From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) Plainview, NY show Date: 01 Aug 1999 03:37:35 -0400 Just got back from the show in Plainview and all I have to say is that it was fucking brilliant. Have seen Moby 7 times before but this truely was the best one. Quicky review, did some great covers during the second encore like Paranoid by Black Sabbath, portions of Guns and Roses Sweet Child of Mine, then Led Zepplins Stairway to Heaven then into a lounge version of Stairway to heaven with a roadie singing it. Very energetic version of Why can't it Stop, threw in some Public Enemy into James Bond, and gave a whole little thank to WLIR for playing him lately because it is cool for him in that WLIR was the station he listened to when he was growing up in Conn. More in depth review tommorow or is it tonight don't know must sleep now tired . good night all. Keith ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: Re: (mobility) misquoting Date: 01 Aug 1999 04:48:33 -0600 John Turpin wrote: > > Man, I wish some people on this list would learn how to quote properly... > at least don't quote someone's *entire* message and just add a single line > of response. Sheesh. Yeppers. I've even considered putting in a quote filter to disallow over quoted messages without enough original content. Taking a little more time to edit the quoted text in a response saves other people both time & space. So guys/gals, please look into it. Thanks. Damian. List Admin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moby Subject: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 01 Aug 1999 04:54:24 -0600 hey damian, i'm home for about 10 minutes between tour dates. i saw that some of the 'mobility' members were interested in my top 10 records. off the top of my head, here they are: 1-massive attack-protection 2-julee cruise-floating into the night 3-roxy music-first album 4-kraftwerk-man machine 5-nick drake-bryter layter 6-bad brains-roir cassette 7-tricky-maxinquaye 8-joy division-closer 9-prince-purple rain 10-talking heads-fear of music it's a difficult task trying to think of a personal top 10, huh. but at 3:30 in the morning those seem like honest choices. -moby > *** This message from MOBY has been forwarded & unedited > *** except for the subject heading. What a guy. :) > *** mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john coltrane Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 01 Aug 1999 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) WHOA! that's kinda strange. moby poppin' up like that. PRINCE! yeah! peace-christian --- Moby wrote: > > hey damian, > i'm home for about 10 minutes between tour dates. > i saw that some of the 'mobility' members were > interested in my top 10 records. > off the top of my head, here they are: > 1-massive attack-protection > 2-julee cruise-floating into the night > 3-roxy music-first album > 4-kraftwerk-man machine > 5-nick drake-bryter layter > 6-bad brains-roir cassette > 7-tricky-maxinquaye > 8-joy division-closer > 9-prince-purple rain > 10-talking heads-fear of music > > it's a difficult task trying to think of a personal > top 10, huh. > but at 3:30 in the morning those seem like honest > choices. > -moby > > > > *** This message from MOBY has been forwarded & > unedited > > *** except for the subject heading. What a guy. > :) > > *** mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "grove" Subject: (mobility) MOBY IN ST LOUIS!!! Date: 01 Aug 1999 12:16:52 -0500 moby is coming to the karma, in stlouis on sept 4 (i think). is anyone else going? do you know what kind of set he'll play? ive never seen moby live but im hoping he'll throw in some animal rights along with play and others. also -moby unrelated- has anyone heard anything on talvin singh's new cd? briton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY IN ST LOUIS!!! Date: 01 Aug 1999 12:11:40 -0500 I"ll probably go... I love concerts in st. louis. Man first a drive to dallas ... then back up to st. louis.. but its allllllll worth it ---rob grove wrote: > moby is coming to the karma, in stlouis on sept 4 (i think). is anyone else > going? do you know what kind of set he'll play? ive never seen moby live but > im hoping he'll throw in some animal rights along with play and others. > also -moby unrelated- has anyone heard anything on talvin singh's new cd? > > briton -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CleanHalo@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Hi, I'm new, kinda Date: 01 Aug 1999 14:29:01 EDT Hello! My name is Junaid. I'm 15 yrs. old. I absolutely LOVE techno music. I was on this list before like a year ago. But I got off cause I got like 100 e-mails a day. But I'm back! I'm also on the Depeche Mode list called Devoted. Artists I love include: Depeche Mode Moby Pet Shop Boys Erasure New Order Joy Division U2 The Cure Orb Orbital Meat Beat Manifesto Sex Pistols The Clash Rabbit in the Moon Future Sound of London Public Enemy Beastie Boys Cause and Effect Camel King Crimson Front 242 The Beatles Pink Floyd Roxy Music Single Cell Orchestra Nine Inch Nails Anything Box Crystal Method Duran Duran Bauhaus etc. etc. etc. My Moby collection is rather small, here is what I have: Rare:The Collected B-Sides Everything is Wrong Honey CD Single Move. Thats about it. Bye! See You! Junaid CleanHalo@aol.com www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/birdland/4015 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CleanHalo@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) top ten Date: 01 Aug 1999 14:37:38 EDT In a message dated 8/1/99 1:33:52 PM Central Daylight Time, heavens_trash@hotmail.com writes: << depeche mode - violater or songs of faith and devotion [ can't make up my mind ] >> YEAH!!! Where's Black Celebration? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoXyStAR81@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Plainview, NY show Date: 01 Aug 1999 14:38:16 EDT hi everyone- i'm new to the list. i saw Moby last nite in plainview also, and i agree- he was amazing! it was the first time i've seen him live and it was more like an experience than a show.. i got home around 3am and i couldnt sleep. i wanted more Moby!!. at one point in the show, some yelled out "fuck me!" and he was like "if it were humanly possible i would fuck everyone in the audience" or something. it was funny. but anyway, before i went i had heard of him, but i don't have any of his cd's.. which do you guys recommend i get first? ~sara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CleanHalo@aol.com Subject: (mobility) top ten Date: 01 Aug 1999 14:44:22 EDT Here's mine: Depeche Mode-Violator Depeche Mode-Black Celebration Pet Shop Boys-Please Jewel-Pieces of You Sex Pistols-Never Mind the Bollocks.... The Cure-Wish FSOL-Dead Cities Orb-U.F.Orb New Order-Technique Joy Division-Closer Meat Beat Manifesto-Satyricon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: Re: (mobility) top ten Date: 01 Aug 1999 15:10:19 EDT ><< depeche mode - violater or songs of faith and devotion [ can't make up >my > mind ] >> > >YEAH!!! Where's Black Celebration? in my cd player. :] no i just think SOFAD and violater are better than black celebration. black celebration is the third best depeche mode album imho. -jason www.mp3.com/wilt n . p . d [ epeche ] m [ ode ] . blac [ k ] cele brat [ ion ] _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) 90's ten Date: 01 Aug 1999 21:36:02 +0200 okay folks, now i still cant believe it, i skipped all moby (of course) (number 1 of the nineties) and all Family Trust releaes of FZ (some real nice things came out in the nineties, afeter FZ killed by smoking!) but here yo go, nope articulate order! 9. Triptomatic Fairy Tales 2002 - Jam & Spoon '92 (with NASA Nocturnal) 8. Speedy J - G-spot (96 i guess) 7. the Selection Album 93-96 - Yulduz Usmanova 6. Out loud! - Boom Boom Satellites 1998 5. Utah Saints 1992! - first and prob. only album unless somebody's gonna tell me! (includes whole new Kate Bush Album, wah) 4. Wu Tang Clan - first album i dont know, 96? bwoah... now get your horses ready to go to the shops! 3. Technomajikal - Lee perry by YELLO! 1997 (Swiss-made) absolete freaking top-tech-reggae dub this izzzz.. you guys never heard this, but when you do! than you'll understand! 2. Live in the Maritime Hall (San Fransisco) - Lee Perry! '97 the one Album by Lee Perry that is recorded right!) and this is where i learned something about BASICS of music 1. EREWHON, (nowheresville) - David Thomas & 2 pale Boys, real pale they looked inthe Paradisio one of the most terrible musical things i ever experienced, of COURSE you have to see David Thomas (pere ubu) LIVE, he has the biggest hands you'll ever see, and he will ask with them! and he drinks a lot too with those hands, even during concerts! He always drinks a half liter of Brandy *YAK!) and then he freaks yo ear that No.1 thing of me is out of sale probaly BECAUSE NOBODY UNDERSTANDS HIM! because he's from Cleveland! or maybe from Mars? at least there are no women on Mars that's one thing for sure, he taught me that too! relieving thought! There are NO women on Mars, so let's go.... to the Super-Mega-Store and find some cd's about that bweh Purple Rain is from 1987 Roxy Music 1971! surely their best! when Brian Ferry wasnt a fag yet or a playboy? kz -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) quoting exlist-member Date: 01 Aug 1999 21:55:31 +0200 u guys are gonna shoot me for this, but this is really a great Moby-fan who wrote this (to me) he's left the list coz he lives like a hermit, but i believe he's coming back, he's online yo can get his address with me, he used to be RYU (the Japonese warrior, but since there are 1000 warrior with that name on internet, he calls himself jon z now so If you have weak stomach, go to Delete-button: here ye go: > > you think what i said before was daring? really? i don't know... > just kinda my observations. not clinical fact...just what i think. > moby live is good for about 10 minutes, then boring. he doesn't play > ANYTHIGN except an occasional guitar...what bugs me most is that all > the music is on backup tape. he has a drummer, but the drummer only > plays part of the rhythms...and he has a percussionist to fill in too... > but it's still just not the same as on record. you are rite. what you > hear on your tapes is what he sounds like live. and he screams over > the dance music too much that it sounds bad i think. there is alot > of nrg in the room of course...it's all hi-nrg music...but not really > all that splendid. i really wish he woudl occasionally play an ambient > track of his...or maybe some voodoo child material. i think i like > that side of moby best. but he never has. as far as i know, the guy > has never played any slow songs. i've been talking to paul simpson > who saw him recently...and even the stuff on play...he'll only play > the faster material. that really irritates me. > that boomboom satelitte tour dates you sent...are all those > dates with moby? please let me know because one of them was pittsburgh so, you can shoot him in pittsburgh, :-) he's really the BEST moby-freak that i know, (besides paul, ofcourse) kaka -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john coltrane Subject: Re: (mobility) 90's ten Date: 01 Aug 1999 13:09:41 -0700 (PDT) > Purple Rain is from 1987 actually, 1984. but sign o' the times is from 87. and that is one of the best albums ever made!! WAY better than purple rain imo. even though purple rain comed in second. prince is another one of my favorites! it would be cool to see moby and prince work together. even make sense in some strange way. peace-christian _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john coltrane Subject: Re: (mobility) Plainview, NY show Date: 01 Aug 1999 13:17:30 -0700 (PDT) play,everything is wrong,rare,moby,early underground then pick the singles that you like for the songs you hear. my opinion. peace-christian --- RoXyStAR81@aol.com wrote: > hi everyone- i'm new to the list. i saw Moby last > nite in plainview also, and > i agree- he was amazing! it was the first time i've > seen him live and it was > more like an experience than a show.. i got home > around 3am and i couldnt > sleep. i wanted more Moby!!. > at one point in the show, some yelled out "fuck > me!" and he was like "if it > were humanly possible i would fuck everyone in the > audience" or something. it > was funny. > but anyway, before i went i had heard of him, but i > don't have any of his > cd's.. which do you guys recommend i get first? > ~sara > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) top ten Date: 01 Aug 1999 17:24:30 MST yeah it's pretty creepy. u know what part freaks me out? when he's breathing! my favorite part of the song is when he's singing fuck everything. that's just so cool. i love it. especially fuck all these hip gangster wannabes and fuck these disfunctional, insecure actresses love it >learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim... >that freaks me out everytime i hear it! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) Top ten albums of right NOW! Date: 01 Aug 1999 17:26:55 MST hi can u tell me where you got the smashing pumpkins and nine inch nails mp3s? thanks >I did the top ten (or so) albums ever....but these are the top ten >discs/mp3s making the rounds in my ears the past week (or so). > >I am on a decidedly electronic kick right now...and I didn't even know. > >These are in order this time, > >1. Richie Hawtin / Orange >2. Nine Inch Nails / The Day The World Went Away (single) >3. Squarepusher / Maximum Priest E.P. >4. Moby / Bodyrock (US single) >5. Atari Teenage Riot / 60 Second Wipeout >6. Ministry / Center of The Spoon >7. White Zombie / Ressurection Day (an mp3 collection of live songs from >the >devil music (volume 1) days) >8. Smashing Pumpkins / (We Salute you) Naked Man (a mp3 boot) >9. Lopez / Why Can't it Stop >10. Moby / Underwater (ambient CD included with some ETIW discs, 100 I >think) > >--- >Chris Stepanek - Designer - Nicholson | NY >cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388 >--- > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) 90's ten Date: 01 Aug 1999 20:27:44 EDT For anyone on the list: Has anyone taken the time to get into DJ Rap? She has an album called "Learning Curve" that is absolutely brilliant! It rocks but has an emotional element to it that a lot of techno/electronic music fails to capture. "Bad Girl" and "Good To Be Alive" are masterpieces! ps - If MOBY should pop up again, I'd like to know what DJ's or musicians he has take to recently, and if he is into DJ Rap. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: (mobility) mp3s Date: 01 Aug 1999 17:49:02 MST hey does anyone know where to get moby mp3s? i want to try and find some live ones or something. and the really fast. damn i can't remember what it's called. think it's thousand. while im talking about mp3s can anyone tell me where i can find the sond 'blue skies' by BT with tori amos? god that song is incredible! i love it! -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kyle L Yeates Subject: (mobility) moby at the matrixx? Date: 01 Aug 1999 21:41:33 -0600 Hey there moby folks. it has been a while since i wrote but i have a question that some of you might help me out with, especially you daniel. there is this club that is opening up some time in the near future in my hometown of ft. collins, colorado, called the matrixx. it is a dance club that the owner designed to be the same as the dance club in the movie "the matrix" that neo goes to. it sounds like a neat idea, and good clubs are something college towns like mine don't usually have. the thing is that i heard a rumor that moby is going to be playing the night that it opens, whenever that may be. any info you can give me would be awesome. thanks ~kyle ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig J. Rasmussen" Subject: (mobility) tickets to Austin show Date: 01 Aug 1999 22:58:41 -0500 How do I get tickets to the Austin show and how much are they? I cannot get them from ticketmaster.com because they don't sell them for the Austin, TX show. Please help me with this anyone, thanks Kevin craigras+AEA-msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TronicaFan@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 02 Aug 1999 00:04:08 EDT Wow, glad I asked the top 10 question! Good lists so far, and Moby himself chiming in was pleasant. It always bothers me when artists give their top tens and they don't stray outside of the style of music that they are working in. Rap and R&B artists do this a lot. Moby (and for that matter, the rest of you who submitted lists) showed a great deal of diversity with your musical tastes. Two things: Can somebody send me the artwork for play? I don't have a scanner, and I'm want to use it as wallpaper on my PC. Additionally, I want to make two CD's for a friend of mine. One will be a "Best Of" Moby CD, and the other a collection of quiet, meditative tracks (non-moby stuff, if it's possible). Any suggestions? I've got some ideas for both. Looking at including Moby, Aphex Twin, Peter Gabriel, and Sylvain/Fripp on the quiet disc. What else? -Riley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at the matrixx? Date: 01 Aug 1999 22:13:31 MST i can't wait until i'm old enough to go into night clubs. i'll go all the way to colorado and go to that club. it sounds awesome. a club from the matrix. they probably play some cool tunes, too. >Hey there moby folks. it has been a while since i wrote but i have a >question that some of you might help me out with, especially you daniel. >there is this club that is opening up some time in the near future in my >hometown of ft. collins, colorado, called the matrixx. it is a dance club >that the owner designed to be the same as the dance club in the movie >"the matrix" that neo goes to. it sounds like a neat idea, and good clubs >are something college towns like mine don't usually have. the thing is >that i heard a rumor that moby is going to be playing the night that it >opens, whenever that may be. any info you can give me would be awesome. >thanks >~kyle > >___________________________________________________________________ >Get the Internet just the way you want it. >Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 01 Aug 1999 22:17:08 MST hey i never knew moby submitted his top ten. when did this happen? hope i didn't delete it can you tell me what his top ten were? thanks _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) tickets to Austin show Date: 02 Aug 1999 02:21:52 -0500 > How do I get tickets to the Austin show and how much are they? I cannot get > them from ticketmaster.com because they don't sell them for the Austin, TX > show. > > Buy them at Waterloo records at the corner of 6th and Lamar. Their phone number is 512-474-2500 I still need to pick up mine also... Daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Batty" Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 02 Aug 1999 07:22:05 GMT >the other a collection of quiet, meditative tracks (non-moby stuff, if it's >possible). Any suggestions? I've got some ideas for both. Looking at >including Moby, Aphex Twin, Peter Gabriel, and Sylvain/Fripp on the quiet >disc. What else? Brian Eno. Definitely Brian Eno. Check out Music for Airports and Thursday Afternoon. Awesome that Moby chose Julee Cruise!!! Yes! Twin Peaks!!! Tricky too! The man has good taste! Later sk8ters, Dan Lee PS for Kristy Radford.... whatever happened to those ILTS posters you mentioned a while back? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 02 Aug 1999 10:23:10 +0200 TronicaFan@aol.com wrote: > > > Two things: Can somebody send me the artwork for play? I don't have a > scanner, and I'm want to use it as wallpaper on my PC. go to moby.org look for a picture of Play, click right mousebutton when you are pointed at picture, than Save As... ready, make it .BMP with a program like LVIEW or something like that. ready. kees > > -Riley -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) correction Date: 02 Aug 1999 10:29:35 +0200 sorry, i made a typo: 9. Triptomatic Fairy Tales 2002 - Jam & Spoon '92 (with NASA Nocturnal) = Tripomatic Fairy Tales 2002 TOP-recording German Sony, 1993 k -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Cerchiara" Subject: (mobility) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 06:15:40 PDT Date: 02 Aug 1999 07:16:13 -0600 Check out A song called "Losing Control" on Josh Winks United DJ's of America CD. It is one of the most trancy and bugged out songs that i've ever heard. >Additionally, I wantto make two CD's for a friend of mine. One will >be a >"Best Of" Moby CD, andthe other a collection of >quiet,meditative tracks >(non-moby stuff, if it's possible). Any >suggestions? I've got some ideas >for both. Looking at including >Moby, Aphex Twin, Peter Gabriel, and >Sylvain/Fripp on the >quietdisc. What else? Remember Raving is not a crime, it's a way of life. Junkdrome _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) New dates on Pollstar Date: 02 Aug 1999 09:57:11 -0400 09/01/99 Cleveland OH Odeon Concert Club 09/03/99 Kansas City MO Liberty Memorial 09/04/99 St. Louis MO Karma 09/05/99 Columbus OH Newport Music Hall 09/07/99 Pittsburgh PA Metropol 09/10/99 Washington DC Nation 09/14/99 Fort Myers FL Orbit Nightclub 09/15/99 Lake Buena Vista FL House Of Blues 09/16/99 St. Petersburg FL Jannus Landing No 9:30 Club in DC...instead he is playing Buzz which could be pretty amazing if the vibe is right. No Baltimore yet! :-( These look to be official. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) New dates on Pollstar Date: 02 Aug 1999 10:27:36 EDT In a message dated 08/02/1999 6:59:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Joe.Novotny@mail.house.gov writes: > 09/15/99 Lake Buena Vista FL House Of Blues i thought he was playing at roseland in NYC on this date....we better take a step back and see where these dates are coming from brovas and sistaz..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casey Pentz" Subject: (mobility) Casey's Moby Collection Date: 02 Aug 1999 09:02:15 PDT >>>Just thought I'd show off my collection. >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1.)Drop A Beat single >>>>>> 2.)Moby >>>>>> 3.)Ambient >>>>>> 4.)Early Underground >>>>>> 5.)Move ep >>>>>> 6.)Everything is Wrong w/ bonus Underwater cd >>>>>> 7.)Everything is Wrong Remixed >>>>>> 8.)Disc >>>>>> 9.)Everytime You Touch Me single >>>>>> 10.)Hymn >>>>>> 11.)hymn.alt.quiet.version >>>>>> 12.)Into the Blue single >>>>>> 13.)Feeling So Real remixes >>>>>> 14.)Rare: The Collected B-Sides >>>>>> 15.)Mixmag Live >>>>>> 16.)Voodoo Child: The End of Everything >>>>>> 17.)Voodoo Child: Demons/Horses >>>>>> 18.)Voodoo Child: Higher >>>>>> 19.)Voodoo Child: Dog Heaven >>>>>> 20.)Lopez: Why Can't it Stop >>>>>> 21.)Lopez: Emptiness >>>>>> 22.)DJ Cake: Sugar Baby >>>>>> 23.)Animal Rights (US) >>>>>> 24.)Animal Rights (UK) w/ bonus Little Idiot cd >>>>>> 25.)Come on Baby single >>>>>> 26.)That's When I Reach for my Revolver single w/ Everyone of my >>>>>>problems and Dark >>>>>> 27.)James Bond Theme remixes >>>>>> 28.)I Like to Score >>>>>> 29.)Honey single >>>>>> 30.)Honey remixes >>>>>> 31.)Run On single #1 >>>>>> 32.)Run On single #2 >>>>>> 33.)Honey/Run On single >>>>>> 34.)Play >>>>>> 35.)Honey remixes 2x Vinyl >>>>>> 36.)Bodyrock UK single >>>>>> 37.)Bodyrock UK remixes >> >>Remixes and Songs on Soundtracks and Compilations >>>>>> >>>>>> 38.)Let's Go Free (live)-In Defense of Animals >>>>>> 39.)The Shinning-The Jackal >>>>>> 40.)Speedfreak remix-Orbital #1 >>>>>> 41.)Everybody's in the Place remix-Prodigy single >>>>>> 42.)Gracioso-Senseless >>>>>> 43.)1979 remix-Smashing Pumpkins single >>>>>> 44.)Greyhound remix-Jon Spencer Blues Explosion >>>>>> 45.)2 Dead Man Walking remixes-David Bowie >>>>>> 46.)Tiny Rubberband - Spawn (w/ Butthole Surfers) >>>>>> 47.)Curse w/ Recoil - Bloodline album >>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________________________ >>>>>>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. 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Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Davies, Andrew" Subject: (mobility) RARE "Moby" album on eBay Date: 02 Aug 1999 11:06:24 -0500 There is an album for sale on eBay by the name "Peanuts" that I believe is the Pork Guys. Vinyl. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140380498 Just in case anyone wanted to grab it. Andy gingerbread man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) collection of >quiet,meditative tracks Date: 02 Aug 1999 11:38:00 -0400 Try the "APOLLO 440" album. They have a few really good tracks on there. Track 3 (or is it 4) is especially nice. - Jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 7:16 AM Check out A song called "Losing Control" on Josh Winks United DJ's of America CD. It is one of the most trancy and bugged out songs that i've ever heard. >Additionally, I wantto make two CD's for a friend of mine. One will >be a >"Best Of" Moby CD, andthe other a collection of >quiet,meditative tracks >(non-moby stuff, if it's possible). Any >suggestions? I've got some ideas >for both. Looking at including >Moby, Aphex Twin, Peter Gabriel, and >Sylvain/Fripp on the >quietdisc. What else? Remember Raving is not a crime, it's a way of life. Junkdrome _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Hi, I'm new, kinda Date: 02 Aug 1999 11:54:00 -0400 WOW, never thought I'd hear of Bauhaus ever again. Especially from a 15 year old. Cool! I think I might clean the dust off the 5-7 cds I have of them and pop them into the player. Good 'ol Bauhaus! - jayson -----Original Message----- . Artists I love include: Bauhaus etc. etc. etc. My Moby collection is rather small, here is what I have: Rare:The Collected B-Sides Everything is Wrong Honey CD Single Move. Thats about it. Bye! See You! Junaid CleanHalo@aol.com www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/birdland/4015 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: (mobility) Long time listener, first time caller... Date: 02 Aug 1999 10:02:02 -0700 (PDT) hi all-- so i've been putting around here for about a week now, and i figured it was about time i introduced myself to all yous... -well, first off-- i'm Jennifer... but that's hella long so feel free to shorten that puppy -i'm 19 -my moby collection is weak, so i'll spare you -i've known of moby for a very long time, saw him play in hartford, ct about a month ago (and i'm kicking myself hardcore for missing the new haven toad's place show... i don't want to talk about that) -"how much of a fan are you?" what kind of question is that? if you mean 'are you a groupie who crys when in moby's presence' no i'm not, tho if asked i might be able to squeeze out a few tears... given the right price :) seriously tho, i like moby a lot-- mostly, probably, because he doesn't really have one specific sound (see below)and he's an amazing musician, making music for the sake of music, doing what he wants, not writing for anyone but himself (and his listeners, of course). besides that, his music is just cool -other artists? i have very diverse taste- you name it i probably like it (with a few limits)... if you really want a detailed list let me know, otherwise i wont go into it -anything interesting? not particularly. i have a water bottle that moby tossed out into the audience at the hartford show (it was very very very hot-- the weather, not the water bottle) that he signed for me. yick-- that sounds a bit groupie, sorry about that. sorry, that was a little long winded-- i guess i should warn you about that too... glad to be here-- J #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) 90s top ten and the infamous bOYZ interview....resurrected... Date: 02 Aug 1999 18:27:06 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Toni Halliday and PJ are my heroines. Shame Toni hasn't got her act together now - more please. God, it was hard enough doing the top 10 of the 90s let alone the last 4 decades! And someone mentioned Creedence clear water..etc..and I lurve Velvet Underground..........anyway Moby...judge for yourselves.......... Here's the long-lost-but-found-infamous-interview: POST-TECHNO CHRISTIAN, MOBY TALKS BISEXUALITY, ONE-NIGHT STANDS, THREESOMES AND BRITNEY SPEARS WITH HOWARD WILMOT (24/4/99) If you're searching for a word to describe Moby, the man, 'gentle' would be it. You can't imagine Moby rising to any bait: he only shouts at American politicians in his head, and the last time he had a fight was when he was 13, though he admits to having 'rough sex'. Intelligent and inspiring, he says, 'the one thing that's turned me into a quasi-tolerant, gentle person is how distasteful it is when people aren't like that.' 'Eclectic' however, would describe the music. He might be best known for 'Go', his 1991 tehno track that sampled the Twin Peaks theme tune, but he's been through several incarnations since then. 1996's 'Animal Rights' saw him returning to his thrash punk of his youth, while 1997's 'I like to Score' was a compilation of tracks that have been used in the movies, including his take on the James Bond theme. Today, he's sitting beside two fierce electric heaters in Boyz' boho studio. He's not been warm since he arrived in the U.K. to publicise 'Play', his new album of hip hop, soul, ambient, blues and big beat flavas. An accessible postmodern opus that could only have been spawned by pre-millennial tension... - "What does it take to be a pop star in the millennium?" Moby: "It helps if you are under the age of 20, and it helps if you've got some paedophilic vibe going on. That's the Britney Spears and boy band approach: be young, be nubile, be moist." - "And how does that make you feel?" Moby: "I'm 33-years old, I'm balding, I'm not particularly good-looking and not very tall. If I pay atention to it, it can make me feel inadequate and depressed, but it forces me to base my self-esteem on other things." - "But looks are an issue?" Moby: "I wish they weren't. It can be very frustrating going to a party with friends of mine, because all my male friends in New York are all very tall and all very good-looking. So I'll be at a party and a cute guy or girl will come up to me and say, 'Who's your friend?'" - "No lover then?" Moby: "I like flirting and I like dating and I love the idea of having a real relationship, but whenever I've tried to do that in the past, it ends up being not very nice. I'd rather have a more fluid approach to romance, which is the occasional one-night stand, the occasional affair and being satisfied with romance when and where I can get it, whether that's having sex with someone, or simple flirting or dancing with them." - "Do you go with boys or girls?" Moby: "A little of both. I used to be pretty much exclusively heterosexual, but it depends...I like people. It's hard for me to generalise about what my favourite colour is or what my favourite season is, so I can't generalise about my favourite gender either." - "When did boys start creeping into your bed?" Moby: "Figuratively or literally? When I was 15-years-old I used to go out to a lot of nightclubs in New York, and it was a very mixed time; musically, culturally, and sexually. You found yourself flirting with white boys and black boys, and white women and black women. But in terms of physical sexual contact, probably five years ago." - "Ever star-fucked?" Moby: "No, I don't think I have. Celebrities make me nervous. I think if you hang out with celebrities, you should at least have sex with them. But a German television presenter, I think that's the closest I get. I can make up stories about me and Prince William, if you like." - "Has being a star enabled you to live out your wildest fantasies?" Moby: "No. I've had some extreme debauchery; threesomes, foursomes, fivesomes and whatever. That's actually how I first had intimate sexual contact with men: a bunch of naked people in bed, rolling around and oh, you find yourself making out with a boy. But my wildest fantasies tend to be about domestic bliss: living in the woods with friends and being in love with someone and playing piano and having lots of pets and making dinner and going swimming." - "Are you sick of the environmentalist Christian vegan tag the media's so happy to put on you?" Moby: "A lot of those things are only half true. I'm vegan, but I'm not a judgemental vegan. I love Christ, but 'Christian' can mean so many different things: Southern Baptist, Serbian Orthodox, Roman Catholic, or Episcopalean. And as far as environmentalism goes, I'm probably just as much an environmentalist as you or anybody else: I'd rather have clean water to drink than dirty water. I'd rather have a forest than a parking lot. A lot of environmental stuff just makes sense." - "What's so great about Jesus Christ?" Moby: "I'm most attached to the teachings of Christ. I love the fact that He stresses compassion, tolerance, non-judgementalism, humility, love and forgiveness. What's not to like about that? He doesn't mention the word homosexuality once, or abortion, and when He talks about the family, He talks about it in kind of disparaging terms. So it's strange that the Christian Right in the States is so focussed on all things He never talked about. If the Church focussed on compassion and love then maybe I'd go back to church." - "Do you see yourself as a role model? Moby: "I don't see myself as a role model, but I think I am to a few people. And if I am, I hope to be an honest role model. Not a good one, not a bad one, but a responsible person. I strive to be open-minded, compassionate, non-judgemental and also honest about who I am. Flexibility is such an appropriate response to being alive." END. On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:29:17 +0200 but not _the_ frankz wrote: > Tim Beecher wrote: > > > > In no particular order: > > > > Curve - Doppelganger > > > > PJ Harvey - Dry > ahhh, Curve and PJ (Polly Jean) in one breath, > now this must be someone i can talk with :-) > > all I miss now is Johnny Napolitano > a.k.a. Concrete Blonde... > (if you saw that hair, it'd make you concrete blInd!) > > k. > > ------------------- > > Tim Beecher > > Cranfield University > > T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk > > -- > > --------------- > "I'm livin' in Limbo!" > [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] > > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne N Thalheimer Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Concert and Meeting Moby Date: 02 Aug 1999 14:08:10 -0400 (EDT) hi folks. um, my name's anne, and i just signed on today (and got about forty emails, instantly! didn't realize this was such high traffic), but i felt compelled to post after reading rizwan's post about having met moby. i just saw him in philly after many missed tours etc., and the show was amazing, amazing, high energy and kind of restored my faith in the world (i'm 24 and writing a dissertation about comix, so i don't get out nearly enough, and i live in delaware, which is not such a great place). the best part actually was that since moby was drawing caricatures after the show (he actually made it a point to meet & talk to folks, which i found very cool and humbling and inspiring, etc.) i ended up drawing a caricature of my own for him (since i do an autobio comic zine). i've no idea if the little cartoon i drew even made it out of the TLA, but it made my week. thanks for reading. anne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) Puppy Date: 02 Aug 1999 13:55:00 -0400 Welcome Puppy! I was at the Hartford show. Wow was it HOT that day. Crazy day. I left right after Moby played (didn't think it would get better than him). Too bad he couldn't play longer than he did. - Jayson -----Original Message----- -well, first off-- i'm Jennifer... but that's hella long so feel free to shorten that puppy -i'm 19 -my moby collection is weak, so i'll spare you ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 02 Aug 1999 11:26:21 MST or couldn't you just righ tclick on it and go to 'set as wallpaper'? >go to moby.org look for a picture of Play, click right mousebutton >when you are pointed at picture, than Save As _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: (mobility) Puppy and the wonders of hot days... Date: 02 Aug 1999 11:48:15 -0700 (PDT) okay-- puppy works... tho it took me a second to realize i was being addressed. hot is right! i went with a bunch of people, not really moby fans-- which sucked hardcore, cause they insisted on being there at 10am and staying till 'bout 8pm... ugh! i was pretty much just there to see moby, so it was such a long day. i did catch train, a sf band, not at all in the realm of techno- but an entertaining show none the less [told ya i liked diverse stuff]. it really didn't get any better, believe me. yea, it really wasn't ideal show conditions with the heat and time constrains and all, but he sure does make use of what he's got-- i was right up front too, which rocked! -- J-Dawg (puppy?) :) > Welcome Puppy! > > I was at the Hartford show. Wow was it HOT that day. Crazy day. I left >right after Moby played (didn't think it would get better than him). Too bad he >couldn't play longer than he did. > > - Jayson #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JSoquet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #65 Date: 02 Aug 1999 16:47:56 EDT Actor Tom Cruise is involved in selecting the songs for the soundtrack to Mission Impossible2, now in production. Moby has submitted a track for the album, to appear in stores in May It's all about the Vibe. smile :) -SUn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wenzday Koans Date: 02 Aug 1999 15:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Hey kidz this is Eden and i am in desperate need of artists and writers. i am starting a zine called Wreaking Havoc; it’s based on the support of independent art in an environment of free speech and advocates free speech as a form of art (no, i am not being redundant… they’re two completely different concepts- just read it a couple of time) there are no standards, but if you want a basic idea… ART can be- drawings, photography, (political) cartoons, even doodling, etc. WRITING can be- short stories, poetry, articles on politics, religion, philosophies, current events, purely opinionated editorials, what ever the hellz on your mind, etc. so if you’re interested in submitting, send your work to me at Activyst@yahoo.com (please make note of the Y in activyst) ~ spread the word… support new thought ~ always your, anti-silence activyst---- -:Eden:- "i don't have it sir. screws fall out all the time- the world's an immperfect place." _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility)recoil Date: 02 Aug 1999 18:13:58 EDT can anyone recomend the faith healer ep. i have the bloodlines and unsound methods albums [ great stuff. for you who dont know recoil is alan wilder ex-depeche mode and guest vocalists. the vocalists so far have been : toni halliday, moby, dougles mccarthy, sibohan lynch, maggie estep, and hilda campbell. good stuff imho ] anyway my delema is since the ep is out of print its hard to find and i see prices for it up to $15. there is a moby remix but i just dont know. -jason n . p . r u [] b y . s [ a ] l t [peter] www.mp3.com/wilt "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) (mobiliy) toni halliday Date: 02 Aug 1999 18:22:51 EDT >Toni Halliday and PJ are my heroines. Shame Toni hasn't got >her act together now - more please. God, it was hard enough >doing the top 10 of the 90s let alone the last 4 decades! if you didnt know curve had a new album last year. the excellent come clean w/ the companion chinease burn ep and coming up roses singles. toni and dean are working on a new curve album but the release is expected at earliest in early 2000. this is due to them buying a new studio w/ rehersal space [ the creatures used their space to warm up on their last tour. they also stole away curves touring guitarist rob. ] and there has unfortuneatly been a death in tonis family so she needed to take some time off of curve for a bit. dean has a album of his 'flying sauser music' out under his nick headcase. the album is called mushimushi and is very good. toni does vocals on one track. it was just released on the street with new artwork. you can still order the orgional mail order prining from dean. dean also started his own record label mushimushi records. planned releases are a interactive music/graphic program called soundbox and an ep by dean and tim simonson. oh dont worry curve is still deans main project. these tracks are just stuff that wasnt very curve-y. so expect toni to turn up on a couple of releases. relevant urls : www.curve.co.uk - curves outdated offical page. dean posts updates on the notice board section www.mushimushi.net - deans label. fun internet toys like LED and a preview of his headcase album. -jason n . p . ruby . salt peter www.mp3.com/wilt "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Puppy and the wonders of hot days... Date: 02 Aug 1999 17:38:00 -0400 I saw TRAIN too!! They rocked! Good band. They really played together. I thought they were from Wisconsin tho ... Oh well. They were really good. - Jayson -----Original Message----- i did catch train, a sf band, not at all in the realm of techno- but an entertaining show none the less [told ya i liked diverse stuff]. it really didn't get any better, believe me. yea, it really wasn't ideal show conditions with the heat and time constrains and all, but he sure does make use of what he's got-- i was right up front too, which rocked! -- J-Dawg (puppy?) :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael haag Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #65 Date: 02 Aug 1999 17:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Hi all, I was listening to Howard Stern this morning and they quoted Moby! I don't know if any of you care about the Howard Stern show. In fact, I hope you don't. It's a bunch of garbage usually. But today they got Moby's opinion on Woodstock. They called him "Techno artist Moby", so I think it's safe to say they have no idea who he is (not because he isn't a techno artist, but because they had to add the "techno" part as a disclaimer for no one knowing who the hell he is). They said (roughly, I can't remember the exact words) Moby explained that the cause of the violence at Woodstock was the generally aggressive/violent nature of the performers and styles of music at the festival. They quoted him saying (not exact quote)that acts like Kid Rock and the Insane Clown Posse aren't about peace and love. The spirit of the first Woodstock was hardly present at Woodstock 99. This mention of an interview with Moby is sadly the most concrete information I have of Moby at Woodstock. I am very dissappointed with the pay per view broadcast. I can't believe I sat through all those acts only to find out that Moby was never shown. What a bummer :( Thanks to whomever posted summaries of his set at Woodstock. I'm still looking for the name of the venue for Moby's Buffalo NY show (on august 29th?). If anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it. Later, Mike _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: (mobility) kid rock and icp suck Date: 02 Aug 1999 22:12:29 MST moby was at woodstock? damn i must have been living under a rock or in a cave. didn't the chemical brothers also play? i also think that ICP and kid rock both suck. icp isn't even music. just a crap that gets airplay cuz it has goofy lyrics. same with kid rock. another crappy band or artist who only gets his stuff played because he can come up with dumb phrases like 'bahwitdabah'. c'mon!!! this isn't music! he's gonna become a sellout i think. but those are just my opinions and thought some of you might like to hear them -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mobyee@aol.com Subject: (mobility) way off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 01:28:01 EDT wow i can't believe i am saying this but i am actually going to be supporting kid rock, only because he old stuff is really good...not only that but he is is from detroit ~courtney~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: moby1342@juno.com Subject: (mobility) Top 10" Date: 03 Aug 1999 01:34:54 -0500 the list was talking about top ten albums right....so anyway...i pick up the new spin...and it has the top 90 or the 90s.. moby...play...#20...no other moby cdz though....whihc i disagree with... but... pj harvey..to bring you my love..was number 8 or 9..pretty cool latas love, f ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) (mobiliy) toni halliday Date: 03 Aug 1999 10:23:13 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) On Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:22:51 EDT - hyponoise - wrote: > >Toni Halliday and PJ are my heroines. Shame Toni hasn't got > >her act together now - more please. God, it was hard enough > >doing the top 10 of the 90s let alone the last 4 decades! > > if you didnt know curve had a new album last year. the excellent come clean > w/ the companion chinease burn ep and coming up roses singles. toni and dean > are working on a new curve album but the release is expected at earliest in > early 2000. this is due to them buying a new studio w/ rehersal space [ the > creatures used their space to warm up on their last tour. they also stole > away curves touring guitarist rob. ] and there has unfortuneatly been a > death in tonis family so she needed to take some time off of curve for a > bit. > > Cheers for the info Jason. I've got Curve's album from last year - some good tracks on it. Not a patch on Doppelganger though. For some reason I'm always the last to hear the news about Curve. I realised the last album was about, 3 months after it was released! I was wondering who the guitarist was, when I saw The Creatures live at Glasto this year. They were great. Siouxsie Sioux is another one of my heroines. She is so darkly humourous and sexy. Anyway anyone else going to see Moby at The Scala, London in September? TMB ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 03 Aug 1999 05:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Man I would of thought that there would be a whole lot more of Roxy in his top ten. How wrong was I? Thanks Moby, For everyting. Do you think that people thank him? I have so many questions every time that I meet him and I forget to say thank you. I hope he knows this. Bri --- Moby wrote: > > hey damian, > i'm home for about 10 minutes between tour dates. > i saw that some of the 'mobility' members were > interested in my top 10 records. > off the top of my head, here they are: > 1-massive attack-protection > 2-julee cruise-floating into the night > 3-roxy music-first album > === _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) ...'you SPIN me right round, baby, right round'... Date: 03 Aug 1999 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) okay- i like pj harvey and all, and i do have several of her albums (incl. 'to bring you my love') but i really don't think that 'to bring you' was the choicest of her albums. this is just me tho. there were a few i'd have to disagree with, but you know, whatever-- spin really likes some artists and they reenforced that by picking them... the moby thing was a little weird, but again, spin really liked play. (meee tooo!) i also would just like to say that the accompanying articles (spin 90 of 90's) were really dry. random comments. that is al. --J ---moby1342@juno.com wrote:--- >moby...play...#20...no other moby cdz though....whihc i disagree with... >but... >pj harvey..to bring you my love..was number 8 or 9..pretty cool #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stegenga, Scott" Subject: (mobility) Seattle? Date: 03 Aug 1999 08:55:39 -0500 Anyone here from Seattle, or are familiar with the scene? I'll be going there for the week of August 9 to 13 for business. Tunes.com has me going there to partake in a 'trip to Mecca' which would be the Microsoft campus. So I'll ask the usual question, anything worth checking out that week music wise? I'll be with some other folks who have a variety of musical tastes, but I can always separate from the crowd. I don't expect to try and hook up with anyone on the list. but if there's something happening live-wise especially woirth checking out, I'd love to know. My work email is in the message as usual and you can email me personally so as to not clutter the list with boring banter. Ciao. Scott Stegenga Tunes.com (formerly JAMTV/RollingStone Network) ...same company, more stuff... 312-642-7560 x109 http://www.tunes.com http://www.rollingstone.com http://www.thesource.com http://www.downbeatjazz.com http://www.rsradio.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: Re: (mobility) (mobiliy) toni halliday Date: 03 Aug 1999 10:57:22 EDT unfortunately i missed seeing the last two creatures tour. their tour w/ john cale came in the same week as two other concerts. [ that week had four concerts i wanted to go to. i ended up missing MBM and the creatures ]. but rob is funny as hell if you ever talk to him. he REALLY likes nin. also more curve news - rob and monti are starting a new band called sulphur. also curve released a ep called pink girl with the blues since they reformed as well. its very rare and was released on tonis label fatlip. did you see curve on the come clean tour? it was damn good. DJ? Acucrack opened, the dandy worhols rambled on for an hour and twenty minutes [ all because someone next to me flicked them off and threatened to kill their junkie asses after every song. it could of been the same song over and over since it all sounded the same. the guitarist was so wasted he hadto bend over and hit his pedals with his hand. the drums were the samel all night just a varying tempo and some fatt ugly thing failed to realise the full potentional of a moog keyboard. if i had a moog.... ] curve rocked the house tho. >I was wondering who the guitarist was, when I saw The >Creatures live at Glasto this year. They were great. >Siouxsie Sioux is another one of my heroines. She is so >darkly humourous and sexy. -jason n . p . nin / the day the world went away / starfuckers inc www.mp3.com/wilt "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) mp3 artists Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:05:36 EDT just a thought : why dont all the mobility artists on mp3.com interlink out sites. kind of a 'united moby fan front' or something like that. anyone intersted send me your url so we can exchange links. -jason n . p . nin / the day the world went away www.mp3.com/wilt "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: (mobility) WARNING: semi-disgruntled worker Date: 03 Aug 1999 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT) okay-- this really has nothing to do with anything (most certainly not moby related)... unfortunately you guys are just the only captive audience i have at the moment, so bear with me while i complain a bit... my desk at work is smack dab in the middle of document central-- we've got the archives on my right, two photocopiers behind me, and shreadders and recycle bins galore on my left... recycle bins, normally good, right? well, when mixed in with two high capacity photocopiers, they are bad bad bad! they seem to give people the feeling that they have the right to make needless copies, and tons of them-- for example just a few moments ago, some guy was copying 10 copies of a 150 page document, that could easily be emailed to the 10 individuals-- but instead, they'll be read once, then recycled. what a waste! and even tho the paper is being recycled, that doesn't really matter much-- the majority of paper used in the us comes straight from the tree, not the recycling center (okay, i think the former was a fact, but i have no idea of its accuracy, so if you know better feel free to dispute me). and what is made of recycled material usually is not entirely post consumer recycled-- (note your cereal boxes-- 40% post-consumer waste/recycled material means only 40% of the box is made from what we throw in our big blue bins). goodness knows, we don't use any recycled paper here! :( -- J ps-- arg! someone just asked me if i'd 'please make seven copies of this document?' talk about timing... #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) chart news/MI2 sdtk. Date: 03 Aug 1999 10:10:50 -0700 (PDT) ALTERNATIVE CHARTS: #31!!! (up from 34 or 36 or sumthin) Album charts: #192 up from 196 Dance club:#38 up from 50 Dance sales:#26 or so up from like 28, 29 yay!!! ALSO: in the new EW, it sez Moby contributed to the new Mission Impossible 2 soundtrack. joy!!! no word on what song yet. also, i'm arguing with a sockhead who's saying that Moby has sold out and is mainstream and gets played on MTV nonstop. I'm like, what the hell??? sure, we all WISH MTV played moby constantly, but does that happen? sorry to sound so naive, but I have no clue whats up with this dude... anyway i noted that Moby didnt play WDMHFSB? at the show, well he did, i just forgot. it was a trick see, i was testing your reading comprehension!!! haha! bye! "I cheated! Cheated cheated cheated cheated cheated!" "What are you trying to say, Lisa?" "I CHEATED!!!!"-Lisa and Principal Skinner === W W C D WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO?????? SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #66 Date: 03 Aug 1999 13:57:13 EDT hiya, i'm new to the list. just wanted to say i saw moby at his sold out show in NYC which totally kicked ass - he's so talented. i also met him accidentally after the show - he's such a nice guy. by the way there is a tiny thing about moby in this month's teen people called "celebrity woes" where he describes one of his most embarassing moments. he said that while he was seeing some girl ; ( once, he was working out alot on his abs and when he flexed to show her his stomach, he accidentally farted real loud. he looks like a priest in the picture, nevertheless, adorable. animal liberation and vegan power. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tribble Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10" Date: 03 Aug 1999 10:57:34 -0700 Wow! I was really pleased to see Moby posting his top ten and I had to say something here because several of these would make it in my top ten as well! Joy Division- beyond any doubt. Roxy Music, except I think my favorite album would be Flesh & Blood, Kraftwerk- I'm right there with ya, Talking Heads- Fear of Music (excellent album!!) although I'm afraid my very favorite would be Remain In Light. Massive Attack and Bad Brains come close to my top ten and the rest I have a very deep appreciation for at the very least with the excpetion of Nick Drake (who I have no idea who that is) After hearing the last interview that I can remember Moby talking about his musical tastes I was afraid his top ten would include the Spice Girls and Puff Daddy!!! Are you still a big Spice Girls fan Moby? I'm sure you will get some good natured ribbing from me about that next time I see you :) SF and also Phoenix next week paul ps to Moby- thanks for wearing the Radio Free Underground shirt I gave you!!! Moby wrote: > hey damian, > i'm home for about 10 minutes between tour dates. > i saw that some of the 'mobility' members were > interested in my top 10 records. > off the top of my head, here they are: > 1-massive attack-protection > 2-julee cruise-floating into the night > 3-roxy music-first album > 4-kraftwerk-man machine > 5-nick drake-bryter layter > 6-bad brains-roir cassette > 7-tricky-maxinquaye > 8-joy division-closer > 9-prince-purple rain > 10-talking heads-fear of music > > it's a difficult task trying to think of a personal top 10, huh. > but at 3:30 in the morning those seem like honest choices. > -moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tribble Subject: Re: (mobility)recoil Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:02:43 -0700 I found this message and fell very strongly that I needed to reccommend this EP highly!!! If you like Recoil and Moby you won't be sorry you got this, it contains perhaps my favorite Recoil song ever "Conspiracy (Double Bullet) Theory" which I could swear Moby had a hand in because it sounds so much like what he was producing circa 1992. The Moby remix is excellent of course and just buy the darn thing and you will thank me! I've also been a big Depeche Mode fan since 1981 but I must admit I like Bloodline and Unsound Methods better than the last 2 or 3 DM albums by far. Of course DM tends to have really good remixes and maxi singles- not to downplay those. paul - hyponoise - wrote: > can anyone recomend the faith healer ep. i have the bloodlines and unsound > methods albums [ great stuff. for you who dont know recoil is alan wilder > ex-depeche mode and guest vocalists. the vocalists so far have been : toni > halliday, moby, dougles mccarthy, sibohan lynch, maggie estep, and hilda > campbell. good stuff imho ] anyway my delema is since the ep is out of print > its hard to find and i see prices for it up to $15. there is a moby remix > but i just dont know. > > -jason > n . p . r u [] b y . s [ a ] l t [peter] > www.mp3.com/wilt > "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tribble Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3 artists Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:04:34 -0700 This sounds like a good idea, I just have not gotten around to posting any songs on mp3.com yet. I'll keep your eamil around for when I have that done. paul - hyponoise - wrote: > just a thought : why dont all the mobility artists on mp3.com interlink out > sites. kind of a 'united moby fan front' or something like that. anyone > intersted send me your url so we can exchange links. > > -jason > n . p . nin / the day the world went away > www.mp3.com/wilt > "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) nonrelated: TRL etc. Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT) hey i just noticed on the MTV page on the Top 20enty list, the new BLUR video is #16ixteen! rock! so please request it at the TRL site! just voted for it 50ifty times!!! (i love this fast library computer!) its the best video in rotation on MTV! and of course, please tell them TO PUT SIFL AN OLLY BACK ON in the comments! and as tribute, say yr from Ohio like i always do!!! "Oh, we could start over again"-Damon Albarn (ROCK!) also, i got a new tape out if any1ne cares. its called "A Surgeon A Sargeant And A Baker" by Radical Of Genius. a wild mix of computer collages, actual songs that degenerate into mindless noiz, acoustic guitar noiz, S&O covers (including my cover of "Crescent Fresh Song from Season 2wo CFTP" to be on Bangin On Pots And Pans! plus a "Lazer Eyes" that drags into a 15ifteen minute improvisatin/interview times, etc.), interview with a guinea pig water bottle, TMBG covers (from the first album) etc.! the price is a tape, send me a mixtape or a dub of yr favorite album, or yr own muzik, or just a blank tape. 90inety minutes of corse. addy: Paul Simpson 12 Dadio Road Hamden, CT 06517 bye cres folkz!!! bye! === W W C D WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO?????? SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tribble Subject: (mobility) Moby live in SF Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:10:35 -0700 I am very exited about going to see Moby in SF on the 10th and then again in Phoenix on the 14th! (hi plov) I was wondering if anyone could post tracklists from the other shows because I'm very interested to see how much the setlist changes from show to show- I know on the last couple tours there were some exclusive surprises and the setlists varied fairly widely- I hope such is the case again. Has he done Thousand at all??? :) Last time I saw him in 97 I was so blown away by him doing "Why Can't It Stop?" that tune really makes it so you can't help but get your groove down and move! paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne N Thalheimer Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby live in SF Date: 03 Aug 1999 14:32:18 -0400 (EDT) hi--re: thousand--i thought moby'd been using it as a set closer & a decent excuse to leap up on the equipment--anyway, he did so in philly on the 28th of july. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:47:15 MST who said that moby sold out? i don't think moby'll ever sell out. he's not like that. mtv rarely plays him. or at least ive never seen them play moby. instead they are playing britney spears, BSB and nsync. they should get rid of those bands and play more moby he said that while he was seeing some girl ; ( once, he was working >out alot on his abs and when he flexed to show her his stomach, he >accidentally farted real loud. lmao i find that funny _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10"can someone tell me what they were, please? Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:50:09 MST hi i've been reading about moby's top ten a lot recently. but can someone please tell me what they were? i think i deleted the message tehy were in which really sucks. thanks -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:56:23 MST hi it's me again when i was reading through everyone's top ten lists i noticed a lot of you or some of you i should say had tori amos on there. anyway i was wondering which one of her records i should buy first? any suggestions? thanks -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tribble Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10"can someone tell me what they were, Date: 03 Aug 1999 11:48:26 -0700 check my msg from an hour ago- I quoted it paul also- has nayone made live recordings of any of the recent shows? I know someone who will be recording the SF show so I will have something to trade if anyone is interested I will have a copy of it soon after Derek ~ wrote: > hi > i've been reading about moby's top ten a lot recently. but can someone > please tell me what they were? i think i deleted the message tehy were in > which really sucks. > thanks > -derek > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 12:06:50 -0700 (PDT) tho you will hear different things from different fans, i think your best bet, for a first buy, would have to be her first album: 'little earthquakes'. if that grabs you... i would say buy in order that she released them-- i really find it interesting, the way her music has changed over the years. ---Derek ~ wrote:--- >hi it's me again >when i was reading through everyone's top ten lists i noticed a lot of you >or some of you i should say had tori amos on there. anyway i was wondering >which one of her records i should buy first? any suggestions? thanks >-derek #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Cerchiara" Subject: (mobility) Hartford Date: 03 Aug 1999 12:18:36 PDT Hey Puppy I was at the Hartford show also. It WAS REAL HOT!!! I was really pissed off that people where crowd serfing and moshing to techno!!! I got kicked in the face and stole the kids shoe. It's in my room kind of as a trophy. Well anyways not to slam him but out of the 4 times I've seen him that was the worst. There was no atmosphere there. One Cali band that was awesome and was on the same stage was Zebrahead. WOW!!!! I've seen them 3 times now and they get better every time. Also Shootyz Groove was great. JunkDrome _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: enegley1 Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby live in SF Date: 03 Aug 1999 15:23:16 -0400 I was at the show in Philly too, WOW! I thought I was going to explode with happiness the entire time. Does anyone know where Moby's playing in Buffalo 8/29?? Thanks Erin >===== Original Message From Anne N Thalheimer ===== >hi--re: thousand--i thought moby'd been using it as a set closer & a >decent excuse to leap up on the equipment--anyway, he did so in philly on >the 28th of july. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 12:56:04 -0700 i'll agree here.. each one of her albums is different. little earthquakes is good.. a little more mellow then her current, from the choirgirl hotel. her last two are a little more techno-ish in a sense.. her first two are more acoustic with some upbeat stuff in it. under the pink was the first album i purchased because i love her song "God" and i fell in love from there. also, she has some great dance singles that have been remixed. In the Springtime of his Voodoo was remixed by Vinny Vero and Steve Donato. The one i really really love is her Professional Window remix CD... great great mixes there! this CD was mixed by Armand Van Helden and MK. so.. those are some options. it all depends on what side u want to listen to first. plov -----Original Message----- > > >tho you will hear different things from different fans, i think your best bet, for a first buy, would have to be her first album: 'little earthquakes'. > >if that grabs you... i would say buy in order that she released them-- i really find it interesting, the way her music has changed over the years. > >---Derek ~ > wrote:--- >>hi it's me again >>when i was reading through everyone's top ten lists i noticed a lot of you >>or some of you i should say had tori amos on there. anyway i was wondering >>which one of her records i should buy first? any suggestions? thanks >>-derek > > >#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # > >find it amusing. fight the power. > > > > >________________________________________________________ ____ >Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) kid rock and icp suck Date: 03 Aug 1999 14:40:20 -0500 >i also think that ICP and kid rock both suck. icp isn't even music. just a >crap that gets airplay cuz it has goofy lyrics. Agreed. They also steal graphics for their CDs from other artists' CDs (like Moby's "Go"). Howard probably quoted Moby because he criticized ICP, who are (not surprisingly) some of Howard's friends. All I know about Kid Rock is that his band destroys two Technics 1200s in one of his videos. I saw that video about the same time I was paying about $350 for one, so naturally I was a bit irritated... -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: Re: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 16:16:20 EDT >when i was reading through everyone's top ten lists i noticed a lot of you >or some of you i should say had tori amos on there. anyway i was wondering >witch one i should buy. i like the new one music from the choir girl hotel. its spiff and is more filled in than most of her other albums. she has a new album coming out in a few weeks you might wan tto hold off for that one. its a studio album and a cd from her plugged in tour [ she had a whole backing band and they 'rocked out' ] -jason n . p . ritalin . bedside toxicology [ on the subject of indoostrail music this is ogre and martin atkins. not very industrail but i love this album. its hard to discribe since ive never heard an album like it ] www.mp3.com/wilt "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) way off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 14:13:28 -0700 (PDT) I'm w/ u... icp DOES kinda suck, but Kid Rock can be pretty cool... he may not be the most genious artist ever or anything, but his music's fun to listen to anyway Mandi --- Mobyee@aol.com wrote: > wow i can't believe i am saying this but i am > actually going to be supporting > kid rock, only because he old stuff is really > good...not only that but he is > is from detroit ~courtney~ > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #66 Date: 03 Aug 1999 14:19:27 -0700 (PDT) > by the way there is a tiny thing about moby in this > month's teen people > called "celebrity woes" where he describes one of > his most embarassing > moments. he said that while he was seeing some girl > ; ( once, he was working > out alot on his abs and when he flexed to show her > his stomach, he > accidentally farted real loud. he looks like a > priest in the picture, > nevertheless, adorable. LOL, i saw that too... finally someone non-retarded in that magazine! It's weird seeing moby in the same issue that has 98 degrees on the cover and is littered w/ pics of Bitchney Spears... uck Mandi _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 14:29:30 -0700 (PDT) > instead they are playing britney spears, BSB and > nsync. they should get rid > of those bands and play more moby Really! I mean, if it were just BSB i could deal... but the whole manufactured pop thing is starting to make me sick already... it's time for mtv to play some more REAL stuff... like moby!!! _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dan perry" Subject: Re: (mobility) recoil Date: 03 Aug 1999 16:52:07 -0500 (CDT) "- hyponoise -" wrote: > can anyone recomend the faith healer ep. i have the bloodlines and > unsound methods albums [ great stuff. for you who dont know recoil > is alan wilder ex-depeche mode and guest vocalists. the vocalists > so far have been : toni halliday, moby, dougles mccarthy, sibohan > lynch, maggie estep, and hilda campbell. good stuff imho ] anyway > my dilemma is since the ep is out of print its hard to find and i > see prices for it up to $15. there is a moby remix but i just dont > know. i think "deformity" is worth 10$ alone, but i have to admit the rest of the tracks didn't do much for me. then again, faith healer isn't really my favorite track on the album... are you sure you can't still get the CD directly from mute records? if not, i'm sure people on the list can keep an eye out for it. i think i saw it recently _somewhere_... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave \"DT007\" Toews" Subject: (mobility) Canadian Moby Stuff Date: 03 Aug 1999 18:53:38 -0300 I am a new Canadian Moby addict, and when I heard that Moby was going to be playing at Woodstock I got all mad because I knew that you needed to have pay per view to see anything.. But one day while I was watching "Canadas Music Station" Much Music, they had a long interview with him! And they showed the Rave at Wookstock where he played! I ALMOST ORGASIMED! And thnkfully I tapped it for all my other friends to see.. And after hearing that the people who got pay per view didnt even see him, made me even happier :D! Somtimes it is kinda kool to be Canadian! Also somthing caught me off guard the other day, BodyRock is on a new Lebatts Blue (Beer) Commertial up here!! They play BodyRock in the back-ground of a party for the whole 30 seconds.. And it rulez! Another reason to move to Canada! Anyway, just thought I would share :) DT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig J. Rasmussen" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 16:53:51 -0500 Yeah, that's what I'm talkin about. So far it's BSB here and Brittany Spears there. I mean, come on. Get some variety. LIKE MOBY +AD4APg- instead they are playing britney spears, BSB and +AD4APg- nsync. they should get rid +AD4APg- of those bands and play more moby +AD4- +AD4-Really+ACE- I mean, if it were just BSB i could deal... but the whole +AD4-manufactured pop thing is starting to make me sick already... it's time +AD4-for mtv to play some more REAL stuff... like moby+ACEAIQAh- +AD4AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXw- +AD4-Do You Yahoo+ACE-? +AD4-Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com +AD4- +AD4- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10"can someone tell me what they were, Date: 03 Aug 1999 17:00:02 -0500 I'm going to try to record the Dallas show... and maybe the kansas city and st. louis ones. Does anyone know of moby's opinion of bootlegging????????? perhaps moby himself could give us his opinion??????? :) ----rob Paul Tribble wrote: > > also- has nayone made live recordings of any of the recent > shows? I know someone who will be recording the > SF show so I will have something to trade if anyone > is interested I will have a copy of it soon after > <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) yea-- it totally depends on what you're into-- acoustic or techno... but all her stuff is good, in my humble opinion... :) ---Michaela Gerstner wrote:--- >i'll agree here.. each one of her albums is different. little earthquakes >is good.. a little more mellow then her current, from the choirgirl hotel. >her last two are a little more techno-ish in a sense.. her first two are >more acoustic with some upbeat stuff in it. under the pink was the first >album i purchased because i love her song "God" and i fell in love from >there. > >also, she has some great dance singles that have been remixed. In the >Springtime of his Voodoo was remixed by Vinny Vero and Steve Donato. The >one i really really love is her Professional Window remix CD... great great >mixes there! this CD was mixed by Armand Van Helden and MK. > >so.. those are some options. it all depends on what side u want to listen >to first. > >plov > #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jedi/Sector One Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3 artists Date: 04 Aug 1999 00:41:16 +0200 "- hyponoise -" wrote : > Subject: (mobility) mp3 artists > just a thought : why dont all the mobility artists on mp3.com interlink out > sites. kind of a 'united moby fan front' or something like that. anyone > intersted send me your url so we can exchange links. Yes ! Check that URL : http://www.mp3.com/chrysalis some Moby remixes are here. -- Standard C Programming language is now ISO C9X ! Frank DENIS aka Jedi/Sector One ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 15:45:29 MST i totally agree. and what's really irritating is that's the only music they ever play. you finally got the name for the type of bands like them and i like it. manufactured pop. just what britney spears, BSB, nsync and spice girls are you know i have never seen any of moby's videos. are they good? well actually i saw a real crappy 'real video' download of one so i couldn't really see what was going on. >the whole >manufactured pop thing is starting to make me sick already... it's time >for mtv to play some more REAL stuff... like moby!!! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 15:50:28 MST ok cool i will have to check out some of her records. now is it her newer ones that are more techno? you know which song is really cool that she did? blue skies. well actually BT did the song but it featured tori amos. that song kicks ass! >yea-- it totally depends on what you're into-- acoustic or techno... but >all her stuff is good, in my humble opinion... :) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) HOB tomorrow Date: 03 Aug 1999 16:10:21 -0700 (PDT) House Of Blues MOBY audiocast thingy hob.com/live tomorrow at 9ine pm or so.... fuck all this crap about Moby selling out. this person that emailed me kept saying that MTV played the REVOLVER vid NON-FRIGGIN-STOP and I think he's off his rocker. some other person said that their local rock station plays Bodyrock, what are you talking about? He's on the radio, he's famous. Any1ne who can say that does not own PLAY thats for sure. and of course the person was like "isn't that a Montell Jordan sample or sumthin?" uh, try Spoonie Gee? I mean, its not like we're dealing with Puff Daddy or anything. of course, the way you guys just...don't...get Sifl & Olly, well they just...don't....get MOBY. did i say that already? sorry. i think i didn't say it here. ohyeah, DONT READ THE NEW RAYGUN MAGAZINE, it has an article about how MTV sux, and it points its long sharp crusty metal fingers straight at S&O, even showing their pictures and crap! it sez like "how can these people film the show and not turn and look at each other and say 'dude, that is just not funny'?" what the hell!?!?!?!?!? of course, Liam (Olly) emailed in and said "who cares if they got a raygun? we've got laser eyes!" woohoo! oh well I guess I'll just have to remind myself that folks have differing opinions and theres nuthin you can do about it but ignore every1ne and keep thinking yr rock-ass thoughts. "I got laser eyes, and I know what you're thinking, it comes as no surprise, Christmas lights are blinking, and I'm so curious and I'm so curious and I'm so curious and I got laser eyes HEY!!!!!!!" a very very very MEGA-kresss song by S&O === W W C D WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO?????? SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 03 Aug 1999 16:28:15 -0700 yeah.. blue skies is great. since u like blue skies, try and find that professional window import remix i mentioned.. just like it!! her newer albums are more techno-ish, especially choirgirl... plov -----Original Message----- >ok cool i will have to check out some of her records. now is it her newer >ones that are more techno? you know which song is really cool that she did? >blue skies. well actually BT did the song but it featured tori amos. that >song kicks ass! > > > >>yea-- it totally depends on what you're into-- acoustic or techno... but >>all her stuff is good, in my humble opinion... :) > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "krwilson" Subject: (mobility) Off-topic YOU DIE! (and minneapolis) Date: 03 Aug 1999 19:42:19 -0600 OFF TOPIC YOU DIE! (or at least you feel a bit guilty) Also- does anyone know concretely if Moby's show in Minneapolis is 21+ or not? If so I need a fake id which is $20 and I don't wanna get it unneccesarily. Thanks. MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 18:16:47 -0700 (PDT) > you know i have never seen any of moby's videos. are > they good? well > actually i saw a real crappy 'real video' download > of one so i couldn't > really see what was going on. I know, same here! I think i saw the same one, and rv sux because it's usually all blurry... grrr.... i wish i could work at mtv and change everything around... _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) HOB tomorrow Date: 03 Aug 1999 18:39:02 MST you said it man >fuck all this crap about Moby selling out. this person >that emailed me kept saying that MTV played the >REVOLVER vid NON-FRIGGIN-STOP and I think he's off his >rocker. some other person said that their local rock >station plays Bodyrock, what are you talking about? >He's on the radio, he's famous. Any1ne who can say >that does not own PLAY thats > for sure. and of course the person was like "isn't >that a Montell Jordan sample or sumthin?" uh, try >Spoonie Gee? I mean, its not like we're dealing with >Puff Daddy or anything. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 18:49:20 MST real video and real audio are awful formats. i hate them. you can't hear anything with real audio and when you can it always gets interupted because of rebuffering. then real video is all small and you can't see. and it's real choppy so it's liek watching a real bad stop motion animation movie if i worked at mtv i would fire half of those stupid ass vjs and get real cool ones. like everyone on the mobility list would run mtv. then we could all play really good videos like moby, chemical brothers,smashing pumpkins, nin, and whatever the hell else we want. i say we should try to take over mtv someday. or hold a protest and tell them to stop playing shit like BSB, britney spears and other shit like that and ply some decent music. thanks -derek >I know, same here! I think i saw the same one, and rv sux because it's >usually all blurry... grrr.... i wish i could work at mtv and change >everything around... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) Off-topic YOU DIE! (and minneapolis) Date: 03 Aug 1999 19:37:26 -0700 (PDT) feh feh feh. >OFF TOPIC YOU DIE! (or at least you feel a bit guilty) #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 19:54:31 -0700 (PDT) > if i worked at mtv i would fire half of those stupid > ass vjs and get real > cool ones. like everyone on the mobility list would > run mtv. then we could > all play really good videos like moby, chemical > brothers,smashing pumpkins, > nin, and whatever the hell else we want. i say we > should try to take over > mtv someday. or hold a protest and tell them to stop > playing shit like BSB, > britney spears and other shit like that and ply some > decent music. That would be sweet... maybe we should start a campaign to take over mtv...lol... mtv = mobility television!! that would kick so much ass... we can only dream, though. :( _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 22:06:54 -0500 > > That would be sweet... maybe we should start a campaign to take over > mtv...lol... mtv = mobility television!! that would kick so much > ass... we can only dream, though. :( > a campaign? Hell no! Terrorist invasion! I can see the CNN announcement now... "In a shocking development today, scores of armed Moby fans stormed the broadcasting studio of MTV, declaring martial law. Their first act was to order the death sentence for Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys and to play a Moby video marathon. It is not known at this time if President Clinton will be deploying the armed forces to liberate the studio." Now THAT'S a dream! Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: (mobility) 'sell out! with me oh yea!' Date: 03 Aug 1999 20:09:03 -0700 (PDT) mmmkay--- well, in ref to the below, i'd just like to say... if, say, moby became a heavy rotationer on mtv and started making a helluva lot of money for it, i don't really think that means that he sold out- it just means that mtv got him a bigger audience that likes what he's doing, likes his music-- and that's success, man! i have a lot of faith in the fact (backed up by his outspokenness and certain albums/tracks that don't fit whatever mold someone might want to put him in) that moby is going to do what he wants to, say what he wants to, write what he wants to... now if 'mtv' success or 'radio' success comes along with that, hell i'll applaud that-- cause goodness knows, he deserves success! it just means that a lot of people out there have, in my opinion, good taste! selling out, to me, is when a band/artist starts writing pop-ee tunes that some record company has told him/her/them will sell lots of albums. again, i really don't think this is something i'm gonna have to worry about. i also just want to say that i think a mailing list like this where he's talked about for years on end is testament to moby's success as an artist! my congrats extended! --J ps-- so yes, i agree that all this sellout nonsense is v. misplaced. how did this conversation start anyway? >fuck all this crap about Moby selling out. this person >that emailed me kept saying that MTV played the >REVOLVER vid NON-FRIGGIN-STOP and I think he's off his >rocker. some other person said that their local rock >station plays Bodyrock, what are you talking about? >He's on the radio, he's famous. Any1ne who can say >that does not own PLAY thats > for sure. and of course the person was like "isn't >that a Montell Jordan sample or sumthin?" uh, try >Spoonie Gee? I mean, its not like we're dealing with >Puff Daddy or anything. #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby on "house of blues" Date: 03 Aug 1999 23:21:59 EDT moby will be performing live at the "house of blues" radio station which will be broadcasted over the web @ 6:30 pm (PT) wed 8/4. animal lib, consider veganism. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 21:04:00 -0700 (PDT) LOL... that's EXACTLY the way it should go too... and u can't forget to get rid of N'Stink, too... You need to be on the news or something, that almost sounded real!!! > a campaign? Hell no! Terrorist invasion! I can see > the CNN announcement > now... "In a shocking development today, scores of > armed Moby fans stormed > the broadcasting studio of MTV, declaring martial > law. Their first act was > to order the death sentence for Britney Spears and > the Backstreet Boys and > to play a Moby video marathon. It is not known at > this time if President > Clinton will be deploying the armed forces to > liberate the studio." > > Now THAT'S a dream! > > Buckoe > > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david j bass Subject: (mobility) Sifl and olly Date: 03 Aug 1999 22:55:49 -0500 Hey Paul, do you watch Space ghost coast to coast, or Cartoon planet? Just curious, somehow I think you'd like them. Dave ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 22:06:50 MST if i was old enough to drive and lived by myself i would start the campaign but i have about 4 years before i can move out of my house so maybe in the meantime we can start planning... >mtv = mobility television!! that would kick so much >ass... we can only dream, though. :( _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on "house of blues" Date: 03 Aug 1999 22:13:51 MST hey would you mind telling me the address i can listen to that broadcast? i would really appreciate it thanks >moby will be performing live at the "house of blues" radio station which >will >be broadcasted over the web @ 6:30 pm (PT) wed 8/4. > >animal lib, consider veganism. > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 03 Aug 1999 22:11:53 MST clinton's armed forces couldn't do shit to us moby fans! we would wipe them out! somehow we would. yeah definately death sentence to britney spears and BSB but you forgot to throw in nsync. but you see we're not terrorists we're out to play good good music videos. we would really be doing good to the world of MTV. we would become heroes! yeah!!!! >a campaign? Hell no! Terrorist invasion! I can see the CNN announcement >now... "In a shocking development today, scores of armed Moby fans stormed >the broadcasting studio of MTV, declaring martial law. Their first act was >to order the death sentence for Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys and >to play a Moby video marathon. It is not known at this time if President >Clinton will be deploying the armed forces to liberate the studio." > >Now THAT'S a dream! > >Buckoe > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Batty" Subject: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 05:45:32 GMT >the whole >manufactured pop thing is starting to make me sick already... it's time >for mtv to play some more REAL stuff... like moby!!! It's interesting that you say that. Moby is my favorite musical artist right now, and I think Play is one of his best albums, but once in a while he does something that really suggests that, whether or not his music is superior, he wants to appeal to and produce work for the Britney Spears/Pepsi-pop demographic. I like the song "Bodyrock" a lot, but it is totally an attempt to appeal to a post-Fatboy Slim pop culture landscape. Even more obvious is "South Side". It's the weakest, worst song on Play, in my opinion... although I've gotta admit the tune is pretty damn catchy. But it is so incredibly engineered for the summer-single/Live 105/MTV Woodstock '99 set that it's almost the most apparent signal of a man trying desperately to break through to a wider audience by imitating the scene around him. Fortunately, Moby hasn't abandoned his individual musical art, because even though Play features tracks like Bodyrock and South Side, the majority of it is comprised of highly personal, emotional, contemplative tracks that transcend the work produced even by Moby's peers. This is why he continues to be the best. One of the reasons I like Moby so much is because although he seems to understand the Rock-star process of the deification of the artist... he allows that status to drop when not performing. When he talks about his opinions, when he gives interviews, he sometimes says things that I disagree with... but he is willing to admit he doesn't know everything, and he is also willing to change his mind, and THAT I respect almost even more than his music. He understands himself to be human, and not a distanced ARTIST, and by this understanding his flaws are sometimes revealed. One of those human pulls is the pull of celebrity. Part of him wants to be Mick Jagger. I guess the main point is that, while he produces his individual musical artwork, Moby is also trying to appeal to a more mainstream audience, and in order to do that, he is appearing on Politically Incorrect, he is appearing on Loveline, he is appearing on Conan O'Brien, and he is writing songs like Bodyrock and South Side. I'm not saying it's bad or wrong, I'm just saying that that is what he is doing. And therefore by saying that you're sick of the manufactured pop scene (I am too, believe me), you are essentially saying that you are sick of the same scene of which Moby is attempting to be a part. So what makes Moby any more REAL than the Backstreet Boys or 98°? The fact that we prefer his music? I think that's about it. Peace out, Dan Lee _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) Off-topic YOU DIE! (and minneapolis) Date: 04 Aug 1999 01:01:57 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, krwilson wrote: > Also- does anyone know concretely if Moby's show in Minneapolis is 21+ or > not? If so I need a fake id which is $20 and I don't wanna get it > unneccesarily. Thanks. yo mo, i'm still working on getting the id show changed to AA. i talked to his management on thursday and they were VERY PISSED this it was being promoted as a 21+ show. (i could hear them yealing and swearing in the background) so it looks like it will be changed. i will let everyone know for sure the minute i know. remember dude, you have tickets already! later, -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) Off-topic YOU DIE! (and minneapolis) Date: 04 Aug 1999 01:01:57 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, krwilson wrote: > Also- does anyone know concretely if Moby's show in Minneapolis is 21+ or > not? If so I need a fake id which is $20 and I don't wanna get it > unneccesarily. Thanks. yo mo, i'm still working on getting the id show changed to AA. i talked to his management on thursday and they were VERY PISSED this it was being promoted as a 21+ show. (i could hear them yealing and swearing in the background) so it looks like it will be changed. i will let everyone know for sure the minute i know. remember dude, you have tickets already! later, -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 00:26:30 MST boy i'm gonna have to let that sink in for a bit then read it again man -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 03:03:44 -0500 I'm going to start off by saying that I agree with you, Roy, as a whole, but felt I had to refute a couple of points... > It's interesting that you say that. Moby is my favorite musical artist right > now, and I think Play is one of his best albums, but once in a while he does > something that really suggests that, whether or not his music is superior, > he wants to appeal to and produce work for the Britney Spears/Pepsi-pop > demographic. > > I like the song "Bodyrock" a lot, but it is totally an attempt to appeal to > a post-Fatboy Slim pop culture landscape. > Even more obvious is "South Side". It's the weakest, worst song on Play, in > my opinion... although I've gotta admit the tune is pretty damn catchy. But > it is so incredibly engineered for the summer-single/Live 105/MTV Woodstock > '99 set that it's almost the most apparent signal of a man trying > desperately to break through to a wider audience by imitating the scene > around him. Part of the problem I have with the above is it assume a greater deal of calculation then I believe actually exists....I certainly agree that Bodyrock sounds very 'of the moment' , but just because of piece of music is timely, that doesn't necessarily make it a conscious attempt to emulate styles, or to market to a particular demographic...I find it much more likely to believe that Moby was influenced by the current musical climate while he was recording Play then that he sat down and listened to the current singles and plotted out a song as a direct line of attack... The other part is, even if it is an attempt to widen his success...the 'Britney Spears/Pepsipop' audience? Come on! Give us and him some credit...that audience is 14 year old girls, and I hardly think that would be his target if that was what he was doing... > One of the reasons I like Moby so much is because although he seems to > understand the Rock-star process of the deification of the artist... he > allows that status to drop when not performing. When he talks about his > opinions, when he gives interviews, he sometimes says things that I disagree > with... but he is willing to admit he doesn't know everything, and he is > also willing to change his mind, and THAT I respect almost even more than > his music. Now I'm gonna jump the fence here...Didn't you see his Politically Incorrect appearance? Arguing with Maher about his enlightement...I would hardly call him a modest man > I guess the main point is that, while he produces his individual musical > artwork, Moby is also trying to appeal to a more mainstream audience, and in > order to do that, he is appearing on Politically Incorrect, he is appearing > on Loveline, he is appearing on Conan O'Brien, and he is writing songs like > Bodyrock and South Side. I'm not saying it's bad or wrong, I'm just saying > that that is what he is doing. well, see, that's my main problem with the whole 'selling out' concept...people draw the line in the wrong place, I believe...going on television to promote his album is not selling out, it's doing his job...selling out is when your art is directly influenced by the potential money you're gonna make, or the money you've made..which as I've said before I don't think is the case with BR or SS... >And therefore by saying that you're sick of > the manufactured pop scene (I am too, believe me), you are essentially > saying that you are sick of the same scene of which Moby is attempting to be > a part. One last jump here I think the phrase 'manufactured pop scene' doesn't even have to refer to a particularly music style or anything, but the current musical climate of a few large corporations realeasing more than 80% of the music out there, and the radio stations and MTV not looking further to find what to play...So if you're on a major label, and you're getting airplay, you're part of the manufactured pop scene, no matter how good your music is, or how inventive... > So what makes Moby any more REAL than the Backstreet Boys or 98°? The fact > that we prefer his music? I think that's about it. > I think, if pressed, I could make a good argument for the fact that that statement is not true...I mean Moby can be credited with creation of something new and original that has had a dramatic influence on the music scene of the '90s (even if you don't necessarily hear it on the radio)..where as Backstreet Boys and 98 are simply products to cash in on a long trend that started before the beatles and will be around when we're all old men (and women)...sugar-coated pop released by pin-up stars for adolescent consumption---nothing new conceptually or musically...although I did bring up an interesting thought...we've already thought about armed Moby terrorists...what about old retired Moby fans? ("In my days it was enough for a little bald man to get up there and shake his ass...we didn't need any of these virtual rock stars, and their time travel shows...kids today"...sorry, don't know what happened to me there) Well...whew...that was a long and rambling post....hope somebody stayed around to read it... Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Redmond Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 03:43:12 -0600 This is a mishmash reply to two posts at once, so I apologise in advance..... >Part of the problem I have with the above is it assume a greater deal of >calculation then I believe actually exists....I certainly agree that Bodyrock sounds very 'of the moment' , but just because of piece of >music is timely, that doesn't necessarily make it a conscious attempt to emulate >styles, or to market to a particular demographic...I find it much more likely to believe that Moby was influenced by the current musical >climate while he was recording Play then that he sat down and listened to the current singles and plotted out a song as a direct line of attack... I remember reading somewhere (maybe it was here?) that the songs from "Play" were recorded over the last two years. I'd be interested to find out when Bodyrock was created, approximately. The big thing here is influence - who drew influence from where. Did Moby draw influence from FBS/Chemical Bros./Crystal Method/etc., or did he draw his main influence for the song from the original recording he sampled? My thought is that it was both modern-influenced and 70's-influenced. Moby himself has proven to be a very complex individual, perhaps he is expressing that complexity once more? >The other part is, even if it is an attempt to widen his success...the 'Britney Spears/Pepsipop' audience? Come on! Give us and him some >credit...that audience is 14 year old girls, and I hardly think that would be his target if that was what he was doing... How many 14-year olds even know who Moby is? before i get flamed, let me explain. figure that there's about 250 million people in the USA, with ages ranging from 1 second old to 107+ years old. There are approximately 250 people or so on this mailing list, plus maybe , let's say 10 million people who've heard OF him or like his music, but not as fanatically as we like it. this gives a ratio of 4% of the USA population that at least knows of Moby. Now look at N'Sync, who are practically owned by Disney. It's probably safe to say that at least 65% of the USA has heard of them. Why? Because some businessman decided to build a band of boys and market them to the 'Britney Spears/Pepsipop' audience. Moby isn't being promoted to that audience. Unfortunately, MTV tends to aim to that audience, so it all adds up to high exposure for N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, and Britney Spears (who don't actually play instruments, just dance, sing what they are told to sing, and look cute), and low exposure for Moby, and Blur (who (let's face it) aren't the best things to look at, but are some of the best musicians in the 1990's) >> One of the reasons I like Moby so much is because although he seems to >> understand the Rock-star process of the deification of the artist... he >> allows that status to drop when not performing. When he talks about his >> opinions, when he gives interviews, he sometimes says things that I disagree >> with... but he is willing to admit he doesn't know everything, and he is >> also willing to change his mind, and THAT I respect almost even more than >> his music. This is the hallmark of an enlightened individual - one who can admit that his (or her) opinion isn't the best one. Someone that can admit they are wrong rather than claiming that they know exactly what is right due to the fact that they are famous and that all of us know-nothing peasants are idiots. it is nice to see someone that is famous, yet humble enough to admit being wrong at times, to admit that they are human. >well, see, that's my main problem with the whole 'selling out' concept...people draw the line in the wrong place, I believe...going >on television to promote his album is not selling out, it's doing his job...selling out is when your art is directly influenced by the >potential money you're gonna make, or the money you've made..which as I've said before >I don't think is the case with BR or SS... What everything in this world comes down to is that one has got to put food on the table. True, some "artists" have been making their music only to reap the monetary benefits they will recieve. However, the majority of musicians out there in this little world of ours write/record/play music for the music's sake. I'm not going to say that a true musician writes and records for the love of music, but i will say that a sellout musician writes for the monetary reward at the end of the MTV rainbow. >One last jump here I think the phrase 'manufactured pop scene' doesn't even have to refer to a particularly music style or anything, >but the current musical climate of a few large corporations realeasing more than 80% of the music out there, and the radio stations and MTV not looking >further to find what to play...So if you're on a major label, and you're getting airplay, you're part of the manufactured pop scene, no matter >how good your music is, or how inventive... I disagree here. I view "manufactued pop scene" and I see 98 Degrees, N'Sync, and to a further extent, Korn and Limp Bizkit. To me, manufactured pop is music that is written either for shock value (in the cases of Korn and Limp Bizkit) or schlock value (in the case of N'Sync and 98 degrees). manufactured pop has only one goal - to make the artists huge piles of money and to hell with wether or not the fans actually notice the song that was just released sounds just like the last six songs the artist released last month; whereas the "nonmanufactured" music scene artist writes songs that actually sound different from one another. Look at it this way, you can definitely tell Bodyrock apart from South Side, can't you? >> So what makes Moby any more REAL than the Backstreet Boys or 98°? The fact that we prefer his music? I think that's about it. Perhaps the fact that Moby actually had a hand in creating his music??? >Well...whew...that was a long and rambling post....hope somebody stayed around to read it... at least one person did, I'm hoping someone else shows me the same courtesy. It's been a while since i did some reasoned discourse....how'd i do? daniel The funniest thing about watching the Fox Woodstock 99 recap was that, during the Kid Rock segment, you missed half the song because he was too busy saying "F---- this, F---- that!" ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 04:54:10 -0500 > I disagree here. I view "manufactued pop scene" and I see 98 Degrees, > N'Sync, and to a further extent, Korn and Limp Bizkit. To me, > manufactured pop is music that is written either for shock value (in the > cases of Korn and Limp Bizkit) or schlock value (in the case of N'Sync > and 98 degrees). manufactured pop has only one goal - to make the > artists huge piles of money and to hell with wether or not the fans > actually notice the song that was just released sounds just like the last > six songs the artist released last month; whereas the "nonmanufactured" > music scene artist writes songs that actually sound different from one > another. Look at it this way, you can definitely tell Bodyrock apart > from South Side, can't you? > you're right..I wasn't real clear...I didn't mean to imply that if you're on a major label than you can immediately be labled manufactured pop, but that once you're music is part of a corporation, you and your CD will be fed into that machine...whether or not you are an innovator/artist or a piece of today's pop, you're still part of the process... Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) better late than never Date: 04 Aug 1999 05:15:10 -0500 I know it's pretty much all been talked about, but what the hell... MY TOP 10 (excluding Moby) 1.Nine Inch Nails-everything that has been done by Mr. Reznor If I were to pick one of NIN's albums it would be the Downward Spiral. I look at all of Reznor's work as a whole, though. Much the same way that you would look at an artist like Andy Warhol(sp?). You could say that about amy musicians but I think it holds very true in this case. 2.STP-all of their work I absolutely love Scott Weiland. Don't know why. The band is great and I'm very happy to hear they are back in the studio again. Core was my fav album for a long time. 3.Prodigy-Music for the Jilted Generation First Prodigy album I ever owned. First time I heard them or heard of them. The mix of techno and heavy guitar is awsome. 4.Future Sound of London-Dead Cities (special limited edition) Bought the limited edition cd that came with a 196-page book of digital art. The only ambient cd I truely love. The digital art book beautifully compliments it. FSOL's vision of the future is unsettling and beuatiful at the same time. 5.Underworld-Beaucoup Fish In my opinion, the best Underworld album to date. The Born Slippy EP is right up there with it, though. 6.Daft Punk-Homework 7.Chemical Brothers-Dig Your Own Hole 8.Crystal Method-Vegas 9.Tricky-Pre-Millennium Tension 10.Fatboy Slim-Better Living Through Chemistry Strange. I didn't realize how much techno was going too end up in this until I look back now. Tim Spin magazine on the Pope: "A lot of praya-hataz say the Pontiff's fallen off, though he still loves it when you call him Big Papa." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) Minneapolis Moby concert 21+ Date: 04 Aug 1999 05:28:37 -0500 >Also- does anyone know concretely if Moby's show in Minneapolis is 21+ or >not? If so I need a fake id which is $20 and I don't wanna get it >unneccesarily. Thanks. Better spend that $20. It says 21+ on First Avenue's website (www.first-avenue.com) and on the tickets I have. In case you haven't got your tickets yet I just thought I'd let you know that if you get them through ticketmaster they are still only $13. Not bad for seeing one of the greatest musicians of out time. Aug. 23rd seems like years away. Something else I just thought of: 1st Ave.'s website says that the concert starts at 8p.m. while the tickets say 9:30p.m. Can anyone clear this up? Xaq, you're going to the show, do you know anything about this? I plan on being there for the 8p.m. time. The last thing I want to do is end up getting there late. I want to be right up front for the whole thing. Tim Spin magazine on the Pope: "A lot of praya-hataz say the Pontiff's fallen off, though he still loves it when you call him Big Papa." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) S&0, MTV, and Moby Date: 04 Aug 1999 05:46:27 -0500 >of course, the way you guys just...don't...get Sifl & >Olly, well they just...don't....get MOBY. did i say >that already? sorry. i think i didn't say it here. Hey Paul, some of us love Sifl & Olly too. I remember seeing the advertisements for the first time on MTV before the first S&O was aired. It looked absolutely awsome and when I saw that show I immediately fell in love. I hadn't laughed that hard in a long time. Just letting you know that there are other people on this list who "feel your pain". Seems like MTV cuts out all the good stuff. But it's MTV. S&O, AMP, early B&B, Liquid Televison, Aeon Flux, the State: all quality that was taken off because MTV is more concerned about ratings. I wish I got M2. I have watched that some and it's better than the original. They probably show some Moby now and then. More than MTV, anyway. Anybody see that they bumped AMP off the other night? I wonder why that was. It was listed to be on but 120 minutes was an hour behind. To those of you who emailed me about the Moby vidcap performances that I was going to post on the web ('97 Viva Variety, and the recent Conan O'brien) I apologize for not having that up yet. My vidcap software is being very disagreeable right now and I'm trying to fix the problem. I'll let you know when I get them up. Tim Spin magazine on the Pope: "A lot of praya-hataz say the Pontiff's fallen off, though he still loves it when you call him Big Papa." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) better late than never Date: 04 Aug 1999 05:15:10 -0500 I know it's pretty much all been talked about, but what the hell... MY TOP 10 (excluding Moby) 1.Nine Inch Nails-everything that has been done by Mr. Reznor If I were to pick one of NIN's albums it would be the Downward Spiral. I look at all of Reznor's work as a whole, though. Much the same way that you would look at an artist like Andy Warhol(sp?). You could say that about amy musicians but I think it holds very true in this case. 2.STP-all of their work I absolutely love Scott Weiland. Don't know why. The band is great and I'm very happy to hear they are back in the studio again. Core was my fav album for a long time. 3.Prodigy-Music for the Jilted Generation First Prodigy album I ever owned. First time I heard them or heard of them. The mix of techno and heavy guitar is awsome. 4.Future Sound of London-Dead Cities (special limited edition) Bought the limited edition cd that came with a 196-page book of digital art. The only ambient cd I truely love. The digital art book beautifully compliments it. FSOL's vision of the future is unsettling and beuatiful at the same time. 5.Underworld-Beaucoup Fish In my opinion, the best Underworld album to date. The Born Slippy EP is right up there with it, though. 6.Daft Punk-Homework 7.Chemical Brothers-Dig Your Own Hole 8.Crystal Method-Vegas 9.Tricky-Pre-Millennium Tension 10.Fatboy Slim-Better Living Through Chemistry Strange. I didn't realize how much techno was going too end up in this until I look back now. Tim Spin magazine on the Pope: "A lot of praya-hataz say the Pontiff's fallen off, though he still loves it when you call him Big Papa." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom Cerchiara" Subject: (mobility) Moby Video Date: 04 Aug 1999 05:48:55 PDT Moby's videos are really good. "revolver" did get a fair amount of play on 120min but that was all. I have seen a few of his other videos on amp and late night but certainly not in heavy rotation. "Run On" is on quite a bit on M2 which is real kewl. There are a lot on real vid which is not bad if you have a network connection. "Raving is not a crime, it's a way if life" JunkDrome _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: (mobility) shortened vers comment of the long post Date: 04 Aug 1999 05:54:02 -0700 (PDT) >>well, see, that's my main problem with the whole 'selling out' >concept...people draw the line in the wrong place, I believe...going >>on television to promote his album is not selling out, it's doing his >job...selling out is when your art is directly influenced by the >>potential money you're gonna make, or the money you've made..which as >I've said before >>I don't think is the case with BR or SS... > >What everything in this world comes down to is that one has got to put >food on the table. True, some "artists" have been making their music >only to reap the monetary benefits they will recieve. However, the >majority of musicians out there in this little world of ours >write/record/play music for the music's sake. I'm not going to say that >a true musician writes and records for the love of music, but i will say >that a sellout musician writes for the monetary reward at the end of the >MTV rainbow. quick comment: yeh-- if you chose to make music as a career, you have to produce a desired product, otherwise you're gonna be living on the streets-- and then, what does it matter if 'you're being true to the music' cause no one's gonna listen to you anyway. so, in my opinion, by the definition we've given it, chosing music as a career is selling out. besides, even the great musicians, beethoven, mozart, etc etc had to write for the mainstream to finance the music they wrote for themselves... though i kinda get the feel that the 'bad selling out' we are circling here is the, what did we call it... umm... 'something pepsi-pop'? i don't remember. i agree with that, but selling out really isn't necessarily bad. #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MAGNUS, JAYSON G" Subject: (mobility) Andy Davies come on down!!! Date: 04 Aug 1999 09:09:53 -0400 Andy!? You out there? I've been trying to get ahold of you. I found and bought the UK BodyRock single (one with Sunspot & Arp on it) for ya. I need your address again so I can mail it. I assume you haven't been able to find it. - Jayson jgmagnus@bkb.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 04 Aug 1999 06:20:13 -0700 (PDT) okay-- i'd just like to say that i think it's funny and a bit weird that we've gone from talking about 'moby's abs' (note the subject) to killing off bs and bsb etc. and storming mtv studios... ha. okay-- i'm done now. --J ---Derek ~ wrote:--- > > > >clinton's armed forces couldn't do shit to us moby fans! we would wipe them >out! somehow we would. yeah definately death sentence to britney spears and >BSB but you forgot to throw in nsync. but you see we're not terrorists we're >out to play good good music videos. we would really be doing good to the >world of MTV. we would become heroes! yeah!!!! > > >>a campaign? Hell no! Terrorist invasion! I can see the CNN announcement >>now... "In a shocking development today, scores of armed Moby fans stormed >>the broadcasting studio of MTV, declaring martial law. Their first act was >>to order the death sentence for Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys and >>to play a Moby video marathon. It is not known at this time if President >>Clinton will be deploying the armed forces to liberate the studio." >> >>Now THAT'S a dream! >> >>Buckoe >> >> > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 06:36:36 PDT I was seriously beginning to wonder if this was still a Moby list! Please try to keep the off-topic stuff to a minimum, please, and reply to non-Moby stuff off-list so the Tori Amos conversations can take place among those who are discussing it, for instance. >From: "Roy Batty" >he wants to appeal to and produce work for the Britney Spears/Pepsi-pop >ndemographic. > >I like the song "Bodyrock" a lot, but it is totally an attempt to appeal to >a post-Fatboy Slim pop culture landscape. Even more >obvious is "South >Side". It's the weakest, worst song on Play, in my opinion... although I've >gotta admit the tune is pretty >damn catchy. But it is so incredibly >engineered for the summer->single/Live 105/MTV Woodstock '99 set that it's >almost the most >apparent signal of a man trying desperately to break >through to a >wider audience by imitating the scene >around him. I disagree. Moby was widely criticized for Animal Rights. He explained that he makes music that he likes, to please himself. At the time, it was thrashy punk. My point is, Moby's never catered to corporate thinking nor any radio-friendliness. He makes music on his terms, only. The fact that Animal Rights came when 'electronica' was getting media attention was a coincidence that worked against Moby. The first day I joined this list, the fact that Moby liked the Spice Girls' music was brought up. Moby likes pop music. Cheesy, manufactured, sugar-coated demographic-molded plastic music. He made lots of pop songs for Play that didn't make the cut. (I think I read this in an interview) Moby makes pop songs because he likes pop songs. They are still his compositions, despite the fact that their pop-ness is making you equate them and Moby with Spice Girls behavior. Another way that Moby is different from other musicians is that he doesn't fuel any rock star mystery about himself. To me he doesn't seem like some high up impossibly far away rock star, but instead like a cool guy that could easily be my friend. You're looking for a deviousness and calculatedness that simply aren't there. You're not giving him enought credit. Give Moby more personal & professional credit, mmmkay? He deserves it. -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) WARNING: semi-disgruntled worker Date: 04 Aug 1999 08:45:00 -0400 it is a law in California that all Lawyers must use 100% recycled paper. Hope this helps. - Jayson -----Original Message----- and even tho the paper is being recycled, that doesn't really matter much-- the majority of paper used in the us comes straight from the tree, not the recycling center (okay, i think the former was a fact, but i have no idea of its accuracy, so if you know better feel free to dispute me). and what is made of recycled material usually is not entirely post consumer recycled-- (note your cereal boxes-- 40% post-consumer waste/recycled material means only 40% of the box is made from what we throw in our big blue bins). goodness knows, we don't use any recycled paper here! :( -- J ps-- arg! someone just asked me if i'd 'please make seven copies of this document?' talk about timing... #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) sorry this is a bit off topic Date: 04 Aug 1999 08:53:00 -0400 buy her first album "Little Earthquakes" -Jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:56 AM hi it's me again when i was reading through everyone's top ten lists i noticed a lot of you or some of you i should say had tori amos on there. anyway i was wondering which one of her records i should buy first? any suggestions? thanks -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) kid rock and icp suck Date: 04 Aug 1999 08:56:00 -0400 OK, I'm dating myself here but: Who the hell is "Kid Rock"? I know who the "Kid ad Rock" is from the Beastie Boys but I don't think you're talking about the Beasties. Looks like this "Kid Rock" character just stole the name from the Beasties to me ... - jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 2:40 PM >i also think that ICP and kid rock both suck. icp isn't even music. just a >crap that gets airplay cuz it has goofy lyrics. Agreed. They also steal graphics for their CDs from other artists' CDs (like Moby's "Go"). Howard probably quoted Moby because he criticized ICP, who are (not surprisingly) some of Howard's friends. All I know about Kid Rock is that his band destroys two Technics 1200s in one of his videos. I saw that video about the same time I was paying about $350 for one, so naturally I was a bit irritated... -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: (mobility) Top 10 Date: 04 Aug 1999 11:15:40 -0500 MY TOP 10 Albums 1. Smashing Pumpkins "Siamese Dream" 2. Moby "Everything is Wrong - Remixed" 3. Orbital "Insides" 4. Moby - "Play" 5. Paul Van Dyke - anything by him 6. Fatboy Slim - "On the floor at the botique" 7. The Orb "Aubrey Mixes" 8. Chemical Brothers - "Surrender" 9. Orbital - "Green Album" 10. Paul Oakenfold - Anything by him ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: (mobility) moby items up for sale Date: 04 Aug 1999 09:40:29 -0700 Hi Mobility, i have some more Moby items up for sale on Ebay, if anyone is interested. Email me with any questions about any of these items--thanks for looking! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137885037 Moby: Instinct Dance 2LP compilation (features rare and early Moby 12" tracks) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138321256 Moby/Lopez-Why can't it stop? UK 12" remixes http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138444706 Moby: Bring back my happiness US 12" remixes http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138805198 Moby: all that i need is to be US promo CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne N Thalheimer Subject: (mobility) question about moby and/in drag Date: 04 Aug 1999 12:47:12 -0400 (EDT) hi all. i'm midway through writing a dissertation chapter about drag, and as i was sitting in my living room with earphones on (my house is full of electricians) today listening to _animal rights_ i suddenly thought, I wonder what the deal is with those pictures on the inside of _animal rights_--anybody know the story/have opinions on this? what stereotypes/archetypes he's dressed up like and why? & why the facial hair in the blond (girl?) superstar picture? thanks, anne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: (mobility) Aerosmith remixes Date: 04 Aug 1999 09:56:25 -0700 i forgot this one...great moby remixes on this release! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=138398782 Aerosmith/moby: falling in Love US promo 12" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) WARNING: semi-disgruntled worker Date: 04 Aug 1999 13:32:12 EDT jgmagnus@bkb.com writes: > it is a law in California that all Lawyers must use 100% recycled paper. question: how many of the thousands of californian lawyers actually obey this law? elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: RE: (mobility) kid rock and icp suck Date: 04 Aug 1999 11:34:42 MST yeah his name is probably as unoriginal as his songs. he's a new artist that everyone else but me and a few other people in this world thinks is so great. he's done the song 'bahwitdabah' and has mini-me in his band. i don't happen to like kid rock but that's my opinion just like i think insane clown posse sucks > > OK, I'm dating myself here but: > Who the hell is "Kid Rock"? I know who the "Kid ad Rock" is from the >Beastie Boys but I don't think you're talking about the Beasties. Looks >like >this "Kid Rock" character just stole the name from the Beasties to me ... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tribble Subject: Re: (mobility) recoil Date: 04 Aug 1999 11:20:25 -0700 > > i think "deformity" is worth 10$ alone, but i have to admit the rest > of the tracks didn't do much for me. then again, faith healer isn't > really my favorite track on the album... > are you sure you can't still get the CD directly from mute records? > if not, i'm sure people on the list can keep an eye out for it. > i think i saw it recently _somewhere_... Ah yes, I forgot about Deformity- that is another excellent reason to get this release, great song. I still like Conspiracy (double bullet) Thoery best though. while we are on the subject... By coincidence I picked up a used CD last week that relates directly to the Recoil / Toni Halliday discussion- it's a single from Freaky Shakra called "Budded on Earth To Bloom In Heaven" - 1995 Astralwerks. Toni Halliday does the vocals and if you like Recoil you will like this release too I'm sure. Less than one week until MOBY gets here :) paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: RE: (mobility) kid rock and icp suck Date: 04 Aug 1999 12:01:20 -0600 although i'm not a fan, i have to say that he's been around since the early 90's...his first album came out in 1990. >yeah his name is probably as unoriginal as his songs. he's a new artist that >everyone else but me and a few other people in this world thinks is so >great. he's done the song 'bahwitdabah' and has mini-me in his band. i don't >happen to like kid rock but that's my opinion just like i think insane clown >posse sucks > > > Chris Perkins cdperk@trib.com ICQ #: 32689797 -People in small towns don't know what books are and they don't know what phones are. If you ask them about phonebooks, their heads will explode.- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Batty" Subject: (mobility) Even longer post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 19:17:58 GMT >just because of piece of music is >timely, that doesn't necessarily make it a conscious attempt to emulate >styles, or to market to a particular demographic...I find it much more >likely to believe that Moby was influenced by the current musical climate That's a good point. I am assuming that was some sort of consciously calculated move on his part to appeal to a wider audience. And I hope you didn't get the impression that I was accusing him of anything. Like I said, Moby's my favorite musician right now. I'm not going to make any kind of ultimatum proclaiming my final opinion on his work, because it varies, and I'm not going to attempt to guess at what inspires him. You're probably right. >Now I'm gonna jump the fence here...Didn't you see his Politically >Incorrect >appearance? Arguing with Maher about his enlightement...I would hardly >call >him a modest man Yeah, I agree. He isn't modest. But see, that's exactly what I think MAKES him seem like such an ordinary guy rather than some distant rock star. He seems like a buddy you could argue with and then go get a beer with. >I believe...going on >television to promote his album is not selling out, it's doing his >job... Fair enough. I agree. I don't think Moby qualifies as a Britney Spears/BSB Sellout at all. I do think that the release of a song like South Side suggests a desire to appeal to that audience. BUT, he then puts a track like The Sky is Broken on the same album... and that song is NOT going to appeal to a Britney Spears audience. I agree that he produces the music he wants... and that in this instance his taste produced a track (South Side) that is reaalllly poppy. I think the song is catchy. But it is not on the same level as Natural Blues or even a poppy song like Bodyrock. >I mean Moby can be credited with creation of >something new and original that has had a dramatic influence on the music >scene of the '90s (even if you don't necessarily hear it on the >radio).. You're absolutely right. I never meant to say that Moby was totally derivative. His stuff is individual, unique, and amazing. I'm sure one could argue that it is musically better than the Pepsipop stuff that's out there... and I would agree wholeheartedly. >Moby was widely criticized for Animal Rights. He explained that he makes >music that he likes, to please himself. Animal Rights is my favorite Moby album. End of Everything and Play follow closely. Even the tracks he produces that I don't really care for tend to grow on me (like South Side). But that doesn't keep me from admitting that a song like "Hymn (european edit)" or "Face It" TROUNCES South Side in my opinion. In those moments Moby achieves BRILLIANCE, and whether or not it was his personal taste or desire to have wider appeal that produced "South Side" I do NOT think it is anywhere near as good a song as those are. >To me he doesn't seem like some high up impossibly far away rock star, but >instead like a cool guy >>>>that could easily be my friend. You're looking >for a deviousness and calculatedness that simply aren't there. You're not >giving him enought credit. Give Moby more personal & professional credit, >mmmkay? He >>>>>deserves it. I'm not looking for deviousness. I admire Moby. But as long as we can admit that the man is human, flawed, and immodest, can't we also admit that he has perhaps a bit of a need for a wider audience? Isn't that part of the reason he left Elektra? I love Moby, I'm not knocking him at all. But I hope I can be critical of his work at the same time. The fact that his music can hold up to close criticism is just more evidence of his status as a great artist. Dan Lee aka Roy Batty _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) Re: hype nose noise Date: 04 Aug 1999 06:58:50 +0200 yo really know a lot about this shit...! really great to read! "Stab that Knife in mEEEEE1!" - hyponoise - wrote: > > >Toni Halliday and PJ are my heroines. Shame Toni hasn't got > >her act together now - more please. God, it was hard enough > >doing the top 10 of the 90s let alone the last 4 decades! > > if you didnt know curve had a new album last year. the excellent come clean > w/ the companion chinease burn ep and coming up roses singles. toni and dean > are working on a new curve album but the release is expected at earliest in > early 2000. this is due to them buying a new studio w/ rehersal space [ the > creatures used their space to warm up on their last tour. they also stole > away curves touring guitarist rob. ] and there has unfortuneatly been a > death in tonis family so she needed to take some time off of curve for a > bit. > > dean has a album of his 'flying sauser music' out under his nick headcase. > the album is called mushimushi and is very good. toni does vocals on one > track. it was just released on the street with new artwork. you can still > order the orgional mail order prining from dean. > > dean also started his own record label mushimushi records. planned releases > are a interactive music/graphic program called soundbox and an ep by dean > and tim simonson. oh dont worry curve is still deans main project. these > tracks are just stuff that wasnt very curve-y. so expect toni to turn up on > a couple of releases. > > relevant urls : > www.curve.co.uk - curves outdated offical page. dean posts updates on the > notice board section > > www.mushimushi.net - deans label. fun internet toys like LED and a preview > of his headcase album. > > -jason and how than with Concrete Blonde? np: Desert, Boom Boom S's auto-cooling-mechanism (RECORDING!) > n . p . ruby . salt peter > www.mp3.com/wilt > "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) WARNING: workers Unite Date: 04 Aug 1999 07:22:26 +0200 hooo-hooo they call this"the Paperless Office" better send this one to B.G. (mr. Gates) altho he has no email, they SAY he reads 1000 emails a day, but it's not true, he writes viruses... Because WINDOWS is a VIRUS! READ THIS AND LEARN IT BY HEART! J Holland wrote: > > okay-- this really has nothing to do with anything (most certainly not moby related)... unfortunately you guys are just the only captive audience i have at the moment, so bear with me while i complain a bit... > > my desk at work is smack dab in the middle of document central-- we've got the archives on my right, two photocopiers behind me, and shreadders and recycle bins galore on my left... > > recycle bins, normally good, right? well, when mixed in with two high capacity photocopiers, they are bad bad bad! they seem to give people the feeling that they have the right to make needless copies, and tons of them-- for example just a few moments ago, some guy was copying 10 copies of a 150 page document, that could easily be emailed to the 10 individuals-- but instead, they'll be read once, then recycled. what a waste! > > and even tho the paper is being recycled, that doesn't really matter much-- the majority of paper used in the us comes straight from the tree, not the recycling center (okay, i think the former was a fact, but i have no idea of its accuracy, so if you know better feel free to dispute me). and what is made of recycled material usually is not entirely post consumer recycled-- (note your cereal boxes-- 40% post-consumer waste/recycled material means only 40% of the box is made from what we throw in our big blue bins). goodness knows, we don't use any recycled paper here! > > :( -- J > > ps-- arg! someone just asked me if i'd 'please make seven copies of this document?' talk about timing... > > #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # > > find it amusing. fight the power. yesterday, some housing-inspector told me to jeah kill TWO trees, for NO reason as that they would GROW... they would GROW bigger! yesterday i read this: "At he age of 6 i wanted to be a Cook, and at the age of 7 i wanted to be Napoleon, and my ambition is still growing rapidly!" SALVADORE DALI, 1962 'Dali' jeah kees > ________________________________________________________ ____ > Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) radio doad Date: 04 Aug 1999 07:45:36 +0200 nah... paul, what a STREET-name! Dadio Road, yo'r Olly-ing! Kidding Chester? Radio Dead in Dutch it means! CRAZY siffilisity Paul Simpson wrote: > > hey i just noticed on the MTV page on the Top 20enty > list, the new BLUR video is #16ixteen! rock! so please > request it at the TRL site! just voted for it 50ifty > times!!! (i love this fast library computer!) its the > best video in rotation on MTV! and of course, please > tell them TO PUT SIFL AN OLLY BACK ON in the comments! > and as tribute, say yr from Ohio like i always do!!! > > "Oh, we could start over again"-Damon Albarn (ROCK!) > > also, i got a new tape out if any1ne cares. its called > "A Surgeon A Sargeant And A Baker" by Radical Of > Genius. a wild mix of computer collages, actual songs > that degenerate into mindless noiz, acoustic guitar > noiz, S&O covers (including my cover of "Crescent > Fresh Song from Season 2wo CFTP" to be on Bangin On > Pots And Pans! plus a "Lazer Eyes" that drags into a > 15ifteen minute improvisatin/interview times, etc.), > interview with a guinea pig water bottle, TMBG covers > (from the first album) etc.! the price is a tape, send > me a mixtape or a dub of yr favorite album, or yr own > muzik, or just a blank tape. 90inety minutes of corse. > addy: > Paul Simpson > 12 Dadio Road > Hamden, CT 06517 > > bye cres folkz!!! bye! > === > W W C D > WHAT WOULD CHESTER DO?????? > SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! > ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! > feedback@mtv.com > >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com --tape cummin!---up hamden court! --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) "Moby's Top 10"can someone tell me what they were, please? Date: 04 Aug 1999 07:48:02 +0200 prob. have to go to the famous ARCHIVE Derek ~ wrote: > > hi > i've been reading about moby's top ten a lot recently. but can someone > please tell me what they were? i think i deleted the message tehy were in > which really sucks. > thanks > -derek > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) total limbility! Date: 04 Aug 1999 08:03:49 +0200 Please? dont write anymore? i am out of here.. i cant read no more, i'm in nowheresville, kees van til -- all plugz dis-connected: --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) AMP/s&o.com Date: 04 Aug 1999 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT) hey kids! Next week AMP Plays Honey. the playlist is nearly identical to the 1ne they were gonna play last week, but postponed. except they premiere the new Carl Cox video this week, which could be interesting....... and next week there will be a special RAVE ON THE ROCKS edition. it's Chems and FBSlim live at RedRocks. so its not a real rave or anything. doesnt it suck that people label things RAVE just cuz theyre techno? i mean i went to a DJ Spooky/Plastilina Mosh/EBN show at Toad's once, and they had a dj before the show (possibly Dave the Wave) plus EBN is sort of rave, i mean they were out in like '9inety2wo or so, and their muzik has those ardkor beats and they use those silly samples and acid basslines and fx, so they could pass for rave, but Plastilina Mosh isn't really even techno, and DJ Spooky had a live band, and well you know him he goes all over the place, but he isn't exactly "Rave" so thats just basically stereotyping there...... what? oh yeah, www.sifl-n-olly.com has recently ben updated, also at www.siflandolly.com so check that out, as u can see i updated my quote to celebrate... but S&O still aint on so I'll still nag you punks!!! k bye kresss Moby freaks!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Canadian Moby Stuff Date: 04 Aug 1999 16:25:44 -0500 >And after hearing >that the people who got pay per view didnt even see him, made me even >happier :D! Somtimes it is kinda kool to be Canadian! To be fair, we Americans can also get MuchMusic on satellite systems, etc. And it is generally better than MTV; I have yet to see any stupid game shows or tedious "real-life" dramas on MM. -- Vegetable rights now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 04 Aug 1999 16:56:57 -0500 >yeah definately death sentence to britney spears and >BSB but you forgot to throw in nsync. (Sorry for being late to this thread) We also need to include: 98 degrees and the other BSB/N-Suck clones every video that has a group of synchronized-dancing scantily-dressed girls any artist who says "ah-ight" any artist who says "they" instead of "their/there/they're" any band with a horrifically misspelled cutesy name -- End Lactose intolerance! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) WARNING: semi-disgruntled worker Date: 04 Aug 1999 15:53:00 -0400 Well, I believe they cannot submit ANYTHING into court on UNRECYCLED paper so I would assume almost all of them use recycled paper. Any lawyer-mobyfans out there?? (doubt it) -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 1:32 PM jgmagnus@bkb.com writes: > it is a law in California that all Lawyers must use 100% recycled paper. question: how many of the thousands of californian lawyers actually obey this law? elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Heidi Gronman Subject: (mobility) Re: moby & drag V2 #71 Date: 05 Aug 1999 02:49:29 +0300 (EET DST) my pleasure... i don't have cover of animal rights now here with me, but since all photos in it are certainly very interesting as pieces of art as well as fetishes to drool, i think i can say something without relevant information. funny, that it never came to me, that they are drag...i just looked moby wearing skirt or wig. (to prove that i'm art-piece i quote damian hirst here: 'i'm an slut and a hypocrite and i'll change my mind tomorrow)so: my precious opinions about moby in drag in three photos in the middle of animal rights now are: - could be photos taken by cindy sherman, but are not. (very famous am. photographer, did series of selfportraits in disquise) - not very commercial drag,looks more like taken accidentically, but are not. so the photos have been taken on purpose. but interesting, very odd atmosphere. - and being odd is something i think most of drags i've met don't want to be. usually drags want to have looks of common, average woman, or very overfemine, sexual yet 'normal' hyperwoman. (only about males to save space, time and nerves) my idea of typical (if there is one) drag is that they act like being very sure. certain. familiar. ready. made. done. -however, moby looks like lost from raves(left), forgotten words of karaoke(middle) or the place where he hide his cocaine (right). - i am sure they had some fun in the studio. - it is interesting to think about number three. i claim it's not a triptych of holy family, though. - i remember i played with ideas a lot when i saw first time those photos, cos they are, well, really odd yet catchy. they could be portraits of memories. of friends. of songs. of emotions. of fantazies. instead of being ordinary selfportrait from, say, breakfast, lunch and supper.a face with that kind of look can very easily be a metaphora, though most likely unconsciously, as good pictures usually are. - and, as always, things are not just like that. in fact they often are different :). stay happy, don't choke heidi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 04 Aug 1999 17:17:45 -0700 (PDT) yeah.. i'm pretty much helpless right now, too... it sux being under 18!!!!! > if i was old enough to drive and lived by myself i > would start the campaign > but i have about 4 years before i can move out of my > house so maybe in the > meantime we can start planning... _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's abs Date: 04 Aug 1999 17:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Yeah, we'd beat clinton and his wimp ass armed forces down... mobilty power!! lol, that's kinda corny... oh well > clinton's armed forces couldn't do shit to us moby > fans! we would wipe them > out! somehow we would. yeah definately death > sentence to britney spears and > BSB but you forgot to throw in nsync. but you see > we're not terrorists we're > out to play good good music videos. we would really > be doing good to the > world of MTV. we would become heroes! yeah!!!! _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 17:25:02 -0700 (PDT) > So what makes Moby any more REAL than the > Backstreet Boys or 98°? The fact > that we prefer his music? I think that's about it. Well... it could be that, and it's also that he wasn't like, put together like all those other little pop groups.... i mean, he writes his own music... he doesn't do a bunch of choreographed dancing (not that that's ALWAYS bad), and i mean.... those kind of groups write pretty much ONLY to appeal to other people, and they're afraid to do something or say something DIFFERENT (unlike Moby)... that's just my opinion on it though. Mandi _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 17:55:07 -0700 (PDT) > > I disagree here. I view "manufactued pop scene" > and I see 98 Degrees, > > N'Sync, and to a further extent, Korn and Limp > Bizkit. To me, > > manufactured pop is music that is written either > for shock value (in the > > cases of Korn and Limp Bizkit) or schlock value > (in the case of N'Sync > > and 98 degrees). manufactured pop has only one > goal - to make the > > artists huge piles of money and to hell with > wether or not the fans > > actually notice the song that was just released > sounds just like the last > > six songs the artist released last month; whereas > the "nonmanufactured" > > music scene artist writes songs that actually > sound different from one > > another. Look at it this way, you can definitely > tell Bodyrock apart > > from South Side, can't you? I'm gonna have to disagreee w/ u when u say that Korn and Limp Bizkit are manufactured pop... cuz that's completely untrue... they were around a while before they got all succesful (unlike bsb, etc...) and they actually have TALENT... manufactured pop is the stuff that is created for little 10 year old girls... and stuff w/ absolutely no substance.. people lately have been saying that they've "sold out" which really pisses me off... just because a good band gets succesful people start saying that... some bands DO change just to make money, but i don't think these two have. someone's gonna get all pissed at me for saying this, but i actually like those bands. i wonder how many people HERE are gonna turn on Moby once he goes multi- platinum and starts getting mainstream... i know i won't, because u either like the music or u don't... it shouldn't have anything to do w/ selling out. now i've had my say :) Mandi _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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I think Moby would not sell out, regardless of his record sales or lack there of. If people think that because your music gets on the radio because you "sold out"... you're wrong. Moby has what it takes to last in our musical hearts,and to change the way we think. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Redmond Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 19:41:29 -0600 Allow me a short (hopefully) rebuttal... The reason I said what I said is that, when I do hear Korn or Limp Bizkit, I hear the same song with a different title. I do think some of Korn's music is innovative and groundbreaking, but one can only go so far growling the lyrics to the song. Perhaps I wasn't clear in this, and I admit that as my fault. When I do look at Korn and Limp Bizkit, I see two more artists being shoved down the throats of America. I agree that Korn and Limp Bizkit are NOT making music for "little 10 year old girls." As for turning on Moby when he goes mainstream, I confidently predict that (at least) 90% of this list will stay on, and we even may pick up a few more members! i guess that is short enough. daniel ps- nothing wrong really with liking those bands - life is fullest when people are able to have a reasonable discussion on a point of disagreement. "You're missing the point, cause you can't see this is 87 not 63." - The Toasters >I'm gonna have to disagreee w/ u when u say that Korn and Limp Bizkit >are manufactured pop... cuz that's completely untrue... they were >around a while before they got all succesful (unlike bsb, etc...) and >they actually have TALENT... manufactured pop is the stuff that is >created for little 10 year old girls... and stuff w/ absolutely no >substance.. people lately have been saying that they've "sold out" >which really pisses me off... just because a good band gets succesful >people start saying that... some bands DO change just to make money, >but i don't think these two have. someone's gonna get all pissed at >me >for saying this, but i actually like those bands. i wonder how many >people HERE are gonna turn on Moby once he goes multi- platinum and >starts getting mainstream... i know i won't, because u either like >the >music or u don't... it shouldn't have anything to do w/ selling out. > > >now i've had my say :) > >Mandi > >_____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby on HOB Date: 04 Aug 1999 22:16:43 EDT did y'all hear moby on the house of blues broadcasted live?! he just finished a few minutes ago giving a fantastic performance as usual. makes me wanna go see him again! he even had a rapper, "skooly-D", rap during bodyrock - pretty cool. cant wait ti'l he plays nyc again! moby kicks ass man. animal lib, go vegan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ruben A Blanco Subject: (mobility) Moby "House of Soul" Broadcast. Date: 04 Aug 1999 20:28:20 -0600 (MDT) This is what I heard on the Cybercast: ? 1) Go 2) James Bond Theme 3) Feeling So Real 4) Body Rock (Featuring School E. D. !!!!) 5) Honey ? ? That was it for me. I has having probems with my 32K Internet Modem Connection, and the Microsoft Media player kept buffering. The Real Audio connection sounded like crap. Did anybody listen to the Cybercast and taped it? How was the entire broadcast was there anymore to it? I got frustrated and then disconnected. BLAH!!!! What I did hear of what Moby played was excellent! Cant wait to see him LIVE!!!! Ruben ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby "House of Soul" Broadcast. Date: 04 Aug 1999 19:38:17 -0700 (PDT) a tape?? a tape?? did anyone get a tape?? that would be my dream-- i had class... i suck. > Did anybody listen to the Cybercast and taped it? How was the entire >broadcast was there anymore to it? #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: (mobility) Live Show Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:40:41 +0000 Attempt number 3. There is a Moby show in Boston on the 26th of August. Can anyone give me any information on this? All it says is the call letters of some radio station. Anyone know anything? Also, how many times do we need to have this selling out conversation. And to Mandi (?) even if Moby sells out you will still like him and it shouldn't matter if he sells out or not. When Prodigy sold old (changing from The Prodigy) their music completely changed and a lot of people who used to be fans didn't like them, or at least their new music anymore. So, should Moby sell out like that (he loves album right?) how can you say that you would still like him? I have around 60 dif Moby CDs, but if he made a an album like Fat of the Land, and continued in that course, I would quickly connect to eBay and make some of you happy. Of course, I doubt Moby would ever do that, but what if? Boston - please help! AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 22:06:18 MST i would say that korn is about to sell out. i think that success and popularity is getting to their heads. their music isn't nearly as good as it used to be. i like limp bizkit though. they're not bad. sometimes fred durst does some stupid things. i don't think they've sold out. they are not manufactured pop like mandi said. they've worked their ways up to success. somewhat. not like stupid bands like 98degrees and britney spears who will never release another record as long as they live i don't think moby has sold out and never will. or at least i hope not. well i'm gonna go now because i've gotten really confused trying to write this letter and talk to some friends at the same time. -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) SELL OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN! Date: 04 Aug 1999 22:13:22 MST finally someone has worded it just perfectly. i totally agree with you man >A sell out is someone who gives up all his/her creative license to the >record >label and let them dictate their style, both personal and musical. I think >Moby would not sell out, regardless of his record sales or lack there of. >If >people think that because your music gets on the radio because you "sold >out"... you're wrong. Moby has what it takes to last in our musical >hearts,and to change the way we think. > >dj tripp > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: moby1342@juno.com Subject: (mobility) moby concert line Date: 05 Aug 1999 00:36:45 -0500 my friend called that management line and she got on the guest list for the chicago show. so if you're underage...give that thing a try...it might werk love and stuff f ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) question about moby and/in drag Date: 05 Aug 1999 03:42:05 EDT regarding moby's get-ups in the booklet for animal rights, here are my theories: the first photo is one of a sexy, kinda naughty pose, insinuating that he is a no nonense kinda with it hip chick the second photo is one of a glamourous, arent-i-so-damn-sexy pose of the familiar hot blonde girl archetype. the unshaven face illicits feelings of his raw masculinity; a blending of the two basic hetero archetypes of feminine beauty and the rugged manly man the third and final photo is easy: the tough, rugged, sadomasochistic gay leather man. purrrrrrrr; the half-goatee he has going is reminiscent of the biker guys of yore, riding along on their hogs in the day, cruising the leather sex clubs by night. the sunglasses heighten the effect, by covering his eyes, he is mysterious, a puzzle you ache to solve.... and those are three sides of moby, who is oh so sexxxy however he looks teehee thank you for hearing me, john ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Astroman64@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) SELL OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN? Date: 05 Aug 1999 09:20:54 EDT well as a little disclaimer.....almost all of you will hate me for this....disclaimer end as a artist myself(music,drawing,whatever),and having done it for a long time,i am always ready to jump up and shout"fu@#ing sell-out".i have even had quite a few songs revolving around that situation,but that was a long time ago.Don't get me wrong i still believe in art for art's sake but this whole starving artist thing is for the birds.Drawing pictures that sit in my room doesn't pay my bills,making songs that never leave my hard drive won't feed me,and so on.So what am i forced to do?Spend fifty hours a week at a job i hate,wasting the time that i could use much more productivly. As far as selling out,if a record label asked me to wear t-shirt A instead of t-shirt B it really wouldn't bother me if it meant that i had more time to do the thing that i love to do.I have become a firm beliver over the years that to take your music and put it on a cd you have sold a piece of yourself,hence selling out.It's like if you want space in a gallery to show your work.They nit pick what you say and how you dress on an equal level with your art.Sure it's messed up and I think it really sucks but it's life kids. I don't need a mansion,or a limo,or my name up in lights.I don't want to be living on the streets again either.But if selling out to smaller degrees is the difference between making pizza's and making music,show mw the dotted line. "The only man I ever knew who didn't sell out was the man who died clutching his unfulfilled dreams in the street" much love peanut ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trousers Subject: Re: (mobility) "My Top 10" Date: 05 Aug 1999 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Well i've just managed to digest most of the 300 or so messages i got after logging on to this moby group thang last week - sounds like some good chat mixed up with a bit of hero worship? I think Moby is a cool guy (i happen to share a similar way of thinking as far as vegetarianism and a spiritual belief goes, and basically just wish everyone would accept everyone else for what they are) but as far as selling out and shit like that - who the fuck is anyone to judge even if he did make a conscious decision to make a commercial record. I love what he says on the sleeve of PLAY and if "selling out" means that ten thousand people people read those ideas who wouldn't have done so before and stop and think for even a second then fuckin good job moby. If you genuinely want this place to get better then spread the word to everyone you meet - not just the "cool" people. Anyway, I may be a bit late in the day with this but one of the reasons i like to talk to other like minded souls is to find new music that i'll get off on. I just love hearing what music other people really love. I guess my top 10 would be stuff that really means/meant something and/or influenced me and my direction in life. so in no particular order: Primal Scream - Screamadelica (i can't believe nobody else loves this album, this is the one cd i will take to my grave) Dead Kennedys - Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death Consolidated - Play More Music (this album helped me to become a vegetarian) Stevie Wonder - Talking Book Van Morrison - Moondance (i love so much of his music) REM - Automatic for the People Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust Nick Cave - The Boatman's Call (i haven't even heard the whole album yet but "Into my Arms" is the most honest, moving song i have ever heard) Miles Davis - Kinda Blue (kinda fuckin cool) Nick Drake - Bryter Later (just grows and grows on you) and i also have to mention; JJ Cale - Troubadour John Martyn - Solid Air Spiritualised - Ladies & Gentlemen Radiohead - The Bends Propellerheads - Decksanddrumsandrockandroll Tricky - Maxinquaye Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magic Orb - Adventures in the Ultraworld and Sinead O Conner - I do not want what i have not got Peace, Love and Balance to everyone Read the celestine prophecy (again) and spread the love Trousers _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cstepanek@nny.com (Chris Stepanek) Subject: (mobility) RE: Long Post, Korn/Limp Bizkit...BSB.... Date: 05 Jun 1999 12:00:02 -0500 I agree with you Mandi, somewhat. Korn has been around for a long long time, by no means can you lump then in the same category as BSB, N-synch...whatever. Granted every 13 year old boy digs Korn (now) and that same 13 year old boy's 10 year old sister digs BSB (or whatever cookie-cutter teen thing MTV is pushing), and ever since the "follow the leader" album I do think Korn is in "cashing in" mode (even though it is a good album for he most part...but nothing like the first album...). Also Korn is back in the studio to push out another album this year (I think) just to cash in. But hey these guys have been around and it is nice to see them make some $$$. If, as artists that is what they want then more power to them. It is easy to sit here and judge but I think 99% of you reading this when faced with a record label asking (forcing) you to make a new album with the chance of (no doubt of) making millions of dollars I bet you would NOT say no. But the way record companies and the music industry is it is sooooooooooo bad and unhelpful to artists and such (and I am not even part of the industry, I don't think I could if I even wanted it). As far as Limp Bizkit I do see them as useless and just riding the coat tails of Korn and they style of metal/hardcore/rap music. And ISP I honestly can't say a word, I don't think i have ever heard a song of theirs and only have seen a few pictures. But for face value ISP looks pretty lame (song music managers project to apeall to 13 year old suburban boys who hate their parents and want to be down). But hey look at me there, making assumptions and spouting opinions. I used to be pretty militant in my views but lately I have mellowed out quite a bit. Now I know my views and live my life the way I do and if others do it different so be it, when their actions begin to influence me though I then get a bit pissed. I think one of Moby's essays in "play" was right on. The one about any type of rigid system to cookie cutter life being impossible because life is way to complex. I agree. As Easy as it is to cookie cutter and section things off (and trust me I love to do this) 9 times out of 10 it just won't work. BSB, Spice girls, N-Synch, 98degrees and however many other manufactured pop groups their are making $. The only reason they are around is that people are spending money on their stuff. But hey, in 1 or 2 years will anyone really remember who BSB is or Ricky Martin, in 5-10 they will be completely wiped out of the society's collective consciousness. Music is music, everyone listens to it for many different reasons but deep down they listen to it because it is fun and they enjoy it. While Celine DIon makes my skin crawl, Mariah Carrey is a big nasty whatever and honestly I would never buy a spice girls album many people like that stuff and it is there call. Hey i am sitting here listening to Nine Inch Nails, arguments could be made about them for so many things. But hey I dig Trent (sometimes) and his music (most of it) and if you don't then fine, that ain't important to me. does it really matter who is more "hardcore" or and "honest" artist? people buy what they like, Pop music is usually trash anyway and you don't walk into a Wal-Mat and honesty expect a good selection of Moby imports....nonono...you get top 40 pop. Everything is relative! --- Chris Stepanek - Designer - Nicholson | NY cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388 --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lainey3333@aol.com Subject: (mobility) what makes it great... Date: 05 Aug 1999 12:01:21 EDT just out of curiosity... what makes a song great: a catchy melody? the artist behind it? the emotion it evokes in you? the lyrics? I was just wondering why you guys love the music that you do... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Travis Zickafoose Subject: (mobility) -->intro for travis. Date: 05 Aug 1999 10:34:38 -0700 (PDT) hello///--! as per the list's welcome message, here is my homework. my name is travis. the last name is optional, since it requires more effort. i just turned 19. yes. it's depressing. moby cd's that i claim to own: i like to score, animal rights, everything is wrong, play, moby disk e-cd, bring back my happiness, feeling so real, everytime you touch me my first audio experience of moby was after i bought animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at Endfest, a local mucic festival. other artists that i like: sky cries mary, radiohead, pulp, portishead, beastie boys, and i just started listening to john lennon. random info: i like computers and code. i'm a veggie. currently employed in data-entry. i suppose that's just an important sounding name for typing all day long. school is also something i like. oh yeah, my favorite freaking color is black. travis---/end transmission.> _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne N Thalheimer Subject: Re: (mobility) what makes it great... (longwinded reply) Date: 05 Aug 1999 15:32:37 -0400 (EDT) hello all. as for what makes a song great i think it (obviously) all depends; i mean, often its a combination of a decent melody, if i like the artist generally already, how it makes me feel, and the lyrics. though sometimes one can like the melody but not like the lyrics--robyn hitchcock's a decent example of this point for me. but its hard the other way around, i guess, i can't think of a song where the lyrics are great but the melody doesn't appeal (though i can think of remixes that don't appeal, so...). & sometimes its really sort of situation-specific. i mean, i got really into the cure, siouxsie, new order, joy division, bauhaus, dead can dance back when i was a very unhappy teenager in middle-of-nowhere-town massachusetts with, as _the breakfast club_ puts it, "an unsatisfying home life" (which may have been why i left at 16 & took off for a little liberal arts college). now, at said little college, i got really into different music because there were lots of people saying, oh yeah, listen to THIS, from punk stuff to blues and jazz and back again. now everytime i hear "head like a hole" i remember back to packing up to leave for college--same thing for "smells like teen spirit". & that life experience memory is part of what makes those songs good for me. i mean, there's got to be some leeway too about the artist--i mean, billie holiday & sarah vaughn & blossom dearie and nina simone (etc etc) can all sing the same song (which might well have been written by someone else), & one could like 'em all, but for varied reasons like singing style, voice, inflection, and so forth. or covers, even, like the smashing pumpkins version of depeche mode's 'never let me down again'. which isn't to say that i'm not into the cure and joy division etc now, because they're still brilliant (though, again, one could argue about the cure, i suppose, not being quite the same--but who wants to stay the same? case in point, the cure, r.e.m., and U2 playing around with electronica). but of course the lyrics are important as well--think of billy bragg, for example. my grandparents hate his voice but like his lyrics a lot. & to tie this back to the list subject--moby--part of why i like what he does is that there's a lot of experimentation happening, plus a viceral reaction--some of it is so beautiful i get weepy and some of it makes me wanna scream--and that's how i feel about other folks (the cure, joy division, etc); if they can affect me like that, I'm impressed. ok. i'll shut up now. thanks for reading. anne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: Long Post, Korn/Limp Bizkit...BSB.... Date: 05 Aug 1999 12:43:22 MST i dig most of trents music too well if you ever go into a wal mart you can't expect to find any moby cds. maybe some good ol ricky martin and BSB but they don't carry quality music like moby >Hey i am sitting here listening to Nine Inch Nails, arguments could be made >about them for so many things. But hey I dig Trent (sometimes) and his >music >(most of it) and if you don't then fine, that ain't important to me. > >does it really matter who is more "hardcore" or and "honest" artist? people >buy what they like, Pop music is usually trash anyway and you don't walk >into a Wal-Mat and honesty expect a good selection of Moby >imports....nonono...you get top 40 pop. > >Everything is relative! > > >--- >Chris Stepanek - Designer - Nicholson | NY >cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388 >--- > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett McSherry Subject: (mobility) tickets! Date: 05 Aug 1999 16:13:09 -0400 Woohoo. I just got my tickets for the Moby concert in Toronto at the Warehouse on Aug. 28. I can not wait for this. About six of my closest friends are going so this should kick ass. Anyone else going to the show in Toronto! I think u can still get tickets, but I could be wrong about that. Brett McSherry "Reach for the moon, for if you miss you will land among the stars." Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: Re: (mobility) what makes it great... Date: 05 Aug 1999 16:15:49 -0700 Lainey3333@aol.com wrote: > just out of curiosity... > what makes a song great: > a catchy melody? ive always maintained that something that is catchy is one step away from being evil... so its not that for me ;) > the artist behind it? that's a touchy situation. i mean yeah, moby is cool and all that but nothing off play would make it onto my top 25 songs of all time. i think people run into trouble when they start running up and down the street professing their love for a certain group and never admitting to themselves that such and such an album or single is really crap. for example: i really like pop will eat itself. but i like all their albums for different reasons. and i think some of their stuff is total shit. just because they're one of my fave bands, doesn't mean i automatically think every song is good. so i guess what im trying to say is that in my opinion the artist isn't what makes a song great. its the song itself. > the emotion it evokes in you? > the lyrics? i guess emotions and lyrics are what do it for me. i know i have to connect with something in the song or else it just becomes background music like everything else. i think pretty much what makes a song great is different for every person. i can say what does it for me, but who's to say its the exact same thing for anyone else on the list or anywhere else? i know the reason why i like moby is because of the emotions and lyrics, not because he's moby or because he writes "catchy" tunes. its hard to say what makes anyone's ears prick up and listen to one song more than another. but its an interesting thing to discuss anyway. -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. Date: 05 Aug 1999 15:28:16 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Travis Zickafoose wrote: > my first audio experience of moby was after i bought > animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look > foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at > Endfest, a local mucic festival. Arrrggghh! You're going to Endfest?! I hate you! :) Tell Moby I said hi. :P Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Medeiros" Subject: RE: (mobility) Long post, but please read Date: 05 Aug 1999 19:26:47 -0400 > > > Allow me a short (hopefully) rebuttal... > > The reason I said what I said is that, when I do hear Korn or Limp > Bizkit, I hear the same song with a different title. I do think some of > Korn's music is innovative and groundbreaking, but one can only go so far > growling the lyrics to the song. Perhaps I wasn't clear in this, and I > admit that as my fault. When I do look at Korn and Limp Bizkit, I see > two more artists being shoved down the throats of America. I agree that > Korn and Limp Bizkit are NOT making music for "little 10 year old girls." > Actually, Limp Bizkit and Korn may not be making music for 10 year old girls but they are making music for 14 year old boys. I get to witness this first hand, (I manage a mall record store). And right now Korn and Limp Bizkit is mainstream music. According to the music reps that I speak to, rap/rock suppose to be the big trend this year. That is why you have artists like Kid Rock, Korn, and LB selling millions of records. Now kid-pop music such as BSB, n-sync and britney spears is going to last for a while as a trend. And seriously I don't see anything wrong with this music, I mean how many of the girls on this list was grooving to New Kids on the Block in the 80's. Granted the music may be really cheesey but to a 12 year old it's cute and fun. So instead of making plans to take over MTV how about introducing a friend to moby. -paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david j bass Subject: (mobility) oops.. Date: 05 Aug 1999 18:35:37 -0500 That last message I sent wasn't for mobility, it was for my girlfriend, sorry. Dave ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "krwilson" Subject: (mobility) A round of applause people! Date: 05 Aug 1999 20:15:12 -0600 Let's all give a big up to Damian for being so cool and working at keeping us all together and informed on our favorite bald-headed musician. Thanks Damian! Just wanted to say it is VERY cool what you do and THANK YOU! As for Moby-related issues, has anyone ever heard of moby doing a chill-out set at a rave? It occured to me the other day that the chill-out session is one of the most important(Although VERY overlooked) parts of a rave and that Moby would do the most EXCELLENT job with his beatiful ambient/instrument/whatever songs. If I threw raves, I'd do whatever I could to get Moby to help chill the kiddies out. MO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) A round of applause people! Date: 05 Aug 1999 19:26:22 -0700 (PDT) ---krwilson wrote:--- >Let's all give a big up to Damian for being so cool and working at keeping >us all together and informed on our favorite bald-headed musician. Thanks >Damian! Just wanted to say it is VERY cool what you do and THANK YOU! > yea! compliments to damian! #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) an open letter to moby Date: 06 Aug 1999 00:58:19 -0700 (PDT) *sigh* I am so unbelievably disappointed right now it is almost overwhelming. I have such lame friends. That's it. I have _lame_ friends. I couldn't find one impulsive person who wanted to drive with me up to Vancouver to catch your show. If I had a car I would have driven up by myself, even if that meant driving around for hours and getting lost and only arriving at the venue as you sang the last note of your last encore. It would have been worth it. Dang. I can't belive I'm not going to get to hear 'Porcelain' performed live. If only you had been performing at the RKCNDY again instead of the Endfest. I could've just walked down the hill and been there (since the rkcndy is only 6 or so blocks from my flat). I am glad I at least got the chance to catch your appearance and dj gig at ARO.space. That was a very fun night. I'm not sure what you are doing tomorrow night (friday the 6th) since there are no listings for a gig on the tour schedule at moby.org but if you are in Seattle and want to check out a little bit of the underground techno - electro - experimental sounds of Seattle, there is a great event happening that night called "Paradox". The info can be found at 206.517.2605. Also if you're up for even more madness after your gig at the Endfest there is a beautiful event saturday night with great house, trance and drum'n'bass sounds. Should be lovely. It is called "Within the Ocean" and the info is at 206.633.4284. I promise that these events are not your typical "raves", they are "experiences". I know the chance of you being at either of these events (heck the chance of you seeing this message) is slim to none but the chance would be just none if I didn't try. :) Well, I am tired, your show is long over and I'm sure you've made some lucky Canadians very happy. Wish I could have been there. Next tour, I suppose. *smile* Goodnight. a.very.sad.Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) selling out Date: 06 Aug 1999 04:08:58 -0500 First and foremost I want to say to everyone who has participated in this whole selling out conversation that I agree a little bit with everyone of you. Everyone has made intelligent arguments and discussions like this makes lists like mobility so great. I thought I'd give my two cents on this whole topic. For a long time I shared the view of alot of you about not liking bands/artists that sold out or that were completely legit. After a period of time, though, I came to the realization that if I based what I listened to on whether someone was legit or not that I might be missing out on a song that I might like otherwise. So somoebody sold out. So what? That's their choice. I agree it's a shame that an artist's music can be shaped by greed and money. I agree that the quality and originality of an artist's music tends to degrade when that happens. I also agree that Moby will probably never sell out. If (BIG if) he does then I will give the music he makes at that time an honest listen to see if I like it before I dismiss him. Atleast I know I will always like everything that he has done up to that point. I envy those 15-year-old girls who love BSB and Nsuck. If they are content with that music then more power to 'em. It must be great having your favorite group constantly played on radio stations, TV, and at bars/clubs and not get tired of listening to it. What if Moby was constantly played? My first thought would be "Great! Moby all the time!", but after a second thought I would want that. I would eventually get sick of Bodyrock if it was constantly played. This brings me to another topic. That about Moby getting more airplay and receiving more attention. Don't get me wrong, I wish him all the success in the world and hope that Bodyrock and Play receives alot of attention, but at the same time I am glad that the media isn't saturated with him. To me it's kind of nice having one of my favorite artists pretty much unknown by mainstream America. I love introducing him to people who have never heard of him and have them liking his music. Tim--(The proud owner of a Spice Girls cd.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) selling out Date: 06 Aug 1999 09:51:05 EDT I think the bass player from Metallica said it best: "Yeah we sold old..... "we sold out a lot of shows." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian johnston Subject: (mobility) Mobility Date: 06 Aug 1999 10:34:29 -0400 you'd absolutely be sick of bodyrock, if you're not already, if you heard it often on the FM. hell, who thought that fatboy slim would become so tired so fast after he became the soundtrack for every movie and commercial for six months? It's not necessarily selling out. We want these guys to make money and be able to afford to keep making music. One more thing, bjorkdoll, Moby's playing out here (tampa, fl) next week. my lame friends are already making excuses. i think they have to wash their hair and babysit their little brothers that night. ah well. cheers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility Date: 06 Aug 1999 15:42:58 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Why do people have to have friends' cars to drive them places? What happened to public transport? Any trains/buses available? TMB On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 10:34:29 -0400 brian johnston wrote: One more thing, bjorkdoll, Moby's playing out here (tampa, fl) next week. my lame > friends are already making excuses. i think they have to wash their hair and > babysit their little brothers that night. ah well. > cheers > > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian johnston Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility Date: 06 Aug 1999 10:49:08 -0400 oh i'm going, daddyo, it's just too bad it's gotta be a solo creep since the amigos are scared of something or other. trains and buses, what are they? no public transport here after dark. they'd rather have us all drive drunk, i guess. and it's probly a $40 cab ride from Tampa to Clearwater, so that's not an option. we'll let you know how it goes. i might have to review the show for my newspaper (the tampa tribune). i hope not. it's hard to enjoy a show when you have to take notes during. bj Tim Beecher wrote: > Why do people have to have friends' cars to drive them > places? What happened to public transport? Any trains/buses > available? > > TMB > > On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 10:34:29 -0400 brian johnston > wrote: > One more thing, bjorkdoll, Moby's playing out here (tampa, fl) next week. my lame > > friends are already making excuses. i think they have to wash their hair and > > babysit their little brothers that night. ah well. > > cheers > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > Tim Beecher > Cranfield University > T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) Live Show Date: 06 Aug 1999 07:53:33 -0700 (PDT) i believe the call letters of the radio station are: WBCN this is all i know. -J ---AJ Brustein wrote:--- >Attempt number 3. >There is a Moby show in Boston on the 26th of August. Can anyone give me any >information on this? All it says is the call letters of some radio station. >Anyone know anything? #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility Date: 06 Aug 1999 16:09:20 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) I know what ya mean about going with your mates. Though the Glasto festival is about being crusty, green and getting positive vibrations, we still like to go down in a friend's car - not the most environmentally friendly. However, after a long weekend of late nights and partying, the last thing you want to do is queue for hours to get a bus to the nearest train station and queue some more there - our experience this year. However, trains are much quicker, so no tired bastard has to drive - and you can just sleep and feel like a smug bastard for not polluting the green and fleshy things with your car. No p. transport after dark - that's bad. Fuck, it's not a tiny village, in the middle of nowhere, like where I live is it? Well enjoy the show, whatever. TMB On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 10:49:08 -0400 brian johnston wrote: > oh i'm going, daddyo, it's just too bad it's gotta be a solo creep since the amigos > are scared of something or other. trains and buses, what are they? no public transport > here after dark. they'd rather have us all drive drunk, i guess. and it's probly a $40 > cab ride from Tampa to Clearwater, so that's not an option. > we'll let you know how it goes. i might have to review the show for my newspaper (the > tampa tribune). i hope not. it's hard to enjoy a show when you have to take notes > during. > bj > > Tim Beecher wrote: > > > Why do people have to have friends' cars to drive them > > places? What happened to public transport? Any trains/buses > > available? > > > > TMB ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Caviness Subject: Re: (mobility) selling out Date: 06 Aug 1999 08:49:46 -0700 (PDT) --- flux@scc.net wrote: > First and foremost I want to say to everyone > who has participated in this > whole selling out conversation that I agree a > little bit with everyone of > you. > Some of the definitions of selling out were interesting. Since I neglected to post before, I'll post now and say that I think "selling out" has to do with an artist's intentions. It is Selling Out when an artist purposefully contrives a certain sound or phrase or image because they know that image will appeal to a large number of people with available cash. It is not selling out when a musician makes a beautiful song or album and wants to share that with as many people as possible by all means at their disposal (radio, tv, cd stores, internet). I had some friends who were criticizing a pair of local bands I work with, accusing them of selling out (which is hysterical considering neither of them have ever made a dime for anyone!) because one band goes out of their way to craft songs that have clever hooks and beautiful melodies and are strangely dark and beautiful, and the other band for deciding to regroup a few weeks after they announced they were breaking up. The "indie cred" logic made absolutely no sense to me. Actually, it did. I just saw if for what it was - a bunch of kids who are more loyal to their "scene" than they are to good music, and even to their friends who are in those bands. Bands who make pretty music (other than hardcore/emo) that might appeal to a wider audience, despite retaining it's artistic integretiy, or who think they are good enough to maybe one day make a living at their craft are branded as sellouts. It's a ridiculous cycle that has more to do with "selling out" to indie cred and to the little pond scene your favorite band might be popular in than it does with actually making good music. > It must be great having your > favorite group constantly played on radio > stations, TV, and at bars/clubs > and not get tired of listening to it. What if > Moby was constantly played? > My first thought would be "Great! Moby all the > time!", but after a second > thought I would want that. I would eventually > get sick of Bodyrock if it > was constantly played. > LOL! I can't get away from Bodyrock. I keep hearng it on commercials, especially, everywhere I go. Not that I have grown weary of it yet. Far from it. But I know what you mean. I've been a fan of Sixpence None the Richer since their first album was released in 1994. I've been personally acquainted with the band members in a friendly way since 1995. I've loved their music and them as people dearly, and genuinely felt bad when two records were made and released and not given adequate support to make a dent on the charts (if you haven't heard, their second album *This Beautiful Mess* is truly worth hunting down. The title is most appropriately descriptive). It got even worse when that label went out of business yet refused to release the band from their contract. But then they were released, they made a new record that is their best yet, and it got the kind of real world support that makes a band a living. I'm as happy as I can be for those kids. But I told Matt I had to turn off my radio several months ago, because if I heard "Kiss Me" one more time, I was going to have to hit him. I kid a little. I honestly love that song. And I played it to death on my radio show a whole year before it impacted the top 40 charts. But it's to the point that I can only listen to it when *I* want to hear it, and not when mr. DJ wants to play it for me. Sixpence is the first band that I've been a fan of since they were a little band from texas that no one had heard of that made it big. I gotta say, I don't mind sharing them with the 14 year old girls of the world. They haven't lost an ounce of indie cred with me. Because all those 14 year old girls that buy the record for the fluff of "Kiss Me" and "There She Goes" are also going to get to hear the darkly beautiful "We Have Forgotten", or "The Waiting Room", the latin beauty of "Puedo Escribir" and all the other artsy, difficult stuff that will probably never get played on the radio. === Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've also wondered why there was no musical commentary on writing." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 12:10:40 -0400 >One more thing, bjorkdoll, Moby's playing out here (tampa, fl) Tampa!? really? when? Are there any other Florida dates I missed? Sorry if its been posted but I've been away from the net for about a week (moving).. thanks eric gold@netrox.net http://www.tonematrix.com http://www.mp3.com/tonematrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda) Date: 06 Aug 1999 12:12:19 -0400 > i believe the call letters of the radio station are: WBCN hey isnt that the beginning of Fatboy Slim's Rockerfella Skank? The little radio dj part in the beginning? yus vunderin eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian johnston Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 12:15:46 -0400 actually he's at Jannus Landing in St. Pete. you know wha? i think i was more wrong than usual about the date. it's sept. 16, not aug. 16, wihch means i'll not be able to go, but i'll check when i get to the office and shout back asap. bj "Eric M. Goldberg" wrote: > >One more thing, bjorkdoll, Moby's playing out here (tampa, fl) > > Tampa!? really? > when? > > Are there any other Florida dates I missed? > Sorry if its been posted but I've been away from the net for about a > week (moving).. > > thanks > eric > gold@netrox.net > http://www.tonematrix.com > http://www.mp3.com/tonematrix ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danny legare Subject: (mobility) playing: a review Date: 06 Aug 1999 10:10:00 -0700 Vancouver, Richards on Richards August 5th. it was a great show- albeit an annoying one. imagine this- the music and artist you have been admiring are right in front of you- but there are people all around dancing with beer bottles in their hands and purses/bags/wavy teased hair flailing all around. oops, i forgot i was in a straight bar. but there were some cool people- it was after all a drug free evening. we met moby backstage, he remembers me, ask me how things are- i say: hot. we then start speaking of his upcoming UK single- which is slated to be remixed by some of my very own favorite producers du jour ferry corsten, atb, rollo... we small talk, we talk about the tour, the record, the reviews, how he's doing- wow, very nice. DJ noah is spinning some breakbeat, housejams and people are sweating... Moby took his stage at approx.11pm to the tune of 'my weakness'. tears came up because it was a song that i listened to constantly when i got back from my father's funeral, The setlists is a rollercoaster, some hardcore, some trance ( a la GO! which was an amazing surprise- both by the fact that he played it, and how many people actually knew it), some downtempo, some dance (feeling so real, next is the e). funny story about 'next is the e'- this song (according to moby) is not about drugs, however- during the show he says "this next song is dedicated to all those who have stayed out until 8am or 9am".... i dunno. Some crowdpleasers- an uptempo version of 'honey', rocker 'that's when i reach for my revovler', 'why does my heart feel so bad', 'GO!' and of course his closer, 'thousand' which all he does is just stands there and punches the air with his arms as the beat progresses.... an explosion and then it starts all over again. an awesome show. have fun everyone. Danny np: Art of Trance: Madagascar (Ferry Corsten mix) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: julius marx Subject: Re: (mobility) selling out Date: 06 Aug 1999 10:17:44 -0700 (PDT) even if an artist makes a concious decision to make a cheesey pop record that lot's of people will like. there is no gaurentee that anyone will buy it. listen to what makes you feel good. who cares if anyone else likes it not. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian johnston Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:19:47 -0400 Ticketmaster.com shows Sept. 16 as Moby's only Florida show, at Jannus Landing (strange choice). Tickets available online. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keets3@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 14:12:33 EDT Hi, Is that the St. Pete's show?? I'm dying to go!! :) LiZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 14:31:52 -0400 I dont know if i'll be crazy enough to go, it'd be a pain to drive there. Doesnt this seem like a wierd place to just have one florida concert? I mean you think he'd be hitting bigger venues. or not so much bigger.. more. its a damn big state! Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian johnston Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 14:30:22 -0400 first up, all apologies to everyone not in florida who's haveing to follow this thread, but yes. Sept. 16 at jannus landing in st. pete. our friends overseas are concerned the Tampa Bay area is a tiny village with no public transport. sounds like we'll all force ourselves to cross Gandy to hit st. pete on that thursday night. i was still iffy on whether i was gonna ask off for the night (office politics, ya know), but after all this discussion, i don't see how i have a choice. look forward to seeing everybody there. i think BoomBoom Satellites are opening. they have that "push eject" single. how appropriate, i guess, with the Play tour. oh well, enough of my nonsense. we'll let others figure out who's selling out and whatnot. oh has anyone heard the Alan Lomax recordings that Play is reported to sample? i've found http://www.rounder.com/rounder/artists/lomax_alan/ which gives us some background on what he was doing recording singalongs in the Deep SOuth and whatnot. cheers bj Keets3@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > Is that the St. Pete's show?? I'm dying to go!! > > :) LiZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 14:48:28 -0400 First of all Jannus is a large Venue, i think it holds a couple grand. It outdoors which sucks in the summer. Everyone raves about this place, I completely prefer the rubb for concerts. Security at Jannus is abitch and I'm worried about getting to meet Moby at all after the show. But anyway I will be there, maybe we should get a meet together or something. oh yeah and be prepared for the jannus portapottys!! dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:03:42 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Tim Beecher wrote: > Why do people have to have friends' cars to drive them > places? What happened to public transport? Any trains/buses > available? Because it would be mass cheaper to just help a friend pay for gas then to buy a bus or train ticket round trip to Vancouver. Oh well. It's over and done with. I'll just have to wait for the next time he tours. Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: (mobility) meeting moby... Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:18:00 MST i've got a question. when you're at moby shows how do you get the chance to meet him afterwards? if i ever get to go to one of his shows i'd like to do that. it'd be pretty fun. >Security at Jannus is abitch >and I'm worried about getting to meet Moby at all after the show. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne N Thalheimer Subject: Re: (mobility) meeting moby... Date: 06 Aug 1999 16:21:05 -0400 (EDT) when i saw him at the theater of living arts, they had a sign at the t-shirt stand (which is right when you come in-the TLA is pretty teeny) that was like, stay after the show & say hi to moby, which i thought was exceedingly cool. On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Derek ~ wrote: > i've got a question. when you're at moby shows how do you get the chance to > meet him afterwards? if i ever get to go to one of his shows i'd like to do > that. it'd be pretty fun. > > > >Security at Jannus is abitch > >and I'm worried about getting to meet Moby at all after the show. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) meeting moby... Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:21:22 MST oops forgot to include this in my last post. anyone know how often moby goes on tour? in america, close to arizona. i'd really like to get to see him play sometime _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Johnston Subject: Re: (mobility) Mobility @ Florida? Date: 06 Aug 1999 16:53:49 -0400 oh i didn't realize it ws so damn big. i don't do st. pete except when i have to, like now. yeah i thknit'd be fun to meet somewhere, either here in tampa or across the bay in st. pete. more on this i guess when it gets closer. cheers bj david chamberlain wrote: > First of all Jannus is a large Venue, i think it holds a couple grand. > It outdoors which sucks in the summer. Everyone raves about this place, > I completely prefer the rubb for concerts. Security at Jannus is abitch > and I'm worried about getting to meet Moby at all after the show. But > anyway I will be there, maybe we should get a meet together or > something. oh yeah and be prepared for the jannus portapottys!! > > dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) meeting moby... Date: 06 Aug 1999 14:42:28 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Derek ~ wrote: > i've got a question. when you're at moby shows how do you get the chance to > meet him afterwards? if i ever get to go to one of his shows i'd like to do > that. it'd be pretty fun. "I'm a bit of a loser and stick around after the shows." - Moby Said to me during my chat with him at ARO.space in Seattle on May 21, '99. :) So just hang out afterwards, in the lobby, by the concessions, outside, etc and I'm sure you'll bump into him. Look for the cute little balding guy. *hehe* Oh and for anyone in Seattle going to "Paradox" tonite (info at 206.517.2605); I'll be wearing this shirt - http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll2/images/cockybjork.jpg Later! la.da.dee.da.da.da.da.da.Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Travis Zickafoose Subject: (mobility) Seattle Post-Intelligencer article on Moby Date: 06 Aug 1999 16:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Moby infuses electronica with gospel, hip-hop, blues Friday, August 6, 1999 By GENE STOUT SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER POP MUSIC CRITIC Moby's new album, "Play," is an orgy of musical eclecticism. The electronic-music artist turns convention upside-down with his mesmerizing blend of throbbing hip-hop, ambient piano noodlings and early 20th-century blues and gospel fused with modern electronic beats. But "Play" isn't a concept album, Moby explains. "My only agenda in making a record is to make something that I love and that I think is interesting and compelling," he said in a phone interview. "And hopefully in the process, I can make something that other people will love and find interesting too." Moby, who performs at the electronica pavilion at KNDD-FM's "End Fest" tomorrow at the Kitsap County Fairgrounds in Bremerton, put his stamp on techno with the 1990 recording of "Go." It became an anthem of the international rave scene. But his resumé includes punk rocker and soundtrack composer as well as techno artist. "Play," one of coolest electronic-music albums of the year, has the stylistic breadth to appeal to the most dedicated fans of the genre as well as casual but adventurous pop listeners. Most of the album was recorded in his home studio in the South Bronx. Moby wrote all the songs and played all the instruments. He also sang on a number of tracks. "Play" opens with "Honey," featuring singer Bessie Jones' earthy vocals over Moby's funky, shuffling beats and pounding piano. Synthesizers brighten the pleading gospel vocals of "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?" And on "Natural Blues," Vera Hall, a gospel singer of the '40s, sings "Ooh, Lawdy, troubles so hard" over a rumbling honky-tonk piano that takes the floor right out from under you. Moby sampled vintage blues and gospel music from field recordings made by folklorist Alan Lomax in the 1920s, '30s and '40s. Some of Lomax's recordings are available on Atlantic Records and Rhino Records. "(Lomax) spent his whole life just driving around the country and recording as much indigenous music as he could get his hands on," Moby said. Lomax used some of the best recording equipment available at the time. "That's one of the reasons I was able to incorporate these vocals into the album," Moby said. "Some of his recordings are great to listen to, but they're sort of unusable because the sonic quality is so limited. But so many of them were pristinely recorded." Moby, a descendant of "Moby Dick" author Herman Melville, got his nickname from his parents (his real name is Richard Hall). His father died when he was 2. "I grew up in a musically eclectic household," he said. "My mom played piano and she was always listening to different kinds of music, everything from classical music to folk music to rock and jazz and pop and blues. "So I grew up hearing all these different types of music and she had lots of friends who were musicians. We always had a lot of musical instruments around and she encouraged me to take lessons and pursue music in any way that I wanted." Moby once quipped to a reporter that history's first rave might have been the celebration that greeted the arrival of the Ark of the Covenant in Jerusalem. His new album suggests a connection between the giddy excitement of rave music and the inspirational music of church. Though he isn't a religious person, Moby thanks Jesus Christ in the liner notes for "Play." "I love Christ and I love the teachings of Christ," he said. "But I don't see how by anyone's conventional definition I could be considered a religious person. My mother, if I could describe her, was a pantheist. She didn't have any specific religious belief." Moby's current tour included a stop at the recent Woodstock festival, where about $5,000 in Moby T-shirts and merchandise were trashed and burned by rioters. "I do my own merchandise, so it wasn't like they were sticking it to some faceless corporation. It was poor little me getting my T-shirts burned," Moby said. At End Fest, Moby will perform two sets, one as a DJ and another with a full band -- drummer, bassist, and a percussionist. The lineup at the Electronic Pavilion includes Freestylers, Len, Dub Pistols and Jungle Brothers. "End Fest '99," billed as an "All-Star Rock 'n' Roll Grudge Match," also features nearly a dozen modern-rock acts on the main stage. They include Blink 182, Citizen King, Kid Rock, Zebrahead, Primus, Deftones, Orgy, Eve 6, Joydrop and Pennywise. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Even longer post, but please read Date: 04 Aug 1999 17:41:00 -0400 Dan, i believe that Gwen Steffani (old debate! ack! run!) sang a version of South Side for Moby (which he was very thankful for and said she worked super-hard on). IN MY OPINION, if Moby wanted to "appeal" to a larger audience then he DEFINATELY would have chosen her version because she has had more radio play and exposure to mainstream than MOby has (I think we can all agree on the mainstream part). BUT instead, he chose HIS version of the song because he believed it felt more right (or he just liked it better). Wouldn't this suggest that he is just doing whatever-the-hell he wants and if you like it then WHOOOO-HOOO!! I agree that we can't like ALL of MOby's songs. A few here and there are crappy. At least he just doesn't make a WHOLE album of crap like some bands out there who have like ONE single and try to put out an album and MILK the one single for all it's worth (I don't blame them, but screw em anyway!). Later, Jayson -----Original Message----- Fair enough. I agree. I don't think Moby qualifies as a Britney Spears/BSB Sellout at all. I do think that the release of a song like South Side suggests a desire to appeal to that audience. and that in this instance his taste produced a track (South Side) that is reaalllly poppy. I think the song is catchy. But it is not on the same level as Natural Blues or even a poppy song like Bodyrock. have wider appeal that produced "South Side" I do NOT think it is anywhere near as good a song as those are. Dan Lee aka Roy Batty _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MCGERMS@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT Date: 06 Aug 1999 19:43:01 EDT Hi my name is jeremy and Im new to this list. I saw moby at toads and it was a great vibe. So many hot chicks . Moby is very talented. I would see his music go pretty far . I like the way he moves from one side of the stage to other. Well thats all I gotta say. keep it real moby fans Jeremy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) RE: AJ!Live Show Date: 05 Aug 1999 08:56:00 -0400 AJ, I believe the August show is an IN STUDIO kind of thing. I'm sure there will be more to come about this, but it will probably be impossible to get tickets ... - Jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 1:40 PM Attempt number 3. There is a Moby show in Boston on the 26th of August. Can anyone give me any information on this? All it says is the call letters of some radio station. Anyone know anything? Also, how many times do we need to have this selling out conversation. And to Mandi (?) even if Moby sells out you will still like him and it shouldn't matter if he sells out or not. When Prodigy sold old (changing from The Prodigy) their music completely changed and a lot of people who used to be fans didn't like them, or at least their new music anymore. So, should Moby sell out like that (he loves album right?) how can you say that you would still like him? I have around 60 dif Moby CDs, but if he made a an album like Fat of the Land, and continued in that course, I would quickly connect to eBay and make some of you happy. Of course, I doubt Moby would ever do that, but what if? Boston - please help! AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) Peanut: SELL OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN? Date: 05 Aug 1999 12:08:00 -0400 I enjoyed what you had to say Peanut. It's a good reality-check. - Jayson -----Original Message----- I don't need a mansion,or a limo,or my name up in lights.I don't want to be living on the streets again either.But if selling out to smaller degrees is the difference between making pizza's and making music,show mw the dotted line. "The only man I ever knew who didn't sell out was the man who died clutching his unfulfilled dreams in the street" much love peanut ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) In 5-10 years ... who will care? Date: 05 Aug 1999 13:04:00 -0400 EXACTLY! example: Boyz2Men, who the hell cares about them now? nobody (well, maybe a couple people, but screw them too!) - Jayson -----Original Message----- BSB, Spice girls, N-Synch, 98degrees and however many other manufactured pop groups their are making $. The only reason they are around is that people are spending money on their stuff. But hey, in 1 or 2 years will anyone really remember who BSB is or Ricky Martin, in 5-10 they will be completely wiped out of the society's collective consciousness. does it really matter who is more "hardcore" or and "honest" artist? people buy what they like, Pop music is usually trash anyway and you don't walk into a Wal-Mat and honesty expect a good selection of Moby imports....nonono...you get top 40 pop. Everything is relative! --- Chris Stepanek - Designer - Nicholson | NY cstepanek@nny.com - ICQ# 25163388 --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) what makes it great... Date: 05 Aug 1999 13:14:00 -0400 Good question!!! the harmony (like in Porcelain, EverLoving)<-- Sarah agrees! the creativity (like in Sunday, ARP, Shining) I REALLY enjoy when I hear a song and say to myself: "WOW! How did they ever THINK to come up with that?! They're a musical genius!" MOBY makes me think this ALL the time. Some of his music is so SIMPLE yet PERFECT. Moby brings out images and moods in me (and my mind) that other artists just DON'T DO. Why? Maybe he puts more feeling or time into his work. Who knows? But when I hear it I just CANNOT believe it! It's songs like PORCELAIN/EVERLOVING that I can listen to OVER and OVER again and NEVER get tired of listening to them. BTW - I'm REALLY starting to get crazy for "Rushing". The more I hear that song the more I am REALLY liking it. So peaceful! It puts me at ease. good question! - Jayson -----Original Message----- just out of curiosity... what makes a song great: a catchy melody? the artist behind it? the emotion it evokes in you? the lyrics? I was just wondering why you guys love the music that you do... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. Date: 06 Aug 1999 19:57:53 -0500 >my first audio experience of moby was after i bought >animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look >foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at >Endfest, a local mucic festival. As in, New Orleans? Moby's playing at Endfest?! :\ I wish I'd known. :( -- "The unlived life is not worth examining." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. Date: 06 Aug 1999 19:10:41 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, John Turpin wrote: > >my first audio experience of moby was after i bought > >animal rights. i really enjoy his work, and look > >foward to seeing him perform live in 2 days at > >Endfest, a local mucic festival. > > As in, New Orleans? Moby's playing at Endfest?! :\ I wish I'd known. :( Hmmm...I thought Travis was talking about the Endfest here in Seattle that is sponsored by KNDD - 107.7 The End...a local radio station. Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: julius marx Subject: (mobility) moby never.... Date: 06 Aug 1999 19:27:02 -0700 (PDT) moby never talks about anything but his own music. when moby talks about his music, he makes sure that he's always talking about the next thing that will be coming out so people can go buy it. and just to be sure he get's his point across, he says it when half the people aren't listening, so he get's to talk about it himself. he does that with tour dates as well. because no one should have to call bass or ticketmaster or there local ticket seller. and they DEFINITELY shouldn't have to go to someplace that sells tickets and ask when and where he's playing. he's also really concerned that people think he may be a sell out. that's why he keeps making records that have a bunch of different types of music on them so that they can't be classified as one thing. that way the sell millions of albums and he's all over mtv just like the backstreet boys. who moby really admires. oh yeah! and all those things he writes about in his cd inserts, they don't mean anything! he has a ghost writer type those up so that he'll be more excepted by the mainstream and sell even more records! but he never discusses them..no,no! 'k, gotta go, buh-bye! met some cool people on this list! but i'm getting too much email. i think i'll check back in six months or so to see what's going on. not that i expect it to change much. here i go to un-subscribe! which means that christian is, outta your lives! peace-christian _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Live Show (non moby kinda) Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:38:00 -0400 yup! Good ol Boston radio -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 12:12 PM > i believe the call letters of the radio station are: WBCN hey isnt that the beginning of Fatboy Slim's Rockerfella Skank? The little radio dj part in the beginning? yus vunderin eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nodata@pop.prodigy.net" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at toads place in CT Date: 06 Aug 1999 23:45:40 -0400 oh ya i was there too. the show was rocking. it was like the best show i've seen in the last couples of months. - raine Original Message: ----------------- Hi my name is jeremy and Im new to this list. I saw moby at toads and it was a great vibe. So many hot chicks . Moby is very talented. I would see his music go pretty far . I like the way he moves from one side of the stage to other. Well thats all I gotta say. keep it real moby fans Jeremy This message has been posted from Mail2Web (http://www.mail2web.com/) Web Hosting for $9.95 per month! Visit: (http://www.yourhosting.com/) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) most art = Mozart Date: 07 Aug 1999 08:17:05 +0200 what makes a song great? is a great question. someone wrote: > i mean yeah, moby is cool and all > that but nothing off play would make it onto my top 25 songs > of all time. i think NAWWW you dont know that, just guessing, let me tell you about Mozart, the little motherfucker, now do you think Mozart would be thinking he was in the top 10 100 of all times? no way, in the 1800' let's say 1902 NOBODY knew Mozart, he was an ass name from the old days, and in my filosophy he still is, ONLY because of a Hollywood movie he became famous again, some ass played his HAIR or sumthing, i never saw the film, but i tell you, Mozart is the MINOR Michael Jackson of his time... So dont talk about songs getting great, cause it's all Pavlov! Pavlov is what makes a song great When your saliva (???) runs in your mouth, that's when a song is great, it's already there, it was there allways and allways will be there, there's in fact ONLY one song great, and that is the song that GOD sings: and it's called: Why Does My heart Feel So Black? - what makes a song great is the percentage of honesty, ha and the way they have ears open, not forget only 5% of humans pop can listen! not much heh? rest is def(t) think about music as wallpaper, so dont worry, only 5% of Mobility members have ears too that's the way it goes folks, with percentages... i'm sorry, Geniuses have always ears, now how many percentage is Genius? ----------- Last week i bought a cd (5,-) just because it looked right and it was called: "Uncle Meat", , i dont know but i liked the cover, and it's good Speed-garage or something, no.... Concrete metal? eh Dub-techno, nah i dont know, but it's GOOD! So Paul, yo tape is ready! comin up state! "I dont want NOBODY to run my life!" (mixmastermorris) 'where are my clothes?' (kees) -- --------------- i live in a car ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) re review Date: 07 Aug 1999 08:37:19 +0200 danny wrote: > > The setlists is a rollercoaster, some hardcore, some trance ( a la GO! and how about the Satellites? where the Satellites there? k. -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Astroman64@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Jayson: thanx :) Date: 07 Aug 1999 06:00:43 EDT thanx jayson It's always nice to know that I'm not alone. keep it real peanut. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Jayson: thanx :) Date: 07 Aug 1999 12:37:35 EDT I'm not Jayson, my friend...I'm Vedaben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. Date: 07 Aug 1999 12:32:42 -0500 At 1:31 AM -0500 8/7/99, mobility-digest wrote: >> As in, New Orleans? Moby's playing at Endfest?! :\ I wish I'd known. :( > >Hmmm...I thought Travis was talking about the Endfest here in Seattle that >is sponsored by KNDD - 107.7 The End...a local radio station. There's 106.7 "The End" in N.O., as well... sorry. -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) Moby quoted in AP story Date: 07 Aug 1999 12:34:55 -0500 "What Went Wrong at Woodstock '99?" -- Vegetable rights now! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) moby never.... Date: 07 Aug 1999 11:49:48 -0700 (PDT) okay-- i'd just like to start by saying that i spent a really long time writing a response to this then my computer crashed and i lost it all... now i've spent a really long time re-writing what i had said, so i'd really appreciate it if you guys would read it... thanks! :) --------------- here's a little outline to help you through it... tho please read it all, i know it's long, but i made the effort to write it (twice!!) and i really would like some feedback, discussion, etc... thanks! :) 1. moby not human? 2. what is human? - free thinking - to err 3. bringing it back to moby 4. moby's job: tickets/concerts 5. the essays -- TWO QUESTIONS FOR MOBY! --------------- 1. i'm getting this sneaking suspicion that people are expecting moby to be more than human, this kinda troubles me. 2. i think it's really important to realize that we are all human and have the right to believe what we want to... whether it be socially determined to be wrong or not (pending not forcing our wills on another person... yea, that's not okay). for example-- while society has deemed communism wrong, evil, etc... now understand that i'm an economics major and am all for free trade, market economies and all that capitalism stuff, but i think markets/capitalism has failures, especially as markets are often independent from humanity-- so, even tho centrally planned economies have been eliminated from the realm of economic possibilities in this era, i still believe in some of the pillars of communism, specifically the idea of positive human rights (aka that people should have the right to live free from suffering, thus it is the government's job to provide food, water, shelter, and opportunity for success in the form of education)... now someone else may think that i am wrong and argue with m e on it, but that does along these same lines, i think it's key that we note that it is human to err. being human is all about learning and allowing what we learn to shape our opinions-- change our minds-- etc etc. science is a perfect example of this-- added information can change minds. 3. so what does this have to do with moby? (i'm sure a lot of you know this... so i'm probably preaching to the wrong people, but bear with me...) i think it's important to realize that moby too is human and isn't always going to do things we all agree with-- he's gonna do what he feels is necessary. he's doing a job-- being a musician means selling records, and picking and choosing what people know about him is just one of the things he has to do everyday-- what goes on a record, what he says in an interview... why am i talking about this-- i'm sorry. i'm an asshole... but my point: i just think that one can respect him and his music with out agreeing with everything he says or what he chooses not to say. 4. also-- i'd like to say... it is moby's job and his "people's" job to get moby out there, to find an audience and keep and audience, get moby on tour, get him to meet people... etc etc. it really isn't in their best interests to make it difficult for people to find out when and where moby is playing, so i really don't think that inaccessibility of information is done on purpose. i also really think that it would be very 'jenn-o-centric' for me to think/expect moby, or his 'people' to call me up personally to tell me where and when a show is, hand-deliver me some tickets, or have a show come directly to me... i realize that i'm going to have to do some work to get to a show, and if when i get there, the show isn't as good as i wanted it to be, wasn't worth the effort i put in to getting there, i'm gonna lose a little bit of enthusiasm for moby. that's just the way it works. and if a time comes when i stop liking him/his music all together, well i know that there will be someone else t o replace me on his li 5. finally, about the essays-- i think/thought/think (?) that moby writes those essays.... ummm... do you write those essays moby? (moby?)... uhhh... well, beyond that little question-- and even if he doesn't right them-- i still def applaud them-- cause even if someone disagrees with what he has written, the essays are catalysts for individual thought and decision making, encouraging active participation in the world, if only by not accepting the status quo put to us by our governments, families, peers or heroes, and making up our own minds about the state of the world and our lives. even if he doesn't write them, they still mean something... NOTE: i do think, tho, it would be really good if moby did discuss them more (moby?)-- (i do realize that he does discuss the topics)-- rather than just writing them for people to read... i dunno... maybe he does... jeez i dunno. okay-- that's my piece-- second time writing this puppy... and i'm brain-dead from trying to remember it all... hope you all stuck through it... thanks guys--- --J ------------------ >moby never talks about anything but his own music. >when moby talks about his music, he makes sure that >he's always talking about the next thing that will be >coming out so people can go buy it. and just to be >sure he get's his point across, he says it when half >the people aren't listening, so he get's to talk about >it himself. he does that with tour dates as well. >because no one should have to call bass or >ticketmaster or there local ticket seller. and they >DEFINITELY shouldn't have to go to someplace that >sells tickets and ask when and where he's playing. >he's also really concerned that people think he may be >a sell out. that's why he keeps making records that >have a bunch of different types of music on them so >that they can't be classified as one thing. that way >the sell millions of albums and he's all over mtv just >like the backstreet boys. who moby really admires. oh >yeah! and all those things he writes about in his cd >inserts, they don't mean anything! he has a ghost >writer type those up so that he'll be more excepted by >the mainstream and sell even more records! but he >never discusses them..no,no! #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby never.... Date: 07 Aug 1999 14:57:34 EDT OK......I have a question for all of you. I went to see MOBY at the Vanderbilt in Plainview last weekend, and while he was performing on stage I handed him a poem I had written him a few years ago. He said thank you and put it in his pocket. My name and adress were on the back. Do you think he read it? Do you think he'll write me back? I, personally think he is a good-hearted person, if not an angel. Anyone? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) nice one Date: 07 Aug 1999 22:14:45 +0100 does moby autograph stuff if u meet him after his gigs what is the strangest thing anyone got autographed and what did it say ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) -->intro for travis. Date: 07 Aug 1999 14:58:21 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, John Turpin wrote: > >Hmmm...I thought Travis was talking about the Endfest here in Seattle that > >is sponsored by KNDD - 107.7 The End...a local radio station. > > There's 106.7 "The End" in N.O., as well... sorry. Really? Dang...I wonder how many radio stations out there are called The End?? No need to be sorry. :) Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) nice one Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:05:57 -0700 (PDT) i think i already said this, but i had him autography his empty bottle of poland spring water... a friend of mine had him draw his cartoon on her arm. ---Geoffrey Sproule wrote:--- >does moby autograph stuff if u meet him after his gigs what is the strangest >thing anyone got autographed and what did it say > > #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 07 Aug 1999 20:02:48 -0700 i was sitting around at my computer today and i decided to mess around with the famous Moby Disk CD that no one can seem to get to run. well, i tried it with the QuickTime i had on my computer & it wouldn't work.. it kept freezing like it did before. so, i explored the CD and decided to install the old QuickTime available on the CD. lo and behold, it worked! i was able to play the whole cd without it freezing or anything! never did get around to playing with the whole CD because there's really a lot on there! so those of u who are still desperately trying to run the CD, my advice is to install the quicktime on that CD. i had to get a newer version of quicktime (i think it can be downloaded from the microsoft site.. don't remember where i got it, but i didn't have it when i got this computer) first because my computer would only recognize the audio tracks on it. when i got the newer quicktime, that's when the computer was able to read all the files on it. i guess the newer quicktime just can't recognize the old format or something. now, this advice is for PC users. i don't know if macintosh users were having the same problem. i remember the problem for PC users was that fact that it was missing a file that was essential to running the whole CD. if anyone has any questions about this, please feel free to e-mail me. i'm running a windows 98 OS, in case any of u guys need to know that. if i'm able to get it running on 98, then anyone should be able to get it running on 95 or 3.1. plovious thiger2@earthlink.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) moby never.... Date: 07 Aug 1999 21:32:38 +0200 so sad, probably have to look in his wash-machine with all these sweaty shirts, i dunno, send it to US! we'll SAVE it! wah! CaMuS888@aol.com wrote: > > OK......I have a question for all of you. > > I went to see MOBY at the Vanderbilt in Plainview last weekend, and while he > was performing on stage I handed him a poem I had written him a few years > ago. He said thank you and put it in his pocket. My name and adress were on > the back. Do you think he read it? Do you think he'll write me back? I, > personally think he is a good-hearted person, if not an angel. Anyone? -- --------------- "I'm livin' in Limbo!" [Boom Boom Satellites, 1998] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) nice one Date: 08 Aug 1999 13:00:53 EDT After the Vanderbilt show he went backstage and nobody who didnt have backstage passes were allowed. But he was cool onstage, he shook peoples hands and talked to us and crap. He's awesome. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Travis Zickafoose Subject: (mobility) Moby @ Endfest Date: 08 Aug 1999 14:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Last nite, Moby played the Electronica Pavilion at Endfest '99. His DJ session was great, although there weren't a whole lot of people interesting in dancing there... not to say that i didn't go wild! :) Moby has a reputation as a nice guy for a reason. A minute into "Bodyrock," he abrubtly pulled the plug, because evidently something was going wrong out on the floor. "HEY!! HEY!!" And he went on to demand that the security guards mellow out and stop messing with the kids, because he thought one of them was hurting one of the girls. "What's going on here?! Are you alright?" "Can we take her backstage and get her taken care of?" "What's that? No, I didn't know that the symbol on my shirt meant 'light' in Japanese. But thank you." He then apologized to the security for jumping to conclusions, and got a few boo's from the crowd (assholes), and remarked that the security in this area always acted very professionally, and that he has just been in a lot of situations where the security caused more problems than they prevented. Moby went on say that one of the reasons why he got into what we might call the "alternative" music scene is so that he wouldn't have to deal with the macho bullshit that is pervasive in so much rock. This brought him to comment on the whole Woodstock situation, in which he said that he'd like to request that none of the meatheads resonsible ever come to another one of his show, and never buy another one of his albums. (yay!) "Bodyrock" restarted, and Moby asked the crowd to show up those macho assholes, sort of dedicating the song to that. If i remember correctly, Moby also played "Go!, "Porcelain" (which he introduced as a slow, sweet, gentle love song), "Honey" (a very sexy song, so say he), and what he called the greatest disco song, without wanting to sound too egotistical: "Feeling so real." Moby let it be known that if it were possible, he would have sex with everyone of us in the crowd. But since it wasn't, he said he'd play a song, which was like having sex with all of us. For the life of me, i can't remember which song that was. Afterwards, Moby was in the Tower Records booth, doing a signing. After making my way past the people waiting in line for Everclear's autographs(?!), i made it to Moby. I got him to sign my Play cd, and a babydoll Moby shirt for an old flame. It made my day. Moby, thank you. So that's my adventure at Endfest. ;) end transmission. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) tour cd Date: 08 Aug 1999 20:00:53 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEE1D8.B81F5800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is there going to be a CD of live versions of songs available at his = concerts like with the live at the splash club available when he is at = the scala on the 22 September ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEE1D8.B81F5800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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( I really want to go see him in Chicago ) Kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Seattle? Date: 08 Aug 1999 20:28:29 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Stegenga, Scott wrote: > So I'll ask the usual question, anything worth checking out that week music > wise? I'll be with some other folks who have a variety of musical tastes, > but I can always separate from the crowd. I don't expect to try and hook up > with anyone on the list. but if there's something happening live-wise > especially woirth checking out, I'd love to know. Hmmm.....I'm not really sure what type of stuff you are into (clubs, bands, etc) but I'll throw out a few suggestions. *recommended* Aug. 10 - Arling and Cameron with Lo Phat Hi Fi @ ARO.space 925 E. Pike Aug. 10 - Drum'n'Bass @ the Baltic Room 1207 Pine St. Aug. 11 - Bus Stop @ the Crocodile 2200 2nd Ave. with dj's Nasir, Donald Glaude, Brian Lyons & guests Aug. 12 - Unique at Aristocrats 220 4th Ave. S The Cash Money Players and Donald Glaude, Jon Lemmon, Josh Quest I didn't really see any bands listed anywhere that *I* would be interested in seeing so these listings are a bit biased. :) Although I do recommend going to ARO.space on tuesday for Arling and Cameron. And Lo Phat Hi Fi (aka Matt Corwine) is awesome. Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby @ Endfest Date: 08 Aug 1999 23:57:07 EDT "If i remember correctly, Moby also played "Go!, "Porcelain" (which he introduced as a slow, sweet, gentle love song), "Honey" (a very sexy song, so say he), and what he called the greatest disco song, without wanting to sound too egotistical: "Feeling so real." Moby let it be known that if it were possible, he would have sex with everyone of us in the crowd. But since it wasn't, he said he'd play a song, which was like having sex with all of us. For the life of me, i can't remember which song that was." Now we know MOBY doesn't ad-lib at his concerts.....He said the same exact things to us at the Vanderbilt last weekend. I guess he spends hours in his dressing room practicing those lines in the mirror, eh? Still love him though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jake M." Subject: Re: (mobility) An all inclusive type message. Sorta Date: 08 Aug 1999 22:04:17 PDT Dear fellow subscribers of Mobility... Well tonight on 120 minutes (a show I've honestly never ever seen before...only some videos I have seen while surfing) they showed the Bodyrock video...its only the second full moby video I've seen...I loved this video even though bodyrock is not one of may fave songs. It consists of moby and who I assume is the video director auditioning people for the bodyrock video...other than a few disgusted head shakes by moby the video consists of a bunch of people dancing to the song (as if we were watching individual auditions)...very good video in my opinion...fitting for the song. For those of you who have seen it sorry for explaining it... ON the thought of selling out...This is an issue where I admire many rappers (i.e. No LImit Family, Cash Money Records etc etc etc) who flat out say "We are in it for the money"...at least these guys are straight forward about it...they sold out before they had a chance not too...but this is not to say I still don't like some of their music...I do so do hundreds and thousands of other people...so you ask yourself...what really is the point Jake is trying to make...well I think all artists who are in the biz and making money are selling out...but thats not wrong at all...their music can still be great, incredible etc...The difference between groups is that some are not True to themselves..this is the key to the good music...now I won't list groups who I believe are true to themselves..its not my place to judge them...but I do think to some extent all in the biz have sold out...they've gone from doing music for the fun to doing for the dough (but they can go together). So if that makes sense...I am exhausted and have been a couple weeks without caffine... Other stuff...Moby is playing at the Ogden Theater in Denver on Aug 18 at 9pm (all ages) (according to the station sponsoring)...the concert is free if you sign up at www.ktcl.com (I don't like this idea at all...if you knew the station you would know why). If anyone is going please let me know...I know a couple of you are traveling to it...the Ogden seats about 1000 or so...from what I know all under 21 are usually in the balcony...now I hope this is not the case...I want to be right at the stage. I think it is great that moby writes to the list on occasion...I think that having a link with the fans is great...and it increases the "humanity" of his music...Thank you Moby. This is enough from me for a while. Jake "The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato "The pursuit of truth shall set you free even if you never catch it"-Clarence Darrow -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html P.S. > EXACTLY! example: Boyz2Men, who the hell cares about them now? >nobody >(well, maybe a couple people, but screw them too!) hey! I still care about them now...so what are you saying about me then...hehe...just joking...but I do still like Boyz II Men. But that statement could be said about many groups...including ones I know some of us have said we enjoy (i.e. the KLF)... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Jayson: thanx :) Date: 09 Aug 1999 09:20:00 -0400 But I (Jayson) thanked Peanut for the good words earlier. Yer Welcome Peanut. - Jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 12:37 PM I'm not Jayson, my friend...I'm Vedaben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Edward Friday" Subject: (mobility) Gigs in Scotland Date: 09 Aug 1999 06:54:13 PDT Hey there, are there any Scottish Moby fans out there?(especially female ones, Linzi Mitchell in particular) I heard a rumor that he was due to play in the Barrowlands in Glasgow. Any truth in this or not ? Is he playing anywhere else in Scotland or Britain? Pleas let me know it's 3 years since I last saw him and I am suffering withdrawal symptons here. Ed Friday Recorder_1@Hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) bodyrock/interview/liamail! Date: 09 Aug 1999 12:53:13 -0700 (PDT) MST3hreeK..... back to earth.......... my heart will never heal............. no more butter in my coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! right, anyway i saw the BODYROCK video on 1ne20enty last night, and it was crap. just some folks cheezily dancing to a not-as-good-as-the-album-version-version of Bodyrock, with Moby kind of embarisingly looking on. can you say "Praise You"? i'm sorry, if any1ne said that it would'nt be me, but with the slightly grainy shots and Moby not doing much in the video (hey, he hasnt run much in the last 2wo vids!!!! and the last was called Run On!!!!!) i cant but help be reminded of that, and any1ne who sees that will too. very disapointed. the (animated!!!) video for WDMHFSB? MUST be better than that. oh well, it doesnt matter. but why did they have to use a remixed version of BR? they eliminated the secret "Rock the House!" part in the middle!!!! grrrrr..... anyway, i taped part of a moby in'vw from WPKN, conducted by Davo and Annette Szczesiul (or sumthin) in his tour bus (yes he has a bus! i saw it! and next time i meet Annette i'll ask her what it was like in there!) be4our the Toads show. rock! okay, heres the exciting parts: DAVO:So this is gonna be your lounge for the next couple months touring? MOBY:This is, well, the tour plan as of present is 6ix weeks in the U.S., 6ix weeks in Europe, 2wo weeks in the Pacific Rim, like Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and then back to the States for 3hree weeks. ANNETTE:Wow MOBY:And I started doing a promotional trip in the beginning of March, so essentially, from the beginning of March 9inety9ine to January of next year, I'll be away from home D:And home now is what, London? M:New York D:New York M:Yeah, I've been a New York resident for like 10en years now D:Really? I thought you were living in England M:No, I've never, I mean I spend a lot of time in Europe, but thank goodness I've never had to live there D:You live In Manhattan? M:Yeah ....it goes on saying about how cool it is being influenced by the sounds of the city, and how Moby says he's not good at judging his own work so its hard to find where influences are from, then it says about the album, etc. then Davo says: D:I lost my Vatican Commandoes album M:I actually didn't play on the Vatican Commandoes album, the only thing I ever played on was a 7even" in 19ineteen8ighty3hree called "Hit Squad For God", which was the 1st Vaticna Commandoes 7even", and that's the only thing I was involved in D:Right, I remember years ago I used to go down to The Beat back in the 80ighties, and I ecently found out that you used to DJ there M:I DJ'ed there for 4our years D:Which phase? was that when it was in its white phase, where they painted everything white, or was it still all graffiti and vacuum cleaners hanging from the ceiling? M:This was the grafitti/vacuum cleaners, I didnt paint it white, we might have painted it white, it was from 8ighty-4our to 8ighty8ight D:you held ford up there in barbed wire, M:Oh yeah, I DJ'ed there every Friday,Saturday nite, sometimes Wednesday nite, for 4our years then it says about the drinking age in Port CHESTER which was 18ighteen and in CT it was 2wenty1ne, so all this about that..... i probly should go soon... it says about some technical stuff, i'll write that later, and Davo sayd he had a Sonny Terry 10en" record he's been trying to sample and do sumthin with for 3hree-4our years. then Moby comes out, w/Play, "It's been done." i thought that was funny. I've heard Davo's muzik, its pretty good. too bad he doesnt have a web page up anymore (than i know of.....) tried to get the new Billboard, but its disapeard from the library.........so who knows where it (Or moby) is??? got an email from Olly himself, LIAM LYNCH!!! about the words to the Sgt. Blind Kiwi Tarzan song, here they are from the horses mouth: (ding di-di-di-DING!) I'm your greasy tiger lover I'm 50ifty bucks worth of waffles I'm your beefy tender serpent I'm your ravioli ancient man I'm your sexy Chinese dentist I'll meet you at tooth hurty yeah!!!!!! sung a lot like Tom Waits, on top of the Casio rock waltz tempo at like 100bmp or sumthin, i dont know. rock!!! got my MONTY PYTHON cds today!!!! and RYU OPPOSITES ARE 1NE!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! but im stuck at the library so i cant listen to um....... wah!!!!! THE KIDS OF TODAY DO NOT KNOW WHO WEIRD AL IS!!!!!! FIGHT THIS DISEASE!!! BUY A KID RUNNING WITH SCISSORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: RE: (mobility) what makes it great... Date: 09 Aug 1999 13:34:25 -0700 (PDT) nOn Thu, 5 Aug 1999 jgmagnus@bkb.com wrote: > the harmony (like in Porcelain, EverLoving)<-- Sarah agrees! > the creativity (like in Sunday, ARP, Shining) Ack! Yes. Just bring up my heartbreak about not getting to see Moby perform 'Porcelain' live by mentioning it! *boohoo* :) But yes I do agree with you about 'Porcleain'. Just those few notes right after he sings "tell the truth you never wanted me....tell me" hit me just right and always get a sigh out of me and put a smile on my lips. :) I think what makes a song great for me is if it feels like it has genuine powerful emotions sewn into it. 'Headphones' by Bjork is this way for me. Every word feels carefully chosen and conveys such powerful feelings. Also it's a very special song for me because it is the first one I ever heard her perform live and in person. 'Unravel' is another good one by Bjork. Hearing her sing it a cappella is overwhelming! Another Moby song that always gets me is 'when it's cold i'd like to die'....such an aching song. Also there are songs that are great just because they are fun to listen to....almost goofy. :) Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Ramos" Subject: (mobility) OOT: Gatecrasher? Date: 09 Aug 1999 20:39:02 GMT Has anybody here heard anything from the Gatecrasher cds? Found this somewhere: http://www.gatecrasher.co.uk Thanks! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 09 Aug 1999 16:59:24 -0500 >so those of u who are still desperately trying to run the CD, my advice is >to install the quicktime on that CD. i had to get a newer version of >quicktime (i think it can be downloaded from the microsoft site.. don't I bet it's not on MS's site! :) Try >now, this advice is for PC users. i don't know if macintosh users were >having the same problem. I doubt any Mac users are having problems with it. Every revision of Windows seems to break all the enhanced CDs that worked with the previous version, while I can still run the first-available E-CDs on Mac OS 8.6. (Gotta plug my platform when the opportunity arises! Hey, Moby uses Macs. No flames, please.) -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 09 Aug 1999 23:15:50 -0700 yeah.. i know u can download from the quicktime site.. but i dunno how i got this copy on my computer because i never had it before. microsoft update allows u to download programs like the quicktime.. that's the only way i could have gotten it because i haven't downloaded the program from the site. John Turpin wrote: > >I bet it's not on MS's site! :) Try > but in any case, once u have a current version of quicktime installed, it will recognize the older one on that cd and then upload that one from the cdrom. if it worked for me, it should work for u guys!!! and if u guys have any Q's, feel free to ask... i can try to provide any info that i can find. and i saw that bodyrock video last night and i couldn't help but laugh my ass off! i saw moby on the cell phone at the beginning and i was like, "what?! why's he on a cell?" those dancing fools were the best!!!! anyways... plovious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" Subject: (mobility) I'm back Date: 10 Aug 1999 09:44:40 PDT Hello people. This is Robert Taylor. I have been away from Mobility for the last few months due to major problems with my computer. I'm now trying to get things running again. My email used to be phathead@flash.net. It is no longer. I contributed several tracks for Thanks 2 but I have absolutly no idea what is going on with it because I've been without a computer. I would appreciate anyone who can get me back up to speed on what's going on. Thanks. Robert nobuttonstopush@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: (mobility) i'm back as well Date: 10 Aug 1999 10:28:07 MST hey it's me again i just got resubscribed again. Did I miss much? -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Gall Subject: Re: (mobility) I'm back Date: 10 Aug 1999 15:29:49 -0500 yea, i was wondering about Thanks 2 as well. i know that i could probably look back through all those old posts but i'm too lazy :) ....so are all the tracks in, and if so, does anyone know when it will be available? Thanks, Anthony ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 11:44 AM > Hello people. This is Robert Taylor. I have been away from > Mobility for the last few months due to major problems with my > computer. I'm now trying to get things running again. > My email used to be phathead@flash.net. It is no longer. > > I contributed several tracks for Thanks 2 but I have absolutly > no idea what is going on with it because I've been without a > computer. I would appreciate anyone who can get me back up > to speed on what's going on. > > Thanks. > Robert > nobuttonstopush@hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) what makes it great... Date: 10 Aug 1999 12:41:00 -0400 I wonder why no remixes of WICILTD ever came out. I know there's that one version on EIRemixed but that is just without the lyrics basically. Anyone ever hear of a remix of it? - jayson -----Original Message----- Another Moby song that always gets me is 'when it's cold i'd like to die'....such an aching song. Also there are songs that are great just because they are fun to listen to....almost goofy. :) Sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.marian@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (mobility) Clifton Park Show Aug. 2nd Date: 10 Aug 1999 23:46:51 -0400 (EDT) I know that many people on the list have had the good fortune of seeing Moby perform live, and the experience is almost universally enjoyed and appreciated. I was sure it would be an amazing show, and it definitely was- it was worth the eight hour each way bus ride! It has been much easier to describe the concert and my feelings in having seen it to friends who are not fans of Moby; writing to you is somewhat like preaching to the converted. I came away feeling exhilerated from the manic dancing, lucky and thankful to have seen Moby perform the songs that I have enjoyed over the past years, and humbled. I guess a lot of people appreciate Moby as a public figure as well as his music, which cannot be said of many performers today. He really seems to care and respect his audience, and is passioned by the music he performs; the profuse "Thank yous" with which he responded to the applause of the crowd seemed genuine, and how can you doubt the sincerity of someone who works as hard as Moby does in the course of a performance? It was incredible. He was incredible. I'm lucky to have seen him. I hope that at some point, all of you have the opportunity. Don't miss it if you do- he is amazing. Thanks, Meaghan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PuffDanny2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Voodoo Child Date: 11 Aug 1999 00:34:23 EDT hey, can anybody tell me anything about to Voodoo Child CD "Demons/Horses"? Basically, is it any good and/or comparable to Moby's other work? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 10:46:10 +0200 Hi sunlovers! always thanks everyone who posts interviews and reviews of concerts, i read them all, but today i ran into some real NEGATIVE value phrases Now look-a here: 1. > D:Really? I thought you were living in England > M:No, I've never, I mean I spend a lot of time in > Europe, but thank goodness I've never had to live > there what is this? Discriminating the OLD WORLD? Motherfucking take some History lessons, you'd found out that without Europe there wouldnt be ANY USA, especially NO BIG APPLE! take three generations back of the Hall-family adn I sure you'll be in Europe! So ehh... remark stinks. 2. and i now finally undrestand why they have these (for us Europeans) totally nonsensical minimum AGE limits at pop-concerts, you'll never ever have that in here, ppl take 4-year olds to concerts, can sit on their shoulders. Good for theire musical education! > > Moby let it be known that if it were possible, he > would have sex with everyone of us in the crowd. But > since it wasn't, he said he'd play a song, which was > like having sex with all of us. For the life of me, i > can't remember which song that was." But, if I as a dad, don't want my 15-year old daughter gang-banged by a GROUP, why should it otherway round, One man fucking a whole group, would that than be allright? I dont think so, Group-sex Moby, is an ancient & stupid idea from the sixties, I still hear your mom say: "Yeah we had a great time in the sixties, so now you dont have a father!" and if i were at a concert where he'd say that, i'd scream: "Yeah, you probably better PLAY than you FUCK! So Play that SONG!" kees -- --------------- "ALL I WANT IS TO BE LOVED NOW!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Voodoo Child Date: 11 Aug 1999 08:57:00 -0400 Please see notes in the DISCOGRAPHY at www.moby.org -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 12:34 PM hey, can anybody tell me anything about to Voodoo Child CD "Demons/Horses"? Basically, is it any good and/or comparable to Moby's other work? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 10:07:29 EDT Kees, You seem very angry. Yeah, we don't always agree with what Moby says but come now, who are we to criticize anyone? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 09:10:00 -0400 Kees, You're crazy. I got the feeling that he meant something totally DIFFERENT by that remark. I hear it's terribly expensive to live in London, England so naturally I would not like to live there because it's too expensive. This could be a logical reason why Moby might say such a thing. I ALSO hear it's REALLY expensive (and beautiful) in Paris, France. Although I'd probably LOVE living there, I'd be broke pretty damn quick so I'm glad I don't live there too. You see what I mean? Besides ... what's with this "If it wasn't for us you would never be there ..." crap? What? This whole continent over here never would have been found? EVER? BY ANYONE other than Europeans? That's rediculous. It's also rediculous to state stuff like "You never would have been there if it were not for us!". That just doesn't make sense. Then the USA has to come back and say "Where you YOU guys be if not for us during WWI & WWII??" There is not point in saying these things. It leads nowhere. - Jayson Magnus -----Original Message----- Now look-a here: 1. > D:Really? I thought you were living in England > M:No, I've never, I mean I spend a lot of time in > Europe, but thank goodness I've never had to live > there what is this? Discriminating the OLD WORLD? Motherfucking take some History lessons, you'd found out that without Europe there wouldnt be ANY USA, especially NO BIG APPLE! take three generations back of the Hall-family adn I sure you'll be in Europe! So ehh... remark stinks. kees -- --------------- "ALL I WANT IS TO BE LOVED NOW!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 15:25:53 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Okay, now others are over-reacting. I think what Kees meant was that there would be no U.S.A., as you know it, if it wasn't for europe. Maybe the native american indians would've made the americas a much better place then it is now - and showed europe a thing or to about living in harmony with nature and not being greedy, ego-centric, aggressive, possessive twats!? Personally I love living in this country, at the moment, and I've been to many others places(including New York City). Home is where the heart is and, I suppose, it's what you're used to. There again, I may find somewhere in India or the Amamzonian forest, or some tropical island, I might prefer to call home some day? Who knows? I'm always willing to explore and experience different avenues, if possible. TMB ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 10:33:31 EDT Ok..... So what if Moby wouldn't like to live in Europe!?!?! We don't know his reasons for saying that, so why are we jumping down his throat? Maybe he just doesn't like it there! Looks like someone is finding ridiculous reasons to hate & criticize Moby.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) advocate/interview cont'd Date: 11 Aug 1999 08:03:11 -0700 (PDT) saw this in the NH Advocate yesterday: FINAL BLESSINGS By Christopher Arnott T-shirts spied at the Moby show at Toad's Place on July 25: Phish. Robert Plant. Chisel. Naked Raygun. Wells Guitars. Schoolhouse Rock. (i think i saw that 1ne!)Daytona Beach Spring Break. Allman Brothers. The Fairy from Fractured Fairy tales (okay that last one was ours)(see below for tshirts I saw that they missed) plus miscelaneous vegan and animal rights slogans. We wouldn't have been surprised if some fans had shown up in choir robes. Moby has a good sense of his crossover appeal, so he (guitar, vocals) and three fellow musicians (bass, drums, percussion) delivered a set that, despite being dependant on pre-recorded elements, behaved like a live rock show rather than a DJ party. There were also illuminating lighting effects, and this is where---even if you don't know that Moby is a devout and moralistic Christian (someones not on Mobility!!!)---the messiah complex innate in most DJs/producers emerged. After the band was dismissed for the finale, Moby was bathed in spotlights as he raised himself up on a platform high above the crowd, stretched out his arms crucifixion-stlye, and just stood there basking in the light (ah yes, the infamous "Thousand" finale works every time) Didn't sing a word this time. Just basked and glowered Oh, there was that other divine moment, when Moby took the mic to ask the Toad's lackeys if he could get some bottled water to quench the band's thirst in the hot packed club. "If there was enough water for everyone, i'd go get it." he added with a glow of Christian charitableness. "Next time, I proise we'll bring water from everyone." You have expected someone at this rockish revival meeting to pass him a few loaves and fishes to see what he could do to them. Well, he might eat the bread, he wouldnt eat fish tho.. and i remember this, he had some dudes throw water bottles into the crowd. i touched one, but i didnt get a grip on it. and several times, the band members sprayed us with water so i got wet there. tshirts i saw: Soul Coughing _El Oso_ Atari Teenage Riot "Destroy 2000 Years Of Culture" Dead Milkmen "Fear Of A Beige Planet Tour" (ROCK!! I almost screamed at that guy YOU ROCK!!!) Moby (i saw a bunch of little kids with Moby EIW tour shirts, pretty cool) Juno Reactor (i was talking to that guy, he said he went into JR's tour bus!!!!!) KMFMS (yes KMFMS, it looked like a FDM album cover but it said KMFMS and said www.kmfms.com so go there and find out what it is.....) yay!!!!! okay heres more from that interview i told u about...... it says about why Moby does liners and not song lyrics (it takes away from the song to write down the lyrics and anyway the lyrics are all chantlike, who needs that written down?) Davo:can I ask you a technical question? Moby:Sure D:I saw a photo on the internet, it showed a Yamaha Tx16W in your act, do you still use that? M:I use that maybe once every couple of years for a single string sound D:one sound? M:Yeah, it used to be my only sampler, it was the first sampler i ever bought, it was the most obscure difficulties of equipment I ever had D:You still use the Yamaha operating system rather than the Typhoon operating system? M:I didn't know there was a Typhoon operating system D:You're familiar with Rebirth? M:Yeah D:One of the guys who wrote Rebirth, one of his first programs, the UOS (?) for the TX, which makes it a lot easier (of course, i have no clue what any of this means, so if its wrong dont blame me!!!) M:Oh, Im sure D:I got one at home that I use all the time M:I got my Akai S950, S1000, S3000, S3200 which the operating systems on those are so intuitive that my TX16W just basically collects dust. D:Yeah let me know if you ever want to sell it cuz I love that 12-bit crunch sound on the drums, I love that very dirty powerful sounding sampler... then it talks about the vocal samples, then my tape ran out. I remember him talking about Toad's Place, hed been there so many times, He saw RHCP (chili peppers) in like 86 or whatever, he saw the Sugarcubes, he saw Aztec Camera, etc. okay guess thatz it bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 12:02:37 -0400 > Kees, > > You're crazy. I'll vote to that! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Date: 11 Aug 1999 13:15:19 -0700 I just saw him perform at Woodstock a few days before, so I liked the fact that he could play a full setlist. I'm sure he plays about the same setlist for the whole show except the encore. Of course he did a 1000, but also he broke out with some old rock tunes like Black Sabbath's Paranoid, Sweet Child of Mine, and some jazz cover of Stairway to Heaven. I like the fact that most of his equipment is beat to all hell and duck taped, especicially his famed drum octopad with only 3 programs that work. He even said "I would like to have sex with all of you." I was right behind the monitor where he kept jumping up and standing. It was a course a great show and everything. Everyone bailed after the concert, so me and a friend stood by the tour bus. He walked out and we kind of humbly waved at him, and he waved for us to come over. We didn't want to swamp him or anything after he was just swamped with press. He drew his little self portrait with a "love moby" on my tshirt, he even took our information and phone numbers. He talked about not being used to Long Island that much, and used to the Manhattan scene a bit more, and is home town in conneticut. I asked him why he doesn't use any animal rights song, and he said because his bassist doesn't know the songs yet. I of course did the whole suckup thing to him, cause I didn't know what to say. I told him that Animal Rights is my favorite album even though I know he took a lot of shit for it. And he said thank thank you. He is really humble and nice and down to earth. We eventually let him go to his tour bus though, cause after jumping around on stage for2 hrs, you got to be tired. Anyways it was a really good show in a small setting. Anyways, later.. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Date: 11 Aug 1999 13:27:38 EDT Hey Chris, I was at the Vanderbilt that night too! I was the one who handed him somehting while he was performing, in case you saw. I was gonna wait for him by his bus but we thought he'd get outta there pretty late. What time was it, do u remember? Are u the one I asked for a light? ~Vedaben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 11:45:55 -0700 (PDT) kees dude, chill! #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Jerryson Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 11 Aug 1999 12:10:41 -0700 (PDT) That was a very hard to understand email...but just wanted to say one thing. I have had some history lessons and I know that half the royal family is inbred which is a much more "ancient" practice than group sex... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Demons/Horses Date: 11 Aug 1999 21:20:05 +0200 >hey, can anybody tell me anything about to Voodoo Child CD "Demons/Horses"? >Basically, is it any good and/or comparable to Moby's other work? I like it very much! Both songs are VERY repetitive and are about 20 minutes of hard techno acid each. bam bam bam bam bam bleep bleep bleep bam bam bam bleep They are a bit like Desperate from the Higher/Desperate single from Voodoo Child, but muuuuch longer and more minimal. Bart np: Eiffel 65 - Blue (dub mix) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Date: 11 Aug 1999 16:41:14 -0700 Vedaben I can't remember if you asked me for a light or not.... I dunno we waited for about 30 mins, wasn't too long...I think around 2 a.m. he came out. >Hey Chris, > > I was at the Vanderbilt that night too! I was the one who handed him >somehting while he was performing, in case you saw. I was gonna wait for him >by his bus but we thought he'd get outta there pretty late. What time was >it, do u remember? Are u the one I asked for a light? ~Vedaben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Plainview Long Island June 31 show Date: 11 Aug 1999 17:41:59 EDT We wanted to wait but figured he'd never come out and we'd look like assholes. He asked u for your address? Do u think he's gonna write? I wrote my name and address on the back of the poem i gave him....still waiting foor him to write me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 11 Aug 1999 21:24:53 -0500 >>I bet it's not on MS's site! :) Try >> >yeah.. i know u can download from the quicktime site.. but i dunno how i >got this copy on my computer because i never had it before. microsoft >update allows u to download programs like the quicktime.. that's the only >way i could have gotten it because i haven't downloaded the program from the >site. Considering how QuickTime competes with Windows Media Player (or whatever it's called), and especially since MS tried to get Apple to kill QT, I still doubt MS would facilitate your downloading of QT. But anyway... -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PuffDanny2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC Date: 11 Aug 1999 23:32:32 EDT Hey everyone, tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show in DC. It's at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors open at 7. Does anybody know anything about this club and will anybody else be going? Lemme know. Later player haterz. -Danny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Schnippel" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in DC Date: 12 Aug 1999 00:15:21 -0400 Nation is D.C.'s coolest rave/dance club. They consistently get top acts like Sasha & Digweed and Paul Oakenfeld. I was very excited to hear that Moby's stop through D.C. will be at nation 9:30 club.. Nation's facilities (its huge with plenty of places to chill out or dance) are much better suited for 'dance' acts. Nation is in a bad neighborhood so bring cash for parking if you have a car and park in their secured lot. Its 19 and over only and they have a stack of rules to keep themselves from getting busted again, so no toys or candy or stickers or cameras or pencils/pens etc. I'm at nation about twice a month anymore and I definitely definitely plan on going.. If anyone has any more questions .. let me know.. ;) any other dc-ravers here? -schnippy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > PuffDanny2@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:33 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC > > > Hey everyone, tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show > in DC. It's > at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors open at 7. Does > anybody know > anything about this club and will anybody else be going? Lemme > know. Later > player haterz. > -Danny > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in DC Date: 12 Aug 1999 02:05:35 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEE467.2A46CCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickets go on sale on friday for moby at nation, but where? the show is = on friday 9/10, right? any vegans out there? --dave -----Original Message----- From: Greg Schnippel To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:18 AM Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in DC =20 =20 =20 Nation is D.C.'s coolest rave/dance club. They consistently get top acts like Sasha & Digweed and Paul Oakenfeld. I was very excited to hear that Moby's stop through D.C. will be at nation 9:30 club.. Nation's facilities (its huge with plenty of places to chill out or dance) are much better suited for 'dance' acts.=20 =20 Nation is in a bad neighborhood so bring cash for parking if you have a car and park in their secured lot. Its 19 and over only and they have a stack of rules to keep themselves from getting busted again, so no toys or candy or stickers or cameras or pencils/pens etc.=20 =20 I'm at nation about twice a month anymore and I definitely definitely plan on going.. If anyone has any more=20 questions .. let me know.. ;) =20 any other dc-ravers here? =20 -schnippy =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > PuffDanny2@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:33 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC >=20 >=20 > Hey everyone, tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show=20 > in DC. It's=20 > at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors open at 7. Does=20 > anybody know=20 > anything about this club and will anybody else be going? Lemme=20 > know. Later=20 > player haterz. > -Danny >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEE467.2A46CCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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any vegans out=20 there?
 
--dave
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From:=20 Greg Schnippel <schnippy@sigmanet.net>
To:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 12, 1999 12:18 AM
Subject: RE: = (mobility)=20 Moby in DC


Nation is D.C.'s coolest = rave/dance club.=20 They consistently
get top acts like Sasha & Digweed and Paul=20 Oakenfeld. I
was very excited to hear that Moby's stop through=20 D.C.
will be at nation 9:30 club.. Nation's facilities (its = huge
with=20 plenty of places to chill out or dance) are much
better suited = for=20 'dance' acts.

Nation is in a bad neighborhood so bring cash = for=20 parking
if you have a car and park in their secured lot. Its = 19
and=20 over only and they have a stack of rules to keep themselves
from = getting=20 busted again, so no toys or candy or stickers
or cameras or = pencils/pens=20 etc.

I'm at nation about twice a month anymore and I=20 definitely
definitely plan on going.. If anyone has any more=20
questions .. let me know.. ;)

any other dc-ravers=20 here?

-schnippy

> -----Original = Message-----
> From:=20 owner-mobility@lists.xm= ission.com
>=20 [mailto:owner-mobility@l= ists.xmission.com]On=20 Behalf Of
> PuffDanny2@aol.com
> = Sent:=20 Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:33 PM
> To: mobility@lists.xmission.com
>=20 Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC
>
>
> Hey = everyone,=20 tickets go on sale this friday 13th for Moby's show
> in DC. = It's=20
> at "The Nation." It's an all ages show and doors = open at=20 7. Does
> anybody know
> anything about this club and = will=20 anybody else be going? Lemme
> know. Later
> player=20 haterz.
> -Danny
>
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEE467.2A46CCC0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 11 Aug 1999 23:57:38 -0700 there is an option of MS on the web site... so MS can support it. plov -----Original Message----- >>>I bet it's not on MS's site! :) Try >>> >>yeah.. i know u can download from the quicktime site.. but i dunno how i >>got this copy on my computer because i never had it before. microsoft >>update allows u to download programs like the quicktime.. that's the only >>way i could have gotten it because i haven't downloaded the program from the >>site. > >Considering how QuickTime competes with Windows Media Player (or whatever >it's called), and especially since MS tried to get Apple to kill QT, I >still doubt MS would facilitate your downloading of QT. But anyway... > >-- > The C.O.D. / John Turpin / >"I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me > My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 11 Aug 1999 23:57:09 MST what is the moby disk? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 12 Aug 1999 03:37:11 +0200 CaMuS888@aol.com wrote: > > Kees, > > You seem very angry. Yeah, we don't always agree with what Moby says but > come now, who are we to criticize anyone? yeah, that's the whole POINT, i was only surprised about M.'s criticism, so there yo go, maybe moby is sometimes angry too? -- --------------- 'POEMS? IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW SOUL FOOD FROM THE MIND's KITCHEN, YOU DIG?' -sifl-, www.sifl-n-olly.com/poetry/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) eclipsmail for Moby Date: 12 Aug 1999 06:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Why would this become ridiculouse to you now it happens every time that Moby says something to the press or to this list case(s) in point: Gwen, Fatboyslim, Kid Rock and selling out. Give the guy a break HE IS HUMAN. yes folks like you and I. Just be happy reading or listening, sont read in to it and just go dance. Trust me you'll sleep better, I do. Peace, Bri --- CaMuS888@aol.com wrote: > Ok..... > > So what if Moby wouldn't like to live in Europe!?!?! > We don't know his > reasons for saying that, so why are we jumping down > his throat? Maybe he > just doesn't like it there! Looks like someone is > finding ridiculous reasons > to hate & criticize Moby.... === _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:08:49 PDT Date: 12 Aug 1999 11:09:24 -0600 Hi, I'm new to the list, so here goes: Name/Alias: DJ Orothos (aka pip) Age: Somewhere between 15 and 20. Moby: I first bought PLAY after hearing GO on the hackers soundtrack, then got the Honey/Run On singles and EVERYTHING IS WRONG. First heard: On a Maximum Electronica soundtrack, I heard FEELING SO REAL and it knocked me out with its Philip Glassian arpeggios. I have my own band of interest, Corrugated Funk producing ambient/techno/minimalism/social satire. I like Moby, KLF, Orb, Orbital, Beatles, Dylan, classical, norman cook, DEEP FORest, Steve Reich, Underworld, Vangelis, Philip Glass and filmmusic (Elliot Goldenthal, john williams). I have a webpage at www.mp3.com/CorrugatedFunk and members.xoom.com/deepremix. Okay? Okay. Too much information. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 12 Aug 1999 10:21:16 -0700 moby disk is an enhanced CD that, if working right, will allow u to interact with what is happening on the screen. it has music videos & interviews with moby and a bunch of other things. people have been having a problem running it on their PCs because an important file for quicktime is missing to run this particular CD. that's why there's all this discussion about it... people have been upset that it's not working. so, has anybody gotten it to run yet??? plov -----Original Message----- >what is the moby disk? > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) Hymn remix question (again, sorry....) Date: 12 Aug 1999 13:29:22 -0400 friends - i got an email from Bryan at imports.com a few days ago, and he had been keeping me posted about the arrival (via UPS) of "hymn" remixes. the following is what he wrote to me, but i wanted to ask if anyone could tell me whether any of the following tracks are AKA the "lucky orgasm" remix. (i doubt it, but i just thought i'd ask.) >Jeff, >The Hymn CDs have arrived. These are Euro imports. CD(1) has four tracks >1. Hymn - This is my Dream (mix), 2. All That I Need is to Be Loved (H.O.S. >mix) 3. Hymn European mix and 4. Hymn Laurent's Wake Up (mix) >CD2 is an Alt. quiet version of Hymn 33.33333333 mins. long. damn....it's hard to get hold of the LO remix!!) can anyone help me out?? thanks in advance!! jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: (mobility) introduction thingy Date: 12 Aug 1999 14:01:43 EDT * Name-Jeff * Age-Im 15 * What is in your Moby collection-i have a promo of bodyrock, play,animal rights, ambient, early underground, and one more but i forget what its called * Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are-i first heard him through a magaizine article. I'm not to sure which one, but i know i did. In my oppinion i beleive i am a very big fan. not a diehard fan, but fairly big. * Other artists you like- i like hatebreed,prototype909, at the drive-in and much much more * Any other interesting information you wish to share-i think of all his CD's,tapes, promo's, and vinyl's i have heard; animal rights is the best by far!!! i think he should continue on that path of music as opposed to play (not that play was a bad album). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Hymn remix answer Date: 12 Aug 1999 21:00:24 +0200 Jeff wrote: >.....but i wanted to ask if anyone could tell >me whether any of the following tracks are AKA the "lucky orgasm" remix. (i >doubt it, but i just thought i'd ask.) Nope, none of them were the "lucky orgasm mix" >damn....it's hard to get hold of the LO remix!!) can anyone help me out?? Here's a tip: concentrate your searching more on (online) shops that only sell from their own stock than on the larger companies that can only place backorders. The single you want is long OUT OF PRINT! The only CD single with the "lucky orgasm mix" is the regular German Hymn single MUTE INT 826.630 (CD MUTE161) on the Mute/Intercord label. You just got the 2 (pretty common) UK Hymn singles... If you don't mind buying/playing vinyl, the "lucky orgasm mix" is also on the US promo 12", on the first UK promo 12" and the regular UK 12" (12Mute161) Bart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Is this still healthy? Date: 12 Aug 1999 21:00:39 +0200 OK fellow Mobility members........friends, I want your honest opinions on this. I counted the things in my Moby collection and I was wondering if this is still healthy, if I'm not becoming a severe Moby addict... This is what I found: 01 Moby promo frisbee 01 Exclusive Moby song on a compilation CD 02 Moby 7" singles 03 Moby T-Shirts (of which 1 is a promotional shirt for PLAY) 16 Moby CD albums 27 Moby 12" singles 32 Remixes Moby did for other artists 53 Moby CD singles & EPs Bart (who finally forced himself to listen to something other than Moby, namely: Eiffel 65 - Blue (blue Paris mix)) PS. I'm going to get my second copy of EIW+Underwater next week! My first disc got scratched because it could freely rotate on the crappy tray. It didn't take me too long to find it, just keep browsing GEMM, it pops up every now and then.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Is this still healthy? Date: 12 Aug 1999 14:59:35 EDT thats kinda sick man....no offense ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: (mobility) the surprise visit... Date: 12 Aug 1999 11:59:47 -0700 (PDT) okay-- so i've been a member of this mailing list for about a month now... give or take... and since i've been here moby has posted once... which was a huge surprise to me, as i wasn't expecting it at all... my question is, does he drop in often, or was that a rare event that i was oh-so-lucky enough to witness? --J #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) ***Moby Disk ~ it works!!!*** Date: 12 Aug 1999 12:12:55 MST ok that's cool. now where do you get the moby disk? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) answers, etc. Date: 12 Aug 1999 12:44:11 PDT Somebody asked how frequently Moby writes to us. He just started recently, right after Play was released. I think he's written 3 or 4 times. He wrote to tell us about why Gwen Stefanu was thanked in Play (she sang an unreleased South Side), to explain his point of view on selling out, and to give us his top ten. There may have been one other time. Thanks Moby! I'll stand up and be counted in Bart's health survey: I have bout 50 Moby CDs, 6 or 7 of which are him remoxing somebody else. I have about 50 or 60 Moby records, about 15 of which are Moby remixing somebody else. I have 2 Moby t-shirts & 1 tank top, as well as 4 posters, maybe 5. Couple of stickers on my turntable lids, too. I guess we don't have enough white blood cells to drive out the rhythym infection, Bart! :) Moby Disk is an Elektra release, and is still in print as far as I know. I see it frequently at Tower, and I had no trouble running it on a 486 with one of the last releases of DOS & Windows 3.11. I recommend you get the Winter '85 Rockvideo Monthly instead, which has all that interview footage from Disk, plus more, and full videos of Hymn (TIMD), ETYM, & FSR. Disk does has a Move video (clip, I think?), and a silly remix toy, which the video doesn't. The only super cool thing on Disk that I like having it for is Moby's history of dance music, which is accesible from the pre-exit screen on Disk. -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lainey3333@aol.com Subject: (mobility) beautiful...... Date: 12 Aug 1999 17:03:26 EDT I know that many of you are into Radiohead, and also collectors of MP3s, so I recomend that everyone get "true love waits" at audiofind.com This was recorded live, and is a new song so it may be hard to find elsewhere. It's incredible...Radiohead, among very few others, is a group that amazes me everytime....I am overcome when I listen to them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) Is this still healthy? Date: 12 Aug 1999 14:52:27 -0700 (PDT) LOL... oh give him a break --- Pokey8984@aol.com wrote: > thats kinda sick man....no offense > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Hymn remix question (again, sorry....) Date: 12 Aug 1999 16:06:00 -0400 YOU GOT THE WRONG ONE. I have had this same problem. But at least I got the alt.quiet.version which I didn't have before. Man is that a strange track. - Jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 1:29 PM friends - i got an email from Bryan at imports.com a few days ago, and he had been keeping me posted about the arrival (via UPS) of "hymn" remixes. the following is what he wrote to me, but i wanted to ask if anyone could tell me whether any of the following tracks are AKA the "lucky orgasm" remix. (i doubt it, but i just thought i'd ask.) >Jeff, >The Hymn CDs have arrived. These are Euro imports. CD(1) has four tracks >1. Hymn - This is my Dream (mix), 2. All That I Need is to Be Loved (H.O.S. >mix) 3. Hymn European mix and 4. Hymn Laurent's Wake Up (mix) >CD2 is an Alt. quiet version of Hymn 33.33333333 mins. long. damn....it's hard to get hold of the LO remix!!) can anyone help me out?? thanks in advance!! jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek ~" Subject: Re: (mobility) answers, etc. Date: 12 Aug 1999 16:58:05 MST hey can someone tell me where to get some moby merchandise? i'm looking for some tshirts. a while ago i ordered a catolog but it's never come yet... i was really hoping it would come soon. -derek _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hytinic@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby interview online Date: 13 Aug 1999 01:57:23 EDT Mobyfans... My first worthwhile contribution to the list in a LONG time... =) There's a Moby interview online at a Dallas radio website: www.kdge.com Also, off the subject, I recently downloaded a mp3 player, and was wondering where to get decent music for it. I'm new to this technology stuff... ;o) Moby stuff would be great, but anything is appreciated. Thanks in advance... - Chip ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) answers, etc. Date: 13 Aug 1999 09:25:43 EDT Yeah, I was wondering where to get some tshirts and stuff too.....Derek, where'd u get the info for the catalog? Could u share? Anyone else know any secrets>??? ~Vedaben~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) the surprise visit... Date: 13 Aug 1999 08:56:00 -0400 He pops in about once a month or so. Depends on the topic at hand. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 11:59 AM okay-- so i've been a member of this mailing list for about a month now... give or take... and since i've been here moby has posted once... which was a huge surprise to me, as i wasn't expecting it at all... my question is, does he drop in often, or was that a rare event that i was oh-so-lucky enough to witness? --J #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) All that I need Europe pressing Date: 13 Aug 1999 14:45:53 -0400 Does anyone have the European version of All that I need on 12", supposedly it is a die cut sleeve and I wondered what it looks like(the only really good die cut sleeves I am thinking of where done by New Order with the original Blue Monday). Also did anyone ever notice this slight pattern in the Voodoo Child releases with D and H Demons/Horses D/H Higher/Desperate H/D Dog Heaven D/H Always thought that was strange. Later Keith NP System 7 - Alpha Waves (Plastikman's Acid House mix) 17 minutes of one of the best remixes done ever. fucking brillant with 303's going all over the place. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) stuff Date: 13 Aug 1999 11:55:56 -0700 (PDT) BODYROCK is apparently being added to VH1ne!?!?!?! heh maybe theyll do a Behind The Muzik speciul!\\ also: Bodyrock #19? dance chart #21? sales #27? modrock Album:#185? #12 heatseeksrs (but w/a bullet!) it fell out of top 10en of CMJ 200 hear this! --- Astralwerks wrote: > THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS > http://www.astralwerks.com/chemical/ > Thanks to Astralwerks Message Board regular Kon66, a > simple post about > being bored has turned into a culture jamming > campaign... > > August 17: Chemical Takeover Day > http://www.astralwerks.com/specials.html > On Tuesday August 17, ee're looking for the Chemical > faithful to call or > write MTV's Total Request Live and ask for the > Chemical Brothers vid, "Let > Forever Be." You can vote online starting Tuesday > morning at Total Request > website. Choose the "Play My Song" links and scroll > down to the "Other" > button. Select "Other" and fill in Chemical Brothers > for artist and "Let > Forever Be" for video. Also call the TRL request > line, 1-800-DIAL-MTV, > between 3 and 3:30pm at 1-800-DIAL-MTV. Pass this > along to everyone you > know, post to newsgroups you think would be > relevant, call your frinds and > family. Let's make Tuesday Chemicals day on TRL!!! > Before you go flaming us > with "sell out" and "keeping it real and > underground" think about this: > Electronic dance music fans are supposed to be the > techno elite. If you are > provided with the tools to take control of > something, even for one day, why > wouldn't you in the name of fun and culture jamming? > > MTV AMP Red Rocks Special > http://www.astralwerks.com/highfidelity/redrocks.html > The Astralwerks/MTV.com webcast of the Chemical > Brothers and Fatboy Slim > live at Red Rocks continues throughout August. Catch > 20 minutes of real > video from each set, read exclusive interviews and > enter to win Astralwerks > swag. The August 15th broadcast of MTV's AMP will be > a special devoted > entirely to the Chemical Brothers and Fatboy Slim > Red Rocks show. This > unprecedented show will feature live sets from both > acts filmed at Red Rock > in Colorado. Check your local listings for times. > this 1ne rules!!! > AMUSING LINK OF THE WEEK > http://www.undergroundlondon.com/bunny/ > What if ravers started producing children's books? > om > > > === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Moby & Porno Date: 13 Aug 1999 12:08:28 PDT Heffo I just read that article linked to by Moby.org in which Moby said he was interested in opening a porno shop with a friend. Because he thought it was an ancient art or something. Is this true? Is he just joking? Did he ever actually do the shop thing? Forgive me if I sound judgemental, but how does this jive with his Christian beliefs..... The Bible obviously comes out against lust. I'm just wondering. And if Moby himself reads this--Hi, M-m-moby (stuttering in AWE). http://www.mp3.com/CorrugatedFunk "I've never heard any music like this in my life, and if I have, I don't know where I've heard it." -The Orb ambient, techno, dub, classical, minimalist, satire, world Defending the Universe from the Threat of the Dream Eaters _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) keez/soapbar??? Date: 13 Aug 1999 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT) hey dudes, this is a lil late but whats the big fus about kees getting mad over stuff? dont tell me you never go pyscho over sumthin! i should know, ive started a few doozies here myself!!! right anyway kees, did you say you were sending me sumthing in the mail? thank you for doing so! but i havent got it yet.... right, um im looking thru this big book of discographies, under Moby it lists a limited edition 10en" vinyl single for Feeling So Real mixes, released March 95 on Soapbar, in the UK, catalog #SBR15 does any1ne know about this? just kurius..... whot? um bye np in my head (havent said that in a while!):Ryu "I Believe" === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) soapbar??? Date: 13 Aug 1999 12:55:05 PDT >right, um im looking thru this big book of >discographies, under Moby it lists a limited edition >10en" vinyl single for Feeling So Real mixes, released >March 95 on Soapbar, in the UK, catalog #SBR15 >does any1ne know about this? just kurius..... I remember Carmen Barone mentioning in the early days of this list how he got a FSR orange 10" as a gift, completing his collection. (at the time) I think I read this in the archives, and it was before I joined in March 98. I never saw anything more about this until you mentioned it, and would love to get my hands on some more information. Soapbar #SBR15, you say? Let me see what I can find... -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby interview online Date: 13 Aug 1999 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 Hytinic@aol.com wrote: > There's a Moby interview online at a Dallas radio website: > www.kdge.com is it just me or does moby seem kind of annoyed by this interviewer at times? some of that guys questions just seem point blank rude or dumb. *shrug* maybe it's just me. :) sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby interview online Date: 13 Aug 1999 18:44:54 EDT About the interview.... I think Moby had somewhat of an attitude, too....maybe cause the interviewer's questions were kinda retarded. Who knows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Is this still healthy? Date: 13 Aug 1999 17:43:24 -0500 >01 Moby promo frisbee >01 Exclusive Moby song on a compilation CD >02 Moby 7" singles >03 Moby T-Shirts (of which 1 is a promotional shirt for PLAY) >16 Moby CD albums >27 Moby 12" singles >32 Remixes Moby did for other artists >53 Moby CD singles & EPs Bart, this is definitely NOT healthy. Please, send these items to me (e-mail for shipping address) and I will dispose of these items properly. Please let me help you. :) -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Porno Date: 13 Aug 1999 16:07:31 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, jj fish wrote: > I just read that article linked to by Moby.org in which Moby said he was > interested in opening a porno shop with a friend. Because he thought it was > an ancient art or something. > Is this true? Is he just joking? Did he ever actually do the shop thing? and what's wrong with some good porno now and then? :) society is just waaaay too uptight about sex and nudity. people have sex every single day and every single damn minute....and yes, some of it is actually captured in photographs or on videos. what's the big deal?? > Forgive me if I sound judgemental, but how does this jive with his Christian > beliefs..... The Bible obviously comes out against lust. *haha*....moby is most definitely not your average christian, blue collar bible thumping middle american. :) if you've read any articles at all about his....ummm...shall we say, sexual escapades...you know he has no qualms about "lust" or "lusting". :) it's human nature, baby. sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Johnston Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby interview online Date: 13 Aug 1999 19:25:42 -0400 "The Edge" radio station is known for its idiots. it's extra special annoying because (as with most similar stations) they act like they're THE MOST alternative, cutting edge station ever, but they're as mainstream Top 40 as anybody, but play a few hours of new music (and some 80s retro) a week. while that is a few hours more than most others, ultimately it's all the same crap. you'd be annoyed too if these people asked you many questions. shit i'm annoyed now, and i havent lived in dallas in 2 years bj Bjorkdoll wrote: > On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 Hytinic@aol.com wrote: > > There's a Moby interview online at a Dallas radio website: > > www.kdge.com > > is it just me or does moby seem kind of annoyed by this interviewer at > times? some of that guys questions just seem point blank rude or dumb. > *shrug* maybe it's just me. :) > > sarah > "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." > http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: > ::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: > ::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: > :::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Porno Date: 13 Aug 1999 17:13:30 PDT Thanks, what articles would those be? Christian means follower of Christ, so presumably he would follow ALL the teachings of Christ... >From: Bjorkdoll >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: ".~'*.into the blue.*'~." >Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Porno >Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:07:31 -0700 (PDT) > >On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, jj fish wrote: > > I just read that article linked to by Moby.org in which Moby said he was > > interested in opening a porno shop with a friend. Because he thought it >was > > an ancient art or something. > > Is this true? Is he just joking? Did he ever actually do the shop thing? > >and what's wrong with some good porno now and then? :) society is just >waaaay too uptight about sex and nudity. people have sex every single day >and every single damn minute....and yes, some of it is actually captured >in photographs or on videos. what's the big deal?? > > > Forgive me if I sound judgemental, but how does this jive with his >Christian > > beliefs..... The Bible obviously comes out against lust. > >*haha*....moby is most definitely not your average christian, blue collar >bible thumping middle american. :) if you've read any articles at all >about his....ummm...shall we say, sexual escapades...you know he has no >qualms about "lust" or "lusting". :) it's human nature, baby. > >sarah >"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." >http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html > >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: >::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: >::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: >:::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby &amp; Porno Date: 13 Aug 1999 20:26:50 PDT I just reread my last email and I guess it came out a little harsh, but really, I've read a few articles on Moby (not the right ones, :) and haven't heard of that---could you refer me to them? Thanx. >From: "jj fish" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Porno >Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:13:30 PDT > >Thanks, what articles would those be? > >Christian means follower of Christ, so presumably he would follow ALL the >teachings of Christ... > > > > >>From: Bjorkdoll >>Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >>To: ".~'*.into the blue.*'~." >>Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Porno >>Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:07:31 -0700 (PDT) >> >>On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, jj fish wrote: >> > I just read that article linked to by Moby.org in which Moby said he >>was >> > interested in opening a porno shop with a friend. Because he thought it >>was >> > an ancient art or something. >> > Is this true? Is he just joking? Did he ever actually do the shop >>thing? >> >>and what's wrong with some good porno now and then? :) society is just >>waaaay too uptight about sex and nudity. people have sex every single day >>and every single damn minute....and yes, some of it is actually captured >>in photographs or on videos. what's the big deal?? >> >> > Forgive me if I sound judgemental, but how does this jive with his >>Christian >> > beliefs..... The Bible obviously comes out against lust. >> >>*haha*....moby is most definitely not your average christian, blue collar >>bible thumping middle american. :) if you've read any articles at all >>about his....ummm...shall we say, sexual escapades...you know he has no >>qualms about "lust" or "lusting". :) it's human nature, baby. >> >>sarah >>"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." >>http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html >> >>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::rescue me:::::::::: >>::::::::::::::::from levelheadedness:::::::::: >>::::::::::and the unnecessary luxury:::::::::: >>:::::::::::::::::::::::of being calm:::::::::: >> >> > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nimu-e Subject: (mobility) Moby at Coachella Festival Date: 14 Aug 1999 00:37:18 -0400 Sorry if this has been mentioned already, i've been a bad girl and have neglected to read a lot of posts lately...but i just read (on the IDM list of all places) that Moby was added to the bill of that huge Coachella Valley Music Festival in Southern California recently...the line-up is REALLY impressive actually, with a ton of establiched and up-and-coming electronic musicians [and other guys too :) ] I wish i could go. It would be awesome. If anyone's interested here's the url for more info on the festival... http://208.242.114.231/coachella/ -n ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) bugjuice Date: 14 Aug 1999 12:16:12 -0500 Hi guys Bugjuice has an interview with moby...... they say it was before his "play" record release so i'm guessing it was the in store show he did way back. If this has already been posted... sorry :) ---rob <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Great Moby Pix Date: 16 Aug 1999 12:12:56 +0300 >From: "Your Friend Dave" >To: >Subject: Great Moby Pix >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:15:19 -0700 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > > There are some great Moby Pix from his recent appearance at Endfest in >Seattle at this url: >http://seattlesquare.com/pandemonium/Gallery/MobyPic1.htm link to them >and pass the word along to anyone who might be interested. dl >---------------------------------------------------------- >http://seattlesquare.com/pandemonium >---------------------------------------------------------- >http://seattlesquare.com/pandemonium > check out these.... -Samu Heinonen- -samuhei@dlc.fi- http://www.saunalahti.fi/~samuhei/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: (mobility) Introduction Date: 16 Aug 1999 11:21:14 +0100 Hi folks, I've been on this list 20 minutes, and already have 15-odd messages. Cool. So to be sociable, I thought I'd say hello. I'm Ian Greening, 25, marine engineer by day and bedroom techno producer type by night. I'm currently in the West Country, UK, but likely to be moving to Portsmouth soon. Post-modern Christian, which got me interested in Moby in the first place, then decided he made bloody good tunes. Have seen him live a couple of times, at the Greenbelt festival, and have most of his albums, but no singles or minutiae. Anyway, enough self promotion. A question. I was planning on heading up to the Scala in London for his gig on the 25th Oct. Not having heard of this place before, does anyone know what it's like, or directions there? Much Love, Ian ian.greening@tms-ltd.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) blur/moby Date: 16 Aug 1999 06:48:23 -0700 (PDT) hey guise remember reading on the NME website about a Blur singles boxset. that would probly inlude the minimal house mix of "Beetlebum" right? just in case yall didnt know... uv corse i wont be able to find it in the US and if i could it would cost a billion $$$$$$$$$ o well!!!!!!! bye!!!!!!!!!! >>>>>>PAUL<<<< "Makes all your dreams come true" ;) === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) bugjuice Date: 16 Aug 1999 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) -If you go to http://www.hob.com/live/concerts/990611moby/ There you will be able to hear a really great show. Love ya Bri === _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) 120 alert Date: 16 Aug 1999 11:19:25 -0700 (PDT) on 120 last nite: "Hi my name is Moby and yr watchin 120 min." BODYROCK vid (my name is Phizzo Jobson!) Dido saying PLAY is her favorite album rite now (they put the album cover up for 5ive min. while playing her song in the bacground? so it is no coincidence! she is a Moby fan! see, in the song "Here With Me" theres a piano break that sounds a LOT like sumthin from Little Idiot. hah!) why is BODYROCK not in rotation yet????/ remember tomorrow hammer TRL with reqwests for CHEMS LET FOREVER BEEEEE!!!!! byw === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Schrans Subject: (mobility) introduction Date: 16 Aug 1999 23:37:00 +0100 Hi, I just subscribed to the list and the first message I got asked me for a little introduction, so here it comes . My name's David schrans, most call me Dave, but my internet nickname's Spacevis (which means as much as Spacefish) . I'm 17 years old and I live in Belgium . I don't have too much Moby cd's in my collection because I just discovered him, and believe me, I like his music a lot !! I first heard of him by buying his latest cd, Play . I'm a dJ and I buy practically every new cd . Something told me Moby was good . I had the song Honey on a compilation cd, so I thought, why not buy the album . Boy, it was good . After that I bought 'I like to score' which is a very good one too . My favourite Moby song is Go . Some other artists I like are : Fatboy Slim, Les Rythmes Digitales, Jamiroquai, Lo' Fidelity Allstars, Jungle Brothers, ... Well, that's about it . I'm quite new too Moby's world . I'll start with buying all his records . Greetz David "Death is God's way of telling you not to be such a wiseguy" Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 16 Aug 1999 18:09:09 EDT I hate doing these things...they all suck but I might as well just cause a lot of people have done them... Name: Sarah...but I'll stick to Swells since a lot of people call me that Age: 17 (almost legal) Moby Collection: Lots of goodies. Just recently got the Play album signed by Moby on the 7th. Got a pic with him too that I'm waiting for it to be developed. Have a bunch of comp albums from him, couple singles...oh, and the best shirt in the world. Where I first heard Moby: Probably...uhhhhhh...could have been from Hackers (the movie) or Urbal Beats...I don't really remember. It was a long time ago, I know that. Other bands I like: I'm a die-hard Prodigy fan (well, use to be at least...that's kind of faded down now), ummmmmm...Blink 182, Orgy, Scooter, Crystal Method, and a bunch of others...I like collecting rare things that no one else knows about...I tend to get things before they're mainstream...and then they are mainstream and I feel like a complete loser... Weird Info: Well, I'm sitting here at work (in a mall) and a guy just belched REALLY loud and one of my employees hasn't showed up yet. And you're probably like, what? She's 17 and saying one of HER employees? Yes...I am the manager...WOO HOO!!! Go me!! Parents business...I get perks. :) So, anyway...now that you know hardly anything about me, I was at that Endfest show that that guy put the Moby pic link thingie on. That show kicked sooooo much ass. In my opinion, the best show that was there of over 15 bands. (All mainstream bands so it wasn't exactly the best.) But anyway...I tried to get pictures of that show, but mine turned out like crap. Kinda makes me mad they weren't better. But anyway, he did a dj set that wasn't all that great but when he did his regular stuff, damn it was good. Never seen anything like it. (Almost as good as the Prodigy concert.) I wish I could write a better review other than "It kicked so much ass" but I can't. Maybe cause he does most of the same things at every show and everyone knows about it...but still...it's cool...I'll just be a moron like we all can be. THE SHOW KICKED SO MUCH ASS!!!! Sorry...I had to do that... Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 16 Aug 1999 18:32:57 EDT swells... thats a cool name... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 16 Aug 1999 18:46:31 -0600 Name: Rob Age: 20 Moby Collection: Whoa, you guys are gonna be impressed. One single, and one track on a tribute compilation. Where I first heard Moby: Hm, I heard him casually, I don't know, around three or four years ago I think, I don't really recall. I didn't get a real sense of who "Moby" was till probably a couple months ago, when my friend got this huge crush on him. More will be uncovered later... Other bands I like: Um lets see. Its a pretty broad mix I guess, but I like the Clash and Pantera. I like the new Mike Ness cd too. Im listening to Fugazi now, and that usually means I like the Cd, and yah, now that i think of it, i like it quite a bit. So why exactly am I on this list? I don't have many Moby cds nor do I seem to listen to much Moby-esque music. Well I have my reasons, but now i want to hear yours! Yes, thats right folks, top ten reasons to be on the Moby mailing list/listen to Moby. I figure I've been getting a couple to more than a couple of emails a day from you guys, so now I want to hear why I should still get these emails (and Kees, i liked yours the best.) Well now that you all know I'm a big loser and all, who has way too much fun composing a simple email, I'll just wait for no one to respond to my mail. Oh and make sure you somehow work porn into any answers, those are my favourite. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 16 Aug 1999 22:22:26 EDT heer are my top ten reasons: 10.mobys music is awesome 9.hes catholic 8.i respect his opinions and he respects ours 7.animal rights is the best CD ever produced by electrica 6.animal rights is the best CD ever produced by moby 5.animal rights is the best CD ever produced by anyone in da world 4.hes a vegin 3.hes very opinionated and i like people who have their own oppinions and aren't followers. 2.his music is the bestest 1.moby is a god(in a way) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 16 Aug 1999 21:23:19 -0400 Pokey8984@aol.com wrote: > > heer are my top ten reasons: > 10.mobys music is awesome > 9.hes catholic > MOBY'S CATHOLIC??? I seriously doubt that. He seems to contradict Catholicism, and I should know cuz I am Catholic(well, baptized anyway, I'm an atheist by belief) dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) bodyrock Date: 16 Aug 1999 23:19:44 EDT at work today i was walking through the bar and i heard bodyrock. i was ' like what the fuck? ' then i looked at the tv and saw that girl from daharma and greg dancing to it. to make a long story short bodyrock is being used in tv comericals now. odd. -jason n . p . coil . north www.mp3.com/wilt "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Michie Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 17 Aug 1999 11:23:03 >MOBY'S CATHOLIC??? I seriously doubt that. He seems to contradict >Catholicism, and I should know cuz I am Catholic(well, baptized anyway, >I'm an atheist by belief) > >dave > > I really wonder if people know what atheism is or are they just confusing it with being agnostic. D1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Subject: (mobility) no more porn please and Catholic stuff Date: 16 Aug 1999 21:48:59 -0600 yah, well i got a response, but as for people trying to send me the pam and tommy vids to my mailbox, no i didn't mean that when i mentioned porn. nor was i siding with any of Kees views in any way, i just like his spirit. anyways, just to throw my hat into this MOby: Is he Catholic or is he not? debate, if dude says he's catholic, give him a break. I'm Roman Catholic born and raised, and I'm one damn bad catholic (see what i mean - for those non catholics, Damn would be considered a well you should get the idea by now). But my point is that I don't know many people that truly believe every word of Catholic teachings, and often openly disagree with the Church on many stances. For instance, if we threw out all the Catholics that either used or agreed in birth control, we wouldn't have many of them left. Just because Moby's beliefs are a little more sensational than the use or non-use of the pill, does not make him any less of a catholic than your sister who doesn't want to get pregnant. So if he wants to call himself a catholic, I think those who know anything about what the teachings of Christ really were and how he would be accepted into the kingdom of god etc. etc. would allow him to call himself one honestly, even if a bunch of bible thumping moby list subscribers don't understand why he would do so. so please stop the hate mail to my mailbox, and i hope my opinion on this brilliant theological debate has been better received. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Introduction Date: 17 Aug 1999 00:37:09 EDT Hello everyone...I was a little reluctant to actually do this, but here=20 goes... Name: Gabriele Age: 22 I first learned of Moby from some music discussion group on TV several years=20 back. All these other journalists and critics kept yelling and then every so=20 often Moby would talk quite calmly. Everything he said was so=20 straight-forward and interesting and it was refreshing...so since then=20 everytime I read or heard the name Moby my ears would perk up. Then I began=20 buying compilations and soundtracks with some of his work on there. So last=20 year I finally began to buy his CDs. I only have a couple but I love them=20 dearly (I am a poor and starving student haha). But somehow I managed to=20 scrape up a 'few' $$ (without having to sell body organs or anything!) so I=20 can see Moby and all the other fine artists at Coachella 99 which I am=20 looking forward to with excessive anticipation. I also enjoy Bj=F6rk, Tori Amos, Chemical Bros., Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkin= s,=20 Blur, lotsa 80's good stuff, all kinds of music except much country, even=20 Brazilian carnival music has been making me happy recently, Chopin & Debussy= ,=20 classic rock-punk-funk, my friends' demos, I could go on... So hello to you all, especially the newbies who got me the courage to say hi=20 (Ian, Rob, Swells, Dave...) My 2 cents about the Catholic debate: I think we might be falling into the=20 same hole the interviewer from the Dallas radio station fell into which is=20 trying to label a person and put them in a category. If he has listened to=20 Moby he would've heard him say that he is always changing like anyone=20 else...for all we know he could've been a fringe Catholic last month and not=20 this month... Keep sending the good info and links! Love & salsa :) Gabriele ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: (mobility) DENVER Date: 16 Aug 1999 22:16:45 -0600 is anyone going to the Denver show? i was gonna go with a friend, but it looks like he can't go so i may have to go myself. if anyone else is going, maybe we could meet up at the show, so i don't feel like such a loner. Chris Perkins cdperk@trib.com ICQ #: 32689797 -People in small towns don't know what books are and they don't know what phones are. If you ask them about phonebooks, their heads will explode.- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Williams, Chris" Subject: (mobility) Moby In Atlanta Date: 17 Aug 1999 01:17:14 -0500 Just announced today, 99x in Atlanta, GA is putting on it's yearly "Big Day Out" concert. It's a full-day concert, 21 bands on 3 stages, including Bush, Cake, Lucious Jackson, Tonic, Verve Pipe, Marvelous 3, Live, Jump Little Children, Econoline Crush, 2 Skinee Jay's, Train, Joydrop, and of course.... Moby. He isn't on the main stage, but on the 2nd stage (better than the locals stage). It's Saturday, August 21. BDO has previously had cool bands like Foo Fighters, Offspring, Beck, Poe, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Goldfinger, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, etc. Not a bad show... worth the $35 even without Moby as a headliner. Lots of promos on the station plugging all the bands showing up, Moby's getting lots of menion in Atlanta... I notice I'll hear BodyRock at least 4-5 times a week, and I don't listen to the radio that much. Check out their site... http://www.99x.com -Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) no more porn please and Catholic stuff Date: 17 Aug 1999 03:00:56 EDT i believe moby calls himself a Christian--a follower of Christ. he may seem liberal and un-christian in his beliefs and words, but as far as im concerned, he is one of the few real christians out there. its all so much more pure than what is more popular--accusings, judgings, forcing beliefs, attacking, indirectly killing and maiming, etc moby is just so cool just like sinead :) (why is it a lot of bald people are so cool?) ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: (mobility) catholic stuff Date: 17 Aug 1999 08:30:53 +0100 Hi folks, Maybe we've missed the point somewhat on the catholic thread. The dictionary in the office describes catholic (small c) as being part of the overall body of christians. Maybe that's a better description of M than as part of any one church grouping. Also, in an interview with Future Music, Moby mentioned a forthcoming DJ remix album of Play. As the Everything is Wrong DJ mix CD2 is usually within range of the stereo, has anyone heard any rumours on release dates, etc? Much Love, Ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) catholic stuff Date: 17 Aug 1999 13:03:03 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Hello Ian, Welcome to the list. I remember you said you were from my part of the world, but can't quite remember where. Please remind me, as I've deleted all messages. I was just about to say catholic also meant 'universal', but whoever said it, could clarify what was meant, and maybe everyone will be happy? Going to see Moby at The Scala, then? I'm of to his gig in September - the one postponed from May. The Scala is really easy to get to from King's Cross Station. Just exit, turn left and keep walking. Within a few minutes The Scala should appear on your right. Take care. TMB On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:30:53 +0100 Greening Ian wrote: > Hi folks, > > Maybe we've missed the point somewhat on the catholic thread. The dictionary > in the office describes catholic (small c) as being part of the overall body > of christians. Maybe that's a better description of M than as part of any > one church grouping. > > Also, in an interview with Future Music, Moby mentioned a forthcoming DJ > remix album of Play. As the Everything is Wrong DJ mix CD2 is usually within > range of the stereo, has anyone heard any rumours on release dates, etc? > > Much Love, > > Ian > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: (mobility) who Date: 17 Aug 1999 07:44:36 -0600 > Members of list 'mobility': > 192 subscribers > > Members of list 'mobility-digest': > 107 subscribers Hello guys & gals, Just wanted to say welcome to all of the new list members and say thank you for your introductions... i personally enjoying reading them very much! Some might think this number is "small" but Mobility is just one member shy of having 300 subscribers. The largest its ever been since being established in Oct of 1996. Tonight I get to see MOBY in concert in my home town! This has been a long time coming!!! I've been telling all of my friends about it and telling everyone to go. I hope he enjoys it here. Well, that's all. I'll be reporting back soon. Damian. owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) top 20/announcements Date: 17 Aug 1999 07:24:52 -0700 (PDT) ok heres my midmonth top 20enty (im gonna do this every month!!!!) 1-MOBY:Play (what a surprise!) 2-Radical Of Genius:A Surgeon A Sargeant And A Baker (my new tape) 3-MOBY:live July 25 Toads Place (WE ROCK THA PARTY ROCK THA BODY COME ON GET DOWN WE GON MAKE YOU FREAK AHA!!!!)/interview with Davo & Annette Szczeciul broadcast on WPKN 4-TMBG:Lincoln (gonna see the cow beneath the sea) 5-APHEX TWIN:Classics (are you one of those girls for whom time stands still once a month? ;) 6-Chemical Bros:Surrender (REMEMBER TODAY WE ALL HAMMER TRL WITH REQWESTS FOR LET FOREVER BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) 7-Zappa:Lost Episodes 8-Coldcut:More Beats & Pieces 9-me:Purple Monkey Dishwasher 10-Shizuo Vs Shizor 11-MONTY PYTHON:Final Rip Off 12-" ":And Now For Somthing Completely Different 14-FZ:Lather 15-RYU:Opposites Are One (got the new Ryu! awesome!!!) 16-S&O:all the old shit i got on tape 17-MST3K:last episode (WHY GOD WHY!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?) 18-TMBG:s/t (do you sing like Olive Oyl on purpose? you guys must be into the Eurhythmics!) 19-(Greek mu symbol)-ziq:Royal Astronomy 20-Ryoji Ikeda:20' To 2000 (deep ambient shit) also, I'm going away the next wek or so cuz my grampa just died (snifl snifl) so we gotta go to a funeral.... alright bye!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) musings Date: 17 Aug 1999 10:56:45 PDT Welcome to all the new members! It's great to see the that the list is healthy and growing. I haven't had time to search out that Feeling So Real orange 10" on Soapbar yet, but I haven't forgotten it. I've noticed that a few Voodoo Child 12"s have been on auction recently, including right now. This is a great record and I highly recommend it. It also has that exlusive 'No Buttons To Push' ditty, a neat little Moby / Jimi Hendrix novelty. It took me months to find it, but now they seem to common. Moby in Chicago on August 25th... write me if you're going. I plan to be there but I'm not 100% yet. Hmmm... well, I guess that's all. Pleasant days & nights to all! -Steve np: Creedence - Down On The Corner _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story Date: 17 Aug 1999 20:17:26 +0200 >at work today i was walking through the bar and i heard bodyrock. i was ' >like what the fuck? ' then i looked at the tv and saw that girl from daharma >and greg dancing to it. to make a long story short bodyrock is being used in >tv comericals now. odd. Since nobody except for some fans bought his single in Europe and since nobody gives Bodyrock any airplay here, the guy has to make some money! I don't understand... Run On and Bodyrock didn't do anything in Europe. I hope WDMHFSB will cause his next European break-through after the one from '95. Most of the people I meet say they have never even heard OF him! These are all persons of 18 and 19 years old... sure they must know Go or Feeling so Real, Move or EYTM, you might say.. NOPE What I've feared has happened dear Mobility members... The youth of the Netherlands has turned into TMF (= Dutch MTV) zombies. There's no place anymore for artists who care about MUSIC instead of making a hit record and making lots of $$. Britney Spears, BSB, Puff Daddy and all his R&B friends have taken over the scene, leaving only a minority who cares for stuff like expressing feelings/thoughts/views/beliefs rather than making a catchy melodie that will sell. Sure there's nothing wrong with earning a living by making music, but don't let the money become an obsession. Don't let the money become the reason why you make music. Go for quality rather than quantity. I know we had this sell-out discussion earlier, so I will no longer bother you. "music, when combined with a pleasureable idea, is poetry.... music, without the idea, is simply music..." Bart np: Albion - Phönix [whooo Acieeeeeeeeeed!!!] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lainey3333@aol.com Subject: (mobility) bald, cool people Date: 17 Aug 1999 14:18:41 EDT Maybe hair filters out unique ideas....... AHHH IT'S A GOVERNMENT PLOT C'mon everyone let's shave our heads in protest ~lainey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) bald, cool people Date: 17 Aug 1999 14:23:29 EDT dude!! ill shave my head and dye the stubble red!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Moby says hi (and how to meet him) Date: 17 Aug 1999 12:28:16 -0600 Hi, all. Moby emailed me from a hotel this weekend. He says 'hi' to everyone on mobility. :) Here's what else he said: a friend told me that they knew someone who had trouble getting to meet me at a show. i love meeting people, so my advice to anyone who wants to meet me is to come early, like around 6 p.m when we're doing soundcheck. i might be busy, but i could always take a couple of minutes to meet someone. trying to get backstage after a show is tricky, what with overzealous security guards. waiting at the bus after a show can be a good way to meet up as well. please feel free to post this if you want to. I'll try to follow his advice and meet him in Denver this Wednesday. BTW, that show is free. You just need to get a "Team Adventure" card by registering on KTCL's website (http://www.ktcl.com/). Daniel np: Magic Carpet, "Fore [Taste]" moby.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) zdmobytv Date: 17 Aug 1999 15:03:55 EDT moby is going to be on ZDTVs internet tonight umm tonight. i know it airs at 10pm eastern. i dont know about other time zones. -jason n . p . coil . north www.mp3.com/wilt "contentment is the absence of feeling"-jeanette winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zbentz@d.umn.edu Subject: (mobility) moby at first ave monday the 23rd Date: 17 Aug 1999 14:09:13 -0600 yo moby heads! i'm going to be doing an in-depth interview with moby at first ave this comming monday before the show in minneapolis. what i need from all of you are a few questions you would like me to ask him. i did this the last time he was here and i know a lot of you were happy that he answered your questions. so please send them to me! i will of course be posting the entire interview to the list as soon as possible. thanks for your help! [xaq] ___________________________________ This default signature can be changed by choosing "Preferences" from the File menu and clicking on the Signature button. Mulberry 1.3 users should click on the "Outgoing" tab and then on the Signature button. Mulberry 1.3 users should also put their full name in the "Real Name" setting on the first Preferences panel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alita18@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 17 Aug 1999 15:21:54 EDT Name: Jessica, people call me "clue" Age: 18 Moby Collection: Everything is wrong, Honey, and a Compilation Where I first heard Moby: I first heard him like 2 years ago but the people i hung out with never really listened to him, but then i went to see him at woodstock so i got this huge RUSH from hearing his music and seeing him preform Other bands I like: I like everything, but a few of my favorite music people are: R22, NOFX, Frankie Bones, Rabbit in the Moon, Eryka Badu, Sublime...the list could go on forever So why exactly am I on this list? I have a Huge thing for moby......anyway I gotta go to werk now..Ok i'm just letting you know that i'm not boring..i'm just really tired now and i thought that i should fill this thingy out so people can get to know me...bye bye kats ==================>>>>>>>>CLUE<<<<<<<<<====================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: (mobility) MOBY AT THE HATCHSHELL RUMORS Date: 17 Aug 1999 15:21:59 EDT i heard rumors that moby was going to b playing at the hatchshell in boston on the 26th. im not sure if they are true but if anybody knows or if moby himself is reading this, please tell whats going on straight up. thanks alot guys. -=*Jeff*=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) catholics? Here? Date: 17 Aug 1999 11:26:45 +0200 Canadian Rob wrote: > so now I want to hear why I > should still get these emails (and Kees, i liked yours the best.) too much honour man, you must be gay or somthing? now i dont think Moby was ever a catholic, but -culturally- we're all christians, i still have to meet the first Muslim on this list, ----------and: 10 reasons to stay on this list is a bit overdone, but as for me, i'm waiting for FRIENDS, cause there's already so much hate, porno, and violence out there, in the World. Rob, welcome, to the MOST peace-fool experience in your Internet-life. keep posting! kees -- --------------- "I'll be riding on the bus, 'till I Cadillac." ---------------z-z-top----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 17 Aug 1999 11:08:25 +0200 Pokey8984@aol.com wrote: > > heer are my top ten reasons: > 10.mobys music is awesome > 9.hes catholic > 8.i respect his opinions and he respects ours > 7.animal rights is the best CD ever produced by electrica > 6.animal rights is the best CD ever produced by moby > 5.animal rights is the best CD ever produced by anyone in da world > 4.hes a vegin > 3.hes very opinionated and i like people who have their own oppinions and > aren't followers. > 2.his music is the bestest > 1.moby is a god(in a way) SORRY, but these are 10 reasons to like moby, non to be on this list. -- --------------- "I'll be riding on the buss, 'till I Cadillac." ---------------z-z-top----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Davies, Andrew" Subject: (mobility) Moby in Minneapolis Date: 17 Aug 1999 16:08:07 -0500 Is there anyone here that is going to see Moby at the First Avenue show in Minneapolis this coming Monday? I wanna hook up with some Mobility members! Mail me and let me know! andy gingerbread man "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wigan Ludgate Subject: (mobility) Moby Tour dates/Vegan Recipes Date: 17 Aug 1999 15:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Hello. Just stoppin in to say hey, pass a word and ask a question. In DJ Times last month they had an interview with Moby which i am transcribing but seems pretty much the same interview he has given to everyone else since play came out. Also, i caught an article at the record store i work at in which Moby is cooking at home. It includes recipes from the world's "most famous vegan" as the article refers to him. I'll check what magazine it was for anyone interested. Finally, a question Particulary for Mr. Daniel Cerman. Ummm, Dan. I noticed that the confirmed tour schedule has been updated. And that the Sept. 8 date in North Carolina is not there. I suppose i should assume the worst, but i would like you to let me know if this show is indeed not going to happen. Thanks Dan:). Bye all. [chris] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason miklian" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Tour dates/Vegan Recipes Date: 17 Aug 1999 15:25:07 PDT FYI-it's the Sept. Issue with Armand Van Helden on the cover...Moby's description of his never fail orgasmic chocolate chip pancakes is great... >From: Wigan Ludgate >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) Moby Tour dates/Vegan Recipes >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:14:15 -0700 (PDT) > > >Hello. >Just stoppin in to say hey, pass a word and ask a >question. In DJ Times last month they had an interview >with Moby which i am transcribing but seems pretty >much the same interview he has given to everyone else >since play came out. Also, i caught an article at the >record store i work at in which Moby is cooking at >home. It includes recipes from the world's "most >famous vegan" as the article refers to him. I'll check >what magazine it was for anyone interested. > >Finally, a question >Particulary for Mr. Daniel Cerman. >Ummm, Dan. I noticed that the confirmed tour schedule >has been updated. And that the Sept. 8 date in North >Carolina is not there. I suppose i should assume the >worst, but i would like you to let me know if this >show is indeed not going to happen. Thanks Dan:). > >Bye all. > >[chris] >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) The long (long!!!) and short of it... Date: 17 Aug 1999 15:31:53 -0700 > > >Just wanted to say welcome to all of the new list members... Hi, I'm new (sort of) to the list. I was on the list a year ago while living with my ex but things go rough and the emails to much for my seldom checked account but I have regular access again and am glad to be back. Man, I love MOBY. > > >Tonight I get to see MOBY in concert in my home town! This has been a > >long time coming!!! I've been telling all of my friends about it and > >telling everyone to go. I hope he enjoys it here. > > Seeing MOBY was a great fu-king experience for me when I saw him almost > two years ago w/ my ex. But it was darn near overwhelming when I saw him > this past weekend with my new bf. OHMIGOD! Here's my story and it may > or may not interest you in the slightest..... At the last minute my bf and I decided we could break away from our out of control lives (*heh*) to travel the two hours for MOBY. I was way, way phyched! My best friend's boyfriend bought me tix for my bday and we picked them up shortly before we thought the show would start. We got to the NILE THEATRE in MESA at 7pm because we thought there would be 4 dj's, and opening band and then MOBY. We found out that the show would not start until 9pm! We were the first in line though and that was perk numero ono. Slowly, a line started to form behind my bf and I, and infact it was a pretty big line if I do say so. Every one was very impatient. I was surprised at how non-raver like the crowd was. They were mostly comprised of skater kids and mismatched "alternative" looking ppl in their late teens to early twenties. There were also a much larger number of thirty somethingers in suites w/ gf's in trendy dresses looking as if they were out at the opera. This was *way* different from the crowd two years ago. Doors opened and the bouncer took the first four ppl. We went into the smallish empty club. I walked very fast and confidently to the front and center of the stage w/ absolutly no intention of giving up my spot. :-) I did leave for a moment to buy a shirt. I can say that shirts did NOT appear to sell well. I only saw myself wearing a concert bought shirt and I don't recall seeing a MOBY shirt in the crowd. It was unsettling. Amille (dj) started up and dj'd on for quite some time to very cold responces from the crowd. I knew then that they were expecting rock bands and not techno. Little less than a hand ful of ppl danced. I was one of them. The crowd was unforgiving to the dj but he managed to rock out any way and a few ppl followed in on the dancing. After a long time of dj'd music, a band came on. I think the name was Boom Boom Jungle. They were so cute. If the name is correct, I recommend you see them if you get the chance! They were fab! Then, the moment of truth. MOBY. He took the stage and his feet were right in front of my face. He (at one point) knelt down to say "hi" to the fans and a gaggle of girls yelled and reached out to touch him. I stood there calmly, not wanting to ruin the moment by pushing to touch him. I just admired him. After he stood I realized how moved I was by being there and I acctually began to cry. *sigh* MOBY looked down at me a few times and kind of smiled at me. I made a lot of really good eye contact with SCOTT, his drumer. I thought I was being silly to think that he was really looking at me. He was sticking his tongue out and making faces as I tried to not cry and smile back. At one point, MOBY knelt down directly in front of me and all seemed to be still (but I was probably dreaming) and he smiled at me. I was like OHMIGOD and I smiled back and we just smiled for a sec. *sigh* The set ended and they went off stage. As they picked up their waters and left the stage, SCOTT grabbed two waters and came directly up to me and handed me one which ofcourse got taken by an overzealous fan. He then handed me another one and again, the attempt was made but he held it and waited for me to get a grip on it. I was so stunned. I guess he accutally was looking at me and making faces at me. I was so taken by the moment. A little girl stole the water from me then and chugged half of it. I turned slowly to look at her and instead of being mad, I smiled at her. The girl that had taken the other water offered it back to me but I said it was ok. The told the little girl she could drink the water but that I would like to keep the bottle. She gave it back to me half full and I told her it was ok to drink it, even though I was dying of thirst. I patted her on the head and he just looked at me. :-) My bf then noticed I had the water and went to grab it but decided not to but I gave it to him to drink. Here was 1/3 left which I took a tiny swallow of and then put in my new MOBY shirt. The band came back out for intros and MOBY was again standing close to me. I tapped him on the leg and he looked down at me. I handed him a Scooby Doo beany baby thing and motioned for him to give it to SCOTT who smiled and put it on his drum kit. *sigh* They again left the stage for good. My bf and I walked out and I said that I wanted to stay for a few minutes and see if I could spy MOBY. He said I'd have to go it alone and he went to the car. I figured that I was kidding myself and there was no way I'd ever see him but that I would go to the bus any way and look to satisfy myself. But to my surprise,there was SCOTT and MOBY standing there chatting. I jogged up to SCOTT and told him "thank you" for the water. (Scott is far shorter than me and he came up to like my breasts which I now find kinda funny :-) I gave him a hug and a girl dragged him away, I think it was his gf. Then there was MOBY signing a drum stick for a kid and having light conversation. I stood there for a moment saying "oh my god, oh my god, oh my god..." to myself and then MOBY and the kid looked at me. I wasn't really nervous I just didn't know what to say. I hadn't really planned anything since I didn't think I would ever talk to him. The kid left and it was me and MOBY. He was about to put his Shapie away when I kind of motioned to him with my flyer and said "Uh, can I have your autograph, I know it's kinda silly but well, uh...." and he took the flyer and began drawing the little picture of himself often seen on shirts and cds. I was babbling about how I had been so moved during the show and how I had been listeing to him for a few years now and had a few cds (somewhere in the realm of 10 but I'm not sure). As I was talking, a guy in a suit and his preppy well dressed gf came up and he said that she was too shy to talk but that he wanted to say hi. She extended her hand as her bf introduced her. MOBY extended his hand for a moment and said "hello". She said "I just bought 'Play' and I think it's excellent. I was really surpised to hear that you made something something something Spin...something....#1 of the decade something something...." I didn't really listen because I was already kind of embarassed to be standing next to her. MOBY said he was happy about the Spin thing and then I didn't listen past that. He kept drawing and then he drew a heart and his name, while doing this he said "love MOBY" and I smiled and felt all warm and fuzzy. The girl then left. At some point I asked to give MOBY a hug and I was just gushing. We hugged and he kissed me on the cheek!!! :-) We talked some more and he said thank you to me and I gushed more about how much I enjoyed the show and how I was moved by the preformance. I had a bunch of hair clips on so I took a stray one off and handed it to him. It was a blue fairy. He tried to clip it to his scalp but owed and then tried to clip his ear and owed again. So I have him a Tucan Sam key chain and told him he could keep if forever and ever and blah blah blah. (It's all kind of a blur really.) Things were drawing to an end and I said I should go before my bf killed me for keeping him waiting. I reached out to touch his hand and then I had the weird impulse to rub his cute little bald head. I thought better of it. He reached out to shake my hand but somehow it ended up being another hug. He said something to me while the hug was taking place and I just remember saying "Thank you! Thank you for being so kind...thank you for putting on the show and putting out music..." and he kissed me on the cheek again. I stepped away and smiled and walked backwards saying "Thank you, drive safely, God bless!" and he said goodbye and maybe something else. Okay, that's the story. MOBY was great and very kind. It didn't feel like I was talking to a guy who has a video on MTV or someone intimidating. He was really cool. *sigh* I hope to talk to him again some day. Maybe when I'm famous! :-P --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Unknown Anonymous Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #81 Date: 17 Aug 1999 19:14:44 -0400 Hey, is anyone going to the show in Columbus Ohio at the Newport Music Hall on Sept. 5? Just wondering, let me know. Andrew ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #81 Date: 17 Aug 1999 20:10:23 EDT oh yeah more depressing bodyrock spotting. i'm working at the gap and we play it here. argh, i really just don't like bodyrock at all. i really wish they would play runon. :-) riz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Johnston Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby says hi (and how to meet him) Date: 17 Aug 1999 20:20:54 -0400 hey folks, it's brian down in tampa. our paper is running this story later this week. thot you might wanna see it first, cheers By DAVID BAUDER of the Associated Press NEW YORK - The composer Moby was mildly surprised when, after dinner one night, a friend offered to lend him a copy of Alan Lomax's box set, ''Sounds of the South.'' Even though Moby parlayed his success in the techno-dance- music field into an unusually eclectic career, he had never shown any interest in early 20th century field recordings of African-Americans. Now he's grateful he took the discs home. The music he heard provided the spark for ''Play,'' a creative high point and critical triumph. It was the only album released this year to crack the Top 20 of Spin magazine's list of the 90 best discs of the 1990s. Moby used a handful of vocals from the box set to build his own songs, using elements of hip-hop, blues, dance, even classical. For the most part, his piano and percussion provide the instrumental foundation. ''From a purely technical standpoint, the fact that a lot of the vocals were recorded a cappella made it very easy for me to sample them and write songs around them,'' he explained. ''The emotional quality of the vocals, the way they were recorded, the cultural and spiritual traditions that they represent, the lyrical quality - I loved everything about them.'' He worked alone in a small studio built next to his living room in a Manhattan co-op. The soundproof room is stuffed with electronic equipment, keyboards, guitars and a mattress. The soft-spoken, 34-year-old Moby grew up in a Connecticut suburb as Richard Hall grew up in a Connecticut suburb. His parents gave him the nickname as an infant, telling him he was distantly related to ''Moby Dick'' author Herman Melville, and it stuck. The dance-floor hit, ''Go,'' was his breakthrough five years ago. Many thought Moby would become the face to popularize a faceless techno movement, but his work derailed the idea. The 1997 album, ''Animal Rights,'' was a harsh affair, a punk rock screed that pushed his vegan views. ''Play'' is, by design, more apt to capture casual listeners. But it's not an album the dance music world can unite behind; Moby describes it as a disc better suited to late Sunday afternoons than Saturday nights. ''I don't intentionally try to confound people,'' he said. ''I never try to be idiosyncratic or weird or difficult. I think the reason I've ended up confounding some people is that they might have only known me for one thing, making dance music. From my perspective, dance music is just one small aspect of contemporary music that I'm interested in.'' He knew from age 8 that he wanted to be a musician because of the way music hit him emotionally. As a teen-ager, he was a punk rocker in the un-punk rock town of Darien, Conn. Moby's record company contracts guarantee him creative control, so now he's able to pursue his diverse interests. ''I'm more than happy to incorporate the opinions and advice of people I respect about what I do,'' he said. ''But I don't want to be legally compelled to do that. I want to defer to my own idea of what my records should be like, even if in the process I make something that's not commercial.'' His music-making is done methodically, alone, in a work space down the hall from his living room. Moby hired musicians this summer to accompany him on a tour that included one of Woodstock '99's all-night raves. The song ''Honey'' is the best example of how he uses the source material from Lomax's box set. He samples a four-line vocal from Bessie Jones that ends with this order to her honey: ''Better hop in the back, come on over here.'' From there, he builds a catchy, insistent melody around the oft-repeated vocal. Were she able to hear it today, Jones would probably shake her head, then tap her toes. He considers vocals just another element of the music, so his songs frequently land in the middle ground between instrumentals and music with verses and choruses. During songs where he uses his own deadpan vocals, ''Play'' sounds similar to David Byrne and Brian Eno's ambient experiments of two decades ago. It's an indication of how the music world has opened up in the intervening years that ''Play'' is considered commercial. Making a warmer, more inviting record was one of Moby's goals after the admittedly self-indulgent ''Animal Rights.'' ''I wouldn't put on 'Play' if I was having a party,'' he said. ''It's kind of a solipsistic record. I imagine people listening to it while going for a long drive late at night.'' Rather than in the songs, Moby uses the CD booklet to disseminate political views. A series of short essays are printed in the booklet, in which Moby explains why he's a vegetarian, says he's ''horrified'' at how prisoners are treated in U.S. society and condemns religious people who preach violence against abortion clinics. The essays aren't related to the music, he writes, so it's possible to love the music and hate the essays, or vice versa. ''Who knows,'' he writes, ''maybe by some bizarre twist of fate you'll like them both.'' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story Date: 17 Aug 1999 16:57:00 -0400 "My loneliness is KILLING me ..." Anyway, IMHO the selection of singles THUS FAR stinks to high heaven (heaven= punn included at no cost). Honey, Run_On, and BodyRock (maybe BodyRock exclude= d) just don't have enough PIZZAZ to be singles. They're all very repetative which= gets on the nerves of the masses (present Moby maniacs not included). Let's be= honest here. If you're trying to attract a larger fan-base (ie: sell more records/singles) you should pick songs that really KICK or are awesome to= hear. I am really looking forward to WDMHFSB for this very reason. I feel = that this is a GREAT song and deserves to be a single. I can't wait for the re= mixes. IMPRESS me! I dare you! I can almost HEAR the great remixes in my mind. T= he piano chords in the song ACHE for a great remix. Show me what you got! How about a PORCELAIN single? HEck, HALF the album can be singles. I= just feel that whomever is choosing this stuff (didn't sound like MOBY picked = them all from what I read of his interviews)just is not THINKING properly. HOW many times do I need to hear the line: "Every Honey Comes back ... sometimes" (is that even the freakin words?) Don't get me wrong. I love Moby and all (well most) of his stuff. I = just wish there would be more singles and remixes like: "Hymn", "ETYTM", "Feel= ing So Real", "Go", "Next is the E", "INTO THE BLUE!!" Heck, WHY isn't there an "ANTHEM" single/remixes?????!Q?Q!?!?!? Tha= t song ROCKS!! I am now stepping down from my soapbox. - Jayson G. Magnus now playing in my head: "Borderline" by Madonna (hee-hee) -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 8:17 PM >at work today i was walking through the bar and i heard bodyrock. i was = ' >like what the fuck? ' then i looked at the tv and saw that girl from daharma >and greg dancing to it. to make a long story short bodyrock is being use= d in >tv comericals now. odd. Since nobody except for some fans bought his single in Europe and since nobody gives Bodyrock any airplay here, the guy has to make some money! I don't understand... Run On and Bodyrock didn't do anything in Europe. I hope WDMHFSB will cause his next European break-through after the one from '95. Most of the people I meet say they have never even heard OF hi= m! These are all persons of 18 and 19 years old... sure they must know Go or= Feeling so Real, Move or EYTM, you might say.. NOPE What I've feared has happened dear Mobility members... The youth of the Netherlands has turned into TMF (=3D Dutch MTV) zombies.= There's no place anymore for artists who care about MUSIC instead of making a hit record and making lots of $$. Britney Spears, BSB, Puff Dad= dy and all his R&B friends have taken over the scene, leaving only a minorit= y who cares for stuff like expressing feelings/thoughts/views/beliefs rathe= r than making a catchy melodie that will sell. Sure there's nothing wrong with earning a living by making music, but don= 't let the money become an obsession. Don't let the money become the reason why you make music. Go for quality rather than quantity. I know we had this sell-out discussion earlier, so I will no longer bothe= r you. "music, when combined with a pleasureable idea, is poetry.... music, without the idea, is simply music..." Bart np: Albion - Ph=F6nix [whooo Acieeeeeeeeeed!!!] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kyle L Yeates Subject: (mobility) denver show+stuff Date: 17 Aug 1999 18:29:27 -0600 hey there people. chris, i plan on going to the denver show this friday. it should be awesome. ("awesome"? i'm not very articulate today.) not to mention it is a free show. i can't stand KTCL and their team adventure shit, but if it lets me see moby without cost, then i guess i shouldn't whine too much. yeah, so chris, e-mail me privately if you want to arrange a meeting, and anyone else who plans on going to the show. is my hometown hero, the big dan cerman planning on going? that would be neat. laters. ~kyle ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) The long (long!!!) and short of it... Date: 17 Aug 1999 17:55:51 -0700 wow! i had no idea that the person who gave a gift to the drummer was someone from mobility!!!! i was at that show, too!!! it's a shame that the concert didn't officially start until around 11:30. my friends and i got there around 9:30 at first & the line was way too long, so we walked back to our hotel, which was right down the street. we then got back around 10:45 and the line was gone. so we quickly dashed inside. so, where did u meet moby afterwards?? we hung out inside for a bit because i really wanted to meet him (it was my first concert...), but he never showed up. did u see him outside? we waited about half an hr and then left... we looked back @ the buses but didn't see anyone. ohh.. and the opening band was boom boom satellites. they weren't that bad. they all seemed pissed about something.... i know the venue was hot... i wonder if that was the reason why. and the crowd was kinda freaky. i was wondering who there actually had listened to moby before play. probably not many. anyways, glad to read that someone else went to the nile show. what was your overall impression of the concert??? even though it was my first time seeing him perform, i got the impression that he wasn't really into it as much as i've read from other people. paul (HI PAUL!) mentioned that as well, since he has seen moby lots of times & had seen him in san francisco just before then. i just hope that i do get to see him again & hopefully meet him next time. if i ever get my scanner to work right, i will post the two pictures of the concert on my webpage that turned out pretty cool. they were taken during his last song, thousand.. right when he was standing on his keyboard. paul, being a lot taller than me, took them & didn't do a bad job. plov -----Original Message----- >> >> >Just wanted to say welcome to all of the new list members... > >Hi, I'm new (sort of) to the list. I was on the list a year ago while >living with my ex but >things go rough and the emails to much for my seldom checked account but I >have regular access >again and am glad to be back. Man, I love MOBY. > >> >> >Tonight I get to see MOBY in concert in my home town! This has been a >> >long time coming!!! I've been telling all of my friends about it and >> >telling everyone to go. I hope he enjoys it here. >> >> Seeing MOBY was a great fu-king experience for me when I saw him almost >> two years ago w/ my ex. But it was darn near overwhelming when I saw him >> this past weekend with my new bf. OHMIGOD! Here's my story and it may >> or may not interest you in the slightest..... > >At the last minute my bf and I decided we could break away from our out of >control lives (*heh*) to travel the two hours for MOBY. I was way, way >phyched! My best friend's boyfriend bought me tix for my bday and we >picked them up shortly before we thought the show would start. We got to >the NILE THEATRE in MESA at 7pm because we thought there would be 4 dj's, >and opening band and then MOBY. We found out that the show would not start >until 9pm! We were the first in line though and that was perk numero ono. >Slowly, a line started to form behind my bf and I, and infact it was a >pretty big line if I do say so. Every one was very impatient. I was >surprised at how non-raver like the crowd was. They were mostly comprised >of skater kids and mismatched "alternative" looking ppl in their late teens >to early twenties. There were also a much larger number of thirty >somethingers in suites w/ gf's in trendy dresses looking as if they were >out at the opera. This was *way* different from the crowd two years ago. > >Doors opened and the bouncer took the first four ppl. We went into the >smallish empty club. I walked very fast and confidently to the front and >center of the stage w/ absolutly no intention of giving up my spot. :-) I >did leave for a moment to buy a shirt. I can say that shirts did NOT >appear to sell well. I only saw myself wearing a concert bought shirt and >I don't recall seeing a MOBY shirt in the crowd. It was unsettling. >Amille (dj) started up and dj'd on for quite some time to very cold >responces from the crowd. I knew then that they were expecting rock bands >and not techno. Little less than a hand ful of ppl danced. I was one of >them. The crowd was unforgiving to the dj but he managed to rock out any >way and a few ppl followed in on the dancing. > >After a long time of dj'd music, a band came on. I think the name was Boom >Boom Jungle. They were so cute. If the name is correct, I recommend you >see them if you get the chance! They were fab! > >Then, the moment of truth. MOBY. He took the stage and his feet were >right in front of my face. He (at one point) knelt down to say "hi" to the >fans and a gaggle of girls yelled and reached out to touch him. I stood >there calmly, not wanting to ruin the moment by pushing to touch him. I >just admired him. After he stood I realized how moved I was by being there >and I acctually began to cry. *sigh* MOBY looked down at me a few times >and kind of smiled at me. I made a lot of really good eye contact with >SCOTT, his drumer. I thought I was being silly to think that he was really >looking at me. He was sticking his tongue out and making faces as I tried >to not cry and smile back. At one point, MOBY knelt down directly in front >of me and all seemed to be still (but I was probably dreaming) and he >smiled at me. I was like OHMIGOD and I smiled back and we just smiled for >a sec. *sigh* > >The set ended and they went off stage. As they picked up their waters and >left the stage, SCOTT grabbed two waters and came directly up to me and >handed me one which ofcourse got taken by an overzealous fan. He then >handed me another one and again, the attempt was made but he held it and >waited for me to get a grip on it. I was so stunned. I guess he accutally >was looking at me and making faces at me. I was so taken by the moment. A >little girl stole the water from me then and chugged half of it. I turned >slowly to look at her and instead of being mad, I smiled at her. The girl >that had taken the other water offered it back to me but I said it was ok. >The told the little girl she could drink the water but that I would like to >keep the bottle. She gave it back to me half full and I told her it was ok >to drink it, even though I was dying of thirst. I patted her on the head >and he just looked at me. :-) My bf then noticed I had the water and went >to grab it but decided not to but I gave it to him to drink. Here was 1/3 >left which I took a tiny swallow of and then put in my new MOBY shirt. > >The band came back out for intros and MOBY was again standing close to me. >I tapped him on the leg and he looked down at me. I handed him a Scooby >Doo beany baby thing and motioned for him to give it to SCOTT who smiled >and put it on his drum kit. *sigh* > >They again left the stage for good. My bf and I walked out and I said that >I wanted to stay for a few minutes and see if I could spy MOBY. He said >I'd have to go it alone and he went to the car. I figured that I was >kidding myself and there was no way I'd ever see him but that I would go to >the bus any way and look to satisfy myself. But to my surprise,there was >SCOTT and MOBY standing there chatting. I jogged up to SCOTT and told him >"thank you" for the water. (Scott is far shorter than me and he came up to >like my breasts which I now find kinda funny :-) I gave him a hug and a >girl dragged him away, I think it was his gf. Then there was MOBY signing >a drum stick for a kid and having light conversation. I stood there for a >moment saying "oh my god, oh my god, oh my god..." to myself and then MOBY >and the kid looked at me. I wasn't really nervous I just didn't know what >to say. I hadn't really planned anything since I didn't think I would ever >talk to him. The kid left and it was me and MOBY. > >He was about to put his Shapie away when I kind of motioned to him with my >flyer and said "Uh, can I have your autograph, I know it's kinda silly but >well, uh...." and he took the flyer and began drawing the little picture of >himself often seen on shirts and cds. I was babbling about how I had been >so moved during the show and how I had been listeing to him for a few years >now and had a few cds (somewhere in the realm of 10 but I'm not sure). As >I was talking, a guy in a suit and his preppy well dressed gf came up and >he said that she was too shy to talk but that he wanted to say hi. She >extended her hand as her bf introduced her. MOBY extended his hand for a >moment and said "hello". She said "I just bought 'Play' and I think it's >excellent. I was really surpised to hear that you made something something >something Spin...something....#1 of the decade something something...." I >didn't really listen because I was already kind of embarassed to be >standing next to her. MOBY said he was happy about the Spin thing and then >I didn't listen past that. He kept drawing and then he drew a heart and >his name, while doing this he said "love MOBY" and I smiled and felt all >warm and fuzzy. The girl then left. > >At some point I asked to give MOBY a hug and I was just gushing. We hugged >and he kissed me on the cheek!!! :-) We talked some more and he said >thank you to me and I gushed more about how much I enjoyed the show and how >I was moved by the preformance. I had a bunch of hair clips on so I took a >stray one off and handed it to him. It was a blue fairy. He tried to clip >it to his scalp but owed and then tried to clip his ear and owed again. So >I have him a Tucan Sam key chain and told him he could keep if forever and >ever and blah blah blah. (It's all kind of a blur really.) > >Things were drawing to an end and I said I should go before my bf killed me >for keeping him waiting. I reached out to touch his hand and then I had >the weird impulse to rub his cute little bald head. I thought better of >it. He reached out to shake my hand but somehow it ended up being another >hug. He said something to me while the hug was taking place and I just >remember saying "Thank you! Thank you for being so kind...thank you for >putting on the show and putting out music..." and he kissed me on the cheek >again. I stepped away and smiled and walked backwards saying "Thank you, >drive safely, God bless!" and he said goodbye and maybe something else. > >Okay, that's the story. MOBY was great and very kind. It didn't feel like >I was talking to a guy who has a video on MTV or someone intimidating. He >was really cool. *sigh* I hope to talk to him again some day. Maybe when >I'm famous! :-P > >--kimby > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "086" <086@oasisweb.com> Subject: (mobility) denver show Date: 17 Aug 1999 20:12:07 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEE8EC.C8B84D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "chris, i plan on going to the denver show this friday. ~Kyle L Yeates [eulogic@juno.com]" Hey Kyle you might be kinda of mad if you go friday because moby is playing in Austin, TX Friday... He is playing in denver wednesday Moby with Vidamin D & Miss Audry August 18 - Ogden Theatre Doors open @ 8pm, show starts @ 9pm Moby will also spin at Twist & Shout Wednesday afternoon @ 5pm. For Free!!! 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Subject: Re: (mobility) DENVER Date: 17 Aug 1999 19:14:23 PDT In regards to the Denver show... I do plan on going... and I'd like to meet some of yall...I imagine I will be getting there pretty early since it is free and well I just want to get a good "seat". I may try to go to the moby spinning at Twist and shout...btw...where is info available on this? Anyway...if any of you going to the Denver show want to meet drop me a line...or if you see a guy in a navy blue proback Denver Nuggets (basketball team) hat and is wearing glasses it is most likely me...so introduce yourself. On another moby tip...I purchased the new CMJ New Music Monthly mag...and moby is #1 on the Dance Chart and #2 on the radio play chart...not to shabby if I do say so myself. NP: The CMJ NMM CD (pretty darn good...lots of neat hip-hop and PE!) in rotation with DC Talk "Supernatural" Jake -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html -- "The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato >From: Chris >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) DENVER >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:16:45 -0600 > >is anyone going to the Denver show? i was gonna go with a friend, but it >looks like he can't go so i may have to go myself. if anyone else is >going, >maybe we could meet up at the show, so i don't feel like such a loner. > > >Chris Perkins cdperk@trib.com ICQ #: 32689797 > >-People in small towns don't know what books are and they don't know what >phones are. If you ask them about phonebooks, their heads will explode.- > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "086" <086@oasisweb.com> Subject: (mobility) Denver again... Date: 17 Aug 1999 21:35:59 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEE8F8.7F2335E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey for the denver show go to http://www.ktcl.com/ for info about MOBY at twist and shout and the concert Didn't see Moby on Internet Tonight on ZDTV oh Well... 086 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEE8F8.7F2335E0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IjsCAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAAM8HCAARABUAIwAAAAIAKQEB A5AGAFQFAAAlAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAB4AcAAB AAAAEAAAAERlbnZlciBhZ2Fpbi4uLgACAXEAAQAAABYAAAABvukiRe2+poqiVNwR05izAGCXjSHE AAACAR0MAQAAABYAAABTTVRQOjA4NkBPQVNJU1dFQi5DT00AAAALAAEOAAAAAEAABg4AonpEIum+ AQIBCg4BAAAAGAAAAAAAAADL/rRHAxzTEZiyCABGAjYIwoAAAAsAHw4BAAAAAgEJEAEAAAAPAQAA CwEAAFwBAABMWkZ1G2jOrAMACgByY3BnMTI1FjIA+Atgbg4QMDMzTwH3AqQD4wIAY2gKwHOwZXQw IAcTAoB9CoGSdgiQd2sLgGQ0DGAOYwBQCwMLtSBIZXmGIAIQBcB0aGUgAQCEbnYEkCBzaG8H4Hxn bxRAFWAKogqECoBoQQJAcDovL3cW4C4ga3RjbC4FoG0v7xWrFBILgAIQIAGgCGAFQLBNT0JZGQAF QHQD8fsFQABwZBTyGUEaUhRSBaA0bmMEkHQVuhW0RGk4ZG4nBUARIBRwTW/mYhPwAiAgSQIwBJER MGQgVAIgaWcWcB3yWghEVFYd8GggV2WObBdQIDAVujA4NhvvCgoR4QAisAALAAGACCAGAAAAAADA AAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAMAA4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCFAAAAAAAAAwAHgAgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAUoUAACdqAQAeAAmACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABUhQAAAQAA AAQAAAA5LjAAHgAKgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAANoUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4AC4AIIAYA AAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAAyACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4 hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAACwANgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAgoUAAAEAAAALADqACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAPIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwA9 gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAGIUAAAAAAAALAFKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAGhQAA AAAAAAMAU4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAGFAAAAAAAAAgH4DwEAAAAQAAAAy/60RwMc0xGY sggARgI2CAIB+g8BAAAAEAAAAMv+tEcDHNMRmLIIAEYCNggCAfsPAQAAAIIAAAAAAAAAOKG7EAXl EBqhuwgAKypWwgAAUFNUUFJYLkRMTAAAAAAAAAAATklUQfm/uAEAqgA32W4AAABDOlxXSU5ET1dT XExvY2FsIFNldHRpbmdzXEFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIERhdGFcTWljcm9zb2Z0XE91dGxvb2tcb3V0bG9v ay5wc3QAAAADAP4PBQAAAAMADTT9NwAAAgF/AAEAAAAwAAAAPE5EQkJKSUxDTURQT1BDRUZERkJF R0VBTENDQUEuMDg2QG9hc2lzd2ViLmNvbT4AAwAGECTtFdcDAAcQgQAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAA AAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABIRVlGT1JUSEVERU5WRVJTSE9XR09UT0hUVFA6Ly9XV1dLVENMQ09NL0ZP UklORk9BQk9VVE1PQllBVFRXSVNUQU5EU0hPVVRBTkRUSEVDT05DRVJURElETlRTRUVNT0JZT05J AAAAANf/ ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEE8F8.7F2335E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: (mobility) Maybe?! Date: 19 Aug 1999 13:28:32 +0000 Pokey8984@aol.com wrote: > > i heard rumors that moby was going to b playing at the hatchshell in boston > on the 26th. im not sure if they are true but if anybody knows or if moby > himself is reading this, please tell whats going on straight up. thanks alot > guys. Please! Someone tell me this is true! MY plans changed and I wil be in Boston from the 24th now so I can go and really want to see him! As far as I heard, it is some show on that Fat Boy Slim Radio Station and it is impossible to see him, but this news sounds much better. Anyway, I am back in America now - for good. I got hooked up again with CDs, but not as many Moby ones waiting for me this time. I guess I already have too many. Other awesome ones (mostly Promos - esepcially awesome BT and Orbital Promos and the 2nd never released Utah Saints CD!!!) Anyway, those of you that read my list last time (Bart) will notices some nice changes this time: Move Move - Promo Everytime You Touch Me Everytime You Touch Me - Promo Bring Back My Happiness Bring Back My Happiness - Promo Feeling So Real Feeling So Real - Remixes James Bond Theme James Bond Theme - Promo Into the Blue - 1 Into the Blue - 2 Lopez - Emptiness Lopez - Why Can't It Stop? Next Is The E U.H.F. Drop a Beat Honey Honey - Remixes Honey - Promo (2 mixes) Honey - Promo (6 mixes) Honey / Run On Run On Run On - Extended Bodyrock Bodyrock - Remixes Bodyrock - American Bodyrock - Promo Play Play - Promo --X2 Splash Club That's When I Reach for My Revolver --X2 That's When I Reach for My Revolver - Promo (4 track) That's When I Reach for My Revolver - Promo (1 track) I Like To Score I Like To Score - Promo --X2 I Feel It Everything is Wrong --X4 Everything is Wrong + Underwater Everything is Wrong - Remixed Moby Ambient Rare Animal Rights Animal Rights + Little Idiot --X3 Early Underground Mixmag - Sven Vath Mixmag - Slam The Story So Far Voodoo Child - End of Everything Voodoo Child - Dog Heaven Voodoo Child - Higher Come on Baby Come on Baby - 2CD set Hymn --X3 Hymn.Alt.Quiet.Version Go - (1991) Go - American Go - Ultimate What Love - Promo Well, not counting Double, Triples, Quadrouples, or 2CD sets, I have 60! Wow! Any of the CDs that had a --X# after them I have tht many of them and if anybody wants to trade for them (easy trade) please let me know! Finally got that elusive Underwater! But definaty the coolest CD in there is the Bodyrock promo - not casue it is the best or hardest to find, but because it looks the coolest! Someday I will get around to buying Disk, but other than that and Demons and Horses, I don't know what I am miissing except for different country releases and promos. Anyway, kind of nice to be back in America, even if it is Baltimore... Anyway, Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Gall Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 18 Aug 1999 00:10:08 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 4:08 AM > Pokey8984@aol.com wrote: > > > > heer are my top ten reasons: > > 10.mobys music is awesome ... > > 1.moby is a god(in a way) > > SORRY, > but these are 10 reasons to like moby, non to be on this list. ok, so here's a couple reasons why i like the list! 1. it's fun to hear from moby every once in a while 2. it's the best way to get the most up-to-date moby news 3. some really funny and entertaining posts from a lot of you guys 4. interesting discussions, from gwen stefani to overpopulation 5. great also for sifl n' olly news ;) 6. nice to hear about the opinions, lives, and record-hunting habits of those of you outside of the states 7. if i ever have a moby question, the list could probably answer it within the hour! 8. all this email makes me feel so darn special :) 9. great for reading personal reviews of moby songs/albums/shows/etc., since usually they're so hard to find 10. ....is a very nice number! -Anthony and ps - welcome to all the new list members! good to have you here :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david j bass Subject: Re: (mobility) introduction, Scooter Date: 18 Aug 1999 00:08:57 -0500 Scooter!! I remember him, is he still active? Does he have any new albums? Dave On 16 Aug 99 23:37:00 +0100 David Schrans writes: >Hi, I just subscribed to the list and the first message I got asked me >for a little introduction, so >here it comes . > >My name's David schrans, most call me Dave, but my internet nickname's >Spacevis (which >means as much as Spacefish) . I'm 17 years old and I live in Belgium . >I don't have too much >Moby cd's in my collection because I just discovered him, and believe >me, I like his music a >lot !! I first heard of him by buying his latest cd, Play . I'm a dJ >and I buy practically every >new cd . Something told me Moby was good . I had the song Honey on a >compilation cd, so >I thought, why not buy the album . Boy, it was good . After that I >bought 'I like to score' >which is a very good one too . My favourite Moby song is Go . >Some other artists I like are : Fatboy Slim, Les Rythmes Digitales, >Jamiroquai, Lo' Fidelity >Allstars, Jungle Brothers, ... >Well, that's about it . I'm quite new too Moby's world . I'll start >with buying all his records . > >Greetz > >David > > > "Death is God's way of telling you > not to be such a wiseguy" > >Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Catholic stuff, etc] Date: 18 Aug 1999 01:09:06 -0400 Message-ID: <37B9A6CC.25EE@chuma.cas.usf.edu> Reply-To: dchamber@chuma.cas.usf.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok before this drags on any longer cuz i've started a monster or irrereverance.... Someone mentioned Moby was Catholic, I merely asked where he heard this because I've never read that anywhere, and Moby is no doubt a christian, and considerably a good modern one, but I see no elements of Catholicism in him. Jesus may play a big role in Moby's life, but He's not much of a figure head in Catholicism. Mary ranks higher than Jesus in Catholicism. And I have this weird conceptual thinking, if I'm a buddhiat but I don't agree with Buddha's teachings, I'm not BUDDHIST. SO if a catholic-baptised person(like myself) doesn't believe in Catholic teachings and ideologies(which I don't), then I'm not Catholic. and by the way I am an ATHEIST not an agnostic, whoever mentioned that should assume that I know what my own beliefs are. So anyway I'm looking forward to seeing Moby Sept 16th at Jannus Landing in ST pete, FL, I've got MY ticket, do you? Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) nobody gives Bodyrock any airplay here, Date: 17 Aug 1999 20:48:51 +0200 wrote bart, the youth may have gone TMF, i was just positioning my radio in the new wire-system, had to reconnect the cable, so i 'biked' as we call it, the whole channel-searcher, and Wak! KINK-FM was playing Bodyrock, (aug. 17th 16.00 h. (for Paul)) not that i listen much to it, a coincidence? doubt it. k. -- --------------- "I'll be riding on the bus, 'till I Cadillac." ---------------z-z-top----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) bald, cool people Date: 17 Aug 1999 20:52:44 +0200 Lainey3333@aol.com wrote: > > Maybe hair filters out unique ideas....... > AHHH IT'S A GOVERNMENT PLOT > C'mon everyone let's shave our heads in protest > > ~lainey how about Mussolini, Idi Amin (if you guys remeber him) pol pot , bwahhh and Dr. No? Socrates had a lot of hair, Dali too, and dont forget Da Vinci! -- --------------- "I'll be riding on the bus, 'till I Cadillac." ---------------z-z-top----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at first ave monday the 23rd Date: 18 Aug 1999 05:16:25 +0200 zbentz@d.umn.edu wrote: > > yo moby heads! > > i'm going to be doing an in-depth interview with moby at first ave this > comming monday before the show in minneapolis. what i need from all of > you are a few questions you would like me to ask him. right; ask him when he 's gonna make an album like concept with the essays connected to the SONGS.. like total concept, like Atom Heart Mother or sumthing... no, like Berlin (Lou Reed) kees'99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) DENVER Date: 17 Aug 1999 23:32:18 -0600 hey all, just signed up to this list, glad i did. im in denver, and i plan on going to the free moby show, ill be the guy in the sky camo long sleeve tshirt and silvertabs with the nappy hair. as for moby spinning at twist and shout, its 3 blocks down the street for me, i plan to be there extra early, these things tend to get lines at them. while im thinking of it, did anyone here see moby at woodstock? truly a great show, too bad there was so few people there. its the main reason im going again. cant wait till friday. later -dale- We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) DENVER Date: 18 Aug 1999 03:15:12 -0700 I saw Moby at woodstock...he played a relatively short set compared to his own live shows. The sound also at woodstock was a bit fucked up, his drum machines went out a few times, but he seemed to handle it well. Of course all the sound at woodstock was very poorly done anyways, the hangar actually had the best setup. Anyways.. latEr Chris -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of dale Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 10:32 PM hey all, just signed up to this list, glad i did. im in denver, and i plan on going to the free moby show, ill be the guy in the sky camo long sleeve tshirt and silvertabs with the nappy hair. as for moby spinning at twist and shout, its 3 blocks down the street for me, i plan to be there extra early, these things tend to get lines at them. while im thinking of it, did anyone here see moby at woodstock? truly a great show, too bad there was so few people there. its the main reason im going again. cant wait till friday. later -dale- We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) A.J. ! back! Date: 18 Aug 1999 07:40:08 +0200 Mr. Bernstein wrote: > nd the 2nd never released Utah Saints CD!!!) Anyway, those of you WHAT??! WHAT!??? MORE MORE... yo want a tape or double or something or what? tell ME!!!! man man man i waited for that line a week or so! (45?) "yo want the BEST, now you got the BEST, U-U-U-TAH!!" Oooo.. yo want the PO-lice at yo door? Then buy the Utah SaintZZZ!TOP! kkkk, -- --------------- "I'll be riding on the bus, 'till I Cadillac." ---------------z-z-top----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Blackwell Subject: (mobility) Moby in DC! Date: 18 Aug 1999 04:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Hello, I was planning on seeing Moby on his upcoming tour and noticed this on the tour scedule on moby.org 10 Sep Washington, DC The Nation (Sting) Does ANYONE know where/what/who "The Nation" is, I assumed he would be playing at the 930 club or bohagher's or something, and does Sting in () mean he is opening for Sting(cuz that would suck)...if anyone has any further info PLEASE let me know! Thanks so much! -Dan _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Schnippel" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in DC! Date: 18 Aug 1999 08:09:25 -0400 Dan - Nation is DC's trendy-cool 'rave' club. Its a _huge_ warehouse style club on the southeast side. I got my tickets Friday.. Moby is headlining the event but its a rave club so its not like you will notice.. In other words, there are three rooms at Nation and Moby and everyone else on the bill (aphrodite, bad boy bill, etc) will be in the main room. They just play straight through, as seamless as possible to keep the dance vibe going. The DJs themselves remain in a short balcony overlooking the dancefloor so there's not a whole lot of chances for interaction. I've been there to 'see' famous DJs before and I only noticed that they had switched when I heard one of their 'signature tracks' and thought to look up to the balcony to see who was labouring over the turntables.. I also doubt given the nature of the club and the event, that moby will play much off his albums, but will probably stick to a straight dj set. Personally, I greatly prefer this type of format to the 9:30 club. More energy and room to dance.. Tickets are $18.00 - if you need directions or more information, I've been there dozens of times and I would be happy to help you out.. cheers -greg > -----Original Message----- > Hello, > I was planning on seeing Moby on his upcoming tour and noticed this on > the tour scedule on moby.org > > 10 Sep Washington, DC The Nation (Sting) > > Does ANYONE know where/what/who "The Nation" is, I assumed he would be > playing at the 930 club or bohagher's or something, and does Sting in > () mean he is opening for Sting(cuz that would suck)...if anyone has > any further info PLEASE let me know! > > Thanks so much! > -Dan > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lainey3333@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) bald, cool people Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:11:00 EDT exceptions prove the rule ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story Date: 18 Aug 1999 06:53:32 -0700 > RANT BELOW------- > >IMHO the selection of singles THUS FAR stinks to high heaven (heaven punn > >included at no cost). Honey, Run_On, and BodyRock (maybe BodyRock excluded) just > >don't have enough PIZZAZ to be singles. They're all very repetative which gets > >on the nerves of the masses (present Moby maniacs not included). Let's be honest > >here. If you're trying to attract a larger fan-base (ie: sell more > >records/singles) you should pick songs that really KICK or are awesome to hear. I think the songs have pizzazz but not the kind that regularly appeals to top 40 listeners. I mean, sort of unrelated, when ever I'm mentioned MOBY lately to friends, no one has a clue who he is. A teenage girl I spoke to the day I went to the show however did know but only because I said "you know, the body rock guy..." and he said "Ohmigod! That's so cool!" I was thoroughly annoyed. Most ppl either don't know how MOBY is or they only know "Body Rock". I was way annoyed when I girl I work with who I met up with at the show said "Is MOBY's other stuff good? I just own 'Play' and I think it's great...." I think 'Play' is great too but I also think EVERYTHING else is too. Of course I said "Hell yes his other stuff is good! Go buy it!!!!" I always recommend 'Ambient' just because. But I've gotten off track. See below rant..... > > I am really looking forward to WDMHFSB for this very reason. I feel that > >this is a GREAT song and deserves to be a single. I can't wait for the remixes. > >IMPRESS me! I dare you! I can almost HEAR the great remixes in my mind. The > >piano chords in the song ACHE for a great remix. Show me what you got! I think MOBY will show everyone what he's got. He's got a lot of good material in him (this is my prediction :-). I was leery about 'Play' before hearing snippets of it because frankly, I didn't like the rock stuff on 'Animal Rights' nearly as much as I did the dreamy techno. I loved that to death. I was afraid it would be something left field. Although I think 'Play' is different I think MOBY kept it real all in all (whatever that means :-) > > How about a PORCELAIN single? HEck, HALF the album can be singles. I just > >feel that whomever is choosing this stuff (didn't sound like MOBY picked them > >all from what I read of his interviews)just is not THINKING properly. They're thinking "moo la" probably. It sucks when ppl who want something other than promoting good music get to make the choices and I'm sure that is often the case with some really great material that bands/artists put out. But I think the motivation was probably related to the below rant. Repetition sells because I don't think most radio listeners want to have to think while they drive home from work and I also think that maybe the ppl in charge are thinking "Gee, all those rave kids, they buy music, in fact they buy a lot of it. That's a section of the music buying populace we've been neglecting....we want their money, let's release "such and such a song" to get their attention." I think it's sad. > >HOW many times do I need to hear the line: > >"Every Honey Comes back ... sometimes" > >(is that even the freakin words?) Uh, isn't a *lot* of techno that way? *See "rhythm is a dancer"* Crapier songs have made more money. Not to say that "honey" is crappy but it is to say that it is repetitive. I think the populous at large usually doesn't want to think very much while they listen to the radio and therefore, receptive is usually fine. Repetitive sells as we've seen from past artists. There are some songs that have more lyrics (just barely) and sell great. The new RHCPs song, uh, the new FastBalll song, uh, most songs come to think of it. A *lot* of artists (if you can call some of them that) have these altra repetitive songs in which they say like three words and then go on to the chorus and make slight changes to that as it goes. Personally, I like repetition only in techno songs because it as if the voices are instruments all their own and they're just part of the mix whereas "pop" usually relies on the vocals to carry the song and often times they vocals and lyrics do not, but some how they still sell. *sigh* --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne N Thalheimer Subject: (mobility) more Catholic/Christian discussion Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:53:59 -0400 (EDT) hi all. Not to whomp this subject (or turn into a religious lesson), but Dave wrote: SO if a catholic-baptised person(like myself) doesn't believe in Catholic teachings and ideologies(which I don't), then I'm not Catholic. As someone who got confirmed as a Catholic nearly ten years ago under extreme parental duress, and didn't fall in with the party line (I actually wore a black dress to the ceremony), I don't consider myself a Catholic in that I've seen the Church do some very bad things to a lot of people, and for the most part a good number of the parishoners didn't even seem to follow the Golden Rule. So I left. However, the Catholic Church still apparently considers me one of their ranks, since I just was in a Catholic wedding as the maid of honor (in part, because I was the only readily available Catholic-with-papers the bride knew, and yes, I had to dig up a ton of records to prove I'd actually been confirmed). I did it as a favor to the bride, not out of any desire to return to achurch structure I find totally repressive and placing more stock in things like people going to church every week rather than people trying to lead a good life. To make a long story short, I got booted out of the confessional and refused communion during the wedding mass in part because I wouldn't say I was sorry for the things I've done in my life which are against Catholic doctrine, which struck me as really strange. I don't personally feel that I have to be in a house of worship in order to give respect to God, the saints, Jesus, etc--and people in general!--and telling me I'm a bad person for not doing so kinda made me cranky. So I guess what I'm saying is one can self-identify all one likes, but many religions (not just the Catholics) do very much stick to the notion that you're always one of 'em (some more strictly than others). I've also always found it interesting that Moby (see, topic's not off-list!) talks about his spiritual/religious beliefs in such an accessible way. What I mean is that a lot of folks who talk about religion make it sound like an exclusive club that one had to beg and scrape to get into. & I've always enjoyed his liner notes on the subject. Ok. The end. Thanks for reading. anne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Good Moby Pix Newbie Info Date: 18 Aug 1999 07:12:01 -0700 > >1. it's fun to hear from moby every once in a while > >2. it's the best way to get the most up-to-date moby news That's why I'm here. I was so out of touch with MOBYness. I wanted to know when shows were, what was being released and so on. *sigh* > >3. some really funny and entertaining posts from a lot of you guys > >4. interesting discussions, from gwen stefani to overpopulation I think Gwen is directly conected to overpopulation. REALLY! > >5. great also for sifl n' olly news ;) who? > >6. nice to hear about the opinions, lives, and record-hunting habits of > >those of you outside of the states > >7. if i ever have a moby question, the list could probably answer it within > >the hour! > >8. all this email makes me feel so darn special :) > >9. great for reading personal reviews of moby songs/albums/shows/etc., since > >usually they're so hard to find > >10. ....is a very nice number! Agreed.... I also like the list because 1) There is that slim possibility of music trading with other fans and trading stories and info. 2) Talking to ppl who share an interest with me (which seems so hard to find) 3) Hearing other ppl's opinions on music and getting to vent mine. 4) Possibility for penpals! :-) --kimby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JSoquet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 moby videos Date: 18 Aug 1999 11:17:03 EDT Ok I did posted this before but really didn't get the right answer. Is there someone out there that has a VHS tape of moby videos? and what happen to Thanks 2 project I was really excited to hear that. but i know it's the summer. But that is dwindling away. Plus when Moby dj's he said that he doesn't like playing his own music. just wondering what's up with that project. Can't wait until that DJ remix of play. Any news if Moby did some Voodoo Child when he was recording Play I bet he did. Hmmm OUtt with the shout, get up and Dance -SUn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) ...Moby Videos... Date: 18 Aug 1999 08:32:57 PDT I recommend that you buy Rockvideo Monthly Winter '95 Techno Edition, which frequently sells on ebay cheaply. I got mine for $2.00 and shipping. It has full videos of Eerytime You Touch Me, Feeling So Real, and Hymn (This Is My Dream) It has all the interview footage that "Disk" does, plus more, and also has great videos from MKFDM, Towa Tei, Prodigy, & EBN. (the EBN one is my fave on the tape, actually) Skip "Disk", buy this video. If you're in the UK, Action Records has Moby promo videos for James Bond Theme, Honey, Come On Baby, and posibly more recent ones in PAL format. They had some Honey t-shirts, too. Look 'em up on yahoo, that's how I found their site. I've been playing my 1st 2 Moby CDs a lot lately, Into The Blue Remixes and self-titled. Thought I'd mention. -Steve >From: JSoquet@aol.com >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 moby videos >Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:17:03 EDT > >Ok I did posted this before but really didn't get the right answer. Is >there >someone out there that has a VHS tape of moby videos? and what happen to >Thanks 2 project I was really excited to hear that. but i know it's the >summer. But that is dwindling away. Plus when Moby dj's he said that he >doesn't like playing his own music. just wondering what's up with that >project. Can't wait until that DJ remix of play. Any news if Moby did some >Voodoo Child when he was recording Play I bet he did. Hmmm > >OUtt with the shout, get up and Dance > >-SUn > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) ...Moby Videos... Date: 18 Aug 1999 10:06:02 -0700 the address for action records is: http://www.action-records.co.uk/ i ordered the run on CDs from them a while back for a great price!!! i also got a moby t-shirt as well... way too big, tho. i spent about $20 for the 2 CDs and the shirt.. not a bad price at all!!! and they have a pretty good selection.. more rarities then any other site i've seen so far. plov -----Original Message----- > >I recommend that you buy Rockvideo Monthly Winter '95 Techno Edition, which >frequently sells on ebay cheaply. I got mine for $2.00 and shipping. It has >full videos of Eerytime You Touch Me, Feeling So Real, and Hymn (This Is My >Dream) It has all the interview footage that "Disk" does, plus more, and >also has great videos from MKFDM, Towa Tei, Prodigy, & EBN. (the EBN one is >my fave on the tape, actually) Skip "Disk", buy this video. > >If you're in the UK, Action Records has Moby promo videos for James Bond >Theme, Honey, Come On Baby, and posibly more recent ones in PAL format. They >had some Honey t-shirts, too. Look 'em up on yahoo, that's how I found their >site. > >I've been playing my 1st 2 Moby CDs a lot lately, Into The Blue Remixes and >self-titled. Thought I'd mention. > >-Steve > > >>From: JSoquet@aol.com >>Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >>To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >>Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 moby videos >>Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:17:03 EDT >> >>Ok I did posted this before but really didn't get the right answer. Is >>there >>someone out there that has a VHS tape of moby videos? and what happen to >>Thanks 2 project I was really excited to hear that. but i know it's the >>summer. But that is dwindling away. Plus when Moby dj's he said that he >>doesn't like playing his own music. just wondering what's up with that >>project. Can't wait until that DJ remix of play. Any news if Moby did some >>Voodoo Child when he was recording Play I bet he did. Hmmm >> >>OUtt with the shout, get up and Dance >> >>-SUn >> > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) bodyrock: a sad story Date: 18 Aug 1999 11:27:00 -0400 I won't forward everything that we both said but: I basically agree with you. - Jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 6:53 AM > RANT BELOW------- from Kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) nobody gives Bodyrock any airplay here, Date: 18 Aug 1999 21:34:39 +0200 Kees wrote: >... and Wak! KINK-FM was playing Bodyrock, YESSS, there is still hope! Bart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) sad in my little sunshine pocket Date: 18 Aug 1999 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT) dang. not only did i mess up the 3 chances i had to see moby this summer but i just found out today that the icelandic goddess - Bjork - was in seattle all last week filming scenes for her movie, 'dancer in the dark'. i am sooooo completely bummed out that i missed a chance to see her up close and personal....maybe even get a chance to talk to her. :( sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html __________________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e ______________________________________fuck logic fuck logic ________________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t ___________________________________and sweet intuition, honey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Sunday Date: 18 Aug 1999 17:42:36 EDT Okay, so this might be old...and I'm going to bring it up again if it has been discussed before... But does anyone else find "Sunday" to be a REALLY pretty and moving track? It's almost like the End of Everything album. Of course, it might as well be really bad and I don't know it since I'm in one of my depressed moods and I find weird stuff like this appealing sometimes. I just want to know if anyone else finds it really good. Also, why does so much of this mailing list have to be about religion? And what religion Moby believes in? Does it really matter? Can't we just all respect each others' beliefs and get on with our lives? I mean, I'm athiest, but I still listen to other religions and what they do. Even sit through church thingies when I go back East for my family over in PA. I respect what they think and don't put it down or try to determine the differences between each religion. They all believe in a god or gods...that's it...no questions need to be asked. Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJTripp2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday Date: 18 Aug 1999 18:31:59 EDT nothing beats "Spirit"...at least as far as really good b-sides. although "Arp" is great just for the added bonus at the end.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sunday Date: 18 Aug 1999 16:13:31 -0600 But does anyone else find "Sunday" to be a REALLY pretty and moving track? yea, actually, it is quite a beautiful song.. ive noticed that lately on a lot of cds ive bought, theres almost always a really moving song... underworld's Skym on beaucoup fish, the chemical brothers 'asleep from day' from surrender, remy zero with 'life in rain', and vast with 'you'. all really heart felt songs/lyric structures. etheral back grounds, beautiful song and lyric writing, and just the right amount of feeling. anyways, almost time to go watch moby spin at twist and shout, ill be heading out soon, hopefully get my record flats signed... later -dale- We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kyle L Yeates Subject: (mobility) i'm so angry i could eat meat Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:34:41 -0600 Mobility, wow, i am really mad right now. i just got back from what should have been a moby concert. instead i missed the chance i have been waiting years to get. i get to the venue in denver and start standing in this big-ass line for the show. it happens to be a free show and a dj called vitamin d is also playing. the thing is i was standing in line and i started talking to the guy in front of me. the first words out of his mouth was "so what is this moby dude like. i haven't even hear of him". i felt quite a pain at that moment. as the conversation went on, he said that the only reason that he and all the 30 some odd of his raver friends came for was to hear this vitamin d guy. and of course the staff for the club all come out and tell everyone that the show is full when i am finally about 15 feet from the door. murphy's law i guess. still, it really disturbed me knowing that such a large percentage of the crowd was only there for this local dj, and if it weren't for him i would probably be watching moby as i write. i don't know. it just makes me mad that i couldn't see the guy who was my main inspiration for becoming vegan and one of my favorite musicians play because of all of these mindless ravers going to do whatever their friends tell them to do, and have no interest in the music. a cool side note though: as i was walking back behind the venue and i saw moby's tour bus. it was really dark except for the tv set near the front which was playing what else? the simpsons! we waited outside of it for a while in hopes that moby would actually be in there watching tv and cone out or something. after 20 minutes of trying to think of ways to get him to come out if he was really there and not get killed by some security person, we gave up and went home. thus ends the biggest disappointment of my summer. oh well, hopefully that dj's turn tables start fire or something 8). ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "086" <086@oasisweb.com> Subject: (mobility) Austiin bound to see moby Date: 19 Aug 1999 02:04:51 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEE9E7.394E42E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leaving to see moby in austin and to party to.. Will see him friday, hopefully I can bring my digital camera inside. If I can I will posting some pics and some info about my time at the show.. I have been waiting for this forever, ever since I got my first moby cd "early underground" probably over 5 or 6 years ago. 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Cool...where are you coming from? I'll be at that show (of course)..look for the guy in the Tomorrowpeople shirt. Incidentally, if you haven't been there before, La Zona Rosa is a really nice venue. They have two stages...I assume he'll be playing the big room...but even so it is a very intimate little place and a lot of fun....But the parking is shit...get there early if you want to find a place to park. On the other hand, the security at LZR are really nice...at both the shows I've been to there before I got to meet the artist/hear soundcheck...so definitely worth showing up early and staying late! Hope you have a good trip... Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: (mobility) denver again Date: 18 Aug 1999 23:14:16 -0600 did anyone else that went to the moby show in denver tonight get told to go home? freaking fire codes. id say more than half of the poeple there got told to go home. i am rather pissed about that, BUT i did get all my record flats signed, shook mobys hand. the dj session was simply great. very intimate. i was standing right infront of him, watching him sync everytihng, take a break and sign stuff, go back to the turntables, it was amazing. as good as his live show, almost better in a way. i amm pisssed about missing the actual live act, but i did see it at woodstock, however chopped it may have been. which reminds me. i am going to be getting in contact with one of the DJs at KTCL (radio station who sponsored the concert and dj session) and getting a cd copy of what Moby spun at the record store. excellent mix, he told a rather funny joke too: There was a man walking down the street and he ran into a guy with a giant orange for a head. Being rather curious about it, the man asked how he got a giant orange for a head. 'Well,' said the orangeheaded man, "its a funny story. You see, i found a genie in a bottle. I had 3 wishes" "So how did you get the orange for a head?" "well, first i wished for a pot of never ending money to take care of all my needs for the rest of my life, and poof, there was a pot full of money, more than i can imagine" "Yea! then what happened?" "then i wished for the most beautiful and perfect wife i could ever want, and poof, i got my dream wife, perfect in every way." "What was your third wish?" "well, my third wish was to have a giant orange for a head" rather lame, i know. think about it. so stupid its funny. hell, moby told it. -dale- We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Denver show Date: 19 Aug 1999 03:57:16 -0600 I just got back from Denver, where Moby put on an excellent show that lasted almost 80 minutes. KTCL hosted the show at the Ogden Theatre, and it was free (though you had to sign up to be a "Team Adventure" member). I was really surprised by how many people showed up. The doors didn't open until 8:00 PM, yet there was a huge line going around the building when I arrived at around 6:30. There were no signs of activity from the tour bus parked out back when I got there. Moby DJed at the Twist & Shout record store at 5:00, but I missed it. Before Moby's performance, we had to endure a long DJ set by Vitamin D and Miss Audry, who served up largely uninspired minimal house tracks. Most people were standing or dancing on the ground floor, but I ended up on the 21-and-over level, with possibly the best view of the stage short of being right in front of it. Moby was supposed to start at 9:15, but ten minutes later someone said that he had just woken up. At about 9:30, Moby's show began, and it was awesome from the get-go. "My Weakness" started playing as darkness and thick stage fog were pierced by diffuse moving blue lights. Moby and his live band (Scott, Greta, and a blonde guy whose name I missed) appeared and the action got underway. There was a ton of variety in the speed and mood of the songs. Here's what was played: My Weakness Find My Baby Machete Porcelain James Bond Theme Go Next Is The E Everloving Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? If Things Were Perfect Ah Ah Bring Back My Happiness Natural Blues Bodyrock Honey Feeling So Real Thousand Moby was bursting with energy, sometimes playing various guitars, drums/percussion, and synths. The light effects were fantastic, and greatly enhanced the show. You really must see it to believe it. The sound quality left something to be desired, unfortunately. The synths were hard to hear over the drums and general distortion. According to some people I talked to, however, it sounded a lot better on the floor. Most songs were very close to their album/single versions. "James Bond Theme" was notable in that it was significantly different from what I'm used to. It took me awhile before I even recognized it, as Moby gave it lyrics and everything. "Honey" was basically the 118 Mix. After introducing each member of his backup band toward the end of the show, Moby dismissed them from the stage and stood still as "Thousand" played. As it accelerated, he got on top of a keyboard and stretched out his arms amidst a spectacular grand finale of strobing lights, concluding the performance even more dramatically than it began. After buying a couple cool t-shirts, I went to the tour bus. Moby was near it, talking with people and signing autographs. Some people had PLAY flats, but I don't know how they got them. (Anyone?) I got to talk with Moby a little bit, and he said 'hi' to me from Damian, whom he had met the night before in Salt Lake City. :) I also got to step onto his bus and converse with Scott (the drummer). Anyways, it's too bad so many people had to get turned away. Since the show was free, any number of people could have shown up, but the venue doesn't have unlimited capacity. The show was great, and there is just no way that I can adequately relate it via email. Everybody should try to go see Moby, if at all possible. His upcoming tourdates are on the moby.org news page. Daniel moby.org P.S. Thanks to Harry for driving me there and back. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) Sunday, Sunday, Sunday! Date: 19 Aug 1999 08:53:00 -0400 Sunday kicks major butt!! what else can I say? I certainly am not going to talk about religion. I'm sure there are special lists for that sort of thing. - jayson -----Original Message----- But does anyone else find "Sunday" to be a REALLY pretty and moving track? It's almost like the End of Everything album. Of course, it might as well be really bad and I don't know it since I'm in one of my depressed moods and I find weird stuff like this appealing sometimes. I just want to know if anyone else finds it really good. Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) Memories of Moby Date: 19 Aug 1999 10:10:16 -0400 Anyone remember the first time they saw Moby? Here's my story. It was May 24, 1995 and I remember that he came to DC on the "Everything is Wrong" tour. He did a signing at HMV Records in Georgetown (now gone) and I got a great photo of me and him. We both look great, a rarity for me. He was incredibly nice and gracious. He signed a flat for my sister (Caterina) and I remember spelling out her name so that he could address it to her. Then when he saw her name, he said, "Oh...Caterina. Why didn't you just say her name?" It was very funny. I never thought he'd actually heard it before. Anyway, that night he played the Black Cat. Senser opened up. They were okay. Moby came out and started with "Hymn". It was very quiet and beautiful, and he just sort of stood there, looking at his feet. Then when it was over, he looked up and said, "Hi...my name is Moby" and started to practically wreck the stage by playing "Ah Ah". It was so incredibly awesome. He had some sound problems that night. He said at one point..."This is so frustrating. It's like you're about to have sex and you're putting on the condom and POOF! You lose it." At one point his sound guy tried to repair something, and Moby played "New Dawn Fades" by Joy Division. He picked the girl standing next to me in the audience to play keyboards, and she was terrific. There were so many great songs that night. But the encore, of course, was "Thousand" and he did that thing where he stood on the keyboard and looked not unlike Christ. It was tremendous. It was not even the best show I've seen him do, but in some ways it was one of the most memorable. It was so exciting to watch him. I cannot WAIT to see him again in Chicago and DC. See some of you there, I hope! XO, Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "086" <086@oasisweb.com> Subject: (mobility) going to Austin Date: 19 Aug 1999 09:15:17 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BEEA23.5AD7CE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am coming in from Space City aka League City/Houston for the Austin Concert.. I am so ready for friday night. I am probably walking from my friend's house it is about a mile away to lzr.. I will keep an eye out for you - Buckoe What is a another cool place to go after lzr, or on thursdays and saturdays? 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Really? Er, kinda makes you wish you could travle all over the US and have lots of money and buy every thing MOBY puts out and see him like all the time. Which makes me think that seeing MOBY (for us it seems) is kinda like X-Mas. It's a once a year celebration (for us) that happens once a year if conditions are right (think about it, X-Mas is that way :-). We wait and wait for the day and when it comes, it seems so brief. *sigh* Oh also, I saw a used copy (how is that possible?) of "End of Everything" at a record store by my place. It was the import with the track, uh, what is that track called? "Animal...." something. *sigh* But I saw it and it was $30 for what looked like a slightly beaten copy but I did find it under "VoodoChild" instead of MOBY. I was kinda happy but I couldn't buy it since I was broke and I could've had it but then my bf would "own" me as he calls it. He's annoying when he has money. *sigh* --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stegenga, Scott" Subject: (mobility) Run Lola Run Date: 19 Aug 1999 09:35:50 -0500 Saw this excellent piece of celluloid last night. 90 minutes of wild film. In German, Its titled 'Lola rennt'. Anyone know German who can loosely translate? Like another film I've seen, 'Sliding Doors' this film takes the concept of 'what if she did this...' to a cool level. It showcases 3 'episodes' of a girl named Lola who must save her boyfriend, Manni, from getting killed by his mafia boss. He has lost 100,000 Deutche Marks and needs to get that amount in 20 minutes or his boss will suspect he's stealing from him. The eposides highlight her running to her father, a bank president, and maybe asking him for the money, then running to Manni just before he robs a supermarket at noon. There are alot of running shots. Alot. It starts with this phone call to Lola, and the rest of the scenes involver her running to various choices and the outcome for each trek ends differently, although she encounters the same people, and as she encounters a certsin person, the film would then pause to show what happens to that person later on in their life, as if running into Lola has somehow made a point for a certain direction in their life wether being mugged later on, married, or even involved in S&M. Each 'rehash' of events starts over with the shot of a phine receiver coming down on its base thus starting the heavy techno beats again. The prologue is very existential and, how else, German. With this artsy monologue about life's questions and answers all melding onto one or something, but then in kicks this heavy techno beat and it never stops. If techno were even made into a film, this would be its incarnation. This film and 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' are my two favorites this year. The website which has some cool clips is at http://www.spe.sony.com/classics/runlolarun/ The soundtrack is very very cool. Scott Stegenga - Internet Engineer Tunes.com ...same company, more stuff... 312-642-7560 x109 http://www.tunes.com http://www.rollingstone.com http://www.thesource.com http://www.downbeatjazz.com and many more to come... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) A.J. ! back! Date: 19 Aug 1999 13:43:00 +0000 No info on the Boston Show? All these people writing how awesome the Moby shows are, please help us all out who want to go see him in Boston. Oh, and those of you who missed Moby in Denver, don't feel too bad. I missed my first chance to see him in Hartford a few months ago and I even spent 60 bucks on the tickets. And Frankz, once a get a better copy that doesn't skip I will give yo a copy of that UTAH SAINTS 2nd album (Wired World). But it would have to be MD since I don't have a tape player. And Kimbalina, I don't have any trade rules except you give me something and I give you something. All I want is something I don't have, no matter what it is or how much it costs. So, if you have anything I didn't list or good stuff by other people, (email me) then it's cool. And also, BT is just one guy - BT Brian Tran... He is awesome, just wish he would start working harder on a new CD. And Bjorkdoll, what is the deal with this Bjork movie?! That is awesome. I could sit and just watch her ramble for 2 hours. Anyway, Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zbentz@d.umn.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) Run Lola Run Date: 19 Aug 1999 10:41:56 +0000 dude! that was "run lola run." the soundtrack is awesome! i've been playing it on my show for a month or two now. i love "running one" with it's cool humming/ahh-ing bits. i never got to see it 'cause i'd have to drive 300 miles round trip to minneapolis. however, i did travel 1000 miles round trip to see underworld in chicago...TWICE!! ok...later, [xaq] --On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 9:35 AM -0500 "Stegenga, Scott" wrote: > Saw this excellent piece of celluloid last night. 90 minutes of wild film. > > In German, Its titled 'Lola rennt'. Anyone know German who can loosely > translate? > > Like another film I've seen, 'Sliding Doors' this film takes the concept of > 'what if she did this...' to a cool level. It showcases 3 'episodes' of a > girl named Lola who must save her boyfriend, Manni, from getting killed by > his mafia boss. He has lost 100,000 Deutche Marks and needs to get that > amount in 20 minutes or his boss will suspect he's stealing from him. The > eposides highlight her running to her father, a bank president, and maybe > asking him for the money, then running to Manni just before he robs a > supermarket at noon. There are alot of running shots. Alot. > > It starts with this phone call to Lola, and the rest of the scenes involver > her running to various choices and the outcome for each trek ends > differently, although she encounters the same people, and as she encounters > a certsin person, the film would then pause to show what happens to that > person later on in their life, as if running into Lola has somehow made a > point for a certain direction in their life wether being mugged later on, > married, or even involved in S&M. Each 'rehash' of events starts over with > the shot of a phine receiver coming down on its base thus starting the heavy > techno beats again. > > The prologue is very existential and, how else, German. With this artsy > monologue about life's questions and answers all melding onto one or > something, but then in kicks this heavy techno beat and it never stops. > > If techno were even made into a film, this would be its incarnation. This > film and 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' are my two favorites this > year. > > The website which has some cool clips is at > http://www.spe.sony.com/classics/runlolarun/ > > The soundtrack is very very cool. > --------------------------------------------- > Scott Stegenga - Internet Engineer > Tunes.com > ...same company, more stuff... > 312-642-7560 x109 > http://www.tunes.com > http://www.rollingstone.com > http://www.thesource.com > http://www.downbeatjazz.com > and many more to come... > > ___________________________________ This default signature can be changed by choosing "Preferences" from the File menu and clicking on the Signature button. Mulberry 1.3 users should click on the "Outgoing" tab and then on the Signature button. Mulberry 1.3 users should also put their full name in the "Real Name" setting on the first Preferences panel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason miklian" Subject: Re: (mobility) Run Lola Run Date: 19 Aug 1999 10:02:15 PDT It's at the Lagoon, a kick ass movie theatre in Minneapolis....the German 'literal' translation is "Lola Runs", but it's being marketed as 'Run Lola Run'. Great great movie--anyone who likes techno and movies should see it-should be out on video soon though for people who don't have it close to them... MOBY in Minneapolis. From what I've heard on here about his recent shows, it should be a totally orgasmic experience! I think I'll be at First Ave. at like 3 PM drooling in anticipation... >From: zbentz@d.umn.edu >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) Run Lola Run >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:41:56 +0000 > >dude! that was "run lola run." the soundtrack is awesome! i've been >playing it on my show for a month or two now. i love "running one" with >it's cool humming/ahh-ing bits. i never got to see it 'cause i'd have to >drive 300 miles round trip to minneapolis. however, i did travel 1000 >miles round trip to see underworld in chicago...TWICE!! >ok...later, >[xaq] > >--On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 9:35 AM -0500 "Stegenga, Scott" > wrote: > > > Saw this excellent piece of celluloid last night. 90 minutes of wild >film. > > > > In German, Its titled 'Lola rennt'. Anyone know German who can loosely > > translate? > > > > Like another film I've seen, 'Sliding Doors' this film takes the >concept of > > 'what if she did this...' to a cool level. It showcases 3 'episodes' >of a > > girl named Lola who must save her boyfriend, Manni, from getting >killed by > > his mafia boss. He has lost 100,000 Deutche Marks and needs to get >that > > amount in 20 minutes or his boss will suspect he's stealing from him. >The > > eposides highlight her running to her father, a bank president, and >maybe > > asking him for the money, then running to Manni just before he robs a > > supermarket at noon. There are alot of running shots. Alot. > > > > It starts with this phone call to Lola, and the rest of the scenes >involver > > her running to various choices and the outcome for each trek ends > > differently, although she encounters the same people, and as she >encounters > > a certsin person, the film would then pause to show what happens to >that > > person later on in their life, as if running into Lola has somehow >made a > > point for a certain direction in their life wether being mugged later >on, > > married, or even involved in S&M. Each 'rehash' of events starts over >with > > the shot of a phine receiver coming down on its base thus starting the >heavy > > techno beats again. > > > > The prologue is very existential and, how else, German. With this >artsy > > monologue about life's questions and answers all melding onto one or > > something, but then in kicks this heavy techno beat and it never >stops. > > > > If techno were even made into a film, this would be its incarnation. >This > > film and 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' are my two favorites >this > > year. > > > > The website which has some cool clips is at > > http://www.spe.sony.com/classics/runlolarun/ > > > > The soundtrack is very very cool. > > --------------------------------------------- > > Scott Stegenga - Internet Engineer > > Tunes.com > > ...same company, more stuff... > > 312-642-7560 x109 > > http://www.tunes.com > > http://www.rollingstone.com > > http://www.thesource.com > > http://www.downbeatjazz.com > > and many more to come... > > > > > > > >___________________________________ >This default signature can >be changed by choosing "Preferences" >from the File menu and clicking >on the Signature button. > >Mulberry 1.3 users should click on the >"Outgoing" tab and then on the >Signature button. >Mulberry 1.3 users should also >put their full name in the >"Real Name" setting on the >first Preferences panel. > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) chartbeat Date: 19 Aug 1999 10:29:04 -0700 (PDT) like my new name? its the character from the BODYROCK video (its really me PAUL SIMPSON) anyway PLAY sold more copies this week than last, so it will gain in the charts, it was 172 last week its 9 On heatseekers now BODYROCK was 27 last week on rock, down 1 but w/a bullet, and its not in the top 20 yet but is approaching there.... it is number 16 on dance club play up from 19 and VH1 appparently put the vid (phizzo!) into rotation last week, but it hasnt been playing it much. they have however been playing WEIRD AL. whutz up with that?\ they also have the new CHEMS video in rotation!?!?!? huh!??!?!? bye!! (writing this in his mom's office at the library....shhhh....!!!!) === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) Kimby Date: 19 Aug 1999 12:00:00 -0400 Kimby, I believe the track is "Animal Sight" I can record that import cd of End of Everything for ya if you want AND I won't "own" you or anything. I'll just do it. If you want a tape, EMAIL me at: jgmagnus@bkb.com - Jayson -----Original Message----- Oh also, I saw a used copy (how is that possible?) of "End of Everything" at a record store by my place. It was the import with the track, uh, what is that track called? "Animal...." something. *sigh* But I saw it and it was $30 for what looked like a slightly beaten copy but I did find it under "VoodoChild" instead of MOBY. I was kinda happy but I couldn't buy it since I was broke and I could've had it but then my bf would "own" me as he calls it. He's annoying when he has money. *sigh* --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) buying Moby shirts in the US Date: 19 Aug 1999 11:13:18 PDT Well, I got Moby news from DEF today, and no decisions have been made regarding Moby's next US single. Bodyrock is still being promoted. UK & Worldwide will see the W"hy Does My Heart Feel So Bad?" release on October 11th. About a week ago many of you asked where the shirts are hiding at. Here's the info you're looking for: ---------------- We have lots of official Moby merchandise available. Please reply to this message with SEND LIST as the subject if you would like a list (e-mail) or catalogue (snail mail). However, bear in mind that we’re based in the UK and only accept payments in UK pounds - UK cheque or postal order, Eurocheque, international money order or cash (by registered post). No credit card orders - sorry. If you live in the US or Canada and would like to order Moby merchandise from the US, please send a message to mobymail@aol.com - you will be sent details of available merchandise and how to order it. Please be patient as this service is currently being set up. We are looking into setting up an internet merchandising service. Details will follow later. ---------------- -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Re:Denver show (kimby ranting again) Date: 19 Aug 1999 11:25:03 -0700 > > >At about 9:30, Moby's show began, and it was awesome from the get-go. > >"My Weakness" started playing as darkness and thick stage fog were > >pierced by diffuse moving blue lights. Moby and his live band (Scott, > >Greta, and a blonde guy whose name I missed) appeared and the action > >got underway. There was a ton of variety in the speed and mood of the > >songs. Here's what was played: > > My Weakness > Find My Baby > Machete > Porcelain > James Bond Theme > Go > Next Is The E > Everloving > Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? > If Things Were Perfect > Ah Ah > Bring Back My Happiness > Natural Blues > Bodyrock > Honey > Feeling So Real > Thousand I belive that is the exact same set he played in Phx. With the exception of Honey being further up the list then where it is there. I think he played it with in the top five songs. Not that it matters though. I was a bit saddned that we didn't get to hear any 'Animal Rights' in there. And, has any one heard MOBY play anything from 'Ambiant'? I would love to hear that. I think that's probably my favorite with 'I like to score' and 'End of Everything' with 'Play' mixed in there. :-) > > > >Moby was bursting with energy, sometimes playing various guitars, > >drums/percussion, and synths. The light effects were fantastic, and > >greatly enhanced the show. You really must see it to believe it. The > >sound quality left something to be desired, unfortunately. The synths > >were hard to hear over the drums and general distortion. According to > >some people I talked to, however, it sounded a lot better on the floor. He is a rather hyper boy isn't he? I wonder to God how he finds the energy nightly to put on such a show. I think he was slightly more energetic the first time I saw him along with Pablo the cute Mr. Bean looking bongo guy. Man, some hyper ppl. :-) > > >After introducing each member of his backup band toward the end of the > >show, Moby dismissed them from the stage and stood still as "Thousand" > >played. As it accelerated, he got on top of a keyboard and stretched > >out his arms amidst a spectacular grand finale of strobing lights, > >concluding the performance even more dramatically than it began. > I think from other accounts, we can conclude that MOBY does this as his finisher pretty much always. I wonder what significance this has for MOBY. I'm sure there's symbolism that I'm not see (Christ?) but does anyone have any other ideas? Has MOBY ever adressed it in an interview? That part of the show kinda scares me. I'm not sure why. Maybe I think he'll fall and hurt himself. :-P > > >After buying a couple cool t-shirts, I went to the tour bus. Moby was > >near it, talking with people and signing autographs. Some people had > >PLAY flats, but I don't know how they got them. (Anyone?) I got to > >talk with Moby a little bit, and he said 'hi' to me from Damian, whom > >he had met the night before in Salt Lake City. :) I also got to step > >onto his bus and converse with Scott (the drummer). > Wow, I've now formed the opinion that I really like Scott. He's very attractive but rather short. I remember hearing a boy in the front from the PHX show yelling somthing like "you're sexy Scott!" I was kinda taken aback by that. But I agreed. :-) BTW: did you see any Scooby Doo's lying around? :-P Or Tucan Sam's for that matter. *giggle* > > --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) SEND LIST Date: 19 Aug 1999 11:31:35 -0700 kimbalina@earthlink.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) Re: contradiction Date: 19 Aug 1999 08:00:42 +0200 you have to be ware (be aware) that yo quotes or signatures are in line with yo messages; Here we see intuition fuck logic and the result is you could LOGICALLY have seen Moby easyly but yo intuition failed! so, better dont fuck logic too much cause Kees gets angry... Bjorkdoll wrote: > > dang. > > not only did i mess up the 3 chances i had to see moby this summer but i > just found out today that the icelandic goddess - Bjork - was in seattle > all last week filming scenes for her movie, 'dancer in the dark'. > > i am sooooo completely bummed out that i missed a chance to see her up > close and personal....maybe even get a chance to talk to her. :( > > sarah > "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." > http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html now send that address, bjorky, yo tape is fab! > __________________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e > ______________________________________fuck logic fuck logic > ________________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t > ___________________________________and sweet intuition, honey -- --------------- "I'll be riding on the bus, 'till I Cadillac." ---------------z-z-top----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) Memories of Moby Date: 19 Aug 1999 13:47:23 -0500 But the encore, of course, was "Thousand" and he did that thing where he stood on the keyboard and looked not unlike Christ. It was tremendous. It was not even the best show I've seen him do, but in some ways it was one of the most memorable. It was so exciting to watch him. I cannot WAIT to see him again in Chicago and DC. Yo! I got goose bumbs just reading this because of course I've been there. This will be the 5th time I've seen him and I can't wait for Monday to arrive! Wow. Seriously, goose bumps!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) Run Lola Run Date: 19 Aug 1999 13:49:01 -0500 however, i did travel 1000 miles round trip to see underworld in chicago...TWICE!! ok...later, [xaq] Yo! I bet they were worth it! And then some. Their new album really trips my trigger. =) ~Miss MeL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) No Animal Rights??? Date: 19 Aug 1999 13:59:05 -0500 . I was a bit saddned that we didn't get to hear any 'Animal Rights' in there. Yo. This is really sad as Animal Rights is one of my favorite albums and that tour was great! What Love? That songs rocks!! Now I know what I will be screaming at the top of my lungs hoping he will play it in Minneapolis. FYI - I'm putting a web page together as we speak and one of my featured pictures is one of Moby I took in '92 and then had him sign in '93. It's quite cute, and when I brought it to him the second time to sign it, he said, "wow, I had more hair back then." =) ~Miss MeL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Minneapolis Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:04:06 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Davies, Andrew wrote: > Is there anyone here that is going to see Moby at the First Avenue show in > Minneapolis this coming Monday? I wanna hook up with some Mobility members! > Mail me and let me know! just so ya'll know, i'll be there in a plain black t-shirt with my long blonde hair tied up and my nerdy glasses on. oh, and i'm damn skinny and almost tall. [xaq] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) some questions Date: 19 Aug 1999 21:27:57 +0200 Hi everybody, I have some questions about remixes Moby did for other artists. I hope anyone can answer (some of) them. thanks! - Are there also any Moby mixes on the Only Time Will Tell CD single by Ten City? (there are 2 on the US 12") - How many Moby remixes are on the OMD remix 12" (not the promo)? And which one(s)? - Is there also a Moby remix on the UK release(?) of the album Orbital by Orbital? (the first album) Bart PS. I got my 100th. Moby sound carrier today, pretty sick huh? It's the US Go remixes CD, one of the best Moby CD singles ever! "Love is stronger than hate, and humility is stronger than pride" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) DALLAS Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:24:28 -0500 Rob Skipworth and I, and some friends of Rob's are making the trek down to Dallas from various points in Arkansas saturday morning, and it ain't to see JR. We're headed for Moby's show at the Lizard Lounge in Deep Ellum. I bought my ticket Tuesday from Ticketbastard. And I'm itching with anticipation to get there. Is anyone else from the list going to be in attendence. it would be great to have a little listee get together at the club before or afterwards and put faces to names we see all the time. I haven't decided what I'm wearing yet. *Maybe* my white/green ringer "Revolver" tshirt with the cover for moby's SubPop 7" on it. Or if I don't want to be "that guy" -- you know him, he's the loser at every show that wears the band's tshirt to their own show -- I may go in basic black if the texas heat doesn't kill me. Anyway, look for me. I'm shortish, brown hair in a buzz cut and glasses. Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises bigwig@arkansas.net "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've often wondered why there was no musical commentary on writing." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author "The early bird gets the worm. But the second mouse gets the cheese." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) No Animal Rights??? Date: 19 Aug 1999 16:23:02 -0700 I asked Moby after one show why he doesn't play any Animal Rights stuff live. And he simply said that he hasn't teached that new chick bass player the bass lines yet. So I doubt they will find any time during their tour to teach her the riffs unless they got lots of rehearsal time inbetween. Cause, I always wanted to hear Come On Baby live...but guess not :P Later, Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) No Animal Rights??? Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:35:47 -0700 > >I asked Moby after one show why he doesn't play any Animal Rights stuff > >live. > >And he simply said that he hasn't teached that new chick bass player the > >bass lines yet. > >So I doubt they will find any time during their tour to teach her the riffs > >unless they got lots of rehearsal time inbetween. Cause, I always wanted to > >hear Come On Baby live...but guess not :P > Gee, I wonder if she doesn't read music or if MOBY just doesn't have the bass lines transcribed. But which ever it is, it seems kinda weird. When my bf and I were watching her play, we didn't think she was really playing most of the time. Odd. --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) English Pounds ----> American Dollars ?? Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:41:13 -0700 Okay, hate to bug you all again, but can anyone explain how English Pounds translate into American Dollars? I'm looking at the Action Records site and I'm wondering how much things cost but ofcourse (*giggle*) it's in pounds. Does anyone know the conversions? --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: (mobility) Thousand Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:44:29 -0700 Thousand sucks on record, but for some reason is great live=2E Just a fleeting thought=2E Deemo np: Thousand ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stegenga, Scott" Subject: RE: (mobility) English Pounds ----> American Dollars ?? Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:22:17 -0500 About 1.60-1.70 American Dollars per pound. And then dont forget to add the VAT (Value Added Tax) of 17.5% on top of the price, unless its already included. > -----Original Message----- > From: kimbalina [mailto:kimbalina@earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 4:41 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) English Pounds ----> American Dollars ?? > > > Okay, hate to bug you all again, but can anyone explain how > English Pounds > translate into American Dollars? I'm looking at the Action > Records site and > I'm wondering how much things cost but ofcourse (*giggle*) > it's in pounds. > Does anyone know the conversions? > > --kimby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) English Pounds ----> American Dollars ?? Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:26:48 -0500 1 UK pound = approximately 1.6 US dollars. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) A.J. ! BOSTON MOBY SHOW!! Date: 19 Aug 1999 15:51:00 -0400 OK, I finally got ahold of WBCN radio to confirm the Moby show. MOBY will be playing at the Hatchshell August 26th for FREE! Opening acts start at 6:30pm (they didn't say who). They guesstimated that MOBY would be on at around 8pm. The Hatchshell is right along the Charles River in Boston. You CANNOT miss it. If you are in Boston, ask ANYONE where the Hatchshell is and they will point you in the correct direction. Any other questions?? - Jayson jgmagnus@bkb.com -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 1:43 PM No info on the Boston Show? All these people writing how awesome the Moby shows are, please help us all out who want to go see him in Boston. Oh, and those of you who missed Moby in Denver, don't feel too bad. I missed my first chance to see him in Hartford a few months ago and I even spent 60 bucks on the tickets. And Frankz, once a get a better copy that doesn't skip I will give yo a copy of that UTAH SAINTS 2nd album (Wired World). But it would have to be MD since I don't have a tape player. And Kimbalina, I don't have any trade rules except you give me something and I give you something. All I want is something I don't have, no matter what it is or how much it costs. So, if you have anything I didn't list or good stuff by other people, (email me) then it's cool. And also, BT is just one guy - BT Brian Tran... He is awesome, just wish he would start working harder on a new CD. And Bjorkdoll, what is the deal with this Bjork movie?! That is awesome. I could sit and just watch her ramble for 2 hours. Anyway, Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) boston Date: 19 Aug 1999 20:18:11 EDT has anyone heard about moby playing in boston on the 26th. some guy at work told me he is playing the hatchshell for free. and he also said it was for WFNX not WBCN. Confusion confusion. Help! riz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) boston Date: 19 Aug 1999 23:38:06 EDT it was wbcn -not fnx. imm gonna go!!! yay!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) Moby in Minneapolis Date: 19 Aug 1999 23:05:46 -0500 As it gets closer to Monday I just get more excited. I've never seen Moby in person before and I have been waiting years for this. I am interested in meeting anyone who from this list who is going Monday night. I'll be the guy wearing the blue t-shirt that says Oldskool on it like the one that Moby's DJ was wearing when he performed on Conan O'Brien a few weeks ago. I am going to get as close to the stage as possible. Anyone who sees me is more than welcome to come up and talk to me. I've already talked to Andy. I know Xaq is going to be there (Xaq find me I want to know what happened during the interview). Jason if you are seriously going that early maybe we can hook up and flag Moby down. I plan on being there no later than 6 or 6:30. If anything to get in line. Melanie come find me. If I don't see any of you there then I hope you have a good time. Xaq, I think kimby came up with a good question to ask Moby in the interview. Ask him about "Thousand" and if it has significance to him or why he always ends with it. Other than because it sounds like it would be cool. Guess I'll know on Monday, won't I. Tim p.s. Xaq, thanks for replying to that email I sent you. I hate to ask for things like that but I couldn't resist. I understand. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJTripp2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby Stuff Date: 20 Aug 1999 05:27:52 EDT Subj: Moby Merchandise BCC: DJTripp2 For those of you that have waited patiently for an opportunity to buy Moby merchandise, unfortunately, we will have to ask you to wait a bit longer. We are currently working out an arrangement with our merch company to offer Moby stuff on the web. Hold on a little longer. Thanks for your support and patience. Mobymail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trousers Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: contradiction Date: 20 Aug 1999 03:20:35 -0700 (PDT) > so, better dont fuck logic too much > cause Kees gets angry... fuck off you knob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trousers Subject: Re: (mobility) English Pounds ----> American Dollars ?? Date: 20 Aug 1999 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) it's roughly 1.6 dollars to the pound, but just go to your search engine and type in currency converter --- kimbalina wrote: > explain how English Pounds > translate into American Dollars? Does anyone know the conversions? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Minneapolis Date: 20 Aug 1999 10:49:22 -0700 > > > >Xaq, I think kimby came up with a good question to ask Moby in the > >interview. Ask him about "Thousand" and if it has significance to him or > >why he always ends with it. Other than because it sounds like it would be > >cool. Guess I'll know on Monday, won't I. > Oh hey, if any one finds out can they let me know? I'm really curious now that I've been thinking about it. As I said, I think we can all conclude that "Thousand" is his finisher. Why? Okay, that's all I want to know, then I can die a happy girl....:-) --kimby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Minneapolis Date: 20 Aug 1999 13:08:11 -0500 As I said, I think we can all conclude that "Thousand" is his finisher. Why? Okay, that's all I want to know. Yo! I've read before that Moby feels that Thousand is his only complete song. This is probably why he feels most comfortable finishing his set with it. That's what I think. ~Miss Melanie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: (mobility) Moby Tonight Date: 20 Aug 1999 13:25:09 -0500 I can't believe I finally get to see Moby tonight! Woo Hoo! Course, like some others I'm a little disappointed that he's not playing anything off Animal Rights...but hey, that's okay! I wanna meet other mobility folks! So if you're gonna be at the show tonight, look for the guy in the green Doc Martens and the tomorrowpeople shirt...we should all congregate by the buses after the show and give him hugs and Hi's from the list! oh well..only 7 1/2 hours to go! Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: (mobility) merch Date: 20 Aug 1999 13:44:17 -0500 Me again...heh....two things... 1) Can someone who's been to one of the shows this tour tell me what kind of stuff he's selling? Need to know how much cash to carry...any CD's? Are the T-shirts pretty cool? 2) Here's a quote for everybody's general amusement. England's New Music Express has a strange love/hate thing going on with Moby. Every review of his CD's they start out making fun of him, then grudgingly admit that he's a genius. This is from the review of "Everything is Wrong: Mixed and Remixed" "And here he pulls off the double whammy of demonstrating near-genius in yet another field, and validating every concept of remixing in the process. Don't you just hate smart-arses? " Incidentally they also gave one of the best reviews I've seen Animal Rights get...check it out at: http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19980101000045reviews.html Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason miklian" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at first ave monday the 23rd Date: 20 Aug 1999 11:49:37 PDT moby questions-- due to the new press 'popularity' of your vegan beliefs, do you feel a need to be a leader of the vegan lifestyle? do you ever feel a pressure to change people who do not want to be changed? or do you just whip up a batch of chocolate chip pancakes and forget about the whole thing?? what is your favorite new instrument to Play (bad bad pun) or compose with?? when you decide to release a single, who decides which remixes are selected?? do you have total contol on which singles/remixes are selected? thanks xaq! see you there! Jason >From: zbentz@d.umn.edu >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) moby at first ave monday the 23rd >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:09:13 -0600 > >yo moby heads! > >i'm going to be doing an in-depth interview with moby at first ave this >comming monday before the show in minneapolis. what i need from all of >you are a few questions you would like me to ask him. i did this the >last time he was here and i know a lot of you were happy that he >answered your questions. so please send them to me! >i will of course be posting the entire interview to the list as soon as >possible. >thanks for your help! > >[xaq] >___________________________________ >This default signature can >be changed by choosing "Preferences" >from the File menu and clicking >on the Signature button. > >Mulberry 1.3 users should click on the >"Outgoing" tab and then on the >Signature button. >Mulberry 1.3 users should also >put their full name in the >"Real Name" setting on the >first Preferences panel. > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: (mobility) Thousand Finale Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:29:53 -0700 Heh...if you had the fastest techno song ever written which is only based on beats per minute accelerating from 1 to a 1000 bpm's and back down to 1, which is the soul of techno, the BPM. Wouldn't you use it to close a show and use it as a perfect way to end something. That's all she wrote... Later, Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) merch Date: 20 Aug 1999 12:11:12 -0700 the t-shirts are ok. there are some long sleeved ones with his little drawing of himself on it. i bought a small yellow one because all the other shirts are always too big for me. then, there are Play t-shirts, a black one and a white one. i believe that there were also hats, as well as the Play CD. the t-shirts cost $15, as well as the CD. i think the long sleeved ones were $20. so, it depends on how much u r looking to spend. i took $40 with me and i bought a shirt, still having $ left over. the venue i was at was selling drinks and stuff, too... so u may want to bring $ for water or whatever. i hope that answers your Q's! plov -----Original Message----- >Me again...heh....two things... > >1) Can someone who's been to one of the shows this tour tell me what kind >of stuff he's selling? Need to know how much cash to carry...any CD's? Are >the T-shirts pretty cool? > >2) Here's a quote for everybody's general amusement. England's New Music >Express has a strange love/hate thing going on with Moby. Every review of >his CD's they start out making fun of him, then grudgingly admit that he's a >genius. This is from the review of "Everything is Wrong: Mixed and Remixed" > >"And here he pulls off the double whammy of demonstrating near-genius in yet >another field, and validating every concept of remixing in the process. >Don't you just hate smart-arses? " > >Incidentally they also gave one of the best reviews I've seen Animal Rights >get...check it out at: >http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19980101000045reviews.html > > >Buckoe > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: (mobility) oops Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:08:54 -0500 It was just pointed out to me that I sent the wrong address for the Animal Rights review (thanks Melanie) this is the correct address: http://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews/19980101000119reviews.html Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at first ave monday the 23rd Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:23:37 -0500 \> >yo moby heads! > > > >i'm going to be doing an in-depth interview with moby at first ave this > >comming monday before the show in minneapolis. what i need from all of > >you are a few questions you would like me to ask him. i did this the > >last time he was here and i know a lot of you were happy that he > >answered your questions. so please send them to me! > >i will of course be posting the entire interview to the list as soon as > >possible. > >thanks for your help! > > Oooh...I nearly forgot to answer this! Let's see 1. In light of recent political climate where non-politcal figures are making waves in the politcal arena (Jesse Ventura, Warren Beaty) would you ever consider running for office yourself? 2. When you're doing remixes for other artists, do you tend to work with them a lot, or do you just pick up the tapes and drop off your mix? 3. What's your favorite and least favorite things about being on tour? 4. Do you have any plans to release a collection of your videos? Okay, that'll do it for me, thanks xaq! Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) moby rates others and things Date: 20 Aug 1999 01:02:59 -0700 (PDT) To make this moby related...I read a small article/interview with moby in the recent Resonance Magazine where he rated a bunch of other artists/albums. It was a fun read...and if I find it I'll type it up. He did mention in one part (not to drag up the religion thing again..) that he hasn't been a practicing christian in quite some time. Whatever that means. :) On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, AJ Brustein wrote: > And Bjorkdoll, what is the deal with this Bjork movie?! That is awesome. I > could sit and just watch her ramble for 2 hours. Ah, the infamous Bjork movie. The movie that crushed my heart cuz they were filming here and I didn't sense it. Well it is called 'Dancer in the Dark' and it is a musical, so it probably won't get released in the US. You can get info about it here: http://intimate.org/bjork/special/movie/ http://gargamel.com/pomegranate/dancer_in_the_dark.html Ooh yeah. And if any of you are curious I put up new 'party pictures' on my website from my weekend escapades. Some of them are of poopy quality because my camera is finally wussing out on me so they are overexposed or blurry, etc. Oh well...time to get a new camera i guess!! :) Enjoy! sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html _____________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e _________________________________fuck logic fuck logic ___________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t ______________________________and sweet intuition, honey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: (mobility) local article Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:42:37 -0500 Me again...just found this in my local paper...thought I'd pass it along...got some interesting quotes including that his favorite vegetarian restaurant is here in Austin...(I'm gonna have to check it out now..) __________________________________________________________________ New York techno music veteran MOBY is all over the map these days (and in Austin this weekend) by chris riemenschneider american-statesman staff Thursday, August 19, 1999 It looks like it might be Moby's year. Spin magazine already named the 33-year-old techno guru's new album "Play" the 20th best album of the '90s, the highest of the three albums released this year on the list of 90. Other magazines, too, have been maxing out their rating systems over the album, a haunting hodgepodge of instrumental grooves, techno-styled ambience and samples of Deep South gospel recordings. The biggest impression Moby made this year, though, came at Woodstock '99. His performance in an old B-52 hangar the first night of the festival was a bona fide hit, attracting many of the 220,000 fans on hand and giving them a downright festive, feel-good moment. Then when things turned sour the third night at Woodstock, the ever-vocal New Yorker was the first performer to decry the destruction and displays of testosterone, his angry quotes posted all over music Web sites. "There were many good things at Woodstock ('99)," Moby, real name Richard Hall, clarified over the phone from his Manhattan loft last week. "It was just the whole meat-head factor that was inexcusable. You can't label something a peace-and-love event and have Insane Clown Posse and Limp Bizkit playing it." An outspoken vegan, Christian, environmentalist, non-drug user, Moby has as many people thinking he's a pretentious lunkhead prone to cry while performing his own music as he has fans captured by his innovation. There's no question, though, that his musical output has been fascinating to follow. His 1990 "Go" single -- a now legendary reworking of the "Twin Peaks" theme -- made him one of the first stars of the '90s rave scenes. Subsequent singles and albums found him bouncing from house/dance sounds to ambient movie scores to, most surprisingly, the guitar-heavy punk sound of his 1997 CD, "Animal Rights." Many fans perceived the album as Moby shunning techno music. " `Animal Rights' happened because I had started playing guitar again and was listening to a lot of guitar-based music and was really just drawn to it," he explained. "It wasn't a rejection of anything. I love dance music, and all the different facets of it." "Play" is certainly more dance-flavored than "Animal Rights," but as Moby said, "it's not the kind of album you'd put on at a party." A few rhythmic songs like the brilliant "Honey" and hip-hop-flavored "Bodyrock" give way to haunting tracks such as "If Things Were Perfect" and "Machete," featuring Moby on vocals, and spiritual-based ambient numbers like "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?" All of it offers a more natural, less electronic sound. The last time Moby came to town was to DJ for a rave at the Austin Music Hall. He has been here numerous times before, too, taking part in South by Southwest, mixing a soundtrack single with the Butthole Surfers ("Great fun. I wish we could have had more time") and to take in the cuisine at West Lynn Cafe ("My favorite vegetarian restaurant in the world"). This time, it's to play La Zona Rosa with his band on Friday. "It feels great having a band, there's just so much more you can do," Moby said. "DJ-ing is more of a hobby for me now. I enjoy it, but it's not something I can get too serious about." As for the early praise for "Play," he said, "That's great. I guess I'm doing something right." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) No Animal Rights??? Date: 20 Aug 1999 09:19:00 -0400 Come On Baby is pretty good live. I saw that a couple of years ago when AR came out and MOby played at one of those 20-band concert things with 3 different stages. He played last on Stage TWO, THEN after his set he went over to the MAIN stage where the Mighty Mighty Bostones were playing and the concert closed with TWIRFMR. MOby played the song and the MMB were the backup band. I believe they even had the MIssion Of Burma guitarist there who wrote the song. It was pretty cool. - Jayson -----Original Message----- So I doubt they will find any time during their tour to teach her the riffs unless they got lots of rehearsal time inbetween. Cause, I always wanted to hear Come On Baby live...but guess not :P Later, Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) boston Date: 20 Aug 1999 09:28:00 -0400 WELL, I CALLED WBCN to get the Hatchshell info ... -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 8:18 PM has anyone heard about moby playing in boston on the 26th. some guy at work told me he is playing the hatchshell for free. and he also said it was for WFNX not WBCN. Confusion confusion. Help! riz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) merch Date: 20 Aug 1999 14:59:41 -0600 since i missed the moby show here in denver, anyone going to an upcoming show want to get me one of those long sleeve shirts with mobys little character on there, ill gladly repay them the cost of the shirt and more than enough for shipping. anyone willing to help me, please write back to me at prixfix@dreamscape.com so as not to clutter the list, i will be greatly appreciative. -dale- We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) news & tour info Date: 20 Aug 1999 16:38:15 -0600 mobymail@aol.com sent the following info out this afternoon (I've fixed the formatting a little): First up, Moby news. * Moby's performance at the KDGE festival in Dallas will be available on Broadcast.com for on-demand streaming starting August 23rd at www.broadcast.com/music/concerts/moby * Moby will be the in-house DJ for MTV's Video Music Awards on September 9th. * Moby has added a show in Charlotte, NC at the WEND Weenie Roast on September 19th * Moby will appear on the morning show in Minneapolis August 23rd at approx. 8:00 AM. He will also appear at Let It Be Records for an autograph session at 8:00 PM the same day. * Moby will perform live on-air on the Mancow radio show August 25th at approx. 9:00 AM on Q101 in Chicago. * Moby will be spinning on WBCN (Boston) in the afternoon on August 26th to help promote his gig at the Hatch Shell * Moby will have an autograph sessionn set up at Streetwise Records after his set at the Liberty Memorial Park Spirit Festival in Kansas City on September 3rd. * Sunday September 5th, Moby will perform at WWCD in Columbus for their Big Room Performance. * September 7th, Moby will be a guest DJ at WYEP in Pittsburgh Again, our regrets that we still do not have a merchandise set-up on the web. It is in the works, we promise. on to the dates... Moby Tour 1999 Aug 20 Austin, TX La Zona Rosa Aug 21 Dallas, TX Lizard Lounge Aug 23 Minneapolis, MN First Avenue Aug 24 Milwaukee, WI Rave Aug 25 Chicago, IL Metro Aug 26 Boston, MA WBCN at the Hatch Shell Aug 28 Toronto, Ont Warehouse Aug 29 Buffalo, NY WEDJ Edgefest@ LaSalle Park Aug 31 Detroit, MI St. Andrews Hall Sep 1 Cleveland, OH Odeon Sep 3 Kansas City, MO Liberty Memorial Park Spirit Festival Sep 4 St. Louis, MO Karma Sep 5 Columbus, OH Newport Music Hall Sep 7 Pittsburgh, PA Metropol Sep 9 MOBY ON MTV VIDEO MUSIC AWARDS Sep 10 Washington D.C. The Nation Sep 11 Montreal Cream Festival Sep 14 Ft. Myers, FL Orbit Nightclub Sep 15 Lake Buena Vista, FL House Of Blues Sep 16 St. Petersburg, FL Jannus Landing Sep 18 Atlanta, GA 99x Radio Show@ Lakewood Ampitheater Sep 19 Charlotte, NC WEND Weenie Roast @ Blockbuster Pavillion Oct 10 Palm Springs, CA Coachella Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hytinic@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Saint Louis info, anyone? Date: 20 Aug 1999 22:54:08 EDT Mobyfans... Hi all! Just wondering if anyone had any info on the Moby show Sept. 4th in St. Louis, MO. Stuff like how much tickets are, if it's likely to sell out (small club or bigger venue), and what time it starts. My female companion and I are seriously thinking of making a Labor Day weekend jaunt up there for the show, and whatever else happens... Thanks in advance for any info... - Chip np - Opus III - "It's A Fine Day" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) some questions Date: 21 Aug 1999 00:00:00 +0000 > - Is there also a Moby remix on the UK release(?) of the album Orbital > by Orbital? (the first album) Bart, the Moby remix is only on the US release. All of the other releases have the original Spead Freak, and am sorry to say, but I actually like the original better than the Moby mix. Actually the other releases of Green (I have the Jap release too) are much better and quite different than the US release. Check it out! Also, Thank you Jayson! I am going to do everything to get there to see Moby on Thursday! I guess I will have to skip Orientation but my Mom will be there anyway, so she can go by herself. I don't need it... Anyway, Thanks dude! Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin J. Guhl" Subject: (mobility) Song Played At Concert's Beginning? Date: 20 Aug 1999 23:29:12 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01BEEB63.CF2BDAC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, A friend of mine is an adamant follower of Moby and recently I = accompanied him to the Philadelphia TLA concert on July 28th. Although = I'm only familiar with a few of Moby's songs, I quite enjoyed the show. However, I was left with a burning question: As the show began and before the band came out on stage, the fog machine = went into action and a recorded song began playing over the speakers. It = was ambient and featured a vocal chorus of children. I thought it was = wonderful and wanted to procure a copy of it.=20 My friend said it was "Hymn," but I bought Everything Was Wrong and this = was not the song (similar, but not the one). I enjoy the album, but = still want to get that song. Can anyone help me out with knowledge of = what this track was and where to find it? Thank you kindly, Kevin ------=_NextPart_000_007C_01BEEB63.CF2BDAC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,
 
A friend of mine is an adamant follower = of Moby and=20 recently I accompanied him to the Philadelphia TLA concert on July 28th. = Although I'm only familiar with a few of Moby's songs, I quite enjoyed = the=20 show.
 
However, I was left with a burning=20 question:
 
As the show began and before the band = came out on=20 stage, the fog machine went into action and a recorded song began = playing=20 over the speakers. It was ambient and featured a vocal chorus of = children.=20 I thought it was wonderful and wanted to procure a copy of it. =
 
My friend said it was "Hymn," but I = bought=20 Everything Was Wrong and this was not the song (similar, but not the = one). I=20 enjoy the album, but still want to get that song. Can anyone help me out = with=20 knowledge of what this track was and where to find it?
 
Thank you kindly,
 
Kevin
------=_NextPart_000_007C_01BEEB63.CF2BDAC0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) Song Played At Concert's Beginning? Date: 20 Aug 1999 23:16:54 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEEB62.175DD3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THat is "My Weakness"...the last track off Play -----Original Message----- From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kevin J. Guhl Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 8:29 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Song Played At Concert's Beginning? Greetings, A friend of mine is an adamant follower of Moby and recently I accompanied him to the Philadelphia TLA concert on July 28th. Although I'm only familiar with a few of Moby's songs, I quite enjoyed the show. However, I was left with a burning question: As the show began and before the band came out on stage, the fog machine went into action and a recorded song began playing over the speakers. It was ambient and featured a vocal chorus of children. I thought it was wonderful and wanted to procure a copy of it. My friend said it was "Hymn," but I bought Everything Was Wrong and this was not the song (similar, but not the one). I enjoy the album, but still want to get that song. Can anyone help me out with knowledge of what this track was and where to find it? Thank you kindly, Kevin ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEEB62.175DD3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
THat=20 is "My Weakness"...the last track off Play
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kevin J. = Guhl
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 8:29 PM
To:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com
Subject: (mobility) Song Played = At=20 Concert's Beginning?

Greetings,
 
A friend of mine is an adamant = follower of Moby=20 and recently I accompanied him to the Philadelphia TLA concert on July = 28th.=20 Although I'm only familiar with a few of Moby's songs, I quite enjoyed = the=20 show.
 
However, I was left with a burning=20 question:
 
As the show began and before the band = came out on=20 stage, the fog machine went into action and a recorded song began = playing=20 over the speakers. It was ambient and featured a vocal chorus of=20 children. I thought it was wonderful and wanted to procure a copy of = it.=20
 
My friend said it was "Hymn," but I = bought=20 Everything Was Wrong and this was not the song (similar, but not the = one). I=20 enjoy the album, but still want to get that song. Can anyone help me = out with=20 knowledge of what this track was and where to find it?
 
Thank you kindly,
 
Kevin
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEEB62.175DD3E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin J. Guhl" Subject: Re: (mobility) Song Played At Concert's Beginning? Date: 20 Aug 1999 23:42:07 -0400 THat is "My Weakness"...the last track off Play Thank you, Chris. I suppose I'll have the pleasure of purchasing another Moby album. :-) Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: (mobility) Tonight's show Date: 21 Aug 1999 01:01:40 -0500 Set list for tonight's show in Austin...(I can guarantee the accuracy as I purloined the bassist's setlist! My Weakness Find My Baby Machete Porcelain James Bond Theme Go Next is the E Everloving Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? If Things Were Perfect Ah-Ah Bring Back My Happiness Natural Blues Bodyrock Honey Feeling So Real Thousand Various Quotes: Before Bond: "This is, as far as I know, the only cover we'll be playing tonight. It's from a little known movie that I did the music for a few years back." (In addition to extending the intro and adding lyrics he also rapped the first verse of Public Enemy's "Bring the Noise" and sounded pretty damn good too." "The one bad thing about performing is...it hurts. If I'm not in pain the next morning, I didn't put on a good show. But that's not an excuse for you guys to throw shit at me." Before Go: "The first time I played in Austin was in 1993 opening for the Prodigy. These next two songs are two I played then. I was playing them six years ago." Before Ah-Ah "Shhhh. This next song is a VERY slow, VERY sad song, and I need for you all to be very quiet." Before Bodyrock "I just have to say to all of you that live here in Austin, you're very lucky. I've played and traveled all over Texas, and it's a pretty nice state...but this is the place to live. You've got hills - that's nice. You've got bats...well I've read that you have bats...I haven't actually seen that you have bats (ed. note...wrong time of year) You have good radio stations (audience boohs) Well I thought they were good. This next song, I think is a pretty sexy song, so we're gonna play it for you now." Before Honey "I have to ask you a question. How many of the ladies here sleep naked? (screams and applause) Well this next song is dedicated to all the ladies that sleep naked. Especially those that would like to someday sleep naked with me." Before Feeling So Real "This next song...I may not be very objective...but I think this next song is the most beautiful disco song ever written." (Ed. note..I agree!) Before Thousand He introduced the band then said "Well unfortunately, this next song I have to play by myself. So let's bid our adieus to the band. Bye! This song is, I believe, the fastest song ever written." He also played snippets of Smoke on the Water, and another cover that I think was a Led Zepplin song. After the unknown cover someone in the audience shouted something..."What? We know lots of covers! You want us to do more covers? You want us to do no covers? I can't understand whether you're saying more or no! (audience screams..more covers) alright, we'll see." All in all, an absolutely breathtaking, unforgettable show. If I didn't have a friend coming into town tomorrow I'd hop in a car and go see the Dallas show. If you guys haven't already bought tickets for upcoming shows...sell blood, sell your organs, sell your children, quit your jobs...whatever you have to do...go see him! You will not regret it! Buckoe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) Tonight's show Date: 20 Aug 1999 23:44:59 -0700 moby said some of those same things at the AZ show.. only he worded yours diff't. for honey, he dedicated to all of the women in the house. he actually seemed to talk more at your concert. i think that both moby & BBS weren't too happy @ the AZ show because it was so hot. the lineup appears to be the same as well.... hmmm.... plovious -----Original Message----- >Set list for tonight's show in Austin...(I can guarantee the accuracy as I >purloined the bassist's setlist! > >My Weakness >Find My Baby >Machete >Porcelain >James Bond Theme >Go >Next is the E >Everloving >Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? >If Things Were Perfect >Ah-Ah >Bring Back My Happiness >Natural Blues >Bodyrock >Honey >Feeling So Real >Thousand > > >Various Quotes: > >Before Bond: "This is, as far as I know, the only cover we'll be playing >tonight. It's from a little known movie that I did the music for a few >years back." (In addition to extending the intro and adding lyrics he also >rapped the first verse of Public Enemy's "Bring the Noise" and sounded >pretty damn good too." > >"The one bad thing about performing is...it hurts. If I'm not in pain the >next morning, I didn't put on a good show. But that's not an excuse for you >guys to throw shit at me." > >Before Go: "The first time I played in Austin was in 1993 opening for the >Prodigy. These next two songs are two I played then. I was playing them >six years ago." > >Before Ah-Ah "Shhhh. This next song is a VERY slow, VERY sad song, and I >need for you all to be very quiet." > >Before Bodyrock "I just have to say to all of you that live here in Austin, >you're very lucky. I've played and traveled all over Texas, and it's a >pretty nice state...but this is the place to live. You've got hills - >that's nice. You've got bats...well I've read that you have bats...I >haven't actually seen that you have bats (ed. note...wrong time of year) >You have good radio stations (audience boohs) Well I thought they were good. >This next song, I think is a pretty sexy song, so we're gonna play it for >you now." > >Before Honey "I have to ask you a question. How many of the ladies here >sleep naked? (screams and applause) Well this next song is dedicated to >all the ladies that sleep naked. Especially those that would like to >someday sleep naked with me." > >Before Feeling So Real "This next song...I may not be very objective...but I >think this next song is the most beautiful disco song ever written." (Ed. >note..I agree!) > >Before Thousand He introduced the band then said "Well unfortunately, this >next song I have to play by myself. So let's bid our adieus to the band. >Bye! This song is, I believe, the fastest song ever written." > > >He also played snippets of Smoke on the Water, and another cover that I >think was a Led Zepplin song. After the unknown cover someone in the >audience shouted something..."What? We know lots of covers! You want us to >do more covers? You want us to do no covers? I can't understand whether >you're saying more or no! (audience screams..more covers) alright, we'll >see." > > >All in all, an absolutely breathtaking, unforgettable show. If I didn't >have a friend coming into town tomorrow I'd hop in a car and go see the >Dallas show. If you guys haven't already bought tickets for upcoming >shows...sell blood, sell your organs, sell your children, quit your >jobs...whatever you have to do...go see him! You will not regret it! > >Buckoe > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Todd Sanders" <086@oasisweb.com> Subject: (mobility) Friday's show in Austin Date: 21 Aug 1999 02:59:54 -0500 I was at the Austin Show also.. Boom Boom Satellites Rocked.. Meet them after the show by there bus, they were just sitting on the curb chilling. Moby Rocked, My adrenaline is still pumping. Moby needs a live album - Even my friends that did not love the "PLAY" albumen loved all the songs Moby played off it. Went to the back door of the club, the security guard tried to close the door kind of like a big garage door. A second later he opened up and moby had lots of people surrounding him in the club and he saw us outside waiting he came right to us and was very friendly.. I think who he knows whose his real fans are. I talked to him about mobility and he said he doesn't check it much when he is on the road because it is hard to get on the net, but when not on tour he checks it often. I agree with buckoe, do anything you can to go to the show. 086 aka Todd Sanders ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) Moby at Let It Be in Minneapolis Date: 21 Aug 1999 05:25:45 -0500 >* Moby will appear on the morning show in Minneapolis August 23rd at approx. > 8:00 AM. Damn it. Guess I'm going to have to get up early on Monday and tape it. I'm not a morning person. >He will also appear at Let It Be Records for an autograph session > at 8:00 PM the same day. Yeah. I walked over tonight to Let It Be and there were Moby and Play stickers and signs all over their windows. The announcement was posted that he will be there at 8 p.m. That's kind of weird being that the doors open at 8 at first avenue. I wonder how long Moby will be there. I was wondering why they were openeing the doors at 8 and the tickets said the concert was starting at 9:30. Guess I'll have to make a stop at Let It Be before the concert. I wanted to check out Boom Boom but I think I'd rather talk to Moby. I'm finally going to be able to see him. Monday is going to ROCK! Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Tonight's show Date: 21 Aug 1999 05:07:44 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Daniel Orion Davis wrote: > Porcelain Ack. Okay...does anyone out there have any bootleg videos of any of Moby's live shows? Since I didn't get to see him perform this song live and in person (which woulda been soooo amazing) I can settle for seeing a video of him performing it. Anyone? :) > "The one bad thing about performing is...it hurts. If I'm not in pain the > next morning, I didn't put on a good show. But that's not an excuse for you > guys to throw shit at me." Yikes. What was getting thrown at him? I never get that...why do people throw things at concerts? I was at a Beck concert once and someone threw up a shoe and it hit him right smack on the hand when he was playing a slow quiet acoustic song. Very irritating. > Before Honey "I have to ask you a question. How many of the ladies here > sleep naked? (screams and applause) Well this next song is dedicated to > all the ladies that sleep naked. Especially those that would like to > someday sleep naked with me." *grin* Dang, that Moby. He's quite the tease and quite the flirt. Definitely knows just what to say and do to drive us wild. :) I'm sure others agree? > All in all, an absolutely breathtaking, unforgettable show. If I didn't > have a friend coming into town tomorrow I'd hop in a car and go see the > Dallas show. If you guys haven't already bought tickets for upcoming > shows...sell blood, sell your organs, sell your children, quit your > jobs...whatever you have to do...go see him! You will not regret it! Yeah yeah yeah....I know. If only I could have made it to Vancouver!!! Argggghhhh! :( My friends still have to hear me bitch about that every now and again. I really wish he woulda played the rkcndy again instead of icky endfest. Oh well....he'll be back. And I'll definitely be there this time. sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html _____________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e _________________________________fuck logic fuck logic ___________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t ______________________________and sweet intuition, honey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Misc....Moby plays (played) a Carvin? Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:28:43 -0700 > > >Ack. Okay...does anyone out there have any bootleg videos of any of > >Moby's live shows? Since I didn't get to see him perform this song live > >and in person (which woulda been soooo amazing) I can settle for seeing a > >video of him performing it. Anyone? :) Yeah, speaking of videos, I've only seen 'Revolver'. And I've only seen that once. I wish I had taped it. The interview he did on M2 was really good (before the vid). He was so funny and the girl interviewing him was so vapid. *sigh* > > >Yikes. What was getting thrown at him? > >I never get that...why do people throw things at concerts? I was at a > >Beck concert once and someone threw up a shoe and it hit him right smack > >on the hand when he was playing a slow quiet acoustic song. Very > >irritating. That is annoying. I've gone to a lot of shows where ppl have those lazer-y looking pens that are kinda reminicent of "Termantor" when he has that gun with the red lazer. That freaks out a lot of band ppls. I would be scared too thought thinking that some really pissed off fan was out for my blood. What's up w/ that? > > > Before Honey "I have to ask you a question. How many of the ladies here > > sleep naked? (screams and applause) Well this next song is dedicated to > > all the ladies that sleep naked. Especially those that would like to > > someday sleep naked with me." > > I can's speak for anyone else but I say, damn I do and yes, I would! *giggle* > Sadly for me though, I would probably dround MOBY in my aggressive snuggling. > He's such a cute wee boy. *sigh* Okay, woo, public out pour of naked snugglin' > desires! Nothin' to see here! NOPE! :-P > > > > All in all, an absolutely breathtaking, unforgettable show. If I didn't > > have a friend coming into town tomorrow I'd hop in a car and go see the > > Dallas show. If you guys haven't already bought tickets for upcoming > > shows...sell blood, sell your organs, sell your children, quit your > > jobs...whatever you have to do...go see him! You will not regret it! > > Wow, don't I wish I could. If we could all just become "dead moby heads" and travel like a technoy band of transients, selling multi colored wares and trinkets to the crowds in the parking lots, living day to day while MOBY is touring...wow, what a life that would be. We could be one big happy MOBY lovin' family, and maybe we could form our own religion somehow working techno and MOBY in there. Yeah, techno makes ppl happy (come on get happy!)(I think? but sad too sometimes...) and isn't that what life is about? Yeah, screw jobs and responsibility! Let's buy VW Bus' and travel the world and dancing?! We could be a techno Partridge Family and MOBY could be David and I'd want to be the Susan Dey character just because she was tall, dorky and devoid of talent (much like myself! :-) Yeah! Yeah Baby! Uh, okay....Nothin' to see her folks...nothin' to see! --kimby PS... More Misc....my bf is really into guitars and he's been in this weird Carvin mood. He was telling me that on the carvin web site they have a small pic of MOBY playing a Carvin. I was like "woa, really?" Kinda cool. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: (mobility) toronto show 100% sold out Date: 21 Aug 1999 12:11:55 -0700 i just heard on the radio that the toronto moby show is 100% sold out. so.... anyone who hasn't bought their tickets yet, well... you're out of luck. then again, the warehouse is one of the worst places for sound quality in all of toronto so you wouldnt be missing much. peace. -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) internet tonight Date: 21 Aug 1999 13:09:58 EDT the internet tonight moby interview is up at : http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/internettonight/musiconline/story/0,4602,2316043,00.html its pretty good. moby discribes himself as a 'balding guy with bad eyes' and he drops moby.org . -jason n . p . lamb . fear of fours www.mp3.com/wilt "We know that the universe is infinite, expanding and strangely complete, that it lacks nothing we need, but in spite of that knowledge, the tragic paradigm of human life is lack, loss, finality, a primitive doomsaying that has not been repealed by technology or medical science". -Jeanette Winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason miklian" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at Let It Be in Minneapolis Date: 21 Aug 1999 11:02:54 PDT The good people at Let It Be said get there at around 7 or before if you want to make sure you see him. The last time Moby was there he made sure that everyone left happy, but there will probably be a lot more there this time (myself included). The best part is that it's totally 100% free. Let it Be rocks, Moby rocks, everything about this rocks. j >From: flux@scc.net >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) Moby at Let It Be in Minneapolis >Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 05:25:45 -0500 > > >* Moby will appear on the morning show in Minneapolis August 23rd at >approx. > > 8:00 AM. > >Damn it. Guess I'm going to have to get up early on Monday and tape it. >I'm not a morning person. > > >He will also appear at Let It Be Records for an autograph session > > at 8:00 PM the same day. > >Yeah. I walked over tonight to Let It Be and there were Moby and Play >stickers and signs all over their windows. The announcement was posted >that >he will be there at 8 p.m. That's kind of weird being that the doors open >at 8 at first avenue. I wonder how long Moby will be there. I was >wondering why they were openeing the doors at 8 and the tickets said the >concert was starting at 9:30. > >Guess I'll have to make a stop at Let It Be before the concert. I wanted >to >check out Boom Boom but I think I'd rather talk to Moby. I'm finally going >to be able to see him. > >Monday is going to ROCK! > >Tim > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at first ave monday the 23rd Date: 21 Aug 1999 14:02:28 -0400 Hi, Jason!! A question: Do you, Moby, have perfect pitch?? Thanks!! Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: (mobility) Run On video Date: 21 Aug 1999 14:18:20 -0400 It might be common knowledge, but "Run On" video is at musicvideos.com. actually the sound's pretty good, which means i'm going to have to dig out Play now, and hear the rest. cheers b ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) hello anyone going to the scala gig in september Date: 21 Aug 1999 21:33:49 +0100 if u are going to the scala gig in September would u like to meet up with me? mail me and let me know thankyou Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) A good question... Date: 21 Aug 1999 14:50:39 -0700 Hi there all, I don't remember who but someone said they were doing an interview w/MOBY and that they wanted questions. Well, how about... "What was your most spiritual/musical experience...? What show stands out as the most memorable and emotional you've done. Is performing a spiritual event for you?" There, I'd like to know. :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SriDevi9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) hello anyone going to the scala gig in september Date: 21 Aug 1999 22:50:09 EDT >if u are going to the scala gig in September would u like to meet up with > >me? my best friend is moving to england in early september...moby is his favorite band..moby is playing sept 21 and 22..then once again in october..he will probably be there for at least one of them if not more so maybe you guys can meet up... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) Moby.org nominated Date: 21 Aug 1999 21:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Hey, did you guys know that Moby.org was nominated for the "best electronic fansite" in the Artist Direct Online Music Awards? The only reason I found out was because I was going to vote for the Ultimate Intimate in the "best alternative fansite" for Bjork. Has someone mentioned this before and I just didn't notice? Anyway...you can go vote for Moby.org (or any others that you feel are deserving) at http://vote.artistdirect.com/adoma/ Be warned; some of the categories are VERY lame. Like "favourite pop artist" the choices are 5ive, 98 degrees, Backstreet Boys, Boyzone, and 'N Sync. And for the "favourite female artist" the choices are Cher, Celine Dion, Madonna, Britney Spears and Shania Twain. Geesh... sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html _____________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e _________________________________fuck logic fuck logic ___________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t ______________________________and sweet intuition, honey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: (mobility) LIve now in Dallas Date: 22 Aug 1999 00:14:03 -0400 http://www.broadcast.com/radio/Alternative/KDGE/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) A good question... Date: 22 Aug 1999 01:41:27 EDT here are some things im curious about: "moby, what do you think about the institution of matrimony? what do you think about gay people getting married? what do you think about the state of america today? exactly what did you find attractive about edward furlong? has there ever been other such times in your life? what do you think about sexuality in modern civilization?" just curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) used by the bbc Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:45:41 +0100 has anyone else noticed that the BBC use a lot of moby to advertise programmes programmes I remember are grange hill - new dawn fades, dark x-files - down slow plus I have heard the James bond theme, honey, and Sunday all on the BBC its a pity that radio 1 does not play as much moby that BBC 1 & 2 use to promote upcoming TV series ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) A good question... Date: 22 Aug 1999 10:46:45 -0700 > > exactly what did you find attractive about edward furlong? has > >there ever been other such times in your life? what do you think about > >sexuality in modern civilization?" > > Wait a sec, what did I miss? Man! I do not read enough mags or watch enough > tv! Eddie Furlong? Huh, I hate to say it but that young man looks like teen > stardom took it's toll on him. He looks like a gothic Johnny Depp (wait?). Also, another question for MOBY: Top five reasons for becoming a Vegan. Top five reasons for why being a Vegan is cool. And the burning question: Top five things a (new) Vegan should know. I was just curious. --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mobyee@aol.com Subject: (mobility) video music awards...moby? Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:25:47 EDT for some reason i was watching mtv this morning and during the comerical for the V.M.A. they said moby, does anyone know what he will be doing like performing or presenting an award? ~courtney~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) hello anyone going to the scala gig in september Date: 22 Aug 1999 21:48:26 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) That best friend isn't you Jeff, is it? Mushroom alert... TMB On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:50:09 EDT SriDevi9@aol.com wrote: > > > >if u are going to the scala gig in September would u like to meet up with > > > >me? > > > my best friend is moving to england in early september...moby is his favorite > band..moby is playing sept 21 and 22..then once again in october..he will > probably be there for at least one of them if not more so maybe you guys can > meet up... > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beacwork@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Ft Myers FL Concert Date: 22 Aug 1999 17:07:39 EDT Hi all, I live on Ft Myers Beach, FL and I'm going to the Sept 14th concert here. Is anyone else going. Also I'll trade waverunner or parasail rides for a backstage pass. Blake ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) video music awards...moby? Date: 22 Aug 1999 15:57:39 -0600 i think someone already said Moby is oging to be MTV's in house DJ for the MVA.. anyone confirm this for me? P.L.U.R. -dale- We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pakrat Subject: Re: (mobility) video music awards...moby? Date: 22 Aug 1999 23:01:58 -0400 mobility@lists.xmission.com wrote: > for some reason i was watching mtv this morning and during the comerical for > the V.M.A. they said moby, does anyone know what he will be doing like > performing or presenting an award? > ~courtney~ well he is on tour ...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MALCOM117@aol.com Subject: (mobility) No Moby: But anyone going to be in Chicago, IL on Tues, August 24th Date: 23 Aug 1999 02:14:03 EDT So I don't post that much and this might not be Moby related but if anyone lives or will be visiting Chicago, IL on Tuesday, August 24th...my friend and I will be DJing at EXIT..1315 W. North...from 10pm to 4am....no cover...21+ to enter.....including rock, punk, gothic, industrial, funk, new wave, hip-hop...etc etc etc...and just about everything in-between including of course some moby...so hope to see you all that can make it out...and let me know if your from the list just to say hello....thx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason miklian" Subject: Re: (mobility) video music awards...moby? Date: 23 Aug 1999 06:52:30 PDT yes yes yes! MTV announced it a little while back--Moby will be the DJ for the music awards...word on the street is that he was the second choice (Fatboy Slim was #1, but he decided to get married instead) j >From: "dale" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: (mobility) video music awards...moby? >Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:57:39 -0600 > >i think someone already said Moby is oging to be MTV's in house DJ for the >MVA.. anyone confirm this for me? >P.L.U.R. >-dale- > >We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... >Sittin on them bags of seeds. > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby at a festival in Kansas City USA Date: 23 Aug 1999 19:39:07 +0300 At 11:43 21.8.1999 +0000, you wrote: >Hey. Goodmorning. AFOS United Kingdom calling. >I've been to your site. Top stuff. > >Got something for you; > >Moby will be playing at the Kansas City Spirit Festival September 3rd. >Go to : http://www.spiritfest.org/rock.html > in case if somebody is interested? -Samu Heinonen- -samuhei@dlc.fi- http://www.saunalahti.fi/~samuhei/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: (mobility) ***IMPORTANT***(not really) Date: 23 Aug 1999 13:20:41 EDT hey mobyheads, i was just wondering if any one is going to go this thursday to the hatchshell, for free. from WBCN. i'm going to go. but i was just wondering if anyone else is from around here is going. laterz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Top 10 Reasons 4 Moby Date: 23 Aug 1999 10:51:07 PDT 10. He's cool in an Intellectual kind of way. 9. He has strong beliefs and seems to stick by them. 8. He's eclectic. 7. He doesn't back down from something he wants to do (Animal Rights) 6. Play 5. He's environmentalist. 4. Go 3. the essays 2. He's Christian 1. Everything is Wrong _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) couple of finds... Date: 23 Aug 1999 10:51:56 PDT In case you're interested, email the below address and make a trade or purchase offer. I saw these advertised on a vinyl trading bbs. I've spoken w/ this person before, but never traded. I recommend asking for references, but I've done lots of buying and trading on these board and never had trouble. Opus III - I Talk To The Wind 12" (4 Moby remixes plus original) Moby - Drop A Beat 12" They've also got some cool Underworld, Josh Wink (Size 9), Sven Vath (w/ Underworld remixes), and more. Ask for a list. maggi101@pacbell.net -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) no more porn please and Catholic stuff Date: 23 Aug 1999 10:59:33 PDT Liberalism has naught to do with it, methinks. He does seem to be one of the few real Christians in the spotlight (or barely in it :) ) Catholic means universal, I think what you're thinking of is ROMAN Catholic.....But I don't think Moby "belongs" to any one Church, only the Church in the universal sense, right? NOW PLAYING: Orb's "Blue Room" >From: JRDYM77@aol.com >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) no more porn please and Catholic stuff >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:00:56 EDT > >i believe moby calls himself a Christian--a follower of Christ. >he may seem liberal and un-christian in his beliefs and words, but as far >as >im concerned, he is one of the few real christians out there. its all so >much >more pure than what is more popular--accusings, judgings, forcing beliefs, >attacking, indirectly killing and maiming, etc > >moby is just so cool >just like sinead :) > >(why is it a lot of bald people are so cool?) ;) > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Run Lola Run Date: 23 Aug 1999 11:24:20 PDT I thought Sliding Doors sucked kind of.... It started off cleverly and turned into drivel. Run Lola Run's prologue was funny (and as you said, very German), but I thought the Techno was irritatingly all the SAME. They should have put in some dub or ambient!!!:) OR MOBY >From: "Stegenga, Scott" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: "'mobility@lists.xmission.com'" >Subject: (mobility) Run Lola Run >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:50 -0500 > >Saw this excellent piece of celluloid last night. 90 minutes of wild film. > >In German, Its titled 'Lola rennt'. Anyone know German who can loosely >translate? > >Like another film I've seen, 'Sliding Doors' this film takes the concept of >'what if she did this...' to a cool level. It showcases 3 'episodes' of a >girl named Lola who must save her boyfriend, Manni, from getting killed by >his mafia boss. He has lost 100,000 Deutche Marks and needs to get that >amount in 20 minutes or his boss will suspect he's stealing from him. The >eposides highlight her running to her father, a bank president, and maybe >asking him for the money, then running to Manni just before he robs a >supermarket at noon. There are alot of running shots. Alot. > >It starts with this phone call to Lola, and the rest of the scenes involver >her running to various choices and the outcome for each trek ends >differently, although she encounters the same people, and as she encounters >a certsin person, the film would then pause to show what happens to that >person later on in their life, as if running into Lola has somehow made a >point for a certain direction in their life wether being mugged later on, >married, or even involved in S&M. Each 'rehash' of events starts over with >the shot of a phine receiver coming down on its base thus starting the >heavy >techno beats again. > >The prologue is very existential and, how else, German. With this artsy >monologue about life's questions and answers all melding onto one or >something, but then in kicks this heavy techno beat and it never stops. > >If techno were even made into a film, this would be its incarnation. This >film and 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' are my two favorites this >year. > >The website which has some cool clips is at >http://www.spe.sony.com/classics/runlolarun/ > >The soundtrack is very very cool. >--------------------------------------------- >Scott Stegenga - Internet Engineer >Tunes.com >....same company, more stuff... >312-642-7560 x109 >http://www.tunes.com >http://www.rollingstone.com >http://www.thesource.com >http://www.downbeatjazz.com >and many more to come... > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stegenga, Scott" Subject: RE: (mobility) Run Lola Run Date: 23 Aug 1999 13:29:43 -0500 The pulsing techno was perfect for the film? Its premise was suspense and intrigue, not chill out. Maybe the dub would have worked, but having the running beat only amplified the running and makes you get more into the film. > -----Original Message----- > From: jj fish [mailto:corrugatedfunk@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 1:24 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Run Lola Run > > > I thought Sliding Doors sucked kind of.... > > It started off cleverly and turned into drivel. > > Run Lola Run's prologue was funny (and as you said, very > German), but I > thought the Techno was irritatingly all the SAME. They > should have put in > some dub or ambient!!!:) > > OR MOBY > > > >From: "Stegenga, Scott" > >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > >To: "'mobility@lists.xmission.com'" > >Subject: (mobility) Run Lola Run > >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:50 -0500 > > > >Saw this excellent piece of celluloid last night. 90 minutes > of wild film. > > > >In German, Its titled 'Lola rennt'. Anyone know German who > can loosely > >translate? > > > >Like another film I've seen, 'Sliding Doors' this film takes > the concept of > >'what if she did this...' to a cool level. It showcases 3 > 'episodes' of a > >girl named Lola who must save her boyfriend, Manni, from > getting killed by > >his mafia boss. He has lost 100,000 Deutche Marks and needs > to get that > >amount in 20 minutes or his boss will suspect he's stealing > from him. The > >eposides highlight her running to her father, a bank > president, and maybe > >asking him for the money, then running to Manni just before he robs a > >supermarket at noon. There are alot of running shots. Alot. > > > >It starts with this phone call to Lola, and the rest of the > scenes involver > >her running to various choices and the outcome for each trek ends > >differently, although she encounters the same people, and as > she encounters > >a certsin person, the film would then pause to show what > happens to that > >person later on in their life, as if running into Lola has > somehow made a > >point for a certain direction in their life wether being > mugged later on, > >married, or even involved in S&M. Each 'rehash' of events > starts over with > >the shot of a phine receiver coming down on its base thus > starting the > >heavy > >techno beats again. > > > >The prologue is very existential and, how else, German. With > this artsy > >monologue about life's questions and answers all melding onto one or > >something, but then in kicks this heavy techno beat and it > never stops. > > > >If techno were even made into a film, this would be its > incarnation. This > >film and 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' are my two > favorites this > >year. > > > >The website which has some cool clips is at > >http://www.spe.sony.com/classics/runlolarun/ > > > >The soundtrack is very very cool. > >--------------------------------------------- > >Scott Stegenga - Internet Engineer > >Tunes.com > >....same company, more stuff... > >312-642-7560 x109 > >http://www.tunes.com > >http://www.rollingstone.com > >http://www.thesource.com > >http://www.downbeatjazz.com > >and many more to come... > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) Moby interview this morning Date: 23 Aug 1999 13:48:45 -0500 There was an interview with Moby on a local radio station this morning. The interview overall was a good one and the interviewer seemed to know what he was talking about. A few interesting things came up that I didn't know about. Seems Moby went to WWF SummerSlam last night (Sunday) and saw Gov. Ventura referee the main event. Moby a fan of pro wrestling? He also said that he is going to be in a CK jeans ad. I can't wait to see this. He said that he is going to donate all the money and clothes he gets from doing the ad and donate them to charity. Moby also gave his thoughts on Woodstock and they talked a little about Play and the live show. There were periodic breaks in which the station played various songs from Play including Bodyrock, Porcelain, and others. (my memory is a little foggy. it was at 8 in the morning.) 6 hours until I meet Moby! Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: RE: (mobility) Song Played At Concert's Beginning? Date: 23 Aug 1999 12:02:33 PDT I actually like that track the most out of Play. It's an African Children's Choir or something that's been filtered a LOT. >From: "Chris Hand" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: RE: (mobility) Song Played At Concert's Beginning? >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:16:54 -0700 > >THat is "My Weakness"...the last track off Play > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com >[mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kevin J. Guhl > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 8:29 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Song Played At Concert's Beginning? > > > Greetings, > > A friend of mine is an adamant follower of Moby and recently I >accompanied >him to the Philadelphia TLA concert on July 28th. Although I'm only >familiar >with a few of Moby's songs, I quite enjoyed the show. > > However, I was left with a burning question: > > As the show began and before the band came out on stage, the fog machine >went into action and a recorded song began playing over the speakers. It >was >ambient and featured a vocal chorus of children. I thought it was wonderful >and wanted to procure a copy of it. > > My friend said it was "Hymn," but I bought Everything Was Wrong and this >was not the song (similar, but not the one). I enjoy the album, but still >want to get that song. Can anyone help me out with knowledge of what this >track was and where to find it? > > Thank you kindly, > > Kevin _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) resonance mag article Date: 23 Aug 1999 12:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Here's that lil' article I was talking about earlier. Enjoy! MOBYMOUTHSOFF Kuri Kondrak eggs him on in our new section where artists critique music from the hip. Soft-spoken yet resilient, Richard Hall, a.k.a. Moby, has taken innumerable beatings from the press for his "I'll do what I want" approach to music. He changes up styles like most smokers go through Bic Lighters: one minute it's progressive house, the next it's D.C. hardore. Moby has seen and done it all. These days he's applauding the sort of commercial hip-hop your little sister likes. He calls Jay-Z's "Hard Knock Life" "cheesy on the surface, but substantial." Go figure. Now with Play, Moby hits on swampy delta blues loops and portly hip-hop beats large enough to make Fatboy Slim yell, "You sank my battleship!" Let's see what he has to say about the rest of the competition. Apparently, Moby has some issues with "white" music. Da Grassroots "Revival" (Conception) Moby: Too suburban, too white. Sounded like fratboy hip-hop. It seemed like lowest common demoninator hip-hop. Not the most challenging or brightest - it wasn't terrible, but it was old-school in a way that I didn't like. The verses were good but when they got to the chorus it just seemed silly. Antidote "God is Good" (N*Soul) A nice atmospheric, almost disco electro track. But I have an innate prejudice against spoken-word vocal samples ("God is Good"). Like those cliche newscaster vocal samples that were popular with industrial bands like Ministry. There are cliches that follow me around, too. For example, I love Christ and the teachings of Christ but I've never been - not since a long time ago - a practicing Christian. Betty Blowtorch "Shut Up and Fuck" (Foil) I was all ready to hate that and then I heard that chorus and it made me smile. For a second I thought it was typical L7, like fat-girl, Stooges-influenced alternative rock, but the chorus is kind of cute: "Shut up and fuck." I think that's nice. The track is not particularly inspired but the chorus made me laugh. It's just a straightforward expression of a pretty nice sentiment. Bogdon Raczynski Untitled (Rephlex) Interesting. Half of me really hates it but there are elements in it that are really wonderful. Like the children's toy piano and the music is really sweet. I have a problem with music when it's self-consciously weird. When it's musicians congratulating themselves on how esoteric they can be, it kind of turns me off. That trend of white guys sitting in their bedrooms making intentionally obscure or goofy music, I just find it distasteful. Like the Insane Clown Posse or whatever, there's enough music in the world, why do they have to add crap to it? Abdoulaye Diabate "Fronto (Llorca remix) (Frikyiwa) I would never buy it. If it was on the radio I might change the channel or I might not. There was a time in 1986 when I was buying a lot of African music and this reminds me of it. There were a lot of great records made back then, obviously Africa is a huge continent and a lot of music comes out of it, but a lot of mediocre music comes out of it too. I would put this in the second category. The production was a little too slick and innocuous. I've heard stuff like that 100 times before so it's hard to get excited about it. Atari Teenage Riot "By Any Means Necessary" (DHR) In general, DHR stuff makes me laugh. It sounds exacly the same but it serves its purpose. It's funny; one of Atari Teenage Riot's first shows was warming up for me in Germany in 1993. Back then they *were* teenagers, so the name made sense and they were so much fun. There was nothing calculated about it, but now the whole DHR thing is very stylistic and calculated. I like Alec (Empire) and ATR but they are kind of a one-trick pony. Todd Terry "Yo" (Astralwerks) When it first started and it was a hip-hop track, I didn't like it; but when it morphed into the drum & bass track it turned quite nice. I think it's funny how drum & bass, Miami bass and electro all have the same kick drum pattern. Obviously they listened to the first Roni Size album a couple of times. He (Todd Terry) is the master of house drum programming. In my opinion "A Day in the Life" and "Back to the Beat," are the best house drum programming. Kool Keith "Master of the Game" (Columbia) The chorus is one of those that if I hear it three or four times, I know I'll like it. I'll be at home listening to Hot '97 and I'll hear that and get excited when I hear it. I don't mean to be offensive but the MC, the rap on this track, is kind of weak. I love the Ultramagnetic MCs and I know he's quite celebrated in the world of electronic music but I don't think he's done anything good since the Ultramagnetic MCs. It's just not good hip-hop; it's easy hip-hop for white guys to like. This might be an awful thing to say, but MCs don't age well. Art of Noise "Born on a Sunday" (ZTT) This is ad agency drum & bass. I can almost see the well-filmed car driving through the Alps and the businessman rolling up the window. Everyone has made drum & bass records. It's sort of a prerequisite now - if you're a British electronic musician, you have to. I've even made a couple drum & bass B-sides. The ironic thing is that now all these people are making drum & bass and in England no one cares about it except for the hardcore drum & bass heads. It's not trendy anymore. Computer Rockers "Galaxy Defenders" (Breakin') Even though it was very quirky, it was charming. The perfect situation for it would be six in the morning in Helsinki and you've been up for two days and you're in a basement with a bunch of people you've never met before and you've no idea who they are. You've been crazy running around and suddently you have this moment where you're standing by yourself and you hear this song and it seems like the perfrect song for the situatioin. It almost sounded like drug music for a drug that hasn't been invented yet. Whew...there ya go. Any typos were mine. My fingers need a rest now. :) sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html _____________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e _________________________________fuck logic fuck logic ___________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t ______________________________and sweet intuition, honey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) Moby live in Boston Date: 23 Aug 1999 10:41:00 -0400 No prob. I don't think I can go :-( I have night-class Tues. & Thurs. evenings. I would just miss the class this Thursday but we just started a new module that is VERY confusing (anyone know about Oracle Administration & the Oracle Instance/physical/logical??). So basically I'm screwed. I can't even go see my favorite artist perform for FREE. Poor me. My conscience outweighs my desire to see Moby. Who would've thought. - Jayson G. Magnus -----Original Message----- Also, Thank you Jayson! I am going to do everything to get there to see Moby on Thursday! I guess I will have to skip Orientation but my Mom will be there anyway, so she can go by herself. I don't need it... Anyway, Thanks dude! Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) A good question... Date: 23 Aug 1999 12:31:16 PDT Only good thing about Furlong was he was in Terminator 2 :) >From: kimbalina >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) A good question... >Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:46:45 -0700 > > > > > > > exactly what did you find attractive about edward furlong? has > > >there ever been other such times in your life? what do you think about > > >sexuality in modern civilization?" > > > > Wait a sec, what did I miss? Man! I do not read enough mags or watch >enough > > tv! Eddie Furlong? Huh, I hate to say it but that young man looks like >teen > > stardom took it's toll on him. He looks like a gothic Johnny Depp >(wait?). > >Also, another question for MOBY: >Top five reasons for becoming a Vegan. Top five reasons for why being a >Vegan is >cool. And the burning question: Top five things a (new) Vegan should know. > >I was just curious. > >--kimby > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: Re: (mobility) hello anyone going to the scala gig in september Date: 23 Aug 1999 15:27:56 -0400 Hi, Tim!! Nope!! It wasn't me!! But i did get confirmation from my bosses this morning - i should probably have the work permit in about 4-5 weeks. i have a lot to tell you - will email you privately!! j ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: RE: (mobility) Run Lola Run Date: 23 Aug 1999 12:38:21 PDT I think ambient really would have worked in certain parts--created a deeper poignance or somesuch. Really I do. >From: "Stegenga, Scott" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: "'mobility@lists.xmission.com'" >Subject: RE: (mobility) Run Lola Run >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:29:43 -0500 > >The pulsing techno was perfect for the film? Its premise was suspense and >intrigue, not chill out. Maybe the dub would have worked, but having the >running beat only amplified the running and makes you get more into the >film. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jj fish [mailto:corrugatedfunk@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 1:24 PM > > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: (mobility) Run Lola Run > > > > > > I thought Sliding Doors sucked kind of.... > > > > It started off cleverly and turned into drivel. > > > > Run Lola Run's prologue was funny (and as you said, very > > German), but I > > thought the Techno was irritatingly all the SAME. They > > should have put in > > some dub or ambient!!!:) > > > > OR MOBY > > > > > > >From: "Stegenga, Scott" > > >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > > >To: "'mobility@lists.xmission.com'" > > >Subject: (mobility) Run Lola Run > > >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:50 -0500 > > > > > >Saw this excellent piece of celluloid last night. 90 minutes > > of wild film. > > > > > >In German, Its titled 'Lola rennt'. Anyone know German who > > can loosely > > >translate? > > > > > >Like another film I've seen, 'Sliding Doors' this film takes > > the concept of > > >'what if she did this...' to a cool level. It showcases 3 > > 'episodes' of a > > >girl named Lola who must save her boyfriend, Manni, from > > getting killed by > > >his mafia boss. He has lost 100,000 Deutche Marks and needs > > to get that > > >amount in 20 minutes or his boss will suspect he's stealing > > from him. The > > >eposides highlight her running to her father, a bank > > president, and maybe > > >asking him for the money, then running to Manni just before he robs a > > >supermarket at noon. There are alot of running shots. Alot. > > > > > >It starts with this phone call to Lola, and the rest of the > > scenes involver > > >her running to various choices and the outcome for each trek ends > > >differently, although she encounters the same people, and as > > she encounters > > >a certsin person, the film would then pause to show what > > happens to that > > >person later on in their life, as if running into Lola has > > somehow made a > > >point for a certain direction in their life wether being > > mugged later on, > > >married, or even involved in S&M. Each 'rehash' of events > > starts over with > > >the shot of a phine receiver coming down on its base thus > > starting the > > >heavy > > >techno beats again. > > > > > >The prologue is very existential and, how else, German. With > > this artsy > > >monologue about life's questions and answers all melding onto one or > > >something, but then in kicks this heavy techno beat and it > > never stops. > > > > > >If techno were even made into a film, this would be its > > incarnation. This > > >film and 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels' are my two > > favorites this > > >year. > > > > > >The website which has some cool clips is at > > >http://www.spe.sony.com/classics/runlolarun/ > > > > > >The soundtrack is very very cool. > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Scott Stegenga - Internet Engineer > > >Tunes.com > > >....same company, more stuff... > > >312-642-7560 x109 > > >http://www.tunes.com > > >http://www.rollingstone.com > > >http://www.thesource.com > > >http://www.downbeatjazz.com > > >and many more to come... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > http://www.mp3.com/CorrugatedFunk "I've never heard any music like this in my life, and if I have, I don't know where I've heard it." -The Orb ambient, techno, dub, classical, minimalist, satire, world Defending the Universe from the Threat of the Dream Eaters _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) video music awards...moby? Date: 23 Aug 1999 14:55:06 -0700 > > >word on the street is that he was the second choice > >(Fatboy Slim was #1, but he decided to get married instead) I dunno. What's up w/ this whole Fatboy Slim thing. I mean, I thought he was okay but then I heard him do an interview (and it's not like I try to let the musicians personalities sway my thoughts on the music but...) and I just thought he seemed bitchy and I don't think he sounds that great. I haven't heard a lot of his stuff but I think that MOBY is better anyway. Call me a small minded biased person but that's just what I think. He erks me. :-) I'm glad MOBY is getting the op though. More power to 'em I think. Does anyone think that this will boost MOBY's success and make him more mainstream? I would think that but judging the reactions I get from ppl when I talk about MOBY, I kind of doubt it. Whenever I say something about him to ppl, they react w/ "who the hell is that? I've never heard of them..." *sigh* --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) internet tonight Date: 23 Aug 1999 14:58:20 -0700 > the internet tonight moby interview is up at : > > http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/internettonight/musiconline/story/0,4602,2316043,00.html > > its pretty good. moby discribes himself as a 'balding guy with bad eyes' and > he drops moby.org . I thought the part where he mentions MOBY.org was cute. Darn, MOBY is so cute. :-) All and all I think it was a good interview. But the thing that gets me about interviews is that mostly interviewers seem annoying, full of themselves and incompetent. But I'm just hard to please I guess. :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) video music awards...moby? Date: 23 Aug 1999 18:18:52 EDT hey kim, i agree with you, his sucsess has definatly made him more mainstream. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 23 Aug 1999 18:21:44 -0500 Hi Everybody, Sorry it took me so long to do this... but i'm finally getting around to writing about the dallas show. It was my first show and i've waited about 3 & 1/2 years for it. Honestly... i would have waited 30 years. It was incredible. The best concert i've ever been to, and i've been to some good ones. Everything that could go right for me at a show.... went right :) First off Brad Caviness lives about an hour from me. I met him in my hometown then we drove north to pick up some friends. We get to a friends house and the two other guys going with me have had to cancel out. One is sick and the other has gotten a surprise visit from his girlfriend....... Get this .. we had TWO FREE TICKETS to give away.... sadly it took us several hours to get rid of them. I wish i had had some access to email and i could have posted it here... but oh well... I ended up giving them to a couple of other moby fans that we found friday night around 1 am. Instead of taking josh and karl, we ended up taking Celia and Camille (Both of whom were much cuter than josh and karl :) I didn't sleep that night at all. Excitement coupled with a very lumpy lazy boy make for a bad nights sleep. Anyway, i got up around 6 am and we left town about 8. Got to dallas at 2 and headed straight for the Lizard Lounge. When we got there they were still assembling the stage. The concert was outdoors in the parking lot of the club. It was hot as hell! We soon left and got some lunch then shopped through the "Deep Ellum" district of Dallas. It was a VERY cool place and we met a man who custom makes hats for TLC, Erykah Badu, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Dennis Rodman to just name a few. Around 5 pm we headed back to the Club and looked around for Moby. We knocked on the bus doors but they said he wasn't there (yeah right...) We watched the roadies and some of his band do a sound check and decided to sit down next to the entrance of the parking lot.... The club staff came over and set up a velvet rope right in front of us so we ended up being first in line :) We're talking away and suddenly i notice a little guy in the corner of my eyes walking away from the stage. My head swings over towards him at light speed and sure enough... its the man!!! We yelled "MOBY" and waved at him and he walked over to talk to us! Here's where my respect for the man quadrupled. We ask him how he's doing and he says that he's fine and just about to head to the bus for a preshow nap. We ask if he would mind signing a few things first. I pulled about 7 CD liner notes out of my pocket and say, "hmmmm which one do i want signed?" He looks at me and says, "You can just give them to me, i'll sign them all." I was shocked and elated :) He signed all of them and one actual CD. Brad had brought a CDR copy of his favorite moby songs and asked moby to sign the blank cdr. Moby looked at it rather uncertainly and then brad explained what it was. Moby smiled and said "cool" I then found the cover for End of Everything and asked him if he would mind signing one more since that was my favorite. He agreed saying it was his favorite one also. I asked him about future releases of real ambient stuff. He didn't mention any new work, but he said they were trying to re release End of Everything on V2 records. If any of you have ever heard of a song by moby and another guy (i can't remember his name) anyway.. the song is called Shaum Gummi (I think thats the spelling) Its a wonderful song which is all about marshmallows. Its very funny. Brad asked him why he had never released it and he said that they had just finished making a video for it. He also said that they were in contact with the people working on Mike Meyers new movie which is based on the old Sprockets skit on SNL. (NOW IS TIME ON SPROCKETS WHERE WE DANCE!!!!! TOUCH MY MONKEY!!!!) He also said they were thinking about releasing a video compilation (YEAH!!!!!!!) We got our pictures taken with him and then let the people behind us take some pictures with him, and he went about his way. Being first in line, we got front row center :) The boom boom satellites were great! Funky Techno, i loved it. The crowd didn't react much to it though. The set change was obnoxiously long. However we soon learned why. They were broadcasting the whole thing on Dallas radio and had to wait till a certain air time. During the set change we met a nice man taking pics with a digital camera. He said he worked for a promotional company that worked for V2. He also told us that he was best friends with Damian (do you know who this guy is damian?) The most interesting thing he told us was that V2 was thinking about releasing a live album which will be culled from the outdoor sets. One was in california, one was dallas and one might be in St. Louis (which i'm going too!) I think its rather strange to release a live album of a show thats mostly on DAT but hey.... thats just me. I'll buy it, thats for sure :) The show had the exact same set as the austin one My Weakness (played almost 2 or 3 minutes before the band came on) Find My Baby Machete Porcelain James Bond Theme Go Next Is The E Everloving Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad Perfect Ah Ah Bring Back My Happiness Natural Blues Bodyrock Honey Feeling So Real 1000 I ended up getting a set list after the show and i think you might be interested in a few things. (at least the die hard fans) On machete he has "mach 2" and for feeling so real its "feel - reel" My Weakness and 1000 aren't even mentioned on the set list. As for the actual performance.... incredible. When My Weakness came on, tears started to well up in my eyes. It was so beautiful. Bond as usual had the added lyrics. Someone mentioned something about this before which i can't remember now, but i swear it sounded like he was singing the lyrics to a vanilla ice song. (of course it was pretty distorted) The people went insane on Go and Next Is The E. I was really excited that the fans new these songs. I was afraid that the audience would be just a bunch of people who had only heard Play. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad was my favorite of the evening... and most certainly not my favorite on the album. I've always thought it to be a depressing song. But live... oh no... It took on a whole new life. It was incredibly uplifting and joyous. at the very end.... I knew what was coming... but i was still in disbelief. I NEVER expected it to be that powerful. He seems such a quiet, mild-mannered guy in person.... But he was a brooding, focused animal on stage. It was unreal. The idea of a guy standing on a keyboard while a song plays, well, it sounds pretty silly honestly. However, my mouth was hanging open in amazement during the whole thing. Theres no way to convey the feelings that flooded the crowd during this part. You have to see it to believe it. (however, i did get a pretty cool picture of him on the keyboard!) When the show was over. I just stood there with my friends. Camille isn't the biggest moby fan but instantly she started saying "thank you thank you thank you" And if you've seen the show, you can emphathize with her. Afterwards he went behind the stage and rested for about 15 minutes. Then he moved over to the side of the stage and signed autographs for EVERYONE. He didn't leave till everyone had one. I was amazed! I have NEVER seen anything like that in all my life. He seemed really happy doing it too! He of course was tired... but he smiled the whol time! IF ANY OF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO CATCH THIS SHOW.... DO IT TRUST ME Thanks for reading the really long post. I hope all of you have the chance to experience this!!!! If any of you are going to the st. louis show, email me about meeting up. -----rob - Brad, it was great to meet you! I've gotten the pictures developed and i'll get them scanned pretty soon. Great one of all of us with moby, and another awesome one of him with the guitar. Also, let me know about the guestlist for the st. louis show. I saw an ad in the gazette today about $60 plane tickets from LR to STL ROUND TRIP!!!!! call southwest -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) blur remix on comp Date: 23 Aug 1999 16:54:44 -0700 (PDT) straight from astralwerks, blur remixed by moby is on the sdtk to "Splendor" on astralwerks i would send you it directly but it was a loooooooooong message so it was truncated and the nuze was at the end..... sorry if u all know this just got back from florida (not onl did my grampa die but my guinea pig did as well! waaaaaaaa!!!!!!!) I GOT YR TAPE KEES!!!!!!! bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 23 Aug 1999 19:11:21 -0500 Hmm. *I* was going to post a lengthy review of our trip to Dallas, but since I came home with a nifty cold along with some great autographs and memorabilia and a pair of neat new shirts (which I believe are still in the back of Rob's car fifty miles away!!), Rob beat me to it. So I'll spare everyone a lot of strenuous reading and simply say, "Yeah. What he said." I'm not sure if that guy really made hats for all those rock stars, but damn if he didn't have some cool shirts. I lost his card, or I'd be ordering one of his catalogs when they're ready. Moby is indeed as nice and gracious as everyone was ever made him out to be. i've rarely seen a performer so grateful for the admiration and adoration of his fans. He did sign my copy of "Jesus", though I didn't hear him call it "cool." (Though I wish I had!) And I'm having the caricature he drew on the back of my All Access Pass scanned for a wall paper on my computer. The other guy on "Schaumgummi" is Paul Yates, one of Moby's closest friends, an aspiring film maker (isn't he involved in some capacity with "Porno"?) and Moby's band mate in the Pork Boys, if I remember correctly. When he told me they had recently filmed a video for the song, and it was being considered for "Sprockets - the Movie", I nearly did a little dance right there on the street. Zounds, I love that tune. The guy from LA's name was Aaron. He said he was a member of this list, he's seen moby perform 150 times or more, and, if I remember correctly, he works for Interweb New Media, who I think were involved in some way in KDGE's simulcast of the show in Dallas and over the web. I'll be looking forward to those photos, Rob. But what I REALLY want is my "little idiot" shirt and the black vintage "cowboy" shirt I bought in Deep Ellum back. Seriously, when can I come pick those up? BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MAGNUS, JAYSON G" Subject: (mobility) Come One Baby 2CD Date: 23 Aug 1999 12:24:11 -0400 Finally received my order of the "Come On Baby" 2CD (CDMute200) Whooo-hooo! Cool case too! - jayson magnus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) boston show Date: 23 Aug 1999 20:59:32 EDT ack. i can't make it to the second boston show! i'm so upset becasue i loved the first one. anyways is anyone going? and parchance could anyone tape it??? its free so i don't think there should be that much of problem. just out of curiousity does moby usually allow taping? and does anyone have any recordings? riz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) boston show Date: 23 Aug 1999 22:06:22 EDT yah im going to the boston show but im not gonna tape it ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: (mobility) live tapes other stuff. Date: 23 Aug 1999 21:06:39 -0600 anyone in the denver area, or close, email F@ktcl.com or (something like that. www.ktcl.com has the real addresses.) to get a copy of Mobys dj appearance at Twist & Shout. if you didnt hear it, it was very good. moby told a little joke before he started, apparently its gonna be put on there. as far as i know, we just have to keep bugging F (yea, thats his name) for a tape or cd or whatever of it. also, im still extremely interested in purchasing a moby tour shirt, preferrably the long sleeve one. anyone willing to help a poor soul out, please email me. P.L.U.R. -dale- prixfix@dreamscape.com We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: (mobility) request Date: 23 Aug 1999 22:30:32 -0500 Does anyone on the list happen to have the guitar tab for Revolver? I've checked on OLGA but they don't have anything... Thanks Daniel "How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) Moby in Minneapolis Date: 24 Aug 1999 03:35:55 -0500 Just got back from the concert. I want to say that I have read everyone's descriptions of the shows they went to and how awsome his performances are. The thing is I just had no idea how great it was going to be until I actually saw it. In fact the whole day was filled with Moby. I got up at eight and listened to the interview they did with him. It was interesting and I learned some new stuff. I then went to Let It Be, a record store in downtown Minneapolis, where Moby was going to sign autographs at 8 p.m. I was there by 7 and ended up being about the fifth person in line. He walked into the place very quietly and went straight to the back of the store where we were waiting for him. He was wearing big thick rimmed glasses that looked kind of goofy on him but yet seemed to fit him so well. They were much like the glasses he wears in the Honey video. I got to talk to him for a minute or two while he signed the things I brought. I'm going to spare you the general details of the concert because they are about the same as everyone else's descriptions. I don't remember the set list, either other than "My Weakness" in the beginning which worked very well with the banners and the lighting and set the overall mood for him to come on stage. Very, very touching intro. That song is now one of my favorites. When the show started I was at the very front by the stage and he must have recognized me from the autograph session because he smiled and waved. Later on he also noticed me still there sweating my ass off and walked over with the bottle of water he was drinking and poured it all on my head. That felt awsome. The club was so friggin' hot. He also did a cover of Prince's "Purple Rain" and another cover which I can't name off hand, although it sounded familiar. This has been a night I will never forget. Boom Boom was great. Moby was unbelieveable. I met him. I got autographs. I got waved to. I got water poured on my head........? And now I'm acting like one of those emphatic Backstreet Boys fans. I think I need some rest. Tim Jason- Nice to meet you today. Maybe I'll see you around first ave. sometime. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 24 Aug 1999 05:02:27 EDT I'm going to see the show at St. Andrews Hall on the 31st. I cant wait! hearing about other shows gets me all excited! But, I know it will be all I'm expecting! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Leroy O'briant" Subject: (mobility) (No Subject) Date: 24 Aug 1999 11:24:31 +0200 I'm a 19 year old male. I work in the U.S. navy, coming from chicago. I own the rare b sides set, and the play album, i have recently started collecting, but am a long time fan of the eletronic scene. I am stationed in europe now and looking for the europe info to continue my collection and knowledge. I love your page and what your doing. sincerely, O'Briant Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 24 Aug 1999 06:27:06 PDT >From: Rob Skipworth > If any of you have ever heard of a song by moby and another guy >(i >can't remember his name) anyway.. the song is called Shaum Gummi >(I think >thats the spelling) I think that's Paul Yates. If I'm not mistaken, in addition to the things Brad mentioned, Paul is the other guy on the Revolver single cover. >Its a wonderful song which is all about marshmallows. Its very >funny. >Brad asked him why he had never released it and he said that >they had just >finished making a video for it. He also said that >they were in contact >with the people working on Mike Meyers new >movie which is based on the old >Sprockets skit >on SNL. (NOW IS TIME ON SPROCKETS WHERE WE DANCE!!!!! TOUCH MY > >MONKEY!!!!) This is great news! I suggested this song for EXACTLY that SNL skit to my sisters when I played it for them back in March or something. It's so goofy. I'm glad they're making a video and talking to Mike Myers. I wonder if they got permission to use John Wayne & Tina Turner's names, as well as Darth Vader, which is a Lucasfilm property. (a goofy German? accented guy speaks these names between 'marshmallow' repetitions...) I wouln't be surprised if he had to change the goofy names in it because of this. Though that would be a shame. Thanks for the news on the possible live album and EOE rerelease, Rob, and the great story. I'm glad you and Brad had fun. -S _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) IN ROTATION AT MTV!!!!!!!!!!1 Date: 24 Aug 1999 06:37:50 -0700 (PDT) hey couch potatoes, BODYROCK IS IN ROTATION ON MTV NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO FUCKING GO TO mtv.com AND GGO TO SHOWS AND GO TO TRL (TOTAL REQUEST LIVE) AND VOTE FOR IT A THOUSAND (get it?)TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WANT TO SEE MOBY AND PHIZZO ON TV!!!!!!!!! okay now, shit ill have to watch the mtv awards just cuz mobys in it! damn! is EBN still doing the nominees thing again? they rocked when they did that! they rock even more live! also, the played BODYROCK on amp this week. it was the rave on the rocks followup edition, cuz last week was live chems/fbslim so it was videos by those groups, plus new moby and basement jaxx and cirrus videos, just for good meaasure. yay! REQWEST BODYROCK AND TELL ALL YR FRIENDS! no BLUR or CHEMBROS or WEIRD AL vids are in rotation so this is yr only hope!!!!!! AND PLEASE TELL THEM TO PUT SIFL & OLLY BACK ON!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED OUR SOCKS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Guenther Koch" Subject: RE: (mobility) IN ROTATION AT MTV!!!!!!!!!!1 Date: 24 Aug 1999 16:38:03 +0200 hahahaha !!! I have MTV Europe here, MTV Germany and MTV Italy ... but NO TRL and NO "MTV on the isle" - so what should I do ? Immigrate to the USA ? Do u have a job for me ? ciaooo from Italy // Guenther > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Phizzo Jobson > Sent: Dienstag, 24. August 1999 15:38 > To: mobility@xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) IN ROTATION AT MTV!!!!!!!!!!1 > > > hey couch potatoes, > > BODYROCK IS IN ROTATION ON MTV > NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > SO FUCKING GO TO mtv.com AND GGO TO SHOWS AND GO TO > TRL (TOTAL REQUEST LIVE) AND VOTE FOR IT A THOUSAND > (get it?)TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > WE WANT TO SEE MOBY AND PHIZZO ON TV!!!!!!!!! > > okay now, shit ill have to watch the mtv awards just > cuz mobys in it! damn! is EBN still doing the nominees > thing again? they rocked when they did that! > they rock even more live! > > also, the played BODYROCK on amp this week. it was the > rave on the rocks followup edition, cuz last week was > live chems/fbslim so it was videos by those groups, > plus new moby and basement jaxx and cirrus videos, > just for good meaasure. yay! > > REQWEST BODYROCK AND TELL ALL YR FRIENDS! > > no BLUR or CHEMBROS or WEIRD AL vids are in rotation > so this is yr only hope!!!!!! > > > AND PLEASE TELL THEM TO PUT SIFL & OLLY BACK > ON!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED OUR SOCKS > BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > === > "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester > on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL > SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! > ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! > feedback@mtv.com > >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) IN ROTATION AT MTV!!!!!!!!!!1 Date: 24 Aug 1999 08:40:20 -0600 i agree! bring moby into the spotlight on MTV(hell i havent even seen mtv in a month, but it stillwould be cool.) and BRING BACK THE SOCKS!!! SIFL AND OLLY ARE GODS OF COMEDY! WE NEED SIFL AND OLLY AND WE NEED MOBY!! P.L.U.R. -dale- Were gonna mess ya up and were gonna screw things up and were gonna break some crap for sure, yeah! -Chester ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Blackwell Subject: (mobility) Get Moby on TRL! Date: 24 Aug 1999 09:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Hey Everyone, I noticed that they have added bodyrock into the voting booth for TRL, so let's all make a difference and go VOTE for moby! Tell all your friends, tell your grandma, everyone go and vote for moby. Here's the URL: http://www.mtv.com/mtv/tubescan/trl99_new/ Then click on "play my song" if that doesn't work, just goto mtv.com click on shows, then scroll down to "Total Request Live" and hit "Play my Song" Now, I know that bodyrock isn't the _best_ track on Play, but here's our chance so let's make the best of it! Thanks, -Dan _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: (mobility) Rare moby items for sale Date: 24 Aug 1999 10:33:00 -0700 Hi! I have the following items for sale on Ebay, please email me with any questions--thanks for looking! Check out my other synthpop/electronic auctions (orbital, underworld, leftfield, etc.) on EBay, userid: mazbass http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=148486474 Voodoo child/moby: higher UK cd single OOP!! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=148492694 jon spencer-experimental remixes CD-MOBY REMIX/BECK http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=149028602 Moby/UHF-UHF EP early US 12" INSTINCT RECORDS http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150371866 Moby: Bodyrock UK promo 12" #1 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150374812 Moby-Next is the E US PROMO 12" (REMIXES!) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150385775 moby-GO UK REISSUE CD SINGLE (JAM AND SPOON REMIXES) this item could be of interest to classic moby fans.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=148485461 Human Resource: Dominating the world OOP CD!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) boston show Date: 24 Aug 1999 13:45:36 -0400 Yo, I am going to do everything posible to get to that Boston show! I really want to go, and it is even cooler that it is free, however, being free, it probably won't be a crowd of MOBY fans, but who cares. Only problm is, I have an orientation that I don't want or need for BC on that day, and I have to find a way out of this MANDATORY event... We will see. I just found out my school doesn't even have Japanese, which is kind of crucial to my major, so I am a little pissed at them already... Anyway, Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Sailin' On Date: 24 Aug 1999 10:50:28 PDT Just a quick note: According to the sleeve of the promo copy, the Bad Brains tribute w/ Moby's cover of "Sailin' On" was released today. Go check it out if you;'re interested. I'd like to hear the Sepultura cover, too, so I'll be getting it soon. -S _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 24 Aug 1999 14:07:21 EDT Hi everyone, I have a question. How does the crowd react to Moby? I've never been to a Moby concert, and I'm wondering as a first-timer if I will get hurt, squished, stomped on, ect.... ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 24 Aug 1999 13:11:53 -0500 FELICIA!!!!!!! Great question.... the dallas show was my first moby show and i was very curious about the same thing. We were front row so i figured we would have bruises on us the next day... but no.... It was the happiest, most polite crowd i have ever seen. Everybody was dancing or jumping, but always careful to maintain their space. One drunk guy got a little pushy.. but the people around us shoved him to the back pretty quick. This may have just been the people around us... but i looked around several times and didn't see any pushing or shoving. A really great crowd! -----rob DJSkitles5@aol.com wrote: > Hi everyone, I have a question. How does the crowd react to Moby? I've never > been to a Moby concert, and I'm wondering as a first-timer if I will get > hurt, squished, stomped on, ect.... > > ~Felicia -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: (mobility) reiteration: dc Date: 24 Aug 1999 11:17:10 -0700 (PDT) i'm v. sure that we already went over this, but is the dc show 21+? --J #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 24 Aug 1999 14:20:03 EDT Thank you Rob! that took a load off my mind because I'm kinda fragile! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Get Moby on TRL! Date: 24 Aug 1999 11:33:35 -0700 > >I noticed that they have added bodyrock into the voting booth for TRL, > >so let's all make a difference and go VOTE for moby! > >Tell all your friends, tell your grandma, everyone go and vote for moby. Well, I voted. Once for me and once for my bf. :-) We don't even have MTV but I figured "what they hey?". I would kinda hate to see MOBY become 'trendy' but whatever. :-) I just don't want to see his music purchased by ppl who will only listen to it a handful of times and then sell it off to some cd shop and buy the newest N'Sync cd but I guess that's selfish. :-P VOTE EVERYONE! Please? DO IT! You can do it! --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 24 Aug 1999 11:29:41 -0700 > > >This may have just been the people around us... but i looked around several > >times and didn't see any pushing or shoving. A really great crowd! I think it depends on where you're at. At most shows there is pushing and shoving. A lot of ppl just loose it. At the first show I went to, everyone was dancing and having a good time. I don't think anyone really even noticed who was on stage. It was festive and fun. The second show was different. The crowd didn't seem to know that there would be a dj. I think most of the ppl at the show had only heard 'play'. I say, always use caution. It's also good to have someone with you if you're in front or it's good to make friends with ppl who look formidable. :-) Have a great time! --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) St. Louis rocks the party that rocks the body Date: 24 Aug 1999 13:32:46 -0500 Hey folks Who is going to be at the st. louis show? I will be there, along with Brad Caviness. Please email me if you're going. I would love to meet some more of you people :) -----rob -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JSoquet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 24 Aug 1999 15:15:05 EDT ok not to be a dick or anything like that but do people on this list actually want everyone listing to Moby. Like would you want people who listen to Backstreet Boys, listening to moby. I think that everyone on here loves him so much because not everyone knows him. From what I've been reading, not many people know about him and I'm kinda glad. If more people start listening to him then after the shows you think he would stick around and sign autographs and talk to each and every person. No I don't think so. I love that barely anyone knows him. It makes you feel closer to him when you get to talk to him after the show. that's just my opinion as of right now. Sun ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: Re:(mobility) Sailin' On Date: 24 Aug 1999 12:33:56 -0700 >According to the sleeve of the promo copy, the Bad Brains tribute w/ Moby'= s=20= >cover of "Sailin' On" was released today=2E Go check it out if you;'re=20= >interested=2E I'd like to hear the Sepultura cover, too, so I'll be getting it=20= >soon=2E How cool!! I can't wait to hear that=2E The Bad Brains were one of the most insane bands when they first started--live and on record=2E I saw them in '81 or '82 and it was crazy=2E I'm glad Moby=20= picked one of the faster songs and not one of their Jah tributes=2E Deemo np: Jimi Hendrix - BBC Sessions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 24 Aug 1999 15:53:16 -0400 I used to listen to Jewel back in 93/94 and thought she was great. She had a small cult following and had just wrapped her album. She seemed true to herself and all that BS. Then she rerecorded her singles and revamped her look (i think thats what they call selling out in some circles) and became hugely popular. But the songs now sucked(but she didn't rerecord the album, just the singles, so everyone who bought the album hated it because they wanted to hear the new versions. I now Hate Jewel. I think her music sucks beyond anything. Hanson was so much better than her now. But nayway back to Moby. Moby's been doing this for many years(making music), so more power to him becoming more popular. I want all the teeny boppers listening to him...they buy more records. More records sold means more money for promotion, future projects, future white picket fences. Moby's a true artist with a well established track record. I don' think hed change for the masses and if he did, we'd still love it cuz its Moby and he'd do something interesting with it. PLus he's getting older, time to start on that nest egg. And I'd rather hear Moby when I turn on the radio than Kid Rock or Len. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: (mobility) Moby in Seattle? Date: 24 Aug 1999 13:06:30 -0700 Is Moby going to be going to Seattle at all during his tour? Jeff Logan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JPCbridget@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 24 Aug 1999 16:15:01 EDT Hanson is better than Jewel? And you like Moby?!?! Forgive me, I have been but a silent member ... until now. Do you know the difference between respecting and appreciating someone's music and being some retarded "FANatic" who cries in the presence of "musicians" such as Jordan Knight? Moby is differentiated from so many others b/c he is himself -- he wasn't created by a group of people who were out to make a lot of money by tapping into the teenybopper market. Moby promotes social awareness and communicates ideas and visions through his music. He is not just out to make money b/c people think he's cool. He is cool b/c his music transcends the dollar sign and actually speaks to his audience. They say the 90's has nothing to define it, like the 60's had Woodstock -- which is SO true. The convergence of mass media and technology is definitely raping our society. BUT, why allow ourselves to be corrupted by this? Why not let this convergence affect us positively rather than rape us of our humanity? What ever happened to ideals and ideas? What ever happened to people being people? Sure, you'd have seen plenty of girls crying at a Grateful Dead concert, but not because Jerry Garcia was "hot" -- it was because of the music and the emotional connection or energy or whatever... Plenty of you will refute -- but they were all on psychedelics -- that's why they felt an emotional connection with the music. If that's what it takes for people to appreciate music again, I prescribe our entire society to trip every day!!!!! I guess its your perspective what music you like, but in my opinion, Moby represents "real" music and I certainly don't consider a group of small boys marketed through teen magazines and Nickelodeon "real." I guess I'm just looking for meaning in this desolate place of gigabytes and microchips. Peace. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Seattle? Date: 24 Aug 1999 13:26:08 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jeff Logan wrote: > Is Moby going to be going to Seattle at all during his tour? Yup, Moby's been here. He was here back in May and did an appearance at ARO.space for a cd listening party for "Play" and to do a dj gig. Then he played at 107.7fm The End's (*gag*) Endfest about the 6th or 7th of August, i think. He also played up in Vancouver BC and then down in Portland too around the same time. sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html _____________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e _________________________________fuck logic fuck logic ___________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t ______________________________and sweet intuition, honey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Seattle? Date: 24 Aug 1999 13:27:59 -0700 >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jeff Logan wrote: >> Is Moby going to be going to Seattle at all during his tour? > >Yup, Moby's been here. He was here back in May and did an appearance at >ARO.space for a cd listening party for "Play" and to do a dj gig. > >Then he played at 107.7fm The End's (*gag*) Endfest about the 6th or 7th >of August, i think. He also played up in Vancouver BC and then down in >Portland too around the same time. > >sarah >"...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." >http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html > >_____________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e >_________________________________fuck logic fuck logic >___________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t >______________________________and sweet intuition, honey How did I miss it. Does anyone know if Moby will be on the West Coast anytime soon. Or where I can find a good list of concert dates? Jeff Logan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 24 Aug 1999 15:28:57 -0500 I totally agree with Sun.... however as much as I love being the only of my friends who listens to moby (and i especially love the overwhelming "thank yous" that i get after dragging them to the show) its kind of selfish of us to want moby's music only for ourselves. However, I don't think it will ever be a big problem. His music is not very radio friendly in today's world of backstreet boys and britney spears. As long as you have to WORK to hear his music, he'll never be really big. Which i think is fine with me, and i would be willing to bet its fine with him. ---rob JSoquet@aol.com wrote: > ok not to be a dick or anything like that but do people on this list actually > want everyone listing to Moby. Like would you want people who listen to > Backstreet Boys, listening to moby. I think that everyone on here loves him > so much because not everyone knows him. From what I've been reading, not many > people know about him and I'm kinda glad. If more people start listening to > him then after the shows you think he would stick around and sign autographs > and talk to each and every person. No I don't think so. I love that barely > anyone knows him. It makes you feel closer to him when you get to talk to > him after the show. that's just my opinion as of right now. > > Sun -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Seattle? Date: 24 Aug 1999 13:48:03 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jeff Logan wrote: > How did I miss it. Does anyone know if Moby will be on the West > Coast anytime soon. Or where I can find a good list of concert dates? I believe he has been added to the Coachella music festival in southern California on October 10th. You can get both days full lineups here: http://208.242.114.231/coachella/ You can also get concert dates at http://www.moby.org or maybe at http://www.pollstar.com sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html _____________________r_e_p_e_a_t__a_f_t_e_r__m_e _________________________________fuck logic fuck logic ___________________b_r_a_v_o__t_o__i_n_s_t_i_n_c_t ______________________________and sweet intuition, honey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:01:16 -0400 JPCbridget@aol.com wrote: > > Hanson is better than Jewel? And you like Moby?!?! Yes I love Moby I own 25 Moby Cds and I had to go out and spend money to get them just like the FANatics of Limp Bizkit and Korn, who also feel an emotional bind to that music. Just because you don't have the same taste as some one does not make that music any less relevant. MOby is a perfect example of this. He's versatile, He makes music to make you cry, to make you learn, as well as making music to shake your ass and get off to. > He is cool b/c his music transcends the dollar sign and actually > speaks to his audience. His audience is wide and consists of not only the people on this list but also teeny boppers, industry insiders, other musicians, and people who watch Greg and Dharma commmercials. And other than most rap these days I don't know of any music that DOESN'T transcend the dollar sign, I mean who thinks of that when they're enjoying the music? > They say the 90's has nothing to define it, like the 60's had >Woodstock --> which is SO true. The convergence of mass media and >technology is definitely raping our society. BUT, why allow ourselves >to be corrupted by this? Comments like this bother me immensely. In the 60's folk music was a big market, like electronica is today. Woodstock was comprised of the most popular "white people" music of the day, much like the Woodstock and lollapaloozas of today. There were tons of other music festivals back then. Sure drugs were acceptable back then as was free love etc, but times change for a reason. I know people who went to woodstock 99 and the feelings they expressed to me were similar to those expressed by the attendees of the original. Just because people change and trends change doesn't mean the basic order of society changes. > I guess its your perspective what music you like, but in my opinion, >Moby represents "real" music and I certainly don't consider a group of >small boys marketed through teen magazines and Nickelodeon "real." I used to feel the same way since I am myself a musician and I play 8 instruments prolifically, I always used to hate hearing drum machines and synth guitars, etc thinking it was not "real" enough for me. Then I started working with an Emu analog synth from the 70s and became a recording engineer and that made me realize it doesn't matter where the music comes from, its how its put together and how it comes out. I mean I consider Richard James to be far more "real" in the same genre as Moby, but Moby's songs are more emotional and easier to move to. And the BSB and Nsync use a lot more real instrumentation than Moby does, and they're talented singers. They've all been singing their whole lives and they're getting their fifteen minutes and I don't think anyone should take that away from them. If you don't like their music then don't support them by buying it. But don't belittle them. They work hard at what they do, sow them respect for that. > Peace. Peace, Love and Harmony. a concept around well before the 1960's. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:49:00 EDT rock on dave!!!! that was deep man, yet powerful and to the point. later -=*Jeff*=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: (mobility) DALLAS REC SWAP Date: 24 Aug 1999 14:49:21 -0700 Hey Dallas fans, I have to travel to Dallas on business in September=2E Is= that record swap on Sept 19th worth going to??? Thanks in advance, Deemo np: Tsunami (Stereolab remix) - MSP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 24 Aug 1999 18:18:10 EDT You know, I had about the same experience as Rob with the crowd experience. Everyone is really nice and won't really do anything to you. They keep their space or if they have those glow thingies spinning around, people tend to stay about 7 feet away from them since they're going kinda crazy. And we also did have one guy who was a real ass. He started pushing this one girl at the beginning of Bodyrock. I didn't really get to see what was happening between the girl and the guy cause I was standing back a little to make sure no one took my camera (they didn't want cameras in the venue so I stayed about 10 feet away from the little guard people that could kick my ass and take my Moby pictures away!!). But just before the actual drums picked up (live, not on the record...song is MUCH better live, I must say) he stopped. And then he said something like "Why are you picking on her? What did she do to you?" and then some other stuff. I was just kind of astonished at how into the crowd he was (there was only about 150 people in the whole place....Endfest...and Kid Rock was headlining...what could you expect?). Then he dedicated the song to that asshole and was like "You know, I take back the thing I said before this song...I'm now going to sing it for that asshole that just got kicked out of here, and also sing this song for (the girl...I forget her name)." I dunno...I just thought it was kinda cool. Have fun at the show! Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 24 Aug 1999 15:33:59 -0700 > >I totally agree with Sun.... however as much as I love being the only of my > >friends who listens to moby its kind of selfish of us to want > >moby's music only for ourselves. It's such a catch twenty two. I want ppl to love MOBY's music and get into it and feel it, but at the same time I don't want Carson Daly saying "G-wiz, I can't seem to get 'play' out of my 1000 dish cd changer!". *sigh* >...but do people on this list actually >want everyone listing to Moby. Like would you want people who listen to >Backstreet Boys, listening to moby. Well, on this surface part of my heart, no I don't. I want MOBY to not become the next big thing. I don't to go to another show and see a bunch of 14 yr olds screaming out songs from 'play' or whatever cd is most recent at that time. But they will eventually fade. The problem w/that though is that ppl will diss on MOBY and he won't be taken seriously after all the 14 yr olds are done with him. But let it be.... Also, haven't most of us gone throught that "Teeny Bopper"phaze at some point? It's not something we can really help when we're young. A lot of kids just want to fit in and not get hassled. If that keeps kids from having traumatic experiences at school, then whatever. I didn't really go throught that phaze (unless you count when I was in grade school and I listened to what ever my best friend brought over....but then again, I will still listening to oldies, Breathe and Big Band. I was like, under 12 for God's sake!) Point is, almost all of us go through it and then our tastes grow and change and we get over it. Let the kids experiement. BS Boys will fade along with Brittney Spears. In the long run I think ppl always come back to stuff that isn't cliched and that doesn't get old. >I think that everyone on here loves him >so much because not everyone knows him. From what I've been reading, not many >people know about him and I'm kinda glad. If more people start listening to >him then after the shows you think he would stick around and sign autographs >and talk to each and every person. No I don't think so. I love that barely >anyone knows him. It makes you feel closer to him when you get to talk to >him after the show. I'm not sure I understand this paragraph. It sounds (please don't kill me!) scary and stalker-ish. What do you mean Sun? I'm not trying to be rude by saying that (I'm sure you'll hate me anyway :-) but really? What does that mean? Do you know MOBY personally? If so, previous comment rescinded. >Do you know the difference between respecting and appreciating someone's music and being some >retarded "FANatic" who cries in the presence of "musicians" such as Jordan >Knight? Well, I cried at MOBY but does that make me better than someone who cries at some other show? I don't really think so. It's not easy to be so moved that you actually cry. If some girl gets into Jordan Knight's song for some reason, that's cool. I hope she isn't the girl that's busy trying to rip his clothes off and who won't shut up during the show. I mean, when I saw MOBY recently, there were girls in the front yelling and calling out songs and saying "Oh, Porcelain is my favorite song!!!". It happens....it also annoys me because I'm truly having a touching experience with the music. Whoever MOBY is, it, in the end, doesn't really matter. The music is good and it touches me. And I hope it will continue to do so. >...he >wasn't created by a group of people who were out to make a lot of money by >tapping into the teenybopper market. I'm glad. It would be scary to see big N'Sync like MOBY stickers with just his head and some 'I'm a supermodel' grin goin' on! :-) Don't get me wrong, MOBY is cute but that would be overkill. :-) Ok, my opinion, don't kill me! --kimby > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cstepanek@nny.com (Chris Stepanek) Subject: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 24 Aug 1999 18:57:30 -0500 It is great everyone on this list talks about things but this whole thing about selling out and music for the masses, come one. Personally I like the color Orange, I prefer diet coke to regular coke and I like pie, oh ya my dad can kick all of your dad's asses. Sound pretty dumb, it is! For one we all have opinions, and we all should express them but stop coming down on others just because you disagree. if you disagree think out an arguement and present it , don't just resort to trivial put downs and four letter words. We all think different things Secondly, who cares if Moby "sells out". I personally don't listen to Moby because he is so undergorund and cool, rather he makes amazing music that never stops to amaze or bore me (and I am going into my 8th or so year listening to him). If Moby makes $700,000,000,000,000,000 dollars, goes on tour with the backstreet boys, starts selling t-shirts at wal-mart and your local chess king fine, more power to him. That just means more music for us to listen to, when it stops being good then we go somewhere else. I don't know who/what/where the idea that once you become successful (especially in the music world) you are a sell-out, your music becomes trivial and you aren't "core" anymore. In each one of our lives we strive to do the best we can in everything, it is not like you stop and say to yourself, "whoa there, i am just too damn successful right now, time to stop". Stop trying to pre-package ideas here. Everyone is complaining about selling-out, but at the same time everyone is spouting the same carbon copy ideas and in away they are sell-outs. Think for yourself, if you dig something dig it, if you don't then don't simple. Even Moby wrote that life is far to complicated to make black and white. I can't wait to catch the next Moby/N'synch/hanson tour when it comes to my town! - chris.stepanek / designer / nicholson.ny / cstepanek@nny.com / ICQ25163388 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 24 Aug 1999 16:06:18 -0700 > > >I can't wait to catch the next Moby/N'synch/hanson tour when it comes to my > >town! Me either, can we car pool? Gee, that drummer for Hanson, what a hottie! :-P Ok, really, good email, I agree. We should all stop and feel the love vibes, do ya feel 'em? *gigle* Life is too short to obsess over it I guess and I feel bad for taking about five minutes out of my day to think too much about it. :-) *hug* --kimby PS And to get your mind off of it, go, do something creative! Listen to a song you like and be happy. Wear an ugly shirt! Dare to not dare! Uh, I'm carried away now. :-) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:05:33 EDT In a message dated 8/24/99 6:03:48 PM Central Daylight Time, kimbalina@earthlink.net writes: << PS And to get your mind off of it, go, do something creative! Listen to a song you like and be happy. Wear an ugly shirt! Dare to not dare! Uh, I'm carried away now. :-) >> that is so true kim. thats so trippy. kudos to you!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:21:29 EDT Ditto...I agree with Dave. What happens will happen, but history - even if slightly altered - seems to repeat itself so I don't expect things to blow up into the "overnite phenom" that others may seem to on the TRL (personally not fond of). Even if Moby becomes as well known as Bjork or other artists that are still "odd" to the mainstream, I think he will be more deeply loved and appreciated by small numbers...you never know...just chill...spread the word...or keep it in your headphones...just breathe, wiggle every bone in your body and enjoy... Waiting for Moby to come westward (Coachella! cannot wait!) Gabriele "Hippidity Dude with hackety sack, Don't eatta da meat or smoky da crack. He's so Crescent Fresh!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.marian@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:22:20 -0400 (EDT) moby selling out- i think part of what I like best about being a fan and admirer of Moby is that I respect him. I wish him all the best in whatever his career brings. My take on the issue of mainstream popularity is pretty much that if he's going to become mainstream, it'll most likely be on his own terms, you know? And I like Moby's terms. I have enojyed watching him twist and turn through genres and styles, and I assume that he will continue to experiment and try new things musically and personally as time goes on. So if he gets popular, makes a lot of money and new fans, I hope he enjoys every minute of it. Should the tides change and force Moby into obscurity, well props to mobility; we will stand by our man. He has already accomplished quite a lot, don't you think? And as to the mainstream reaction to Moby, "teenybopperism", I'll tell you all a deep dark secret. When I was younger, I was a *HUGE* third wave Monkees fan. I can't say the music is particularily amazing, or that they deserve Oscars or anything, but they made me laugh, and some of those kinds of experiences are worth more than any deep, appreciative, serious moment in high art. SO CHEERS! Enjoy the music, and the persona who offers it to all his fans alike. Meaghan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 24 Aug 1999 16:28:39 PDT You're probably right about the autograph thing, and I probably would feel violated somehow if Moby were mainstream, but on the other hand it might enlighten some people on the values of REAL music (i sure sound pretentious, don't i? :) ). I'd like Fatboy Slim a lot more if he weren't popular :) >From: JSoquet@aol.com >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:15:05 EDT > >ok not to be a dick or anything like that but do people on this list >actually >want everyone listing to Moby. Like would you want people who listen to >Backstreet Boys, listening to moby. I think that everyone on here loves him >so much because not everyone knows him. From what I've been reading, not >many >people know about him and I'm kinda glad. If more people start listening to >him then after the shows you think he would stick around and sign >autographs >and talk to each and every person. No I don't think so. I love that barely >anyone knows him. It makes you feel closer to him when you get to talk to >him after the show. that's just my opinion as of right now. > >Sun > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 24 Aug 1999 16:35:36 -0700 > >So if he gets popular, makes a lot of money and new fans, I hope > >he enjoys every minute of it. That's true I mean, whose life is it any way? None of us are MOBY. *sigh* We have our wants and desires but heck, let it be, as I said before. Let it be. :-) > >Should the tides change and force Moby into > >obscurity, well props to mobility; we will stand by our man. He has > >already accomplished quite a lot, don't you think? Agreed. > >When I was younger, I was a *HUGE* third wave Monkees fan. I > >can't say the music is particularily amazing, or that they deserve Oscars > or anything, I was too, infact, I still love the MONKEES! I totally love the MONKEES. I mean, gosh, other ppl wrote most of their music! But it's still fun and I have a lot of good MONKEE memories. *sigh* And hey, I like 80's music a lot and like that stuff was very lyrically or musically amazing? Come on, Lisa and The Cult Jam?! No. :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Questions for Moby Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:38:00 -0600 At 04:15 PM 8/24/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Plenty of you will refute -- but they were all on psychedelics -- that's why >they felt an emotional connection with the music. If that's what it takes >for people to appreciate music again, I prescribe our entire society to trip >every day!!!!! Ok, I've got my question for Moby. I'll try and keep this impersonal and i won't say what i think of this comment (im really not to sure how serious a comment it was), but I'm really curious about how Moby would react to a comment such as this one. What is Moby's stance on drugs, and especially the possible influence that these "psychedelics" have on people and how they may relate to his music? Would he condone this type of thinking, or would he think of his music more as a drug (not in the harmful sense) in itself, worthy of standing alone? And to continue down that line, does he think that his music would be better appreciated straight or a in an altered state? Or maybe a time and a place (and maybe a different song list) for everything? I'm not sure if this interviewer guy has already asked his questions, just too many emails a day to keep track, but i would like to hear. Maybe Moby has already spoken on the subject, and if so, someone could fill me in. Oh and Kees thanks for the new nick, to clear up confusion i am now - Canadian Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:37:22 -0400 jj fish wrote: > I'd like Fatboy Slim a lot more if he weren't popular :) > bingo. aside from having the meatheads now love him, there was the surprise of being sick of hearing his songs on every commercial and movie soundtrack for about six months. had a buddy in my car some months ago asked me to put in some Fatboy i had to tell him no. i can't take it anymore. and i think that's what we don't want to happen w/our Moby. cheers bj ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 24 Aug 1999 16:52:03 PDT >His audience is wide and consists of not only the people on this list >but also teeny boppers, industry insiders, other musicians, and >people who >watch Greg and Dharma commmercials. I've never met any "teeny boppers" who liked Moby, with the possible exclusion of Bodyrock. I like the bassline and chorus for a BSB song, but I hate the meaningless lyrics (talking about romance rather than Love). So I don't buy anything by them. Teeny boppers may like Bodyrock but they don't actively buy Moby albums, or go out of their way to go to concerts or read up on him. I would not call them fans then, but just people who like him casually. I'm not putting them down, but they aren't really an audience. >Comments like this bother me immensely. In the 60's folk music was a >big market, like electronica is today. Woodstock was comprised of the >most popular "white people" music of the day, much like the Woodstock >and lollapaloozas of today. I know people who went to woodstock 99 >and the feelings they expressed to me were similar to those expressed by >the attendees of the original. Just because people change and trends >change doesn't mean the basic order of society changes. I may have not been alive in the 60s (or the 70s for that matter) but I love Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, the later Beatles, CCR, because I discovered them by myself and find them INTELLIGENT and THOUGHTFUL and SOCIALLY AWARE, unlike BSB or Britney Spears (does it bother you that those two both have a BS in their initials?_) I don't think electronica is really big, at least "real" electronica. Big Beat isn't really electronica, but Pop(I like it still, though). Electronica is, for me, ambient, trance, IDM, etc. Pop, by its own standards, is nonconfrontational and usually about Romance or Nothing. Groups like Limp Bizkit, Korn, Puff Daddy, or Kid Rock don't really have a message, but revolve around bringing their respective genre's (Metal, Rock, Rap, etc) to the mainstream by dumbing it down. Most of those genre's had soul... I don't think Limp Bizkit or Korn or Kid Rock are metal, rap or rock, but Pop derivations. Most of their songs appeal to teenage angst superficially (Limp Bizkit's "Break Stuff" is one of the most obvious pandering song titles I've heard). Rage Against the Machine I respect, though I don't like the music itself. I don't like all rap, but have respect for Real rap, that is, rap with a message (Public Enemy). REAL music is emotional or truly visceral or powerful or full of a message or experimental just because it wants to, not because it's fashionable. POP music is popular and is usually a watering down of REAL music, with occasional real crossovers (The Beatles, Paul Simon, Rage Against the Machine, Public Enemy, etc.). Backstreet Boys sometimes I wonder about becoming like the Beatles- starting off with POP and moving into intelligence....???? Sorry about the pretentiousness. >I used to feel the same way since I am myself a musician and I play 8 >instruments prolifically, I always used to hate hearing drum machines >and synth guitars, etc thinking it was not "real" enough for me. Then I >started working with an Emu analog synth from the 70s and became a >recording engineer and that made me realize it doesn't matter where the >music comes from, its how its put together and how it comes out. I used to hate synths, too.... http://www.mp3.com/CorrugatedFunk "I've never heard any music like this in my life, and if I have, I don't know where I've heard it." -The Orb ambient, techno, dub, classical, minimalist, satire, world Defending the Universe from the Threat of the Dream Eaters _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ruben A Blanco Subject: (mobility) Mobyisms & MOBY's DENVER SHOW Date: 24 Aug 1999 18:32:22 -0600 (MDT) Hello all, (Sooorry this is a long response, my 2 cents) I have been reading all the music criticism and MOBY TOUR REVIEWS and all I can say is that MOBY is moving in a postitive motion. He was once known for being the little skinny bald guy cranking out the "COOL" Rave Beats at small clubs and small rave acts at Touring Electronica shows and then Woodstock. He made it big for "Everything is Wrong" and was pronounced the Grandfather of TECHNO. He landed big Soundtrack arranging and Remixing BASED ON HIS TRUE TALENT. Everybody questioned him for doing "Animal Rights," and then now everybody is blasting him for being "too popular?" I went to a FREE MOBY CONCERT in Denver at the KTCL FREELOADER Concert Series and it was a blast! There were alot of people who attended that were not "Die Hard Moby Fans" but were there for the free concert or whatever reason. The Concert Venue "Ogden Theater" reached it's capacity and had to close it's doors and turn away a lot of people (either Moby Fans or FreeLoaders). Moby played for Free! Who else does that? Not a lot of Artists can. My point is MOBY is such a great Musician that he touched all the Fans there at that free concert. Maybe they will buy up all the Moby records who knows? But they were all effected when the emotional movements for the songs Porcelain, Why Does my Heart Feel So Bad, Go, Feeling So Real, etc. Then ending the concert with no shirt on, standing up on his instrument the Keyboard, arms extended, lights flashing, MOBY was displaying himself for all to see. Did he want to show off his skinny frame body? Was he trying to cool off after the HOT concert? Maybe he was stating "this is who I am!" He didn't come onto the stage with a sparkling Silver Suit with a matching cowboy hat, he wasn't dressed all in black with his face all painted, he wasn't wearing a kilt, he didn't say anything - no messages. He just stood there. It was a very moving sight, everybody was in awe. And 1000 was blasting (I think, Moby said it was the shortest song he had ever made). The Synthesizers were blasting an emotional musical movement, Moby not moving arms extended in a crucifixion manner, lights flashing and lighting Moby's body. It was an unforgetable sight pure emotion. Leaving the concert everybody was amused in some fashion. So that means that MOBY was successful reaching new people with his music and effecting them in some way. Moby did say that he wanted to make his new album that would have have music for everybody. He succeeded in that! With sold out concerts and people buying up PLAY (and others) I would like to see Moby "strike it rich!" I would like to see him Donate Millions of Dollars to Protect Animals, protect the environment, protect the civil rights of others, and to promote peace and inspire people with his music. He could be up there with Sting and Bono and I wouldn't see him as selling out. MOBY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH HIS MUSIC, and he is doing that. He is going to make it to the Awards Shows and have his little Idiot T-Shirt on and touch Millions with his music. IS THAT A BAD THING? He is making his own music his way now, is that a Bad thing? He is making people feel good about themselves through his music. Is that a BAD THING? The time will come when MOBY will be headlining music awards, up there with the Backstreet Boys, etc. with the same national exposure and I will be proud on knowing that I have known his music, been touched and inspired by his music, and have been priviledged (sp?) to hear his message. Is that so BAD? Nah! So for all you folks who have not been able to see MOBY catch him now. The Emotion he puts into his music LIVE is unforgetable. I want people to buy his music, I want people to see him PLAY, I don't mind if MTV Carson does whatever with MOBY's Music. Moby has been around for a long time making music and hasn't deviated from his true IDEALS. I want to see him with that success, because with such success he will make a difference in today's society. He made Techno\Electronica mainstream. He is making music for the soundtrack of life. What will he do next? MOBY THANKS FOR THE GREAT SHOW AND THE GREAT MUSIC!!!! YOU HAVE DONE MORE THAN YOU REALIZE AND WE ALL APPRECIATE IT!!!! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Ruben Blanco rblanco@utep.edu ****************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Subject: (mobility) I ain't no sell out Date: 24 Aug 1999 18:39:36 -0600 Ok, now my two cents on this, cause this has become quite the heated debate. I think the thing that worries most people is popularity brings an artist down to a lesser level. But I think the truly great artists have the ability to please both the masses and, sorry to sound like an elitist, but those who look further into the music. My friend loves Moby because she finds many admirable things in him, both as an artist and as a man. It is very much more than having a beat to dance around to. But if Moby has reached the point of his career where he is also able to satisfy those just looking for a good beat (or a popular one) while still respecting who he is, and what his music stands for, he is probably a better artist now than he was before. A sell-out isn't measured by the amount of records they sell, but by the amount of conviction they have when standing by their beliefs (as long as those beliefs aren't making money of course - but then again, that would probably be a belief all the same, if it were well argued, though... if thats what the music would be about. thats a whole other topic). Would anyone call the great painters, the great composers, the great writers of the past sell outs because they were popular? We all strive for greatness, and sometimes an artist displays his or her greatness, and some can truly comprehend their message, while others just glance at afar. I probably will never be able to truly appreciate a Shakespearean drama or Bach concerto or a Picasso painting, but I find them beautiful all the same. And sometimes I am able to move somewhat closer to the beauty behind the image, and that is what gives a popular artist credibility. When the artist can please both the simple senses and the more refined, it is much more meaningful than just being able to play for those who readily appreciate the more complicated details of what it means to be Moby (or for that matter, those who just recognize a good beat). So good for Moby. I personally like a lot of very popular things, including some music, and that has no indication of whether or not I have sold out. The thing someone should be asking is whether or not this newfound audience is a conscious attempt by Moby to gain in material wealth. And if someone believes that Moby would go that far for money, at least from what I have gathered about Moby so far, then this mailing list probably isn't the best place for their input. But you can, and should, listen to him all the same. Canadian Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) I ain't no sell out Date: 24 Aug 1999 21:17:08 -0400 my cent worth theres no such thing as being a sellout. show me the money eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) I ain't no sell out Date: 24 Aug 1999 21:46:07 -0400 First of all, I didn't call anyone a sellout. On the FATBOY SLIM thread, I just heard Moby's Southside on Fox Files piece about the porn industry. And Moby's music has been used for more movie preview soundtracks than probably anyone in history( I remember going to a movie and hearing his music in 3 previews in a row, as well as in the feature). HE's on commercials, tv shows, at every club and recently has even been on the radio and now is listeed on MTV's TRL listing. I think the guy gets plenty of exposure. Just because he isn't on MTV jams countdown or whatever doesn't mean hes not selling records. PLAY has had countless reviews, made tons of top album lists, he even had an interview in MARS(music store) newsletter/magazine. I mean, I'M pretty sick of the guy to be honest with you. Its a good thing he's got a huge discography to keep me entertained. =P oh yeah Led Zeppelin sold gazillions of records in the 70s, the beatles were a teeny bopper band in the 60s, and MOBY has a plethora of RAVE music. SO just because someoen starts out being poppy seed doesn't mean they won't make a huge impresssion further down the line. I mean, the beatles are the perfect example of how a band can progress. and the latest BSB album is much better than the first. =) as for britney spears, I don't like her music but i have a good friend of mine who looks just like her so....whatever dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) reiteration: dc Date: 24 Aug 1999 21:48:24 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BEEE7A.63E49C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my ticket says ages 19 & up. -----Original Message----- From: J Holland To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 2:19 PM Subject: (mobility) reiteration: dc =20 =20 =20 =20 i'm v. sure that we already went over this, but is the dc show 21+? =20 --J =20 =20 #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # =20 find it amusing. fight the power. =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BEEE7A.63E49C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
my ticket says ages 19 = &=20 up.
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i'm v. sure that we = already went=20 over this, but is the dc show 21+?

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------=_NextPart_000_004C_01BEEE7A.63E49C60-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JSoquet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I'm sorry Date: 24 Aug 1999 21:55:24 EDT Ok I'm sorry for bringing up that subject of selling out. I didn't want to start that again. and frankly I don't think that you could call moby a sell out even if he does reach a mass amount of people. SellinG out. every garage band, DJ, singer, actor, wants to make it big and that is their dream. and when they finally do get there we pick on them for accomplishing that dream. That bugs me, but I do the same thing. Except for B.Boys. uurrrg like a kid putting a model car together. that's what they are. just for show. so enough is enough on that subject quit it. I thank Moby for his personality, and his gifted talents. I thank him because he's doesn't let Popularity go to his head. He knows he is just human and nothing more. Except I think he is........ I just want to say Thank You. I bet he doesn't get that enough. I hope it puts a smile on his face when he hears that. Also did moby put anymore on Voodoo Child besides End of Everything besides the Dog Heaven Single. like and Album before?????? I love End of Everthing. it's so personal I think ....... plus I also wanted to know what Moby thinks of Drugs. like did he ever Roll? I know he doesn't like to harm our beautiful Bodies, but when he was younger did he?? well Take Care everyone and Smile it makes people wonder what have you have been up too. oUTTs with the Shouts SUn....Tempe, AZ. music playing ORB U.F. OFF ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re:(mobility) I may be a sell out, but at least I don't use oldies. Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:21:3 -0700 (PDT) Okay-- I'm not sure if this has ANYTHING to do with selling out... and least of all Moby... BUT -- what is with these GAP ads?? They are sooo wacky (and not a little bit scary!)!! 'mellow yellow???''dress you up in my love??' whoa. #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) concerts Date: 24 Aug 1999 22:41:30 EDT yes, getting a big person to help you out is very good. i met this huge german guy from atlanta with a nin hat, who helped me out. i noticed that sometimes stupid people come up front who don't really want to dance and just kind of stand there and get nervous when people jump and dance to the music. don't worry. riz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) my problem w/ bodyrock Date: 24 Aug 1999 22:59:38 EDT in response to all the stuff that is being said right now. i have no clue where i stand on the whole world embrace moby / stay underground and tight with thte fans. i see it from both points. i wish more people knew who moby was when i mentioned his name, but i've noticed that a lot more people are getting to know him, not from bodyrock, but older stuff that they just come in contact with becasue their music tastes are expanding. my problem with the bodyrock is that it seems like an entirely a fatboy slim rip. i know that its been said that bodyrock, wasn't written after the whole bigbeat obsession, but even still its not a particularly great moby song. imho it kinda sucks mucho. i think there is was better stuff on play. and quite honestly fatboy slim does bigbeat better. the video just takes the fatboy slim comparisons to the next level. lets be honest how many when we first saw the video said "hey isn't this praise you???". i mean really its done in the almost exact same style. thats my problem. i wish moby could've at leats done something different with the vid. riz please don't flame lets discuss instead :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keets3@aol.com Subject: (mobility) (no subject) Date: 24 Aug 1999 23:15:49 EDT Hi all, I've been part of this mailing list for about a month now, however I haven't said much. I had a few things to say to everyone and Moby. First off, I want to respond to Moby. He said something to the effect of having "bad eyes"...guess again!!! Many things drew me to moby, but particularly his eyes. He has the kindest eyes I've seen in quite some time!!! Eyes are the windows to the soul and the spirit. His spirit is like unique and jumps out at you via his music, essays and eyes :) His eyes just make him even more attractive! His essays are unbelievable!! I find them inspiring and thought provoking. I love how he integrates his music with his beliefs. I am a veggie aspiring to be vegan, and I find his essays push me to attain my goals and see things from other perspectives. We need to remember why we listen to Moby and care so much about him and his music...and stop worrying so much about all these petty things like MTV. We like him and he knows it! That is all that matters! Why don't we just continue to support him the way we have and let him decide what to do with his own career. One thing that irritates me is how people are so quick to stop "liking" a band because they suddenly are accepted by the "mainstream" peeps. You should like music because you like it, not either because everyone likes them or no one likes them!!!!!!! If you don't like what everyone else likes simply because everyone else likes them, then you are just as bad as liking them because everyone else does!! One more thing. Comparing Moby to any other artist is an impossible feat. He is MOBY!!!! I will say this however...being a parrothead as well. Look at Buffett. He has never had a top ten hit in all his days, yet every concert is sold out and if you ask most people, they love him! It his spirit that shines through. I feel the same for Moby. He just keeps on shining!!! I hope that makes sense :) Well, thanks for listening...and Moby if you happen to read this...thanks for everything!! You are greatly appreciated by many!!!!!! Hakuna Matata :) LiZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) suggestion Date: 24 Aug 1999 22:24:14 -0500 Hey everybody For all of you that are going to the concert soon, I have a suggestion. Take someone you really care about and hold on to them pretty tightly while "porcelain" plays. The song is incredible and sharing it with someone you love makes it ten times better. Sounds corny... but trust me. -----rob <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) (no subject) Date: 24 Aug 1999 23:33:38 -0400 > I will say this however...being a parrothead as well. Look > at Buffett. He has never had a top ten hit in all his days, yet every > concert is sold out and if you ask most people, they love him! It his > spirit that shines through. > Hakuna Matata > When I was living in miami I was backstage at a festival/Buffet concert thing and he assaulted me. he was upset about something and he took it out on me by calling me a name and pushing me. SO I don't like the guy and I take solace in knowing he writes silly songs about mixed drinks so he's not worth fussing over. dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) yahoo Date: 24 Aug 1999 22:37:54 -0500 Yahoo! launched its Digital Yahoo! music and video page Monday (Aug. 23) with downloadable tracks from Puff Daddy and remixable songs by Moby, David Bowie and Queen Latifah. The site (digital.broadcast.com) distributes music for purchase and free download in a variety of formats, including MP3 and Liquid Audio. By the end of the month, listeners will be able to post their own creations on the page, according to a Yahoo! press release. found this on addicted to noise ----rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) detroit show Date: 24 Aug 1999 23:58:52 EDT since someone asked who will be there. ill prolly get there early. its my last day free before i go back to school so im gonna live it up. [livin la vica loca hehe] if anyone wants me to pick them up a shirt e-mail me and ill give you an addy to send the cash to. -jason n . p . lamb . fear of fours www.mp3.com/wilt "Now that physics is proving the intelligence of the universe what are we to do about the stupidity of humankind?" -Jeanette Winterson _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine Date: 24 Aug 1999 00:38:16 -0500 Someone on rec.music.christian, spurred on by some Moby threads, posted this: > For those interested parties, this quote is taken from the August 14 > issue of World Magazine [www.worldmag.com]. > > "You don't have a rock festival based on peace and love and invite Kid > Rock and Insane Clown Posse."--Techno artist MOBY, on the riot-plagued > Woodstock '99 festival. He noted that some of the most popular > performers there specialize in a particularly combative mixture of hard > rock and rap. If you're going to quote this message, don't include the following signature... -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Sailin' On Date: 24 Aug 1999 22:40:35 -0600 michael.demattei@milliman.com wrote: > How cool!! I can't wait to hear that. The Bad Brains were one > of the most insane bands when they first started--live and on record. > I saw them in '81 or '82 and it was crazy. I'm glad Moby picked one of > the faster songs and not one of their Jah tributes. Moby's cover of "Sailin' On" is slow and very nice -- in a "When It's Cold I'd Like To Die" style. I never heard the original track, but I like Moby's version. Can't get enough of those pianos & strings. :) Daniel np: Fantastic Plastic Machine, "Honolulu, Calcutta" moby.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 03:30:15 EDT damn straight! lets all get over ourselves and return to loving moby and his music and being the best people we can be PS: do all of you know about Moby being at Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival, at Empire Polo Field in Indio, 20 minutes east of Palm Springs, CA (Coachella info line = 323)692-9361, www.coachella.com) Guess who else is going to be there on October 10 (sunday)? Cibo Matto! Gus Gus! Rage Against the Machine! and many more. The day before, on the 9th, Beck is gonna play there, along with Perry Farrell, Morrissey, and the Chemical Bros. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! + Coachella Date: 25 Aug 1999 05:14:07 EDT Exactly!!! Coachella will be amazing. Yes I am BUMMED that I can't drive around the East following Moby, but this may make up for it (for us sad people in the west - I feel bad for the fans in Hawaii)!!! And KIM, yes tickets are on sale (I'll get you details as I find out about them - for now see www.coachella.com). I am thrilled cause I will be working together with a friend for LAUNCH mag and I'll get to meet some of the bands etc etc...and I'll get to see MOBY for the first time (I want to experience "Thousand")!!! Which is the giddiest thing now that everyone's stories have gotten me so pumped!!! I swear I am riding my bike everyday so I will be in shape and ready to dance from dawn to past dusk without pooping out!!! Love and salsa, Gabriele "Rock n' roll friends check each other's books back in! Rock n' roll Dan's got a 50 foot moustache I can't stand." - Sifl & Olly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: (mobility) GEtting over ourselves Date: 25 Aug 1999 05:34:57 -0400 Don't EVER "get over yourself" Make a conscience effort to make yourself and your goals of p[rimary importance. If everyone takes care of their own problems the world will have a bright future. And make sure in taking care of yourself you distribute love onto other people. peace dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: (mobility) Grabbed Article. Date: 25 Aug 1999 11:08:52 +0100 Hi folks, If you're interested, here's an interview with Moby from the July 99 issue of Future Music, here in the UK. Some of it's a bit for tech-heads and gear phreaks, but for those of you who work away in your bedrooms with samplers and the like, then enjoy. The more general bits are good as well... Having already explored the worlds of house, ambient, punk rock and soundtrack music, Moby is back with an album of breakbeat-soaked swamp blues. Martin James went to meet the man known to his mum as Richard Hall in his Manhattan home... Richard Hall opens the door on his spacious loft conversion. It's situated on the top floor of an ex-psychiatric hospital in the Soho district of New York. Trendy boutiques line the sidewalks once littered with junkies. Down in the basement is the studio where the Beastie Boys recorded their last album and filmed the video for Three MC's and One DJ. You could say it's a building of some history. Not unlike one of the top floor residents, Mr Hall, in fact. The slight, shaven-headed musician has delivered some of the finest rave tunes, punk songs, ambient epics and techno workouts of the last ten years. And this month sees the release of his eighth album. It's called Play, its creator is better known as Moby and we're sitting in his sparsely decorated apartment-cum-studio with the sun beating down through the huge windows discussing life, the universe, music and the man's own working methods. As someone not afraid to explore the elasticity of genre, Moby's recorded output has been nothing if not eclectic. Whether intentionally so - on his debut album for Mute Everything is Wrong where he pursued a melting pot of styles with an almost perverse sense of mischief - or as a way of recapturing the energy of youth as on the belligerent garage punk collection Animal Rights, he has always eschewed the externally imposed boundaries of style and genre. For Moby it's a simple act of anti-fundamentalism. For much of the media, such shifts of direction have been viewed with suspicion. He's therefore become the dance musician dance mags love to hate, the rocker the rock press don't understand and the soundtracker the film world won't acknowledge. For the man once called the 'Iggy Pop of techno', fitting into someone else's tight genres is simply not an option. Even if it would make life a little easier for the world to compartmentalise him. For his latest album, New York City's favourite maverick has once again defied the style police and come up with an album of down-tempo, swamp blues that's inspired as much by indigenous field recordings of black American folk music as it is by hip-hop. Not only his most commercial venture for quite some time, Play is also his finest album yet. The man's musical adventures, it would seem, know no bounds. It's an approach which points an accusatory finger at the anti-evolution purism of dance culture and Play provides a one-finger salute to the purists who have written him off since he first deserted the dancefloor a few years back. "Fundamentalism exists in all areas of life. I've simply found myself criticised by music fundamentalists", explains Moby. "Fundamentalism, whether it's religious or with dance music or whatever, is so attractive to people because it provides you with a rigid, unchanging lens through which to view the world" he argues. "Everything is neatly compartmentalised and easily slotted. If you're a drum'n'bass fundamentalist, either it fits into your slot as acceptable of unacceptable. It's so clear. It has to be because the world is so complicated and confusing that people love belief systems that are reductionist. That's how they make sense of all the ambiguity in the world". Moby has made sense of all the ambiguity in the world by trying to adapt to all of its complexities. As a result, the key words that crop up in Moby's conversation are tolerance and flexibility. Words which are borne out in his lifestyle. He is still a Christian, although he doesn't believe in any organised religion, and he still chooses to be a vegan although, as he points out on one of his infamous inner sleeve essays (this time from Play) "... I don't judge people who choose to eat meat." These days Moby is indeed a far more tolerant man than the one who first launched his dance music career through seminal rave tracks like I Feel It and the Twin Peaks sampling Go. "I just figure the world is complicated enough" he laughs "and to be honest, I've been wrong so many times in the things I've said. When I was younger I was a lot more narrow in my beliefs, in some ways I couldn't accept another view to have the same validity as mine. But I've been proved to be so spectacularly, idiotically wrong on so many occasions that I've come to accept that there's room for many views. It's all about a balance. "It's like with the millennium he continues. "The worrying thing about the millennium is that it's going to be followed by a world malaise because of the depression at nothing happening. It's like in war time when people prayed for peace but once it came they found out that, actually peace is pretty dull. "I'm not advocating war but, for example, when I first moved to New York I lived with three other guys. One of them ended up being a psychopath. I mean he was really crazy ... he tried to kill us and burn down the apartment. We tried hard to get rid of him and then he finally left. We cleaned up the apartment and thought 'Wow, life is going to be great now', but actually it was kind of boring. "As I said, I'm not advocating war, or living with psychopaths or the millennium bug or anything. I'm just saying that somewhere between war and peace, life is interesting. And there are lots of different ways of living between war and peace. No one way is fundamentally better than the other." When Moby talks he fixes you with a captivating stare. Not a threatening, testosterone induced stare but one which both puts you at your ease and makes you feel like he's completely captivated by your conversation. It's the kind of skill a politician spends years learning. With Moby however, you always get the feeling that he is totally sincere in his actions. It's this sincerity that he admires in others. Especially when it comes to music with the man who has occasionally been known as the Little Idiot, Evil Ninja or even DJ Cake, giving huge props to the current Blur output as sounding "honest, in some way true to themselves". This honesty is something which Moby has striven for in his music. And where it can be contested that both everything is wrong and Animal Rights were contrived in their execution, with Play Moby seems to have made a record that has no need to make any statement beyond its own music. No deliberate eclecticism in order to shake up the dance community, no punk metal kicking petulant dust in the faces of the electronic music purists. "I've been told that this is a widely eclectic album" he says with a look of amazement, "but really I think I've tried to make something which hangs together as a whole. For this record I probably made about 200 songs. Out of these about 40 were punk rock songs, 30 were faster techno-y house things and I also made about 20 straight-forward pop songs because I have in the back of my mind this anonymous pop project. "I knew that I didn't want to make an album from any of these styles this time. After the last Album, Animal Rights - which was very aggressive - I wanted this album to be more inviting. Still very personal and emotional but a little bit warmer and less self indulgent". In many ways Play can be split into three separate, yet intrinsically linked, sections. Firstly there are the tracks like the singles Honey and Run ON which were formed around field recordings made be a folk historian called Alan Lennox who, along with his father, amassed a huge catalogue of black music in the early 20th century. Next up are the tracks featuring Moby himself on vocal duties like Porcelain and South Side. Finally come the quiet instrumental tracks like Rushing. The whole thing is then held together by down-tempo, commercial hip hop breaks as inspired by Busta Rhymes and Puff Daddy. Despite the apparent change in direction, the whole thing sounds typically Moby. Why? "I have a sort of stereotypical string sound from the (Yamaha) SY22 which you hear on almost everything "he says as we walk into his studio which he declares has been "tidied up for the benefit of this interview". "Every record I've ever made, I've done everything myself," he continues while stepping over Roxy Music CDs and a Joe Jackson album, "mainly because whenever I work with other people in other studios I get kind of nervous. "This is because I've been working by myself since 1983 when I had a little Mattel drum machine and a task M four-track which set up my basic methodology of working. And when I go into an outside studio I have that pressure of having to do something good because I've just spent $2000 a day on it. At home I can spend about a week and get garbage and not feel bad about it." Moby's studio is swamped by two things: fly posters advertising all of his albums and his Soundcraft desk. Along one wall sits a rack of keyboards while his samplers and effects stand in a single tower. Next to the desk sit two Apple Macs. However, it's the older one he reaches to in order to demonstrate the tools of his trade. "Isn't it pathetic I have this brand new Macintosh G3 and I'm still using my old 2CI" he laughs. "My friends think I'm a retard. I bought the brand new version of Cubase VST for the G3 but I don't like the way it quantises. This old version from about 1993 on my 2CI has, like, these four different built in shuffle patterns and it just feels livelier. "In 1987 when I was messing around with my TR-606 and my Casio CZ-101, all I wanted was more equipment" he continues as the Apple Mac loads the software. "I would read magazines and look in stores and drool over things. I'd be, like, 'If only I could afford a Midiverb, everything would be fine.' I used to know my equipment inside out. But now that I've got loads of gear, I'm not so into pulling stuff apart. I'll even stick with the factory presets on the synths". With Pro Tools up and running, Moby points to his four separate samplers, all of which he used in tandem in order to create as much sampling time as possible to record this album. On everything is Wrong, each track required a completely different set using separate sample disks and so on. The process of loading each track took at least 25 minutes. For Play Moby created a huge palette of sounds to choose from so he could just load and start playing as the mood took him. "I have this Akai museum here," he says. "I bought the S950 in 1990. In 1993 I bought the S1000 and then two years ago I bought the S3200. For this album I decided I wanted to create as much sample space as possible so I bought the S3000. So I've got pretty much every Akai sampler they made between 1989 and 1998. Now they have these big huge crazy ones with the removable face plate but I don't have any of those. "To me the 1000, 3000 and the 3200 are pretty much the same machine. There's a world of difference between them and the S950 but those three are pretty much the same. The differences are subtle. I mean the 3200 is a waste of time for me. It does all of these things that I'll never do like read and write SMPTE. I use my Studio 4 for doing that. The S950 is a wonderful machine. It's really special for looping and rimming samples. For some reason it's just more intuitive." For Moby sampling ahs a lot to do with intuition. Not for him the laborious task of learning to use the equipment inside out, upside down and in another dimension. "I've read an interview with DJ Shadow where he's said that he wants to master every single thing about the sampler and be like the sample king," he grins. "I'm not like that at all. My approach is pretty rudimentary. I sample things and then I use that sample. "The only thing I tend to do is play with the filters. The S3200 has two filter banks which I really like. You can send things like an LFO to the filters. On the track My Weakness from the latest album, I have this African choral vocal which has been filtered to death. Now it has no bearing on the original. And there's a song called Down Slow, and it's got this drum loop which has been really manipulated through the filter banks. But that's about as far as I go into the trickery." Running the whole show is the trusty Cubase. Moby may not like the Mac version but it's a system he can't see himself changing in the near future. "When I bought my first Mac, the guy that sold it to me recommended Cubase ... so I went with that. Basically I've never used anything else since," he considers, as he absent-mindedly plays the Twin Peaks keyboard refrain from Go on his SY22, as if to make his earlier point about the stereotypical Moby sound. "Until 1991 I used an Alesis MMT8, a potato chip sequencer that I loved. It's a wonderful piece of equipment but so limited. I loved the way that it was part based rather than being linear like Cubase. It's really easy to make monotonous music on modern sequencers like Cubase as opposed to thinking about linear blocks and segments which helped avoid making monotonous music. "Sometimes, for me, it's the limitations of a piece that make a composition so special. The piano will always sound just like a piano but that limitation makes a piano wonderful. The only piece of equipment that comes close to being limitless is the sampler. The only real limitations are what we as humans bring to it." A sentiment echoed time and again on these very pages. However, rarely do artists live up to their grandiose claims with record after record keeping to similar structures and frameworks. The magic of Moby's music is that it manages to tap into the energies of the source and marry them to the limitless imaginations of the true sonic surfer. His music may be commercial, but in his career he has explored more musical terrain than a thousand worthy underground artists. "These days there's so much to know about engineering in a studio," he concludes as we walk back into the white washed calm of his living room. "One of the album tracks, South Side, was mixed on an SSL. I'd always found them quite daunting but I succeeded and just thought to myself, "Wow, I'm like a real engineer now'. It'll be interesting in 20 or 30 years to autopsy the brains of sound engineers from the late 20th century". Doubtless it would be just as interesting to autopsy the brain of one Richard 'Moby' Hall as well. But let's hope it never comes to that. Inserts: Kit List Akai S950,S1000,S3000, S3200 Alesis ADAT Apple Mac running Cubase Casio CZ-101 dbx 160XT compressor E-mu Pro Piano Eventide DSP4000 Hafner power amp Oberheim Matrix 1000 Roland Juno106, Jupiter 6, TB-303, TR-606, TR-909 Sans Amp footswitch Serge modular synth Soundlab vocorder Spirit by Soundcraft 24:8:2 Technics 1200 turntables Waldorf Pulse Plus Yamaha SPX900, SY22, SY35, SY85 plus guitars and basses. Moby's graveyard "I have a gear graveyard which I haven't looked at in a long time because it's so depressing. The Roland GP-100 guitar preamp processor entered the graveyard really quickly because it's got unusable sounds. It was cool in the showroom but when I got it home it sounded too Japanese. Not that I'm anti Japanese. "Another mistake was this Drawmer EQ. I got the idea that I needed a valve EQ so I bought this. It's really expensive, and it's good but I never use it. I also have a Yamaha sampler from about 1989 called the TX16W. It's the least user-friendly operating system I've ever encountered in my life. I use it for strings occasionally because it's got one nice organic string sound, like a solo violin. That was the first sampler I ever bought and I saved up months to but this thing. And it took me like forever just to do anything. I spent so many nights just going to bed panicking because I'd just spent all this money on a sampler and I couldn't get it to work." Working Solo: "When you're working by yourself you cal lose objectivity so quickly and molehills become mountains. I'll be working on a song and if I can't get the kick drum to sound right I'll then I'm a failure and walk around Manhattan, mourning my fate. It doesn't matter that I've made lots of records in the past. All that matters is I can't get one kick drum right. And all I can think is my career's over and I'm going to have to become a fries chef at Macdonalds. "I wasn't happy with the mixes other people did for me so I went back to my own mixes that I did at home. Then I asked Liam from the Prodigy to mix something because I loved the sound he got on Fat of the Land. It's just a remarkable sounding record. One of those nights last year when I was walking around Manhattan feeling like a failure, I'd done a mix here and I put it on headphones. Then I thought, just for fun, I'd put Fat of the Land on. It sounded a million times better so I got very depressed. So I asked Liam if he'd be interested in mixing some or all of the album but he was too busy. It was a fortunate thing I the end because I'm really happy with the way the album turned out. "In the end I simply couldn't collaborate with anyone else. The only time I've tried it was in 1991 with Westbam. We were hanging out together and decided it would be fun to try and make a track. In the end we just brought out the worst in each other. I've been making music for 25 years now so I don't think about the process that much. It's got to a point where it's neither an intellectual nor visceral process. It's just something immediate and almost automatic. And working with another person simply affects that feeling." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) Misc....Moby plays (played) a Carvin? Date: 25 Aug 1999 03:33:19 -0700 > Wow, don't I wish I could. If we could all just become "dead moby heads" and > travel like a technoy band of transients, selling multi colored wares and trinkets > to the crowds in the parking lots, living day to day while MOBY is touring...wow, > what a life that would be. haha, i asked my mom if she would mind if i quit my job and just followed moby around the universe, and she said "well um, i guess you only live once, and uh, if it would make you happy"... wouldn't that rock? :) laura! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) Dallas Show (yee haw) Date: 25 Aug 1999 04:36:44 -0700 > Hi everyone, I have a question. How does the crowd react to Moby? I've never > been to a Moby concert, and I'm wondering as a first-timer if I will get > hurt, squished, stomped on, ect.... > > ~Felicia helloooo :) i've only been to one moby show so far, where he did two sets, but i can describe it to ya anyway :) the first set was an all electronic set, and basically everyone was either dancing or just standing and staring. i was quite close to the front and i didn't fear my life once :) but the second set, where he pulled out the guitar (and his band members, too), and sang, that one got a little more um, raucous. people were jumping around and flailing, and it was very squished, but there was no intentional harm done to anyone else. a little bit of pushing, but that's about it. keep in mind that this was a festival, tho, and a lot of the people there were just going from stage to stage, so it might be a lot different than a show where moby is the headliner. that said, it was still a lovely happy vibe, and my paranoid butt didn't freak out a single time :) laura! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) I may be a sell out, but at least I don't use oldies. Date: 25 Aug 1999 05:01:23 -0700 > > BUT -- what is with these GAP ads?? They are sooo wacky (and not a little bit scary!)!! 'mellow yellow???''dress you up in my love??' > > whoa. i think they're sort of 'one nation under a groove.' everyone is happy in their fluffy gap vests, singing in their own voices. ah. :) laura! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: (mobility) introduction (please send this time, darn computer. thanks) Date: 25 Aug 1999 05:14:37 -0700 hello. i'm new to the mobility list, as of a few weeks ago, and i thought as i'm going to want to spout a lot of stuff here, i might as well introduce myself :) my name is laura, i'm from portland, oregon, and i'm 19 years old. I first heard of moby (in more than passing) when i found his chats about a year ago at sonicnet.com, and was very impressed. i also laughed my bottom off. I had heard a few of his songs when i went to see him at the big stink festival in portland, and was really excited, but didn't really know what to expect. i was totally blown away. i danced through both of his sets, to the point where i thought i would pass out. it was such a beautiful thing. anyone else who has seen moby in concert probably knows what im talking about. i hopped around and grinned for the next week. :) anyway, i don't have any of moby's music on cd or anything, and i might not be the most savvy fan but i do dig him as much as can be. and just wait til my next paycheck! some of the cds i already own and love are by portishead, pj harvey, radiohead, sublime, otis redding, howlin wolf, air, the crystal method, and dj shadow. and not only will i be seeing moby again, but i get to see dj shadow and underworld, too, at coachella! thanks for posting the info, nimu-e :) thanks for *all* the great info, everybody! laura! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trousers Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 25 Aug 1999 05:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Dave, you seem to know everything - what lottery nos should i pick next week and what is this life thing all about? Peace - a concept Time - another concept Love - now there's something real __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) MOBY.ORG FAN PAGE Date: 25 Aug 1999 07:41:44 -0500 Hey Damian (and the rest of the list) What do you think about a page on moby.org for us to upload pictures??? It sounds like several people have taken cameras to the shows and it would be cool to post all of our pictures of and with moby up there for all the others to see. Anyone else agree with me??? ----rob <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) I may be a sell out, but at least I don't use oldies. Date: 25 Aug 1999 06:37:52 -0700 > >Okay-- I'm not sure if this has ANYTHING to do with selling out... and least of all Moby... > > >BUT -- what is with these GAP ads?? They are sooo wacky (and not a little bit scary!)!! 'mellow yellow???''dress you up in >my love??' > > I agree with that. Very scary. Hey didn't someone say that MOBY was going to do a Gap comercial? Hrmph. That's scary. But, MOBY tends to like to donate cash to charity so that's good. :-) Whatever helps is ok by me (not that I really matter :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine Date: 25 Aug 1999 06:44:06 -0700 > > > > "You don't have a rock festival based on peace and love and invite Kid > > Rock and Insane Clown Posse."--Techno artist MOBY, on the riot-plagued > > Woodstock '99 festival. He noted that some of the most popular > > performers there specialize in a particularly combative mixture of hard > > rock and rap. > This is very true. Woodstock '94 and this years Woodstock were truly based on cash flow. I mean, that's why the two guys did it in '94 right? I mean, weren't they sponsored by like Pepsi? How cheap is that? I'm surprised they weren't sponsored by like Death Cigaretts! Gee, does anyone know why MOBY played there anyway? I mean, Woodstock is just a cash cow for companies and bands now. Do you really think they care about love and peace *that* much? Do you think they'd put on the show for free w/the bands working for free in the name of peace and love? Na, I don't. But then again, I'm just evil that way. :-P --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 06:47:38 -0700 > > >Cibo Matto! Gus Gus! Rage Against the Machine! and many more. > >The day before, on the 9th, Beck is gonna play there, along with Perry > >Farrell, Morrissey, and the Chemical Bros. Oh my god! I have to go now! Morrissey!!! I love Morrissey! AH!!!!! Oh my god! Okay, I'm okay. Wow, now I really have to go. I hope it's on a weekend so I can talk my bf into going. *sigh* I know this is a MOBY list but does any one on here like Morrissey? *sigh* He's so hot, too bad he probably does't like girls but I've heard he also doesn't like boys. But who can tell. :-) Gee, is he still a virgin? --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby quoted in World Magazine Date: 25 Aug 1999 14:46:25 +0100 Mind you, there are still some festivals that are out there which are still done for the love of it. In the UK, for example, we get things like the Big Chill and Greenbelt, which may not have a bill stuffed full of Premier League acts, but can still get a good few in. Any like it in the States? Much Love, Ian -----Original Message----- Sent: 25 August 1999 14:44 > > > > "You don't have a rock festival based on peace and love and invite Kid > > Rock and Insane Clown Posse."--Techno artist MOBY, on the riot-plagued > > Woodstock '99 festival. He noted that some of the most popular > > performers there specialize in a particularly combative mixture of hard > > rock and rap. > This is very true. Woodstock '94 and this years Woodstock were truly based on cash flow. I mean, that's why the two guys did it in '94 right? I mean, weren't they sponsored by like Pepsi? How cheap is that? I'm surprised they weren't sponsored by like Death Cigaretts! Gee, does anyone know why MOBY played there anyway? I mean, Woodstock is just a cash cow for companies and bands now. Do you really think they care about love and peace *that* much? Do you think they'd put on the show for free w/the bands working for free in the name of peace and love? Na, I don't. But then again, I'm just evil that way. :-P --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 08:53:39 -0500 > > Oh my god! I have to go now! Morrissey!!! I love Morrissey! AH!!!!! Oh my > god! > > Okay, I'm okay. Wow, now I really have to go. I hope it's on a weekend so I can > talk my bf into going. *sigh* > > I know this is a MOBY list but does any one on here like Morrissey? *sigh* He's > so hot, too bad he probably does't like girls but I've heard he also doesn't like > boys. But who can tell. :-) Gee, is he still a virgin? > Well, I"m a huge Smiths fan...and I like a lot of Morrissey's solo stuff...but none of it ever really impressed me like the Smiths... Daniel "How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 14:53:48 +0100 Well, Your Arsenal was pretty good. At least I think that's what it's called. It had tracks like Spring-Heeled Jim and Speedway on. And the wonderfully named Baz Boorer playing... Still, The Smiths totally had it. In the late 80's, when I was doing something of a goth phase, they were about the only interesting indie band. Shame they'd split up already then. Ian -----Original Message----- Sent: 25 August 1999 14:54 > > Oh my god! I have to go now! Morrissey!!! I love Morrissey! AH!!!!! Oh my > god! > > Okay, I'm okay. Wow, now I really have to go. I hope it's on a weekend so I can > talk my bf into going. *sigh* > > I know this is a MOBY list but does any one on here like Morrissey? *sigh* He's > so hot, too bad he probably does't like girls but I've heard he also doesn't like > boys. But who can tell. :-) Gee, is he still a virgin? > Well, I"m a huge Smiths fan...and I like a lot of Morrissey's solo stuff...but none of it ever really impressed me like the Smiths... Daniel "How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:05:10 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he had some great solo moments. Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet, oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth people I know, quite like Animal Rights. God, whatever happened to Fields of the Nephilim? - I thought they were brilliant, especially live! They should try and get back together. TMB On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:53:48 +0100 Greening Ian wrote: > Well, Your Arsenal was pretty good. At least I think that's what it's > called. It had tracks like Spring-Heeled Jim and Speedway on. And the > wonderfully named Baz Boorer playing... > > Still, The Smiths totally had it. In the late 80's, when I was doing > something of a goth phase, they were about the only interesting indie band. > Shame they'd split up already then. > > Ian > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:16:12 +0100 The Neff? Not that's going back a bit. If memory serves, Carl McKoy (singer and Darth vader noises) split from the band, and set up as the Neffilim (or some such). The band carried on under a different name. Apparently both were shite. Ian -----Original Message----- Sent: 25 August 1999 15:05 The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he had some great solo moments. Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet, oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth people I know, quite like Animal Rights. God, whatever happened to Fields of the Nephilim? - I thought they were brilliant, especially live! They should try and get back together. TMB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:19:54 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an embarrassing phase you went through? I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to all the trend-setters out there.... TMB On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:16:12 +0100 Greening Ian wrote: > The Neff? Not that's going back a bit. If memory serves, Carl McKoy (singer > and Darth vader noises) split from the band, and set up as the Neffilim (or > some such). The band carried on under a different name. > > Apparently both were shite. > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Beecher [mailto:T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk] > Sent: 25 August 1999 15:05 > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! > > > The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he > had some great solo moments. > > Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet, > oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth > people I know, quite like Animal Rights. > > God, whatever happened to Fields of the Nephilim? - I > thought they were brilliant, especially live! They should > try and get back together. > > TMB > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:36:14 +0100 Looking back now, goth was a slightly embarrassing phase. Still, it was fun though. Heroes? The Sisters, obviously. They always seemed to have the post-modern irony/sense of humour thing pretty much down. The Neff & Bauhaus etc always seemed to take it seriously... Lets face it, having odd hair and wearing a lot of black (not good in summer) was a little silly. Mind you, it was as good a reaction to an all boys boarding school as was available at the time. Maybe 10 years and liberalised gun laws later we'd have been wearing black trenchcoats and calling ourselves a mafia... Not good. Who else was there? Early Nine Inch Nails were very cool. The 12" of Down In It came into range and was bloody marvellous. Still, the above and a mate who played lots of acid house tapes got me into techno, and hence Moby. For what it's worth, the whole goth thing rather stopped for me when I went to University, and discovered that life could be fun. You know, going out with your mates without attempting to retain that impenetrable facade, finding a woman who actually liked you, that sort of thing. I like to think I'm a fairly well adjusted individual now. Oh yes. I think that there are a fair amount of bands who were/are influenced by the whole goth thing, without wearing the black and having pretensions. The God Machine, Rico, Vast, etc. And the Prodigy to a certain extent. And the Sisters proved that you don't need a drummer! Simplified life immensely later on. Much Love, Ian -----Original Message----- Sent: 25 August 1999 15:20 Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an embarrassing phase you went through? I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to all the trend-setters out there.... TMB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:50:20 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) I don't know, I thought the Neff and Bauhaus, were taking the piss as well, okay, agreed the Sisters were having more of a laugh. Personally, I couldn't wear a lot of black in summer, but I don't see anything wrong with odd hair (sometimes it looked quite 'cool') - give me odd hair any day, rather than the mutant Manchester-scene mops of the early 90s - now that looked silly. Everyone to their own style, I suppose. I had great fun as a goth, and when I got into punk, and I still do, so life's what you make it.... Moby, now what happened to him....? TMB On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:36:14 +0100 Greening Ian wrote: > Looking back now, goth was a slightly embarrassing phase. Still, it was fun > though. > > Heroes? The Sisters, obviously. They always seemed to have the post-modern > irony/sense of humour thing pretty much down. The Neff & Bauhaus etc always > seemed to take it seriously... Lets face it, having odd hair and wearing a > lot of black (not good in summer) was a little silly. Mind you, it was as > good a reaction to an all boys boarding school as was available at the time. > Maybe 10 years and liberalised gun laws later we'd have been wearing black > trenchcoats and calling ourselves a mafia... Not good. > > Who else was there? Early Nine Inch Nails were very cool. The 12" of Down In > It came into range and was bloody marvellous. Still, the above and a mate > who played lots of acid house tapes got me into techno, and hence Moby. > > For what it's worth, the whole goth thing rather stopped for me when I went > to University, and discovered that life could be fun. You know, going out > with your mates without attempting to retain that impenetrable facade, > finding a woman who actually liked you, that sort of thing. I like to think > I'm a fairly well adjusted individual now. Oh yes. > > I think that there are a fair amount of bands who were/are influenced by the > whole goth thing, without wearing the black and having pretensions. The God > Machine, Rico, Vast, etc. And the Prodigy to a certain extent. > > And the Sisters proved that you don't need a drummer! Simplified life > immensely later on. > > Much Love, > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Beecher [mailto:T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk] > Sent: 25 August 1999 15:20 > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! > > > Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the > split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an > embarrassing phase you went through? > > I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to > all the trend-setters out there.... > > TMB > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 16:03:10 +0100 -----Original Message----- Sent: 25 August 1999 15:50 I don't know, I thought the Neff and Bauhaus, were taking the piss as well, okay, agreed the Sisters were having more of a laugh. Guess you had more sensitive irony detectors than me. Still, I only saw the Sisters live, not the other two. Personally, I couldn't wear a lot of black in summer, but I don't see anything wrong with odd hair (sometimes it looked quite 'cool') - give me odd hair any day, rather than the mutant Manchester-scene mops of the early 90s - now that looked silly. Everyone to their own style, I suppose. My approach to the interesting goth hairstyle problem was just to not get it cut. As you can imagine I ended up closer to an Old English Sheepdog than anything else. I had great fun as a goth, and when I got into punk, and I still do, so life's what you make it.... Hear hear... Moby, now what happened to him....? TMB On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:36:14 +0100 Greening Ian wrote: > Looking back now, goth was a slightly embarrassing phase. Still, it was fun > though. > > Heroes? The Sisters, obviously. They always seemed to have the post-modern > irony/sense of humour thing pretty much down. The Neff & Bauhaus etc always > seemed to take it seriously... Lets face it, having odd hair and wearing a > lot of black (not good in summer) was a little silly. Mind you, it was as > good a reaction to an all boys boarding school as was available at the time. > Maybe 10 years and liberalised gun laws later we'd have been wearing black > trenchcoats and calling ourselves a mafia... Not good. > > Who else was there? Early Nine Inch Nails were very cool. The 12" of Down In > It came into range and was bloody marvellous. Still, the above and a mate > who played lots of acid house tapes got me into techno, and hence Moby. > > For what it's worth, the whole goth thing rather stopped for me when I went > to University, and discovered that life could be fun. You know, going out > with your mates without attempting to retain that impenetrable facade, > finding a woman who actually liked you, that sort of thing. I like to think > I'm a fairly well adjusted individual now. Oh yes. > > I think that there are a fair amount of bands who were/are influenced by the > whole goth thing, without wearing the black and having pretensions. The God > Machine, Rico, Vast, etc. And the Prodigy to a certain extent. > > And the Sisters proved that you don't need a drummer! Simplified life > immensely later on. > > Much Love, > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Beecher [mailto:T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk] > Sent: 25 August 1999 15:20 > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: RE: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! > > > Maybe that's why I haven't heard much about them, since the > split. So who were your goth heroes, or is goth an > embarrassing phase you went through? > > I thought and still think some goth was great. Sorry, to > all the trend-setters out there.... > > TMB > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 08:44:07 -0700 > >The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he > >had some great solo moments. > Well, I think they sound the same. Probably because Morrissey wrote just about everything (he probably didn't write the music all though it's possible since it sounds very much the same). > > >Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet, > >oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth > >people I know, quite like Animal Rights. > I think that would be kinda cool. I like hardcore goths from a distance. A lot of my friends are goths. Very weird. :-) I think MOBY should. "A New Dawn Fades" does count does it? I know a lot of goths listen to Joy Division. > --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY.ORG FAN PAGE Date: 25 Aug 1999 09:41:02 -0600 Rob Skipworth wrote: > Hey Damian (and the rest of the list) > What do you think about a page on moby.org for us to upload pictures??? > It sounds like several people have taken cameras to the shows and it would > be cool to post all of our pictures of and with moby up there for all the > others to see. I would be happy to post concert pictures that people have. Just put them on the Internet somewhere (preferably an FTP site, but WWW is alright) and email me their location, specifying that you would like them posted on moby.org. Sorry, but I don't know how to make a web page to upload pictures. I'm just a novice with scripting. Also, if you've emailed me personally and haven't received a reply, it's because 1: your message is probably buried in hundreds of mobility posts (HHOS), and 2: I'm lazy and don't reply to my email as well as I should. Just send me another email to remind me to wake up and reply to you. Again, sorry. Daniel Damian moby.org not to be confused with mobility-list-owner ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: RE: (mobility) well, i maybe a sellout, but at least i don't use and abues bad oldies!! Date: 25 Aug 1999 8:59:8 -0700 (PDT) the GAP is certainly not a charity! i have decided that i am very afraid of the people in those ads... they all have these vacant blank stares -- the world needs to see what the GAP is doing to people!! i can see the headlines now-- 'american corporation brainwashes youth, forcing them to purchase large quantities of corduroy pants and vests and sing bad songs from the 60's, 70's and 80's!' please also take note that the same people who brought you 'everybody in cords' and 'everybody in vests' brought you 'old navy! old navy! old navy performance fleece!' SAVE YOURSELVES!!!! SAVE YOURSELVES BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!! ---kimbalina wrote:--- > >I agree with that. Very scary. Hey didn't someone say that MOBY was going to do a Gap comercial? Hrmph. That's scary. But, MOBY >tends to like to donate cash to charity so that's good. :-) Whatever helps is ok by me (not that I really matter :-) > >--kimby > > > ----JHolland wrote:------- >> >Okay-- I'm not sure if this has ANYTHING to do with selling out... and least of all Moby... >> >> >BUT -- what is with these GAP ads?? They are sooo wacky (and not a little bit scary!)!! 'mellow yellow???''dress you up in >my love??' >> >> #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Holland Subject: Re: (mobility) my problem w/ bodyrock Date: 25 Aug 1999 9:9:29 -0700 (PDT) On a semi-related note: as i would really like to take part in this discussion, i really would like to see the video... does anyone know if bodyrock made it onto TRL yesturday? i tuned in at video #8 ... and saw neither heads or tails of moby (except for a brief moment in an add for the video music awards)... what do you got for me people? VOTE! --J ---Io6032@aol.com wrote:--- >in response to all the stuff that is being said right now. > >i have no clue where i stand on the whole world embrace moby / stay >underground and tight with thte fans. i see it from both points. i wish more >people knew who moby was when i mentioned his name, but i've noticed that a >lot more people are getting to know him, not from bodyrock, but older stuff >that they just come in contact with becasue their music tastes are expanding. > >my problem with the bodyrock is that it seems like an entirely a fatboy slim >rip. i know that its been said that bodyrock, wasn't written after the whole >bigbeat obsession, but even still its not a particularly great moby song. >imho it kinda sucks mucho. i think there is was better stuff on play. and >quite honestly fatboy slim does bigbeat better. the video just takes the >fatboy slim comparisons to the next level. lets be honest how many when we >first saw the video said "hey isn't this praise you???". i mean really its >done in the almost exact same style. thats my problem. i wish moby could've >at leats done something different with the vid. > >riz >please don't flame lets discuss instead :) > #*I #.....# I*#.....#*I #.....# I*#.....#*I # find it amusing. fight the power. ________________________________________________________ ____ Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dredmond@email.boisestate.edu (Daniel Redmond) Subject: RE: (mobility) well, i maybe a sellout, but at least i don't use and abues bad oldies!! Date: 25 Aug 1999 10:21:21 -0400 There is an easier way - just don't shop there. I've noticed the whole blank stares look - wasn't that called "heroin chic" a few years ago? daniel "It's been 3 days since that awful feud between the KKK and that gay Jewish black dude." - Weird Al Yankovic (is it thursday yet, I really want to go to that concert!) >i have decided that i am very afraid of the people in those ads... they all have these vacant blank stares -- the world needs to see what the GAP is doing to people!! i can see the headlines now-- 'american corporation brainwashes youth, forcing them to purchase large quantities of corduroy pants and vests and sing bad songs from the 60's, 70's and 80's!' > >please also take note that the same people who brought you 'everybody in cords' and 'everybody in vests' brought you 'old navy! old navy! old navy performance fleece!' > >SAVE YOURSELVES!!!! SAVE YOURSELVES BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) my problem w/ MTV & TRL (bodyrock) Date: 25 Aug 1999 12:33:46 -0400 > On a semi-related note: as i would really like to take part in > this discussion, i really would like to see the video... does > anyone know if bodyrock made it onto TRL yesturday? i tuned in at > video #8 ... and saw neither heads or tails of moby (except for > a brief moment in an add for the video music awards)... Nope he didnt make it on. And i doubt i'll ever watch TRL again. im tired of watching those New Kids On The Block people. blargh! and even when a cool song might be played they have annoying people come on right in front of the video, "hello yeah i'd like to request ricky martin because hes neato!?" and then they screech so high u must change the channel! ok nuff from me eric gold@netrox.net bored? visit http://www.tonematrix.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) my problem w/ MTV & TRL (bodyrock) Date: 25 Aug 1999 12:45:15 -0400 let me point out that when i said they put on a cool song and someone interrupts, damn it i didnt mean ricky martin is cool! sure hes livin la vida loca, but thats not a video im happy to see. thank you and have a nice day. eric > Nope he didnt make it on. > And i doubt i'll ever watch TRL again. im tired of watching those > New Kids On The Block people. blargh! > and even when a cool song might be played they have annoying people > come on right in front of the video, "hello yeah i'd like to request > ricky martin because hes neato!?" and then they screech so high u must > change the channel! > > ok nuff from me > > eric > gold@netrox.net > > bored? > visit http://www.tonematrix.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Child Date: 25 Aug 1999 19:21:53 +0200 >Also did moby put anymore on Voodoo Child besides End of Everything besides >the Dog Heaven Single. like and Album before?????? > >I love End of Everthing. it's so personal I think ....... Other Voodoo Child releases: - Demons/Horses [2 track single] each track consists of more than 20 mins. of hard pounding acid techno... - Higher [single] more techno here. The CD has an ambient bonus track. - Voodoo Child [single] his first release under the name Voodoo Child - Voodoo Child Remixes [single] some hard techno remixes and a bonus track. It's strange that most people think of peaceful melodic music on EOE when someone mentiones the name Voodoo Child. Before EOE, Voodoo Child was used for all Moby's hard techno songs & remixes. If Moby released EOE under the alter ego 'Barracuda' it would have made more sense to me, this used to be his alter ego for a more groovy relaxing kind of music... Bart (<>,,<>) the little alien np: Rubettes - Sugar Baby Love ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sailin' On also on an European release?? Date: 25 Aug 1999 19:22:47 +0200 Daniel Cerman wrote: >Moby's cover of "Sailin' On" is slow and very nice -- in a "When It's >Cold I'd Like To Die" style. I never heard the original track, but I >like Moby's version. Can't get enough of those pianos & strings. :) I think I'm also going to get a copy myself! I also LOVE "Straight to Hell" by Moby & Heather Nova on the Clash tribute album... Does anybody know if there's also a European release of that "Bad Brains tribute" CD? Bart (<>,,<>) the little alien np: Jon Secada - Just another day ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 25 Aug 1999 19:22:27 +0200 jj fish wrote: >I like the bassline and chorus for a BSB song, but I hate the meaningless >lyrics (talking about romance rather than >Love). So I don't buy anything by them. Yep, me too! I love the melody of Quit Playing Games, but the rest of the song (lyrics) don't do much for me.... Moby's instrumental song Patient Love says 1000 x more about love than all the lyrics of all BSB songs together.... just my modest opinion though. Bart (<>,,<>) the little alien np: Eric Clapton - Layla ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) the naked truth.... Date: 25 Aug 1999 19:23:23 +0200 Here's a little Moby quote I found in our tv-guide: -------------------- .... Moby said to be amazed by the fact that radio stations play his song (Body Rock) so often. "In the early days, 'alternative' still was alternative," Moby said. "Oh well, I'm a strange person. For instance, I like to dance on stage naked. Not to scare the members of the band, but because it makes me feel so free!" -------------------- Oh well, the best artists are a bit nutty or strange... Although I would probably never do it myself, I can immagine that running on stage naked can be pretty liberating! I sure hope Moby doesn't catch a cold while dancing naked... :) little alien (<>,,<>) bart keep on dancin' (be it naked or with clothes on) np: Level 42 - Lessons in love ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 14:06:56 EDT YES Coachella is on a weekend. and NO I don't think Morrissey is a virgin, though I agree on the thought that he is cool and doesn't like either girls or boys. Oh well...it still doesn't keep the psycho fans from assaulting him on stage, taking his shirt & tearing it to shreds, poor guy... And *KIM*! Check out the website for once! The list of artists is HUGE!!! www.coachella.com!!! Gabriele "I'm a bus driver & I've got amnesia & I've got to get these llamas to school!" - Sifl & Olly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 21:22:08 +0300 At 14:06 25.8.1999 EDT, you wrote: >YES Coachella is on a weekend. >and NO I don't think Morrissey is a virgin, though I agree on the thought >that he is cool and doesn't like either girls or boys. Oh well...it still >doesn't keep the psycho fans from assaulting him on stage, taking his shirt & >tearing it to shreds, poor guy... >And *KIM*! Check out the website for once! The list of artists is HUGE!!! >www.coachella.com!!! >Gabriele >"I'm a bus driver & I've got amnesia >& I've got to get these llamas to school!" - Sifl & Olly > > Hmm. This is discussion list about Moby and I think we should only talk about it. I'm not interested personally about Morrissey or something like that. Remember that we have a lot of subscribers and nobody isn't interested about shitmail like that. Could you send off-topic mails personally, not to the list. Please. -Samu Heinonen- -samuhei@dlc.fi- http://www.saunalahti.fi/~samuhei/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "j. jason Lau" Subject: (mobility) new to list Date: 25 Aug 1999 13:19:11 MDT Hey. I'm new to the Mobility mailing list and am emailing my info as per request. :-) Name: j. jason Lau Age 22 The Moby CDs i have: Everything is Wrong, Move (my first!), Animal Rights, Ambient, Moby, Play, Rare, The End Of Everything (Voodoo Child), I Like to Score, Early Underground, Sven Vath/Moby Mixmag Volume 2 Live, and i'm supposed to be getting Everything Is Wrong: Mixed and Remixed, Bodyrock and the Honey single (they've been on order forever!) but i have yet to receive those. As i mentioned above, my first Moby CD was Move, purchased through Columbia House music club. I just thought i'd give it a listen and soon find myself buying the rest of his CDs as they came out, plus slowly building up the back-collection, too. I'm a HUGE fan; he could release of belching and farting and i'd be first in line to buy it. :-) Granted, i'd hope he doesn't do this... Mostly right now i'm into (good) techno, industrial, music of that sort. My favorites include Coil, Christ Analogue, Tool, VAST, and other various artists; pretty much anything from pop to thrash. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I'm sorry, misunderstanding I guess Date: 25 Aug 1999 16:29:18 EDT First of all I was just talking about Coachella (in which MOBY will appear, the BIG #1 REASON why I am going). Second I got the impression from some of the top 10 lists on "why to be on mobility" that we could discuss some other things, but of course always somehow tied to MOBY. I've enjoyed some of the odd tangents that people go on (the Gap ads, goth music, BSB) and thought - as a nebbie - that it was ok. Someone asked something about Morrissey so I answered. My bad I guess... Third, I can understand without the insulting language, so save that for the thick-headed. Love & salsa nevertheless, Gabriele ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) no sellout!!!!!!! Date: 25 Aug 1999 14:05:53 -0700 (PDT) stop it! stop saying Moby sold out! stop it or i'll kill myself! you asked for it!!!! the eyeball fell for three days until...... (thats sum python for yall) anyway THANK YOU WHOEVER IS PRO-SIFL AND OLLY HERE!!!! WE NEED SIFL AND OLLY TO BE BACK ON JUST AS MUCH AS WE NEEDD MOBY ON MTV!!!! we'll have to take one day, say friday, where EVERYBODY just sits and votes for MOBY for like a whole hour. seriously, we need this guy on tv! and everybody put in yr message PUT SIFL & OLLY BACK ON like I always do! for all you folks who like S&O, join Sockheads at onelist.com its THE place for S&O fans! and hey, theyre twice as big as MOBILITY! while i'm here, i just wanna say that i FUCKING HATE TOM GREEN!!!!! has anyone seen that video he did? its a stupid ass song (as in a stupid song about his ass) that was ripped off of howard stern 5 years ago!!!! seriously, how can people tolerate this!!! Sifl & Olly have 80 music videos on tap, and they are all better than this crap! how can you beat LASER EYES!?!?!? or UNITED STATES OF WHUTEVA!?!? or HEART ATTACKS!?!? at least there are SOME S&O heads here. dont worry, they are making a third season, but some encouragement would be nice. AND FACE IT: Moby on MTV would not be bad. even if PLAY winds up in used cd stores accross america, at least he sold some records, right? this happened on the AFX list when "Come To Daddy" got some surprise airplay. where's 12 Angry Viewers when we need it!?!?!? "will somebody get the poo off my bum!?!?" Tom Fucking Green "i go down to the beach, and I see Kiki, and she says 'hey arent you that guy' and I'm like YEAH WHUTEVA!!! I see Officer Leroy, and he says 'didn't i tell you...' and I'm like YEAH WHUTEVA!!!! Cuz this is my United States of Whuteva!!!!!!! And this is my united states of whuteva!!!!!!" -Olly "Even Bob Marley cover bands have heart attacks"-S&O np:Alec Empire Limited Editions 90-94 (just got this, awesome! not DHR tho) === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 14:30:20 -0700 I=2E=2E=2E=2E=2Eumm=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2EAM a dad=2E Deemo np: SFA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Tonight in Chicago Date: 25 Aug 1999 15:07:26 PDT I managed to score a state ID during lunch today, so I'll be the Metro tonight! I'll be going with Tom Wroble, who used to post here a little bit and made some Winamp skins that weren't quite as good as Bart's a while back. (sorry Tom) Tom's skinny as a rail, black hair, dark complexion. I am of average weight (about 220) for my height, 6', and I'll be wearing black slacks and some brand new tan Wolverine workboots. I have long blond/brown hair that reaches past my shoulders, and the sides and back of my head are shaved. (almost, it's little outgrown right now, since it needs a razoring) I'm not sure yet, but I think I'll be wearing a white t-shirt with a horizontal blue/black/red swirl bar across the chest that says MOBY in grey letters. (I'm gonna be THAT guy, hehe) If not, a long-sleeved dark grey cotton. Look for me. I'll call out MOBILITY during quiet moments and see who's heads turn. I think I remember your description, Brad, are you going to be at this show, too? Sorry to all of those to whom this doesn't apply. :) -Steve :) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 18:45:37 -0400 >Hmm. This is discussion list about Moby and I think we should only talk > about it. I'm not interested personally about Morrissey or something like > that. Remember that we have a lot of subscribers and nobody isn't > interested about shitmail like that. let me translate that into "nice nice". please dont send offtopic mail, and if u happen to, at least change the subject, cuz i kept thinking this message was about my dad! peets eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) GEtting over ourselves Date: 25 Aug 1999 19:02:14 EDT just to say that by getting over ourselves i refer to unneccesary drama and "vampiric" behaviour and you KNOW negative behaviour is all too common "gods place is in the world but the world is not gods place" -sinead oconnor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) the naked truth.... Date: 25 Aug 1999 19:05:41 EDT NAKED?!?! purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Sailin' On Date: 25 Aug 1999 20:30:33 EDT Excuse me here, but is it just me, or did anyone notice that Mtv ruins bands? I'm sorry but I would like to keep Moby kind of in the shade.... Do you see what it did to FatBoy Slim? Over playing only leads to people getting sick of really good bands. I do not want that to happen to Moby. In my 13 years of being on this earth, I've learned this. I just dont want Moby blown up bigger than he should be. I hate Mvt and TRL is the stupidist show I've ever seen. ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) Tonight in Chicago Date: 25 Aug 1999 20:46:32 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- > Brad, are you going to be at this show, too? > Well, steve, you've probably figured it out by now, but, no. I'm not going to be at the Chicago show tonight. I hope you have a great time though. I AM going to the St Louis Show the saturday before Labor Day. Rob's thinking about making it up for that one (and Kansas City the night before), so you should make the drive -- very cheap flight -- down. Talk soon. BSC a/k/a "Not THAT Guy" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 25 Aug 1999 22:08:28 EDT Is it really pertinent to the people on this list that MOBY remain true to his "hardcore" audience? Is it essential that he avoid becoming mainstream or commercial in order to remain relevant or important to his "true fans"? I think it's ridiculous that people have a hard time accepting that MOBY stands a chance at commercial success. These people are naive to assume that he wants or desires to stay alternative or fringe, or however else you want to categorize him. Like all musicians on a label of any kind, MOBY is striving to expand his audience. In order to expand his audience and earn a bigger fan base, MOBY has to appeal to the "teenyboppers" or other music "impurists". When people decry his expanding audience and his adoption of "mainstream commercial potential," they prove that they are not loyal to the music. They show how fickle and narrow-minded they are, something they find deplorable in "boy band" fans. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 25 Aug 1999 22:59:58 -0400 Trousers wrote: > > Dave, you seem to know everything - what lottery nos > should i pick next week and what is this life thing > all about? 6-12-22-25-38-46 (trust me) > Peace - a concept > Time - another concept > > Love - now there's something real Time has shown that anything that can be conceptualized can be created to a certain extent. PLus in the history of tthe world there have been many a year of peace, just no one notices or writes about peace, only about war. And love is a concept like any other, I dedicate my life to it but I don't always achieve it in its purest form. And trust me on the numbers. dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 25 Aug 1999 23:02:13 -0400 > I know this is a MOBY list but does any one on here like Morrissey? *sigh* Supposedly the Smiths are getting back together and joining the dinosaur tour. dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses (Moby Overexposure)! Date: 25 Aug 1999 20:08:34 PDT >Is it really pertinent to the people on this list that MOBY remain >true to >his "hardcore" audience? Is it essential that he avoid >becoming mainstream >or commercial in order to remain relevant or >important to his "true fans"? >I think it's ridiculous that people >have a hard time accepting that MOBY >stands a chance at commercial >success. What I'm worried about is, like said in a previous letter, that MTV, and the music industry basically, finds something popular, overexposes and imitates it, then moves on to the next fad. I think that Moby should do whatever he wants--selling out is a comprimising of the artist's personal values or rules he/she sets down before stardom....(or somethnig like that :)) I don't think Moby will screw us or go "pop" or waterdown his music/message, but what I'm worried about is getting Moby overexposed, like Norman Cook, who I feel bad for in a way because I'm sick of most of his stuff. That's my two sense. CURRENTLY PLAYING: TOWERS OF DUB ORB http://www.mp3.com/CorrugatedFunk "Excuse me, what did I say? GET OUT OF MY LAB" -SpeakMAN "Pi is the loneliest number." -Me "I've never heard any music like this in my life, and if I have, I don't know where I've heard it." -The Orb ambient, techno, dub, classical, minimalist, satire, world Defending the Universe from the Threat of the Dream Eaters _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses (Moby Overexposure)! Date: 25 Aug 1999 23:20:14 -0400 jj fish wrote: > I don't think Moby will screw us or go "pop" Actually, he did mention that he did want to do a pop record. more power to him. dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses (Moby Overexposure)! Date: 25 Aug 1999 20:38:27 PDT Err, I meant pop in the "watered down" or "shallow" sense. I don't think Moby will go so far as to write Backstreet Boy/Britney Spears songs..... More power to him if he wants to go Pop in the broader sense of the word, but I really think he'll bring his own beliefs and"edge" to everything he does. He's Moby. I trust him:) >From: david chamberlain >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses (Moby Overexposure)! >Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:20:14 -0400 > >jj fish wrote: > > > I don't think Moby will screw us or go "pop" > >Actually, he did mention that he did want to do a pop record. more >power to him. > >dave > http://www.mp3.com/CorrugatedFunk "Excuse me, what did I say? GET OUT OF MY LAB" -SpeakMAN "Pi is the loneliest number." -Me "I've never heard any music like this in my life, and if I have, I don't know where I've heard it." -The Orb ambient, techno, dub, classical, minimalist, satire, world Defending the Universe from the Threat of the Dream Eaters _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) Sailin' On Date: 26 Aug 1999 00:03:52 -0400 > Do you see > what it did to FatBoy Slim? Over playing only leads to people > getting sick of > really good bands. I do not want that to happen to Moby. In my 13 > years of > being on this earth, I've learned this. I just dont want Moby > blown up bigger > than he should be. I hate Mvt and TRL is the stupidist show I've > ever seen. > > ~Felicia In that case dont watch MTV. I try not to as much as possible, and look at me i still like Fatboy Slim. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) Moby on Conan mp3 Date: 25 Aug 1999 21:11:18 -0500 Turn down your volume before playing this, it was recorded with the levels way too high even though it's not terribly distorted: -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) tiny fellow Bart wrote Date: 26 Aug 1999 07:54:45 +0200 > If Moby released EOE under the alter ego 'Barracuda' it would have made > more sense to me, this used to be his alter ego for a more groovy relaxing > kind of music... > > Bart (<>,,<>) the little alien wow man. space index-guy you must know everything, you're the WAREhouse of Moby rareities But heh, you said Barracuda's did ye? I know 1 cd by The Barracudas which i bought by mistake not to forget! i really thought it was a Surf-album, but it was '82 Punk, and I was AMAZED by the Surf quality of that sort of Punk The Barracuda (a sort of chevrolet i think or Caddillac?) a fish for cruising... dont you guys know the Barracudas? Brittish band from the Punk area? it's Damn 60's stuff but 80's recorded! wauw that BART mentioned that, maybe Moby has that cd of the Barracudas wouldn't surprise me I sold it to the record shop 5 guilders, when I was poor, but i want to have it back! The Barracudas dont forget that name! it's fabulous surf-punk! extreme Byrds-quotes and all that! Bart! do you have that? BARRACUDAS! 1982 "I can't pronounce that, Baccarudas..?) [no it was a Plymouth, now i remember! f*k what a memory! The Plymouth Barracudah ah what a car!) ---- hey Bart, it's my birthday, send me a tape with some rarities if you would i'd like it. Kees Maxhinistenstrxxt #9 1541 AH Koog/Zaan Netherlands (heh) send it without DOLBY Bart is the BIGGEST collector, or may be ryu, i forgat, all these stats/// statistics! I want the Utah SAINTS ! Yo, k e e s ' 4 3 -- --------------- "In logic there is no coincidence" L. Wittgenstein --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) tapes all over, Date: 26 Aug 1999 08:23:50 +0200 Mo's maybe 6 or 8 people got a tape with the boomboomsatelites and i dont want to hear thank-you or such compulsions but all i like about sending tapes is people hear to say: hey, wow, it rocks, and that is the biggest present yo can get on any day but yo' birthday especial, so now i want to ask yo Mob-headz, ARE you actually sending tapes? Because sending tapes is the best thing you can do with yo waste-money, which is all a waste, if you guys (& dolls too) knew, if you sleeping fooks KNEW how motherdreaming many tapes are flowing in aircrafts over the oceans of the world right NOW, at this very moment, tapes filled with thrilling guitarsolo's by FZ, i wonder, if you freaks realize how important that is, to build that database of UN-officially recorded Moby-stuff, but i wonder, why, because i hear yo kids not talking about exclusive hi-tech audience-recording techniques, if you guys knew, how EARLY FZ-freaks started to record EVERY littllee fart that fz let on stage, and these tapes are still MOVING all over this Earth ..that's one of the reasons why the sun still shines... Now Playin': BLACK NAPKINS, Llublijana 1975 CD, FZ plays FZ recorded by Dweezil 1996 kees -- --------------- "In logic there is no coincidence" L. Wittgenstein --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) 44 Date: 26 Aug 1999 07:30:20 +0200 someone wrote, earlier: > like you've been around all the time, you BELONG > to US... you're part of the Family! > very large family... no bondings though, no > subscriptions... no fees... nothing, just the EARS > Unite np: dead moon - cant get a fix on you (80's punk] kees'44 -- --------------- "In logic there is no coincidence" L. Wittgenstein --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Sailin' On Date: 26 Aug 1999 03:51:34 EDT I just ment, when ever I hear Fatboy Slim on the raido, I turn it off, because I had hurd it about 12 times on all the other stations. Just overplaying is bad. ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Leroy O'briant" Subject: (mobility) selling out... Date: 26 Aug 1999 11:55:44 +0200 Moby is never going to sell out. Society takes what it finds different and intergrates it to keep living. The same old stuff gets boring. if you call being famous selling out then you've got to check your self. Selling out is conforming to the hip. He's not going to conform, society is....... I goined the military, i know trust me.. i did it to keep going, not to sell out. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 26 Aug 1999 12:12:53 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:44:07 -0700 kimbalina wrote: > > >The Smiths were definitely better than Morrissey, though he > > >had some great solo moments. > > > > Well, I think they sound the same. Probably because Morrissey wrote just about > everything (he probably didn't write the music all though it's possible since it > sounds very much the same). I'm not denying Morrissey is talented, but the music's never been the same since Johnny Marr and the other band members left. Johnny Marr really made the music for The Smiths in my opinion and Morrissey ended up being a right stuck-up arsehole to the rest of the group. He's still good at what he does though. > > > > > >Speaking of goth - that's one style Moby hasn't tried yet, > > >oh yeah, and acid jazz. Mind you a lot of die-hard goth > > >people I know, quite like Animal Rights. > > > > I think that would be kinda cool. I like hardcore goths from a distance. A lot > of my friends are goths. Very weird. :-) I think MOBY should. "A New Dawn > Fades" does count does it? I know a lot of goths listen to Joy Division. > I suppose New Dawn Fades is the closest he's come to goth as has certain heavier, slower tunes on Animal Rights. That Bodyrock re-mix by Rae and Christian, has an acid jazz feel to it, but I think it would be excellent if Moby himself did more of that sort of stuff too. I love those funky guitars and piano riff in Bodyrock and the tune, I like to Score - that pimp sound. > > > > --kimby > > > TMB ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) I'm sorry, misunderstanding I guess Date: 26 Aug 1999 12:20:03 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Hey, it's under control, don't worry the topic fascists always pull us into shape. Peace, love and harmony, brothers and sisters. TMB On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:29:18 EDT Arcya@aol.com wrote: > First of all I was just talking about Coachella (in which MOBY will appear, > the BIG #1 REASON why I am going). > Second I got the impression from some of the top 10 lists on "why to be on > mobility" that we could discuss some other things, but of course always > somehow tied to MOBY. I've enjoyed some of the odd tangents that people go > on (the Gap ads, goth music, BSB) and thought - as a nebbie - that it was ok. > Someone asked something about Morrissey so I answered. My bad I guess... > Third, I can understand without the insulting language, so save that for the > thick-headed. > Love & salsa nevertheless, > Gabriele > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) selling out... Date: 26 Aug 1999 05:59:18 EDT PREACH ON!!!!!!!! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) selling out... Date: 26 Aug 1999 04:40:57 -0700 Felicia, are you going to see moby? have you seen him yet? what's the good word? :) laura! -- And now for some feedback: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 Date: 26 Aug 1999 06:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Moby will be known alto more now, if you were watching HBO yesterday you would have caught Moby talking about his new show which showcases certin bands. So there you go. On the rest of the bullshit that comes into my mailbox, I think that Moby should "Sellout" to the fullest, if it makes him happy and he can push out more albums and do bigger and longer tours, Im all for it, granted I love the guy and all of his music but if more money is the key for something better Im all for it. Selling out, Jeesh do you people know who Moby is??? Bow your heads in shame. Bri --- jj fish wrote: > You're probably right about the autograph thing, and > I probably would feel > violated somehow if Moby were mainstream, but on the > other hand it might > enlighten some people on the values of REAL music (i > sure sound pretentious, > don't i? :) ). > > I'd like Fatboy Slim a lot more if he weren't > popular :) === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 26 Aug 1999 06:38:19 -0700 > >I'm not denying Morrissey is talented, but the music's > >never been the same since Johnny Marr and the other band > >members left. Johnny Marr really made the music for The > >Smiths in my opinion and Morrissey ended up being a right > >stuck-up arsehole to the rest of the group. He's still good > >at what he does though. I think that's part of Morrissey's beauty though. :-) He's brooding but he's strangly and morbidly joyful. He's this tempermental queen and prince (all persona wise ofcourse). Ah, I love his persona to peices. He reminds me of many gay male friends and guys I volunteered with at the community center. Very sexy in that he's untouchable but so desirable, stuck up but friendly. (persona wise) *sigh* Every girls dream. :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Dude... Date: 26 Aug 1999 06:46:48 -0700 Oooops, The below message I thought I sent to ppl privatly but I forgot to take out the list address and add another address. :-) Sorry listies! But to make this a MOBY post, Ppl keep saying "Oh, well you don't really know who MOBY is....." Well, damn right I don't! I've seen him in concert and bought his records and talked to him briefly once. No, I don't know a g*dd**n thing about him personally. I know I like his music, I know I have opinions about his music and general things relating to him but as far as the man himself, I don't know a damn thing. I didn't ask any indepth questions for my own personal knowledge. I would never consider myself to "know" someone unless it was a personal relationship which involved talking and sharing information about one's self. You're right, I don't know him and I'm sure I probably never will. I think some ppl get way carried away w/ the obsession, thinking that they truly know something spiritual about someone that they in fact no nothing personally about. I know my chosen religious preference, I know myself, etc, but I do not know MOBY. --kimby PS...B*tch mode now turned off. :-) Sorry. I love you all! *hugs* PS2...Please don't kill me. :-P kimbalina wrote: > > >I'm not denying Morrissey is talented, but the music's > > >never been the same since Johnny Marr and the other band > > >members left. Johnny Marr really made the music for The > > >Smiths in my opinion and Morrissey ended up being a right > > >stuck-up arsehole to the rest of the group. He's still good > > >at what he does though. > > I think that's part of Morrissey's beauty though. :-) He's brooding but he's strangly > and morbidly joyful. He's this tempermental queen and prince (all persona wise > ofcourse). Ah, I love his persona to peices. He reminds me of many gay male friends > and guys I volunteered with at the community center. Very sexy in that he's > untouchable but so desirable, stuck up but friendly. (persona wise) *sigh* Every > girls dream. :-) > > --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) my dad can beat your dad up! Date: 26 Aug 1999 14:44:27 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:38:19 -0700 kimbalina wrote: . > > I think that's part of Morrissey's beauty though. :-) He's brooding but he's strangly > and morbidly joyful. He's this tempermental queen and prince (all persona wise > ofcourse). Ah, I love his persona to peices. He reminds me of many gay male friends > and guys I volunteered with at the community center. Very sexy in that he's > untouchable but so desirable, stuck up but friendly. (persona wise) *sigh* Every > girls dream. :-) > > --kimby Yes, I can understand that. Moby is a bit ambiguous, when it comes to sexuality too - well, so he said in the interview I posted a couple of weeks back (just had to make it Moby related for all those Moby-topic purists). Between you and me, I think he does prefer the girlies though. I admire his catholicism (in the universal sense, not institution). Fair enough. TMB > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stegenga, Scott" Subject: (mobility) Moby in the Sun Times Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:07:40 -0500 http://www.suntimes.com/output/rock/dero22.html Nice little interview with our man in the Chicago Sun Times. I'd check this link soon or it may change locations within the site. But Jim DeRogatis is a good interviewer. I almost went to the Chicago gig last night with my date, but unfortunately my 'connections' fell through. No worries for me though. Ive met Moby several times and have seen him live about 5 times now. I'm over it. We just had drinks at The Raw Bar instead. Now I just want to see The Manic Street Preachers when they come to Metro next week. Scott Stegenga Internet Engineer Tunes.com (formerly JAMtv/RollingStone Network) ...same company, more stuff... http://rollingstone.tunes.com http://www.tunes.com http://rollingstone.downbeatjazz.com http://rollingstone.thesource.com http://rollingstone.lycos.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Concert Report: Chicago 5/25 Date: 26 Aug 1999 07:28:09 PDT First but not least, the Boom Booms were fun to see. They did some stuff that reminded me of the Propellerheads. Not exactly my thing, a bit too funk, but entertaining nonetheless. Moby's set was intense, as many of you know. Some highlights were Trouble So Hard, which was somewhat gothic and gloomy with Moby singing (intoning, more like) and the purple lights. James Bond Theme was awesome, and I don't care for the studio cuts of it, either. Something about hearing it live really brought it to life. The rough edges, probably. Same goes for Bodyrock. There was a nice Run On rendition that Moby sang while playing his acoustic. (with full band support) Why Does My Heart was my favorite, just like on Play, and My Weakness made a great opener. During the soundcheck intermission (between acts) they used an unreleased mix of Voodoo Child to do some tests. It was slight reworking of the Poor In NY mix, with the song structure slightly different and vocal sample shorter and a bit more generously triggered. Moby had a fruit show near the end. (I had seen the pineapple earlier and wondered...) He held up the banana and pineapple and Duard has the avacado. Moby told us that the banana and pineapple are friends. (he made them dance a little) He also said that they hate the fucking avacado. He went on to mention that concerts can be educational, too, and that the only vegetables with saturated bat are a kernel (corn, maybe?) and the avacado. At the end of the show, before Thousand, Moby rung out his shirt 6 or 7 times and got mini-floods of sweat to pour out of it. (it's very humid in Chicago right now) After the show I waited outside for Moby. Duard came out first, and I talked to him for a little bit. He's married to Greta, the bassist, and joined up with Moby about 6 weeks ago. Pablo, the previous precussionist extraordinaire, is on tour with Joe Strummond, and probably won't be back, according to Moby. Duard planning to do something of his own in the near future, which he described as tribal industrial, focus on rhythym. I didn't get a chance to talk to Greta, or Scott Frasetto. I was on the far left during the show, so I probably saw Scott come out but didn't recognize him. When Moby came out, I waited patiently for my turn. There were 10-15 others waiting, too. I told him that mobility says 'hello!' and he says 'hi!' back to everybody here. I also said hello for Damian and Daniel, and he told me that he saw you guys in Salt Lake City and Denver, respectively. Play Mixed & Remixed should be coming next spring, Moby told me. "That's the plan." I complimented his choices on Duard (pronounced 'dward, not doo-ard') and Greta, and he said "They're married, you know." (Duard told me beforehand, what a lucky guy!) I gave Moby a hug and thanked him, and he drew me a cool little picture and "-heart icon- Moby" on my Play liner cover. I went home happy, exhausted, and smelly. There's more interesting little bits, I'm sure, and I'll post them if they come to min later. Thanks for reading. -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JSoquet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) cheap tickets special stuff. Date: 26 Aug 1999 11:08:03 EDT I was wondering why doesn't moby give the people on Mobility list and MobyMail free tickets to the shows or at least discounts off or something. that would be cool or he could just release singles that he didn't release to us as well. I know a couple bands that do that like Pearl Jam they send out a cd for X-mas to their fans and a news letter too. Also R.E.M. does that same thing. I know I would love to get special singles that no one else can get. I'm sure that would be easy since he recorded what 200+ songs for Play. Maybe he thought of this already. who knows. Maybe a Postcard with pictures on it. anything would be so cool. Oh well I hope Moby or his Mangement reads this.. OoUuTt with the Shout Big HUGS to all -SUn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Concert Report: Chicago 5/25 Date: 26 Aug 1999 10:06:03 -0500 Steve, He didn't play run-on at the dallas show and i was really looking forward to that one. Also, i really wanted to hear Southside, but again... no go. Kees!!!!! I agree with you.... we should do more to preserve these live performances... I'm going to tape the st. louis show and i have a friend that thinks he can get a copy of the dallas show. I'll post more as soon as i know more -----rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JSoquet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) shoes???? Date: 26 Aug 1999 11:12:26 EDT Does anyone know what kind of shoes Moby wears on the cover of Play. I think they look cool, but I have never seen that type. Not like I'm some psycho and go out and buy the same shoes as Moby, like somepeople do for Sports figures. I was also wonder are the shoes made of leather????????Hhhhmmm probably not though. oh well anyone help on this. just wanted to know the guy screamed and screamed until his voice said back to him "shut up already, I was trying to sleep" -SUn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) cheap tickets special stuff. Date: 26 Aug 1999 10:27:16 -0500 Maybe a Postcard with pictures on it. anything would be so cool. Oh well I hope Moby or his Mangement reads this.. Yo. I don't know about you, but I got a postcard from Moby when Play was announced to be released. I felt damn special. But free stuff is always cool. ~Miss Melanie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) Concert Report: Chicago 5/25 Date: 26 Aug 1999 10:29:39 -0500 He didn't play run-on at the dallas show and i was really looking forward to that one. HaHa! He played Run-On in Minneapolis after saying that he Never plays this next song, and it's always fun to surprise the people that work for you. Am I right, it was Run-On, right Jason? anyone else that was there. I'm pretty pretty dang sure. =) ~Miss Melanie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason miklian" Subject: RE: (mobility) Concert Report: Chicago 5/25 Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:00:45 PDT sounded a lot like Run-On to me...maybe he meant it as a joke, or maybe it was just a remix that he hadn't played yet....i'll see if he plays it at the DC show. maybe he's going to morph it in to a different song eventually, like next is the e/i feel it-we shall see. j >From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: "'mobility@lists.xmission.com'" >Subject: RE: (mobility) Concert Report: Chicago 5/25 >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:29:39 -0500 > > > > He didn't play run-on at the dallas show and i was really looking >forward to >that one. > >HaHa! > >He played Run-On in Minneapolis after saying that he Never plays this next >song, and it's always fun to surprise the people that work for you. Am I >right, it was Run-On, right Jason? anyone else that was there. I'm pretty >pretty dang sure. > >=) > >~Miss Melanie > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) MOBY Fan Zine/Club?? Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:15:26 -0700 > >I was wondering why doesn't moby give the people on Mobility list and > >MobyMail free tickets to the shows or at least discounts off or something. > >that would be cool or he could just release singles that he didn't release to > >us as well. I know a couple bands that do that like Pearl Jam they send out > >a cd for X-mas to their fans and a news letter too. Also R.E.M. does that > >same thing. I know I would love to get special singles that no one else can > >get. I'm sure that would be easy since he recorded what 200+ songs for Play. Yeah, the PJ fan clud does send out stuff for x-mas and I think randomly too. I used to belong to the fan club. They had a small t-shirt catelog that they sent out only to members. That would be cool if MOBY had a fan club that colaborated w/ his label to put out special stuff to the club. But alas, we aren't an offical fan club. It would be unfair for us to count and ppl who don't have email or internet not be able to get in on it. But who knows, maybe we can start our own fan club/fan zine. Would any one want to do that? > > > Oh well I hope Moby or his Mangement reads > >this.. > Does any one know if anyone (other than MOBY himself) from the MOBY camp reads Mobility?? Is that a confirmed fact? If not, then they should but then we might get into trouble for distributing bootlegs and such. *sigh* What does everyone think? --kimby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) Concert Report: Chicago 8/25 Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:11:46 PDT I got home at 2 am and didn't get to sleep until 3 or so, and only got 3 hours of sleep before work. So that's my excuse for dating my subject as May instead of August. :) It's corrected now. I forgot to mention that Duard is the percussionist, like Pablo was for the previous tours. I'm not sure if that was obvious from my message. The Mancow's Morning Madhouse cameraman was on the floor after the show, and was interviewing people. Mancow is a Howard Stern wannabe on a Chicago radio station. I asked him when Moby would be on the TV show. He was on the radio yesterday morning, and the TV version of the radio show will be on next week, according to Mr. cameraman. He said that Moby was awesome on the radio show. I couldn't listen to it or get it taped, unfortuantely. I have my hopes up that I'll be able to get the video version when it airs on Channel 66 the U next week. BTW, no problem with drunken ruffians. The place was packed, but most people were patient, respectful, and polite. There were a few shovers, of course, but not many. Shirts are down to $15. I wanted to get extras because I remembered requests from people here on mobility, but I didn't have the money to do so. At least there's mobymail@aol.com now. They should have some Play clothes, maybe even the same ones sold on tour. Oh yeah, and the sound was great! More later perhaps, -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY Fan Zine/Club?? Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:24:53 PDT >Does any one know if anyone (other than MOBY himself) from the MOBY camp >reads >Mobility?? Is that a confirmed fact? If not, then they should but then we >might >get into trouble for distributing bootlegs and such. *sigh* What does >everyone >think? Yes, both Moby and his maneagement read mobility. Consider it confirmed. I would like to think that some benign, non-profit concert & mixtape trading wouldn't be hassled. Copyrighted and/or profit-making exchanges, however, are certainly are out of the question. Trying playing My Weakness very very loud outside when it's windy and there are stormclouds gathering, changing from overcast to threatening. It's really quite nice. -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trousers Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby for the masses Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:31:20 -0700 (PDT) dave :0) ha ha ha i knew you'd have a sense of humour, just thought you were being a bit of a c##t at the time. and cheers for the numbers - if i win the big one you'll get your mi££ion trousers "and love ... I dedicate my life to it in its purest form" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Blackwell Subject: (mobility) An open letter to moby / Washington, DC Concert. Date: 26 Aug 1999 09:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Hello, I was excited when I first heard of moby's upcoming tour. I have been a moby fan for a few years now, I can still remember that magical moment when I heard my first moby album way back on a summer afternoon, I was instantly hooked. Well, I live in maryland, very close to DC and saw that moby was playing and the nation on Sept. 10th, but low and behold it states the show only open to those ages 19+. I'm 16 and would deeply love to see moby live, from what I've read here his shows are amazing and unquie, I don't want to let this opportunity go by. I know that it is mainly the venue who makes these rules, but can't their be any exceptions, this _is_ moby. I need help, I don't know what to do, I was thinking of getting a fake ID just for this show, but I am not one to break the law... A very sad moby fan, -Dan Blackwell _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) chart news Date: 26 Aug 1999 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT) BIG NEWS::::: moby is close to becoming a heatseeker! meaning: PLAY is rapidly approaching the top 100!!!!!! it is number >>>>>2<<<<< on the heatseeker chart jumping up from 9 and the song bodyrock is number 11 on the dance charts it hasnt hit the top 20 on the rock charts but it will soon we hope!!!! keep requestin and nagging MTV TRL to play it!!!!!!! cum on we want moby!!!!! RUNON will be on AMP next week playlist: Bjork:All Is Full Of Love Mu-Ziq:The Fear (rock! muziq on MTV! yes!) Gus Gus:Ladyshave Oribtal:Halcyon UW:Jumbo Orbital:Style (i dont like this video the songs cool tho) Plastikman:Plastique MOBY:RUNON Funki Porcini:Rocket Soul ATR:REVOLUTION ACTION (new version) (any1ne seen that 1ne? fucking wicked!!!!!! that is insane. 10-15 years ago it would have banned off the face of the earth. too bad MTV would never play it in their life.) of course 5-10 yearsago Alec was doin trancE!!!!!! SuEcide!!!! bye!!!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY.ORG FAN PAGE Date: 26 Aug 1999 12:08:43 -0500 Daniel, I got my pictures uploaded to dr. killpatients ftp site... they're in the moby directory. I believe they're titled mobypics_dallas_8_21_99.zip. I've got about ten in there... use whichever you want. Just mention my name somewhere near them please :) Thanks for doing this! i would love to see a collection of about 100 photos from different shows. I'll send you some mor after the st. louis show -----rob Daniel Cerman wrote: > Rob Skipworth wrote: > > Hey Damian (and the rest of the list) > > What do you think about a page on moby.org for us to upload pictures??? > > It sounds like several people have taken cameras to the shows and it would > > be cool to post all of our pictures of and with moby up there for all the > > others to see. > > I would be happy to post concert pictures that people have. Just put > them on the Internet somewhere (preferably an FTP site, but WWW is > alright) and email me their location, specifying that you would like > them posted on moby.org. > > Sorry, but I don't know how to make a web page to upload pictures. > I'm just a novice with scripting. Also, if you've emailed me > personally and haven't received a reply, it's because 1: your message > is probably buried in hundreds of mobility posts (HHOS), and 2: I'm > lazy and don't reply to my email as well as I should. Just send me > another email to remind me to wake up and reply to you. Again, sorry. > > Daniel Damian > moby.org not to be confused with mobility-list-owner -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: RE: (mobility) An open letter to moby / Washington, DC Concert. Date: 26 Aug 1999 13:44:53 -0400 Hmmm...if it were any other venue you might have a chance, but Nation got busted BIG TIME a couple of months ago: drugs, sex, underage drinking, etc. It was all on the news. I'm sure they'll be pretty strict at Moby. It will probably be a late show. And no offense to you young people, I could tell at the Chicago show last night who was under 18 and who wasn't. Yes, working at the 9:30 Club taught me well. So if you are that daring, get a fake ID, but remember, Moby will probably be around again anyway. Is it worth the risk? Probably...but use your best judgment here. The Chicago show was good, but maybe more mellow than previous Moby shows. It was neat to hear all the new stuff, it sounded great. I might be interviewing Moby for my web page, so perhaps I can ask a few questions from the Mobility list and then post it here. But I'll let you know if it follows through. One little sidenote: let's all try to practice concert etiquette, okay? Last night in Chicago was a great show, but the frat boys at the Metro really began to annoy me. Leave the testosterone bonding shit at home. Also, when people have been standing for an hour or so to see the band, please don't push your way in front of someone who has waited patiently. If you need to be up front, get there early like everyone else. And if you MUST go ahead, ask someone politely before you push your way through. It is REALLY annoying to have a boyfriend with a short girlfriend push their way up and then suck face throughout "Everloving". Give the song (and the performer) a bit more respect. After having been to 250 concerts in my life, these things kind of piss me off. (Great, now I sound like a whiny bitch...I'm really not! ;-) Thanks...and just have fun at the show! Dance your ass off and be sure to note how Moby says "THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!". XO, Joe -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 12:35 PM Hello, I was excited when I first heard of moby's upcoming tour. I have been a moby fan for a few years now, I can still remember that magical moment when I heard my first moby album way back on a summer afternoon, I was instantly hooked. Well, I live in maryland, very close to DC and saw that moby was playing and the nation on Sept. 10th, but low and behold it states the show only open to those ages 19+. I'm 16 and would deeply love to see moby live, from what I've read here his shows are amazing and unquie, I don't want to let this opportunity go by. I know that it is mainly the venue who makes these rules, but can't their be any exceptions, this _is_ moby. I need help, I don't know what to do, I was thinking of getting a fake ID just for this show, but I am not one to break the law... A very sad moby fan, -Dan Blackwell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) An open letter to moby / Washington, DC Concert. Date: 26 Aug 1999 14:17:37 -0500 > One little sidenote: let's all try to practice concert etiquette, okay? Last > night in Chicago was a great show, but the frat boys at the Metro really > began to annoy me. Leave the testosterone bonding shit at home. Also, when > people have been standing for an hour or so to see the band, please don't > push your way in front of someone who has waited patiently. If you need to > be up front, get there early like everyone else. And if you MUST go ahead, > ask someone politely before you push your way through. It is REALLY annoying > to have a boyfriend with a short girlfriend push their way up and then suck > face throughout "Everloving". Give the song (and the performer) a bit more > respect. After having been to 250 concerts in my life, these things kind of > piss me off. (Great, now I sound like a whiny bitch...I'm really not! ;-) No you don't...not at all...I've been to more than my fair share of shows as well...and everytime I go to one full of people like that I say it's gonna be my last...a few bad apples can really hurt a show for others...(luckily the Austin crowd was really nice...except they were too still...I was practically the only one dancing up front) > Thanks...and just have fun at the show! Dance your ass off and be sure to > note how Moby says "THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!". > Quite right, quite right...very endearing... Daniel "How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: (mobility) toronto show/poll Date: 26 Aug 1999 16:31:42 -0700 just a general poll type thing... who's actually going to the toronto show this weekend? is it worth planning a mobility meet up? (did anyone else at other shows manage to do it?) and to everyone else who's already seen moby- how high was the glowstick to people ratio at the shows you were at? did the show lean towards rave crowd or "regular concert" crowd? or was it (which i think is best) a good mix of all sorts of people? and umm.. i think thats it. peace. -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) toronto show/poll Date: 26 Aug 1999 15:30:56 -0500 Hi Kelbert, I met up with another list member (brad) and we drove up to pick up some friends and then drove to dallas the next day. We had a lot of funny and its great to get to meet some other moby fans. We met a few others at the show and that was pretty cool. If you get the chance to meet other mobility members, take it! I had a lot of fun. Also, at our show i think i saw about 7 or 8 glo sticks the whole night. It was kind of a combination crowd. People were dancing and having fun but they also crowded around the stage. Best audience i've ever seen :) ------rob kelbert wrote: > just a general poll type thing... > > who's actually going to the toronto show this weekend? > > is it worth planning a mobility meet up? (did anyone else at other shows > manage to do it?) > > and to everyone else who's already seen moby- > how high was the glowstick to people ratio at the shows you were at? > > did the show lean towards rave crowd or "regular concert" crowd? or was it > (which i think > is best) a good mix of all sorts of people? > > and umm.. i think thats it. > peace. > > -kelly -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: more Chicago & Re: (mobility) toronto show/poll Date: 26 Aug 1999 14:04:55 PDT >From: "kelbert" >and to everyone else who's already seen moby- >how high was the glowstick to people ratio at the shows you were at? > >did the show lean towards rave crowd or "regular concert" crowd? or >was >it which i think is best) a good mix of all sorts of people? >-kelly It was a good mix of people and vegetables. It would've been better if Greta * Scott had some celery of cauliflower or something. ;) Additional stage antics: Moby asked us if we wanted to see his tits. A concert crowd loves stuff like this, the response was roaring, and Moby lifted his shirt and did some hip grinds. He introduced "If Things Were Perfect" by telling us that the song was inspired by his 3 a.m. walks through New York City in the freezing cold. Somewhere in there he said "because I'm the only one crazy enough to like 3 a.m. walks in 20 below weather..." Somebody in front told he he was sexy. (I thought she said "play Feeling So Real!" but Moby respnded "I'm sexy? No." He invited the person to gratify him/herself in the washroom. He introduced Bodyrock and Honey as sexy songs. He asked for quiet for a quiet, peaceful, romantic love song, and proceeded to plunge full steam into a pounding "Ah-Ah", which STILL has my left ear ringing 36 hours later. (literally, no embellishment here) That'll teach me not to stand so close to the speakers. Ok, I think that's it. (yer all prolly tired of hearing about the Chicago show by now) -Steve _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Rolling Stone Date: 26 Aug 1999 18:51:37 EDT Okay, so this has probably been said already (since I get the digest thingie and it's delayed somewhat) but who cares. I'm still gonna say it anyway... Rolling Stone did a half page thingie on Moby in the September 16 issue right before the Jay Gordon thingie. Two pictures and probably 2/5 of a page worth...but still, it's something. More than I've been in there. Which is never. Hee hee... Anyway, read it. Sure it's full of repetitive stuff (just a show review) but we're on the step to getting him noticed!! And I'm gonna vote for Moby at least 200 times tomorrow on TRL. And include Sifl and Olly stuff...I didn't watch them much, but when I did, they cracked me up. Finally got my End of Everything cd today, too. Kicks so much ass. Although, now that I think of it, all his stuff kicks ass. One more thing, has anyone heard of a clear vinyl that Moby did? I don't remember the name of it. Guess that would help, huh? Damn I wish I'd written that down. Oh well...if you've ever heard of that, please to tell me cause I just bought one from some person and need to know if I'm wasting money or not. Swells +++Poor little Spazz-Tech died last night. Had the poor rat for less than a week and I killed her...+++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) selling out... Date: 26 Aug 1999 19:56:25 EDT Laura, I am going to see Moby and I'msoooooo excited! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) selling out... Date: 26 Aug 1999 20:20:42 EDT me go to see moby in DC.....!!!!!!! that will be 3 times in less than 3 months..man...it is crazy but he is soooo damm good.......................................................................... ............bye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) urb Date: 26 Aug 1999 22:19:17 EDT can someone send me mobys mad cooking skills from the urb mag. i was reading it in borders today and his recpies looks damn tasty. -jason n . p . sister machine gun . [r]evolution . www.smg.org . www.mp3.com/wilt _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) i'm on the radio Date: 27 Aug 1999 00:26:36 -0500 I'm training to have a show on our university's radio station, and I had the priviledge to cue up "Honey" for the early afternoon show. (Some people here might remember me griping about the "idiots" on the techno show here... Well, another DJ and I are replacing them. :) -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett McSherry Subject: Re: (mobility) toronto show/poll Date: 27 Aug 1999 02:39:44 -0400 >just a general poll type thing... > > >who's actually going to the toronto show this weekend? > >is it worth planning a mobility meet up? (did anyone else at other shows >manage to do it?) > > >and to everyone else who's already seen moby- >how high was the glowstick to people ratio at the shows you were at? > >did the show lean towards rave crowd or "regular concert" crowd? or was it >(which i think >is best) a good mix of all sorts of people? > >and umm.. i think thats it. >peace. > >-kelly I will definitely be going! I am going with four or five of my friends, some of which are fans of moby, some of which are going just for the show. I should be easy to spot, I will be wearing blue jeans, a white t shirt with a picture of moby, on the front (the same picture seen in the liner notes of the Moby album, the one with Moby grabbing his wrist, and looking distraught or angered (not sure their). I have long hair, at least long enough to have it in a pony tail, just about to my shoulders, and should be wearing a black redskins hat (not sure on the hat part but maybe.) And should be doing a lot of dancing (half crazily, of course). ummmm.....I can hear those strings of GO already, man I can't wait. I should also let it be known that Much music is running an episode of the New Music, which will include a segment/and a new televison interview with Moby on Oct. 5. Hear is what the web site had to say about the segment: 'Moby mined the audio archives at Washington's Smithonian instutute for blues samples for his stunning new album, "Play". The NewMusic catches up with the well-spoken Moby about one of this year's truly great albums.' Coooool, this should be a good show then, and the best thing is this could only mean that a Spotlight episode should only be a short time away :) Spotlight is a tv show on much music where they will dedicate a half hour's time (no commercials) to playing videos by a particular artist which means finally I will be able to get a few video's on tape. Brett McSherry ICQ# 13673888 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #93 : is it on MTV? Date: 27 Aug 1999 10:17:27 +0200 kimbalina wrote: > > I was too, infact, I still love the MONKEES! I totally love the MONKEES. I > mean, gosh, other ppl wrote most of their music! But it's still fun and I > have a lot of good MONKEE memories. wow, when i was 12 it was 1967, i was send to dancing lesson, to learn all about the steps, one, two, one, one, two, one about the tango and the twist, the jive and what have you, quickstep? any of you had a classical education in DANCE? the problem was, it was on saturday afternoon, from 2 till 4 and that time were the MONKEYS on tv, life and for the first time! these were the first tv's that were in the daytime (before 18.00 hours) which was already NEW in those days, and then you had to go away from home, on yo bicycle all the way to Zaandam, to go to your dancing class, where the first time in yo life you'd feel the breast of a woman held close against you, and in the mean time, on yo jelly telly at home, a sort of MTV in advance, yo' Monkeys were playing... stupid songs played-back... ..but yo didnt have a vcr in those days, so at nites, when kissed by your first girlfriend, yo'd have to ask yo' sister, hey what was going on on TV? and she, the bitch, wouldnt tell you... so yo go to yo mom, and say hey... she won't tell me.. what was going on with the Monkeys, and my mom said: hey how was the dancing lesson? yo did the Slow-fox? or the quickstep? and then yo go; hey i got a crush on Marjan Boersma can I help it? (in the blue dress) i still love her, thankz Monkeys,,,! np: Omar Dykes, aka Omar without the Howlers (mississippi swamp blues) "i went down to the dixy drugstore to have my future told" music keeps my memory going. kaka, --------------- "In logic there is no coincidence" L. Wittgenstein --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) who is this guy: Sell Out?! Date: 27 Aug 1999 10:19:10 +0200 dave Ch. wrote: > First of all, I didn't call anyone a sellout. i never heard Fat Boy Slim; i allways thought this rave about selling out stupid, so i didnt interfere, because FZ never got played on one radio-station dure out the sixties and seventies i think he had ONE MTV show, but then it was A Haloween NYC concert, all the way live through the Fillmore East, (FZ allways played New York City on october 31, or 30) in 1980 or so i Guess, was MTV big then? -No, it was Rockpalast, in Germany! That was BIG then, they even had ZZtop in those early days! now, yo must be fucking sorry real clever to have ZZtop in those days, 1982 or so... real ZUGABE is printed in my mind... meaning: 'encore' (which is french by the way ) -i might have a tape of that... but eh... a guy can't sell out, it's a misunderstanding, a guy can get bought, that's true, a mob-comp can BUY him, but if he wont sell, then he stays home, like look at Formerly known as Prinz, (not King Kong!) who got himself bought by Warner Brothers AND MTV, and got stuck in this lawsuit for 20 years, we know that story's been told so many times, you dont have to be called FZ for that! There's NO Selling, Only Buying! Keep that in mind, Moby-headzzzz the rest is marketing, which is Pavlov... (russian biologist) who is this guy: fatboy slim? i think i saw a poster of him somewhere... is he black? dave ch. yo watch too way too much tv boy, i recommend radio-therapy for ye. unless they are sold-out ofcourse, the Utah Saintzzzzzz (totally out of stock) "dream in a dream with me, maybe 1 maybe 2, maybe 3, maybe 4" k., -- --------------- "In logic there is no coincidence" L. Wittgenstein --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) who is this guy: Sell Out?! Date: 27 Aug 1999 04:55:58 -0400 Once again, I dind' call anyone a sellout, and I don't watch more than 2 hours of tv a week(i don't even have cable to watch Mtv). And I recommend not posting to the list when on hallucinagens. dave but not _the_ frankz wrote: > > dave Ch. wrote: > > First of all, I didn't call anyone a sellout. > > i never heard Fat Boy Slim; > i allways thought this rave about selling out stupid, so i didnt > interfere, > because FZ never got played on one radio-station dure out the sixties > and seventies i think he had ONE MTV show, but then it was A Haloween > NYC concert, all the way live through the Fillmore East, (FZ allways > played New York City on october 31, or 30) in 1980 or so i Guess, was > MTV big then? -No, it was Rockpalast, in Germany! That was BIG then, > they even had ZZtop in those early days! > now, yo must be fucking sorry real clever to have ZZtop in those days, > 1982 or so... real ZUGABE is printed in my mind... > meaning: 'encore' > (which is french by the way > ) > -i might have a tape of that... > > but eh... a guy can't sell out, it's a misunderstanding, > a guy can get bought, that's true, a mob-comp can BUY him, > but if he wont sell, then he stays home, > like look at Formerly known as Prinz, (not King Kong!) > who got himself bought by Warner Brothers AND MTV, and got stuck in > this lawsuit for 20 years, we know that story's been told so many > times, you dont have to be called FZ for that! > > There's NO Selling, Only Buying! > Keep that in mind, Moby-headzzzz > > the rest is marketing, which is Pavlov... > (russian biologist) > > who is this guy: fatboy slim? > i think i saw a poster of him somewhere... is he black? > > dave ch. > yo watch too way too much tv boy, > i recommend radio-therapy for ye. > > unless they are sold-out ofcourse, > > the Utah Saintzzzzzz > (totally out of stock) > > "dream in a dream with me, maybe 1 maybe 2, maybe 3, maybe 4" > > k., > -- > > --------------- > "In logic there is no coincidence" > L. Wittgenstein > --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) 3 am crazy walks Date: 27 Aug 1999 06:51:33 -0700 (PDT) i couldnt imagine If Things Were Perfect live (he didnt play it our show) anyway its funny Davo sed sumthin about walking around late at nite, it gives him lots of POWER>......... when he intrvu'ed MOBY.... and also TODAY IS HAMMER TRL WITH REQUESTS FOR BODYROCK DAY!!!!!!!! TRY TO PUT ASIDE AT LEAST AN HOUR TO JUST VOTE FOR MOBY!!! OR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME!!!! JUST MOBY-VOTE AND REMEMBER PUT SOMETHING SIFL&OLLY RELATED IN THE MESSAGE BOX! SAY YOU WANT S&O BACK ON THE AIR EVEN IF YOU DONT!!!!! IT IS THE BEST GODDAMN THING ON MTV AND IT NEEDA MORE SUPPORT!!!! and if posssible TELL THEM TO STOP PLAYING THAT FUCKING TOM GREEN VIDEO!!!!!!! HE IS A FUCKING ASS!!!!!! (mouth turned off) (mumbling like Kenny) ........................ (BYE) === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) atlanta charity concert Date: 27 Aug 1999 07:06:52 -0700 (PDT) sez sumthin on MTV about MOBY palyin at a charity concert in Atlanta september 18 sponsored by WNNX? other bands: Bush, Live, Verve Pipe, Cake, LUSCIOUS JACKSON, other alternative rock crap (except for the bands capitolized uv corse) bye! TRL MOBY S&O NOT TOM GREEN!!!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) one more TRL thing..... Date: 27 Aug 1999 07:14:43 -0700 (PDT) REMEMBER when voting on TRL MULTIPLE times, remember to change yr name and state and possibly message every few times!!!! it may bog things down a bit(maybe not) but it makes for more variety, who knows maybe the bean counters pay attention to things like that. okay? MOBY "BODYROCK" S&O!!!! i got some MOBY fans to vote in support of S&O so i need some SOCKHEADS to vote for MOBY!!!! bye!!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Heidi Gronman Subject: (mobility) demention V2 #101 Date: 27 Aug 1999 17:30:00 +0300 (EET DST) > Somewhere in there he said "because I'm the only one crazy enough to like 3 > a.m. walks in 20 below weather..." i thought he'd like to die when it gets cold, but naah, weather is a state of mind. and no moby, in that case you're not the only crazy one. greetings from the north pole, h, eskimoanarchist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Re: One more thing.... Date: 27 Aug 1999 07:41:13 PDT Hey, I like Tom Green. They should let him host the video music awards with Ben Stiller this year. And Steve Martin. Nah, replace them all with George Carlin. That's better. I never watched Sifl & Olly... I forgot to mention for all you under 18 Chicagoans who couldn't see Moby that he'll be back in December for a radio festival. I'm guessing it's Q101's Twisted Christmas. -Steve np: Coney Island Baby, Lou Reed _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) another TRL tip Date: 27 Aug 1999 10:31:41 -0700 (PDT) remember, check every once in a while back too see if theres the little dot next to MBY cuz who knows its possible that you may have accidentally clicked on NSYNCor (gag) TOM GREEN or sumthin. Today we are voting for BODYROCK by MOBY on TRL! and remember tell sumthin about S&O! we need our socks back! back to voting, PHIZZO "This is about a superhero named Tony! It's called Tony's theme!"-Pixies 1988 === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) In defense of Tom Green Date: 27 Aug 1999 10:55:13 PDT >bye! TRL MOBY S&O NOT TOM GREEN!!!!!=== Hey, I like Tom Green! That's guy's the best thing on MTV (since they only play the same 5 music videos each day now). Of course, one day he's going to be shot on camera by an irate victim, but nonetheless he's cool "I've never heard any music like this in my life, and if I have, I don't know where I've heard it." -The Orb _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: (mobility) TRL writings Date: 27 Aug 1999 14:04:08 EDT Okay...I've done about 25 thingies for the TRL thing...and my computer's spazzing out from all the damn Levi's ads. (It's a sad computer...small hard drive, no RAM, that kind of thing.) And I was thinking, wouldn't it be funny if he actually got on TRL and the thing would say "0% of phone calls, but 20% of e-mails"? Oh come on, you know it would be funny...yes you do...FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY!!! (Moron-ism) Anyway, there was something I wanted to bring up...hmmmmm...oh yeah, it was with that clear vynil thing again. Does anyone know how rare it is, too? I realize I'm being a complete moron about this, but that's just what happens, you know? Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) who is this guy: Sell Out?! Date: 27 Aug 1999 11:08:23 PDT >Once again, I dind' call anyone a sellout, and I don't watch more than 2 >hours of tv a week(i don't even have cable to watch Mtv). And I >recommend not posting to the list when on hallucinagens. -dave Umm, yeah, Not_the_Frankz.... what were you on? > > who is this guy: fatboy slim? > > i think i saw a poster of him somewhere... is he black? A kind of skinny white guy in a Hawaiain shirt who sweats profusely when he DJs and just got married. :) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) Re: chart news Date: 27 Aug 1999 14:30:54 -0400 hi, paul - can you please tell me when the amp is on MTV?? - i don't have cable - i can have my mum record the amp for me. thanks!! jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) LOOK!... A COW! Date: 27 Aug 1999 20:40:57 +0200 Kees wrote: >wow man. space index-guy >you must know everything, you're the WAREhouse of Moby rareities Well, I have quite a few nice Moby goodies... >But heh, you said Barracuda's >did ye? No I didn't.... I said 'BARRACUDA' (with no _S_ ) >wauw that BART mentioned that, >maybe Moby has that cd of the Barracudas >wouldn't surprise me I wasn't mentioning the Barracudas... really. I've never even heard them... >hey Bart, >it's my birthday, >send me a tape with some rarities >if you would >i'd like it. I'm sorry, but I have no tape recorder, this must sound stupid, (everybody has one, right?) but it is the truth... I use MiniDisc. Oh, congratulations Kees! ( ) < , , > (oo) _______ | \ --- \ _\ | ____ \ | \ | | | | | | | | ************************* LOOK! A COW (I hope this e-mail doesn't get really messy, but in case it does, I drew a cow above...) Oh, now Steve mentioned the WinAmp skins on www.moby.org I still have to update them for WinAmp 2.23 and higher (with a winshade mode for the equalizer...) I have also updated the now available and IMO really crappy looking Dog Heaven skin, the updated version looks quite nice now... I'll get it online soon (I hope..) bart (<>,,<>) little alien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) LOOK!... A COW! Date: 27 Aug 1999 13:45:40 -0500 ( ) < , , > (oo) _______ | \ --- \ _\ | ____ \ | \ | | | | | | | | ************************* LOOK! A COW *laf* That's pretty dang funny. =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) this is what boredom does to me..... Date: 27 Aug 1999 15:09:23 EDT look a cow!!!!!! i found my baby sucking on some of the bee's honey, he seemed to be inside the everloving porcelain machete..... then 7 dirty lookin thugs from the south side began rushing towards the baby. the baby was said to have the natural blues within his soul. this so called blues was something thugs always wished for in themselves. of course, if things were perfect and they had the gift of the baby, their voices would be that of a beautiful guitar, flute, and string emsemble. but for these thugs, the sky is broken and they gown down slow, down to the depths of hell.....they have given up. Ty, the wisest of the thugs asks in despair, "why does my heart feel so bad?" the baby, having had too much bee's honey, suddenly begins to levitate to the heavens and responds: "that was my weakness. i too had a weak hear and felt as if i was descending towards the depths of hell, but i decided to run on for a long time until i too received the gift. at that time, Ty felt his bodyrock and from the heavens the baby began playing music from his mouth. the most beautiful music ever heard by three thugs.....that's when they knew that soon they would have that gift........ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: chart news Date: 27 Aug 1999 13:13:23 -0600 amp is on sunday nights (actually monday morning) at 2 am P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) In defense of Tom Green Date: 27 Aug 1999 15:33:07 -0400 > >bye! TRL MOBY S&O NOT TOM GREEN!!!!!=== > > Hey, I like Tom Green! That's guy's the best thing on MTV (since > they only > play the same 5 music videos each day now). yes and he doesnt smell like a pair of old sweat ***socks*** but yes one day i will read in the paper of some angry person beating the hell out of him. and about TRL. i dont know if theyre that smart, but they probably know if the vote is coming from the same connection. so its possible the whole changing names and msgs wont make a difference though since none of us fortunately dont work at mtv, we wont know. eric gold@netrox.net http://www.tonematrix.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) toronto!!! Date: 27 Aug 1999 13:06:23 PDT sup all, i am totally there, 4 or 5 of Moby's disciples will be there, i heard on the crappy rock station EDGE that there interviewing Moby via phone today sumtime between 6-8 on live in T.O., they say as well he'll probably be going on at aroung 10, boom boom satellites should be kewl, guaranteed i wiil be the first person in line, probably snacking on a $2 doller falafel, only the best from T.O. question, has there been Moby merchandise at any of tha shows, i would really like a Moby t-shirt and have to order from tha UK... peace and i'll see you Mobility friends tomoro... dj AHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) yep, boredom does strange things to people Date: 27 Aug 1999 23:08:27 +0200 For Ingrid When it's cold I'd like to die and I already sense the first cool hive I'm humming an unknown hymn when I realise everything is wrong, as I'm going deeper I see God moving over the face of the waters and I too dive into the blue with a feeling so real, so cold... Everytime you touch me you bring back my happiness for all that I need is to be loved, all I need is some warmth almost frozen I remember what love we knew let's go free, let's get this anthem of joy playing in our heads again be the sun in my life please a little (<>,,<>) alien [---------great poem Elie!!!--------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) yep, boredom does...EIW/Underwater finding... Date: 27 Aug 1999 20:34:26 EDT have we started something here Bart??? to be honest, what i did was probably the first interesting thing i've ever posted on this list...sorry about that peeps...oh yeah..i just got back from europe and took a stop in amsterdam...i went into a record shop over there and actually saw a moby everything is wrong/underwater cd for sale..and it was worth an equivalent of 22 dollars....at that point in my trip, i was washing dishes at hostels for free accomodations or else i would have bought it and offered it over here on the list...sorry...love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) yep, boredom does...EIW/Underwater finding... Date: 27 Aug 1999 20:34:26 EDT have we started something here Bart??? to be honest, what i did was probably the first interesting thing i've ever posted on this list...sorry about that peeps...oh yeah..i just got back from europe and took a stop in amsterdam...i went into a record shop over there and actually saw a moby everything is wrong/underwater cd for sale..and it was worth an equivalent of 22 dollars....at that point in my trip, i was washing dishes at hostels for free accomodations or else i would have bought it and offered it over here on the list...sorry...love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: (mobility) interesting.. Date: 28 Aug 1999 00:05:36 -0600 as i was leaving the Rockies stadium after work tonight here in denver, they were playing Bodyrock over the sound system. very cool. almost made up for the shitty weather i had to ride 5 miles home in on my bike. ick. P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com We just smiled and waved... smiled and waved... smiled and waved... Sittin on them bags of seeds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: Re: (mobility) toronto!!! Date: 28 Aug 1999 02:32:54 -0700 trance former wrote: > i am totally there, 4 or 5 of Moby's disciples will be there, i heard on the > crappy rock station EDGE that there interviewing Moby via phone today > sumtime between 6-8 on live in T.O., i didn't catch the interview, i was busy running around on the subway, trying to get down to the CNE in time to see treble charger/eco crush. anyway, the edge isn't *that* crappy. at least they *play* moby, unlike other stations. i heard there's articles about moby in the globe and mail and the toronto star in either thursday or friday's paper. i must remember to check those out. anyway... jennafur and i decided to check out the show. i'll probably be wearing my hooded university of british columbia shirt to the show, because no matter what im always cold. and at least one of us is going to have a glowstick, even if it is to have mock sword fights with. (glowsticks are handy for picking people out of a crowd. prevents people from getting lost. am i paranoid? naw.... hehe) i'd say probably orange or purple, but i dunno. i wish i still had some white glowsticks left :( so any mobility members who want to say hey, feel free to. actually, how about i say any mobility members who want to meet up, maybe hang around the doorway between the main room and the coat check/tshirt area (the area where you can see the side of the stage, just where performers come out. )in the time between the opening act and moby. does that work? jennyfur and i wont be there for the opening act, so unless someone else wants to take charge of a pre-show meet up, i dont know if that will get organized. peace -kelly (also, does anyone know if the warehouse is letting cameras in tomorrow? sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. and to anyone who's never been to the warehouse, wear things you dont mind washing a bunch of times because you'll for sure end up smelling like smoke by the end of the night.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) In defense of Tom Green Date: 28 Aug 1999 00:04:58 -0700 there are such things as cookies on the web pages.. so i'm sure they know that there are ppl voting the same time over & over again.... MTV may be oblivious to some things, but i don't think this is one of them.... but.. who knows, maybe this works... i dunno... plovious -----Original Message----- >> >bye! TRL MOBY S&O NOT TOM GREEN!!!!!=== >> >> Hey, I like Tom Green! That's guy's the best thing on MTV (since >> they only >> play the same 5 music videos each day now). > >yes and he doesnt smell like a pair of old sweat ***socks*** > >but yes one day i will read in the paper of some angry person >beating the hell out of him. > >and about TRL. >i dont know if theyre that smart, but they probably know if the vote >is coming from the same connection. >so its possible the whole changing names and msgs wont make a difference >though since none of us fortunately dont work at mtv, we wont know. > > >eric >gold@netrox.net >http://www.tonematrix.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) HBO Date: 28 Aug 1999 01:59:00 -0500 Hey kiddies, If you don't have HBO, you'll want to get it soon. The new season of "Reverb", channels live progressive music program, premiers September 21. And the promos from the new season feature a heavy dosage of clips from Moby (audio and video) as well as Beck, and a bunch of other people I didn't recognize because I was too excited about seeing Moby. Don't know the air date for Moby yet. But I'm sure it will be all over the list when it's announced. So, call your cable operator now. Set your VCR. and we WILL be expecting an MPEG recording from whomever has a sattelite or digital cable and can get the show on to harddrive or something. Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises bigwig@arkansas.net "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've often wondered why there was no musical commentary on writing." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author "The early bird gets the worm. But the second mouse gets the cheese." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) who is this guy: Sell Out?! Date: 27 Aug 1999 21:03:36 +0200 > >recommend not posting to the list when on hallucinagens. > -dave > > Umm, yeah, Not_the_Frankz.... > > what were you on? coffee & Chesterfields k/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) bad brains Date: 24 Aug 1999 21:39:29 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BEEE79.256B6000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable could someone please tell me if the bad brains tribute thingy is = available in the UK or will I have to order it from the us what is its full name and cat no Geoffrey Sproule gsproule@x-stream.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BEEE79.256B6000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01BEEE79.256B6000-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: (mobility) moby in toronto!! Date: 29 Aug 1999 01:54:53 -0700 i just got home from the moby show in toronto im about to pass out, but i thought i'd share my happy news moby played thats when i reach for my revolver tonight! yeahhhhh!!! question. did he do a country music version of feeling so real at any of the other shows? the show was good, but i think i would have enjoyed it more if there weren't a bunch of pushy people busy getting stoned out of my mind in the area i was in. if someone else doesnt beat me too it, i'll write a review of the show when i wake up tomorrow. peace. -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett McSherry Subject: Re: (mobility) moby in toronto!! Date: 29 Aug 1999 02:46:39 -0400 >i just got home from the moby show in toronto > >im about to pass out, but i thought i'd share my happy news >moby played thats when i reach for my revolver tonight! yeahhhhh!!! > >question. >did he do a country music version of feeling so real at any of the other >shows? > >the show was good, but i think i would have enjoyed it more if there >weren't a bunch of pushy people busy getting stoned out of my mind >in the area i was in. if someone else doesnt beat me too it, i'll write >a review of the show when i wake up tomorrow. peace. > >-kelly Hey Kelly just saw the show myself, it was amazing! I would love to here what you thought of the show. I myself, never expected to hear "Revolver", but hey you scream enough to play it I guess it is gonna work sooner or later. :) Gotta get some sleep now from over exhaustion, too much dancing, not enough water. And I myself had someone near me smoking pot, and blowing it in my face the entire time.....grrrrr! Brett McSherry ICQ# 13673888 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) T.O. was brilliant! Date: 29 Aug 1999 12:27:21 PDT sup all, the t.o. show was brilliant, moby did his thing, and we loved it, got to meet Moby at the end and say a few words, like "thank you" and "simply brilliant"...indeed he is a small stature man, i thought i was small...very kewl, very kewl.. boom boom..were not very good in my opinion, boring actually, unoriginal, predictable tunes, oh well, we were there for Moby!!! peace love respect to all djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Go's subliminal message Date: 29 Aug 1999 22:33:35 +0200 Hi everybody, Does anyone know what Moby's saying backwards in the Subliminal Mix of Go? I think I heard something like: "...that I could see the Lord's forgiveness" or something like that.. I've recorded the part in .WAV format, and I've been playing it backwards over and over again, but I'm still not quite sure what exactly Moby's saying. (<>,,<>) little alien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) moby kind of day Date: 29 Aug 1999 20:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Sort of passively watching tv - don't change the channel when i wander away to the 'puter - what do i hear but "First Cool Hive" - i look back at the tv and it's on as background music for a segment of gymnastics on NBC while they are interviewing some gymnasts. Very cool - i LOVE "First Cool Hive" - just turn it up loud and dive on in. Has he ever performed it live? sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html _O_o___o______the universe it is so big_____o_____O_o ____o__O__i feel dizzy when i think about it_____o_o_ _o_O__o______my head swims - i get giddy____o___o__O_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" Subject: (mobility) GO-subliminal mix Date: 29 Aug 1999 20:28:22 PDT Moby is saying: "Love is stronger than hate, and humility is stronger than pride" This is recorded backwards in the Subliminal mix of GO. These words are printed on the reverse side of the American GO 12" and the CD single. Robert nobuttonstopush@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby kind of day Date: 30 Aug 1999 06:11:58 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BEF2AE.911D4B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i wish he would perform that live. it would be so cool if he ever did = an all-ambient show. i have a story about "first cool hive": i am a dj = at MIX 107.3, a radio station in washington, dc. a couple years ago i = was also a producer for the morning show. i am a vegan, and they let me = put on a "vegan day" show, where we served vegan food to listeners and = played only songs that were by vegetarian artists. all the songs had to = be within the "mix" format of course (natalie merchant, paul mccartney, = that sort of thing), but they did let allow me to play a moby song, = since he is the most outspoken vegetarian musician in my opinion. i = chose to play "first cool hive". it sounded awesome and i turned a lot = of listeners on to moby. dave -----Original Message----- From: Bjorkdoll To: .~'*.into the blue.*'~. Date: Sunday, August 29, 1999 11:14 PM Subject: (mobility) moby kind of day =20 =20 Sort of passively watching tv - don't change the channel when i = wander=20 away to the 'puter - what do i hear but "First Cool Hive" - i look = back at the tv and it's on as background music for a segment of gymnastics = on NBC while they are interviewing some gymnasts. =20 =20 Very cool - i LOVE "First Cool Hive" - just turn it up loud and dive = on in. Has he ever performed it live? =20 sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html =20 _O_o___o______the universe it is so big_____o_____O_o ____o__O__i feel dizzy when i think about it_____o_o_ _o_O__o______my head swims - i get giddy____o___o__O_ =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BEF2AE.911D4B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i wish he would perform = that=20 live.  it would be so cool if he ever did an all-ambient = show.  i have=20 a story about "first cool hive":  i am a dj at MIX 107.3, = a radio=20 station in washington, dc.  a couple years ago i was also a = producer for=20 the morning show.  i am a vegan, and they let me put on a = "vegan=20 day" show, where we served vegan food to listeners and played only = songs=20 that were by vegetarian artists.  all the songs had to be within = the=20 "mix" format of course (natalie merchant, paul mccartney, that = sort of=20 thing), but they did let allow me to play a moby song, since he is the = most=20 outspoken vegetarian musician in my opinion.  i chose to play = "first=20 cool hive".  it sounded awesome and i turned a lot of = listeners on to=20 moby.
 
dave
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From:=20 Bjorkdoll <slurb@scn.org>
To: = .~'*.into=20 the blue.*'~. <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Sunday, August 29, 1999 11:14 PM
Subject: (mobility) = moby kind=20 of day

Sort of passively watching tv - don't = change the=20 channel when i wander
away to the 'puter - what do i hear but=20 "First Cool Hive" - i look back at
the tv and it's on = as=20 background music for a segment of gymnastics on NBC
while they = are=20 interviewing some gymnasts. 

Very cool - i LOVE = "First=20 Cool Hive" - just turn it up loud and dive on
in.  Has = he ever=20 performed it live?

sarah
"...a fountain of blood in = the shape=20 of a girl..."
http://www= .gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html

_O_o___o______the = universe it is so big_____o_____O_o
____o__O__i feel dizzy when i = think=20 about it_____o_o_
_o_O__o______my head swims - i get=20 giddy____o___o__O_

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BEF2AE.911D4B40-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) GO-subliminal mix Date: 30 Aug 1999 15:00:38 +0200 Rober Taylor wrote: >Moby is saying: >"Love is stronger than hate, and humility is stronger than pride" >This is recorded backwards in the Subliminal mix of GO. >These words are printed on the reverse side of the American >GO 12" and the CD single. Yes, this is true, but what does Moby say at the beginning of the Subliminal mix of Go? There is also another, shorter sentence at the beginning which ,if I play it backwards, goes something like: "....that I can see the Lord's forgiveness" At least, that is what I hear. ==== Bart (<>,,<>) ====== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Good morning! Date: 30 Aug 1999 09:13:19 PDT Look for the link section at moby.org to be updated soon. I'm finally trimming the old liks and adding new ones. If you know of any recent pages that should be in the links section, please email me. I saw Meat Beat Manifesto on Saturday, and I'm sorry to say they sucked. It was actually DHS (Digital Holographic Sound), which is Jack Dangers and some other video producer guy. They had some technical problems, and their heart didn't seem to be into it. It didn't help that the crowd wanted to hear house and jungle, not slower, funky, experimental syrup beats. I went record shopping on Sunday and saw an Austrian copy of the self-titled cassette tape. It was sealed, but it looked like the cover was pinted on non-glossy paper w/ light ink, and there was a postmark in red/blue on the spine. Does the US tape have a postmark on the tape spine? I'm curious. I also picked up another Next Is The E promo 12" for $7, not too bad. I also got the new u-ziq, which I haven't listened to yet, an Underworld King Of Snake 12", and some Lou Reed LPs. Thanks to everybody who wrote to me about the Chicago concert messages I wrote last week. -Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Best Moby Song? First Song? Date: 30 Aug 1999 11:38:03 PDT This is probably not a good idea, but how about the Best and First Moby Song You Heard? IMHO best: memory gospel, w/feeling so real @ 2nd. 1st song: Feeling So Real ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 30 Aug 1999 12:06:37 -0700 (PDT) *hangs his head in shame* you know, it REALLY bugs me that some people just dismiss Sifl & Olly as just socks, and nothing more. you guys just don't get it. but well, theres no use trying to change peoples opinions, cuz its impossible! anyway S&O dont smell! of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green needs to be fucking shot. I'm sorry, but he is so unbelievable obnoxious, disguisting, not funny, and stupid, that I have no fucking clue why he is even on Tv. oh, its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor sells and theres too much crap out there, a little more wont hurt fuck it, nobody agrees with me. anyway, MTV did not play Moby (duh) and i'm never watching TRL again anyways so who cares. you caan continue to vote, but there will jsut be about 500 votes less per day, thats all. never underestimate the power of a rabid nation of trendy teenyboppers i guess. any1ne here like THE PIXIES????? ive been listening to them a lot lately, they were so fucking awesome! Chester (from that stupid show about socks that has no humor whatsoever because it is not hosted by some tasteless Canadian dork who relys on toilet humor) has GOT to do a cover of "Here Comes Your Man" yeah! chow! "Your bones got a little machine"-Surfer Rosa 1988 === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) DHS Date: 30 Aug 1999 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT) isn't DHS that group that did "House Of God" in '92? that was Dangers? or is it different? to keep it related, when they played old AMP videos at the Moby show at Toads, they played that video. the new mu-ziq is nice, but like RYU has said its not weird enuff. but its Paradinas, and its always kool ta hear him. bye! "YOU FUCKIN DIE! what? no I was talking to Kim.....no we were just goofing around, it didnt have anything to do with anything..... she said 'keep off of my stuff or...' and I said 'YOU FUCKING DIE!' I was finishing her line for her, see? "-Frank Black, from Surfer Rosa "You're such a hot ass cook, 'look I made soup'"-Olly mocking you on Precious Roy === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 30 Aug 1999 12:55:21 -0700 --------------04F51302C1C82964425BC1E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green > >needs to be fucking > >shot. > >......its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor sells > >fuck it, nobody agrees with me. Well, I don't agree on shooting but I'm sure I can think of other things I think about the ppl who think TOM GREEN is a god. *smirk* But nothing too bad..... Yeah, he is a sick freak idiot. But I guess that's his right and if you think making ppl puke and puking on camera is funny, then go ahead and laugh. It's a free country (mostly). > > >anyway, MTV did not play Moby (duh) Those soul-less bastards! *grr* Yeah, I've only seen 'revolver' on MTV once and it was on M2. > > > >any1ne here like THE PIXIES????? ive been listening to > >them a lot lately, they were so fucking awesome! > Yeah, I kinda do. "here comes your man" was my friends theme song in high school. :-) MOBY should do a cover of that. that would be really cute. MOBY and Kim Deal. :-) She has such a pretty voice. That would rock. MOBY and Kim Deal should do a song no matter what it is. :-) --kimby > > > --------------04F51302C1C82964425BC1E1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
>of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green
>needs to be fucking >shot.                                                                                                                                              >......its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor sells
>fuck it, nobody agrees with me.
Well, I don't agree on shooting but I'm sure I can think of other things I think about the ppl
who think TOM GREEN is a god.  *smirk* But nothing too bad.....
Yeah, he is a sick freak idiot.  But I guess that's his right and if you think making ppl puke and puking on camera is funny, then go ahead and laugh.  It's a free country (mostly).
 
>anyway, MTV did not play Moby (duh)
Those soul-less bastards!  *grr*  Yeah, I've only seen 'revolver' on MTV once and it was on M2.
 

>any1ne here like THE PIXIES????? ive been listening to
>them a lot lately, they were so fucking awesome!
 

Yeah, I kinda do.  "here comes your man" was my friends theme song in high school. :-)  MOBY should do a cover of that.  that would be really cute.  MOBY and Kim Deal.  :-)  She has such a pretty voice.  That would rock.  MOBY and Kim Deal should do a song no matter what it is. :-)

--kimby

 
 
 
--------------04F51302C1C82964425BC1E1-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) just wondering Date: 30 Aug 1999 13:13:19 PDT sup, at the Moby concert in T.O., i was just wondering if, kelly, you were at the front of the stage and mentioned to a guy beside you that Moby is such a beautiful person, and then left the area after Revolver, just wondering, cuz two nice girls who obviously loved Moby, danced and sang along with me the whole concert, and then left...very nice to see other Moby fans feeling his music...i was directly under Moby during Thousand, man what an experience, with tha lights, his expression, and of course the killer tune...wow, simply brilliant!!! peace dj AHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) SOCKHEADS IN SPIN!!!!/some anti-Moby turd Date: 30 Aug 1999 13:24:15 -0700 (PDT) got the new SPIN today AND IN THE LETTERS PAGE: SOCKHEADS OF THE WORLD UNITE AND TAKE OVER So many wonderful thanks to you guys for including such a fantastic article about my favorite sohw in the world, the black sheep of the MTV family, SIFL & OLLY ("Crescent Fresh", Exposure, July). First off, the article just plain rocks! Second, publicity in itself is hard to find for these boys, let alone good publicity. I love how you were usre to mention Liam Lynch and Matt Crocco and their great friendshhip, not just a bunch of socks. The article seemed really educated and positive. Recently MTV seems to have put S&O on the back burner for a while; some positive hype, jsut like your article, is exactly what we need to get back our socks! YOU GUYS ARE CRESCENT FRESH!!!! Laura Brooks Peekskill, New York Thank you for that ROCK-ASS article on the new dynamic duo, Sifl and Olly, your ultimate guides to all that is crescnet fresh in the universe! MAtt and Liam have taken TV to new heights with this incredible variety show--and their doing it with friggin' sock puppets. The world may need Axl Rose, but you haven't lived until you've seen Sifl and Olly do Slash and Axl, respectively. Their musical numbers "Speed Reader" and "Fake Blood" are all about the GN'R vibe, making you yearn for the days when GN'R ruled the world. It takes sheer genius to make two sock puppets come across like the weird dudes who live next door, people you need to have as friends, butt Matt and Liam have given us "supa dope" programming inside their strange little world. Morgana Cautadell Brooklyn, New York repeat after me: RRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course, some people don't have such a crescent fresh vibe. check this letter out: HOW ABOUT A NICE GREASY PORK SANDWICH SERVED IN A DIRTY ASHTRAY? How dare you run such a positive review of that skinny-ass, no-leather-wearin', vegan sellout Moby. If Moby was the first Dj to bring dance culture to the masses, he should also be exposed as the first DJ to sell out. Charles Aaron's review easily glosses over Moby's "rock record" project [the highly recommended ANIMAL RIGHTS, probly the best record EVER], describing it as having a "scattered stunning charm". Bullshit! When that hunk of shit was released Moby did an interview in another "music" magazine where he said techno is dead and he had "done that." How nice and timely of Moby to have come to his senses and realizes that the art form he helped created is back. And now he thinks he should be able to jsut slip back in and be accepted. Well, I am here to greet Moby with a big, fat, size 11 1/2 stylin running shoe in the mouth (taste that cowhide!). Patrick Schmidt Philadelphia, Pennsylvania To this bastard I say, number 1ne shut up, number 2wo Moby did not create techno. Why do people say that? Because he made some of the best music of the genre doesnt mean he created it. Kraftwerk and Juan Atkins and Kevin Saunderson and all those folks "created" techno. whatever, all anti-Moby losers can fuck off. Also, BUY PLAY IF YOU HAVENT, IT IS THE BEST RECORD SINCE "that hunk of shit" HE RELEASED IN 96! right. I'm going, bye. PS tom green still sux === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 30 Aug 1999 16:45:45 -0700 Phizzo Jobson wrote: > *hangs his head in shame* > you know, it REALLY bugs me that some people just > dismiss Sifl & Olly as just socks, and nothing more. > you guys just don't get it. but well, theres no use > trying to change peoples opinions, cuz its impossible! > anyway S&O dont smell! everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. that doesnt mean that you have the right to try and change them tho. people should believe whatever they want to believe... and if they disagree with you, just shrug your shoulders and move on. which is what im going to try and do with you. > > of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green > needs to be fucking shot. I'm sorry, but he is so > unbelievable obnoxious, disguisting, not funny, and > stupid, that I have no fucking clue why he is even on > Tv. oh, its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor sells > and theres too much crap out there, a little more wont > hurt > *ahem* isn't that that comment a little loaded? what if moby liked tom green? or the creators of that show you're always talking about? just because you dont like tom green, doesnt mean everyone else has to hate him too. i'd just like to say, watch who you call obnoxious because i think you're pretty lucky no one blasts you for your constant talk of those socks (who i have no idea who you're talking about because i get much music who actually plays music videos, and not mtv, which whenever i see it is just stuff like the real world and other weird shows). > Chester (from that stupid show about socks that has no > humor whatsoever because it is not hosted by some > tasteless Canadian dork who relys on toilet humor) has > GOT to do a cover of "Here Comes Your Man" yeah! *ahem* being canadian and being an old skool tom green fan, i could very well take offense to what you just said. but i wont. tom green was cool until Mtv came along and waved huge wads of cash in his face. lets just drop all talk of any of these tv shows that aren't directly related to moby. that way everyone will be happy. lalala... who am i kidding? i can feel another flame war coming on. *sigh* -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) can i ask just one question Date: 30 Aug 1999 22:30:16 +0100 what in the name of all things is stiff and olly? how is it in any way connected to moby? why is it on the moby list? is there not a stiff and olly list you can talk about it on? where is the scala in London (I am going to the concert on the 22 Sept)? I previously asked u for questions as I was going to meet moby I was going on the both nights 21st and 22 but the 21st was postponed ;-( so I will not be able to meet him as the radio friend could not get over due to prior commitments;-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 30 Aug 1999 15:40:47 -0700 (PDT) > of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green > needs to be fucking shot. I'm sorry, but he is so > unbelievable obnoxious, disguisting, not funny, and > stupid, that I have no fucking clue why he is even > on > Tv. oh, its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor > sells > and theres too much crap out there, a little more > wont > hurt > > fuck it, nobody agrees with me. Tom Green tends to kinda get on my nerves too, but a little potty humor never hurt anyone :) I mean, I'd rather see that retarded bum bum song at #1 then Britney Spears... > > > anyway, MTV did not play Moby (duh) and i'm never > watching TRL again anyways so who cares. you caan > continue to vote, but there will jsut be about 500 > votes less per day, thats all. > never underestimate the power of a rabid nation of > trendy teenyboppers i guess. I'm so sick of TRL... even though they play some good videos, there's even better ones that don't make it on there. Oh yeah, and I finally saw a Moby video on mtv for ONCE..... they played Run On at like ~2:30 am~ lastnight (errr.. this morning) How come they play all the good shit when no one's watching? That drives me nuts... oh well Later Gator Mandi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: Moby Video's -WasRe: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 30 Aug 1999 16:53:20 -0700 To my knowledge these are the Video's that Moby has made. 1. That's when I reached for my revolver 2. Honey 3. Run On 4. Bodyrock Did I miss any? Anyone know where these can be downloaded? Jeff Logan > > of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green >> needs to be fucking shot. I'm sorry, but he is so >> unbelievable obnoxious, disguisting, not funny, and >> stupid, that I have no fucking clue why he is even >> on >> Tv. oh, its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor >> sells >> and theres too much crap out there, a little more >> wont >> hurt >> >> fuck it, nobody agrees with me. > >Tom Green tends to kinda get on my nerves too, but a little potty humor >never hurt anyone :) I mean, I'd rather see that retarded bum bum song >at #1 then Britney Spears... >> >> >> anyway, MTV did not play Moby (duh) and i'm never >> watching TRL again anyways so who cares. you caan >> continue to vote, but there will jsut be about 500 >> votes less per day, thats all. >> never underestimate the power of a rabid nation of >> trendy teenyboppers i guess. > >I'm so sick of TRL... even though they play some good videos, there's >even better ones that don't make it on there. Oh yeah, and I finally >saw a Moby video on mtv for ONCE..... they played Run On at like ~2:30 >am~ lastnight (errr.. this morning) > >How come they play all the good shit when no one's watching? That >drives me nuts... oh well > >Later Gator > >Mandi >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: re: (mobility) Go's subliminal message Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:42:20 -0500 >Does anyone know what Moby's saying >backwards in the Subliminal Mix of Go? > >I think I heard something like: > >"...that I could see the Lord's forgiveness" I think it's "you cannot earn the Lord's forgiveness." With emphasis on "earn." There are definitely two messages in that mix. -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) [not] In defense of Tom Green Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:44:42 -0500 >there are such things as cookies on the web pages.. so i'm sure they know >that there are ppl voting the same time over & over again.... > >MTV may be oblivious to some things, but i don't think this is one of >them.... > >but.. who knows, maybe this works... i dunno... So disallow your browser from accepting cookies. :) -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: (mobility) coachella tickets.. . Date: 30 Aug 1999 17:53:17 -0700 helloo. is anybody interested in buying a couple coachella tickets? i'm about 95% positive i'm not going to be able to go, and i already have the tickets, so i thought i'd offer them to you nice folks at mobility before i tried ebay or whatever. i have one ticket for each day. email me for details. laura ps, i just bought play (at a generic chain store, wow!) and i think it's great! it's so weird tho, to hear some of the songs that i heard in my music history classes (the lomax recordings) with strings, drums, hard excited beats behind them. . -- And now for some feedback: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SriDevi9@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #97 Date: 30 Aug 1999 20:38:29 EDT moby has a girlfriend named lisa....she is cute and she has short brown hair..i met her at the concert when i met moby... ada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ruben A Blanco Subject: (mobility) Moby's PORNO? & Sailin' On Date: 30 Aug 1999 20:35:59 -0600 (MDT) Just read this off of the All Star News at CDNOW Link: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=340534624/pagename=/RP/ALLSTAR/article.html/fid=16816 Is this for real? What is the deal with Moby having making, or star-ed in a movie, I thought he was busy with his music (PLAY) and touring. Here is a little bit from the News: <<<<<< Moby's foray into pseudo-adult films, the indie effort Porno (allstar, May 27), has been coming along quite nicely with the electronic guru behind the reigns as executive producer. On Oct. 1, director Paul Yates plans to enter Porno in the Sundance Film Festival, the same path to getting distribution that paid off for his 1998 electronica documentary, Modulations. Of course no movie called Porno would be complete without a cameo from the famously kinky executive producer himself. "(Porn star) Diana Lauren sings 'Feliz Navidad,' " says Yates. "Moby accompanies her on guitar with two dildos strapped to his head." Former Mission of Burma drummer Peter Prescott also makes an appearance as a porn shop customer. Yates hopes to release Porno wide in the summer of 2000. >>>>>>> It thought this news WAS FUNNY, but very un-characteristic of MOBY????? CAN SOMEBODY Review SAILIN' ON Mobys Version? Thanks, Ruben rblanco@utep.edu ************************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: Moby Video's -WasRe: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 30 Aug 1999 20:55:07 EDT you missed Go.. i think he also made one for Move.... elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) bodyrock single.... Date: 30 Aug 1999 21:00:26 EDT just bought the Bodyrock single at a Record Town near my house and to be honest, i do not like the remixes...perhaps the Dani Konig's remix could be taken more seriously than the rest of them.... i don't know if anyone remembers in one of Moby's interviews that he had said something about musicians and Djs that remix his songs and they basically do it in a few hours or a day and send it back to him quickly resulting in a not very interesting remix...i agree with him....not sure if for Bodyrock this was the case but it sure seemed so....oh well....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby Video's Date: 30 Aug 1999 21:28:55 -0700 Jeff Logan wrote: > To my knowledge these are the Video's that Moby has made. > > 1. That's when I reached for my revolver > 2. Honey > 3. Run On > 4. Bodyrock > > Did I miss any? Anyone know where these can be downloaded? > don't forget 5. Go 6. James Bond Theme 7. Everytime you touch me i know everytime you touch me can be downloaded (at least in part) someplace off the net. i forget where. now did i miss any videos? or are there just seven moby videos to be seen? -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 30 Aug 1999 20:52:07 PDT > > >of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green > > >needs to be fucking > > >shot. > > >......its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor sells > > > >fuck it, nobody agrees with me. While I agree anybody who thinks Tom Green is a god should be...err.."looked at" I personally do think some of his stuff is funny. Yea, the toilet humor stinks and sells, but Tom Green DOES do some non-toilet related humor and that's what I personally think is funny. Do you know any other adjectives than ***k? > > >anyway, MTV did not play Moby (duh) > >Those soul-less bastards! *grr* Yeah, I've only seen 'revolver' on MTV >once and it was on M2. MTV makes me puke. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave \"DT007\" Toews" Subject: (mobility) T.O. Show was on Much Date: 31 Aug 1999 00:55:45 -0300 I just got back from Moby consert in Toronto (I live in Nova Scotia), it was a real fluke that I got to see him, my trip over-laped with the show.. It was very kool.. Anyway, I only got to see half of the freeking show, because I was being picked up at 12:30, and the consert was 2 hours late getting started.. 1st because of the stupid ticket lady, and 2nd the opening band (which wernt that bad, but cost me seeing all of Moby).. Anyway, today when I was watching Much Music they had an interview with Moby, and they had footage from the consert, (I didnt even notice a camera in there!) and you could see alot of the back of peoples heads (Even mine).. I was very pleased :D.. DT P.S.(Thanks go out to that real nice security guard who got us the tickets early so my drive didn't miss her farrie) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) GO (subliminal mix) Date: 30 Aug 1999 19:08:40 +0200 Bart van Eijck wrote: > > "....that I can see the Lord's forgiveness" > Bart (<>,,<>) ====== i dont know what he says, "I make it smell the way you make it" but do you guys know what subliminal means? often used in 'subliminal advertising' where they show you a cold bottle of Pepsi for 1/100th of a second, and that would make you thirsty, (all Pavlov by the way, but never mind) now, i wonder would it have any subliminal effect, if you put sentences BACKWARDS on cd's ? Just a question... to me, this is one of moby's BEST, i simply cannot hold my hands still with this one, I have to ram on something! it's Sublime! the rythm! -- hear's another 1 for you: -- --------------- "Even when i got (or shot? i cannot hear well) [to] the Fisherman in the sky, ..only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee S Perry, life Maritime Hall '96 --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby...and girlfriend? Date: 30 Aug 1999 23:14:55 EDT my heart has just sunk : 0 ( our dear sweet MOBY has a girlfriend??? this is disturbing news. im so sad... : ( but i guess it shouldnt come as a surprise, huh? i mean i was more surprised that a beautiful, talented guy like him didnt have a significant other. oh well... :-( animal liberation, vegan power. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3 artists Date: 31 Aug 1999 01:39:45 EDT ill be at the detroit. moby show tommorow. if you see a tall sexy dark haired skinny bitch be sure to say hi. ill be wearing some cargo pants and a blue radiohead fitter happier t-shirt. i plan on getting there 6-7ish. [ill also have a few wilt cds. i hope to slip one to moby himself and anyone else who cares ] -jason n . p . shudder[slit] . wilt remix www.mp3.com/wilt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 31 Aug 1999 00:03:24 -0700 ok.. i am going to agree with kelbert here.. sifl & olly and tom green have nothing to do with this list and i think all discussions should be discontinued. paul, i am happy that u have found an obsession, but plz.. don't post anymore about sifl & olly or how much u hate tom green. u r upset with how ppl treat u for liking sifl & olly and then u say that they should be shot for liking tom green. how is your statement any better than theirs? as far as i'm concerned, that is being just a opinionated and closeminded as everyone who is dissing sifl & olly. plz, no more mails about those socks or about tom green and let's actually talk about Moby. ohmigosh! i'm actually asking for an ontopic discussion! maybe i should be shot now! plov -----Original Message----- >Phizzo Jobson wrote: > >> *hangs his head in shame* >> you know, it REALLY bugs me that some people just >> dismiss Sifl & Olly as just socks, and nothing more. >> you guys just don't get it. but well, theres no use >> trying to change peoples opinions, cuz its impossible! >> anyway S&O dont smell! > >everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. >that doesnt mean that you have the right to try and change >them tho. people should believe whatever they want to >believe... and if they disagree with you, just shrug your >shoulders and move on. which is what im going to try >and do with you. > >> >> of course, any1ne who likes that fucking Tom Green >> needs to be fucking shot. I'm sorry, but he is so >> unbelievable obnoxious, disguisting, not funny, and >> stupid, that I have no fucking clue why he is even on >> Tv. oh, its becuase MTV knows that toilet humor sells >> and theres too much crap out there, a little more wont >> hurt >> > >*ahem* isn't that that comment a little loaded? >what if moby liked tom green? or the creators >of that show you're always talking about? just >because you dont like tom green, doesnt mean >everyone else has to hate him too. > >i'd just like to say, watch who you call obnoxious >because i think you're pretty lucky no one blasts you >for your constant talk of those socks (who i have no >idea who you're talking about because i get much music >who actually plays music videos, and not mtv, which >whenever i see it is just stuff like the real world and >other weird shows). > > > >> Chester (from that stupid show about socks that has no >> humor whatsoever because it is not hosted by some >> tasteless Canadian dork who relys on toilet humor) has >> GOT to do a cover of "Here Comes Your Man" yeah! > >*ahem* >being canadian and being an old skool tom green fan, i >could very well take offense to what you just said. but i >wont. tom green was cool until Mtv came along and >waved huge wads of cash in his face. > >lets just drop all talk of any of these tv shows that aren't >directly related to moby. that way everyone will be happy. >lalala... who am i kidding? i can feel another flame war >coming on. *sigh* > >-kelly > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) coachella tickets.. . Date: 31 Aug 1999 01:58:18 EDT Laura, I am interested in getting tickets to the Coachella Festival in Palm Springs. How much are you selling tickets for? My address is BFle123456@aol.com. E-Mail me with the info soon. Bill Fleming ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett McSherry Subject: (mobility) something interesting of note..... Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:03:22 -0400 I found this article at a local Toronto website written just days ago for Moby's recent appearance at the Warehouse. Thought you might like this one Steve. http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_08.26.99/music/moby.html I just found it and thought it was an interesting read for once. For those who don't have the time to read I'll just give you the snippets I got from it. Like how Moby actually felt like a goof for spending money to clear samples for the latest album, which he later found out the vocals are considered public domain. Also, it mentions the movie "Go", and how before their was BT, their was Moby, but he had to turn down the offer for reasons that were obvious, he was far to busy working on the album (he did like the film, however). His interest for another "I like to Score" is still around, but doesn't know when he can get something like that put out. Moby also enjoys hearing his songs in front of Adidas commercials because he wears the product anyways (the money is cool for him as well, he jokes). And he even brings up the Simpsons, and how the only two characters he didn't like, were the ones killed off -- Dr. Marvin Monroe and Bleeding Gums Murphy. "I wasn't to sad to see them go." he says. That's about all for now. Brett McSherry (p.s. I don't know I thought Bleeding Gums had his moments) ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) PAUL! don't be SAD! Date: 31 Aug 1999 06:30:16 +0200 TRL. whatever that is... Paul wrote: > > "Your bones got a little machine"-Surfer Rosa 1988 woh, much better than any Frank Black Album, this one! there are better quotes tho, this album is a signature-file full... hey Paul, dont be sad, 'bout fav. Moby-rock, I DID vote gdmit... know what i wrote? it's probably gone forever... i wrote them COMMENTS: Why Bodyrock? because you MTVuckers dont have another Mob-Video and Chester said yo better put Sifl & Olly on other would make Paul MAD, and said he: "Hey, better wear these sunscreen-glasses with thermo-sox!' yeah really! I really said that! np: Smoke 2 joints in the morning (smoke 2 joints at nite) Norman Nardini, free cd by the Soup (California? no, New York, 1996) -- k.k. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) can i ask just one question Date: 31 Aug 1999 06:44:54 +0200 Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > > what in the name of all things is stiff and olly? > > how is it in any way connected to moby? > > why is it on the moby list? > > is there not a stiff and olly list you can talk about it on? "Where've you been living? Receeded? - No, San Jose." [real fz-quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flux@scc.net Subject: (mobility) MTV, Chesterfields, First/Best Moby Song, letter in Spin, AMP, Moby videos, "pseudo-adult films", Moby's birthday (an idea) Date: 31 Aug 1999 02:25:00 -0500 Hi all. Just reading over the last couple of digests and I thought I'd give my two cents (I know you're thrilled) and answer any questions that I can. MTV: One of my friends and I were talking about MTV today. He brought up a good question: What does the "M" stand for now. It isn't "music". I think we all can agree on that. Chesterfields: What the hell are those? Toronto Concert: He played a country version of Feeling So Real? I hate country but I would have loved to have heard that. Maybe on the remix album. LOL. First and Best Moby Song: The first Moby song I heard is still probably my most favorite Moby song which is the Rainforest Mix of Go. Although I'm partial now to Move(YMMFSG) and Why Can't It Stop after I saw Moby perform it live 10 feet in front of me. Unbelieveable energy from such a little guy. The letter from the latest Spin entitled: HOW ABOUT A NICE GREASY PORK SANDWICH SERVED IN A DIRTY ASHTRAY? I'm glad he doesn't like Moby. He's too closed minded. What does he mean that techno is BACK? Did it ever leave? Where did it go? AMP: Saw Run On last night on AMP. Overall the show was weak this time around. Got it all on tape. Why don't they play some of the older videos. It always seems to be the same stuff. I'd like to see older Moby videos like Go and Everytime You Touch Me. Jeff's question about Moby videos: Here's the ones I know of: GO Everytime You Touch Me Hymn (I think there is more than one version) Revolver James Bond Theme Honey Run On Bodyrock (Didn't Moby post a while back saying that there was two versions for this song? Something about an animated video? Maybe that was for the next single, Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?) I wonder if there is any unreleased or obscure videos that he has done (a la NIN). Moby really does need to put out a video collection or boxed set or something along those lines. Moby in "pseudo-adult films": ummmmmmmmm............what? Moby's Birthday (an idea): When Moby was here on the 23rd he did an interview that morning on the radio and he said that his birthday is September 11th. I propose that on the 11th we all send a message to Mobility saying happy birthday, thanking him, and saying how much we appreciate all that he has done for music and have Damian send these messages to him. It'd be like one big electronic birthday card. What do you guys and gals think? Damian your thoughts? Why are my posts always so long? Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) SOCKHEADS IN SPIN!!!!/some anti-Moby turd Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:42:36 EDT let he (or she) who hasnt sinned, throw the first stone to that bitter moron, I say get over yourself and accept that people say things that are contradictory, and that all your goatshit is highly inapprpriate and too self evident of a small penis teehee why so much anger? geez! got peace? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Best Moby Song? First Song? Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:31:48 EDT best song? please, must we do this???...... ...but if i must, best would have to be one of the following: ~*~ when its cold id like to die ~*~ go ~*~ whip it (death metal version) ~*~ verb (thats whats happening) ~*~ everytime you touch me ~*~ thats when i reach for my revolver (in the last one, it kinda sounds like hes saying "thats when i reach for my re-vulva!") first moby song ever : hymn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck TRL Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:37:25 EDT WHY EVEN BOTHER WITH MUSIC TELEVISION?!?! why support such banal zombies? mtv is fluff, its lost whatever good it had videos shmideos where are the videos for bjork, or sinead, or anyone else who doesnt sell millions? (no offense to the few good POP stars, name some?) im out of it---who is tom green? ive been deleting some messages.... ps: has anyone heard the song "ballad of cleo and joe", by cyndi lauper? yeah thats right--cyndi lauper. its off her sisters of avalon album. its very cool, dance music, prime material for a moby redux... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett McSherry Subject: Re: (mobility) just wondering Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:29:02 -0400 >sup, > >at the Moby concert in T.O., i was just wondering if, kelly, you were at the >front of the stage and mentioned to a guy beside you that Moby is such a >beautiful person, and then left the area after Revolver, just wondering, cuz >two nice girls who obviously loved Moby, danced and sang along with me the >whole concert, and then left...very nice to see other Moby fans feeling his >music...i was directly under Moby during Thousand, man what an experience, >with tha lights, his expression, and of course the killer tune...wow, simply >brilliant!!! > >peace >dj AHIMSA > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Wow, I was no more then 4 or 5 steps away from ya the whole night. I was at the front between the bongo drums and the mic, or when replaced by the keyboards for Thousand. I tried to stay late after the show outside with a few others, but friends I was with had to work in the morning, and I couldn't be a prick to them and make them stay. THey are not as big fans as I am as well so...not much I could do. Brett McSherry p.s. This whole MTV feud going on about Tom Green, and S&O has me in stiches. Is all MTV programming just canadian television rejects. This sock Idea to have a show was huge here years ago, when Ed the sock had his own nightly talk show. He is still somewhat around, but rarely (he hosted Woodstock for MuchMusic the last I saw). Tom green way back when was a part of a white suburban rap group called O.R.--Organized Rhyme. I can still remember their terrible one and only hit song "check the O.R. you like it so for, check the O.R. you'll love the O.R." Ackkk! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's PORNO? & Sailin' On Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:46:00 EDT actually, it sounds pretty damn characteristic such mischeif...i love him more than ever and would he be ACTING in this film.....knowwhumsayyin??? ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Moby Video's Date: 31 Aug 1999 04:55:04 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEF36C.FDA02120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm a vj at badlands, here in d.c. we also have videos for "move" and = "next is the e (i feel it). i recall reading a moby interview where he = was embarrassed by the "move" video and said that no one shall ever see = him in a leotard again. :) dave -----Original Message----- From: kelbert To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:07 PM Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby Video's=20 =20 =20 Jeff Logan wrote: =20 > To my knowledge these are the Video's that Moby has made. >=20 > 1. That's when I reached for my revolver > 2. Honey > 3. Run On > 4. Bodyrock >=20 > Did I miss any? Anyone know where these can be downloaded? >=20 =20 don't forget 5. Go 6. James Bond Theme 7. Everytime you touch me =20 i know everytime you touch me can be downloaded (at least in part) someplace off the net. i forget where. =20 now did i miss any videos? or are there just seven moby videos to be seen? =20 -kelly ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEF36C.FDA02120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i'm a vj at badlands, = here in=20 d.c.  we also have videos for "move" and "next is = the e (i=20 feel it).  i recall reading a moby interview where he was = embarrassed by=20 the "move" video and said that no one shall ever see him in a = leotard=20 again.   :)
 
dave
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 kelbert <bergstrom@globalserve.net&g= t;
To:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Monday, August 30, 1999 11:07 PM
Subject: (mobility) = Re: Moby=20 Video's

Jeff Logan <jeff@jefflogan.com>=20 wrote:

> To my knowledge these are the Video's that Moby = has=20 made.
>
> 1. That's when I reached for my = revolver
> 2.=20 Honey
> 3. Run On
> 4. Bodyrock
>
> Did I = miss=20 any?  Anyone know where these can be downloaded?
> =

don't=20 forget
5. Go
6. James Bond Theme
7. Everytime you touch = me

i=20 know everytime you touch me can be downloaded (at least in=20 part)
someplace off the net. i forget where.

now did i = miss any=20 videos?  or are there just seven moby videos to
be=20 seen?

-kelly
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEF36C.FDA02120-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby...and girlfriend? Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:46:52 EDT ???????????????? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo okay, im okay now rot in hell, bitch! ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby kind of day Date: 31 Aug 1999 03:23:25 EDT its so cool to convert it feels so good to influence :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NadaButNet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Between a rock and a hard place Date: 31 Aug 1999 07:20:08 EDT << Sort of passively watching tv - don't change the channel when i wander away to the 'puter - viewing some gymnasts. >> Sunday night (and i ain't got no money) I was watching the commercials between HBO's Sex and the City and Arli$$ when a promo for Reverb came on...images of Moby, Beck, and Kid Rock....premieres Sep 11. I think that's the same night as the new season of the Chris Rock Show. I caught his show for the first time last week...amazing. He said in his monologue that Clinton was upset in the rise in young female smokers.... 'they should take that tobacco out of their mouths and put it where it belongs.... ....up their pussies!' Amazing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) lots of stuff... Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:14:34 +0200 <=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<= Remember Remember together remember forever Souviens toi ce jour là toi et moi [Air] =>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=> Paul Simpson wrote: >isn't DHS that group that did "House Of God" in '92? Yes, it was DHS. Quite a minimal/progressive track for its time! I have 2 versions of it on comp's, I haven't heard them for a long time though.... Hmmm, perhaps I should dig them up again and listen to them... --- >This is probably not a good idea, but how about the Best and First Moby Song >You Heard? Best: >>>First Cool Hive First: >>>Move ---- Elie wrote: >just bought the Bodyrock single at a Record Town near my house and to be >honest, i do not like the remixes...perhaps the Dani Konig's remix could be >taken more seriously than the rest of them.... I also *LOVE* the Rae & Christian remix! ----- Kees wrote: >now, i wonder would it have any subliminal effect, if you put >sentences BACKWARDS on cd's ? Just a question... I don't believe so, I had to record the part to Wave format and then reverse it in order to (somewhat) decipher what Moby's saying... ------- John Turpin wrote: > think it's "you cannot earn the Lord's forgiveness." With emphasis on "earn." Thanks! I shall listen to it again. ------- >"(Porn star) Diana Lauren sings 'Feliz Navidad,' " says Yates. >"Moby accompanies her on guitar with two dildos strapped to his head." >Former Mission of Burma drummer Peter Prescott also makes an >appearance as a porn shop customer. Sounds cool! That's when I reach for my dildo, that's when I shove it all the way. :) ------- And now totally off-topic: =>AIR<= I've been planning to get their album Moon Safari since the moment it was released, but I never found the time or money to buy it. UNTIL NOW!...................IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD! If I were to go to a deserted island, and I could choose between Moby's Play and Air's Moon Safari as the only music to bring along I would probably take Moon Safari, not that I'm not a huge Moby fan, (people who have been on this list a bit longer know that I'm a real Moby-addict...) but Moon Safari is so damn GREAT! :) "Be it downtown or way up in the air When your heart's pounding You know that I'm aware" [Air] Bart (<>,,<>) who is very :)happy right now because he just found out that the girl who was his first real love goes to the same school as he does, perhaps the little alien guy Bart still has a chance....who knows. np: AIR - Ce Matin La ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Simpsons/Sorry about the Tom Green thread Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:08:17 PDT I just wanted to openly say sorry about the Tom Green thing, I'll shut up about extremely offtopic stuff like that..... But, please, please, forget Sifl and Olly or whatever those socks are called. Or i'll start ranting and raving about the Muppets. By the way, Moby's into the Simpsons? I knew it. Why is it that all the cool people watch the Simpsons? Of course. "I've never heard any music like this in my life, and if I have, I don't know where I've heard it." -The Orb "Welcome to Moleman in the Morning, where we talk about the pit of misery that is my life. I'm Hans Moleman, good Moleman to ya!" "Alcohol ruined my life, I'm 33 years old!" -Hans Moleman Defending the Universe from the Threat of the Dream Eaters ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) this is what boredom does to me..... Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:48:21 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Were you doing any acid or shrooms when you were in Amsterdam? TMB On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:09:23 EDT Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > look a cow!!!!!! > > i found my baby > sucking on some of the bee's honey, > he seemed to be inside the everloving porcelain machete..... > then 7 dirty lookin thugs from the south side > began rushing towards the baby. > the baby was said to have the natural blues within his soul. > this so called blues was something thugs always wished for in themselves. > of course, if things were perfect and they had the gift of the baby, > their voices would be that of a beautiful guitar, flute, and string emsemble. > but for these thugs, the sky is broken and they gown down slow, > down to the depths of hell.....they have given up. > Ty, the wisest of the thugs asks in despair, "why does my heart feel so bad?" > the baby, having had too much bee's honey, suddenly begins to levitate to the > heavens and responds: > "that was my weakness. i too had a weak hear and felt as if i was descending > towards the depths of hell, but i decided to run on for a long time until i > too received the gift. > at that time, Ty felt his bodyrock and from the heavens the baby began > playing music from his mouth. > the most beautiful music ever heard by three thugs.....that's when they knew > that soon they would have that gift........ > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James Raiswell" Subject: (mobility) Cream Festival & Toronto Date: 31 Aug 1999 12:57:35 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BEF3B0.659AF3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have any word on the Cream Festival, Sept. 11 in Montreal? Moby's = playing it, but it's $34.50 a ticket. Now, Daft Punk is headlining and = there are apparently, more DJ's, so it's not as bad an outlay of cash. = Anyone know the rest of the line-up? Anyone else planning on going? I thought the coolest part of the Toronto show, next to meeting the man = personally and damn nearly giving him a big hug, was when Moby asked = some guy in the audience if he was okay. I guess the guy was just = standing there, with his arms folded, looking surly, so Moby asked him = if anything was wrong, chatted with him a little bit and gave him a = bottle of water. That's one thing that will stick with me forever - what a nice guy Moby = is. Wow. - James ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BEF3B0.659AF3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone have any word on the Cream Festival, Sept. 11 in Montreal? = Moby's=20 playing it, but it's $34.50 a ticket. Now, Daft Punk is headlining and = there are=20 apparently, more DJ's, so it's not as bad an outlay of cash. Anyone know = the=20 rest of the line-up?
Anyone else planning on going?
 
I thought the coolest part of the Toronto show, next to meeting the = man=20 personally and damn nearly giving him a big hug, was when Moby asked = some guy in=20 the audience if he was okay. I guess the guy was just standing there, = with his=20 arms folded, looking surly, so Moby asked him if anything was wrong, = chatted=20 with him a little bit and gave him a bottle of water.
 
That's one thing that will stick with me forever - what a nice guy = Moby is.=20 Wow.
- James
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BEF3B0.659AF3C0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: re: (mobility) Go's subliminal message Date: 30 Aug 1999 23:42:40 -0500 >I think it's "you cannot earn the Lord's forgiveness." With emphasis on >"earn." Sorry, but I need to correct myself. I listened to it again and he says, "you can't achieve the Lord's forgiveness." So much for my memory. :\ -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: Moby Video's -WasRe: (mobility) ***k TRL Date: 31 Aug 1999 12:24:10 -0500 >you missed Go.. > >i think he also made one for Move.... Dan Cerman used to have a videography for Moby as well as the discography. This is the entire music video section, as it is in my copy: :::: MUSIC VIDEOS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Mobility Go Next Is The E (I Feel It) Move Hymn Everytime You Touch Me Bring Back My Happiness That's When I Reach For My Revolver [with lyrics changed to "That's when I realize it's over..."] Is this still online somewhere? :) My copy's dated March 21, 1997. -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Moby Video's Date: 31 Aug 1999 11:14:23 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BEF3A1.FB120920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable on the moby disk, it plays the move video.. which is quite interesting. = moby in a leotard, dancing to his music. it's actually quite amusing to = watch. plov -----Original Message----- From: Dave Linn To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:03 AM Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Moby Video's=20 =20 =20 i'm a vj at badlands, here in d.c. we also have videos for "move" = and "next is the e (i feel it). i recall reading a moby interview where = he was embarrassed by the "move" video and said that no one shall ever = see him in a leotard again. :) =20 dave -----Original Message----- From: kelbert To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:07 PM Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby Video's=20 =20 =20 Jeff Logan wrote: =20 > To my knowledge these are the Video's that Moby has made. >=20 > 1. That's when I reached for my revolver > 2. Honey > 3. Run On > 4. Bodyrock >=20 > Did I miss any? Anyone know where these can be downloaded? >=20 =20 don't forget 5. Go 6. James Bond Theme 7. Everytime you touch me =20 i know everytime you touch me can be downloaded (at least in = part) someplace off the net. i forget where. =20 now did i miss any videos? or are there just seven moby videos = to be seen? =20 -kelly ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BEF3A1.FB120920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
on the moby disk, it plays the move = video..=20 which is quite interesting.  moby in a leotard, dancing to his = music. =20 it's actually quite amusing to watch.
 
plov
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Dave Linn <veganboy@mindspring.com>To:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: = (mobility) Re:=20 Moby Video's

i'm a vj at = badlands, here in=20 d.c.  we also have videos for "move" and "next = is the e=20 (i feel it).  i recall reading a moby interview where he was=20 embarrassed by the "move" video and said that no one shall = ever=20 see him in a leotard again.   = :)
 
dave
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: kelbert <bergstrom@globalserve.net&g= t;
To:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Monday, August 30, 1999 11:07 PM
Subject: = (mobility) Re:=20 Moby Video's

Jeff Logan <jeff@jefflogan.com>=20 wrote:

> To my knowledge these are the Video's that = Moby has=20 made.
>
> 1. That's when I reached for my = revolver
>=20 2. Honey
> 3. Run On
> 4. Bodyrock
>
> = Did I=20 miss any?  Anyone know where these can be = downloaded?
>=20

don't forget
5. Go
6. James Bond Theme
7. = Everytime you=20 touch me

i know everytime you touch me can be downloaded = (at=20 least in part)
someplace off the net. i forget = where.

now did=20 i miss any videos?  or are there just seven moby videos = to
be=20 seen?

-kelly
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BEF3A1.FB120920-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: (mobility) lots o stuff Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:51:36 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BEF3C8.B4AB8160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well I've been on this list for a long time, but haven't posted in quite = a while, so I'll just throw out everything that I've been wanting to say = and ask: I'm a regular listener and contributor to National Public Radio, for = those that don't know, its a national network of nonprofit radio = stations, mostly the format is classical music, whith a few shows = oriented toward Jazz, Opera, and even a show called Hearts of Space that = plays "electronic" music, mostly ambient and "space" stuff. Anyway, a few weeks ago a talk show used Porcelain in one of their = interview sections, about 2 weeks after that a show called "All Things = Considered" gave Play a review, a pretty substanative and positive one, = if I had the transcript I would post it, but you have to pay about 15 = bucks for it, sorry, don't want to afford that. But they did dub Moby a = pioneer in electronic music and said that he "humanizes the usually = inhuman electronic medium." Just thought I'd mention those two sightings. Also, for those of you who really like to ponder things; when you listen = to "Why does my heart feel so bad", the main voice singing that Moby = sampled has back ground noise that is extremely distorted; was this = intentional or was he trying to drown out the original music to isolate = the main voice and that is a consequence? Those who are into sampling = themselves could really help, or if anyone has access to the original = recording that Moby sampled could also help. I'm just wondering because = the same distortion effect of the background doesn't happen in other = samples, or at least it isn't noticable. If you are going to respond please change the subject to reflect what = you are responding to, thank you. Chris Bourke. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BEF3C8.B4AB8160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
Well I've been on this list for a = long time, but=20 haven't posted in quite a while, so I'll just throw out everything that = I've=20 been wanting to say and ask:
 
 
 
I'm a regular listener and = contributor to=20 National Public Radio, for those that don't know, its a national network = of=20 nonprofit radio stations, mostly the format is classical music, whith a = few=20 shows oriented toward Jazz, Opera, and even a show called Hearts of = Space that=20 plays "electronic" music, mostly ambient and "space" = stuff.
 
Anyway, a few weeks ago a talk show = used=20 Porcelain in one of their interview sections, about 2 weeks after that a = show=20 called "All Things Considered" gave Play a review, a pretty=20 substanative and positive one, if I had the transcript I would post it, = but you=20 have to pay about 15 bucks for it, sorry, don't want to afford = that.  But=20 they did dub Moby a pioneer in electronic music and said that he = "humanizes=20 the usually inhuman electronic medium."
 
Just thought I'd mention those two=20 sightings.
 
Also, for those of you who really = like to ponder=20 things; when you listen to "Why does my heart feel so bad", = the main=20 voice singing that Moby sampled has back ground noise that is extremely=20 distorted; was this intentional or was he trying to drown out the = original music=20 to isolate the main voice and that is a consequence?  Those who are = into=20 sampling themselves could really help, or if anyone has access to the = original=20 recording that Moby sampled could also help.  I'm just wondering = because=20 the same distortion effect of the background doesn't happen in other = samples, or=20 at least it isn't noticable.
 
If you are going to respond please = change the=20 subject to reflect what you are responding to, thank you.
 
Chris = Bourke.
------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BEF3C8.B4AB8160-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) this is what boredom does to me..... Date: 31 Aug 1999 16:54:32 EDT no acid but i accidentally drank a "magic" tea at one of those famous coffee shops where they legally sell marijuana and it ended up being shroom tea...i got a little bit crazy at one point but nothing worth having a heart attack about...ok...love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Moby videography Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:24:33 -0600 John Turpin wrote: > Dan Cerman used to have a videography for Moby as well as the discography. [snip] > Is this still online somewhere? :) My copy's dated March 21, 1997. I removed the link to http://www.moby.org/info/mobyvid.txt quite awhile ago when I realized that there was no way I could maintain a videography. If someone would like to do it, I could post it on moby.org. Call it version 2.00, I think. :) Daniel moby.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) moby videos Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:28:31 -0400 As far as I know these are the videos he has done Go Next is the E Move (You make me feel so Good) I have this and it is funny as hell seeing him in the skin tight latex thing Hymn - 2 versions (one is the black and white on disk, the color one is on the rock video monthly thing usually on ebay) Feeling so Real - funny to see him dressed as a woman, kind of cute, on the tape mentioned above Everytime you Touch me - on both the disk and rvm tape Into the Blue Bring back my happiness Come on Baby (have this on PAL and still have not transfered it) Revolver James Bond Theme Honey Run On Bodyrock (i believe there is 2 versions of this, a US and a European version) Hope this helps. I believe someone awhile back from Europe gave a listing of all the videos and the ones that had video remixes also.? But anyway bye Keith NP - Th Cure - All i have to do is Kill Her ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) "Why Does My Heart..." distorted sample Date: 31 Aug 1999 14:33:05 PDT --------- >From: Christopher Michael Bourke >Also, for those of you who really like to ponder things; when you listen to >"Why does my heart feel so bad", the main voice singing that Moby sampled >has back ground noise that is extremely distorted; was this intentional or >was he trying to drown out the original music to isolate the main voice and >that is a consequence? Those who are into sampling themselves could really >help, or if anyone has access to the original recording that Moby sampled >could also help. I'm just wondering because the same distortion effect of >the background doesn't happen in other samples, or at least it isn't >noticable. ---------- Moby added the choral part. I'm really not sure if the distortion was there originally, but it was changed from the 'natural' state of the sample. So your answer is either A) Yes, Moby added it or B)Both. It was already there, but Moby modified it by adding the choral element and possibly by altering it in other ways, too. I've heard the original sample, and the singer sings, "These open doors." It's much, much clearer and easier to recognize and decipher in it's original* state. In "Why Does My Heart...", the added choral element gives it an uplifting, spiritual tone, in my opinion. I think Moby chose to do this because A) it sounds great and is emotionally resonant & B) it fits with the 'introspection' theme that shows up frequenty on Play. I guess I'm one of the few who thinks of this as a happy song. *I heard that sample less/not distorted and modified, but it was already a sample at that point, not the original recording it came from. I need to go back and listen again, but some of the background distortion you mentioned may be audible in the previos incarnation of the sample. The distortion was certainly modifed, though. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) Unreleased Video Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:02:46 -0500 Hi Folks, When Brad Caviness and I talked to Moby in Dallas last week he said that a video had just been completed for the song Shaumgummi... It hasn't been released and who knows if it ever will..... but he said that they had contacted the people working on Mike Meyers new movie - Sprockets. Maybe when that movie comes out 120 minutes and amp will play it ----rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby videos Date: 31 Aug 1999 15:27:05 PDT What is this Cure song? I've never heard it. >NP - Th Cure - All i have to do is Kill Her > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) lots o stuff Date: 31 Aug 1999 18:34:26 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF3DF.745C1180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, considering how old the recordings were, they were most likely sampled off vinyl. Some of the samples he cleaned up a bit, others he left them like they were. He evens adds scratct/vinyl effects, such as the sample that starts and ends Porecelain. -----Original Message----- From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Michael Bourke Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 1:52 PM To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: (mobility) lots o stuff Well I've been on this list for a long time, but haven't posted in quite a while, so I'll just throw out everything that I've been wanting to say and ask: I'm a regular listener and contributor to National Public Radio, for those that don't know, its a national network of nonprofit radio stations, mostly the format is classical music, whith a few shows oriented toward Jazz, Opera, and even a show called Hearts of Space that plays "electronic" music, mostly ambient and "space" stuff. Anyway, a few weeks ago a talk show used Porcelain in one of their interview sections, about 2 weeks after that a show called "All Things Considered" gave Play a review, a pretty substanative and positive one, if I had the transcript I would post it, but you have to pay about 15 bucks for it, sorry, don't want to afford that. But they did dub Moby a pioneer in electronic music and said that he "humanizes the usually inhuman electronic medium." Just thought I'd mention those two sightings. Also, for those of you who really like to ponder things; when you listen to "Why does my heart feel so bad", the main voice singing that Moby sampled has back ground noise that is extremely distorted; was this intentional or was he trying to drown out the original music to isolate the main voice and that is a consequence? Those who are into sampling themselves could really help, or if anyone has access to the original recording that Moby sampled could also help. I'm just wondering because the same distortion effect of the background doesn't happen in other samples, or at least it isn't noticable. If you are going to respond please change the subject to reflect what you are responding to, thank you. Chris Bourke. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF3DF.745C1180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, = considering=20 how old the recordings were, they were most likely sampled off=20 vinyl.
Some = of the samples=20 he cleaned up a bit, others he left them like they were.  He evens = adds=20 scratct/vinyl effects, such as the sample that starts and ends=20 Porecelain.
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of = Christopher=20 Michael Bourke
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 1:52 = PM
To:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com
Subject: (mobility) lots o=20 stuff

 
 
Well I've been on this list for a long time, but = haven't=20 posted in quite a while, so I'll just throw out everything that I've = been=20 wanting to say and ask:
 
 
 
I'm a regular listener and contributor to National = Public=20 Radio, for those that don't know, its a national network of nonprofit = radio=20 stations, mostly the format is classical music, whith a few shows = oriented=20 toward Jazz, Opera, and even a show called Hearts of Space that plays=20 "electronic" music, mostly ambient and "space" stuff.
 
Anyway, a few weeks ago a talk show used Porcelain = in one of=20 their interview sections, about 2 weeks after that a show called "All = Things=20 Considered" gave Play a review, a pretty substanative and positive = one, if I=20 had the transcript I would post it, but you have to pay about 15 bucks = for it,=20 sorry, don't want to afford that.  But they did dub Moby a = pioneer in=20 electronic music and said that he "humanizes the usually inhuman = electronic=20 medium."
 
Just thought I'd mention those two = sightings.
 
Also, for those of you who really like to ponder = things;=20 when you listen to "Why does my heart feel so bad", the main voice = singing=20 that Moby sampled has back ground noise that is extremely distorted; = was this=20 intentional or was he trying to drown out the original music to = isolate the=20 main voice and that is a consequence?  Those who are into = sampling=20 themselves could really help, or if anyone has access to the original=20 recording that Moby sampled could also help.  I'm just wondering = because=20 the same distortion effect of the background doesn't happen in other = samples,=20 or at least it isn't noticable.
 
If you are going to respond please change the = subject to=20 reflect what you are responding to, thank you.
 
Chris = Bourke.
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF3DF.745C1180-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:04:15 EDT hey if there are any NYU students on mobility, he is playing at Irving Plaza on Sept 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is for nyu students only and u must have ID. i just found out and got a pr of tix! i was about to shit my pants b/c i was ready to go travel out of state to see him again but he's back in NYC!!! and it's only $5!!! im way too excited. animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: (mobility) MOBILITY: Moby has a girlfriend? Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:48:46 EDT At Moby's July 31st show in Plainview, he told us all he was single...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 31 Aug 1999 20:34:47 EDT what is this shit about moby playing for NYU students only....can someone verify this....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: Re: (mobility) moby videos Date: 31 Aug 1999 17:53:55 -0700 If someone has these video in mpeg or quicktime format I can host them on my server for download. Any one have these? Maybe Moby should make a Best of Moby Video's Video Tape? Jeff Logan >As far as I know these are the videos he has done >Go >Next is the E >Move (You make me feel so Good) I have this and it is funny as hell >seeing him in the skin tight latex thing >Hymn - 2 versions (one is the black and white on disk, the color one is >on the rock video > monthly thing usually on ebay) >Feeling so Real - funny to see him dressed as a woman, kind of cute, on >the tape mentioned > above >Everytime you Touch me - on both the disk and rvm tape >Into the Blue >Bring back my happiness >Come on Baby (have this on PAL and still have not transfered it) >Revolver >James Bond Theme >Honey >Run On >Bodyrock (i believe there is 2 versions of this, a US and a European >version) >Hope this helps. I believe someone awhile back from Europe gave a >listing of all the videos and the ones that had video remixes also.? But >anyway bye Keith >NP - Th Cure - All i have to do is Kill Her ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 31 Aug 1999 20:46:20 -0700 Ok this bullshit...irving plaza is a ticketmaster venue, and ticketmaster doesn't even has it as an event. Also on the irving plaza website the show isn't listed. Considering that irving plaza isn't too small of venue also and that it's not a cheap place just to "rent" out. You can't throw independent show at a venue that is sponsored by ticketmaster. Later, Chris -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sarasohn1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:04 PM hey if there are any NYU students on mobility, he is playing at Irving Plaza on Sept 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is for nyu students only and u must have ID. i just found out and got a pr of tix! i was about to shit my pants b/c i was ready to go travel out of state to see him again but he's back in NYC!!! and it's only $5!!! im way too excited. animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mandi Maycumber Subject: Re: (mobility) MTV, Chesterfields, First/Best Moby Song, letter in Spin, AMP, Moby videos, "pseudo-adult films", Moby's birthday (an idea) Date: 31 Aug 1999 18:08:03 -0700 (PDT) > When Moby was here on the 23rd he did an interview > that morning on the radio > and he said that his birthday is September 11th. I > propose that on the 11th > we all send a message to Mobility saying happy > birthday, thanking him, and > saying how much we appreciate all that he has done > for music and have Damian > send these messages to him. It'd be like one big > electronic birthday card. > What do you guys and gals think? Damian your > thoughts? Moby's b-day is on the 11th? cool, were the same sign. (not that i care about that crap anyway) i feel special now :) but anyway, i think that sounds like a cool idea... Mandi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby Q&A Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:15:10 EDT the Q&A session w/ moby on billboard talent net just came out. it was kinda boring except for the last question where moby revealed how he would spend new yr's eve. he's got such a bizarre sense of humor. ; ) to catch the Q&A: www.billboardtalentnet.com/insidemusic/qanda_july.html animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cpt. Koons" Subject: (mobility) Toronto Edge 102 Date: 01 Sep 1999 00:37:11 -0400 I can't believe someone is bitching about Edge 102 in Toronto. Thank the good Lord that you HAVE a radio station to listen to that plays a lot of good music (Moist, MGB, Big Sugar, Eco Crush, OLP, etc). Why not come to Cleveland where you can listen to SHIT all day long since the only alternative station was bought up and now plays shit rap and all the other stations play Zeppelin day and night. At least I can listen to Edge with real audio but I don't have it in my car. Enough ranting. Moby Wednesday nite here in Cleveland. can't wait. We were in that Hanoi pit of hell over 5 years--Cpt. Koons (Pulp Fiction) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hman Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 01 Sep 1999 01:02:23 -0400 actually, this concert is no joke..I wish you would think before you speak...it is happening for 5 dollars and it is at irving plaza..the reason it has not been advertised is b/c it if for NYU students only, or i suppose friends of NYU students.. later mates, hm Chris Hand wrote: > Ok this bullshit...irving plaza is a ticketmaster venue, and ticketmaster > doesn't even has it as an event. Also on the irving plaza website the show > isn't listed. Considering that irving plaza isn't too small of venue also > and that it's not a cheap place just to "rent" out. > You can't throw independent show at a venue that is sponsored by > ticketmaster. > Later, > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sarasohn1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:04 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) MOBY and NYU > > hey if there are any NYU students on mobility, he is playing at Irving > Plaza > on Sept 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is for nyu students only and u > must have ID. i just found out and got a pr of tix! i was about to shit my > pants b/c i was ready to go travel out of state to see him again but he's > back in NYC!!! and it's only $5!!! im way too excited. > > animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 01 Sep 1999 00:47:09 -0700 heh I know a video graduate at NYU that films concerts, and did both the plainview and woodstock moby show, and he says that he hasn't heard anything about it yet. I am not looking for advertisements..a ticketmaster venue would still have it listed as a ticketmaster event. I also called irving plaza...and they knew nothing about it either. So go figure. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of hman Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:02 PM actually, this concert is no joke..I wish you would think before you speak...it is happening for 5 dollars and it is at irving plaza..the reason it has not been advertised is b/c it if for NYU students only, or i suppose friends of NYU students.. later mates, hm Chris Hand wrote: > Ok this bullshit...irving plaza is a ticketmaster venue, and ticketmaster > doesn't even has it as an event. Also on the irving plaza website the show > isn't listed. Considering that irving plaza isn't too small of venue also > and that it's not a cheap place just to "rent" out. > You can't throw independent show at a venue that is sponsored by > ticketmaster. > Later, > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sarasohn1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:04 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) MOBY and NYU > > hey if there are any NYU students on mobility, he is playing at Irving > Plaza > on Sept 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is for nyu students only and u > must have ID. i just found out and got a pr of tix! i was about to shit my > pants b/c i was ready to go travel out of state to see him again but he's > back in NYC!!! and it's only $5!!! im way too excited. > > animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 01 Sep 1999 01:02:23 -0700 Well this is the best I can find on anything happen with irving plaza with NYU September 2, 1999 (Thursday) London DJ Dance Party Time: 9:00 PM Place: Irving Plaza that's the only thing listed on the nyu calender of events..but that's not the 8th..so i dunno -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of hman Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:02 PM actually, this concert is no joke..I wish you would think before you speak...it is happening for 5 dollars and it is at irving plaza..the reason it has not been advertised is b/c it if for NYU students only, or i suppose friends of NYU students.. later mates, hm Chris Hand wrote: > Ok this bullshit...irving plaza is a ticketmaster venue, and ticketmaster > doesn't even has it as an event. Also on the irving plaza website the show > isn't listed. Considering that irving plaza isn't too small of venue also > and that it's not a cheap place just to "rent" out. > You can't throw independent show at a venue that is sponsored by > ticketmaster. > Later, > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sarasohn1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:04 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) MOBY and NYU > > hey if there are any NYU students on mobility, he is playing at Irving > Plaza > on Sept 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is for nyu students only and u > must have ID. i just found out and got a pr of tix! i was about to shit my > pants b/c i was ready to go travel out of state to see him again but he's > back in NYC!!! and it's only $5!!! im way too excited. > > animal lib, vegan power