From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Month in Copenhagen Date: 03 May 2001 18:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Well sort of anyway. On May 9th, Senor Coconut will perform in Vega at 9 PM. Tickets: 100,- d.kr. On May 18th, Karl Bartos will perform, alongside Mobile Homes, some Krafgtwerk classics in their original form. The concert is scheduled to start at 9 PM. tickets: 135,- d.kr. ______________________________________________________ Går mail for langsomt for dig? Så prøv Yahoo! Messenger - her kan du i løbet af få sekunder udveksle beskeder med de venner, der er online. Messenger finder du på adressen: http://dk.messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stefan Norman Subject: (kw) Papa Dee covers The Model (fwd) Date: 03 May 2001 21:30:39 +0200 Swedish Reagge/Ska/Ragga artist Papa Dee does an ska(!) cover of The Model on his latest album "The Man Who Couldn?t Say No" A short sample can be found here: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) The Robots (1978) promo video Date: 03 May 2001 23:19:59 +0100 Hi, The Robots (1978) promo video has been uploaded to Tour De Kraft. Dig those black tie's with LED's.... enjoy, Mike. Tour De Kraft - Kraftwerk in Motion. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOF Subject: Re: (kw) The Robots (1978) promo video Date: 04 May 2001 04:29:17 +0200 >Hi, > >The Robots (1978) promo video has been uploaded to >Tour De Kraft. Dig those black tie's with LED's.... > >enjoy, > >Mike. >Tour De Kraft - Kraftwerk in Motion. >http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm Thanks for all the movies. The dancing at the end of showroom dummies is fantastic and can change your view on kw! I=B4d also like to thank everybody who has suggested other artists while we are waiting... This really makes being on the list worthwhile. I=B4ve especially liked Boards of Canada and some of Anthony Rothers songs. As a norwegian I would recommend "Subgud" to the list, their cd "Magnet" has to be some of the better music made in Norway, which might not mean much, but... For starters try the song "Mentalika" with samples from "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash. I guess most of you are familiar with the one man group "Biosphere" which is also very good. Jan Ove -- http://homepage.mac.com/chelseafc/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut remixes Air Date: 04 May 2001 16:37:27 +0200 Senor Coconut has just remixed Air's hit "Radio number one (rhumba mambo chachacha)". Original version of the song is included on the Air's new album "Ten thousand half legends", to be released in the end of May. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk links list updated Date: 04 May 2001 20:41:45 +0100 I finally got round to doing some reformatting of my Kraftwerk Link list. I hope this will make the list even easier to use, and a little prettier to look at (though I need to do some more work in that direction). http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/links/ As always, this is a work in progress, so any little faults in this version will be fixed next time round. :-) I hope you enjoy this index to Kraftwerk. It's interesting (I think) to note that Web pages about Kraftwerk are available in 15 languages. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Uberfetus Subject: Re: (kw) Senor Coconut remixes Air Date: 04 May 2001 17:17:07 -0400 > Senor Coconut has just remixed Air's hit "Radio number one (rhumba mambo > chachacha)". > Original version of the song is included on the Air's new album "Ten > thousand > half legends", to be released in the end of May. The album 10,000 Hz Legend is really excellent - better than Moon Safari. Go out and get a copy as soon as it's released. I can't listen to the track "Electronic Performers" without thinking of Kraftwerk. -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ola Andersson Subject: (kw) More Kraftwerk rumours Date: 06 May 2001 18:10:54 +0200 The management of Tech Noir, a Synth club in Sweden, has been contacted by EMI regarding a releaseparty for a new Kraftwerk album. -- Ola Andersson Research Engineer Department of Phonetics Umea University # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: RE: (kw) More Kraftwerk rumours Date: 06 May 2001 12:51:41 -0400 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com >>[mailto:owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ola Andersson >>Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:11 PM >>To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com >>Subject: (kw) More Kraftwerk rumours >> >> >> >>The management of Tech Noir, a Synth club in Sweden, has been=20 >>contacted by=20 >>EMI regarding a releaseparty for a new Kraftwerk album. >> This is starting to sound more promising!!!!! :-) *g*=20 Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: Re: (kw) More Kraftwerk rumours Date: 06 May 2001 19:20:52 +0200 Have you got this info directly from the management or what is your source? Thanks Gunnar Ola Andersson wrote: > > The management of Tech Noir, a Synth club in Sweden, has been contacted by > EMI regarding a releaseparty for a new Kraftwerk album. -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://mp3.de/home/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) The Kraftwerk Influence updated Date: 07 May 2001 00:04:31 -0600 (MDT) I've just completed a major update of my Kraftwerk fan site. I've incorporated all the suggestions that have been sent to me by viewers over the geological era since the last update. Thanks to everyone who contributed! I still have some more minor updates to add, but they will be done gradually when I have time. I start my MSc project work tomorrow so there's no telling when the next update will happen. Due to a reorganization of the rest of my home page, the URL has changed to: http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs/creative/kraftwerk/index.html The old URL will get you a page saying the URL has changed. :) (I tried to hide the redirection using symlinks and CSS tricks, but Netscape 4.7x apparently has some major bugs that make it impossible to hide the fact that a page using style sheets has moved. Sorry for the botheration for people who will have to update links.) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) More Kraftwerk rumours Date: 07 May 2001 21:39:37 +0200 Hmm.. well, Expo2000 was on Swedish radio before it's actual release, so who knows, maybe there are some nordic Kraftwerk-links these days. It would not be the first time a release party is held outside of Germany, The release of The Man Machine was in Paris and NYC, TEE on the train from Dusseldorf to Paris. Although the Swedish connection escapes me so far. But, if the management makes it public they have been contacted, it might very well be they lost it that same instance. Rick Jansen > The management of Tech Noir, a Synth club in Sweden, has been contacted by > EMI regarding a releaseparty for a new Kraftwerk album. -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Johnson Subject: (kw) Rammstein vs. Kraftwerk Date: 07 May 2001 13:27:38 -0700 In this months Tower Records (USA) in house magazine "Pulse!" (May 2001) there is a cover story on the German band Rammstein. In it (page 83) is a sidebar that mentions Kraftwerk. I excerpt the appropriate section below, for your enjoyment... "Sour Krautrock? All of the German bands are not united "Germany may be reunified, but at least in Rammstein's view, there's not a great deal of kinship between East and West German rock bands. "The thing with West German bands was that most of them were pretty much influenced by American Music," says guitarist Richard Kruspe. "And that's the reason, I guess, there wasn't so many West German bands that were really exciting for us." "Kruspe says the band members were all too young to really be into Can or Kraftwerk, though they did record a cover of "The Model" that reportedly displeased the latter band. "It was very controversial," says singer Till Lindemann. "Kraftwerk wanted to have it forbidden, you know, not to be played. They don't like for people to use their songs. And if you decide to cover them at all, then it has to be exacely the way they performed; you can't have any artistic freedom. And they claimed we were using a new bassline. They simply didn't want it." ""And," Lindemann adds, they don't like Rammstein either." Why not? "I don't know. Matter of taste. A lot of people don't like Rammstein in Germany." The sidebar goes on to state that Rammstein got along better with KMFDM. They have mixed feelings about Einsturzende Neubauten - appreciating the way they keep true to their German roots, but referring to their music as "depressing." For Rammstein to make it to the cover of a more "Mainstream" american music mag is...interesting. -KJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) Rammstein vs. Kraftwerk Date: 07 May 2001 16:33:49 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 7 May 2001, Keith Johnson wrote: > "Kruspe says the band members were all too young to really be into Can or > Kraftwerk, though > they did record a cover of "The Model" that reportedly displeased the latter > band. Yes...no doubt because it sucked! I like Rammstein but that track is possibly the worst song they've released. * * * * * * * * * * John Morgan "A book, a symphony, a poem, is not merely Student Services, another 'experience' but a mystery, a wind The University of Michigan blowing from the future. The mind contem- LS&A Honors Program plates vistas of time, the emptiness of space, and knows that the 'ordinariness' of everyday life is an illusion." --Colin Wilson http://www.umich.edu/~jbmorgan including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Montage Date: 07 May 2001 23:03:34 +0100 Have you seen those pictures that are made up of loads of smaller pictures? Yes? No? Maybe? Perhaps? Well, I've created a couple of Kraftwerk Montages using loads of Kraftwerk Pictures... take a look via the site www.keepwerking.co.uk and you'll find them on the 'OPTICAL' pages. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) updated my site Date: 09 May 2001 09:51:13 My Kraftwerksite is updated with more pics and a translation of the Radioaktivität coveranalys (maybe not in correct english but anyway...) /Andréas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "richard marston" Subject: (kw) Release Party Date: 09 May 2001 13:12:37 -0000 Ola Andersson wrote: "The management of Tech Noir, a Synth club in Sweden, has been contacted by EMI regarding a releaseparty for a new Kraftwerk album." Yes, but why in Sweden? Why not Germany -- or Detroit? ;-) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: (kw) ...and the adress issss.... Date: 09 May 2001 15:19:11 ..to my updated site.. www.hff.gu.se/student/andreas_h/kraftwerk.html sorry for the delay of the adress... /Andréas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut Date: 09 May 2001 16:19:07 +0200 Senor Coconut CD albums are available for downloading at http://www.cdnow.com. $1.49 each song. Thursday 17th May 2001 22:30 local hour Sr. Coconut y su Conjunto at Sala Arena in Madrid. I've already got my ticket! See you there. Saturday 19th May 2001 22:15 local hour Sr. Coconut y su Conjunto at La Paloma disco in Barcelona. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Rammstein Date: 09 May 2001 16:19:47 +0200 Westbam recent remix of Rammstein's "Links (Techno electro mix)" has been reviewed as the robotic pulse of Kraftwerk throwing itself at Rammstein's obscure sounds. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Electribe 101 Date: 09 May 2001 17:56:36 +0200 Second solo album by ex-Electribe 101 Billie Ray Martin, "18 Carat Garbage", has been released on May 7th via her own Sonnenstahl Records label that described it as "Bluegrass drum'n'bass, Kraftwerk meets Spector". http://www.billieraymartin.com DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lemmens Geert Subject: (kw) Radio Nova Date: 09 May 2001 13:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Does anybody know were I can download (or maybe someone could mail it to me) the jingle Kraftwerk made for the Radio Nova? thx, Geert ===== http://dertaschenrechner.tux.nu "The Angels said it is God's creation. The Gods said it was a strange coincidence." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Radio Nova Date: 09 May 2001 23:14:51 +0200 Lemmens Geert asked : > Does anybody know were I can download (or maybe > someone could mail it to me) the jingle Kraftwerk made > for the Radio Nova? well ... u can find both versions here : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kraftwerkfans/files/ , but ... u have to be a member of this group to access the files section !!! ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* > "The Angels said it is God's creation. > The Gods said it was a strange coincidence." "nacht der goetter" by anthony rother ... ( once again ;-) ..::=||X||=::.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk GmbH und Co KG Date: 10 May 2001 09:43:37 +0200 Kraftwerk GmbH und Co KG http://www.kraftwerk.at KRAFTWERK Maria - Theresia - Strasse 49 A-4600 WELS Tel. 0043 7242 69269 - 0 Fax. 0043 7242 69269 - 9 Email.: office@kraftwerk.at DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) 3 Senor Coconut live realvideos Date: 11 May 2001 00:29:31 +0000 http://www.intro.de/index.php3?nav=42&con=/audiovideo/video/coconut& # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord [Hyperion Media]" Subject: (kw) ES #11 Date: 11 May 2001 03:30:38 +0200 Hello, You may want to check out the new release of http://www.electronicshadows.com as it features small articles about related artists; Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Jarre, Vangelis..... And stuff about Karl Bartos too Best whishes, Glenn Editor @ http://www.electronicshadows.com Editor @ http://www.jmjfkn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 11 May 2001 17:29:38 +0200 According to a Spanish radio programme and its web site: The eagerly awaited new album from Kraftwerk is delayed until September. EMI has argued problems with the artwork of the disc. http://www.plasticosydecibelios.com DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) T-shirts & caps Date: 11 May 2001 13:14:32 +0200 http://www.kraftwerk.cc The .CC Store Welcome to the eNIC.cc Online Store! Support the mega popular dot-cc TLD and look great at the same time. Choose your style from our various hats and T's. Everything is currently on sale, so get yours today! eNIC Logo T-Shirts All cotton eNIC Logo T-shirts in a variety of colors. Printed on front, back and sleeve. Keep the rain off with our cool.CC adjustable fitted cotton baseball caps. Show your support for the alternative TLD with our stylish, durable 100% cotton .CC T-shirts. Available in large and extra-large and in a variety of colors. d:-) DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Album delay Date: 11 May 2001 18:38:47 +0100 When we get to September, it will be delayed until December..... Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: Re: (kw) Album delay Date: 11 May 2001 20:38:52 +0200 This "album" has always been delayed since 1992, hasn't it? Why shouldn't things go on this way in the future? So'n Hals! >:-( Gunnar Robert Evans wrote: > > When we get to September, it will be delayed until December..... > > Rob. > _________________________________________________________________________ -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://mp3.de/home/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 11 May 2001 22:27:54 +0200 Der Automat wrote: > > According to a Spanish radio programme and its web site: > The eagerly awaited new album from Kraftwerk is delayed until September. EMI > has argued problems with the artwork of the disc. > http://www.plasticosydecibelios.com Ah, yes, this *must* be a very reliable source, that same web page appears to invite us to vote wether "Moby is a sexual pervert" too. Very creditable indeed. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jzurdo" Subject: (kw) Creditable Date: 05 May 2001 04:36:06 +0200 Hi.- Personally i think this source is creditable enough. The progamme which Der Automat talked about is conducted by a very respected spanish producer,Julian Ruiz,this man has been around the musical bussines for many years and has produced most of the technopop spanish artists like Azul y Negro and Tino Casal. I understand all of you are desapointed,like me,i think that album will never see the laser of a compact disc player. Kraftwerk have a lot of to loose and nothing to win,that is the point. But... who knows...,we have been waiting for a long time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) Fw: ( OT for some , but oh jay for all !!! *G+* ;-) >> vision park 2001 LIVE-stream !!! << ;-) Date: 12 May 2001 17:42:12 +0200 hi y' all ! fyi : if u r interested in listenin' to some techno , house , electro & drum 'n' bass tunes >> LIVE !!! << on the internet , then check out http://www.jointventureradio.net !!! ;-) ( ONLY_TODAY : LIVE-stream of the vision park 2001 festival in bremen / germany !!! ;-) "turn on ... tune in ... & freak out !!!" ;-) stay tuned , fellows !!! *BWG* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay a.k.a. dj doc jones ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fecalfunhole Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Montage Date: 13 May 2001 07:41:47 -0400 Wow, those are really great! Thanks for allowing us access to your work. .b > Have you seen those pictures that are made up of loads of smaller pictures? > > Yes? No? Maybe? Perhaps? > > Well, I've created a couple of Kraftwerk Montages using loads of Kraftwerk > Pictures... take a look via the site www.keepwerking.co.uk and you'll find > them on the 'OPTICAL' pages. > > Keep Werking > John > www.keepwerking.co.uk FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 14 May 2001 12:49:10 +0200 > According to a Spanish radio programme and its web site: > The eagerly awaited new album from Kraftwerk is delayed until September. EMI > has argued problems with the artwork of the disc. The direct link is http://www.plasticosydecibelios.jumpy.es/noticias/p_noticias.php3?noti=1758 DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 15 May 2001 8:39:36 +0200 And here's a babelfish translation, I wonder what this mysterious cover looks like, must be something really wicked if they postpone the release for it=2E=2E=2E =20= the awaited album of Kraftwerk is delayed until September EMI has argued=20= problems with the cover that will take launching 10/05/01 The launching of=20= esperad=EDsimo new album of Kraftwerk, that at first was programmed for the=20= next month of July, has become to delay until September=2E According to it has=20= been able to know in primicia Plastic and Decibels, EMI points like reason=20= for this new delay the existence of problems with the cover that will=20= illustrate the album=2E Although the news of a delay of this type at the time=20= of speaking of Kraftwerk is not far from it new, in this case the company=20= already had even the masters finished of all and each one of the pieces that=20= will go in the disc=2E This one are without a doubt the circumstance that=20= changes the things, dices the historical distrusts of the German quartet at=20= the time of giving by closed and definitive anyone of its recordings=2E The=20= last album with new subjects of Kraftwerk is Electric Cafe, that dates from=20= 1986=2E In 1991 they published The Mix, recopilatorio to the use with subjects=20= remezclados and published again taking advantage of the conversion its study=20= of sound to digital formats=2E In 2000 they published several remezclas of?Expo=20= 2000, its first unpublished one in years, done by order of the Universal=20= Exhibition of Hannover=2E=20= ---------- Sent: m=E5ndag 14 maj 2001 18=2E31 <> > According to a Spanish radio programme and its web site: > The eagerly awaited new album from Kraftwerk is delayed until September=2E EMI > has argued problems with the artwork of the disc=2E The direct link is http://www=2Eplasticosydecibelios=2Ejumpy=2Ees/noticias/p_noticias=2Ephp3?noti=3D= 1758 DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom=2E # To post, email kraftwerk@lists=2Exmission=2Ecom; replies go to original sender=2E # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web=2Ebham=2Eac=2Euk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FA= Q/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 15 May 2001 10:59:08 +0100 johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: > I wonder what this mysterious cover looks like, must be something really > wicked if they postpone the release for it... Maybe the art department just screwed up on a minor detail. "No! I told you. Wolfgang is no longer with us!". KB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emtoivon@mail.student.oulu.fi Subject: (kw) Date: 15 May 2001 14:11:30 +0300 (EET DST) did anyone see the 'Polarprisutdelningen' on SVT2 yesterday (it started approximately at 23:50 cet)? there were Bartos on it, but I missed it.. emma. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: Re: (kw) polar music prize / bartos Date: 15 May 2001 04:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Yes, Karl Bartos was there, reading the jury motivation for giving the prize to Stockhausen. The price was then presented to stockhausen by the swedish king. But that was it for Bartos. Stockhausen performed "Gesang der Jünglinge", on the other hand. Manfred Mann was also there, playing his moogs to celebrate that Robert Moog also was awarded with a prize. More at www.polarmusicprize.com Petter http://www.fatbankroll.nu/ --- emtoivon@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: > did anyone see the 'Polarprisutdelningen' on SVT2 > yesterday (it started > approximately at 23:50 cet)? there were Bartos on > it, but I missed it.. > > emma. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) BP Kraftwerk Date: 15 May 2001 13:28:23 -0000 Hi, if anybody in UK goes through Ongar till end July, pop into the BP on the roundabout, when I (Matt) am on shift I make a point of playing Kraftwerk all the time, and get positive remarks as well - have a KW party while you pump your car! Matt _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 15 May 2001 16:00:45 +0200 > johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: > > > I wonder what this mysterious cover looks like, must be something really > > wicked if they postpone the release for it... > > Maybe the art department just screwed up on a minor detail. > > "No! I told you. Wolfgang is no longer with us!". > > KB *LOL* ;-))) erm ... okay now , seriously ...afaik the cover artwork will be indeed "a work of art" & it's more than jus' the usual cd "jewel case" or paperback !!! ;-) it also seems to be true that ALL the recorded songs are mastered & finished for release by now !!! ;-) so let's hope that ralf is "convinced" of the quality of their "kling klang produkt" ... & will not delay its release for similar reasons like in 1983 with their ominous "techno-pop" album !!! :-/ however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: (kw) RE: Invasion of scorpions Date: 15 May 2001 15:12:01 +0100 Hi Matt Just curious, do you still have scorpions living at the tube station there in Ongar? Shaun Hi, if anybody in UK goes through Ongar till end July, pop into the BP on the roundabout, when I (Matt) am on shift I make a point of playing Kraftwerk all the time, and get positive remarks as well - have a KW party while you pump your car! Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 15 May 2001 16:36:46 +0200 4nd H0W 3x4c+ly d0 y0u kn0w +h1z? erm =2E=2E=2E okay now , seriously =2E=2E=2Eafaik the cover artwork will be indee= d "a work of art" & it's more than jus' the usual cd "jewel case" or paperback !!! ;-) it also seems to be true that ALL the recorded songs are mastered & finished for release by now !!! ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 15 May 2001 16:49:38 +0200 Kevin Busby wrote: > > johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: > > > I wonder what this mysterious cover looks like, must be something really > > wicked if they postpone the release for it... > > Maybe the art department just screwed up on a minor detail. > > "No! I told you. Wolfgang is no longer with us!". Or maybe a robot's pubic hair was visible in the cover photo. Can't have improperly waxed robots on the cover, of course. Rick Jansen __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ S&H's a module and s&h's looking good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 15 May 2001 18:13:11 +0200 Rick Jansen wrote: > > http://www.plasticosydecibelios.com > > Ah, yes, this *must* be a very reliable source, that same web page > appears to invite us to vote wether "Moby is a sexual pervert" too. > Very creditable indeed. I don't consider this as a reliable source either, but it's the only one I hear this news from, however. Jzurdo wrote: >Personally i think this source is creditable enough. >The progamme which Der Automat talked about is conducted by a very >respected spanish producer,Julian Ruiz Thank you for your support, Jose Antonio, but I think Julian Ruiz WAS a very respected Spanish producer years ago but nowadays he becomes almost "obsolete". I think he takes the information from NME. His programme (along with his webpage) is only dedicated to the mainstream music, what is really disappointing. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fabien Stoffel" Subject: (kw) Das Boot Date: 15 May 2001 21:36:29 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0DD87.1A6935C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey,=20 this becomes more and more funnier... looking around on Napster, i've found that "Das Boot" now also became a = Kraftwerk Track! Happy wrongbanindicating everybody, Fabien ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0DD87.1A6935C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
this becomes more and more = funnier...
looking around on Napster, i've found = that "Das=20 Boot" now also became a Kraftwerk Track!
 
Happy wrongbanindicating = everybody,
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------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0DD87.1A6935C0-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: Re: (kw) polar music prize / bartos Date: 15 May 2001 21:29:21 +0200 Petter skrev: > Yes, Karl Bartos was there, reading the jury motivation for giving the = prize to Stockhausen. There was a taped bit with Fl=FCr too (at least in the 16:30 broadcast), = in the segment explaning what 'a Moog' actually was... -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jzurdo" Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kraftwerk=B4s_info_sources.?= Date: 09 May 2001 00:06:18 +0200 Hi: I don´t hear his programme,but if he is in touch with the industry he could give info from good sources... And,by the way,i prefer obsolete producers,like him,than the new ones,i still enjoy the taste of his productions. Most of the programmes on public radio,these days, have a lot to do with the mainstream music,they have to survive,and i think the fault comes from the listeners. > > > Thank you for your support, Jose Antonio, but I think > > > Julian Ruiz WAS a very respected Spanish producer years ago but nowadays > > he > > > becomes almost "obsolete". I think he takes the information from NME. His > > > programme (along with his webpage) is only dedicated to the mainstream > > > music, what is > > > really disappointing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sigurd@gulliksrud.com Subject: (kw) Webring (Yahoo) Date: 15 May 2001 17:13:19 -0700 Does anyone know how the "ring-leader" of the good old Krafwerk webring can be reached? His email address (thomas@fwf-media.com) is apparently not existing anymore.. Sigurd. Sigurd Gulliksrud sigurd@gulliksrud.com / www.gulliksrud.com +1 (510) 5490518 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Wickson" Subject: (kw) kw)Re: Webring (Yahoo) Date: 15 May 2001 22:29:32 -0700 That's a good question. For a while now, I've thought that this old WebRing was dead. This belief led me to create a new KW Webring "The Man Machine WebRing." As my site was recently admitted to the older one and because I've noticed the founder or someone else updated it and deleted the 404 links, I must conclude it's still active. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Webring (Yahoo) Date: 16 May 2001 11:11:46 +0100 sigurd@gulliksrud.com wrote: > > Does anyone know how the "ring-leader" of the good old Krafwerk webring > can be reached? His email address (thomas@fwf-media.com) is apparently > not existing anymore.. Thomas's new site is http://www.smart-script.com/kraftwerk/ . I corresponded with him briefly in March (just to update some links), but when I asked about the web ring, I didn't get a reply, so I don't think he is now maintaining it. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 16 May 2001 11:11:46 +0100 Fabien Stoffel wrote: > Hey, > this becomes more and more funnier... > looking around on Napster, i've found that "Das Boot" now also became a > Kraftwerk Track! While Wolfgang Fluer was in his "wilderness years" between Kraftwerk and Yamo, there was a rumour going about that he composed this track. There were plenty of other rumours too, as you might expect! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 16 May 2001 11:35:25 +0100 More "elegance and decadence" required in the artwork!!!! Positive vibes in the digest at the moment, I expect nothing less than a masterpiece, and that goes for the cover of the album as well!! Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: Re: (kw) Date: 16 May 2001 11:12:46 I´ve got it on video... Bartos very nervous praising Stockhausen.. It was very touching... /Andréas ----Original Message Follows---- did anyone see the 'Polarprisutdelningen' on SVT2 yesterday (it started approximately at 23:50 cet)? there were Bartos on it, but I missed it.. emma. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 16 May 2001 13:32:55 +0200 > Fabien Stoffel wrote: > > > Hey, > > this becomes more and more funnier... > > looking around on Napster, i've found that "Das Boot" now also became a > > Kraftwerk Track! > > While Wolfgang Fluer was in his "wilderness years" between Kraftwerk and > Yamo, there was a rumour going about that he composed this track. There were > plenty of other rumours too, as you might expect! > > Kevin well ... to me it sounds more like karl was the "composer" of this wreck ... erm ... track ... & not dear ol' wolfi !!! *G+* ;-) but i suppose that we all know by now that it wasn't neither of them nor kw itself !!! ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Das Boot Date: 16 May 2001 17:54:38 +0100 Oh Jay wrote: > but i suppose that we all know by now that it wasn't neither of them nor kw > itself !!! ;-) Yes indeed. It was just one of the silly rumours around at the time. I mentioned it only to suggest why the Boot MP3 (Boot boot?) might have been attributed to Kraftwerk. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: RE: (kw) RE: Kraftwerk new album delayed Date: 16 May 2001 18:59:47 -0400 >>erm ... okay now , seriously ...afaik the cover artwork will be indeed = "a >>work of art" & it's more than jus' the usual cd "jewel case" or = paperback >>!!! ;-) >>it also seems to be true that ALL the recorded songs are=20 >>mastered & finished >>for release by now !!! ;-) Well.. my God I hope cause it's been how many years now?!?!?!?! I've got = an old KW video and it has a short interview with Florian and he said = years ago they were werk'in on a new CD!!!! Shees..... it should be = perfect by now!! *LOL*=20 >>so let's hope that ralf is "convinced" of the quality of their=20 >>"kling klang >>produkt" ... & will not delay its release for similar reasons=20 >>like in 1983 >>with their ominous "techno-pop" album !!! :-/ Yeah really!!! All though from a technical point of view "Electric = Caf=E9 was really great!!! However... I still like the music too!! ;-)=20 Many KW greet'ins=20 Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Montages Revisted Date: 17 May 2001 23:13:18 +0100 Hello, Thank you to all those who commented on my Kraftwerk Montages. You know, those pictures made up of loads of smaller 'micro' pictures. Well, I've taken comments on board and have re-created them. The results now have less plain colour 'micro' images. I've also created a couple more (of the same pictures) but have used other 'micro' images in place of Kraftwerk ones. The result is a higher quality Montage but, alas, a little less Kraftwerk. Just pop along to the OPTICAL page of my site and see for yourself. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Callau_Mu=F1oz=2C_Oscar=22?= Subject: (kw) Florian Schneider in Barcelona tomorrow??? Date: 18 May 2001 10:29:37 +0200 According to El Peri=F3dico de Catalunya, Uwe Schmidt says that "it's = possible that Florian Schneider will be at the Se=F1or Coconut concert tomorrow saturday in La Paloma, Barcelona"... Let's hope so!! Oscar Callau Journalist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: FW: (kw) Florian Schneider in Barcelona tomorrow??? Date: 18 May 2001 23:57:28 -0400 Well I hope someone from this list will be there and ASK HIM=20 ABOUT THE NEW MATERIAL RUMOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So we can=20 finally know the truth straight from the MAN himself!!!!!! :-)=20 Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac >According to El Peri=F3dico de Catalunya, Uwe Schmidt says that=20 >"it's possible >that Florian Schneider will be at the Se=F1or Coconut concert tomorrow >saturday in La Paloma, Barcelona"... >Let's hope so!! >Oscar Callau >Journalist >>>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Dieffenbach Subject: (kw) Any other of you robots like 311? Date: 19 May 2001 00:24:56 -0500 Check out this picture I found while searching for pictures of the Hard Rock Reggae Funk band, 311: http://www.angelfire.com/music/slinky311/details.jpg I don't think it's doctors... I was fortunate to find it, because I can't find it anywhere else. Andrew Dieffenbach # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) on "rumors" & other "stuff" ;-) Date: 19 May 2001 12:47:34 +0200 hi kwf's ! a good friend of mine once said : "Expect too much, and you will always be disappointed; expect little, expect nothing, and you may get just that, or more, and remain just a little content at something, but expect a little, and get more, may bring some enjoyment." - C. L. bear this in mind ... for the time to come ( until sept. ) !!! ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Florian Schneider in Barcelona tomorrow??? Date: 19 May 2001 12:57:32 +0200 my mate "cee cee" ( a.k.a. Christian Claycomb ;-) wrote : > Well I hope someone from this list will be there and ASK HIM > ABOUT THE NEW MATERIAL RUMOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > So we can finally know the truth straight from the MAN himself!!!!!! :-) well ... not a bad idea in itself , but ... if i may take a guess at what florian then would say to u , i suppose that it would be somethin' like this : "hmmm ... have u heard this rumors from one of the guys at emi ??? well ... u better ask ralf about it , because he's mr. KraftwerK !!!" *LOL* ;-))) yeah , florian is still "a really smart(a**) guy" ... imho !!! *XLG* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: (kw) Anthony Rother in the mix Date: 19 May 2001 23:47:35 +0200 The current issue of 2STEP features Anthony Rother. He plays a lot of Electro stuff and a track which is well known to us: "Numbers - Computer World 2" from 1981 Kraftwerk album "Computerworld". He gives some additional delay- and pitch shift-effects to it. Quite cool ;-) 2STEP at VIVA ZWEI, Sunday, May 20th, 4.00am and 7.00pm CEST Gunnar -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://mp3.de/home/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Report from KB@KB Date: 20 May 2001 14:37:30 +0200 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E129.A26F8460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Just a brief report from the Karl Bartos concert last night at KB in = Malm=F6, Sweden. One and a half hour of brilliant music, with 3 Bartos-solo songs and = the rest with good-old Kraftwerk songs. I really must say that my expectations wasn't high, after hearing some = MP3 bootlegs from concerts last year, but the sound quality was really = good, the song selection was great and the interpretations were super. Some songs was faithful to the album versions, but some was new and up = to date. I really loved Pocket Calculator (non-mix version), The Man = Machine (=E1 la KW@Roskilde), Telephone Call (great bass line) and Techno Pop = (lovely as always)- tight, bright and with awesome sound. His solo songs (TV, Young Urban Professionals and 15 Minutes of Fame) = worked really good live and especially 15 Minutes of Fame - which was played = twice - as an encore "to hammer this song into your minds". The second encore (The Model) was played by a really happy band, you = could tell they were enjoying the situation! If you'd like to hear some Kraftwerk songs live this year, visit a KB concert near you! /Joakim ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E129.A26F8460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Hi!

Just a brief report from the = Karl Bartos=20 concert last night at KB in Malm=F6, Sweden.

One and a half hour = of=20 brilliant music, with 3 Bartos-solo songs and the rest with good-old = Kraftwerk=20 songs.
I really must say that my expectations wasn't high, after = hearing some=20 MP3 bootlegs from concerts last year, but the sound quality was really = good, the=20 song selection was great and the interpretations were super.
Some = songs was=20 faithful to the album versions, but some was new and up to date. I = really loved=20 Pocket Calculator (non-mix version), The Man Machine (=E1 la = KW@Roskilde),=20 Telephone Call (great bass line) and Techno Pop (lovely as always)- = tight,=20 bright and with awesome sound.
His solo songs (TV, Young Urban = Professionals=20 and 15 Minutes of Fame) worked really good live and especially 15 = Minutes of=20 Fame - which was played twice - as an encore "to hammer this song into = your=20 minds".
The second encore (The Model) was played by a really happy = band, you=20 could tell they were enjoying the situation!

If you'd like to = hear some=20 Kraftwerk songs live this year, visit a KB concert near=20 you!


/Joakim

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E129.A26F8460-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos Date: 20 May 2001 15:53:33 +0200 I couldn't watch the Polar Music Award ceremony this Monday but saw it on video yesterday, and Bartos actually said "Musik als Tr=E4ger von Ideen" in his short speech to Stockhausen. He first said a few words in German and there it came! Rather interesting, perhaps he was the one who came up with these words for "Technopop". The host of the show when introducing Bartos also said quite a few nice words about Kraftwerk and their importance for "popular music and culture". /Fredrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: Karl Bartos Date: 20 May 2001 18:07:26 +0200 Y=E2! Fredrik F=E4llman skrev: > /.../ perhaps he was the one who came up with these words for "Technopo= p". Perhaps he's just running the same OS. He's only opened up a new subdire= ctory after fifteen years as a robot... -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Music Non-Stop video Date: 21 May 2001 02:09:10 +0100 Hi, The promo video for Music Non-Stop has been posted up on Tour De Kraft for those who wish to download it. Also, I have replaced the existing Pocket Calculator video from ORF2 with one from MTV2 which is 58 seconds longer than the previous clip. It was cut from the middle rather than the end for some reason. enjoy, Mike. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Callau_Mu=F1oz=2C_Oscar=22?= Subject: (kw) FINALLY, FLORIAN WASN'T IN BARCELONA... Date: 21 May 2001 10:37:59 +0200 Hola a todos!! Florian didn't appear at the Se=F1or Coconut in Barcelona, finally. I = managed to speak for a while with Uwe Schmidt, and he just said that "Florian = phoned today and said he wasn't coming". I also asked him about the = possibility of a new Kraftwerk album, and he said it was for sure, because they had = new material completely ready... but no more information about title, = concept, sound... nothing!!=20 By the way, another journalist explained to me that "Florian uses to = come to Barcelona and Ibiza, because he's got sone german friends, and a girl = friend (may be ex), B*****, here. I've seen him walking downtown 3 or 4 years ago..." What a mistery!! Uwe also said he was preparing anoher Sr Coconut album. Apart form that, the Sr. Coconut concert was excellent. Uwe really = liked the place, La Paloma, an old dancing venue in Barcelona. The ambience was = cool and enthusiastic. They played all the songs in the album, plus Expo = 2000 as a "bis". But when we asked for one more song, shouting for "Tour de = France", they said "we've finished them!" and repeated The Man Machine in a = slightly different version, mixing it with the melodies of Girl of Ipanema... = This was the only dissappointing thing in the night ( I mean, it was OK and = fun, but it was clear they had nothing prepared for such an enthusiastic audience, who asked for a second "bis"!!) For me it was clear that the band and the singer were the joy, the fun, = the rythm... while Uwe assumed the Kraftwerk look for himself: cold, quiet, playing the machines... without dancing, nor looking at the audience. = Very kraftwerkian the fact that the musicians left the stage during "Music = non Stop", after one improvisation, and the last one to leave was Atom, as = if he was Ralf... Any more question? Oscar Callau Journalist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) Report from KB@KB Date: 21 May 2001 12:44:46 +0200 I read the review by H=E5kan Steen=20= of KB@KB in the Swedish paper "Aftonbladet": " He has the same graphical tricks and movies as Kraftwerk, even the few of=20= his own songs are=20= clearly shaped due to KW:s philosophy, but so=20= boring that the digital watches stop :-) He sounds at his best as a KW-coverband, brilliant songs in simpler, more boring versions with a much paler show=2E=2E=2E" (V=E4ntar fortfarande p=E5 pengarna f=F6r 3 TdF-singlar) Regards / Johan ---------- Sent: s=F6ndag 20 maj 2001 14=2E40 Message Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Flagged <><> Hi! Just a brief report from the Karl Bartos concert last night at KB in Malm=F6, Sweden=2E One and a half hour of brilliant music, with 3 Bartos-solo songs and the rest with good-old Kraftwerk songs=2E I really must say that my expectations wasn't high, after hearing some MP3 bootlegs from concerts last year, but the sound quality was really good, the song selection was great and the interpretations were super=2E Some songs was faithful to the album versions, but some was new and up to date=2E I really loved Pocket Calculator (non-mix version), The Man Machine (=E1 la KW@Roskilde), Telephone Call (great bass line) and Techno Pop (lovely as always)- tight, bright and with awesome sound=2E His solo songs (TV, Young Urban Professionals and 15 Minutes of Fame) worked really good live and especially 15 Minutes of Fame - which was played twice - as an encore "to hammer this song into your minds"=2E The second encore (The Model) was played by a really happy band, you could tell they were enjoying the situation! If you'd like to hear some Kraftwerk songs live this year, visit a KB concert near you! /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: (kw) Karl's new album, when? Date: 21 May 2001 15:20:19 +0200 Hello, I think Karl's new album was supposed to be out in April..... So It's delayed. Any reason for this, maybe the "15 Minutes..." CDSingle did not sell very well. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) The Theremin Date: 21 May 2001 14:53:37 +0100 This is sort of on topic... Some people say that the Theremin is 'the most important instrument of the 21st century' and some regard Professor Lev Termen as 'the inventor of electronic music' (hence the link?) With that in mind you can 'control' the professor and make him play his instrument if you download a little piece of free software. You can add backing beats and samples to the sounds created. Go to www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml for more info and the download itself. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Report from KB@KB Date: 21 May 2001 16:26:59 +0200 hi kwf's ! johan andersson wrote : > I read the review by Håkan Steen of KB@KB > in the Swedish paper "Aftonbladet": > > " He has the same graphical tricks and movies as Kraftwerk, > even the few of his own songs are clearly shaped due to KW:s > philosophy, but so boring that the digital watches stop :-) > > He sounds at his best as a KW-coverband, brilliant songs > in simpler, more boring versions > with a much paler show..." *hehehe* ;-))) well ... kb once was 25% of kw , but now he seems to "imitate" them nearly to 100% !!! *LOL* ;-))) fyi : in cases like this , i usually prefer wf & his project "yamo" , which is more than 75% of himself ... & only "a wee bit of his former robotic image" !!! *sly_grin* ;-) but most of all i like to see & HEAR the true "original" 50%+ of kw ... called ralf & florian - the real "nucleus" of modern electronic (dance)music in this "simulationszeitalter" !!! *XLG* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 21 May 2001 17:00:31 +0200 hi kwf's ! John Shilcock wrote : > This is sort of on topic... > > Some people say that the Theremin is 'the most important instrument of the > 21st century' and some regard Professor Lev Termen as 'the inventor of > electronic music' well ... prof. lev termen was indeed a great innovator of electronic music & his instrument the theremin was truly outstandin' , but ... prof. trautwein & his pupil oskar sala were much greater innovators of electronic music with their UNIQUE creation of the still highly enigmatic (mixture)trautonium & their first & ONLY successful "venture" into a new scale of music : the so called "subharmonics" !!! neither the theremin nor ANY OTHER musical instrument has such an incredible large scale of notes , so to me , oskar sala - as prof. trautwein's only legitimate successor - is THE_GREATEST livin' innovator of electronic music ( of the 20st century ... & also a bit beyond !!! ;-) & still THE_ONLY_ONE , who owns & CAN_PLAY a fully functionin' (mixture)trautonium , which he developed further over the years ... since the early 30s !!! fyi : my greatest respect goes out to this marvelous man & his creation - the (mixture)trautonium !!! OSKAR_SALA_IS_STILL_"THE_MAESTRO"_OF_MODERN_ELECTRONIC_MUSIC ... imho !!! btw : jus' currently there's a new development takin' place , to create a kind of "modern version" of the (mixture)trautonium , initiated by the german engineer , prof. dieter doepfer !!! for more info about the current state of development , take a closer look @ his site : http://www.doepfer.de/traut/traut_e.htm !!! ;-) anyway ... thanx for the link & for mentionin' the theremin & its innovator here ... once again , john !!! ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Report from KB@KB Date: 21 May 2001 16:14:27 +0100 John Shilcock wrote: > This is sort of on topic... Whatever. It's beautiful. I may cry. Thanks! :-D Oh Jay wrote: > fyi : in cases like this , i usually prefer wf & his project "yamo" , which > is more than 75% of himself ... & only "a wee bit of his former robotic > image" !!! *sly_grin* ;-) And a bit of Mouse On Mars. How much? Well, let's look forward to comparison with his new album being made with Pyrolator before we guess. > but most of all i like to see & HEAR the true "original" 50%+ of kw ... > called ralf & florian - the real "nucleus" of modern electronic (dance)music > in this "simulationszeitalter" !!! *XLG* ;-))) Yes. I increasingly appreciate their recent voice synth/vocoder work. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) EMI Group Date: 21 May 2001 13:48:02 +0200 Wonder why Kraftwerk are listed in the EMI UK United Kingdom area at http://www.emigroup.com/profile/artists.htm And also why http://www.emi-music.com is in Chinese or Japanese? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk.co.za Date: 17 May 2001 10:44:44 +0200 Welcome to: --- www.kraftwerk.co.za --- Registered to: Contact: S. Burger e-mail: sales@kraftwerk.co.za Site registered / hosted by SA Domain http://www.sadomain.com/ DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut live in Spain Date: 21 May 2001 13:56:01 +0200 > Thursday 17th May 2001 22:30 CET Senor Coconut y su Conjunto at Sala > Arena in Madrid. The tracklist was: Showroom dummies TEE Man Machine Homecomputer The Robots Neon lights Autobahn Music non stop Expo 2000 All the concert I wonder myself if Uwe Schmidt is pulling our and Kraftwerk themselves' leg. I'll explain myself - he appears wearing a suit a la Ralf Hutter (TEE-era), he stands all the show serious and unperturbed by his sampler from where he controls all the sequences and effects. His image contrasts with the rest of the musicians, who -by the way- are all from Copenhagen (a place where the salsa, mambo and cumbia styles are not very known and less popular) except for the singer, all of them very jaunty. I'm not surprised Kraftwerk don't like it. It's like he was making a joke at the expense of them. Anyway, I did like and enjoyed the whole concert. Very funny. Schmidt has attained to take genres as salsa, merengue, rhumba, cha-cha-cha, baklan and so to the electronic music fans. What is incredible. Senor Coconut tour has been billed additionally as "Renditions of the hits of Kraftwerk". DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Senor Coconut live in Spain Date: 21 May 2001 18:57:15 +0200 > Senor Coconut tour has been billed additionally as "Renditions of the hits > of Kraftwerk". > > DER AUTOMAT "a somehow profound interpretation of several famous 'werks' of the german pioneers of electronic (dance)music called kraftwerk in a very funny & unique way !!!" ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 21 May 2001 18:57:32 +0200 Oh Jay schrieb am 21.05.2001 17:00 Uhr MEZ: > oskar sala - as prof. trautwein's only > legitimate successor - is THE_GREATEST livin' innovator of electronic mus= ic > ( of the 20st century ... & also a bit beyond !!! ;-) & still THE_ONLY_ON= E , > who owns & CAN_PLAY a fully functionin' (mixture)trautonium , which he > developed further over the years ... since the early 30s !!! > fyi : my greatest respect goes out to this marvelous man & his creation - > the (mixture)trautonium !!! > OSKAR_SALA_IS_STILL_"THE_MAESTRO"_OF_MODERN_ELECTRONIC_MUSIC ... imho !!! Some years ago I had to talk to Sala on the phone, and I really loved it - it was fascinating, like talking to the first airoplane pioneer. At the end it was more than one hour of shop talk ... But I can't help: The Trautonium sometimes produces sounds which reminds me to the invention of Bontempi, and moreover it's not to ignore that Sala often has problems with the correct intonation. And with all due respect: Sala has recorded some fine compositions ("Rummelrhythmus" is still one of my favorites), but there is no Sala composition which could seriously be measured with - let's say - "Kontakte" or "Gesang der J=FCnglinge" by Stockhausen, the "Sound Studies" by Herbert Eimert or "Artikulations" by Ligeti - neither compositional nor regarding the variety of electronic sounds. - just my 2 cents... Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) oskar sala & his (mixture)trautonium ;-) Date: 21 May 2001 20:18:12 +0200 hi kwf's ! Jan Reetze wrote : > Some years ago I had to talk to Sala on the phone, and I really loved it - > it was fascinating, like talking to the first airoplane pioneer. At the end > it was more than one hour of shop talk ... *BWG* ;-))) fyi : i've also had ( & still have ;-) the great opportunity to make several "interviews" with oskar sala over the past years & he's still a hilarious character with an increadible knowledge about how to make music & also how to create the instrumentation therefor !!! ;-) anyway ... u actually have not only to HEAR him play somethin' , but u also have to SEE him play or talk about his musical career , his constant development of the (mixture)trautonium , his continuous "adventures in sound" in general ... to finally realize HOW_GREAT this man really is ... imho !!! *pretty_cinvinced_smile* :-) > But I can't help: The Trautonium sometimes produces sounds which reminds me > to the invention of Bontempi, *LOL* ;-))) but WHO_CAME_FIRST_??? ;-) bontempi ... or trautwein & sala ??? *still_LOL* ;-))) anyway ... seriously , u can nearly create EV'RY_SOUND_U_LIKE with the (mixture)trautonium ... if u are such a skilled player , which is very unlikely , jus' because ONLY sala himself can play "his" instrument "in full effect" ... if he's in "a good mood" & physically good condition !!! ;-) fyi : oskar sala is nearly 91 years old by now !!! ;-) > and moreover it's not to ignore that Sala > often has problems with the correct intonation. ah ... come on , jan , in "that age" u would also have "some problems" to find the KorreKt intonation sometimes ... wouldn't u ??? *VBG* ;-))) > And with all due respect: Sala has recorded some fine compositions > ("Rummelrhythmus" is still one of my favorites), but there is no Sala > composition which could seriously be measured with - let's say - "Kontakte" > or "Gesang der Jünglinge" by Stockhausen, the "Sound Studies" by Herbert > Eimert or "Artikulations" by Ligeti - hmmm ... not imho , because sala's compositions like "stahl - thema mit variationen" were actually the blueprint for kw's t.e.e. itself ( fyi : jus' ask florian schneider about this "stahlWERKsymphonie" !!! *G+* ;-) & his "soundtrack" to the great alfred hitchcock's movie "the birds" was & still is "a masterpiece of special sound effects" ... not only for movies in general !!! ;-) btw : to me , sala's "compositions" were actually more like "soundtracks" for specific "things" than "music" in general ... if u know , what i mean !? ;-) what sala did was diff'rent to what the above mentioned three composers did with their werks ... imho ( again ;-) !!! for that reason alone i wouldn't compare sala's with stockhausen's , eimert's or ligeti's werks ... in the first place !!! > neither compositional nor regarding > the variety of electronic sounds. well ... accordin' to the compositions u may be right , but "the variety of electronic sounds" in some of sala's werks were MUCH_GREATER than in any other werk of ANY_OTHER composer so far !!! ;-) as a matter of fact : i can't remember that neither stockhausen nor eimert nor ANYBODY_ELSE has used the so called "subharmonics" in his compositions before sala ( nor after him ??? ;-) !!! *sly_grin* ;-) however ... does anbody have an example to prove me wrong ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) > - just my 2 cents... DITTO_!!! *hehehe* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 21 May 2001 20:35:27 +0200 Pha, the theremin. The instrument that sounds like a cat being strangled. Hardly the instrument of the century, is it (except maby for the user interface, but even there, I heard that it is a bitch to play)? Didn't turn the world of music making upside down. Only thing it did was making scary movies a bit scarier... -- Only in America... do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries and a diet soda! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) EMI Group Date: 21 May 2001 16:05:00 -0400 >>> And also why http://www.emi-music.com is in Chinese or Japanese? <<< Go to http://www.emigoup.com for the real deal. There are links to EVERY EMI label worldwide. Although, for some reason, Matador Records is still listed there--they've decided to go the independent route ever since they ended their deal with Capitol. However, EMI Manufacturing makes some of their discs. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 22 May 2001 11:09:48 +0100 Jan Reetze wrote: > moreover it's not to ignore that Sala > often has problems with the correct intonation. Oh. I thought it was deliberately microtonal. Oh well, I like incorrect intonation, personally! Familie de Haan wrote: > > Pha, the theremin. The instrument that sounds like a cat being strangled. Hear it being played by a virtuoso. Unfortunately there aren't many about! I was lucky enough to hear it played live by Lydia Kavina, and you don't get any better than her. But even a keen amateur can get some mileage out of the Theremin, particularly when it's played live. A friend of mine recently played one live after just a few week's practice: the pitching was not always perfect, but, after all these decades, the audience was still amazed. > Hardly the instrument of the century, is it The last one? I barely recall. :-) > (except maby for the user > interface, but even there, I heard that it is a bitch to play)? Oh yes. > Didn't turn the world of music making upside down. It played a major part in doing so, I reckon? It didn't, on its own, cause musical revolution, but what ever does? Anyway, where would Bob Moog be now if he had never been inspired by the Theremin to design his own equipment? And without his work, and that of the Beach Boys (well, they used a sort of Theremin) what would Kraftwerk sound like? ;-D > Only thing it did was making scary > movies a bit scarier... So it helped get overtly "electronic" sound into the cinemas. Isn't that quite an achievement? Kev Standing up for Lev. :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) oskar sala & his (mixture)trautonium ;-) Date: 22 May 2001 13:05:40 +0200 Oh Jay schrieb am 21.05.2001 20:18 Uhr MEZ: >> and moreover it's not to ignore that Sala >> often has problems with the correct intonation. > > ah ... come on , jan , in "that age" u would also have "some problems" to > find the KorreKt intonation sometimes ... wouldn't u ??? *VBG* ;-))) I'm far from being more Catholic than the Pope, and yes, I know he's 91, but already his earlier recordings (like Genzmer concerts from 1950) are showing this. > btw : to me , sala's "compositions" were actually more like "soundtracks" > for specific "things" than "music" in general ... if u know , what i mean !? > ;-) Fully agreed, his film music oeuvre is outstanding. I think, that's why Sala awarded a Bundesfilmpreis and Stockhausen the Polar Prize, not the other way round... ;-) > i can't remember that neither stockhausen nor eimert > nor ANYBODY_ELSE has used the so called "subharmonics" in his compositions > before sala ( nor after him ??? ;-) !!! *sly_grin* ;-) > however ... does anbody have an example to prove me wrong ??? *jus'_curious* > ;-) Hans Ulrich Humpert mentions corresponding experiments by B. van der Pol, 1927. Anybody out there who knows more about this? Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 22 May 2001 08:50:11 -0400 Oh Jay wrote: > John Shilcock wrote : > > > Some people say that the Theremin is 'the most important instrument of the > > 21st century' and some regard Professor Lev Termen as 'the inventor of > > electronic music' > > well ... prof. lev termen was indeed a great innovator of electronic music & > his instrument the theremin was truly outstandin' , but ... prof. trautwein > & his pupil oskar sala were much greater innovators of electronic music with > their UNIQUE creation of the still highly enigmatic (mixture)trautonium & > their first & ONLY successful "venture" into a new scale of music : the so > called "subharmonics" !!! > neither the theremin nor ANY OTHER musical instrument has such an incredible > large scale of notes , so to me , oskar sala - as prof. trautwein's only > legitimate successor - is THE_GREATEST livin' innovator of electronic music > ( of the 20st century ... & also a bit beyond !!! ;-) & still THE_ONLY_ONE , > who owns & CAN_PLAY a fully functionin' (mixture)trautonium , which he > developed further over the years ... since the early 30s !!! Well, we have entered into the realm of definition so I doubt we will ever reach agreement, but if there is only one fully functioning trautonium and only one person who can play it, I would have to argue that Prof. Theremin had far greater influence than Prof. Trautwein as presently there are many more Theremin players than one and several different models of Theremin so Theremin developed an instrument type rather than a single instance. Plus there's the very intimate interaction with the Theremin whereby it is your body controlling the music but without physical contact. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) FINALLY, FLORIAN WASN'T IN BARCELONA... Date: 22 May 2001 09:23:28 -0400 On Mon, 21 May 2001 10:37:59 +0200 =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Callau_Mu=F1oz=2C_Oscar=22?= writes: > > > Hola a todos!! > > Florian didn't appear at the Señor Coconut in Barcelona, finally. I > managed > to speak for a while with Uwe Schmidt, and he just said that > "Florian phoned > today and said he wasn't coming". I also asked him about the > possibility of > a new Kraftwerk album, and he said it was for sure, because they had > new > material completely ready... but no more information about title, > concept, > sound... nothing!! > By the way, another journalist explained to me that "Florian uses to > come to > Barcelona and Ibiza, because he's got sone german friends, and a > girl friend > (may be ex), B*****, here. I've seen him walking downtown 3 or 4 > years > ago..." What a mistery!! > > Uwe also said he was preparing anoher Sr Coconut album. > > Apart form that, the Sr. Coconut concert was excellent. Uwe really > liked the > place, La Paloma, an old dancing venue in Barcelona. The ambience > was cool > and enthusiastic. They played all the songs in the album, plus Expo > 2000 as > a "bis". But when we asked for one more song, shouting for "Tour de > France", > they said "we've finished them!" and repeated The Man Machine in a > slightly > different version, mixing it with the melodies of Girl of Ipanema... > This > was the only dissappointing thing in the night ( I mean, it was OK > and fun, > but it was clear they had nothing prepared for such an enthusiastic > audience, who asked for a second "bis"!!) > > For me it was clear that the band and the singer were the joy, the > fun, the > rythm... while Uwe assumed the Kraftwerk look for himself: cold, > quiet, > playing the machines... without dancing, nor looking at the > audience. Very > kraftwerkian the fact that the musicians left the stage during > "Music non > Stop", after one improvisation, and the last one to leave was Atom, > as if he > was Ralf... > > Any more question? > did you tape it? tom w ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) techno pop Date: 22 May 2001 14:44:18 -0000 I read in Later Magazine (UK) an article by Phil Jupitus, talking about valuable vinyls. He said that Kraftwerk's Techno Pop is fetching 500 pounds. But I thought it was never released? If anybody has it, can't you stick it on CD and we can do trades, sell kidneys etc to get this??? Matt _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 22 May 2001 16:54:01 +0200 hi kwf's ! John McIntyre wrote : > Well, we have entered into the realm of definition > so I doubt we will ever reach agreement, fyi : i completely agree that BOTH , the theremin & the (mixture)trautonium were some "very special innovations" in the world of electronic music & brought lots of new possibilities to the ones , who wanted to create "unique sounds" with their aid !!! ;-) > but if there is only one fully functioning trautonium > and only one person who can play it, > I would have to argue that Prof. Theremin had far greater influence > than Prof. Trautwein from that point of view it may be true , but ... the (mixture)trautonium is far more complex in its kind , than ANY_OTHER musical instrument i know of ... & that's the main reason WHY its overall influence in the world of electronic music isn't THAT great ( or HUGE_!!! ;-) as it should have been ... imho !!! *sigh* :-o usually the people , who really want to play a (mixture)trautonium give up after a few years , not only because it's sooo difficult to play & there's only ONE_TEACHER ( the great oskar sala himself !!! ;-) with ONLY_ONE_INSTRUMENT left , but also the fact , that sala himself doesn't really want to teach others how to play "his" instrument , simply because he wants to keep some secrets of it & by now it looks very likely that he takes these secrets into his grave !!! *sighs_deeply* :-o well ... somehow this is a bit of a shame , because of the nearly "unlimited" varieties of "sound possibilities" , this still highly enigmatic instrument has to offer , but i can also understand sala ... as he wasn't supported much in the early 70s , when it was necessary to build a new instrument & only a few enthusiasts would really go "all the way" & develop a new prototype , which finally saw the light of day in the early 80s !!! :-/ since that time only very few people - like the german engineer prof. dieter doepfer - were interested & also skilled enough to support the truly great idea & build another new prototype ... for the use in the world of electronic music of the 21st century !!! ;-) once again , take a closer look @ the current state of development of his "trautonium project" here : http://www.doepfer.de/traut/traut_e.htm & maybe also voice your support by sendin' him ( his company ;-) a short message !!! *G+* ;-) btw : i would appreciate that very much ... for various reasons , but i won't go into details right here & now !!! *slyest_grin* ;-))) > as presently there are many more Theremin players > than one and several different models of Theremin absolutely "KorreKt" !!! ;-) > so Theremin developed an instrument type rather than a single instance. which - imho ;-) - didn't make the theremin "THAT special" as it may look like ... for some of u !!! ;-) while sala's (mixture)trautonium ALWAYS was & still is "a kind of mystery" in the world of music ... or even "a wonder" in itself , because he's still THE_ONLY_ONE alive , who knows ALL its secrets !!! ;-) > Plus there's the very intimate interaction with the Theremin > whereby it is your body controlling the music but without physical contact. that's right !!! but the (mixture)trautonium therefor offers A_WHOLE_NEW_MUSICAL_SCALE : the so called "subharmonics" , which hasn't been used before nor after its invention in the same way like the (mixture)trautonium does it !!! ;-) so finally u are absolutely right , when u assume that the theremin was more "influential" in the world of electronic music for the reasons named here before , but the (mixture)trautonium was & still is THE_GREATER_MUSICAL_"INNOVATION" ... & therefor its "influences" should have been also bigger , but sadly wasn't !!! *sigh* :-o p. s. : maybe a new prototype of it can change the way we listen to & enjoy "modern electronic music" once again ... if this new instrument is much easier to handle & also wider available in the future !? *still_hopeful_smile* :-) anyway ... thanx to prof. dieter doepfer , prof. florian schneider & a few others , who helped to keep an eye on such an incredible musical instrument & such "A_MAESTRO" like the great oskar sala !!! *thankful_smile* :-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 22 May 2001 17:42:03 +0200 In his book Wolfgang Flür did away with that legend and explained to the whole KW-fan-society that Electric Cafe is the delayed release of Techno Pop. Same album, another title. Mehr nicht! Gunnar Matthew Dean wrote: > > I read in Later Magazine (UK) an article by Phil Jupitus, talking about > valuable vinyls. He said that Kraftwerk's Techno Pop is fetching 500 > pounds. But I thought it was never released? If anybody has it, can't > you stick it on CD and we can do trades, sell kidneys etc to get this??? > > Matt > _________________________________________________________________________ -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://mp3.de/home/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin vs. The (Mixture)Trautonium ;-) Date: 22 May 2001 17:52:09 +0200 hi kwf's ! the BIG_"K" wrote : > Anyway, where would Bob Moog be now > if he had never been inspired by the Theremin > to design his own equipment? well ... as he heard of the invention of the (mixture)trautonium he gasped & said "what the heck !? the most marvelous invention in the world of electronic music was already made ??? geez !!! all i can do then , is to create a damned synthesizer & hope that somebody out there will be interested to play it !!!" *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > And without his work, and that of the Beach Boys > (well, they used a sort of Theremin) > what would Kraftwerk sound like? ;-D well ... if they had the chance , they would have bought or reconstructed 4 (mixture)trautoniums & played them live ... & also in the studio , but ... oskar ( sala ;-) was "too busy" at that time to build so many instruments for them & florian once asked him "what shall we do if one of these thyratron tubes explodes while we are performin' a concert ???" & oskar replied "wouldn't that make such a great sound effect ???" *ROTFLMAO* ;-))) anyway ... in the end there wasn't enough thyratron tubes left & ONLY_ONE instrument was build ... for the use of "THE_MAESTRO" himself !!! *G+* ;-) so ralf & florian went back to their studio & invented some vocoders & robots to perform with !!! *BWG* ;-))) ... & the rest is "history" ... by now !!! *XLG* ;-))) > > Only thing it did was making scary movies a bit scarier... > > So it helped get overtly "electronic" sound into the cinemas. > Isn't that quite an achievement? *yawn* :-o fyi : a much greater achivement was made by oskar sala & "his" (mixture)trautonium as he performed his "special sound effects" for alfred hitchcock's movie "the birds" & hitch said to him "well ... these sounds are even scarier than ANY of the REAL sounds i've thought of ... before i've heard this hell of an instrument !!!" *hehehe* ;-))) this jus' "proves" that there isn't ANY "scarier" sound , than the one that comes from sala's (mixture)trautonium !!! *sly_grin* ;-) > Kev > Standing up for Lev. :-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) - standin' up & cheers for the great "MAESTRO" oskar sala !!! :-))) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Did Kraftwerk influence in Gothic Rock? Date: 22 May 2001 16:45:37 +0200 I've found the following comment about the 5CD compilation "Gothic Rock" on a record shop catalogue: "At the height phase of peak-decline of the punk, a much more important and intellectual way of understanding the music emerged. The echoes of Velvet Underground, Doors, Van der Graaf Generator and Kraftwerk bring over musicians who, arisen from the subversion, the viscerality and the pessimism of punk, had learnt to benefit from their instruments". DER AUTOMAT __o _ \ <_ (_) / (_) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 22 May 2001 18:48:34 +0200 hi kwf's ! Matthew Dean wrote : > I read in Later Magazine (UK) an article by Phil Jupitus, talking about > valuable vinyls. He said that Kraftwerk's Techno Pop is fetching 500 > pounds. But I thought it was never released? If anybody has it, can't > you stick it on CD and we can do trades, sell kidneys etc to get this??? well ... afaik , "a finished kling klang produkt" never ever left kw's studio , so there jus' can't be any "release" of the ominous "techno-pop" album of 1983 !!! :-/ anyway ... if u like to break into their studio & steal the master tapes ... u still might get even more than 500 pounds for them !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lech Subject: (kw) Short interview with Bartos Date: 22 May 2001 18:42:46 +0200 Courtesy of the Swedish evening rag Expressen - http://www3.expressen.se/video/webbtv/007.ram -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 22 May 2001 18:09:37 +0100 Matthew Dean wrote: > I read in Later Magazine (UK) an article by Phil Jupitus, talking about > valuable vinyls. He said that Kraftwerk's Techno Pop is fetching 500 > pounds. The TV comedian? Perhaps it was one of his jokes. Heh. :-/ Oh Jay wrote: >> So it helped get overtly "electronic" sound into the cinemas. >> Isn't that quite an achievement? >=20 > *yawn* :-o I was careful to say "helped". Let's not forget 'Forbidden Planet', enhance= d by Louis and Bebe Barron's wonky oscillators. And so on! Gunnar Wess wrote: > In his book Wolfgang Fl=FCr did away with that legend and explained to the > whole KW-fan-society that Electric Cafe is the delayed release of Techno > Pop. Same album, another title. Mehr nicht! Yeah, thank goodness for that. At last something approaching an "official denial".=20 I've recently finished reading WF's book. It was a good read, but in the English edition, purged of whatever offensive material the German original contained, he comes across as _really_ having it in for Ralf & Florian afte= r they threatened to sue him. I wouldn't rush to condemn either side, and it'= s a shame there's such acrimony: WF clearly feels wronged by the egos of others, and no doubt R&F felt the same way. No doubt the full story will on= e day be known, but I think we might have a very long wait. I felt left in the dark as to what exactly Wolfgang really did do in the band: was he just contributing the odd drum pattern for recordings, and playing live? Or was he designing much of their equipment and, therefore, sound? Why did the "uniform" Kraftwerk permit him to perform a solo spot in the drum cage? The autobiography did not clarify his role in Kraftwerk: was it deliberately vague in this respect, or did WF really just not wish to talk about oscillators (wonky or otherwise?). These questions may be taken as rhetorical, by the way... K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 22 May 2001 18:43:21 +0200 hi kwf's ! Gunnar Wess ( a.k.a. "Der Stromschläger" ;-) wrote : > In his book Wolfgang Flür did away with that legend > and explained to the whole KW-fan-society > that Electric Cafe is the delayed release of Techno Pop. > Same album, another title. Mehr nicht! HUH_!?!?!? :-O well ... i'm sorry , but that jus' isn't "KorreKt" , gunnar !!! :-/ fyi : the "original techno-pop" album was completely recorded & mixed at kw's own "kling klang studio" in 1983 ( or maybe also earlier !? ;-) & it MOST_DEFINITELY doesn't incl. the songs ( or traxxx ;-) "boing boom tschak" & "electric cafe" , but therefor a version of "tour de france" !!! "electric cafe" was recorded in d-dorf am rhein , but ENTIRELY mixed in 1986 at the "right track studio" in n. y. c. ... with the help of francois kervorkian & ron st. germain !!! afaik , the "original techno-pop" track list looked like this : a-side : techno-pop & music non-stop ( btw : both traxxx were mixed into each other , like numbers & computerworld 2 ... & were also much longer than in its later versions or mixes !!! ;-) b-side : the telephone call / sex object / tour de france btw : ( also afaik !!! ;-) florian schneider was pretty amused about the u. s. hip hop scene at this time & especially "the human beatbox" style inspired ( him & ) kw to do the "boing boom tschak" openin' track for their "electric cafe" album ... as they were in "the big apple" a.k.a. n. y. c. !!! *G+* ;-) p. s. : i also wonder , if wf was even there ... as they mixed the "electric cafe" album in the states !? *sly_grin* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 22 May 2001 19:52:42 +0200 hi kwf's ! the BIG_"K" wrote again : > WF clearly feels wronged by the egos of others, > and no doubt R&F felt the same way. > No doubt the full story will one day be known, > but I think we might have a very long wait. well ... imho , only a ( kind of ) press conference with ALL_5 (ex-)kw members ( huetter / schneider / bartos / fluer & schult ) would bring out THE_WHOLE_TRUTH one day ... & this will ALWAYS remain "an unfulfilled dream or hope" !!! *sighs_deeply* :-o so don't hold your breath , fellows ... because u would certainly die of the lack of oxygen in your brain !!! *LOL* ;-))) > The autobiography did not clarify his role in Kraftwerk: > was it deliberately vague in this respect, or did WF really just not wish > to talk about oscillators (wonky or otherwise?). afaik , "his role in kraftwerk" was the one of the percussion player !!! nothin' more or less than this !!! :-/ he once was "hired" to do this ( back in 1972 , as far as i remember !? ) & wasn't ever "allowed" to contribute more to the "gesamtkunstwerk" of kw !!! *sigh* :-o btw : how would u actually feel after such a looong time as "a mere robotic device" to play only the percussion ... & nothin' else ??? :-o so i suppose that he was a bit ( more :-/ ) disappointed about all "that" & really don't wanted to talk about it any further in his book ... what i quite understand very well , if i were "walkin' in his shoes" !!! ;-) > These questions may be taken as rhetorical, by the way... anyway ... i don't mind , kev !!! *G+* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 22 May 2001 19:05:16 +0100 Oh Jay wrote: > well ... i'm sorry , but that jus' isn't "KorreKt" , gunnar !!! :-/ > fyi : the "original techno-pop" album was completely recorded & mixed at > kw's own "kling klang studio" in 1983 ( or maybe also earlier !? ;-) & it > MOST_DEFINITELY doesn't incl. the songs ( or traxxx ;-) "boing boom tschak" > & "electric cafe" , but therefor a version of "tour de france" !!! I think we're getting into pedantic, semantic spaces now, but hey, why not. :-D > "electric cafe" was recorded in d-dorf am rhein , but ENTIRELY mixed in 1986 > at the "right track studio" in n. y. c. ... with the help of francois > kervorkian & ron st. germain !!! But but but. If (IF!) my interpretation* of comments by Karl Bartos are correct, the project was only renamed 'Electric Cafe' at a late stage, when the set previously codenamed 'Technopop' had already changed. So if that was the case, then Gunnar is korreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekt. Either way, I think (God, I hope) we can all agree that, regardless of how we define it (other than as 'Electric Cafe'!) 'Techno-Pop' does not exist...! (Wouldn't it be horrible if R&F called the new album 'Technopop', just to confuse us all further...). Kevin * http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/recordings.html#technopop) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 22 May 2001 11:14:17 -0700 I respect everything said here about this instrument, but in all honesty, I'd like to think of Ralf and company more like regular guys who spent many nights mesmerized by Dusseldorf DJ's rather than listening to Stockhausen or to some wacky instrument played by some very respected dude on their record players. According to Karl Bartos and Wolfgang Flur, they used to go out a lot and get tons of positive vibes off the funky new sounds played in the nearby discos, in fact, they envy the feeling created by those sounds. I know, this doesn't benefit their "intellectual" aura, like placing their names next to Stockhausen, Sala and the theremin does; but I certainly believe they've also got, at the very least, some influence from their 70's and 80's peers. I'm pretty damn sure, at some point in time, they have listened, and wanted to sound just like Art Of Noise and Giorgio Moroder (only to name a few). In any case, I'm really thankful for whatever / whoever influenced them to create some of the most beautiful music on this planet. Peace out. Enrique np: "Time Pie" Yamo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 23 May 2001 09:29:57 +0100 Enrique Correa wrote: > I > know, this doesn't benefit their "intellectual" aura, like placing their > names next to Stockhausen, Sala and the theremin does; but I certainly > believe they've also got, at the very least, some influence from their 70's > and 80's peers. Yes, of course (and don't forget the 60s...). That's why I mentioned the Beach Boys' use of a (sort of) Theremin sound*. Cf. 'Good Vibrations' by the BB and 'Airwaves' by Kraftwerk! Enjoying popular culture is not incompatible with being "intellectual"! Kevin * but not an actual Theremin... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 24 May 2001 13:28:24 +0200 Familie de Haan wrote: > Pha, the theremin. The instrument that sounds like a cat being strangled. Kevin Busby then replied: >Hear it being played by a virtuoso. Unfortunately there aren't many about! >I was lucky enough to hear it played live by Lydia Kavina, and you don't >get any better than her. I do. Clara Rockmore, professor Leon Theremin's most faithful pupil. She became a virtuoso of the instrument and was spreading it all over the world, she even wrote some books on The Theremin. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Senor Coconut in Spanish press Date: 24 May 2001 13:27:34 +0200 Interview (in Spanish) http://www.tentaciones.elpais.es/t/d/20010511/musica/p03.htm Uwe Schmidt says Florian was sent a Senor Coconut's three-track CD by EMI and he liked the Latin vision of the Kraftwerk's music. 'El baile aleman' review (in Spanish) http://www.tentaciones.elpais.es/t/d/exe/discos.asp?codigo=2535 DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 24 May 2001 17:39:15 +0100 Der Automat wrote: >> Hear it being played by a virtuoso. Unfortunately there aren't many about! >> I was lucky enough to hear it played live by Lydia Kavina, and you don't >> get any better than her. > > I do. Clara Rockmore, professor Leon Theremin's most faithful pupil. She > became a virtuoso of the instrument and was spreading it all over the world, > she even > wrote some books on The Theremin. Yeah, but alas she's a bit dead these days, so Ms Kavina wins among the current contenders. Ms Rockmore had a great image, didn't she? Standing there, imperiously summoning voices from the ether... Oh yes... (The most famous photo is at http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1859/ ). Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: (kw) Hello all Kwk fans!!! Date: 24 May 2001 13:57:00 -0400 I have a song at MP3.com that is somewhat more of a tribute to Kraftwerk = then anything. This is completely unlike anything I have ever done!! :-) = I am really surprised at the responce I have gotten from it all ready = and it was just posted earlier today!!!! ;-)=20 There are NO Kraftwerk samples these sounds are from the awesome Waldorf = Q synthisizer!!! ;-) I went on a programming frenzy just to see what I = could do with it and I was really happy with it!!!! ;-) The Song is = called "Q-Werk Kwk Mix". I hope you like it.... maybe it will help out = until the real thing comes out from the Masters!!! ;-) It is the first = song on my page so you can't miss it!!! All feedback... including flames = are welcome!!! *LOL*=20 Cheers!! ;-) =20 Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: Re: (kw) Hello all Kwk fans!!! Date: 24 May 2001 14:38:54 -0400 Just downloaded it. Super !!!! It's a keeper. Heard it 5 times already. Keep up the great music. Christian Claycomb wrote: > I have a song at MP3.com that is somewhat more of a tribute to Kraftwerk then anything. This is completely unlike anything I have ever done!! :-) I am really surprised at the responce I have gotten from it all ready and it was just posted earlier today!!!! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) on "rumors" & other "stuff" ;-) Date: 19 May 2001 12:47:34 +0200 hi kwf's ! a good friend of mine once said : "Expect too much, and you will always be disappointed; expect little, expect nothing, and you may get just that, or more, and remain just a little content at something, but expect a little, and get more, may bring some enjoyment." - C. L. bear this in mind ... for the time to come ( until sept. ) !!! ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gadget man" Subject: (kw) More fun to compute..... Date: 24 May 2001 20:07:44 +0100 Virgin Megastore on Oxford Street have a display of "electronic" artists set up called "It's More Fun To Compute" . The display has dozens of convenient peel off stickers of Ralf's head (from Computerworld). Get yours today but don't get caught! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) More fun to compute..... Date: 24 May 2001 13:34:21 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 24 May 2001, gadget man wrote: > Virgin Megastore on Oxford Street have a display of "electronic" artists set > up called "It's More Fun To Compute" . The display has dozens of convenient > peel off stickers of Ralf's head (from Computerworld). What city? I'll have to fly over and snatch one. :) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) The Theremin Date: 24 May 2001 22:36:28 +0200 > Yeah, but alas she's a bit dead these days... Wot, she's a zombie then? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fredrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4llman?= Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos Date: 20 May 2001 15:53:33 +0200 I couldn't watch the Polar Music Award ceremony this Monday but saw it on video yesterday, and Bartos actually said "Musik als Tr=E4ger von Ideen" in his short speech to Stockhausen. He first said a few words in German and there it came! Rather interesting, perhaps he was the one who came up with these words for "Technopop". The host of the show when introducing Bartos also said quite a few nice words about Kraftwerk and their importance for "popular music and culture". /Fredrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Dieffenbach Subject: (kw) Any other of you robots like 311? Date: 19 May 2001 00:24:56 -0500 Check out this picture I found while searching for pictures of the Hard Rock Reggae Funk band, 311: http://www.angelfire.com/music/slinky311/details.jpg I don't think it's doctors... I was fortunate to find it, because I can't find it anywhere else. Andrew Dieffenbach # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank X. Cordero" Subject: (kw) The Kraftwerk Influence Continues...... Date: 24 May 2001 22:52:46 Check out the Kraftwerk sample of "The Robots" on "Dream On (Assembly Mix)" Exiter Remixes by Depeche Mode. http://djfrankx.tripod.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: RE: (kw) Hello all Kwk fans!!! Date: 24 May 2001 19:03:27 -0400 >>From: nitrous >> >>Just downloaded it. Super !!!! It's a keeper. >>Heard it 5 times already. Keep up the great music. >> Wow...... 5 times huh!! :-) Thank you!!! :-) I am glad you like it! = :-) Thanks to all who have sent the positve feedback! I really appreciate = it!! :-) Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: RE: (kw) Hello all Kwk fans!!! Date: 24 May 2001 19:05:52 -0400 >> >> >>I very rarely post to the list, so you may not have seen my name = around. >>Fantastic job on the song - I'm just starting out playing w/MIDI=20 >>and whatnot >>myself - it shows that you put a lot of work into this track. Love it! >> >>Best, >> >>Nat Nat, Glad you like the song!! It took many nights of staying up into the wee = hours of the morning to finish it. UNfortunately I got sick this morning = and have been in bed all day, sleeping...... it was great to wake up to = see all the resonces I've gotten!!! :-)=20 Thanx guys!!!=20 Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Report from KB@KB Date: 20 May 2001 14:37:30 +0200 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E129.A26F8460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Just a brief report from the Karl Bartos concert last night at KB in = Malm=F6, Sweden. One and a half hour of brilliant music, with 3 Bartos-solo songs and = the rest with good-old Kraftwerk songs. I really must say that my expectations wasn't high, after hearing some = MP3 bootlegs from concerts last year, but the sound quality was really = good, the song selection was great and the interpretations were super. Some songs was faithful to the album versions, but some was new and up = to date. I really loved Pocket Calculator (non-mix version), The Man = Machine (=E1 la KW@Roskilde), Telephone Call (great bass line) and Techno Pop = (lovely as always)- tight, bright and with awesome sound. His solo songs (TV, Young Urban Professionals and 15 Minutes of Fame) = worked really good live and especially 15 Minutes of Fame - which was played = twice - as an encore "to hammer this song into your minds". The second encore (The Model) was played by a really happy band, you = could tell they were enjoying the situation! If you'd like to hear some Kraftwerk songs live this year, visit a KB concert near you! /Joakim ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E129.A26F8460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Hi!

Just a brief report from the = Karl Bartos=20 concert last night at KB in Malm=F6, Sweden.

One and a half hour = of=20 brilliant music, with 3 Bartos-solo songs and the rest with good-old = Kraftwerk=20 songs.
I really must say that my expectations wasn't high, after = hearing some=20 MP3 bootlegs from concerts last year, but the sound quality was really = good, the=20 song selection was great and the interpretations were super.
Some = songs was=20 faithful to the album versions, but some was new and up to date. I = really loved=20 Pocket Calculator (non-mix version), The Man Machine (=E1 la = KW@Roskilde),=20 Telephone Call (great bass line) and Techno Pop (lovely as always)- = tight,=20 bright and with awesome sound.
His solo songs (TV, Young Urban = Professionals=20 and 15 Minutes of Fame) worked really good live and especially 15 = Minutes of=20 Fame - which was played twice - as an encore "to hammer this song into = your=20 minds".
The second encore (The Model) was played by a really happy = band, you=20 could tell they were enjoying the situation!

If you'd like to = hear some=20 Kraftwerk songs live this year, visit a KB concert near=20 you!


/Joakim

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E129.A26F8460-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dante de Conti Neto Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK Date: 24 May 2001 23:08:31 -0300 Guys, I=B4m looking for live Radioactivity intro (Sellafield)... someone can help me? Dante. PS: Lots of my kraftwerk stuff (2.2GB) avaible in ftp://200.206.160.16 (n= ew files are welcome in uploads). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Petter Subject: (kw) Report from KB in Gothenburg Date: 25 May 2001 01:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Hi, The Karl Bartos show at Trädgår'n in Gothenburg was identical to what Joakim wrote earlier about the Malmö/KB concert. There were two extra songs and the three men on stage (Bartos and another man on keyboards + one man on computer graphics) were very happy playing the last song. They also said they were coming back next year, with a new album. By the way, here is the playlist from Gothenburg: 1. Computer World 2. Metropolis 3. Man Machine 4. Home Computer 5. It's More Fun To Compute 6. Music Non Stop 7. Telephone Call 8. Tour de France 9. TV 10. Young Urban Professional 11. Neonlights 12. The Model 13. Computer Love 14. 15 Minutes Of Fame 15. Pocket Calculator 16. The Robots Pause 17. 15 Minutes Of Fame Pause 18. The Model Best, Petter http://www.fatbankroll.nu/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) old messages ... reposted ??? :-o Date: 25 May 2001 12:06:43 +0200 hi kwf's ! hmmm ... i dunno about the rest of u , but i've received some "old messages" from last weekend ( one of my own messages was "reposted" too !!! ;-) & i jus' wanted to ask , if anyone of u made the same observation ??? *very_curious* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) fyi : this message was send to the list originally on fri. , 25th of may 2001 !!! *G+* ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "richard marston" Subject: (kw) Technopop Date: 25 May 2001 10:27:02 -0000 Matt wrote: "I read in Later Magazine (UK) an article by Phil Jupitus, talking about valuable vinyls. He said that Kraftwerk's Techno Pop is fetching 500 pounds. But I thought it was never released?" I wonder if Jupitus has a copy of The Penguin Price Guide on his bookshelf -- a book I designed a couple of years ago. I remember having a frustrating "debate" with the rather stubborn author who refused to believe this album did not exist. To him the fact that there was a catalogue number and rumours of sleeve artwork was convincing enough evidence that the LP had been pressed and pre-released copies might be found. At least, he suggested, it would encourage people to search. Presumably running a secondhand record shop in Northampton allows him a greater insight as to the logic of including false information -- the valuations (£500 mint / £350 v. good condition) he made up. Still, I managed to get a photo of Klang Box 101 in the most recent edition. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) old messages ... reposted ??? :-o Date: 25 May 2001 12:52:25 +0200 (CEST) > hmmm ... i dunno about the rest of u , but i've > received some "old messages" > from last weekend ( one of my own messages was > "reposted" too !!! ;-) & i > jus' wanted to ask , if anyone of u made the same > observation ??? > *very_curious* ;-) Yeah, I've recived some of these as well.. Nothing compared to an email I got the other day: It was stamped July 7th 1997. Timewarp anyone? ______________________________________________________ Går mail for langsomt for dig? Så prøv Yahoo! Messenger - her kan du i løbet af få sekunder udveksle beskeder med de venner, der er online. Messenger finder du på adressen: http://dk.messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Music Non Stop in an exhibition Date: 25 May 2001 11:00:29 +0200 Korean videoartist Nam June Paik shows those days his work at the Gugenheim museum (Bilbao, Spain) "A garden of televisions", where it is able to see some fragments of the Kraftwerk videoclip for Music Non Stop. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hartmut Ernst Subject: (kw) Hello! Date: 25 May 2001 21:55:35 +0200 Hello! My name is Hartmut. I'm 39 years old and living in M=FCnster/Germany. Since the mid-70s I use to hear the music of Kraftwerk - being facinated by their clear, strict and reduced way of playing. Although there are no Kraftwerk-outputs in the last years (except "Expo 2000"), I'd like to hear from other fans of the group and perhaps get some more information about the latest news of the band. Please excuse my bad English; I don't use it often. By the way: Kraftwerk is a German group. How about talking in German language here?=20 Hartmut # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ganz allein" Subject: (kw) selling Conrad Schnitzler and Yamo CD's Date: 25 May 2001 21:35:11 I'm selling these CD's: Conrad Schnitzler. Ballet Statique. 1992. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1433474883 Yamo. Time Pie. 1997. Wolfgang Flur solo project. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1433767538 Thanks for looking. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) Hello! Date: 26 May 2001 09:52:28 +0200 > From: Hartmut Ernst > Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:55:35 +0200 > To: "kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com" > Subject: (kw) Hello! > > By the way: Kraftwerk is a German group. How about talking in German > language here? Hahahaha, ja da's een goeie. Laten we allemaal in onze eigen taal gaan schrijven! Handig! Begrijpt 85% van de leden niet waar het overgaat. He, Kraftwerk heeft ook in het Japans gezongen, dus waarom niet alles in het Japans? Tsss, ik wil geen rel veroorzaken hier, anders had ik nog wat onaardige dingen kunnen schrijven... No please, keep on writing English, how bad or good your English is... -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Say NO to HTML in email and news X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hartmut Ernst Subject: (kw) Futurism Date: 26 May 2001 11:42:32 +0200 Hi! > Hahahaha, ja da's een goeie. Laten we allemaal in onze eigen taal gaan > schrijven! Handig! Begrijpt 85% van de leden niet waar het overgaat. > He, Kraftwerk heeft ook in het Japans gezongen, dus waarom niet alles i= n het > Japans? Gratulation! Your Dutch is quite good.=20 > Tsss, ik wil geen rel veroorzaken hier, anders had ik nog wat onaardige > dingen kunnen schrijven... Could it be, that you took my "suggestion" too seriously? ;-) (Although you made me curious, which "onaardige dingen" you could have written. But let's stop this. Kraftwerk itself is a far better topic to talk about.) > No please, keep on writing English, how bad or good your English is... I'll try to do my best. Question: Is it possibel or known, that Kraftwerk were/are influenced by the "philosophy" of the Italian Futurism of the beginning of the 20th century (Marinetti & co.)? I think, there are some parallels (for example: the enthusiasm about technic, speed, reduction to clear forms etc.). But maybe I'm wrong, and Kraftwerk just wanted to make a satire on these. After reading the book of Wolfgang Fl=FCr ("Ich war ein Roboter") I'm not sure about this. Greetings, Hartmut Pardon, if I got on a topic, which you already discussed here! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 27 May 2001 13:36:09 +0200 Kevin Busby wrote: > Either way, I think (God, I hope) we can all agree that, regardless of how > we define it (other than as 'Electric Cafe'!) 'Techno-Pop' does not > exist...! But, how did those "demo" tracks of "Technopop" and "Sex Object" get to us then? I'm very sure they are indeed made by Kraftwerk, the Vako Orchestron choirs are still there. I would not be surprised if a few copies or tapes exist, but are in the hands of people who keep their mouth shut about it. So, maybe Fluer will tell us more some day? Fluer/Bartos must have had copies at least? Or were they searched on leaving the studio each day? Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 27 May 2001 14:51:38 +0100 Rick Jansen wrote: > Kevin Busby wrote: > >> Either way, I think (God, I hope) we can all agree that, regardless of how >> we define it (other than as 'Electric Cafe'!) 'Techno-Pop' does not >> exist...! > > But, how did those "demo" tracks of "Technopop" and "Sex Object" get > to us then? I'm very sure they are indeed made by Kraftwerk So am I. The tracks sound like Kraftwerk. They also sound like demos. They are also two (2) in number. That makes a rather short and rough-sounding "album". > I would not be surprised if > a few copies or tapes exist, "Copies or tapes" of _what_? Demos? Studio exercises? Even, for example, a few back-up copies of tapes of finished songs would not equate to a release of a compiled, mastered 'Technopop' album, whether official or bootleg. > but are in the hands of people who keep > their mouth shut about it. So, maybe Fluer will tell us more some day? > Fluer/Bartos must have had copies at least? > Or were they searched > on leaving the studio each day? Rick, I'm surprised at you. You sound desperate! Are you deliberately trolling here? I just don't get why so many fans are so keen to prove the existence of an album for which there is such flimsy evidence. Goodness me! ;-) Please note that I have never argued that it is impossible that copies of 'Technopop' exist, just that there is no useful evidence that it does. We are not talking about the Loch Ness monster here. If the album (again, official or bootleg or whatever) had been released, a photograph of its cover would be easy to find. If recordings had found their way into circulation, MP3s would be impossible to avoid! The nature and purpose of anything _not_ in circulation are debatable, of course... but not productively so, IMO. As for 'Technopop' existing as a compiled, ready-for-release master tape, locked away in the Kling Klang vaults, well, I for one am unaware of any evidence for this (such things as the assignment of a catalogue number mean absolutely nothing - Kraftwerk probably BS the record companies with glee!). I have no "axe to grind" when I say it's 99.99% certain that 'Technopop' does not exist. I would be happy to be proved wrong. However, I think the onus of proof is usually on those assert the existence of something, no? ;-) Cheers Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 27 May 2001 22:43:29 +0200 No trolling, no despair. Technopop was never released, it has never been produced in a factory, and it has never been in any shop. I'm certain of that. So in that sense, indeed, Technopop "the album" does not exist. However, it's final release was halted rather suddenly, and in a late stage, due to a few causes. Apparently the record company thought the album rather short, Huetter had a cycling accident, delaying the release of Tour de France, etc etc. I have seen the entry in the record collector's guide years ago, and dismissed it as an error and silly at the time. Then artwork, and even a "demo" surfaces. (I wrongly referred to a "Sex Object" demo from Technopop, the only track I know from Technopop is Technopop itself.) I cannot judge whether it is "only" demo quality or a final album version, I do know I love that Technopop-Technopop, it has a similar nice feel (to me) to it as a track like Neon Lights. Bussy even mentions it was to take up one whole side of the record. He also tells us there was a lot of tension around Tour de France itself. All in all I think Kraftwerk themselves got so fed up with the whole thing (Technopop) that they abandoned the project, and put their energy into reworking Kling Klang Studio from analog to digital (Synclavier e.a.), hoping for new inspiration. Unfortunately machines like Synclaviers and Yamaha DX-machines are not that simple to play, and are very different from the analog synths Kraftwerk were used to. (Yes, Computer World is played mainly on analog equipment, ironically.) I guess it has taken all the years 1983-1986 to rewerk the creative process, and produce Electric Cafe in the end, never getting back to their original "simple" and light-hearted Technopop. With all the new gear it would really have been going "back". In 1981 (Computer World) there wasn't even MIDI yet to control your machines(!), by 1983 there was, plus a lot more. And if you have a super synthesizer like the Synclavier, who wants to get back to manually playing an Orchestron. One question I'd like to see asked people like Huetter/Schneider is whether all the new technology was (is?) actually fun to play with as a musician. Although an honest answer could be damaging to name and fame :-) I do think technology is to blame for a shake-out in electronic music from the mid eighties till quite recently. Now synthesizers are becoming more playable again I'm starting to hear more music I like again. Ladytron, Chicane, Faithless, Daft Punk, even the Stereo MC's are back... So, meine Herren, it's time to put some oil in the Orchestron, and get back to work on that Technopop album. Kick out the Borg and make us some music! Please? Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) william orbit remixes cd Date: 27 May 2001 15:58:36 -0600 Howdy all... Someone mentioned a while back about a German CD released produced by Karl Bartos containing remixes by William Orbit. The person also gave a site where I can order/buy it. Anyone recall the whats and wheres of this? Thanks! Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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--=_alternative 007A4CDCC1256A59_=-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 27 May 2001 23:57:14 -0400 This reminds me.... What was the catalog number Warner Bros. assigned to "Techno Pop" before it was canceled? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Wickson" Subject: (kw) Censorship at Amazon.com? Date: 27 May 2001 22:20:37 -0700 Go to amazon.com. Look under Tim Barr's book and this is what Herr Fluer has to say about the absence of his book. Is there some conspiracy underfoot? Dear Sirs, this is the only way I found to reach you. My name is Wolfgang Flür, former drummer of the German popband Kraftwerk. I have written my own biography which is called 'I Was A Robot'. This book is out in the US since March and it was announced long before and on sale at your company. I find it now taken from this page. Can you tell me why? Are there any problems? Please could tell me? Sincerely, W. flür zuwolf@t-online.de _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Hey everyone! Date: 28 May 2001 09:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Hey everyone, I'm new here, and I want to know more about this "Technopop" album...I only got about 3 messages concerning it, and if someone could fill me in about it would be much appreciated. By the way, I found a version of "Sex Object" on analog equipment, would this be on the "Technopop" album? == Signed, omegaChance AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 9695138 EMAIL: Omega@Herzeleid.net www.OmegaChance.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Kaspar=20Larsen?= Subject: Re: (kw) Hey everyone! Date: 28 May 2001 19:11:08 +0200 (CEST) Hey omegaChance, and welcome aboard! "Technopop" was the original title of the "Electric Cafe" album. Apparently, a shop somewhere was selling the "Technopop" album as 500£ vinyl LP, hwich has sparked a lot of questions. Yours Kaspar D. Larsen ===== "Don't let me die in a automobile I wanna lie in a open field. Let the snakes suck my skin" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - The End (performed live) "The Music is your only friend Until the end" - Jim Morrison, The Doors - When the music's over ______________________________________________________ Går mail for langsomt for dig? Så prøv Yahoo! Messenger - her kan du i løbet af få sekunder udveksle beskeder med de venner, der er online. Messenger finder du på adressen: http://dk.messenger.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephan Schumacher Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 28 May 2001 19:24:56 +0200 All in all I think Kraftwerk themselves got so fed up with the whole thing (Technopop) that they abandoned the project, and put their energy into reworking Kling Klang Studio from analog to digital (Synclavier e.a.), hoping for new inspiration. Unfortunately machines like Synclaviers and Yamaha DX-machines are not that simple to play, and are very different >from the analog synths Kraftwerk were used to. (Yes, Computer World is played mainly on analog equipment, ironically.) I guess it has taken all the years 1983-1986 to rewerk the creative process, and produce Electric Cafe in the end, never getting back to their original "simple" and light-hearted Technopop. This was quite a nice essay, and I think it comes very close to the truth. As far as I know the changing to digital technologies in addition was delayed because the "Synclavier" isn´t an instrument that is easy to use. Even Depeche Mode bought the Synclavier and didn´t use it for their actual production (I think it was "Some Great Reward") because it was too difficult to programm the instrument. But at least it was the best electronic instrument that you could get at that times and, as we all know, kraftwerk HAD to buy it for that reason. Stay tuned NUC2001 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) So...Who's gonna e-mail Wolfgang? Date: 28 May 2001 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Well we got his e-mail address...so whos gonna e-mail him and what are you gonna say? zuwolf@t-online.de == Signed, omegaChance AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 9695138 EMAIL: Omega@Herzeleid.net www.OmegaChance.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: RE: (kw) So...Who's gonna e-mail Wolfgang? Date: 28 May 2001 14:57:27 -0400 >> Omega Chance >> >>Well we got his e-mail address...so whos gonna e-mail him and=20 >>what are you gonna say? zuwolf@t-online.de Well, I did months ago but I guess he didn't have the time to write = back. I've heard he usually does write people back.... when he gets the = time!!! ;-) Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk's Love Life.. Date: 28 May 2001 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Are any members of Kraftwerk (Ralf, Florian, Karl, Wolfgang, Henning, Fritz) married? I haven't heard much about their love life at all... == Signed, omegaChance AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 9695138 EMAIL: Omega@Herzeleid.net www.OmegaChance.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ConnectFree" Subject: RE: (kw) So...Who's gonna e-mail Wolfgang? Date: 28 May 2001 22:20:39 +0100 Hi All, Another suggestion might be to support herr Fl=FCr and ask Amazon the sam= e question :) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Omega Chance Sent: 28 May 2001 19:41 Well we got his e-mail address...so whos gonna e-mail him and what are yo= u gonna say? zuwolf@t-online.de =3D=3D Signed, omegaChance AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 9695138 EMAIL: Omega@Herzeleid.net www.OmegaChance.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 28 May 2001 23:21:45 +0200 Stephan Schumacher wrote: > > ... As far > as I know the changing to digital technologies in addition was delayed because the > "Synclavier" isn´t an instrument that is easy to use. Even Depeche Mode bought the > Synclavier and didn´t use it for their actual production (I think it was "Some > Great Reward") because it was too difficult to programm the instrument. But at > least it was the best electronic instrument that you could get at that times and, > as we all know, kraftwerk HAD to buy it for that reason. Well, there was (is!) more to the Synclavier than just being a synthesizer, it also had sampling at very high frequencies that no other machine had. Where the Fairlight had 8 bits at 20 kbits/s, the Synclavier has 16-bit sampling at 96 kb/s. Furthermore, it has real-time processing, advanced sequencing, and... digital recording! Mind, what you can buy today for your home studio for a few thousand US dollars cost up to US$ 200.000,- then. Kraftwerk must have invested greatly in the Synclavier, both in effort and financially. It must have been terrible news that in the early 90's New England Digital (Synclavier's manufacturer) closed down, leaving people like Kraftwerk, Zappa, Pat Metheny and a lot of others basically in the cold with a BIG investment, and no immediate future. Again, I think that many people simply got (get) lost when they buy too much or too fancy equipment. You spend all your energy and time working on the system instead of making music. What Kraftwerk did with a few old synths like miniMoog, polymoog, prophet 5, an orchestron, nice expensive vocoders and an old rhythm machine they have not really repeated after their last "classic" album, Computer World. It is very satisfying too to fiddle with a big system like Synclavier and the like, Electric Cafe is proof of that, but it's difficult to keep up artistic output at the same time. So, all in all, my advise would be: scrap the Synclavier, away with the computer and Cubase, back to voltage control and good old handiwork knob twiddling. Let us hear that Orchestron SING! Know what, it might work too. Rick Jansen PS It turned out to be not THAT bad after all, Synclavier continues even today via DEMAS (see: http://www.synclavier.com/), but back then it looked like the end of the Synclavier, and grim for your investment in your system. PPS Doesn't Mark Snow use a Synclavier for the X-Files sound and music...? (Many of Synclaviers are used for the sound track of films, i.e. the sound track, not just the music.) -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 28 May 2001 21:53:02 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "kw" Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:21 PM > > So, all in all, my advise would be: scrap the Synclavier, away with the > computer and Cubase, back to voltage control and good old handiwork > knob twiddling. Let us hear that Orchestron SING! Know what, it might work > too. > First off, knowing their fascination with technology, they're not gonna go retro/lo-fi like that. I've always had the impression that they strive to be able to use whatever the latest technology is during the time period (hence why they acquired the Synclavier) Given the state of technology now, you can have your cake and eat it to... control surfaces exist that do interface with the latest and greatest digital recording environments to put the interactivity back into the composition/recording process. Heh, believe it or not most of your "guitar/rawk" groups use the technology as well - using a macintosh with protools to hook their preamps and mics etc.. up to the computer and voila! multiple takes, non-destructive editing and total freedom to reorganize and add elements to their music. all and all a good thing to yours truly allowing the artist more control over their work (conceptually speaking) All and all though with the technology available it still comes down to what one does with their gifts and vision... Jim J@home icq : 718010 aim : elektrikjones "again and again I've taken too much...." - New Order - True Faith # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) NEU! Date: 29 May 2001 12:38:57 +0200 Rolling Stone 6/2001 (german edition) features a two page report on the re-edited albums NEU!, NEU!2 and NEU!'75. Kraftwerk, Wolfgang and Conny Plank are mentioned there, too. Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 29 May 2001 13:42:25 +0200 JL Jones wrote: > All and all though with the technology available it still comes down > to what one does with their gifts and vision... Very true, but Kraftwerk is more. It's also a business, it's management, it's organizing things, it's going to court, it's selecting and getting to know new technology. Those things alone are a BIG job already. Then we expect the same people to find the time and energy and inspiration to be creative and bring us great new music. Well, that doesn't work all too often. Especialy with people like our Kraftwerkers, who like to be in control of everything. There simply isn't enough time in a human day to do everything. Rick Jansen __ rja@euronet.nl http://www.euronet.nl/~rja ____________________________________________ S&H's a module and s&h's looking good # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Ballet Statique Date: 29 May 2001 13:37:05 +0100 Familie de Haan wrote: > He, Kraftwerk heeft ook in het Japans gezongen, dus waarom niet alles in het > Japans? Let's stick to the Indo-Germanic dialects. :-) Ganz allein wrote: > > I'm selling these CD's: > > Conrad Schnitzler. Ballet Statique. 1992. The album which has the tracks 'Zug' and 'Metall 1'... but I think T.E.E. got there just ahead? Nice album, anyway. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Hello! Date: 29 May 2001 13:37:05 +0100 Omega Chance wrote: > I'm new here,=20 Welcome. > and I want to know more about this "Technopop" album...I only > got about 3 messages concerning it, and if someone could fill me in about= it > would be much appreciated. Someone has already taken the trouble to do so. O;-) See the last line of this email (or any other email on this list!) for a reminder of where you should look. Kaspar Larsen wrote: > Apparently, a shop somewhere was selling the > "Technopop" album as 500=A3 vinyl LP, hwich has sparked > a lot of questions. "Apparently" a shop "somewhere". It's interesting to see how rumours grow! :-O Here's what Matthew Dean actually wrote: > Subject: (kw) techno pop > Date: 22 May 2001 14:44:18 -0000 >=20 > I read in Later Magazine (UK) an article by Phil Jupitus, talking about > valuable vinyls. He said that Kraftwerk's Techno Pop is fetching 500 > pounds. But I thought it was never released? If anybody has it, can't > you stick it on CD and we can do trades, sell kidneys etc to get this??? >=20 > Matt (OmegaChance, you can find this and other recent posts in the online archives if you want more background). Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markus.berzborn@t-online.de (Markus Berzborn) Subject: Re: (kw) techno pop Date: 29 May 2001 16:13:53 +0200 > Again, I think that many people simply got (get) lost when they buy too much > or too fancy equipment. You spend all your energy and time working on the > system instead of making music. Right, but that's quite the same with large analog modular systems, although they permit a more intuitive approach. Anyway, it's the player, not the tools (I think, Klaus Schulze once said this). > What Kraftwerk did with a few old synths like > miniMoog, polymoog, prophet 5, an orchestron, nice expensive vocoders > and an old rhythm machine they have not really repeated after their last > "classic" album, Computer World. It is very satisfying too to fiddle with > a big system like Synclavier and the like, Electric Cafe is proof of that, > but it's difficult to keep up artistic output at the same time. > So, all in all, my advise would be: scrap the Synclavier, away with the > computer and Cubase, back to voltage control and good old handiwork > knob twiddling. Let us hear that Orchestron SING! Know what, it might work > too. As far as I know, Kraftwerk still use analog and virtual analog equipment quite extensively (Doepfer, Quasimidi), so don't worry... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: RE: (kw) william orbit remixes cd Date: 29 May 2001 13:10:31 -0700 Mike wrote: >Someone mentioned a while back about a German CD released produced by >Karl Bartos containing remixes by William Orbit. The person also gave a site >where I can order/buy it. Anyone recall the whats and wheres of this? You can find it online at: http://www.amazon.de Once there, search for William Orbit CD's Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: (kw) Thank you!! ;-) OT Date: 30 May 2001 21:08:56 -0400 ( ( ( THANK YOU ) ) ) !!!=20 Thanks 2 all the Kraftwerk fans that listened 2 my music at MP3.com!! = *G* "Q-Werk Kwk Mix" was #3 in the experimental catagory for a few days = and it is still in the top 10!!! ;-) After all you all are the ones who = can appreciate it the most huh!!! ;-) Thanx much!!! ;-) Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) New Album in June! Date: 30 May 2001 18:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Hey, I saw this on a musik news site (primarly focuses on electronic though) and had this posted on March 1, 2001. "The belgian EMI office confirmed us this afternoon that EMI is to release a brand new album by Kraftwerk in June. The release has no title yet, but we'll keep you informed on the matter. There's no news either whether there will be a single release as well." Anyone know anything about it? == Signed, omegaChance AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 9695138 EMAIL: Omega@Herzeleid.net www.OmegaChance.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Modular77@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) New Album in June! Date: 30 May 2001 22:41:00 EDT --part1_7c.168f90f8.2847093c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bullshit.. that record is never coming out. > > --part1_7c.168f90f8.2847093c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
bullshit.. that record is never coming out.




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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Robot DJ Date: 31 May 2001 10:07:56 +0200 Here's something for R & F to use before the conserts: http://www=2Ewired=2Ecom/news/culture/0,1284,43976,00=2Ehtml For u without a browser: DJ robot turns the tables A professor at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute is the man behind DJ I,=20= Robot, which is the first random-access, analog robotic DJ system=2E It's made=20= up of a computer and three turntables that can mix, scratch, cut, and=20= beat-juggle like a human discjockey=2E=20= "It's a new means of composition and competition," said Chris=20= Csikszentmihalyi (pronounced chick-sent-me-hi), an electronic arts professor=20= at RPI=2E "What's really been fun is coming across really strange sounds that=20= you're not expecting to and deciding that it's not really a negative, but a=20= positive=2E"=20= The machine is hardly musical or expressive=2E It doesn't have a collection of=20= old records it likes to scratch up=2E But it can spin platters up to 800=20= revolutions per minute, compared to 45 RPMs by a human hand=2E=20= To create the new mixes, 80 breakdance songs were pressed onto each record=2E=20= The location of each musical element -- such as a particular measure, beat or=20= audio sample -- is indexed on the computer=2E Programmers mix tracks by=20= dragging-and-dropping each element into a timeline on the computer, then an=20= analog motor spins the platter at the programmed speed and direction=2E=2E=2E=2E Full story at: http://www=2Ewired=2Ecom/news/culture/0,1284,43976,00=2Ehtml Regards/Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Date: 31 May 2001 11:30:08 -0000 Last night I was listening to BBC Radio 5 Live, and John 'Motty' Motson was reviewing 1981's FA Cup Final (which he commented on), but also played music from that year. Imagine my surprise when he played about 3 minutes of The Model, then anounced afterwards that it was The Model by Kraftwerk (although it sounded like 'Craft-work'). Yippee, the football commentator legend has spoken the divine name! And on a day when Martin Bell (formerly BBC News) came to my door and shook my hand, in his white suit (he's in the elections here in Ongar) Matt http://www.mattwerk.com Die hel van die noorde in Potchefstroom "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" Die Blouberge en Koppietjies "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" Ermelo en Middelburg "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" Laaste rit Pretoria "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georg Jajus Subject: Re: (kw) New Album in June! Date: 31 May 2001 13:39:50 +0200 Omega Chance schrieb: > Hey, I saw this on a musik news site (primarly focuses on electronic though) and had this posted on March 1, 2001. > > "The belgian EMI office confirmed us this afternoon that EMI is to release a brand new album by Kraftwerk in June. The release has no title yet, but we'll keep you informed on the matter. There's no news either whether there will be a single release as well." > > Anyone know anything about it? Come on, we had this "roumors" douzens of times, so forget it. As I wrote on the other KW-list: It's now nearly ten years that we hear these roumors about some "new stuff" *yawn*. If you ask me, I don't belive it anymore, I don't belive there will be any "official" piece of new music (well, there will be a lot of stuff at the optical discs of Kling Klang - if you're a good burglar, just try, I'll give you a one million bucks ;-) ). Kraftwerk wrote a part of musical histrory. They have their place in he "Hall of fame" (and of course, they deserve it). They don't have to "measure" with any other (actual) artist any more - and if a "new" Kraftwerk album wouldn't be sensational good, they could loose this competition (and damage their image). They're a legend - they want to keep it. Well, but I still have a wish: A really nice thing would be a DVD with the "Best of" Kraftwerk music in, each in it's original version. Georgie -- * http://members.blackbox.net/georgie/ * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "richard marston" Subject: (kw) Bartos Birthday Date: 31 May 2001 13:14:00 -0000 According to my calculations Karl is 49 today. Happy Birthday -- keep the pulse above 49 bpm! "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, but teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks." _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) Re: your mail Date: 31 May 2001 09:21:14 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 31 May 2001, Matthew Dean wrote: > by Kraftwerk (although it sounded like 'Craft-work'). Yippee, the Is it possible for English speakers to pronounce it any other way? :) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Review Date: 31 May 2001 18:33:51 +0200 According to a book review in today's Neue Z=FCrcher Zeitung, there's a chapter by Mercedes Bunz which seems to point out a kind of extended media theory, illustrated by Kraftwerk, Underground Resistance and Missy Elliott. If someone is interested: Jochen Bonz (Hg./ed.): Sound Signatures. Suhrkamp Verlag, Frankfurt/M. 2001. Review see http://www.nzz.ch/2001/05/31/fe/page-article7F7MN.html Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) It was a 31st of May of 1952! Date: 31 May 2001 15:19:19 +0200 Happy 49th birthday Karl Bartos! DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Claycomb Subject: Re: (kw) It was a 31st of May of 1952! Date: 31 May 2001 14:02:07 -0400 > From: "Der Automat" > > > Happy 49th birthday Karl Bartos! > > DER AUTOMAT Yeah..... Happy birthday Karl!! So does anyone actually think he will get these message!?!?! *LOL* Maybe he checks in every now and then huh! *LOL* Christian http://www.MP3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: Re: (kw) Re: your mail Date: 31 May 2001 20:56:32 +0200 Soleil Lapierre wrote: > > On Thu, 31 May 2001, Matthew Dean wrote: > > > by Kraftwerk (although it sounded like 'Craft-work'). Yippee, the > > Is it possible for English speakers to pronounce it any other way? :) Well, try this: CRUFT-VAIRK. And don't forget to speak the R this way, if you want to clean your throat ;-) Gunnar -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://mp3.de/home/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: FW: (kw) Florian Schneider in Barcelona tomorrow??? Date: 18 May 2001 23:57:28 -0400 Well I hope someone from this list will be there and ASK HIM=20 ABOUT THE NEW MATERIAL RUMOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So we can=20 finally know the truth straight from the MAN himself!!!!!! :-)=20 Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac >According to El Peri=F3dico de Catalunya, Uwe Schmidt says that=20 >"it's possible >that Florian Schneider will be at the Se=F1or Coconut concert tomorrow >saturday in La Paloma, Barcelona"... >Let's hope so!! >Oscar Callau >Journalist >>>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Pronounciations... Date: 31 May 2001 12:23:37 -0700 (PDT) About the e-mails sent about the announcer saying Craft-Work, and another one about no other way to pronounce it. I have asked this question to myself before but always pronounced it Kraftwerk (using the 'w'). But since Kraftwerk got its name from a local.."Kraftwerk" in Düsseldorf, wouldn't it be pronounced Kraft-verk? As the 'w' is pronounced as a 'v' in German... All my friends who like Kraftwerk, and the local DJ pronounce it Kraft-werk. Anyone know the proper way to pronouce it? Please excuse me if this was already discussed, but I cant go back into the archive, damn browser! == Signed, omegaChance AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 9695138 EMAIL: Omega@Herzeleid.net www.OmegaChance.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ola Andersson Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Pronounciations... Date: 31 May 2001 21:37:46 +0200 On Thursday 31 May 2001 21:23, you wrote: > About the e-mails sent about the announcer saying Craft-Work, and anoth= er > one about no other way to pronounce it. > > I have asked this question to myself before but always pronounced it > Kraftwerk (using the 'w'). > > But since Kraftwerk got its name from a local.."Kraftwerk" in D=FCsseld= orf, > wouldn't it be pronounced Kraft-verk? As the 'w' is pronounced as a 'v= ' in > German... > > All my friends who like Kraftwerk, and the local DJ pronounce it > Kraft-werk. > > Anyone know the proper way to pronouce it? Haven't you been to any of their concerts? Or heard some live bootlegs? The introduction voice pronounces it pretty good. :-) Heute abend, aus Deutchland, Die Mensch-Maschine, Kraftwerk.... --=20 Ola Andersson Research Engineer Department of Phonetics Umea University # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) It was a 31st of May of 1952! Date: 31 May 2001 21:50:25 +0200 > So does anyone actually think he will get these message!?!?! *LOL* Maybe he > checks in every now and then huh! *LOL* Yeah, and maybe there will be a new album this year... -- Remember when you computer gives an error, it's because: the stack can dip into the heap for just a few cycles and not be caught by the stack sniffer - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 31 May 2001 21:51:31 +0200 you never learn, do you Matt... -- signatures are for losers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Callau_Mu=F1oz=2C_Oscar=22?= Subject: (kw) Florian Schneider in Barcelona tomorrow??? Date: 18 May 2001 10:29:37 +0200 According to El Peri=F3dico de Catalunya, Uwe Schmidt says that "it's = possible that Florian Schneider will be at the Se=F1or Coconut concert tomorrow saturday in La Paloma, Barcelona"... Let's hope so!! Oscar Callau Journalist # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) the KorreKt pronunciation of the word KRAFTWERK in english is ... POWER_STATION_!!! *XLG* ;-))) Date: 31 May 2001 23:16:27 +0200 hi kwf's ! hey , isn't it a funny thing that we discuss the KorreKt pronunciation of the word KRAFTWERK by now ??? *G+* ;-) btw : i still have the bet runnin' with edwin ( are u on this list too , mate ??? ;-) about their "new stuff" ... comin' out in sept. this year !!! *slyest_grin* ;-))) now playin' : "tanzmusik" from their 1973 album "ralf & florian" ( the nucleus ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Florian Schneider in Barcelona tomorrow??? Date: 19 May 2001 12:57:32 +0200 my mate "cee cee" ( a.k.a. Christian Claycomb ;-) wrote : > Well I hope someone from this list will be there and ASK HIM > ABOUT THE NEW MATERIAL RUMOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > So we can finally know the truth straight from the MAN himself!!!!!! :-) well ... not a bad idea in itself , but ... if i may take a guess at what florian then would say to u , i suppose that it would be somethin' like this : "hmmm ... have u heard this rumors from one of the guys at emi ??? well ... u better ask ralf about it , because he's mr. KraftwerK !!!" *LOL* ;-))) yeah , florian is still "a really smart(a**) guy" ... imho !!! *XLG* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: (kw) Old e-mail Date: 31 May 2001 18:16:31 -0400 Anybody else still getting strings of old e-mail from this list? I am.. = it's like deja vu all over again! *LOL*=20 Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) Fw: ERROR - failed mail Date: 01 Jun 2001 01:05:20 +0200 hi kwf's ! HUH_??? *puzzled_look* ?-o erm ... well ... can somebody ( "shaun" ??? ;-) please explain this to me ... because THIS particular message was nearly two weeks old by now !!! *still_puzzled_look* ?-o however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:54 AM > Your email has not been sent. NO MORE ATTEMPTS WILL BE MADE. Check the address carefully and try again. > > Received: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:30:05 +0100 > From: oh_jay@freenet.de > To: shaun > SentTo: > Subject: Re: (kw) Florian Schneider in Barcelona tomorrow??? > Status: Too many hops > > -- > Igloo mailer > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Pitt" Subject: (kw) Robots 91 video Date: 01 Jun 2001 01:09:32 +0100 Hi, The promo video for The Robots (1991 version) has been posted up on Tour De Kraft for those who wish to download it. Also I have replaced the existing Trans Europe Express video with one from MTV2 which is complete from the first to the last second. Note that this version is Trans EUROPA Express, (i.e.. German language version). enjoy, Mike. http://website.lineone.net/~mike.pitt/tdk.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Folkvord [Hyperion Media]" Subject: SV: (kw) Robots 91 video Date: 01 Jun 2001 03:26:44 +0200 Hi Mike, Is it possible to have these videos in Realvideo format? Those MPGs or whatever you have there are awfully big for us dial-up'ers. Best whishes, Glenn Editor @ http://www.electronicshadows.com Editor @ http://www.jmjfkn.com http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/newtrax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Re: your mail Date: 31 May 2001 20:04:36 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 31 May 2001, Gunnar Wess wrote: > Well, try this: CRUFT-VAIRK. And don't forget to speak the R this way, > if you want to clean your throat ;-) Heh. And here I thought DJs were just being wankers when they pronounced it that way. It sounds really dumb when English speakers try to affect a serious German accent. :) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Old e-mail Date: 31 May 2001 20:06:26 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 31 May 2001, Christian Claycomb wrote: > Anybody else still getting strings of old e-mail from this list? I > am.. it's like deja vu all over again! *LOL* It's not old email, it's new email about the same old topics. :) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) NEU! reissues Date: 01 Jun 2001 04:19:10 +0000 The three NEU! CD reissues are now out on EMI Electrola / Groenland: 1) NEU! (EMI 7243 5 30780 2 7) 2) NEU! 2 (EMI 7243 5 30781 2 6) 3) NEU! '75 (EMI 7243 5 30782 2 5) The artwork is more or less identical to the original vinyl artwork. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/