From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #92 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Sunday, April 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 092 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:49:59 +0100 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour in U.S. >On the evening of the scheduled concert, a friend and I drove all the way to >the Ampitheater, only to find out from the parking attendant that the >concert had been abruptly cancelled. He mentioned that it was probably >because of lack of ticket sales. At the time, I was unable to verify his >statement and still do not know to this day, exactly why it was cancelled. U.S. fans beware! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:59:13 +0100 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) new Kraftwerk album >Basically what I was eluding to was the fact that the press and the technomusic >industry and even many Kraftwerk fans seem to hold them ultimately >"responsible" for where music goes next. I myself don't expect anything of this >magnitude. Its simply not something you can predict - not Kraftwerk nor >anyone else. Hope I don't sound too abrasive here :-) i don't expect anything fantastic either - there are now many people working in the field who are vastly more prolific and creative than Kraftwerk are now - they are the people who are driving the scene forward, not Kraftwerk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:02:40 +0100 From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) The old new Kraftwerk album Ra wrote: > > No need to beg. We already differed. > > > but on what planet was it new and fresh? Granted, the > > On my planet, of course. :) ahhh, that explains it perfectly ;-) > > music is still good, and it is 100% R&F, but new and fresh it most > > certainly is not. To me it signalled finally that they were following, > > not leading....... > > Maybe, maybe not. To me it was a breath of fresh airwaves to hear some of > my favorite KW tunes redone on new equipment with an expanded dynamic > range. Not only did they add some decent bass, they actually did a little > remixing too. The blending together of "Home Computer" and "It's More Fun > to Compute" into one track blew me away. > > It doesn't matter what other people were doing at the time, because > they're not KW. I agree in principle, however it largely depends on whether KW really are just another band or not. Why release a remix album at all? They coulda had 'expanded dynamic range' with NEW songs, not old ones. It smacks of 'mohammed ali' syndrome to me, although I'll still camp outside the record shop the day the next kw album gets a view of daylight.......;-) - -- ciao, - ------------------------------------------ Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 03:32:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: The Mix (Re: (kw) new Kraftwerk album) On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Jon Alsbury wrote: > work alone...), however I stand by my assertion that The Mix > was mainly bought by existing fans only. Uh... aren't all KW albums bought only by their fans? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 03:35:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) The old new Kraftwerk album On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Jules Seifert wrote: > Ra wrote: > > > but on what planet was it new and fresh? Granted, the > > On my planet, of course. :) > ahhh, that explains it perfectly ;-) Natch. > > Maybe, maybe not. To me it was a breath of fresh airwaves to hear some of > > my favorite KW tunes redone on new equipment with an expanded dynamic > > range. Not only did they add some decent bass, they actually did a little > > remixing too. The blending together of "Home Computer" and "It's More Fun > > to Compute" into one track blew me away. > > > > It doesn't matter what other people were doing at the time, because > > they're not KW. > > I agree in principle, however it largely depends on whether KW really > are just another band or not. Why release a remix album at all? They > coulda had 'expanded dynamic range' with NEW songs, not old ones. True, true. But since KW is my favorite group, I don't consider them "just another band". I happen to like remixes though. I consider any remix that differs by a sufficient (and small) amount to be a new song. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:57:53 +0100 From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Attn: Rich Poolton & Jules only Hi Guys, Are there still plans to see John Foxx? I have heard he is in London tonight, but yet to play the Shepherds Bush Empire. Did you find anything out Rich about the SBE gig? Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:24:49 -0400 From: sgt.norman.hopper@wrsmtp-ccmail.army.mil (SGT Norman Hopper) Subject: (kw) Old Boys... I've been reading about everyone's concerns about the possibility of Kraftwerk canceling their leg of the US tour. I hope not, I live in the DC area and have waited 20 years! 240 months! 7300 days! 175,200 hours! 10,512,000 minutes! That's along time no matter how long you wait... anyway, remember these guys (Ralf and Florian) are in their mid fifties! Pretty old, and I have read that Florian *hates* touring with any length. But, then I have two separate videos of Kraftwerk concerts from the 90's (The Mix tour) and he's dancing around like a fool, so I don't know... How tiring can it be flipping a switch that plays looping tracks? Ralf is the only one who actually plays anything anymore, from what I've seen the 2 news members (one percussionist, one programmer/mixer) just barely play. The only song the programmer (Henning? Fritz? Something like that) played was a few notes on Radioactivity. The percussionist smacked some drum pads a few times, but even most of the drum beats are all programmed. Florian... he puts on some headphones, mixes a few scratching sounds on Musique Non Stop, and that's about it. The damn robots do all the work!!! Oh well, enough rants. I'm crossing me olde' fingers that Kraftwerk will come through with the Free Tibet Festival. Norman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:56:05 -0400 From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) The old new Kraftwerk album Ra, Those of us who tend to like remixed material are in the minority... I read the same kind of derogatory commentary on the new order mailing list... a shame that some don't keep an open mind about such.. just my $.02 Jim J. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:20:30 +0100 From: "Phil Walton" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Bootlegs? Hi all, Does anybody know where I can get hold any bootleg CD's of Kraftwerk. I am particularly after the Tribal concert if possible, although I would kill to get hold of the updated version of Numbers/Computer World which they have started with on there last tours. Obviously sound quality is important. Can anyone please help me? Thanks Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:26:15 +0100 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: The Mix (Re: (kw) new Kraftwerk album) >> work alone...), however I stand by my assertion that The Mix >> was mainly bought by existing fans only. > >Uh... aren't all KW albums bought only by their fans? er, no - were you a fan when you bought your first KW album? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:27:55 +0200 From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Bootlegs? > Does anybody know where I can get hold any bootleg CD's of Kraftwerk. I am > particularly after the Tribal concert if possible, although I would kill to > get hold of the updated version of Numbers/Computer World which they have > started with on there last tours. Obviously sound quality is important. Check out this address: http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/kw/kw.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:38:10 -0400 From: sgt.norman.hopper@wrsmtp-ccmail.army.mil (SGT Norman Hopper) Subject: (kw) Free Tibet Festival Anybody have any information of Kraftwerk and the Free Tibet Festival in the Washington, DC area? Thanks, Norman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:03:00 +0200 (DFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Free Tibet Festival > Anybody have any information of Kraftwerk and the Free Tibet Festival > in the Washington, DC area? http://www.tibet98.com Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:06:22 +0200 From: Daniel Nilsson Subject: (kw) Flur Interview There was an interview with Wolfgang Flur in the latest edition of Swedish magazine "Sauna" He talks about Yamo and some Kraftwerk questions too. He explains that he was recently very dissapointed when he read an interview with Ralf in a german magazine that him and Karl were just considered as guest-workers and that they have had som many guest artists over the years that he cant remember them all, and that Ralf and Florian did everything. In addition to that statement he says that he invented the world's first drumpatch table in 1973. There's also a photo of Wolfgang with his pants halfway down showing his butt with a painted "Yamo" logo on it.. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:09:59 +0100 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) The old new Kraftwerk album >Those of us who tend to like remixed material are in the minority... >I read the same kind of derogatory commentary on the >new order mailing list... >a shame that some don't keep an open mind >about such.. Well I can see both sides of the argument here, I for one like to keep an open mind on remix projects as some are very good. A similar topic of debate pursues on the Numan Digest, as Random 2 has just been released which is a compilation of classic Numan songs re-worked by top name Techno artists. I for one love it (I did not like Random1 however). Trouble is, with today's technology anyone can get into a studio, or even build there own at home for a minimal sum, and produce remix material of their own. So you probably have two main categories; 1) Artist authorised remix projects 2) Bootleg remix's I would say in both categories that there will be good and bad. But also, as with any music, alot comes down to personal taste. Some really clever remix projects are far removed from the style of the original, to illustrate, it could be like having someone like Ritchie Blackmore composing accoustic remixes of Kraftwerk tunes. Someone out there may love it, but not everyone will! In short, if you like it, buy it. If not, dosn't mean its crap!! Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:58:57 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Old Boys... SGT Norman Hopper sez: >I've been reading about everyone's concerns about the possibility of Kraftwerk canceling their leg of the US tour. I hope not, I live in the DC area and have waited 20 years! 240 months! 7300 days! 175,200 hours! 10,512,000 minutes!< Me too! >That's along time no matter how long you wait... anyway, remember these guys (Ralf and Florian) are in their mid fifties!< Florian just turned 51. DOB: Apr 7, 1947 Ralfs is also 51. DOB: Aug 20 1946 - -(I keep forgetting if it's the 20th or 22nd.)- >I have read that Florian *hates* touring with any length. But, then I have two separate videos of Kraftwerk concerts from the 90's (The Mix tour) and he's dancing around like a fool, so I don't know...< Someone told me he climbed up the KlingKlang scaffold/framewerk and held up his Calculator so folks in the balcony could push buttons! "He looked like a monkey!"!*HeHee*! "Oo-ah!"! "EE-EEee!" >How tiring can it be flipping a switch that plays looping tracks?< >The damn robots do all the work!!!< *snicker* They can WERK on ME anytime! >Oh well, enough rants. I'm crossing me olde' fingers that Kraftwerk will come through with the Free Tibet Festival.< As a lot of people have said, I wont believe it til I see 'em on stage. Check the KONVOY List! http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/konvoy98/ How come nobody wants to share rooms and stuff? Oh- I gotta respond to THIS.... Daniel Nilsson sez: >There's also a photo of Wolfgang with his pants halfway down showing his butt with a painted "Yamo" logo on it.. :) URL? Scan? PLEEEEEEEEEEEZE?? Oh, it would be interesting to read the Article, too!*HeeHee*! ROBOT Later.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:11:31 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) The old new Kraftwerk album Craig Land wrote: > > it could be like having someone like Ritchie Blackmore composing > accoustic remixes of Kraftwerk tunes. Wow ! Did you hear it ? Is it available ? Where can I find it ? Any more info on that ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:28:33 +0200 From: a1011@hem.passagen.se Subject: (kw) Hotstuff & S.P.O.C.K. >Can someone recommend a first purchase? I've never heard them before, I >only know them by reputation on the list (talking about S.P.O.C.K.). Some (swedish) S.P.O.C.K.-sites: http://www.subspace.se http://www.acc.umu.se/~headache/spock/spock.sou.html As a first buy I'd recommend the 2CD-collection: 'A PIECE OF THE ACTION-The Singles & Some More' because it containstheir older and, according to my opinion, best songs. Check www.skivhugget.se (a HUGE record-store) before you buy any records! Their prices are (was?) often lower than Hotstuff's (and maybe the service is better...). (Tip: when you have done a search for a title/artist there is a button in the middle of the screen (it says [sok/search]); click the button and you'll get the records not in stock (sometimes they might get these records for you in reasonable time).) Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:16:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) The old new Kraftwerk album On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, JL Jones wrote: > Ra, > Those of us who tend to like remixed material are in the minority... > I read the same kind of derogatory commentary on the > new order mailing list... > a shame that some don't keep an open mind > about such.. Yeah, but I'm used to it. I am sooooo in a minority that I don't care anymore. I mean, look: I know that Kraftwerk exists (minority). I like electronic music to the exclusion of all else (minority). I dislike live performances (minority). I love remixes (minority). I hate Autobahn (minority). Sometimes it seems that good taste just can't win. :) But then, good taste is always in a minority of one. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:27:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: The Mix (Re: (kw) new Kraftwerk album) On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Jon Alsbury wrote: > >Uh... aren't all KW albums bought only by their fans? > > er, no - were you a fan when you bought your first KW album? Actually, yes. But what I meant was, however one hears their first KW, if they like it they're going to go buy all the albums. Therefore the majority of the sales go to people who have decided they like KW. I think the one-time buyers may be fewer than A*F (where A is the number of albums and F is the number of fans) in this case, because in my experience very few people even know of the existence of KW. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:44:42 From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Updated ICQ List. Howdy, folks. At the request of several list members, here's a copy of the latest updated master ICQ list of Kraftwerk fans who are both list members and non-list members alike. If you are an ICQ user and would like to have your information included on this list, simply contact me at nebulous@erols.com and supply your nickname, UIN #, and country. Happy chatting! =) - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Nickname UIN# Country - -=-=-=-= -=-= -=-=-=- AVELLAR 10271785 brazil Brad 6629434 australia [Dandy] 4187374 turkey Daniel(25) 2243524 sweden Data 10479579 uk fallen angel 792430 usa Farki 10350144 hungary Finbom 2498812 sweden Jean-Luc Turbo 8795781 usa jono 10708233 uk Jules 7421804 uk Kotta 6963779 sweden Kraftwerk 7663168 sweden Kraftwerk 9654340 brazil Kraftwerk 4470506 usa kraftwerk 9617389 norway Kraftwerk 3592553 canada Kraftwerk 9961880 russia Lbo 10717450 italy Lionheart 9785110 portugal Mauricio 6952164 chile MichaelMelzer 5819669 austria njmsubbie 5448506 usa? PezScotty 10426112 usa shallow 2722160 spain Syntharen 707212 sweden Tezzy 10061691 sweden Thomas 9021040 germany - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - -- PezScotty nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet ICQ#: 10426112 "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:06:24 +0000 From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) John Foxx At 10:57 am +0100 16/4/98, Craig Land wrote: >I have heard he is in London tonight, but yet to play the Shepherds Bush >Empire. Did you find anything out Rich about the SBE gig? This is part of a UK tour it seems. He's playing here in Birmingham tomorrow. Ob. Kraftwerk: have any KW fans here heard Foxx's 'Metamatic' era stuff and not enjoyed it...? ;-) K - -- Kevin Busby, Studio Manager, Department of Music, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B15 2TT, England. Tel: +44-(0)121-414 5785. Fax: +44-(0)121 414 5781. WWW: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/ Email: artless@innocent.com or K.G.Busby@bham.ac.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:27:45 +0200 From: Luca Dassi Subject: Re: (kw) John Foxx Kevin Busby wrote: > Ob. Kraftwerk: have any KW fans here heard Foxx's 'Metamatic' era stuff and > not enjoyed it...? ;-) I enjoyed it of course...so bad after "The Golden Section" he seemed to enter a Churchy/NewAge stage! Did anyone listen to JF's "The Shifting City"? (unavailable in Italy :-[ ). Someone told me it's almost a "Metamatic for the '90s" - all comments welcome. Ciao, Luca Dassi [In the beginning there was Hi-Tech] [In the beginning there was Lo-Tech] [In the beginning there was that Discotheque!] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:29:00 +0200 From: Daniel Nilsson Subject: (kw) wolfgang picture Hi, I was asked for that picture with Wolfgang Flur showing his yamo-painted butt, so, I scanned it. here's the URL if you want to take a look! (the picture in the magazine was quite small, so not so great quality) http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-34145/wolfgang.jpg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:11:48 EDT From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) new Kraftwerk album On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:50:15 -0400 J Talbert writes: >My fear is that its this kind of unrealistic pressure that may have >made them afraid to release new material for such a long time. I think you've got that right. Personally, I follow artists I like (and I am extremely varied). If I listen to any one artist continously, I will dislike them after a while. Variety IS the spice of life, and I like my life spicy. (Did I just say that?) >Remember after all, they are just human. I thought they were not only robots, but THE robots... Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 np: Al Green - I'm Still In Love With You _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:49:45 +0200 From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: (kw) Interview with Karl Bartos > Just watched the program at swedish ZTV with Karl Bartos. Mainly old > stuff, but some new things: > > - A video with the swedish rock-group the Teddybears performing a > cover of the Robots > How should I describe it? - Well - different. They followed the > original pretty close, exect for heavy use of distorted guitars... > > - A video with Jay-something, containing samples which didn't take too > long to figure out where they came from. > > - The videoclip available from www.kraftwerk.com - but this time in > perfect quality. You could easily see their faces and small details. > Must say that Florian looks realy cool with his completely bald head > and that funny smile. > > During the program there was an interview with Alexander Bard from > Army of Lovers. Besides spreading quite a lot of erroneous info he > stated Computer World to be the very reason he's working with music. > > > /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:27:23 -0700 From: susan.woolridge@virgin.net Subject: (kw) kraft boot? hello there, does anyone have any kraftwerk bootlegs they want to trade. i have a copy of their tribal gathering concert (partial i think though 45+mins) that i recorded off the radio as it happened... that failing is any one else interested in the black dog. he's amazing (and easy to engage in conversation as you can send him an email from his official site and has always replied to me) stephen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:13:21 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) AKTIVITÄT #10 KW, ESP, and Lucid Dreaming: *WOW* I just picked up AKTIVITÄT #10 from Mom's house today- Thank you, Ian!! Lovely issue! -(I can't bear to think of it as the "final" issue!*Boo-Hoo*!)- I damn-near had a heart attack when I saw the picture on page 16! -(Very nice! 3 of the ROBOTS at various consoles in the KlingKlang Soundgarten)- Well, last night I dreamed I was in the future, talking to a young woman. I asked if she'd ever heard of a band named KRAFTWERK. She looked kind of surprised, said "yes", and showed me a poster VERY similar to this picture!! The poster in my dream showed only 2 ROBOTS, R&F, more close-up and standing in slightly different positions as in the Fanzine foto, but, definitely at their consoles. I've NEVER seen this foto before. -(Where'd it come from? The only picture I've seen that's even remotely similar was a shot of RalfBOT in the studio reaching for a wallphone or panel of some kind. I'm not counting the M.M. Dummies at the mixing board. That's way different.)- Jeez- my ESP is WERKing overtime! -(Too bad I didn't pay more attention to the dream I had around Apr 1st about being in our storage garage looking for my shortwave radios, and the garage was nearly empty. Sure enough, hubby checked the garage a coupla days later and $1500 worth of electronics and stuff was GONE. Good thing my SYNTHS weren't in there or I'd have to shoot every thievin' speedfreak in Humboldt County!*ARGH*! But, that's another story, and totally off-topic. I'm sorry if I already mentioned it on the List.)- Aside from the obvious far-out freaky-fantasy type KW dreams, I often dream about meeting R&F in a non-chalant setting- like in a restaurant or wherever. Wishful thinking? Probably. Precognition? Hm-m-m.... Maybe. -(I knew what the E.Cafe Album cover looked like beforehand as well as a vague inpression of the sounds. I saw this page 16 picture. I heard the Luton song before they came out with it- etc.)- Cue The Twilight Zone theme with a TEKKNO beat.... this is TOO weird. I'm NOT joking. I honestly don't know how to deal with this "gift/curse". I do see myself and other Fans at a KW Konzert, so, it HAS to come true! Who else out there has Clairvoyant KRAFTWERK Dreams? Am I the only one picking up signals fron KlingKlang? This is NOT mere "obsession" or "delusion". I see/hear things in my head -(KW or otherwise)- and these things often turn out to be TRUE. I just wish my GOOD dreams/visions would come true more often instead of my BAD "warning" dreams. God, it's so FRUSTRATING!! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:08:09 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Any KW ads? Hm-m-m.... Just out of curiousity, has anyone seen any advertisements for the KRAFTWERK Tour in any music magazines, etc? -(Besides Pete Liethen's MTV News Clip. Thanks, Pete!)- If it weren't for the InterNet, I'd be COMPLETELY clueless instead of just SEMI-clueless.... Oh, Pete says there are some ads in music stores in the Madison, WI area about the Chicago Konzert. Has anyone else seen anything? Posters, Flyers etc? SNAG 'em!*HeeHee*! Gee, it's amazing what you learn in the #Kraftwerk channel. Well, 'back to the chatroom! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 22:35:13 PDT From: "Gans allein" Subject: Re: The Mix (Re: (kw) new Kraftwerk album) >>> work alone...), however I stand by my assertion that The Mix >>> was mainly bought by existing fans only. >> >>Uh... aren't all KW albums bought only by their fans? > >er, no - were you a fan when you bought your first KW album? > Umm...yes I was already a fan when I bought my first KW album; I hadn't even heard of them when a friend of mine made me a tape...I became a fan and THEN bought the albums... It has been my experience that most people I talk to today have never heard of Kraftwerk or think they are long gone ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:51:05 PDT From: "Abzug Eins" Subject: Re: (kw) new Kraftwerk album - not robots?? >Damn! and there was me thinking they really were robots... >:-) What? They are not robots???? BLINK ZORG!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:29:19 -0500 From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: (kw) Any KW ads? At 10:08 AM 4/18/98 -0700, ROBOT wrote: >Hm-m-m.... >Just out of curiousity, has anyone seen any advertisements for the >KRAFTWERK Tour in any music magazines, etc? -(Besides Pete Liethen's >MTV News Clip. Thanks, Pete!)- If it weren't for the InterNet, I'd be >COMPLETELY clueless instead of just SEMI-clueless.... > >Oh, Pete says there are some ads in music stores in the Madison, WI >area about the Chicago Konzert. Has anyone else seen anything? >Posters, Flyers etc? SNAG 'em!*HeeHee*! Just saw that the Chicago Shows List (http://ChicagoMusic.com/shows) is finally listing the KW concert on 6/10, albeit as "unconfirmed." I didn't check last week, but they must have given it as October 6 then, since this week's edition listed a correction of the date to 6/10, followed by the note "Darn European date format." Best regards, - -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 11:21:21 +0100 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: AW: (kw) what? Kraftwerk have new material? *FAINT* Tom W wrote: >"vastly better than the majority of other music being made at any time in >recorded history"? talking about subjective...but again, doesnt anyone >here listen to anything else besides KW? i think if you did, ud mute >considerably these types of comments... out of curiousity, what else do you listen to Tom? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #92 ******************************