From: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-yw-digest) To: lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-yw-digest V1 #45 Reply-To: lds-yw-digest Sender: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-yw-digest Monday, May 18 1998 Volume 01 : Number 045 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 21:39:36 -0600 From: "The Roberts" Subject: (lds-yw) celestial barbie I thought you guys might get a kick out of this a friend sent me. You might even find a barbie and dress it up like this and use it in a lesson about being perfect and excepting everyone. Whatever! Liz Introducing.....Celestial Barbie!! Celestial Barbie comes with 8.4 children. She wears a mid-calf flower print Laura Ashley dress with conservative flats (no heels), a bow in her hot-rollered hair with puffy bangs. Barbie wears a permanent smile, knows how to bake bread, store wheat, feed a family of 12 on less than $20 a week, make casseroles and jello salads, and still find time to read her scriptures. She comes with a MAV (Dodge/Ford/Nissan/whatever mini-van, otherwise known as a Mormon Assault Vehicle). When you pull the cord in her back, she becomes emotional, teary and says things like, "You have such a special spirit, Sister Jones" or "Love ya." Occasionally you can find one that says "Oh my heck!" but be warned: this is a manufacturer's defect. Celestial Barbie would never say "heck" because it's a swear word! You can buy a Celestial Ken to go with Celestial Barbie. But he's hard to find. Probably because his accessories include the mantel of bishop and so he's rarely ever home. - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 19:44:29 -0800 From: "Dan Rostrom" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) celestial barbie This is so funny to me because when I moved to this ward (a branch at the time) a sister told me it wasn't right for me to let my daughters play with Barbies because their clothes were to immodest!!! Kay - -----Original Message----- From: The Roberts To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, May 17, 1998 7:35 PM Subject: (lds-yw) celestial barbie >I thought you guys might get a kick out of this a friend sent me. You >might even find a barbie and dress it up like this and use it in a lesson >about being perfect and excepting everyone. Whatever! >Liz >Introducing.....Celestial Barbie!! > > Celestial Barbie comes with 8.4 children. She wears a mid-calf flower >print Laura Ashley dress with conservative flats (no heels), a bow in her >hot-rollered hair with puffy bangs. > Barbie wears a permanent smile, knows how to bake bread, store wheat, >feed a family of 12 on less than $20 a week, make casseroles and jello >salads, and still find time to read her scriptures. > She comes with a MAV (Dodge/Ford/Nissan/whatever mini-van, otherwise >known as a Mormon Assault Vehicle). > When you pull the cord in her back, she becomes emotional, teary and says >things like, "You have such a special spirit, Sister Jones" or "Love ya." >Occasionally you can find one that says "Oh my heck!" but be warned: this >is a manufacturer's defect. Celestial Barbie would never say "heck" because >it's a swear word! > You can buy a Celestial Ken to go with Celestial Barbie. But he's hard to >find. Probably because his accessories include the mantel of bishop and so >he's rarely ever home. > > > > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 20:54:01 -0700 From: "George Beatty" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Camp FEAR How about: Families Eternal Are Rad or Families Eternal Are our Reward Marcia - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 01:36:42 EDT From: TLC Gift Subject: (lds-yw) Fwd: Good-bye Activity This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_895469802_boundary Content-ID: <0_895469802@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_895469802_boundary Content-ID: <0_895469802@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: TLC Gift Return-path: To: Seminary@ListService.net Subject: Good-bye Activity Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 01:34:07 EDT Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello! I was hoping you could help with a YM/YW combined activity. We have a couple in our ward who have been involved with the youth for a number of years and they are moving next week. We wanted to say good-bye in a special way and was wondering if anyone has done something like this before or has any ideas. She has been in Young Woman's for about 3 years, and he was just released as the YM President. Our activity is this Tuesday nite. We would have planned something sooner, but their move was spur of the moment. Any suggestion would be appreciated. We have about 40 youth combined. Thank you for your help!! Belinda in Post Falls, Idaho - --part0_895469802_boundary-- - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:07:43 -0700 From: "George Beatty" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) I need assistance!!! Ideas for bonding experiences A COPE course is always good for a bonding experience. There are many stations that can be set up on a COPE course. Check with your local boy scout office for ideas. Most of them do COPE courses at their scout camps. If you can't get any help there, let me know, our 4th year leaders are setting up a COPE course for our girls camp this year and I could find out what they are doing. Marcia in AZ - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:17:03 -0800 From: "Dan Rostrom" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) I need assistance!!! Ideas for bonding experiences I'd really like to know what this cope thing is all about. Could you send more information? I am really trying to unite our girls who just last week were saying they're not as close as they wish they were. Thanks, Kay - -----Original Message----- From: George Beatty To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, May 17, 1998 10:56 PM Subject: Re: (lds-yw) I need assistance!!! Ideas for bonding experiences >A COPE course is always good for a bonding experience. There are many >stations that can be set up on a COPE course. Check with your local boy >scout office for ideas. Most of them do COPE courses at their scout camps. >If you can't get any help there, let me know, our 4th year leaders are >setting up a COPE course for our girls camp this year and I could find out >what they are doing. >Marcia in AZ > > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 07:57:15 -0500 From: families--are--forever@juno.com (Sheryl L. Jones) Subject: (lds-yw) Pillow Talk a few weeks ago somebody gave a great idea that I haven't been able to stop thinking about. It was having the youth leaders put a little something on the pillows of the girls each night at camp. I would like to incorporate this into our camp this year and am looking for a few ideas. We are using a medical theme, so I'd like the handouts to be medically related. The two I have thought of thus far include: taking an empty pill bottle and filling it with "Warm Fuzzies" with a lablel on the bottle saying its not a prescibed medicine but should be given out freely, etc. The other one will be to take a large syringe and fill it with value colored jelly beans and put a tag on it saying, Have you dad your daily shot of values? Anyway, I need three more. I was thinking band-aid, latex glove, tongue depressor. Any ideas on cutesy sayings for any of these or any other ideas? TIA. Sheryl in Minnesota Families--are--Forever@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:34:06 EDT From: MnMLinford Subject: Re: (lds-yw) I need assistance!!! Ideas for bonding experiences In a message dated 98-05-18 03:22:57 EDT, you write: << >A COPE course is always good for a bonding experience. There are many >stations that can be set up on a COPE course. Check with your local boy >scout office for ideas. Most of them do COPE courses at their scout camps. >If you can't get any help there, let me know, our 4th year leaders are >setting up a COPE course for our girls camp this year and I could find out >what they are doing. >Marcia in AZ >> Do you mean a ropes course (where there are different types of activities that promote trust and such in a small group?) - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:53:01 EDT From: Howelljac Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Pillow Talk We give m&m filled clear plastic gloves to the wards after the skits with a tag attached that says "Give yourself a Hand!!!" We get the food handlers gloves because there is no powder inside them. - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:15:47 -0600 From: "JOAN COULLIETTE" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Dress Standards at Camp Hi Shiela! You have me ROFL -- with Anti-KneeHi-Levi's! What a great sense of humor! I'll have to remember that one! Joan in SLC, Stake Camp Director >I remember when I went to camp as a YW (about 8 years ago) and we had a dress >standard theme: Anti-KneeHi-Levi's We all made fun of it, but we knew what it >meant...NO SHORTS. I think unless you actually help every single girl in your >stake pack for camp...you are going to have different interpretations of what is >acceptable for shorts. My vote would be go for long pants all week, no tank tops, >and modest one piece swim suits. I believe that the girls know what is expected >of them, it's just the thrill of the game to push the limits. With camp only a >few weeks away, I'd decide on a dress code for camp, publish it, and STICK TO IT. > >Just my thoughts... >Shiela >mailto:brashie@ior.com > >Brewer wrote: > >> Let's see. Camp and dances are two areas where we're pretty strict with >> our dress codes. The rest of the time you can see girls in short shorts >> or tank tops, and I guess their parents don't feel it's a problem. >> Anyway, our standards are: >> no 2-piece bathing suits at all, including wearing one with a shirt on >> top! If they don't have a 1 piece, we'll help them get one. And no >> swimming in anything but a bathing suit. >> no sleeveless or tank tops at all. >> shorts have to be at least mid-thigh. I think the stake wanted to go >> to right above the knee, but they found that most of the girls would >> have to purchase some, and it would become too difficult. So they >> decided modesty is accomplished with mid-thigh (8 inch inseam). >> >> Enforcement is: you don't wear it! Either she has to wear her pants all >> week, or the stake is bringing old ugly sweat pants for girls to wear. >> And for our ward, I'm bringing large strips of old fabric and a needle >> and thread, so they can sew a strip of fabric on the bottom of their >> shorts or on their shoulders if they need to. The point is, they'll >> look dorky and it's a deterrent. If they don't have the bathing suit, >> they watch the other girls swim. That's a deterrent, too! >> >> While there's no church standard for dress necessarily, a lot of people >> look to BYU for their dress standards (they are a church school, after >> all). Our parents have never complained. Nor have the parents of the >> nonmember girls who come. >> >> I don't have suggestions for how to get leaders to come around. Have >> you tried asking if the region or area rep has any "suggestions" for >> camp standards? I have no idea if Salt Lake City does. But maybe your >> leaders will have some respect for a recommendation from the rest of the >> church? >> >> Laurie in Oceanside, CA >> >> - >> To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" >> with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. >> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send >> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > > > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:39:25 -0600 From: cindylousmith@juno.com (Cindy L Smith) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) I need, I need, I need....part 3 Could you either repost I need, I need, I need....Part 2 to the list, or send to me privately another copy. I accidently deleted it. Thanks for all of your great ideas and helps. I admire people with so much creativity!!! Thanks, Cindy Cindylousmith@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:47:53 EDT From: CreeCre Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Fwd: Good-bye Activity Since you don't really have much time, how about a "Heart Attack?" Or maybe you could buy some stationery and have all the kids write a "love note" to them, and put all the notes in a really pretty box for them to take with them? If you have a one-hour film development place near you, you could also include photos of the kids to put in a small album while they're at the church Tuesday. What about a service project of helping them pack and move, or maybe cleaning up after their things are packed away. (I'm always so exhausted after packing, that the thought of cleaning almost puts me into a fit! :) ) These are just some ideas off the top of my head~~good luck! Cari in Nashville - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:00:14 EDT From: DJRawson Subject: (lds-yw) frustated!! Good morning ladies. Yesterday I came home from church very frustated. My Laurel president is moving in a couple of weeks and she had delagated conducting opening exercises to a counselor who did not show. The other counselor and secretary did not take on the responsibility when asked--I am not sure why. Then the Laurel president asked me to conduct which I declined since I had to leave before class was over (we were having a group lesson). Needless to say it was horrible!!! We have had several lessons on how to conduct but they just aren't getting it!! Next one of my Laurels was to finish her last Mia Maid value experience by presenting a spiritual thought on integrity. She was supposed to do it last Sunday and then last Tuesday but kept forgetting. Guess what? She forgot again. I had even offered to call and remind her but she assured me she would remember. She did an okay job but it could have been so much better if she had put a little bit of thought into it before!! then to top it all off--we had class presidency meetings, YM/YW committee meeting, and then BYC after the block. The only Laurel presidency member in attendance was the president. The other two who were at church left!! We were supposed to plan our class activity this coming Tuesday (yes, tomorrow). We are a relatively new presidency and the girls have not previously had the opportunity to plan their activities and it is a SLOW process in training them. Anyways, any thoughts or ideas on how to wake these girls up to their responsibilities? I think some type of discussion is appropriate tomorrow night, but I don't want to hurt any one's feelings. As far as the conducting issue, my husband suggested to have the leaders imitate the girls one week and actually have one of the girls do the lesson--we would just all swap responsibilities for a sunday--like a freaky friday--only something _______ Sunday. I have heard of leaders showing the girls a bad example and a good example of conducting and I wondered if any of you have done that and how it was received by the girls--were they offended?? My intention is not to offend but to teach. I would appreciate any ideas or thoughts that you could share with me. I am feeling very disappointed in my Laurels and in myself! You can email me at DJRawson@aol.com Thanks in advance Kirsten in Lansing, MI P.S. Yes we are getting a new president and presidency, unfortunately it is one of the girls who I discussed in this letter!! Help!!! - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:04:29 -0700 From: Stephen W Larimore Subject: (lds-yw) Camp Awards Does any one have ideas for awards that can be given at camp. The YCL's want to give out awards to the girls on the last day of camp and we are trying to come up with some fun ones. We have ideas on what we want to give the girls but we just need some fun cleaver ideas to call each award. We want to give awards that will be fun and not hurt anyone's feelings. Thanks for all your ideas, it has made my callings so much easier and given me more time to focus on the Youth because I am not having to spend so much time brainstroming for ideas. Jeri swlarimo@flash.net - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:12:03 -0600 From: "M. Baker" Subject: RE: (lds-yw) Pilot Program Wow! I agree. I think the numbers attending week-day activities will really drop. As difficult as it is for everybody to have weekly activities, I think it's a proven program. I would feel sad to have that change. We've had something neat happen in our YW lately. We had a 13 yo who was baptized last August and then became inactive. I told all of you about her - how Mom wouldn't let her do PP and really sabotaged her coming on Sunday. We have worked and worked on her with absolutely no success. In our ward council in January our Bishop asked each organization to come up with the name of family that we as an organization could work on. We came up with two names, and this YW was one of them. In February's ward council we turned our names in along with all the other organizations' names. Then the Bishop asked us to fast and pray for these families. We did. We updated everyone in the March and April ward councils. The Relief Society name is coming out to Church now (whole family) and has accepted a calling. In BYC in April the Bishop told us to focus our efforts on the YW where we were making progress and we hadn't made an ounce of progress with this particular YW. He said to keep praying for her, but to back off on our efforts. I was somewhat relieved but still really concerned. Well, the YW themselves weren't about to back off. Yesterday this YW came to Church - to YW. I had a hard time controlling my emotions. The YW themselves were so impressed. They KNOW their prayers have been answered. We had a missionary farewell and after church many of us went to a little open house for this new missionary and this YW wanted to go along with us - and did. She also committed to go with us on a temple trip in June. I told her I was so happy to see her and she said she just felt so strongly that she needed to come back to church because she still has a testimony. What a day! What a group! I love those YW. Marianne in Rock Springs - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-yw@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-yw@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of The Roberts Sent: Saturday, May 16, 1998 11:27 AM To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Pilot Program The thing that worries me about this program is that the girls who do come regularly seem to get punished. They now will not get an activity every week. I think it is important to work with and for the inactives. I also think that the girls should have their own sense of responsibility to get themselves to activities without parents pushing them. With those two things said, I would rather go every week (for those girls who can't remember if it is the week for YW or the week off) and work on getting others there outside of that time. Make sense? Liz - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:11:17 -0500 From: Ken and Michelle Duker Subject: (lds-yw) Thanks! - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD8245.70E12700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all of you who reposted the Personal Progress dinner idea. = It's now on my calendar for next month! Congratulations Judy on = becoming a ward. Exciting! We are the tiniest unit in our stake, even = though we are a ward and one other town only has a branch. But we feel = fortunate! Sorry to joke about the Lionel Ritchie thing that I read = about in another posting, I didnt realize everyone didnt know it was a = joke. I thought it was a great way to lighten up the tension after the = Seinfeld stuff. =20 Kay, I am new at this so take this with a grain of salt because I don't = know if it will work or not, but to emphasize Personal Progress I am = simply going to include this in my remarks in opening exercises (we have = all girls together because there are only 10)..I am just going to = highlight a value each month, and then each Sunday share a scripture = that seems to relate to the value ( I am just going to use the topical = guide) and then mention one thing that they could do this week from the = Personal Progress book, including giving them any aids I can (like = printing up a scripture, some questions about the experience to get them = started writing about it in their journals) I am going to concentrate = on the Beehive experiences, as I Only have 1 Mia Maid and she hasn't = finished Beehive experiences yet, but you could do this for more than = one level or alternate. Hope this helps! 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For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:13:18 EDT From: Jhenrick Subject: (lds-yw) organizing your postings I am wondering how some of you organize the postings you receive from this YW listing. I save them to MS Word, but do you have a separate file for each topic like, poems, activity ideas....... Just curious. Julie In SLC - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 11:09:02 EDT From: CreeCre Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Dress Standards at Camp Okay, gals, please don't think that we are heathens here in Nashville, BUT...... Our Stake YW President doesn't think it's necessarily all that important that shorts be to the knees. She understands what the BYU standards are, and does support them, but this is GIRLS' camp (hence, no boys to gawk). The standard she has set for the girls is that the shorts should come to the bottom of their fingertips (at least) when their hands are down at their sides. We are VERY strict about the one-piece bathing suits and absolutely no tank tops. She came to the conclusion that it is very tough for girls to find long shorts and some families just can't afford to buy shorts "just for camp." (This conclusion was drawn from feedback she's gotten from the parents in the stake.) She feels it is more important for the girls to come to camp and have a fantastic experience with their peers and leaders who love them, than for them to sit home because they don't have shorts long enough to wear. The nurturing and testimony-building experiences which are experienced at camp should be shared by all--even if their shorts aren't BYU standards. (Shorts that are a bit too short are the least of our worries with these girls, aren't they?) I adore all of you for the sharing and caring that occurs on this list! Thanks so much for all your great ideas and opinions. Our stake has gleaned TONS from you! We've utilized some from the list, and are continuing to do so. Thanks for listening to my two cents' worth, Cari in Nashville (Who, by the way, wears shorts to the knee, if at all!) :) Stake YW Secretary and Assistant Stake Camp Director - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:15:08 -0600 From: "Charmaine L. Peck" Subject: (lds-yw) Dress Standards - -----Original Message----- From: The Roberts To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, May 17, 1998 9:13 PM Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Another Taboo subject, perhaps?--Dress Standardsat Camp Hey, Liz, I am very proud of you! You are right! Just because someone is tall, doesn't mean shorts shouldn't be knee length! We discussed this very issue in Stake Council a few weeks ago. We were reminded that when we are endowed we are instructed that for this sacred clothing to be worn properly it should come to the knee! My sis-in-law is 6 feet tall, and about a size 5, so hers some to her upper thigh, and she wears shorts that are EXTREMELY short, using that as justification. Many of our Young Women leaders in our stake do the same thing. The priesthood points out that many are not aware that we put ourselves at spiritual PERIL when not wearing them properly. Thanks for being brave! Charee Peck, Stake YW President, South Salt Lake Stake serryp@burgoyne.com >I am going to have to buy new shorts because even though mine cover my >garments (I am 6 feet tall) I don't think I should go if they aren't down >to my knees. My example wouldn't be great because I know the girls would >see it as a do as I say not as I do thing. I have had several people >say...don't worry about it, they cover your garments and that is what is >important. > >Liz - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:31:31 -0700 From: Brewer Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Camp - Mondays Charmaine L. Peck wrote: > > You guys go to camp on Monday? Our Stake President won't let us at all, > because of Family Home Evening. We have a camp FHE; this year it'll be on Family Councils. We'll use it as an opportunity to learn how to participate in councils and also to review the assignments for the week, just as you might in a family. We go to camp early Mon. morning and leave Friday morning, getting home mid-day. The boys' scout camp is also full-week. Laurie in Oceanside, CA - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:50:04 -0800 From: "Gibson" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Dress Standards Dear Sisters, I have been a member of the list for several months just gleaning all the wonderfull ideas and I thank you for them all. I haven't felt like I had much to contribute until now. I work at the Beehive Clothing here in St. George and many sisters are not aware that we can do special orders. For tall sisters that the garments do not come long enough we can order them to come down longer. If you live where there is not a center you can call the 800 number to special order. If you are shorter than the petites that are made we can special order that also. If any of you have any other questions please contact me at my personal email and I would be happy to help if I can. The church wants everyone to be comfortable AND wear their garments properly. The proper way can be found in the temple ceremony. Sincerely, Jerri gibsontribe@southernutah.com PS Unfortunately, I'm not sure how the church handles things outside of the US and Canada. So I would not be much help for those in other countries. But however you purchase your garments, you could ask them and they would know how. - ---------- > From: Charmaine L. Peck > To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (lds-yw) Dress Standards > Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 7:15 AM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Roberts > To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com > Date: Sunday, May 17, 1998 9:13 PM > Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Another Taboo subject, perhaps?--Dress Standardsat > Camp > > Hey, Liz, I am very proud of you! You are right! Just because someone is > tall, doesn't mean shorts shouldn't be knee length! We discussed this very > issue in Stake Council a few weeks ago. We were reminded that when we are > endowed we are instructed that for this sacred clothing to be worn properly > it should come to the knee! My sis-in-law is 6 feet tall, and about a size > 5, so hers some to her upper thigh, and she wears shorts that are EXTREMELY > short, using that as justification. Many of our Young Women leaders in our > stake do the same thing. The priesthood points out that many are not aware > that we put ourselves at spiritual PERIL when not wearing them properly. > Thanks for being brave! > > Charee Peck, Stake YW President, South Salt Lake Stake > serryp@burgoyne.com > > > >I am going to have to buy new shorts because even though mine cover my > >garments (I am 6 feet tall) I don't think I should go if they aren't down > >to my knees. My example wouldn't be great because I know the girls would > >see it as a do as I say not as I do thing. I have had several people > >say...don't worry about it, they cover your garments and that is what is > >important. > > > > >Liz > > > > - > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. 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