From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #67 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, February 25 1998 Volume 02 : Number 067 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:56:08 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) EFOFEX! >>> I'm always in trouble to determine the styles, but "Proof' is could be minimal/experimental/techno with lot of soft- industrial elements. <<< Ever consider sending your stuff to Peter Kuhlmann's Fax label???? Sounds like it's their kind of stuff! Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:36:10 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) KW & Philip Glass jbv : > >1) The above gives you a rough idea of the intense musical activity in > >that period 65-72, not only in terms of musical production, but mostly > >in terms of new musical concepts. lbo wrote: > > so your generation has done better than mine? :-))) > > just a curiosity: for me the golden age was 78-84, that is when I was 15-21 > years old. was it the same for you? He he... Still trying to figure out how old I am ? Seriously : I wasn't refering to any "golden age". Believe me, that period 65-72 also produced a fair amount of crap ! The point I wanted to make is that several new musical concepts have been explored / invented in that period, and that a large part of today's musicians are still living on them... Furthermore (please correct me if I'm wrong) I can hardly think of such new things being explored in the period 73-90 (for instance). And of course, I'm talking about musical concepts and composition techniques, not technological improvements ! To answer your question about the golden age, it's true that I like the 77-81 period a lot, not only because I was 20-24 at that time and spending most of my time chasing obscure singles from UK, Australia or California, but mostly because I witnessed the boom of independent productions : suddenly, emusic (and music production in general) wasn't a thing for happy fews anymore... Another period I like a lot is the late 40s - early 50s, at the birth of musique concrete, when suddenly any sound was viewed as usuable in music... That IMHO was a huge step forward. And I wasn't even born !!! jbv : > >3) It's a real pity that KW still stick to the same robot stuff, and > >never explored the mix of euro-synth beat and non-european traditional > >musics... It could have been a thrilling way to "close the loop"... lbo : > yes, this could be a good "theme" for the next album... Not only a theme, but a whole new musical area to explore... But I doubt that KW ever do that, coz if you take a closer look at their previous records and at their audience, KW is really a white thing for white people... Or I should better say : an industrial thing for industrious people (this way, I won't get angry replies from Tokyo or Singapore ;-) ) jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 05:49:46 -0500 From: "J.T." Subject: (kw) HR-16 Soundbank, if you want it! Hi. There's been some talk about the HR-16 drum machine recently. So, since this drum machine is pretty much rare to locate, I thought I'd share the HR-16 soundbank I've created with anyone who would like a copy. Its in SF2 format (for the AWE-64 soundcard) Its available here: http://thor.prohosting.com/~jtalbert/alesis_hr16_drums.zip For anyone curious as to what the HR-16 sounds like, there's a 1 minute demo of the bonus track "Safetyville" from the efofex "PROOF" CD. The demos are both in Realaudio and MP3. Although the MP3 takes a while to download, I recommend trying it out since the fine detail of the HR-16 is lost in the 28.8 version. http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/audio.htm#safetyville BTW: I plan to update the Kraftwerk Active-K page within the next couple of days, so be sure to d/l anything that you want now. http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/activek.html Regards, - -John 'efofex' Talbert ______________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:31:30 +0100 From: "Fer" Subject: RE: (kw) EFOFEX! >I've just now listened "Proof" CD from EFOFEX, and I must >say that the whole stuff is brilliant! >Very professional, very clever job. Yay!! I have just received my copy this morning. Have listened to it only once but I like it a lot. This is very good!!! np: 'Why Did Logan Run?' !! Fer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:46:49 +0000 From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Komputer album When will I be able to go into Virgin/HMV/Our Price in Oxford St,London,England and buy the new Komputer album? Plus - is it any good? Dave Holton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 10:50:26 +0100 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se Subject: (kw) the infobahr Hi!=20 =20 Just noticed that the KW Infobahr doesn't work anymore ! =20 =20 http://www.cs.umu.se/studenter/KRAFTWERK/ =20 =20 it's a pitty if Anders can't have it anymore.....=20 =20 Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 09:57:57 -0500 From: Mark Stagg Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos in SOS cont Here's some of the more interesting bits from the Karl Bartos feature in = Sound On Sound (March 98): Karl has now married and moved to Hamburg, though the new album was finis= hed = in Skyline Studios in Dusseldorf. The album is entitled simply "Electric Music" (note the change in spellin= g) = and is out "next month". (I think that refers to SPV Records in Germany, = but = it's not 100% clear). It's mainly "guitar-based pop" (!) though the opening track "Young Urban = Professional" was written by Karl during the "Electric Cafe" period. It's basically a solo-abum; Lothar Manteuffel is no longer involved. There's a lot of interesting stuff about his approach to = recording/sampling/sequencing guitars - too much to go into now but I'll = try = and find time to post something more. On Kraftwerk: Karl says he did "all the programming" for "the Mix" but remains uncredit= ed. The original idea to make a "best of" record came from Bob Kratzner of El= ekta = in the US. But Ralf didn't want to go with such a project without "gettin= g his hands dirty" (i.e re-recording everything). Karl considers Ralf's biggest mistake to have invested in the Synclavier = system in the early 80s. It *is* Karl singing on "The Telephone Call"! "The best thing I did - after studying music and meeting my wife - was jo= in = Kraftwerk: and then it was *leaving* Kraftwerk!" On "Technopop": "First of all, after we did the worldwide tour in '81, Ralf had a bicycle= = accident, and he almost died. He fractured his skull and was away for nea= rly a year. He hadn't been wearing a helmet; he does now! That was the time whe= n we = did "Tour De France", which was supposed to be the first single off = "Technopop". The single came out, but then this accident happened and it = took = us a year to continue. "Then we got a bit lost in the technology, to be honest. Suddeny, in the = mid-80s, all this digital equipment appeared, including sampling; and the= re = was this fantastic record called "Beatbox" produced by Trevor Horn (later= = issued as "Close To The Edit" by The Art Of Noise). His drum sound blew o= ur = minds! So we had to take a step back and think it all over, incorporate M= IDI = and sampling, and a lot of other stuff." "When the "Technopop" record was eventually finished, Ralf flew to New Yo= rk = and mixed it at The Powerstation. The sleeve and everything was done, but= Ralf felt insecure about it, and thought we should do the whole production aga= in in New York, and call it "Electric Cafe", so we did. I think it was a mistak= e, = but that's just my point of view. I mean, it's OK like it is now; especia= lly = "Music Non-Stop", which is a great song, but I think we should have relea= sed = the "Technopop" version, because it's much better. Somehow, it's now avai= lable as a bootleg record..." (There's plenty more interesting stuff - I'll try and post some more when= I = have time). STAGGMAN = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 08:44:08 +0100 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se Subject: Re: (kw) MP3 tools (off topic) Jon Alsbury ,internet writes:=20 >can anyone recommend a good MP3 player for Windows=20 >NT 4 / 95? I'm interested in a MP3 encoder too.=20 =20 I can recommend WinPlay3, which is for free=20 and plays the whole files (some shareware =20 are limited to 30 sek!!!)=20 =20 Check this page for more info on mp3:=20 =20 >http://members.aol.com/et3bahn/mp3/mp3.html =20 =20 Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:35:18 +0100 From: Uffe Silverup Subject: (kw) Totally off topic!! Sorry for this, but is there anyone who could find a copy of Forever Now - The Psychedelic Furs on CD?? NOT the US version!!! But a UK or German copy? Please mail me direct /Uffe - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- silverup@algonet.se http://www.algonet.se/~silverup/kraft - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:30:49 +0100 From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk mp3 Anthology for sale Lot's of people would like to hear all those rare tracks with Kraftwerk. Not all want to buy loads and loads of CD with these tracks - So I decided to make to CD-ROMs filled with Kraftwerk tracks. I call them Kraftwerk Anthology vol 1 and vol 2, they contain mp3 files. A mp3 file is a compressed sound format, the quality is very good. A mp3 file CD-ROM can not be played in an ordinary Audio CD-player, but it can be played on a computer with a sound-card and it can be transferred to CD or tape. The two anthologies contains: The Full Concerts From Tribal Gathering, ZKM and Linz 1997 Two concerts from "The Mix" tour in Tokyo and Duesseldorf 1991 An old koncert from Kolen in 1971. It contains the following Remix Bootlegs: The remix Man Machine Recreated Schoene neue welt Ultra rare trax Tour de Trance Toccata Electronica It Contains all of the cover versions from: Trance Slovenia Express Trancewerk express 1 Trancewerk Express 2 Rammstein Balanescu Quartet Krafty Move All in a days werk It even contains the 3 first Kraftwerk albums: Kraftwerk 1 Kraftwerk 2 Tonefloat If you own these two mp3 compilations you'll be able to follow all the discussions on kraftwerk - The live sessions, The remixes, The cover cersions etc etc. each CD-ROM contains more than 12 hours of kraftwerk, and comes with a cover - and it's only 25$ a piece or 50$ for the set. Postage all over the world included. For a full track list, and instructions how to order, please mail me: nelleman@biobase.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:41:36 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) RECORDINGS FOR FORTHCOMING ALBUM STOLEN FROM KLING-KLANG. Well, not in a LITERAL sense.... though undeniably a metaphorical one. e.g. Aqua. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:16:19 -0500 From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: Re: (kw) RECORDINGS FOR FORTHCOMING ALBUM STOLEN FROM KLING-KLANG. At 12:41 PM 2/23/98 GMT, you wrote: > > >Well, not in a LITERAL sense.... >though undeniably a metaphorical one. >e.g. Aqua. > Uhh, huh? I probably have to know who aqua are to understand that :) Did anyone else see the MTV premeir of Ultrasound on sunday at 10:00pm e time? The topic was old school rap and stuff so I copied it knowing that they would mention Kraftwerk (In my opinion, a very large influence in 80's hip-hop: Just go buy "Street Jams: vol 1"; or look at the lawsuit against Soul sonic force for basically stealing TEE). So I'm watching it and, of course, they mention kraftwerk and show very SMALL snipet of a Trans Europe Express video.... does anyone have this video or know where i could get some kraftwerk videos??? thnx a bunch (ps, what were the exact allegations against afrika bambaataa and the soul sonic force??) Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:27:01 +0000 From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) KW & Philip Glass jbv wrote: > Furthermore (please correct me if I'm wrong) I can hardly think of > such new things being explored in the period 73-90 (for instance). > And of course, I'm talking about musical concepts and composition > techniques, not technological improvements ! There actually are several important concepts and techniques in this period, just as important as the major ones in the 50s and 60s. There are plenty of aesthetic developments in these decades, as a refinement of earlier techniques and concepts; Nono's work in the 80s is brilliant and, I think, shows that composers went on a more "artistic" view of music, after pursuing several years of experimentation and rationalization. Newer concepts and techniques include, to name just a few in no specific order: - - Exposing the spectral properties of sound, as begun by Scelsi and developed by e.g. Harvey, Murail, Grisey; - - The consolidation of live-electronics pieces and with ensuing spatial concern in sound and synthesis with acoustic ensembles, not to be mistaken by the early attempts at sound projection; - - The "New Complexity" trend (as opposed to the simplicity of minimal repetitive music), as portrayed by Ferneyhough and Dillon; - - The emergence of multimedia works, in conjunction with new concepts of musical theatre--Kagel, Ashley; There is much more to say about any of these composers and their own aesthetic grounds, almost each one of them being entitled to a specific path in the evolution of concepts and techniques. - -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:09:51 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) the infobahr > Just noticed that the KW Infobahr doesn't work anymore ! > http://www.cs.umu.se/studenter/KRAFTWERK/ check out http://www.analogue.org/infobahr hey Anders, where have the RealAudio files gone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:31:08 +0100 From: Oliver Kess Subject: (kw) BOSS DR 660 Hy,has anyone any experiences, good or bad, with this drum machine? regards Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:02:20 -0500 From: J Talbert Subject: Re: AW: (kw) ELECKTROIDS & CROWN Records >>> Oliver Kess wrote: > hy, > forget it, > elektroids is just a boaring album of some boaring musicians who pretend to > sound like kraftwerk. its mostly some sort of house or so. the best thing > to say about this album is the sleeve. looks a bit like cw by kraftwerk. > neongreen and neonyello. but the music is not worth to be mentioned any > more. <<< I totally agree here. It only took about one week before I sold it to my local record store. >>> > if this is sort of a "parallel project", than this shows clearly how > boaring kraftwerk became. << Subject: (kw) Totally off topic!! Sorry for this, but is there anyone who could find a copy of Forever Now - The Psychedelic Furs on CD?? NOT the US version!!! But a UK or German copy? Please mail me direct /Uffe - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- silverup@algonet.se http://www.algonet.se/~silverup/kraft - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:31:08 +0100 From: Oliver Kess Subject: (kw) BOSS DR 660 Hy,has anyone any experiences, good or bad, with this drum machine? regards Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:46:49 +0000 From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Komputer album When will I be able to go into Virgin/HMV/Our Price in Oxford St,London,England and buy the new Komputer album? Plus - is it any good? Dave Holton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:54:14 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) TEE Promo Video > Trans Europe Express video.... does anyone have this video Those who can receive German VH-1 have a chance to watch this video (German language version) next Saturday, February 28th, between 12:00-12:30 and 21:00-21:30 (CET). It is one of the five videos presented by the Sparks in the "Hoch 5" show. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:36:17 + 100 From: ea94rema@ihh.hj.se (MARKUS REINEVIK) Subject: (kw) Lars Nelleman Sorry to bother you all, but I've lost an adress! If you're not called Lars Nelleman, you could delete this message NOW! ***************************************************************** Lars! Could you please send me some more info on the Anthology. And would it be possible to pay in Swedish Kronor? Regards, Marcus PS. Your e-mail adress doesn't seem to work/be correct. I constantly get error messages popping up, when trying to mail you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:12:18 +0000 From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Ok! Maybe I'll just readress the kw group... "Charlie Crash" <909@iname.com> wrote:- >Sorry for any caused anger over my sorry-ass comment. > >I bow before thee. Don't back down, there was some truth in what you said. (In particular, next times there's a survey, maybe participants could email the organiser direct, rather than informing all of us that they're 19, 24, 48, 108, 2 or whatever...?) Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:53:10 -0500 From: Marc Houle Subject: (kw) KW Posters Ok, I know this has been mentioned here before, (this is how I found out) but I feel that I need to re-post it out of happiness...... I just received 3 KW posters from www.concertposters.com and they are fantastic! Great color and paper. They were only 4 bucks american and they arrived to Canada from Germany in about 2 weeks completely undamaged. Wow. Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:57:16 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) KW Posters - -(Marc Houle sez:)- > I just received 3 KW posters from www.concertposters.com and they are fantastic! Great color and paper. They were only 4 bucks american and they arrived to Canada from Germany in about 2 weeks completely undamaged. < Yeah! Highly recommended! I ordered the first 2 posters last year -(before they added AUTOBAHN to the line-up)-. Total cost was $11.88 including postage and they arrived in 2 weeks from Germany to California in perfect shape. Good quality prints! Very nice! http://www.concertposter.com/ Search KRAFTWERK and get 'em while they're hot! I was told they have PLENTY of KW Posters, so, GRAB 'em! Okay- has anybody heard any more confimation/denial of a World/US Tour? Maybe I'll ride my clunky old bike to the gigs in S.F. & L.A.... "VA!*Hh*! VA!*Hh*!".... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:50:17 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Old-school hip-hop, KW style >>> Did anyone else see the MTV premiere of Ultrasound on sunday at 10:00pm e time? The topic was old school rap and stuff so I copied it knowing that they would mention Kraftwerk (In my opinion, a very large influence in 80's hip-hop: Just go buy "Street Jams: vol 1"; or look at the lawsuit against Soul sonic force for basically stealing TEE). So I'm watching it and, of course, they mention kraftwerk and show very SMALL snippet of a Trans Europe Express video.... does anyone have this video or know where i could get some kraftwerk videos??? <<< Saw that too...great show! Also really cool to see all that classic electro-gear! That stuff was ill! Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:45:25 -0600 From: angela Subject: (kw) Old-school hip-hop, KW style So I'm watching it and, of course, they mention kraftwerk and show very SMALL snippet of a Trans Europe Express video.... does anyone have this video or know where i could get some kraftwerk videos??? Greetings, you might have a chance to catch it on Muchmusic(out of Canada), since that is where I first saw TEE, and started my KW obsession, err appreciation :-) The only other KW video I've seen on the tv screen was "The Model" on M2(mtv part deux, but actually a hell of a lot better). The other KW videos I've seen were courtesy of the Kraftwerk Media Center(god{or deity/non-deity of choice}bless petenet) That's my best recommendation. Talking about KW snippets,(sorry if mentioned beforehand) but on a special on the 1980's on MTV(the title was It Came from the 80's), the show a brief clip of Karl and Wolfgang drumming, during a segment on synth and electronic music. The special isn't worth that much, but a KW clip always brings a smile to my face(and a japan clip, but that's a different story) ;-) Good luck to your quest. Yours truly, Heather D. PS. German vh-1 sounds a lot better than the american one (if I see one more Janet Jackson clip, I'll......{no offense to any fans on the list, just not my personal cup of tea). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:41:07 -0500 From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: (kw) Just thinking... I was just thinking that this would be a good debate topic.... What if Kraftwerk were just starting now?? Do you guys think that they would have been able to create some of the great music as they have today?? When they started out, there was really no such thing as techno or house or electronic movement.....but today there is an abundance of this (perhaps because of Kraftwerk for the most part..but let's try to forget this for the sake of argument :). Do you guys think they would be the same power station that they are today? hope I don't start any wars :) Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:05:57 -0600 From: Amigaforever Subject: RE: (kw) Just thinking... [Amigaforever] My answer yo this is a simple, no. So much for debate. I was just thinking that this would be a good debate topic.... What if Kraftwerk were just starting now?? ...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:54:28 -0500 From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: (kw) Doh~ KW posters.. Maybe I'm blind... but I think www.concertposters.com is sold out of Kraftwerk posters! I couldn't find kraftwerk in their links to concert posters. could someone help me out? thnx Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:48:58 -0500 From: tangram Subject: (kw) (no subject) does anyone have a message with the original quoting of the tour from deopfer site? if yes, could you please copy it and email it to me privately? i'd really appreciate it. thnx tangram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:38:49 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Doh~ KW posters.. - -----Original Message----- andrew48@gti.net >Maybe I'm blind... but I think www.concertposters.com is sold out of Kraftwerk posters! I couldn't find kraftwerk in their links to concert posters. could someone help me out? thnx < I just checked- they're there, but, they've raised the prices. 'Still not a bad deal! -(I signed their Email thingy when I first checked 'em out and they notified me when they got the AUTOBAHN Posters in Stock. Nice folks!)- Anyway, just click on "ENTER HERE" on the screen, and do a search for KRAFTWERK in the left-screen. -(Frames!*AGH*!)- If anyone has trouble, please contact me and I can easily order FOR you, no problem. Details: http://www.concertposter.com/ If that doesn't WERK, try this one.... http://www.concertposter.com/frames.htm Computerwelt: US $4.99 DM 9,90 - -(Sillouette "Dummies" black/red on top half, KRAFTWERK in white M.M font in center, Computerworld faces on bottom half, white on black. All 3 posters are 24" x 36"/60 x 90 cm)- The MIX: US $4.99 DM 9,90 - -(Blue background, Ralf ROBOT comin' atcha, E.Cafe faces above/around his head.)- AUTOBAHN: US $5.49 DM 10,90 - -(Plain white on blue /-\ symbol. Emil's original Album ArtWERK would be nicer, but....)- Postage & Handling: $2.90 for 1st poster, $1 per additional. -(I'm not certain of shipping charges within Germany.)- Check 'em out! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 22:15:30 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Re: (kw) Doh~ KW posters.. Aha! Someone had stuck an extra "s" on the end of what should have been "concertposter", which takes you to ANOTHER concert poster site but one which has no Kraftwerk. I've placed my order. Thanks, ROBOT! > I just checked- they're there, but, they've raised the prices. 'Still > not a bad deal! -(I signed their Email thingy when I first checked 'em > out and they notified me when they got the AUTOBAHN Posters in Stock. > Nice folks!)- Anyway, just click on "ENTER HERE" on the screen, and do > a search for KRAFTWERK in the left-screen. -(Frames!*AGH*!)- If anyone > has trouble, please contact me and I can easily order FOR you, no > problem. Details: > > http://www.concertposter.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 13:22:33 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Aqua non-stop Have seen an interviewed of Aqua on french TV yesterday evening. Thay said that they spent 3 1/2 years in studio and that their album has sold 50 millions copies worldwide so far. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's released in 1998, the next KW album should sell 171 428 571 copies... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: LeeLo Subject: (kw) t-shirts Hi list...I am back fro just got the kraftwerk album, The Mix and it is just okay. i am really dissapointed because I liked the songs before they mixed them....especially computer love. It reminds me of a computer romance i had just this year. anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any idea of where to get kraftwerk t-shirts. I am tired of having to write their name on notebooks and schoolbags....i want the real thing!!!!! If anyone knows where to get any kind of non-cd merchandise, please e-mail me.! - ----thanks leelo {-_-} # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:43:06 -0600 From: Amigaforever Subject: (kw) ZKM CD Has anyone here (besides myself) recognized themselves on the ZKM CD? I can hear myself talking in the background. I know it is me, because at one point at the beginning of Man Machine, you can hear someone say "Autobahn kommt gleich" in a Mannheimer dialekt. I remember saying that to my friend and he also remembers me saying it. Jerry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:12:59 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) On the road again... Hi Programmatic boys and girls, I'm leaving for a few weeks. Going to Siberia. No tropical sun, this time. Sigh... Hopefully, I should be back with a few surprises... Take care. jbv PS : as an epilogue to the discussion about KW & Glass & Reich and Eastern Music influences, take a look at that personal page : www.devry.ca/cis442_07/nsukhbir/ I found it as I was looking for info on Sukhbir. I know, it's just a personal page, but I like to mixed influences and background : of islamic / Hindu origins, fan of bhangra and quoting Suicide... A good example to meditate for all werkers... Too bad she didn't put her email adress... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:30:34 -0600 From: Amigaforever Subject: RE: (kw) On the road again... What the heck you doing in Siberia? Hi Programmatic boys and girls, I'm leaving for a few weeks. Going to Siberia. No tropical sun, this time. Sigh... Hopefully, I should be back with a few surprises... Take care. jbv PS : as an epilogue to the discussion about KW & Glass & Reich and Eastern Music influences, take a look at that personal page : www.devry.ca/cis442_07/nsukhbir/ I found it as I was looking for info on Sukhbir. I know, it's just a personal page, but I like to mixed influences and background : of islamic / Hindu origins, fan of bhangra and quoting Suicide... A good example to meditate for all werkers... Too bad she didn't put her email adress... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:59:02 -0500 From: llacost@juno.com (Larry R LaCost Jr.) Subject: (kw) Komputer Kuestion In the song Komputer Pop (Komputer - "The World of Tomorrow"), it seems they mention their names: Simon & David... and where they recorded the tracks: The Lab. Does anyone know their last names? Is there any real background of this group? Where is The Lab? (UK?) Have they ever toured? Thanks Larry... _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #67 ******************************