From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #612 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, December 4 2001 Volume 02 : Number 612 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:01:23 +0000 From: "main event" Subject: (kw) Re: KW e-mail address Hi everyone... Let their privacy be respected and just sit back and enjoy the great music they have produced.. ' Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current may perhaps reach the source' http://www.mp3.com/mainevent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:39:40 +0000 From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk - boring... Personally I'm getting rather bored with Kraftwerk! I appreciate their music and what they achieved and I still look out for whatever rare releases I can find, but I'm getting bored with it all! I've been on the mailing list since 1998 and all there is is us fans moaning whether there's any new material coming out. TDF rerelease was welcome, but they could also have released a maxi with the better mixes, like the original 12" or 2e Etappe for example. Expo was a nice surprise, but only 2 songs - 4 mixes in total, that's pathetic when it's been 10 years since anything 'new'! Then the 6 Expo remixes, not even by KW itself, well that CD's gathering dust in my CD cabinet. If I see an old single on the market I'll buy it, but the latest E2K or TDF 12" I refuse to buy as there is simply no point - nothing special! Also, the way Kraftwerk hold their loyal fans in disregard is just terrible. Most good groups at least write/release new material, at the most withing a couple of years, or they split up and there is that feeling of closure. Kraftwerk don't give us that closure feeling, they just keep us hanging on, waiting for new material that is obviously never going to come. They never communicate with their fans, we have no means of communicating with them at all, they barely perform live, just sitting away in their studio while we're just kept waiting... Isn't this just a joke? At this rate, John Lennon will release new songs before KW does... Why can't they just release SOMETHING special, like a new album or unreleased tracks, even the old Techno Pop, anything, or just have a press conference and call it quits? Even Neu! has released their old stuff officially nowadays, KW haven't even bothered with their old albums - fans want it, but they couldn't be arsed. Matt - disgruntled and bored KW fan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:13:24 +0100 From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Huetter/Schneider e-mail address? >Just wondering is it at all possible to e-mail Ralf or Florian? > >Just to tell them how great they are They know it fairly well.... They are very concerned about their image. they asked dm 400.000 to make a jingle, they wouldn't have asked so much if they didn't know they were the best don't you think? Arnaud # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:48:13 +0100 From: "Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media" Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk - boring... It is not Kraftwerk that has a problem here - you do. You have expectations. That's why you are bored, because you expect them to do what you want and what most other artists do. Zero your expectations, Kraftwerk doesnt do anything wrong. Best regards, Glenn www.electronicshadows.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:04:35 +0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: Re: (kw) Huetter/Schneider e-mail address? >They know it fairly well.... It's the not the point that they know they are great, I might get a reply, that's the point.. I know Wolfgang has a publically available e-mail address, which is why I thought of the other two. Also, it's hardly an invasion of privacy to send someone an e-mail, I get crap all the time that I have to deal with. All they have to do is ignore it, like everyone else. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:18:35 +0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk - boring... Hi again >It is not Kraftwerk that has a problem here - you do. You have >expectations. >That's why you are bored, because you expect them to do what you want and >what most other artists do. > >Zero your expectations, Kraftwerk doesnt do anything wrong. Kraftwerk NEVER promise anything, making the times when they release material all the more rewarding. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:05:24 EST From: Mischoulon@aol.com Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #611 <> I think they already know. ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:02:37 +0000 From: volvo1971@att.net Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk - boring... I understand your feelings about being frustrated with no new material from KW. But KW doesn't owe us anything. If they decide to release something new, wonderful. If not, oh, well. There are plenty of artists who used to top the charts, then decided to produce or write and perform for other purposes such as incidental music for TV or films (like Devo's Mark Mothersby (sic) or The Police's Stuart Copeland). I Think KW is doing what they want right now...whatever that might be. I sort of think of it as a semi-retirement, at least from what we want them to be. After all R & F are in their 50s, aren't they? I'm not suggesting that they no longer can write music or be innovative. Maybe they are content with the indelible mark they made in music. Maybe it's my "Old age" speaking (I'm 33), but I'm not angry at them for their "silence." I'm also not angry at them for what some feel is a disregard for their fans. Like all of us, they have a right to privacy. Some people are more private than others. I don't think KW planned to make music history when they started tinkering with electronic sounds and industrial rhythms (all around) some 30 years ago. But they did and were thrust into the spotlight. Since then, they have given us so much...not just the recordings they made, but the other types of music that now exist thanks to them. My only hope is that they are happy with whatever they do, and know that there are many fans who love and appreciate what they have done. (Now I feel like hugging somebody!) Mike F > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:35:09 +0100 From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) VH-1 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > I hear that KW is getting a Greatest Hits program on VH1 Europe (not > > > UK) this week: > > > > Tirsdag d. 27. november 2001 > > 00:30 Greatest Hits: Kraftwork (sic!) > > Has anybody watched this? I taped it but haven't watched it yet. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:54:44 -0500 From: Martin Olson Subject: (kw) Video background music Hi all, I was just wondering if any of ya knew what track the background music of this video http://www.kraftwerk.de/flash/video_1.html is from... Sounds like there's a snippet of expo2000 in there, but maybe I'm deluded (or missing something very obvious : ) ) At any rate, the meta tag keywords for the page kinda crack me up : "Antenne, electronic music, international music, Karlsruhe, Klingklang, KRAFTWERK, Musik, official, offiziell, pop music, techno music, Tour de France,Modern Concepts" Modern concepts indeed : ) thanks in advance, - -martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:17:35 +0100 From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: Re: (kw) Video background music > >"Antenne, electronic music, international music, Karlsruhe, Klingklang, >KRAFTWERK, Musik, official, offiziell, pop music, techno music, Tour de >France,Modern Concepts" Why Karlsruhe? They live in Duesseldorf don't they? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:33:55 -0500 From: Eric Gartner Subject: Re: (kw) Video background music > I was just wondering if any of ya knew what track the background music of > this video http://www.kraftwerk.de/flash/video_1.html is from... Sounds > like there's a snippet of expo2000 in there, but maybe I'm deluded (or > missing something very obvious : ) ) That's either the Underground Resistance remix of Expo 2000, or something remarkably similar. > At any rate, the meta tag keywords for the page kinda crack me up : > > "Antenne, electronic music, international music, Karlsruhe, Klingklang, > KRAFTWERK, Musik, official, offiziell, pop music, techno music, Tour de > France,Modern Concepts" > > Modern concepts indeed : ) ModernConcepts.net is the company responsible for Kraftwerk's web site. They are mentioned in the Expo 2000 liner notes, I believe. - -Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:18:07 +0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Album suggestion I might have said it before, but there is enough material from "Tour de France", "Expo 2000" and "Expo Remix" to produce an album, it's a question of picking the best of the tracks on them. I pick 6 tracks to make a 35 minute album, they are: 1 Expo 2000 6.48/ 2 Expo 2002 5.36/ 3 Expo 2000 Orbital Mix 4.55/ 4 Expo 2000 Francois K Mix 7.20/5 Expo 2000 DJ Rolando Mix 7.29/ 6 Tour de France Radio Mix 3.07. Name of the album? Expo 2000 of course! Maybe submit this to EMI? hehe Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:15:43 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk - boring... >>> Isn't this just a joke? At this rate, John Lennon will release new songs before KW does... Why can't they just release SOMETHING special, like a new album or unreleased tracks, even the old Techno Pop, anything, or just have a press conference and call it quits? Even Neu! has released their old stuff officially nowadays, KW haven't even bothered with their old albums - fans want it, but they couldn't be arsed. <<< Yeah, and 2Pac, another dead guy, releases two double-CD sets a year. KW, I think, has been taking PR lessons from the late Stanley Kubrick. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:56:13 -0500 From: "Huggy Bear" Subject: (kw) OT - Silenced? To all my friends, around the world. This is primarily to the listowners of the lists I'm sending this out to, but if anyone else is interested... Things do not look good for my ISP - the @home service is going bankrupt, (really suprising, considering what they charge) and they may well pull the plug this weekend. If they do, I will be incommunicado via E-mail until it's resolved. Comcast (my actual ISP) is attempting to get an injunction to prevent it, but as of this writing, it still stands, and sometime this weekend (some sources say it could be as early as 3-4:am EST (0800-0900 UTC) Saturday we could lose our Internet service. So, if you suddenly don't hear from me for a while, and my E-mail starts bouncing, rest assured that it's not because I don't love you anymore...and I will be back. You can't keep a good man down. Huggy Bear, a.k.a. Bill N8TLC Warren, Michigan, USA In all the countries I've been to, everyone understands a smile. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:45:01 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Der_Doppelg=E4nger?= Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?the_true_history_of_=22kraftw=FCrg=22!_;=29?= if you wanna see something really funny about kw, just go here: http://www.nanopops.com/history/historyofkraftwerk.html ;) it gave me lots of laughs! :) - - der doppelgänger :) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:33:15 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Der_Doppelg=E4nger?= Subject: (kw) Fw: "The Pleasures of Electricity"... > Hello everyone, > > ***** > > Press release for "The Pleasures of Electricity"... > > John Foxx & Louis Gordon > Album : The Pleasures of Electricity > Label : Metamatic Records > Catalogue Number : META 004CD > Release Date : 21st of January, 2002 > > Synthesizer pioneer John Foxx releases his latest solo album, 'The > Pleasures of Electricity', on the 21st of January, 2002. This > minimalistic return to the smoked glass electronics and cold glamour > of his 1980 album, 'Metamatic', comes at a time when a new wave of > synth-pop influenced acts are breaking through, namely The Magnetic > Fields, Ladytron, Nylon Pylon, Adult, Alpinestars and Felix Da > Housecat. > > "John Foxx's dark electronics were a big influence on me." : Dave Clarke, DJ > > Chorley-born art student Foxx founded Ultravox! in 1975, working with > Brian Eno on the band's self-titled debut a few months before the > ambienteer joined forces with David Bowie. Ultravox! were Britain's > first synthesizer rock band, fusing elements of Krautrockers such as > Can, Neu! and Kraftwerk with the English art school heritage of Roxy > Music. Foxx left the band in 1979 and a year later released the > primitive, stark electro-pop classic, 'Metamatic', featuring his > first solo hit, 'Underpass'. On this album he developed a form of > urban, European blues, which would later influence Detroit techno and > UK dance acts such as Bomb The Bass's Tim Simenon who collaborated > with Foxx on their Nation 12 project at the end of the '80s. > > "The new song 'Nightlife' recalls Kraftwerk and Bowie, but > comparisons aside, proves that Foxx is his own man." : Q Magazine's > review of 'Modern Art' compilation > > Over the next few years the introspective Englishman designed a > personal, romantic style, expressed on albums such as 'The Garden' > ('81), 'The Golden Section' ('83) and 'In Mysterious Ways' ('85), but > also through painting, graphic design, book jackets and his own, as > yet unfinished novel, 'The Quiet Man'. In 1997 he made a > characteristically low-key return to the spotlight with a new > collaborator, Louis Gordon, and a new album, 'Shifting City', > described by Stephen Merritt of The Magnetic Fields as "the best > album of that year". Over the last 13 years he's toured around > churches and botanical gardens in Europe performing excerpts from > Cathedral Oceans ('97), an instrumental album inspired by Gregorian > chants and his own childhood experiences of Catholic mass. John Foxx > recently re-issued his entire back catalogue through Demon, including > a 'Best of' compilation, 'Modern Art'. > > ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 21:21:50 +0000 From: "Robert Evans" Subject: Re: (kw) the true history of "kraftwürg"! ;) >if you wanna see something really funny about kw, just go here: >http://www.nanopops.com/history/historyofkraftwerk.html ;) >it gave me lots of laughs! :) That is sheer brilliance! My favourite part is when Karl and Wolfgang get bored because Ralf and Florian do too much cycling! They are even standing in the right places!! Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 02:12:32 -0200 From: Dante de Conti Neto Subject: (kw) UPDATES DANTE.ETI.BR Guys, More updates available in ftp://ftp.dante.eti.br and expetimental site http://kraftwerk.dante.eti.br Tks to all that it has collaborated with new archives. Dante. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 00:59:10 EST From: AndrewNelles1@aol.com Subject: (kw) 1981 shows Can any one send me MP3's of some complete 1981 shows, or upload them somewhere? I only have the london show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 23:06:03 +0100 From: Hajnal Csaba Subject: (kw) Re: 1981 shows > Can any one send me MP3's of some complete 1981 shows, or upload them > somewhere? I only have the london show. Some weeks ago I have found a Hungarian ftp server which contains the 1981 concert in Budapest. (KW had two concerts in the August of 1981.) The server gets password, thus I wrote to the owner of the ftp server but he didn't answer yet. I will try it again. Check it: ftp://mp3@radio.disp.hu:21/d%3A/mp3/Kraftwerk/Kraftwerk%20Live%201981%20Budapest/ - -Csaba # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 07:06:13 +0000 From: "Kraftwerk 81" Subject: (kw) Trying To Catch-Up
Hey everyone !!!!
 
It's Josh here; I've been away for MONTHS due to a major screw-up with my computer, but somehow I managed to get back online somehow. I have no idea how long it'll last before the system starts crashing again, so if I disappear again for another extended length of time, then you'll know why. ;-)
Anyways, I've been wondering what's been going on lately in the world of our greatly beloved, highly underrated pop kings. Forgive me for not reading any of the latest posts or FAQ's; a lot of mail was deleted from my account.
 
All I know is that the US Expo Remix single from Astralwerks has FINALLY been released, and that's about it.
Anything else I should know ????

BTW, I think it would be cool if Astralwerks reissued the first three KW albums along with Tone Float, similar to the recent Neu! reissues. Now that they're all somehow affiliated with each other, I feel that this would make perfect sense.

Or if EMI reissued the whole catalog altogether, remastered with extended notes;etc. This would really help in the US with all of the scattered label releases out there (Warner Bros., Elektra, Capitol; etc.) .

Of course this will never happen.  ;-P

 

- - - "The young who listen to Rock know who Jimi Hendrix is, but an 18 year old kid does not know Kraftwerk." - - -

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