From: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com (kraftwerk Digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #167 Reply-To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Sender: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com Precedence: kraftwerk Digest Monday, October 27 1997 Volume 03 : Number 167 In this issue: (kw) new input (slightly off topic..) (kw) Flur interview Re: (kw) Flur interview Re: (kw) Mouse on Mars Re: (kw) mobile homes (fwd) Re: (kw) Re: Tour tales and photos (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler Re: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler Re: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler (kw) conrad (kw) Conrad again Re: (kw) Conrad again Re: (kw) Conrad again Re: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars (kw) Photos Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars AW: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler Re: (kw) conrad Re: (kw) Conrad again and again (kw) JBV's Conrad list Re: (kw) Kling Klang Klong! (kw) Kraftwerk involvement in La Monte Young / Marian Zazeela Benefit (kw) New member - A wlcome return (kw) New album - new info. Re: (kw) Mouse on Mars (kw) New Member - a wlcome return (kw) Tomorrows World Re: (kw) Tomorrows World Re: (kw) Mouse on Mars Re: (kw) This & That ON topic! Re: (kw) New album - new info. (kw) New KW rendered images (kw) Kraftwerk videos AW: (kw) KW in DIE WOCHE was: More Press Reviews (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the kraftwerk or kraftwerk-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:01:26 +0200 From: Oliver Subject: (kw) new input (slightly off topic..) Hy, for those, who want to listen: There is a great compilation available: "harvest in technicolor" from emi 7243 8 21539 2 4 featuring artists like: air liquide, the bionaut, burger/link, and umo In my opinion, this is great contemporary electronic music. Another recommendation: (Hy Adam, you mentioned that one before, great stuff!) Aphex Twin: "Come to Daddy" from Warp RTD 126.3383.2 Better than ever (again, my opinion) future music to listen too. I wish THEY would take some influences from those guys... couldn't be that bad.... regards Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:20:37 +0000 From: "Jose Gonzalez" Subject: (kw) Flur interview you can read the interview here: http://www.arrakis.es/~jcpsjgp/flur.html have fun. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:45:35 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Flur interview Jose Gonzalez wrote: > you can read the interview here: > > http://www.arrakis.es/~jcpsjgp/flur.html > > have fun. Okay, pleasant interview with Wolfgang, but- which Spice Bimbo is "Victoria"? And why should I care? 'Just curious.*HeeHee*. YEAH! I'm on the KRAFTWERK WebRing!*WHEEEE*! Thanx, Thomas! I'm glad your Computer is all better now. note: The articles in my K-philes are not quite up yet, but, the other pages mentioned are there. I'll add more drawings and stuff later. I've been getting some very nice Emails- Thank you all! I'm glad you enjoy having a bit of light-hearted fun with the boys! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:30:10 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Mouse on Mars thomas m weibrecht wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:49:40 +0000 jbv writes: > > > >Just listened to the MoM album. Sounds like some cheap home-made > >version of YMO (Technodelic period). > > > >jbv > > "autodidacter"? (that is the title or somethinglike that)...damn, i just > ordered it....tom w Well, that's just a personal opinion... Beware of personal opinions... Especially mine ! jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:45:39 +0200 From: joakim.dahl@eklund.se (Joakim Dahl) Subject: Re: (kw) mobile homes (fwd) > the 'Mobile Homes' song is excellent. Ooops... someone mention Mobile Homes. The Swedish group of synthpop, with execellent melody and melancholy lyric. I am almost an "expert" of The Mobile Homes. I have all records, have seen them live several times and I have good inside information. Karl Bartos is now a member of The Mobile Homes. The "latest" info about The Mobile Homes: Bartos plays guitar in TMH and have written some of the new material. A single will be in the shops in January -98 and the new album March -98. TMH have now a contract with a label in Germany. The new sound of The Mobile Homes will be a mix of Elektrik/New Order The rumors says... The Mobile Homes will be Special Guests at Stockholm Synth Festival*. the first time we can see and hear of Karl Bartos in TMH (* = a 12-hour festival with Front 242, SPOCK, And One, DAF and many more at the 1 of November) /Jocke "Sometimes I lost the lust for everything" The Mobiel Homes, Lost The Lust # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:35:24 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Tour tales and photos Future808@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks to all who are posting new web sites, photos and reviews. For those of > us stuck in the USA, these make for great reading and viewing. > > I'm stuck in a small Mid-Western city. 99% of it's population have no idea > who Kraftwerk are, and IF KW comes to the US, I'll surely have to fly > somewhere to see them. > > Anyways, thanks, and keep the info coming. > > Nat > Lawrence, KS > Actually, all the stuff about the Linz and Karlsruhe gigs and the new songs were just some fake stories to entertain you guys from the mid-west. In fact, KW never played at all. They're just lazying in the Bahamas for 10 years or so. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:29:04 +0100 From: Anders Wilhelm Subject: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler I have rediscovered Conrad Schnitzler, and wonder if there are people on the list who have got Con - recordings.=20 /aw - --=20 ********************************************************************* * Anders Wilhelm * mail:trafo@analogue.org * * N=FCklear research * http://www.cs.umu.se/~dvlawm * * Sweden * http://wilhelm.ml.org/ *=20 ********************************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:03:35 EDT From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:29:04 +0100 Anders Wilhelm writes: > >I have rediscovered Conrad Schnitzler, and wonder >if there are people on the list who have got Con - >recordings.=20 > way ahead of his time...all his classics have been re-issued on plate lunch, including "rot" and "oo/106"...contact: www.conrad-schnitzler.net4.com...and someone said prodigy was the "bleeding edge" of electronica? tom w np: schnitzler - rot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:17:50 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler thomas m weibrecht wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:29:04 +0100 Anders Wilhelm > writes: > > > >I have rediscovered Conrad Schnitzler, and wonder > >if there are people on the list who have got Con - > >recordings.=20 > > > way ahead of his time...all his classics have been re-issued on plate > lunch, including "rot" and "oo/106"...contact: > www.conrad-schnitzler.net4.com...and someone said prodigy was the > "bleeding edge" of electronica? > tom w > np: schnitzler - rot > Hey boing tschak people, please check that page : http://www.conrad-schnitzler.net4.com/rare_vinyls.html I almost had a heart attack : I have about 60% of those vinyls ! jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:34:37 -0400 (EDT) From: PRODUKT01@aol.com Subject: (kw) conrad These 2 pages also have a little interesting information if anyone's interested... http://www.halcyon.com/robinja/mythos/casscon.html http://www.southern.com/mmm/music/ambient/artists/schnitzler.html <> ooh...lucky you! I guess you've been around long enough to purchase 60% of them ...hence the collector's price!!!! But you really are lucky # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:47:43 -0400 (EDT) From: PRODUKT01@aol.com Subject: (kw) Conrad again I'm very interested in the music of Conrad Schnitzler. The releases I have of his are very few: ROT, Ballet Statique, 00/106, Electroakustische Musik (Kluster Eruption); and the 1994 manuscript 'Con-Sequence: The Conrad Schnitzler Biography & Discography'. ROT is a 1973 release consisting of Meditation and Krautrock. This has been recently released on CD for the first time on the Plate Lunch label, distributed by the Bloch Gallery in Germany. This is very groundbreaking material which surely influenced the likes of Kraftwerk & many others. The 2 tracks on this album are roughly 20 minutes each and are a combination of tightly-sequenced moog-ish basslines & free floating feedback loops with some strange drum machine patterns. Electroakustische Musik (Kluster Eruption), '71, is a totally live recording which is pretty amazing even by today's standards. It's mostly improvised noise with a very dark atmosphere. Light years ahead of his contemporaries. Again, this type of performance surely influenced Kraftwerk's early works. Ballet Statique (released on CD in 1992) is a collection of very beautiful tunes which are some of the finest, most thought-provoking electronic compositions. The title track, Black Nails, and Zug are my personal favorites. The various songs on this record are a collection over the course of an unknown number of years, probably from about 1980-92, but they all sound homogeneous. 00/106 is Conrad's latest release (1997) is one entire body of dark, moody, atmospheric sonics. From what I understand, Conrad no longer gives names to his works, only numerals. Through the course of his 30 year experiments and performance art, he has made over 100 LP and cassette performances. The titles and whereabouts of this body of work are largely unknown as far as I know. The manuscript/paperback 'Con-Sequence: The Conrad Schnitzler Biography & Discography' has a lengthy history of these recordings but does not guarantee accuracy. You can find more information at http://www.conrad-schnitzler.net4.com According to Pascal Bussy's book, Ralf & Florian are majorly influenced by Conrad, attending many of his performance in his native Dusseldorf. An interesting bit of information: I can swear I saw him; someone yelled out 'Conrad' just as this tall, bald, almost 70 yr old man dressed in black walked into the auditorium and he was signing autographs but because I didn't ask him I can't be certain. If anyone has any copies that they are willing to trade/sell of the less commercially available material I would be willing to pay. I know some of you guys on the list are gathering dust so you should be proud owners of some of this stuff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: PRODUKT01@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Conrad again http://www.ts.umu.se/~polarn-p/kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 19:49:41 -0400 (EDT) From: PRODUKT01@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Conrad again In a message dated 97-10-25 19:09:23 EDT, you write: << http://www.ts.umu.se/~polarn-p/kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html >> oops I left out the most important part about seeing or mabe seeing conrad it was at the kraftwerk show in linz ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:11:36 EDT From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:17:50 +0000 jbv writes: > >thomas m weibrecht wrote: >> >> On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:29:04 +0100 Anders Wilhelm >> writes: >> > >> >I have rediscovered Conrad Schnitzler, and wonder >> >if there are people on the list who have got Con - >> >recordings.=20 >> > >> way ahead of his time...all his classics have been re-issued on >plate >> lunch, including "rot" and "oo/106"...contact: >> www.conrad-schnitzler.net4.com...and someone said prodigy was the >> "bleeding edge" of electronica? >> tom w >> np: schnitzler - rot >> > >Hey boing tschak people, > >please check that page : >http://www.conrad-schnitzler.net4.com/rare_vinyls.html > >I almost had a heart attack : I have about 60% of those vinyls ! > >jbv > ill trade u all my prodigys (hell, ill even throw in my toxic chemicals) for one of those....tom w np: schnitzler - oo/106 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:08:33 -0400 From: l Subject: Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars > and i wasnt impressed (alot of that going around)...also, if "many" > people say an album sucks, it probably does...so why "waste" the money.? let's hope MoM don't read the list or they will stop their career... :-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:15:19 -0400 From: tadream Subject: (kw) Photos Does anyone know any links to Kraftwerk's photographs as they appear today? Thnx in advance. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:30:25 EDT From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:08:33 -0400 l writes: > >> and i wasnt impressed (alot of that going around)...also, if "many" >> people say an album sucks, it probably does...so why "waste" the >money.? > >let's hope MoM don't read the list or they will stop their career... >:-))) they can always remix full-time.... tom w np: seti - ciphers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:32:31 EDT From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:08:33 -0400 l writes: > >> and i wasnt impressed (alot of that going around)...also, if "many" >> people say an album sucks, it probably does...so why "waste" the >money.? > >let's hope MoM don't read the list or they will stop their career... >:-))) they can always remix full-time.... tom w np: seti - ciphers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:33:34 EDT From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: AW: (kw) Mouse on Mars On Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:08:33 -0400 l writes: > >> and i wasnt impressed (alot of that going around)...also, if "many" >> people say an album sucks, it probably does...so why "waste" the >money.? > >let's hope MoM don't read the list or they will stop their career... >:-))) they can always remix full-time.... tom w np: seti - ciphers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 06:48:08 +0100 From: Oliver Subject: AW: (kw) [OFF TOPIC] Conrad Schnitzler Sounds all very interersting: Does anybody have any sound probes available, in mpg3, wave or whatever format. I would like to hear some of that stuff! regards Oliver >> please check that page : > http://www.conrad-schnitzler.net4.com/rare_vinyls.html > > I almost had a heart attack : I have about 60% of those vinyls ! > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:23:43 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) conrad PRODUKT01@aol.com wrote: > < > jbv>> > > ooh...lucky you! I guess you've been around long enough to purchase 60% of > them ...hence the collector's price!!!! > > But you really are lucky > Well, actually I purchased those items straight from him about 16 years ago, and back then they were only 30,- DM or so. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:27:48 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Conrad again and again > > If anyone has any copies that they are willing to trade/sell of the less > commercially available material I would be willing to pay. I know some of you > guys on the list are gathering dust so you should be proud owners of some of > this stuff. > You know what ? I just remembered that I even have an unreleased tape by him, a pop song called "Michelangelo". jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:49:20 +0000 From: jbv Subject: (kw) JBV's Conrad list I just browsed quickly through my record collection, and here's what I found : LP Gr=FCn LP Gelb LP Consequenz LP Conal LP Conrad & Sohn LP Con 1.7.84 LP Berliner in Berlin, Sampler Maxi : auf dem Schwarzen Kanal LP Con 3 LP Control LP Micon in Italia LP Con (the original release on EGG, re-issued as Ballet Statique) but I'm not sure it's the one listed as Con on Conrad Web site LP Convex (this one is not listed on Schnitzler Web site) LP Kluster Klopfzeichen LP Kluster 2 Osterei I'm sure there must be a few more somewhere. And I know someone who = lives not far from here who also has Schwarz, Blau and Rot. Of course, I am NOT willing to trade or sell any of those. But in 1981, I made a 3 hours special about Conrad on a local radio. Perhaps someone taped the show... jbv P.S. I also found some stuff from the Shandar label, like Ragnard Grippe, Charlemagne Palestine, Terry Riley and copies from limited editions by La Monte Young. And also a few items from the electro-acoustic serie on Philips from the late 60s (with the silver sleeves). And also the 2 first LPs by NEU!, and a few Cluster LPs on Brain Rec. etc. etc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2097 00:34:55 +0100 From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (kw) Kling Klang Klong! >you bet your life some bootlegs would have surfaced. there probably IS Talking of these, I have the Sex Object demo - whcih is the othe rone? It was on a tape of mixes I bought with a remix of Electric Cafe, some dreadful rap mix of Robots and some awful 'megamixmedley' things. On a brighter note though, I did get a radiobroadcast of Japan 7-9-81... but it's only 11 tracks long.. If anyone likes the KLF btw, there is a new Cd of soundtrack work out called "Waiting For The Rites Of Mu".. I think it's a semi-legal reissue limited edition... Hmmm - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:33:06 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk involvement in La Monte Young / Marian Zazeela Benefit Found at rec.music.classical.contemporary: > There will be a benefit for La Monte Young and Marian Zazeela > at London's Barbican on October 31, 1997. [...] > Some of the illuminati who are [not] able to perform, because of prior > commitments, will be making contributions in other forms. [...] > Kraftwerk are sending some promotional artwork, [...] > Find out more about La Monte Young and Marian Zazeela, > http://www.virtulink.com/mela/main.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:49:37 PST From: "Led Belly" Subject: (kw) New member - A wlcome return Hello fellow list members. After leaving the list in 1995 I have decided it is time for me to rejoin. This is an exciting time for Kraftwerk and all Kraftwerk fans. Indeed, I was fortunate enough to see the Tribal Gathering gig at Luton earlier this year. For those new members who are not familiar with me, I will provide a short introduction. I have been a Kraftwerk fan for many years. Due to having unnamed contacts in the record industry I am able to provide reliable and informative information about the band, often well before it is widely known. In the past I have been able to divulge information about the bands activities. In my next few mails to this list I will discuss: i) The new album ii) Will the band tour next year? iii) Has the band given up on the USA? iv) Will Fleur, Bartos and Schult become involved with the band again? v) Beyond their next album? If you have any questions about Kraftwerk which are not properly answered by the mailing list please feel free to ask me. Regards to all Brian Gaze ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:52:13 PST From: "Led Belly" Subject: (kw) New album - new info. The new album The exact release date of the album can not yet be confirmed. However, it is likely to be Feb/March 1997, with a tour to follow (this may include acting as a backing band to Heaven 17). The album will be exclusively new material, not any remixes of old tracks. A cover of Numans 'Cars' may be included and pegged for release as a single. The running time of the album is likely to pitch in at 27 minutes, shorter than Computer World. The reason may be that the band does not want to unnecessarily cause noise pollution (FS has referred to this problem in the past). The album may not be released in the USA, which is now considered an unworkable market. Sorry guys, looks like imports for you. The album may go the way of TechnoPop due to uncertainties about current directions. I will release further info. Once it is available. Regards, Brian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:01:56 +0200 From: Timour Jgenti Subject: Re: (kw) Mouse on Mars thomas m weibrecht wrote: > > >Just listened to the MoM album. Sounds like some cheap home-made > >version of YMO (Technodelic period). > > > >jbv > > "autodidacter"? (that is the title or somethinglike that)...damn, i just > ordered it....tom w autoditaker, it's their last release. it's not that bad, it's even good in fact, a great sound research and really carefully made. particularity of mouse on mars is that their music goes out of mechannically sequenced rythms and so becomes a bit random and "living", a bit too chaotic for my taste. personally I can't say I like it very much, but it is worth listening. Tim PS: funny name "Mouse on Mars" BTW, fits well with the music :) - -- timour.jgenti@hol.fr ------------------- timour.jgenti@ifp.fr ------------------- http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:47:22 PST From: "Led Belly" Subject: (kw) New Member - a wlcome return Hello fellow list members. After leaving the list in 1995 I have decided it is time for me to rejoin. This is an exciting time for Kraftwerk and all Kraftwerk fans. Indeed, I was fortunate enough to see the Tribal Gathering gig at Luton earlier this year. For those new members who are not familiar with me, I will provide a short introduction. I have been a Kraftwerk fan for many years. Due to having unnamed contacts in the record industry I am able to provide reliable and informative information about the band, often well before it is widely known. In the past I have been able to divulge information about the bands activities. In my next few mails to this list I will discuss: i) The new album ii) Will the band tour next year? iii) Has the band given up on the USA? iv) Will Fleur, Bartos and Schult become involved with the band again? v) Beyond their next album? If you have any questions about Kraftwerk which are not properly answered by the mailing list please feel free to ask me. Regards to all Brian Gaze ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:15:05 -0800 From: **************** Subject: (kw) Tomorrows World I was recently told that Kraftwerk appeared on 'Tomorrows World' the UK = light entertainment science TV programme during 'The Mix' tour. Is this = true? If so does anyone know where I can obtain a video of this (if it = is worth seeing).=20 PS: what videos are available of Kraftwerk appearing on TV shows, = performing and doing interviews. Is there anything particularly worth = seeing? Mode.123 (A Lifelong Depeche Mode Fan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:10:28 -0000 From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: Re: (kw) Tomorrows World >-----Original Message----- >From: **************** >To: kraftwerk@xmission.com >Date: 26 October 1997 20:24 >Subject: (kw) Tomorrows World >I was recently told that Kraftwerk appeared on 'Tomorrows World' the UK light entertainment science TV >programme during 'The Mix' tour. Is this true? If so does anyone know where I can obtain a video of this (if it is >worth seeing). Yeah, I remember. They had the robots in the studio, which "danced" a bit. Could have only lasted a minute. Cheers Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:49:47 +0900 From: Hiroshi MURATA Subject: Re: (kw) Mouse on Mars Hey 'Werkers, Am Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:01:56 +0200, schreibt Timour Jgenti, > autoditaker, it's their last release. it's not that bad, it's even good > in fact, a great sound research and really carefully made. particularity > of mouse on mars is that their music goes out of mechannically sequenced > rythms and so becomes a bit random and "living", a bit too chaotic for > my taste. personally I can't say I like it very much, but it is worth > listening. "Autoditacker" is their first album introduced to Japan. "Vulvaland" and "Iaora tahiti" are not available yet. :-( I had to ask my German friend to send me the copies. Don't forget Wolfgang Fluer once appeared in "Iaora Tahiti" and the members of MoM appeared in YAMO's "Time Pie". ;-) > PS: funny name "Mouse on Mars" BTW, fits well with the music :) Agreed. 8-) p.s. Where is the plan that MoM visit Japan? 8-) ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo, Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:36:22 -0500 (EST) From: ManMachn2@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) This & That ON topic! In a message dated 10/24/97 3:28:08 AM, you wrote: > > >Second: It is NOT possible to make the same songs even with the right (and > >VERY rare) equipment, 'cos none of you are Huetter or Schneider. Even if you > >had the gear you would not be able to create the very unique ambience from > >KW - 'cos they don't use conventional methods of creating sounds. And THATS > >why they sound like they do! > >It is of need to have a very special feeling for what you are doing or else > >the result will sound bloodless. Just to give an example: Everybody around > >me reacts to what I'm doing - If I'm having a load of fun while producing - > >It shows in the music! > >If I'm bored - Well... > >So my impression is: Anybody telling me that he/she can do what KW is doing > >on a homekeyboard in x hours probably thinks that a Soundblaster General > >Midi-file sounds fantastic...Fucking Bullshit!!! Wrong. It's relative. SoundBlaster does sound "brilliant" if the song you are working on calls for the sound of SoundBlaster. If you're trying to emulate a piano perfectly well.........obviously And - have you ever listened to Kraftwerk? most of the gear that they use is NOT "very rare..." Is a minimoog rare? Is a Polymoog rare? is an arp odyssey rare? No. A vako orchestron - yes (although I found mine after about an hour of searching on the web....) But much of the "rarety" of the instruments is engineered modification - more memory, CV routing switches, an engineered drum machine etc etc.....The Synclavier they used was only rare in the fact that it was $50,000+ abd purchaseable direct from the distributor only......Also - please realize that KW use some of the most basic analog synthesis sounds anywhere - a non-filtered pulse wave bass etc - c'mon - i can get that on any synth in 10 seconds flat - the brilliance is *how* they used it in a minimal pop fashion.....most of the sounds themselves are not groundbraking. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:54:49 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) New album - new info. Sounds like the new album (how that seems to be more of a myth with each passing day!) will actually be an EP, eh? Too bad--especially with lack of US support! Has anyone had luck contacting Sylvia Rhone (Elektra's president/CEO) yet? Who exactly is Conrad (forgotten his last name)? And, while I remember, Cleopatra Records, one of the worst labels in the history of music, has done one good thing worth noting: somehow they made a deal with the legendary Chicago label Trax Records, and they released a 3-CD box called "Chicago Trax," of many classic house-music jams, recently. The price is right, too: it's on sale now at Tower Records for a mere $18.99! The sound's terrific as well; I heard it on one of their listening stations. Sorry, just one more off-topic query: what machine produced that great tinkly fake piano sound used in many of the earlier house-music joints on DJ International Records? Thanks in advance. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 21:10:35 PST From: "Pete Liethen" Subject: (kw) New KW rendered images Hello all list members, I just updated the Kraftwekr Media Center with some rendered 3D images. Very nice in my own opinion. Check them out. The URL is http://www.dragonfire.net/~petenet/kraftwerk Peter Liethen pliethen@globaldialog.com http://www.dragonfire.net/~petenet ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 03:02:37 -0500 From: tadream Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk videos In one of the last messages I found one with a link to Kraftwerk's videos (The Robots, Trans Europe Express and some other ones) Whoever was the sender of that message could you please repeat that link again? Thnx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:32:10 +0100 From: Andreas Schepers Subject: AW: (kw) KW in DIE WOCHE was: More Press Reviews 3 concerts 1997: tribal gathering linz karlsruhe regards, andreas - ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH Information Design Schubertstraße 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Marko Schmidt [SMTP:M.SCHMIDT@top.east.de] Gesendet am: Samstag, 25. Oktober 1997 16:24 An: Andreas Schepers Betreff: Re: (kw) KW in DIE WOCHE was: More Press Reviews Hallo Andreas, AS> AS> after having read all these press-articles and postings, i think carsten AS> is right. those 3 concerts this year have been just a test for a real tour 3 Konzerte? AS> in 1998. i am looking forward to a kw-performance in a better AS> concert-arena and a better audience that also dances and gets more AS> excited.... Wann soll denn noch ein 3 Konzert sein? - -- Mit elektrischen Grüßen,· Marko· GermanKraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage: www.mdis.de/privat/kraftwerk/ # # ##### ##### ##### ##### # # ##### ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ### #### ##### #### # # # # ### #### ### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:22:08 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Weckert Subject: (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats sorry, only for the germans: the "stadtwerke d"usseldorf" released an excellent book about d"usseldorf's music scene and features all bands from d"usseldorf such as kraftwerk, la d"usseldorf, neu!, die krupps, mouse on mars, yamo, krombacher mc etc. etc. etc. i can heartly recommend it to anybody who is interested in d"usseldorf's music scene, the book opens with kraftwerk, but they didn't support this book, so michael rother of neu! did the kraftwerk stuff (around 2 or 3 pages, if i remember right). the book is available via a web page, and in all book shops in d"usseldorf: http://www.swd-ag.de/service/enrgshop.htm thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk Digest V3 #167 ******************************* To subscribe to kraftwerk Digest, send the command: subscribe kraftwerk-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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