From: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com (lds-yw-digest) To: lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: lds-yw-digest V1 #97 Reply-To: lds-yw-digest Sender: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-lds-yw-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk lds-yw-digest Monday, June 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 097 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:55:22 -0600 From: "M. Baker" Subject: RE: (lds-yw) Re: lessons We give lessons by groups but we do skip around. We try to pick a group of lessons that fits our value for the month. I don't have a manual here with me, but I think the lessons are grouped under a heading, so we always try to finish that grouping. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if it does.... Marianne in Rock Springs - -----Original Message----- From: owner-lds-yw@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-lds-yw@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Brewer Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 1:48 PM To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Subject: (lds-yw) Re: lessons Here's a question for you: do you all jump around in the lesson manual or start at the beginning and go straight through? Because I noticed June is preparing lesson #32, and we're on #19-20 this week. Do you skip lessons altogether? I've picked out about 10 that were easily combined with others for a lesson, but I haven't outright skipped any yet. I'm still a little surprised most weeks by how spiritually uneducated or uninterested our girls are, so I hate to leave anything out and assume they already got it. I've given lessons that were comparable to what I'd give the Valiants in my previous ward, and the girls look blankly at me (typical questions they interrupt me with: what's an apostle? what's an anti-Christ). So I've struggled with trying not to make the subject matter too babyish yet bringing them along! I don't know what they do in seminary or with their families to achieve this level of scriptural knowledge.....Does anyone else have this problem? And I'm talking Mia Maids and Laurels here mostly. Laurie in Oceanside, CA - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:56:06 EDT From: Subject: Re: (lds-yw) This List Please tell us how to do all this? - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:38:57 -0600 From: Ken and Michelle Duker Subject: (lds-yw) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:33:34 -0500 - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD8DA5.1FC275C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Misty, Wow. My already high estimation of you just went up several dozen = notches. No wonder you are such a special spiritual person. You have = been through a lot! What a fine example you are (I think I have already = told you this about something else!) I hope I get to know you better = sometime, even if I have to wait until after this life! 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For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:59:09 -0500 From: families--are--forever@juno.com (Sheryl L. Jones) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Stake Camp Hemp is the cording used to make beaded bracelets. It comes in several thicknesses and workds well for macrame. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 00:01:27 -0400 From: heart-at-home@juno.com (Teri A Hayes) Subject: (lds-yw) Good Works I'm doing a short spotlight on Good works this Sunday. To bring in the color, I'm going to use an oil lamp with colored water (and will probably use it for all the other values each month) and a bit about the parable of the 10 Virgins--------how values are a way to fill our lamps in order to be prepared when the Savior comes. I've asked 2 young women to share something about what they've done in that area in Personal Progress. What I need now is a short poem or story to pull it all together..........any ideas? Thanks, Teri You can't change the wind, but you can adjust your sails. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 00:09:04 EDT From: Subject: Re: (lds-yw) petty request I agree. Afterall, we should avoid excess in all things...shouldn't we? Marianne in Pleasant Grove - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:18:16 -0700 From: Michael & Kathy Byrne Subject: Re: (lds-yw) A Very Special Night For Me!!! Dear Michele, Congratulations on receiving your Young Womanhood Recognition medallion and for all that you did to receive it. You are an inspiration to me, and I'm sure to the girls you serve. Awesome!! love, kathy in Kenwood At 08:56 PM 6/1/98 EDT, you wrote: > >The most exciting and most memorable part of the evening for me was the part >where I was able to be presented with a Young Womanhood Recognition medallion >of my very own !!!!! I have completed all the necessary requirements to >receive this medallion as an adult leader!!! This medallion means so very >much to me!! You see, I am a convert to the church, and never had the >opportunity to go through the personal progress program as a youth!! Earning >my medallion, along with my young women in my ward, has given me a greater >testimony of the personal progress program. > Sisters, I know that this program is an inspired program !!! I bear my >testimony to you, that I know that if we can get our young women to love this >program, that we will be helping these girls to prepare for their divine >purposes in this life. > >I applaud all of you for your individual efforts in working with this program. >I have experienced many of the same frustrations, challenges, dissapointments >that all of you face!! I am so grateful for a forum such as this list where >we can all "pool" our ideas and "resource" each other!! I think Heavenly >Father would be pleased with this! Thanks, from the bottom of my heart, for >all of the ideas, thoughts, and kind words that have been shared!! > >Grateful to be a Sister in Zion, >Michele Knegt >YW Pres. in S. California > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 00:21:00 EDT From: Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Stake Camp We did this last year at girls camp and it was a huge success. The girls made necklaces, anklets, and bracelets. They still talk about it and want to do it again this year. It is something that they can leave and come back to during quiet? times at camp. Marianne in Pleasant Grove - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:35:18 -0700 From: Michael & Kathy Byrne Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Re: lessons Laurie, At the beginning of the year we started lessons from the front of the manual. Since then, as leaders we went through the manual and chose lessons that go with the value for the month. We've got the year planned now, and have the same lesson in each class so as girls move up on their birthdays, they aren't out of synch. Fast Sundays we have a guest speaker, usually value-focused. I never assume the level of understanding, but in general most of our girls seem to be up on the topics - particularly those who attend seminary. Between conferences, our Fast Sunday speakers, and special occassions, there's no way we'll get all the lessons covered. Hope this helps, kathy in Kenwood At 12:47 PM 6/1/98 -0700, you wrote: >Here's a question for you: do you all jump around in the lesson manual >or start at the beginning and go straight through? Because I noticed >June is preparing lesson #32, and we're on #19-20 this week. Do you >skip lessons altogether? I've picked out about 10 that were easily >combined with others for a lesson, but I haven't outright skipped any >yet. I'm still a little surprised most weeks by how spiritually >uneducated or uninterested our girls are, so I hate to leave anything >out and assume they already got it. I've given lessons that were >comparable to what I'd give the Valiants in my previous ward, and the >girls look blankly at me (typical questions they interrupt me with: >what's an apostle? what's an anti-Christ). So I've struggled with >trying not to make the subject matter too babyish yet bringing them >along! I don't know what they do in seminary or with their families to >achieve this level of scriptural knowledge.....Does anyone else have >this problem? And I'm talking Mia Maids and Laurels here mostly. > >Laurie in Oceanside, CA > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 00:40:13 EDT From: Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Hoping NOT to offend! Thank you, Misty...what a wonderful person you must be. My niece will be 23 the first of July and had a baby when she was a senior in high school. She made the choice to raise her little boy...at home. Her mother, my sister, was the one who has practically raised him, since her daughter went to college and worked. Though Chandler is a blessing in all our lives, it hasn't been easy. His father has taken responsibility and is a good Dad. My niece is now getting married Thursday at the Salt Lake Temple to a wonderful man who loves her. I do tell my Laurel's her story and what has happened over the past 5 years. Though I can't go into it here, right now, it does have an impact on my class and I believe they think twice about the choices that come before them. Marianne in Pleasant Grove - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:10:58 -0600 From: "Charmaine L. Peck" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Let's take it easy Maybe everybody should calm down a little bit??? I don't believe anybody is "passing judgement" here. You all need to remember that these are merely discussions and we can't see each others faces or expressions to know what each other is feeling or intending to say. One sister here said she was "flamed", or has been several times, and I don't think that this is really necessary or Christ like. So before we say anything like "how DARE anybody pass judgement" we should take a deep breath. Respond, KINDLY please to the topic and let's not flame each other? I have heard so many times here..."is that what the Savior would do?" So maybe we could try to remember that phrase when we respond so unkindly to others on this list. Charee Peck - -----Original Message----- From: Frank Morris To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 10:50 AM Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Abortion >Amen to that Misty and thank you!! I loved the video bubble >thought!!!! I am going to have to use that in talk a sometime! > >I agree also with you about the Father! His hurt and that Young Womans >hurt has got to be very big and that hurt just does not end in a yr. or >two. It will be life long hurt!!! > >I have avoided all the abortion and adoption e's sent out and just hoped >it would fade fast, even spent two days avoiding my mail because of it!! > >I will give you a YW's view on the subject of abortion! Years ago there >was a new film strip out about abortion that the church did! I was >probly 13 at the time! I loved Babies like I don't think anyone YW ever >did at least in our ward! Babies filled my arms from the time people >would trust me to hold them!! I had a strong conviction that abortion >was wrong ALWAYS!! But even with all of that my Mother made me go to >the fireside and watch that film strip even though I begged her not to >make me! You also have to understand that I was not one as a youth to >sass back at my parents or fight against them! But I did on this! But >still they made me go. I went crying all the way! In this film strip >they show a tiny babys hand that has torn from it's body by a form of >abortion!! It tore at my heart like I will never be able to describe to >you! I am 37 yrs. old and still the sight of that tiny little hand >being held out by a mans hand is so ingraven in my mind it makes me >sick!!!!!!! Did I need this!!! NO I DID NOT!!!!!! I know my young >woman and not one of them needs this!!!! I am sure some of you are >dealing with girls that are different than I was and different than the >girls that I have for YW's. But you had better make darn sure that you >have prayed good and hard about how to present this to your YW and which >ones may need it and which ones DO NOT!! Parents should be informed and >given the lesson before you give it to there kids so they may have say >and input as to how this lesson will be taught thier children! When I >came home from church that wed. night I was just sobbing when I told my >Mom what they showed and how horrible it was for me, she had no idea, >she had not seen the film strip ahead of time!! She felt just horrible >that she had forced me to go! I was not the only one that reacted to >this film strip! Most of the girls were just shattered by it! We all >had the same convictions and feelings on the subject! > >I am not saying that I have not talked about the subject with my YW it >has come up in conversations. Several of the girls where the little >tiny feet on their coats that simbolizes the right to life! They know >where it is at! > >We also are going through a situation in our Branch where one of my X-YW >went out to Montona to work for the summer after graduation and came >back pregnant! She knew from right off that she needed to put this baby >up for adoption cause she wanted him to have the benefit of a father and >a mother! They chose an LDS couple for an open adoption ect...about two >months before he was born they found that he had Hydrocifolus sp? water >on the brain! The adoptive parents said they would take him anyway >knowing how bad it was! Came out for the delivery, he was also born >with one finger missing and a bone missing in his arm. These adoptive >parents were there maybe 2 days and jumped ship cause they couldn't >handle it! The poor YW crying said to me "This was the one right thing >I was going to do" Why did they leave!? They brought this little guy >home who was not ever going to be anything but a vegetable. He is >smiling, laughing, using his legs and even his bumb arm! He is doing >just great!! But still knowing that he needs a Mom and a Dad they >turned to LDS social services! We have all grown attached to this >little guy, I live right next door and have watched him to help out here >and there! He leaves on Fri. at 4:30 to go to his new home! This poor >YW has more than suffered for her mistake! She has had this little guy >for almost three months loved him, fed him, gotten up with him, Been his >Mom. Now she IS doing the one right thing!!! It is tearing her apart! > >Now my Branch Pres. wants her to go into the YW class and tell them what >this experience has done to her! He wants her to go in and apologize to >them for what she did!! I know that we are suppose to support our >Priesthood But I can not tell you how I am struggling with this!!! She >owes NO ONE an apology except her Heavenly Father and this child!! She >is doing all she can to set this situation right!!! How do I let them >do this to her when I feel so awful about it! > >That father that got up and said he was loving having that new baby in >their house is doing just what Misty said! Surviving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >We are all doing the best we can with what we have and how DARE anyone >put judgments on another persons trials and how they react or how they >feel or how they deal!!! > >I am sorry, well no I am not sorry!! I think we as LDS members get so >caught up in self rightousness that we can't see the forest for the >trees!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Why do we continue to hurt ea. other with our OPPINIONS!!!!!!!!! Our >Savior never would do to us, what we feel we have the right to do to >others!!!!!!!!!!!! > >This was and is the wrong subject for me for this wk...it hurts so bad I >can hardly stand it and I am just a friend, I can only imagine the hurt >of this girl and her family!!! > > > > >Mastifacre@aol.com wrote: >> >> Can you imagine if all our sins were as visible to everyone as pregnancy. If >> the whole world could see every mean thing we said about someone, lustful >> thought we ever had, lie we ever told, omission we ever made, angry thing we >> ever said/thought... >> If they were like little video bubbles above our head that followed us >> everywhere. Maybe we would all be much more forgiving. >> >> Misty in Hollister >> >> - >> To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" >> with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. >> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send >> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:16:26 -0600 From: "Charmaine L. Peck" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Re: lessons Training that I have received about the lesson manuals suggested that we should prayerfully discuss the needs of our young women at the time, and teach them the lessons from the manual based on that. So you can skip around a lot if you wish to, just depends on the what the Spirit dictates you should teach. Hope this helps. Charee Peck, Stake YW President, South Salt Lake Stake serryp@burgoyne.com - -----Original Message----- From: Brewer To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 1:51 PM Subject: (lds-yw) Re: lessons >Here's a question for you: do you all jump around in the lesson manual >or start at the beginning and go straight through? Because I noticed >June is preparing lesson #32, and we're on #19-20 this week. Do you >skip lessons altogether? I've picked out about 10 that were easily >combined with others for a lesson, but I haven't outright skipped any >yet. I'm still a little surprised most weeks by how spiritually >uneducated or uninterested our girls are, so I hate to leave anything >out and assume they already got it. I've given lessons that were >comparable to what I'd give the Valiants in my previous ward, and the >girls look blankly at me (typical questions they interrupt me with: >what's an apostle? what's an anti-Christ). So I've struggled with >trying not to make the subject matter too babyish yet bringing them >along! I don't know what they do in seminary or with their families to >achieve this level of scriptural knowledge.....Does anyone else have >this problem? And I'm talking Mia Maids and Laurels here mostly. > >Laurie in Oceanside, CA > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 01:18:44 EDT From: Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Stake Camp All this talk about the macrame bracelets reminded me of something we did with the young women & they loved it Ü We got embroidery floss (very cheap) in the value colors & made "value bracelets"... just like friendship bracelets. There are books written for kids about all the different ways to knot them with very easy instructions. I just used my daughters books (she was 9 or 10 at the time!) and the girls really enjoyed it & wore them for a LONG time. It reminded them daily of the values they are striving to incorporate into their lives & improve on. We just did it as a Mutual activity... but I think it would make a fun camp craft. Sorry I didn't think about it sooner when many of you were looking for camp craft ideas... it took someone else to jog my memory!!! Hugs, Stacey P.S. Wait, I just thought of something else! Our camp one year gave little beads for each value scripture that the girls memorized in the different value colors. They were TINY, very cute beads & they just slid them on a safety pin that they wore. It would be fun to have the girls memorize the scriptures & then they could add them into their friendship bracelets when they made those. Just a thought! ÜÜ - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:18:24 -0600 From: "Charmaine L. Peck" Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Senior Night - Moments in Time Would it be too silly to have graphics of clocks all over the place? I guess that's something I would do since I tend to OD on the use of my computer. All different kinds of clocks maybe with cute faces. Dumb? Charee Peck - -----Original Message----- From: SPrice9OOO@aol.com To: lds-yw@xmission.com Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 5:22 PM Subject: (lds-yw) Senior Night (Yes I'm still working on it!) >OK all you creative geniuses.... > >I'm still working on Senior Night & we have a great program planned than= ks to >all of you... especially Jennifer & Shiela for your help!!! =DC > >My question now is... does anyone have ideas for decorating a huge gym f= or >this event? Decorating is just not my thing! > >The theme is "A Moment in Time" --- we stuck with something VERY generic >(boring?) that would work with the different things we wanted to incorporate >into this evening. >We are doing the time-capsules (thanks Shiela =DC) so that they can "cap= ture" >this special 'moment of time' in their lives. >We are giving them scrapbooking items to get them started keeping their >scrapbooks for college (recording the special "moments" of their lives i= n the >future) >Also, a video production sharing past "moments of their lives" (pictures= , >stories, etc. of growing up & advice, etc. for future moments ....) >We even sent the seniors their invitations with confetti, etc & graduati= on >candy in the mail in a clear plastic capsule (as in time-capsule) or bot= tle >(as in time in a bottle???=DC=DC=DC) >OK! It's kind of a "stretch"!!! but they were VERY cute & the grads went >bezerk (sp?) over them. One dad said his daughter was in tears by the ti= me she >got to the bottom of the bottle where she found a chocolate kiss that th= e >little paper said "We love you" instead of the "Kisses" paper. (Others s= aid >"class of '98" & Congratulations Grad!") I guess she felt very loved! > >Anyway... You get the idea I'm sure.... we are talking MOMENTS, TIME, ??= ?? =DC > >Sooooo.... do any of you creative wonders have ideas for decorating the gym??? >Some years we go generic with just balloons, confetti, checked tableclot= hs, >streamers in red & black (school colors)... >Other years we've gone with the theme for that year... Oh the Places You= 'll >Go, etc. etc. >Any ideas would be wonderful as my brain just isn't coming up with too much! >Thank -you sooooo much!!! >Love, Stacey > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 01:21:31 -0400 From: kanewoman@juno.com (Susan G Kane) Subject: (lds-yw) Visiting Utah! Sorry to post this to the list, but I have a selfish request...... I am visiting Utah and Idaho June 17-23, to visit U of U with my 19 year old, and Ricks College with my 17 year old. My 19 year old is hoping to transfer to U of U (studying Architecture).We are staying in a Condo in Park City that belongs to friends. I only get to Utah every 3-5 years, and love to soak in all I can in a short period of time. I hear TRAFFIC is horrific with the roads all torn up preparing for the olympics. What is new, different exciting happening in Utah that a Stake YW President shouldn't miss? Any specialty store I should visit? Is there anything to see if I visit the General YW Board Offices? A "Don't miss this" musical, play, presentation, speaker happening in the valley the days of 17-23rd? If you have any suggestions, e mail me privately, and don't leave anything out! Sue in NH....................kanewoman@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 01:10:25 -0400 From: kanewoman@juno.com (Susan G Kane) Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Hoping NOT to offend! I will finally jump in............ As a woman who, as an infant, was adopted by loving LDS parents in Maine, I can say I am so grateful to my birth mother who made the choice to not abort, rather to unselfishly give me life in a loving family. I do not know my birth mother, nor do I know her circumstances or feelings about what transpired 40+ years ago. I like to believe that she was able to overcome the consequences of poor choices, and go on to live a happy life. I have had no desire to seek her out, I only pray that she feels my gratitude for what she did for me. She was the means by which I might come to earth, gain a body, and be sealed to my family for eternity. I definitely believe that the most unselfish and positive act that can come from a teen pregnancy, when marriage is an unwise choice, is adoption. It isn't easy, it isn't soon forgotten, but I would hope it could be healing to a young girl, and would allow her to rebuild her life and go on to one day raise children born in the covenant. I have made my feelings know to my daughters regarding this, shortly after my oldest daughter's best friend became pregnant at 17. My girls (17& 15 at the time) were horrified that I would even suggest that I would ask them to give up their baby should they become pregnant! I am not sure I ever convinced them, because so many young women now keep their babies and mom, dad, welfare and daycare help them raise them. In the world, it is the accepted thing to do. Fortunately, in my stake we have had very few unwed mothers (1 or 2 in the last 7 years!) and we have an adoptive mom who has actively done the adoption presentation to all of our wards. OK, there is the opinion from........one of these innocent babies! Sue in NH.....kanewoman@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:34:33 -0600 From: "Charmaine L. Peck" Subject: (lds-yw) Direction from Salt Lake? I have a question. What is "the direction we are getting from Salt Lake?" I'm not sure I have seen or heard about this. Charee Peck, Stake YW Pres, SSL Stake serryp@burgoyne.com - -----Original Message----- From: L1011Jet@aol.com To: lds-yw@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, May 31, 1998 9:45 PM Subject: Re: (lds-yw) Re: Abortion"Who do you think are getting abortions?" >In a message dated 98-05-30 07:29:57 EDT, you write: > ><< << I would just like to pose the question "Who do you think are getting > abortions?" Many are teenagers....I think it should be talked about, just > like sex. These are the realities of life, we like it or not. >> > > Are you conveniently justifying a departure from the direction we're getting > from SLC? >> > > >Nope, I am not conveniently justifying anything....I am stating a fact, though >a sad one, it is happening and youth need to know about it. > >- > To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" > with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. > For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send > "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. > - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:36:19 -0600 From: "Charmaine L. Peck" Subject: (lds-yw) The Most Beautiful Flower poem The Most Beautiful Flower > > The park bench was deserted as I sat down to read > Beneath the long, straggly branches of an old willow tree. > Disillusioned by life with good reason to frown, > For the world was intent on dragging me down. > > And if that weren't enough to ruin my day, > A young boy out of breath approached me, all tired from play. > He stood right before me with his head tilted down > And said with great excitement, "Look what I found!" > > In his hand was a flower, and what a pitiful sight, > With its petals all worn - not enough rain, or too little light. > Wanting him to take his dead flower and go off to play, > I faked a small smile and then shifted away. > > But instead of retreating he sat next to my side > And placed the flower to his nose and declared with overacted > surprise, "It sure smells pretty and it's beautiful, too. > That's why I picked it; here, it's for you." > > The weed before me was dying or dead. > Not vibrant of colors, orange, yellow or red. > But I knew I must take it, or he might never leave. > So I reached for the flower, and replied, "Just what I need." > > But instead of him placing the flower in my hand, > He held it mid-air without reason or plan. > It was then that I noticed for the very first time > That weed-toting boy could not see: he was blind. > > I heard my voice quiver, tears shone like the sun > As I thanked him for picking the very best one. > "You're welcome," he smiled, and then ran off to play, > Unaware of the impact he'd had on my day. > > I sat there and wondered how he managed to see > A self-pitying woman beneath an old willow tree. > How did he know of my self-indulged plight? > Perhaps from his heart, he'd been blessed with true sight. > > Through the eyes of a blind child, at last I could see > The problem was not with the world; the problem was me. > And for all of those times I myself had been blind, > I vowed to see the beauty in life, and appreciate every second > that's mine. > > And then I held that wilted flower up to my nose And breathed > in the fragrance of a beautiful rose > And smiled as I watched that young boy, another weed in his > hand > About to change the life of an unsuspecting old man. - -- MZ=90 - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:44:46 -0700 From: Kim Jackson Subject: (lds-yw) RE: Stake Camp For a craft idea dealing with the value colors and embroidery floss: have any of you seen girls with just a tiny bit of hair, usually behind their one ear...wrapped with colored string and knotted at the bottom and a few small beads at the end? We paid and arm and a leg to have it done down at DisneyWorld...I returned home bound and determined to learn to do it just like they did...and it was a breeze...wouldn't that look cute with all of the value colors displayed? Just a thought... Kim from WA - - To unsubscribe to lds-yw, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe lds-yw" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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