From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #136 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Sunday, September 7 1997 Volume 03 : Number 136 In this issue: Re: (kw) He is a robot! Re: (kw) He is a robot! Re: (kw) Karlsruhe gig - list update. Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! (kw) Rumour Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! RE: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! Re: (kw) Rumour (kw) Wolfgang in NYC? Re: (kw) Rumour (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic Re: (kw) Rumour (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock Re: (kw) Robotics Re: (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock (kw) Laserdiscs Re: (kw) Robotics Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic Re: (kw) KW Video Collection Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic Re: (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock (kw) Tribal Gathering / UK TV Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering / UK TV Re: (kw) Karlsruhe gig - list update. Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic (kw) I will be there!!! Re: (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 18:59:28 +0000 From: "Jose Gonzalez" Subject: Re: (kw) He is a robot! > > > >He is a robot! > > > > > > > > >http://www.honda.co.jp/tech/other/robot.html > > hello .jp fellows and thanks for the link! could you give a > translation of the text, if you think is relevant, because I only see > a lot of strange characters (not that I can read ideograms anyway... > :-) ). but the main question is: does it include airbag ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 02:30:59 +0900 From: blanks@super.win.or.jp (BLANKS) Subject: Re: (kw) He is a robot! At 3:35 AM 97.9.6 +0000, lbo@jolly.iol.it wrote: >> >He is a robot! >> > >> > >> >http://www.honda.co.jp/tech/other/robot.html > >hello .jp fellows and thanks for the link! could you give a >translation of the text, if you think is relevant, because I only see >a lot of strange characters (not that I can read ideograms anyway... :-) ). Hi Ibo. Why don't you go this english-page as below? :-) http://www.honda.co.jp/home/hpr/e_news/robot/index.html Sincerely yours. from Tokyo Japan SAKURA UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 19:55:48 +0200 From: Leon Mols Subject: Re: (kw) Karlsruhe gig - list update. lbo@jolly.iol.it wrote: > > Who will pay for the drinks ? > > Kraftwerk and their fans are supposed to be sober, aren't they? Oops, I guess I'm not a real fan then :-) Leon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 21:12:07 +0200 From: Peter Subject: Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! jbv wrote: > But please, think for one second : did you see the piece of crap they > published on their Web site ? Do you really want to spend 50 DM x3 = > 150 DM to see a bunch of old has beens showing up in green-salad suits > and ridiculous glasses (they don't even have sexy legs) pretending > they are the godfathers of techno ? > Why don't you take your girlfriend to a nice restaurant instead, and > make plans for the future with her ? I had plans to go to Karlsruhe...but I saw them in Stockholm '91 and that new song is crap. But people seems to think that disliking that new material meens that you dislike Kraftwerk. That is not the case, you can admire Kraftwerks previous work and dislike the 30 second video! > But she kept saying that THE MIX had nothing to do with techno, that > R&F were only a couple of has beens trying to keep in tune at any cost > with what's going on these days, etc. etc. I've tried to tell younger people about the greatness of Kraftwerk, but often they just saying "so what?". Kraftwerk was a real influential power in the seventies, but younger forces have since then developed their ideas. Visiting a Kraftwerk consert today is like going to a KISS consert, great tunes from the past. I really would like to see Kraftwerk again hoping they play their old songs, but the new stuff I'm afraid will disappoint me. I've spent a lot of time listening to Kraftwerk and reading the postings to this list, but I'm begining to feel like those pathetic Elvis fans who refuses to grow up and put their energy into something more living. I think jbv with his postings really has come close to the feelings that a lot of members to this list have. Peter Kraftwerk, The Early Years '68 - '73 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8880/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 21:37:31 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Rumour Found at de.rec.music.elektronisch: > unbestaetigten geruechten zurfolge (wie immer bei KW) soll in karlsruhe > das neue album vorgestellt werden und zwar mit mehr als einem stueck. ;) > ausserdem soll das konzert laenger sein, als das beim tribal gathering, bei dem > sie nicht soviel zeit hatten, wie sie benoetigten. It is rumoured that Kraftwerk will play more new songs from their forthcoming album in Karlsruhe. It is also reported that the concert will be longer than the Tribal Gathering gig, where Kraftwerk didn't have as much time as they needed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 22:22:12 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! Peter wrote: > >I had plans to go to Karlsruhe...but I saw them in Stockholm '91 and >that new song is crap. Yeah ! I have at least one friend on this list ! Ra wrote : >I thought the suits were a cool idea. Reminds me of Tron in some ways. EXACTLY ! And this is stuff from 15 years ago ! And I will even dare to say that 15 years ago, DEVO showed up in much more funny & fresh looks / disguise. Q : are we not men-machine ? A : we are DEVO ! D-E-V-O ! > They don't need to pretend. They are. (the godfathers of thechno) You're certainly right. But anyway, I'd like to get the answer to a very simple question : WHY ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 17:15:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! >>I thought the suits were a cool idea. Reminds me of Tron in some ways. > >EXACTLY ! >And this is stuff from 15 years ago ! True, but one thing many of us have always enjoyed about Kraftwerk is the strong sense of nostalgia which permeates their work with regard to the celebration of concepts and creations of an earlier time (ie: Radio-Activity, T.E.E., Pocket Calculator, The Telephone Call, etc.). Whenever I think of Tron, it takes me back fondly to a time when video arcades ruled the day, and "Computer World" was always blasting from the phonograph. Kraftwerk had a vital presence for me at that time, so I personally find it most enjoyable and appropriate when they themselves recreate that time. >> They don't need to pretend. They are. (the godfathers of thechno) > >You're certainly right. >But anyway, I'd like to get the answer to a very simple question : WHY ? Why? Because, IMHO, Kraftwerk laid down a solid foundation and paved the way for much of the music which would go on to develop into forms of synth-pop, hip-hop, industrial, techno, and other electronic genres. Laying a foundation and paving a way are precisely those traits that "godfathers" of anything are known for possessing, and Kraftwerk does indeed fit that bill. - -- Scott nebulous@erols.com "We're charging our battery..." P.S. - Am I the only one out here that likes the new KW song? If I am, that's still cool as I've always enjoyed being somewhat different. :-) hehe.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:50:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! On Sat, 6 Sep 1997, jbv wrote: > And I will even dare to say that 15 years ago, DEVO showed up in much > more funny & fresh looks / disguise. > > Q : are we not men-machine ? > A : we are DEVO ! D-E-V-O ! I wonder what Devo would have made of the Borg? > > They don't need to pretend. They are. (the godfathers of thechno) > > You're certainly right. > But anyway, I'd like to get the answer to a very simple question : WHY ? They came out with an innovative new sound that captured peoples' imaginations. Lots of European groups started to imitate it while in America club-type people found it danceable thanks to Afrika Bambaataa. People started to imitate him too, and the whole techno scene was moved by that. The European side I don't know much about but it seems to have produced more trance and ambient than techno. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 23:58:02 +0200 From: mars.sjoestrand@stockholm.mail.telia.com Subject: Re: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! > >I thought the suits were a cool idea. Reminds me of Tron in some ways. > > EXACTLY ! > And this is stuff from 15 years ago ! Does it matter what they were wearing under two songs of TG performance? They did it to match the grahpics on the screens while they were playing Music non stop, and they had them during this new song becouse it should have been to many breaks in the show otherwise. I cant understand why peopele want to sell their tickets to the Karlsruhe and the Linz gigs only becouse a 37 seconds long (very nice) avi file on their official homepage . So long.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 18:03:14 -0400 From: Joel Provost Subject: RE: (kw) GASP !!!! 10,000 times GASP !!!! >I've spent a lot of time listening to Kraftwerk and reading the postings >to this list, but I'm begining to feel like those pathetic Elvis fans >who refuses to grow up and put their energy into something more living. Last I heard, Elvis was dead. Kraftwerk is alive and well and performing, creating web pages etc... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 19:16:59 -0400 From: "A. D. Alvarez" Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour <> Thanks for the translation and posting. :) - -- Aldo Alvarez Editor Blithe House Quarterly: a site for gay short fiction http://www.spectra.net/~aalvarez/BHQ.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 18:31:11 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) Wolfgang in NYC? So did anyone get a chance to see Wolfgang at the CMJ music festival this week? There was an article about it (not mentioning the WolfMan) in the NY Daily News, but the phone number they listed was that of someone who was going to be away during the week because of the festival (!?!!)-- his answering machine referred me to the CMJ web site, where I couldn't find any information about Wolfgang or Yamo. Maybe he was on one of the panels, which is too bad because it costs over $300 to register for them... Damn! ...boom tschak. Hey, that almost sounds like a song. I feel better now. :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 20:45:52 +0100 From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour Considering the time and expense the Tribal gatehring organisers spent on securing Kraftwerks performance, I am very surprised they then placed time restrictions on the length of the set, and since I have never know them play a set longer than 2 hours... and they started 5 minutes late (10:05pm) and finished early (11:57) I think this rumour about the length of their set should be placed in the bin... Import or bootleg 12"s of "Tour De France"/"Computer Love" are now surfacing in Birmingham in the UK, as well as newly pressed copies of the standard "Tour De France" 12".... See ya, "Dancing mekanik", mark In message <9709061937.AA30130@public.uni-hamburg.de>, Klaus Zaepke writes > > >It is rumoured that Kraftwerk will play more new songs from their >forthcoming album in Karlsruhe. It is also reported that the concert >will be longer than the Tribal Gathering gig, where Kraftwerk didn't >have as much time as they needed. > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. ># Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 00:39:01 -0400 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic Hey, fellow 'werkers! I had to tell all y'all about this dope concert. Please bear with me. I had the pleasure of seeing the first concert of this year's CMJ (College Music Journal) convention in NYC. It was an electronica event featuring Fluke, the Sneaker Pimps, Daft Punk, Death in Vegas, The Crystal Method, and the highlight: APHEX TWIN, the True and Living God. Fluke was good, sort of psychedelic. There were four people: two behind rows of machines, one who looked like a reject from the rock bands of the late '60s who sang, and a woman who looked like Bjork in an anime. She was wearing fluorescent clothing that glowed in the dark when the light shown on her properly. The Sneaker Pimps had no business being at that concert. They were trying to cross alternative rock with trip-hop. They had a live drummer which is an automatic turn-off--I want to see some turntables! There were some devoted fans of the band there, though. It was a good show, but it wasn't my style of music. It was a bit like acid rock from the '60s with a '90s twist. Daft Punk was next and they ripped shit up! Besides playing their singles, they paid homage to the early techno and house pioneers of the late '80s. They even did covers of a Todd Terry (under the name CLS) joint and "French Kiss" by Li'l Louis. When they slowed the music down, as it does in "French Kiss," the audience went absolutely nuts. There were two people on stage flanked by rows of keyboards, and some vintage equipment as well. One of them was wearing an Atari shirt, so you know they were giving props where they were due! They were fantastic--a truly great show. Death in Vegas was trying to combine techno with rock by having an electric guitarist and electric bassist perform with a keyboardist and a turntablist. Their sound was rather unique--like an electronic jam session. However, they didn't succeed too well. I wonder what the album sounds like. The Crystal Method had the distinction of having the best light show. Fast and furious music pulsated while the stage and the entire room turned shades of green, blue, purple, red, and strobe-light white. You could hardly see the duo with all that light, but they were frantically pushing buttons and keeping the music going. A great performance. Finally, the highlight, what we'd been waiting all night for: Aphex Twin! I was lucky to be right in front. They put a couch on the stage. All we can see is a tiny grey box with a myriad of RCA cords protruding outward, but there's another box to his left that's hidden by a row of something sitting on the floor. He sits on the floor and leans on his hand while he constantly tweaks knobs and buttons on both boxes, carefully keeping an eye on both machines. Two oversized teddy/koala bears, one orange and one green, with AT's face from the latest album superimposed where the bears' faces should be come on stage after the first song and start cavorting about. Then, with his signature homemade bleeps, music no one's ever heard starts, and the bears start a mythical fight, each bear claiming victory, but ending in a draw. The bears leave, but soon afterward, one of them comes back and makes his rounds next to the front row (there are no seats, though). The audience shakes hands with the bear. Finally, after a much-too-short twenty minutes, AT gives a snide little smile to the audience, as we're screaming and jumping with applause, and leaves. I started to scream my head off for an encore, along with a few other people, but alas, there's no encore, and the audience leaves, very disappointed. I tell you, the word "ambient" takes on a whole new meaning as you hear the music, better than anything else that night, as loud as a nuclear bomb blast, making every orifice in your body vibrate as the sound becomes pure white noise. What a show! Richard D. James is so fucking cool! He demonstrates why he's the only true successor to Kraftwerk's legacy. A terrific concert altogether, and well worth the money--you had to be there. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 09:15:22 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour > and they started 5 minutes late (10:05pm) and finished early > (11:57) More accurately, they started late (10:15) and finished late (11:55), as their set was scheduled for 10:00 - 11:30. > I think this rumour about the length of their set should be placed in the bin... Not that I would believe this story myself, but it is at least consistent with the facts. The Tribal Gathering concert was originally scheduled from 10:00 - 12:00, and Universe spokesmen claimed that Kraftwerk would play at least three new tracks. Then the length of the set was cut down to 90 minutes, and they performed only one new track. So much for the facts. The rest is of course speculation. > Considering the time and expense the Tribal gatehring organisers spent > on securing Kraftwerks performance, I am very surprised they then placed > time restrictions on the length of the set, This is a good point. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:38:19 +0200 From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock Hi all!=20 =B0=B0=B0Yesterday I found this corious Italian-release -Lp. =20 =B0=B0Never seen or heard about its existence before...=20 =20 =20 =B0=B0It contains the following track-Listing=20 =B0=B0=B0 LATO A=20 =20 =20 =B0=B0 1 - Hymne 2=B440"=20 =B0=B0 2 - Movement1 10=B418"=20 =B0=B0 3 - Chariots of Fire (Titles) 3=B433"=20 =B0=B0 VANGELIS=20 =20 =20 =B0=B0 4 - Antenna (Hutter - Schneider - Schult) 3=B442"=20 =B0=B0 KRAFTWERK=20 =20 =20 =B0=B0 LATO B=20 =B0=B0 1 - Radioland (Hutter- Schneider - Schult) 5=B450"=20 =B0=B0 2 - Showroom Dummies (Hutter) 6=B408"=20 =B0=B0 3 -The hall of mirrors (Hutter- Schneider - Schult) 7=B449=20 =B0=B0 4 - Uranium (Hutter- Schneider - Schult) 1=B424"=20 =20 =20 =B0=B0-This Compilation 1989 - Su Lizenza EMI Italiana S.p.a.=20 =20 =20 =B0=B0 NON IN VENDITA=20 =B0=B0 Allegato al fascicolo n. 56 de "Il Rock" -de Agostini. Made in=20 Italy=20 =B0=B0=B0The Front and Back-Cover shows a Photo of Vangelis=20 =B0=B0and the photo from the Backcover of "Ralf and Florian".=20 =20 =20 =20 =B0=B0Is this a=20 well-known item? I bought it for a "Butterbrot".=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =B0=B0Greetings=20 =B0=B0Josef=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _________________In=20 _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcaf=E9________________=20 ______________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E.____________________=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 - - I=B4m the antenna catching your vibration...........=20 =20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:44:37 +0100 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Robotics > For those interested in robotics, Simon Godfrey reminded me of a Wired > article that may amuse you. > > In Wired magazine issue 4.07 (July 1996), Bruce Sterling details a robot > battle event held in Phoenix. There's nothing about the construction of > the robots other than a few pictures, but it's an interesting read. > > There is some related information at http://www.wired.com/4.07/srl/ Mark Pauline's Survival Research Laboratories also have their own website that you might find interesting: http://www.srl.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 13:15:00 -0100 From: Virgo/Ae Subject: Re: (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock Josef Gabler wrote: >=20 > =B0=B0=B0Yesterday I found this corious Italian-release -Lp. > =B0=B0Never seen or heard about its existence before... > =B0=B0-This Compilation 1989 - Su Lizenza EMI Italiana S.p.a. > =B0=B0 NON IN VENDITA > =B0=B0 Allegato al fascicolo n. 56 de "Il Rock" -de Agostini. Made in I= taly > =B0=B0Is this a well-known item? I bought it for a "Butterbrot". I don't think so, because you just bought a cd which was sold along with = 56th issue of "Il Rock" encyclopaedia by De Agostini (this part was probably dedicated to electronic music). BTW: "NON IN VENDITA" means "NOT FOR SALE", because you should have been = able buying it only with its issue from any Italian newspaper kiosk! :) cya. - --=20 - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -=3D< Virgo.Ae@MindlesS.CoM >=3D- - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original se= nder. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 09:20:58 -0700 From: rmknudson@juno.com (matt knudson) Subject: (kw) Laserdiscs I am looking for NTSC format laserdiscs featuring music and video by Kraftwerk. Any suggestions where I might find such items? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 17:39:54 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Robotics Jon Alsbury wrote : >Mark Pauline's Survival Research Laboratories also have their own >website >that you might find interesting: >http://www.srl.org Yes, those are well-known pictures. BTW, who used them as a video in the 80s ? Wasn'it Foetus ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 16:00:18 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) wrote: >It was an electronica event Arrrrrggghhhhh! Who the f**k invented that name, 'electronica'? Sounds like another american euphemism attack........... An BTW, I've followed Sneaker pimps for some years now, and just cos they don't have a turntable on stage does not invalidate them. DJ's should remember that there WAS life before technics! Blimey, if Roni Size & co can use a live drummer for what was in effect a totally non acoustic album, so can sneaker pimps, and WHAT THE HELL is alternative rock? Something you don't buy in K-Mart?? :-))) Couldn't agree more about Richard James though, a pure genius, maybe the only one currently in existence and still producing. >A terrific concert altogether, and well worth the money--you had to be >there > Hehe. No, you had to be over here. We see these acts regularly!!! Notable that the majority of acts in this 'festival' were British too.......peace. ciao, - ------------------------------------ Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:13:40 -0700 From: rmknudson@juno.com (matt knudson) Subject: Re: (kw) KW Video Collection Count me in to participate in the video collaboration also. I am from Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 18:25:44 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic Jules Seifert wrote : >and WHAT >THE HELL is alternative rock? Something you don't buy in K-Mart?? A few years ago, I even picked up the name "adult alternative rock" refering to some revival of 70s progressive music... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 06:33:35 PDT From: "L B" Subject: Re: (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock > NON IN VENDITA > Allegato al fascicolo n. 56 de "Il Rock" -de Agostini. Made this seem to be a record enclosed to some... how do you call them... well, sort of magazines that are supposed to be binded to form volumes that you buy every week at newstands, that seem to be always very popular in Italy... we have them about the strangest matters... as soon as they are out in the newsstands they are not worth half of their original price, in the order of some dollars, for obvious reason. as they get old, they can be more interesting. but mind that they are usually regarded as spurious and sort of intellectually cheap items. something like records that you find in tons at the second-hand departments. anyway, is it white with light blue-purple stripes? >well-known item? I bought it for a "Butterbrot". you mean very cheap? then well done! :-) - ------------ se volete rispondere per favore fatelo a questo indirizzo to answer please use this address Lbo@iol.it e' controllato molto piu' di frequente it is checked a lot more frequently grazie - thanks - ------------ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 18:24:24 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering / UK TV Werkers, There were no surprises to be had on UK TV tonight in their coverage of the Tribal Gathering. The program was mainly about the organisation of the event, and a 'personal' view from a bunch of people going to the event. Kraftwerk were heavily mentioned at the mid part of the program, and the organisers (obviously) were proud of their little 'coup' in booking them. No film however, as the they were not allowed. however, one interesting piece of info came out of it, the name of the band's UK manager!! Maybe we can look her up! ciao, - ------------------------------------ Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 14:32:02 -0400 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic >>> Arrrrrggghhhhh! Who the f**k invented that name, 'electronica'? Sounds like another american euphemism attack........... <<< Don't worry, I hate that name, too! I just couldn't think of the word "techno" when I wrote what I wrote! You lucky Brits always get the good shit (even the best US music), and appreciate it more, than most USA people! Real house music's the prime example. It was stricly illegal to bring any sort of recording device or camera, unless you were from the media, into the concert venue. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 22:24:00 +0200 From: mars.sjoestrand@stockholm.mail.telia.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering / UK TV Jules Seifert wrote: =20 > however, one interesting piece of info came out of it, the name of the > band's UK manager!! I thought that they never had one or should have one. So long.... M=E5ns # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 22:37:00 +0200 From: Tom the Javaneer Subject: Re: (kw) Karlsruhe gig - list update. At 00:31 06.09.97 +0200, you wrote: > Several seperate list updates were mailed therefore I edited them into a >new one. > >additions: please update your mail before adding your name to be sure you >add it to the latest version. > > >1 Carsten Bolte DepecheCBI@aol.com >2 Dirk Fellhauer D.Fellhauer@Fh-Worms.de >3 Roland Metzger Roland_Metzger@compuserve.com >4 Leon Mols Imols@pi.net >5 Adam (L) Read adamr@world.net >6 Dennis Berggren dennis@octoprod.se >7 Josef Gabler josefgabler@magnet.at >8 Erik Barth dbarth@xs4all.nl >9 Harald Westphal unhj@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de >10 Bas van Reeuwijk W.B.vanReeuwijk@research.kpn.com >11 Oliver Hebel olihebel@hrz1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de >12 Morten Moen mmoen@sn.no >13 Dolf Wiemer twingo@xs4all.nl >14 Judith van der Veer judithvdv@freemail.nl >15 Hil Boorsma boorsma@tn.tudelft.nl >16 Bob Smeets admosam@xs4all.nl >17 Maureen Jansen - >18 Edwin Wisse wisse@nlr.nl >19 Joerg-Stefan Sell jss@onestone.de >20 Anders Wilhelm trafo@analogue.org >21 Carl-Johan Rasch calle@ixcjr.uniweb.se >22 Ola Andersson rand@ling.umu.se >23 Anders Eriksson anderse@ling.umu.se >24 Rickard Hidefj=E4ll ma94rhi@tdb.uu.se >25 Morgan Karlsson network@analogue.org >26 Rickard Klasic rick@analogue.org >27 Conny Fornb=E4ck conny.annica@wineasy.se >28 Mats Kadmark mats.kadmark@gfs.gu.se =20 > 29 Thomas Weckert tweckert@ernie.mi.uni-koeln.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 14:46:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) CMJ electronica concert--off topic On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Jules Seifert wrote: > >It was an electronica event > > Arrrrrggghhhhh! Who the f**k invented that name, 'electronica'? What does it mean? I just encountered it for the first time two days ago. I would guess it's a blanket term for assorted electronic music? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 23:07:50 +0000 From: Christoph Soltmannowski Subject: (kw) I will be there!!! > >additions: please update your mail before adding your name to be sure yo= u >add it to the latest version. > > >1 Carsten Bolte DepecheCBI@aol.com >2 Dirk Fellhauer D.Fellhauer@Fh-Worms.de >3 Roland Metzger Roland_Metzger@compuserve.com >4 Leon Mols Imols@pi.net >5 Adam (L) Read adamr@world.net >6 Dennis Berggren dennis@octoprod.se >7 Josef Gabler josefgabler@magnet.at >8 Erik Barth dbarth@xs4all.nl >9 Harald Westphal unhj@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de >10 Bas van Reeuwijk W.B.vanReeuwijk@research.kpn.com >11 Oliver Hebel olihebel@hrz1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de >12 Morten Moen mmoen@sn.no >13 Dolf Wiemer twingo@xs4all.nl >14 Judith van der Veer judithvdv@freemail.nl >15 Hil Boorsma boorsma@tn.tudelft.nl >16 Bob Smeets admosam@xs4all.nl >17 Maureen Jansen - >18 Edwin Wisse wisse@nlr.nl >19 Joerg-Stefan Sell jss@onestone.de >20 Anders Wilhelm trafo@analogue.org >21 Carl-Johan Rasch calle@ixcjr.uniweb.se >22 Ola Andersson rand@ling.umu.se >23 Anders Eriksson anderse@ling.umu.se >24 Rickard Hidefj=E4ll ma94rhi@tdb.uu.se >25 Morgan Karlsson network@analogue.org >26 Rickard Klasic rick@analogue.org >27 Conny Fornb=E4ck conny.annica@wineasy.se >28 Mats Kadmark mats.kadmark@gfs.gu.se = 29 Thomas Weckert tweckert@ernie.mi.uni-koeln.de 30 Christoph Soltmannowski soltoc@dial.eunet.ch - -- = ______________________________ Hello everybody! I am new to the list, but Kraftwerk fan since 1978. Greatest moment: The Ralf Hutter interview I dis in London in 1991. Christoph Soltmannowski "we are showroom dummies!" http://www.innovation.ch/pbs _______________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 23:21:26 +0200 From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: Re: (kw) Vangelis & Kraftwerk / IL Rock In message ID <3412B6E4.14B90E19@MindlesS.CoM> on 07.09.97,=20 Virgo.Ae@MindlesS.CoM wrote:=20 =20 >Josef Gabler wrote:=20 >> =20 >> =B0=B0=B0Yesterday I found this curious Italian-release -Lp.=20 >> =B0=B0Never seen or heard about its existence before...=20 >=20 >> =B0=B0-This Compilation 1989 - Su Lizenza EMI Italiana S.p.a.=20 >> =B0=B0 NON IN VENDITA=20 >> =B0=B0 Allegato al fascicolo n. 56 de "Il Rock" -de Agostini. Made=20 in Italy=20 >=20 >> =B0=B0Is this a well-known item? I bought it for a "Butterbrot".=20 >=20 >I don't think so, because you just bought a cd which was sold along=20 >with 56th issue of "Il Rock" encyclopaedia by De Agostini (this=20 >part was probably dedicated to electronic music).=20 >=20 >BTW: "NON IN VENDITA" means "NOT FOR SALE", because you should have=20 >been able buying it only with its issue from any Italian newspaper=20 >kiosk! :)=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =B0=B0 Ciao =20 =20 =20 =B0=B0 Thanks for Reply and Translation.=20 =B0=B0 Obviously you missunderstood=20 =B0=B0 my message. I bought this Compilation on Lp. =20 =B0=B0 (Sorry there is no Record-Company or Catalogue-Nr. on the Cover=20 or Vinyl-Label) =20 =B0=B0 I didn=B4t know, that it also was released on Cd (same Year?). =20 =B0=B0 Would be interesting, to find the "Il Rock"-issue too.=20 =20 =B0=B0Today a=20 found a EMI-Electrola Lp-Sampler released 1976: GOLD HITS.=20 =B0=B0 On Side two between Natalie Cole, Bay City Rollers or Smokie are=20 =B0=B0 Kraftwerk with Radioaktivit=E4t. Nice meeting...=20 =20 =20 =B0=B0Gute Nacht=20 =20 =B0=B0 Josef=20 =20 =20 =20 _________________In=20 _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcaf=E9________________=20 =20 ______________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E.____________________ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 - - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk Digest V3 #136 ******************************* To subscribe to kraftwerk Digest, send the command: subscribe kraftwerk-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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