From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #113 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Monday, July 28 1997 Volume 03 : Number 113 In this issue: Re: (kw) Drecker (?) FM review (not Kraftwerk) Re: (kw) Karlsruhe gig - list. (kw) robots video [none] Re: (kw) Drecker (?) FM review (not Kraftwerk) [none] Re: (kw) Robots Video (Where to serve?) (kw) Cover, My Ass!! (kw) NEW ALBUM INFO (kw) Karl Bartos e-mail? Re: (kw) Robots Video (Where to serve?) (kw) tour image (kw) Robots Video (Problem Solved) Re: (kw) Remake Re: (kw) Robots Video (Problem Solved) Re: (kw) Remake (kw) Fwd: tour image (kw) tour image Re: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?q?What=B4s?= all this then? (kw) tour image (kw) tour image (kw) tour image (kw) New date & I'm out... Re: (kw) New date & I'm out... (kw) John Foxx (little Kraftwerk content) Re: (kw) tour image (kw) The Robots as a political song SV: (kw) The Robots as a political song Re: (kw) The Robots as a political song RE:(kw) Karlsruhe gig - list. (kw) Are KW Excited? (kw) I'm Back! - The Sequel to the Sequel!!! Re: (kw) Are KW Excited? (kw) "This is Space" See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:13:01 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) Drecker (?) FM review (not Kraftwerk) It would be alot better without the feamle vocals if you ask me, but as you are not I will shut up! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:16:26 +0200 (CES) From: unhj@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Harald Westphal) Subject: Re: (kw) Karlsruhe gig - list. According to DepecheCBI@aol.com: > here the first part of the list (as I suppose) : > > Carsten Bolte DepecheCBI@aol.com > Dirk Fellhauer D.Fellhauer@Fh-Worms.de > Roland Metzger Roland_Metzger@compuserve.com > Leon Mols Imols@pi.net > Adam (L) Read adamr@world.net Addition to the list: Harald Westphal unhj@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de I've updated my Karlsruhe info page. There is now a map of the inner city of Karlsruhe and a short description how to get to the ZKM building. URL: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/kwlive.html - -- Harald Westphal *** eMail Harald.Westphal@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de - -- "Am Heimcomputer sitz' ich hier, programmier' die Zukunft mir." -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 08:22:40 -0500 From: Tiger Moses Subject: (kw) robots video all the space you want/need ftp it to 206.42.44.213 via anonymous I'm already hosting some ktraftwerk RA files from TG I'd like the 'big momma file', but not sure what "modem" users are going to be able to bring down I'm running 128K ISDN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:30:08 +0200 From: "Dirk V. Fellhauer" Subject: [none] Hi all ! Just in case you=B4ve tried to send an email to me privatelyduring the last two days -=20 my server crashed - so I was=B4t able to receive it. Please post again ! Thanks,=20 Hallo ! Mein Mails sind ausgefallen, falls Ihr mir in den letzten zwei tagen etwas gemailt habt, dann schickt es bitte nochmal. Danke, Dirk Es wird immer weitergehn, Musik als Traeger von Ideen ! KRAFTWERK - MUSIC NON STOP name dirk fellhauer =20 mail d.fellhauer@fh-worms.de =20 page under construction age 28 =20 starsign pisces =20 alias Voice, Adorion =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:41:20 -0200 From: Thomas Morper Subject: Re: (kw) Drecker (?) FM review (not Kraftwerk) At 02:30 25.07.1997 +0200, you wrote: >and who are this Olive? "You're not alone" - it's quite popular at the moment. And the video is rather interesting! Somewhere in the middle of it an "Autobahn"-sign appears on the screen for a very short moment. In my opinion it is just too much "by the way" to be really without any intention. What do you think? Bye, Tomasz (tmorper@karlstadt.netsurf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:53:46 +0200 From: POP Thomas Morper Subject: [none] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 02:48:37 +0200 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Video (Where to serve?) At 20:53 24/07/97 -0600, you wrote: >That can be done, but again not for a long term. Just till everyone has >all the pieces. yes, this is exactly what I meant. say for one month or so, then if someone need it it could be resolved "privately". >> or we could also use the usenet for this, so nobody's space is wasted... > >What newsgroup? I don't get any newsgroups here with "kraft" in the name. >Would we make a new one for this purpose? a ng for Kraftwerk would be of course a nice idea, but I think it will replicate this list, and anyway if I am not wrong there should already be a german one, dm.music.electronic.kraftwerk, avaiable through news.dm.net. I don't even know if it work because I had to quit ngs having no time to follow them. anyway there certainly should be an alt.bin.sounds or something somewhere... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:17:45 -0700 From: Andrew FALTONSON Subject: (kw) Cover, My Ass!! I'm planning a 6 hour radio program on KRAFTWERK!! I, in this case, must focus on their music. I must admit that the Vietnamese story is wonderful and speaks for the power of this music. In search of levels of legitimacy, I find that since all music copies something, the closer to the source I much prefer to be!! No intentional obscurifications intended. I merely cheer for the seldom found 'original' art over 'Jive bunny' monstrosities that clog the arteries with Mcdonald's like sound fat. No thanks!! It's hard work to make something personal and unique but it's a necessity for an artist. OK.......I use samplers but I process the Hell out of it!! Moving out of range I remain dedicated to a single divining moment that says....inspiration. Pax...... *************************************************************************** Andrew FALTONSON---------------actor,artist,composer,poet,photographer, c/o "Resonant Dwarf" radio producer,sound designer & writer. PO Box 95902 Seattle, WA 98145 \\Csound, Finale, MAX & StudioVision// dru@oz.net \\Photoshop, Illustrator// http://www.oz.net/~dru CMC #1479 "The unconscious no sooner touches us than we it--we become unconscious of ourselves. That is the age old danger, instinctively known and feared by primative man, who himself stands so very close to this pleroma. His unconscious is still uncertain, wobbling on its feet. It is still childish, having just emerged from the primal waters." -----------Carl Gustav Jung *************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:05:58 +0000 From: JPM Subject: (kw) NEW ALBUM INFO Just got the news today that KRAFTWERK has DEFINITLY got an album in the works. There are no vocals to the album yet but the music is mostly complete. The record company does have a DEMO copy at this moment,but again ,no vocals. No release date given yet either. I will get back to everyone once I find out how it sounds myself, In the mean time I've HEARD it sounds great. - -- Jason....... JPM The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama (Please update your links to the one below) http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocoders.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 16:59:31 +0200 From: "Rafa" Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos e-mail? Hello all, Check this e-mail search site and look for Karl Bartos... http://www.four11.com/. Regards. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:33:38 -0500 From: Eric Oehler Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Video (Where to serve?) lbo wrote: > > At 20:53 24/07/97 -0600, you wrote: > > >That can be done, but again not for a long term. Just till everyone > >has all the pieces. > What format is this all in? I mean, it's a five minute video, right? I'm sure it can be downsized and recompressed with quicktime to be a reasonable size for the net (if I can get it all in one place I could try it myself) maybe down to a few meg... Then hosting space wouldn't be as much of a problem. Quality would be a bit lossier, but it's better than nothing! - -- =--------------------------Eric Oehler-----------------------------= | wonko@itis.com http://www.itis.com/~wonko | =------------------------------------------------------------------= Save the whales! Collect the whole set. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 18:07:39 METDST From: Mats Kadmark Subject: (kw) tour image Hello, KW-mailing-list-subscribers!!! Perhaps you have noticed that the "www.kraftwerk.com"-web page now works again, at first sight nothing seems to have changed, however the picture quality of the Tour de France image has improved! Before, they used an image of half the size of the image displayed, and then had it doubled, now the actual size is shown, which means that the picture quality is doubled. Have you also noticed that the three first cyclists all have Huetter's face and the last one Florian's? - Bartos's and Fluer's faces are not shown (T. Weckert wrote me privately about this earlier but now it appears much more clearly than before). What do you think about this - ? I think it is really strange that they have changed the original image. It is like if they have censored the picture because they don't want to be connected with Fluer and Bartos anymore.... CUL8R! Mats P.S. at last an interesting topic to discuss : ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 16:29:17 PDT From: "Pete Liethen" Subject: (kw) Robots Video (Problem Solved) Well, after cleaning up my web pages so that they take up less space and converting the resoultion to 160x120 and upped the compersion, I was able to fit it on my server. It is 10.8 Mb zip compressed and is playable on all computers. PLEASE, Everyone don't downlad it all at once. I am limited to 100 megs of transfers a day. If this is a problem for me, I will forced to have people send me request to download it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 01:30:46 -0700 From: Bjarke Monsted Subject: Re: (kw) Remake Uffe Silverup wrote: > Liebe "Werkers" ;-) > > Browsing though a mailorder list I found 2 Kraftwerk 12" called Remake > Red and Remake Blue. > > Does anyone have any information about these? > > The mailorder company calls them "semi-official" (havnt we heard that > one before?). > > Its supposed to be Acid and Trance versions of T.E.E. and > Radioactivity. (it probably is though) > > Oh yes, send your adds for the Marktplatz NOW!!! :-) > > Uffe > > _________________________________________________ Hi Uffe... I have both the 12 inch youre talking about.... The first one / The red.. Is pressed in red vinyl, and there are no labels at all... Its in a white cover with a red sticker saying KOMPUTERKRAFT The blue one, is blue vinyl, and in a thick plastic cover with a black/white copy of a picture of Kraftwerk. I do not remember the Record Company and artist right now, but I have it somewhere. There is no catalogue numbers on them.... They are scratched away so you cant see them. But anyway... I like the albums, especially teh red one, so if you are in to psycedelic trance, and Kraftwerk, I can only tell you to buy these two records. The rumours says that there is a third album coming in the series, and it shoul be yellow or orange.... Thats what I know... Hope it helps you.... Bjarke / Denmark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 17:41:21 PDT From: "Pete Liethen" Subject: Re: (kw) Robots Video (Problem Solved) >From owner-kraftwerk@xmission.com Sat Jul 26 16:48:54 1997 >Received: from domo by mail.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.62 #4) > id 0wsGI1-0002Ts-00; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 17:30:21 -0600 >Received: from f51.hotmail.com [207.82.250.62] > by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #4) > id 0wsGHy-0002R2-00; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 17:30:18 -0600 >Well, after cleaning up my web pages so that they take up less space and >converting the resoultion to 160x120 and upped the compersion, I was >able to fit it on my server. It is 10.8 Mb zip compressed and is >playable on all computers. > >PLEASE, Everyone don't downlad it all at once. I am limited to 100 megs >of transfers a day. If this is a problem for me, I will forced to have >people send me request to download it. Well like a moron, I forgot to include a URL to my pages; http://www.dragonfire.net/~petenet Click on Kraftwerk once you get there. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 03:00:10 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Remake > > Browsing though a mailorder list I found 2 Kraftwerk 12" called Remake > > Red and Remake Blue. > > Its supposed to be Acid and Trance versions of T.E.E. and > > Radioactivity. (it probably is though) Yes, I've seen the red one labelled as "Radioactivity" in some shops, but in fact it contains mixes of "Trans Europe Express" and "Computer Love". > The rumours says that there is a third album coming in the series, and > it shoul be yellow or orange.... I know of the following versions: 1. Red (TEE / Computer Love) 2. Pink (same tracks as on 1.) 3. Green (same tracks as on 1.) 4. Blue (TEE (different to the version on 1.) / Homecomputer) 5. Yellow ( ? / ?) Additions welcome... :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:30:20 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) Fwd: tour image - ------------------------------------------------=20 Hello, Craig! Could you forward this to the list if it doesn't get=20 through as this is the fourth time I send it....And if it does get=20 through....why didn't it work before?....and if it doesn't get through,=20 why doesn't it??=20 - ------------------------------------------------ =20 =20 Hello, KW-mailing-list-subscribers!!!=20 =20 Perhaps you have noticed that the "www.kraftwerk.com"-web page now=20 works again, at first sight nothing seems to have changed, however the=20 picture quality of the Tour de France image has improved!=20 =20 Before, they used an image of half the size of the image displayed, and=20 then had it doubled, now the actual size is shown, which means that the=20 picture quality is doubled.=20 =20 Have you also noticed that the three first cyclists all have Huetter's=20 face and the last one Florian's? - Bartos's and Fluer's faces are not=20 shown (T. Weckert wrote me privately about this earlier but now it=20 appears much more clearly than before).=20 =20 What do you think about this - ? =20 =20 I think it is really strange that they have changed the original image.=20 It is like if they have censored the picture because they don't want to=20 be connected with Fluer and Bartos anymore....=20 =20 CUL8R!=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 P.S. at last an interesting topic to discuss : )=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:06:44 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) tour image Hello, KW-mailing-list-subscribers!!!=20 =20 Perhaps you have noticed that the "www.kraftwerk.com"-web page now=20 works again, at first sight nothing seems to have changed, however the=20 picture quality of the Tour de France image has improved!=20 =20 Before, they used an image of half the size of the image displayed, and=20 then had it doubled, now the actual size is shown, which means that the=20 picture quality is doubled.=20 =20 Have you also noticed that the three first cyclists all have Huetter's=20 face and the last one Florian's? - Bartos's and Fluer's faces are not=20 shown (T. Weckert wrote me privately about this earlier but now it=20 appears much more clearly than before).=20 =20 What do you think about this - ? =20 =20 I think it is really strange that they have changed the original image.=20 It is like if they have censored the picture because they don't want to=20 be connected with Fluer and Bartos anymore....=20 =20 CUL8R!=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 P.S. at last an interesting topic to discuss : )=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:24:43 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: Re: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?q?What=B4s?= all this then? johan.andersson@allers.aller.se,internet writes:=20 =20 >I tried to go in on kraftwerk.com today (I=B4ve got it as my home) and=20 >got this=20 >message "Page Unavailable =20 ...=20 >I=B4m really worried! Help! /johan=20 =20 Hopefully they are just UPDATING the page ! ! !=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 BTW This has happened before and they started the page again some days=20 later....=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:06:44 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) tour image Hello, KW-mailing-list-subscribers!!!=20 =20 Perhaps you have noticed that the "www.kraftwerk.com"-web page now=20 works again, at first sight nothing seems to have changed, however the=20 picture quality of the Tour de France image has improved!=20 =20 Before, they used an image of half the size of the image displayed, and=20 then had it doubled, now the actual size is shown, which means that the=20 picture quality is doubled.=20 =20 Have you also noticed that the three first cyclists all have Huetter's=20 face and the last one Florian's? - Bartos's and Fluer's faces are not=20 shown (T. Weckert wrote me privately about this earlier but now it=20 appears much more clearly than before).=20 =20 What do you think about this - ? =20 =20 I think it is really strange that they have changed the original image.=20 It is like if they have censored the picture because they don't want to=20 be connected with Fluer and Bartos anymore....=20 =20 CUL8R!=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 P.S. at last an interesting topic to discuss : )=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:06:44 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) tour image Hello, KW-mailing-list-subscribers!!!=20 =20 Perhaps you have noticed that the "www.kraftwerk.com"-web page now=20 works again, at first sight nothing seems to have changed, however the=20 picture quality of the Tour de France image has improved!=20 =20 Before, they used an image of half the size of the image displayed, and=20 then had it doubled, now the actual size is shown, which means that the=20 picture quality is doubled.=20 =20 Have you also noticed that the three first cyclists all have Huetter's=20 face and the last one Florian's? - Bartos's and Fluer's faces are not=20 shown (T. Weckert wrote me privately about this earlier but now it=20 appears much more clearly than before).=20 =20 What do you think about this - ? =20 =20 I think it is really strange that they have changed the original image.=20 It is like if they have censored the picture because they don't want to=20 be connected with Fluer and Bartos anymore....=20 =20 CUL8R!=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 P.S. at last an interesting topic to discuss : )=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 19:06:44 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) tour image Hello, KW-mailing-list-subscribers!!!=20 =20 Perhaps you have noticed that the "www.kraftwerk.com"-web page now=20 works again, at first sight nothing seems to have changed, however the=20 picture quality of the Tour de France image has improved!=20 =20 Before, they used an image of half the size of the image displayed, and=20 then had it doubled, now the actual size is shown, which means that the=20 picture quality is doubled.=20 =20 Have you also noticed that the three first cyclists all have Huetter's=20 face and the last one Florian's? - Bartos's and Fluer's faces are not=20 shown (T. Weckert wrote me privately about this earlier but now it=20 appears much more clearly than before).=20 =20 What do you think about this - ? =20 =20 I think it is really strange that they have changed the original image.=20 It is like if they have censored the picture because they don't want to=20 be connected with Fluer and Bartos anymore....=20 =20 CUL8R!=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 P.S. at last an interesting topic to discuss : )=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:42:40 +0200 From: Lars Bull Subject: (kw) New date & I'm out... Hi all, You probably have noticed by know; Ticketworld have added Linz to Kraftwerks tour-dates. If anyone lives in or knows anything about the two places, which one should I choose? Unfortunately I can only go once. From previous postings Karlsruhe sounds great. I'm off the list for three weeks now (vacation). Hiroshi and Adam Read; please mail me privately about the record-trades and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Bye for now Lars Bull "No RISC - No Fun" MacForum Foreningsgatan 31 411 27 Goteborg Sweden E-Mail: lars.bull@macforum.se WWW: www.macforum.se Fax: +46 31 721 31 01 Telephone: +46 31 721 31 00 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:15:23 +0200 (MEST) From: Subject: Re: (kw) New date & I'm out... Hi! On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Lars Bull wrote: > You probably have noticed by know; Ticketworld have added Linz to > Kraftwerks tour-dates. If anyone lives in or knows anything about the two > places, which one should I choose? Unfortunately I can only go once. From > previous postings Karlsruhe sounds great. I am from Linz (not exactly, i live about 15 km north of Linz, but i was born there an spent my first 25 years there. The Concert will be on 16th of October in Posthof. The Posthof is the main culure centre here in Linz. The Posthof consists of 3 Concert Halls (Rooms). The largest Hall can be filled with approx. 1700 People. There is a area for standing in the front of the stage, in the back of the Hall there are seats located, like in a stadium. In my opinion, Posthof is the best location for a concert in Austria with the Brucknerhaus, where the last kw-gig took place at the Ars Electronica Festival in June 93. The Brucknerhaus has the best accoustic of the whole world, but it is primary a Concert House for classical Music. You are not allowed to smoke in there. Also you are also not allowed to smoke in the Posthof, but everybody does... There is also a restaurant located in the Posthof, which would be nice for a Mailing List Meeting.......... I do not know anything about the Karlsruhe ZMK, but: The accoustic in Posthof is great. You can see a lot, whereever you stand during the Concert. All Concerts in Posthof have the special Club-Athmosphere... Now Linz: If someone hasnt recognized yet: Linz is the third largest Town of Austria with approx. 200.000 Inhabitants. You can reach Linz by Car: Linz is connected to the A1 the main motorway of Austria, if you come from the south of Germany: via Munich, Salzburg, LINZ, Vienna. If you come from more northern Parts of Germany: Nuernberg, Passau, Wels, LINZ, From Italy (Milan): Brennero, Innsbruck, Kufstein, Rosenheim, Salburg, LINZ From Italy (Udine) via the A10 (Tauernautobahn): Tarvisio, Arnoldstein, Spittal, Bischofshofen, Salzburg, LINZ From Hungary: Hegyeshalom, Vienna, LINZ From Praque: Dolni Dvoriste, Linz By train similar as by car. By plane: The Airport of Linz is HOERSCHING. General Linz Information: http://www.linz.at http://info.linz.at If you want more detailed Information on Linz/Kraftwerk or other stuff, please drop me a note: alpezi@zilli.priv.at More Informations will follow....... Greetings from Austria zilli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:17:15 +0200 From: lbo Subject: (kw) John Foxx (little Kraftwerk content) I come back to the newsstand where I found the july number of Future Music magazine with the John Foxx interview, and try to gave a better look at it. At the moment I cannot buy it because it's relatively expensive, we're talking about money only after 15/08, sigh... also, I gave just a quick look at it, because I'm a good old client of the shop, but I know they don't like too much standing reading. The interview looked very interesting, with John talking about the evolution of electronic and dance music and his tastes for it. The tone looked to be very soft and not in the egocentric way I somewhat always supposed Foxx should have had (I have always liked his music, but he gave me the impression of a primadonna, but in the interview he seemed to be a very nice guy - anyway two friends of mine still remember with anger that they had to run away from bad security men he pointed them to because they were recording his concert with a walkman). He is now collaborating with a guy I don't remember the name and have their own rec studio. Two (!) album of him (them) are out now, I did not find out if they were composed in the same period or if one was just dormient for years. One is called "Shifting cities" or something, and is the "easy" one (you know that Foxx in the last years turned to a sort of neoclassical religious music), described in very good terms by the magazine as the updated version of the milestone "Metamatic", one of the most beautiful albums ever, for me, that was said from the magazine to be "the first completely electronic english pop album" (it come, if I'm not wrong, immediately after his splitting from Ultravox). Through the album, said the magazine, you could hear Kraftwerk-like bleeps and beatlesy (sp?) vocals. I did not catch the title of the other one, but this should be in the neoclassical style of above. This lend me to think that this is the "dormient" album. In cd that come with the magazine there are a song from each one of the albums. now, for the affectionate readers: FM and The Mix come from the same publisher? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:35:31 +0200 From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: Re: (kw) tour image oooooops......=20 =20 Sorry that my message turned up so many times...it was because by=20 mailing server broke down and didn't send my e-mails. So I tried and=20 tried...but nothing happened...AND NOW the server sent my last week and=20 a half's messages all at the same time......=20 =20 Mats=20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:02:47 +0200 From: Conny Fornbäck Subject: (kw) The Robots as a political song During the weekend I have attended a pop/dance-festival here in Stockholm called "Lollipop". Yesterday I managed to catch a glimpse of the Swedish straight edge/hardcore-band "Teddybears Sthlm" playing their well-known and well-performed cover of "The Robots". It's interesting how they have managed to make a pure angry political song out of "The Robots" without altering the lyrics at all. They announced the song as "beeing about the followers of the Swedish Conservative Party and about countries practising death sentences". Even though Teddybears Sthlm are a bit comical in their blind rage against everything they consider bad, they certainly managed to put a scary meaning into textlines as "we are programmed just to do / everything you want us to". Or am I beeing naîve here, believing that Kraftwerk didn't purposely add a deeper meaning when they wrote the lyrics? Anyhow, 20 minutes before this, I saw David Bowie (or rather his bass player Gail Ann Dorsey) make a stunning drum'n'bass version of Laurie Anderson's "O Superman". But I guess I'm digressing... /Conny Fornbäck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:47:17 +-200 From: Uffe Silverup Subject: SV: (kw) The Robots as a political song > Conny Fornb=E4ck Wrote: =20 > Anyhow, 20 minutes before this, I saw David Bowie (or rather his bass > player Gail Ann Dorsey) make a stunning drum'n'bass version of Laurie > Anderson's "O Superman". But I guess I'm digressing... Having seen Bowie on Friday the 25th here in Malmo, I have to agree = completely with Conny. The version of "O Superman" was indeed stunning!! As well as a NIN:esque version of "Look Back In Anger". Well, catch the man if he plays at a theatre near you!;-) Uffe=20 / # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:15:32 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) The Robots as a political song Conny Fornbäck wrote: > > > Or am I beeing naîve here, believing that Kraftwerk didn't purposely add > a deeper meaning when they wrote the lyrics? > All KW songs are highly political. Mostly because of the topics. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:20:20 +0100 From: "Reeuwijk, W.B." Subject: RE:(kw) Karlsruhe gig - list. Subject: (kw) Karlsruhe gig - list. Hi! here the first part of the list (as I suppose) : Carsten Bolte DepecheCBI@aol.com Dirk Fellhauer D.Fellhauer@Fh-Worms.de Roland Metzger Roland_Metzger@compuserve.com Leon Mols Imols@pi.net Adam (L) Read adamr@world.net Bas van Reeuwijk W.B.vanReeuwijk@research.kpn.com everybody who will be in Karlsruhe and wants a meeting: please put your name in ! Carsten Bolte. Kiel. it's more fun to compute # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:59:59 +0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Are KW Excited? I wonder if KW are now excited that a German has won the Tour De France?! Maybe we could be in for some '97 remixes of Tdf............ Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:50:39 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: (kw) I'm Back! - The Sequel to the Sequel!!! Hi fellow Kraftwerkians!! After a long stint in south-east asia, I'm back!!! I've got a hell of a lot of mail to plough through, so I'll try to answer those who mailed me in the next few days!!=20 Oh, please note, like Scott, I've changed ISP also. My new email address is: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk I won't answer mail coming to compuserve from the end of August. I've only got a couple of question to pose to the list: 1. Did Kraftwerk play any new songs at the Tribal Gathering? 2. Where's Bruce?? :-))) ps. Scott, I've changed ISP!! (you know what that means!!) - -------------------------------------------- Jules Seifert 'The Voice of Energy' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:24:04 +0200 (MST) From: Thomas Weckert Subject: Re: (kw) Are KW Excited? On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Craig Land wrote: > > I wonder if KW are now excited that a German has won the Tour De > France?! > > Maybe we could be in for some '97 remixes of Tdf............ > Best Regards, > > Craig. > At least a few TV stations use the Tour de France soundtrack to advertise their reports on the tour. I was this morning in Bonn to see my heroes arrive back from Paris, the local radio station playing Kraftwerk's Tour de France. Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:05:21 +0200 (DFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "This is Space" Found at the Tangerine Dream mailing list (tadream@cs.uwp.edu): > I came across another new 1997 box set released on the US Cleopatra > label [...] > It is titled "This is Space" at a "Killer Price!" and contains 4 CDs. > CD 1 and 2 is a re-package of the Various Artists (VA) compilation "Space > Daze" which features Kraftwerk, Hawkwind, The Orb, Helios Creed, The > Legendary Pink Dots, Gong, Ozric Tentacles, Spiral Realms, Brian Eno, > Pressurehead, Syd Barrett, Amon Duul II, Nik Turner, and Tangerine > Dream (Movements of a Visionary). > CD 3 is the same as the VA compilation "Space Daze 2000" and features FSOL, > Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Anubian Nights, Klaus Schulze (Wahnfried 1883), David > Bowie, Zero Gravity, and Fripp and Eno amongst others. > CD 4 is called a bonus CD and features an ambient CD by "Dead Voices on > Air" - New World Machine. 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