From: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-yw-digest) To: lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-yw-digest V1 #4 Reply-To: lds-yw-digest Sender: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-yw-digest Monday, April 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:51:44 -0500 From: families--are--forever@juno.com (Sheryl L. Jones) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) The BIG Picture... It is interesting to me that the MAJORITY of people are not complaining about the me too's, or thank-yous. After all, I would much rather read those than a message like the one that I am responding to. I would much rather hit the delete key on one of those types than to save a message like this one to send it to my friends to show them how rude some people can be on a list that is supposed to be upbeat and inspiring. I guess if it bothers you this much maybe you should be on the digest list where all of the me too's would be on one message. Sheryl -- families--are--forever@juno.com On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:06:20 -0700 Brandon & Shiela Lee writes: >Ok, I think somewhere along the line we are missing the big >picture...so, being the rude, crude, thoughtless and tactless >individual >that I am I am just going to blurt it out.... > >STOP SAYING THANK YOU TO INDIVIDUALS OVER THE LIST!!!! PLEASE BE >THOUGHTFUL ENOUGH OF OTHERS TO TAKE THE EXTRA 20 SECONDS IT TAKES TO >SEND A PRIVATE MESSAGE. > >ALSO, (since I am on such a roll) IF YOU HAVE INFO THAT YOU "THINK" >OTHERS MIGHT ENJOY...JUST POST IT!!! THUS AVOIDING THE "ME TOO"'S AND >THE "I'D LIKE A COPY"'S. > >I enjoy this list so much, but as others have mentioned lately, the >unnecessary mail is getting a little bothersome. Please don't post >your >private mail (or mail that should be private) to the entire list...I >am >sure that I am not the only person who had more than 40 mailings >waiting >for me this morning...22 of them being things that were not of any use >to me like the "thank you"'s, "me too"'s, etc. > >I hope this doesn't offend anyone...I can't see how it could be any >more >offensive then having to spend 10-15 minutes a day of my time deleting >mail that was thoughtlessly posted to the entire list. > >Hope we're still friends! >Shiela >brashie@ior.com > > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:02:50 EDT From: AndreasonN Subject: Re: (lds-yw) The BIG Picture... Sheryl, I agree with you. Judy in SLC - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:08:18 -0700 From: maclin@juno.com (JOHN L MCCLEVE) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) camp awards There was an excellent article in the June 1992 Ensign called Girls' Camp "Pranks". It is on pg. 65. It is a story of positive prank program. Really good. If any of you can't find itand are interested, let me know, and I'll type it in. ~ Laura maclin@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:51:02 -0700 From: maclin@juno.com (JOHN L MCCLEVE) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) YW Secretary Last August I prepared a list of some things that Ward YW Secretaries could do. Remember though, these are only suggestions and ideas. You don't have to do them all. I can certainly understand your feelings. I think a lot of Secretaries can. It can be a very thankless job but ~ it can sure be a lot of fun too! : ) I hope this can help you out! Also to the Presidents ~ you could help too by letting your secretaries know what it is that you expect of them and also let them know that they are needed! : ) Delegate, Delegate, Delegate! A sign of a GOOD leader! SECRETARY RESPONSIBILITIES ©Make the President and Presidency look good! ©You are required to remember EVERYTHING!! ©Take SOME initiative - You don’t have to be commanded in ALL things! ©Know & love EVERY Young Woman! Know where they live. ©Pray for your President and Presidency every day. Keep Records - Minutes ~ ©Accuracy!! ©Detailed - it sure helps you to remember! ©Have copies made for President and counselors. ©Update YW lists when changes are made & send a copy of them to the Stake YW secretary. ©Have a copy of Personal Progress records of each YW. ©Schedule & Record Bishop’s interviews with each YW. Make sure they are happening! Publicity ~ ©Calendars ©Phone calls ©Ward bulletins ©Posters ©Invitations - Reminders ©YW weekly bulletin ©Flyers ©BE CREATIVE!!! ©Ward newsletters ©Bishop’s Announcements in Sacrament meeting - make it brief. ©Make sure PARENTS are aware of the Young Women activities. They will attend more often. ©Remember Special Occasions ©Birthdays - make cards & a gift. ©Special School Events - calendars, bulletins & announcements. ©Awards or recognition Young Women received outside of church - bulletins, newsletters & announcements. ©Holidays - Christmas, Easter, Valentines Day, Thanksgiving etc. ©Welcome new girls into Young Women. ~ Laura Stake YW Secretary - Snowflake AZ maclin@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:21:25 -0700 From: maclin@juno.com (JOHN L MCCLEVE) Subject: (lds-yw) Choice Each person has a choice in life; they may approach it as a creator or critic, a lover or a hater, a giver or a taker. -Unknown _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:00:13 -0700 From: maclin@juno.com (JOHN L MCCLEVE) Subject: (lds-yw) A Mother's Gift I thought some of you would enjoy this. Laura from Snowflake, AZ maclin@juno.com - --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- ~THE JOURNEY~ The young mother set her foot on the path of life. " Is this the long way?" she asked. And her guide said: "Yes, and the way is hard. And you will be old before you reach the end of it. But the end will be better than the beginning". But the young mother was happy, and she would not believe that anything could be better than these years. So she played with her children, and gathered flowers for them along the way, and bathed them in the clear streams; and the sun shone on them, and the young Mother cried, "Nothing will ever be lovelier than this". Then the night came, and the storm, and the path was dark, and the children shook with fear and cold, and the mother drew them close and covered them with her mantle, and the children said, "Mother, we are not afraid, for you are near, and no harm can come". And the morning came, and there was a hill ahead, and the children climbed and grew weary, and the mother was weary, But at all times she said to the children, "A little patience and we are there." So the children climbed, and when they reached the top they said, " Mother, we would not have done it without you." And the mother, when she lay down at night looked up at the stars and said," This is a better day than the last, for my children have learned fortitude in the face of hardness. Yesterday I gave them courage. Today I have given them strength." And the next day came strange clouds which darkened the earth --- clouds of war and hate and evil, and the children groped and stumbled, and the mother said: "Look up. Lift your eyes to the light". And the children looked and saw above the clouds an everlasting glory, and it guided them beyond the darkness. And that night the Mother said," This is the best day of all, for I have shown my children God." And the days went on, and the weeks and the months and the years, and the mother grew old., and she was little and bent. But her children were tall and strong, and walked with courage. And when the way was rough, they lifted her, for she was as light as a feather; and at last they came to a hill, and beyond they could see a shining road and golden gates flung wide. And mother said: "I have reached the end of my journey. And now I know the end is better than the beginning, for my children can walk alone, and their children after them." And the children said," You will always walk with us, Mother, even when you have gone through the gates." And they stood and watched her as she went on alone, and the gates closed after her. And they said: "We cannot see her, but she is with us still. A Mother like ours is more than a memory. She is a living presence." _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - --part1_892908857_boundary-- - --part0_892908857_boundary-- - --------- End forwarded message ---------- - --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:49:52 EDT From: LDMcEwen Subject: (lds-yw) Just a thought Mosiah 18 vs.21 - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:32:21 -0700 From: Judy Sumsion Subject: (lds-yw) church sites you might enjoy http://www.mormons.org/ywc/index.htm -- Young Women's Corner Home Page http://www.ldsyouth.com/html/nav2.html -- LDSyouth.com: Page Options http://www.ldschurch.net/s/danville/sr1/ -- San Ramon 1st Ward http://www.wnetc.com/scripture-l/lds.lists.html -- LDS Mailing Lists http://www.ldschurch.net/s/danville/sr1/yw.html -- San Ramon 1st Ward Young Women http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5559/index.html -- Page for Young Women http://www.enol.com/~infobase/ -- The LDS Info Base I was just sent these and am excited to check them out! - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:22:39 -0500 From: families--are--forever@juno.com (Sheryl L. Jones) Subject: (lds-yw) Baby Shower Games This thursday night we are throwing a shower for the YW president in my ward. I would love game ideas from all of you. I love giving showers, but really need some new games. Please respond ASAP to my personal email address. Sheryl in Minnesota Families--are--Forever@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:13:22 -0700 From: "Dave Morris" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) The BIG Picture... You guys are funny! - ---------- > From: Sheryl L. Jones > To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (lds-yw) The BIG Picture... > Date: Monday, April 20, 1998 1:51 PM > > It is interesting to me that the MAJORITY of people are not complaining > about the me too's, or thank-yous. After all, I would much rather read > those than a message like the one that I am responding to. I would much > rather hit the delete key on one of those types than to save a message > like this one to send it to my friends to show them how rude some people > can be on a list that is supposed to be upbeat and inspiring. I guess if > it bothers you this much maybe you should be on the digest list where all > of the me too's would be on one message. > Sheryl -- families--are--forever@juno.com > > On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:06:20 -0700 Brandon & Shiela Lee > writes: > >Ok, I think somewhere along the line we are missing the big > >picture...so, being the rude, crude, thoughtless and tactless > >individual > >that I am I am just going to blurt it out.... > > > >STOP SAYING THANK YOU TO INDIVIDUALS OVER THE LIST!!!! PLEASE BE > >THOUGHTFUL ENOUGH OF OTHERS TO TAKE THE EXTRA 20 SECONDS IT TAKES TO > >SEND A PRIVATE MESSAGE. > > > >ALSO, (since I am on such a roll) IF YOU HAVE INFO THAT YOU "THINK" > >OTHERS MIGHT ENJOY...JUST POST IT!!! THUS AVOIDING THE "ME TOO"'S AND > >THE "I'D LIKE A COPY"'S. > > > >I enjoy this list so much, but as others have mentioned lately, the > >unnecessary mail is getting a little bothersome. Please don't post > >your > >private mail (or mail that should be private) to the entire list...I > >am > >sure that I am not the only person who had more than 40 mailings > >waiting > >for me this morning...22 of them being things that were not of any use > >to me like the "thank you"'s, "me too"'s, etc. > > > >I hope this doesn't offend anyone...I can't see how it could be any > >more > >offensive then having to spend 10-15 minutes a day of my time deleting > >mail that was thoughtlessly posted to the entire list. > > > >Hope we're still friends! > >Shiela > >brashie@ior.com > > > > > >- > > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > - > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:17:53 -0400 From: RootsByRitz@webtv.net Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Chastity Hello All, I am new to the list. I taught the chasity lesson just three weeks ago and I felt I should put my two cents forward. I spend time in prayer and really felt the way to relate to the girls was to be honest and factual. They are aware of the world around them and can handle a serious discussion on values. We talked about hormones and even joked about our favorite cute missionaries. Then, I asked them why the Lord would given them feelings and yet not be able to act on them. We discussed STDs and how sometimes the Lord gives us rules that have many levels - some practical and other spiritual. We talked about trust. We also spent a lot of time talking about waiting. Trying to see it from the other side. I dated the wrong boys and paid a high price and my beloved husband came along just 18 months later. Virtue can be repairable and they need to know that too! You may have no idea who is in need of this message, but you need to share with the girls woman to woman. They will thank you for your honest and sincere efforts. Too many people treat them like children and they really are women, just lacking in experience and of course, patience . Robin - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:37:09 -0700 From: edbowman1@juno.com (Elaine D. Bowman) Subject: [none] Sisters: In response to the mail about the unnecessary letters - I have to agree that with being a busy wife, mother, YW president, I don't have the time to filter through numerous e-mail. I have just been on this list a few weeks and I am already considering removing my name (which I DO NOT wish to do) but I am finding that it is taking a great deal of my time, which is very limited and I am sure 99% of us find ourselves with limited time. Thank you's and send me's are always appropriate and desireable; however, since it can be done privately, why not? I have communicated privately several times and find that it has not been a burden to me in the least and I know it relieves others of excess mail. I do love and appreciate all the ideas and thoughts that are shared. I think if we just took a few seconds to consider if everyone could benefit from our letter, we would make a good decision. As the subscriber list is apparently growing larger, this problem will only become more difficult and none of us will feel that we are benefiting. E-mail is a rather new concept and I think most of us are in the learning stage so lets see how we can make it work better. I have great love and respect for anyone who is in a YW position. We need to help each other out in this very demanding calling which we love. I give many hours of service to YW which I am sure you do, and I would rather spend those hours as efficiently as possible so I don't neglect my family. Thanks so much for allowing me to express my opinion. Elaine edbowman1@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:50:15 -0500 From: PAUL CHAPMAN Subject: (lds-yw) Re: Reply to The Big Picture > > Shiela, > Relax, I would assume that most people who are on the list are LDS. > I'ts nice to see the thoughtfulness (not thoughtlessness) to one > another. Maybe it would help to go through your e-mail when you have > more time and aren't so rushed. This life is full of so many pressures and stresses and I enjoy getting on this list and getting e-mail that is full of helpful insight, ideas and thankfulness. What a wonerful thing technology has brought us, to be able to communicate in this way. Still friends, and sisters in the gospel, Susan - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:39:58 -0700 From: Donna Fairbanks Subject: (lds-yw) Thought Dear Lord, So far today, I am doing O.K. I have not gossiped, lost my temper, been greedy, grumpy, nasty, selfish, or over indulgent. However, I am going to get out of bed in a few minutes, and I will need a lot more help after that. - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:12:40 -0700 From: Brewer Subject: (lds-yw) Fun Activity We had a fun joint activity this Wednesday, and I thought I'd share. First, we played Candyland (as someone had offered on the list), by putting butcher paper on the floor, with pieces of colored construction paper in each square. Then they pulled a piece of colored paper out of a hat to move forward. Instead of Candyland pitfalls and good stuff, we had pictures of Laman and Lemuel tying up Nephi, Capt Moroni and the title of liberty, the 2000 stripling warriors, etc, at various spots, and the picture of the Savior at the 2nd coming was at the end. We gave them M&Ms or skittles for each square they passed, and we had 3 squares that had Xs on them and 3 squares with stars. Those had bad and good cards to pick, respectively. Bad was typical stuff like, "You skipped the service project to sleep in, go back 3 spaces" or "You went to an R rated movie with your friends, lose your blessings" (blessings were candy!). Anyway, it was fun, and they got into it, because they got to share squares sometimes and chit chat. That took about 1/2 an hour, then we played Play-doh Pictionary, which they'd never done and really liked. One of my counselors made up simple cards for them to depict with Play-doh, and their team had to guess. All gospel related, like the first vision, baptism, ox, prophet, etc. They're all begging to play it again! Only problem with the Candyland game was that it could get bogged down with a large group (we only had about 15). Thanks for the ideas, guys! Laurie in Oceanside, CA - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:15:16 -0700 From: Stephen W Larimore Subject: Re: (lds-yw) The BIG Picture... Sorry I disagree with you. My vote is to keep the me toos and thank-yous private. Please if you mention an idea such as a pome or a cookie recipe just include in your post beacause someone will most likley want it. Thanks Sheila for beign brave enough to express what I am sure many of us are feeling. Jeri - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 15:12:37 -0800 From: "Dan Rostrom" Subject: [none] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BD6C6E.C1101160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I THINK WHAT IS TAKING SO LONG IS ALL THESE RESPONSES OF ASKING PEOPLE = NOT TO RESPOND!!!! THERE I GO--RESPONDING...I TOO RECEIVE 50-60 EMAILS = ADAY. I TOO HAVE A HUSBAND AND CHILDREN. I TOO HAVE A COUPLE CALLINGS. = BIG DEAL !!!!! DELETE ALREADY!!!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ A WHOLE MESSAGE = TO KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KEEP OR NOT. DELETE IT- GO ON WITH = YOUR LIFE!!!!KAY P.S. I APPRECIATED YOUR THOUGHT MOSIAH 18:21 - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BD6C6E.C1101160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I THINK WHAT IS TAKING SO LONG IS ALL THESE = RESPONSES=20 OF ASKING PEOPLE NOT TO RESPOND!!!! THERE I GO--RESPONDING...I TOO = RECEIVE 50-60=20 EMAILS ADAY. I TOO HAVE A HUSBAND AND CHILDREN.  I TOO HAVE A = COUPLE=20 CALLINGS.  BIG DEAL !!!!! DELETE ALREADY!!!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ = A WHOLE=20 MESSAGE TO KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KEEP OR NOT. DELETE IT- GO = ON WITH=20 YOUR LIFE!!!!KAY  P.S. I APPRECIATED YOUR = THOUGHT=20 MOSIAH 18:21
- ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BD6C6E.C1101160-- - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:23:35 -0700 From: Brewer Subject: (lds-yw) Re: E-mail etiquette Another issue about responding. Some people have to pay for their e-mail service by the the amount they get. So all those "me, toos" can add up, just like all the repeat messages that don't get snipped. I don't know if this applies to anyone on the list, but I think it's just one of those e-mail etiquette things that we all have to get used to. It's a different form of communication, and we're all just learning :) Laurie in Oceanside lkbrewer@pacbell.net - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 13:10:23 From: Marianne Baker Subject: Re: (lds-yw) pranks At 09:46 AM 4/20/98 -0600, you wrote: >Careful...careful...usually the ONLY ones who enjoy a prank are the ones on >the DOING end, not on the RECEIVING end. Can be lots of anger and hurt >feelings over pranks. We don't allow them, unless they are cute loving >things like the "heart attacks". Just my two cents worth. > >Charee Peck, Stake YW President, South Salt Lake Stake > The other bad thing about pranks is that one prank must always be bested. What starts in fun ends up being hurtful to someone because of our nature of one-up-manship. It's so much better just not to start. We do good pranks like the *heart attacks* too - anything that will uplift others. Marianne in Rock Springs - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:37:50 +0000 From: Jay & Paula Cheney Subject: (lds-yw) Top 10 HI, I want to compile the top 10 activities, stories, etc. If you could send me (by PRIVATE e-mail) the title or description of your favorites, I will compile them and put them on a web page linked from my homepage. And for those who are using juno or other services with no web acces, please make a note of my address and send me a personal message (NOT ON THE LIST) and I will send you the top 10. If this is something that is of interest, I will update it each month or so. Paula Cheney - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:31:02 +0000 From: Jay & Paula Cheney Subject: (lds-yw) Than U's & Me 2's For those who are new to this list, this is a subject that is discussed every 6 to 8 weeks. I have resisted in posting my feelings to the list but have sent PRIVATE messages to many of you. This should give a hint on where I stand. There is a point that hasn't been brought up. Many sisters are new to the list and often there are references to previously posted ideas(stories, poems, activities, etc) which they would love to have copies of. Not knowing who posted the idea makes sending a private message impossible. But that would require a post of "PLEASE POST AGAIN" type of message. Then if I am one who would also like a copy, I don't need to put a "ME TOO" because a request has already been made. It may take days for the idea holder to retrieve their mail and re-post the idea. (better to re-post because if one person wants it, chances are more do too). So WE need to be a bit patient in waiting for replies. If we can agree to try and avoid the ME 2's and only send PERSONAL thank you's to those who post ideas we like, it might make for a good compromise. At times I find the huge amounts of traffic frustrating. But, I enjoy reading many of the comments, when I have time. Other times I just delete most things. It really depends on my time. And I know that just because a comment or idea isn't for me, it may be for some one else. Often it is good to hear other views, especially from those in other parts of the country, and world for that matter. So don't be afraid to post stories, discussion items, uplifting comments, etc. That's what it is for, in my opinion. For those that read this. Thanks. There is room for compromise. We need to be sensative to those who have quantity limitations on their e-mail traffic, but also allow those who are new to the list a way to share in and request previously posted ideas(some of which are over a year old). Please if you have a comment send it PRIVATE to me at : jcheney@pronet.net Thank you all. As a priesthood leader over YW, can tell from the comments that you love the YW of your wards and branches. If not you wouldn't be sifting through all of this as a resource. Keep up the good work. You may never know how much you mean to these girls. JAY CHENEY, jcheney@pronet.net - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:26:37 -0500 From: ward-french@juno.com (judy m ward) Subject: "Terry and Annette Berger" : Re: (lds-yw) Other lds networks I found these in the bottom of one of my files. Hope it helps. Judy Arkansas I'll send the recipe soon for the chocolate chip cookies. I promise. I'm looking for the poem. Judy Arkansas www.primarypage.com http://php.iupui.edu/~whansen/singing.htm Singing Time http://members.aol.com/chriska1/primary.htm Primary matters http://www.panix.com/~klarsen/ldsprimary.html LDS Primary Mailing List http://w3.softdesdev.com/~debra/Songidea.htm Primary Etc. Bright Ideas Hope you find something on one of these that you like. - - _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:37:05 EDT From: CreeCre Subject: Re: (lds-yw) The BIG Picture... Sisters, I do agree that personal notes can and should be sent privately. It isn't too much to ask, I don't think. I do find it very frustrating to come online after being gone several days and having to spend literally hours sifting through all the mail I've received, only to find a good portion of it having nothing to do with YW IDEAS. I also agree with the sister who suggested that we put into the Subject line what particular activity our posting has reference to~~Standards Night, New Beginnings, Object Lessons, Inspirational Stories, etc. That way, we could all file away the ideas more easily. It would only take a moment, would it not? As for sending private emails, it isn't difficult. All you do is look at the top of the e-mail you are reading, and it will have a "From" line as well as listing the YW List address. Just copy the person's address onto a new mail form, and you can personally e-mail the person to request more information to say "Thanks!" That way it won't travel through the List. :) This is a new concept and many don't "have the hang of it" quite yet. Let's all be patient and let them learn as we have learned. Remember, we're all sisters in the Gospel~~what a marvelous thing! Love to you all, Cari in Nashville - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:33:30 -0400 From: kanewoman@juno.com (Susan G Kane) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) pranks Don't know if this was the former Stake YW President pulling the wool over my eyes (I am never quite sure with her!) but she said the ruling of NO PRANKS in our stake is well founded in official COURT RULINGS that deem serious pranks equal to a form of "Hazing" all now illegal, and could actually put the church in a bad spot with a law suit. Something to think about. Sue in NH _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:41:34 -0400 From: kanewoman@juno.com (Susan G Kane) Subject: (lds-yw) Stake Youth Committee In talking with a Stake YW Presidency member in a neighboring stake, I have learned that they have a stake youth committee made up of called or appointed Laurels and Priests who plan the Stake Activities. Youth plan our Stake Activities, but each committee is formed especially for one activity and then disbanded after the activity. The Stake YW and YM Presidencies come up with the general calendar with activities for the year (ie standards night, sports day, youth conference, leadership conference, etc.) sometimes with an idea of the direction we would like the activity to go. From there thespecial youth committees take over. This gives all of our youth an opportunity to participate in planning one activity every year or two if they desire, but no one is forced to do it. I can see advantages in either way, and I am curious how other stakes do it. Do youth committees plan your stake activities? How involved are they in the planning stages? How much is delegated to the youth vs. adult leaders? How are the youth selected that are on the committees? Comments anyone? Sue in NH _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:37:27 -0700 From: slcgreer@juno.com Subject: Re: (lds-yw) The BIG Picture... DITTO susan On Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:15:16 -0700 Stephen W Larimore writes: >Sorry I disagree with you. My vote is to keep the me toos and >thank-yous private. Please if you mention an idea such as a pome or a >cookie recipe just include in your post beacause someone will most >likley want it. Thanks Sheila for beign brave enough to express what >I >am sure many of us are feeling. > >Jeri > > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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