From: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-yw-digest) To: lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-yw-digest V1 #41 Reply-To: lds-yw-digest Sender: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-yw-digest Saturday, May 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number 041 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 00:09:20 EDT From: LDMcEwen Subject: (lds-yw) Poem.. Maybe for Good Works?? The following poem is from a sign on the wall of Shishu Bhavan, the children's home in Calcutta run by Mother Theresa's nuns. ANYWAY People are unreasonable, illogical and self-centered, LOVE THEM ANYWAY- If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives, DO GOOD ANYWAY- If you are successful, you win false friends and true enemies, SUCCEED ANYWAY- The good you do will be forgotten tomorrow, DO GOOD ANYWAY- Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable, BE HONEST AND FRANK ANYWAY- What you spent years building may be destroyed overnight, BUILD ANYWAY- People really need help but may attack you if you help them, HELP PEOPLE ANYWAY- Give the world the best you have and you'll get kicked in the teeth, GIVE THE WORLD THE BEST YOU'VE GOT ANYWAY. Pam..... - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 00:00:37 -0400 From: kanewoman@juno.com (Susan G Kane) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Jerry Seinfeld Get out! Seinfeld, doing a show with Marie Osmond! I can't wait. And I can't wait to see the pagaent this year. Lionel Ritchie!!!!!! Well I needed something to improve my sour disposition today - congratulations ladies, finally.........I am lol! (That is laughing out loud for those of you unfamiliar with e-mail terms!) Keep cheering me up - - I need it this week! On Fri, 15 May 1998 21:16:25 -0500 "Mike and Diana Burns" writes: >Kay, >Heaven's no, I'm not chastizing you! I watched it myself. I >probably >shouldn't have said anything but I read the message about this loops >relevancy to the Seinfeld show and took it all wrong. I personally >would >like to see more comments such as your Seinfeld comments. It helps me >get >to know you a little better. Had to air my feelings.... > >IMHO I thought the Seinfeld finale was lame. I think a lot more >thought >could have gone into it. I got the following comment from another LDS >loop >that I'm on. I don't think that there is any truth to it but it >would be >interesting if so..... I at first thought the following was another >"Ellen" >story. It may have nothing to do with the YW loop but it does have >something to say about LDS. > >> Subject: SEINFELD COMES OUT >> >> JERRY SEINFELD FINALLY REVEALS WHY >> >> (13 May 1998 -- New York NY) One day before the final episode, TV >> superstar comedian Jerry Seinfeld finally revealed why he turned >down a >> multi-million dollar contract to continue his number one series with >> NBC. >> >> "I've had a change in lifestyle," said Seinfeld during an interview >> today >> on CNN, "and the show just doesn't represent me any more." >> >> Seinfeld admitted that he has been investigating the Mormon church >since >> last year and has decided to become a member. His suggestions to >alter >> the >> show to suit Seinfeld's new character were rejected by NBC >executives >> last >> summer. "They wanted to keep the format and the characters the >same," >> said >> Seinfeld. "While I wanted to introduce more family values to the >show." >> >> That would mean no more of the single yuppie lifestyle, no more >> flippancies >> about sex or morality. No more scenes over drinks or even coffee. >> >> "For me, it was a matter of principle, and I'm just not going to >make >> compromises any more," said Seinfeld. >> >> Seinfeld says that he is comfortable with his decision, though the >money >> began to take on new significance for him. "That's a lot of tithing >> that I >> could have contributed," he said. All faithful Mormons are called on >to >> donate a full ten percent of their annual income to the Church. >But, >> Seinfeld says he was confirmed in his convictions after attending a >> meeting >> with Mormon church president Gordon B. Hinckley at Madison Square >Garden >> last month. >> >> Seinfeld joins other stars, such as John Travolta and Cathy Lee >Crosby, >> who >> have made their religion a part of their public lives. Seinfeld >> announced >> that he is considering a possible joint-venture TV series with >Mormon >> star >> Marie Osmond. >> >> Meanwhile, the entertainment community is trying to absorb the news. >> "Frankly, I was shocked when I heard Jerry was becoming Mormon," >said >> NBC >> executive director of develoment John Foulton. >> >> "Not that there's anything wrong with it. It's just that he's the >last >> person you'd expect," said Foulton. >> >> C. K. Woodworth >> >> (p.s. Late-breaking news: Lionel Ritchie will be appearing this year >as >> Samuel the Lamanite in the Hill Cumorah Pageant!! Don't missi it!) >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan Rostrom >To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com >Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 8:35 PM >Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Jerry Seinfeld > > >>Shiela- I didn't even understand what Diana was talking about. Was >she >>chastizing us for even watching Seinfeld? I don't get it. Just >curious. >>Kay >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Brandon & Shiela Lee >>To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com >>Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 5:12 PM >>Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Jerry Seinfeld >> >> >>>:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) >>>Just smiling because usually I am the one in "trouble" :) >>>Here's what I have learned (if anyone is interested) >>>Most of us on this list feel a genuine relationship with each other. > I >>know >>>that not a single day goes by that I don't check my e-mail to see >what >>y'all are >>>up to. There have been times that I have been tempted to send a >funny >>quote or >>>joke or something similar to the Seinfeld question. This is because >I >feel >>like >>>I know each of you and I honestly enjoy our friendships. >>> >>>As for what I have learned...take the time to copy a few people's >personal >>>e-mail addresses down to share "funny" things with. Not everyone >has the >>same >>>level of humor or the same desire to develop e-mail relationships. >There >>are >>>several sisters from this list that I send things to that I don't >share >>with the >>>entire list for this reason. I know what it's like to open mail >that seem >>>ridiculous to me... frustrating ....but to someone else it seemed >>important! >>> >>>I didn't read the "relevancy" reply the same way as others must >have. I >>thought >>>it was funny...because there really was no relevancy. I FOR SURE >did not >>think >>>of Sis. Cheney (I think that is who sent it) as a poor example of a >servant >>of >>>our Heavenly Father...I reserved that for "someone else"! >>> >>>I've been on both sides of this...some of you have been horribly >offended >>by >>>things that I have said (and probably some by what I am saying now) >and I >>have >>>had hurt feelings by what some of you have said. That's life! The >church >>is >>>still true. >>> >>>Before I step down and prepare for the beatings, let me just say >"Two >>wrongs >>>don't make a right". >>> >>>Been there, done that :) >>>Shiela >>>mailto:brashie@ior.com >>> >>>Mike and Diana Burns wrote: >>> >>>> SLLAAAAAAMMMMM!! Wince and watch that spirit go out the door. >Thanks >>for >>>> making my day a bit gloomier. We need more people like you in >YW's!!! >>I >>>> bet you make a wonderful example as a servant of our Heavenly >Father. >>>> >>>> Diana-TN >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Jay & Paula Cheney >>>> To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com >>>> Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 12:28 AM >>>> Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Jerry Seinfeld >>>> >>>> >And the relevancy between Sienfeld with the LDS YW list would be >. . >>>> >????? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Teresa Coates wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> What did you expect? Just curious. I've never seen a show's >finale >>that >>>> >> I've just thought was great. St. Elsewhere's was pretty cool, >but >>that's >>>> >> it. I thought it was okay...interesting plot twists. >>>> >> >>>> >> JMHO, >>>> >> Teresa >>>> >> >>>> >> >Did any of you watch the Final episode of Seinfeld? I thought >it >was >>>> very >>>> >> >LAME. How disappointing. I am a fan of the show. My husband >and I >>>> watch the >>>> >> >reruns. I have never watched it during the regular season. >So I do >>not >>>> know >>>> >> >if the last 2 years have been going down hill. But I was very >>>> disappointed >>>> >> >tonight. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Julie >>>> >> >>>> >> - >>>> >> To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to >"majordomo@xmission.com" >>>> >> with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. >>>> >> For information on digests or retrieving files and old >messages send >>>> >> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your >message. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >- >>>> > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to >"majordomo@xmission.com" >>>> > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. >>>> > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages >send >>>> > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >>>> > >>>> >>>> - >>>> To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to >"majordomo@xmission.com" >>>> with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. >>>> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages >send >>>> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>- >>> To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" >>> with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. >>> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages >send >>> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >>> >> >> >>- >> To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" >> with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. >> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send >> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. >> > > > > > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 21:28:32 -0700 From: Skinner@vtc.net (Toby Skinner) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Camp Ideas Mel, Way to go. I am proud to be a part of this program with you and Duncan Stake. Thanks for all you do and feel. When you put it like this, it sound extremely fun! Did you understand about the inspection sheets? thanks again. Sandy - ---------- From: Russ Richins To: 'lds-yw@lists.xmission.com' Subject: (lds-yw) Camp Ideas Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 3:42 PM I appreciate all the wonderful ideas that have been shared for camp themes and ideas. I've taken so much from the list, and never take the time to share our humble ideas with all of you who are so sweet to share your wonderful ideas with the rest of us. So, here's our theme this year. We are doing "In Camp-a-lot You're Loved-a-lot" based on a Camelot (Renaissance) Theme, complete with princesses, castles, evil dragons (influences of Satan), Jesters (our YCLs of course), etc. The girls seem to be really excited about the theme. And we had a hoot dressing up in princess attire for our last camp meeting. Each Ward has chosen a Value and corresponding Value Color for their Kingdom (ie, Knowledge are the Know-a-lots, Individual Worth are Worth-a-Lots, etc.) We are incorporating the family theme in several ways. Each Kingdom is referred to as "The Family of the Green Kingdom" etc. Stake Camp is The Royal Court and they camp at Our Royal Home. We have designated all areas of camp with Renaissance type names: Flag is in the Royal Courtyard, Sports is in the Jousting Arena, Fires are taught at The Spit, Personal Progress Class is named "Princess Power 101," even the bathrooms are The Throne Rooms, etc. We hope to impress upon our young women just how special they are and the royal birthright that is there--in a fun way. We plan to touch on our eternal family that started in the pre-existance, our present earthly families, and preparation for our future families. Have some cute skits in the works for all that. We will have Royal Criers who will present the Proclamation of the Day, taken from the Proclamation on the Family. We've pulled several Princess ideas from this list. Thanks! Melody in New Mexico - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - ---------- - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 01:00:54 EDT From: LDSMOMMY1 Subject: Re: (lds-yw) INTEGRITY Dear Sheryl, I just taught a lesson on Integrity this past week, and in my research I discovered that there is a purple flower called "Honesty". I don't know if you would be able to locate any seed packets or the actual flower itself. We also discussed the "purple heart" given to soldiers that suffered injury after war. I told the girls that they could equate this with "courage" as in "moral courage" to help them remember what it means to have integrity. I don't know if you could make your own "purple heart" badge. These are just a couple of ideas. Hope they can be of some use. Sincerely, Michele mailtome@LDSMOMMY1@aol.com - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 01:45:34 -0600 From: shannon_cannon@juno.com (Shannon M. Cannon) Subject: (lds-yw) Re: Good Works Someone else out there in email-land will know this better than I, but isn't there a bucket and dipper story about serving and giving to others? Something about the more you give away the water from your own bucket, the more full it becomes. And if you dip out of others' buckets you have less. I can't remember exactly. I've seen miniature buckets you could use for a cute handout if someone can remember the bucket-dipper thing. (I know, I'm not a whole lot of help) Good luck, Shannon in Utah _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 22:30:08 -0800 From: "Dan Rostrom" Subject: (lds-yw) Good works by example This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD8051.0420B2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uncle Elias By President Monson- Seemingly little lessons of love are learned by children as they = silently observe the examples of their parents. My own father, a = printer, worked long and hard practically every day of his life. I'm = certain that on the Sabbath he would have enjoyed just being at home. = Rather, he visited elderly family members and brought cheer into their = lives. =20 One such family member was his uncle, who was crippled by arthritis = so severe that he could not walk or care for himself. On a sunday = afternoon dad would say to me, "Come along, Tommy. Let's take Uncle = Elias for a short drive." Boarding the old 1928 Oldsmobile, we would = proceed to Eighth West, where, at the home of my uncle, I would wait in = the caar while dad went inside. Soon he would emerge from the house, = carrying in his arms like a china doll his frail and crippled uncle. I = would then open the door and watch how tenderly and with such affection = my father would place Uncle Elias in the front seat so that he would = have a fine view while I occupied the rear seat. =20 The drive was brief and the conversation limited, but oh, what a = legacy of love! Father never read to me from the Bible about the good = Samaritan. Rather, he took me with him and Uncle Elias in that old 1928 = Oldsmobile and provided a living example I have always remembered. - ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD8051.0420B2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    =20 Seemingly  little lessons of love are learned by children as they = silently=20 observe the examples of their parents.  My own father, a printer, = worked=20 long and hard practically every day of his life.  I'm certain that = on the=20 Sabbath he would have enjoyed just being at home.  Rather, he = visited=20 elderly family members and brought cheer into their lives.  =
     One=20 such family member was his uncle, who was crippled by arthritis so = severe that=20 he could not walk or care for himself.  On a sunday afternoon dad = would say=20 to me, "Come along, Tommy.  Let's take Uncle Elias for a short = drive."  Boarding the old 1928 Oldsmobile, we would proceed to = Eighth=20 West, where, at the home of my uncle, I would wait in the caar while dad = went=20 inside.  Soon he would emerge from the house, carrying in his arms = like a=20 china doll his frail and crippled uncle.  I would then open the = door and=20 watch how tenderly and with such affection my father would place Uncle = Elias in=20 the front seat so that he would have a fine view while I occupied the = rear=20 seat. 
     =20 The drive was brief and the conversation limited, but oh, what a legacy = of=20 love!  Father never read to me from the Bible about the good=20 Samaritan.  Rather, he took me with him and Uncle Elias in that old = 1928=20 Oldsmobile and provided a living example I have always=20 remembered.
- ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BD8051.0420B2C0-- - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 02:34:26 EDT From: Mastifacre Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Class Presidency Meetings & Activity Planning Honestly, if you have a class presidency that doesn't want to function as a presidency... get a new one. The girls might just be tired. New blood might just be the answer. Also, our Bishopric has a leadership training session every so often throughout the year. Particularly when we have new presidency's in each class. Sometimes the girls just don't realize what they are responsible for. Sometimes they just need something to kick them into gear. Good luck, Misty in Hollister - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 18:46:52 -0700 From: Ron Fesler Subject: RE: (lds-yw) INTEGRITY - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD80FB.05CB5440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps a woven rug or tapestry would say it all, because all of the = events and our reactions or choices concerning them make us a whole and = that is what integrity means-"whole". Each strand can represent the = character building situations in our lives-a loose strand would mean we = need to work on that area. - -----Original Message----- From: Sheryl L. Jones [SMTP:families--are--forever@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 8:36 PM To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Subject: (lds-yw) INTEGRITY My stake YW presidency is setting up this weekend for a missionary open house and wants to set up 7 tables-- one for each value. They have come up with an object for each of the value except integrity. For example:=20 Faith-- seeds, dirt and flower pot with scripture. Any ideas for the Integrity table?????????? Thanks in advance. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 08:37:16 EDT From: Carsonlei Subject: (lds-yw) Taboo subject--Dress Standards at Camp I have a group of taboo questions to ask. What kinds of dress standards y'all have for girls camp? Who set the standard? What happens to the girls who don't follow the standard? who enforces the standard? In particular, I am curious if any of you do a pants camp. It you do a shorts camp, do you say wear "modest" or do you say "to the knee, etc". Are the girls allowed to wear sleeveless, tank tops, cut off shirts, bikinis. Maybe you can guess, that we're having a power struggle. I wish however, that I could say it was with the youth-- Some of our leaders have some very liberal ideas!!! Not easy for a very conservative Stake Camp Director. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks. Sheryl - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 07:40:47 -0600 From: rmrichins@vtc.net (Russ Richins) Subject: RE: (lds-yw) Taboo subject--Dress Standards at Camp - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD809E.8BEB8CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We do a long pants camp, no open toed shoes, no shorts. This is not too = difficult for us because we camp in a rough mountain setting in tents. = We adopted this dress code years ago for safety reasons--cut feet, = sunburns, etc. It's cold in the mornings and at night, so the girls = automatically want long pants, even sweatshirts and coats. We camp over = Sunday and ask everyone to wear dresses (as in levi skirts or something = durable and plain, not frilly) for Sunday. We did catch a little flack = on the dresses for Sunday issue, but it was generally from leaders, not = girls. When we can sell the leaders on an idea, they are great about = bringing the girls along. I guess that's because the girls see their = camp leaders as fun women. We simply pointed out that our wonderful = Priesthood Brethren kneel in that black mountain dirt in their white = shirts, ties, and suit pants (that must be dry cleaned) to administer = the Sacrament because of their great respect for that ordinance. = Surely, we can be respectful enough to wear a skirt. Amazingly, we = haven't heard much complaining. Good luck. - ---------- From: Carsonlei[SMTP:Carsonlei@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, May 16, 1998 6:37 AM To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Subject: (lds-yw) Taboo subject--Dress Standards at Camp I have a group of taboo questions to ask. What kinds of dress standards = y'all have for girls camp? Who set the standard? What happens to the girls = who don't follow the standard? who enforces the standard? In particular, I = am curious if any of you do a pants camp. It you do a shorts camp, do you = say wear "modest" or do you say "to the knee, etc". Are the girls allowed = to wear sleeveless, tank tops, cut off shirts, bikinis. Maybe you can guess, = that we're having a power struggle. I wish however, that I could say it was = with the youth-- Some of our leaders have some very liberal ideas!!! Not = easy for a very conservative Stake Camp Director. Any insight would be helpful. Thanks. Sheryl =20 - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 07:12:28 -0700 From: Brewer Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Dress Standards at Camp Let's see. Camp and dances are two areas where we're pretty strict with our dress codes. The rest of the time you can see girls in short shorts or tank tops, and I guess their parents don't feel it's a problem. Anyway, our standards are: no 2-piece bathing suits at all, including wearing one with a shirt on top! If they don't have a 1 piece, we'll help them get one. And no swimming in anything but a bathing suit. no sleeveless or tank tops at all. shorts have to be at least mid-thigh. I think the stake wanted to go to right above the knee, but they found that most of the girls would have to purchase some, and it would become too difficult. So they decided modesty is accomplished with mid-thigh (8 inch inseam). Enforcement is: you don't wear it! Either she has to wear her pants all week, or the stake is bringing old ugly sweat pants for girls to wear. And for our ward, I'm bringing large strips of old fabric and a needle and thread, so they can sew a strip of fabric on the bottom of their shorts or on their shoulders if they need to. The point is, they'll look dorky and it's a deterrent. If they don't have the bathing suit, they watch the other girls swim. That's a deterrent, too! While there's no church standard for dress necessarily, a lot of people look to BYU for their dress standards (they are a church school, after all). Our parents have never complained. Nor have the parents of the nonmember girls who come. I don't have suggestions for how to get leaders to come around. Have you tried asking if the region or area rep has any "suggestions" for camp standards? I have no idea if Salt Lake City does. But maybe your leaders will have some respect for a recommendation from the rest of the church? Laurie in Oceanside, CA - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 08:54:50 -0600 From: "Terri French" Subject: (lds-yw) Father's Blessings Lesson This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BD80A8.49428840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear List Members, I am in a big bind today. I have company visiting me, our truck caught on fire the other day and my husband I are are trying to find a new vehicle today. We have four drivers in our home and only one car now. My Beehive advisor called me this morning and is ill and I need to teach her lesson tomorrow. The lesson is on Father's Blessings. I will have very little time to prepare it today. Have any of you given this lesson? Do you have any thing that could help me. Thank you, Terri French terrif@srv.net - ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BD80A8.49428840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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