From: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-bookshelf-digest) To: lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #928 Reply-To: lds-bookshelf Sender: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-bookshelf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-bookshelf-digest Thursday, August 2 2001 Volume 01 : Number 928 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 23:40:22 EDT From: BJRom@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Two Questions - --part1_bd.10772a46.287298a6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, I have not looked at the e-bay posting, but your description sounds like the rebound editions produced by Brigham Book in Provo a few years ago. I know that Signature did not prepare any _Origins of Power_ in leather. Quinn had one copy of _Extensions of Power_ prepared in leather that he later sold. Any other leathers are simply rebound versions. Brian Romriell In a message dated 7/2/2001 9:10:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, medlund@ucla.edu writes: > > 1) I was poking around e-bay and saw Quinn's Hierarchy series. These > were bound in leather, and ten sets were done. Did Signature do this, or > has the craze for leather bound books become so great that individuals buy > books, re-bind them, and call them a "Limited Edition"? > - --part1_bd.10772a46.287298a6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark,

I have not looked at the e-bay posting, but your description sounds like the
rebound editions produced by Brigham Book in Provo a few years ago. I know
that Signature did not prepare any _Origins of Power_ in leather. Quinn had
one copy of _Extensions of Power_ prepared in leather that he later sold. Any
other leathers are simply rebound versions.

Brian Romriell

In a message dated 7/2/2001 9:10:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
medlund@ucla.edu writes:

1) I was poking around e-bay and saw Quinn's Hierarchy series. These
were bound in leather, and ten sets were done. Did Signature do this, or
has the craze for leather bound books become so great that individuals buy
books, re-bind them, and call them a "Limited Edition"?

- --part1_bd.10772a46.287298a6_boundary-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 21:28:08 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Two Questions Dunno about the Mountain Man series but many copies of Volume VIII of News of the Plains and Rockies had the label shifted to the right, in some cases around the corner of the binding. I called and found that about 90% of the copies suffered in varying degrees from this malady. I was able to get them to ship me two good copies as replacements. If you have this problem, you might give AHC a call and see if they have any good ones left. According to Shiela, the bindery was at fault but as of my last conversation no remedy was in the works. Keith At 08:10 PM 7/2/01 -0700, Mark Edlund wrote: >1) I was poking around e-bay and saw Quinn's Hierarchy series. These >were bound in leather, and ten sets were done. Did Signature do this, or >has the craze for leather bound books become so great that individuals buy >books, re-bind them, and call them a "Limited Edition"? > >2) I received Volume III of AH Clark's re-print of the Mountain Man >series. The table of contents (actually the recto of the table of >contents, but not the verso) was before the title page. Was it this wya >on all sets? > >Mark Edlund > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------- >- LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books >- To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with >- "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. >- For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:04:00 -0700 From: "Phil" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Spine repair This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C103F2.EB6DDFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently acquired a book that has a "bumbed" spine on the upper left = corner. Is there any way to correct the problem other than trying to = manipulate it by hand? The book is in excellent condition other than = the bent corner of the spine and for me is a valuable addition to my = library. I intend to keep the book for years. =20 Thanks, Phil - ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C103F2.EB6DDFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I recently acquired a book that has a "bumbed" = spine on=20 the upper left corner. Is there any way to correct the problem = other than=20 trying to manipulate it by hand? The book is in excellent = condition other=20 than the bent corner of the spine and for me is a valuable addition to = my=20 library. I intend to keep the book for years. =

Thanks,

Phil

- ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C103F2.EB6DDFE0-- - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:30:45 EDT From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Spine repair In a message dated 07/03/2001 10:02:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pbradford@earthlink.net writes: << I recently acquired a book that has a "bumbed" spine on the upper left corner. Is there any way to correct the problem other than trying to manipulate it by hand? >> Ummmm - perhaps turn its other cheek? Sorry, RickBook - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 22:27:21 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Spine repair I don't know if this will work with your spine but with bumped corners, Hugh taught me to use an insulin needle to inject PBA (glue) into the bumped corner then use a press to hold it straight while it dries. At 07:04 PM 7/3/01 -0700, you wrote: >I recently acquired a book that has a "bumbed" spine on the upper left >corner. Is there any way to correct the problem other than trying to >manipulate it by hand? The book is in excellent condition other than the >bent corner of the spine and for me is a valuable addition to my >library. I intend to keep the book for years. > >Thanks, > >Phil - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:57:59 -0700 From: "Phil" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Spine repair I am not ready to give my book an injection without someone supervising! And I am not sure what you mean by a press. Are there book presses expressly designed for this procedure? Living in southern CA, I wonder if it wouldn't be advantageous to find someone in the area qualified to do book repairs. Any suggestions for the LA area? Phil who wishes all a great 4th of July. > I don't know if this will work with your spine but with bumped corners, > Hugh taught me to use an insulin needle to inject PBA (glue) into the > bumped corner then use a press to hold it straight while it dries. > > At 07:04 PM 7/3/01 -0700, you wrote: > >I recently acquired a book that has a "bumped" spine on the upper left > >corner. Is there any way to correct the problem other than trying to > >manipulate it by hand? The book is in excellent condition other than the > >bent corner of the spine and for me is a valuable addition to my > >library. I intend to keep the book for years. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Phil > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 13:26:27 EDT From: RickBook@aol.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Happy Fourth of July A Fourth of July e-mail for family, friends & customers, copied from page 55 of Charles Sumner's book, PROPHETIC VOICES CONCERNING AMERICA (Boston, 1874). Enjoy! Rick Grunder [transcribed selection begins:] The Declaration of Independence bears date 4th July, 1776, for on that day it was signed; but the vote which determined it was on 2d July. On the 3d July, John Adams, in a letter to his wife, wrote: - "Yesterday the greatest question was decided which ever was debated in America, and a greater, perhaps, never was nor will be decided among men. . . . . I am surprised at the suddenness as well as greatness of this revolution. Britain has been filled with folly, and America with wisdom. At least this is my judgment. Time must determine. It is the will of Heaven that the two countries should be sundered forever. . . . . The day is past. The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epocha [sic] in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward, forevermore. You will think me transported with enthusiasm, but I am not. I am well aware of the toil and blood and treasure that it will cost us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. Yet, through all the gloom, I can see the ray of ravishing light and glory; and that posterity will triumph in that day's transaction, even although we should rue it, which I trust in God we shall not." [citing Works, Vol. I. pp. 230, 232.] [end of transcribed selection] - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 15:53:35 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Vindex Friends, I recently picked up a four page reply to Penrose's pamphlet on the Mountain Meadows Massacre. It was written by "Vindex." I've heard speculation that Vindex was Robert Baskin. Will Bagley suggested it might have been William Nelson, the U.S. Marshall at John D. Lee's second trial & execution. Has anyone read anything about this or heard other speculation about the identity of Vindex? Keith - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 20:25:11 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Fwd: BOUNCE Non-member submission from [] I think this bounced message is from Steve Eccles using a new address: Keith >From: >To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com >CC: >Subject: Peter Burnett >Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 20:49:10 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Message-Id: <20010709014910.HXEA6366836.mtapop2.verizon.net@[192.168.129.135]> > >Keith put me on to a book by Peter Burnett called Recollections & >Rememberances of an Old Pioneer. > >Burnett was an attorney who defended Joseph Smith in Missouri, and later >became the first governor of California. > >I just ran across this item: > >urnett, Peter H.: THE AMERICAN THEORY OF GOVERNMENT CONSIDERED WITH >REFERENCE TO THE PRE >1861. Burnett, Peter H.: THE AMERICAN THEORY OF GOVERNMENT CONSIDERED WITH >REFERENCE TO THE PRESENT CRISIS. New York: D. Appleton & Co. 1861. 93pp, >dbd. Light institutional stamp, Very Good. A pro-Union constitutional >treatise, arguing that the benefits of the Union are so great, and the >evils of State Sovereignty so manifest, having caused the Civil War, that >the Constitution should be amended: "The States should be strictly >subordinate corporations, and only permitted to exercise such powers as >may be allowed by Congress." The president should be elected for a single >twenty-year term. Other imaginative proposals, reflecting the sense of >desperation induced by the Crisis, are elaborated. FIRST EDITION. LCP >1835. Sabin 9382. Not in Nevins, Harv. Law Cat. $125. Book # 11517 > > >Can you imagine 20 years of Clinton?? Carter?? or an President for that >matter?? > >Curious ideas. > >--Steve - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:53:17 -0700 From: "Craig Smith" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] History of Brigham Young I recently saw a copy of "History of Brigham Young" edited by Knecht and Crawley for $750. The dealer, from a good source (Peter Crawley?), said only 75 copies of the cloth edition were made. Only a handful of leather copies were bound. The book is in typescript and bound in a library binding. Why has this significant book not been reprinted, especially since the early editions were so limited? Will it be reprinted as soon as I put the money down for this copy? Craig Smith - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:21:27 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] History of Brigham Young Some guys have all the luck. I've been looking for a copy of this book for years with no success. I haven't heard of any plans to reprint. Perhaps Brian knows more? Keith At 05:53 PM 7/10/01 -0700, you wrote: >I recently saw a copy of "History of Brigham Young" edited by Knecht and >Crawley for $750. The dealer, from a good source (Peter Crawley?), said >only 75 copies of the cloth edition were made. Only a handful of leather >copies were bound. The book is in typescript and bound in a library >binding. Why has this significant book not been reprinted, especially since >the early editions were so limited? Will it be reprinted as soon as I put >the money down for this copy? > >Craig Smith > > >---------------------------------------------------------- >- LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books >- To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with >- "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. >- For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:43:54 -0600 From: John Hatch Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] History of Brigham Young > Why has this significant book not been reprinted, especially since > the early editions were so limited? Will it be reprinted as soon as I put > the money down for this copy? > > I have heard of no plans to reprint it. That probably isn't too comforting, since what I don't know could fill a warehouse. I know all the major publishers have no plans to do so. Kofford Books was really interested in reprinting a lot of hard to find items and had even mentioned this book at one point. But from what I understand, Kofford Books is now on "hiatus". I have no idea if Greg plans to continue in publishing or not. He had some great ideas, so I hope it works out for him. I think you're pretty safe in buying it. If someone does reprint it, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a cheap copy in wrappers. John - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:56:49 -0700 From: "Craig Smith" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] auction quote This is a quote I just read on Deseret Book Auctions "the pages are clean except for the previous owner's red pen underlining markings. There is a moderate amount of this underlining and it is obvious that a ruler and a red pen were his tools of choice (the lines are very straight)" I always wanted a book with straight red lines. Craig Smith - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:35:38 -0600 From: "Morgan Adair" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Early Utah Furniture Anyone have this book? Early Utah Furniture Connie Morningstar Utah State University Press 1976 I'm converting my book database to Readerware, which indexes by ISBN. This = book is on my want list, so I have a record for it in the database. = According to Amazon, the ISBN for this book is 0-87421-088-7, but that's = the ISBN for The Gentile Comes to Cache Valley A.J. Simmonds Utah State University Press 1976 At least that's what it says on the title page. If someone out there has a = copy of _Early Utah Furniture_, could you check the ISBN on it for me? Thanks, MBA - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:40:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Talks on books at Sunstone I was looking at the Sunstone program and noted that twoo Bookshelf members will be giving talks that might interest some of you. Curt Bench is giving session number 163, "Seek ye out of the best books: A retrospective look at the fascinating world of Mormon Books". Brian Romriell will be giving the paper "Mormon publishing in the 1990's: From the silly to the sublime" (session 255). I think I know some of the silly part, and am anxious to know of the sublime. Further, Morgan Adair is a panelist on "Lucy's Book: A critical edition of Lucy Mack Smith's Family Memoir. I read over the program quickly, so if I missed anyone, please accept my apologies. I plan to be in attendance. If others are going and want to get together for lunch or dinner let me know. Mark Edlund - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:21:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Oh no, did I forget one? John P. Hatch will be speaking on 'Why I no longer trust Farms Review of Books" at Sunstone. Is this our John Hatch? Mark Edlund - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:43:17 GMT From: "jphatch" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Re: Oh no, did I forget one? > John P. Hatch will be speaking on 'Why I no longer trust Farms Review > of Books" at Sunstone. Is this our John Hatch? We are one in the same. Thanks for posting it, I'm worried I'll be speaking to an empty room :) There really looks like there are some great sessions with books. Another is Author meets Critic with the authors of "Evolution and Mormonism: A Quest for Understanding." Can't wait! John - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:39:28 -0700 From: Keith Irwin Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Sunstone Symposium My schedule changed and I'm now going to be able to go to Sunstone week after next. I'll be introducing Brian Romriell's session (which should be a mandatory session for Bookshelfers.) Sorry I missed the MHA bookshelf convocation but perhaps I can meet a few of you in person this time around. Keith - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 00:06:13 -0600 From: "Morgan Adair" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Sunstone Symposium >>> irwinkw@earthlink.net 07/28/01 10:39PM >>> >My schedule changed and I'm now going to be able to go to Sunstone = week=20 >after next. I'll be introducing Brian Romriell's session (which should = be=20 >a mandatory session for Bookshelfers.) Sorry I missed the MHA = bookshelf=20 >convocation but perhaps I can meet a few of you in person this time = around. I'll be there. I'm on a panel for an "author meets critics" session with = Lavina Fielding Anderson, discussing _Lucy's Book_. MBA - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:40:51 -0400 From: Cahoon_Doug@emc.com Subject: RE: [LDS-Bookshelf] Sunstone Symposium And I will be at the door taking tickets - so don't try to sneak in! :^) - --Doug - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Irwin [mailto:irwinkw@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:39 PM To: lds-bookshelf@lists.xmission.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Sunstone Symposium My schedule changed and I'm now going to be able to go to Sunstone week after next. I'll be introducing Brian Romriell's session (which should be a mandatory session for Bookshelfers.) Sorry I missed the MHA bookshelf convocation but perhaps I can meet a few of you in person this time around. Keith - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:20:16 -0400 From: Cahoon_Doug@emc.com Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] Kirtland Council Minute Book About 5 years ago, Fred Collier published a little book titled _Kirtland Council Minute Book_. I am wondering where else this book has been published before. Anyone heard if it has checked it with the "original?" Where is the original? Church Archives? I noticed that it was limited to 500 copies. - --Doug - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" Subject: [LDS-Bookshelf] A question re ebay Although I have never bought or sold anything on ebay, I occassionally browse around there. One interesting part of it is that you can write comments about the seller from the people that have bought from him or her, or comments from people who have sold to a person. What strikes me is that this comments are overwhelmingly positive. In fact, negative comments are almost non-existent. Why is this? It could be that everyone on the list is a very informed buyer or seller and is highly ethical. However, I have heard many stories (and read many descriptions of poorly described items) that lead me to believe this is not true. So what is the reason for the rarity of negative comments and the abundance of positive comments? One other question I have: Why do sellers and buyers not use their real names? Mark Edlund - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:09:52 -0400 From: Frank Marotta Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] A question re ebay One reason for the lack of negative feedback is fear of retaliation. I have only left negative feedback twice (in over 1000 transactions); in both cases there was gross negligence on the part of the other party. There have been about a 20 more that have been borderline where negative feedback was justified but I did not leave it. Over 80 per cent of my dealings on ebay have been positive or very positive; about 15-18 per cent neutral (although I have not left neutral feedback); about 2 per cent negative. Frank Marotta On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" writes: > Although I have never bought or sold anything on ebay, I > occassionally > browse around there. One interesting part of it is that you can > write > comments about the seller from the people that have bought from him > or > her, or comments from people who have sold to a person. What > strikes me > is that this comments are overwhelmingly positive. In fact, > negative > comments are almost non-existent. Why is this? It could be that > everyone > on the list is a very informed buyer or seller and is highly > ethical. > However, I have heard many stories (and read many descriptions of > poorly > described items) that lead me to believe this is not true. So what > is the > reason for the rarity of negative comments and the abundance of > positive > comments? > > One other question I have: Why do sellers and buyers not use their > real > names? > > Mark Edlund > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] A question re ebay Frank, I don't understand how they would retaliate. Mark Edlund On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Frank Marotta wrote: > One reason for the lack of negative feedback is fear of retaliation. > > I have only left negative feedback twice (in over 1000 transactions); in > both cases there was gross negligence on the part of the other party. > There have been about a 20 more that have been borderline where negative > feedback was justified but I did not leave it. Over 80 per cent of my > dealings on ebay have been positive or very positive; about 15-18 per > cent neutral (although I have not left neutral feedback); about 2 per > cent negative. > > Frank Marotta > > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" > writes: > > Although I have never bought or sold anything on ebay, I > > occassionally > > browse around there. One interesting part of it is that you can > > write > > comments about the seller from the people that have bought from him > > or > > her, or comments from people who have sold to a person. What > > strikes me > > is that this comments are overwhelmingly positive. In fact, > > negative > > comments are almost non-existent. Why is this? It could be that > > everyone > > on the list is a very informed buyer or seller and is highly > > ethical. > > However, I have heard many stories (and read many descriptions of > > poorly > > described items) that lead me to believe this is not true. So what > > is the > > reason for the rarity of negative comments and the abundance of > > positive > > comments? > > > > One other question I have: Why do sellers and buyers not use their > > real > > names? > > > > Mark Edlund > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > > body. > > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:45:34 -0400 From: Frank Marotta Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] A question re ebay I should have stated it more clearly; retaliation via returning negative feedback. Frank Marotta On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:38:40 -0700 (PDT) "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" writes: > Frank, > I don't understand how they would retaliate. > > Mark Edlund > > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Frank Marotta wrote: > > > One reason for the lack of negative feedback is fear of > retaliation. > > > > I have only left negative feedback twice (in over 1000 > transactions); in > > both cases there was gross negligence on the part of the other > party. > > There have been about a 20 more that have been borderline where > negative > > feedback was justified but I did not leave it. Over 80 per cent > of my > > dealings on ebay have been positive or very positive; about 15-18 > per > > cent neutral (although I have not left neutral feedback); about 2 > per > > cent negative. > > > > Frank Marotta > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) "EDLUND,MARK JAMES" > > writes: > > > Although I have never bought or sold anything on ebay, I > > > occassionally > > > browse around there. One interesting part of it is that you can > > > > write > > > comments about the seller from the people that have bought from > him > > > or > > > her, or comments from people who have sold to a person. What > > > strikes me > > > is that this comments are overwhelmingly positive. In fact, > > > negative > > > comments are almost non-existent. Why is this? It could be > that > > > everyone > > > on the list is a very informed buyer or seller and is highly > > > ethical. > > > However, I have heard many stories (and read many descriptions > of > > > poorly > > > described items) that lead me to believe this is not true. So > what > > > is the > > > reason for the rarity of negative comments and the abundance of > > > positive > > > comments? > > > > > > One other question I have: Why do sellers and buyers not use > their > > > real > > > names? > > > > > > Mark Edlund > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > > > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > > > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > > > body. > > > - For assistance, mail to > "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message > body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 21:44:11 -0600 From: Brian Irwin Subject: Re: [LDS-Bookshelf] Kirtland Council Minute Book Doug, The Kirtland Council Minute Book was published electronically on the New Mormon Studies CD-ROM. I got a copy of Lyndon Cook's typescript several years ago. I am pretty sure that his typescript is the source of both Collier's printed edition, and the electronic edition. He is also the source of the typescript of the Minutes of the High Council of the Church of Jesus Christ of Nauvoo Illinois, which is also on the New Mormon Studies CD. The originals of both of these documents are in the Church archives. Brian Irwin On Wednesday, August 1, 2001, at 04:20 PM, Cahoon_Doug@emc.com wrote: > About 5 years ago, Fred Collier published a little book titled _Kirtland > Council Minute Book_. I am wondering where else this book has been > published > before. Anyone heard if it has checked it with the "original?" Where is > the > original? Church Archives? I noticed that it was limited to 500 copies. > > --Doug > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books > - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with > - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. > - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" > - ---------------------------------------------------------- - - LDS-Bookshelf, information and discussion of LDS books - - To unsubscribe, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with - - "unsubscribe lds-bookshelf" (without quotes) in the message body. - - For assistance, mail to "lds-bookshelf-owner@lists.xmission.com" ------------------------------ End of lds-bookshelf-digest V1 #928 ***********************************