From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #430 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Sunday, May 21 2000 Volume 02 : Number 430 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:30:57 +0200 From: "Peeters Ivo" Subject: (kw) Record shops in Paris Hello, Are there any French KW fans on the list? I will be spending a few days in Paris beginning of June and I would like to try to find a copy of 'Minicalculateur' or the French 'Computer world'. Therefore, can someone give me some addresses of secondhand record shops in Paris? Thanks Ivo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:44:55 +0100 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw)DID U EVER MEET A KWK MEMBER.... Jesus...................no wonder popstars become reclusive.......;-) > Thank you Florian! > And we was shaking hands. > He was tired and in a hurry. > Then my friends stressed me to leave the theatre. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:47:07 +0100 From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Non iflammable material Jason Polland wrote: > Man, am I the only one on the list who likes his women to dress in girl > scout uniforms and recite the Swedish National Anthem while juggling chunks > of tofu shaped like Richard Nixon's head? As a born-again Zoroastrian I find such acts deeply offensive. However, I have to acknowledge the contributions that people who like women to dress in girl scout uniforms and recite the Swedish National Anthem while juggling chunks of tofu shaped like Richard Nixon's head have made to the arts and the field of interior decorating. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 01:57:28 +1000 From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Re: (kw)DID U EVER MEET A KWK MEMBER.... :-) If you want to hear about my adventures with Karl Bartos, download some mp3 interview files from here: ftp://living-net.com/pub/kraftwerk/ :-) Vladimir .com, .net, .org domain names for only about US$17 coming soon! __________________________________ http://living-net.com Uncompromised Hosting Solutions mailto:vt@living-net.com Phone: (+61) 0500 57 5557 Fax: (+61) 03 5165 3463 __________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:09:38 +0200 From: Didi Subject: (kw) KW short intro Hi everybody, today I bought the "A short introduction to KW "cd and now i'm listening to it. I find it very synthetic, very electric, but I'm disappointed 'cause these are not official song, only remixes. Anyway, it sounds gooooood!!! And tonight I'll go to a concert by To Rococo Rot.... what a day!!! :-) Didi Milan - Pdn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 21:00:08 +0200 From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) 'An Introduction...' revisited Kevin Busby wrote: > > I still don't believe that Ralf & > Florian had anything to do with these tracks, but someone has actually made > a pretty good job of things. I received the CD too. This is not by Kraftwerk. It reminds me more of the stuff on the "Kraftwelt" cd, a Kraftwerk tribute. The music is far too monotonous, the rhythms are too repetitive, it's simply not a Kraftwerk produkt. Pity! I would have liked a recent version of Kristallo. There is an old live version of Kristallo that has the little melody of Showroom Dummies, I think Showroom Dummies was developed from Kristallo. Rick Jansen - -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:21:57 -0500 From: sarahgri@interlog.com Subject: (kw) Deutscherlieber! <(-) >My point of wiev is that KwK music and image has a strong link with the >fetish immagery.(not the early works) > >Hi-tec mean also fashion and fabrics. >Spandex, lycra , vynil , latex and steel ,becomes fashion and clothes >as synthesizer basslines elettro drums and speech modules became a music >with the some sex-appeal. >Panels,displays and knobs are for me sex objects , a masturbatory gadgets to >reach a very mental orgasm. >In the fetish word of girls wearing rubber and vynil there's the same state >of mind. >There's a subtle link , a common energy , the some cerebral pleasure. >Homo/ethero/or bisexuality doesn't mean nothing in this case. >The partner is synthetic. Precisely what I've always thought! Toronto's premiere fetish lifestyle store, 'North Bound Leather', often plays Kraftwerk whenever I go and czech out their "equipment" (usually it's "The Mix"). I myself dream of being Ralf's own cute little love robot! ("I'm your lady machine... I'll be all that you need... the automated girl of your dreams..." - Fantastic Plastic Machine) And since there seems to be this brief discussion on fetishes - how many other people out there, male or female, fetishize all things German? That's one of my biggest trademarks. German accents make me swoon! I vant a Dieter... Kling Klang! - -Sarah :-9 ____________________________________________________________________________ __ _ //\\/__ \ \ There's nothing more uplifting than listening \_ //__\\ /\\/\ to 'Trans Europe Express' whilst riding along // \ /__\\ \ on the subway, jumping from train car to train /___ / \ car... try it! / / # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:48:41 +0200 From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) wanted: ich war ein roboter f you have an spare copy of the Fluer book, I have some kw stuff for trade, and some Jarre too, here: http://personal5.iddeo.es/ret007en/personal/kwtrade.htm Thanks Jose Garcia jgc@retemail.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT) From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) WANTED: Trade Items Hello all, I'm looking for CDR copies of the following live 2-CD shows: "Warfield Pop", and the full 2-CD set of the Tribal Gathering '97 show. I have lots of KW items to trade for these. Thanks a lot! Greetings from Fremont, California, Jason :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:15:53 +0000 From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Seoul Music sarahgri@interlog.com wrote: > why debate that fact? Well, since you ask: because there are social, ethical, political and economic dimensions which extend far beyond any given relationship, beyond questions of sexuality, beyond religious positions and certainly beyond the scope of this list. ;-) But then perhaps I'm an idealist too, in my own way! Ob. Kraftwerk: I'm told that the organisers of Seoul Techno Festival 2000 are trying to invite Kraftwerk. Not surprisingly, they have had trouble even contacting the band. I know that from time to time transdimensional gateways to the Kling Klang Dimension open up, so if anyone does have a contact-who-has-a-contact perhaps they would kindly email namoo@arty.co.kr. Regards to all, Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:28:32 +0200 From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) amazing BULLSHIT !!! ;-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Pedoto" To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: (kw) amazing BULLSHIT !!! ;-) > Now I suggest we stop this. *ROTFLOL* ;-))) U suggest 2 stop this silly thread ?!?!?! *can't_stop_wonderin'* what an incredible nice idea !!! ;-) after all it sounds as if u've learned jus' a little !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Oh yeah...by the way. I could swear I heard that Florian was quite a ladies' man. DAMN RIGHT , MATE !!! ;-) > That doesn't sound very homosexual to me. OH !!! U got that point straight , mate !!! *LOLA* ;-))) > I'm sure SOME of you wish you could change > that piece of information. WHY THAT ??? *justcurious* btw : i suppose that florian didn't look like half as SEXY in his drag queen outfit as freddy mercury or elton john , eh !!! *CSROTFLOLFST* ;-))) > From this moment on, lets drop this and get > back to talking about Kraftwerk's music FINE !!! ;-) this is the best thing that i've heard from u so far , gary !!! *SLOL* ;-))) > Gary > > Read the following attack: OH MY GOSH , GARY !!! u didn't follow your own advise then !!! ;-) i really wonder HOW STUPID & SELF-RIGHTEOUS 1 person could be indeed !!! *sigh* > "homophobe"???>> > > Perhaps substitute it with "bigot" or "asshole." btw : I'M NOT A HOMOSEXUAL NOR A HOMOPHOBE , i'm simply a good lookin' single after all !!! *LOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 00:22:01 PDT From: "Peder Livijn" Subject: (kw) Re: Someone wrote; >"What would you media-controlled idiots" - -Idiots? -Speak for yourself, i don=B4t know in what fashion you were bro= ught=20 up, but where i come from you don=B4t go around calling total strangers=20 "idiots", and since it seems that you are some kind of christian, i think= =20 you should look up in the "good book" what it says about that! "How about freedom of religion? >What if a person's religious beliefs tells them >homosexuality is WRONG and UNNATURAL and a SIN???" - -Then, how about living in the 21st century? /Peder ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:06:49 -0700 From: "mrpoop" Subject: (kw) Re: Them fags suck. Oh, isn't it interesting how the breeder gets toppled by the pro-fags? Whatever you feel, I bet it's not as wonderful as when you stick to your beliefs, crushing the possible friendships you may have developed with "those nutty queers". Yeah, fuck em' and fuck you too. Kraftwerk are gay? Man, what you people do when I ignore the list. Well, if it's in someones fantasy to imagine them as sexual entites playing for either team, I suppose they have missed the whole point. Fuck you too, dreamers. "Oooh, that Florians big, bald cranium... I'm getting so HOT!" Yes, I too feel a great big drop in my opinion of everyone who is stupid enough to argue this crap. What about the new album?! Any word/werkings at ALL!??! Is Ralf really working with Britney on a new single? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:00 AM > > In a message dated 5/13/00 9:58:04 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, > josefgabler@magnet.at writes: > << The homophobic outrage that we has seen on the > mailinglist these last >days > > What would you media-controlled idiots do without > the word "homophobe"??? Just because a person doesn't > have your positive view of homosexuality, you have > to scream "homophobe". Have you ever heard of freedom > of thought and speech? How about freedom of religion? > What if a person's religious beliefs tells them > homosexuality is WRONG and UNNATURAL and a SIN??? > In your eyes, is a person allowed to hold those > opinions? For the time being, here in America, we > still have freedom of speech, no matter how hard > the media tries to control our behaviour by deciding > what is and isn't acceptable beliefs and speech. > I don't know where YOU live, but why not move to Cuba > or some other rat hole where you can't speak your mind. > You'd fit right in...until YOU were the one being > insulted and shouted down for YOUR beliefs. As long as > I'm on a roll here...I'd rather NOT know the sexual > preferences of Kraftwerk because, if I found out one > or all were homosexuals, my opinion of them would drop > dramatically. If you don't like that, you can shove it. > > Gary _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:14:32 GMT From: "Mr. Telex" Subject: (kw) Question Regarding Yamo Lyrics Would any of our dear Italian friends be able to translate the words spoken in the Yamo song, "Fao Testa E Mano" for me ? It's such an erotic track. Gives me goosebumps and thoughts of my girlfriend every time I hear it. I'd really like to know what's being uttered in that breathy female voice. ;-P T.I.A. - --- Josh (a.k.a. "Mr. Telex") http://www.members.tripod.com/mr.telex (Under Construction) ICQ # 42651237 AOL IM - Neurovision 7 "At first, it would seem to you that it is all too good to be true; that you will be ravaged in the end. But as time lingers forward, the eyes of your soul will slowly be opened and the light in your heart will shine forth the beginning of a new dawn. Know now that the words that have been uttered in your presence are indeed that of the truth. " - Circle In The Square ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:23:14 +0100 From: Richard Poolton Subject: RE: (kw) Re: [none] Bruce what makes you think any of us care about all this? I didn't subscribe to the list for this. I suggest you and the others have your petty squabbles in private. Surely that is not too much to ask. Richard ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:45:55 -0400 From: mark gaffney Subject: (kw) recent topics to all, i subscribed to this listserv to get information about a great band, kraftwerk. and while i understand from time to time (as i subscribe to other band's listservs) that topics on the listserv sway from strictly band-related issues, this recent spate of sexual-related arguments is getting very tired and very annoying. there are plenty of forums for this elsewhere. i respect people's positions and i understand the need to discuss questions of life, but this back-and-forth nonsense is ridiculous and rather undignified. let's rest it now. thanx. mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:08:36 GMT From: "Mr. Telex" Subject: (kw) OT : Kick Back Already ! Number one, I think you guys are being WAY too harsh on Gary and Christian ! Number two, I am not controlled by religion ! So all of that blaspemous crap that was uttered about being stuck in the bible and such was a waste of whoever-it-was' breath. ;-P Gary, I would like to chat about this privately if you don't mind sending me a mail. But I won't talk about things here because you all are so quick to flame. On that note, let's start a topic of new discussion : *MY IDEA FOR THE BIGGEST GROSSING TOUR EVER* ;-) KRAFTWERK - DEPECHE MODE - ART OF NOISE If there are any promoters out there, PLEASE START WORKING ON THIS !!! Josh (a.k.a. "Mr. Telex") http://www.members.tripod.com/mr.telex (Under Construction) ICQ # 42651237 AOL IM - Neurovision 7 "At first, it would seem to you that it is all too good to be true; that you will be ravaged in the end. But as time lingers forward, the eyes of your soul will slowly be opened and the light in your heart will shine forth the beginning of a new dawn. Know now that the words that have been uttered in your presence are indeed that of the truth. " - Circle In The Square ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:16:54 -0400 From: LCAPUTO@HKLAW.COM Subject: RE: (kw) Bootleg remix mp3s Incredible!!! I love it! (Don't mind me. I'm not familiar with these remixes. This is great!) =20 Lisa - -----Original Message----- From: Johannes S=F6derlund [mailto:johannes@toga.se] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 5:01 AM To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com Subject: (kw) Bootleg remix mp3s Just thought I'd post some since some of you requested "rare tracks". Have a nice day. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:24:28 +0200 From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: Re: (kw) Impatience - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Busby" To: "kwml" Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:35 PM Subject: (kw) Impatience > the new ROBOT voice ;-) wrote: > > > *hehehe* ;-))) WHY R U SOOO IMPATIENT , EH ??? ;-))) > > sometimes my messages 2 this list just appearin' 2 days ( more than 48 hours > > , ya know !?!?!? ;-))) later than i've originally send them 2 it !!! ;-) SO > > WHAT !?!?!? ;-))) > > Yeah yeah yeah... As I said, I'm sorry about that. But, as certain other > list members found, this was not a usual sort of "delay": some messages were > getting through within a couple of minutes, some were being consistently > blocked (consequently I thought they had been deleted, but to my > embarrassment it turned out they had just been put on hold for 24 hrs!). I > suspect there was some sort of automated check of the messages: there were > some words in the message body which the server just refused to let through! > Most strange. OH !?!?!? *mostcurious* if this is true i really wonder that gary's ( a.k.a. " mr. nice guy (HIMSELF) " !!! ;-) messages went through this listserv !!! *LOL* ;-))) maybe HE controlled this list under " his infamous disguise ", eh ?!?!?! *CSROTFLOLFST* ;-))) however ... most strange indeed !!! > I wouldn't normally be sooo impatient, but I wanted fellow list members to > have information about that now infamous CD before they sent off money or > got too upset with MNS, who did seem to be doing their best to remedy this > fiasco. that's really good , kev !!! thanx a whole lot therefor !!! btw : on my "kraftwerkfans" egroups list ( www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans ) u don't have 2 deal with this kind of problems !!! *hehehe* ;-))) > > btw : i really don't know about the other members of kw but florian is still > > a kind of gigolo after all !!! > > I heard that Florian Schneider is straight, though he used to be an Esleben. > (Bad joke, sorry). > > > ( lookin' 4 some skinny & nice little chixxx !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > > Careful, you'll reopen old wounds for some of your robot chums! :-D > > Kevin *hehehe* ;-))) don't worry , kev !!! ;-) i know her - mrs. ROBOT ! ;-) - personally because SHE'S on my egroups list already & we've talked very openly about all this concern !!! ;-))) after all i think that i still can say we r good friends !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:49:27 PDT From: "Trip Lizard" Subject: Re: (kw) OT? Man, how long is this B.S. thread going to continue? Could you people PLEASE take your homosexuality opinions/comments/hatred/pity, etc., etc., etc., somewhere else! Sure, I have a delete key, but I joined this list for Kraftwerk information and discussion. I couldn't give a rat's ass who's gay or who's not and what other people may or may not thing about it! Jeeeze! >From: "Arnaud de Bonald" > > >On Wed, 17 May 2000 06:10:23 GMT, Matthew Large wrote: > > >>I'd rather NOT know the sexual > >>preferences of Kraftwerk because, if I found out one > >>or all were homosexuals, my opinion of them would drop > >>dramatically. If you don't like that, you can shove it. > > > >Totally agree. > >Homosexuality as a social model is totally unproductive & unnatural. > >But, as a catholic person, I still have pitty for these men.... > >Homosexuals don't choose this way of life even if they pretend to do so, >they are the victim of their education. > >After all, homosexuality is a refuge for people who are too fragile & >unable to accept normal relations between men & women in their life. > >So, don't blame homosexuals. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:05:00 -0400 From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) re: covers That would make a cool KW cover.. or Joy Divisions' dead ringer - Transmission... /home/lunarpark-1/Jim J. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 4:21 AM Subject: (kw) re: covers > > Would love to hear KW's take on > (this may sound oh-so-obvious, but why not?) > NewOrder's Blue Monday... > or even better.. 'isolation' by joy division. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:46:15 -0400 From: ICalder Subject: (kw) re: aktivitat on-line >Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 07:15:03 EDT >From: Modular77@aol.com >Subject: (kw) aktivitat on-line > >OK!!! whats the deal w/ aktivitat on-line??? >it's been Off-line F o r e v e r ! ! ! = It's been offline since the 1st of January 2000, in fact. At the moment, there's no plans to update it. Maybe a zip file for download with the contents as of when it went offline (with a clear indication that its no= t up to date) may be possible. = As to *why* its offline; it was getting outdated and I haven't really had= the impetus nor finger on the pulse enough to update it accurately. = Ian Calder Aktivitaet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:27:56 +0200 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Techno Pop Slogan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Polland" To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 12:12 AM Subject: (kw) Techno Pop Slogan > I was checking out an advertisement for the ill-fated "Techno Pop" > album, at: http://home.t-online.de/home/0625138143/tour.htm > > The text at the top appears to read: "Es wird immer weitergeh'n. Musik > als traeger von ideen." > > I tried Babelfish and got: "It always becomes weitergeh'n. Music as > carriers of ideas." > > So I changed "weitergeh'n" to "weiter gehen", and got: "It will > continue to go forever. Music as carriers of ideas. " > > Is this second version correct? Could some German speakers on the list > help translate this? > > Danke! > > ---Jason Polland *KorreKt* !!! ;-) your "virtual" ROBOT mate OH JAY ;-) a.k.a. micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:11:00 -0400 From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (kw) Non iflammable material The Model - prime example of examining sexuality in a most machinelike/detached fashion... /home/lunarpark-1/Jim J. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Tyson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:43 PM Subject: (kw) Non iflammable material > > This seems to be an issue with the list members. Let me try and at > least make it ON-TOPIC > What I do like about KW is that they rise above all this. I do not want > to know about their sexuality (or rather it doesn't interest me to find > out), not because I want to be ignorant or because it will make me > dislike them in anyway. Rather because KW is about humanity and > machine. KW have always made a public image of emotional detachment. If > you see anything sexual in KW then you are looking into a hall of > mirrors. Enjoy what you find out about yourself. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:47:11 -0400 From: "Gary Pedoto" Subject: (kw) I agree Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:55:09 BST From: r.poolton@talk21.com Subject: (kw) it is a KRAFTWERK list 90% of you lot are so bloody pathetic. Who gives a shit about your pro or anti gay views. I subscribed to this list because of KW, not your own pathetic, small-minded points of view - I just don't care to hear them. If you take issue with each other, why not do it in private, surely that is a fair request. I believe there must be others like me who are so fed up with having their inboxes filled with your crap. My reply: I agree completely. I only post the replies to the personal attacks on me because those doing the attacking are making it public. Private attacks are much more civilized. I guess they don't have it in them to be discreet. Some people need attention. Gary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:10:56 +0200 From: Anders Wilhelm Subject: Re: (kw) Turn the tables Dat is a very kreative idea. On to another topic. Does anyone have recordings of Elektric music concerts in 94? I am *very* interested in getting a copy in that case. Specially if you have the intro they played (schaltwerk) and the first song from the concerts (Ransom?). /aw > Perhaps we could turn the tables on the purveyors of the > 'Introduction to Kraftwerk' and post the entire album online, making > it much more difficult for them to prosper from their apparent scam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 07:16:11 GMT From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) Turn the tables Shane King said: > Perhaps we could turn the tables on the purveyors of the >'Introduction to Kraftwerk' and post the entire album online, making >it much more difficult for them to prosper from their apparent scam. > And I totally agree! someone get them up somewhere! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 07:18:20 GMT From: "Matthew Large" Subject: Re: (kw) Live versus Remix >Could anybody help me find a good mp3 of "Housephone" from >the "Telephone Call" 12"? Yeah, and chuck a link on the list somwhere - I've never heard it before! Ta ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:42:42 PDT From: "Andre Seegers" Subject: (kw) Warfield Soundboard in Concert 2-CD Hey All - Just a quick question - I was at the Warfield show last year and have a chance to buy the double CD (CDR ??) of the show for $35. Apparently the copies are 'soundboard' quality ... Any comments out there from someone that owns/has heard the set ?? I'm not a Kraftwerk completist, by any means - but the show really ROCKED, I'm hoping the recording quality does the show justice. Anyone have a track listing ?? Thanks in advance. Andre ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:32:26 +0200 (MEST) From: komputer@gmx.de Subject: (kw) Yamo / Wolfgang Fluer liebe Freunde, es ist soweit. Am 15.06.2000 ist Yamo / Wolfgang Fluer online: www.yamo.org Kontakt und Anregungen: fluer@yamo.org - -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:16:34 +0100 From: "ivanlangley" Subject: Re: (kw) Deutscherlieber! <(-) >And since there seems to be this brief discussion on fetishes - how many >other people out there, male or female, fetishize all things German? Most of my favourite philosophers are German; most of my favourite authors are German; some of my favourite music is German; my favourite language is German; my mother was German; some of my favourite automobiles are German. To be honest, if Kraftwerk were not German I might be less inclined to subscribe to this list. They retain a distinct German-ness despite the 'globalised' appeal that music, particularly pop, increasingly seems to have. Perhaps that is a lot to do with not liking mass-marketing though. Anyway, I cannot help but feel that, as Sarah suggests, the appeal of KW is, at least in part, due to them being representative of 'things-German'. So I guess you might count me in on that one:-) Ivan p.s. anybody here into the Tetsuo: Iron Man/Bodyhammer films? or Frontline Assembly, Solar Enemy (I think their Massive Radiation track is mindblowing), Controlled Bleeding, Godflesh, or am I getting too industrial now? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:40:14 +0200 From: "Coen Rampen" Subject: (kw) Expo2000 Japan Hi all, Just got a copy of the Japanese Expo2000 CD single. Music and art is the same as the UK version, but some of the text is in Japanese and the catalog number is TOCP-40135. It doesn't contain the video, so all text on the sleeve about this has been removed. It comes with a title strip and a fold-out insert (about 4 times the size of a CD booklet) with a lot of Japanese text I can't read. :-) One for the collectors. Greetz, Coen Rampen c.rampen@student.utwente.nl PS Does anyone know if there is an Australian release distinguishable from the UK release? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:54:46 +0200 From: "the new ROBOT voice ;-\)" Subject: (kw) a summary of my last mails 2 the kwml ! ;-) hi werkers ! my last mails didn't make it 2 the list by now , so i've decided 2 post them all again in a kind of summary ! ;-) i'm sorry 4 this kind of "spam" but now ... i'm a little impatient !!! *hehehe* ;-))) here r my last 3 mails 2 this list so far ... +++ # 1 +++ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Pedoto" To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: (kw) amazing BULLSHIT !!! ;-) > Now I suggest we stop this. *ROTFLOL* ;-))) U suggest 2 stop this silly thread ?!?!?! *can't_stop_wonderin'* what an incredible nice idea !!! ;-) after all it sounds as if u've learned jus' a little !!! *LOL* ;-))) > Oh yeah...by the way. I could swear I heard that Florian was quite a ladies' man. DAMN RIGHT , MATE !!! ;-) > That doesn't sound very homosexual to me. OH !!! U got that point straight , mate !!! *LOLA* ;-))) > I'm sure SOME of you wish you could change > that piece of information. WHY THAT ??? *justcurious* btw : i suppose that florian didn't look like half as SEXY in his drag queen outfit as freddy mercury or elton john , eh !!! *CSROTFLOLFST* ;-))) > From this moment on, lets drop this and get > back to talking about Kraftwerk's music FINE !!! ;-) this is the best thing that i've heard from u so far , gary !!! *SLOL* ;-))) > Gary > > Read the following attack: OH MY GOSH , GARY !!! u didn't follow your own advise then !!! ;-) i really wonder HOW STUPID & SELF-RIGHTEOUS 1 person could be indeed !!! *sigh* > "homophobe"???>> > > Perhaps substitute it with "bigot" or "asshole." btw : I'M NOT A HOMOSEXUAL NOR A HOMOPHOBE , i'm simply a good lookin' single after all !!! *LOLA* ;-))) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) +++ # 2 +++ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Busby" To: "kwml" Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 1:35 PM Subject: (kw) Impatience > the new ROBOT voice ;-) wrote: > > > *hehehe* ;-))) WHY R U SOOO IMPATIENT , EH ??? ;-))) > > sometimes my messages 2 this list just appearin' 2 days ( more than 48 hours > > , ya know !?!?!? ;-))) later than i've originally send them 2 it !!! ;-) SO > > WHAT !?!?!? ;-))) > > Yeah yeah yeah... As I said, I'm sorry about that. But, as certain other > list members found, this was not a usual sort of "delay": some messages were > getting through within a couple of minutes, some were being consistently > blocked (consequently I thought they had been deleted, but to my > embarrassment it turned out they had just been put on hold for 24 hrs!). I > suspect there was some sort of automated check of the messages: there were > some words in the message body which the server just refused to let through! > Most strange. OH !?!?!? *mostcurious* if this is true i really wonder that gary's ( a.k.a. " mr. nice guy (HIMSELF) " !!! ;-) messages went through this listserv !!! *LOL* ;-))) maybe HE controlled this list under " his infamous disguise ", eh ?!?!?! *CSROTFLOLFST* ;-))) however ... most strange indeed !!! > I wouldn't normally be sooo impatient, but I wanted fellow list members to > have information about that now infamous CD before they sent off money or > got too upset with MNS, who did seem to be doing their best to remedy this > fiasco. that's really good , kev !!! thanx a whole lot therefor !!! btw : on my "kraftwerkfans" egroups list ( www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans ) u don't have 2 deal with this kind of problems !!! *hehehe* ;-))) > > btw : i really don't know about the other members of kw but florian is still > > a kind of gigolo after all !!! > > I heard that Florian Schneider is straight, though he used to be an Esleben. > (Bad joke, sorry). > > > ( lookin' 4 some skinny & nice little chixxx !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > > Careful, you'll reopen old wounds for some of your robot chums! :-D > > Kevin *hehehe* ;-))) don't worry , kev !!! ;-) i know her - mrs. ROBOT ! ;-) - personally because SHE'S on my egroups list already & we've talked very openly about all this concern !!! ;-))) after all i think that i still can say we r good friends !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx from micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) +++ # 3 +++ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Polland" To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 12:12 AM Subject: (kw) Techno Pop Slogan > I was checking out an advertisement for the ill-fated "Techno Pop" > album, at: http://home.t-online.de/home/0625138143/tour.htm > > The text at the top appears to read: "Es wird immer weitergeh'n. Musik > als traeger von ideen." > > I tried Babelfish and got: "It always becomes weitergeh'n. Music as > carriers of ideas." > > So I changed "weitergeh'n" to "weiter gehen", and got: "It will > continue to go forever. Music as carriers of ideas. " > > Is this second version correct? Could some German speakers on the list > help translate this? > > Danke! > > ---Jason Polland *KorreKt* !!! ;-) your "virtual" ROBOT mate OH JAY ;-) a.k.a. micROBOT " the new ROBOT voice " ! ;-) +++ end of this summary ! ;-) +++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #430 *******************************