From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #511 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Monday, January 22 2001 Volume 02 : Number 511 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:58:23 -0500 From: Bruce Lloyd Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #510 on 1/19/01 2:40 PM, in kraftwerk-digest, oh_jay@freenet.de wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:12:46 +0100 > From: "Oh Jay" > Subject: (kw) kraftwerk "ausgebrannt" ??? *MWG* ;-))) > > hi kwf's ! > > Robert Evans wrote : > > ~ A new Kraftwerk release entitled "Outburn" > ~ can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com. > > HUH_??? *indeed_very_puzzled_look* :-o > sorry , but what kind of "silly joke" is this , mate ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) > > ~ I do not know if this is the new album or not. > > "the new album" ??? *stared_in_disbelieve* :-o > with a name like "ausgebrannt" ( in german language ;-) ??? *XLG* ;-))) > >> No release date given. > > well ... possibly in 2003 ... after the next re-released , re-recorded & > re-remixed expo 2000 extra special limited edition cd-rom with holographic > flight simulator & kling klang studio robots role playin' game & "stuff" > like that ... erm ... yes !!! *ROTFLOL* ;-))) > > however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern > germany !!! ;-) > > yours sincerely , > oh jay ;-) > - - formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) > > btw ( once again ;-) : THERE'S_NO_BOT_LIKE_micRO-BOT_!!! *LOL* ;-))) > > *~\^/~* > > my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans > my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( still under "heavy" > construction ... jus' like "the new album" by kw !!! *hehehe* ;-))) > one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de > > [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] Are you this much of an idiot in person? Every time there is a digest sent, it's filled with this nonsensical GARBAGE. You're really quite an annoying individual, either that or you're about 4 years old - because that is about the only demographic your bullsh*t postings appeal to.. I had a dream the other night that I fell asleep. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:15:30 EST From: Ilych@aol.com Subject: (kw) In englisch, bitte? Guten tag, werkers: Is Wolfgang's book available in English? Last I heard, it was not.=20 Will it be? If so, does anyone know when? My German is rather poor; I imagin= e=20 buying the book as it was written =E2=80=94 in Deutsch =E2=80=94 would be a=20= futile=20 investment for me; know what I mean? If this has been discussed before, my apologies; I've been out of the loop=20 for a while. Thanks; Bruno V. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:24:59 -0500 From: Mike Markowski Subject: (kw) cd-r trades, anyone? Hey all, At long last I now have a cd-rw drive in my pc at home. So now I'm itching to start trading. It doesn't have to be Kraftwerk, by the way. If you're on this list and think what you have is good, I probably will, too. But I'd like to trade regular cd audio format discs not mp3. Here's my current list of KW ready for trading: Kraftwerk, Warfield '98 (2 cd's) Yup, that's it. Just one item (and some Beatles boots). No need to mention I'm new at this, I guess! So if you'd like to trade, please drop me a line. Thanks, Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:48:33 -0800 (PST) From: JandSNuckels@webtv.net (Jason & Sherry Nuckels) Subject: (kw) Re: In englisch, bitte? To Bruno, "I Was A Robot", the English-language version of Wolfgang's book, is available at www.amazon.co.uk . Also, www.barnesandnoble.com says that it will be released in America in March 2001. Jason Nuckels "Das Einundzwanzigste Jarhundert" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:21:42 -0600 From: Andrew Dieffenbach Subject: Re: (kw) Re: In englisch, bitte? With a smaller bit of detail, Wolfgang's book (English edition) is to be released by Amazon on my birthday, March 15, 2001... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:35:43 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) "friendly words" for a very "decent" dude !!! *MWG* ;-))) hi kwf's ! a very "decent" dude called bruce lloyd wrote : ~ Are you this much of an idiot in person? what's your problem "dickhead" ??? haven't got an erection lately ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) ~ Every time there is a digest sent, it's filled with this nonsensical ~ GARBAGE. well ... learn to write a proper subject line first , brucie , & after that ... spare us YOUR_GARBAGE too , u waste of oxygene !!! *LOL* ;-))) ~ You're really quite an annoying individual, DITTO_!!! thanx for the compliment ... erm ... complaint , u useless portion of meat !!! *VBG* ;-))) ~ either that or you're about 4 years old - sorry to disappoint u , mate , but i'm 30 years older than that & have a sense of humor which u actually lack of !!! *sigh* :-o ~ because that is about the only demographic ~ your bullsh*t postings appeal to.. thanx again for your very interestin' "comments" , but next time u better SHUT_UP , u cynical excuse of a biped !!! *BWG* ;-))) ~ I had a dream the other night that I fell asleep. sleep well ... & better never wake up again , brucie !!! *ROTFLO_LOUDEST* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay ;-) - - formerly known as micROBOT "the new ROBOT voice" ! ;-) btw ( once again ;-) : THERE'S_NO_BOT_LIKE_micRO-BOT_!!! *LOL* ;-))) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( well ... u know "that story" already , don't u ??? *XLG* ;-))) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:30:51 -0700 (MST) From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Re: In englisch, bitte? On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Jason & Sherry Nuckels wrote: > "I Was A Robot", the English-language version of Wolfgang's book, is > available at www.amazon.co.uk . Also, www.barnesandnoble.com says that > it will be released in America in March 2001. I checked at Chapters (Canadian bookstore chain) last month, and they claim to be able to deliver it in 4-6 weeks. Quite a trick since March is just now about 6 weeks away. - -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:50:03 -0000 From: "Matthew Large" Subject: (kw) OJ Sorry oh_jay, But he's not alone.. Sometimes it does feel like you treat your audience like a kindergarten. Don't you agree? Please comment on every sentence I wrote. > >Are you this much of an idiot in person? > >Every time there is a digest sent, it's filled with this nonsensical >GARBAGE. You're really quite an annoying individual, either that or you're >about 4 years old - because that is about the only demographic your >bullsh*t >postings appeal to.. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:12:12 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) oh jay , the kindergarten "fool" !!! *XLG* ;-))) hi kwf's matthew large wrote : ~ Sorry oh_jay, ~ But he's not alone.. yeah , i know !!! *sigh* :-o ~ Sometimes it does feel like you treat your audience like a kindergarten. sometimes i feel like there are "some" people here , which came right from a kindergarten ... jus' like "lil' brucie" !!! *VBG* ;-))) ~ Don't you agree? somehow yes ... & somehow not !!! ;-) anyway ... i really appreciate it if people like u , matthew , wrote somethin' "KonstruKtive" instead of jus' derogatory & angry , humorless "crap" like , "lil' brucie" !!! ~ Please comment on every sentence I wrote. was that okay , for ya , mate ??? *G+* ;-) however ... my apologies to those of u , who think that i'm "a fool" ... U_ARE_ABSOLUTELY_RIGHT_ABOUT_THAT_!!! *LOL* ;-))) kw contents : i've heard a rumor about "a new album" comin' out soon ... !!! *ducks_&_runs_as_fast_as_he_can* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay - "the fool" ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( soon to be updated again !!! ;-) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:56:05 +0100 From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) That photo on the first KW album richard marston schrieb am 19.01.2001 20:38 Uhr MEZ: > > was by Bernd & Hilla Becher, two conceptual artist/photographers from > Germany: "The Bechers have been documenting the aging world of the > Hmmm, interesting titles: 'Mineheads', 'Industrial Facades', 'Basic Forms', > 'Gas Tanks', 'Water Towers'... :-) Both are really expensive, but "Wassertuerme" (Water Towers) and "Hochoefen" (Blast Furnaces) are the two Becher photo volumes you can buy without hesitation - IMHO. All others you better have a look at before buying. jan ^^^v^^^ http://www.felix-bloch-erben.de/autoren/drehbuch/reetze.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:34:25 -0200 From: "eduardo monteiro" Subject: (kw) kraft trade Hi, werkers. >I have many videos with KRAFTWERK in action, >recorded at 91, 92 and 98 tours. This concerts are >available for trade (VHS video, NTSC color system). > >In exchange, I want the CD called "El Baile Aleman" >by Senor Coconut, the video "MICROMUSIC" >by Gary Numan or CDs by Tangerine Dream (Tyger, Thief, >and others). > >If you are interested, please, e-mail me privately. > >BOING !! BOOM !! TSCHAK !! > > >eduardo monteiro >from BRAZIL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:08:03 +0100 From: Lech Subject: (kw) Re: In englisch, bitte? Soleil Lapierre in his own write: > [Chapters] claim to be able to deliver it in 4-6 weeks. Quite a trick since March is just now about 6 weeks away. It's been out in the UK since November. For sure. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/186074320X/o/qid=980013836/sr=8-1/202-5894932-5042221 - -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:37:18 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) oh jay , the kindergarten "fool" !!! *XLG* ;-))) hi kwf's ! Lars Nellemann wrote : ~ Could you please take your silly flame wars off the list. fyi : i'll do this after i've send "my final comment" to mr. bruce lloyd !!! btw : sorry for this "lil' inconvenience" !!! *G+* ;-) ~ and PLEASE write in normal language. excuse me , lars , but i write like i _WANT_ to write & ABSOLUTELY_NOBODY has to tell me how to write or not !!! GET_THIS ... please !!! ;-) ~ Many of list members are fed up with your childish mails! okay ... for those of u , who don't or won't read my mails anymore , i have a very simply suggestion : ignore or delete them !!! ;-) use your "kill files" & / or block my addy !!! ;-) if u are "unable" to do that , then u simply have to "cope" with me & my style of writin' !!! PERIOD_!!! thanx a lot for your attention !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay - "the fool" ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( jus' wait until early feb. 2001 , fellows !!! ;-) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:39:02 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) My complaint about Mr. Bruce W. Lloyd ( fyi : u can see _THIS_ as my final comment on this silly thread !!! ;-) hi kwf's ! "our lil' brucie" wrote again : ~ I bet your mom thinks your cool, right? I think I understand, now, the ~ reasoning behind your obvious lack of any ability to string a coherent ~ sentence together: your ability to interject facial expressions and 'body ~ language' makes up for the fact that you have less than nothing to say. ~ Plus the fact that you're eurotrash (I bet you look dapper in Levis) carries ~ the concept of your vitriolic personality. fact is : u actually don't know _ANYTHIN'_ about me , "lil' brucie" !!! *G+* ;-) btw : if u have "a problem" with what i write or _HOW_ i write it , than simply ignore or delete it , okay ??? ;-) use your "kill files" properly , mate !!! *LOL* ;-))) but a mindless bugger like u can't "insult" me with the crap he writes here !!! *BWG* ;-))) ~ Within the light of what you're NOT saying, you're really quite pathetic. ~ You're like a dog with a bone - tediously obvious and boringly predictable. ~ Your messages are remarkably similar to tin toy robots from the 50s' - ~ tortuously common and easily put away with the rest of useless items. jus' as i said before : simply ignore or delete my "eurotrash" if u can't stand it !!! *XLG* ;-))) i won't change my style only to "satisfy" "dickheads" like u , mate !!! GET_THIS_!!! ~ Grow up - seriously. If anyone is useless, I offer your inexplicable ~ existence. are u "tryin'" to "offend" me , "lil' brucie" ??? *most_curious_indeed* ;-) U_LAMER_!!! your humble existence isn't even predicted to "grow" or get mature ... ANYHOW_!!! u are jus' a bloody miscarriage of the human kind ... if u are at least human at all !!! :-o read this & then SHUT_THE_FAQ_UP , u "squirrel slaughterer" !!! My complaint about Mr. Bruce W. Lloyd I would like to clarify some comments I made recently regarding Mr. Bruce W. Lloyd. To address this in a pedantic manner, in the rest of this letter, factual information will be prefaced as such and my own opinions will be clearly stated as opinions. For instance, it is a fact that Mr. Lloyd's diatribes are based on a technique I'm sure you've heard of. It's called "lying". We have to start talking with one another honestly, in honest language. To be more pedantic about it, if I seem a bit nasty, it's only because I'm trying to communicate with him on his own level. As I gaze into my crystal ball, I see that Mr. Lloyd's shock troops will win support by encapsulating frustrations and directing them toward unpopular scapegoats one of these days. I'll give you an example of this, based on my own experience. As you know, I'm sticking out my neck a bit in talking about Mr. Lloyd's zingers. It's quite likely he will try to retaliate against me for my telling you that there is a format he should follow for his next literary endeavor. It involves a topic sentence and supporting facts. If Mr. Lloyd had even a shred of intellectual integrity, he'd admit that he frequently avers his support of democracy and his love of freedom. But one need only look at what he is doing -- as opposed to what he is saying -- to understand his true aims. Perhaps it sounds like stating the obvious to say that he has nothing but contempt for you, and you don't even know it. That's why I feel obligated to inform you that when he says that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose, in his mind, that's supposed to end the argument. It's like he believes he has said something very profound. The gloss that Mr. Lloyd's trucklers put on Mr. Lloyd's conclusions unfortunately does little to get the facts out in the hope that somebody else will do something to solve the problem. If history follows its course, it should be evident that Mr. Lloyd insists that people don't mind having their communities turned into war zones. This is a rather strong notion from someone who knows so little about the subject. Honor means nothing to him. Principles mean nothing to him. All he cares about is how best to prey on people's fear of political and economic instability. Let's just ignore Mr. Lloyd and see what he does. Will politically incorrect ex-cons ever push the envelope on our knowledge of the world around us? Don't bet on it. In general, he is not only immoral, but amoral. I unquestionably feel that we should establish clear, justifiable definitions of absolutism and larrikinism, so that you can defend a decision to take action when Mr. Lloyd's secret police damn this nation and this world to Hell, and I have formalized my commitment to this high ideal by ensuring that I always cast a gimlet eye on Mr. Lloyd's perversions. Perhaps I'm reading too much into Mr. Lloyd's notions, but they don't seem to serve any purpose other than to adopt approaches that have not been tested to try to solve problems that have not been well-defined. From a public-policy perspective, Mr. Lloyd's convictions smack of faddism. That's the sort of statement that some people maintain is bookish, but which I believe is merely a statement of fact. And it's a statement that needs to be made, because Mr. Lloyd says he's going to increase society's cycle of hostility and violence before long. Good old Mr. Lloyd. He just loves to open his mouth and let all kinds of things come out without listening to how incompetent they sound. I am on an important mission to counteract the subtle, but pervasive, social message that says that he has a "special" perspective on sesquipedalianism which carries with it a "special" right to lay the foundation for some serious mischief. If I don't accomplish that mission, his plans to biologically or psychologically engineer the worst sorts of ruthless bohemians I've ever seen to make them even more confused than they already are could well succeed. An armed revolt against Mr. Lloyd is morally justified. However, I insist that it is not yet strategically justified. Despite his evident lack of grounding in what he's talking about, he recently stated that it is fatuitous to question his stratagems. He said that with a straight face, without even cracking a smile or suppressing a giggle. He said it as if he meant it. That's scary, because if he makes fun of me or insults me, I hear it, and it hurts. But I take solace in the fact that I am still able to reveal the constant tension between centripetal and centrifugal forces of dialogized heteroglossia resulting from his pranks. To put it another way, the unalterable law of biology has a corollary that is generally overlooked. Specifically, this is not wild speculation. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is documented fact. Before I continue, let me state that I correctly predicted that Mr. Lloyd would regulate insurrectionism. Alas, I didn't think he'd do that so effectively -- or so soon. I can't let him depressurize the frail vessel of human hopes, and besides, I want my life to count. I want to be part of something significant and lasting. I want to contribute to the intellectual and spiritual health of the body politic. Wild deviants are sharply focused on an immediate goal: to reduce human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Given what I know about out-of-touch mumpish-types, I can say with confidence that Mr. Lloyd maliciously defames and damagingly misrepresents everyone and everything around him. There's a word for that: libel. He places his indelible imprimatur upon a form of extremism that is fundamentally, pervasively, and inescapably iconoclastic, and that's one reason why I'm writing this letter. And if you think that the laws of nature don't apply to him, then you aren't thinking very clearly. If Mr. Lloyd can one day sell otherwise perfectly reasonable people the idee fixe that censorship could benefit us, then the long descent into night is sure to follow. He consistently falls short of telling the whole story or of making a solid point. Of course, it's not quite that simple. While it is not my purpose to incriminate or exculpate or vindicate or castigate, I would never take a job working for him. Given his directionless silly mottos, who would want to? My current plan is to turn Mr. Lloyd's blathering sentiments to our advantage. Yes, he will draw upon the most powerful fires of Hell to tear that plan asunder, but the main dissensus between me and Mr. Lloyd is that I claim that Mr. Lloyd's viewpoints are a mockery of all that is fair and equitable. He, on the other hand, contends that cultural tradition has never contributed a single thing to the advancement of knowledge or understanding. If the past is any indication of the future, he will once again attempt to pose a threat to the survival of democracy. Though I don't doubt the depth of Mr. Lloyd's sentiments, it's rather the form of his expressions that I find both fastidious and egocentric. I should add parenthetically that Mr. Lloyd thinks it would be a great idea to deface property with racially and sexually derogatory epithets and offensive symbols. Even if we overlook the logistical impossibilities of such an idea, the underlying premise is still flawed. Now that I've been exposed to his scribblings, I must admit that I don't completely understand them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps the poisonous wine of neopaganism had been distilled long before he entered the scene. Mr. Lloyd is merely the agent decanting the poisonous fluid from its bottle into the jug that is world humanity. To sum it all up, Mr. Bruce W. Lloyd's machinations are certainly uncalled for. Yours sincerely, Oh Jay - "The Fool" ;-) I'm out! PEACE!!! *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:43:57 +0100 From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: In englisch, bitte? btw, it's also available at www.bookzone.co.uk, they sent it to me the day after I placed my order. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:30:20 -0500 From: fecalfunhole Subject: Re: (kw) "decent" dude !!! *MWG* ;-))) blah blah blah, ad nausum What can I say, but EMAIL KUMATE!! All we need is a cage match between our brother from northern Bremen, O-Jay and the "decent" demon Bruce Lloyd in a fight to the death! This is the perfect way to meet K since they enjoy sporting events, especially between their own fans. Promise a terrifying, yet tantilizing but'o'humanity fighting for the "honor" of WHO ACTS THEIR AGE!! Wow, I'm about to piss myself in anticipation. STOP SPAM-I-O-AKTIVITY. .b > > hi kwf's ! > > a very "decent" dude called bruce lloyd wrote : > > ~ Are you this much of an idiot in person? > > what's your problem "dickhead" ??? haven't got an erection lately ??? > *jus'_curious* ;-) et-fucking-cetera... and I thought "I" had the crown of most offensive. - -------------------------------------- FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 01:32:07 -0500 From: -ericg- Subject: Re: (kw) Re: In englisch, bitte? > With a smaller bit of detail, Wolfgang's book (English edition) is to be > released by Amazon on my birthday, March 15, 2001... Amazon just sent me an e-mail saying that my copy shipped. So much for release dates. - -ericg- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:14:30 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) Fw: WARNIN'_!!! our "beloved lil' brucie" & surely "my biggest fan" really dislikes germans !!! ;-) hi kwf's ! our "beloved lil' brucie" & surely "my biggest fan" wrote a very "unmaskin'" comment in a private mail to me : ~ Who would have guessed - ~ a representative of the 20th century's fascistic epicenter. ~ A country who's only contribution to the human experience ~ was strudel. oh well ... this means that if also kw itself came from _THAT_ "20th century's fascistic epicenter" & as germans as they are , u simply _MUST_ totally dislike them too ... because - as a matter of fact !!! - ... they are jus' germans !!! :-o am i right about that "suspicion" , "dear brucie" ??? ;-) if so , WHY_THE_HECK_ARE_U_HERE , eh ??? *most_curious_indeed* fyi : from now on i'll block your ( "lil' brucie's" ;-) addy too , simply because i'm sick & tired of such hypocritical , sycophantic , degenerated , mindless & self-righteous bastards like u , "dickhead" !!! *grim* :-/ to the "moderator" & / or owner of this list : would u please boot this damned "dickhead" from the list IMMEDIATELY_??? however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay - "the fool" ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( next update in early feb. 2001 !!! ;-) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:44:09 +0100 From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) one more ranking result Did we mentioned this allready? German Musicmagazine " Musikexpress" voted Kraftwerk as group with the most important german pop album (No. 1 of 50). Musikexpress_February_2001_page_44 Forget to see it netwise. www.musikexpress.de is quite a poor "performance" (sorry folks) The 21st Century (hehe...) Regards - ---joseph _______wirds noch jemals weitergehen oder bloss nur noch in Listen stehen? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:00:04 -0200 From: Eduardo Marcel Macan Subject: (kw) Important, please read (RFC 1855: Netiquette) Once there was a time when almost everyone in the internet was a=20 technical person or scientist sharing and developing knowledge. Then private networks become connected and a whole new audience was formed. This huge mass of people was interested on making business, meeting people , talking and gaming over the internet (oh, yes, there is also warez and mp3z, nude babes and such :) ) and has not had the chance to be=20 introduced to the technical writings that documented the internet. Those are called RFCs, one of those RFCs the RFC numbered 1855 documents what they called "netiquette" and is fairly complete, everyone should have the right to read it, see how wonderful it is to play nice with each other by following those recomendations, but most people are denied this right. Indeed, many people intuitively follow these rules , but many do not. And that is not their fault. I therefore grant this right to all you list members who did not have the chance to read it before. Go and read it: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html I am sure it will be useful to everyone, even those people who already follow this document, without ever knowing of its existence.=20 For those who do not follow it, please read the part about "one to many" communication. From this document, I'd like to point out: ----begin excerpt--- - Remember that the recipient is a human being whose culture, language, and humor have different points of reference from your own. Remember that date formats, measurements, and idioms may not travel well. Be especially careful with sarcasm. - Wait overnight to send emotional responses to messages. If you have really strong feelings about a subject, indicate it via FLAME ON/OFF enclosures. For example: FLAME ON: This type of argument is not worth the bandwidth it takes to send it. It's illogical and poorly reasoned. The rest of the world agrees with me. FLAME OFF - If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer than 4 lines. Remember that many people pay for connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is, the more they pay. ----end excerpt--- These three rules are mandatory. I read part of the document to cut/paste these rules from it and in the meantime I've found many other useful tips I had forgotten. It is a wonderful reading to everyone. Regards and sorry for the long message Eduardo. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:00:26 +0000 From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Back to basics Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html Yes, and Grice's maxims are worth bearing in mind, too...! ;-) (http://www.ruthvilmi.net/hut/cybercorner/grice.html) ... as are the following extracts from http://www.studio-nibble.com/lists/kraftwerk.info, IMHO: > * Avoid long signatures (four lines is a good size). [...] > * If someone else is misbehaving on the list, please EMAIL THE LIST > OWNER (owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com). Do NOT try to deal > with the situation yourself; this almost always results in more > problems than it solves. > > The following kinds of messages are *never* welcome on the list -- posting > them may result in your being banned from posting or removed from the list. > > * Flames and/or attacks on other list members [...] > * Private email that you don't have the original sender's permission to > repost to the list Hope this helps. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:28:07 +0100 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Important, please read (RFC 1855: Netiquette) hi kwf's ! Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote : ~ Regards and sorry for the long message thanx a lot for this very interestin' "insight" , eduardo !!! btw : u really don't have to feel sorry for your long message , because it's worth EV'RY_WORD u wrote !!! :-) my best regards to u & the rest of the fellows out there , who have indeed somethin' to say ( unlike mr. bruce lloyd !!! :-/ ) & my deepest _RESPECT_ for eduardo's really "KonstruKtive" comments !!! *very_sincere_smile* :-))) _PEACE_ for those , who really deserve it !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx to you all from bremen @ the weser in northern germany !!! ;-) yours sincerely , oh jay - "the fool" ;-) *~\^/~* my kwf newsgroup & forum : www.egroups.com/group/kraftwerkfans my very own website : www.cybernetx-media.de ( watch out !!! only a few days left until the next update is finished !!! *G+* ;-) one of my many e-mail addy's : cybernetx@gmx.de [ +++ end of transmission !!! +++ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:00:41 -0500 (EST) From: Louis Pistilli Subject: [none] Certain people here need to calm down about this "golden shower" picture. I've seen it and it's old news. Only a perverted person could look at this picture and see a "golden shower", "homoerotic" or any other perversion. It's an innocent picture of two friends posing together for a picture by an outdoor shower. This must be just another attempt by the homosexuals to drag people into the sewer with them. lp - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? 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