From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #61 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Sunday, February 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 061 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:53:45 -0500 From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: [none] To: kraftwerk Soleil "Ra" Lapierre : I can see how you get from Beach Boys to Autobahn, and from The Model to Barbie Girl, but I still think there's a roadblock between Autobahn and The Model. Me: okay, think of it this way then: it's the same road you take from "fun, fun, fun," by the beach boys to "good vibrations", caroline no, etc... it's called evolution of an idea, or theme. all the "major elements" are present in many early beach boys, (and kraftwerk) songs. you have harmony,surf beat,(BB) electronic experementation, minimalism (kw). and, if you're the beach boys, kraftwerk, the beatles, or whomever, you move from that base, and evolve, refine, and experiment. there's NO WAY i'd be ashamed or embarrassed by my earlier works, if i were any of the above mentioned artists, even if they only slightly resemble what follows. the beatles are a good example. they used the technology at hand in the very beginning. nothing too "ground breaking" about it. as time went on, different recording and musical techniques were explored, (from guitar feedback, to tape manipulation, different styles of music,etc.). the "white album" bares little resemblence to "with the beatles". likewise with kraftwerk. as i said in my earlier posting reguarding this topic, each album, (each song, actually) puts you in a particular space, (and time). "radioactive" reminds me SO much of tuning in my short wave that it's amazing. likewise, autobahn reminds me of a pleasant road trip. all of the later period songs have a similar effect (to varying degrees). some songs are more playful, (autobahn, pocket calculator), others are "darker". if they wanted to be the ramones and crank out identical albums forever, they could have. (not that it's a bad thing, GABBA GABBA HEY!!) but, their "muse" led them to evolve, and change. throwing away autobahn, is like disowning your own childhood. like it or not, it was the period that got you to today. if you prefer to think of the early works as "sketches" or whatever, that's fine. to have the opinion that there's no link, or that the value of the early works is negligable in comparison to latter works is fine. i'm just explaining what i think. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:54:58 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) Email change - again! :-( Attention! Jules is changing his email addy yet again. Please amend your address books, filofaxes, digital diaries, post it notes, knotted handkerchiefs, toilet paper, etc. It will now be:- jseifert@technologist.com ciao, - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- Jules Seifert #kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:58:45 -0600 From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: Re another bounced messageRe: (kw) KW mention At 09:08 AM 2/12/98 EST, Bill wrote: [Quoting an earlier post of mine here in the first paragraph] >>I was listening a lot to a top 40 oriented station at the time, >>myself, and I distinctly remember that they repeatedly played a 5-7 >>minute cut of "Autobahn" fairly frequently there for a while during >>late '74 or early '75. > >Where did you live? It may well have been prempted in my >area...between the Motown and other Detroit stuff, plus the Canadian >stuff...it may well have gotten pushed off the air. St. Louis, Missouri, which is where I still live FWIW. I forget the call letters of the station (it's long gone by now), but it did have the distinction of being the first FM station in the St. Louis area to move to a "top 40" playlist. Best regards, - -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:27:44 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) TENTtropolis! Anyone going to the Roskilde Festival fancy a Kraftwerk camp-out? We could all sing Ging Gang Gooley, etc..............;-) ciao, - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- Jules Seifert #kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:20:47 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) Falco ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/falco-nachtflug.mp3 - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:53:14 +0000 From: Glen Subject: (kw) (KW) Kosmiche In message , Jon Alsbury writes >Ah ha - good old Joe Meek - I used to live in a flat on the Holloway Road >(number 302b) that was next door to the one Joe used as a studio in the >sixties. Speaking of the Holloway Road (London, England BTW!) - right at the bottom of it is a club called The Garage on Highbury Corner who, once a month are hosts to a "Krautrock" club entitled "Kosmiche." The last one featured a live set by Appliance, Faust tour footage, hyper-psychedelic lights and film plus ingenious, thrilling remixes of standards by the likes of Kraftwerk and Can which the crowd go mad for. I turn up every time now to see which KW tune they're gonna twist the hell out of. London KW fans should definately check this place out. - -- Leisure # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:10:25 -0500 From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Re: So what should Active-K feature next? >>> Sch=E4der Eric wrote: > > The sound of Ralf snoring at the Klingklang studio (ha - just > > kidding) > > > Too bad. I would have used it as my signature when booting ;-). <<<;-))))) >>> > > I'd really like to hear your suggestions. I've got a pretty > > *inhumane* collection of stuff > Wasn't there a new intro to Aetherwellen at ZKM ? <<>> > > I'm also thinking of creating a special 'Kraftwerk List' exclusive > > MIDI version of Music Non-Stop [...] > Well you know me. I'd love to hear it. Just don't sit up all night agai= n > ;-). << Subject: (kw) Re: So what should Active-K feature next? > The 1990 Bologna Concert (all songs differ from The Mix tour versions) yeah, Computer Love from the Bologna concert - that's the one for me! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 03:52:05 +0100 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... >to Barbie Girl, but I still think there's a roadblock between Autobahn >and The Model. you still don't want to understand, eh? :-)) tere was Autobahn, right? still experimenting but more disciplined and more electrical than its predecessors. the "concept album" idea begin to come out. then RA, more "conceptuous", more electric and with an hit single or two of the right lenght. then TEE and *only then* MM... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:30:42 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, lbo wrote: > >to Barbie Girl, but I still think there's a roadblock between Autobahn > >and The Model. > > you still don't want to understand, eh? :-)) I still don't understand. I'm going to have to chalk it up to personal taste and having-to-be-there symdrome. Until the next time I bring up the subject. :) > tere was Autobahn, right? still experimenting but more disciplined and > more electrical than its predecessors. the "concept album" idea begin to > come out. > then RA, more "conceptuous", more electric and with an hit single or two of > the right lenght. > then TEE and *only then* MM... :-) And your point is...? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:26:29 -0800 From: **************** Subject: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire Sir George Martin is to retire. His final recording will be an album of = Beatles songs performed by artists as diverse as Vanessa-Mae and Sean = Connery. During the 1960's Martin became known as the fifth Beatle and is widely = acknowledged to be as influential as Lennon and Macartney. In the 1980's = Martin produced material by Ultravox, which was inspired largely by = Kraftwerk. Without the Beatles there could have been NO Kraftwerk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:28:55 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Re: So what should Active-K feature next? Sir George Martin is to retire. His final recording will be an album of = Beatles songs performed by artists as diverse as Vanessa-Mae and Sean = Connery. During the 1960's Martin became known as the fifth Beatle and is widely = acknowledged to be as influential as Lennon and Macartney. In the 1980's = Martin produced material by Ultravox, which was inspired largely by = Kraftwerk. Without the Beatles there could have been NO Kraftwerk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:24:44 +0100 From: "gunnar@gunnar.net" Subject: (kw) Roskilde 1998 Roskilde Festival 25, 26, 27, 28 june 1998 Following bands are released for 1998: Ash (UK) Baal (DK) Beastie Boys (US) BENTLEY RHYTHM ACE(UK) Bleeder (DK) DEATH IN VEGAS(UK) DEFTONES(US) DJs KRUDER & DORFMEISTER (A) Finley Quaye (UK) Fu Manchu(US) Garbage (US) JON SPENCER BLUES EXPLOSION (US) JULIAN & DAMIAN MARLEY (JAM) KRAFTWERK (D) LISA EKDAHL(S) Lois (DK) Mighty Mighty Bosstones (US) Mogwai (UK) Moonspell (P) NATASHA ATLAS (EGY) Nikolaj N=F8rlund (DK) REEL BIG FISH ROCKET FROM THE CRYPT(US) Seigmen (N) Speaker Bite Me (DK) Spiritualized (UK) Weeping Willows More info: http://www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/english/index.htm - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar R Johansson http://www.gunnar.net gunnar@gunnar.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:29:25 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire Mode wrote: > > Without the Beatles there could have been NO Kraftwerk. > he he... And without Mode.123 , there could have been no excitement on this list... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:12:30 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) (KW) Kosmiche >Speaking of the Holloway Road (London, England BTW!) - right at the bottom of it is a club called The Garage on Highbury Corner who, once a month are hosts to a "Krautrock" club entitled "Kosmiche." The last one featured a live set by Appliance, Faust tour footage, hyper-psychedelic lights and film plus ingenious, thrilling remixes of standards by the likes of Kraftwerk and Can which the crowd go mad for. I turn up every time now to see which KW tune they're gonna twist the hell out of. London KW fans should definately check this place out.< This sounds good. Please can you let us London fans know when the next = Krautrock evening will be. Is it a good night for pulling nice girls?? mode.123 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:09:49 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire Mode wrote: >> >> Without the Beatles there could have been NO Kraftwerk. >> jbv wrote: >he he... And without Mode.123 , there could have been no excitement on >this list... Thank you for your kind (and truthful) words. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:22:56 -0800 From: **************** Subject: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE*** What has happened to Ace Of Base?? Their first album was a massive international success, their second album less so. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:16:39 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... jbv thoughtfully hypothesised: >As for music evolution chain, (almost) everybody seems to agree on the following : Stockhausen -> KW -> techno< I'll correctly state: Beatles ->KW->techno/synthpop/electronica/cultural revolution # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:19:40 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) FALCO: In Loving Memory >SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) -- Falco, a classical music prodigy who turned to pop music and had a 1986 hit with "Rock Me Amadeus," has died in a traffic accident, officials said Saturday. He was 40. < Falco was Mozart's re-incarnation. Watch out for new Austrian electroinc bands! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:08:28 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE*** **************** wrote: > > What has happened to Ace Of Base?? > Their overdue style has been repackaged under the name of Aqua... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:49:37 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) KW and the Beatles Mode wrote: >> = >> Without the Beatles there could have been NO Kraftwerk. >> = Mmmh... Don't think so. The Beatles used to play in Hamburg, not D=FCsseldorf. And that was in the early 60s, when R&F were still quite young. So, for these 2 good reasons, it's very unlikely that R&F could have been exposed to the music of the Beatles... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:03:05 +0100 From: "Fer" Subject: RE: (kw) KW and the Beatles >>> The Beatles used to play in Hamburg, not D=FCsseldorf. And that was i= n the early 60s, when R&F were still quite young. So, for these 2 good reasons, it's very unlikely that R&F could have been exposed to the music of the Beatles... <<< How about buying the records? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:32:09 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Happy Valentine's Day! Check my Title Page! For a "simple" looking image, my husband, Kingsnake, put a LOT of effort into it- pixel by pixel. -(The scanner is off-line and the CAD software wouldn't cooperate.)- I just told him what design I wanted and he slaved ALL night to put it up for me as a Valentine's Day present. Check it out QUICK before the power goes out and knocks out the server.... Happy Valentine's Day, meine Liebchener! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:45:58 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire On 14-Feb-98, **************** wrote: >During the 1960's Martin became known as the fifth Beatle and is widely >acknowledged to be as influential as Lennon and Macartney. In the 1980's >Martin produced material by Ultravox, which was inspired largely by Kraftwerk. The Beatles were almost produced by German bandleader/composer Bert Kaempfert, but he didn't feel he had enough time to produce them properly and Martin later got the job. Kaempfert wrote 'Strangers In the Night', 'A Swingin' Safari', 'L-O-V-E', and 'Spanish Eyes',; I wonder how things would have turned out musically if he hadn't turned down the gig... BTW, I've always liked 'Afrikaan Beat' and 'Danke Schoen'... :-) - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY, Sandy Becker's Page: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:53:38 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: RE: (kw) FALCO: In Loving Memory On 15-Feb-98, **************** wrote: >>SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) -- Falco, a classical music prodigy >who turned to pop music and had a 1986 hit with "Rock Me Amadeus," has died >in a traffic accident, officials said Saturday. He was 40. < Sorry to hear that. 'Der Komissar'(sp?) was great (I thought his original was much better than ATF's English translation...) I was looking forward to hearing more from him in the future. There was a parody of 'Amadeus' circulating around at the time-- a Weird Al-type thing (I forget who recorded it) called 'Rock Me Jerry Lewis'! LADYYY... LA LA LA... - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY, Sandy Becker's Page: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:24:51 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Electronic instrument questions (off-topic) 1. Recently, I turned on my Alesis HR-16, and all of my drum patterns vansished!!!! I lost 10 years of work. Is there any way to restore this? 2. Do all of the classic Roland drum machines, besides the TR-808, have "TR" as a prefix? Thanks in advance. Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:58:16 -0500 From: tangram Subject: (kw) (no subject) im searching for those pix which twingo and jbw posted lately (sorry i could b wrong bout those nicks) thanx! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 19:28:09 -0500 From: "J.T." Subject: (kw) Upcoming Kraftwerk concert Could someone post information about the location of the Kraftwerk concert coming up this summer. I have a friend in London, England who would like to know. Thanks. Regards, - -John 'efofex' Talbert ______________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:27:55 EST From: SRRecords@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Electronic instrument questions (off-topic) In a message dated 2/14/98 11:49:04 PM, you wrote: <<2. Do all of the classic Roland drum machines, besides the TR-808, have "TR" as a prefix? >> No. The "Compu-Rhythm" line has the CR prefix - the "Transistor-Rhythm" has the TR prefix. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 22:16:08 -0700 From: "Greg Heil" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys > jbv thoughtfully hypothesised: > > >As for music evolution chain, (almost) everybody seems to agree on > the following : > > Stockhausen -> KW -> techno< > > I'll correctly state: > > Beatles ->KW->techno/synthpop/electronica/cultural revolution > > hmmm.. I think: Beatles ->TD/KW->Disco->Synthpop->Techno->Electronica->70's Revival->Unplugged Movement Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 03:42:51 -0500 From: tangram Subject: (kw) (no subject) just out of my very own curiosity... has anyone on this list ever heard of Manuel Goettsching? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:28:25 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Electronic instrument questions (off-topic) >1. Recently, I turned on my Alesis HR-16, and all of my drum patterns >vanished!!!! I lost 10 years of work. Is there any way to restore this? Sorry Adam, there's no way to recover your data. It sounds to me like the internal battery has run down. You need to take your Alesis to a dealer and get a new one fitted (or DIY). You did dump your data to tape, didn't you? >2. Do all of the classic Roland drum machines, besides the TR-808, have >"TR" as a prefix? No. Check out the CR- series. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 10:31:32 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire jbv wrote: >he he... And without Mode.123 , there could have been no excitement on >this list... you mean *excrement* surely? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:45:37 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire Jon Alsbury wrote: >jbv wrote: >>he he... And without Mode.123 , there could have been no excitement on >>this list... > >you mean *excrement* surely? :-) Not sure, but it must be even greater if he'd send his mails with correct time/timezone setting. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 12:12:06 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Kosmiche Yeah, I've been to Kosmiche several times, though not for a couple of months. It used to be held fortnightly, alternating with 'club v'. Are you sure it's monthly now? For those yet to check out club Kosmiche, the punters range from trendy young clubbers to spaced out old hippies, with people like me in between! It's very laid back and friendly - It's not uncommon for large numbers of people to just sit on the dance floor. There's no dress code or bullshit like that, and drunkenness and lecherous behaviour is practically unheard of. It's really good! If any listies are interested in going to the next one, email me and we'll sort it out. The usual arrangement is to meet in pub on Holloway Road or Upper Street before hand, have a couple of drinks and then trot up to the Garage about 11pm (Kosmiche doesn't usually start untill 10.30pm). Oh yeah, and the club is actually held in the upstairs part of the Garage, the way in being a small door to the left of the main entrance. BTW, out of interest, are there any UNL staff or students on this list? >Speaking of the Holloway Road (London, England BTW!) - right at the >bottom of it is a club called The Garage on Highbury Corner who, once a >month are hosts to a "Krautrock" club entitled "Kosmiche." The last one >featured a live set by Appliance, Faust tour footage, hyper-psychedelic >lights and film plus ingenious, thrilling remixes of standards by the >likes of Kraftwerk and Can which the crowd go mad for. I turn up every >time now to see which KW tune they're gonna twist the hell out of. >London KW fans should definitely check this place out. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:46:53 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire > Jon Alsbury wrote: > >jbv wrote: > >>he he... And without Mode.123 , there could have been no excitement on > >>this list... > > > >you mean *excrement* surely? :-) > Hiroshi MURATA wrote: > Not sure, but it must be even greater if he'd send his mails > with correct time/timezone setting. ;-) No, actually it's really great the way it is, coz Mode often lives in a different time zone (and sometimes in a parallel universe...). jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:29:55 +0900 From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire >Hiroshi MURATA wrote: >> Not sure, but it must be even greater if he'd send his mails >> with correct time/timezone setting. ;-) jbv wrote: >No, actually it's really great the way it is, coz Mode often lives in a >different time zone (and sometimes in a parallel universe...). ......!!! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:38:03 +0100 From: Olf Ranthiz Subject: (kw) Again: corrected cd infos to: 1997 cd's for sale I've got the following CD for sale: ZKM 2CD (Karlsruhe 18th october 1997) $40 Lichtgestalten 2CD (Linz 16th october 1997) $40 Lebendige Menschen 1CD (Tribal gathering, bbc) $20 + shipping if interested e-mail me privately please. tracklistenings: Kraftwerk: ZKM 2CD (Karlsruhe 18th october 1997) CD1: intro nummern computerwelt it's more fun to compute/heimcomputer die menschmaschine tour de france autobahn aetherwellen zkm song(new song) radioaktivitaet lichthof(new song) CD2: tee/abzug/metall auf metall taschenrechner die roboter numweltverschnutzung(new song == luton song) musique non stop +bonus tokyo 9/7/91 computerliebe neonlicht showroom dummies Kraftwerk: Lichtgestalten 2CD (Linz 16th october 1997) CD1: intro nummern computerwelt it's more fun to compute/heimcomputer die menschmaschine tour de france autobahn aetherwellen instrumental(new song) radioaktivitaet lichthof(new song) CD2: tee/abzug/metall auf metall taschenrechner die roboter numweltverschnutzung(new song == luton song) musique non stop +bonus Technopop(demo version) Tour de Francd(arrive mix) Sex Object(razormaidmix) Kraftwerk: (Tribal Gathering'97) Numbers Computerworld Radioactivity TEE/Abzug/Metall auf Metall Pocketcalculator/Dentaku The Robots (Ludwigsburg(1991) Das Model Tour de France Musique non stop - -- take care tf ************************************************************* "Drinking and smoking are bad for the health" -Charles Bukowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:57:25 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE*** On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:22:56 -0800 **************** writes: >What has happened to Ace Of Base?? >Their first album was a massive international success, their second >album less so. I don't know...but I did really like their first album (The Sign) While I'm thinking about it, anyone know anything about the group Rednex? I've got an album of theirs, and am eagerly looking for a new one. For those of you who've not heard of them, they're a "Techno - Country" (a strange combination, I admit) group from Sweden. I think they're great. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:23:57 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Sir George Martin to retire jbv WROTE: >No, actually it's really great the way it is, coz Mode often lives in a different time zone (and sometimes in a parallel universe...).< Instead of wasting time with witless comments like the above, it would = be appreciated if you would answer the survey questions. As one of the = stars (all be it a brown dwarf) of this list we'd all be interested to = be told: 1) How old are you? 2) Where are you from? 3) HOW MUCH DOES YOUR PENSION PAY? mode.123 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:30:18 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) KW and the Beatles jbv wrote:=20 >The Beatles used to play in Hamburg, not D=FCsseldorf. And that was in the early 60s, when R&F were still quite young. So, for these 2 good reasons, it's very unlikely that R&F could have been exposed to the music of the Beatles...< You misunderstood the point. The Beatles influence reached far beyond = the production of pop music. They made a massive contribution to the = social revolution of the 1960's. Without this changed environment = Kraftwerk could never have existed. Imagine how Kraftwerk would have = fitted into the black & white, formal and regimented world of the = 1950's.=20 PS: MODE BOUGHT HIMSELF A BRAND NEW ALPHAROMEO SPIDER FOR HIS BIRTHDAY. = If you London based werkers see a red Alpha Spider please wave!! mode.123 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:57:02 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE*** On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:47:46 -0500 (EST) LeeLo writes: >The rednex suck.....they are from sweden?....how can you like >kraftwerk and then rednex?????????????????????? Hey, I like all kinds of music. No telling what I'll be playing. I can listen to G.G. Allin, then change to Lawrence Welk, I like it all. I do not care for: Top 40 country (so-called "Young Country") Opera Hip-Hop (although I do like some older Rap like 2 Live Crew, N.W.A., The Beastie Boys, Run-Dmc) Anything involving Barry Manilow Disco But I do like music from classical to hard core punk...Sarah Brightman to The Sex Pistols. Hank Williams to Aerosmith. Shaina Noll to Wendy O. Williams. Bubblegum to Heavy Metal. Simple, light arangements to heavy textures. Tommy Dorsey to Duane Eddy. In short, I don't believe in arbitrairily cutting out any artist or any kind of music. Even in the ones I stated above that I don't like, I'm willing to listen to something I might. So, don't have such a closed mind. If I didn't open mine, I would have never discovered Kraftwerk. np: Deep Purple - Chasing Shadows _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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