From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #572 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Sunday, August 5 2001 Volume 02 : Number 572 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:55:38 -0700 From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot Knowing Klaus was on the other side, ready to shoot, in some naive kind = of way I've asked to the list: > [yadda yadda yadda] Is this enough proof?=20 Klaus Zaepke replied (I've smelled his "touch=E9" comeback a mile away) >> No. Klaus, you're always so politically correct. Never breaking a sweat. = Anyway, the sad truth is that we only know one side of the story. So I'm still asking: is the credits thing really a myth? You're right, I only gave = one example of credits (actually two in fact # 3) being removed from a CD, = and you just happened to forget the most important one: Wolfgang's own experience with the credits in a record shop. I didn't care much for = that Maximilian Schoenherr guy, his comments were only the icing on the = cake. Nonetheless, the other claims are so fricking outrageous that makes you wonder what the heck are R&F really all about.=20 Who the hell is telling the truth here? Is Wolfgang a liar? He might = be! (I still don't think so) Who knows... speaking of which... Klaus, = according to "I was a Robot" you had the pleasure of meet with Wolfgang, right? = What's your honest opinion of him? Come on, you can tell us, grab a cold one = and share with the list that Kodak moment, would you please? We won't tell anybody... is it truth what he says about you and 'that document'?... = oh I know! that's another quick one dear Wolfie tried to pull on us, right?=20 Cheers! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:11:28 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Johnn=20Andersson?= Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot-suggestion Just an idea: Why not start a "I think xkraftwerkmembers had a big impact on Kraftwerks music - mailinglist" - seems to be enough mails to fill that mailbox pretty fast. It would also save us who thinks R & F are the true geniuses behind the Kraftwerk sound and those who don't care abuot it a lot of bandwidth. In the end all this is speculations from both sides anyway. #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 /Johnn [E.O.F.] _____________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Ditt_namn@yahoo.se - skaffa en gratis mailadress pċ http://mail.yahoo.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:58:59 +0000 From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) KW/Beatles crap As much as I love KW and rate them highly, I'm getting well into the Beatles. Got the 'Russian release' of White Album, god Revolution 9 is fucked up! I can make up 'dead man' without playing it backwards, but then how could you do that with a CD anyway. KW's new album, I reckon there won't be no new shit till they die. I mean, you know how it goes... maybe they're doing a 2pac on us by making loads of songs, then dying, then having 10 albums a year for the next millennium. What's the chances? Anyway have fun, will emigrate to AfRRRRIIIIIka on 16th, marry 25th, so cool month! Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:20:28 +0200 (MEST) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot > So I'm still asking: is the credits thing really a myth? You're right, I only gave > one example of credits (actually two in fact # 3) being removed from a CD, The "Autobahn" example is insignificant, since *all* credits are missing, not just the credits for ex-members. > and you just happened to forget the most important one: Wolfgang's own > experience with the credits in a record shop. Which is backed up by what evidence? If there really was a 1999 re-release with removed ex-member credits, more people should have spotted copies. > Who the hell is telling the truth here? Is Wolfgang a liar? Just because his book includes a couple of mistakes, he doesn't have to be a liar. > anybody... is it truth what he says about you and 'that document'?... > oh I know! that's another quick one dear Wolfie tried to pull on us, right? Basically yes. It is true that I told him about this patent, but what he writes about the "conspirational" context etc. is not really correct. For example, I've never refused to tell him my source (why should I refuse to tell him about this Delphion patent database??), he simply didn't ask! Klaus Zaepke - -- Aufgepasst - jetzt viele 1&1 New WebHosting Pakete ohne Einrichtungsgebuehr + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung! http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00736T0492a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:41:03 +0200 From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot-suggestion Johnn Andersson wrote: > > Just an idea: > Why not start a "I think xkraftwerkmembers had a big > impact on Kraftwerks music - mailinglist" - seems to > be enough mails to fill that mailbox pretty fast. > > It would also save us who thinks R & F are the true > geniuses behind the Kraftwerk sound and those who > don't care abuot it a lot of bandwidth. > > In the end all this is speculations from both sides > anyway. Agreed! Basically, I think all this is none of our business really. Don't go and look in the kitchen of your favourite restaurant. You may not like what you see and hear, and you may not even like the place as before. Rick Jansen - -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:42:15 +0200 From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot (fact #1) Enrique Correa wrote: > Fact # 1. Karl Bartos programmed "The Mix" and gets no credit for. The > following is an extract of an interview he gave to Sound on Sound back = in > March '98: >=20 > http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/mar98/articles/electric.html Thanks for this article! I do read SOS now and then, but I must have miss= ed this! End of May this year we had a discussion on Technopop, the album, a= nd why it wasn't released in the end. My assessment that they were fed up wi= th it and then spent all their time on getting to know the new technology wa= s quite right, unfortunately. "When the Technopop record was eventually finished, Ralf flew to New York= =20 and mixed it at The Powerstation. The sleeve and everything was done, but Ralf felt insecure about it, and thought we should do the=20 whole production again in New York and call it Electric Caf=E9, so we did. I think it was a mistake, but that's just my point of view. I mean,=20 it's OK like it is now; especially 'Musique Non-Stop', which is a great song; but I think we should have released the Technopop version, because=20 it's much better. Somehow, it's now available as a bootleg record..." "Maybe technology got in the way, so to speak. It gives you a big advanta= ge,=20 but learning all about it takes away a lot of energy. I remember a time i= n=20 Kraftwerk where I just sat around for two-and-a-half years reading manual= s,=20 programming a Yamaha DX7 with two Atari computers and two different types= of=20 librarians; changing envelopes or whatever, and not making one new compos= ition!" Such a pity... Trapped in technology overload after all. Rick Jansen - --=20 Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:37:51 +0200 From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) html Could you people stop sending html mail? Thanx! Jose Garcia elektrik@navegalia.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Lyrical Struggle Anyone know where there is a site with Elektric Music, and Yamo lyrics? I've tried several English and German search engines, but no luck. I'd really like to see the lyrics for "Show Business", "TV", "Crosstalk", and "Stereomatic". If anyone can depict accurate lyrics to any of those songs, it would be greatly appreciated. == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 22:43:49 +0100 From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) Neighbours Kraftwerk got a mention on that Aussie soap Neighbours today. They were mentioned as "..nerd music, Kraftwerk" Sorry the quote is not complete. My wife (who is not that keen on the foursome) only had one ear to the program. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 23:48:12 +0100 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Re: Neighbours It's funny how Kraftwerk is sometimes referred to as "nerd music". They are undoubtedly one of the coolest bands to have existed, rather than one of the nerdiest. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:06:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) Re: Neighbours From: Robert Evans > It's funny how Kraftwerk is sometimes referred to as "nerd music". They > are undoubtedly one of the coolest bands to have existed, rather than > one of the nerdiest. Um, nerds ARE cool. :) - -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 01:07:38 +0100 From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Neighbours Robert Evans wrote: > > It's funny how Kraftwerk is sometimes referred to as "nerd music". They are > undoubtedly one of the coolest bands to have existed, rather than one of the > nerdiest. Perhaps they meant "music that nerds listen to". Er... I think we are on shaky ground here. Let's move on. :-D ... I don't suppose this is part of a plot build-up for a cameo appearance by Florian, carrying a surf board... K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:09:41 From: "Oystein Moe" Subject: (kw) winMX, Kraftwerk and DAF >My favourite source for new releases by artists I thought I knew well - in fact, Robert Görl and Wolfgang Flür used to share a flat together ca. 1980, or so I read in an old Görl interview. >WinMX/Napster - have done it again! >Today I learned that Kraftwerk have made the song "Der Mussolini". That >was weird, I thought. Here I've been >walking the Earth for the past 20 years or so in the belief that this >song was made by D.A.F. Funny, but at least they have two things in common: they both worked with Conny Plank and they both bought large parts of their equipment at Matten & Wiechers aka Synthesizerstudio Bonn. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:22:49 +0200 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Neighbours the BIG_"K" wrote : > ... I don't suppose this is part of a plot build-up for > a cameo appearance by Florian, carrying a surf board... hmmm ... "rolf 'n' florian goin' hawaiian" ... once again !!! *LOL* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:04:12 +0100 From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) Neighbours Interesting point. Not wanting to sound like I'm generalising but women tend to not like electronica. My girlfriend can't get her head around Kraftwerk (tho she did pick up the TEE album one time and commented, 'what a good looking wholesome bunch of blokes'.) Females on the whole tend to like safe, chart friendly 'fluffy' music. Is it in their genes or is it social conditioning do you think? Shaun My wife (who is not that keen on the foursome) only had one ear to the program. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 14:36:17 +0200 From: Gunnar Wess Subject: (kw) Halbleiter I've found an article about a sculpture called "Halbleiter von Chemnitz" by Stephan von Huene in the issue 02/1999 of the German "Art"-magazine. In this article is a photo of this sculpture. I uploaded a scan to the file-section of "kraftwerkfans" (halbleiter.jpg). Take a look at it and tell me what does it remember you at? Below are some links to sites (in German only, sorry) related to the same topic. Does anybody know, if there is a connection to KW? http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/spektrum/99-3/tu5.html http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/spektrum/98-3/tu9.html http://idw-online.de/public/pmid-11885/zeige_pm.html Gunnar _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:44:36 +0100 From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: (kw) uh-oh Through fear of not wanting to cause offence, I thought I carefully phrased my comment by saying women 'on the whole' - that's not every woman. I don't doubt that there are women who like and produce electronic music but it seems to be a mostly male thing. I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental than that. Shaun I resent that. I'm an American female and love kw and also as much electronic music as i can get my hands on. I don't care for any of that MTV trash or trendy music. - --"I think I think too much"-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:23:06 +0200 From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh Shaun Vaughan wrote : > I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album > in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental > than that. *ROTFLOL* ;-))) celine dion - "experimental" ??? *still_LOL* ;-))) well ... i know at least THREE women from europe , who have some really weird "stuff" ( not only kw & mr. richard d. james !!! ;-) in their collection & i also suppose that it's more of an "american phenomenon" , than a european or asian for example !!! *sly_grin* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 16:42:08 +0100 From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh Shaun Vaughan wrote: > Through fear of not wanting to cause offence, Heh, I was offended by that wanky term "electronica" - but I forgive you! :-) > I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album in their > collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing > more experimental than that. http://www.squeakie.com/tampaxtwin/ Audio seems to be down, but IIRC you can find tracks at mp3.com. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:55:06 +0200 From: "Der Automat" Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot > removed ex-member credits [snip] > Wolfgang devised and built the drumpad. Pardon me for jumping in this discussion, but hadn't all of these subjects been treated in the lawsuit Kraftwerk interposed against Wolfgang Fluer last year? Apologies if I am wrong here. By the way, is the legal ruling online or just the trial didn't take place yet? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 17:13:21 +0100 From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Outburn strikes again Rick Jansen wrote: > Do you think they (the Japanese) have a machine for transcribing > songs? It would be most interesting to hook up that machine with > a speech synthesizer to a Karaoke system and to see what would happen. [...] > S&H's a module and s&h's looking good Hmm, maybe! ;-) I have updated the FAQ to inform the world of the truth about 'Outburn'... Apologies to Mr Wavecomputer and everyone else who has sent material for the FAQ - I will incorporate it all just as soon as I can! K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:13:50 +0200 From: markus.berzborn@t-online.de (Markus Berzborn) Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh > Through fear of not wanting to cause offence, I thought I carefully phrased > my comment by saying > women 'on the whole' - that's not every woman. > I don't doubt that there are women who like and produce electronic music but > it seems to be a mostly male > thing. I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album in their > collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing > more experimental than that. I know women who listen not only to Kraftwerk but also to The Residents, Einstürzende Neubauten and Stockhausen, eg. my wife (although not every day). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:37:45 +0100 From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) uh-oh *ROTFLOL* ;-))) celine dion - "experimental" ??? *still_LOL* ;-))) Oh Jay Yes, it was meant to be sarcastic. Sarcasm doesn't travel well via the written word. Perhaps I should have added one of your *sly_grin's* ;-) to enhance it? Shaun well ... i know at least THREE women from europe , who have some really weird "stuff" ( not only kw & mr. richard d. james !!! ;-) in their collection & i also suppose that it's more of an "american phenomenon" , than a european or asian for example !!! *sly_grin* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:49:29 +0200 From: Familie de Haan Subject: (kw) Little Computer People... ..anyone heard there album Electro Pop? It's on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.dance now... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:42:54 +0200 From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) i was a robot > From: Enrique Correa > Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot (fact #2) Thanks Enrique for your answer, but my question was specifically about names having been removed from credits. I will repeat the question. Klaus answer was: false myth. If anyone can proof this, tell us where can we find a scan of such credits in which Karl or Wolgang have been removed. It's strange all this talking about the names of ex-kwerkers having been removed from CD releases, etc. Does anyone have such a CD? I have never seen one of those. While in TdF, the credits end listing R+F, credit remains for the authors of the song. As for the Autobahn CD, German pressing, no names of any member appear anywhere, except credits for the authors of each track. The German Mensch-Maschine keeps the original album credits, at least in the version I have. Is this a false myth or does anyone have proof of this? > Fact # 4. The Autobahn LP cover features different faces, depending on the > editions, and on the Tour De France CD single cover, the faces had been > re-touched from the original vinyl edition. Autobahn: perhaps true, but Wolfgang and Karl are still there. This re- release is quite old I think, even pre-Mix? On TdF, the authors are still credited. As for the rest of facts, I never questioned them. I just questioned the myth of their credit removed from M.Machine and Autobahn. Jose Garcia elektrik@navegalia.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:23:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Online Purchasing Anyone know of a good online CD website, where I could purchase the German versions of KW albums? I try US sites like CDNow.com, but they are tremendosly high priced. Maybe a UK or German site similar to CDnow.com? If anyone could give me a URL to a site like that... == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 03:19:16 -0600 From: Arnaud de Bonald Subject: Re: (kw) Global network - true? On 2001-08-01 robert_evans1@hotmail.com said: >it happens it doesn't seem real... no, I don't beliebe it also. >All I can say is, some time ago (late June) I made an order for >Kraftwerk's "brand new album" from 101cd.com...and it was not a >"pre-order" title at all, just an import from Japan. They told me >it was "temporarily out of stock" (I should say so!), but after an >ordering process lasting 28 week-days, it should arrive on my >doormat by the end of this week...I would love it to happen, but I >somehow doubt it... yes, it's preferable, considering 101cd.com list many "Brand New albums " and "Brand new singles" for many artists, including Pet Shop Boys, etc. All should come from Japan of course, like Outburn :-) Well, if you receive the "Brand new album" please let us know immedialtly!!! Maybe R & F don' have it themself :-) Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #572 *******************************