From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #510 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Friday, January 19 2001 Volume 02 : Number 510 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:51:02 -0000 From: "richard marston" Subject: (kw) tdf-graphic "Does anyone know who made the covergraphic for TdF?" The cover design was inspired by a Hungarian postage stamp, printed in dark brown on an orange background, one of a set of ten commorative stamps featuring different sports (the other stamps had different colours). The series was issued in August 1953 and was to celebrate the opening of the then new Peoples' Stadium in Budapest. I posted a b&w scan of it at: http://www.egroups.com/files/kraftwerkfans/Tour+de+France/1313_53.jpg You'll see that even the background colours of Kraftwerk's TdF cover were determined by the design of that stamp. As to who actually modified -- I mean designed -- the actual artwork for KW's cover, who knows? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:01:32 -0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Outburn Hello Kraftwerker's A new Kraftwerk release entitled "Outburn" can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com. I do not know if this is the new album or not. No release date given. Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:12:46 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk "ausgebrannt" ??? *MWG* ;-))) hi kwf's ! Robert Evans wrote : ~ A new Kraftwerk release entitled "Outburn" ~ can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com. HUH_??? *indeed_very_puzzled_look* :-o sorry , but what kind of "silly joke" is this , mate ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) ~ I do not know if this is the new album or not. "the new album" ??? *stared_in_disbelieve* :-o with a name like "ausgebrannt" ( in german language ;-) ??? *XLG* ;-))) > No release date given. well ... possibly in 2003 ... after the next re-released , re-recorded & re-remixed expo 2000 extra special limited edition cd-rom with holographic flight simulator & kling klang studio robots role playin' game & "stuff" like that ... erm ... yes !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) - - formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) btw ( once again ;-) : THERE'S_NO_BOT_LIKE_micRO-BOT_!!! *LOL* ;-))) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( still under "heavy" construction ... jus' like "the new album" by kw !!! *hehehe* ;-))) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:42:12 -0500 From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: (kw) Computer World bonus track(?) Does anyone know about this bonus track on the Computer World LP/CD/Cassette ((http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000071FM/qid=979698581/sr=1-25/re f=sc_m_25/103-1207426-8718200))?!?!?!? =:-0 It's listed @ Amazon.com for $33.99. Is it worth it? BTW.....They also have the remastered Kraftwerk CD's of the originals. Cheers Christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:09:26 -0000 From: Paul Mills Subject: RE: (kw) Outburn Are we sure this isn't just a mispelt/mis-heard "Autobahn" ??? Paul M. - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Evans [SMTP:robertevans1@hotmail.com] Sent: 16 January 2001 19:02 To: kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com Subject: (kw) Outburn Hello Kraftwerker's A new Kraftwerk release entitled "Outburn" can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com. I do not know if this is the new album or not. No release date given. Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:06:12 -0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Outburn again "Outburn" The last thing that I would want to do is spread crazy rumours. Rather than criticize me why not look at Amazon.com and look at the Kraftwerk discography and then tell me I am lying. I merely point out something and I receive abuse. Amazon are inviting you to spend $35 or so on this "invisible" album/single/EP whatever it is, so they are the ones playing the joke and not me. Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:09:20 -0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Oh Jay And by the way, Oh Jay, or whoever you are, you are very rude. Rob. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:43:33 From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: Re: (kw) tdf-graphic I own this stamp and its very nice to see the small changes they have done. For instance they have updated the bikes with more modern gears... But the question remains... who made these changes? /Andreas richard marston wrote: "The cover design was inspired by a Hungarian postage stamp, printed in dark brown on an orange background, one of a set of ten commorative stamps featuring different sports (the other stamps had different colours). The series was issued in August 1953 and was to celebrate the opening of the then new Peoples' Stadium in Budapest." _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:59:19 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) another kw "outburned" by now !!! *MWG* ;-))) hi kwf's ! a lil' "fainthearted" Robert Evans wrote : ~ "Outburn" ~ ~ The last thing that I would want to do is spread crazy rumours. well ... i'm sorry to say this , but that's what u did actually !!! :-/ ~ Rather than criticize me why not look at Amazon.com sorry again , but do u still "believe" all those "stuff" they advertise at amazon.com or elsewhere ??? *jus'_curious* ~ and look at the Kraftwerk discography and then tell me I am lying. geez !!! >:-O nobody said ( or even thought ;-) that u are a liar , mate !!! *phew* :-o calm down & let it slide , rob !!! ;-) ~ I merely point out something and I receive abuse. "abuse" ??? *puzzled_look* :-o from whom ??? *very_curious_by_now* u've said , what u have to say ... & i've said , that i don't believe in such a release ... in a more jokin' manner !!! ;-) that's all there is !!! ;-) if u don't understand such kind of humor , then it's your problem ... finally !!! ;-) ~ Amazon are inviting you to spend $35 or so ~ on this "invisible" album/single/EP whatever it is, ~ so they are the ones playing the joke and not me. ... but u are the one who've spread those "rumor" to us , mate !!! ;-) don't try to deny that !!! *VBG* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) - - formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) btw ( once again ;-) : THERE'S_NO_BOT_LIKE_micRO-BOT_!!! *LOL* ;-))) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( "temporarily" under "heavy" construction ... once again !!! *XLG* ;-))) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:37:28 -0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Christian's Bonus Track The bonus track on the Computer World album in question is "Dentaku", and is longer than the one found on The Mix album. Rob. P.S. Oh Jay has Burned Out. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:50:34 -0000 From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) another kw "outburned" by now !!! *MWG* ;-))) UH-HO, FLAMEWAR ALERT! hi kwf's ! a lil' "fainthearted" Robert Evans wrote : ~ "Outburn" ~ ~ The last thing that I would want to do is spread crazy rumours. well ... i'm sorry to say this , but that's what u did actually !!! :-/ ~ Rather than criticize me why not look at Amazon.com sorry again , but do u still "believe" all those "stuff" they advertise at amazon.com or elsewhere ??? *jus'_curious* ~ and look at the Kraftwerk discography and then tell me I am lying. geez !!! >:-O nobody said ( or even thought ;-) that u are a liar , mate !!! *phew* :-o calm down & let it slide , rob !!! ;-) ~ I merely point out something and I receive abuse. "abuse" ??? *puzzled_look* :-o from whom ??? *very_curious_by_now* u've said , what u have to say ... & i've said , that i don't believe in such a release ... in a more jokin' manner !!! ;-) that's all there is !!! ;-) if u don't understand such kind of humor , then it's your problem ... finally !!! ;-) ~ Amazon are inviting you to spend $35 or so ~ on this "invisible" album/single/EP whatever it is, ~ so they are the ones playing the joke and not me. ... but u are the one who've spread those "rumor" to us , mate !!! ;-) don't try to deny that !!! *VBG* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) - - formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) btw ( once again ;-) : THERE'S_NO_BOT_LIKE_micRO-BOT_!!! *LOL* ;-))) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( "temporarily" under "heavy" construction ... once again !!! *XLG* ;-))) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:53:25 -0000 From: "Paul Martland" Subject: (kw) Outburn >A new Kraftwerk release entitled "Outburn" can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com. I do not know if this is the new album or not. No release date given.< Sorry to disappoint. I think this will be the misspelling of Autobahn from the Japanese catalogue - I should know I ordered the same from Tower Records and that's what I got. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:03:00 -0700 From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) I was a robot (or was I?) Just came back form a quick trip to Singapore, and I must say that Wolfgang's book (English edition) made my 48 hours roundtrip a bit more bearable, although I almost put the book aside when I read about his fears of flying and the tennis player's good fortune of missing that one flight that crashed... Wolfgang (if you're reading this) I loved the way you take the reader to the behind scenes, the anecdotes, the good the bad and the ugly of touring, and what being a Kraftwerk member (ex-member) meant to you all of these years. I congratulate you on such a good job. You seem to be a wonderful human being (I don't believe you were actually ever a robot), and I'm happy that you decided to share "I was a robot" with us. Thanks a lot, man! Forever grateful, Enrique a.k.a. gaucho_pop np: TEE Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:52:19 -0200 From: "eduardo monteiro" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk - trade Hi, werkers. I have many videos with KRAFTWERK in action, recorded at 91, 92 and 98 tours. This concerts are available for trade (VHS video, NTSC color system). In exchange, I want the CD called "El Baile Aleman" by Senor Coconut, the video "MICROMUSIC" by Gary Numan or CDs by Tangerine Dream (Tyger, Thief, and others). If you are interested, please, e-mail me privately. BOING !! BOOM !! TSCHAK !! eduardo monteiro from BRAZIL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:14:00 -0700 (MST) From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Outburn again On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Robert Evans wrote: > "Outburn" > > Amazon are inviting you to spend $35 or so on this "invisible" > album/single/EP whatever it is, so they are the ones playing the joke and > not me. We all realize that. We're not attacking you. Myself, I'm sick of rumors of new albums. I bet this one is just another false alarm like that "Brief Introduction to Kraftwerk" bootleg that was passed off as official last year. I wish Ralf & Florian would make a concrete statement about their future plans so we don't have to get stressed about things like this. - -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:12:35 -0000 From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) gay KW?! Hi, as you know I was in Africa for a month. Imagine my lack of understanding what the hell you guys are on about when there are talks of golden showers, gays and KW in one sentence. Can someone explain this, send pictures etc. as I'm sure this was a topic last year? Matt http://www.mattwerk.com Die hel van die noorde in Potchefstroom "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" Die Blouberge en Koppietjies "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" Ermelo en Middelburg "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" Laaste rit Pretoria "Toer die Transvaal, Toer die Transvaal" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:05:33 -0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Amazon respond Hi again Just to nip this in the bud, Amazon don't really know what it is, but they are selling it anyway. Ah well. Oh Jay let's be friends xxx Rob. >From: >To: robertevans1@hotmail.com >Subject: Your Feedback to Amazon.com >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:25:05 -0800 (PST) > >Dear Robert, > >Hello, and thanks for writing to Amazon.com! > >I did some research on Kraftwerk on our website, and "Outburn" does not >appear as part of their discography. It is possible that this is a >compilation disc of songs that appear on other albums. > >When a CD is listed on our web site as "Import," it simply means that >we obtain this title from a non-U.S. distributor. Often CDs produced >for foreign markets will be slightly different than the version >released in the U.S.; also, some titles are only available as imports. > >Differences between import and domestic versions of a particular title >can vary greatly. These may include different cover art, extra tracks >or missing tracks, or sometimes no changes at all. Prices on import >CDs also tend to be higher, reflecting the extra cost of obtaining the >item from a non-U.S. distributor. > >Our editorial staff is constantly increasing the amount of information >we provide about each item in our music store. Sometimes, however, >information on import CDs can be difficult to obtain and the detail >pages of some import CDs may be sparse. We encourage you to add to >our information by submitting customer reviews for your favorite (or >not-so-favorite) CDs. > >If you'd like to find more information about particular CDs, you might >try posting your question to one of our discussion boards. Click on >"Friends & Favorites" at the top of our home page, then click the >"Discussion Boards" link in the left-hand margin. > >To join a discussion, simply click on the topic that interests you. >If you haven't participated before, we'll ask you to register by >clicking the "sign up" link on the topic page. > >I hope this information helps. Let us know if you have any further >questions, and thanks for shopping at Amazon.com! > > >Best regards, > >Danielle Buckley >http://www.amazon.com >Need an instant gift? Send an Amazon.com gift certificate via e-mail: >http://www.amazon.com/gift-certificates >============================== >Check your order and more! http://www.amazon.com/your-account >Questions? We have your answers! http://www.amazon.com/help > > >Date: Wed Jan 17 07:05:07 PST 2001 > >Subject: Query > >To: feedback@amazon.com > >From: robertevans1@hotmail.com > > >Dear Sir or Madam > > > >I am writing to you because I would like information regarding a musical > >item that you have for sale. The item is a CD by Kraftwerk entitled > >"Outburn". Please if possible could you provide me with further details >of > >this release, i.e. the nature of it (whether it is a "best of", or an >album > >in it's own right, etc). Your help is most appreciated. > > > >Yours faithfully > > > >Robert. > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:57:44 +0000 From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Jolly KW?! Matthew Dean wrote: > Hi, as you know I was in Africa for a month. Welcome back (I hope your knowledge of Dutch helped you learn Afrikaans!). > Can someone > explain this, send pictures etc. as I'm sure this was a topic last > year? Yeah, it's the same old piffle: IIRC, a holiday photo of two Kraftwerkers making do with the same shower while out in the country somewhere - wasn't it? (I must admit I did NOT keep a copy to refer to! :-) ). How interesting such a picture is is in the eye of the beholder, but it just looked like an innocent holiday snap to my clean mind! :-D Kevin PS I just chanced across this at the official Tangerine Dream FAQ http://www.tangerinedream.de/qna03.html#faq058 "58. Are Tangerine Dream members fans of the German band =BBKraftwerk=AB? Kraftwerk is more or less representive [sic] of the opposite way to use electronic instruments. We've never heard a TD member whistling a Kraftwerk tune!" Fair enough! (No boring TD v. Kraftwerk flames please!). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: Petter Subject: (kw) Emil Schult Hi, Does anyone have a copy/transcript of the Emil Schult interview from Aktivität #7? I am also looking for other information about Mr. Schult, as well as pictures of his art. Please help! P- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:05:06 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) thank god !!! no kw "outburned" by now ... & the robotz are still dancin' in the studio ... maybe !!! *MWG* ;-))) hi kwf's ! Robert Evans wrote again : ~ Just to nip this in the bud, ~ Amazon don't really know what it is, ~ but they are selling it anyway. Ah well. yep , that's exactly what they & also other online "dealers" do : they sell all kinds of "stuff" , no matter if it's an "authentic" item or jus' a damned fake or a crappy bootleg or somethin' else !!! *sigh* :-o ~ Oh Jay let's be friends no probs with me , rob !!! *XLG* ;-))) fyi : if u can "live" with my somehow "strange" kind of humor , then it will be fun & friendly with u & me here on this list of freaky kw weirdos !!! *LOL* ;-))) p. s. : somethin' completely diff'rent , off-topiK , but still important for me : is there anybody on this list who can give me an addy where i can download an anti-spammin' program for free ??? *jus'_curious* however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) - - formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) btw ( once again ;-) : THERE'S_NO_BOT_LIKE_micRO-BOT_!!! *LOL* ;-))) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( well ... this site is still "a construction site" !!! :-o ) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:44:06 -0500 From: fecalfunhole Subject: Re: (kw) thank god !!! no kw "outburned" by now ... & the robotz are still dancin' in the studio ... maybe !!! *MWG* ;-))) Quoting Oh Jay : > > hi kwf's ! > > Robert Evans wrote again : > > ~ Just to nip this in the bud, > ~ Amazon don't really know what it is, > ~ but they are selling it anyway. Ah well. > > yep , that's exactly what they & also other online "dealers" do : they sell > all kinds of "stuff" , no matter if it's an "authentic" item or jus' a > damned fake or a crappy bootleg or somethin' else !!! *sigh* :-o > > ~ Oh Jay let's be friends > > no probs with me , rob !!! *XLG* ;-))) > fyi : if u can "live" with my somehow "strange" kind of humor , then it > will > be fun & friendly with u & me here on this list of freaky kw weirdos !!! > *LOL* ;-))) I remember a conversation on a similar note.. Anyhow, in my opinion Kraftwerk probably already have multiple albums worth of music completed. Maybe not final masters, technology improves that process year by year, but enough to continue a career without any effort. Isn't that their end goal, robots playing while they persue other endevours? Prince has a similar archive of secret music, and it struck me as odd.. but when he needs cash or acclaim he releases something from the vault. K have been engaged in studiokraft for years now.. so, as far as waiting for releases, that's the game. Possibly, they only permitted 'expo2000' to be mixed around like a Rick Ruban experiment - to see what popular results could be. Hutter has no patience for record companies and is shrewd about presenting anything.. being burnt by EMI probably made him warey. And those "mixes" are all shit. Every one. If a real man/machine with sense, like Cylob were to get involved, I doubt very much we would be waiting still. How disappointing to release just the commissioned work, not even your intended albums material, and have that blanched and homogenized into "club" mixes. .b - -------------------------------------- FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 02:31:47 GMT From: Miguel Angelo Caridade Praca Subject: (kw) Computer Grafics on Electric Cafe Hi Werkers! I know what the Computer Grafics on Electric Cafe was made in=20 Institute Technology from New York in conformity with the Electric=20 Cafe Album but does anyone knows which computers was used to make=20 then? Thanks!!! ... Miguel Angelo from Brazil ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:09:43 -0000 From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: (kw) RE: re-rubs I have to disagree with you, most of the new mixes I think are pretty good. Especially the François K and Orbital mixes. I don't really understand this purist view a lot of people have when it comes to remixing, after all, remixing other peoples work has been going on for hundreds of years. Classical composers were always pinching other composers choons and doing 'variations on a theme'. I think it's great to hear other peoples interpretations. The remixed versions sounding better than the original in a lot of cases. Shaun And those "mixes" are all shit. Every one. If a real man/machine with sense, like Cylob were to get involved, I doubt very much we would be waiting still. How disappointing to release just the commissioned work, not even your intended albums material, and have that blanched and homogenized into "club" mixes. .b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:15:39 -0000 From: "richard marston" Subject: Re: (kw) tdf-graphic Andréas Hagström wrote: > >I own this stamp and its very nice to see the small changes they have done. >For instance they have updated the bikes with more modern gears... >But the question remains... who made these changes? >/Andreas The graphic style of the cyclists is similar to the inner sleeve of the Trans Europa Express album, so possibly it is Emil Schult. If you look closely at the 1983/84 sleeve you will see the quality of the drawing of the faces is a bit different to the rest of the cyclists' bodies, suggesting the basic four-figure arrangement on the artwork was put together first and then drawings of the faces added (and replaced for the 1999 reissue!). Of course, technical skill is one aspect, but I expect Ralf & Florian were playing the role of Art Directors whoever did the actual physical work. Any chance of making a colour jpeg scan of the stamp and putting it up somewhere on the internet? Richard :-) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:31:57 From: "Andréas Hagström" Subject: Re: (kw) Jolly KW?! Actually its photos from some filmproject and they are shot in Florians garden according to Flürs book. /Andréas Kevin Busby wrote: "Yeah, it's the same old piffle: IIRC, a holiday photo of two Kraftwerkers making do with the same shower while out in the country somewhere - wasn't it? (I must admit I did NOT keep a copy to refer to! :-) ). How interesting such a picture is is in the eye of the beholder, but it just looked like an innocent holiday snap to my clean mind! :-D" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:58:28 +0100 From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: Emil Schult Petter skrev: > I am also looking for other information about Mr. Schult, as well as pictures of his art. Keep an eye on http://www.emilschult.com/ - -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:38:45 -0000 From: "richard marston" Subject: (kw) That photo on the first KW album was by Bernd & Hilla Becher, two conceptual artist/photographers from Germany: "The Bechers have been documenting the aging world of the industrial age for decades. Their beautiful, unadorned and repetitious images are a mirror held up to the paradoxical existence of mankind's seemingly endless capacity for building, improving, compositing, developing, using, wasting and ultimately discarding the planet we live on." Perhaps their visuals had been some influence for the first and second Kraftwerk albums? There's some info about them here: http://laudanum.net/nrrtv/bchr/ And they have several books at amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Becher%2C%20Hilla/107-1791531-8292523 Hmmm, interesting titles: 'Mineheads', 'Industrial Facades', 'Basic Forms', 'Gas Tanks', 'Water Towers'... :-) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #510 *******************************