen= der. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/= FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) To the naughty corner Date: 05 Jun 2000 12:59:50 +0000 Ilych@aol.com wrote: > Kick the fascist piece of shit off the list. Thanks so much for trying to help calm the situation. Here once again is the address for any complaints about the conduct of list members: owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com. I've just used it: if the boys and girls can't play nicely, teacher will have to be called in. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: Mexican Tour De France Date: 05 Jun 2000 19:04:10 +0200 Vladimir T wondered: > Has anybody heard [El Baile De La Escoba]? Do they sing in spanish? Nope. (http://home.t-online.de/home/0625138143/tour.htm) -- - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: To the naughty corner Date: 05 Jun 2000 19:08:01 +0200 Kevin B wrote: > I've just used it: if the boys and girls can't play nicely, teacher wil= l have to be called in. ...or if your really feel the need to spank each other in public, try http://www.takeitoffline.com/ Go ahead. Spank yerselves silly. -- - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Fluer lecture in Darmstadt Date: 05 Jun 2000 19:38:56 +0000 Todays Darmstaedter Echo has a report (German language) on Wolfgang Fluer's recent Kraftwerk lecture in Darmstadt: http://www.echo-online.de/suedhessen/detail.php3?id=35863 (possibly only available today). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) Wolfgang's Lecture Date: 05 Jun 2000 10:56:50 -0700 (PDT) If anyone could kindly translate the relevant info regarding Wolfgang's lecture from Klaus Zaepke's recent post to English, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Jason :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Krumbein" Subject: Re: (kw) Wolfgang's Lecture Date: 05 Jun 2000 11:40:55 -0700 http://world.altavista.com/ Check out that URL. You can put in a website address, and a language, and it'll translate it for you. It did an okay job, to the point where I could understand it, basically ;) Adam Krumbein Senior News Editor, 3D Portal Network http://www.3dportal.com http://www.halflife.net http://www.utworld.net http://www.dukeworld.com http://www.soldieroffortune.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: S T O P I T *N O W*! (Was: Re: (kw) re: kw (continued)) Date: 04 Jun 2000 21:59:00 +0200 I've kept quiet so far, but that does it! On 01-Jun-00 A.D., Ilych@aol.com carved the following runes about "(kw) re: kw (continued)": > I must agree with the microbot. I did not join this list to be insulted, > nor did I expect anyone else on this otherwise peaceful list to be > insulted either. Correct. > He's the only one keeping this ridiculous dialogue alive; I thought if > enough people ignored him, he'd go away or shut up; apparently, that's not > going to happen. So this is your way of ignoring an e-mail thread? As Gary has stated he does no longer respond to this thread unless he is addressed/referred to personally (I'm sure Gary can defend himself, I'm just repeating this so that people having problems with anybody's POV should remember to take it in *PRIVATE MAIL*!). > Kick the fascist piece of shit off the list. Oh, I'm sure that comment (which as anybody clearly can see is not an insult aimed at an individual... sigh. :P ) will calm things down. Flame away, but do it in private mail - and that goes for everybody, including Gary. Hell, this list is even so weirdly configured that replies automatically go to the sender. Is it so difficult? [Please learn how to quote. There's no date or original author's name preceding the quote below - but IIRC it is SEVERAL WEEKS OLD! Let this thread die.] >> There's nothing better than arguing with people who prove your arguement [snip] -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:12:03 +0100 Date: 05 Jun 2000 13:01:29 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:27 AM > the new ROBOT voice quoted Ralf as saying " ich sehe mich mehr als HERR > KRAFTWERK !!! " -- does this mean the next KW release will be a solo album! hm ? well ... maybe !!! *LOL* ;-))) nope !!! i'm jus' kiddin' ... but then again ... who really knows it 4 sure ??? ;-) fact is that ralf sees himself as HERR KRAFTWERK & lives his life as HERR KRAFTWERK !!! ;-) florian is more a guy with a "normal" lifestyle , id est : family etc. !!! ;-) fritz & henning were jus' " the engineers " & have not much 2 do with the "creative" process of kw in general !!! :-/ so u can really strip it all down 2 the nucleus of ralf & florian !!! ;-) ralf decides & florian invents !!! " the rest " is jus' "periphery" of the whole " kling klang kosmos " !!! ( hey , this would also make a good album title then !!! *LOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: (kw) trax records Date: 04 Jun 2000 13:35:12 -0700 (PDT) > >>> awful is the best you get when you buy a cd from Cleopatra! <<< > > Well said! But, I have to admit, they did release a triple-CD of some > classic house from the legendary Trax Records. However, there were no > liner notes or credits of any kind! At least they were mastered at the > correct speed, and the sound quality is acceptable. Peace. its probably better than the origional vinyl releases that trax records brought out that are quite poor quality. i have many of there early releases....i think they used a lot of recycled vinyl. and all the people said......amen!!! _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: majordomo v. egroups (Was: Re: (kw) well ... jus' another summary of my last messages 2 this list ... once again !!! ;-)) Date: 04 Jun 2000 22:26:47 +0200 On 04-Jun-00 A.D., the new ROBOT voice ;-\) carved the following runes about "(kw) well ... jus' another summary of my last messages 2 this list ... once again !!! ;-)": [major snipping] > hm ? well ... my last 4 messages 2 this list ( send between may 31st & > june 2nd ! ) haven't appeared on it ... by now !!! :-/ now i'm a little > impatient indeed !!! ;-) maybe i'll unsubscribe myself & re-subscribe me > again later if this message also doesn't make it 2 the list in the next 24 > hours !!! :-/ hopefully it'll work out much better then !!! ;-) i'm really I'm sure everybody appreciated 4 copies of every message. ;) > a bit disappointed of this ALL 2 LOOONG DELAY !!! :-/ replies r comin' in > 2 original messages i haven't read before doesn't make any sense @ all 2 > me !!! :-/ so WHY DON'T WE ALL CHANGE 2 AN EGROUPS LIST then ??? > *most_curious* on an egroups list u have much more possibilities & ALL > MESSAGES comin' through VERY FAST indeed !!! ;-) btw : if u want 2 check Why don't you shut down the egroups list in favour of this, the "original" list? ;) What more is needed for a simple mailinglist than the distribution of mail and maybe searchable archives? The annoying commercial appended to every egroups message? Something should be done about the delay of mails on this list though. That seems to be one of the reasons to why the most recent flamewar is still going on. What's up, Lazlo? -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johannes Subject: (kw) Live albums, which one? Date: 07 Mar 2000 10:06:40 +0100 Which Live album(s) is considerd to be the best? (sound quality). I've heard Nippon numbers and thats the best quality I've heard so far.... Opinions? //Johannes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) Live albums, which one? Date: 06 Jun 2000 09:58:21 GMT >Which Live album(s) is considerd to be the best? (sound quality). >I've heard Nippon numbers and thats the best quality I've heard so far.... >Opinions? > > >//Johannes The recording from the Warfield soundboard allegedly has the best. But I wouldn't know, I can't find it anywhere :( ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) This List Date: 06 Jun 2000 12:55:06 +0100 This is off-topic for most people here, but to those who set up the list (anyone?) I was wondering if it costs anything to set up / maintain one of these discussion list things. 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BTW, the record of mine was DM.50-. (maybe) I think it's so cheep. (...Bootleg???) Greetings from the Far East, Kaoru xxx ---- Kaoru Chida-Fujishima VEE03563@nifty.ne.jp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Live 1981 MP3's Date: 06 Jun 2000 12:43:05 -0700 Hi everybody! If you haven't downloaded it yet, Kraftwerk Live In Belgium (or Paris?) 1981 is still available at: http://www.issaonline.com/kw/ I'm going to be taking these mp3's down in a few days, so if you want them, get them now! Tschau, Tschus, Tschak! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Csmithtv@aol.com Subject: (kw) Concert Dates Date: 06 Jun 2000 18:41:42 EDT Does anyone know of any concert dates for Kraftwerk for the rest of 2000 and early 2001 in North America? Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Sinfield Date: 06 Jun 2000 19:06:11 -0400 (EDT) i subscibed to this list today. i have been reading it at my friends house because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all you pc assholes and gary. what the fuck has the world come to when a person can't speak his mind? did any of you assholes realize this guy didn't even start this topic? in fact, he tried to stop the list from drifting into this subject very early in this arguement. he spoke his mind without attacking any of you. for this he ws accused of being a "homophobe". this is just a word you assholes use to silence a person who has a different opinion. he was then asked if he would firebomb someones house because he didn't like them or some other stupid shit like that. is that the way it goes with you assholes? a person disagrees with you ahout something and you label him as someone who would firebomb a house? that's like blaming christians when some asshole kills a homosexual. Christians believe homosexuality is wrong. they don't advocate killing someone for it. love the sinner, hate the sin is what they believe. you make this guy out to be like fucken Hitler. Why don't all you fucken assholes read George Orwell's 1984. you may all see yourselves in that book. how many times has this guy told you to stop posting to the list? how many times has he asked the subject be dropped but, you brainless fucken assholes keep attacking him in public? he didn't start the topic. he made a comment about a subject that was being discussed and he made comments you didn't like. you stupid fucken politically correct brain-dead jerkoffs believe in free speech as long as it's somthing you like. if not, you try to supress it by calling people tired worn out names like homophobe. It's like someone screaming "racist" for every little fucken thing and then when a real racist event takes place, nobody gives a shit because they are tired of hearing the same old shit over and over. one of you assholes even told the guy, "next time lets make fun of niggers" or some stupid shit like that. that's fucken incredible!!! how can you compare a religious belief about a sexual act with THAT??? so, I see that you assholes think this guy hates blacks and other minorities just because he spoke his mind about a topis that WAS ALEADY IN PROGRESS. that's a logical assumption, huh, asshole? this is my first and last visit to you close minded pretentious (pardon my spelling if that's wrong, assholes) "people". i can't stand Kraftwerk anyway. i don't know how you people listen to that shit. Dave FREE! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Sinfield Date: 06 Jun 2000 19:17:48 -0400 (EDT) i subscibed to this list today. i have been reading it at my friends house because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all you pc assholes and gary. what the fuck has the world come to when a person can't speak his mind? did any of you assholes realize this guy didn't even start this topic? in fact, he tried to stop the list from drifting into this subject very early in this arguement. he spoke his mind without attacking any of you. for this he ws accused of being a "homophobe". this is just a word you assholes use to silence a person who has a different opinion. he was then asked if he would firebomb someones house because he didn't like them or some other stupid shit like that. is that the way it goes with you assholes? a person disagrees with you ahout something and you label him as someone who would firebomb a house? that's like blaming christians when some asshole kills a homosexual. Christians believe homosexuality is wrong. they don't advocate killing someone for it. love the sinner, hate the sin is what they believe. you make this guy out to be like fucken Hitler. Why don't all you fucken assholes read George Orwell's 1984. you may all see yourselves in that book. how many times has this guy told you to stop posting to the list? how many times has he asked the subject be dropped but, you brainless fucken assholes keep attacking him in public? he didn't start the topic. he made a comment about a subject that was being discussed and he made comments you didn't like. you stupid fucken politically correct brain-dead jerkoffs believe in free speech as long as it's somthing you like. if not, you try to supress it by calling people tired worn out names like homophobe. It's like someone screaming "racist" for every little fucken thing and then when a real racist event takes place, nobody gives a shit because they are tired of hearing the same old shit over and over. one of you assholes even told the guy, "next time lets make fun of niggers" or some stupid shit like that. that's fucken incredible!!! how can you compare a religious belief about a sexual act with THAT??? so, I see that you assholes think this guy hates blacks and other minorities just because he spoke his mind about a topis that WAS ALEADY IN PROGRESS. that's a logical assumption, huh, asshole? this is my first and last visit to you close minded pretentious (pardon my spelling if that's wrong, assholes) "people". i can't stand Kraftwerk anyway. i don't know how you people listen to that shit. FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: (kw) Warning: Humor Date: 06 Jun 2000 16:19:19 -0700 >because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all >you pc assholes and gary. Hey! Some of us happen to use Macintosh, thank you very much! ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Concert Dates Date: 06 Jun 2000 16:20:35 -0700 >Does anyone know of any concert dates for Kraftwerk for the rest of 2000 >and early 2001 in North America? There are currently no concert dates set for North America, or anywhere for that matter. But we can always hope! :> ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 07 Jun 2000 02:09:46 +0200 > >i can't stand Kraftwerk anyway. i don't know how you people listen to th= at >shit. =20 Yes, that=B4s your problem maybee. =20 YOUR problem. =20 Greetings from an =95 Apple-user =95 Shit-listener =20 ---joseph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut article Date: 07 Jun 2000 01:02:53 +0000 The current edition of the German magazine Die Zeit has an article on Senor Coconut aka Uwe Schmidt and his Kraftwerk covers: http://www.archiv.zeit.de/daten/pages/200023.m_kraftwerk_mamb.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bob hill Subject: Re: (kw) Live albums, which one? Date: 06 Jun 2000 17:58:52 -0700 I have heard the warfield show and it was fair as boots go. The UMA show in 97' is very good. Stockholm 91' is also fairly good. Bob in California # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Book/CD Date: 06 Jun 2000 18:37:34 -0700 I just saw this on EBay. What is it? KRAFTWERK-SHORT INTRODUCTION TO... BOOK+CD 324570 Scheduled Release Date 06/15/00 Finally a book on the most influential electronic music group in the last thirty years who provided inspiration for Depeche Mode, Afrika Bambaataa, New Order, the Chemical Brothers and many more. 84 pages in English and Italian, includes the story of the band, an interview, discography and a bonus CD with unreleased alternate takes of 'It's More Fun To Compute', 'Kristallo', 'Autobahn', 'Hall Of Mirrors', 'Radioaktivat', 'Uranium' and 'Das Model'. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=348130933 Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Book/CD Date: 06 Jun 2000 21:44:05 EDT In a message dated 6/6/00 9:41:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mach25@inow.com writes: << just saw this on EBay. What is it? KRAFTWERK-SHORT INTRODUCTION TO... BOOK+CD 324570 Scheduled Release Date >> Don't bother!!!!!!!It's a flop!!!!!!! Unless you like SCRATCHWERK!!!! *ROTFLOL* It's not even OFFICIAL!!!!!! Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Sinfield Subject: (kw) RE: Re: Date: 06 Jun 2000 20:20:01 -0400 (EDT) ------Original Message------ Sent: June 7, 2000 12:09:46 AM GMT > >i can't stand Kraftwerk anyway. i don't know how you people listen to that >shit. Yes, that=B4s your problem maybee. YOUR problem. Greetings from an =95 Apple-user =95 Shit-listener ---joseph i see. and that's all you have to say? i'm surprised you didn't accuse me o= f being a minority-hating, child molesting, homophobic serial killer. after all, anyone who doesn't like kraftwerk MUST be kraftwerk-phobic and a menace to society and all that's good and decent in the world Dave FREE! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: (kw) Re: majordomo v. egroups Date: 06 Jun 2000 19:12:31 +0200 On 06-Jun-00 A.D., Oh Jay carved the following runes about "Re: majordomo v. egroups (Was: Re: (kw) well ... jus' another summary of my last messages 2 this list ... once again !!! ;-))": > From: "Emanuel Mair" > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 10:26 PM > hm ? this kw mailin' list is pretty *kewl* indeed ( that's why i'm on it > !!! *G* ;-) but IT'S ONLY A MAILIN' LIST !!! ;-) my kraftwerkfans > newsgroup & forum is MUCH MORE THAN THIS !!! *G* ;-) u can share NOT ONLY > INFO ABOUT KW , u can also UPLOAD & DOWNLOAD FILES & STUFF there plus A > WHOLE LOT MORE !!! *G* ;-) Didn't somebody on the list set up an FTP server with upload permissions for all to use some time ago? If it's still up, what's the URL? eGroups mailing lists are also "only" mailing lists. ;) Newsgroups is what you find on Usenet. >> What more is needed for a simple mailinglist than the distribution of >> mail and maybe searchable archives? > > see above & check my newsgroup & forum @ > www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans !!! *G* ;-) > btw : WHERE can i find a really searchable archive of this list ??? i > don't mean this " ol' school " type 1 with messages dated back 2 the > period of early 1993 until late 1997 or so !!! it's nice but ... IS THAT > ALL THERE IS ??? :-/ http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi at least lets you search all messages up to and including 1999 (is there a Y2k bug in the script? ;)). >> The annoying commercial appended to every >> egroups message? > > does this really scare u away from usin' egroups ??? *most_curious* :-/ > then u must be a very faint-hearted person indeed !!! *LOL* ;-))) Not really, I subscribe to a couple of eGroups lists, I meant it's an annoyance compared to this and other majordomo et al. lists. > the incredible AMIGA & morse code , eh ??? *G* ;-) your a real *GEEK* then > !!! *LOL* ;-))) Not a *real* geek, I couldn't program myself out of a wet paper bag if my life depended on it. Well, maybe if a short ARexx script would suffice. ;) > btw : i like your kw site a lot & also many thanx 4 all this nice > audio-stuff 1 can download there !!! *GGG* ;-))) Thanks. I wish I had more diskspace though. I don't think my BOFH will give me a larger quota just for MP3's. -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Sinfield Subject: (kw) RE: Re: Date: 06 Jun 2000 20:46:32 -0400 (EDT) ------Original Message------ Sent: June 7, 2000 12:32:51 AM GMT If your swearing and epithets were removed from that rather lenghty diatribe, there would be one or two sentences of comedy. What an idiot to write that to a list you care nothing about anyway.... Fucken retard. (To use your spelling) I DO care about defending people who are being attacked. Especially when there are many people who want to defend this poor guy but they are such pussies that they won't open their mouths. So fuck you and the horse you rode in on, douche bag Very truly yours, Dave FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: majordomo v. egroups (Was: Re: (kw) well ... jus' another summary of my last messages 2 this list ... once again !!! ;-)) Date: 06 Jun 2000 13:39:24 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 10:26 PM of my last messages 2 this list ... once again !!! ;-)) > I'm sure everybody appreciated 4 copies of every message. ;) well ... i'm jus' 2 TIRED OF WAITIN' 4 my messages 2 appear on this list ONCE IN TIME !!! that's all !!! ;-) now EVERYBODY recognizes this problem & we all can deal with it ... hopefully !!! ;-) btw : i like 2 apologize 4 this little spam of mine !!! *G* ;-) > Why don't you shut down the egroups list in favour of this, the "original" > list? ;) hm ? this kw mailin' list is pretty *kewl* indeed ( that's why i'm on it !!! *G* ;-) but IT'S ONLY A MAILIN' LIST !!! ;-) my kraftwerkfans newsgroup & forum is MUCH MORE THAN THIS !!! *G* ;-) u can share NOT ONLY INFO ABOUT KW , u can also UPLOAD & DOWNLOAD FILES & STUFF there plus A WHOLE LOT MORE !!! *G* ;-) > What more is needed for a simple mailinglist than the distribution of mail > and maybe searchable archives? see above & check my newsgroup & forum @ www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans !!! *G* ;-) btw : WHERE can i find a really searchable archive of this list ??? i don't mean this " ol' school " type 1 with messages dated back 2 the period of early 1993 until late 1997 or so !!! it's nice but ... IS THAT ALL THERE IS ??? :-/ > The annoying commercial appended to every > egroups message? does this really scare u away from usin' egroups ??? *most_curious* :-/ then u must be a very faint-hearted person indeed !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Something should be done about the delay of mails on this list though. That > seems to be one of the reasons to why the most recent flamewar is still > going on. What's up, Lazlo? YEAH !!! ;-) whazzup mr. nibble ??? ;-) > -- > E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ > e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! > http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * > .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- the incredible AMIGA & morse code , eh ??? *G* ;-) your a real *GEEK* then !!! *LOL* ;-))) btw : i like your kw site a lot & also many thanx 4 all this nice audio-stuff 1 can download there !!! *GGG* ;-))) the "pretorianz" rulez !!! *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tomasz Kirmuc" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos on Viva 2 Date: 06 Jun 2000 23:38:50 +0200 Hi Werkers! There will be special broadcast of ELECTRONIC BEAT Festival which had = place on May 31st at Palladium in Koln. Performances are: Moloko, Moby, = Phoneheads, Console, Computerjockeys, Rhinocore and.... KARL = BARTOS!!!!!!!!!! (information is included in Viva2 txt on page 330 as I = remember). Friday 9.06 between 19:00 and 02:00 Saturday 17.06 between 20:00 and 03:00 Regards, Tomasz (DATless) Kirmuc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: (kw) Madonna Vs. Kraftwerk Date: 06 Jun 2000 21:07:53 PDT Listen up Kraftwerk! Madonna und Mirwais have sprinkled some T.E.E. riffs on the much talked about (Madonna Sues Napster) "stolen" basic tracks of "Music" Check out the TEE build and TEE morse code stacatto stab! T H E K R A F T W E R K I N F L U E N C E C O N T I N U E S http://members.tripod.com/DJFRANKX/index.html ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Re: rE: RE; re: (kw) rE: (kw) re: re: Re: (kw) RE: Date: 07 Jun 2000 06:13:03 GMT >after all, anyone who doesn't like kraftwerk >MUST be kraftwerk-phobic and a menace to society and all that's >good and decent in the world > >Dave bloody hell, this guy actually speaks the truth. hey lets listen to him for a minute... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 07 Jun 2000 08:50:16 +0200 Never mind. I sent complaints to the list-owner. Gunnar David Sinfield wrote: > > i subscibed to this list today. ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: FW: (kw) Warning: Humor Date: 07 Jun 2000 10:27:10 +0100 > >because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all > >you pc assholes and gary. > > Hey! Some of us happen to use Macintosh, thank you very much! > > Damn right; I'm no Windows deviant either. :) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Serjeant" Subject: (kw) Re: Re Date: 07 Jun 2000 10:34:02 BST AAaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! AAaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! AAAaarrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! There – got it out of my system. What planet are these people from? Why do they torment me? Dave Serjeant – (Earthling) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Pedoto" Subject: (kw) stop Date: 07 Jun 2000 05:43:07 -0400 David I know you think you're helping me and I appreciate it but, this is just making things worse. Everytime I think it's over, it starts up again. It was dying down finally little by little. I'm afraid now it will start up again. Your hearts in the right place but, believe me, this won't help. The amount of people responding to things said weeks ago continues. The overwhelming amount of people are just ignoring it and, like me, are just waiting for it to end. I suggest you do the same. Thanks Gary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Insanely grating Date: 07 Jun 2000 13:22:14 +0000 Richard Marston wrote: > >>> because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all >>> you pc assholes and gary. >> >> Hey! Some of us happen to use Macintosh, thank you very much! >> >> > Damn right; I'm no Windows deviant either. :) Me too! God, it's such a relief to be out of the closet! Let's have a Mac pride march! Wess wrote: > Never mind. I sent complaints to the list-owner. ... and I have sent a polite complaint to the flamer's postmaster. Oh, and before the list vandal or his anonymous friend whines, free speech only covers sounds made out of one's mouth. He's right though, 1984 is a good book: it's important to use language in an informed and responsible way, which makes his rant sadly ironic. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tomasz_KIRMUC@tdk-lu.com Subject: (kw) off-topic question Date: 07 Jun 2000 16:34:39 +0200 small off-topic message -> i have a short request to german members - i'm looking for a speciality shop in berlin area with audio-video equipment where i could buy (sony) portable dat recorder. i would greatly appreciate any help. tomasz kirmuc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) I am new to this list Date: 07 Jun 2000 15:47:52 BST Hi Having glanced at one or two postings, I find that some like to indulge a little bit of verbals. Sounds fun. My interests in this topic: Modern artists in many instances citing Kraftwerk as a key influence. Kraftwerk's innovative use of the mannequin to represent band members, use of robots and fascination with previously unconventional forms of sound creation. The wonderful mystery surrounding the band, and their minimalist philosophy. If any of this is a bit heavy, I am quite prepared to get involved in slagging people off instead. Kling Klang. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) The Red Robots Date: 07 Jun 2000 15:50:48 +0100 There's a red vinyl copy of Die Mensch Maschine for sale at www.eil.com http://eil.com/gallery/127439.jpg Anybody want to lend me =A3400 ($640) ? http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) I am new to this list Date: 07 Jun 2000 15:02:43 GMT >Modern artists in many instances citing Kraftwerk as a key influence. > >Kraftwerk's innovative use of the mannequin to represent band members, use >of robots and fascination with previously unconventional forms of sound >creation. > >The wonderful mystery surrounding the band, and their minimalist >philosophy. > >If any of this is a bit heavy, I am quite prepared to get involved in >slagging people off instead. This list seems to exist on both Kraftwerk related conversations AND slagging people off, so I think you'll fit in well! look forward to hearing your thoughts :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) Vor Uns Metropolis? Date: 07 Jun 2000 09:04:10 -0600 Any owners of Vor Uns Metropolis out there? Please get in touch with me -- thanks! Mike (myq@xmission.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: RE: (kw) Madonna Vs. Kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 2000 09:44:45 PDT Lisa writes: Are samples of the Madonna song on your page? FXCordero says....."I think not". Where can I find it? Try Napster...it shows up every now and then.(You will only find the 3:47 piece) Warner Brothers attoneys say....."Any site that does not remove our copyrighted material runs the risk of civil and criminal prosecution." The 5:00 version was pulled off the "infamous" Singapore sight two weeks ago. FYI-Supposedly the video will drive the nail into the rap hip-hop coffin. She's fed up with the "American Music Scene". NP: "Music" by Madonna/Mirwais synching in with "Musique Non Stop" The possibilities are Europe Endless. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: EMI's embossment? Date: 07 Jun 2000 19:00:06 +0200 Konnichi wa! Greetings from Europe. Fujishima Kaoru wondered: > Please tell me if you have German 'T-E-E' LP [with EMI's logo embossed = on the back] /.../ I think it's so cheep. (...Bootleg???) The embossed EMI logo appears on German re-issues as proof that the recor= d is authentic. The price would be considered low in some places, high in others - it's all relativ= e. For sure, you now own a very nice album :) -- - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cancerperson" Subject: Re: (kw) Insanely grating Date: 07 Jun 2000 12:08:03 -0500 > >> > >> Hey! Some of us happen to use Macintosh, thank you very much! > >> > >> > > Damn right; I'm no Windows deviant either. :) > > Me too! God, it's such a relief to be out of the closet! Let's have a Mac > pride march! Death to evil Microsoft and Apple! Let the penguin march over the hethen masses. Linux Power!! -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s: a-- C+++ UL P+ L++ E---- W+ N++ o- K w M- V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5- X++ R+ tv b+++ DI++ D++ G e>++ h! r-->++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.omn.net/~kpbloke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: The Red Robots Date: 07 Jun 2000 19:22:34 +0200 Richard M wondered: > Anybody want to lend me =A3400 ($640) ? The French one's only =A3220... (http://www.101cd.com/orar01.asp?page=3D1&shop=3D&artist=3DKRAFTWERK&titl= e=3D&desc=3D&low=3D&high=3D&s=3D) -- - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) Warning: Humor Date: 07 Jun 2000 19:39:37 +0200 Phew, and I thought I was the only one. What do you guys have? I've got a Rev. B iMac. -- The software said Windows95 or better, so I got a Mac... > From: Richard Marston > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:27:10 +0100 > To: "'kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com'" > Subject: FW: (kw) Warning: Humor > > >>> because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all >>> you pc assholes and gary. >> >> Hey! Some of us happen to use Macintosh, thank you very much! >> >> > Damn right; I'm no Windows deviant either. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) Insanely grating Date: 07 Jun 2000 19:53:24 +0200 >Linux Power!! right, waste your time with a OS that soon will become the Windoze of geeks! ;-) > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GCS d- s: a-- C+++ UL P+ L++ E---- W+ N++ o- K w > M- V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5- X++ R+ tv b+++ DI++ D++ > G e>++ h! r-->++ y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCA d- s: a C++ U? P? L? E? W++ N++ o? K? w--- O? M++ V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP- t-- 5-- X+++ R- tv+ b++ DI- D---- G e h---- y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Pah! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Mr.Videos Kraftwerk-Video Date: 07 Jun 2000 21:51:12 +0200 On Mr.Videos Homepage ( http://www.mrvideos.com/ ) there are music videos available. One of them is ... KRAFTWERK LIVE IN BRAZIL 1998 - GREAT PRO SHOT 45 MINUTES (you can find at http://www.mrvideos.com/indexk.html) It costs $20 + $5 (for PAL) + $5 (for postage). (see order informations at http://www.mrvideos.com/order.txt) Does anyone know more about it and has it? Is it worth the money? Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) plans about kw-tv-special Date: 07 Jun 2000 21:51:29 +0200 Does anybody know 'Music Planet' on arte (German/French-tv station, available by ASTRA-sattelite over europe)? How about a KW-special of this? I asked them some months ago about this and got the answer that there are plans for a KW-special in the near future. A date could not specified so far. So, keep your eyes open for this and leave a message for all kw-list-members! Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in ZDF-archives Date: 07 Jun 2000 21:51:46 +0200 Interesting info for kraftwerk fans who collect everything that is available: In April/May I got an answer from ZDF (second-oldest German TV-station), that they have two entries (the only ones) available in their archives concerning kraftwerk: Gegenwelt Rauschgift "Grass" und Schnee Produktionsnummer: 6354/2087, Sendedatum: 15.06.97, Länge: 44'25" Lost in music Tekkno-Trance Produktionsnummer: 6374/3232, Sendedatum: 18.07.94, Länge: 54'48" But - the scenes with kraftwerk are only 45 seconds short. A VHS copy of both both broadcasts (ca. 100 minutes) cost DM 90,- or DM 140,- depending on requested quality. The interesting point is, that kraftwerk was much more often on ZDF than 45 seconds! All copies of these broadcasts must have gone or deleted! I ever thought that everything that was shown on TV is available in archives (of the TV-stations) almost for ever. I remember a German popshow named 'Rock Pop' in the late 70s and early 80s with one show where kraftwerk sung 'Wir sind die Roboter'. They were live on the stage (no video, with or without the robots - I don't remember) and the main special effect was that the refrain 'Wir sind die Roboter' apeared on the tv-screen whenever it was sung until the screen was filled. The original show was on ZDF around 1980 and was repeated on 3sat in the 90s. Does anyone have this show or other rarities on video? Please let me know! Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) two different Expo2000 video versions Date: 07 Jun 2000 22:05:06 +0200 Surely I'm not the first and only one who noticed it and this topic is not brand new, but I found out that there are two different Expo2000 videos: 1. Expo 2000 (you can get from http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/8935/kwvideo.html) ... contains a 20 seconds computer simulation of a flight over the Expo area 2. Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 (as I saw on MTV) ... shows portraits of the kw-robots and 10 seconds more live act The pictures are very similar, the biggest difference is the music. Which of these is the video on the extended Expo2000-CD-single? Would anybody give me a copy of it against MPEGs of above videos (I think the quality must be better and without tv-logo). 3. (out of the contest) Expo 2000 at Top Of The Pops robots "acting" on stage (http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdkmov.htm or http://www.btinternet.com/~t.o.b.y/content/video/kraftwerk/ ) Dirk from Hamburg. Besides: Any kraftwerk vhs- or computer-videos are welcome. Anybody out there who wants to trade? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: RE: (kw) Madonna Vs. Kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 2000 13:42:22 PDT Lisa writes: Unrelated (or related for you Kraftwerk Napsterians!) I have a Napster question. How do you instant message someone? I'm looking.... Download their latest version. (www.napster.com) Instant messaging is a new feature...and you can also view other member file libraries! I'll be putting up my "A Short Introduction to KW" this evening (GMT)in case anyone is interested. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk in ZDF-archives Date: 07 Jun 2000 23:11:36 +0200 dirk.boettcher@gmx.net writes: =20 > >Interesting info for kraftwerk fans who collect everything that is >available: > =20 > >But - the scenes with kraftwerk are only 45 seconds short. =20 > >A VHS copy of both both broadcasts (ca. 100 minutes) cost DM 90,- or >DM 140,- depending on requested quality. Naja, um sieses Geld k=F6nnte man das ganze ja schon locker auf DVD formatieren... =20 > >The interesting point is, that kraftwerk was much more often on ZDF than >45 seconds! All copies of these broadcasts must have gone or deleted! >I ever thought that everything that was shown on TV is available in >archives (of the TV-stations) almost for ever. Mitnichten.=20 Bandmaterial war zu allen Zeiten teuer (ein 30cm Tonband von BASF kostete noch Mitte der 80er Jahre um die 1000,- =D6S!) und die einzelnen Redaktionen wurden = in regelm=E4ssigen Abst=E4nden dazu angehalten,=20 nicht zuviel davon zu verbrauchen, bzw. wenn das Budget daf=FCr alle war, gab=B4s eben keinen nachschub mehr. Daher wurden immer alte Sendungen durch neu=FCberspielen einfach gel=F6sc= ht. Kein Backup, keine C45er-Kopie , nichts. Einfach weg. In vielen F=E4llen ist es aber auch so, dass heute oft kein Mensch mehr weiss, in welcher Schachtel, welchen Regales in welchem Raum was genau gelagert wird. Die einstigen Mitarbeiter sind l=E4ngst in Pension oder verstorben, Archivaufzeichnung - wenn =FCberhaupt - h=F6chst unvollst=E4ndig und mangelhaft gef=FChrt. =20 Und das, von Unternehmen die im =F6ffentlich-rechtlichen Auftrag zu agier= en h=E4tten! Was Du hier mit dem ZDF erlebt hast, erlebt man in =D6sterreich mit dem O= RF. Als Geb=FChren-, und Steuerzahler wird Dir auch hier schlichtweg der Zugr= iff verweigert (falsche Bestandsausk=FCnfte sind die Regel!), mit dem Hinweis auf Copyri= ghts und =E4hnlichem Schwachsinn. Gerade von Pionieren wie Kraftwerk, hat man sicher kaum was weggeworfen. Oft nur eine Frage der Zeit, bis das Eine und andere wieder "auftaucht". Siehe z. B. "Concert Classics". Einfach abwarten. =20 > >I remember a German popshow named 'Rock Pop' in the late 70s and early >80s >with one show where kraftwerk sung 'Wir sind die Roboter'. >They were live on the stage (no video, with or without the robots - I >don't >remember) and the main special effect was that the refrain 'Wir sind die >Roboter' apeared on the tv-screen whenever it was sung until the screen >was >filled. Ich hab dieses Video in sehr schlechter Qualit=E4t auf einem VHS-Tape. Sehr gut gemacht, immer noch beeindruckend. =20 > >The original show was on ZDF around 1980 and was repeated on 3sat in the >90s. Versuch es einfach mal bei Kulturzeit (3-Sat). Hartn=E4ckigkeit ist hier ein Muss! =20 > >Dirk from Hamburg. ---joseph =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "davethewave@excite.com" Subject: RE: (kw) the price is right?...klang dj 101,102,103,104 Date: 07 Jun 2000 15:00:04 -0700 (PDT) > 'rarities catalogue' link on the home page -- there are a couple of Klang > Box 101 sets there) i have a copy of klang 101,102,103,104......no box or t-shirt though. they are all in mint condition and have all got picture covers. i've got 2 sets, one for me and one for anyone who wants to make a reasonable offer. and all the people said......amen!!! _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Johnson Subject: (kw) This is NOT the time on Sprockets when we dance... Date: 07 Jun 2000 16:08:06 -0700 (I get the digest, so pardon if this has already been mentioned) The planned "Sprockets" film, starring Mike Myers (Austin Powers) as the very German "Dieter", and which undoubtably would have "Kraftwerk-ian" elements, has been placed on hold. In fact, there's a BIG lawsuit involved. Check out www.variety.com, or more specifically... http://www.variety.com/body.asp?HbkId=11012184&subcat=-1&ArticleId=111778234 2 In short, it says Universal is suing Myers for breach of contract for the film, that was due to start shooting in August. It seems Myers had script approval, and wrote a script and turned it in (he's receiving $20 million to write and star in the film). Universal accepted the script, and has so far paid out $1 million to hire the people Myers wanted. Then Myers un-accepted his own script! He says it would be unfair to his public to put out work that would be below his standard. How VERY KRAFTWERK-IAN!!!! -Keith Johnson kj@gmnameplate.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: RE: (kw) Madonna Vs. Kraftwerk Date: 08 Jun 2000 01:23:25 +0200 (CEST) Ohh.. Then I have a suggestion. What if we made a list of known Napster users who has a large database of various KR material. I've lost most of my Mp3's due a HD crash, so I'm downloading them all again. Kaspar D. Larsen aka. Das^Robot ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Sinfield Date: 07 Jun 2000 20:12:09 -0400 (EDT) hi everybody eep opp ork ah ah! (that means, i love you) ds FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) This is NOT the time on Sprockets when we dance... Date: 07 Jun 2000 20:21:40 EDT In a message dated 6/7/00 7:09:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kj@gmnameplate.com writes: << In short, it says Universal is suing Myers for breach of contract for the film, that was due to start shooting in August. It seems Myers had script approval, and wrote a script and turned it in (he's receiving $20 million to write and star in the film). Universal accepted the script, and has so far paid out $1 million to hire the people Myers wanted. Then Myers un-accepted his own script! He says it would be unfair to his public to put out work that would be below his standard. How VERY KRAFTWERK-IAN!!!! -Keith Johnson kj@gmnameplate.com >> *ROTFLOLA* Well.....That's the first time I've noticed it!!!!!! I loved Sprockets!!!!!!!! :-) What a shame they can't agree on something!!!!!!!!!!!:-/ BTW..I always wandered if anyone else remembered sprockets!!!!! If I remember correctly..they used KW's Electric Cafe for the music on Sprockets!!!!!! ;-) Well ..It was a very speeded up version though!!!!! Hmmmm..I wander if KW knew about that? Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 07 Jun 2000 20:22:58 EDT *LOL* Where have I heard that??? Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World Date: 07 Jun 2000 20:41:55 EDT In a message dated 6/5/00 4:39:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de writes: << The maxi "EXPO2000" was too little for me. >> Hell..... I haven't stopped listening to it since it came out!!!!!!!!!! ;-) I think it's one of there best!!!!!!!!!!! Evertime I get in my car I play it ( EXPO 2000 ) and when I get on my computer (I recorded it as MP3) I listen to some more!!!!!!!!;-) Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ditko37@home.com Subject: (kw) OT : New BORED WITH TODAY Songs For Downloadin'! Date: 08 Jun 2000 00:59:04 -0400 The day for which you've never knew you were waiting has arrived! BORED WITH TODAY, the heppest indie band north of the U.S. border, has released their first-ever single, available for download for FREE on their web-site! It's a swingin', Double A-Sided affair featuring the two new songs... a. GOOD CLEANING STAFFS COME AND GO a. I ATTRACT GAY MEN You can also download the artwork for the CD case, should you choose (as if you had a choice) to burn your own CD Single of the band's latest opus. AND, as if your heart hadn't stopped already, the site had been completely re-designed, with tonnes of bitchin' new pictures of the duo that is Blake Bell and Len Lumbers. Read all about it in the LATEST NEWS section at... http://www.boredwithtoday.com/news.html Commentary is welcome. We've got the hate mail to prove it. Now, off to be banned by mp3.com again... SINcerely, the guys swimming in your waterbed at : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LCAPUTO@HKLAW.COM Subject: RE: (kw) Madonna Vs. Kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 2000 13:16:13 -0400 Thanks! I think I saw it on Napster, but it's 56K -- too slow. I'll keep checking. Unrelated: I have a Napster question. How do you instant message someone? I'm looking for some obscure 80s new wave songs. Every day I do a search for "blue zoo" and there are usually a few of their songs on there, but not "somewhere in the world there's a cowboy smiling." I'm also looking for Aku-Aku's "the night belongs to charlie." How can I ask these people on Napster if they've got those singles as well? Thanks so much! Lisa -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:45 PM Lisa writes: Are samples of the Madonna song on your page? FXCordero says....."I think not". Where can I find it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) Warning: Humor MAC COMPUTERS Date: 07 Jun 2000 21:42:47 -0400 Familie de Haan wrote: > Phew, and I thought I was the only one. What do you guys have? I've got a > Rev. B iMac. > -- > > The software said Windows95 or better, so I got a Mac... > > > From: Richard Marston > > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:27:10 +0100 > > To: "'kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com'" > > Subject: FW: (kw) Warning: Humor > > > > > >>> because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all > >>> you pc assholes and gary. > >> > >> Hey! Some of us happen to use Macintosh, thank you very much! > >> > >> > > Damn right; I'm no Windows deviant either. :) HEhehe, I thought I was lost in a P.C. Mailing list! Great to see the Mac users out there! Welp, Here's what I got! Beige G3 266 Graphite Imac DV Cable modem & Hub! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LCAPUTO@HKLAW.COM Subject: RE: (kw) Madonna Vs. Kraftwerk Date: 07 Jun 2000 11:28:08 -0400 Are samples of the Madonna song on your page? Where can I find it? Thanks. Lisa -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:08 AM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: (kw) Re: bomb !!! *LOL* ;-))) Date: 07 Jun 2000 14:44:30 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:06 AM david SINfield , eh ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) hey gary , now u r goin' 2 be a little "creative" after all !!! *LOLA* ;-))) i really *love* this " nice disguise " of u , my friend !!! THAT'S HUMOROUS & IRONIC INDEED !!! *CSROTFLOL4AW* ;-))) [ snipped this flame-bait & *hit !!! ;-) ] however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) p. s. : sometimes i really wish i was a "homophobe" as well !!! *SROTFLOL4ST* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Mergner" Subject: Re: (kw) Insanely grating Date: 07 Jun 2000 09:17:21 EDT >From: Kevin Busby >To: "'kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com'" >Subject: (kw) Insanely grating >Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 13:22:14 +0000 > > > >Richard Marston wrote: > > > > >>> because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between >all > >>> you pc assholes and gary. > >> > >> Hey! Some of us happen to use Macintosh, thank you very much! > >> > >> > > Damn right; I'm no Windows deviant either. :) > >Me too! God, it's such a relief to be out of the closet! Let's have a Mac >pride march! > A million Mac march on the mall in D.C. with S. Jobs as our main speaker. Who else? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LCAPUTO@HKLAW.COM Subject: (kw) RE: Date: 07 Jun 2000 09:52:45 -0400 Guys -- don't answer these guys whatsoever! Don't give them a left-handed compliment. They're itching for a fight. They love it. Don't make their lives brighter and more fulfilling by being sucked into it. Thanks again to Larry LaCost for mailing me those concert and mix CDs. I'm *loving* them! They're all I've been listening to for days! Lisa -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 7:06 PM i subscibed to this list today. i have been reading it at my friends house because he wanted me to see the interesting "debate" going on between all you pc assholes and gary. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk someday, hoepfully Date: 08 Jun 2000 01:50:11 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:13 AM > micro, that's inKorreKt !!! *G+++* ;-))) my name is not micro ... my name is mike , mike ROBOT !!! *G+* ;-) > Ha ha!!! Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? well ... after all i'm jus' a ROBOT , "programmed" 2 x-ecute the orders given 2 me by my "programmers" !!! *LOL* ;-))) > How sad and bored you must be to manufacture these > things. a "real" ROBOT cannot be sad or bored !!! *G+* ;-) "he" jus' can manufacture these things "he"'s "programmed" 2 do !!! *LOLA* ;-))) > Dave has been one of my best friends for 28 years, > a co-worker for 10 years and in 3 months (God help me) > will be related to me by marriage. He's a true friend > who gets pissed when people abuse someone he cares > about. okay !!! ;-) i finally understand !!! *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) > The only thing wrong with him is he hates Kraftwerk with a passion. WHY THAT ??? *most_curious* does he think that they r gays ??? *hehehe* ;-))) > Nobody's perfect. Oh, that's right... damn right , mate !!! *G+* ;-) > look who I'm talking to about not being perfect. well ... after all i'm jus' a ROBOT ... ( repeatin' my "programmed" standard phrase over & over again !!! *G+++* ;-))) > You can't even tell the difference between two people. if i could "c" u or "hear" u ... i would do tell the difference between 2 people ... 4 sure !!! *G+* ;-) > How much dope do you smoke eveyday?? "real" ROBOTS don't smoke !!! it's not good 4 their health !!! *G+++* ;-))) > It's destroying your mind...ha ha! my memory still serves me well , dave ... err ... gaby ... err ... garrr... *eprom's_deleted_4_sudden_reprogrammin'* ;-))) *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) > Bye!!! > Gary b4n ! c u soon ... after my new chips were implanted completely & "programmed" with the KorreKt orders !!! *LOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx 2 dave & u , gary - my friend !!! *G+* ;-) yours sincerely , mike ROBOT - chief & x-ecutive engineer of the new ROBOT manufaturin' plant on mars !!! *SROTFLOL* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lpmj@att.net Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Date: 08 Jun 2000 00:45:28 +0000 You know something. I don't know why but, you sound like a decent guy. How about we stop the crap and talk about (are you ready for this) KRAFTWERK! One of the best and most original bands, after the Beatles of course. I don't know why Dave doesn't like Kraftwerk. He's from Brooklyn, New York originally. Maybe the city air caused some brain damage early in life. I've been a Kraftwerk fan since Autobahn came out and he has hated them for the same amount of time. His fiancee (sp?), who is also my cousin, is a big fan because of me and I always trade tapes with her. At least one of them will be able to pass on musical taste to their kids. It's unfortunate that I can't trade with anybody on the list. After the past month, I can't trust giving my actual address to anyone. You never know these days. Someone might send a FIREBOMB to my home. Gary original message: micro,that's inKorreKt !!! *G+++* ;-))) my name is not micro ... my name is mike , mike ROBOT !!! *G+* ;-) > Ha ha!!! Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? well ... after all i'm jus' a ROBOT , "programmed" 2 x- ecute the orders given 2 me by my "programmers" !!! *LOL* ;-))) > How sad and bored you must be to manufacture these> things. a "real" ROBOT cannot be sad or bored !!! *G+* ;-) "he" jus' can manufacture these things "he"'s "programmed" 2 do !!! *LOLA* ;-))) > Dave has been one of my best friends for 28 years, > a co-worker for 10 years and in 3 months (God help me) > will be related to me by marriage. He's a true friend > who gets pissed when people abuse someone he cares> about. okay !!! ;-) i finally understand !!! *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) > The only thing wrong with him is he hates Kraftwerk with a passion. WHY THAT ??? *most_curious*does he think that they r gays ??? *hehehe* ;-))) > Nobody's perfect. Oh, that's right...damn right , mate !!! *G+* ;-) > look who I'm talking to about not being perfect. well ... after all i'm jus' a ROBOT ... ( repeatin' my "programmed" standard phrase over & over again !!! *G+++* ;-))) > You can't even tell the difference between two people. if i could "c" u or "hear" u ... i would do tell the difference between 2 people ... 4 sure !!! *G+* ;-)> How much dope do you smoke eveyday?? "real" ROBOTS don't smoke !!! it's not good 4 their health !!! *G+++* ;-))) > It's destroying your mind...ha ha! my memory still serves me well , dave ... err ... gaby ... err ... garrr... *eprom's_deleted_4_sudden_reprogrammin'* ;-)))*ROTFLOLA* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) off-topic question ( well ... NOT REALLY then !!! *G+++* ;-))) Date: 07 Jun 2000 18:42:47 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 4:34 PM > small off-topic message -> i have a short request to german members - i'm > looking for a speciality shop in berlin area with audio-video equipment where i > could buy (sony) portable dat recorder. hm ? well ... may i ask u if u jus' want 2 buy this portable dat-recorder 2 "illegally" record some kw ( & related ;-) stuff 2 produce your own little amount of bootlegs later & 2 put it out on a website 4 downloadin' , eh ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) U BLOODY BOOTLEGGER U !!! *LOLA* ;-))) anyway ... go ahead with whatever u wanna do , tomasz !!! *G+* ;-) > i would greatly appreciate any help. so , r there any other bloody bootleggers here on the list who can help tomasz ??? *SROTFLOL* ;-))) > tomasz kirmuc however ... many greetinx - especially 2 all those bloody bootleggers !!! *G+++* ;-))) - from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lpmj@att.net Subject: (kw) kraftwerk someday, hoepfully Date: 07 Jun 2000 23:13:07 +0000 micro, Ha ha!!! Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? How sad and bored you must be to manufacture these things. Dave has been one of my best friends for 28 years, a co-worker for 10 years and in 3 months (God help me) will be related to me by marriage. He's a true friend who gets pissed when people abuse someone he cares about. The only thing wrong with him is he hates Kraftwerk with a passion. Nobody's perfect. Oh, that's right...look who I'm talking to about not being perfect. You can't even tell the difference between two people. How much dope do you smoke eveyday?? It's destroying your mind...ha ha! Bye!!! Gary address ] ------Original Message------ Sent: June 7, 2000 12:44:30 PM GMT ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 1:06 AM david SINfield , eh ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) hey gary , now u r goin' 2 be a little "creative" after all !!! *LOLA* ;-))) i really *love* this " nice disguise " of u , my friend !!! THAT'S HUMOROUS & IRONIC INDEED !!! *CSROTFLOL4AW* ;-))) [ snipped this flame-bait & *hit !!! ;-) ] however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) p. s. : sometimes i really wish i was a "homophobe" as well !!! *SROTFLOL4ST* ;-))) FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Music News of the World / expo 2000 & further ... ;-) Date: 08 Jun 2000 05:54:09 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 2:41 AM > In a message dated 6/5/00 4:39:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de writes: > > << The maxi "EXPO2000" was too little for me. >> > > Hell..... I haven't stopped listening to it since it came out!!!!!!!!!! ;-) > I think it's one of there best!!!!!!!!!!! Evertime I get in my car I play it > ( EXPO 2000 ) and when I get on my computer (I recorded it as MP3) I listen > to some more!!!!!!!!;-) > > Electronically (*LOL*), > > Christian ;-) guess what ??? i'm now "werkin'" there ... @ the expo 2000 in hannover / germany !!! *G+* ;-) btw : they don't play kw's "hymn" very often here !!! *sigh* :-/ well ... sometimes life is really strange , isn't it ??? *LOL2* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Live albums, which one? Date: 07 Jun 2000 17:56:29 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 2:58 AM bob in california wrote : > I have heard the warfield show and it was fair as boots go. completely agreed !!! *G+* ;-) > The UMA show in 97' is very good. HUH ??? WHICH SHOW WAS THAT ??? *most_curious* i only know the followin '97 shows of kw : tribal gatherin' in may ( luton hoo estate / u.k. ) / posthof in oct. ( linz / austria ) & zkm also in oct. ( karlsruhe / germany ) !!! did kw play any other shows ( or " secret gigs " ;-) in '97 ??? *even_more_curious* > Stockholm 91' is also fairly good. well ... i'm really sorry but i haven't heard that 1 ... so far !!! :-( maybe our swedish mates on this list can tell us more about it ??? *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Live albums, which one? Date: 07 Jun 2000 11:16:13 +0200 At 10.06 07/03/99 +0100, you wrote: >Which Live album(s) is considerd to be the best? (sound quality). >I've heard Nippon numbers and thats the best quality I've heard so far.... >Opinions? Johannes The several bootlegs (I own 3 different of them!) from ZKM are very good quality. Didi Milano - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Serjeant" Date: 08 Jun 2000 11:00:12 BST It would appear that I have been mistaken for another David S on the list. I’m off on holiday for a week, or thereabouts and I really look forward to coming back to a riot-free inbox. To the other David – clam up! you’re giving us Daves a bad name. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Mac Date: 08 Jun 2000 12:36:12 +0000 Proof that the Mac is the one true platform for Kraftwerk fans? http://www.theexpo2000.co.uk/theexpo.html :-) K PS Mac users with a taste for OS X's appearance might be interested in the "Kraftwerk" icon included in the "Liquid Folders" set at http://www.mendelini.com/icons/ ... though it's not very good, IMAO. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk in ZDF-archives Date: 08 Jun 2000 13:51:54 +0200 > dirk.boettcher@gmx.net writes: >> The interesting point is, that kraftwerk was much more often on ZDF than >> 45 seconds! All copies of these broadcasts must have gone or deleted! >> I ever thought that everything that was shown on TV is available in >> archives (of the TV-stations) almost for ever. > Mitnichten.=20 > Bandmaterial war zu allen Zeiten teuer (ein 30cm Tonband von BASF kostete > noch Mitte > der 80er Jahre um die 1000,- =D6S!) und die einzelnen Redaktionen wurden in > regelm=E4ssigen Abst=E4nden dazu angehalten, > nicht zuviel davon zu verbrauchen, bzw. wenn das Budget daf=FCr alle war, > gab=B4s eben keinen nachschub mehr. > Daher wurden immer alte Sendungen durch neu=FCberspielen einfach gel=F6scht. > Kein Backup, keine C45er-Kopie , nichts. Einfach weg. > In vielen F=E4llen ist es aber auch so, dass heute oft kein Mensch mehr > weiss, in welcher Schachtel, welchen Regales in welchem Raum was genau > gelagert wird. > Die einstigen Mitarbeiter sind l=E4ngst in Pension oder verstorben, > Archivaufzeichnung > - wenn =FCberhaupt - h=F6chst unvollst=E4ndig und mangelhaft gef=FChrt. >=20 > Und das, von Unternehmen die im =F6ffentlich-rechtlichen Auftrag zu agieren > h=E4tten! Das ZDF hat vor einigen Jahren einen grossen Teil seines alten MAZ-Archivmaterials auf neues Halbzoll-Material =FCberspielt. Dieses ging dan= n verloren, weil sich aufgrund eines Herstellungsfehlers von hunderten BASF-Tapes die Magnetschicht gel=F6st hat. Ein weiterer Teil des ZDF-Archivs ist letztes oder vorletztes Jahr einem Feuer zum Opfer gefallen. > Was Du hier mit dem ZDF erlebt hast, erlebt man in =D6sterreich mit dem ORF= . > Als Geb=FChren-, und Steuerzahler wird Dir auch hier schlichtweg der Zugrif= f > verweigert Hast Du eine Vorstellung, wieviele Anfragen dieses Inhaltes die Sender t=E4glich bekommen? Da k=E4men sie zu nichts anderem mehr; ich glaube auch nicht, dass es die Aufgabe qualifizierter Archivare sein kann, f=FCr private Fans alte Sendungen herauszusuchen und zu kopieren, ausserdem gibt es da noch das Urheberrecht zu beachten. Aber es haben doch bestimmt einige Listmembers diese Sendungen auf VHS. Fra= g doch mal. Gr=FCsse Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: (kw) Das Boot Date: 08 Jun 2000 16:04:20 +0300 Hi, Today I was searching for Kraftwerk at Napster and found the following track: Kraftwerk - Das Boot, 3:46 I suppose it's a soundtrack from the movie of the same name, but was it really written by Kraftwerk? It sounds somewhat kraftwerkish, but I've never heard of it before. -- Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 08 Jun 2000 13:46:33 GMT >Kraftwerk - Das Boot, 3:46 >I suppose it's a soundtrack from the movie of the same name, but was it >really written by Kraftwerk? It sounds somewhat kraftwerkish, but I've >never >heard of it before. > >-- > Eugene. > I had a look and it appears it was written by an old friend of theirs Klaus Doldinger. Didn't he help with production on the Organisation things or the early R&F? I could be wrong. someone please correkt me! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 08 Jun 2000 15:48:16 +0200 Eugene Zaikonnikov wrote: > Hi, > > Today I was searching for Kraftwerk at Napster and found the following > track: > Kraftwerk - Das Boot, 3:46 > I suppose it's a soundtrack from the movie of the same name, but was it > really written by Kraftwerk? It sounds somewhat kraftwerkish, but I've never > heard of it before. > > -- > Eugene. Are sure it's not the classic U96 "1-2-3 Techno" version? It's pretty kraftwerkish.. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk in ZDF-archives Date: 08 Jun 2000 17:00:50 +0200 josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) writes on Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:11:36 +0200 (METDST): (...) > Daher wurden immer alte Sendungen durch neu=FCberspielen einfach > gel=F6scht. > Kein Backup, keine C45er-Kopie , nichts. Einfach weg. > In vielen F=E4llen ist es aber auch so, dass heute oft kein Mensch mehr= > weiss, in welcher Schachtel, welchen Regales in welchem Raum was > genau > gelagert wird. > Die einstigen Mitarbeiter sind l=E4ngst in Pension oder verstorben, > Archivaufzeichnung > - wenn =FCberhaupt - h=F6chst unvollst=E4ndig und mangelhaft gef=FChrt.= > > Und das, von Unternehmen die im =F6ffentlich-rechtlichen Auftrag zu > agieren > h=E4tten! > Was Du hier mit dem ZDF erlebt hast, erlebt man in =D6sterreich mit dem= > ORF. > Als Geb=FChren-, und Steuerzahler wird Dir auch hier schlichtweg der > Zugriff > verweigert > (falsche Bestandsausk=FCnfte sind die Regel!), mit dem Hinweis auf > Copyrights > und =E4hnlichem Schwachsinn. > Gerade von Pionieren wie Kraftwerk, hat man sicher kaum was > weggeworfen. > Oft nur eine Frage der Zeit, bis das Eine und andere wieder > "auftaucht". > Siehe z. B. "Concert Classics". > Einfach abwarten. There is also the rumour, that the 1981 concert in the "Sophiensaele" has= been recorded by the ORF in it's full length. > > I > >don't > >remember) and the main special effect was that the refrain 'Wir sind > > die > >Roboter' apeared on the tv-screen whenever it was sung until the > > screen > >was > >filled. > Ich hab dieses Video in sehr schlechter Qualit=E4t auf einem VHS-Tape. > Sehr gut gemacht, immer noch beeindruckend. You mean the 1997 "Nightbox" compilation, eh ;-)? Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- *-*-*- * "Wir sind die Roboter" + KRAFTWERK + http://www.kraftwerk.com * * EXPO 2000 + Mensch-Natur-Technik + http://www.expo2000.de * * * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) + ICQ: 53829477 * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ + phone/SMS: +436765621850 * *-*-*-* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk archived Date: 08 Jun 2000 17:05:29 +0100 "There is also the rumour, that the 1981 concert in the "Sophiensaele" has been recorded by the ORF in it's full length." Well, if they went to the trouble of setting up the equipment,etc, they would almost certainly record everything and edit later. Question is, has anyone saved what was edited out? http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) Mac Icons Date: 08 Jun 2000 19:18:24 +0200 > PS Mac users with a taste for OS X's appearance might be interested in the > "Kraftwerk" icon included in the "Liquid Folders" set at > http://www.mendelini.com/icons/ ... though it's not very good, IMAO. Better Kraftwerkian icons at the iconfactory (preview at http://www.iconfactory.com/IconSetPreview.asp?PV=44&Page=SearchResults.asp&S QID=212300) -- GROWING UP: Drugs affect children the opposite way they affect adults. Adults think with their mouths open. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re(2): (kw) Kraftwerk in ZDF-archives Date: 08 Jun 2000 10:56:46 +0200 (METDST) josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) writes on Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:11:36 +0200 (METDST): (...) > Daher wurden immer alte Sendungen durch neuüberspielen einfach > gelöscht. > Kein Backup, keine C45er-Kopie , nichts. Einfach weg. > In vielen Fällen ist es aber auch so, dass heute oft kein Mensch mehr > weiss, in welcher Schachtel, welchen Regales in welchem Raum was > genau > gelagert wird. > Die einstigen Mitarbeiter sind längst in Pension oder verstorben, > Archivaufzeichnung > - wenn überhaupt - höchst unvollständig und mangelhaft geführt. > > Und das, von Unternehmen die im öffentlich-rechtlichen Auftrag zu > agieren > hätten! > Was Du hier mit dem ZDF erlebt hast, erlebt man in Österreich mit dem > ORF. > Als Gebühren-, und Steuerzahler wird Dir auch hier schlichtweg der > Zugriff > verweigert > (falsche Bestandsauskünfte sind die Regel!), mit dem Hinweis auf > Copyrights > und ähnlichem Schwachsinn. > Gerade von Pionieren wie Kraftwerk, hat man sicher kaum was > weggeworfen. > Oft nur eine Frage der Zeit, bis das Eine und andere wieder > "auftaucht". > Siehe z. B. "Concert Classics". > Einfach abwarten. There is also the rumour, that the 1981 concert in the "Sophiensaele" has been recorded by the ORF in it's full length. > > I > >don't > >remember) and the main special effect was that the refrain 'Wir sind > > die > >Roboter' apeared on the tv-screen whenever it was sung until the > > screen > >was > >filled. > Ich hab dieses Video in sehr schlechter Qualität auf einem VHS-Tape. > Sehr gut gemacht, immer noch beeindruckend. You meen the 1997 "Nightbox" compilation, eh ;-)? Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Westphal Subject: (kw) Mailing List Search Engine Date: 08 Jun 2000 12:50:09 +0200 (CES) Emanuel Mair wrote: >http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi at least lets you >search all messages up to and including 1999 (is there a Y2k bug in the >script? ;)). I've updated the search engine, so you can search all messages from 01/1993 to 05/2000. It will be the last update, because I am no longer able to provide this service. But the URL will be valid for at least the next 6 months. If anyone is interested to continue this service, please mail me _privately_. http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi -- Harald Westphal *** eMail: h.westphal@gmx.de *** WWW: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Harald.Westphal/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk someday, hoepfully Date: 08 Jun 2000 11:24:43 -0700 >Dave has been one of my best friends for 28 years, >a co-worker for 10 years and in 3 months (God help me) >will be related to me by marriage. Wow! Congratulations! I hope you two are very happy together! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) The 3 Kraftwerk Anthologies Date: 08 Jun 2000 20:30:44 +0200 Hi I still got some copies of the Kraftwerk MP3 Anthologies. It is 3 CDROMs with about 12 hours of music each. I'll sell the 3 CDROM set for US$35 or =A325 or 70 DM, that includes colourprinted covers and postage to all over the world. Please find a rough list of the contents below. mail me for a full tracklist and ordering instructions. at nellemann@cool.dk ---------------- Anthology vol 1=20 Early works Kraftwerk 1 Kraftwerk 2 Organisation Live 31th October 1991 D=FCsseldorf Germany 12th June 1971 K=F6ln Germany 16th October 1997 Posthof Linz Austria 24th May 1997 Tribal Gathering Luton Hoo UK Virtu ex Machine - Tokyo 9 July 1981 18th October 1997 ZKM Linz Germany Radioactivity CDsingle Radioactivity (William Orbit Remix).mp3 Radioaktivitaet (Francois Kevorkian remix).mp3 Radioactivity (Francois Kervorkian remix).mp3 Vor dem blauen rock (Beat Club TV-Theme Mai 1971).mp3 _______________ Anthology Vol 2 Cover Versions All in a days werk Balanescu Quartet Krafty Move Rammstein Das Modell Technocrates Ruckzuck=20 Trancewerk express 1 Trancewerk express 2 Tran-slovenia express Remix/Bootlegs Robots CDsingle Man Machine Recreated Sch=F6ne neue welt The Remix Toccata Electronica Tour de Trance Ultra rare Trax ____________________ =20 Anthology vol 3=20 Live 760228 L'olympia Paris 911024 Saga Copenhagen Denmark 980603 Akasaka Blitz Tokyo Japan 980618 Sonar Festival Barcelona Spain 980625 Roskilde Festival Denmark 981012 Buenos Aires Argentina 981106 State Theatre Detroit USA Remix/Cover versions Marc et Claude Vs Dr Sam - A tribute to Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ditko37@home.com Subject: (kw) OT : Groove Armada U.K. Cassette Help Date: 08 Jun 2000 15:10:25 -0400 Hope no one minds me asking but I was looking to find out if that GROOVE ARMADA album VERTIGO has the same track listing in the U.K. on CASSETTE as does the C.D. (with the Fat Boy Slim remix of that song). I'd rather get it on cassette, but don't want an incomplete line-up, if it can be help. Thanks in advance to whomever might answer, and please do e-mail me privately, to not clog up the list. Thanks. SINcerely, Blake in Toronto. * It's the music of BORED WITH TODAY at our brand new web-site : http://www.boredwithtoday.com/ or http://www.mp3.com/Bored_With_Today * The latest and greatest DUBSTAR Site and Mailing List at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/dubstar.html * Steve Ditko's unofficial web-haven for serious fans at : http://www.interlog.com/~ditko37/ditko.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Reed" Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 07 Jun 2000 16:31:24 +0100 In regards to your statement David : we tolerate all but the intolerant. No human being is better or more deserving for another. Written homophobia is the seed from which an event such as the Holocaust grows. Me? I'm a bigotphobic. ----- Original Message ----- > Why don't all you fucken assholes read George Orwell's 1984. > you may all see yourselves in that book. you are the dead potty mouth. I see you in there. A stormtrooper taking people to torture cells for daring to 'love' > you stupid fucken politically correct brain-dead jerkoffs Wow. This truly is the height of reasoned argument. Throwing insults like toys out a pram. However, what is more brain dead? A homphobe or a homosexual? Love thy fellow man, unless of course, he wants to oppress you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nate rogers" Subject: (kw) subject Date: 08 Jun 2000 16:19:50 EDT does anyone on the list use aol or aol instant messenger? if so, my screenname is mrbloggsluvzmoog. -nate ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KL Subject: (kw) Re: K.Lux KW covers Date: 08 Jun 2000 13:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Greetings all: Here is the final notification for the Kraftwerk covers if any of the newer members have not heard them yet. http://www.kevinlux.com/KW.htm Any new covers I create will be announced on my own mailing list. I am now unsubscribing from this list after many years, due to time constraints and a myrad of other issues I won't set myself up to be flamed for. Those who follow my productions, know where to find me. I have new music to create. Peace be with all, thank you. Kevin Lux http://www.kevinlux.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) Krafty Key Date: 08 Jun 2000 22:26:55 +0100 Did anyone else notice the 'KRAFTWERK' Keyring from Expo 2000 on offer at Esprit www.eil.com I ordered one (5 UKP) and it came just a couple of days later. Although I suspect there are 1000's of them it is rather nice. Maybe at the EXPO itself they'll be cheaper ;o) Keep Werking John http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Westphal Subject: (kw) Mailing List Search Engine Date: 08 Jun 2000 23:29:55 +0200 Emanuel Mair wrote: >http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi at least lets you >search all messages up to and including 1999 (is there a Y2k bug in the >script? ;)). I've updated the search engine, so you can search all messages from 01/1993 to 05/2000. It will be the last update, because I am no longer able to provide this service. But the URL will be valid for at least the next 6 months. If anyone is interested to continue this service, please mail me _privately_. http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi -- Harald Westphal *** eMail: h.westphal@gmx.de *** WWW: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Harald.Westphal/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 08 Jun 2000 13:19:48 -0400 "Das Boot" should be accredited to German techno group U96. It was available in the USA briefly on Cohiba/PolyGram (album cat. no. 221 102). Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) Kraftwerk in ZDF-archives Date: 09 Jun 2000 00:57:43 +0200 Georgie@blackbox.net writes: > >There is also the rumour, that the 1981 concert in the "Sophiensaele" has >been >recorded by the >ORF in it's full length. Yes, this is true. But not by the ORF ;-) ---joseph > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) Kraftwerk in ZDF-archives Date: 09 Jun 2000 01:01:45 +0200 Reetze@t-online.de writes: > >> dirk.boettcher@gmx.net writes: > > >Das ZDF hat vor einigen Jahren einen grossen Teil seines alten >MAZ-Archivmaterials auf neues Halbzoll-Material =FCberspielt. Dieses gin= g >dann >verloren, weil sich aufgrund eines Herstellungsfehlers von hunderten >BASF-Tapes die Magnetschicht gel=F6st hat. Da waren halt echte Profis am Werken! Solche, die den ganzen Tag zu nicht anderem mehr kommen... =20 Merk=B4s auf: Originale l=F6scht man N I E! =20 > >Ein weiterer Teil des ZDF-Archivs ist letztes oder vorletztes Jahr einem >Feuer zum Opfer gefallen. =20 > >Hast Du eine Vorstellung, wieviele Anfragen dieses Inhaltes die Sender >t=E4glich bekommen? Hab ich. Ich hab in einem solchen Unternehmen mal gearbeitet und viele solcher Anfagen erledigt. Und zwar positiv. =20 > Da k=E4men sie zu nichts anderem mehr; ich glaube auch >nicht, dass es die Aufgabe qualifizierter Archivare sein kann, f=FCr pri= vate >Fans alte Sendungen herauszusuchen und zu kopieren, ausserdem gibt es da >noch das Urheberrecht zu beachten. Ja klar. Und so weiter und so fort. =20 > >Aber es haben doch bestimmt einige Listmembers diese Sendungen auf VHS. >Frag >doch mal. =20 > >Gr=FCsse =20 > >Jan ^^^v^^^ =20 ---joseph > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) Warning: Humor MAC COMPUTERS Date: 09 Jun 2000 01:08:18 +0200 knightec@home.com writes: > >HEhehe, I thought I was lost in a P.C. Mailing list! Great to see the >Mac users >out there! Yes, we are there! > >Welp, Here's what I got! > >Beige G3 266 >Graphite Imac DV >Cable modem & Hub! > Some (old) PowerMacs and > Grey G4 / 500 and a little bit Equipment Regards ---joseph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) I want my money back! Date: 09 Jun 2000 09:46:34 +0200 Not from you, but from the EXPO. Yesterday I've been there and I heard this bloody expensive jingle only for one time. ONLY FOR ONE BLOODY TIME in about six hours. I don't want to know, how much it had cost, if it would appear there more frequently now. O DEAR Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) I want my money back! Date: 09 Jun 2000 08:18:16 GMT >Not from you, but from the EXPO. Yesterday I've been there and I heard >this bloody expensive jingle only for one time. >ONLY FOR ONE BLOODY TIME in about six hours. your english is improving ;) >I don't want to know, how much it had cost, if it would appear there >more frequently now. > >O DEAR > >Gunnar I thought they tried to disassociate themselves with this jingle? Perhaps they are embarrased of it? In what situation did you hear it? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) I want my money back! Date: 09 Jun 2000 14:54:28 +0200 Matthew Large wrote: > > I thought they tried to disassociate themselves with this jingle? > Perhaps they are embarrased of it? > In what situation did you hear it? On a large video screen were shown commercials of the EXPO-sponsors. Between two clips suddenly this strange morphing EXPO-emblem appeared and I heard the jingle. WOW. Very impressive (do you see the irony? ;-) Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: RE: (kw) Madonna Vs. Kraftwerk Date: 09 Jun 2000 21:44:34 +0200 On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:23:25 +0200 (CEST), Kaspar Larsen wrote: > >Ohh.. Then I have a suggestion. What if we made a list >of known Napster users who has a large database of >various KR material. I've lost most of my Mp3's due a >HD crash, so I'm downloading them all again. I'm sometimes on Napster under the Ultrawerk name. The problem is that my ADSL connection frequently gets lost , I have a program to reconnect but Napster itself doesn't reconnect ! Still ftp://lacava.dynip.com sometimes works and at least downloads are resumable. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo Ponz" Subject: (kw) new user Date: 08 Jun 2000 02:23:11 +0200 Hi, how are you? I'm new to his list and as you already know I'm here cause I'm a Kraftwer= k fan. I like very much the primitive techno music of Kraftwerk and many ot= her groups, many of them influenced by kw such as the excellent Aviador Dro (anyone know them?) The things I find most interesting about Karftwerk are their minimalism (music, lyrics and album design), themselves behaving like robots (a way = to approach immortality, I guess), the coldness of their quantified rythms, wich make songs look cold and warm at the same time, and something my kw friends tend not to appreciate too much: their great LYRICS!! I would also talk about how i feel their entire work as something unique = and the conception of most of their albums as what it is, a work of art wich = a common subject (i.e.: Computer World), not a collection of songs. See ya. tch=FCs! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: (kw) Rock in Rio (IMPORTANT!) Date: 10 Jun 2000 01:44:14 -0200 I really think it's a hoax... but in the Globo's site there is a poll about what band you want to see in "Rock in Rio". And KRAFTWERK is listed!!! O_O PLEASE EVERYBODY, VOTE! Here: http://www.oglobo.com.br/pergunta/sp.asp?id=8 I still think it's a DAMN BIG HOAX. *sigh* I don't believe they'll come back THIS year. I'll try anyway! Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Kiplinger" Subject: (kw) Atari? Date: 09 Jun 2000 22:04:06 PDT Does anyone think that Kraftwerk played Atari back in the day during their Computer World/Tour De France days? If you think they do, let us all know what Atari games KW might have played and even sampled? Jason ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Atari? Date: 10 Jun 2000 03:32:04 EDT In a message dated 6/10/00 1:04:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, exodusone@hotmail.com writes: << If you think they do, let us all know what Atari games KW might have played and even sampled? Jason _____________________ >> I had an atari but I don't seem to recall any KW sounds being sampled from that....but I really could be wrong!!!! ;-) Unfortunatly I haven't heard the original version of Tour De France either!!!!! :-/ Well, I guess I wasn't that much help!!!! *LOL* Sorry!!!!!! Electronically (*LOL*), Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Old and new "Tour de France" (was:Re: (kw) Atari?) Date: 10 Jun 2000 11:23:47 +0200 If you bought and heard the 1999 release of TdF (I just guess you did ;-) be sure you HAVE heard the original version of TdF, because there aren't any differences between the 1983 and 1999 releases (but the cover design of course) Gunnar CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com wrote: > _____________________ >> > > I had an atari but I don't seem to recall any KW sounds being sampled from > that....but I really could be wrong!!!! ;-) Unfortunatly I haven't heard the > original version of Tour De France either!!!!! :-/ Well, I guess I wasn't > that much help!!!! *LOL* Sorry!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 10 Jun 2000 23:48:28 +0200 Thanks to those who reacted to my request. I have visited Monster Melodi= es and I finally found the French 'Computer world' album (although it was ve= ry expensive). For the real hardcore collectors, I saw on their list a test pressing of this album (at 600 FF). Also a lot of other interesting items. Orders via mail are possible (monster@club-internet.fr). A website is com= ing soon. Regards Ivo > Ivo.Peeters@village.uunet.be writes: > > I will be spending a few days in Paris beginning of June and I would like > >to > >try to find a copy of 'Minicalculateur' or the French 'Computer world'. > > > IMHO you have only to visite > "Monster Melodies". > The best source for 2nd Hand vinyl KW-Records. > I can=B4t remind the adress in this minute, but > take a look in the yellow pages. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) Bartos Live - my impressions Date: 11 Jun 2000 09:57:23 +0200 I don't know if one of you saw Karl Bartos live at "Electronic Beats". At least nobody reported anything. So here are some of my impressions from the show I saw Friday night at VIVA ZWEI (TV). (First in German, OK?) Bartos spielte fast ausschließlich alte KRAFTWERK-Songs, allerdings in so ungehobelter Form, dass es manchmal richtig wehtat (insbesondere "Metropolis"). Da gehen KRAFTWERK selbst heute noch sensibler mit ihrer Musik um. Das erste Stück ("Numbers") und das letzte ("The Robots") waren die, die den KRAFTWERKschen Geist noch am ehesten durscheinen ließen und wo der Funke halbwegs übersprang. Der Rest klang so, als hätte Bartos nichts anderes zu tun gehabt, als unbedingt einen "MIX 2.0" anzufertigen. Die KRAFTWERK-typische Computerstimme, die Bartos längst nicht so im Griff hat, hat dann doch noch einiges herübergerettet. Der Vergleich zwischen "Tour de France" '83 und seiner Version von '98 lässt sich hier durchaus auch auf die anderen Stücke anwenden. Aber bitte, das ist mein ganz persönlicher Eindruck. (wobei das Publikum auch nicht gerade übermäßig begeistert schien. Aber die waren wahrscheinlich auch hauptsächlich wegen Moby gekommen ;-) Tut mir Leid, das so sagen zu müssen, Karl. Du hast es sicher gut gemeint ;-) Im Interview vorher sprach er noch von völlig neuen Songs von ihm, die er live spielen würde. Wo waren die? Bartos played almost only old KRAFTWERK-Songs, but in such a rude way that it sometimes hurts (especially "Metropolis"). KRAFTWERK themselves handle their music more carefully today. The first song ("Numbers") und the last ("The Robots") let me feel mostly the spirit of KRAFTWERK. The rest sounded more like "THE MIX 2.0". The KRAFTWERK-typical computer voice, which Bartos cannot master as his former colleagues, rescued a lot. The comparison of "Tour de France" '83 and his version from '98 is transferable to the other stuff. But please, this is my very personal impression. (the audience seemed not very impressed either, but i think most of them came because of Moby ;-) I'm sorry Karl to tell it that way. I'm sure you meant well ;-) In an interview before he told something about very new songs he would play live. Where have they been? Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) Elektric Music's Esperanto album Date: 11 Jun 2000 14:48:43 +0200 Hello, If you still don't have a copy of this great album, secondspin.com have five copies for only $4.95. I don't work for this company but at a so great price, you have no excuse not to buy it ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 11 Jun 2000 14:52:51 +0200 On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:48:28 +0200, Peeters Ivo wrote: >For the real hardcore collectors, I saw on their list a test pressing of >this album (at 600 FF). Also a lot of other interesting items. at that price, it's really a shame ! but if people are mad enough to buy an old vinyl at that price.... I think the KW original first LP or the "Organisation" one can even be found at a cheaper price. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) Re: Bartos Live - my impressions Date: 11 Jun 2000 14:47:40 +0200 btw: in this interview he mentioned a "new product" means a new maxi will come in autumn. Gunnar Wess wrote: > In an interview before he told something about very new songs he would > play live. Where have they been? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Zaikonnikov" Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 11 Jun 2000 16:53:16 +0300 > > "Das Boot" should be accredited to German techno group U96. It was > available in the USA briefly on Cohiba/PolyGram (album cat. no. 221 102). Yep, I've got the U96's Das Boot to compare. The version I was talking about is the same but without lyrics. -- Eugene. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Finarvas Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 11 Jun 2000 18:37:19 +0200 Eugene Zaikonnikov wrote: > > > > "Das Boot" should be accredited to German techno group U96. It was > > available in the USA briefly on Cohiba/PolyGram (album cat. no. 221 102). > > Yep, I've got the U96's Das Boot to compare. The version I was talking about > is the same but without lyrics. > > -- > Eugene. Then it's probably one of their own remixes. /Finarvas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) The 3 Kraftwerk Anthologies Date: 11 Jun 2000 23:45:23 +0200 Apparently there has been some confusion upon these 3 CDROMs, The price is for all three and it is incl. postage and handling. > Hi >=20 > I still got some copies of the Kraftwerk MP3 Anthologies. >=20 > It is 3 CDROMs with about 12 hours of music each. >=20 > I'll sell the 3 CDROM set for US$35 or =A325 or 70 DM, that includes > colourprinted covers and postage to all over the world. >=20 > mail me for a full tracklist and ordering instructions. >=20 > at nellemann@cool.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) VOTE VOTE EVERYBODY !! Date: 11 Jun 2000 21:02:09 -0300 PLEASE EVERYBODY, VOTE! Here: http://www.oglobo.com.br/pergunta/sp.asp?id=8 -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TECHNO" Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 11 Jun 2000 22:32:44 -0300 Does anybody where i can download expo2000 Video(full screen quality ,MPeg or quicktime)???? thanks a lot jp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TECHNO" Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK PHOTO GALLERY Date: 11 Jun 2000 22:33:03 -0300 KRAFTWERK PHOTO GALLERY history and present www.jpp.com.ar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 11 Jun 2000 15:33:34 +0200 At 14.52 11/06/00 +0200, Arnaud de Bonald wrote: >I think the KW original first LP or the "Organisation" one can even be found >at a cheaper price. Once (4/5 years ago) I saw it at 980 DM, but I hadn't enough money... ;-( Do you think it's too expensive? Didi Milano - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 12 Jun 2000 12:03:24 +0200 (CEST) > > Does anybody where i can download expo2000 > Video(full screen quality ,MPeg > or quicktime)???? > > thanks a lot > jp The best way to get it, is off the Expo2000 single. It contains 2 versions. They're stored in the data/qts/ directory. Yours Sincerely Kaspar D. Larsen aka. Dr. Who? ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 12:23:47 +0200 I think too that an original copy of 'Organisation' will never go under 100 DM. Probably more in the neighborhood of 500 DM. If the price is low it's probably a counterfeit copy (like the one I have). The KW1 on the other hand is easier to find. I have seen copies below 50 DM at record fairs. Ivo > > At 14.52 11/06/00 +0200, Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > > >I think the KW original first LP or the "Organisation" one can even be found > >at a cheaper price. > > > > Once (4/5 years ago) I saw it at 980 DM, but I hadn't enough money... ;-( > Do you think it's too expensive? > > Didi > Milano - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 12:46:52 +0200 Monster Melodies 9 Rue des Dechargeurs 75001 Paris METRO: Chatelet Les Halles > Can you post up the address for us? Just the street (or even the nearest > metro station) would be OK and I'll go there next time I visit. > > Thanks :) > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 12 Jun 2000 16:04:05 +0200 (CEST) --- tadream skrev: > what do u mean two versions? Two different sizes. The large one weights in @ 67,6 MB, so if you wants to D/L it, oit should take some time.. ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: FW: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 12 Jun 2000 15:17:19 +0100 Why don't you buy the Expo2000 CD? I can appreciate the need to download something from the internet if it's otherwise unavailable (the TOTP2 version of Expo2000, or their 1970s or 1980s videos) but don't you think R+F deserve to profit a little from your desire to obtain a produkt of theirs? > ---------- > From: Kaspar Larsen > > --- tadream skrev: > what do u mean > two versions? > > Two different sizes. The large one weights in @ 67,6 > MB, so if you wants to D/L it, oit should take some time.. > http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Ralf & Florian have a stalker Date: 12 Jun 2000 15:56:31 +0100 http://www.arthur-brehm.de/ Only joking, but the link takes you to pictures of their homes. Click on "Kraftwerk"; then "Klingklang-pictures". http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Karl's motivation Date: 12 Jun 2000 15:57:56 +0100 TECHNO wrote: > KRAFTWERK PHOTO GALLERY > history and present > > www.jpp.com.ar Nice to see these in one place, though how about some links to the sites you took them from? ;-) (BTW, the front page is blank unless Javascript is used!). WRT Karl Bartos's recent performance: why on earth did he perform Kraftwerk songs? Surely he has not now just a "golden oldies" act? Was it just the money? K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jzurdo" Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_K=28evorkian=29=3F?= Date: 08 Jun 2000 21:53:50 +0200 I=B4ve just read that Fran=E7ois K. (Kevorkian, I supose... ) has just ta= ken out a new CD (Dj Mix) called =B4=B4Essential Mix=B4=B4 reviewing classics the= mes of Dance Music from the last 25 years, this CD includes a Kraftwerk=B4s tra= ck, don=B4t ask me which track is this. . . Jzurdo. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TECHNO" Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 11 Jun 2000 22:20:32 -0300 Does anybody where i can download expo2000 Video(full screen quality ,MPeg or quicktime)???? thanks a lot jp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TECHNO" Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK PHOTO GALLERY Date: 10 Jun 2000 04:52:11 -0300 KRAFTWERK PHOTO GALLERY history and present www.jpp.com.ar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jzurdo" Subject: (kw) Live in Belgium ,Live at Sheffield City Hall (1991 VIDEOS). Date: 10 Jun 2000 13:09:56 +0200 Live in Belgium 1991 Live at Sheffield City Hall 1991 Anyone can tell me where can i find these VIDEOS ? (VHS PAL). I=B4ve seen these at Tour de Kraft page(i=B4m not sure) a few months ago. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Pedoto" Subject: (kw) good one Date: 08 Jun 2000 22:31:32 -0400 >Dave has been one of my best friends for 28 years, >a co-worker for 10 years and in 3 months (God help me) >will be related to me by marriage. Wow! Congratulations! I hope you two are very happy together! ------------------------- It's nice to see sombody here is at least a little bit witty. It was done out of context but, it's still funny. Good one. I wondered how long it would take one of you to do it. Gary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TECHNO" Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK PHOTO GALLERY Date: 11 Jun 2000 22:22:24 -0300 KRAFTWERK PHOTO GALLERY history and present www.jpp.com.ar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jzurdo" Subject: RE: (kw) new user Date: 10 Jun 2000 13:10:10 +0200 Hi Eduardo, i know Aviador Dro (y tambien a sus obreros especializados : ). Pero creo que en esta lista solo los conocemos los hispano-hablantes. Un saludo. Jzurdo. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TECHNO" Subject: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 11 Jun 2000 22:22:15 -0300 Does anybody where i can download expo2000 Video(full screen quality ,MPeg or quicktime)???? thanks a lot jp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 17:21:46 +0200 On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:23:47 +0200, Peeters Ivo wrote: >I think too that an original copy of 'Organisation' will never go under 100 >DM. Probably more in the neighborhood of 500 DM. If the price is low it's >probably a counterfeit copy (like the one I have). I didn't know this LP was so rare. I think I saw copies on Ebay for $50-$80. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf & Florian have a stalker Date: 12 Jun 2000 16:31:00 +0100 Richard Marston wrote: > > http://www.arthur-brehm.de/ > > Only joking, but the link takes you to pictures of their homes. Click on > "Kraftwerk"; then "Klingklang-pictures". The "Kraftwerk" link seems to break under some browsers. If anyone else gets the same problem, you may, as I did, have to look at the source code to get the direct URL. I must say however that from the photos I've seen (again, some of them refused to load!) this is potentially a serious invasion of privacy - not the sort of thing R&F enjoy, and I do wonder whether showing the houses along with a note about when they are empty is necessary or responsible! K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: FW: (kw) Ralf & Florian have a stalker Date: 12 Jun 2000 16:40:15 +0100 > "along with a note about when they are empty is necessary or responsible!" > > Goodness, does it say that? My German is virtually non-existent -- except what I've learnt from KW lyrics! :-) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf & Florian have a stalker Date: 12 Jun 2000 18:34:04 +0100 Richard Marston wrote: > Goodness, does it say that? My German is virtually non-existent -- except > what I've learnt from KW lyrics! Er... It says this in English... K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) The Red Robots Date: 12 Jun 2000 20:02:33 +0200 At 19.22 07/06/00 +0200, Lech wrote: > >Richard M wondered: >>Die mensch maschine red vinyl=20 Anybody want to lend me =A3400 ($640) ? > >The French one's only =A3220... Do anyone have the french one? Could you give me the code numbers of that item? I have one, but I don't know if it's official or not. Thank you. Didi Milano - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 22:49:01 +0200 bonald@altern.org writes: > >On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:48:28 +0200, Peeters Ivo wrote: > >>For the real hardcore collectors, I saw on their list a test pressing of >>this album (at 600 FF). Also a lot of other interesting items. > >at that price, it's really a shame ! A shame? For a test-pressing? This is just a little bit more than nothing. How often will you still SEE this item? > >but if people are mad enough to buy an old vinyl at that price.... > >I think the KW original first LP or the "Organisation" one can even be >found at a cheaper price. Yes, of course. As far I can remember it was a million-seller hm? ---joseph > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Ralf & Florian have a stalker Date: 12 Jun 2000 13:53:49 -0700 >> Goodness, does it say that? My German is virtually non-existent -- except >> what I've learnt from KW lyrics! > >Er... It says this in English... Heehee... Ralf and Florian certainly have nice homes, assuming these photos aren't a hoax. I especially like Ralf's home... A huge box. A fortified mansion. Very stately. Houses here in California don't look like that... But, of course, most Californian houses aren't more than 50-100 years old. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 13:56:14 -0700 >>at that price, it's really a shame ! >A shame? >For a test-pressing? > >This is just a little bit more than nothing. > >How often will you still SEE this item? Do test pressings ever have different mixes of songs? I wonder if there are any KW test pressings with alternate versions of songs? ---Jason Polland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Bartos Live - my impressions Date: 12 Jun 2000 13:58:52 -0700 >Bartos played almost only old KRAFTWERK-Songs, but in such a rude way >that it sometimes hurts (especially "Metropolis"). KRAFTWERK themselves >handle their music more carefully today. Could you elaborate on that? What do you mean by "rude", exactly? Did he make the songs sound like they belonged on "Booty Thumping Bass Volume 3" or something? ---Jason Polland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:01:41 +0200 > > >I think the KW original first LP or the "Organisation" one can even be > >found at a cheaper price. > Yes, of course. > As far I can remember it was a million-seller hm? > I saw a copy listed today on Netsounds.com for 137 UK pounds. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:06:23 +0200 Ivo.Peeters@village.uunet.be writes: =20 > > I saw a copy listed today on Netsounds.com for 137 UK pounds. Hmm What source... What condition... =20 I=B4m sure, it=B4s not an origin-press or very damaged. =20 > >Ivo > ---joseph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:08:20 +0200 > >> Once (4/5 years ago) I saw it at 980 DM, but I hadn't enough money... >;-( >> Do you think it's too expensive? A question of the condition. > >> >> Didi >> Milano - PDN ---joseph > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) Re: new user Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:56:16 +0200 > I'm new to his list and as you already know I'm here cause I'm a Kraftwer= > k > fan. I like very much the primitive techno music of Kraftwerk and many ot= > her > groups, many of them influenced by kw such as the excellent Aviador Dro > (anyone know them?) Welcome Eduardo. Of course we do ;-) That's a good chance to plug my page about them! Pagina no Oficial del Aviador Dro: Unofficial Aviador Dro Home Page: http://personal5.iddeo.es/ret007en/aviador/ http://fly.to/aviador jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 13 Jun 2000 08:06:18 +1000 Hi, I will not send receipts, I think it's rude to ask for them on a mailing list. Regards, Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) The Red Robots Date: 13 Jun 2000 01:36:26 +0200 At 21.26 12/06/00 +0100, John Shilcock wrote: >Hi, > >I have this item. :o) > >The Catalogure number is 2S06885444. >The number stamped / scratched on to the a side inner ring is 2S06885444A >The number stamped / scratched on to the a side inner ring is 2S06885444B > >Right now I'm not too sure if there are spaces between any of the numbers >(the disk is in another place) but you should be able to identify it from >there. > >I've not heard of a bootleg / pirate version before so you could be in luck. > >How much did you pay for it? (if you don't mind me asking?) > >Keep Werking >John Shilcock Hi John, thank you for answering. The code number is the same, so I should be lucky, having bought it for 190 DM about 2 years ago. I only want to know if on the cover of your item there is, on the top to the right, the word <> written in white fonts. Thank you very much! Didi Milano - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 12 Jun 2000 22:48:13 -0600 (MDT) On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, [iso-8859-1] Kaspar Larsen wrote: > > Does anybody where i can download expo2000 > > Video(full screen quality ,MPeg > > or quicktime)???? > > The best way to get it, is off the Expo2000 single. It > contains 2 versions. They're stored in the data/qts/ > directory. Eh? I have the E2K single and there is no data track on it. Just the four music tracks. Are you perhaps referring to the picture disk that was auctioned off by the expo people? -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam Krumbein" Subject: Re: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 12 Jun 2000 21:47:50 -0700 >Eh? I have the E2K single and there is no data track on it. Just the four >music tracks. > >Are you perhaps referring to the picture disk that was auctioned off by >the expo people? There are actually two versions of Expo2000 that you can buy. Mine is the German-import version, and does not contain any video clips. However, it did come with a cool 'holographic' jewelcase that makes the cover art move. ;) If I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I am, the UK version of Expo2000 is the only one that contains the video clips. Adam Krumbein Senior News Editor, 3D Portal Network http://www.3dportal.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: Odp: (kw) EXPO2000 Video Date: 13 Jun 2000 08:23:16 +0200 u forgot to add that that the base on the UK version has a cool echo to it and that the drum beat differs from that on the German release (but the changes seem to be only on the third track) > There are actually two versions of Expo2000 that you can buy. Mine is the > German-import version, and does not contain any video clips. However, it did > come with a cool 'holographic' jewelcase that makes the cover art move. ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) R&F have a stalker Date: 13 Jun 2000 10:08:31 +0200 Kevin wrote: >I must say however that from the photos I've seen (again, some of them< >refused to load!) this is potentially a serious invasion of privacy - not < >the sort of thing R&F enjoy, < I agree! This kind of documentation nowaday is pure mythology. ( next step will be the hidden camera in the bathroom ) I'm not happy of mythology about KwK, I think to R&F as alive persons working in our world. The more their privacy is broken , the more they seclude themself. The more the mythology the more the distance from us. The more the distance the more the time it occours to the sound of KwK to reach our planet! ;-) Evolution -not - rEvolution # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Bartos Live - my impressions Date: 13 Jun 2000 10:11:36 +0200 > Could you elaborate on that? What do you mean by "rude", exactly? Did > he make the songs sound like they belonged on "Booty Thumping Bass Volume > 3" or something? > > Jason Polland No. Maybe "rude" is not the correct word for it. He really tries to reproduce the song as original as possible. What I miss is a little bit of spiritedness. Of course he really plays all songs live together with an additional keyboarder. But the sounds are sometimes too sterile, without an own live. In German we call this "Werksounds" (has nothing to do with KRAFTWERK), means sounds preprogrammed by the producer of a synthesizer. Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tjodolf Ulriksen" Subject: RE: Old and new "Tour de France" (was:Re: (kw) Atari?) Date: 13 Jun 2000 02:36:45 -0700 >Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:23:47 +0200 >From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) >To: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com >CC: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Old and new "Tour de France" (was:Re: (kw) Atari?) > > >If you bought and heard the 1999 release of TdF (I just guess you did >;-) be sure you HAVE heard the original version of TdF, because there >aren't any differences between the 1983 and 1999 releases (but the cover >design of course) > >Gunnar > > And of course the sound quality; in the Kling Klang Analogue mix, the snaps have about as much punch as cooked spaghetti. It sounds like a BASF C60 cassette has been filtered for tape hiss. TU Support Team / PornIndustry.com / webmaster@pornindustry.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Mexican Tour De France Date: 12 Jun 2000 15:47:49 +0200 Vladimir Tittl wrote: > Has anybody heard this? Do they sing in spanish? > Artist/Title: KRAFTWERK El Baile De La Escoba (Rare Version Remezclada > Mexican Tour De France 12", Spanish title p/s w/Breakdance credit, > POP-661) Nope. This is titled that way because of Tour de France was included in the soundtrack of the film Breakdance (if I remember correctly) and this song it could be heard when one of the characters dances with a broom ('escoba' in Spanish). HTH DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) stop Date: 12 Jun 2000 15:48:13 +0200 Gary Pedoto wrote: > David > > I know you think you're helping me and I appreciate it but, this is > just making things worse. Everytime I think it's over, it starts up again. > It was dying down finally little by little. I'm afraid now it will start up > again. > Your hearts in the right place but, believe me, this won't help. > The amount of people responding to things said weeks ago continues. > The overwhelming amount of people are just ignoring it and, like me, > are just waiting for it to end. I suggest you do the same. > > Thanks Sniff!! ... Hey, I'm starting to cry! Richard Marston wrote: >Damn right; I'm no Windows deviant either. :) Be careful, you may be accused to encourage the Microsoft-phobic. ;-) DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: Ralf & Florian have a stalker Date: 13 Jun 2000 14:45:30 +0200 Jason P wrote: > /.../ most Californian houses aren't more than 50-100 years old. So are most houses in Duesseldorf... -- Per instrumenta mea quaero meipsum # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) FIRST POSITION Date: 13 Jun 2000 11:33:10 -0300 Take Kraftwerk for the first placement !! click Kraftwerk click ENVIAR Kraftwerk LIVE -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Victor Subject: (kw) FIRST POSITION Date: 13 Jun 2000 11:34:46 -0300 Take Kraftwerk for the first placement !! click Kraftwerk click ENVIAR http://www.oglobo.com.br/pergunta/sp.asp?id=8 -- Victor vh@urbi.com.br http://www.urbi.com.br/users/vh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 13 Jun 2000 12:01:36 +0200 At 23.08 12/06/00 +0200, the new ROBOT voice ;-\) wrote: >> From: "Didi" >> Once (4/5 years ago) I saw it at 980 DM, but I hadn't enough money... ;-( >> Do you think it's too expensive? >x-cuse me , but r u nuts ??? *G+* ;-) i wouldn't pay nearly 1.000 >deutschmarks 4 absolutely no record @ all !!! Yes, perhaps I'm nuts. I don't like it but, after all, it's the first work of R&F....... >maybe only 4 the original master tape of the new kw album !!! *LOL* ;-))) ...'cause you know well we'll never see a new KW album..! 8-D Didi Milano - PDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didi Subject: (kw) Tone float Date: 13 Jun 2000 11:45:24 +0200 At 23.08 12/06/00 +0200, you wrote: >>> Once (4/5 years ago) I saw it at 980 DM, but I hadn't enough money... >>> Do you think it's too expensive? >>> Didi >A question of the condition. >---joseph It was in mint condition. So? What is the definitely right price for an original copy in mint condition of "Tone Float"? And the first Kraftwerk album? Didi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Se=F1or_Coconut?= Date: 13 Jun 2000 10:20:39 -0600 For those that are curious about the Señor Coconut CD (w/ the excellent Kraftwerk covers done in Rumba style), it is coming out in the US and is quite cheap -- US$13.99 retail. I found it for $10.95 at buy.com, and CDNOW.com has it listed at $12.95, I believe. The release date is July 4th. Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Fw: Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 13 Jun 2000 23:19:08 +0100 Jason Polland wrote > Do test pressings ever have different mixes of songs? I wonder if there are any KW test pressings with alternate versions of songs? I suspect in most cases that mixes on test pressings would be the same as those on the official releases. However, I have a version of Neon Lights which is different to that which finally saw the light of day on The Man Machine. A subtle difference but a difference none the less :o). I'm working on making an extract available as soon as I have completed updating my site. I'm hoping this will compensate (in a small way maybe) the disappointment of that 'Introduction...' fiasco. I'll keep this list posted. Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm (Version 2 out soon) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: Fw: Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 14 Jun 2000 09:23:54 +1000 > However, I have a version of Neon Lights which is different to that which > finally saw the light of day on The Man Machine. A subtle difference but a > difference none the less :o). I'm working on making an extract available as > soon as I have completed updating my site. I'm hoping this will compensate > (in a small way maybe) the disappointment of that 'Introduction...' fiasco. Please make it the entire track, not just an excerpt! :-) Vladimir Tittl ________________________ http://living-net.com/vt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) The Jingle Date: 14 Jun 2000 01:49:12 +0200 Time Magazine Europe (June, 12) marks the KW Expo jingle as a "lavish overspending". See http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2000/0612/hanover.html - well, any promotion is good promotion ... Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) The Jingle Date: 13 Jun 2000 17:12:22 -0700 >Time Magazine Europe (June, 12) marks the KW Expo jingle as a "lavish >overspending". See >http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2000/0612/hanover.html - well, any >promotion is good promotion ... Thanks for the link! What an interesting article... Is it common practice for European news articles to discuss money in US dollar amounts? The Expo 2000 sounds like quite a spectacle. Although the irony of a huge maze of tree trunks being displayed at an enviornmental fair is interesting... ---Jason Polland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Armin.Poecker@t-online.de (Armin Poecker) Subject: (kw) French red vinyl Date: 13 Jun 2000 20:14:34 +0200 > Do anyone have the french one? > Could you give me the code numbers of that item? > I have one, but I don't know if it's official or not. > Thank you. > > Didi > Milano - PDN The catalogue number on the label is as stated by John Shilcock. But A 'Fame' sleeve does not belong on a red vinyl pressing of 'Man Machine' from France. It should have a first issue (not Fame) sleeve with a stickered catalogue number 'SPC 85444' over the regular catalogue number on the top right corner of the sleeve backside. These stickers may not be present on all copies, though... But it should also come with a full inner sleeve - not with an insert sheet, not without anything. I've never heard of a counterfeit, but this habit of sleeve-swapping is quite common to enhance the looks of a red vinyl copy with a worn sleeve. About Tone Float: it's quite easy to distinguish counterfeits from originals: the original pressing does have a very flimsy sleeve (like thick paper). As the vinyl is thick and heavy, they almost always show lots of ringwear. An original copy in mint condition (something I have never heard of...) may get DM 980,-. For the regular-condition copies, the range is DM 400,- to DM 600,-. If in doubt, you can take a look at the original label at: http://home.t-online.de/home/340036536931/2uklporl.jpg Bye, Gunther # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ernesto Perez" Subject: Re: (kw) Fran=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E7?=ois K(evorkian)? Date: 12 Jun 2000 11:58:16 -0500 Home Computer... E ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >I=B4ve just read that Fran=E7ois K. (Kevorkian, I supose... ) has just taken out >a new CD (Dj Mix) called =B4=B4Essential Mix=B4=B4 reviewing classics themes of >Dance Music from the last 25 years, this CD includes a Kraftwerk=B4s track, >don=B4t ask me which track is this. . . > >Jzurdo. -- ___________________________________________________________ EZwerk audio / visual / design Chicago, IL / 312.490.9611 ezwerk@intersurfer.com / http://members.intersurfer.com/ezwerk On the decks: Fran=E7ois K / Essential Mix -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:08:49 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "Kraftwerk mailing list" Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 3:33 PM > At 14.52 11/06/00 +0200, Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > > > I think the KW original first LP or the "Organisation" one can even be found > > at a cheaper price. > > Once (4/5 years ago) I saw it at 980 DM, but I hadn't enough money... ;-( > Do you think it's too expensive? > > Didi > Milano - PDN x-cuse me , but r u nuts ??? *G+* ;-) i wouldn't pay nearly 1.000 deutschmarks 4 absolutely no record @ all !!! maybe only 4 the original master tape of the new kw album !!! *LOL* ;-))) btw : this " tone float " album by the pre-kw group organisation jus' sounds like weird kraut rock *hit 2 me !!! definitely not worth 2 spend sooo much money on it !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut New Single Date: 14 Jun 2000 17:00:12 BST Senor Coconut is to release a single on 3rd July in the UK. It's title "Tour De France". Source HMV, Oxford Street, London. I know no other details. Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm (Version 2 out soon) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(2): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 14 Jun 2000 22:06:12 +0200 micROBOT@freakmail.de writes: =20 > >x-cuse me , but r u nuts ??? *G+* ;-)=20 =20 Are=B4nt we all not a little bite of that? =20 (8-) =20 ---joseph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re(3): (kw) Record shops in Paris Date: 14 Jun 2000 22:17:21 +0200 jason@issaonline.com writes: =20 > > Do test pressings ever have different mixes of songs? Maybee ever, but I=B4m sure - not test-pressings of Kraftwerk-Lp=B4s. =20 > > I wonder if there are any KW test pressings with alternate versions o= f >songs? Mabee the one or anothe 7-inch (big questionmark!) =20 Let=B4s ask Guenther or IAC. If anyone can answer this... =20 > > ---Jason Polland ---joseph > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 15 Jun 2000 00:54:14 +0000 > > What's all this I hear about a recording involving Karl and > > Austrian performance artist Wolfgang Flatz? > > The single ("Wunderkind") is scheduled for June 12th. The album > ("Love & Violence") is scheduled for June 26th. The CD single is now out on Epic: Flatz: Wunderkind Catalogue number: EPC 669035 2 Tracklisting: 1. Karl Bartos' Radio Edit (3:40") 2. Toy in The Temple Of Stress Remix (6:03") 3. Pearl And Spleen Mix (6:19") 4. Synthy Pop Excursion Mix (5:38") 5. Karl Bartos Long Version (5:21") Karl Bartos is credited for composition and preproduction. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 14 Jun 2000 20:58:10 EDT In a message dated 6/14/00 6:57:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, k_z@gmx.de writes: << The CD single is now out on Epic: Flatz: Wunderkind Catalogue number: EPC 669035 2 Tracklisting: 1. Karl Bartos' Radio Edit (3:40") 2. Toy in The Temple Of Stress Remix (6:03") 3. Pearl And Spleen Mix (6:19") 4. Synthy Pop Excursion Mix (5:38") 5. Karl Bartos Long Version (5:21") Karl Bartos is credited for composition and preproduction. Klaus Zaepke >> So what does it sound like? I haven't had the chance to get it yet!!! I hope it's good!! :-))) B4N, Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) The Price Is Right? Date: 15 Jun 2000 11:46:22 +0100 Somebody wrote: 'What is the definitely right price for an original copy in mint condition of "Tone Float"? And the first Kraftwerk album?' Outside of the emotional value you invest in a item, they are only worth whatever someone else is prepared to pay to obtain it. Anyway, part of the fun in hunting for rare albums is the fact that the sale price can vary from place to place =96 you can find that rare album AND get a bargain sometimes. I've often seen rare jazz albums in VG or mint condition sold at record fares for much less than what they would be by a specialist shop/dealer who knows that market better; the same's true for KW, as I bought the French language version of TEE for less than Fr50. For me, my rare KW items are priceless -- beacuse they're not for sale, not because somebody else somewhere announces they are worth X amount of money. :-) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) The Price Is Right? Date: 15 Jun 2000 12:44:11 BST Richard Marston wrote >For me, my rare KW items are priceless -- beacuse they're not for sale, not >because somebody else somewhere announces they are worth X amount of money. I totally agree with what Richard has said... especially the fun discovering a rare item just sitting amongst other 'normal' items for a bargin.. About 15 years ago I was in a record shop I had not visited before and hanging on the wall was an original copy of Tone Float... asking price 25 UKP.. I talked it down to 20UKP... now that was a bargin. 2 weeks later I saw another copy.. (in another shop) .. again asking price 25 UKP.. this time though I couldn't knock them down. I normally don't buy duplicates but every now and again I just can't resist.. IF it's a bargin *luck on this scale though has never repeated itself :o( * Do I still have 2 copies?... No... about a year later someone offered me 120 UKP for one of them... how could I refuse?.. the money raised funded future KW purchases... :o) How much do I value the remaining copy... like Richard I can't, as it's not for sale. There are items for sale out there all the time... mostly prices seem way too high... but that is a personal view - I don't spend much on KW items, I'm a bargin hunter. But high prices on KW items for sale makes your perceived value of your own collection go up... which can't be a bad thing? Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 16 Jun 2000 00:15:31 +0000 > > The CD single is now out on Epic: > > Flatz: Wunderkind > > Catalogue number: EPC 669035 2 > > Karl Bartos is credited for composition and preproduction. > > So what does it sound like? I haven't had the chance to get it yet!!! > I hope it's good!! :-))) You can find the video clip for the single (in Realvideo format) on the Flatz WWW site at http://www.flatz.net. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Sundkvist" Subject: (kw) The Robots Cover Date: 16 Jun 2000 01:51:05 CEST Hello, Did you know that swedish hardcore/synthgroup Teddybears STHLM has made a cover of The Robots? I've got it as an .mp3, I will try to upload it on a FTP-account. /Erik ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: (kw) S T O P Radioaktivitaet Date: 15 Jun 2000 17:26:32 +0200 German leader reaches deal to eliminate nuclear power plants: http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/06/14/bc.germany.nuclear.ap/ ciao, *luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 16 Jun 2000 09:37:56 +0200 Thanks for the intel, Klaus! "You're never alone with a [clone]," huh? (http://www.flatz.net/album_genius.htm) Seems they've pushed back the album date to Jouly 3rd, though... -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soeren Larsen Subject: (kw) Autobahn LP sleeve question Date: 16 Jun 2000 13:05:30 +0200 (MET DST) Hi KW-list I'm seeking information about a release of Autobahn LP. It is: LP: 1974 GE (Philips 6305 231) [dashboard ps] What is the sleeve like on that release? As Lazlos discog says dashboard ps I assume it is the moterway incl. the dashboard in the bottom. Is that true? I'm interested in an LP release with the moterway without the dashboard. What is the most original release with this sleeve available. This is for collecting only, I will probably listen the CD instead. thanks, soren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: Autobahn LP sleeve question Date: 16 Jun 2000 14:11:24 +0200 Soeren L skrev: > I'm seeking information about /.../ Philips 6305 231 [dashboard ps] /.../ Is that true? Yup. (http://home.t-online.de/home/0625138143/kwdisca.htm) > What is the most original release with this sleeve available. Dashboard one; the "motorway sans dashboard" is the 1C 064 2400 701 1985 re-release which - if memory serves me - is equal to the '86/87 CD issue. > I will probably listen the CD instead. You'll miss a minute or so of "Mitternacht." ;) -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. ICQ# 39315191 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: (kw) The Robots - Coconut style Date: 17 Jun 2000 20:24:00 +0200 (CEST) All I can say about Senior Coconuts version of "The Robots": It's interesting! A great version! no wonder Kraftwerk let them make it official! Kaspar D. Larsen aka. Dr.Who? ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 17 Jun 2000 14:12:32 -0600 > > The CD single is now out on Epic: > > Flatz: Wunderkind > > Catalogue number: EPC 669035 2 > > Karl Bartos is credited for composition and preproduction. Any ideas where this can be ordered online? I've looked in a lot of the usual places with no luck... Thanks, Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Mexican Tour De France Date: 18 Jun 2000 17:58:37 +0200 > I owned the soundtrack for Breakdance and TDF was not > on the soundtrack. You're right. Tour de France was included in the film but not in the soundtrack disc itself, neither on the credits (the closing titles), to request of Kraftwerk themselves. According to Kevin Busby's FAQ site the CD soundtrack of the film contains a cover version of the track (by the group '10-Speed'), and Kraftwerk had decided to release a remix of their song only as a single. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Trummel Subject: (kw) The Price Is Right? Date: 18 Jun 2000 09:26:50 -0700 I got my original copy of Tone Float for about US$200 a few years ago. The cover is pretty flimsy and has slight ring wear but otherwise is in very good shape. The LP is in mint condition (looks almost unplayed-no spindle marks at all-can't imagine why it wasn't played more?!?!) I'd been looking for a copy of this record for 15-20 years here in the US with absolutely no luck so I didn't mind (much) paying this price when I found it online. I've found all sorts of hard-to-get KW online. It's real hard to find any decent vinyl here in California so I go online and pay what the market will bear. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Videography Date: 18 Jun 2000 21:08:46 +0200 Does anyone know if there is a Videography of all Kraftwerk promo-videos available on internet? These are the videos I know so far: - Autobahn (cartoon, non-official?) - Radioactivity - Trans Europe Express - Das Model (German version) - The Robots (English version) - Tour de France (German version, also on 1999 Maxi-CD) - Tour de France (remix single) - Musique Non Stop - The Telephone Call - The Robots (remix version) - Expo 2000 - Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 Any others known? Dirk from Hamburg. P.S.: Has anyone videos/mpgs/avis/... to share? Please let me know. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in the charts Date: 18 Jun 2000 21:08:56 +0200 Does anyone know where I can found charts-archives on the internet? I'm interested which kraftwerk titles have ever reached chart rankings (German/international) and when they had their best position. Any hints and any charts are welcome. This is what I found at http://www.funrecords.de/charts.html (German Top20, 1980-1999): 22.04.1982 - 7. Das Model 04.12.1986 - 13. Musique Non Stop 11.07.1991 - 18. Die Roboter (The Mix) I wondered that Tour de France was no Top20 hit, but it seems to be true. As I know The Model was No.1 in Great Britain and Expo2000 was 34 in Germany. Who knows exactly when? Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) Hits of the Century on TV Date: 18 Jun 2000 21:08:35 +0200 On wednesday, the 21th June, 22:00 theres a documentation on ARTE (German/French tv-station, can seen via ASTRA-satellite all over europe) called 'Jahr100Hits' (4 hours!). ('Kultige Konzertausschnitte, gestylte Videos und nostalgische Fernsehproduktionen') Perhaps they will show some Kraftwerk. Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tnoise Subject: (kw) MP3 Files Date: 18 Jun 2000 15:42:16 -0400 Alright people I know I'm late about this but can someone please tell me where to find MP3 files for the 2 new unreleased songs that Kraftwerk played on their last US tour. Please HELP. Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos & Wolfgang Flatz? Date: 18 Jun 2000 21:57:55 +0000 > > > The CD single is now out on Epic: > > > Flatz: Wunderkind > > > Catalogue number: EPC 669035 2 > > > Karl Bartos is credited for composition and preproduction. > > Any ideas where this can be ordered online? I've looked in a lot of the > usual places with no luck... Try Bigbag (www.bigbag.de) or JPC (www.jpc.de). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Elektro Beats" Bartos Special Date: 18 Jun 2000 21:57:55 +0000 Did anyone tape the Karl Bartos Special on Radio Eins "Elektro Beats" three weeks ago? Please mail me privately. Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger" Subject: (kw) re: Kraftwerk in the charts Date: 18 Jun 2000 23:41:50 +0300 Hello, The Model / Computer Love was #1 in England on the chart dated 6 February 1982. Roger # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk: Danish appearance Date: 19 Jun 2000 01:03:07 +0200 (CEST) Wow.. I'm amazed! This weekend has been in Kraftwerks sign in Denmark: First saturday night: A radioshow with DJ's and such things used a sample of Expo2000 in a mix. It was GREAT! Then a little later, they played Senior Coconuts version of "The Robots". As I stated earlier, it was interesting.. Then sunday evening, whle I was zapping around, I saw a host holding up the cover from Tour de France LP. t was a kid's show who was having a sports special. They was focusing on "Le Tour" and what could be more suiting than TdF? Well, that's all from me! Yours sincerelly Kaspar D. Larsen ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) mini spam Date: 18 Jun 2000 23:00:27 -0600 If you're bored and have nothing to do on your Internet connection, check out my streaming "radio" channel: http://www.xmission.com/~myq It's basically my collection of synthy stuff: trance, techno, synthpop, symphonic electronica, etc. I did this so I could listen to 20GB of mp3s at work without having to put them on my work computer... Have fun(?) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Bendsen Subject: (kw) KW vs. Aphex T. Date: 19 Jun 2000 08:18:40 +0200 Hi Werkers. I just found this on www.hotstuff.se 37915 CD TELE:FUNKEN A COLLECTION OF..Kraftwerk vs Aphex T, cool electro 149- Has anybody got an idea of what this is?? Greetinx from Henrik Keep werkin' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: (kw) Bartos at Elektrobeats Date: 19 Jun 2000 10:27:10 CEST Yesterday I saw the Karl Bartos Live on VIVA 2. Not quite funny, this one. Imagine Kraftwerk is playing without Ralf & Florian with a PC with cheap-soundcard-preset-sounds and someone tries to sing to it. there are 4 old TV´s which show some numbers... I think any KW-Cover had done it better. The real KRAFTWERK still rule. KARL! was soll das? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) =?windows-1252?Q?=A3XPO_jingle?= Date: 15 Jun 2000 12:00:30 +0100 Jan wrote: Time Magazine Europe (June, 12) marks the KW Expo jingle as a "lavish overspending". Well... if you don't ask, you don't get. Miles Davis used to demand $10,000 fee if a photographer wanted to do a portrait, so I guess they're in good company. http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) Videography Date: 19 Jun 2000 09:38:59 BST (Resend as 1st try bounced) "Dirk Boettcher" asked about other videos Missing Video Promos? Off the top of my head... Antenna Neonlights If you're including the Autobahn cartoon... The Making of Autobahn The Model (English version) The 'other' version of das Model (All 4 in a row, blue screen background) Other version of Tour De France (On bikes) There's a 1991 promo of Radioactivity and a 1977 version (though could this be just a TV program put together?) Showroom Dummies The Mix TV Ad (Well.. it's promoting the LP :o) The Model (Music Box compilation) Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraft Clues (was: Danish appearance) Date: 19 Jun 2000 09:18:01 -0700 Kaspar wrote: >Then sunday evening, whle I was zapping around, I >saw a host holding up the cover from Tour de France LP >. t was a kid's show who was having a sports special. >They was focusing on "Le Tour" and what could be more >suiting than TdF? Speaking of kids... Couple of weeks ago, I took my little one to see Blue's Clues at ASU's theatre, and at the middle of the gig they do some sort of dance number, which varied from techno to disco, etc. Well, when singing techno, the main actor with cool shades on, breakdance'd singing kids tunes with a heavy German accent. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: KW vs. Aphex T. Date: 19 Jun 2000 18:26:23 +0200 Henrik B skrev: > /.../ CD TELE:FUNKEN A COLLECTION OF..Kraftwerk vs Aphex T, cool electro 149- > > Has anybody got an idea of what this is?? Hot Stuff's way of describing records in a way that makes you, Werkerboy, buy them. That's Tele:Funken's (a.k.a. Tom Fenn) "A Collection of Ice Cream Vans, vol 2." (http://www.dominorecordco.com/news/newr.html) T:F makes ambient stuff outta samples of other people's music. -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: Re: (kw) KW vs. Aphex T. Date: 19 Jun 2000 16:50:12 +0200 > I just found this on www.hotstuff.se > > > 37915 CD TELE:FUNKEN > A COLLECTION OF..Kraftwerk vs Aphex T, > cool electro 149- > > Has anybody got an idea of what this is?? > I suppose this is about the band 'TELE:FUNKEN'. I don't know much about them but probably they sound like KW and Aphex Twin. Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tnoise Subject: (kw) MP3 Files Date: 19 Jun 2000 16:56:58 -0400 Where can I find MP3 Files of the 2 unrealeased sounds Kraftwerk performed in their last US tour? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tnoise Subject: (kw) MP3 Files Date: 19 Jun 2000 17:02:12 -0400 Where can I find MP3 files of the 2 unreleased songs Kraftwerk performed on their last US tour. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) Tone float Date: 19 Jun 2000 23:18:25 +0200 di.di@tiscalinet.it writes: =20 > =20 > >It was in mint condition.=20 >So? What is the definitely right price for an original copy in mint >condition of "Tone Float"? >And the first Kraftwerk album? =20 Sorry Didi, I can=B4t answer that. it=B4s also a question of. "How much is it worth to me..." =20 Years ago I paid more than 1000,- ATS for a (not mint)=20 7-inch of Kometenmelodie, which I=B4ve never seen before=20 and after. =20 Once again: > Let=B4s ask Guenther or IAC. =20 ---joseph =20 > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk: Danish appearance Date: 20 Jun 2000 00:47:28 +0200 dr_who_dk@yahoo.dk writes: > >Wow.. I'm amazed! This weekend has been in Kraftwerks >sign in Denmark: The same happend in Austria 2 weeks ago. =20 > >First saturday night: A radioshow with DJ's and such >things used a sample of Expo2000 in a mix. A Austrian Station broadcasted a coverversion of T. E. E. /Metal on Metal/Abzug over 35 minutes with long termed samples of EXPO2000. Absolutely fine! =20 After that - of course - some excerpts of the coconuts CD. More than one hour of Kraftwerk=B4s music! =20 Great! =20 regards ---joseph =20 > =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Videography Date: 19 Jun 2000 22:52:07 +0200 I'd like to know if "The Mix" video is worth its price. Does anyone know the track list? ciao, *luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) UK Coconut Release Date: 20 Jun 2000 10:57:49 BST According to the UK HMV webstite Senor Coconuts 'El Baile Alaman' CD / LP release is due out, in the UK, on 10 July 2000. (Kraftwerk Covers) Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) Thanks Date: 20 Jun 2000 08:30:01 -0700 (PDT) A big thank you to Mike Henderson, Farkas Zsolt and Josef Gabler for your CDR trades with me. I appreciate it, guys! Jason Nuckels :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Flatz/Bartos on 3sat Date: 20 Jun 2000 19:45:50 +0200 In today's "Kulturzeit" on 3sat TV a short report on the Flatz-/Bartos-project can be seen. Kulturzeit is repeated tonight 1.30 MESZ (VPS 00.01 - 210600) and tomorrow 9.05 MESZ (VPS 09.05 - 210600). see also www.3sat.de Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: R: (kw) Videography Date: 20 Jun 2000 11:26:08 -0700 >I'd like to know if "The Mix" video is worth its price. Does anyone know the >track list? "The Mix" VIDEO? Hmm, whatever it is, it's not an official product. Where is it available? ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk jan müller" Subject: (kw) MPEG Video from New York 1998 Date: 21 Jun 2000 11:24:22 CEST 1 or 2 Years ago, there was an MPEG Video of the New York Concert 1998 (or parts of it) downloadable on Kraftwerk Media Center. And Pete who made this page offered CD-R with the Video (among other CD-R with Videos and Live). Does anybody know where the KW-Media-Center is now? Are these CD-R still available from Pete? Or is there anyone on the list who has a copy for trading??? Thanks you robots Greetings DJM ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Videography: About that Mix 'video' Date: 21 Jun 2000 10:54:00 +0100 I ordered this a while ago from www.yalplay.com and subsequently got this reply: "Unfortunately the item detailed below is out of stock with our supplier. We have placed this order again and will keep you informed of the status of the order when we have more news. Sorry for any inconvenience caused." The company now trades under the name of Boxman and still lists this item: http://rpp.boxman.com/rpp/video/default.asp?shop=570&dept=1 I suspect this is/was some kind of bootleg video compilation -- I mean, who's "Pmi"? Sounds a bit like the sort of rhyming slang bootleggers indulge in. :-) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "machina" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk-Media-Center Date: 21 Jun 2000 14:16:38 +0200 you can find the center here: http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/kraftwerk-media-center/ Claudio Claudio Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de ex machina http://www.machina-online.de http://www.mp3.com/machina http://www.besonic.com/machina http://www.mp3.de/home/machina # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Videography Date: 21 Jun 2000 10:44:57 +0200 Dirk Boettcher wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a Videography of all Kraftwerk promo-videos > available on internet? There was a Kraftwerk promo videos article at Aktivitaet fanzine online http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/aktivitaet/, but much to my/our dismay this site doesn't work any longer ... or it does? Ian? Nonetheless try http://website.lineone.net/%7Emike.pitt/tdk.htm (KW video archive) and http://petenet.dragonfire.net/kw/video/index.html DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut TdF Date: 21 Jun 2000 12:11:01 +0200 Quoted from MNS Newsletter #24: Senor Coconut - Tour De France This is the taster single release for the upcoming 'EL BAILE ALEMAN' (A Latin Tribute to Kraftwerk) album by Lassigue Bendthaus/Atomheart-project SENOR COCONUT. The CD-single contains 4 tracks, a special Merengue Radio version of 'Tour de France', the regular album-version plus two NON-album-tracks: Expo 2000 (Mambo Original + Mambo Instrumental mix). CDS Senor Coconut - Tour De France Vinyl version contains 5 tracks including two 'Tour de France' re-mixes by DJ Good Groove, well known through his Pulse project on Harthouse, the two Expo 2000 mixes and the album-version of Tour de France. 12" End of quote. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) Re: Thanks Date: 21 Jun 2000 07:55:54 -0600 >A big thank you to Mike Henderson, Farkas Zsolt and Josef Gabler for >your CDR trades with me. I appreciate it, guys! > >Jason Nuckels :-) My pleasure, Jason! Here's some good-trader praise back at you... I'll second that nice comment about Farkas Zsolt (Farki) -- he's a patient and friendly guy. Actually this is the only mail list where I've yet to have a bad trade. Kudos to KW fans! Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) What Sonic Books had to say about THAT cd Date: 21 Jun 2000 17:59:36 +0100 "Legnano, June 13th, 2000. Dear Mr. E. Xxxxxxx, I'm responding to your strange letter of 20th May 2000 for the simply reason I'm the editor of SonicBook series. We made a book about Kraftwerk giving FREE a CD. If you like it or not is not our problem. If Music Non Stop presented it as an official Kraftwerk CD is not our problem (why didn't you returned the book to them?). We gave the CD free, we are publishers. So, what do you want from us? When you buy a piece of cheese and you don't like it what do you do, give it back to the shop? Ciao, Gigi Marinoni - C.P. 190 - 20025 Legnano - MI - Italy." What a bunch of cowboys, IMO. (Thanks to Edwin from the EMI Gastbuch forum for letting me quote the letter.) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) What Sonic Books had to say about THAT cd Date: 21 Jun 2000 18:52:15 +0100 Richard Marston wrote: > When you buy a piece of cheese and you don't like it what do you do, > give it back to the shop? Ciao, Gigi Marinoni - C.P. 190 - 20025 Legnano - > MI - Italy." :-D A straightforward answer, although the choice of the analogy "a piece of cheese" may be unfortunate. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) re: Kraftwerk in the charts Date: 21 Jun 2000 22:20:46 +0200 On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 23:41:50 +0300, Roger wrote: >The Model / Computer Love was #1 in England on the chart dated 6 February >1982. > Strange is only charted in 82.... Was is released as a single in the UK in 1978? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) What Sonic Books had to say about THAT cd Date: 21 Jun 2000 22:31:48 +0200 I think there reply is very rude . Because first, they wouldn't have sold the book alone without the CD . and according to what some people have told here, this book is a poor remake of Pascal Bussy's. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk-Media-Center Date: 21 Jun 2000 17:59:30 EDT In a message dated 6/21/00 8:18:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, chir3301@uni-trier.de writes: << you can find the center here: http://key.madison.tec.wi.us/kraftwerk-media-center/ Claudio Claudio Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de ex machina http://www.machina-online.de http://www.mp3.com/machina >> Thank you very much!!!!! :-))) I had lost that address and was wandering where I could find it but I didn't know how to ask which sight it was. Many thanx!!!!! ;-) B4N, Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Priscila Morsoletto Subject: (kw) Re: MPEG Video from New York 1998 Date: 22 Jun 2000 00:14:24 -0200 On 21 Jun 00 at 11:24, dirk jan m=FCller wrote: >Does anybody know where the KW-Media-Center is now? Are these CD-R still >available from Pete? >Or is there anyone on the list who has a copy for trading??? I've two CD-R's from the Media Center with clips (not the one with the New= York 1998) for trade or sell. Also I did make MPGs from their concert in R= io de Janeiro 1998 - it is NOT the full concert and include an interview with= Florian. Please contact me privately for details. Cheers, Priscila. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) MP3 Files Date: 20 Jun 2000 14:32:36 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:56 PM > Where can I find MP3 Files of the 2 unrealeased sounds Kraftwerk > performed in their last US tour? oh ! well ... did they really jus' played 2 unreleased "sounds" on their last us tour ??? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) okay , okay !!! jus' kiddin' , mate !!! *G+* ;-) mail me in private & i'll send u 1 or 2 linx where u can download these desired mp3 files !!! *sly_grin* ;-) however ... many *sunny* & *very_hot* greetinx from venlo in holland where i'm currently WERKin' !!! yours sincerely , micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: (kw) "The Mix" Video Date: 21 Jun 2000 09:02:45 +0200 I found this on boxman.com (previously IMVS.com) Name : Mix Artist : Kraftwerk Label : Pmi Catalogue Number : MVP9912943 Price : =A310.49 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats Kadmark Subject: (kw) New mp3s uploaded... Date: 21 Jun 2000 14:18:52 +0100 Hi,=20 =20 I just uploaded two mp3s to my KW-page, as=20 always in very good sound quality.=20 =20 It's more fun to compute=20 [ Live Tokyo - 1981 ] 7.5 Mb=20 =20 Les Mannequins=20 [ French version of=20 Showroom Dummies - 1977 ] 5.6 Mb=20 =20 By for now!=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 http://hem.fyristorg.com/kraftwerk=20 =20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Jun 2000 09:49:45 +0100 Strange is only charted in 82.... Was is released as a single in the UK in 1978? It was released for a 2nd time in England in 82 as the Flip side of if memory serves of home computer. DJs started to play the flip and it climbed up the charts. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk-Media-Center Date: 22 Jun 2000 09:54:04 BST Christian wrote, >Thank you very much!!!!! :-))) I had lost that address and was wandering >where I could find it but I didn't know how to ask which sight it was. If ever I forget a site I tend to go here first: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/links.html Hi Kevin *waves* Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Jun 2000 10:15:55 BST Paul Martland" wrote: >It was released for a 2nd time in England in 82 as the Flip side of if >memory serves of home computer. DJs started to play the flip and it climbed >up the charts. Other side of the Model was Computer Love. I think you'll find this was released in 1981 but topped the charts early in 1982. Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Das Model Date: 22 Jun 2000 06:41:25 -0400 Does anyone know where I can find / have available a .MP3 of Das Model? I have part of it here, but unfortunately the tape it was taped on ran out before the song did. Thank you in advance for your help! Huggy Bear visit my FTP site: ftp://24.7.251.51 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Tone Float Date: 22 Jun 2000 10:37:43 +0200 >What is the definitely right price for an original copy in mint >condition of "Tone Float"? Talking about "Tone Float" and to whom it may concern: I have a spare copie of this cassette to swap or sell. Mail me privately if interested. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) The Model Date: 22 Jun 2000 23:26:22 +0200 Paul Martland wrote: > > Strange is only charted in 82.... > > Was is released as a single in the UK in 1978? Not so strange, Kraftwerk toured the world in '81, the Computerworld Tour. Only then did Kraftwerk get some wider exposure and did the general public notice The Model is quite a neat song. Of course it was released on single in '78. I bought the single here back then ('78) in The Netherlands, in a nice Man Machine style cover (5C 006.85673) A: The Model B: The Man Machine In '78 The Robots/Spacelab was released in a plain cover. The best thing about singles I find that you can play them on 33 RPM, which is nice, and different. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk-Media-Center & a question about money orders!!! Date: 22 Jun 2000 19:27:44 EDT In a message dated 6/22/00 4:54:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jcsatujp@hotmail.com writes: << If ever I forget a site I tend to go here first: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/links.html Hi Kevin *waves* Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm >> Hey thanx much!!!!!!!!!!!! :-) I really appreciate it!!!!!!!! :-) Does any body in the US know how to get an international money order? I can't seem to find anywhere that does this!!!!! :-( I would like to get KW's live at the Tribal Gathering!!!!!!!! That's the only way that sister ray's does business!!!!!!!!!!!! :-( B4N, Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@average.nu (Roboten) Subject: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 22 Jun 2000 21:32:52 GMT I received a letter today from "Von Geyso & Dierkes Rechtsanw=E4lte" who tells me that my use of the domain "kraftwerk.org" infringes Kraftwerks rights in trademark, copyright of titles and their rights to the use of a name They want me to stop 1) to use the domain-name "kraftwerk.org", 2) to offer/let offer, copy/let copy and distribute/let distribute musical recordings in form of mp3 files from the "Kraftwerk repertoire",especially (Roboten - Expo 2014 remix, Erik Oehler - Computer Love; SYSTEM - The plan) without permission of Mr. Ralf H=FCtter and Florian Schneider-Esleben. and to pay the bill of charges: amount in dispute: 200.000,00 DM (Don't know if I have to pay those 97000 US $) 7,5/10 Gesch=E4ftsgeb=FChr =A7=A7 11, 118 I 1 BRAGO 2.073,80 DM 3/10 Erh=F6hungsgeb=FChr gem. =A7 6 BRAGO auf 7,5/10 622,20 DM Post - / Telekommunikationsentgelte =A7 26 BRAGO 40 DM 16,00 % Mehrwertsteuer =A7 25 II BRAGO 437,76 DM Tot 3.173,76 DM Which means about 1000 UK Pounds or 1500 US $ I used to love this group and have done so for over ten years.=20 Now I have to sell all their records to pay a bill for being a devoted fan. The songs available in MP3 is not even original Kraftwerk material, they're covers and I've mention that the original tracks is copyrighted.=20 PLEASE HELP ME IN THIS MATTER!!! If Ralf/Florian or near friends of Kraftwerk is reading this.,. PLEASE REPLY!. YOU'RE TAKING MY LIFE AWAY.=20 "We're functioning automatic and now we're suing fans and things we are the lawyers" /Roboten aka Martin Rundqvist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) Fw: Das Model Date: 22 Jun 2000 06:42:04 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 6:41 AM > Does anyone know where I can find / have available a .MP3 of Das Model? I > have part of it here, but unfortunately the tape it was taped on ran out > before the song did. > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > Huggy Bear > visit my FTP site: > ftp://24.7.251.51 > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour JGENTI Subject: (kw) Mini Calculateur? Date: 22 Jun 2000 09:41:39 +0200 Hi, Is there any place on the net to find the french version of Pocket Calculator? Would be great if someone who have it would put its mp3 online... :) For my part I only have a poor quality ra file I downloaded somewhere. This version isn't that interesting, with less lyrics, but it looks now like the rariest item to find! am I wrong? -- Timour JGENTI ______________________ GEOMATH tel: 01.47.08.80.86 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:30:23 +0200 Thank you for the info, Roboten! That induced me to ban that K-word from my homepage. Could become expensive otherwise. I'm wondering that the list-owner hasn't been sued yet. It's still the K********-email-list. Perhaps (s)he has to rename or even to erase it. R+F, was soll das??? a gradually former-fan Gunnar Roboten wrote: > > I received a letter today from "Von Geyso & Dierkes Rechtsanwälte" who > tells me that my use of the domain "kraftwerk.org" infringes > Kraftwerks rights in trademark, copyright of titles and their rights > to the use of a name # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) Thanks Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:39:55 +0200 JandSNuckels@webtv.net writes: > >A big thank you to Mike Henderson, Farkas Zsolt and Josef Gabler for >your CDR trades with me. I appreciate it, guys! > >Jason Nuckels :-) Hi Jason! Did you get it? Hope you enjoyed it... Regards ---joseph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:23:32 +0200 Well, grabbing a domain name simply is not done. Can't you imagine what Kraftwerk feels if you use kraftwerk.org AND use it the same way they do? You're trying to sit on their chair. I'm a bit surprised it's legal action right away. I would have expected a request first, then if you don't compy: legal action. Are you sure you never received any communication regarding this matter before? I'm not surprised a bit that they want the distribution of MP3's stopped. In fact, the trading of MP3's could be threatening this mailing list even= , if the list is seen as a platform for the exchange of such things... Regarding legal stuff, I'm utterly surprised that the bootlegs of Kraftwe= rk 1 and 2, Ralf&Florian and Tonefloat are still widely available in decent record stores, for a few years now. Even in Virgin Megastores, CDNOW and=20 the like! If it's about money then Kraftwerk could have easily stopped th= e distribution and release thise records themselves. Well, maybe the master= tapes are lost or degraded too much, they're about 30 years old now. I guess Sonic Books will receive a letter from Von Geyso & Dierkes Rechtsanw=E4lte too...=20 Rick Jansen > Roboten wrote: > > > > I received a letter today from "Von Geyso & Dierkes Rechtsanw=E4lte" = who > > tells me that my use of the domain "kraftwerk.org" infringes > > Kraftwerks rights in trademark, copyright of titles and their rights > > to the use of a name __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ S&H's a module and s&h's looking good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) About those bootlegged early albums Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:30:17 +0100 Does anybody know what the legal situation is regarding those pre-Autobahn albums? Why are record shops like Tower able to display/sell them when they are, in effect, counterfeits? Even amazon.com sells them. One of the people from NEU! (Dinger or Rother, I can't remember which) keeps sounding off about how their early 70s albums have been reissued without his permission and the fact that he doesn't get any royalties from their current sales; presumably it's exactly the same for R+F.=20 Rick Jansen wrote: "If it's about money then Kraftwerk could have easily stopped the distribution and release these records themselves. Well, maybe the master tapes are lost or degraded too much, they're about 30 years old now." =20 Well, I suspect they don't actually own the rights to the recordings of their first three albums, as (I read somewhere) they bought back the Autobahn album rights from Polygam sometime in the early 80s prior to it's reissue on EMI's Parlophone imprimatur =96 presumably the Universal Music Group, which possesses the Phillips back catalogue, still owns the 1, 2 and R+F album rights(?). Perhaps, like the large media corporations which now own back catalogues of Jazz record companies, they simply don't have anybody on board who understand its worth or are even aware of its existence.=20 Anyway I've read that Ralf & Flo regard those albums as 'archaeology', so presumably they'd be reluctant to release them even if they had the option.= h ttp://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 12:06:49 +0100 Roboten wrote: >=20 > I received a letter today from "Von Geyso & Dierkes Rechtsanw=E4lte" who > tells me that my use of the domain "kraftwerk.org" infringes > Kraftwerks rights in trademark, copyright of titles and their rights > to the use of a name The following URL may be of interest, or at least amusing: http://www.ssrn.com/update/lsn/cyberspace/lessons/tm01.html. ("But that is not to say that there is *nothing* that Kraft Corporation can do to restrict your use of this word. Velveeta may well be a protectable trademark - in fact, it is a protectable trademark - and as a result Kraft *can* stop you from using that word in certain ways (but not *all* ways) under trademark law.") > and to pay the bill of charges: >=20 > amount in dispute: 200.000,00 DM (Don't know if I have to pay those > 97000 US $) I get the impression that this sort of noise is made primarily as a basis for negotiation - solicitors and lawyers make out that they hold all the cards. Comply with their desist order and that will probably be the end of it, I think. > I used to love this group and have done so for over ten years. > Now I have to sell all their records to pay a bill for being a devoted > fan. I really don't think it will come to that - but if you're worried, some legal advisers offer a free initial consultation. > The songs available in MP3 is not even original Kraftwerk > material, they're covers and I've mention that the original tracks is > copyrighted.=20 Yes, they are - that's the problem. > PLEASE HELP ME IN THIS MATTER!!! > If Ralf/Florian or near friends of Kraftwerk is reading this.,. PLEASE > REPLY!. YOU'RE TAKING MY LIFE AWAY. Hmmm, a German pop band really shouldn't be your life, you know. Best of luck with getting this matter resolved, however. Kevin PS John Shilcock wrote: > Hi Kevin *waves* "Oo-ooo!" (waving back). :-D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) - PS Date: 23 Jun 2000 12:09:03 +0100 > Hmmm, a German pop band really shouldn't be your life Just to clarify, I wasn't picking on this nationality or, indeed, any particular musical genre...! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 13:49:32 +0200 Roboten wrote: > > Grabbing a domain name? > a Domain Name means nothing. It's a name of a computer on the > Internet. > A TradeMark is a TradeMark. a company name is a company name. > A domain name is a domain name. Yes, it DOES mean something, else people wouldn't fuss so much about them. Apparently Kraftwerk has the feeling people are using their name in connection with electronic music, and more specifically in connection with themselves. I can very well imagine they do not want that. > I received a KINDLY written letter from MCT Konzertagentur which I > responded to, but without any further response from them. Aha! What did you reply to them: a. Yes, of course I will hand over the domain name to KW, it's only a domain name. b. No, I want to keep the domain for my own use. If it was something b-ish I can imagine you get a letter from solicitors. Solicitors are not known for writing kind letters, it's their job you know. Some companies go pretty far in the protection of their names, or brands. I work for a publishing company these days, and we used the word "Luxaflex" in a web article. We got a letter that we were not to use the word "Luxaflex" if we meant "blinds", or else. You'd expect them to be happy that we use the word "Luxaflex" instead of "blinds", but no. Rick Jansen __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ C'est ci n'est pas un domain name # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tjodolf Ulriksen" Subject: RE: Re: (kw) HELP! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Anthony Rother Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:12:00 +0200 The new CD by Anthony Rother is called Simulationszeitalter. And according to a record-shop catalogue this album has a "robotic kraftwerkian Elektro" style. The disc includes 9 tracks. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Elektrisches Roulette Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:15:56 +0200 In yesterday's radio programme at M80 Radio (Spain), Julian Ruiz played Elektrisches Roulette by Ralf und Florian! Julian is a Spanish producer, musician and musical commentator, and large fan of David Bowie and Kraftwerk. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 15:29:50 +0200 Tjodolf Ulriksen wrote: >=20 > If it was a print fanzine, only a few fans would ever see this informat= ion (and AKTIVIT=C4T=20 > would never publish something like this) AKTIVIT=C4T did find Karl Bartos' private address and even rang the bell to talk to him. It's always difficult to keep one's interest within limits apparently. Rick Jansen __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ S&H's a module and s&h's looking good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 15:03:59 BST Rick Jansen wrote: >AKTIVITÄT did find Karl Bartos' private address and even rang the bell >to talk to him. It's always difficult to keep one's interest within >limits apparently. I believe a contributor found this info. I believe it was never printed in AKTIVITÄT. I don't believe activities like this would be sanctioned by IAC (AKTIVITÄT's creator) IMHO Keep Werking John Shilcock http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dawn/KeepWerk/index.htm ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) K(C) and a fun site banned Date: 23 Jun 2000 15:06:51 +0100 Tjodolf Ulriksen wrote: > some idiot can snap pictures of R+F's houses and publish them in colour, with > information on when the house is empty. I had to explain to the owner of that site why I had to turn down his request that I link to his site. I still don't think he has considered the issues. > Thing is, Kraftwerk are going to have to fight for it, and at least one fan > who doesn't have a clue how damaging his activities really are is going to > feel miffed. Net loss; one record sale, possibly more. Net gain; none to speak > of, but Kraftwerk can't risk losing control over their trademark. An awful > situation. I don't get the impression that the fan in this case is clueless, but as the take-up of Internet users increases the average IQ plummets, and I'm sure a lot of clueless people end up at an official-sounding URL thinking that the site is _of course_ official. I get enough confusion arising just from my own - obviously unofficial - music pages, with some really quite staggering assumptions being made by correspondents! (I received some fan mail from the USA last week, and I can't get them to admit they've got the wrong person!). So I suppose, yes, Kraftwerk may feel they have to throw their weight around. However, the other side of the coin is that they must provide, or allow their agents to provide, official statements and information on the Web. You can't claim all the prizes if you won't play the game - for example, would it really hurt Kraftwerk's image to have a statement to the effect that they _are_ or _are not_ interested in offers from concert promoters, who at the moment end up emailing me and other fans out of desperation? Well, no big deal. But the results of the present approach are, IMAO, not always mysterious, or elusive, but inept PR. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:56:34 +0100 Date: 23 Jun 2000 08:56:48 -0600 I read this in Kevin Busby's message: "> some idiot can snap pictures of R+F's houses and publish them in colour, with > information on when the house is empty. I had to explain to the owner of that site why I had to turn down his request that I link to his site. I still don't think he has considered the issues." Kevin, btw I remember noticing one of their addresses in another link there. http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: (kw) Set Breakdown Date: 23 Jun 2000 16:45:36 GMT Hey Guys, I recently heard an mp3 of the set-breakdown at the Kraftwerk concert in 1991 (I think). When "Numbers" ends and Computer World begins, the drums/bassline/chords all stop except for the lead synth. Then either Florian or Ralf say something on the microphone and the audience giggles and then he continues to make comments while they're trying to figure out the problem. The audience giggles at his comments repeatedly. The problem: He's speaking German. Can anyone translate that for me? I'd really appreciate it. Zamir ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo Ponz" Subject: (kw) Aviador Dro vs Kraftwerk Date: 23 Jun 2000 13:08:12 +0200 > Hi Eduardo, i know Aviador Dro (y tambien a sus obreros especializados : ). > Pero creo que en esta lista solo los conocemos los hispano-hablantes. > > Un saludo. > > Jzurdo. I hope there are some non-spanish folks out there that like them... > Of course we do ;-) > That's a good chance to plug my page about them! > > > Pagina no Oficial del Aviador Dro: > Unofficial Aviador Dro Home Page: > http://personal5.iddeo.es/ret007en/aviador/ > http://fly.to/aviador > jgc@retemail.es Thanks for that, nice page! Voy a necesitar muchas horas para empollarme todo eso! By the way, there is a version of Kraftwerk "Das Modell" played live by Aviador Dro in spanish. I give you the label info if you are interested. It's a techno version, not a rock one like Rammstein's (wich I like very much). The voice sounds too human to me (I love vocoders), but anyway it's a nice version and the whole single is very interesting. Aviador Dro "Nestor el Cyborg" single (CD) 1. Nestor el Cyborg 2. La modelo <== kw's modell 3. 22 senderos 4. Base lunar alfa Discos Lollipop, LOL MX 087 See ya! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTIANCLAYCMB@aol.com Subject: (kw) Sounds like KW voices to me!!!!!! Date: 23 Jun 2000 20:39:18 EDT I found this text reader that kind of sounds like the KW voices from thier live stuff. Here's the add, if you want to check it out....it's free too in different languages!!!!!!!!! ;-) It was inspired by the speak and spell!!!!!! It's called "Say It".....however it doesn't really sound like Speak & spell!!!! :-( http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/audio/sayit.htm I hope you enjoy it as much as I have!!!!!! :-) B4N, Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@average.nu (Roboten) Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) - PS Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:26:49 GMT Well, in this case, it wasn't that someone would take Kraftwerk from me, it was about Kraftwerk taking my money for being a devoted fan.. Money I don't own. I don't make money on my page for example. On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:09:03 +0100, you wrote: > >> Hmmm, a German pop band really shouldn't be your life > >Just to clarify, I wasn't picking on this nationality or, indeed, any >particular musical genre...! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@average.nu (Roboten) Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:20:22 GMT Grabbing a domain name? a Domain Name means nothing. It's a name of a computer on the Internet.=20 A TradeMark is a TradeMark. a company name is a company name. A domain name is a domain name. I would never distribute anything with KRAFTWERK's name without disclaimer (as the one I had on my page, like=20 Copyright owned by respective artists. Original songs (C) Kraftwerk (tm) except "SYSTEM - The plan" by Peder Livijn. All rights reserved. ) All MP3's on this page is COVER VERSIONS, done by me and other members of this list. I think you and the rest of those lawyers havn't even listened or thinked a second thought. Everyone in the world isn't your enemy who wants your money. I received a KINDLY written letter from MCT Konzertagentur which I responded to, but without any further response from them. I will await von Geyso & Dierkes actions before saying anymore now. /Martin aka Roboten On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:23:32 +0200, you wrote: > > >Well, grabbing a domain name simply is not done. Can't you imagine >what Kraftwerk feels if you use kraftwerk.org AND use it the same >way they do? You're trying to sit on their chair. > >I'm a bit surprised it's legal action right away. I would have expected >a request first, then if you don't compy: legal action. Are you sure you >never received any communication regarding this matter before? > >I'm not surprised a bit that they want the distribution of MP3's = stopped. >In fact, the trading of MP3's could be threatening this mailing list = even, >if the list is seen as a platform for the exchange of such things... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@average.nu (Roboten) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 23 Jun 2000 09:01:36 GMT G'day Werkers! Well, today I've had a phone conversation with Ms Hundt Neumann at Von Geyso & Dierkes. It seems that they are a some confused guys and girls that believes that their german laws is covering me, a citizen of sweden that have registered an domain name in the USA. A domain name is just a name translation of a numeric IP Network address. The problem (according to Ms Neumann) is that I'm publishing the page to Germans. Because the page is on the Internet, I'm a publisher in Germany. This seems so stupid, I could have banned .de visitors if that would be the case. After a little talk, She agreed to speak with her client (Yep. The guys) and I sent her a letter I've received earlier from Scumeck Sabottka from MCT Konzertagentur and my reply letter that told a different story. Well well. The time will tell if I will be a poor or happy Kraftwerk-fan. If you're a reporter or want more information, don't hesitate to mail me! /Martin aka Roboten http://average.nu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LCAPUTO@HKLAW.COM Subject: RE: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:37:10 -0400 Don't worry, it's just a scare tactic. I work for lawyers, believe me. They come on as strong as possible, much stronger than they need to be. Just cease and desist and you'll never hear from them again. You don't = need to pay for anything. That was pretty ballsy of you to use "kraftwerk" as your domain name. = Just change things around. You can still have a website that pays homage to them. Lisa -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:33 PM They want me to stop 1) to use the domain-name "kraftwerk.org", 2) to offer/let offer, copy/let copy and distribute/let distribute musical recordings in form of mp3 files from the "Kraftwerk repertoire",especially (Roboten - Expo 2014 remix, Erik Oehler - Computer Love; SYSTEM - The plan) without permission of Mr. Ralf H=FCtter and Florian Schneider-Esleben. and to pay the bill of charges: amount in dispute: 200.000,00 DM (Don't know if I have to pay those 97000 US $) 7,5/10 Gesch=E4ftsgeb=FChr =A7=A7 11, 118 I 1 BRAGO 2.073,80 DM 3/10 Erh=F6hungsgeb=FChr gem. =A7 6 BRAGO auf 7,5/10 622,20 DM Post - / Telekommunikationsentgelte =A7 26 BRAGO 40 DM 16,00 % Mehrwertsteuer =A7 25 II BRAGO 437,76 DM Tot 3.173,76 DM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: Re: (kw) Set Breakdown Date: 24 Jun 2000 10:27:20 +0200 Hi Romulus! The KlingKlang-Crash you mean happend at the Düsseldorf-gig 1991.10.31 (I've been there, yeah ;-) It's Ralf who is speaking: "Wir bitten um wenige Minuten Geduld. Der Computer hat im Moment seinen Geist aufgegeben" "We are asking for some minutes of patience. The Computer has given up its spirit for the moment (means like "the computer has died")" -giggle- "Kein Grund zur Aufregung... Wir sind ja da" "No reason for being upset... we are here" -stronger giggle- -after some restart-tries- "Es wird eine kurze Pause geben. Wir müssen es neu programmieren und dann geht's weiter." "There will be a short intermission. We have to reprogramm and then it will go on." -curtain closed, light on ---- light off, curtain opened- "Die Wunder der Technik" "The miracles of technology" -laughter, the show continues- Romulus Giovanni wrote: > > Hey Guys, > I recently heard an mp3 of the set-breakdown at the Kraftwerk concert in > 1991 (I think). When "Numbers" ends and Computer World begins, the > drums/bassline/chords all stop except for the lead synth. Then either > Florian or Ralf say something on the microphone and the audience giggles and > then he continues to make comments while they're trying to figure out the > problem. The audience giggles at his comments repeatedly. The problem: He's > speaking German. Can anyone translate that for me? I'd really appreciate it. > > Zamir > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Wunderkind Date: 24 Jun 2000 13:21:39 +0200 Just listening to the Flatz/Bartos single "Wunderkind", which is out now with a radio edit and four more or less unimaginative mixes, and I'm a little bit at a loss with this stuff ... I have a feeling that Bartos wants to sound like Recoil, but there's not enough substance for that. Each of the five "Wunderkind" mixes always sounds like Elektric Music 1993, even the used preset sounds seems to be still the same. Besides of this there's a melodic phrase flowing in which reminds me strongly of "Rhythm Of The Rain", a catchy little pop song from early sixties by The Cascades. Most art performances by Wolfgang Flatz I know commands my respect. But his lyrics and singing ... Both is in plain terms suggestive of the style of Joachim Witt, but it's pale and colorless. It wants to be threatening, but what's coming along is ... yes: plain cooking. If this stuff is representative for the forthcoming Flatz/Bartos album ... snooze. Other opinions? Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "xelius" Subject: (kw) Sounds like KW voices to me!!!! Date: 24 Jun 2000 14:57:41 +0200 Hi Christian, I'ts two years I downloaded it and use it frequently in my studio. YES! it's one of the best KwK style speech synth. On the last long discussion about speech synthesis I didn't mentioned it because I thought : it is well known.( as TALK IT e.g.) It has a strange phonetical standard , a bit english , a bit latin, but not so german. Can U test what a kind of letters U have to write to obtain a good german speech of : generator /energie/geiger / Duesseldorf /Huetter....etc (e.g.)?? It has also a slow transition between noisy consonants and vocals ,so U have to work stretching and cutting to give the right 'groove' to the words. IN the incoming single of Mephisto dJ :SO STRONG I worked in the electro mix B side with SAY IT speech synthesis and other xelius gears.(someone in europe remind Mephisto for PEOPLE,MYSTERY,VOICES,U GOT ME BURNIN' UP singles last years) The record is released at now only in Italy. >I found this text reader that kind of sounds like the KW voices from thier >live stuff. Here's the add, if you want to check it out....it's free too in >different languages!!!!!!!!! ;-) >It was inspired by the speak and spell!!!!!! It's called "Say It".....however >it doesn't really sound like Speak & spell!!!! :-( > >http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/audio/sayit.htm >I hope you enjoy it as much as I have!!!!!! :-) >B4N, >Christian ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Romulus Giovanni" Subject: Re: (kw) Set Breakdown Date: 24 Jun 2000 18:28:11 GMT You're awesome! Thanks!! Zamir >From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) >To: Romulus Giovanni >CC: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (kw) Set Breakdown >Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:27:20 +0200 > >Hi Romulus! > >The KlingKlang-Crash you mean happend at the Düsseldorf-gig 1991.10.31 >(I've been there, yeah ;-) > >It's Ralf who is speaking: > >"Wir bitten um wenige Minuten Geduld. Der Computer hat im Moment seinen >Geist aufgegeben" > >"We are asking for some minutes of patience. The Computer has given up >its spirit for the moment (means like "the computer has died")" > >-giggle- > >"Kein Grund zur Aufregung... Wir sind ja da" > >"No reason for being upset... we are here" > >-stronger giggle- > >-after some restart-tries- > >"Es wird eine kurze Pause geben. Wir müssen es neu programmieren und >dann geht's weiter." > >"There will be a short intermission. We have to reprogramm and then it >will go on." > >-curtain closed, light on ---- light off, curtain opened- > >"Die Wunder der Technik" > >"The miracles of technology" > >-laughter, the show continues- > >Romulus Giovanni wrote: > > > > Hey Guys, > > I recently heard an mp3 of the set-breakdown at the Kraftwerk >concert in > > 1991 (I think). When "Numbers" ends and Computer World begins, the > > drums/bassline/chords all stop except for the lead synth. Then either > > Florian or Ralf say something on the microphone and the audience giggles >and > > then he continues to make comments while they're trying to figure out >the > > problem. The audience giggles at his comments repeatedly. The problem: >He's > > speaking German. Can anyone translate that for me? I'd really appreciate >it. > > > > Zamir > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: (kw) All danish KW'ers Date: 24 Jun 2000 20:32:56 +0200 (CEST) I can inform you that danish P3 has a program called "Det Store Mix" and between 21 & 22 AM CET they will feature the producer behind Señor Coconuts (kraftwerkk) LP. Might be worth catching. ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Wunderkind - my two cents Date: 24 Jun 2000 14:40:26 EDT > Other opinions? Yes.=20 I really like the song, especially the music, which can=B4t be compared to=20 Recoil, no way! It=B4s a nice POP song, and if the whole album sounds that w= ay,=20 it=B4ll be my next record.=20 You=B4re right: Flatz sounds a bit like Witt, but not that Rammstein-like as= in=20 Witt=B4s "Die Flut". And not all mixes on the Maxi-CD are by Bartos. Except for the "Karl Bartos=20 radio edit" (1) and "Karl Bartos long version" (5) they don=B4t sound like=20 Elektric Music, but are o.k. - except for that crappy "synthi pop excursion=20 mix" by thomas p. heckmann (??). MfG Carsten Bolte. Kiel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 25 Jun 2000 00:36:51 +0000 > a Domain Name means nothing. It's a name of a computer on the Internet. > A TradeMark is a TradeMark. a company name is a company name. > A domain name is a domain name. And a domain name that is used in the same context as a trademark is a possible trademark infringement. > I would never distribute anything with KRAFTWERK's name without > disclaimer (as the one I had on my page, like > Copyright owned by respective artists. Original songs (C) Kraftwerk > (tm) except "SYSTEM - The plan" by Peder Livijn. All rights reserved. A disclaimer that the copyright/trademark belongs to somebody else doesn't make a copyright/trademark infringement legal. > All MP3's on this page is COVER VERSIONS, done by me and other members > of this list. Did you pay the usual fees to the GEMA (or their Swedish partners) for publishing these cover versions? > me, it was about Kraftwerk taking my money for being a devoted fan.. It isn't Kraftwerk taking your money for being a fan, it's their laywers requesting the usual fees for their service according to BRAGO. BTW: Why do you write that they've sued you? If your description of their letter is complete, then they've simply asked you to stop a trademark infringement and to cover the lawyer fees, nothing more. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) Date: 24 Jun 2000 19:29:08 +0200 >Well, grabbing a domain name simply is not done. Can't you imagine >what Kraftwerk feels if you use kraftwerk.org AND use it the same >way they do? You're trying to sit on their chair. As far as I know anyone can buy and use a domain name that is not owned = by someone else already. For example, if microsoft.net is not owned by = anybody, I can buy it and use it for my own pages, or sell it to Bill = Gates. Now that many new domain extensions are being established (such = as .cc or .as or. nu) that will mean that Kraftwerk will have to buy any = and all domain extensions related to them, before someone else does. There are websites called jarre.net and jmjarre.com and jmjarre.dk etc = which nobody can do anything about because it is legal to buy and use = them even if you are not Sony Music or Jarre himself. all the best, Glenn JMJ Fanclub Norway www.jmjfkn.com www.itsahit.com/jarreart www.folkvord.net/jarrestuff=20 www.folkvord.net/electronicshadows # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 25 Jun 2000 00:57:24 +0200 Roboten wrote: > Well, today I've had a phone conversation with Ms Hundt Neumann at Von > Geyso & Dierkes... >... > After a little talk, She agreed to speak with her client (Yep. The > guys) and I sent her a letter I've received earlier from Scumeck > Sabottka from MCT Konzertagentur and my reply letter that told a > different story. > > Well well. The time will tell if I will be a poor or happy > Kraftwerk-fan. > If you're a reporter or want more information, don't hesitate to mail > me! Just out of curiosity: did you offer to give up "kraftwerk.org"? So far it seems to me you're struggling to KEEP the domain. I do not think there is any protection for you in being a Swedish citizen, and Kraftwerk being in Germany. Personally I think you should never have claimed the domain in the first place, and it'd be best to give it up ASAP. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 25 Jun 2000 01:33:34 +0200 > I do not think there is any protection for you in being a Swedish > citizen, and Kraftwerk being in Germany. Personally I think you=20 > should never have claimed the domain in the first place, and it'd > be best to give it up ASAP. Come on! It seems that Kraftwerk themselves were not that brigth to = claim the name themselves - Just think about that. The people that we think are = the forerunners in technology - forgets to claim all the Kraftwerk domains on the = internet - they didn't see it comming! Anyway, there have recently been a case in the US, where a guy had to = give up the name www.juliaroberts.com to Julia Roberts, without getting millions for = it. But honestly I don't think that the word Kraftwerk is protected as a = persons name. try www.kraftwerk.no they should be getting a letter from the laywers as = well - not. And no I don't think German law applies in Sweden! but of course, Sweden = may have similar copyright laws to Germany. Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 25 Jun 2000 15:01:37 +0200 >Come on! It seems that Kraftwerk themselves were not that brigth to = claim the >name themselves - Just think about that. The people that we think are = the forerunners >in technology - forgets to claim all the Kraftwerk domains on the = internet - they didn't see >it comming! Yes, and now they have to buy any and all domain names, to avoid similar = cases. That will be hundreds of kraftwerk domains thet have to buy! >Anyway, there have recently been a case in the US, where a guy had to = give up the >name www.juliaroberts.com to Julia Roberts, without getting millions = for it. Julia Roberts the moviestar, or Julia Roberts the cleaning lady at = McDonalds? Its really stupid that one person (the moviestar) can claim = ownership to a name when probably hundreds of other women are named = Julia Roberts. If my girlfriend's name was Julia Roberts, should she be = denied to have her own domain name? >But honestly I don't think that the word Kraftwerk is protected as a = persons name. >try www.kraftwerk.no they should be getting a letter from the laywers = as well - not. I dont think a persons name is protected. Its the trademark / company = name that is protected. Julia Roberts probably got away with it since = her name is much like a company name for her. But Kraftwerk is not a = person's name, so what remains to be seen is if the word 'kraftwerk' can = be justified as their registered trademark. Glenn www.folkvord.net/jarrestuff=20 www.folkvord.net/electronicshadows # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 25 Jun 2000 21:58:14 +0200 >> Anyway, there have recently been a case in the US, where a guy had to give up >> the >> name www.juliaroberts.com to Julia Roberts, without getting millions for it. > > Julia Roberts the moviestar, or Julia Roberts the cleaning lady at McDonalds? Both could claim it, as long as you name is Julia Roberts. The Net doesn't discriminate like that... > Its really stupid that one person (the moviestar) can claim ownership to a > name when probably hundreds of other women are named Julia Roberts. If my > girlfriend's name was Julia Roberts, should she be denied to have her own > domain name? No. But it will be impossible (in some countries) to sell it for loadsamoney >> But honestly I don't think that the word Kraftwerk is protected as a persons >> name. >> try www.kraftwerk.no they should be getting a letter from the laywers as well >> - not. > > I dont think a persons name is protected. Its the trademark / company name > that is protected. Julia Roberts probably got away with it since her name is > much like a company name for her. But Kraftwerk is not a person's name, so > what remains to be seen is if the word 'kraftwerk' can be justified as their > registered trademark. Trademark or not is not the case. Again, to avoid people buying names and selling them for huge sums, there are some laws to own a name not rightfully. I own a company called Puntgaaf. I registered www.puntgaafcom and later found a (Dutch) webcompany owns www.puntgaaf.nl. They offer webspace and webdesign. If I wanted to, I could reclaim www.puntgaaf.nl. It is not "just a name" pointing to an IP-adress, it is (hot) property now-a-days. The guy who owns kraftwerk.org had a nice website with "only kraftwerk cover"-mp3's, but he could make it a nasty site, publish the complete catalogue in MP3, make fun of Ralf (who wouldn't?). Kraftwerk is ownd by Kraftwerk(r). Petium by Intel, Microsoft by Billy. Life with it, don't try to be smart or funny, the lawyers gonna get you anyhoe. Be creative, open musicnonstop.web, powerstation.org, electriccafe.net. But don't use other peoples names. sorry for being a old fart, Jeroen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 25 Jun 2000 22:02:21 +0200 > Julia Roberts the moviestar, or Julia Roberts the cleaning lady at = McDonalds? Its really stupid that one person >(the moviestar) can claim = ownership to a name when probably hundreds of other women are named = Julia >Roberts. If my girlfriend's name was Julia Roberts, should she be = denied to have her own domain name? I was thinking the same - but apparently, if you're Scottish, and your = family name is McDonalds, and have been for 1600 years - that don't give you the right to open a = shop with the name McDonalds Sandwich bar! Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) TDF 10" Date: 26 Jun 2000 09:35:13 +1000 Hi, i know some of you have the TDF 10", can anybody post an mp3 of it please? I'd love to hear it. Thanks Vladimir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cancerperson" Subject: Re: (kw) Set Breakdown Date: 24 Jun 2000 21:42:36 -0500 So where can I find said mp3? My collection of live kw is limited to the 81 belgium show and the warfield soundboard. cp -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d- s: a-- C+++ UL P+ L++ E---- W+ N++ o- K w M- V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5- X++ R+ tv b+++ DI++ D++ G e>++ h! r-->++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.omn.net/~kpbloke ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 1:28 PM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@average.nu (Roboten) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me! (Follow Up!) Date: 25 Jun 2000 09:07:39 GMT I have responded to a letter I've received from KW's manager and I've told them that I'm willing to give up kraftwerk.org but not for free. With that, I didn't want them to pay me 200.000 DM for the domain name, but I wanted them to make an offer that would be fair for a name that I own and had get, following all laws I know of. The original letter from KW's manager didn't include a single line about I've done something Illegal, just that they had done a mistake. =46or me, it's still MY domain, I haven't done anything that would break any laws in Sweden or USA, even if i'd register abba.org or jolt.com (check that domain out. Jolt themselves have to use joltcola.com) Now I've put up all letters I've received at http://www.abc.se/~m9736/kw mct-konzertagentur-mail.jpg is the original KINDLY Written letter i've received from Mr Scumeck Sabottka at MCT. kw1.jpg, kw2.jpg, kw3.jpg and kw4.jpg is all 4 pages I've received from Ms Hundt Neumann at von Geyso & Dierkes. There was no registration certificate enclosed as told on page 1 by the way. You may NOT publish these letters in it's full form or spread the pictures on your websites or anything. It's just there for viewing. OK!? On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:57:24 +0200, you wrote: >Just out of curiosity: did you offer to give up "kraftwerk.org"? >So far it seems to me you're struggling to KEEP the domain. >I do not think there is any protection for you in being a Swedish >citizen, and Kraftwerk being in Germany. Personally I think you=20 >should never have claimed the domain in the first place, and it'd >be best to give it up ASAP. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quamar Zahra" Subject: (kw) some questions Date: 25 Jun 2000 07:55:30 PDT I just ogt some questions 1)does anyone have Francois K. 'Essential Mix' w/ Homecomputer? Is it any good? Are there any mp3s floating around of it? 2) (not a question) PMI isn't a bootleg- It is Picture Music International- a subsidiary of EMI---I think. 3) What happened to the video disc R+F have been talking about for about 20 some odd years? 4)Did R+F do any drugs back in the day? You think they still might? (Jst curious if they'e down with the green thing) 5) Can somebody put up mp3s of Virtu ex Machina? I'll trade the Warfield show and a bunch of other mp3s for it? And a '90-'91 live version of Computerlove 6) What's on these bootlegs- (tracklisting and show dates, please) These are being offered at the website isotank.com DYNAMO DEUTSCHLAND LAUSCHANGRIFF LAUSCHANGRIGG N1 TO ZURICH ROBTRONIK UBERMENSCH WERKING HOLIDAY VOR UNS METROPOLIS ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 26 Jun 2000 00:00:15 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 10:02 PM >> Julia Roberts the moviestar, or Julia Roberts the cleaning lady at McDonalds? Its really stupid that one person >(the moviestar) can claim ownership to a name when probably hundreds of other women are named Julia >Roberts. If my girlfriend's name was Julia Roberts, should she be denied to have her own domain name? << > I was thinking the same - but apparently, if you're Scottish, and your family name is McDonalds, and have been for 1600 years - that don't give you the right to open a shop with the name McDonalds Sandwich bar! < damn right !!! imho it's way 2 pretentious & impudent 2 set up a domain-name like www.kraftwerk.org if u actually don't have ANYTHIN' 2 do with KRAFTWERK itself then !!! i can understand the legal actions that were caused against the "user" of this domain !!! he must be a really stupid guy if he thought that it was legal 2 "use" a domain-name like this !!! 2 be a fan of kw has ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN' 2 do with such a thing like he does when he sets up this domain-name !!! all he wants is 2 take benefit of the name KRAFTWERK itself then & that's really despicable !!! i suppose that he would have even lesser than 25% of "hits" on his site if it wasn't set up with a really " big name " like KRAFTWERK 4 instance !!! that's what annoys me the most & that's why i suggest that he shuts down his site asap 2 prevent any further actions of kw solicitors !!! however ... peace 2 all "real" kw fans & supporters !!! many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.org & other "related" websites !!! *LOL* ;-))) Date: 26 Jun 2000 05:14:33 +0200 hi y'all ! have u tried the followin' addresses by now ??? www.kraftwerk.at ( " kraftwerk gmbh & co kg " from austria !!! ;-) www.kraftwerk.co.at ( " kraftWerk - agentur für neue kommunikation " also from austria !!! ;-) www.kraftwerk.ch ( " professional tools !!! " *LOL* ;-))) from switzerland !!! ;-) - very interestin' indeed , because these r websites in german language !!! ;-) - btw : i bet they've already made an "agreement" with kw & their solicitors !!! ;-) www.kraftwerk.no ( " kraftwerk productions " from norway !!! currently " under construction " !!! ;-) - btw : most interestin' : the whole address , phone & fax numbers of the webmaster ( ??? ) is displayed on the site !!! ;-) www.kraftwerk.cc ( country unknown !!! also currently " under construction " !!! ;-) www.kraftwerk.ws ( " the domain ... is currently available 2 be registered !!! " it says on the website !!! ;-) www.kraftwerk.nu ( " this domain-name ... is available 4 registration !!! " it says on the website !!! ;-) www.kraftwerk.net ( check out who has registered this domain under http://www.register.com/whois-results.cgi?domain=kraftwerk.net&SRC= !!! ;-) ... & last but not least : the highly mysterious & most infamous website www.kraftwerk.org !!! ;-) ( check out who has registered this domain under http://www.register.com/whois-results.cgi?domain=kraftwerk.org&SRC= !!! ;-) - btw : i bet ( once again ;-) u all know this malignant "character" who claims 2 "own" this domain-name by now !!! *grim* :-/ - if u wanna know who has registered a domain-name or if a specific domain-name is still available , simply go 2 www.register.com !!! however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 26 Jun 2000 00:21:27 +0200 >Trademark or not is not the case. Again, to avoid people buying names = and >selling them for huge sums, there are some laws to own a name not >rightfully. With com, net and org domains the law is clear; anybody can buy any name = that is not already bought. Even with names. If I want to, I can buy the = domain www.ralf-hutter.com because it is not only Ralf Hutter that has = this name, maybe many other people too. Plus, you cannot make patent on = a name. A name is free.=20 >I own a company called Puntgaaf. I registered www.puntgaafcom and later >found a (Dutch) webcompany owns www.puntgaaf.nl. They offer webspace = and >webdesign. If I wanted to, I could reclaim www.puntgaaf.nl. It is not = "just >a name" pointing to an IP-adress, it is (hot) property now-a-days. For local domains (like .nl or .no for Norway) there often are local = laws. In Norway, you must own a company called Powerstation to get the = domain powerstation.no but in Denmark, anybody can get any domain name = ending on .dk even if they dont own a company. With company names that are trademarks, its a different thing. If = Kraftwerk has successfully registered their name as a trademark, then = they might get away with sueing fans that use the word in domain names. = But, "kraftwerk" is just a German word for power station / power plant. = Nobody can own words. It depends on wether the word "kraftwerk" is = associated enough with the band and if they registered it as a = trademark. >The guy who owns kraftwerk.org had a nice website with "only kraftwerk >cover"-mp3's, but he could make it a nasty site, publish the complete >catalogue in MP3, make fun of Ralf (who wouldn't?).=20 Publishing MP3s without paying for them is illegal wether or not you = have kraftwerk.org or just www.mumbojumbo.com And making fun of other = people is not illegal either. Its called "parody" which is allowed under = most "fair use" policies. >Kraftwerk is ownd by >Kraftwerk(r). Petium by Intel, Microsoft by Billy. Life with it, don't = try >to be smart or funny, the lawyers gonna get you anyhoe. Read my above explanation again. Pentium is a word invented by Intel, so = they can own it. Kraftwerk is just a normal word from any dictionary. If = I name my band "Ice cream" does that mean nobody else can register = ice-cream.com ? Not so. But if I make a name like "Arcadion" and = register it as the trademark for my company, I can sue other people = because its my invention. glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 26 Jun 2000 00:23:45 +0200 >I was thinking the same - but apparently, if you're Scottish, and your = family name is McDonalds, >and have been for 1600 years - that don't give you the right to open a = shop with the name >McDonalds Sandwich bar! >Lars Has there been a court decision on that? Or is it just the big and = mighty McDonalds corporation that threatens people if they try it? glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me! (Follow Up!) Date: 25 Jun 2000 23:21:52 PDT Hello I just read all the legal papers you published on http://www.abc.se/~m9736/kw, and one funny thing that strikes me is that R&F obviously own the rights to MY original song (SYSTEM - The Plan)featured on the site K*******K.ORG. I wonder how that can be, i havn´t been contacted with any offers to buy it - STRANGE ;-) Peder Livijn ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Svenungsson Subject: (kw) computer crash =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=FCsseldorf-gig?= 1991.10.31 Date: 26 Jun 2000 02:46:33 -0400 Anybody knows where this computer crash mp3 is available for download??? jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) some questions Date: 26 Jun 2000 10:32:02 +0100 [Quamar Zahra wrote] Did R+F do any drugs back in the day? You think they still might? (Just curious if they're down with the green thing) I read somewhere they dropped tabs of LSD before some event or other -- I can't remember whther it was Kubrick's film 2001 or a Stockhausen performance, other list members may know more. http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Set Breakdown Date: 26 Jun 2000 11:11:05 +0100 Wess wrote: > "We are asking for some minutes of patience. The Computer has given up > its spirit for the moment (means like "the computer has died")" It's the same in English: "the computer has given up the ghost". > -giggle- "Ghost in the machine" puns at your discretion! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me! (Follow Up!) Date: 26 Jun 2000 11:11:05 +0100 Roboten wrote: > The original letter from KW's manager didn't include a single line > about I've done something Illegal, just that they had done a mistake. Thanks for the info and letters (probably a breach of copyright, but...!). I'm sure that all those other "www.kraftwerk." domains - Kraftwerk dogs, Kraftwerk churches, Kraftwerk tools and other oddities on the web - are on much stronger ground. But when a "kraftwerk" domain presents MP3s and other material relating to Kraftwerk, it becomes a "branding" issue or the band and their lawyers. If you want to keep the .org domain, remove the band material and fill the site with pictures of power plants. ;-) I sympathise with you but I can't say for sure I wouldn't have behaved in exactly the same way as Kraftwerk have. Whether, as a commercial entity, they have any more moral claim to a ".org" (rather than ".com") domain is another story, perhaps! Here comes another "robot"... the new ROBOT voice wrote: > imho it's way 2 pretentious Hang on, "way 2 pretentious" !!! :-) is an interesting phrase !!! :-), Mr new ROBOT voice !!! :-) alias MC Kraftmaster Krafty Kraft !!! :-) !!! :-) (just teasing - but I do wish you'd get rid of that "!!! :-)" key, it confuses me!). > he must be a really stupid guy if he thought that it was legal 2 "use" a > domain-name like this !!! A bit harsh, and the legalities are far from clear, as many site owners (not just Kraftwerk fans) have found. Glenn Folkvord wrote: > With company names that are trademarks, its a different thing. If Kraftwerk > has successfully registered their name as a trademark, then they might get > away with sueing fans that use the word in domain names. But, "kraftwerk" is > just a German word for power station / power plant. Nobody can own words. Did you not read the URL I posted about this? It was a US site, but the principles seem to be supported internationally. Best Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: (kw) www.klingklang.com / www.klingklang.de Date: 26 Jun 2000 12:55:10 +0200 www.klingklang.com and www.klingklang.de redirect to a shop, asking for a password. I guess we can expect something happening there one of these days. If I remember correctly, www.klingklang.com or .de ended up at a Galerie Klingklang before... The domain is registered to Kraftwerk, according to the whois info. Rick Jansen __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ S&H's a module and s&h's looking good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) www.klinklang.com / www.klingklang.de Date: 26 Jun 2000 12:11:08 +0100 "www.klingklang.com and www.klingklang.de redirect to a shop, asking for a password." Good, because the last route to where the Klingklang Konsum Produkt could be viewed was not exactly direct. Perhaps this just might mean there will be some new merchandise -- I certainly wish they'd re-issue that www.kraftwerk.com trikot shirt (or maybe a bootleg ".org" one, hehehe) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) www.klinklang.com / www.klingklang.de Date: 26 Jun 2000 13:52:29 +0200 "www=2Eklingklang=2Ecom and www=2Eklingklang=2Ede redirect to a shop, asking for a password=2E" Shit!, this might end up me being sued for my site at http://members=2Etripod=2Ecom/~KlingKlang/index=2Ehtml Better delete it right away =2E-) /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) www.klinklang.com / www.klingklang.de Date: 26 Jun 2000 13:16:16 +0100 johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: > > > "www.klingklang.com and www.klingklang.de redirect to a shop, > asking for a password." > > > Shit!, this might end up me being sued for my site at > > http://members.tripod.com/~KlingKlang/index.html I had better delete those joking references to "florian@klingklang.org.de" from the s*bscr*be section of the FAQ! How times have changed - superficially. Will we rename the email list anyway? :-) K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wonko@nulldevice.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #446 Date: 26 Jun 2000 08:14:20 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, kraftwerk-digest wrote: > From: robot@average.nu [mailto:robot@average.nu] > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:33 PM > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: (kw) HELP! Kraftwerk has sued me (No joke) > > > They want me to stop > 1) to use the domain-name "kraftwerk.org", > 2) to offer/let offer, copy/let copy and distribute/let distribute > musical recordings in form of mp3 files from the "Kraftwerk > repertoire",especially (Roboten - Expo 2014 remix, Erik Oehler - > Computer Love; SYSTEM - The plan) without permission of Mr. Ralf > H=FCtter and Florian Schneider-Esleben. I don't remember ever giving you permission to publish my cover version. In fact, I know I didn't because I never intended that for publishing! Please remove it from your site. _______________________________________________________ Eric Oehler / wonko@nulldevice.com / www.nulldevice.com I need to return some videotapes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Since we've been talking trademarks... Date: 26 Jun 2000 14:59:57 +0100 ...I thought I'd mention this: http://www.egroups.com/files/kraftwerkfans/K_bike.jpg For non-MTBers, it's a close up of the frame of a mountain bike (with pretty good suspension system by the looks of things). These people have a website: http://www.kraftwerk-bikes.de Alas, no produkt shown yet. :-) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Bassett" Subject: (kw) off topic Date: 26 Jun 2000 16:19:51 +0100 can anybody let me know what happened to British 90`s dance outfit "The Grid". Are they still together or are they no more? Cheers Mikey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) The Model Date: 26 Jun 2000 19:29:09 +0200 On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:26:22 +0200, Rick Jansen wrote: >A: The Model >B: The Man Machine So I guess this is an edited version of "Man Machine" > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Mini Calculateur? Date: 26 Jun 2000 19:33:16 +0200 On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:41:39 +0200, Timour JGENTI wrote: > >Hi, > >Is there any place on the net to find >the french version of Pocket Calculator? >Would be great if someone who have it would >put its mp3 online... :) It should be at ftp://lacava.dynip.com when it's up and running. Look in the /kraftwerk/rarities dir. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) vocals Date: 26 Jun 2000 19:35:58 +0200 Does anybody knows who spoke the vocals on "Dentaku" 1981? It doesn't seem to be one of the K'werkers but a real japanese man. Also I'm interessted in the vokals on "Stratovarius". I know this seems to be a little silly, because "Stratovarius" is obviously an instrumental. But if you listen carefully you can hear someone mumbling something like "shabadoo shabadoo" during he is shuffeling through a staircase. And then directly before that furious drum-solo somebody babbles if he wants to imitate that drum-solo before. Is it Ralf or Florian? Any Idea? Thanks Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:54:12 +0200 Date: 26 Jun 2000 11:54:33 -0600 TEST !!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: (kw) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:16:21 +0200 Date: 26 Jun 2000 12:16:49 -0600 hi y' all ! i'm really sorry 2 say this , but i've x-perienced MAJOR PROBLEMS with this fuckin' shitty DOMOTOOL 2day !!! *grim* :-/ it refused 2 send some of my mails 2 this list !!! :-/ so i don't have the slightest clue what has happend with this messages !!! all i can say is that maybe some ( 1 or 2 ) of them won't appear on this list !!! that's why i've decided 2 post the followin' link 2 an egroups list where u can read THE WHOLE MESSAGE !!! ;-) here's the link now : http://www.egroups.com/message/kraftwerkfans/205?&start=176 !!! ;-) check it out if u like !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx again from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) off topic Date: 26 Jun 2000 12:23:13 -0700 Mikey wrote: >can anybody let me know what happened to British 90`s dance outfit >"The Grid". Are they still together or are they no more? According to an un-official The Grid page, http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/mattski/Grid/index.html The Grid is on (indefinite) hiatus as a group since 1996. Enrique np: Music for Dancing, TG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Mark [Timezero]" Subject: (kw) Found some rare kw LPs... Date: 26 Jun 2000 23:44:59 +0200 Hi, i just went down to the second hand LP store today and found: The Man machine -1978 Captitol (Emi bovema holland -78) Radioactivity - 1975 Capitol (Emi bovema holland -75) Both are the english versions, cd condition excelent. I also have "Tour de france" hmm.. orginal. (condition not the best) Are these worth anything? I payed like 5 dollars for them (50 SKR) :) ///danny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) cha cha cha Date: 27 Jun 2000 09:50:47 +1000 Senor Coconut info at: http://www.multicolor-recordings.de/coconut.htm He's truly nuts. Enjoy :-) Vladimir Tittl __________________________________ http://living-net.com Uncompromised Hosting Solutions mailto:vt@living-net.com Phone: (+61) 0500 57 5557 Fax: (+61) 03 5165 3463 __________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) cha cha cha Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:12:39 -0400 Where can I find a sound file ? I tried Vladimir Tittl wrote: > Senor Coconut info at: > > http://www.multicolor-recordings.de/coconut.htm > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) >> my reply - x-tension part 2 !!! << *G+* ;-) Date: 26 Jun 2000 18:42:24 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:49 AM > /Greetings from Martin,. many greetinx ( once again ;-) from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) > Thanks all you who support me, well ... it has 2 be " thank you all who support(ed) me ! " then !!! *G+* ;-) > and you who don't make fun out of me. SO WHY DON'T MAKE *FUN* OUT OF SUCH A SILLY 1 ??? *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) >> my reply - x-tension part 2 !!! << *G+* ;-) i'm sorry , but this VERY SHITTY DOMOTOOL refused me ( twice again !!! :-/ ) 2 post the whole message in once !!! :-/ i hope this time it'll WERK out well !!! *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice ! " ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) >> my reply trilogy - part 1 << *G+* ;-) Date: 26 Jun 2000 17:56:11 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:49 AM On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:00:15 +0200, you wrote: +++ imho it's way 2 pretentious & impudent 2 set up a domain-name like www.kraftwerk.org if u actually don't have ANYTHIN' 2 do with KRAFTWERK itself then !!! +++ > Explain why. Your opinion isn't everybodys opinion, so why bother us? what more there is 2 x-plain then ??? *most_curious* if u don't get IT by now , u'll never ever get IT i suppose !!! so what ??? U ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHIN' 2 DO WITH KRAFTWERK ITSELF , haven't u ??? *still_curious* isn't that clear enough 4 ( all of ) u ??? *very_curious_indeed* btw : i haven't said that my opinion is - or have 2 be ! - everybody's opinion !!! so WHY r U botherin' US kw fans with your public cry 4 help , mate ??? u jus' want 2 drag us ( all ) in somethin' U have caused & which was DEFINITELY YOUR FAULT then !!! so please answer the question : WHY r u so impudent 2 set up a domain-name like www.kraftwerk.org , eh ??? WHY not www.roboten.org or anythin' else then ??? *even_more_curious_by_now* imho ( once again ;-) u jus' want 2 "participate" on KRAFTWERK's " big name " & their "overwhelmin'" popularity in an unrightful way & that's what STINKS & annoys me !!! *grim* :-/ +++ i can understand the legal actions that were caused against the "user" of this domain !!! he must be a really stupid guy if he thought that it was legal 2 "use" a domain-name like this !!! +++ > Thought? > I Know my full rights. The Germanz doesn't. well ... it may be legal in some countries & illegal in others then ... but if U still insist that U know your full rights , WHY r U botherin' US kw fans with your public cry 4 help , eh ??? *most_curious* u seem 2 be really uncertain about WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT ISN'T so far !!! so go & help yourself & don't bother US any longer here !!! btw : i suppose that kw & their solicitors KNOW what they have 2 do 2 keep people like U away from what is THEIR property - & NOT YOURS !!! +++ 2 be a fan of kw has ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN' 2 do with such a thing like he does when he sets up this domain-name !!! all he wants is 2 take benefit of the name KRAFTWERK itself then & that's really despicable !!! +++ > I want to honour Kraftwerk. That's the catch. i'm sorry , but THAT'S WAY 2 RIDICULOUS 4 ME 2 BELIEVE !!! if u want money from THEM now so that THEY can buy back what has 2 be THEIR property already u must be totally out of your fan(atic) mind then , mate !!! >> my reply trilogy - part 1 << *G+* ;-) i'm sorry , but this shitty domotool refused me 2 post the whole message in once !!! :-/ i hope this time it'll WERK out well !!! *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice ! " ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) >> my reply trilogy - part 3 << *G+* ;-) Date: 26 Jun 2000 18:15:12 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:49 AM > I have nearly all KW-records. well ... that's really nice 4 u , mate !!! *G+* ;-) > The latest is the Philips release of the R&F Album on Vinyl. WOW !!! ;-) MIGHTY *KEWL* !!! *G+* ;-) > I've visited two concerts. ABSOLUTE INCREDIBLE !!! *LOL* ;-))) > I've done tribute-songs to KW so U think THAT makes u a "real" kw fan & supporter , eh ??? *most_curious* ;-) OH MY GOSH !!! that's all i can say by now !!! :-/ > The only thing that makes me a "fake" kw fan & supporter is that I > wanted to make a tribute-site to honour the group. *ROTFLOLA* ;-))) U still want US 2 believe that ??? HOW PRETENTIOUS & IMPUDENT R U THEN ??? IT'S TOTALLY RIDICULOUS & NEARLY OBSCENE WHAT U SAID !!! *grim* :-/ so PLEASE tell us " ignorant people " ( *G+* ;-) : WHY has it 2 be a domain-name like www.kraftwerk.org & not www.roboten.org or somethin' like that ??? *still_curious_after_all* u jus' disqualify yourself with your "statements" about " your tribute-site 2 honour the group " now !!! *hehehe* ;-))) 2 me u r jus' an immature guy who's desperately seekin' 4 attention with his so-called "tribute-site" & his whining complaints about those bad , bad solicitors of kw !!! *LOL* about U !!! ;-))) go elsewhere 2 cry 4 help in public , mate !!! *G+* ;-) ... & PLEASE : STOP BOTHERIN' US WITH YOUR SILLINESS NOW !!! DID U GET IT ... FINALLY ??? >> my reply trilogy - part 3 << *G+* ;-) i'm sorry , but this VERY SHITTY DOMOTOOL refused me ( twice again !!! :-/ ) 2 post the whole message in once !!! :-/ i hope this time it'll WERK out well !!! *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice ! " ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@average.nu (Roboten) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk has ..... (EOD?) Date: 26 Jun 2000 20:04:13 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:32:17 +0200, you wrote: >so what ??? U ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHIN' 2 DO WITH KRAFTWERK ITSELF , >haven't u ??? *still_curious* isn't that clear enough 4 ( all of ) u ??? So what? I'm a fan. The domain was free for anyone to register. If I wouldn't have registered, any other could have. If you check the date when it was registered and the date I received the mail from KW's manager the first time, You must see that there were some months between those dates. Maybe Mr Anonymous from Taiwan would have put up a pornsite.. And would have been impossible to reach,.. And yes, he might even get away with it, because the page is not associated with the group at all. >btw : i haven't said that my opinion is - or have 2 be ! - everybody's >opinion !!! so WHY r U botherin' US kw fans with your public cry 4 help = , >mate ??? u jus' want 2 drag us ( all ) in somethin' U have caused & = which >was DEFINITELY YOUR FAULT then !!!=20 I thought it might be of interest to other KW "fans".. Probably not those like you., but about 20 others. >so please answer the question : WHY r u >so impudent 2 set up a domain-name like www.kraftwerk.org , eh ??? WHY = not >www.roboten.org or anythin' else then ???=20 It was free for anyone to register as I've said earlier.=20 Noone complained the first time I mentioned the domain at this list.=20 I only got great response from folks wanting to share songs at the page. >imho ( once again ;-) u jus' want 2 "participate" on KRAFTWERK's " big = name >" & their "overwhelmin'" popularity in an unrightful way & that's what >STINKS & annoys me !!! *grim* :-/ Screw your opinion.=20 If someone created a website for me at www.martinrundqvist.com or www.roboten.org, I would feel honored. These guys didn't.. >well ... it may be legal in some countries & illegal in others then ... = but Yep. And if It's so Illegal in Germany, I could just block the whole .de top-domain and the problem would be solved. >if U still insist that U know your full rights , WHY r U botherin' US kw >fans with your public cry 4 help , eh ??? *most_curious* I know I'm right, but I have some problem to explain to the german lawyer that this is not my problem. >u seem 2 be really uncertain about WHAT IS RIGHT & WHAT ISN'T so far !!!= so >go & help yourself & don't bother US any longer here !!! btw : i suppose >that kw & their solicitors KNOW what they have 2 do 2 keep people like U >away from what is THEIR property - & NOT YOURS !!! Commenting that one will probably just ban me from this list, so I don't.=20 >i'm sorry , but THAT'S WAY 2 RIDICULOUS 4 ME 2 BELIEVE !!! if u want = money >from THEM now so that THEY can buy back what has 2 be THEIR property = already >u must be totally out of your fan(atic) mind then , mate !!! You don't simply understand. That's your problem. If they own something, then it's their property. I own kxxxxxxxk.org.=20 >> I don't make any money on this site. I've payed 80$ to get the domain. >your loss then !!! ;-) No loss yet. >i'm not complainin' about the use of mp3's on "your" site then !!! = that's >okay with me ... so far !!! what simply annoys me is that U STILL DON'T = GET >THE POINT of the whole domain-name thingy !!! 2 make it very , very = simple & >understandable 4 everybody - incl. U " mr. roboten " : NO-ONE IN THE = WHOLE >"WEBWIDEWORLD" HAS THE RIGHT 2 OWN WWW.KRAFTWERK.ORG X-CEPT KW THEMSELF = OR >SOMEBODY WHO HAS MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM ABOUT THE USE OF THE >DOMAIN-NAME >> BEFORE !!! << THE SITE WAS SET UP & NOT AFTER IT WAS DONE= !!! >so U HAVEN'T MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM >> BEFORE !!! << & THAT'S YOUR >FAULT & YOUR LOSS !!! it's that simple indeed !!! if the laws of certain >countries doesn't suit this NATURAL RIGHT OF PROPERTY then these laws r = bad >laws imho !!! Only Germany have that law, as far as I know. And all I know think that is a bad law. Not just my opinion. >*ROTFLOL* ;-))) U still didn't get the point @ all , mate !!! *sigh* :-/= u >really don't have 2 own ANY of their records or have 2 visited ANY of = their >concerts then 2 be a "real" kw fan or supporter !!! u jus' have 2 like -= or >even *love* ! ;-) - their music & their style & MOST OF ALL >> = R-E-S-P-E-C-T >!!! << what they've done 4 us fans so far & >> R-E-S-P-E-C-T !!! << WHAT= IS >>> T-H-E-I-R !!! << PROPERTY & PRIVACY !!! GET IT NOW ??? i sincerely = hope >so !!! *phew* ;-) So you hate Wolfgang Fl=FCer as much as you hate me? He (if someone) knows how to treat KW's property & Privacy.. Read the book. >so U think THAT makes u a "real" kw fan & supporter , eh ??? = *most_curious* >;-) I asked for you to define it.=20 >u jus' disqualify yourself with your "statements" about " your = tribute-site >2 honour the group " now !!! *hehehe* ;-))) >2 me u r jus' an immature guy who's desperately seekin' 4 attention with= his >so-called "tribute-site" & his whining complaints about those bad , bad >solicitors of kw !!! *LOL* about U !!! ;-))) go elsewhere 2 cry 4 help = in >public , mate !!! *G+* ;-) ... & PLEASE : STOP BOTHERIN' US WITH YOUR >SILLINESS NOW !!! DID U GET IT ... FINALLY ??? I will not stop bothering anyone on this list if they don't tell me to. Your "mail" (looks more like an drunk IRC'ers log.) isn't simply reason enough.=20 As I'm a very kind person, I will let all of you decide if you want to keep this thread living. If you don't, stop replying to the list. ONLY personal replys. If you want, keep on writing. I will only comment mail to the list that are originally written to it. As now, it seems that just this micro-guy wants this.=20 And for your interest, I can say this. I want to trade the domain name for an autographed photo of KW or the registration ammount. (80$). Sounds fair? /Martin aka Roboten (tm) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) >> my reply trilogy - part 2 << *G+* ;-) Date: 26 Jun 2000 18:03:49 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:49 AM On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:00:15 +0200, you wrote: +++ i suppose that he would have even lesser than 25% of "hits" on his site if it wasn't set up with a really " big name " like KRAFTWERK 4 instance !!! that's what annoys me the most & that's why i suggest that he shuts down his site asap 2 prevent any further actions of kw solicitors !!! +++ > I don't make any money on this site. I've payed 80$ to get the domain. your loss then !!! ;-) > I don't even have banners because I think that would hurt the name of > Kraftwerk. The mp3's are work of members from the Kraftwerk > Mailing-list, and a disclaimer can be found on the page tellling who > has the copyright to the original tracks. If that's so bad, I won't > have the mp3's available. i'm not complainin' about the use of mp3's on "your" site then !!! that's okay with me ... so far !!! what simply annoys me is that U STILL DON'T GET THE POINT of the whole domain-name thingy !!! 2 make it very , very simple & understandable 4 everybody - incl. U " mr. roboten " : NO-ONE IN THE WHOLE "WEBWIDEWORLD" HAS THE RIGHT 2 OWN WWW.KRAFTWERK.ORG X-CEPT KW THEMSELF OR SOMEBODY WHO HAS MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM ABOUT THE USE OF THE DOMAIN-NAME >> BEFORE !!! << THE SITE WAS SET UP & NOT AFTER IT WAS DONE !!! so U HAVEN'T MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM >> BEFORE !!! << & THAT'S YOUR FAULT & YOUR LOSS !!! it's that simple indeed !!! if the laws of certain countries doesn't suit this NATURAL RIGHT OF PROPERTY then these laws r bad laws imho !!! +++ however ... peace 2 all "real" kw fans & supporters !!! +++ > Define "real". well ... it's very simple 2 define "real" : "real" kw fans & supporters r those who know WHAT IS KW'S PROPERTY & PRIVACY & they would NEVER EVER go out & "steal" domain-names like www.kraftwerk.org or www.kraftwerk.nu which is still "available" by now !!! ;-) or somethin' like that !!! > How many records should they own? > How many concerts should they visit? *ROTFLOL* ;-))) U still didn't get the point @ all , mate !!! *sigh* :-/ u really don't have 2 own ANY of their records or have 2 visited ANY of their concerts then 2 be a "real" kw fan or supporter !!! u jus' have 2 like - or even *love* ! ;-) - their music & their style & MOST OF ALL >> R-E-S-P-E-C-T !!! << what they've done 4 us fans so far & >> R-E-S-P-E-C-T !!! << WHAT IS >> T-H-E-I-R !!! << PROPERTY & PRIVACY !!! GET IT NOW ??? i sincerely hope so !!! *phew* ;-) >> my reply trilogy - part 2 << *G+* ;-) i'm sorry , but this shitty domotool refused me 2 post the whole message in once !!! :-/ i hope this time it'll WERK out well !!! *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice ! " ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wonko@nulldevice.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk and trademark Date: 26 Jun 2000 22:41:04 -0500 (CDT) With domain names, there has been some legal precedent. For example: MTV.com was first owned by Adam Curry, and MTV vj. They sued him for the domain, since MTV Networks owned the trademark on MTV. They won, and he had to relinquish the name. Same with McDonalds. Same with IronChef.net - FujiTV owns the trademark on "Iron Chef." Kraftwerk does own the trademark (it might be a registered mark or a service mark, I can't remember) on the name "kraftwerk." Granted, there's issues of context, but there's legal precedence for that too. If there was a powerplant that owned kraftwerk.org, R&F would have a hard time proving infringement. However, if it's in context, i.e. R&F's lawyers can conclusively show that the "kraftwerk" referred to in "kraftwerk.org" or whatever is either in reference to them or in the same context (i.e. electronic music - although this is a harder fight) then there is very clear legal recourse for copyright infringement. I'm guessing though, in teh case of kraftwerk.org, they wouldn't have bothered if there had't been unlicensed mp3's on it. with a .org and mp3's it's too easily mistaken for "official" information. No mp3's, and it probably woulda slipped under the radar, so to speak. _______________________________________________________ Eric Oehler / wonko@nulldevice.com / www.nulldevice.com I need to return some videotapes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Krautrock compo Date: 27 Jun 2000 06:18:53 +0200 Another release to keep an eye on comes courtesy of Cleopatra; a tripple CD (3XCD) entitled "This is Krautrock," set for release on June 27th. Right. Back to the beans and bikes... -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. ICQ# 39315191 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 26 Jun 2000 23:13:16 +0200 >imho it's way 2 pretentious & impudent 2 set up a domain-name like >www.kraftwerk.org if u actually don't have ANYTHIN' 2 do with KRAFTWERK >itself then !!! What!!! You obviously dont know anything about domain names. Read this = carefully: ANYONE CAN BUY ANY DOMAIN NAME WHICH IS NOT ALREADY BOUGHT!!!! As long as we are talking about com, net and org domains, that is. It is = 100% legal for a Swedish fan to buy kraftwerk.org and put ANYTHING of = legal matter there. Maybe not MP3s of remixes, but he can put cake = recepies or pictures of his dog there. It doesnt have to be KW related = and it doesnt have to be OK'ed by KW. Its just stupidity and ignorance from the KW guys that they didnt buy = kraftwerk.org in the first place. Sorry for them!! >i can understand the legal actions that were caused against the "user" = of >this domain !!! It is not understandable. The lawyers are trying to scare someone who = legally bought an available domain. >i suppose that he would have even lesser than 25% of "hits" on his site = if >it wasn't set up with a really " big name " like KRAFTWERK 4 instance = !!! You have nothing to support this statement on. Its pure fantasy. glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Robot Wars Date: 27 Jun 2000 08:31:38 +0100 Roboten wrote: > As I'm a very kind person, I will let all of you decide if you want to > keep this thread living. It's definitely on-topic and surely of wide interest. "the new ROBOT voice ;-)" may disagree with you, but that's on-topic too - I'm not sure why he's so aggressive about his position, however. the new ROBOT voice ;-) wrote: > 2 me u r jus' an immature guy who's desperately seekin' 4 attention The Trans-Irony Express just smashed into the station buffers, I think! K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) July 8th? Date: 27 Jun 2000 07:43:23 GMT I'm sure it was mentioned some time ago that another date set for the release of the 'new' material was July 8th. Do any insiders have confirmation info? much appreciated, Matthew ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) Cha cha cha 2000 Date: 27 Jun 2000 10:15:09 +0100 nitrous wrote: "Where can I find a sound file? I tried" how about here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/music-glance/B00004HYJA/qid=962096938/s r=1-1/103-3149965-5901401 (what is this album "Wohnmodell 2000", btw? Released 4 July) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Flatz/Bartos: Love & Violence Date: 27 Jun 2000 12:51:18 +0200 Rolling Stone (german edition) July 2000, p 77, rates the album **1/2 and marks it as "elegisch-dramatischen Techno-Pop" and "wenig originell". Not one single word about the participation of Karl Bartos. Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk domain Date: 27 Jun 2000 16:15:04 +0200 To whom it may concern: kraftwerk.TV can be registered immediately for $100*. http://www.tv/en-def-264dfa2bec2e/en/index.shtml info@www.TV DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: (kw) kraftwerk.TV Date: 27 Jun 2000 15:40:01 +0100 "kraftwerk.TV can be registered immediately for $100*." I suppose it stands for Television and not the other kind of TV :-) http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: Re: (kw) www.klingklang.com / www.klingklang.de Date: 27 Jun 2000 08:57:07 PDT Its opened for buisness! No new products though :( /Andréas >www.klingklang.com and www.klingklang.de redirect to a shop, >asking for a password. I guess we can expect something happening >there one of these days. If I remember correctly, www.klingklang.com >or .de ended up at a Galerie Klingklang before... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me! (Follow Up!) Date: 27 Jun 2000 19:12:32 +0200 On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:21:52 PDT, Peder Livijn wrote: >http://www.abc.se/~m9736/kw, and one funny thing that strikes me is tha= t R&F >obviously own the rights to MY original song (SYSTEM - The Plan)feature= d on >the site K*******K.ORG. I wonder how that can be, i havn=B4t been conta= cted >with any offers to buy it - STRANGE ;-) Then you should make them an offer, based on DM400.000 for 20 seconds of= music, I don't know how long is your song but I suspect you could becom= e rich. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) >> my reply trilogy - part 3 << *G+* ;-) Date: 27 Jun 2000 19:24:46 +0200 On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:15:12 +0200, the new ROBOT voice ;-\) wrote: >*G+* ;-) ... & PLEASE : STOP BOTHERIN' US WITH YOUR >SILLINESS NOW !!! DID U GET IT ... FINALLY ??? > No, that's interesting. If it bothers you, just skip the messages. btw, would you be so kind to write corectly in English, I don't understand most of the acronyms you use in your messages. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) >> my reply trilogy - part 3 Date: 27 Jun 2000 23:03:03 +0200 Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > btw, would you be so kind to write corectly in English, "Im Nachtklub trinkt sie immer Sekt, corect"? Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) July 8th? Date: 27 Jun 2000 23:15:59 +0200 Matthew Large wrote: > > I'm sure it was mentioned some time ago that another date set for the > release of the 'new' material was July 8th. > Do any insiders have confirmation info? Yes, July 8th is a Saturday. I don't think many records get released on a Saturday. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: SV: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 27 Jun 2000 14:26:31 -0700 >With company names that are trademarks, its a different thing. If >Kraftwerk has successfully registered >their name as a trademark, then >they might get away with sueing fans that use the word in domain >names. >But, "kraftwerk" is just a German word for power station / power plant. >Nobody can own words. >It depends on wether the word "kraftwerk" is >associated enough with the band and if they registered it >as a trademark. However... "Kraftwerk" is a nonsense word in English, and, presumably, most other languages. English speakers don't refer to a power plant as a "kraftwerk". The only Kraftwerk in the English/Spanish/French/Japanese (et cetera) speaking world is an electronic music group. Let's say I make up a nonsense word for my business, like "Drachion Multimedia". I trademark that word. I make "Drachion.com". A few years later, I find out that "dracion" is an Eskimo word for "seal eyeball", and suddenly an Eskimo delicatessan has claimed "Drachion.org". Do they have the right to use my trademarked nonsense word? Conversely, do I have the right to sue? Words are a strange thing. Kraftwerk is a power plant, Laibach is an obsolete country name, Einstuerzende Neubauten is a bunch of buildings falling down. Or are they all nonsense words used to designate musical groups? I guess it depends which language you speak. This would make such a good KW song. All these paradoxies and anomolies of international language. It would have the same feeling as "Numbers". :> ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: Re: (kw) Set Breakdown Date: 27 Jun 2000 14:29:42 -0700 >"Ghost in the machine" puns at your discretion! Ghost in the Man Machine? Ho ho! Oh my. ---Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: (kw) (KW)Concert Classics question Date: 28 Jun 2000 00:24:20 +0200 (CEST) I've just bought the Concert Classics and Trans Europa Express, and now a couple of questions appears in my mind: 1) Does anyone have a transcription of what they're mubmling about after "Autobahn", when they're having problesm with the "mechanical drum (kit?)" 2) where can I find the lyrics for all the KW song. I remember one place, but I simply cannot remember the URL for it. 3) I don't seem to recall an album called "Elektro Kinetic". Was this a low-selling piece of junk, or does it simply not contains any special numbers? Yours sincerelly Kaspar D. Larsen ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Coconut Date: 27 Jun 2000 10:19:01 +0100 The new issue of The Wire reviews Senor Cocnut's 'El Baile Aleman' and 'Tour de France', praising him and Kraftwerk: for example, "Senor Coconut transforms what might have easily become and excuse for musical flippancy into a revealing demonstration of Kraftwerk's melodic strength and vibrancy". His version of 'Expo 2000', which appears on 'Tour de France', is described as "hip-hugging mambo"... K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 27 Jun 2000 10:59:20 +0100 (For what it's worth) I tend to agree with Glenn F on this .org conundrum, but... Having read the letters Robot's received, Kraftwerk seem to be saying: a) they admit Robot is the owner of the domain name. b) the use of the word Kraftwerk as a name/brandname is a registered trademark owned by R+F. c) stop using .org (to avoid confusion), cancel ownership and transfer it to R+F. d) stop providing (i.e. publishing) mp3 files of unauthorised copyright material. f) give R+F information about who's visited the .org site and downloaded the mp3s. h) Robot pays any costs involved. However, because Robot published mp3s of copyright material without permission (e.g. Eric Oehler's cover) R+F are now in a position to bully Robot into giving up the domain name. This is why 'f)' is important: if R+F decide to prosecute they will want evidence that will force Robot to settle out of court, i.e. give them the domain name (well, they don't need the money). 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk: Danish appearance Date: 28 Jun 2000 09:48:09 +0200 Josef Gabler schrieb: > (...) > A Austrian Station broadcasted a coverversion of T. E. E. /Metal on > Metal/Abzug > over 35 minutes with long termed samples of EXPO2000. > Absolutely fine! Eeeh? An austrian station? Which was it? > After that - of course - > some excerpts of the coconuts CD. > More than one hour of Kraftwerk=B4s music! > > Great! Seems I missed that :-(. Did U tape it? Can you make a copy of it? Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- *-*-*- * "Wir sind die Roboter" + KRAFTWERK + http://www.kraftwerk.com * * EXPO 2000 + Mensch-Natur-Technik + http://www.expo2000.de * * * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) + ICQ: 53829477 * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ + phone/SMS: +436765621850 * *-*-*-* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: SV: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 28 Jun 2000 10:20:01 +0100 Jason Polland wrote: > Laibach is an obsolete country name Actually it's the obsolete German name for the city of Ljublana. > Einstuerzende Neubauten is a bunch of buildings Neubauten is also an architectural style, nicht wahr? ... enough of my off-topic pedantry, but it confirms your point! >> "Ghost in the machine" puns at your discretion! > > Ghost in the Man Machine? Ouch! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar.Wess@t-online.de (Wess) Subject: (kw) (OT) Neubauten + "Ghost in the Machine" Date: 28 Jun 2000 19:31:14 +0200 Kevin Busby wrote: > > Einstuerzende Neubauten is a bunch of buildings > > Neubauten is also an architectural style, nicht wahr? "Neubauten" are in fact "new buildings". So "Einstürzende Neubauten" can be translated with "Tumbling new buildings" > ... enough of my off-topic pedantry, but it confirms your point! > > >> "Ghost in the machine" puns at your discretion! I'm still not sure if I understand this correctly. "Geist in der Maschine" macht Wortspiel an ihrer Vorsicht - ?????? HELP Gunnar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos News Date: 28 Jun 2000 21:23:00 +0000 The July issue of the German magazine Raveline features an interview with Karl Bartos. He mentions that his next release will be a cooperation with Anthony Rother. It is also stated that he plans to release an "interactive album" together with Bauhouse, based on the concept of their recent club tour. The same issue also has a small piece on Kraftwerk, who are, according to an unnamed EMI spokesman, "currently in the studio, working on new tracks"... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Francois K.: "Essential Mix" (was: Re: (kw) some questions) Date: 28 Jun 2000 21:23:00 +0000 > 1)does anyone have Francois K. 'Essential Mix' w/ Homecomputer? Is it any > good? It's a medley. The "Homecomputer" part is basically an unalterered excerpt from the original "Computer World" album version. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Stop(ped) Radio-Acitivity? (was: Re: (kw) cha cha cha) Date: 28 Jun 2000 21:23:00 +0000 > Senor Coconut info at: > http://www.multicolor-recordings.de/coconut.htm The album tracklisting on this website doesn't include the "Radio-Activity" cover version anymore, which seems to confirm the rumours that Florian Schneider disliked the idea of parodying such a "serious" song. :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no (Joar Grimstvedt) Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.org & other "related" websites !!! *LOL* ;-))) Date: 28 Jun 2000 23:06:39 +0200 On Jun 26, 5:14am, "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" wrote: > www.kraftwerk.no ( " kraftwerk productions " from norway !!! currently " > under construction " !!! ;-) > - btw : most interestin' : the whole address , phone & fax numbers of the > webmaster ( ??? ) is displayed on the site !!! ;-) This is a film production company, so it's a very real company. For Norwegian viewers, they made the "Mad Max" style ad for Imsdal bottled water ("En gang i fremtiden"). As an aside, the Norwegian word for "power plant" is "kraftverk". Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.five.no/joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: SV: SV: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) Date: 28 Jun 2000 23:23:45 +0200 Jason Polland wrote: > However... "Kraftwerk" is a nonsense word in English, and, = presumably, >most other languages. English speakers don't refer to a power plant as = a >"kraftwerk". The only Kraftwerk in the English/Spanish/French/Japanese = (et >cetera) speaking world is an electronic music group. But then again, Kraftwerk is possibly not famous enough for them to = claim to be a "known name" or a "worked-in trademark". In the case with = Julia Roberts, she probably won because she is a household name among = the general audience. I doubt wether Kraftwerk could claim that in a = court and win.=20 > Let's say I make up a nonsense word for my business, like "Drachion >Multimedia". I trademark that word. I make "Drachion.com". A few = years >later, I find out that "dracion" is an Eskimo word for "seal eyeball", = and >suddenly an Eskimo delicatessan has claimed "Drachion.org". Do they = have >the right to use my trademarked nonsense word? Conversely, do I have = the >right to sue? Yes on both accounts. But wether you'd get anywhere with your lawsuit, = is another thing. There are plenty of cases where domain names are = bought and then offered to the "rightful" owner of the domain. Thats is = it's own business type these days. Companies specialize in buying domain = names and hope they will be hot enough for some other company that = actually use this name, for them to buy it for a huge sum. There havent been enough court presedences about this thing for a = general rule to be established. Locally, with country domain names, it = might be easier. Years ago, a private person in Norway registered = gjensidige.no and hoping that the big insurance company Gjensidige would = fork out lots of money to get the rights to it. A court case ruled that = the person had to give up the domain name even if he acquired it = legally, because Gjensidige was a well known company and the word was = such a household name name that it itself had become a trademark.=20 glenn www.folkvord.net/electronicshadows # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Trademarks and domain names Date: 29 Jun 2000 00:23:32 +0000 > But then again, Kraftwerk is possibly not famous enough for them to > claim to be a "known name" or a "worked-in trademark". "Kraftwerk" is a registered trademark, so it doesn't need to be particulary famous to be protected. > I doubt wether Kraftwerk could claim that in a court and win. How do you explain that Kraftwerk were able to sue the previous owner of kraftwerk.com successfully? > There are plenty of cases where domain names are bought and then offered > to the "rightful" owner of the domain. Thats is it's own business type these > days. Yes, and in many countries it is illegal business. In the USA, it could be a violation of the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, for example. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) (KW)Concert Classics question Date: 29 Jun 2000 02:00:41 +0200 dr_who_dk@yahoo.dk writes: =20 > >1) Does anyone have a transcription of what they're >mubmling about after "Autobahn", when they're having >problesm with the "mechanical drum (kit?)" =20 They are mumbling: =20 "Thank you...=20 Dankesch=F6n..." =20 Then: ... not understandable =20 Then: "Muss immer passier=B4n wenn... Radio l=E4uft, das is so bescheuert= ! "Da is ne Trommel ausgefallen zum Beispiel..." =20 Then (Ralf H=FCtter): " Aber gut".... After a while: "Korrekt" After a while: "Soll=B4n wir=B4n bisschen KlinKlang spielen oder so...?" Other Person: "KlingKlang?..., jaja!" Other Person: Scheiss......, ich blick nich=B4 durch. =20 Then (Ralf H=FCtter) anouncing: "KLINGKLANG" =20 ---------Soundcheck------- =20 Then (Ralf H=FCtter) to the Audience: Just one second, there is..... =20 Then... not understandable =20 Then (Ralf H=FCtter): "War aber gut ne?, war korrekt geradedurch, Autobah= n war korrekt glaub ich...." ..."Korrekt und doch solide". Vern=FCnftig und trotzdem..." (directly through the microphone) "Vern=FCnftig und trotzdem gediegen." (He=B4s joking around with another musician.) =20 > ---------Soundcheck------- =20 Then (Ralf H=FCtter): Warum nicht...? Kannst=B4 doch zur=FCckspiel=B4n...= , spiel doch zur=FCck!" =20 -----Track 3----- =20 After that:=20 =20 "He!... Wolfg=E4ng?..." =20 H=FCtter: Was ist los? ... some english dialogues...=20 (I can only identify H=FCtters: "10 Million listeners in china".=20 Other Person. "Sorry?"=20 H=FCtter repeats the sentence.=20 Other Person: "CHINA!, yes.") =20 -----track 4-----fade out. =20 Regards ---joseph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Wickson" Subject: (kw) Aktivitaet online zine? Date: 28 Jun 2000 21:34:13 PDT Whatever happened to this excellent source of information? Last time I checked it's been offline for 6 months now. Are they refurbishing it? Has it been shut down due to a disapproval of Tim Barr's book? Also, I've never been able to access to Spanish language version. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Wickson" Subject: (kw) Brand new KW site Date: 28 Jun 2000 21:49:14 PDT

I forget to include my new URL in the last message! This is a brand new Kraftwerk site so I need to fill up my message book and my links page. So all Kraftwerk/Electronic music site managers may sign my message book, and I will post their URL on my links page!
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kraftwerkelectronicdancemusiccommunities

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My URL in the last message should have read
http://communities.msn.com/
kraftwerkelectronicdancemusiccommunity

This is my brand new KW site! So all you other site managers out there please fill up my message board and I will post your URLs on my links page, thanks!

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Coen Rampen" Subject: RE: (kw) (KW)Concert Classics question Date: 29 Jun 2000 08:01:26 +0200 Hey all, > dr_who_dk@yahoo.dk writes: > > > > >1) Does anyone have a transcription of what they're > >mubmling about after "Autobahn", when they're having > >problesm with the "mechanical drum (kit?)" > > They are mumbling: > > "Thank you... > Dankesch=F6n..." > > Then: ... not understandable > > Then: "Muss immer passier=B4n wenn... Radio l=E4uft, das is so bescheue= rt! > "Da is ne Trommel ausgefallen zum Beispiel..." > > Then (Ralf H=FCtter): " Aber gut".... > After a while: "Korrekt" > After a while: "Soll=B4n wir=B4n bisschen KlinKlang spielen oder so...= ?" > Other Person: "KlingKlang?..., jaja!" > Other Person: Scheiss......, ich blick nich=B4 durch. > > Then (Ralf H=FCtter) anouncing: "KLINGKLANG" > > ---------Soundcheck------- > > Then (Ralf H=FCtter) to the Audience: Just one second, there is..... > > Then... not understandable He says: Just one second, there's some problem on the electronic drum kit= ... ok... > Then (Ralf H=FCtter): "War aber gut ne?, war korrekt geradedurch, Autob= ahn > war korrekt glaub ich...." > ..."Korrekt und doch solide". Vern=FCnftig und trotzdem..." (directly > through the microphone) "Vern=FCnftig und trotzdem gediegen." > (He=B4s joking around with another musician.) > > > > ---------Soundcheck------- > > Then (Ralf H=FCtter): Warum nicht...? Kannst=B4 doch zur=FCckspiel=B4n.= .., spiel > doch zur=FCck!" > > -----Track 3----- > > After that: > > "He!... Wolfg=E4ng?..." > > H=FCtter: Was ist los? > ... some english dialogues... > (I can only identify H=FCtters: "10 Million listeners in china". > Other Person. "Sorry?" > H=FCtter repeats the sentence. > Other Person: "CHINA!, yes.") > > -----track 4-----fade out. Impressive transcription; voices are VERY hard to make out... Greetz, Coen Rampen c.rampen@student.utwente.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) Trademarks and domain names Date: 29 Jun 2000 02:48:14 +0200 Klaus Zaepke wrote: >"Kraftwerk" is a registered trademark, so it doesn't need to be=20 >particulary famous to be protected. OK, problem solved. >How do you explain that Kraftwerk were able to sue the previous owner=20 >of kraftwerk.com successfully? Now that you tell me their name is registered, that explains it. = Trademark infringement. >Yes, and in many countries it is illegal business. In the USA, it=20 >could be a violation of the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection=20 >Act, for example. Its not a violation per today but they are working on new laws to make = it illegal. glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: SV: (kw) Trademarks and domain names Date: 29 Jun 2000 10:16:35 +0000 > >Yes, and in many countries it is illegal business. In the USA, it > >could be a violation of the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection > >Act, for example. > > Its not a violation per today but they are working on new laws to make it illegal. I thought that the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act is already in force since November 29th, 1999? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) Org and Com Date: 29 Jun 2000 10:30:44 +0100 Above all this shite, I was under the impression that '.org' suffixes are reserved for non-profit organisations, such as charities and social organisations. If this is the intended case, why do kraftwerk wish to pursue this? In the uk, we are encouraged not to register '.com' addresses in favour of .co.uk, as these represent a profit making british company (is that an oxymoron?) and .org.uk for charities. It is clear that kraftwerk.org is breaking some rules of use, as it is wholly a connection with the band, but Kraftwerk should be stopped from purchasing a '.org' address IMHO. Are kraftwerk breaking internet protocol by attempting to muscle in on this domain? Whatever happens, there is no real solution, as different countries have different laws. Even in Europe, you can't enforce a local law onto another country. Lastly, mr 'new robot voice', you ain't funny, I much prefer the original Robot, at least she had some humility. And try writing in english, preferably not the pigeon variety. ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) some more info & different opinions about this whole domain-name "conundrum" by now !!! ;-) Date: 29 Jun 2000 11:48:15 +0200 hi y' all ! do u want some more info & different opinions about this whole domain-name "conundrum" by now ??? if your answer is " YES !!! " , then simply follow this link : http://www.egroups.com/message/kraftwerkfans/217?&start=199 !!! ;-) check it out if u like !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx again from oh jay a.k.a. micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Daniel_N=E5gonting?= Subject: Re: (kw) Trademarks and domain names Date: 29 Jun 2000 12:06:21 +0200 Hennes & Mauritz were sued by the Logg family and relatives for using their name in their L.O.G.G. (Label of graded goods) line. I think it was as late as last year, and Hennes and Mauritz won the case. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Org and Com Date: 29 Jun 2000 11:18:13 +0100 Jules Seifert wrote: > and .org.uk for charities. It is clear that kraftwerk.org > is breaking some rules of use, as it is wholly a connection with the band, > but Kraftwerk should be stopped from purchasing a '.org' address IMHO. Yes, I mentioned this in passing IIRC, but the situation with ".org.uk" does not seem to be the same as with ".org". There is a restriction on the former, but apparently not on the latter. > Lastly, mr 'new robot voice', you ain't funny, I much prefer the original > Robot, at least she had some humility. Arrggh, no return to *ROBOSMILEY*s and *WHIRR*ing every other word, please. That really got on my nerves. I'd much rather have the !!! :-))) G++ "impudence" than that. > And try writing in english, preferably not the pigeon variety. ;-) Agreed, the "B1FF" (see http://www.elsewhere.org/jargon/jargon_17.html#SEC24) style is now very old. I'm sure OJ's distinctive character ;-) would shine brighter in unencoded English! K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Org and Com Date: 29 Jun 2000 12:48:53 +0200 (MEST) > I was under the impression that '.org' suffixes are > reserved for non-profit organisations, such as charities and social > organisations. If this is the intended case, No, it isn't. It's just a convention, but no rule. The rules for registering "com" and "org" domains are identical. Klaus Zaepke -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik J. Eid" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #448 Date: 29 Jun 2000 07:03:29 -0400 At 12:24 AM 6/28/00 +0200, Kaspar Larsen wrote: >3) I don't seem to recall an album called "Elektro >Kinetic". Was this a low-selling piece of junk, or >does it simply not contains any special numbers? There is an electronic band out of the U.K. called Kinetik, which got its start as a Kraftwerk cover band named Elektro-Kinetik. This may be what you're thinking of. Kinetik's URL is http://www.lifehouse.force9.co.uk/Kinetik/. . . \_ +\_ + o_-/ . O . \-_o -=/- . . . . \=// . ---------\_______ ||O ___.______ /* Erik Eid */ \____||L/\_____/ /* eeid@wwnet.net */_______________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Marston Subject: RE: (kw) Re: Elektro-Kinetik album Date: 29 Jun 2000 12:19:06 +0100 The Elektro-Kinetik LP came out in the UK about a month before the computer World album and it was a compilation of tracks from pre-Autobahn albums. I think the record company (Vertigo, part of Polygram) also re-released the Kometenmelodie single about the same time. I can't remember if there was anything from the first KW album on 'Elektro-Kinetik', or just tracks from '2' and 'R&F', as I got rid of it fairly soon afterwards. If you've got their early albums you don't need this compilation unless your a sad completist IMHO. :-) > ---------- > From: Erik J. Eid > > At 12:24 AM 6/28/00 +0200, Kaspar Larsen wrote: > >3) I don't seem to recall an album called "Elektro > >Kinetic". Was this a low-selling piece of junk, or > >does it simply not contains any special numbers? > > There is an electronic band out of the U.K. called Kinetik, which got its > start as a Kraftwerk cover band named Elektro-Kinetik. This may be what > you're thinking of. > http://www.penguin.co.uk ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately, then delete this e-mail. ********************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) >> OFF TOPIK , but VERY IMPORTANT !!! << sometin' about ICANN ( Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers ) & related stuff !!! Date: 29 Jun 2000 15:16:35 +0200 hi y' all ! fyi : the followin' info may look like if it's slightly off-topiK ;-) , but then again ... it's about an important development on the internet in the near future !!! on some of the lists i've send this 2 we jus' recently had or still have a *heated* discussion about the use & / or "abuse" of domain-names in general !!! so i suppose that it's maybe interestin' 4 some of u 2 read this & follow the below mentioned linx then !!! btw : this message is completely written in ( pigeon ;-) english simply because it's the language everybody on the internet & on the lists i've send this 2 understands well enough 2 get the info right & don't misinterprets somethin' ... hopefully !!! ;-) so let's get in2 the details now : 1.) somethin' about ICANN ( Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers ) in general : - please check out the followin' linx : ICANN homepage : www.icann.org choice registration : http://members.icann.org/join_now.htm ( only valid until the end of july this year !!! ) 2.) somethin' about what ICANN is goin' 2 be & their "NWO" ( New World Order ;-) 4 the internet in general : - their new administration 4 internet-addresses WORLDWIDE is takin' place in september of this year !!! i sincerely advice u 2 become a member & register @ the above mentioned address , simply because there is A VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION 4 THE FUTURE OF THE INTERNET takin' place very soon !!! u've got only time 2 become a member & register until the end of july this year !!! the ICANN candidates will be nominated in august & elected in september of this year !!! anyway ... IT'S YOUR CHOICE !!! so let's VOTE everybody ... be4 it's 2 late then !!! 3.) further linx that might be of interest 4 u : www.media-visions.com/icann.htm www.icannwatch.org/ www.iana.org/ ( Internet Assigned Numbers Authority , related 2 ICANN ) http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/icann-memorandum.htm ( MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND INTERNET CORPORATION FOR ASSIGNED NAMES AND NUMBERS ) http://www.thestandard.net/article/display/0,1151,8217,00.html ( Japan to U.S.: Hands off ICANN! ) well ... thanx a lot 4 payin' attention & 4 your time !!! yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) a.k.a. a variety of other "disguises" on some groups & lists out there !!! *G+* ;-) p. s. : if u have ANY QUESTIONS about this message & its content , please feel free 2 mail me privately under oh_jay@freenet.de !!! thanx again !!! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Elektro-Kinetik album Date: 29 Jun 2000 14:20:12 +0100 Richard Marston wrote: > I can't remember if there was > anything from the first KW album on 'Elektro-Kinetik', or just tracks from > '2' and 'R&F', as I got rid of it fairly soon afterwards. It beats me why no-one has thought to look at the Kraftwerk International Discography - you all know how to find the URL. ;-) > If you've got their early albums you don't need this compilation unless your > a sad completist IMHO. :-) Agreed. It's not one of the canonical works. :-) The latest version of the Kraftwerk FAQ is online, BTW. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: OT Laibach (was RE: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!)) Date: 29 Jun 2000 14:23:32 +0200 Jason Polland wrote: > Laibach is an obsolete country name, AFAIK Laibach is not obsolete. The band is from Ljubljnana in Slovenia. The town is "Laibach" in German, which is the second language in that country. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) kraftwerk.TV Date: 29 Jun 2000 14:24:30 +0200 Richard Marston wrote: >> "kraftwerk.TV can be registered immediately for $100*." > > I suppose it stands for Television and not the other kind of TV :-) Excuse my ignorance, but what's the other kind of TV? BTW, the domain tv comes from Tuvaru, a country located on the South Pacific Ocean, which sold it to some television companies. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Large" Subject: RE: (kw) kraftwerk.TV Date: 29 Jun 2000 13:40:13 GMT >Excuse my ignorance, but what's the other kind of TV? transvestite - one who feels more comfortable in the clothes of the opposite gender. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) (KW)Concert Classics question Date: 29 Jun 2000 17:15:14 +0200 (CEST) Thanks man... I had a hard time figuring out what they were saying, but it did sound funny.. Yours sincerelly Kaspar D. Larsen - currently sleeping, eating, drinikng and WERKing at Roskilde Festival 2000 ______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Få en gratis @yahoo.dk-adresse på http://mail.yahoo.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk: Danish appearance Date: 28 Jun 2000 09:48:09 +0200 Josef Gabler schrieb: > (...) > A Austrian Station broadcasted a coverversion of T. E. E. /Metal on > Metal/Abzug > over 35 minutes with long termed samples of EXPO2000. > Absolutely fine! Eeeh? An austrian station? Which was it? > After that - of course - > some excerpts of the coconuts CD. > More than one hour of Kraftwerk=B4s music! > > Great! Seems I missed that :-(. Did U tape it? Can you make a copy of it? Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- *-*-*- * "Wir sind die Roboter" + KRAFTWERK + http://www.kraftwerk.com * * EXPO 2000 + Mensch-Natur-Technik + http://www.expo2000.de * * * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) + ICQ: 53829477 * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ + phone/SMS: +436765621850 * *-*-*-* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: OT Laibach Date: 29 Jun 2000 18:12:57 +0200 Der Automat claimed: > [Laibach] is from Ljubljnana in Slovenia. The town is "Laibach" in Germ= an, which is the second language in that country. FYI Laibach hail from Trbovlje, Slovenia's second language is Serbo-Croat= ian (http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/si.html), and the name Lai= bach as alive as D=FCneburg, Dirschau, and Danzig. - Tous =E0 v=E9lo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: SV: (kw) Trademarks and domain names Date: 29 Jun 2000 16:02:22 +0200 >I thought that the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act is=20 >already in force since November 29th, 1999?=20 I read something on a web list that the law hasnt been enforced yet. = Nobody knows how to deal with it. glenn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dirk Boettcher Subject: (kw) The new kraftwerk media center? Date: 29 Jun 2000 22:03:17 +0200 Does anyone has ever visited 'The Kraftwerk Media Center' under the URL http://www.kraftwerk.webprovider.com/ This is NOT the Media Center with the RealVideo/-Audio stuff we all know and like!! You will see a start page and can select between the languages English and Espanol, but I never could reach the server behind, located in Argentinia. I asked the owner (Federico Louhau) and he told me that I am the second person who had ever such problems. This is what he told me to find on his page: > There's a lot of Kraftwerk stuff, such as pictures, videos and mp3's. > You can also subscribe to the Kraftwerk Media Center and automatically > receive news about Kraftwerk and, of course, the site itself. > You only have to go to the Mail section, and enter your e-mail address. Sound interesting, but is unreachable for me. Perhaps anyone of us who has no problems to reach the server can tell us if it is interesting. Dirk from Hamburg. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk: Danish appearance Date: 28 Jun 2000 09:48:09 +0200 Josef Gabler schrieb: > (...) > A Austrian Station broadcasted a coverversion of T. E. E. /Metal on > Metal/Abzug > over 35 minutes with long termed samples of EXPO2000. > Absolutely fine! Eeeh? An austrian station? Which was it? > After that - of course - > some excerpts of the coconuts CD. > More than one hour of Kraftwerk=B4s music! > > Great! Seems I missed that :-(. Did U tape it? Can you make a copy of it? Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -- *-*-*- * "Wir sind die Roboter" + KRAFTWERK + http://www.kraftwerk.com * * EXPO 2000 + Mensch-Natur-Technik + http://www.expo2000.de * * * * Georg Jajus (Vienna/Austria) + ICQ: 53829477 * * http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ + phone/SMS: +436765621850 * *-*-*-* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Elektro-Kinetik album Date: 29 Jun 2000 14:46:17 -0400 >>> Vertigo, part of PolyGram <<< PolyGram has ceased to exist as of 1998. It's now part of the Universal Music Group. In other words, "Never say the 'P' word!" :-) Lawd, do I hate media mega-mergers! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: darren Subject: (kw) expo 2000 remixes Date: 29 Jun 2000 18:23:36 -0400 just picked up a copy of expo 2000 remixes by Abe Duque. 3 tracks, best described as minimal tech-house... one of the tracks features a synthetic voice speaking "four hundred thousand marks.." that's funny. this record is not as classy as the original, but I dig it! I would love to hear other opinions on this one. darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Polland Subject: (kw) Updated FAQ Date: 29 Jun 2000 15:42:09 -0700 Kevin Busby wrote: >The latest version of the Kraftwerk FAQ is online, BTW. I noticed you updated the "What Kraftwerk videos have been made available to buy?" section, but you neglected to mention the UK "Expo 2000" CD-single which contains a QT video of the title track! Nevertheless, the FAQ continues to be very cool. ---Jason Polland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Karl Bartos News Date: 29 Jun 2000 22:41:06 -0400 Oh no!!! not again!!! Klaus, you're teasing us right? lol ;o) /home/lunarpark-1/Jim J. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 5:23 PM > > The same issue also has a small piece on Kraftwerk, who are, > according to an unnamed EMI spokesman, "currently in the studio, > working on new tracks"... > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Building sites Date: 29 Jun 2000 09:49:15 +0100 Jim Wickson wrote: > My URL in the last message should have read > http://communities.msn.com/ > kraftwerkelectronicdancemusiccommunity > I've tried several permutations, none of which get me anything other than a "404 not found" error. Please recheck? And use plain text, not HTML styled text, while you're at it - strange characters are being introduced (mind you, this is a suitable list for strange characters). Jim Wickson wrote: =20 > Whatever happened to this excellent source of information? Last time I > checked it's been offline for 6 months now. Are they refurbishing it? Has= it > been shut down due to a disapproval of Tim Barr's book? The site maintainer answered this one a little while ago: he ran out of tim= e and motivation to keep the site going. A shame, but very understandable. Klaus Zaepke wrote: > The album tracklisting on this website doesn't include the > "Radio-Activity" cover version anymore, which seems to confirm the > rumours that Florian Schneider disliked the idea of parodying such a > "serious" song. :-) Maybe they should ditch the daft "Stop Radioactivity" T-shirts too, then. O= r add a "ban gravity" cycle seat. (This is a semantic quibble, not a politica= l one). Wess wrote: >=20 > Kevin Busby wrote: >=20 >>> Einstuerzende Neubauten is a bunch of buildings >>=20 >> Neubauten is also an architectural style, nicht wahr? >=20 > "Neubauten" are in fact "new buildings". So "Einst=FCrzende Neubauten" can > be translated with "Tumbling new buildings" A number of people picked me up on this off-list. IIRC a few years back I read (yet another!) Net discussion about the band name, in which someone commented that it was also the name of an architectural movement - but I can't find any reference to it, so presumably I was misinformed or mistaken= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord" Subject: SV: (kw) Re: Elektro-Kinetik album Date: 30 Jun 2000 06:56:42 +0200 >PolyGram has ceased to exist as of 1998. It's now part of the Universal >Music Group. In other words, "Never say the 'P' word!" :-) Lawd, do I >hate media mega-mergers! Peace. So what do you say about the latest media merger? Yahoo just bought = eGroups, the largest mailing list service on the net. Only a few months = ago eGroups bought Onelist. According to the press release, Yahoo wants to be the only place on the = net you need to go for anything. Sounds alot like a case for the US = anti-trust office....... Glenn JMJ Fanclub Norway www.jmjfkn.com www.itsahit.com/jarreart www.folkvord.net/jarrestuff=20 www.folkvord.net/electronicshadows # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johannes Subject: Re: (kw) expo 2000 remixes Date: 30 Jun 2000 10:12:00 +0200 >Just make them available on the net and I'll gladly hear'em >:) //JOhannes > >I would love to hear other opinions on this one. >darren > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: [kraftwerkfans] Re: (kw) Org and Com and Net and ... etc. & Date: 30 Jun 2000 09:42:23 +0100 the new ROBOT voice ;-) wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ROBOT" > To: ""kwml"" ; > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 8:49 PM > Subject: Re: [kraftwerkfans] Re: (kw) Org and Com and Net and ... etc. & so > on !!! ;-) > > >> Sorry- it's hard to tell who wrote what. If Kevin Busby is the one making >> fun of me, he should know better. I wasn't making fun of anyone (other than teasing OJ, who, to his great credit, can always "take it" as well as "dish it out"!), but the subject of email style came up and, hardly surprisingly, the style of the "new" "robot" style reminded people of the "old" robot. If correspondents make a major feature out of eccentric writing styles, comment (for and against) those writing styles are to be expected. OJ's writing style and rather mischievous crossposting has, it seems, caused even further confusion than usual (compounded by the increasingly erratic performance of the Kraftwerk list's email server). I'm not annoyed, but I have to say, OJ, that for my own part I will be adding you to my killfile if you won't stop the stylistic posturing and start communicating in a clearer, more mature manner. I hope this blunt statement of opinion does not cause you offence, because I do appreciate much of what you post when I can be bothered to wade through the noise! I'm only attacking your ASCII characters, not your character. Feel free to forward this email to your egroup if you think it will help shed light - but I have had my say and won't comment further. Thanks, and sorry if I have been (or am) a bore! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) The new kraftwerk media center? Date: 30 Jun 2000 09:42:22 +0100 Dirk Boettcher wrote: > Does anyone has ever visited 'The Kraftwerk Media Center' under the URL > > http://www.kraftwerk.webprovider.com/ [...] > Sound interesting, but is unreachable for me. The META tags for that first page claim that "Kraftwerk Media Center is the best site on the net about this revolutionary band" - not if we can't reach it, it isn't! Jason Polland wrote: > you neglected to mention the UK "Expo 2000" Ah, well spotted, Jason. I overlooked this because I was daft enough to buy the German version! Thanks. Der Automat wrote: > Excuse my ignorance, but what's the other kind of TV? Godless preverts! (Just joking everyone, no, please...!). Kevin PS the new ROBOT voicewrote: > p. s. : fyi : on another interesting list i'm also known as MC Menace > Magician !!! *hehehe* ;-))) > what do you think fits me most then , eh ??? *G+* ;-) A straitjacket? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) The new kraftwerk media center ??? ... & micROBOT in Date: 30 Jun 2000 14:25:14 +0100 Oh Jay wrote: > " nobody in this whole wide world understands me !!! " *grim* :-/ > *micROBOT_walks_off_muttering_&_spluttering_over_&_over_again* ;-) Oh I feel I've been a right prig. You are incorrigible, so why should I try to "corrige" you? :-D I hope you make your piece with Mrs R. I overreacted because I felt a bit sorry for her upset. Er, "yo respect in da h00d"(?), or whatever it is you young (at heart) people say, for OJ aka MC Kraftmaster Krafty Kraft's eccentric (if demented) steadfastness and resolute cheerfulness, and I will be more tolerant of your asinine half-baked ramblings, because after all, you put up with mine, don't you? :-)^:-) (smile raised to the power of smile - damn, am I catching the disease?). > i'm out ... for now !!! ;-) Not due to me, I hope - if so, please email me offlist and I'll grovel further! Best to everyone, Kevin Walton's Mountain, June 2000 Ah... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Huetter/Schneider vs. Fluer Date: 30 Jun 2000 16:53:12 +0200 The session of the Hamburg State Court (Landgericht Hamburg), which was scheduled originally for today, has been postponed, probably until September. Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Oskar Sala (OT) Date: 30 Jun 2000 16:53:11 +0200 Just for the calendar & if someone is interested to listen to: On Thursday, July 18, about 14.40 MESZ, Deutschlandradio Berlin will send a 15-minute-feature entitled "Musiker und Techniker - Oskar Salas Leben fuer sein Trautonium". For frequencies see http://www.dradio.de/cgi-bin/user/fm1004/es/neu-freq-listb/ Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) OHM Date: 30 Jun 2000 19:25:13 +0100 I've just bought the three CD set 'OHM' early pioneers of electronic music. It's fab and although I'm familiar with much of it (my dissertation was entitled 'The role of technology in modern music 1860 to the present day') I'd never actually thought of Pierre Schaeffer's 'Etude aux chemins de fer' in terms of it's lineage to KW's 'Trans Europe Express' -The rhythm of the train noise bears more than a passing resemblance. Heartily recommended for those with a serious interest in EM (especially as we wait for KW to raise themselves from their lethargy) Paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk has sued me (Follow up!) >> my reply trilogy - part 3 << *G+* ;-) Date: 30 Jun 2000 22:32:53 +0200 On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:03:03 +0200, Rick Jansen wrote: >"Im Nachtklub trinkt sie immer Sekt, corect"? Well, I even prefer to read german that poor English acronyms. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: (kw) KW in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?? Date: 30 Jun 2000 16:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Kraftwerk is one of the 31 semi-finalists for the class of 2001... More info at http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/lc/20000625/en/aerosmith_ac_dc_among_rock_hall_of_fame_semi-finalists_1.html ===== Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) KW in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?? Date: 30 Jun 2000 21:02:40 -0400 Unfortunately, I'd be willing to bet Kraftwerk doesn't make it this time... too many "heavy-weight" cough cough ahem... ummm American performers.. Personally, I think the R-N-R hall of fame is a bit of a crock... These are the same folks who generally possess prejudice against primarily electronic-based musics... at least thats what I've gathered from reading posts on their message board at their web site a while back.. /home/lunarpark-1/Jim J. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:52 PM > > > Kraftwerk is one of the 31 semi-finalists for the > class of 2001... More info at http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/lc/20000625/en/aerosmith_ac_dc_among_rock_hall_ of_fame_semi-finalists_1.html > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Building sites - complete? Date: 30 Jun 2000 09:42:22 +0100 You'll have seen the first half of this email, but it seems the listserv at= e the second half, so here's a repost! -------------------- Jim Wickson wrote: > My URL in the last message should have read > http://communities.msn.com/ > kraftwerkelectronicdancemusiccommunity > I've tried several permutations, none of which get me anything other than a "404 not found" error. Please recheck? And use plain text, not HTML styled text, while you're at it - strange characters are being introduced (mind you, this is a suitable list for strange characters). Jim Wickson wrote: =20 > Whatever happened to this excellent source of information? Last time I > checked it's been offline for 6 months now. Are they refurbishing it? Has= it > been shut down due to a disapproval of Tim Barr's book? The site maintainer answered this one a little while ago: he ran out of tim= e and motivation to keep the site going. A shame, but very understandable. Klaus Zaepke wrote: > The album tracklisting on this website doesn't include the > "Radio-Activity" cover version anymore, which seems to confirm the > rumours that Florian Schneider disliked the idea of parodying such a > "serious" song. :-) Maybe they should ditch the daft "Stop Radioactivity" T-shirts too, then. O= r add a "ban gravity" cycle seat. (This is a semantic quibble, not a politica= l one). Wess wrote: >=20 > Kevin Busby wrote: >=20 >>> Einstuerzende Neubauten is a bunch of buildings >>=20 >> Neubauten is also an architectural style, nicht wahr? >=20 > "Neubauten" are in fact "new buildings". So "Einst=FCrzende Neubauten" can > be translated with "Tumbling new buildings" A number of people picked me up on this off-list. IIRC a few years back I read (yet another!) Net discussion about the band name, in which someone commented that it was also the name of an architectural movement - but I can't find any reference to it, so presumably I was misinformed or mistaken= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/