From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #28 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, December 24 1997 Volume 02 : Number 028 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 15:56:44 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) Rammstein: "Das Modell" Promo Video Just who is/are Rammstein? There was a li'l snippet about them in the latest Epulse from Tower Records. It seems that Slash/Warner Bros. has picked them up for the USA, but that's all I know about them. What's the 411? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:30:20 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) Re: HELP KRAFTWERK HELP KRAFTWERK?? Are they in trouble? Call McGyver! No, wait a minute, McGyver's TRAPPED (better help him too)! (Montage of ragged, shoeless Ralf and Florian wandering through the streets of Duesseldorf) You can help these unfortunate Mensch-Maschines by sending a donation to the Displaced Robots Fund... These poor souls have been evicted from their own studio by Kling Klang, which has decided to go it alone... (There is no truth to the rumor that Kling Klang has hooked up with Guardian in the former USSR and is planning world domination through music. Did I phrase that properly, Kling Klang? Thank you)... :-))))) - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY, Sandy Becker's Page: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:06:22 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Fw: (kw) Re: HELP KRAFTWERK > From: Christopher Gross > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: (kw) Re: HELP KRAFTWERK > Date: Saturday, December 20, 1997 7:30 AM > > -(quoting Frank Schelter )- > HELP KRAFTWERK?? > > Are they in trouble? Call McGyver! No, wait a minute, McGyver's TRAPPED > (better help him too)! > > (Montage of ragged, shoeless Ralf and Florian wandering through the streets of Duesseldorf) [SNIP] *HeeHee* ROTFLM@O!!!! I wrote a letter to Frank Schelter, assuming he was merely asking for info about KW. I haven't heard from him. In any case, I like the silly scenarios that have popped up recently! Yeah- let's HELP KRAFTWERK do their NEW Album! Synchronize Pocket Calculators.... Off topic, but, possibly of interest to Electronic Music Fans in General.... ORBITRONIK *LIVE*! on the Net! TooNite! A local guy in Arcata, CA -(next town North of Eureka)- and a guy in Chicago are gonna JAM together on the Net!! There are other bands playing before ORBITRONIK, so, the whole thing is supposed to start at 8 or 9 pm, Chicago time. -(Central Standard Time, GMT - 6, I think)- There's been conflicting info on the WebSite, so, I'm not sure of the time. Here's the URL if ya wanna check it out.... http://staff.interaccess.com/bondo/LABsite/newevents3.html ......Well, it's supposed to be there, "in the LAB". ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:18:21 -0500 From: Regor@webtv.net (R. D.) Subject: Re: (kw) Automatic translations. Thanks for giving us the linK to this translation page. I tried it on 3 KW related german articles and it was fun. I didn't get the translation of the whole articles and it was hard to decipher, but at least I could understand SOMETHING. I hope they improve that service in the future. Thanks again. - -- Roger. Regor@webtv.net rd411@yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:29:34 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Automatic translations. On 21-Dec-97, R. D. wrote: >I tried it on 3 KW related german articles and it was fun. I didn't get I haven't tried using the translator yet, but I've been trying to translate an article that Klaus has online (the 'Soundcheck' article) manually. It's interesting that Ralf's part of the interview has been harder to translate, since Karl's interview has more slang and one would expect it to be more esoteric. He sounds critical in a good-natured way, describing the KW working situation as 'autistic', but coming up with a few funny turns of phrase as well... Hope my last posting wasn't too esoteric, by the way-- 'Guardian' is a supercomputer featured in the '70s film 'Colossus: The Forbin Project'... Colossus communicated via vocoder, a la Kling Klang... (I've spoiled the joke...) - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY, Sandy Becker's Page: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:24:12 -0000 From: Mike Morgan Subject: (kw) picture disks and Automatic translations if anyone is interested. I noticed that Sister records in berwick st. London has the picture disk of autobahn in stock for ?20 UK and also the "THE REMIX" CD of rather average bootleg remixes in stock for ?15. Looked like they only had 1 copy of the pic disk and 2 copies of the CD. After seeing all the postings about MOUSE ON MARS I found a copy of their first CD single there too called FROSH. It's fab! And I think I'll look for some more of their stuff if this is the type of music that they are producing ! PS I really laughed when I saw the auto translation of the showroom dummies lyrics. Somehow I think the reinterpretation is better than the original ! Cheers.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 15:59:16 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Rammstein: "Das Modell" Promo Video > Just who is/are Rammstein? German rock group, was characterized as "Laibach fake" on alt.music.nin yesterday. Some basic Rammstein information can be found on their official web site, www.rammstein.com. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 08:35:18 -0800 (PST) From: stephenv@sirius.com (stephen vesecky) Subject: (kw) my NY vacation hey: a while back somebody on the list mentioned something about an art-sound gallery that they have in new york, where you walk around and the sound changes in your ears as you walk around. if it isn't too much trouble, could whoever mentioned it tell me its location, because i'd like to check it out when i go there for christmas. thanks stephen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:55:25 +0100 From: Josef Gabler Subject: Re: (kw) KW's Olympic 2nd Edition - Available In message ID <19971211.001752.4590.5.llacost@juno.com> on 11.12.97,=20 Larry R LaCost Jr. wrote:=20 >From host: magnet v3.1 Wien=20 >Posted to conference: MailBox=20 >Message 101 11.12.97 09:13=20 >Subject: (kw) KW's Olympic 2nd Edition - Available=20 >From: Larry R LaCost Jr. ,Inet=20 >To: kraftwerk@xmission.com,Inet=20 >=20 >=20 >Based on the numerous responses, I am making available - KW's Olympic=20 2nd=20 >Edition=85 I think you'll find this to be an enjoyable CD. Some of the=20 >enhancements are as follows=85 sound improvements on tracks=20 1,2,5,6,7,9=85=20 >track 5 has been adjusted to the correct speed. =20 =B0-=B0 Hi Larry!=20 - -=B0 Absolutely GREAT! I=B4m looking forward to hear your work.=20 For you techno-buffs out there, I'll be using TDK=20 >high quality CD-Rs. =20 - -=B0 One Question: Is there (and if, what) really a difference between=20 Trademarkk- CD=B4 Rs=20 - -=B0 and no name - ones? I often use those no name discs and think=20 they=B4re working correct.=20 >The great aim I have in this disk is for the appreciation for the=20 band. I=20 >personally will not profit from this disk. Any and all profits made=20 will=20 >go to Shriner's Hospital for Burned & Crippled Children. "For the=20 >greatest of these is charity."=20 =20 - -=B0 Very good idea.=20 >=20 >Thank you very much for your attention and if you have any questions,=20 >feel free to email me.=20 =B0-=B0 Last Question. Is it "early enough" to send you my payment=20 after the first week in January?=20 >=20 >Larry R. LaCost Jr.=20 =B0-=B0 Best Regards=20 - -=B0 Josef=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _________________In=20 _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ =20 =20 _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ =20 =20 =20 sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:32:56 -0500 From: "Schmidt, Philipp, BMG - NY1540" Subject: (kw) HELP FRANK >HELP KRAFTWERK I agree. But maybe somebody should also help Frank. >philipp.schmidt@bmge.com< >212 930 4760< # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:44:07 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Michael Rother News The January issue of Keyboards contains some Michael Rother information: 1. Cleopatra is preparing a NEU! tribute album with cover versions of the old NEU! tracks plus a contribution from Michael Rother himself. 2. A new Michael Rother solo album is scheduled for early 1998. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:12:45 +0100 From: "Charlie Crash" <303@iname.com> Subject: (kw) My add is temporarly changed =AE0|=E1=D1=F0 =86b=AD 303@iname.com http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-62549 It is for the moment: skinny@iname.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:43:46 +0100 From: Timour.JGENTI@ifp.fr (Timour JGENTI) Subject: Re: (kw) Automatic translations This online automatic translator is definitely very funny. Here is a sample translation of an old news article in german "Keyboards" announcing zkm event: power station comes to the initialization zkm For the initialization of the center for art and medium technology on 18 October 1997 power station will occur for the first time for many years again in Germany. :-) Tim. - -- Timour JGENTI | Institut Francais du Petrole _______________|___________________________________ _______________| mailto:timour.jgenti@ifp.fr _______________| http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 04:13:08 -0000 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) picture disks and Automatic translations >if anyone is interested. I noticed that Sister records in berwick st.=20 London has the picture disk of autobahn in stock for ?20 UK and also the = "THE REMIX" CD of rather average bootleg remixes in stock for ?15. < Just to add to this....I recently looked around most of the Soho record = shops and noticed they were well stocked up with Kraftwerk CD's - = mostly reasonably priced. In the UK Kraftwerk Cd's are usually very = expensive from the large chain stores. 15 pounds an album is not = unusual. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 04:12:52 -0000 From: **************** Subject: (kw) NME UK I have a number of reservations about the NME article stating that = Kraftwerk will play at Southbank in Feb/Mar and release a new album in = 1998. These are: 1) NME quoted Hutter, who claimed to be "hard at work" in Kling-Klang = making a new album. Bussy disputes Kraftwerks hard working Kling-Klang = sessions, claiming that often the band sat around drinking coffee all = day. 2) Three new tracks have already emerged. So what? With Technopop a = whole album was recorded, test pressings were produced and a catalogue = number was assigned. Despite all this the album was never officially = released. 3) The new tracks have received a mixed reception. The publicly played = tracks are probably considered the best of the material which has been = recorded for the new album. Frankly, some fans on this list have = rubbished the new material beyond a reasonable level. 4) The boat is leaving the port. Electronic dance music has probably now = peaked in this current cycle. Releasing a new album into a shrinking = market would spell disaster for Kraftwerk. Just think, a new Kraftwerk = album and nobody turns up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:41:08 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Rumours of a forthcoming concert Hi everyone, I've resubscribed as it's the Xmas vaction, I have two weeks off and therefore plenty of time to catch up (and hopefully keep up) with the list again. Here's a brief introduction for any new members who've joined since I left: My name is Jon Alsbury, age 26, a web applications developer at the University of North London. I have been a fan of Kraftwerk for over half my life. I expect you already aware, but there's a rumour going around that KW will make an appearance at a week long electronic music festival to be held at London's South Bank complex in March '98. I also understand this story has been reported in NME, did anyone see it? I have a gut feeling about this one -- i believe it's going to happen! I've also noticed recently that many record stores in London are well very stocked with Kraftwerk titles, including German imports. This may simply be down to Christmas, or maybe it's an indication that EMI are seriously expecting to promote a new Kraftwerk album in the next few months. Jono. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:51:08 -0800 From: llacost@juno.com (Larry R LaCost Jr.) Subject: (kw) Track times on Olympic 2nd Edition For those who are interested, here are the track times: 1. Technopop (1983) 5:01 2. Computer World (12" German) 5:04 3. The Telephone Call (Satellite Link Mix) 7:45 4. Tour De France (Live Breath Mix) 8:20 5. Number/Computer World (Tribal Gathering 1997) 8:24 * 6. Radioactivity (Tribal Gathering 1997) 7:46 7. The Robots (Tribal Gathering 1997) 9:22 8. Trans Europa Express (Live Zurich 1991) 10:56 9. Tour De France (Original Version) 6:35 10. Technopop (Bonus track... not found on the original Olympic CD) 4:27 * Track 5 has been adjusted to the CORRECT speed. If anyone is still interested in this CD, please email me and I will give you complete information on acquiring a copy. Thanks Larry R. LaCost Jr. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 05:19:17 -0700 From: Farki Subject: Re: (kw) Track times on Olympic 2nd Edition >For those who are interested, here are the track times: > >1. Technopop (1983) 5:01 >2. Computer World (12" German) 5:04 >3. The Telephone Call (Satellite Link Mix) 7:45 >4. Tour De France (Live Breath Mix) 8:20 >5. Number/Computer World (Tribal Gathering 1997) 8:24 * >6. Radioactivity (Tribal Gathering 1997) 7:46 >7. The Robots (Tribal Gathering 1997) 9:22 >8. Trans Europa Express (Live Zurich 1991) 10:56 >9. Tour De France (Original Version) 6:35 >10. Technopop (Bonus track... not found on the original Olympic CD) 4:27 Well, I like the idea of 2. edition, but first I want to receive my copy of 1st edition... I sent the money to that man who organised the Olympic-trade (in july, or so...), and he even wrote back that he received the money, but till then... hmm... ahem... no CD, and no answers to my letters. BTW, I wish all of you a happy Christmas! :) - Farki - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 00:08:12 -0000 From: **************** Subject: (kw) A Christmas fax from Ralf The following fax from RH to Florian Schneider........ This will not do Florian, the Spice Girls have the UK Christmas No1 = again. We'll have to do something about that next year - why don't we = cover 'White Christmas' next year. But worse still.......the Spice Girls = are releasing a film called Spice World on Boxing Day. We need to make a = film, any ideas Florian - I thought of 'Transistor World' or 'Robot = Power'. We should be bigger than God, but there we are languishing in = the 'where are they now' category.=20 Perhaps we need more publicity. Any ideas, I thought we could send all = our fans on that mailing list a Christmas card (attached to a signed = copy of Technopop).=20 Any way, here's wishing you and your numerous girlfriends a very happy = christmas. I'm off taking the robots cycling. Ralf (mode.123)=00=00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 09:02:52 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Track times on Olympic 2nd Edition On Wed, 24 Dec 1997 05:19:17 -0700 Farki writes: > > > >Well, I like the idea of 2. edition, but first I want to receive my >copy of >1st edition... >I sent the money to that man who organised the Olympic-trade (in july, >or >so...), and he >even wrote back that he received the money, but till then... hmm... >ahem... >no CD, >and no answers to my letters. > >BTW, I wish all of you a happy Christmas! :) > > - Farki - ur not alone my friend.... tom w np: invisible soundtracks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 15:03:40 +0000 From: MIKE TAYLOR Subject: (kw) The Robots I have recently purchased a 12" copy of The Robots. (Not Unusual) This is an advance promotion copy marked "not for sale" The number on the record is 12EMDJ 192. Can anyone tell me how rare this is, it has a blank B side. Thanks Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 03:54:26 -0000 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Track times on Olympic 2nd Edition >>even wrote back that he received the money, but till then... hmm...=20 ahem no CD, and no answers to my letters.<< >your not alone my friend....< Another rip-off merchant then. Why can't someone notify this list who = are the reputable traders and who aren't. Personally, I would never buy = anything from someone offering bargains onh this list. MY ADVICE is to = ignore all offers. Especially those which claim to offer exclusive remix = albums or rarities such as the Technopop album.=20 I would suggest that anyone in England would be better off searching the = record shops and markets in London than the Internet. Soho, Camden = Market and Portobello Road Market stock many bootleg and rarity albums = at reasonable prices.=20 mode.123 wishes you all a Happy Christmas =00=00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 19:14:16 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) The Robots MIKE TAYLOR wrote: >I have recently purchased a 12" copy of The Robots. >(Not Unusual) This is an advance promotion copy marked "not for sale" >The number on the record is 12EMDJ 192. Can anyone tell me how rare this= =20 >is, it has a blank B side. > I also have a copy of this vinyl. I paid about 15 pounds for it some 4 years back, but I have no idea what it's current value is. Tell me, does your copy have the following hand written inscription on the blank side:- "pop - RH,FS" I'm intrigued to find out what this is. ciao, - ------------------------------------ Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #28 ******************************