From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) new remix rumors... Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:18:34 PDT sup all, just wuz surfin' and came across Techno Animal's website and it mentioned that a new Jon Spencer Blues Explosion remix album is coming out on the 13th, with remixes from TA, Alec Empire, and Moby, the album is called "Acme Plus"... ...tha last JSBE remix album wuz wikkid, moby's mix was really kewl and am anticipating another stellar mix... peace djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) Demo tracks found... Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:35:03 PDT sup again, just remembered, my friend downloaded 22 Moby tracks from sumwhere and put them on cd for me, he said he didn't think i had any of them and didn't no what they where...well neither do i, all of the tracks are what seem to be studio demos from thru out tha years...man there is sum awesum stuff here, here are sum of tha track names off tha top of my head... Sunday was a Fine Day < ETYTM early stages with no vox,but a sample of a woman singing the title, kewl break down as well> actually track names i can't remeber, but one track had tha "these open doors" sample from WDMHFSB, and sum other female vox tracks, sum wikkid house/dance tracks, andsum kewl break stuff, as well as a Folk track by Moby, it wuz hard to believe it wuz Moby, sounds like he's trying to hard and goes really for a verse...plus there were to wikkid mixes of TWIRFMR, synth mix < all electronic, vox, no guitars > and a slow version < a kinda of a lounge, contemporary thing > ...couldn't believe i got these, so if any else has heard of these tracks, please fill everyone in, and i'll try find out where we found them from... peace djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBILITY: Moby has a girlfriend? Date: 01 Sep 1999 01:50:38 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 CaMuS888@aol.com wrote: > At Moby's July 31st show in Plainview, he told us all he was single...... Well of _course_ he did...it's just like how record companies or something don't want to spread around how the teeny boppers heart throb of an idol is married with kids or a screaming queen - moby's probably just saying that to keep his fans with crushes happy. :) I'm glad he has a girlfriend - how can such an amazingly talented, nice guy who has the heart to write 'Porcelain' (*swoon*) NOT have a significant other. Yay for Moby and Yay for the lucky girl. :) sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html ._._._._.uncertainty excites me, baby._._._._. _._._.who knows what's going to happen?._._._ ._._._._._._.lottery or car crash._._._._._._. _._._._._._.or you'll join a cult._._._._._._ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) moby videos Date: 01 Sep 1999 01:54:43 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Jeff Logan wrote: > If someone has these video in mpeg or quicktime format I can host > them on my server for download. Any one have these? Maybe Moby > should make a Best of Moby Video's Video Tape? Yeah! He should! Like Bjork's "Volumen"...I've got that and I LOVE it! (it doesn't have 'Alarm Call' or 'All is Full of Love' on it though since those were released after the video came out....damn, and AIFOL is a smashing vid). But, yeah, a Moby Comp. Video would be brilliant! sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html ._._._._.uncertainty excites me, baby._._._._. _._._.who knows what's going to happen?._._._ ._._._._._._.lottery or car crash._._._._._._. _._._._._._.or you'll join a cult._._._._._._ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hman Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 01 Sep 1999 05:08:23 -0400 well, my friend has already purchased a couple of tickets...perhaps I'll have to ask him if he while he was in line waiting, and purchasing the tickets he was dreaming...I personally did not purchase a ticket for this event, but I personally do know someone that has purchased these tickets...I guess I'll just have to sit and wait for the 8th... Chris Hand wrote: > Well this is the best I can find on anything happen with irving plaza with > NYU > > September 2, 1999 (Thursday) > > London DJ Dance Party > Time: 9:00 PM > Place: Irving Plaza > > that's the only thing listed on the nyu calender of events..but that's not > the 8th..so i dunno > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of hman > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 10:02 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY and NYU > > actually, this concert is no joke..I wish you would think before you > speak...it > is happening for 5 dollars and it is at irving plaza..the reason it has not > been > advertised is b/c it if for NYU students only, or i suppose friends of NYU > students.. > later mates, > hm > > Chris Hand wrote: > > > Ok this bullshit...irving plaza is a ticketmaster venue, and ticketmaster > > doesn't even has it as an event. Also on the irving plaza website the show > > isn't listed. Considering that irving plaza isn't too small of venue also > > and that it's not a cheap place just to "rent" out. > > You can't throw independent show at a venue that is sponsored by > > ticketmaster. > > Later, > > Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Sarasohn1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:04 PM > > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: (mobility) MOBY and NYU > > > > hey if there are any NYU students on mobility, he is playing at Irving > > Plaza > > on Sept 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is for nyu students only and u > > must have ID. i just found out and got a pr of tix! i was about to shit > my > > pants b/c i was ready to go travel out of state to see him again but he's > > back in NYC!!! and it's only $5!!! im way too excited. > > > > animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's PORNO? & Sailin' On Date: 01 Sep 1999 02:56:31 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Ruben A Blanco wrote: > "Moby accompanies her on guitar with two > dildos strapped to his head." *laughing* Okay, now THIS i have got to see!!! :D What kind of dildos? What colour? There has got to be pictures of this out there on the web somewhere! *hehe* :) "Don't blame the dildos!!" sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html ........................it takes to courage to enjoy it ...................the hardcore and the gentle .............a big time sensuality ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Demo tracks found... Date: 01 Sep 1999 08:56:00 -0400 Can I get a copy of those??? - Jayson jgmagnus@bkb.com -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:35 PM sup again, just remembered, my friend downloaded 22 Moby tracks from sumwhere and put them on cd for me, he said he didn't think i had any of them and didn't no what they where...well neither do i, all of the tracks are what seem to be studio demos from thru out tha years...man there is sum awesum stuff here, here are sum of tha track names off tha top of my head... Sunday was a Fine Day < ETYTM early stages with no vox,but a sample of a woman singing the title, kewl break down as well> actually track names i can't remeber, but one track had tha "these open doors" sample from WDMHFSB, and sum other female vox tracks, sum wikkid house/dance tracks, andsum kewl break stuff, as well as a Folk track by Moby, it wuz hard to believe it wuz Moby, sounds like he's trying to hard and goes really for a verse...plus there were to wikkid mixes of TWIRFMR, synth mix < all electronic, vox, no guitars > and a slow version < a kinda of a lounge, contemporary thing > ...couldn't believe i got these, so if any else has heard of these tracks, please fill everyone in, and i'll try find out where we found them from... peace djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) coachella tickets.. . Date: 01 Sep 1999 07:32:25 -0700 > helloo. is anybody interested in buying a couple coachella tickets? i'm > about 95% positive i'm not going to be able to go, and i already have > the tickets, so i thought i'd offer them to you nice folks at mobility > before i tried ebay or whatever. i have one ticket for each day. email > me for details. > > I'm hoping to talk my bf into taking me to PS for the show. How much were > tix and are they still on sale? I'm not sure what we'll be doing but > we're currently working on details. Yes, if I can swing it I would love > to buy your tix. Were they very much? *sigh* I'm so worried we won't be > able to get tix for both days. (Well, only if MOBY and MORRISSEY are > playing different days.) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) St. Louis Concert Date: 01 Sep 1999 07:29:50 PDT I've been contacted by somebody who wants help finding ticket outlets in St. Louis and the location of Karma, where it's at. She's from Tuscaloosa and will be in town when Moby is there, and she's failing miserably at finding out the info she needs. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) moby...and girlfriend and much more Date: 01 Sep 1999 07:46:37 -0700 > >my heart has just sunk : 0 ( > >our dear sweet MOBY has a girlfriend??? this is disturbing news. im so > >sad... : ( > >but i guess it shouldnt come as a surprise, huh? i mean i was more surprised > >that a beautiful, talented guy like him didnt have a significant other. > >oh well... :-( Yay, more power to 'em. *sigh* Like *any* of us would have scored w/ the MOBSTER anyway. *laugh* I mean, sure he seems to like the ladies but like, what are the chances of MOBY looking at any of us and saying "On the strength of your girlish good looks, ability to worship my talents and on the fact that you obviously have good taste, let's have a life long relationship in which I will dote on you and look at no one else." Uh huh. Yeah. I'd be happy to get that from a regular not techo god (deity) type guy. Sheesh. But commitment is so, how do I say this....binding? *sigh* *smirk* > > > >animal liberation Strangly, that reminds me of this horror show in which this large girl decides she's going to be come a vegi-terrorist...I mean vegitarian. :-) She buys these glasses that are supposed to make her not want to eat meat or something and it turnes out that they also make it look like the vegitables are talking to her and they become her friends and they ask her to please not eat them. She tries to take off the glasses but ultimatly can't and she dies of starvation. Weird. Veggie liberation!! Yeah, I'll liberate those tasty suckers right on my plate. :-) Gee, can we make the aminals wear barets? :-) Just kidding. No, we should be much nicer to animals and I do wish we could all illiminate animal suffering and animals period from out diets. I just wish those darn chickens weren't so tasty. But if I could just stop eating chickens, I'd be home free. *sigh* Kimby liberation! No more chicken! *giggle* > >vegan power I also found this interesting. It doesn't remind me of any stories but it did make me think of Gay Pride which I love to death. :-) But do you ever wonder about these things? Are vegans opressed? I guess they are. So much is made of animal products. I never thought of it as opression. *sigh* The world is such a place of confusion. Gee, why can't we all be happy, free, and well, uh, yeah. *sigh* If we could all have it our way, would it be the same as it is now? I think so. Ok, ramble ramble ramble. ---kimby PS don't kill me for going on tangents. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) moby...and girlfriend? Date: 01 Sep 1999 08:09:47 -0700 > >nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > >okay, im okay now > >rot in hell, bitch! ;) wow, I feel the love vibes. But I can sort of empathize. I had a thing hard core for Eddie Vedder when I was like, in Jr High ('92) and up until high school ('94?) Yeah, I was so crushed when he got hitched to Beth. But whatever, I couldn't possibly wish that someone not find their love and they're mate. Even though, yes, if given the opp, I'd at least snuggle naked w/ MOBY, if given the op but I tresure and cherish my bf and I'm glad that I can naked snuggle w/ him any time as opossed to probably MOBY's gf who probably doesn't get to do it that often. I have every night w/ my sweetie. :-) I'm sad for them both because man, I would miss my man if he were on tour. --kimby PS, Don't kill me. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) lots of stuff... Date: 01 Sep 1999 08:12:30 -0700 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > >"(Porn star) Diana Lauren sings 'Feliz Navidad,' " says Yates. > >"Moby accompanies her on guitar with two dildos strapped to his head." > >Former Mission of Burma drummer Peter Prescott also makes an > >appearance as a porn shop customer. > > Sounds cool! > That's when I reach for my dildo, that's when I shove it all the way. > :) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's nice to see what you're all talking about on the days that I can't check my mail. Okay, MOBY w/ Dildos (purrrr) and porn customers. What *has* MOBY been up? That cheeky little monkey! :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBILITY: Moby has a girlfriend? Date: 01 Sep 1999 08:43:22 -0700 I was goning to say in a previous message that I thought the young, smallish short brown headed girl was Scott's gf but she could have been MOBY's? Who knows, who cares other than MOBY himself and who ever his sig nif is or isn't. *sigh* But I don't even know why I'm replying to these messages? Why do I care? I don't. I don't think...uh? Now I"m confused. :-) > At Moby's July 31st show in Plainview, he told us all he was single...... --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) MOBY's BDAY Date: 01 Sep 1999 08:45:52 -0700 Mandi Maycumber wrote: > > When Moby was here on the 23rd he did an interview > > that morning on the radio > > and he said that his birthday is September 11th. I > > propose that on the 11th > > we all send a message to Mobility saying happy > > birthday, thanking him, and > > saying how much we appreciate all that he has done > > for music and have Damian > > send these messages to him. It'd be like one big > > electronic birthday card. > > What do you guys and gals think? Damian your > > thoughts? Strangely, I think this could be a killer idea except it would be one big file to download for him I'm sure. Any way we can do this while condensing it? Like giving everyone like four lines or something like that and typing it into one email? ? --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY and NYU Date: 01 Sep 1999 12:03:34 EDT ok...so here is a proposition....i take it that you are going and that there is a chance that you would be able to take a few other friends with you...i'm very close to NYC and would love to attend that show..is there a chance that you would make an invitation to some of us living near NYC to go along with you...just a suggestion..is so...count me in...love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert O. Skipworth" Subject: Re: (mobility) St. Louis Concert Date: 01 Sep 1999 12:08:17 -0500 (CDT) Hello EVeryone Tickets for the St. Louis Show at the Karma Club (which i believe is somewhere on delmar LOVE THAT LOOP!) are available at http://www.metrotix.com I don't know of any physical outlets but i've ordered online from metrotix before and never had a problem. BY THE WAY anyyone going to the st. louis show.... please email me. We shoud all meet up either before or during. rskipwo@comp.uark.edu -----rob On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Steve Giles wrote: > I've been contacted by somebody who wants help finding ticket outlets in St. > Louis and the location of Karma, where it's at. She's from Tuscaloosa and > will be in town when Moby is there, and she's failing miserably at finding > out the info she needs. Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) a shitload of music & film Date: 01 Sep 1999 20:04:37 +0200 Whhhoooohheee :) I must say, I'm beginning to like Norman Cooks music, I got the rare album from Beats International called "Let them eat bingo" and the album Norman did under the name Pizzaman called "Pizza Mania" together for only $6 at a sales bin at a local record store. Not bad huh? These are both WAY better than the stuff he released under the name Fatboy Slim! I also got (for only $3 each!): - Sonic Surfers - Making waves (great euro-house album!) - Recoil - Bloodline (yes, the album with Moby on the song "Curse"!) - Rage - Saviour (great vocal-house album!) - Bizarre Inc. - Energique (great house & early drum 'n' bass) - V/A - House Party (summer '93) (nice mix compilation) - V/A - Hot Sound vol. 3 (some VERY early Dutch house & newbeat) and finally: - Marky Mark & the Funky Bunch - You gotta believe This is a funky kinda rap, I don't like it much though... If you're a bit into oldschool rap, it's really nice, so if you're interested you can buy it for $3.00 + s/h the CD and case are in near mint condition! If yer interested mail me at eijck@iae.nl (If nobody's interested I will probably go to eBay with it, but I first want to know if I can do a Marky Mark fan on this list a favour...) And now for some Moby & friends: The remixes Moby did for Westbams "Bam Bam Bam" KICK ASS!!!! I've never heard the original, but Moby did a GREAT job! And the "Regressive Mix" of "Fall from Grace" Moby did for Eskimos & Egypt is also nice. (hard acid techno) I got these 2 singles at a 2nd hand store a while ago. >On Oct. 1, director Paul Yates plans to >enter Porno in the Sundance Film Festival, the same path to getting >distribution that paid off for his 1998 electronica documentary, >Modulations I saw "Modulations" yesterday!!!!! Now that is a great documentary! It covers EVERYTHING that has to do with electronic music, it had short interviews (often only a few sentences) with dozens of electronic artists like (of cource) Moby, Westbam, Kevin Saunderson, Mixmaster Morris (a cool bald guy just like Moby), the guy that invented the MOOG synth, Juan Atkins, Derrick May and a whole bunch of music journalists/ reviewers, Afrika Bambaata, Carl Cox....etc etc I saw Paul Yates only credited with tiny letters hidden between lots of other names in the ending credits... Here's what our tv-guide said about it: "A very thorough portret of house music. Director Iara Lee shows all styles, the sub-cultures, the origin and the history of electronic dance music. Lee doesn't mention the social and cultural influence, and for the real fans this actually is a blessing...." So Iara Lee was the director, so what did Yates do? Camera work? (<>,,<>) alienated np: Recoil - Curse ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "086" <086@oasisweb.com> Subject: (mobility) Moby Spotting (Thursday 9:00pm Cent) on VH1 Date: 01 Sep 1999 14:36:13 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BEF487.57536CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Moby Spotting: Thursday 9:00pm Central - VH1's Karaoke Cabaret Celebs perform: MOBY, Dr. Ruth, Barry Williams, Fred Schneider, Gordon Elliot.. 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Date: 01 Sep 1999 14:00:41 -0700 (PDT) A MOBY JOKE!!!!! What is green, lives at the bottom of the sea, and weighs 20 tons?????? === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) AND NOW THE PUNCHLINE! Date: 01 Sep 1999 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) MOBY PICKLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :=) yeah, um sorry for the bad vibes. and i guess i do get carried away about S&O but well that show is just so underrated. i dont know. whatever. lets just stop being un-cres and just be happy right? okay bye!!! "SET IT UP DJ!!!!!!!!" === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) AND NOW THE PUNCHLINE! Date: 01 Sep 1999 14:17:45 PDT What's big, green, and lives on the bottom of the ocean? The answer should be this, Paul!!! A: Moby snot, the great green whale! But I guess Moby Pickle works, too. OK. Bye now. :) >From: Phizzo Jobson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby and nyu Date: 01 Sep 1999 17:36:45 EDT to all those skeptics, moby is definitely playing nyu. i got my tickets and they are advertising the show at nyu and in nyu papers. so for those who dont believe me, check it out yourself at nyu's ticket cetral. plus "mobymail" confirms it also. supposedly only nyu students can go - they make u show ID. animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby and nyu Date: 01 Sep 1999 14:58:45 PDT That's how it was when I saw Moby @ last summer's University of Chicago concert. There was no promotion or public listing, it was a school-only thing. I managed to get by the entrance since the ticket girl was flirting with me, but most everybody had to show school IDs. I was lucky to get in so easily, otherwise I would have been listening from outside the courtyard, and listening through brick building, I imagine, is rather difficult. :) -Steve >From: Sarasohn1@aol.com >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) moby and nyu >Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:36:45 EDT > >to all those skeptics, moby is definitely playing nyu. i got my tickets >and >they are advertising the show at nyu and in nyu papers. so for those who >dont >believe me, check it out yourself at nyu's ticket cetral. plus "mobymail" >confirms it also. supposedly only nyu students can go - they make u show >ID. > >animal lib, vegan power > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: (mobility) detroit Date: 01 Sep 1999 22:49:20 EDT the detroit show was spiff. moby left stange and came back on to the crouds roar four times. on top of the usual stuff he played southside, smoke on the water, walk this way, and paranoid [SABBITH!!!]. he didnt play revolver or run on. it was a great show and lasted about two hours. well worth the $17. i got to meet him afterwards. he is quite the charmer. i felt bad because he had his glasses on and i kept on thinking of spud from trinspotting. he must of thought i was a loon. the only donwpoint was no long sleaved t-shirts. it gets hella cold in detroit. for you people at the upcoming shows he only has white Lg play shirts left and hats. oh yes, the boom boom satalites were quite spiff. -jason n . p . aphex twin . saw ii www.mp3.com/wilt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hytinic@aol.com Subject: (mobility) St. Louis show info... and a few questions Date: 01 Sep 1999 23:45:48 EDT Well, SOME info.... =) I called Karma for the umpteenth time, and still have not spoken to a real person... I DID however find out that: 1) The doors open at 9:30, and the show starts at 10pm. 2) Sorry to disappoint Rob, but Karma's message states that they are NOT in the 'loop'. Sorry, bro. =) The address is 1624 Delmar, 3rd floor, rear - in the "loft district." Any questions? Call 314-621-8057, and maybe you'll have better luck than I. I really hate it how clubs give you an option to speak to "management," but there's never a person to answer the phone - just a message asking you to leave a message. =( And finally, no ticket prices. Double =( So, now for the questions part - 1) I know one person mentioned $17, but how much have other Moby shows cost (besides the free ones =)? 2) How much are the t-shirts running? Thanks for any responses... - Chip (in Memphis, soon to be in St. Louis, then in West Fork, AR for another crazy bike competition... (my car is frowning right now... =) n.p. - Placebo - Every You Every Me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) ATTN: ST. LOUIS SHOW Date: 31 Aug 1999 22:55:41 -0500 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN if you need TICKETS FOR THE ST. LOUIS SHOW here is where your browser needs to be http://www.mtix.com/eventdetail.asp?engageid=2313&eventid=6721 this is the metrotix page... the url takes you DIRECTLY to the moby concert info. You can purchase tickets here. they are $13 but i'm sure they'll be more after a service charge. EVERYONE WHO IS UNDER 21 BRING $2 for a minor surcharge Chip..... IF this place isn't on "the loop" :) its got to be pretty close... the loop basically is delmar street... (however.... the metrotix page said it was delmar BOULEVARD.... who knows) I'm hoping its a few blocks away. either way... you should try to check out the loop.. its an awesome place t-shirts are 15 for shortsleeve and 20 for longsleeve... i think hats were 15 but don't quote me on that.... i read an email earlier (can't remember whose) but it said they were out of the long sleeve ones. NONE of the shirts had a tour schedule on it. I didn't particularly care for that... but oh well, what can i do about it? Your St. Louis Concert Connection -----Rob Hytinic@aol.com wrote: > Well, SOME info.... =) > > I called Karma for the umpteenth time, and still have not spoken to a > real person... > I DID however find out that: > > 1) The doors open at 9:30, and the show starts at 10pm. > 2) Sorry to disappoint Rob, but Karma's message states that they are NOT > in the 'loop'. Sorry, bro. =) The address is 1624 Delmar, 3rd floor, rear > - in the "loft district." Any questions? Call 314-621-8057, and maybe you'll > have better luck than I. > > I really hate it how clubs give you an option to speak to "management," > but there's never a person to answer the phone - just a message asking you to > leave a message. =( > > And finally, no ticket prices. Double =( > > So, now for the questions part - > > 1) I know one person mentioned $17, but how much have other Moby shows > cost (besides the free ones =)? > > 2) How much are the t-shirts running? > > Thanks for any responses... > > - Chip (in Memphis, soon to be in St. Louis, then in West Fork, AR for > another crazy bike competition... (my car is frowning right now... =) > n.p. - Placebo - Every You Every Me -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) Kansas City Show Date: 31 Aug 1999 23:16:01 -0500 Hi Everybody, Moby is playing at the Kansas City Spirit Fest friday night (i think) someone posted an URL for the spirit fest and i've looked everywhere for that email.... so if its not to much trouble... could you post it again???????? also... anyone going to the kansas city show????? ----rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) coachella tickets.. . Date: 02 Sep 1999 00:22:51 -0700 > I'm hoping to talk my bf into taking me to PS for the show. How much were > tix and are they still on sale? I'm not sure what we'll be doing but > we're currently working on details. Yes, if I can swing it I would love > to buy your tix. Were they very much? *sigh* I'm so worried we won't be > able to get tix for both days. (Well, only if MOBY and MORRISSEY are > playing different days.) > > --kimby hi kimby :) I'm talking to someone who might be buying them from me, i should know for sure in a couple of days. I think the tickets are still on sale. If you can, I'd recommend going to a Ticketmaster outlet, rather than buying over the phone or internet, because they automatically add a 20 dollar shipping fee, which you have to finagle yr way out of. anyway, they cost me $120.50 (without the expensive shipping) for both days. I'll email you if the person I'm talking to decides not to buy them :) laura! -- To me, it's a good idea to always carry two sacks of something when you walk around. That way, if anybody says: Hey, can you give me a hand? You can say: Sorry, got these sacks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: one woman army Subject: (mobility) new member Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:29:37 -0400 (EDT) hello! i am the latest installment to this list and so under pressure from suggestions for joining this list.... name: irene age: 21 i have 'moby', 'everything is wrong', 'voodoo child', 'move', 'play', and the singles 'bodyrock' and 'what love' i was introduced to moby by my, then, boyfriend in 1996 and now am an avid fan of his music and am continually intrigued by his politics/philosophies i am also an avid fan of: massive attack, r.e.m., radiohead, portishead, magnetic fields, patti smith, the tindersticks, the the, tortoise, the smiths, ella fitzgerald, miles davis, lightnin' hopkins, sonny terry and brownie mcghee, the slits, aphex twin, u-ziq, autechre, tricky, cibo matto, the sea and cake, soul coughing, yo la tengo, galaxie 500, luna, velvet underground, marvin gaye, james brown, curtis mayfield, isaac hayes, de la soul, pharcyde, the roots, lewis parker,...and the list goes on.... (music is my life) irene :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) =>AIR<= Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:48:00 -0400 Bart, I went out and bought AIR. I'd like to talk to you about it. please email me. - Jayson jgmagnus@bkb.com -----Original Message----- ------- And now totally off-topic: =>AIR<= I've been planning to get their album Moon Safari since the moment it was released, but I never found the time or money to buy it. UNTIL NOW!...................IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD! If I were to go to a deserted island, and I could choose between Moby's Play and Air's Moon Safari as the only music to bring along I would probably take Moon Safari, not that I'm not a huge Moby fan, (people who have been on this list a bit longer know that I'm a real Moby-addict...) but Moon Safari is so damn GREAT! :) "Be it downtown or way up in the air When your heart's pounding You know that I'm aware" [Air] Bart (<>,,<>) who is very :)happy right now because he just found out that the girl who was his first real love goes to the same school as he does, perhaps the little alien guy Bart still has a chance....who knows. np: AIR - Ce Matin La ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) new member Date: 02 Sep 1999 12:06:00 -0400 You know what I keep telling myself? That I need to date a woman who enjoys music & movies as much as I do. I talk about music and movies with my friends all the time. Why can't I date a woman who enjoys these things? I always end up dating someone who is a very nice person, but I have nothing in common with so it doesn't last very long. That's why I enjoy this list. Everyone REALLY is INTO music of one kind or another (for the most part). It doesn't HAVE to be Moby, but it's nice to see. - Jayson -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:29 AM hello! i am the latest installment to this list and so under pressure from suggestions for joining this list.... name: irene age: 21 i have 'moby', 'everything is wrong', 'voodoo child', 'move', 'play', and the singles 'bodyrock' and 'what love' i was introduced to moby by my, then, boyfriend in 1996 and now am an avid fan of his music and am continually intrigued by his politics/philosophies i am also an avid fan of: massive attack, r.e.m., radiohead, portishead, magnetic fields, patti smith, the tindersticks, the the, tortoise, the smiths, ella fitzgerald, miles davis, lightnin' hopkins, sonny terry and brownie mcghee, the slits, aphex twin, u-ziq, autechre, tricky, cibo matto, the sea and cake, soul coughing, yo la tengo, galaxie 500, luna, velvet underground, marvin gaye, james brown, curtis mayfield, isaac hayes, de la soul, pharcyde, the roots, lewis parker,...and the list goes on.... (music is my life) irene :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) countdown to pittsburgh Date: 02 Sep 1999 12:37:24 -0400 only five more days till moby comes to p-burgh!!!! i am so excited (and i just can't hide it!!) he's so fucking cool. j ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave \"DT007\" Toews" Subject: (mobility) A question for all you Moby lovers... Date: 02 Sep 1999 15:23:19 -0300 Hey all.. A quick question.. Is it illegal to make .mp3's from singles? Because some of my friends want me to get the Memory Gospel (the song played on the Adidias commertial) make it into a .mp3 and give it to them.. I mean its not like I woulden't do it if it was illegal, but it just seems to me that if an artist releases a single, that it would be good promotion to get it on the net.. Anyway, just wondering.. DT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) A question for all you Moby lovers... Date: 02 Sep 1999 13:40:58 -0500 (CDT) > Is it illegal to make .mp3's from singles? Because some of my friends want Simply put YES. Without permission from the original copyright holder it is criminally and civilly illegal to DISTRIBUTE copies. You can, for your own purposes(say make anmp3 for your portable player or computer) make copies, but not give them away or sell them to your friends or the public in general. However there are two sides to this coin. The legal issue, which is clear cut and obvious and the ethical issue which is not so clear cut. What I mean is, obviously the law says don't do this, but given the pragmatics of the situation, the law is effectively moot--that is there is a VERY small chance that you would be procecuted or find yourself in civil court. SInce there is no legal repurcussion, we have to ask ourselfs, should we still do it? There are many schools of thought on this, but generally if you copy and distribute mp3s because you don't want to pay for the actual album, it is wrong and you shouldn't do it. If you want to make and mp3 for someone to sample to see if they like it, then I would say it is okay, as long as they buy the album if they like it or delete it if they don't in a reasonable amount of time, say 30 days max or something. This would satisfy your "promotion" idea without outright stealing. It would also be acceptable if you had MP3s of extremely rare stuff, or live stuff that the artist hasn't/will not release commercially; however, the second they do so you should patronize the commercial release. You have to ask yourself--if I like the music on this mp3 enough to keep the MP3, do I respect the artist who made the mp3 enough not to steal it from him? To pay them for their talent so they can continue to make good music? Chris Bourke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) A question for all you Moby lovers... Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:45:58 -0700 Dave \"DT007\" Toews wrote: > Hey all.. A quick question.. > Is it illegal to make .mp3's from singles? Because some of my friends want > me to get the Memory Gospel (the song played on the Adidias commertial) make > it into a .mp3 and give it to them.. > As far as I know, it's NOT Illegal to MAKE mp3's but it IS Illegal to DISTRIBUTE them. I know w/ roms it's like if you have the real game, you can keep the downloaded rom but it you don't, you can only store it for 24 hours. But who would ever know you know? Up to you. My ex has thousands of MP3's on his works site and they were only available for his workmates but that's still highly illegal. Whatever. Hope that helped. --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) calvin klein? Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:53:01 PDT sup, just read an article on Moby and they say Moby has been selected as a model for Calvin Klein's fall 2000 jeans CRAP!!! well, Moby certainly enjoys fat checks in tha mail... peace djAHIMSA ...oh by tha way, Welcome Irene, tha more tha merrier, quite eclectic music taste, i like, i like...have you heard Muziq new album, absolutely brilliant, now this is tha music of tha future, classical and electronic meet harmoniously!!! outa 'ere ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) calvin klein? Date: 02 Sep 1999 12:22:14 -0700 > > >just read an article on Moby and they say Moby has been selected as a model > >for Calvin Klein's fall 2000 jeans CRAP!!! > > >well, Moby certainly enjoys fat checks in tha mail... Yeah, but doesn't he usually dontate that stuff? I mean, didn't he donate like a nice big check to a charity when he allowed some company to use "GMOFW" for a car comercial? Yeah. I think. :-) I dunno, I think things like that are slightly bad for a person's image, well, a MOBY type person's image. I mean, Madona or Carmen Electra could hawk CK but MOBY? I think that wouldn't look right but if he gave the money to a good cause, then who can really complain? I think if I were in a similar position, I would do it just because. Just for shock and for fun. And ofcourse I would probably give the money away too. I do believe in giving to others if you have more than you need. Which leads me to want to say "If you can't donate, volunteer...at least for like a few months every once and a while." It makes you feel really good. Which is kinda selfish. I suck, ok, please don't kill me. :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) something to cheer things up... Date: 02 Sep 1999 10:02:16 +0200 Phizzo Jobson wrote: > > A MOBY JOKE!!!!! > > What is green, lives at the bottom of the sea, and > weighs 20 tons?????? God moving...? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) A question for all you Moby lovers... Date: 02 Sep 1999 21:27:32 +0200 >Hey all.. A quick question.. >Is it illegal to make .mp3's from singles? If you make the mp3's from singles you already own for yourself (for in your RIO or something) it's not illegal, but if you sell them or even GIVE them away it's illegal! I think the copyright laws concerning the use of CDR's also apply to mp3z I must admit that every now and then I also download an mp3, but I only do it because I can't find the original CD... I believe that this mp3/CDR revolution is killing the music industry! In the early '90s, compilation CDs still had the WHOLE song on them, and now almost everytime the last and the first 3 seconds of a song are mixed over into another song. How did this happen do you think? :( (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) new member Date: 02 Sep 1999 15:29:16 -0400 the woman has taste dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility)MP3s Date: 02 Sep 1999 15:37:07 -0400 Well the music industry is in afervor over this topic but the fact of the matter is, while the old law of copyrighted material still exists, there are many corporate and label-owned sites that offer free downloads of mp3's. As an career artist myself(albeit not a money hungry one) I have no problem with mp3's as long as the artist and label info is included in the file. As a human being, I don't get the mp3 thing, I'd much rather listen to the cd than convert the music listening experience into a sound card based point and click experience. But thats just me. I'm the kind of guy who has 200W cd player in his car, and 500W amp, receiver, 200 cd player, dual cassette 8 remote control home stereo. But that's just me, like i said. I take the listening very seriously, I'm the kind of guy who tells you to be quiet during the songs. =)dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) new member Date: 02 Sep 1999 21:29:01 +0200 WOWIE ZOWIE! comPassion at last! Jayson i love you! Go! Move! Feel Real! jgmagnus@bkb.com wrote: > > You know what I keep telling myself? That I need to date a woman who enjoys > music & movies as much as I do. I talk about music and movies with my friends > all the time. Why can't I date a woman who enjoys these things? I always end up > dating someone who is a very nice person, but I have nothing in common with so > it doesn't last very long. > > That's why I enjoy this list. Everyone REALLY is INTO music of one kind or > another (for the most part). It doesn't HAVE to be Moby, but it's nice to see. > > - Jayson > > -----Original Message----- > name: irene > age: 21 > i have 'moby', 'everything is wrong', 'voodoo child', 'move', 'play', and > the singles 'bodyrock' and 'what love' > i was introduced to moby by my, then, boyfriend in 1996 and now am an avid > fan of his music and am continually intrigued by his > politics/philosophies > i am also an avid fan of: massive attack, r.e.m., radiohead, portishead, > magnetic fields, patti smith, the tindersticks, WAH! WAH! tindersticks fans are the best! of the nineties! yo thought Talk Talk was low... ha Tindersticks isnt that Swedish? Wauw LOW the the, tortoise, > the smiths, ella fitzgerald, miles davis, lightnin' hopkins, sonny > terry and brownie mcghee, the slits, aphex twin, u-ziq, autechre, > tricky, cibo matto, the sea and cake, soul coughing, yo la tengo, > galaxie 500, luna, velvet underground, marvin gaye, james brown, > curtis mayfield, isaac hayes, de la soul, pharcyde, the roots, > lewis parker,...and the list goes on.... (music is my life) > > irene :) all these names... i have in my various closets wowie zowie! what a musical wave! Patti Smith! WOOOHOOO kees -- --------------- "and when even i shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) calvin klein? Date: 02 Sep 1999 15:47:33 -0400 >>read an article on Moby and they say Moby has been selected as a model > > >for Calvin Klein's fall 2000 jeans CRAP!!! > > > > >well, Moby certainly enjoys fat checks in tha mail... I hate commercialism as much as the next guy(not really, I couldn't care less actually) but if some world famous designer came up to me and asked me to be a model in a couple of photos, you better believe I'd get my ass in those jeans, money or no money. This has nothing to do with money, it has to do with getting your 100 ft poster plastered on the side of a manhattan building. That and being able to say that you modeled for Calvin Klein. Sometimes I think people on this list miss a few links in the moby psyche. Sure he's a down to earth peace love harmony and the punk lifestyle kinda guy, but he has that rock star drive. There isn't a single successful musician out there who doesn't have it. I don't know if you noticed this but every time moby opens his mouth he talks about how his music affects others, and how others react to him. "I make the music for myself" is just insecurity, or lack of drive. We(musicians) tend not to attempt to make music that shouldn't be heard. "We do it for the chicks"~old 80s rock idealogy. dave that talks too much ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) coachella tickets.. . Date: 02 Sep 1999 15:57:59 EDT Laura, I hope you got my e-mail from a few days ago. I still need to know whether the tickets you have can be used on one day. I want to take my GF with me to the shows, but I want to go Saturday, seeing that I work Sundays. Let me know. Thanks. Bill Fleming BFle123456@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mobyee@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) detroit Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:13:06 EDT all i have to say about this is that because of me at the detroit show he played southside...which was really kick ass. i was right up front, dead center, and it was the best place to be. ~courtney~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Bodyrock remixes... Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:47:36 EDT ok...i know i'm a little late but i've just received my copy of bodyrock..Arp is very good but it gets weird at the end...if anyone has the TWIRFMR single, you notice that the end part of Arp is actually a song in itself that he put on the TWIRFMR single...i didn't like that too much but that is his choice...the Hybrid remix is very nice..makes my bodyrock without a doubt.... why do i sound like a freakin critic....take care..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I went!!!!!! Date: 02 Sep 1999 19:49:40 EDT OHMIGOD!!!!!!! I WENT TO THE MOBY SHOW IN DETROIT AND I'M STILL BLOWN AWAY!!!!! IT WAS JUST AMISING!!! I'M SEARIOUSLY SHOCKED!!! HE PREFORMS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!! WHEN "Feeling so Real" CAME ON I JUST STARTED CRYING!!!! Um...anyways...I'm done! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Honeychurch" Subject: (mobility) Moby in Australia Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:13:26 +1000 I tried posting this a couple of weeks ago but our mail firewall didn't = like it and refused to let it out. I think it may have been the s_x in = s_x pistols, but I'm going to keep trying to mail it, censoring it a bit = at a time until I get it through.... Okay, that didn't work so I'm going to send it in two parts and see which = one's causing the problem... Last weekend Australian TV channel ABC had Moby guest programming on their = late night music show Rage. This is what he chose: 11:50pm Just Like Heaven Cure, The Warner=20 Ghost Town Specials, The Sony=20 Insomnia Faithless Festival=20 Safe From Harm Massive Attack V_rgin (He said = they're his favourite band at the moment) Cross Bones Style Cat Power MDS (They used to = practice in his basement) Drinking In L.A. Bran Van 3000 EMI=20 Inner Meet Me Beta Band Modular=20 Natural One Folk Implosion Polydor=20 Mockingbirds Grant Lee Buffalo Mushroom=20 Send His Love To Me PJ Harvey Mercury=20 12:30am Heart Of Glass Blondie EMI (He said she looks = like she's on the tail-end of a 3 week drugs bender) Remember Me Blue Boy Mushroom=20 Enjoy The Silence Depeche Mode Mushroom=20 Atmosphere Joy Division Festival=20 Protection Massive Attack V_rgin=20 Six Underground Sneaker Pimps V_rgin=20 1:00am Gold Dust Woman Hole Polydor=20 Looking Out My Back Door Creedence Clearwater Revival = Festival (An old favourite of his) Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Polydor=20 Instant Karma John Lennon EMI (Loved it after he = saw it on a Nike TV commercial) Senses Working Overtime XTC V_rgin=20 We Are The Champions Queen EMI=20 Don't Change INXS Warner=20 One U2 Polydor=20 1:30am Little Drummer Boy David Bowie & Bing Crosby EMI=20 Hurt Nine Inch Nails Warner=20 Hey Man Nice Shot Filter Warner=20 The Mercy Seat Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds Mushroom=20= Release The Bats Birthday Party, The - Live = Mushroom=20 Lust For Life Iggy Pop V_rgin=20 Anarchy In The U.K. S_x Pistols V_rgin=20 2:00am Poison Prodigy, The Sony=20 Welcome To The Terrordome Public Enemy Sony=20 Hip Hop Hooray Naughty By Nature Mushroom=20 Mama Said Knock You Out LL Cool J Sony=20 California Love 2 Pac featuring Dr. Dre Mercury=20 Regulate Warren G & Nate Dogg Warner=20 That's When I Reach For My Revolver Moby Warner=20 2:30am Girl U Want Devo Warner=20 Unfinished Sympathy Massive Attack V_rgin=20 Karmacoma Massive Attack V_rgin=20 James Bond Theme Moby Warner=20 Run On Moby Mushroom=20 Bodyrock Moby Mushroom After this, some new releases were played and then the ARIA Top 50 was on, = taking the program to 7:00am. I managed to record everything except for = the first five minutes. The bits in brackets are what I remember of = Moby's comments on his choices. continued... ***** IMPORTANT INFORMATION ***** This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed and its content is not intended for use by any other persons. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. Any unauthorised form of reproduction of this message is strictly prohibited. St.George is not liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication, nor for any delay in its receipt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Honeychurch" Subject: (mobility) Moby in Australia (2nd Half) Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:36:49 +1000 Right, this is the problem half so I'll keep trying.... As well as the playlist, this was also on the Rage web page (http://www.abc= .net.au/rage/rage.htm) about Moby: When Moby first erupted onto the rave arena with the Twin Peaks = sampling Go, little did the world realise just how far this New Yorker would go to confound = the public. From house innovator to techno punk originator, thrash metal rocker to = inadvertent soundtracker and composer, Moby has travelled disparate musical terrains with an = insatiable thirst for fresh sounds and spiritual energy. It's been a long and varied = journey and one which laughs in the face of the accepted take on eclecticism. Not for Moby the safe = bet. Moby, you see is one of music's true mavericks. Most of the cliches attached to Moby - = strident environmentalist, Christian, non-drinker, non-dr_g taker - have kind of fallen by = the wayside over the last few years as his take on the world has become more and more = ambiguous.=20 Born in New York and raised in Connecticut, Moby's father died = when he was only two. Subsequently he was brought up by his mother, an open minded = woman who encouraged Moby to pursue whatever creative avenues appealed to him. By = the time Moby was ten he was actively learning classical guitar, something which held = him in good stead for the punk explosion which attracted him in his teens. By his twenties he = had been involved in bands as disparate as speed metal kids The Vatican Commandos, anarchist = noise combo Flipper and critically acclaimed 4AD band Ultra Vivid Scene. With Moby's love of new in music it was inevitable that he = would be drawn to the house scene in the late 80s. His early singles were staples of the = rave scene, with Go storming the top ten in the UK. With 1995's Everything is Wrong album - his = first true long player, the previous releases being little more than collections - he could = be found pouring the styles that he'd grown up with into a hybrid of house, rock, h_rdcore, = th_ash and jungle, all laced with more than a touch of drama. The singles Hymn, Feeling So Real = and Everytime You Touch Me revealed Moby's ability to create uniquely moving music. With Moby's appearance playing on 1995's Lollapallooza came the = realisation that he had eschewed his dance roots and gone back to the h_rdcore thrash = punk of his youth. A tryptych composed of industrial punk, speedcore and heartbreakin= g instrumentals, the following year's Animal Rights album was a stab in the back for = purism of any kind. "It was an intentionally abrasive, misanthropic record." he recalls. = Around the same time he also released The End of Everything, an album of breathtaking = synthetic orchestrations, under the pseudonym Voodoo Child. In 1997 Moby released I Like To Score, a compilatioin of some = of the many of his tracks which have been used in movies. Among these was the breakbeat-dr= iven version of the universally recognisable James Bond Theme , a single which not = only represented Moby's return to the dance arena but also hinted a new found love of = hip hop, a genre explored in a little more relaxed way on his latest opus Play. If Play were a theatrical performance it would be in three = acts. Act one finds Moby building his music around field recordings of indigenous black music = from the early 20th century. Act two features Moby himself on vocal duties. The final act is = represented by the quietly reflective instrumental tracks. The glue that holds the entire = performance together is provided by the breaks of hip hop. Fear not because the overall effect = is often moving, occasionally spooky and always breathtaking. He plays everything from classical guitar to Roland 303, he's = played everything from thr_sh metal to hands in the air techno, he's remixed everyone from = Michael Jackson to Metallica and he's turned down production offers from Hole and Guns 'n = Roses. One thing is certain about Moby - he can still surprise. With Play Moby has = delivered another stunning head turner. And the best bit is, you get the feeling that there's = still so much more to come from NYC's favourite maverick. Moby was also on ABC's Recovery on Saturday morning where he was interviewe= d by a badly drawn cartoon kid, although there doesn't seem to be anything = on their website (http://www.abc.net.au/recovery/recovery.htm) about it. 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I am new to the list and want to see if anyone on this list lives here. And of course this applies to Moby& crew if he really reads this. Just reply. Blake - Beacwork@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Australia Date: 03 Sep 1999 09:33:02 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) God, Moby chose my favourite Cure, P.J. Harvey and Massive Attack songs. Plus I can't believe he chose The Beta Band, let alone the song Inner Meet Me - one of my favs from them. What an excellent collection of music - Oh yeah Creedence Clearwater Revival as well - nice ones! TMB On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:13:26 +1000 Mark Honeychurch wrote: > I tried posting this a couple of weeks ago but our mail firewall didn't like it and refused to let it out. I think it may have been the s_x in s_x pistols, but I'm going to keep trying to mail it, censoring it a bit at a time until I get it through.... > > Okay, that didn't work so I'm going to send it in two parts and see which one's causing the problem... > > Last weekend Australian TV channel ABC had Moby guest programming on their late night music show Rage. > > This is what he chose: > > 11:50pm > Just Like Heaven Cure, The Warner > Ghost Town Specials, The Sony > Insomnia Faithless Festival > Safe From Harm Massive Attack V_rgin (He said they're his favourite band at the moment) > Cross Bones Style Cat Power MDS (They used to practice in his basement) > Drinking In L.A. Bran Van 3000 EMI > Inner Meet Me Beta Band Modular > Natural One Folk Implosion Polydor > Mockingbirds Grant Lee Buffalo Mushroom > Send His Love To Me PJ Harvey Mercury > 12:30am > Heart Of Glass Blondie EMI (He said she looks like she's on the tail-end of a 3 week drugs bender) > Remember Me Blue Boy Mushroom > Enjoy The Silence Depeche Mode Mushroom > Atmosphere Joy Division Festival > Protection Massive Attack V_rgin > Six Underground Sneaker Pimps V_rgin > 1:00am > Gold Dust Woman Hole Polydor > Looking Out My Back Door Creedence Clearwater Revival Festival (An old favourite of his) > Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Polydor > Instant Karma John Lennon EMI (Loved it after he saw it on a Nike TV commercial) > Senses Working Overtime XTC V_rgin > We Are The Champions Queen EMI > Don't Change INXS Warner > One U2 Polydor > 1:30am > Little Drummer Boy David Bowie & Bing Crosby EMI > Hurt Nine Inch Nails Warner > Hey Man Nice Shot Filter Warner > The Mercy Seat Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds Mushroom > Release The Bats Birthday Party, The - Live Mushroom > Lust For Life Iggy Pop V_rgin > Anarchy In The U.K. S_x Pistols V_rgin > 2:00am > Poison Prodigy, The Sony > Welcome To The Terrordome Public Enemy Sony > Hip Hop Hooray Naughty By Nature Mushroom > Mama Said Knock You Out LL Cool J Sony > California Love 2 Pac featuring Dr. Dre Mercury > Regulate Warren G & Nate Dogg Warner > That's When I Reach For My Revolver Moby Warner > 2:30am > Girl U Want Devo Warner > Unfinished Sympathy Massive Attack V_rgin > Karmacoma Massive Attack V_rgin > James Bond Theme Moby Warner > Run On Moby Mushroom > Bodyrock Moby Mushroom > > After this, some new releases were played and then the ARIA Top 50 was on, taking the program to 7:00am. I managed to record everything except for the first five minutes. The bits in brackets are what I remember of Moby's comments on his choices. > > continued... > > > ***** IMPORTANT INFORMATION ***** > This document should be read only by those persons to whom > it is addressed and its content is not intended for use by > any other persons. If you have received this message in > error, please notify us immediately. Please also destroy and > delete the message from your computer. Any unauthorised form > of reproduction of this message is strictly prohibited. > > St.George is not liable for the proper and complete transmission > of the information contained in this communication, nor for any > delay in its receipt. > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Australia Date: 03 Sep 1999 09:56:25 +0100 Okay, something of a tangent, so please be nice. Please? :-) I saw Moby played the Sneaker Pimps. Apparently they're back, but without Kelly, the singer. Has anyone heard their new stuff? Is it any good? The reason I ask is that I saw them live a few years ago, and basically they were the band I wanted to be when I was 17. Slowed down, grunged up, gently abusing old analogue keyboards, oh yes. Maybe it's worth renewing the acquaintance. Much Love, Ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Trousers?= Subject: Re: (mobility)MP3s Date: 03 Sep 1999 02:52:54 -0700 (PDT) "...we (musicians)" "...a career artist" what's that then? are u really some famous muso that hides behind a clark kent alias, or wot? === ...chasing the love dream __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: (mobility)MP3s Date: 03 Sep 1999 11:00:50 +0100 Or possibly like those of us who turn tunes out for the fun of it, but haven't quite got the talent of our heroes? But we're working on it. An observation : I've been doing this music thing for about 10 years now, and not a sniff of female interest. Humph. Much Love, Ian -----Original Message----- Sent: 03 September 1999 10:53 "...we (musicians)" "...a career artist" what's that then? are u really some famous muso that hides behind a clark kent alias, or wot? === ...chasing the love dream __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) remix bodyrock yourself Date: 03 Sep 1999 13:05:28 -0400 Got this bit of info when i sent to Mobymail@aol.com asking about merchandise. It is pretty cool, have been playing with it since yesterday. A lot better than the ETYTM remix thing on Disk, also has a unique remix by Moby, try out its neat. Keith www.beatnik.com NP - Voodoo Child - Voodoo Child(remixes)12" damn why didn't anyone say how cool this is ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: Re: (mobility) remix bodyrock yourself Date: 03 Sep 1999 10:12:31 -0700 >Got this bit of info when i sent to Mobymail@aol.com asking about >merchandise. It is pretty cool, have been playing with it since >yesterday. A lot better than the ETYTM remix thing on Disk, also has a >unique remix by Moby, try out its neat. Keith > www.beatnik.com >NP - Voodoo Child - Voodoo Child(remixes)12" damn why didn't anyone say >how cool this is Hey can you elaborate on what you mean? Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephanie Momose" Subject: Re: (mobility) =-AIR-= Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:00:12 PDT Hey... Can I get a quick review of it? Whenever you get the chance. Thx. Steph srmomo@hotmail.com > Bart, > > I went out and bought AIR. I'd like to talk to you about it. please >email >me. > > - Jayson > jgmagnus@bkb.com > >-----Original Message----- >------- >And now totally off-topic: =>AIR<= > >I've been planning to get their album Moon Safari since the moment >it was released, but I never found the time or money to buy it. >UNTIL NOW!...................IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD! >If I were to go to a deserted island, and I could choose between >Moby's Play and Air's Moon Safari as the only music to bring along >I would probably take Moon Safari, not that I'm not a huge Moby fan, >(people who have been on this list a bit longer know that I'm a real >Moby-addict...) but Moon Safari is so damn GREAT! :) > >"Be it downtown or way up in the air > When your heart's pounding > You know that I'm aware" > >[Air] > >Bart (<>,,<>) who is very :)happy right now because he just found >out that the girl who was his first real love goes to the same school as >he does, perhaps the little alien guy Bart still has a chance....who knows. > >np: AIR - Ce Matin La > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) yay for college radio! Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:05:52 -0700 (PDT) i love my local college radio station! they rock! i just called them and requested "why does my heart feel so bad" like maybe 15 minutes ago and he's playing it right now! and he said before playing it, "and next up is a request from a girl that sounded like this song was important for her to hear and means something to her even though it's called 'why does my heart feel so bad'...by moby from his newest release Play" i didn't think i sounded that _desperate_ when i requested it!! :D *laugh* anyway...just thought i'd share my joy...and the next pledge drive they have they are definitely getting more money from me! (oh btw it's KCMU 90.3FM in seattle...kcmu.org just for a little plug) sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html "tell the truth you never wanted me... ...tell me" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) check this out Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:21:26 -0700 (PDT) my pal sent me dis wun..... --- Jonathan Singletary wrote: > > > Jah callin wrote: > > > > Funny anectdote for all you Moby fans... I saw > Moby at a free show in Boston > > last Thursday night and lucky for me I was in the > front row, and when I could > > take my eyes and attention away from Greta long > enough to enjoy the man and > > music I love so much it was one of the best live > shows I've seen in my life.... > > (and hey that includes Aerosmith, theQueers AND > some of the best speedpunk and > > hardcore bands this city ahs to > offer.....aerosmith was a joke btw) Anyway in > > between songs he said to the audience "Who has a > phone?" as the skunk weed > > smoking ride wrencher next to me lifted up his > Nokia..Mobys DJ handed him a > > cell phone..as Moby dialed he spoke into the > microphone "My friend Nat is > > having her wisdom teeth pulled out tomorrow and > shes a bit scared ...lets all > > say 'Hello'!" It rang for a long time and he > finally got her voicemail..he > > spoke into the phone "Hello Nat its me Moby I have > some people who would like > > to say 'Hi' to you," he held the phone high into > the air as the crowd screamed > > "HI NAT!" he spoke into the phone again "thats > them Nat, I'll call you later" > > and he hung up. He smiled to the crowd and said > "Now if you were having your > > wisdom teeth pulled wouldn't you want 20,000 > people to say hello to you?" The > > crowd went wild and he broke into another bitchin > song. Well as it turned out > > the girl "Nat" he called ended up being actress > Natalie Portman (the > > professional, phantom menace) isn't he a > sweetheart and a good friend. Blessed > > be the Moby. > > will > > weird!!! > -- > __ > > Jon > > 332.5128 > icq: 21047350 > jwsingle@uiuc.edu > http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/ {{{{{my > artwork online} > __ > _______ > ________________ > ______________________________ > ____________________________________________ > _________________________________________________________________ > === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Chicks dig guys in bands... Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:40:55 -0700 > > > > >An observation : I've been doing this music thing for about 10 years now, > >and not a sniff of female interest. Humph. > Do guys join bands to get chicks? Really? I'm sure not all do. Funny how it works sometimes. I was totally in love w/ a local band when I was a wee lass. Very cute boys. *sigh* Those were good times. Hrmph, I wonder what got MOBY started and if female companionship had anything to do w/it. (And I did want to make this a semi MOBY related post. :-) Aw, boys will be boys. --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) remix bodyrock yourself, picutres, Shopwell Date: 03 Sep 1999 12:38:21 PDT Keith was comparing the new Bodyrock interactive remix with the Everytime You Touch Me remix on the multimedia portion of Moby 'Disk'. The Bodyrock do it yourself remix is at beatnik.com. And the Voodoo Child remixes 12" certainly IS very good. My favorite is my R & S records release of Voodoo Child w/ Slight return on it. The concert pictures added to moby.org are great, go check them out everybody, and thanks Rob & Dan! I got my Shopwell record today and there's all sort of goofy inserts. I tell you all about this industrial noise tomorrow, if time permits. :) -Steve >From: Jeff Logan >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) remix bodyrock yourself >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:12:31 -0700 > >>Got this bit of info when i sent to Mobymail@aol.com asking about >>merchandise. It is pretty cool, have been playing with it since >>yesterday. A lot better than the ETYTM remix thing on Disk, also has a >>unique remix by Moby, try out its neat. Keith >> www.beatnik.com >>NP - Voodoo Child - Voodoo Child(remixes)12" damn why didn't anyone say >>how cool this is > > >Hey can you elaborate on what you mean? > >Jeff > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) sum things.... Date: 03 Sep 1999 13:11:18 -0700 (PDT) hey, bert! just checked the Billboard charts, Play is down to 3hree on heatseekers, so its not in the top 100 yet.... BODYROCK is 7 on the dance charts, and inevitably itll be #1 in a week or so... I still havent seen MTV play the video yet! or VH1, they supposedly have the vid in rotation too!/ Massive Attack is a VERY good band to be temporarily obsessed with! Good choice, Moby! I'm a Pixies freak now tho, them and TMBG still (i lsitened to particle man 6ix times yesterday! they are the bomb!!!!!) Can somebody pleez ask Moby if they get the chance if he likes TMBG or Pixies, especially PIXIES? jsut wondering. i didnt get to talk to him.... however DAVO and ANNETTE did. i have GOT to get to WPKN soon and meet with them, I gotta know what MMOBY's tour bus looks like! anybody know? coming soon: THE MOBY AWARDS!!!!! hosted by BJORK. I'lll post the categories and presenters soon..... bye! PS no the MOBY awards are not for real, dont get all exited, calm down... === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) wun more thing... Date: 03 Sep 1999 13:15:39 -0700 (PDT) about that joke, In case anyone cares, my uncle said that joke to me. See we were saying all these lame jokes (like What is yellow and always points north? a magnetic banana!) so he told me that. hes never heard of MOBY so there ya go. Hey Steve, I like my version better than the snot one ;) hey dude wheres my tape!?!?!? also, i saw the BLUR video yesterday! ive seen it before on 120 but i never saw MTV actually PLAY it! cool! ther IS hope! now if they would only play more WEIRD AL....... oh yes and that MOBY guy tooo.... BYE!! PHIZZO "makes all your dreams come true" ;) === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) my attempt to remix Moby Date: 03 Sep 1999 23:15:55 +0200 Steve wrote: >Keith was comparing the new Bodyrock interactive remix with the Everytime >You Touch Me remix on the multimedia portion of Moby 'Disk'. The Bodyrock do >it yourself remix is at beatnik.com. And the Voodoo Child remixes 12" >certainly IS very good. My favorite is my R & S records release of Voodoo >Child w/ Slight return on it. Damn... I still haven't got my remix 12" from eBay... the guy I bought it from is really taking his time! Oh, and I've also made a little Bodyrock remix! I have recorded it on MiniDisc and then compressed it into .wma format. (I can also make an mp3...) It's called: Moby - Bodyrock (Bart's electro mix) and the .wma is about 2.55 Mb. It has a sort of early '90s minimal electronic sound and is a nice kind of background music, it is totally different from the mixes that can be listened to @ www.beatnik.com It has pretty crappy soundquality, but what do you expect from streamed audio through a 33k6 connection..... Perhaps someone with a homepage can host for me??? please e-mail me at eijck@iae.nl I also finally got Disk running, but the old Quicktime version really f#cked up my system!! Grrrrrrrrr! :( (<>,,<>) PS. Stephanie, I'll write you a nice little review of Moon Safari as soon as I can find some time... OK? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maggie Dean" Subject: Re: (mobility) St. Louis show info... and a few questions Date: 03 Sep 1999 16:45:55 CDT >1) I know one person mentioned $17, but how much have other Moby >shows >cost (besides the free ones =)? the show is $13 in advance....$15 dos and there is a $2 minor surcharge. go to www.metrotix.com--this is the stl online ticket center (like ticketmaster). there should also be directions to the venue etc. at the site. i live in stl....it's at a place called karma....kinda a hole in the wall and is not marked--basically look for a large parking lot off delmar (the street it's on) before 18th i think...it's free to parkthere....the club is in the warahouse right next to the lot (i think there are 2 double doors or something and there might be a small sign that's says karma)....the doors open at 9pm and the opening act it boom boom satellite (fyi if you didn't know). hope this helps maggie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert O. Skipworth" Subject: Re: (mobility) remix bodyrock yourself, picutr Date: 03 Sep 1999 17:41:23 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Steve Giles wrote: > The concert pictures added to moby.org are great, go check them out > everybody, and thanks Rob & Dan! > Justed wanted to let you know that i should have pics from the st. louis show scanned in by wednesday at the latest. Anyone who hasn't seen a show needs to check out the pictures of "1000". They don't come close to conveying the feeling and intensity of the performance... but you can at least get an idea --------rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patch24601@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby star Date: 03 Sep 1999 17:20:30 EDT Does anyone know, and this may be an ignorant question, where I might find the track moby did with the vocalist from mazzy star? Is it on an lp? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Francis Rasmussen Subject: (mobility) me myself and I Date: 03 Sep 1999 11:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Hi, my name is Kevin and I am 18 years old. I was on this list earlier but I unsubscribed because now I'm at BYU in Utah. I am a great moby fan. I just went to his concert in Austin, My Weakness gave me goosebumps! My moby collection includes ILTS, Animal Rights, Self titled, ambient, move, aussie revolver single, next is the e single, bodyrock, honey remixes, end of everything, U.S. everytime you touch me, honey/run on single, and two others i can't remember. well, that's it and I am happy to rejoin bye kev kfr3@email.byu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility)MP3s Date: 04 Sep 1999 01:02:47 -0400 > "...we (musicians)" > "...a career artist" > > what's that then? > are u really some famous muso that hides behind a > clark kent alias, or wot? I might be clark kent posing as a musician..... dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility)MP3s Date: 04 Sep 1999 01:03:47 -0400 Greening Ian wrote: > > An observation : I've been doing this music thing for about 10 years >now, and not a sniff of female interest. Humph. > No comment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) Shorwell!!! Date: 03 Sep 1999 23:22:33 PDT sup, were did ya get tha record, what's it like, would love to here... ...any news on tha new single, like when it's out or anything?!? ...hey a have a favour to ask, see i wuz listening to UNKLE in tha car with my friend, and i mentioned that there was a wicked breakbeat in tha next track, and he asked me what a breakbeat was, i couldn't understand that he didn't no what it is, all i could say was, you're listening to it now, and he still didn't get...so i ask you, how can one explain breakbeats in words, no making fun of my friend now, it was an innocent question... peace djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) Shopwell!!! Date: 03 Sep 1999 23:22:59 PDT sup, were did ya get tha record, what's it like, would love to here... ...any news on tha new single, like when it's out or anything?!? ...hey a have a favour to ask, see i wuz listening to UNKLE in tha car with my friend, and i mentioned that there was a wicked breakbeat in tha next track, and he asked me what a breakbeat was, i couldn't understand that he didn't no what it is, all i could say was, you're listening to it now, and he still didn't get...so i ask you, how can one explain breakbeats in words, no making fun of my friend now, it was an innocent question... peace djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Proxia@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) countdown to pittsburgh Date: 04 Sep 1999 02:25:42 EDT hi i'm kinda new in pittsburgh .... i'm there just for school ... at PTI ... anyway .. you know how much the tickets are ? are there any left ? ok thanks --- bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby star Date: 04 Sep 1999 08:51:59 EDT hope sandoval??? man, it's been a long time that i have not heard that name..never knew Moby did anything with her but thinking about it, they would be perfect together...do you know if mazzy star broke up or if they are still together....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) killing record industry Date: 04 Sep 1999 15:51:17 +0200 a contribution from our long-distance friend; i'm quoting: > > how is anything killing the cd industry? record labels have > zillions of dollars. the only thing hurting the industry is this: > > 1. there are way too many musicians making music, and it's way too > easy to record and distribute an album these days. anyone > can do it whether they have talent or not. > > 2. there is such a great divide between major and indie record labels. > the majors make too much, and subsidize and bastardize everything. > the indies make too little, and give fuel for the bastardizing. > > the reason that all new songs on cds are mixed together with the last > few seconds overlapping is because people are trying to be cool. > > dj crap is cool now. > > pop. > > just like how everyone started putting their cds in those clear > jewel cases...so you can see thru the spine of the case. > if you put out an album with a black jewel case, everyone who's > shallow will think it's OLD! > > > gota go, > jon z k. -- --------------- "even when i shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Soundtrack? Date: 04 Sep 1999 21:25:38 +0200 Hi everybody! Ok, so we all know our favourite musician Moby is going to play his guitar in his buddy Paul Yates' latest film called Porno... We also know that it probably will be out in the summer of 2000....But what we didn't know (and I heard this on the radio) is that Moby is also going to do the music for the soundtrack! Can anyone confirm this??? Bart (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wigan Ludgate Subject: Re: (mobility) WDMHFSB Date: 04 Sep 1999 10:06:55 -0700 (PDT) --- trance former wrote: > ...any news on tha new single, like when it's out or > anything?!? at the record store i work at the import listings say that parts #1 and #2 of WDMHFSB UK release will be available on 10.09.99. I have already preorded mine. Is there going to be a US release? Anyone know? [chris] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Shopwell & Hackers 3 Date: 04 Sep 1999 15:38:34 PDT The Shopwell record is exactly as described: industrial noise, all the way through. There was lots of clanging metal and 1950's outer space super cheesy sound effects. It was like Thurston Moore fell asleep on his effects table or something. It was good for a laugh, and will be useful to get people out of a party once it's over. There are lots of funny liner notes with Moby (as Jim Biscuit) rolling around in paint and goofing around with Paul Yates and James Harrell. There's other jokey stuff like a poem and some schizophrenic rambling, all in the key of Peanuts. Looks like they had a whole lot of fun recording this. I saw today that Why Can't It Stop is on the soundtrack for the Hackers 3. Is this a third soundtrack for one movie or is there actually a Hackers 3 movie? Just curious if it might be the Trainspotting soundtrack syndrome. Anyways, it's credited to Moby instead of Lopez this time around. There's also going to be a mix of BT's Godspeed on it, and a Leftfield mix of John Lydon's Psychopath. That song is also on the Sun 12", which also has Moby's mix of Grave Ride, coincidentally. The Leftfield mix is bizarro and fun with Lydon's unusual voice and some accordians. There's a promo 7" picture disc out now that's one-sided w/ Why Cant It Stop on side A. There's no acutal picture on it, it's just black & white with track listings for the forthcoming soundtrack. -S ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Francis Rasmussen Subject: (mobility) favorite artists Date: 04 Sep 1999 17:32:23 -0600 (MDT) oh yeah, I forgot my favorite artists, AIR(sexy boy remixes), Cassius, Daft Punk, Faithless, Roni Size, Sponge, U2, REM, older Prodigy stuff, Grooverider, Unkle, Paul Oakenfold, Orbital, Plastikman, Sven Vath, and many more ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 04 Sep 1999 22:32:24 PDT I'm just wondering about the Moby fans out there. How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? Any body a musician? What about ages? I recently turned vegetarian thanks in part to moby's liner notes in Everything is Wrong (those facts really got me). I'm a musician, 2 And by vegetarian, I don't mean "non red meat eater" I mean non meat eater. :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 04:18:05 EDT In a message dated 9/5/99 1:03:00 AM Central Daylight Time, corrugatedfunk@hotmail.com writes: << How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? Any body a musician? What about ages? >> I am not Vegan, nor Vegetarian, but I respect so very much the people who are. I am a musician, a Dj in fact (my Dj name is Dj Skittles). I'm 13 and am a complete Moby head. I've grown up to his music, and I also love Unkle, Plastikman, Orbital, BT, Tod Terri, Boom Boom Satelites, Intercourse (its a band), Porno Kings, and many more. Ok! I'm shure you've herd enuff! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) THE 1999 MOBY AWARDS!!! YAY!!!!!! Date: 05 Sep 1999 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Yes, its the 1999 Moby Awards, hosted by Bjork! (see, some guy on the AFX list did this a while ago, and it was hosted by Bjork, so this one is too, as is the S&O awards. all award shows should be hosted by Bjork! of course, it makes more sense for her to host an S&O awards, but ahem.......) the categories are: BEST ALBUM presented by Charles Aaron, who gave PLAY a 9ine in SPIN and will likely anoint it #1ne for the year BEST VOCAL SAMPLERY presented by the Alan Lomax estate BEST VIDEO presented by Phizzo Jobson (not me, the other 1ne) BEST MALE SINGER presented by Brian Ferry BEST FEMALE SINGER presented by Julee Cruise BEST HIP HOP (new school) presented by Jay Z BEST HIP HOP (old school) presented by Spoonie Gee MOST "WHITE" ARTIST presented by Kool Keith (in case you missed this, he did a review of various new trax in a magazine, and he said Keith sounded like something white guys would like or sumthin. I'm a little pissed at Moby and his problem's with "white music"-are you telling me the Pork Guys or Animal Rights is black?-but oh well) BEST COMEDY ALBUM presented by Alec Empire, featuring a spoken word performance by Carl Crack BEST OPENING ACT presented by KEES BEST TOUR BUS presented by Annette and Davo A VERY STUPID LONG RANT ABOUT WHY MOBY IS A FUCKING SELLOUT by that isiot who wrote to SPIN magazine and of course musical performances from Britney Spears, the Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, and some other groups, whatever. Takes place tonight at 3:30 AM in my closet, and since i mean if nobody arrives to get thier trophies, i will keep them all. also at the same time is the S&O awards hosted by Bjork. see you all not there! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m.marian@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 13:43:36 -0400 (EDT) I am a twenty year old vegan musician. I was a vegetarian for seven years before I became a vegan this past year. Congratulations on turning vegetarian jj! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility)MP3s Date: 05 Sep 1999 04:32:16 -0700 > As a human being, I don't get the mp3 thing, I'd much rather listen to > the cd than convert the music listening experience into a sound card > based point and click experience. But thats just me. I'm the kind of > guy who has 200W cd player in his car, and 500W amp, receiver, 200 cd > player, dual cassette 8 remote control home stereo. But that's just me, > like i said. I think my, ah, human-ness is why I like MP3s so much. not only do i get music for free, but i also can make playlists to suit my every mood. Which is perfect for someone who has either a pc in her bedroom or major living space. You know the concept of the mix tape right? The makeout tape, the workout tape? Well now you can have a hundred thousand mix tapes but you haven't spent any money and you haven't wasted any plastic. and you don't have to hop out of bed and flip the tape over either. ;) > I take the listening very seriously, I'm the kind of guy who tells you > to be quiet during the songs. I'm the same way. And if people don't be quiet when i ask them to, i start the song over. and over. and over. as necessary :) laura! -- For mad scientists who keep brains in jars, here's a tip: Why not add a slice of lemon to each jar, for freshness? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 04:55:52 -0700 helloooo! > How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? > Any body a musician? What about ages? i'm a 19 year old singing, mediocre-guitar-&-piano-playing, militant vegetarian (since i was in fourth grade, woo!) :) i'm going to become a vegan as soon as i move out of my parents' house. > I recently turned vegetarian thanks in part to moby's liner notes in > Everything is Wrong (those facts really got me). I'm a musician, 2 i love this list! laura! -- I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then, Yahoo! I'd have all my money back. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: (mobility) Delay / Power supply died in the list server Date: 05 Sep 1999 12:30:29 -0600 Hello guys & gals, Just to let you know the server that handles the Mobility Mailing List had some troubles today between the approximate hours of 5:30am to 11:00am. So if you sent emails during that time which haven't shown up you might want to resend. Also, I apologize about my lack of involvement in the mailing list as of late. I am in the middle of moving right now so I am even more unorganized than usual. :) I will try to get back soon with responses to some of the recent suggestions. Damian owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > This morning at approximately 5:30 AM, the power supply in the server > that handles mailing lists died. My apologies for the inconvenience. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 14:33:02 EDT i'm sorry this is probably a dumb question and youll all laugh at me for asking this, but whta is the difference between a veggiterian and a vegan? thanks. later ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) Baptism and Communion Date: 05 Sep 1999 13:16:47 -0500 Moby Played St Louis Saturday night to a packed crowd at the Karma Club in the Loft District downtown. It was the second show I've seen on this tour (1st was dallas two weeks ago), and his energy level and crowd interaction made the show more memorable and enjoyable than ever before. He made frequent humorously mean quips about the R&B club downstairs playing R Kelly and Ricky Martin he could hear through the floor between songs and two drunk lesbians who actually crossed the stage between songs to extend the drunker of the two a happy birthday greeting. He also explained to the crowd why he doesn't wear underwear while he is performing. (It chafes him). He is, without a doubt, the most generous performer I've ever seen. After the show, I asked him what he thinks about while he's performing "Thousand." His reply: "This sounds really odd, but tonight I was watching the smoke play in the lights and thinking about string theory." This was the set list. My Weakness Find My Baby Machete Why Can't it Stop? James Bond Theme Porcelain Go Next is the E Everloving Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? ("If Things Were Perfect" is on the set list at this point, but wasn't played) Ah Ah Bring Back My Happiness Bodyrock Honey Feeling So Real That's When I Reach For My Revolver Thousand Before the first encore, Moby and his band proved their generosity distributing many, many cups of ice water to the parched audience (it was wicked hot in the club). In Dallas, they poured a couple of gallons of water over the crowd as they were starting the encore. So, I guess I was baptized at one Moby show, and took communion at another. And if you doubt the significance of the religious imagery, you haven't been to a Moby show! Bradley S. Caviness, Bigwig Bigwig Enterprises bigwig@arkansas.net "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've often wondered why there was no musical commentary on writing." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author "The early bird gets the worm. But the second mouse gets the cheese." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) paul simpson Date: 05 Sep 1999 11:46:41 -0500 (CDT) sorry to bother everyone with this... PAUL SIMPSON: please email me. you didn't send me your email address! ok, thanks, [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 12:00:05 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 DJSkitles5@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/5/99 1:03:00 AM Central Daylight Time, > corrugatedfunk@hotmail.com writes: > > << How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? > Any body a musician? What about ages? >> > > I am not Vegan, nor Vegetarian, but I respect so very > much the people who are. I am a musician, a Dj in fact (my Dj name is Dj i'm also not a vegie, but i avoid meat as much as possible. mostly because it's all my parents seem to eat. i'm also a dj. been one for 5 years. i'm going to be releasing a mix cd sometime soon. stuff like bt, paul van dyk, blank and jones, binary finary, moby moby moby, and lots more progressive house and trance stuff both old and new. i'm a musician too! i have 3 cds available. well, the third is just now getting mass produced and the art work will take a bit more time, but everyone tells me that it's amazing. even people i don't know! i have a weekly radio show here in duluth at KUMD, a 100,000 watt station. EVERYONE ON THIS LIST NEEDS TO LISTEN TO IT!! i play moby all the time. you can listen at www.kumd.org. my show is tuesday night at 9pm to 11pm central. the really uplifting dance starts around 9:30 - 10. i've finally reached the point in my music and djing where i can honestly say that i'm pretty damned good. please understand that i NEVER talk big about myself. it's very hard for me to brag. oh, and i'm 23 as of yesterday! weeee! well, i could talk about myself for hours, so i should quit. listen to my show and call me at 1-800-566-KUMD!!!!!! i'd love to talk to ya'll! [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) vegan Date: 05 Sep 1999 15:28:52 EDT In a message dated 9/5/99 2:37:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << i'm sorry this is probably a dumb question and youll all laugh at me for asking this, but whta is the difference between a veggiterian and a vegan? thanks. later >> it's not a dumb question. a vegetarian excludes all animal flesh:red and white meat and fish. a vegan eschews all animal products from his/her lifestyle: no meat, dairy, eggs, leather, wool, honey, silk, products tested on animals, etc... im 21 and have been vegan for 8 motha f-cking yrs! (go me!) : ) congratulations to all who are vegetarian or vegan and those aspiring to be. thank you so very much for sparing the lives of animals. animal liberation, vegan power. ps- cant wait to see moby play for nyu wednesday! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 18:12:35 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BEF7CA.3A898CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there are different types of vegetarians, identified by the prefixes. lacto means dairy ovo means eggs pesco means fish pollo means poultry so someone who doesn't eat red meat is a pesco-pollo-lacto-ovo = vegetarian. someone who eats no animal products is a "total vegetarian", and a = "vegan" is a total vegetarian who does not use products tested on = animals and does not wear animal products. it is virtually impossible = to be a total vegan because my understanding is that tires are made with = gelatin, as is all photographic film (except fuji). but we all do our = best. there are apparently 600,000 vegans in the U.S. I am one of them :) = and it is really cool to see so many of you too! i became vegan around = the time i started listening to moby and his essays helped to encourage = me in my new diet. i think it is cool how he makes it known that he is = vegan but he is not "in your face" about it. and he doesn't just throw = his beliefs at you; he supports his opinions with hard facts. anyone = considering veganism should read "Diet For A New America" by John = Robbins (the son of the founder of Baskin-Robbins, who decided that = eating ice cream is bad). it's loaded with documentation and facts. = i'm 27 by the way and an aspiring ambient musician. i really dig moby's = ambient work. has anyone heard the little idiot cd that came with the = animal rights cd in the import version? it is his best ambient work i = think. it makes me cry :) are there any gay vegans out there? i decided i only want to date a = vegan but i can't find any :) daveeeeeeeeeeeee -----Original Message----- From: Pokey8984@aol.com To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 2:33 PM Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? =20 =20 i'm sorry this is probably a dumb question and youll all laugh at me = for=20 asking this, but whta is the difference between a veggiterian and a = vegan?=20 thanks. later ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BEF7CA.3A898CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
there are = different types=20 of vegetarians, identified by the prefixes.
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so someone = who doesn't=20 eat red meat is a pesco-pollo-lacto-ovo vegetarian.
 
someone who = eats no=20 animal products is a "total vegetarian", and a = "vegan" is a=20 total vegetarian who does not use products tested on animals and does = not wear=20 animal products.  it is virtually impossible to be a total vegan = because my=20 understanding is that tires are made with gelatin, as is all = photographic film=20 (except fuji).  but we all do our best.
 
there are = apparently=20 600,000 vegans in the U.S.  I am one of them :)  and it is = really cool=20 to see so many of you too!  i became vegan around the time i = started=20 listening to moby and his essays helped to encourage me in my new = diet.  i=20 think it is cool how he makes it known that he is vegan but he is not = "in=20 your face" about it.  and he doesn't just throw his beliefs at = you; he=20 supports his opinions with hard facts.  anyone considering veganism = should=20 read "Diet For A New America" by John Robbins (the son of the = founder=20 of Baskin-Robbins, who decided that eating ice cream is = bad).   it's=20 loaded with documentation and facts.  i'm 27 by the way and an = aspiring=20 ambient musician.  i really dig moby's ambient work.  has = anyone heard=20 the little idiot cd that came with the animal rights cd in the import=20 version?  it is his best ambient work i think.  it makes me = cry=20 :)
 
are there = any gay vegans=20 out there?  i decided i only want to date a vegan but i can't find = any=20 :)
 
daveeeeeeeeeeeee
 
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i'm sorry this = is=20 probably a dumb question and youll all laugh at me  for =
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------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BEF7CA.3A898CA0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) SOUTH SIDE SAMPLED FROM/VH1/Hackers 3 Date: 05 Sep 1999 09:48:52 -0700 (PDT) ok, i was listening to WPKN 89.5 at 7:30 last night, when Andy Bologovsky played a song that had exactly the same beat as SOUTH SIDE!!! like, after the guitar part in the beginning, and all the beat and everything comes in, all that was the beat of the song, just slowed a little (compared to MobY) as if that werent enuff, the bassline sounded a lot like that from "Mobility"! so i called the dj, and he said it was a band called Mom, the song also called "Mom", from about 1994. he later said it was from a cd called _Acid Jazz: The Vibe_ , turns out its on Instinct records (!) one of their _This Is Acid Jazz_ cds, also featuring trax by EM&I and OMU. who knows, maybe its Moby in disguise? also, listening to the electro circus, aand the first song Dave The Wave plays is "South Side"! i didnt make that up! crazy. i kept listening just in case he woukd say sumthin like "that was his new single" but he never did. later he also played "Why Can't It Stop" and said it was "brand new Moby, but it was originally released as Lopez, and now its coming out on the Hackers 3 soundtrack" so there ya go, a "Why Cant It Stop" rerelease. definitely buy it if you cant find it or never heard it, its a great song. i never realized how good it was before. i mean he played it live, i think that wass the 1ne he stagedived during, but i never realized how good and powerful that song really was, awesome. oh yes, watching VH1ne R&R Jeopardy (DONT ASK WHY) and during the category for "B-Sides Ourselves" the $600 ? (Double Jeopardy round) was somthing like "this 'whale' of a techno DJ was noted in the Guiness book for making a song 1000 BPM on the B-side of a 1992 single" and the guy got it! rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 thats weird how they mention bands like the Breeders or Moby or NIN on that show that they would NEVER play. i mean i saw the 100 greatest Women in R&R and Bjork, Ani, Indigo Girls, Kim Gordon, KIm Deal, Liz, Polly Jean, etc. were all up there. if any1ne besides college radio types had heard of Rebecca Gates (Spinanes, one of my favoritte indie bands) or LAETITIA, they would be up there too. thats crazy, MTV wont even touch these bands and VH1ne does specials on them! and also, they play the new Luscious Jackson which MTV doesnt even touch! and Cibo Matto starts in that video! if Vh1 wasnt so stuck in the 70s or whatever, theyd almost be worth watching. crazy. also, i was wondering about Moby's Yello remix, is it any good? k bye!!!! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravoxi@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) countdown to pittsburgh Date: 05 Sep 1999 19:27:55 EDT hey this is courtney in pittsburgh.. rock on PTI.. here in Duquesne. Tuesday!!!!! I'l be there with bells.. I am doing the guest list thing, so I don't know if tix are still out there.. call Metropol. -courtney ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby Live Date: 05 Sep 1999 21:00:04 EDT I just saw Moby live on Friday. He is absolutely awesome in concert. Had the pleasure of meeting him and shaking his hand, gettin his John Hancock etc... He was the best act of the night! Cree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) p-brgh psyched Date: 05 Sep 1999 21:20:08 -0400 i'm goin' to find my baby....woooo..... okay, pittsburghers - you can either get psyched or you can........get not-psyched!!! I'M PSYCHED!!!! two days and counting!!!!!!! love jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "- hyponoise -" Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:20:06 EDT >How many of you are vegan? nope >vegetarian? yep. and i make a mean bean burritio. mmmmm >Any body a musician? yep. electroacoustic/ambient goodness. www.mp3.com/wilt "like holding my mind between my fingers"-my friend chris "a cross between Ae and plastikman"-my other friend chris >What about ages? 18 and too old. -jason n . p . sister machine gun . burn . www.smg.org www.mp3.com/wilt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dorkk4200@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:25:16 EDT I like to play my guitar, but then I also like to get on the ol' sampler and mix some beats so now, I just need to play the guitar and sample some beats together and I might find somethin in there that could put my mind in between my fingers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dorkk4200@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Live Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:25:58 EDT Where did you see him? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dorkk4200@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) p-brgh psyched Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:37:14 EDT wish I could come, hope you have a ball and find your baby before that sun goes down casey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dorkk4200@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) favorite artists Date: 05 Sep 1999 23:13:51 EDT you the mad man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Barks Subject: (mobility) moby live! Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:20:50 +0000 Hey, I'm new to the list...so hi :-) I saw Moby last night in St. Louis (and have had his CDs on repeat all day, woo) -- it was an AMAZING show. First time I'd seen him. Was anyone else there? Any thoughts? Anyway, if you haven't seen him live you simply must. He's an incredible performer. Viva Moby! -- Sarah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Barks Subject: Re: (mobility) Soundtrack? Date: 05 Sep 1999 22:25:22 +0000 I heard about this project a LONG time ago (in Spin, maybe?) and I've been looking for the movie/soundtrack since then -- I didn't realize it hadn't been made yet, and thought maybe it was just a rumor to begin with. I vaguely recall something about a scene in the movie with Moby playing acoustic guitar with two vibrators strapped to his head...but anyway....heheh... Should be an amazing soundtrack! -- Sarah Bart van Eijck wrote: > > Ok, so we all know our favourite musician Moby is going to play his > guitar in his buddy Paul Yates' latest film called Porno... We also know > that it probably will be out in the summer of 2000....But what we didn't > know (and I heard this on the radio) is that Moby is also going to do > the music for the soundtrack! > > Can anyone confirm this??? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Live Date: 06 Sep 1999 00:03:17 EDT <> I saw him in Kansas City, it was the best! He is really a beautiful person :) Cree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: + a question Date: 06 Sep 1999 03:12:08 EDT I have been a 'basic' vegetarian for a year now (no meat, but some dairy). My goal is to be vegan. I totally agree that the facts and essay #1 on "everything is wrong" is one of the first and most hard-core non-sugarcoated things I've ever read on the matter and found it very motivating. (Thanks Daveeee for the book recomendation, I've been wanting to read more about this lately). I am 22, sing (I do a lot of this in the car, too) play guitar and piano. And I had a question: Moby has so many songs about dying. I wondered if anyone had any info straight from him (like quotes) on the matter. Theories are so easy to make up...I do remember him saying that when he was younger he was a depressed white man (something like that)... ok I'll shut up now. ps: happy birthday [xaq]!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dredmond@email.boisestate.edu (Daniel Redmond) Subject: (mobility) Scooter??? Date: 06 Sep 1999 03:01:36 -0400 Greetings all from Idaho (y'know, that white-bred hick state up north of utah and south of Canada), On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen. Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter. Any info on him/them? Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more. later daniel "We've been spending most our life living in an Amish Paradise" - Weird Al ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MCJCREW@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: + a question Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:05:53 EDT Hi all! I've been a vegetarian for about 6 years now. I 'm working on becoming a vegan. Marisa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:24:55 EDT << On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen. Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter. Any info on him/them? Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more. >> I believe they are also on the Mortal Kombat Annihilation Soundtrack. That's all I have on them though :) Cree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Date: 06 Sep 1999 18:56:44 +0200 Daniel Redmond wrote: >On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen. >Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter. Any info on >him/them? Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more. For info about Scooter look here! http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists/By_Genre/Electronica/Scoote r/ (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Date: 06 Sep 1999 18:57:09 +0200 Daniel Redmond wrote: >On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen. >Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter. Any info on >him/them? Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more. For info about Scooter look here! http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Music/Artists/By_Genre/Electronica/Scoote r/ (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Heidi Gronman Subject: (mobility) veg*an V2 #112 Date: 05 Sep 1999 23:01:48 +0300 (EET DST) > i'm sorry this is probably a dumb question and youll all laugh at me for > asking this, but whta is the difference between a veggiterian and a vegan? > thanks. later not dumb question at all! now you can invite all your veg*an friends over dinner without hesitation. labels are usefull when one has to quickly have something done right, f.e. friend wants to know what you'd like to eat. ovo-lacto-vegetarian means that you don't eat meat of animals. vegetarian means that you don't eat any products containing animalstuff. vegan means that you don't eat, wear nor use any product where somewhere along products life has been use of animals in any way. usually vegans don't use any kind of drugs, illegal or legal, are aware of damages done to enviroment and so on. X-s (straightx, straightedge) are vegans, christians and refuse to have sex before marriage. at least that's the way how they are in finland. it is somewhat impossible to be a fundamentalvegan, so most of vegans don't demand absolute certanty. things around are too complex for anyone to know everything. best what we can do is to not use animals according our knowledge of the situation, cos every refusing of use lacks from the total mass of all uses of animals. to me being a vegan means ability to hear silent demand. h, monkey in a canoe p.s. vegans don't eat honey, but it's quite all right to listen it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) re: p-brgh psyched Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:07:52 -0400 hi, casey!!!! so sorry you can't make it!! why not?? i'm going to find my baby!!..... jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) re:Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 06 Sep 1999 15:16:15 -0400 hey - mobyheads - 'kay - i'm practically a vegetarian, but i have the occasional bit of flesh because i'm truthfully too poor to supplement/make the transfer to V properly. (scorn me now - go ahead....) i am a classic musician and pop-wannabe-musician. i sing (mostly early music - handel, purcell - anything light - i am a light leggiero tenor.) i have a degree in music ed - i conduct (chorally) and play a great deal of piano. i would love to start to record some of my own pop stuff, but i lack the equipment and am probably moving in the next month or so. i would also love to start spinning vinyls. i am 23. jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Chicken Date: 06 Sep 1999 16:39:29 EDT Hi, my name's Gabriele. And I used to eat chicken. ("Hi, Gabriele")...j/k Well apart from that one fact that Moby shared (the one about "80% of U.S.D.A. chicken inspectors no longer eating chicken"), I just saw this amazing docu-film called "Baraka" that has made it impossible for me to eat chicken. No words, just incredible images from all over the world. But there's a part in the 2nd half where they show how chickens are processed from eggs to when they're young chicks. It is totally shocking. Once you watch that, it's hard to get it out of your conscience... Okay, now to make it more Moby-related: Moby is wonderful :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Gallegos Subject: (mobility) Hello Moby FANS! Date: 06 Sep 1999 17:52:02 -0400 Hello there Moby Fan! There is a new voice online! MobyAMP soon to be your one stop source for moby related news! check out http://www.divinecreation.net/MobyAmp to see what we have to offer! Please enlist in our press helpers! It's free! You can vist the MobyAmp beta website @ http://www.divinecreation.net/MobyAmp/beta Username: moby Password: beta This site is just a template links are going to be broken or not working at all, Our site will be offcialy posted in about 2 weeks. Please link your site to ours and we will do the same for you! Together we can make it happen! (MobyAMP a site by fans for fans) Thank you, Danny Gallegos Email: moby@divinecreation.net AIM: XPhantasma UIN: 7957051 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby on Loveline Date: 06 Sep 1999 21:09:07 EDT Did anyone else happen to catch Moby on Loveline last night? It was the radio show, not the TV one. I completely forgot about telling you guys about that. It was on KROQ for those in Cali and KUBZ in Western WA. I'm such a nerd sometimes. I was going to call in and talk to him, but it was already midnight and they were replaying the first hour. (It's a two hour show, 10pm to midnight, but of course, The Buzz likes to play a three hour segment...stupid Seattle stations are messed up!!!) I'm gonna write up to KROQ to see if they'll give me a copy of it and I know that on Friday, they should play an hour of him during Loveline. (They always have repeats on Fridays.) He might be on the TV show in about three weeks or so (the time slots are weird...once when they had Blink 182 on the radio show, they didn't come up on the TV one, even though it was done the next day, until three months later) but I'll try to keep you guys up on that one. Anyway...yeah...ummmmm...vote on EmptyVee!! Oh, and call The Box a lot (if you get the station) and bug them to get Bodyrock on their playlist...they have everything else but that. Later, Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SiD Subject: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question Date: 06 Sep 1999 20:52:48 -0500 Hey there folks I just joined the list for some quick information so I hope someone's online now. I saw Moby on Friday and I'm supposed to have a review filed with a paper tonight but I need some information. First concerning the setlist that I swiped it off a conga drum, is it a pretty safe bet that it's correct and they didn't change things up during the set? I mean I can't imagine the setlist changing much with all those sequences being set and all. Second what are the songs? Below is what is written on the paper and my guesses are afterwards in parenthesis... Mach 2 (?) Stop (?) Bond (James Bond Theme from "I Like to Score") Porc'ln. (Porcelain from "Play") Go (Go from "I Like to Score" and many others) Next (Next is the E from that self-titled ep) Ah-Ah (Ah-Ah from "I Like to Score" and many others) Bring (Bring Back My Happiness from "Everything is Wrong") Body (Bodyrock from "Play") Honey (Honey from "Play") Feel (Feeling So Real from "Everything is Wrong") So if you have any clues like "No way he would have done Next is the E in 1999!" or "Mach 2 is some remove of Machette from the new album" that'd be grand. Also I'd like to know who is in the band now a days. It is the same folks that were on Conon O'Brian if that helps. First person to tell me the line up can have the setlist if they want it. Finally I took like 60 pictures and I'll post them on a site for you folks in the next few days to thank ya for the help with this. Thanks in advance, SiD -- SiD sid@vicious.com http://www.urinine.com/~sid/ "Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not scratch. Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life is that?" -Pavement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question Date: 06 Sep 1999 22:04:38 EDT i just thought i'd tell you, im online right now but i along with you hav eno clue. im sorry, man. later. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kyle L Yeates Subject: (mobility) Vegan/musician? Date: 06 Sep 1999 20:32:48 -0600 In response to a question about being vegan/musicians/ect. i have been vegan for a while now. i guess it is how you define vegan. i am completely vegan in how i eat, to the point where i won't even eat anything that has mono-di glycerides in it unless i know their source, because those are often animal based. (a fun fact that a lot of my vegan/vegetarian friends didn't know.)still, i have a leather hat i wear that was given to me, but me being given an already dead cow product created no additional harm. i also wear silk shirts because i have this whole thing with insects not being real. i was also raised a vegetarian by my parents, so that is pretty neat. i do stuff musically, as well. i do industrial stuff mainly, which i find most enjoyable. i have a ton of vintage analog gear, which rocks: a classic moog, a mini moog, a roland tape ribbon space echo, and an ARP-AX, which is really clunky, among others. the moogs are my babies though. two weeks ago my guitarist tried and nearly succeeded to commit suicide, so any music plans are on hold right now. what was the other question? oh yeah. i'm 15 years old. i could go on, but not like this wasn't boring enough. just my two copper plated disks, though. peace and love. kyle ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raven" Subject: (mobility) hola! Date: 06 Sep 1999 23:53:09 -0400 I'm wasn't sure what the toleration here was about introducing yourself, but since the welcome message prompted me to, here goes.....my name is Chris Doherty. My Moby collection is pretty piddly....I just bought the Bodyrock CD on a whim, and rather liked it! I also have a few odds and ends of his, like his remix for the Pumpkins (or at least, I *did* have it) and his song "Verb" off the Schoolhouse Rocks tribute. I've also heard some of his singles, but now I'm looking to get more into his stuff. So.....Any recommendations? I've heard some from friends of mine, but I'd like more. So far I've already ordered Play, and I plan to get EiW....what about Voodoo Child? I've heard the new one is very relaxing, but what exactly is it like? Is it just ambient, or ambient house (or whatever you call ambient music over dance beats)? I love the Bodyrock single, but I think my favorite track is the b-side Sunday. What songs/albums of his are like that? I'm really a sucker for that kind of thing...so that's what I'm most interested in. As for other artists......not a whole lot of techno: BT, this kinda obscure (but incredible!) ambient house project called Cloud2Ground, and bits and pieces of the Prodigy and other more mainstream techno groups. Oh, I've just developed a love for Meat Beat Manifesto!! As for other stuff....my favorite groups are The Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage, this semi-indie band called Stavesacre (sort of like Tool but more emotional), the Cure, etc etc etc. Basically anything good that falls under the general headings of goth, industrial, rock......then, when my mood-thrashings (I don't just swing) call for it, I have an unhealthy fascination with swing, punk, ska, synthpop....hyper music! Another reason I love the Bodyrock single.... Ta ta, Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) moby on the world cafe 9-8-99 Date: 06 Sep 1999 23:29:46 -0500 (CDT) yo fellow public radio listeners (i hope!), moby is going to be doing an interview on the radio show "the world cafe." if you don't know what this is, i don't have time to explain. just listen to it! hopefully you have a cool public radio station near you, but if not, you can listen to our station KUMD on wednesday from 2pm to 5pm central at www.kumd.org. he'll be on the 2pm hour and the 4pm hour. they always do good interviews, and they've been charting PLAY for a while. the world cafe is broadcast all over the u.s. so you SHOULD be able to find it somewhere. [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 06 Sep 1999 23:56:07 -0500 >How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? I've been an omnivore for 26 years now. >Any body a musician? I used to be. I DJ on the university's station, tho. >What about ages? 26. -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!! Date: 05 Sep 1999 23:16:04 -0500 >...hey a have a favour to ask, see i wuz listening to UNKLE in tha car with >my friend, and i mentioned that there was a wicked breakbeat in tha next >track, and he asked me what a breakbeat was, i couldn't understand that he >didn't no what it is, all i could say was, you're listening to it now, and >he still didn't get...so i ask you, how can one explain breakbeats in words, >no making fun of my friend now, it was an innocent question... Well, there are "four-on-the-floor" beats, which are fairly easy to understand. Break beats are syncopated -- they deviate and jump around the four beats but still keep in time. Confused? :) -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dorkk4200@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!! Date: 07 Sep 1999 01:43:10 EDT the slave thinx he is released from bondage, only to find a stronger set of chains.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question Date: 06 Sep 1999 23:05:18 EDT I saw Moby Friday, and I don't remember them playing Honey. Also, they played a few more songs then that I think.... email me if you want to talk more on Friday's show. :) Cree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: Re: (mobility) URGENT: Live Moby Question Date: 07 Sep 1999 08:35:59 PDT It's probably too late, but... >Mach 2 (?) >Stop (?) That's "Machete" & "Why Can't It Stop?". The rest are accurate. >Bond (James Bond Theme from "I Like to Score") >Porc'ln. (Porcelain from "Play") >Go (Go from "I Like to Score" and many others) >Next (Next is the E from that self-titled ep) >Ah-Ah (Ah-Ah from "I Like to Score" and many others) >Bring (Bring Back My Happiness from "Everything is Wrong") >Body (Bodyrock from "Play") >Honey (Honey from "Play") >Feel (Feeling So Real from "Everything is Wrong") > >So if you have any clues like "No way he would have done Next is the E >in 1999!" or "Mach 2 is some remove of Machette from the new album" >that'd be grand. > >Also I'd like to know who is in the band now a days. It is the same >folks that were on Conon O'Brian if that helps. First person to tell >me the line up can have the setlist if they want it. > >Finally I took like 60 pictures and I'll post them on a site for you >folks in the next few days to thank ya for the help with this. > >Thanks in advance, > >SiD > >-- >SiD sid@vicious.com http://www.urinine.com/~sid/ > >"Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not >scratch. Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life >is that?" -Pavement > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Zen diet and vegetarianism] Date: 07 Sep 1999 05:50:03 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------805EE8A2E43A4D80C09B566D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------805EE8A2E43A4D80C09B566D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <37D429D6.37659B76@dds.nl> Organization: the Black Page X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit okay folks, a long quote, from: The Dictionary of Misinformation, Tom Burnam UK, 1978 Futura Publ. ltd. "Zen diet and vegetarianism. Many believers think that the Zen macrobiotic diet, which in its extreme form involves nothing but brown rice, is a safe way to adhere to the principles of vegetarianism. This is a dangerous myth, according to Dr. jean mayer, prof. of nutrition at Harvard. Dr. mayer makes it plain that he is not scoring vegertarianism in general - as long as it allows for sufficient variety to provide the proteins, vitamins and minerals we need. But the vegetarian who not only refuses to eat meat, but even draws the line at all animal by-products (milk and eggs, f.e.) as well as fish, and who refuses to supplement his or her diet by vitamin pills, because they are 'chemicals', is taking a very considerable risk, particularly with reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words: 'Many individuals have insisted to me -sometimes with considerable anger- that they and their children have been on a total-vegetable diet for years, with no ill effects. But I repeat, the symptoms of B-12 deficiency take many years to show up. And once they do, they can't be reversed. Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger of calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe problem for nursing mothers; without ample calcium in their diet, they have to steal calcium from their own bones to make breast milk. And as in the case with B-12 deficiency, the resulting damage occurs slowly and may be entirely unsuspected until the latter years, when the victiim becomes highly susceptible to brittle bones and disabling fractures. Added to the burden of inadequate calcium may be the shortage of vitamine D, which is necesary if the body is to utilize what calcium it does get. All small children (except those who live in year-round sunny climates) need vitamin D supplements during the winter, and this is even more true of children on low calcium diets. They will not get sufficient Vitamin D if their vegetarianism prohibits them from having D-fortified milk, fish, liver oils (bweeeh!!! Kees) or vitamin supplements." [endquote] Please, all inform yo-self! (for pokey, for laura, for sara, for all of you) kees'99 -- --------------- "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- --------------805EE8A2E43A4D80C09B566D-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) THE 1999 MOBY AWARDS!!! YAY!!!!!!] Date: 06 Sep 1999 22:51:17 +0200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------43A002B4EF82FB2F5CA3B3F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- --------------- "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- --------------43A002B4EF82FB2F5CA3B3F8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <37D39219.630E050F@dds.nl> Organization: the Black Page X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990905170318.21828.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phizzo Jobson wrote: > > BEST OPENING ACT > presented by KEES i feel sold out, without even having signed a contract p.s. the opening act will be Jimi Hendrix performing the last 23 seconds of Come On Baby keesz -- Sifl to Chester: "you better wear these safety-glasses with thermo-sox" --------------43A002B4EF82FB2F5CA3B3F8-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) Zen diet and vegetarianism Date: 06 Sep 1999 22:53:42 +0200 okay folks, a long quote, from: The Dictionary of Misinformation, Tom Burnam UK, 1978 Futura Publ. ltd. "Zen diet and vegetarianism. Many believers think that the Zen macrobiotic diet, which in its extreme form involves nothing but brown rice, is a safe way to adhere to the principles of vegetarianism. This is a dangerous myth, according to Dr. jean mayer, prof. of nutrition at Harvard. Dr. mayer makes it plain that he is not scoring vegertarianism in general - as long as it allows for sufficient variety to provide the proteins, vitamins and minerals we need. But the vegetarian who not only refuses to eat meat, but even draws the line at all animal by-products (milk and eggs, f.e.) as well as fish, and who refuses to supplement his or her diet by vitamin pills, because they are 'chemicals', is taking a very considerable risk, particularly with reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words: 'Many individuals have insisted to me -sometimes with considerable anger- that they and their children have been on a total-vegetable diet for years, with no ill effects. But I repeat, the symptoms of B-12 deficiency take many years to show up. And once they do, they can't be reversed. Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger of calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe problem for nursing mothers; without ample calcium in their diet, they have to steal calcium from their own bones to make breast milk. And as in the case with B-12 deficiency, the resulting damage occurs slowly and may be entirely unsuspected until the latter years, when the victiim becomes highly susceptible to brittle bones and disabling fractures. Added to the burden of inadequate calcium may be the shortage of vitamine D, which is necesary if the body is to utilize what calcium it does get. All small children (except those who live in year-round sunny climates) need vitamin D supplements during the winter, and this is even more true of children on low calcium diets. They will not get sufficient Vitamin D if their vegetarianism prohibits them from having D-fortified milk, fish, liver oils (bweeeh!!! Kees) or vitamin supplements." [endquote] Please, all inform yo-self! (for pokey, for laura, for sara, for all of you) kees'99 -- --------------- "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? Date: 07 Sep 1999 00:10:48 -0400 Well I have posted nothing at all in quite a long time, and being under a new name now, I guess this is my first post (It would be nice if someone could tell me how to unsubsscribe my old name... Damian....). Anyway, just wanted to say this: Kyle L Yeates wrote: i also wear silk shirts because i have this > whole thing with insects not being real. I hear you! Not on the vegan part but on the insect part. Anyway, Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravoxi@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) rah! rah! only hours to go until the pgh show! Date: 07 Sep 1999 12:01:35 EDT yeee!! are you ready? -courtney ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lauring Subject: (mobility) Moby in Copenhagen Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:00:02 +0200 Moby is playing in Copenhagen the 29th of this month. I=B4m in the other end of the country and don=B4t have the time/money to go.... bummer! This would be my 4th Moby show, but I=B4m quite certain I could get a free ticket and an interview - my last Moby interview wasn=B4t particulary good, so I=B4d love to do it again. well, thats gonna be the next time.=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lauring Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 07 Sep 1999 17:59:56 +0200 At 22:32 04-09-99 -0700, you wrote: >I'm just wondering about the Moby fans out there. > >How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? >Any body a musician? What about ages? > > I=B4m neither vegetarian or vegan - I only eat vegetables that has been grow= n without the use of poison or other artificial means. This is the BIG thing in Denmark now, meaning the prices are getting lower, so the ecological grown stuff is almost as cheap as the normal stuff. How about other countries? How about you vegans/vegetarians - does it matter how vegetables are grown? (just curious) I only eat/use animal products from anmimals which has been treaten properly (of course this is a matter of degrees and opinions on what "properly" is varies). I=B4m 29, student of journalism (interviewed Moby last year) and a sometimes radio DJ (which is good as I have absolutely no musical abilities myself)=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mobility List Admin Subject: "tell me how" --was-- Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? Date: 07 Sep 1999 10:11:06 -0600 AJ Brustein wrote: > > Well I have posted nothing at all in quite a long time, and being under > a new name now, I guess this is my first post (It would be nice if > someone could tell me how to unsubsscribe my old name... Damian....). That information is included in the message that you received when you subscribed (Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:57:18 -0600) your new address. It's important, if possible, that ALL list members READ and HOLD ONTO this "welcoming/introduction" email for future reference. In any case refer to this web page: http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html Damian. BTW: it's good to hear from you. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) James Bond 3" CD Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:34:42 +0200 Hello everybody, I just got my 3" promo CD of James Bond Theme by Moby. It has only got 1 track. I got it from eBay and I've never heard anyone mention it... It has a huge bottle of Smirnoff Vodka on the front so I suppose it came for free with a bottle of vodka(??) Does anyone know anything more about this disc? Here's some discography info: JAMES BOND THEME (MOBY'S RE-VERSION) (5:50) [1997] CD, Mute/The Music House, TMH002 1 5:50 James Bond Theme (Moby's re-version) (Moby's Extended Dance Mix) I LOVE 3" CDs! Why aren't they being made anymore? |:o( I finally persuaded myself to buy "Lifeforms" by FSOL from 1994 One of the most 'legendary' albums in electronic music! WOW! I also can't wait for the new Leftfield album, I heard people say it is pretty good! Let's hope so! the little (<>,,<>) alien np: FSOL - Among Myselves ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) Moby's Birthday Date: 07 Sep 1999 12:37:56 -0400 Anyone know when it is? I know he was born in September 1965 (according to the "Animal Rights" bio), but I don't know which day. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers! Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Heidi Gronman Subject: (mobility) diets b12 V2 #114 Date: 07 Sep 1999 19:54:00 +0300 (EET DST) > Subject: Zen diet and vegetarianism > The Dictionary of Misinformation, > reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words: > Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger of > calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe veg*ans get b-12 and calcium from f.e. alfa-alfa and seaweed. vegans can take care of themselves...:) h ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? Date: 07 Sep 1999 01:03:47 -0700 Okay I have a question: Do any of the vegans here avoid eating sugar? I have a book that says that sugar is usually filtered using charred cattle bones, but it doesn't give any suggestions as far as divining which kinds of sugar are filtered that way. Anybody have any tips, other than "just quit eating sugar"? I'd like to do that, but we sell baked goods where I work. And they call out to me. Anyway :) Baby steps, my friends, baby steps, Laura! -- I think a good novel would be where a bunch of men on a ship are looking for a whale. They look and look, but you know what? They never find him. And you know why they never find him? It doesn't say. The book leaves it up to you, the reader, to decide. Then, at the very end, there's a page that you can lick and it tastes like Kool-Aid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) Questions for Moby Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:12:18 -0400 I'm in the process of writing questions for my interview with Moby (which happens later this week)...anyone have anything that they would like to ask him? I'll do my best and when I'm done writing my piece, all of you will be the first to read it. Hugs, Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:18:57 EDT So I'm little late in replying to this, but what the hell... The official Scooter site is at "www.waldec.tt.ee/scooter/". It's better than the other site...a little out-dated, but it has mp3's on it, and also half of the clip for Age of Love. And as for Hacker movies...and this has already been answered, I'm sure...there's been only one done, but the soundtracks keep coming and they're all bad ass. Probably one of the best comp album people thingies that keep doing it. Someone there has a good taste in music!! Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:24:59 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BEF934.62059060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable organic produce is not as popular in the u.s. i suppose because the = prices are almost double that of conventional produce. that's good to = see a non-vegan who is still concerned about the use of pesticides and = chemicals in his fruits and vegetables. does moby concern himself with = organics? i wonder how healthy of a vegan he is. his recipes in urb = magazine looked pretty tasty and healthy. =20 i also don't have as much of a problem with eating meat as i do the way = animals are treated. so good for you for buying humanely-raised meat = products! i am a radio dj here in washington dc at mix107.3. it's not the kind of = music anyone on here would like (including myself) but they did let me = play moby once! dave the vegan -----Original Message----- From: Hans Lauring To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 12:05 PM Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? =20 =20 At 22:32 04-09-99 -0700, you wrote: >I'm just wondering about the Moby fans out there. > >How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? >Any body a musician? What about ages? > > =20 I=B4m neither vegetarian or vegan - I only eat vegetables that has = been grown without the use of poison or other artificial means. This is the BIG = thing in Denmark now, meaning the prices are getting lower, so the = ecological grown stuff is almost as cheap as the normal stuff. How about other countries? How about you vegans/vegetarians - does it matter how = vegetables are grown? (just curious) I only eat/use animal products from anmimals which has been treaten properly (of course this is a matter of degrees and opinions on what "properly" is varies). I=B4m 29, student of journalism (interviewed Moby last year) and a = sometimes radio DJ (which is good as I have absolutely no musical abilities = myself)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BEF934.62059060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
organic = produce is not as=20 popular in the u.s. i suppose because the prices are almost double that = of=20 conventional produce.  that's good to see a non-vegan who is still=20 concerned about the use of pesticides and chemicals in his fruits and=20 vegetables.  does moby concern himself with organics?  i = wonder how=20 healthy of a vegan he is.  his recipes in urb magazine looked = pretty tasty=20 and healthy. 
 
i also = don't have as much=20 of a problem with eating meat as i do the way animals are treated.  = so good=20 for you for buying humanely-raised meat products!
 
i am a = radio dj here in=20 washington dc at mix107.3.  it's not the kind of music anyone on = here would=20 like (including myself)  but they did let me play moby = once!
 
dave the=20 vegan
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Hans Lauring <hanzii@mobilixnet.dk>
T= o:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Tuesday, September 07, 1999 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: = (mobility)=20 Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians?

At 22:32 = 04-09-99=20 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm just wondering about the Moby fans out=20 there.
>
>How many of you are vegan? = vegetarian?
>Any body=20 a musician? What about ages?
>
>

I´m = neither=20 vegetarian or vegan - I only eat vegetables that has been = grown
without=20 the use of poison or other artificial means. This is the BIG = thing
in=20 Denmark now, meaning the prices are getting lower, so the=20 ecological
grown stuff is almost as cheap as the normal stuff. = How about=20 other
countries? How about you vegans/vegetarians - does it = matter how=20 vegetables
are grown? (just curious)
I only eat/use animal = products=20 from anmimals which has been treaten
properly (of course this is = a matter=20 of degrees and opinions on what
"properly" is=20 varies).
I´m 29, student of journalism (interviewed Moby = last year)=20 and a sometimes
radio DJ (which is good as I have absolutely no = musical=20 abilities myself)
------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BEF934.62059060-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patch24601@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby star Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:29:47 EDT As far as I know mazzy star is still a group. I heard a track on a local college station here in richmond on a moby set and it featured hope. It was amazing, i want to find out more about it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) WDMHFSB Date: 07 Sep 1999 09:06:00 -0400 I was informed this will be a UK-only release. -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 10:06 AM --- trance former wrote: > ...any news on tha new single, like when it's out or > anything?!? at the record store i work at the import listings say that parts #1 and #2 of WDMHFSB UK release will be available on 10.09.99. I have already preorded mine. Is there going to be a US release? Anyone know? [chris] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:30:06 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BEF935.1929B820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i don't want to get all animal rightsy on here, but i do think insects = are wonderful creatures just like everything else on earth. although = they are smaller and more plentiful, they are still beautiful. moby = agrees by the way, as i read a story about him and how when he finds a = cockroach or other small beings in his nyc apartment, he goes to the = trouble to capture it and then take it outside. i am a vegan who does = not eat honey because of the way the bees are treated, though it is the = one healthy animal product. yay moby! dave -----Original Message----- From: AJ Brustein To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 11:50 AM Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? =20 =20 =20 Well I have posted nothing at all in quite a long time, and being = under a new name now, I guess this is my first post (It would be nice if someone could tell me how to unsubsscribe my old name... = Damian....). Anyway, just wanted to say this: =20 Kyle L Yeates wrote: i also wear silk shirts because i have this > whole thing with insects not being real.=20 =20 I hear you! Not on the vegan part but on the insect part. Anyway, = Later. AJ ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BEF935.1929B820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i don't = want to get all=20 animal rightsy on here, but i do think insects are wonderful creatures = just like=20 everything else on earth.  although they are smaller and more = plentiful,=20 they are still beautiful.  moby agrees by the way, as i read a = story about=20 him and how when he finds a cockroach or other small beings in his nyc=20 apartment, he goes to the trouble to capture it and then take it = outside. =20 i am a vegan who does not eat honey because of the way the bees are = treated,=20 though it is the one healthy animal product.
 
yay = moby!
 
dave
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 AJ Brustein <brustein@bc.edu>
To: = mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Tuesday, September 07, 1999 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: = (mobility)=20 Vegan/musician?


Well I have posted nothing = at all in=20 quite a long time, and being under
a new name now, I guess this = is my=20 first post (It would be nice if
someone could tell me how to = unsubsscribe=20 my old name... Damian....).
Anyway, just wanted to say = this:

Kyle=20 L Yeates wrote:
i also wear silk shirts because i have = this
> whole=20 thing with insects not being real.

I hear you! Not on the = vegan part=20 but on the insect part. Anyway, = Later.
AJ
------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BEF935.1929B820-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) pittsburgh Date: 07 Sep 1999 11:44:45 -0400 okay - in about six hours, i'm going to meet moby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) moby star Date: 07 Sep 1999 08:47:00 -0400 Could you possibly be referring to the track she did with the Chemical Brothers on their new album?? -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 8:51 AM hope sandoval??? man, it's been a long time that i have not heard that name..never knew Moby did anything with her but thinking about it, they would be perfect together...do you know if mazzy star broke up or if they are still together....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:38:33 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BEF936.478FA8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i am a vegan and i have heard that some sugar companies refine sugar = with animal products, so you are correct. you just don't know which = ones are and which ones are not. you can totally eat unrefined sugar = (like sucanat, sugar in the raw, all that stuff). keep in mind that = table salt is diluted with dextrose, which is refined sugar. it really = sucks for eating out. a true vegan must prepare all of his own food, = unless he or she can find a vegan restaurant. luckily for me the one = vegan restaurant in dc that uses only sea salt is a mile from my house = in beautiful vienna virginia. i doubt the baked goods at work are vegan other than the sugar, are = they? no eggs or anything? there are so many things you have to watch out for as far as being a = vegan. i have a rippin recipe for vegan chocolate chip cookies made = with maple syrup if anyone wants it! let's relate this to moby... i wonder how hardcore of a vegan moby is? = does he avoid sugar and salt? dave -----Original Message----- From: Laura To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 1:10 PM Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? =20 =20 Okay I have a question: Do any of the vegans here avoid eating = sugar? I have a book that says that sugar is usually filtered using charred = cattle bones, but it doesn't give any suggestions as far as divining which = kinds of sugar are filtered that way. Anybody have any tips, other than = "just quit eating sugar"? I'd like to do that, but we sell baked goods where I = work. And they call out to me. Anyway :) =20 Baby steps, my friends, baby steps, Laura! =20 -- I think a good novel would be where a bunch of men on a ship are = looking for a whale. They look and look, but you know what? They never find = him. And you know why they never find him? It doesn't say. The book leaves = it up to you, the reader, to decide. Then, at the very end, there's a page = that you can lick and it tastes like Kool-Aid. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BEF936.478FA8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i am a = vegan and i have=20 heard that some sugar companies refine sugar with animal products, so = you are=20 correct.  you just don't know which ones are and which ones are = not. =20 you can totally eat unrefined sugar (like sucanat, sugar in the raw, all = that=20 stuff).  keep in mind that table salt is diluted with dextrose, = which is=20 refined sugar.  it really sucks for eating out.  a true vegan = must=20 prepare all of his own food, unless he or she can find a vegan = restaurant. =20 luckily for me the one vegan restaurant in dc that uses only sea salt is = a mile=20 from my house in beautiful vienna virginia.
 
i doubt the = baked goods=20 at work are vegan other than the sugar, are they?  no eggs or=20 anything?
 
there are = so many things=20 you have to watch out for as far as being a vegan.  i have a rippin = recipe=20 for vegan chocolate chip cookies made with maple syrup if anyone wants=20 it!
 
let's = relate this to=20 moby... i wonder how hardcore of a vegan moby is?  does he avoid = sugar and=20 salt?
 
dave
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Laura <chumpette@geocities.com>To:=20 mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Tuesday, September 07, 1999 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: = (mobility)=20 Vegan/musician?

Okay I have a question:  Do = any of=20 the vegans here avoid eating sugar?  I
have a book that says = that=20 sugar is usually filtered using charred cattle
bones, but it = doesn't give=20 any suggestions as far as divining which kinds of
sugar are = filtered that=20 way.  Anybody have any tips, other than "just = quit
eating=20 sugar"?  I'd like to do that, but we sell baked goods = where I=20 work.
And they call out to me. Anyway :)

Baby steps, my = friends,=20 baby steps,
Laura!

--
I think a good novel would be = where a=20 bunch of men on a ship are looking for
a whale.  They look = and look,=20 but you know what? They never find him.  And
you know why = they never=20 find him?  It doesn't say.  The book leaves it up = to
you, the=20 reader, to decide.  Then, at the very end, there's a page that=20 you
can lick and it tastes like = Kool-Aid.

------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BEF936.478FA8E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPlumKing@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) James Bond 3" CD Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:43:10 EDT << I LOVE 3" CDs! Why aren't they being made anymore? |:o( >> They are...they're just in the form of MiniDiscs and you have to pay more money to have MiniDisc players and they come in little square holders so that they can't get scratched very easily. I once had that weird Coca-Cola 3" that came out a LONG time ago and my CD players always spazzed out whenever I put them in there...they started spinning REALLY fast and then slowed down...but I LOVE MiniDiscs for some reason. I'm gonna stop writing...three messages in less than 24 hours...too much for me...I HAVE NO SOCIAL LIFE!! Started a new job and I get energy...WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME?!?!? Swells ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) Questions for Moby Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:43:12 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BEF936.EDE7E360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey joe, why don't you ask moby if he would ever perform an ambient, = lounge type set? or at least throw in some ambient with his regular = show? also ask him how hard core of a vegan he is? does he drink? eat refined = sugar? eat honey? etc etc also ask him if he'd ever date a boy cuz i'm interested :) dave -----Original Message----- From: Novotny, Joe To: 'mobility@lists.xmission.com' Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 1:12 PM Subject: (mobility) Questions for Moby =20 =20 I'm in the process of writing questions for my interview with Moby = (which happens later this week)...anyone have anything that they would like = to ask him? I'll do my best and when I'm done writing my piece, all of you = will be the first to read it. =20 Hugs, Joe ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BEF936.EDE7E360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey joe, = why don't you=20 ask moby if he would ever perform an ambient, lounge type set?  or = at least=20 throw in some ambient with his regular show?
 
also ask = him how hard=20 core of a vegan he is?  does he drink? eat refined sugar?  eat = honey?=20 etc etc
 
also ask = him if he'd ever=20 date a boy cuz i'm interested :)
 
dave
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Novotny, Joe <Joe.Novotny@mail.house.gov= >
To:=20 'mobility@lists.xmission.co= m'=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Tuesday, September 07, 1999 1:12 PM
Subject: = (mobility)=20 Questions for Moby

I'm in the process of writing = questions for my interview with Moby (which
happens later this=20 week)...anyone have anything that they would like to ask
him? = I'll do my=20 best and when I'm done writing my piece, all of you will be
the = first to=20 read it.

Hugs,
Joe
------=_NextPart_000_009B_01BEF936.EDE7E360-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) diets b12 V2 #114 Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:46:07 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01BEF937.55FB4280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you go heidi! by the way, calcium from milk is a lot of hooey. the = calcium you receive from milk is broken down by the protein that milk = also supplies, and then some. by drinking milk you deplete your body of = calcium. milk is not meant for us. it does a body bad. keep in mind = everything you learned about milk as a child was supplied by the dairy = industry. dave -----Original Message----- From: Heidi Gronman To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 12:57 PM Subject: (mobility) diets b12 V2 #114 =20 =20 =20 > Subject: Zen diet and vegetarianism > The Dictionary of Misinformation,=20 =20 > reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words: > Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the = danger of > calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe =20 veg*ans get b-12 and calcium from f.e. alfa-alfa and seaweed. =20 vegans can take care of themselves...:) h =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01BEF937.55FB4280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
you go = heidi!  by=20 the way, calcium from milk is a lot of hooey.  the calcium you = receive from=20 milk is broken down by the protein that milk also supplies, and then = some. =20 by drinking milk you deplete your body of calcium.  milk is not = meant for=20 us.  it does a body bad.  keep in mind everything you learned = about=20 milk as a child was supplied by the dairy industry.
 
dave
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Heidi Gronman <heidig@uiah.fi>
To: = mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Tuesday, September 07, 1999 12:57 PM
Subject: = (mobility) diets=20 b12 V2 #114


> Subject: Zen diet and=20 vegetarianism
> The Dictionary of Misinformation,

> = reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers = words:
>  =20 Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger = of
>=20 calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly=20 severe

veg*ans get b-12 and calcium from  f.e. alfa-alfa = and=20 seaweed.

vegans can take care of=20 themselves...:)
h

------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01BEF937.55FB4280-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patch24601@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby star Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:51:24 EDT It could have been the chemical brothers, I heard the track on a set featuring porcelain and south side and thought I had discovered a lost track by moby, thanks for the info. -Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) awards show wrap up Date: 07 Sep 1999 11:30:36 -0700 (PDT) hey folks! the awards shows were complete successes. of course, nobody showed up, the presenters and hostess not to mention the winners were not present, plus my closet was already booked that night, to hold my stuff, like it always does...... but it was fun anyway. the only thing that really happened was about an hour after the shows were scheduled to begin, i woke up and Rod Richardson (WPKN) was playing "Fingertips" by They Might Be Giants woohoooo!!!!! in case u dont know, at the end of TMBG's album Apollo 18 there is a suite of song fragments called "Fingertips" that are just these like 3-10 second bits of songs, that make absolutely no sense and are often hilariously silly. so i'll be quoting these and crap. alright? bye!!!!!! "pass the milk, please!"-TMBG === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) re:kees Date: 07 Sep 1999 11:52:39 -0700 (PDT) > Phizzo Jobson wrote: > > > > BEST OPENING ACT > > presented by KEES > > i feel sold out, > without even having signed a contract Ha, what i meant was that YOU, kees, would present the award for best opening on the Moby tour, which would be the BOOMBOOM satellites cuz you like them A LOT i like them too. i listened too the album again yesterday, it is REALLY good! anybody else here have it or heaard it? its great! its like the Chems but more eclectic and with much more personality. and (gasp) ORGANIC drum solos!!!!!! and vocals! and guitars! and tootity-flutes!!!! yeah!!!!! > p.s. the opening act will be Jimi Hendrix > performing the last 23 seconds of Come On Baby > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ROCK!!!!! that would be awesome tho > keesz > - -- > Sifl to Chester: "you better wear these > safety-glasses with > thermo-sox" > Sifl never talks to Chester!!!!!!! at least not on the show....... one time he did talk to Precious Roy S:"Precious Roy says go stand in the corner!" Olly:"Ohhhhkayyyy......" S:"Tell us about this great product!" PR:"Dis is Precious Roy! And Charlie left me at the mall!" (forgot which one it was this time, but whatever there all funny) O:"What about the laser peeler?" PR:"My torso's cramping up! Suckers! [falls on the floor]" [Olly falls on the floor} PRECIOUS ROY PRECIOUS ROY MAKIN LOTS A SUCKERS OUT OF GIRLS AND BOYS! DING! bye now! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) mazzy bday Date: 07 Sep 1999 11:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Wasn't Hope from Mazzy on the Chems album? she isnt on the Moby album, but i know she was on SURRENDER (great album! got glint?) also, MOBY ITS YOUR BIRTHDAY! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOBY! okay thats early but who cares? bye! "I'm having a heart attack" TMBG === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Birthday Date: 07 Sep 1999 14:58:43 EDT Moby's birthday is September 11. So only FOUR days to go... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Heidi Gronman Subject: (mobility) silk harm V2 #115 Date: 07 Sep 1999 22:01:40 +0300 (EET DST) > Kyle L Yeates wrote: > i also wear silk shirts because i have this > > whole thing with insects not being real. according studies (don't ask!) silkworms die fast and without suffering. in silkfarms it's done by using boiling steam. so it's somewhat better to use silk than f.e. wool, which is mainly produced in australia, and treating lambs in massproduction is not very friendly. as far as i know (and i think australia is quite far) australianlambs' asses are operated so that they won't spoil that precious wool. and that operation hurts. but, then again: i find it still much reasonable, friendly, better, more beautiful, tolerant etc etc to ENJOY about whatever you do. whatever. it's up to everyone's own feeling what feels good and what's not. i am sorry to preach tonight about veganstuff, i hope i don't make anyone loose nerves. or to get sad. at least animals can't remember in the same way as people do. they live in now. in this moment. they don't have to carry their memories of past happens with them. f.e. your pet certainly is delighted when you two meet, but it doesn't suffer from your nonexistence in the same sense as people do. (this whole rant doesn't include monkeys, our cousins, btw )i hope this helps if someone started to feel bad for what have been said or something. but i'm still sending this cos there might be someone who didn't know and wants to get information all the same. though i bet that f.e. any website of animalrights or vegan-group would give better information. oh yes, i'm vegan, 33, brusher. and preacher, i'm afraid. h, the ultimate besserwisser stay healthy, or else...! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Re: (mobility) pittsburgh Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:46:14 -0400 Jeff! I hope that you're listening to WYEP right now--Moby's the guest DJ. He's playing "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad" right now. Hope to see ya tonight! Jeff On 11:44 AM 9/7/99 -0400, jeff cubeta uttered... >okay - in about six hours, i'm going to meet moby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >jeff > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Taylor" Subject: (mobility) Mazzy's Hope Date: 07 Sep 1999 13:22:55 PDT Yes, Hope from Mazzy Star appears on the song "Asleep From Day" from the Chemical Brothers latest CD Surrender. It is a brilliant song that perfectly blends Mazzy Star's haunting vocals with the Chemical Brothers brooding production. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) James Bond 3" CD Date: 07 Sep 1999 16:57:33 -0400 I don't know about America and England or the country yo uare from Bart (sorry!) but about 80% of the CD singles that come out in Japan are of the 3 inch variety. PErsonally, I get tired of them really quick since they can't fit into changers except some 5 disc trays... But I left that at home for my 300 disc one and have to hook up my discman or Laptop to my stereo to play any of the 3 inchers. I didn't even know that they made them in America... Anyway, Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike A7" Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 06 Sep 1999 01:38:39 -0400 jj fish wrote: > I'm just wondering about the Moby fans out there. Well, this is my first post to the list. I guess you could say I'm a new Moby fan. The first Moby release I bought was the UK CD single of "Honey" BUT at the time I bought it only because it had a Rollo/Sister Bliss remix on it and I collect Faithless stuff. BUT, the local public radio station in Detroit here has a Friday night "Electronic" show and the host Chuck Horn has played stuff off "Play" WEEKLY since it came out. He loves this disc. I heard "Porcelein" and "Natural Blues" on there one night, was BLOWN AWAY by their beauty and immediately purchased "Play". This CD is AMAZING, I can't see anything topping this as my favorite CD of the year. And seeing Moby live this past week in Detroit clinched it for me, this guy is a freaking genius (I'm sure you all don't need to be told :) ) that was the best damn concert I have seen in years and I'm talking of ANY form of music. What a show, what a vibe. Whew! Enough of that long intro. > How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? > Any body a musician? What about ages? I am not a musician but a serious music fan and collector. I take music so seriously, I guess the term "Music geek" applies but it means so much to me I can't even describe it. A new CD is like a movie to me, I have to experience it in the dark with the headphones on that first time to judge it. That's just the start of how serious I take music :) I'm 28 years old. I am not a vegan or a vegetarian. I have cut red meat out of my diet, the thought of eating it sickens me at this point, it's been that way for a few years now after going through a lot of stomach problems. I really want to do more research into a vegetarian diet, I do enjoy chicken and that would be the toughest "meat" to give up. But it is definately something I've considered and this was before Moby. I have had stomach problems my whole life and it has certainly led me to research what I should be putting into my body and it's led me to more veggies and fruit and farther away from meats, eggs, milk etc. As for Moby, I REALLY appreciate how strong he is in his beliefs and speaking about his beliefs. I appreciate the fact he lets people know where he stands but doesn't shove it down peoples throats such as preaching onstage during concerts. It is such a refreshing change from an artist I used to repsect, Prince, who really has driven me away with his continuous onstage preachings about what his fans "Should do" and what is "right and the TRUTH". The Moby concert was refreshing, I respect his beliefs, I share MANY of them, but I also respect his not forcing it on people. God bless Moby :) Later, MikeA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 07 Sep 1999 16:55:30 -0500 I've had trouble with me E-mail all week..so I've lost the original question here...but I think it was just as the subject line implies so... Vegan: No...I'm a vegetarian, and eventually would like to move up to Veganism, but for now, I still need my cheese... Age: 21 Musician: Yes...I play guitar, bass, and keyboards with varying degrees of ability. I'm in an electro-folk duo, if that makes any sense, but don't expect to see any MP3's for a while...we're not going to do any recording for a year as the other half of the duo is on an extended trip to London... which brings me to my question...how does one find out the release dates for CD's in the UK? Is there a good website for that? Thanks, Daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicken Date: 06 Sep 1999 21:47:41 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) That film Baraka, is incredible and Dead can Dance do the introductory music - I think the track is called Yulunga (Spirit Dance) or something - excellent. It's well worth watching - it 'says' a lot, without saying anything. So, whoever next interviews Moby, please ask him does he believe in hell and has he ever done acid or funny shrooms? Thanks. TMB On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:39:29 EDT Arcya@aol.com wrote: > Hi, my name's Gabriele. And I used to eat chicken. ("Hi, Gabriele")...j/k > Well apart from that one fact that Moby shared (the one about "80% of > U.S.D.A. chicken inspectors no longer eating chicken"), I just saw this > amazing docu-film called "Baraka" that has made it impossible for me to eat > chicken. No words, just incredible images from all over the world. But > there's a part in the 2nd half where they show how chickens are processed > from eggs to when they're young chicks. It is totally shocking. Once you > watch that, it's hard to get it out of your conscience... > Okay, now to make it more Moby-related: Moby is wonderful :) > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Baptism and Communion Date: 06 Sep 1999 10:40:56 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Could whoever is next interviewing Moby, ask if he's ever done acid or funny shrooms? Thanks. TMB On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:16:47 -0500 Brad Caviness wrote: After the show, > I asked him what he thinks about while he's performing "Thousand." His > reply: "This sounds really odd, but tonight I was watching the smoke play in > the lights and thinking about string theory." > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) diets b12 V2 #114 Date: 07 Sep 1999 19:15:17 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Plus, grown-up humans don't need as much calcium as babies and young children. A sensible vegan diet, may be good for adults, but maybe not as good for younger kids - though vegetarian diets should pose no problems. TMB On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:54:00 +0300 (EET DST) Heidi Gronman wrote: > > > Subject: Zen diet and vegetarianism > > The Dictionary of Misinformation, > > > reference to the vitamin B-12. In Dr. Mayers words: > > Unless the vegetarian's diet allows milk, there's also the danger of > > calcium deficiency. Calcium deficiency is a particularly severe > > veg*ans get b-12 and calcium from f.e. alfa-alfa and seaweed. > > vegans can take care of themselves...:) > h > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 06 Sep 1999 23:00:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) I'm a vegetarian and I used to play piano and guitar mediocrely too. Now, I havern't the time. I havern't picked my guitar for almost 4 months! 26 and going mad.... Love and anarchy, TMB P.S. Long live Moby! Amen. On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:55:52 -0700 Laura wrote: > helloooo! > > > How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? > > Any body a musician? What about ages? > > i'm a 19 year old singing, mediocre-guitar-&-piano-playing, militant vegetarian > (since i was in fourth grade, woo!) :) i'm going to become a vegan as soon as i > move out of my parents' house. > > > I recently turned vegetarian thanks in part to moby's liner notes in > > Everything is Wrong (those facts really got me). I'm a musician, 2 > > i love this list! > > laura! > -- > I wish I had a dollar for every time I spent a dollar, because then, Yahoo! I'd > have all my money back. > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FILLMMAKER@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:01:04 EDT i eat meat, and love it! no offense intended and just because i eat meat moby doesn't hate me so neither should you. I am 21, and not a musician, however i would like to mix music, anyone know any good programs for doing that on the computer???? i am going to be a filmmaker, you just watch. hatred is sick fillmmaker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FILLMMAKER@aol.com Subject: (mobility) is there a moby show in the boston area soon? Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:02:04 EDT is there a concert in the area or the state around and does anyone have an extra ticket? hatred is sick fillmmaker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kelbert" Subject: (mobility) moby & tori amos? Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:36:16 -0700 (sorry if this has been discussed already... i can't remember anyone mentioning it, but if someone has and i missed it, sorry.) anyway, im sitting here doing the e-mail thing and then on the edge i hear tori amos talking about maybe working with moby. i didn't hear it all because the recycling truck (noisy things. sheesh) just went by and my window is wide open so i just caught the end of it. so whats the deal? anyone else hear about this? is there a possible moby and tori team up in the works? if so, i will be very happy. tori tori tori!!!!!! okay im done. -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Birthday Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:36:56 EDT i think it was on the 9th...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FILLMMAKER@aol.com Subject: (mobility) mission impossible2 soundtrack Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:38:48 EDT i was reading in entertainment weekly and it said tom cruise was choosing songs for the soundtrack and it said moby had submitted a version of the mission impossible theme song hatred is sick fillmmaker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beacwork@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Questions for Moby Date: 07 Sep 1999 19:39:21 EDT Yes. Ask him if he wants to parasail or go jetskiing in ft myers when he plays here the 14th. Blake - Holiday Watersports Ft Myers Beach FL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) insects Date: 07 Sep 1999 22:14:29 EDT In a message dated 9/7/99 1:36:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << i don't want to get all animal rightsy on here, but i do think insects = are wonderful creatures just like everything else on earth. although = they are smaller and more plentiful, they are still beautiful. moby = >> you go!!! i totally agree with you... insects, like any other animal, have rights too. animal lib, vegan power. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re:sugar Date: 07 Sep 1999 22:18:48 EDT In a message dated 9/7/99 2:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << am a vegan and i have heard that some sugar companies refine sugar = with animal products, so you are correct. you just don't know which = ones are and which ones are not. you can totally eat unrefined sugar = (like sucanat, sugar in the raw, all that stuff). keep in mind that = >> i dont eat sugar for ethical reasons. you can use the sugars listed above - they're vegan. you can also use "Jack Frost", which u can find in most supermarkets. animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) milk Date: 07 Sep 1999 22:23:08 EDT In a message dated 9/7/99 2:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << you go heidi! by the way, calcium from milk is a lot of hooey. the = calcium you receive from milk is broken down by the protein that milk = also supplies, and then some. by drinking milk you deplete your body of = calcium. milk is not meant for us. it does a body bad. keep in mind = everything you learned about milk as a child was supplied by the dairy = industry. dave >> you go boy! milk is evil... for your body and for the poor cows. u can get just as much calcium from soy milk(the special fortified ones). animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby's bday Date: 07 Sep 1999 22:27:46 EDT In a message dated 9/7/99 1:36:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << Anyone know when it is? I know he was born in September 1965 (according t >> his bday is this sat the 11th. im goingto see him tomorrow at Irving Plaza baby!!!!!!!! im going to shout out "happy bday!" cant wait to see him again... my 3rd time seeing him in nyc this summer! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) New Writer Intro Date: 08 Sep 1999 14:51:01 +1200 Hey all Moby fans, My name is Joseph (Joe) Parkes and I'm 19 years old. I live in Dunedin, New Zealand, which is down in the South of the South Island. I have been a Moby fan for about a year and a half ever since I got "I like To score". I also have got by Moby, Everything is Wrong, ETW remixed, Animal Rights, Play, Voodoo Child and various soundtracks like Spawn and Jackal. I am not vegetarian so even though it might turn alot of u guys off me, it is Moby that brings us together. Please don't judge me. I know it is wrong to eat or wear animals but if you met me I am a sensitive person, I cried when I shot a rabbit two summers ago. Pretty pathetic aye. I guess I'm a coward for eating meat, but right now I have so many other pressures in my life it seems less important. I'm Sorry. Something Positive Now Other bands that light my ring include, Smashing Pumpkins, Creed, Tool, BT, and pretty much everything in between. I just went to a Creed concert (absolutely amazing) in Christchurch and I'm saving for Moby's Wellington show, and I was wondering if you guys can give me an indepth point of view of what goes on at his concerts, like does he mix other peoples music or does he play his funky stuff. Do we stand and listen or do we rave. I would kill to hear "Face It" Live which is my favourite track of his. Next would be Shining, First Cool Hive, New Dawn Fades, and God moving.... I think it also has to do with the movies I watch. I LOVE movies, and Moby just gives them that much more. I mean you watch the movie and because his musik is almost haunting, and inspirational that when you listen to it later it feels as if your in the movie. Heat for example: at the end when Al is holding Bob's hand, it is an amazing mix of emotions, they are both good characters but he had to do his job etc etc I could go on for days And the musik just heightens the experience. I can't describe it but when I put the Cd on I want to cry. But First Cool Hive sends shivers down my Spine And I LOVE it. Scream is my favourite movie and Moby just makes it that much better. We actually studied Scream at University, Thats what I'm doing now. I would love to get to know a few of u guys personally so Email me if your keen, we can talk about other things like Movies for example. Even if you want to know what New Zealand is like because I would love to hear about other countries. I better go write an essay now so I hope I'll hear from you guys soon? Spot Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins Fan Rob Date: 08 Sep 1999 15:08:26 +1200 Awesome to hear another pumkins fan mate. My Favourite Band That Moby mix of 1979 is awesome aye, It's sooo haunting and you can just tell its him. Love It. I've got it as well. I have Some smashing pumpkins bootlegs, like Live At Brixton, and Dawn, And Acoustic Dreams. Billy, James and Moby should team up more oftn, considering Billy wants to go futuristic. Spot Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Pumpkins Fan Rob Date: 06 Sep 1999 22:11:16 -0500 I talked to moby about that mix on saturday when i saw him in dallas. Originally moby did the remix for free (on the basis that eventually billy would do one for him) I asked moby if billy had done any remix and he said "No, but i've been pestering him about it for 3 years now" I would love to hear a pumpkins remix of "porcelain" or "southside" This is my list.... its not updated... i've gotten a few new ones off the newest tour, but i haven't organized them . "Three Feet High" 06-16-90 Madison, WI 08-25-95 Reading Festival 10-23-95 Chicago, IL "The World Is A Vampire" 03-13-96 Turpentine Kisses 11-23-96 01-08-97 01-15-98 Viper Room Show 07-19-98 Much Music Show 07-19-98 07-31-98 Boston MA 02-09-91 Cambridge MA 02-12-91 NY, NY 04-07-96 Dusseldorf, Germany "Secrets of Your Dreams" 05-23-25-98 London 05-25-98 Stockholm Sweden 08-01-98 NY, NY 08-02-98 08-06-98 Charlotte NC 10-05-88 10-05-93 12-05-97 Miami FL Halloween Party 1993 Letterman Much Music Video Awards "The Greatest Day" Joseph Parkes wrote: > Awesome to hear another pumkins fan mate. > My Favourite Band > That Moby mix of 1979 is awesome aye, It's sooo haunting and you can just > tell its him. Love It. I've got it as well. > I have Some smashing pumpkins bootlegs, like Live At Brixton, and Dawn, And > Acoustic Dreams. > Billy, James and Moby should team up more oftn, considering Billy wants to > go futuristic. > Spot > Joe > > Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 08 Sep 1999 15:21:13 +1200 Wow thats amazing the amount of bootlegs you've got. Do you get them off the internet or buy them as a Cd? I get mine from the Musik stores. They overcharge them but what can u do aye? SP new album must be out soon. Same with Tool and Creed What kind of Moby songs do you like best the new big beat, or the old rave or the classic ambient feeling vibes? Good ol rock kicks a bit of ass too mind you. Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Pumpkins Fan Rob Date: 06 Sep 1999 22:18:19 -0500 Sorry about that folks! I didn't realize it was going over the whole list! but since it did..... What does everyone else think of the 1979 remix????? I know there are quite a few pumpkin fans here... so this might be interesting ----rob btw... i talked to moby saturday in ST. LOUIS.... not dallas... the st. louis show was amazing...... Greta even told me she was impressed! The venue only held 650 people! It was like seeing moby play in a friends garage. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: (mobility) Moby Bootlegs Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:26:43 -0700 Does anyone have any "good" Moby bootlegs? I am doing loading some from Woodstock 99 right now. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Bootlegs Date: 06 Sep 1999 22:23:41 -0500 I tried to record the St. Louis show to minidisc.... but the bass was incredible.... (I swear whenever it the bass hit hard... the wall would move at least an inch.) The bass took out my poor cheap mic. Are you uploading these moby bootlegs? or downloading them? either way, WHERE ARE THEY?? :) =====rob Jeff Logan wrote: > Does anyone have any "good" Moby bootlegs? I am doing loading some > from Woodstock 99 right now. > > Jeff -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Bootlegs Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:32:15 -0700 I am downloading them. I will post them once I get everyone of them. Jeff Logan >I tried to record the St. Louis show to minidisc.... but the bass was >incredible.... (I swear whenever it the bass hit hard... the wall would >move at least an inch.) The bass took out my poor cheap mic. > >Are you uploading these moby bootlegs? or downloading them? either way, >WHERE ARE THEY?? :) > >=====rob > >Jeff Logan wrote: > >> Does anyone have any "good" Moby bootlegs? I am doing loading some >> from Woodstock 99 right now. >> >> Jeff > >-- > > ><-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> >"An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking >of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile >of broken glass near the east stage. >The driver's-side door bore a green >Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" > -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots ><-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) hola! Date: 07 Sep 1999 18:39:55 -0500 >I'm wasn't sure what the toleration here was about introducing yourself, but >since the welcome message prompted me to, here goes.....my name is Chris >Doherty. Hey, Chris. Nice to see a fellow flisher around here. :) -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) Date: 07 Sep 1999 21:39:43 -0500 >- ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BEF935.1929B820 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >[!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"] >[HTML] >[HEAD] [snip] Please turn off HTML in your e-mail clients! It shows up as, well, HTML, for those of us on the digest. (Angle brackets turned into square brackets so you folks will see it.) -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TronicaFan@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Questions for Moby Date: 07 Sep 1999 23:54:50 EDT anyone have anything that they would like to ask him? What is "your weakness"? -Riley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: Re: (mobility) Questions for Moby Date: 07 Sep 1999 20:59:53 -0700 >anyone have anything that they would like to ask >him? > >What is "your weakness"? > >-Riley Why did he do VH1's Karoke Cabera? Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anne N Thalheimer Subject: Re: (mobility) Questions for Moby Date: 08 Sep 1999 00:00:14 -0400 (EDT) as for questions for moby, i still wanna know what was going on in his head with the three pictures on the inside of animal rights--what possessed him to dress up like those three charactes (what/who are they?) and what're his thoughts on drag? i'm just curious--the example seems to fit well enough in my dissertation chapter, but i just wonder why he set 'em up the way he did. & thanks too to folks who responded to my earlier post about moby & drag, by the way. anne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raven" Subject: Re: (mobility) Pumpkins Fan Rob Date: 08 Sep 1999 00:10:12 -0400 > I talked to moby about that mix on saturday when i saw him in dallas. > Originally moby did the remix for free (on the basis that eventually billy > would do one for him) I asked moby if billy had done any remix and he said > "No, but i've been pestering him about it for 3 years now" I would love to > hear a pumpkins remix of "porcelain" or "southside" As far as I know, the Pumpkins have never done a remix (or Billy personally). I had heard he was supposed to reciprocate and remix a Moby track, and I had heard it's sort of in the works, mentally, but I doubt it will be soon. Last I heard they were still working on the new album, due out in February 2000. Which sucks, ya know? The new SP album will be out two months after you won't be able to order it over the internet, or buy it with your credit card, or get it at the store 'cuz the electricity will be gone, and heck, you won't have any money anyway because your bank will be dead.....shoot, they'll just have to give the album to us! Maybe the y2k bug ain't so bad after all......;-) It would be kind of interesting to hear, since SP is so much more electronic now. Actually, I hope SP goes more techno and/or electro-goth-ish. The last album was very goth, but I had been hoping it would be more electronic...actually, I think the one thing I missed most was the aggression. The Pumpkins have never released an album without a wide range of emotions, anger being top of the list, so it was kind of odd....I really enjoyed "Eye" and "The End Is..." and their other dark techno/industrial type tracks....... Ta ta, Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raven" Subject: Re: (mobility) hola! Date: 08 Sep 1999 00:25:57 -0400 > Hey, Chris. Nice to see a fellow flisher around here. :) Yeah, I noticed you were here earlier!! Cool beans... What is a "flisher", the rest of you ask? It's a member of the Flaming Fish Music list. FFM happens to be one of the grooviest little indie labels this side of the hemisphere.....they're decently known for putting out industrial bands, but they've been picking up musicians from all flavors of techno, along with synthpop and gothic rock. Some of their stuff would probably appeal to a Moby fan--I've heard a few similarities, but as I've said previously, I'm not a diehard got-every-album fan of Moby yet, so I wouldn't want to spout of recommendations. The site's even got a snazzy design....www.flamingfish.com And believe it or not, I'm entirely unconnected to the label. :-) Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Bootlegs Date: 07 Sep 1999 22:24:13 -0600 were you referring to moby at woodstock bootleg, or no? quite curious... i was there, he put on a great show, although kinda short. P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/artists/46/prixfix.html goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Logan Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Bootlegs Date: 07 Sep 1999 21:37:56 -0700 >were you referring to moby at woodstock bootleg, or no? quite curious... i >was there, he put on a great show, although kinda short. >P.L.U.R. -dale- >Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/artists/46/prixfix.html >goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou >.. >-me Yeah that is the one's I am talking about. I have another 7 files to go. I have heard the first of the files and the sound quality is OK, but still it's Moby! Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) Vegan/musician? Date: 07 Sep 1999 23:06:34 -0700 --------------BAB33341365DE65871DB0426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > i doubt the baked goods at work are vegan other than the sugar, are they? > no eggs or anything? > i'm sure there are eggs and/or milk.. i'm not a vegan yet.. but i don't like the idea of eating something that requires a dead animal for the refining process.. like sugar. > let's relate this to moby... i wonder how hardcore of a vegan moby > is? does he avoid sugar and salt? dave i was going to ask the same question.. that's part of why i asked. sooo... i have no idea :) laura! -- I think a good novel would be where a bunch of men on a ship are looking for a whale. They look and look, but you know what? They never find him. And you know why they never find him? It doesn't say. The book leaves it up to you, the reader, to decide. 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i doubt the baked goods at work are vegan other than the sugar, are they?  
no eggs or anything?
 i'm sure there are eggs and/or milk.. i'm not a vegan yet.. but i don't like the idea of eating something that requires a dead animal for the refining process.. like sugar.
 
 
 let's relate this to moby... i wonder how hardcore of a vegan moby is?  does he avoid sugar and salt? dave
 i was going to ask the same question.. that's part of why i asked.  sooo... i have no idea :)

laura!
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I think a good novel would be where a bunch of men on a ship are looking for a whale.  They look and look, but you know what? They never find him.  And you know why they never find him?  It doesn't say.  The book leaves it up to you, the reader, to decide.  Then, at the very end, there's a page that you can lick and it tastes like Kool-Aid.
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And your first kiss from a.....eh, maybe i should stop there. *grin* dee dah dah dee doo... :) *mwah* Big hugs - (yeah it's early, so sue me. :)) sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html ........................it takes to courage to enjoy it ...................the hardcore and the gentle .............a big time sensuality ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) 3" CDs (a bit off-topic..sorry) Date: 08 Sep 1999 10:39:24 +0200 AJ Brustein wrote: ============== >I don't know about America and England or the country you are from Bart >(sorry!) but about 80% of the CD singles that come out in Japan are of >the 3 inch variety. PErsonally, I get tired of them really quick since >they can't fit into changers except some 5 disc trays... But I left that >at home for my 300 disc one and have to hook up my discman or Laptop to >my stereo to play any of the 3 inchers. I didn't even know that they >made them in America... Anyway, Later. Well, I live in the Netherlands (Europe) and here I haven't seen a 3" release for years! I have one from 1991 from the Bangles, 3" discs used to be quite common here 8-9 years ago... Now they are only ocasionally made as limited edition or free CDs (like that James Bond one) I don't have a CD changer, so I don't mind their format! I wish all 2-track CDs were 3" ones, they are easy to transport because they fit easily into almost any pocket, and they look kinda cute too :) But I also think it's a shame that most changers aren't 3" compatibel, and that there are also no special storage racks for them (perhaps only in Japan..) (<>,,<>) Bart np: Ome Henk - Mambo Nr. 6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 08 Sep 1999 09:34:55 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Hatred IS sick - I just hope those meat eaters don't hate those who chose not to eat it either. I actually like the taste of meat, especially pork. I just don't eat it because I don't have to inflict cruelty and suffering to live. If I was an eskimo in the arctic, then I wouldn't have much choice - eat meat, I would. I read that article aimed against vegetarians John, and I agree with lots of what was said. I still would rather not inflict suffering on animals, when I don't have to though. The Bible seems to be have contradictory views on this, if you believe that everything in The Bible is absolute, without any form of human error (which I don't). TMB On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:01:04 EDT FILLMMAKER@aol.com wrote: > i eat meat, and love it! no offense intended and just because i eat meat > moby doesn't hate me so neither should you. I am 21, and not a musician, > however i would like to mix music, anyone know any good programs for doing > that on the computer???? i am going to be a filmmaker, you just watch. > > hatred is sick > fillmmaker > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) is there a moby show in the boston area soon? Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:55:00 -0400 nope. There is no show in the near future -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 6:02 PM is there a concert in the area or the state around and does anyone have an extra ticket? hatred is sick fillmmaker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) milk Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:58:00 -0400 Don't cows die if they are not milked? -----Original Message----- you go boy! milk is evil... for your body and for the poor cows. u can get just as much calcium from soy milk(the special fortified ones). animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Davies, Andrew" Subject: (mobility) Flim Flammin Chords Date: 08 Sep 1999 09:00:57 -0500 Hey everyone, I am not one to deviate from topic for long, but I felt that you all should be made aware of a WONDERFUL CD out there by one of our very own members! Tone Matrix (a.k.a. Eric Goldberg) has released Flim Flammin Chords. I am not very good at trying to review an album, but believe me when I say that this CD should be checked out by EVERYONE on the list... Check out http://www.tonematrix.com for more info. That is all. Now back to our regularly scheduled Moby-birthday countdown... andy gingerbread man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) re: Vegan, etc. &New Writer Intro Date: 08 Sep 1999 07:49:39 PDT >I am not vegetarian so even though it might turn alot of u guys off >me, it >is Moby that brings us together. Please don't judge me. Joseph Parkes >parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz I always knew we had vegans and veggies on the list, but I always thought they were a minority! I remember last time the subject came up there were lots of folks defending being carnivorous and citing the course of evolution. Anyways, this is more of a survey than a debate this time. It seems the ranks are swelling! It's nice to see that Moby's ideals have effected some of you. I've been toying with the idea of vegetarianism for a while now, but I currently eat meat, poultry, and shellfish. (I hate fish) I have noticed that after a barbeque I feel sluggish for a few days and after a day of nachos and quesadillas I feel light and energized. Makes me think. Anyways, my point is, Joseph, that you'll find that you won't be judged harshly or negatively for being a meat-eater. We have all different sorts of people from all over he world, and I must say we're a tolerant crowd, so make no apologies. :) -Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:09:17 PDT Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Somebody asked why Moby did VH1's kareoke show. Well, why not? He did mention in a Rolling Stone interview shortly before Play released that he'd been going to kareoke every Wednesday night for a while with Michael Stipe. Also Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby in drag and in the bathtub for some obscure magazine whose title escapes me now. Anyway, kareoke is good, harmless fun, nothing to ashamed of, unless (gasp!) you're SOPHISTICATED. :) No flame intended. As for the remix that was released on the 1979 single, I think it sucks. It just doesn't seem to do much. It's just my taste, I guess, but it's just too wishy-washy for me. No, that's not it, I like wish-wash sometimes. Bland? No, it's got flavor, it just thick and slow, like spilling molasses. Yeah, I fuckin hate molasses and honey and syrup, so there you are. I understand that there's a disco mix of 1979 Moby made that kicks, though. ;) -Steve P.S. If anybody reads Preacher or Sandman, aren't they great!?!?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:09:17 PDT Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Somebody asked why Moby did VH1's kareoke show. Well, why not? He did mention in a Rolling Stone interview shortly before Play released that he'd been going to kareoke every Wednesday night for a while with Michael Stipe. Also Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby in drag and in the bathtub for some obscure magazine whose title escapes me now. Anyway, kareoke is good, harmless fun, nothing to ashamed of, unless (gasp!) you're SOPHISTICATED. :) No flame intended. As for the remix that was released on the 1979 single, I think it sucks. It just doesn't seem to do much. It's just my taste, I guess, but it's just too wishy-washy for me. No, that's not it, I like wish-wash sometimes. Bland? No, it's got flavor, it just thick and slow, like spilling molasses. Yeah, I fuckin hate molasses and honey and syrup, so there you are. I understand that there's a disco mix of 1979 Moby made that kicks, though. ;) -Steve P.S. If anybody reads Preacher or Sandman, aren't they great!?!?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:09:17 PDT Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Somebody asked why Moby did VH1's kareoke show. Well, why not? He did mention in a Rolling Stone interview shortly before Play released that he'd been going to kareoke every Wednesday night for a while with Michael Stipe. Also Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby in drag and in the bathtub for some obscure magazine whose title escapes me now. Anyway, kareoke is good, harmless fun, nothing to ashamed of, unless (gasp!) you're SOPHISTICATED. :) No flame intended. As for the remix that was released on the 1979 single, I think it sucks. It just doesn't seem to do much. It's just my taste, I guess, but it's just too wishy-washy for me. No, that's not it, I like wish-wash sometimes. Bland? No, it's got flavor, it just thick and slow, like spilling molasses. Yeah, I fuckin hate molasses and honey and syrup, so there you are. I understand that there's a disco mix of 1979 Moby made that kicks, though. ;) -Steve P.S. If anybody reads Preacher or Sandman, aren't they great!?!?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:09:17 PDT Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Somebody asked why Moby did VH1's kareoke show. Well, why not? He did mention in a Rolling Stone interview shortly before Play released that he'd been going to kareoke every Wednesday night for a while with Michael Stipe. Also Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby in drag and in the bathtub for some obscure magazine whose title escapes me now. Anyway, kareoke is good, harmless fun, nothing to ashamed of, unless (gasp!) you're SOPHISTICATED. :) No flame intended. As for the remix that was released on the 1979 single, I think it sucks. It just doesn't seem to do much. It's just my taste, I guess, but it's just too wishy-washy for me. No, that's not it, I like wish-wash sometimes. Bland? No, it's got flavor, it just thick and slow, like spilling molasses. Yeah, I fuckin hate molasses and honey and syrup, so there you are. I understand that there's a disco mix of 1979 Moby made that kicks, though. ;) -Steve P.S. If anybody reads Preacher or Sandman, aren't they great!?!?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:09:17 PDT Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Somebody asked why Moby did VH1's kareoke show. Well, why not? He did mention in a Rolling Stone interview shortly before Play released that he'd been going to kareoke every Wednesday night for a while with Michael Stipe. Also Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby in drag and in the bathtub for some obscure magazine whose title escapes me now. Anyway, kareoke is good, harmless fun, nothing to ashamed of, unless (gasp!) you're SOPHISTICATED. :) No flame intended. As for the remix that was released on the 1979 single, I think it sucks. It just doesn't seem to do much. It's just my taste, I guess, but it's just too wishy-washy for me. No, that's not it, I like wish-wash sometimes. Bland? No, it's got flavor, it just thick and slow, like spilling molasses. Yeah, I fuckin hate molasses and honey and syrup, so there you are. I understand that there's a disco mix of 1979 Moby made that kicks, though. ;) -Steve P.S. If anybody reads Preacher or Sandman, aren't they great!?!?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:09:17 PDT Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Somebody asked why Moby did VH1's kareoke show. Well, why not? He did mention in a Rolling Stone interview shortly before Play released that he'd been going to kareoke every Wednesday night for a while with Michael Stipe. Also Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby in drag and in the bathtub for some obscure magazine whose title escapes me now. Anyway, kareoke is good, harmless fun, nothing to ashamed of, unless (gasp!) you're SOPHISTICATED. :) No flame intended. As for the remix that was released on the 1979 single, I think it sucks. It just doesn't seem to do much. It's just my taste, I guess, but it's just too wishy-washy for me. No, that's not it, I like wish-wash sometimes. Bland? No, it's got flavor, it just thick and slow, like spilling molasses. Yeah, I fuckin hate molasses and honey and syrup, so there you are. I understand that there's a disco mix of 1979 Moby made that kicks, though. ;) -Steve P.S. If anybody reads Preacher or Sandman, aren't they great!?!?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 08:09:17 PDT Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Somebody asked why Moby did VH1's kareoke show. Well, why not? He did mention in a Rolling Stone interview shortly before Play released that he'd been going to kareoke every Wednesday night for a while with Michael Stipe. Also Stipe took lots of pictures of Moby in drag and in the bathtub for some obscure magazine whose title escapes me now. Anyway, kareoke is good, harmless fun, nothing to ashamed of, unless (gasp!) you're SOPHISTICATED. :) No flame intended. As for the remix that was released on the 1979 single, I think it sucks. It just doesn't seem to do much. It's just my taste, I guess, but it's just too wishy-washy for me. No, that's not it, I like wish-wash sometimes. Bland? No, it's got flavor, it just thick and slow, like spilling molasses. Yeah, I fuckin hate molasses and honey and syrup, so there you are. I understand that there's a disco mix of 1979 Moby made that kicks, though. ;) -Steve P.S. If anybody reads Preacher or Sandman, aren't they great!?!?! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: "why so many?" --was-- Re: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 08 Sep 1999 09:26:54 -0600 Steve Giles wrote: > > Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? Did everybody else receive about eight copies of the above email? I'm not sure what went wrong. The XMission server seems to be having a lot of hiccup's lately. And I hate to be a downer on the recent vegan / vegetarian parade but maybe it's time to let this die down a bit. damian. (who's striving to cut meat out of his diet, and really struggles when it comes to chicken) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: "why so many?" --was-- Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:42:14 EDT yeah..i got the same 8 and it sucked.... i like meat and i like moby and to many, becoming a vegetarian or a vegan is what fashion trends are calling for....it is not a belief anymore for many....love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SiD Subject: Re: "why so many?" --was-- Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:12:22 -0500 On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 11:42:14AM -0400, Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > i like meat and i like moby and to many, becoming a vegetarian or a vegan is > what fashion trends are calling for....it is not a belief anymore for > many....love..elie Oh please. I've been hearing this trend argument forever. Even if it is "TRENDY" that doesn't mean you can discount it. If Moby got really popular (as is bound to happen) and it was "TRENDY" to like him would you stop? Not eating animals is simple. It doesn't take time to work around, it's something you can do easily just about anywhere on the globe and I think we're all smart enough to realize that taking the live of another being pointlessly is just selfish. I just don't see how anything else can be said (unless we brought in the environmental, social & health benefits to eating lower on the social chain). You're welcome to your opinion, but of course it's wrong. :) SiD -- SiD sid@vicious.com http://www.urinine.com/~sid/ "Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not scratch. Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life is that?" -Pavement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: (mobility) stuff Date: 08 Sep 1999 10:24:05 -0600 >And I hate to be a downer on the recent vegan / vegetarian parade but >maybe it's time to let this die down a bit. i agree totally... it IS getting kind of annoying to decide if sugar is safe to eat or not. (they could be fake cow bones) im personally not an advocate of vegan/vegetarianism, but its a noble cause.... heh.. anyway, i was wondering if anyone else in denver is going to DJRap's instore appearance at Twist and Shout Underground. She is supposed to be spinning, or so says the guy that was there yesterday. anyway, Shes gonna be there this saturday at 5, and will be having a show down in colorado springs for about 15 bucks. 21 and over, i think. damn bars. laterage. P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/artists/46/prixfix.html goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert O. Skipworth" Subject: (mobility) 1979 disco mix Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:58:39 -0500 (CDT) Does anyone have a tape,mp3,minidisk, ANYTHING that has a recording of the 1979 remix disco mix? I talked to moby about it in st. louis and he told me it was quite beautiful. I'm dying to hear this. I asked him about plans to release it and he never gave me a straight answer. I remember a rumor once that he was going to take all the pumpkins samples out of it and just release it himself. If anyone has a copy PLEASE let me know I will gladly trade mass quantities of bootlegs for it. Also... speaking of BOOTLEGS.....where are the ones from the woodstock show? Could you please post an URL for that? thanks ----rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:18:03 -0700 jj fish wrote: > > > >How many of you are vegan? vegetarian? > >Any body a musician? What about ages? > Yeah, I was wondering this too. I'm a chicken terrorist meaning I would be a vegitarian if it weren't for those darn tasty chickens. I know, I'm a bad person. I took guitar for three years but can't play. I love to sing but no one acknowledges my singing and I (thankfully for MY sanity) am a severtimes published writer and in a small way, maybe that could be musical, if someone sang the poems. :-P I'm 20 yrs old. --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Survey: Vegans? Ages? Musicians? Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:21:29 -0700 > > > > I am not Vegan, nor Vegetarian, but I respect so very > >much the people who are. I am a musician, a Dj in fact (my Dj name is Dj > >Skittles). I'm 13 and am a complete Moby head. I've grown up to his music, > >and I also love Unkle, Plastikman, Orbital, BT, Tod Terri, Boom Boom > >Satelites, Intercourse (its a band), Porno Kings, and many more. Ok! I'm > >shure you've herd enuff! > > Wow, so young. Sorry, I hope I don't offend. I'm just stunned by what ppl your age are doing. Kids are growing up so fast. I remember being such a dork when I was 13. God. :-P The only thing cool I listened to when I was 13 was Pearl Jam. :-P But I still love them. *sigh* Is there any one else on the list 16 and under? If so, what kinds of things do you like and how long have you been into MOBY? How did you get exposed? I'm so darn curious. :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) THE 1999 MOBY AWARDS!!! YAY!!!!!! Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:29:26 -0700 > >BEST FEMALE SINGER > >presented by Julee Cruise > Why is that? Do you just like her or does she/ did she do any back up for MOBY. She's tops I think. I've heard her two albums and they were fab. Her vocals on the Twin Peaks ST are great. *sob* So depressing. > > >and of course musical performances from Britney > >Spears, the Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, and some > >other groups, whatever. > Gee wiz, if I can't attend, can you get a signed pair of panties from BS. My bf would love that. It would also give me something to choke him to death w/. J/K > > >Takes place tonight at 3:30 AM in my closet, and since > >i mean if nobody arrives to get thier trophies, i will > >keep them all. also at the same time is the S&O awards > >hosted by Bjork. > Gee, is there enough room in your closet? Like Living Color would say "something something....a big enough closet for everyone in the world...." but I'm not sure. Has anyone heard that song? I think it's called "bi". Heehehe. Funny song. :-) --kimby PS it was a MOBY post, I swear!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Scooter??? Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:40:03 -0700 > > > >On a whim, I grabbed the "Hackers2" comp soundtrack and gave it a listen. > >Besides Moby, there was an artist on it called Scooter. Any info on > >him/them? Just curious, i liked the track and wanted to hear more. > Okay, what's up w/ the Hackers conspiracy? My ex had Hackers 1 and 2 and I loved both. I hear there's a Hackers 3? The movie was really goofy. I can't imagine then making a sequel or anything else. What's up w/ the dealio? Why are they still making sound tracks for a movie that's been out for a few years? I dunno, but I loved the songs. I loved "Remember"...Left Field right? *sigh* Is MOBY on the new st? What song? *sigh* --kimby > > l ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Shopwell!!! Date: 08 Sep 1999 11:49:48 -0700 > >the slave thinx he is released from bondage, only to find a stronger set of > >chains.. Gee, I hate to say it but that's very not MOBY. That's NIN from the Broken sleeve. That's my fave quote actually. Very not MOBY but I could be wrong. What is this in reference to? Anything? Just a cool quote? *sigh* But I'm not being a list policer or anything. Okay, um, gee now I need a MOBY related thing. Uh, well, I was in Cali and I could see no signs of MOBY interest. All I saw was Ricky Martin junk. I didn't even hear any MOBY on the radio. Gee, that was anti-interesting. Fact: Moby was in Joe's Apt. I know that was him. I jumped and and down and was all hyper and my friend was like...."What's your problem?" He looked cute. So cute. How many flicks has MOBY been in? Anyone know? --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Chicken Date: 08 Sep 1999 12:03:55 -0700 > >That film Baraka, is incredible and Dead can Dance do the > >introductory music - I think the track is called Yulunga > >(Spirit Dance) or something - excellent. It's well worth > >watching - it 'says' a lot, without saying anything. > Good god, more and more I wish I could just give up that tasty chicken. *sigh* I do feel bad for the little buggers though. :-) > > >So, whoever next interviews Moby, please ask him does he > >believe in hell and has he ever done acid or funny shrooms? > Wow, I can see that. I can see MOBY eating shrooms. Why? Dunno. Oh, dumb question for MOBY: do you belive in keeping pets? Do you think that's unfair to the animals? That's a nagging question. But it kinda makes one wonder. --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) moby & tori amos? Date: 08 Sep 1999 12:07:16 -0700 > > > >is there a possible moby and tori team up in the works? > >if so, i will be very happy. tori tori tori!!!!!! okay im done. > > Man, that would be musical Heaven for me. I love Tori and MOBY. Two of my faves. Now all they need to do is get MORRISSEY in there and I'll be happy. I could just die. :-) Anyone hear Blue Skies, the second disk in Ima by BT? God, I love that song. I would love to hear Tori do a vocal track over some good old fashion ambient-ish MOBY stuff. Common, ya gotta love it. --kimby PS sorry for all the emails, but I was gone for a few days and I'm just responding to the emails that interest me. :-) sorry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) pittsburgh in review Date: 08 Sep 1999 14:54:08 -0400 moby succeeded in blowing the minds of eveyone in attendance at his pittsburgh show last night. moby is in a nutshell the most impassioned, inspirational and open-minded pop artist today - IMHO. his show was electric, and his musicianship is brilliant. when asked if he has perfect pitch, moby humbly chortled and said, "my ear is SO bad!!" he's even cuter in person than when photographed!! the setlist - (it was kindly handed to me by one of moby's crew members) - my weakness find my baby machete porcelain james bond theme go next is the E everloving why does my heart feel so bad if things were perfect ah-ah bring back my happiness natural blues bodyrock honey encores - feeling so real (country) feeling so real (original) walk this way (the aerosmith standard) thousand it was said to him last night (in thank-you note form), and it shall be said to him again - thank you, moby, for being an incredible inspiration!! you have changed lives!! god bless him - jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cstepanek@nny.com (Chris Stepanek) Subject: (mobility) the vegan issue. Date: 08 Sep 1999 15:10:21 -0500 The way I look at it everyone makes personal descions in their life as to how they choose to live it. Personally I choose not to drink, drug, smoke or take medication. I was veggie for a long time and gradually began eating meat again after some time and continue to eat meat every so often. The part about evolution is true, the strong over-power the weak. That might not be the most PC way to look at things but that is the way it is. Yes, we as enlightened (resoning) beings, should be able to overcome this and use compasion. Either way you look at it is just fine, we all think and should reason for ourselves. I do have a problem with people preaching to me when they are hypocritical in their own actions. Like those fools who stand outside fur stores and throw blood on people walking out (fools too) while at the same time they have on leather shoes and belts and are wearing clothes dyed with non-vegan dyes and such. That I have a problem with. if you sit there and preach you better know your facts. Preaching veggie/vegan ways while wearing/using animal products is a bit wrong. I choose not to drink or drug or smoke or take some medications. I wear clothes that I know (at least try to) about the dyes used the processes used in making them. I eat meat, but don't go around preaching one should not or should. I come from the Straight-Edge Vegan hardcore scene of Syracuse, NY (militant vegans among militant vegans (back in the day) for those who know hardcore). I knew many people who became vegan on a whim and are still paying for it today with their health. Thinking salad with Bacos is vegan and you can live on tha with vitiamin supplements is wrong. A vegan diet is a very serious thing, you should know what you are doing when you go on it and should ease into it gradually. i have seen to many people hurt themselves with their own ignorance. Even a vegitarian diet can be harmful if done wrong. DOn't stop eating meat and just eat beams and junk food and such, not eating meat reducs protein and to replace that you need to compensate with extra amounts of protein rich veggies. As far as Veganism being more compasionate and better on the planet I am not sold on that 100%. Man-kind is a plague on this planet and every planet/land we touch and will touch. As our nature we destroy all we touch, mankind that is. I think industrial pollution is a bigger problem than agricultural polution. Granted land use with crops as opposed to cattle is more efficient, but farmers will still farm with hormones and chemicals and until we as a world farm 100% organic the problem is still there. Do i have an answer to these problems? Nope. Nor do i claim to. I just want to point out a few mis-conceptons of this current ultra-PC attitude that especially American society has. One major step that would help however is population control. That brings up a whole bunch of personal freedom issues though. the answer is is to have people realize that not everyone needs 2.5 kids. How to do that is another question. - chris.stepanek / sr.designer / nny / cstepanek@nny.com / ICQ25163388 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby's pets Date: 08 Sep 1999 16:31:32 EDT Hey Kim :) Okay I read in a Moby site that he does or did have a dog (Walnut) and a cat (Daisy). That sorta thing makes sense to me since he obviously loves animals so much, and those kinda of social animals (ok maybe cats aren't that social all the time...hmm...) seem to adapt well to living in different conditions as long as we take care of 'em. But that's my take on it... Have a good day! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) wdmhfsb Date: 08 Sep 1999 21:58:06 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEFA45.3B3EA040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just heard the promo for why does my heart feel so bad the = gurella mix is fantastic and the atb mix is very club friendly it should make a great impact on the charts does anyone know if moby is remixing this song? ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEFA45.3B3EA040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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it should make a great impact on the = charts
does anyone know if moby is remixing this=20 song?
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEFA45.3B3EA040-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! (Trendy? + NO) Date: 08 Sep 1999 14:30:49 PDT >On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 11:42:14AM -0400, Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > > i like meat and i like moby and to many, becoming a vegetarian or a >vegan is > > what fashion trends are calling for....it is not a belief anymore for > > many....love..elie None of my friends are vegan or vegetarian. None of my friends think it's fashionable. It's more of a pain to be vegetarian, it's less easy to eat out. How is it fashionable? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Vegans? (not trying to piss you off) Date: 08 Sep 1999 14:35:41 PDT Hey, I was just asking for a survey, don't everybody get pissed off at me for asking. Just wondering. I'm surprised at all the vegetarians, etc, here! I'm not trying to judge or convert or anything. I'm just curious, since I don't have any friends in my circles that are vegetarians... I'm the only one in my school, I tink! Solly. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) Re: pittsburgh in review Date: 08 Sep 1999 17:54:16 -0400 >encores - > feeling so real (country) > feeling so real (original) > walk this way (the aerosmith standard) > thousand i forgot - moby also did "that's when i reach for my revolver" as another encore....four encores!!!! wooooo!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave \"DT007\" Toews" Subject: (mobility) Question about the MTV Music/Video Awards... Date: 08 Sep 1999 19:19:46 -0300 I am just wondering, I know that Moby will be preforming live at the MTV Music/Video awards (09/09/99) but I am also wondering if he hiself is up for any awards? If he is that would be very kool, and that might mean that I can see one of his videos. (I havent seen 1 yet) I might be able to see them becasue the music station up here in Canada (Much Music) is doing a pre-game show, and are going to be playing alot of the videos of the nominees.. Anyway, thanks DT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beacwork@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) the vegan issue. Date: 08 Sep 1999 18:45:24 EDT Hey everyone, I know you might all still caste judgment on me but......... I live on ft myers beach fl, and moby is coming here Sept 14th. I have been a fan ever since his club days at the palladium (n.y.) where they shot club mtv...and the like. I am not a vegan, but am a member of PETA. I love red meat and can't think of my life without bar-b-que's, but at the same time I will not buy Gillette products because they use animal testing. Call me a hypocrite, but I love steak and eggs but can't stand animal abuse. I have 5 dogs, all rescued from the humane shelter, and still I eat what you people don't. I love leather, but I have thrown "blood" on fur wearers. Sorry for my double standards but I think everyone is different and beyond labels that society puts on us. To those that are vegans or even vegetarians, I am proud of you, but I will never become what you are... I just hope you can understand people like me. Come Sept 14th, I will be in my own personal heaven listening to Moby live... a first for me. Blake ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Clark Subject: (mobility) Moby as ambi Date: 08 Sep 1999 19:21:42 -0500 > - "Do you go with boys or girls?" > >Moby: "A little of both. I used to be pretty much >exclusively heterosexual, but it depends...I like people. >It's hard for me to generalise about what my favourite >colour is or what my favourite season is, so I can't >generalise about my favourite gender either." Bit of a surprise. I've spent a few hours with the Man-- not exactly my finest performance as an intelligent human being, either-- and got no queer vibes from him. And all previous interviews have calmly disclaimed any homosexualist experiences. I guess people change. The good thing is that Moby seems to have been quite successful with grrrlz. I think only certain men would find Moby sexy. En tout cas, by adding boyz to his repertoire, he *lives* the Woody Allen dictum that bisexualism doubles your chances of a date on a Saturday night. -- Joe Clark joeclark@theBRML.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 09 Sep 1999 15:22:01 +1200 Is there a second disk to BT's Ima? I have the Cd but it is only 1 disk. Where did I miss it? Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Moby's Guitar Date: 09 Sep 1999 15:30:06 +1200 Has anybody been to a concert recently where the legend himself has bought out his Guitar and played to the masses fine tunes like New Dawn Fades or Face It. Please tell me. Moby is coming to New Zealand and I'm so excited that I just can't hide it. Plus I didn't know there was a sequel for Hackers Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Guitar Date: 07 Sep 1999 23:02:12 -0500 I don't know if anyone else has noticed this... i'm assuming that someone has. Moby has an amp up on stage. Its a Marshall amp. But he has black tape over the ARS so it says M HALL a little pointless anecdote... but i found that rather amusing. ------rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raven" Subject: Re: (mobility) 1979 disco mix Date: 09 Sep 1999 01:00:22 -0400 > Does anyone have a tape,mp3,minidisk, ANYTHING that has a recording of the > 1979 remix disco mix? I talked to moby about it in st. louis and he told > me it was quite beautiful. I'm dying to hear this. I asked him about > plans to release it and he never gave me a straight answer. I remember a > rumor once that he was going to take all the pumpkins samples out of it > and just release it himself. Are you sure it was his remix? As far as I've ever heard there's only been the one....there were four remixes in general, but I don't remember who did the other three. Two were pretty club-friendly, and I still have at least one mp3'd if you want it. (I think it's the vocal mix). Let me know, preferably over private email... Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) nyu Date: 09 Sep 1999 02:04:03 EDT it;s my last semester at NYU and i truly thought i was leaving the place w/ nothing good to say...until tonight! i just came back from seeing moby at irving plaza and he gave a phenomenal performance as usual! he looked so cute in his fitting black jeans and white tank top. he played the usuals and also played revolver!!! and some cover song (not the james bond theme song)...sounded like metal. some highlights: ~he took a sip of his poland spring water and then handed it out to the audience ~he said we all looked sexy ~he played a country version of "feeling so real" which was actually quite good. ~right before that he was playing the guitar while telling a story: he said in 1994 he lived on 10 street and was in this bad relationship. and was also very depressed and miserable that time. but also started making disco songs. the only shitty thing was that i didnt get a chance to meet him after the show -no one usually does in nyc, unless youve got some vip pass - he's ususally at some after party. so that really sucked...i waited around for half an hour and no luck. but he'll be in nyc again sept 13 performing live for a tv show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) the vegan issue. wok Date: 09 Sep 1999 07:53:48 +0200 F*cking agree with this! except if PC means positive Christian...? [learn this by heart and then preach it] Chris Stepanek wrote: > > The way I look at it everyone makes personal descions in their life as to > how they choose to live it. Personally I choose not to drink, drug, smoke or > take medication. I was veggie for a long time and gradually began eating > meat again after some time and continue to eat meat every so often. The part > about evolution is true, the strong over-power the weak. That might not be > the most PC way to look at things but that is the way it is. Yes, we as > enlightened (resoning) beings, should be able to overcome this and use > compasion. Either way you look at it is just fine, we all think and should > reason for ourselves. > > I do have a problem with people preaching to me when they are hypocritical > in their own actions. Like those fools who stand outside fur stores and > throw blood on people walking out (fools too) while at the same time they > have on leather shoes and belts and are wearing clothes dyed with non-vegan > dyes and such. That I have a problem with. if you sit there and preach you > better know your facts. Preaching veggie/vegan ways while wearing/using > animal products is a bit wrong. > > I choose not to drink or drug or smoke or take some medications. I wear > clothes that I know (at least try to) about the dyes used the processes used > in making them. I eat meat, but don't go around preaching one should not or > should. > > I come from the Straight-Edge Vegan hardcore scene of Syracuse, NY (militant > vegans among militant vegans (back in the day) for those who know hardcore). > I knew many people who became vegan on a whim and are still paying for it > today with their health. Thinking salad with Bacos is vegan and you can live > on tha with vitiamin supplements is wrong. A vegan diet is a very serious > thing, you should know what you are doing when you go on it and should ease > into it gradually. i have seen to many people hurt themselves with their own > ignorance. Even a vegitarian diet can be harmful if done wrong. DOn't stop > eating meat and just eat beams and junk food and such, not eating meat > reducs protein and to replace that you need to compensate with extra amounts > of protein rich veggies. > > As far as Veganism being more compasionate and better on the planet I am not > sold on that 100%. Man-kind is a plague on this planet and every planet/land > we touch and will touch. As our nature we destroy all we touch, mankind that > is. I think industrial pollution is a bigger problem than agricultural > polution. Granted land use with crops as opposed to cattle is more > efficient, but farmers will still farm with hormones and chemicals and until > we as a world farm 100% organic the problem is still there. > > Do i have an answer to these problems? Nope. Nor do i claim to. I just want > to point out a few mis-conceptons of this current ultra-PC attitude that > especially American society has. > > One major step that would help however is population control. That brings up > a whole bunch of personal freedom issues though. the answer is is to have > people realize that not everyone needs 2.5 kids. How to do that is another > question. > > - > chris.stepanek / sr.designer / nny / cstepanek@nny.com / ICQ25163388 > - > -- --------------- "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: "why so many?" --was-- Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! Date: 09 Sep 1999 07:33:25 +0200 SiD wrote: > > Oh please. I've been hearing this trend argument forever. Even if it > is "TRENDY" that doesn't mean you can discount it. If Moby got really > popular (as is bound to happen) and it was "TRENDY" to like him would > you stop? true, very true > Not eating animals is simple. It doesn't take time to work around, it's > something you can do easily just about anywhere on the globe and I think > we're all smart enough to realize that taking the live of another being > pointlessly is just selfish. I just don't see how anything else can be > said (unless we brought in the environmental, social & health benefits > to eating lower on the social chain). total nonsense/ just look at Nature. Everything is eating everything, Nature isnt acting like Justice, forget it, the whole idea of veganism is humans pretending to be god and better the world, while Timoreze are shot like cockroaches, you pretend to be better? Better than Human? humans cant rise above nature, although they try hard... hahaha! Fuck Hu, man! > You're welcome to your opinion, but of course it's wrong. :) > SiD > > -- > SiD sid@vicious.com http://www.urinine.com/~sid/ > > "Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not > scratch. Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life > is that?" -Pavement cool, and IF they build, than what? -- --------------- "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: "why so many?" --was-- Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! Date: 09 Sep 1999 13:59:58 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) I think it's impossible to be a total vegan, i.e totally free from dealing with animal products. You are killing some microscopic life-form everyday. Amoebas are single-celled animals - but, as a vegetarian myself, my sympathy would not extend to an amoeba as much as a dog or cat. The whole point of being vege for me is not trying to be God, but trying to ease animal cruelty and suffering as much as I try to contribute to easing human cruelty and suffering by supporting human rights organisations like Amnesty International. It's only by doing nothing rather than something, that allows evil to grow. So the argument that there's no point in being a vege or human rights activist, because no matter what we do, we somehow contribute to the world's suffering, doesn't wash with me. It's all a bit defeatist - you have to start somewhere. It's better to buy a leather wallet (if there's no alternative) that lasts a lifetime, then buy meat everyday. If you don't have compassion for at least our mammal cousins, it's likely your compassion for our fellow humans, is limited also. Just because you're a vege/vegan doesn't mean you hate humans, though there are probably some who do - for other individual and personal reasons. TMB On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 07:33:25 +0200 but not _the_ frankz wrote: > SiD wrote: > > > > Oh please. I've been hearing this trend argument forever. Even if it > > is "TRENDY" that doesn't mean you can discount it. If Moby got really > > popular (as is bound to happen) and it was "TRENDY" to like him would > > you stop? > true, very true > > > Not eating animals is simple. It doesn't take time to work around, it's > > something you can do easily just about anywhere on the globe and I think > > we're all smart enough to realize that taking the live of another being > > pointlessly is just selfish. I just don't see how anything else can be > > said (unless we brought in the environmental, social & health benefits > > to eating lower on the social chain). > total nonsense/ > just look at Nature. Everything is eating everything, > Nature isnt acting like Justice, > forget it, the whole idea of veganism is humans pretending to be god > and better the world, while Timoreze are shot like cockroaches, you > pretend to be better? Better than Human? > humans cant rise above nature, although they try hard... hahaha! > > Fuck Hu, man! > > You're welcome to your opinion, but of course it's wrong. :) > > > SiD > > > > -- > > SiD sid@vicious.com http://www.urinine.com/~sid/ > > > > "Architecture students are like virgins with an itch they can not > > scratch. Never build a building til you're 50, what kind of life > > is that?" -Pavement > cool, and IF they build, than what? > -- > > --------------- > "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, > only music will live, > so music is the staff of life," > Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 > --------------- > > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby's Guitar Date: 09 Sep 1999 09:06:32 -0400 My favorite is when Brian from Catherine Wheel fucked up his amp so that it read "Arsholl". Hee hee! Joe -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 12:02 AM I don't know if anyone else has noticed this... i'm assuming that someone has. Moby has an amp up on stage. Its a Marshall amp. But he has black tape over the ARS so it says M HALL a little pointless anecdote... but i found that rather amusing. ------rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: "why so many?" --was-- Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! Date: 09 Sep 1999 08:19:33 -0500 well said, Tim...it's like if you're negotiating with a terrorist, and they say they're goin to release half of their hostages...you don't say "No, all or none, bucko" you take the half, and work on the rest...(not actually my metaphor, I stole it from the religious right, and used its power for good instead of evil) so, sure, you can't live your life without hurting other creatures, but you can choose to reduce the amount of harm where you can. I think that those who complain about people trying to better themselves by being a little nicer to the world we live in need to take a long hard look at their own lives...but that's just me...but I agree with what others have said that vegetarianism is a personal decision, and I have no tolerance for those who try to impose thier views about anything on anyone else... Daniel > I think it's impossible to be a total vegan, i.e totally > free from dealing with animal products. You are killing > some microscopic life-form everyday. Amoebas are > single-celled animals - but, as a vegetarian myself, my > sympathy would not extend to an amoeba as much as a dog or > cat. The whole point of being vege for me is not trying to > be God, but trying to ease animal cruelty and suffering as > much as I try to contribute to easing human cruelty and > suffering by supporting human rights organisations like > Amnesty International. It's only by doing nothing rather > than something, that allows evil to grow. So the argument > that there's no point in being a vege or human rights > activist, because no matter what we do, we somehow > contribute to the world's suffering, doesn't wash with me. > It's all a bit defeatist - you have to start somewhere. > It's better to buy a leather wallet (if there's no > alternative) that lasts a lifetime, then buy meat everyday. > > If you don't have compassion for at least our mammal > cousins, it's likely your compassion for our fellow humans, > is limited also. Just because you're a vege/vegan doesn't > mean you hate humans, though there are probably some who do > - for other individual and personal reasons. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: "why so many?" --was-- Re: (mobility) Love meat!!!! Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:33:03 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Definitely. The only way forward is by respecting others choices, and then they might begin to respect yours. Of course, I have no tolerance for fascism or any other form of mind control and dictatorship - which is probably wrong in itself....actually, no it's not - we're only human and it's sometimes necessary to have intolerance of something as intolerant and evil as that. I think, these days, Moby holds a balanced view on all these issues, which is why so many respect him...I think. Right that's enough of the moral highground babbling from me. Ciao, TMB. .but I agree with what others have > said that vegetarianism is a personal decision, and I have no tolerance for > those who try to impose thier views about anything on anyone else... > > Daniel ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cstepanek@nny.com (Chris Stepanek) Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) the vegan issue. wok Date: 09 Sep 1999 10:21:28 -0500 TO: No I did not ,and never will, intend for PC to = Positive Christian. I used PC in terms of Politically Correct (aka: mainstream media). But in the end both are fairly destructive.* *NOTE: I am not coming down on all you christians. Rather religious faith in general. This is my view and I expect many to not agree. Religious faith can be a very dangerous thing. I am agnostic therefore I do not deny the possibility of a supernatural force/power, but I do deny taking a "book" as face value and killing others in it's defense. 98% of ALL wars in the history of man-kind have been over religion and what a certian god (power)'s name is in their specific book. But faith, however you define it (and practice it) can be wonderful thing on a one to one basis. How i define my faith is a personal thing, probably everyone of us deines it differently. I guess by saying that then all those wars are justified, oh well life is far to complex to make it black and white. I guess I am just coming down on blind and mindless following again. That is what I see as destructive. - chris.stepanek / sr.designer / nny / cstepanek@nny.com / ICQ25163388 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) forget the Vegans, what about war & religion?? 98%? BS! Date: 09 Sep 1999 11:09:00 -0400 Kees Wrote: >98% of ALL wars in the >history of man-kind have been over religion OK, I always hear this STAT. May I see the formula used to determine this 98% thing? I can name quite a few wars that didn't have to do with religion. Especially over the past 300 years. I just don't believe the stat so I would like you to prove it to me. If I can name TWO wars that had nothing to do with religion, then I expect you to list 98 wars that WERE over religion. - Jayson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: RE: (mobility) forget the Vegans, what about war & religion?? 98% Date: 09 Sep 1999 16:30:04 +0100 While we're at it, is this religion exclusively, or religion used as a hook for coveting status, wealth, people, lebenstraum, and all the rest? It seems that a lot of the time religion was used as a convenient tag to hang the above on. Some exceptions, granted, but even the crusades had an element of giving the younger sons of nobility something to do. Much Love, Ian -----Original Message----- Sent: 09 September 1999 16:09 BS! Kees Wrote: >98% of ALL wars in the >history of man-kind have been over religion OK, I always hear this STAT. May I see the formula used to determine this 98% thing? I can name quite a few wars that didn't have to do with religion. Especially over the past 300 years. I just don't believe the stat so I would like you to prove it to me. If I can name TWO wars that had nothing to do with religion, then I expect you to list 98 wars that WERE over religion. - Jayson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) forget the Vegans, what about war & religion?? 98%? BS! Date: 09 Sep 1999 10:41:32 -0500 > While we're at it, is this religion exclusively, or religion used as a hook > for coveting status, wealth, people, lebenstraum, and all the rest? It seems > that a lot of the time religion was used as a convenient tag to hang the > above on. Some exceptions, granted, but even the crusades had an element of > giving the younger sons of nobility something to do. > I agree with you there, definitely...I think the majority if not all of religious oriented wars religion was simply used as a hook to motivate the soldiers to fight in wars that were actually motivated by politics, greed, etc. religion is a tool used by the selfish to control the masses... Daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Guitar Date: 09 Sep 1999 8:57:32 -0700 >I don't know if anyone else has noticed this=2E=2E=2E i'm assuming that so= meone has=2E >Moby has an amp up on stage=2E Its a Marshall amp=2E But he has black tape ove= r >the ARS so it says M HALL That's funny! I'll look for that next time=2E In a similar vein, I remember=20= seeing=20= Sparks one time and Ron Mael had changed the ROLAND logo on his=20= keyboard to say RONALD=2E Deemo mp: Nara Leao ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) forget the Vegans, what about war & religion?? 98%? BS! Date: 09 Sep 1999 09:56:03 -0600 what i thought that meant was 98%of ALL wars. documented or not. tribal wars, the crusades, all the little european wars before it was europe, muslims, whatever. all those are wars too, and theres been thousands of them since man learned that he can kill. not just world war 2 and vietnam and all that modern crap. its just the nature of man to protect his beliefs with a ferocity like none other, and he will kill for it. P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/artists/46/prixfix.html goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 09 Sep 1999 09:20:16 -0700 Joe, i think Kimby means that there are two Blue Skies disks. I don't believe there are 2 Ima disks. plov -----Original Message----- >Is there a second disk to BT's Ima? >I have the Cd but it is only 1 disk. >Where did I miss it? > > > > > >Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: Re: (mobility) Pumpkins & Kareoke (sp?) Date: 09 Sep 1999 16:31:00 +0200 > Hey, how do I spell kareoke correctly? The original japanese word (as I look up in an online jap-eng) is karaoke. However, I've seen kareoke written in several places. -- Jonathan Ruano Pach Email: Homepage: http://www.encomix.es/~jonah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: (mobility) Moby on MTV Video(?) Awards Date: 09 Sep 1999 16:22:43 +0200 This noon I saw on MTV the announce of tonight MVA ceremony. They named Moby (among some other, of course) to perform(?), or at least, to be. There are some MVA tagged programs this afternoon, but start and ceremony is past midnight :) Talking Central European Time. -- Jonathan Ruano Pach Email: Homepage: http://www.encomix.es/~jonah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) forget the Vegans, what about war & religion? Date: 09 Sep 1999 12:41:00 -0400 OK, name at least 98 wars then that are waged because of religion. I don't care how significant they are. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:56 AM what i thought that meant was 98%of ALL wars. documented or not. tribal wars, the crusades, all the little european wars before it was europe, muslims, whatever. all those are wars too, and theres been thousands of them since man learned that he can kill. not just world war 2 and vietnam and all that modern crap. its just the nature of man to protect his beliefs with a ferocity like none other, and he will kill for it. P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/artists/46/prixfix.html goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 09 Sep 1999 12:43:00 -0400 I have "Ima" and it is a 2-disk album -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:20 AM Joe, i think Kimby means that there are two Blue Skies disks. I don't believe there are 2 Ima disks. plov -----Original Message----- >Is there a second disk to BT's Ima? >I have the Cd but it is only 1 disk. >Where did I miss it? > > > > > >Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason miklian" Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 09 Sep 1999 11:57:06 CDT Ima is normally a 2 CD set, but the second CD is just all of the songs from the first mixed together...like the EIW 2 cd set... >From: "Michaela Gerstner" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:20:16 -0700 > >Joe, i think Kimby means that there are two Blue Skies disks. I don't >believe there are 2 Ima disks. > >plov >-----Original Message----- >From: Joseph Parkes >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:24 PM >Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 > > > >Is there a second disk to BT's Ima? > >I have the Cd but it is only 1 disk. > >Where did I miss it? > > > > > > > > > > > >Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Davies, Andrew" Subject: (mobility) RE: mobility-digest V2 #121 Date: 09 Sep 1999 12:10:17 -0500 Hey Damian, what's up? The list sure is getting snooty and boring dont't you think? good thing this isn't a religion and vegan/vegitarian list...they'd only talk about moby! I wonder when this will stop? Andy NP: "Why Can't It Stop?" - Lopez <<-----ironic huh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cstepanek@nny.com (Chris Stepanek) Subject: (mobility) wars and religion Date: 09 Sep 1999 13:22:08 -0500 Jayson, Ok, name two wars that didn't start because of relgion? Or were religion wasn't the one of the underlying factors in that war. To clarify another points --- While we're at it, is this religion exclusively, or religion used as a hook for coveting status, wealth, people, lebenstraum, and all the rest? It seems that a lot of the time religion was used as a convenient tag to hang the above on. Some exceptions, granted, but even the crusades had an element of giving the younger sons of nobility something to do. --- - Yes, I meant relegion as the "tag" you described. --- I agree with you there, definitely...I think the majority if not all of religious oriented wars religion was simply used as a hook to motivate the soldiers to fight in wars that were actually motivated by politics, greed, etc. religion is a tool used by the selfish to control the masses... --- - Yes, agreed. Relgion is a very strong motivation even when greed and politics are the real causes. --- what i thought that meant was 98%of ALL wars. documented or not. tribal wars, the crusades, all the little european wars before it was europe, muslims, whatever. all those are wars too, and theres been thousands of them since man learned that he can kill. not just world war 2 and vietnam and all that modern crap. its just the nature of man to protect his beliefs with a ferocity like none other, and he will kill for it. --- - Yes, i meant ALL wars. Just as described here. - chris.stepanek / sr.designer / nny / cstepanek@nny.com / ICQ25163388 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Guitar Date: 09 Sep 1999 11:37:42 -0700 > >Has anybody been to a concert recently where the legend himself has bought > >out his Guitar and played to the masses fine tunes like New Dawn Fades or > >Face It. > I would love to hear him play "new dawn fades" en concert. *sigh* I don't think he played it at the show I went to from the "Iliketoscore" tour. Did he play it at any recent shows anyone's been to? If so, I'm so jealous. :-P > > > >Plus I didn't know there was a sequel for Hackers > I don't think there is. I almost sort of recently read an interview w/ Angelina Jollie and it wasn't mentioned also, you'd think they'd advertise it?! Does any one agree that there isn't a sequel? Really, the first movie was so terrible that they couldn't possibly. But it was one of those movies that was so bad it was good. :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: RE: (mobility) wars and religion Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:55:00 -0400 ok -- Desert Storm, Vietnam I can name more if you want ... Korea, WWI, WWII, US Civil War, US Revolution (technically we could also include all the battles within each of these wars since you will probably use many of the battles of the Crusades as a war in itself) All I'm saying is that it's more like 60% not 98% -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 1:22 PM Jayson, Ok, name two wars that didn't start because of relgion? Or were religion wasn't the one of the underlying factors in that war. To clarify another points --- While we're at it, is this religion exclusively, or religion used as a hook for coveting status, wealth, people, lebenstraum, and all the rest? It seems that a lot of the time religion was used as a convenient tag to hang the above on. Some exceptions, granted, but even the crusades had an element of giving the younger sons of nobility something to do. --- - Yes, I meant relegion as the "tag" you described. --- I agree with you there, definitely...I think the majority if not all of religious oriented wars religion was simply used as a hook to motivate the soldiers to fight in wars that were actually motivated by politics, greed, etc. religion is a tool used by the selfish to control the masses... --- - Yes, agreed. Relgion is a very strong motivation even when greed and politics are the real causes. --- what i thought that meant was 98%of ALL wars. documented or not. tribal wars, the crusades, all the little european wars before it was europe, muslims, whatever. all those are wars too, and theres been thousands of them since man learned that he can kill. not just world war 2 and vietnam and all that modern crap. its just the nature of man to protect his beliefs with a ferocity like none other, and he will kill for it. --- - Yes, i meant ALL wars. Just as described here. - chris.stepanek / sr.designer / nny / cstepanek@nny.com / ICQ25163388 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) ALL WARS ARE OVER RELIGION Date: 09 Sep 1999 14:56:58 PDT All physical wars are over religion. If you follow my definition of religion, (religion, I think, is basically something people make up, believe or follow to make themselves feel better or further their own goals).. I mean, for some money is a religion, for some extreme patriotism, for some sex for some fun for some power. I'm a Christian, but I don't like to be associated with that term.... I think true Christianity isn't a religion. It may be a religion when you begin to twist it to your own goals, or you lose its Truth or you begin to go against it. All wars are wrong, even World War II, etc because they kill, and, underneath it, are not for humanitarian reasons. If the US (which I live in), were really about the things it says it's for, it would have tried to save the Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, etc immediately as soon as they heard about the threat (or at least investigated it) instead of being jerks until the Pearl Harbor bombing when they struck back not to save the Nazi's targets, but to save themselves, and their economic, political stakes in the world. Everybody's a hypocrit to some extent, and religious to some extent. Please don't flame me these are my opinions and I don't want to offend or judge or anything. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) WAR SUX...MTV Awards Date: 09 Sep 1999 15:52:41 -0700 Hi there, NEWS FLASH: SUFFERING SUCKS, WAR IS WRONG, KILLING IS USELESS. PPL WILL CONTINUE TO BREED. Now on to other things. I probably won't get to see the Music Awards tonight but I'm hoping my mother in phx will tape it for me. I am looking forward to at some point seeing MOBY on the awards. What does "in house dj" mean any way? Does any one think he'll get real exposure, or is he there mainly to entertain the ppl who are physically going to be there? I'm lost on that one. AGAIN, WAR SUCKS....SUFFERING SUCKS. MORE LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU. *love*--kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Religion Date: 10 Sep 1999 11:28:02 +1200 Why do vegan/vegetarian, religion issues clog up this Mobility chat thingee? I think points made by Andrew Davies and Kimbalina are valid, no screw valid, important to the success or the meaning of this arrangement. 80% (maybe less by a little) of the emails we recieve are about these issues and not about the one person that brings us together. Don't get me wrong, these issues and beliefs are extremely important to a lot of people but you don't hear what I have to say about the All Blacks and the rugby World Cup. Believe me when I say that it is a religion on its own over here. I don't mean to offend anybody. Spot Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) WE ARE THE WORLD...WE ARE THE PPL Date: 09 Sep 1999 16:55:02 -0700 MOBY rocks! TECHNO makes ppl happy! But please, do read on..... > >Why do vegan/vegetarian, religion issues clog up this Mobility chat > >thingee? I think points made by Andrew Davies and Kimbalina are valid, no > >screw valid, important to the success or the meaning of this arrangement. > >80% (maybe less by a little) of the emails we recieve are about these > >issues and not about the one person that brings us together. Don't get me > >wrong, these issues and beliefs are extremely important to a lot of people > >but you don't hear what I have to say about the All Blacks and the rugby > >World Cup. Believe me when I say that it is a religion on its own over here. Amen bro. Like, I think it's interesting to discuss these things. Really, I'm all up for chat about stimulating subject matter but really, none of us are going to agree completely w/ the other. Personally, I found some of the emails to be very disturbing. Someone mentioned wearing leather but throwing blood on those who wear fur. I think that's just as bad as shooting a dr who preforms abortions when you have at some point had one. Really, this is all far too disturbing. It scares me that some one can judge when none of us have the right to do so. Look, I don't care what the f**k you eat for lunch or what you're wearing. I just want to be treated w/ respect and I want to do the same for you. If you don't like what I have to say, then so what? Is that supposed to disrupt my whole day? No. I agree that we all love MOBY. His music is, at times, quite a driving force in our lives. I'm thankful that ppl w/ such varied opinions can come together (mostly peacefully) to discuss the music that has brought us *all* REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE BELEVE such joy. Religion, eathing habits and war have been heavily discussed today. I would have to say that regardless of what you believe or what church you attend, if there ever has been a Jesus, that he would probably want us to put aside all of our hates and differences for the greater good of ourselves. We are humans and not perfect by any stretch. All we should ask of our selves and others is to love and to do unto others as we would have done to us. EVERYTHING pretty much falls under that heading. *sigh* Pardon my self righteous ass but man, I just had to spread the word and get it out. Man, I'm tired. Too much thinkin' goin' on. Let's all just hug and forget that we won't ever agree. We're different and that's what makes it cool. > > >I don't mean to offend anybody. I'm glad you don't want to crush toes but man, one thing, you'll never be able to help it. I personally don't give a wit about ppl being pissed at me for having a mind. I'm glad I have it. Many would do good by giving theirs some air. :-) --kimby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Feeling So Real Q. Date: 09 Sep 1999 17:02:47 PDT What is that sample from "Feeling So Real"? I think it says something-am-rocking.... It sounds Jamaican and goes together with the other samples, is this one guy? I've always thought it would be funny if Moby were to be in his studio... MOBY: "Hmm, I need a Jamaican guy for this track's opener... I'll go outside and grab somebody..." MOBY: "Here's five bucks, could you say 'Suck it up, dj?" That's all. Ummm.... I guess I've talked to off-topic recently... have I irked anyone? Please be honest. I don't want to come off as a jerk. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 10 Sep 1999 12:24:55 +1200 Moby is ledge no question about it. I think we all agree on that point. But other than Voodoo Child, can someone please tell me his other names so I could scope my pathetic small town record stores with the hope of finding something new and obscure. Also has anybody heard of a new BT album in the making, he has only done two, right? Cause that song from the Go sountrack Believer (or somin) and the Jackal song with Richard Butler ( by the way who is he) really kick some booty. I see there are a few BT fans out there in Moby land, probably cause they are pretty similar in my POV. Cheers Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) things Date: 09 Sep 1999 19:29:53 -0500 (CDT) 1. IMA by BT is both a one and two disk set. the second disk has mixes of "blue sky", well, the lame mixes of "blue sky" and a mix of a few regular album tracks by sasha. get the vinyl and play the paul van dyk mix of "blue sky"! 2. the rasta guy says (i think): "sound system rockin'! set it up dj!" 3. vegan, christian, homo/hetro, boy/girl, war, peace...we all DIE so quit yer bitchin' and listen to more moby and dance! you can't bitch and dance at the same time! 4. the MTV video music awards (what a fucking stupid name) are the definition of shit. read a book. the only good thing empty-vee has ever done is AMP, and they even managed to fuck THAT up by playing videos by ass monkey and the knobs and compleatly (almost) ignoring the most well know man in techno, moby. (and underworld, and orbital, and the orb, and brian eno etc etc...) 5. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOBY! [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai-photographer www.d.umn.edu/~zbentz/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: (mobility) moby now Date: 09 Sep 1999 21:32:32 -0400 well in the beginning i saw moby spinning honey at the vma. then later he was playing bodyrock. even a commercial for mtv had bodyrock playing. tho im wondering how much of the music that is actually being played in the opera house is actually being played by moby. oh well hope he gets to perform. eric ps, im so happy chris rock made fun of the backstreet boys! woo hoo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) Feeling So Real Q. Date: 09 Sep 1999 21:03:13 -0500 >What is that sample from "Feeling So Real"? > >I think it says something-am-rocking.... > Ha!@ I thought it said "Sound system's rockin'.." Moby fools the ear too much. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Clark Subject: (mobility) False antiveganist arguments Date: 09 Sep 1999 17:21:27 -0500 >I do have a problem with people preaching to me when they are hypocritical >in their own actions. Like those fools who stand outside fur stores and >throw blood on people walking out (fools too) while at the same time they >have on leather shoes and belts and are wearing clothes dyed with non-vegan >dyes and such. First of all, check the FBI files: There are no reported cases of activists blood-bombing or spray-painting individual fur-wearers *at all*. Stores, yes. People, no. Second, you assume that these activists bought their leather shoes after going veg or veeg. In reality, most of us own leather shoes from our carnivorous days. What are we supposed to do-- throw them out? Waste is also wrong, and the alleged symbolism of "still wearing the instruments of animal oppression" is meaningless. Existing shoes worn continuously by the same person do not result in the death or suffering of any other animal, or any new animal death or suffering at all. Third, it actually is impossible in the West to live a truly vegan life. The Jains in India come closest: Monks walk with facemasks and sweep insects out of their way. Leather shoes are sometimes a pragmatic limitation, as are nonvegan ingredients in, say, necessary medication. (If your choice is renal failure due to kidney stones or a drug that was tested on animals and contains animal-derived ingredients, even utilitarianism would excuse your taking the drug. Again, *pragmatic limitation*, not hypocrisy.) Fourth, you actually know nothing about these activists you dismiss en masse. >I choose not to drink or drug or smoke or take some medications. I wear >clothes that I know (at least try to) about the dyes used the processes used >in making them. I eat meat, but don't go around preaching one should not or >should. I do not proselytize either. However, I am not down on people who do. More power to them. All forms of social change should be at play here-- polite, obnoxious, direct, oblique. >I come from the Straight-Edge Vegan hardcore scene of Syracuse, NY (militant >vegans among militant vegans (back in the day) for those who know hardcore). Then you should probably join my Vegan-Straightedge mailing list: . >I knew many people who became vegan on a whim and are still paying for it >today with their health. Thinking salad with Bacos is vegan and you can live >on tha with vitiamin supplements is wrong. A vegan diet is a very serious >thing, you should know what you are doing when you go on it and should ease >into it gradually. In other words, learn to cook. If you were useless dans la cuisine as a carnivore, God help you when your ingredient palette contracts overnight. > DOn't stop eating meat and just eat beans and junk food and such, >not eating meat >reducs protein and to replace that you need to compensate with extra amounts >of protein-rich veggies. _Becoming Vegetarian_ by Melina et al. will tell you everything you need to know. Even _Laurel's Kitchen_ is OK. >As far as Veganism being more compasionate and better on the planet I am not >sold on that 100%. It can't be 100%! Even a significant decrease in animal cruelty is just that: Significant. ObMoby: When I interviewed him lo those many years ago, he had his own Edensoy in his hotel room. And a guitar. -- Joe Clark joeclark@theBRML.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) VMA Date: 09 Sep 1999 22:34:42 EDT its been on at my house for hours (my sister is a diehard backstreet freak). moby is wearing a funky gold shirt, i thought he was presenting but i haven't seen him yet. he's been tossing in the tunes at some points. and they've been actuallyu showing him on the tube. too bad probably 1/20 of the people actually know who he is. riz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Stop with the vegan already. Date: 10 Sep 1999 14:44:37 +1200 If you have or hold strong beliefs on Veganism please join Joe Clarks mailing list and not tell us about it on this one as it is designed for Moby, you remember him, the one everyone joined this mailing list for, as I said before, your points are extremely valid and I agree to almost evry 1 of them BUT the Same point does not need to be stressed until it becomes as blown up as racism. You guys remember that big issue. Over here in New Zealand there is alot of culture issues and I for one hate everysingle one of them. I do not consider myself as racist and I do not condone it for one second but it has come to the point where it is totally ridiculous and every thing you say is held under a microscope. If I call someone black, it is not because I hate them or judge them, it is because I am pointing out the most obvious thing I can think of. It is the same if I called someone 4 eyes. I have three very close Maori friends and I even went out with one. Oh my God, the shame of it all. ( sarcasm for those who are fuming) If someone called me a whitey or a Honky, I would clap and commend them on their 20/20 vision. I have no idea what goes on in America and the UK, only what I see on the TV or in Movies but if it is as heated as this Vegan issue has become than GOD help us all. I'm soooooo sorry for being a hypocrite about preaching beliefs I just got lost from the point I was trying to make which was talk about your Vegan beliefs on another mailing list while I go preach my Racism remarks on another one as well. If anyone is offended at this read it again and again until u see how silly u are. Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hytinic@aol.com Subject: (mobility) things I forgot to say to Moby... Date: 10 Sep 1999 02:34:16 EDT Mobyfans... And hopefully Moby himself... Last Saturday in St. Louis, I had the pleasure of seeing my first Moby show. I can honestly say it was the best musical experience of my life. I've been into Moby since just about the beginning of his career (at least the recorded stage of his career =), so I've spent the last 9 years or so listening to him create some of the best music I've heard. I had no idea how incredible he could be live, though. If you ever get the chance to see Moby play live, don't miss out on the opportunity. I drove 5 hours each way to get to the show, stood in line for about an hour, got packed into the club like a sardine, then ended up paying $100 for a hotel room (beggars can't be choosers) for the night... And there's no doubt I'd do it all again for the chance to see Moby play live again. So, on to the things I forgot to say to Moby... You see, there were tons of people around, and I was kinda nervous too (imagine - a 28 yr. old guy being nervous meeting a musician just a few years older than himself... I felt like a schoolgirl meeting Ricky Martin... ;o). I wanted to tell Moby two things... First, THANK YOU for all of the beautiful music you have made throughout the years. Inspirational songs like "Hymn (This Is My Dream)", happy-feel-good-songs like "Feeling So Real", and even somber songs like "When It's Cold..." have made my life a bit more bearable. The highest compliment I feel I can give is to say that I treasure your music, and feel my life would be a little less of a better place without it. Secondly, THANK YOU for influencing me into becoming a vegetarian. I know, some of you might think it's lame to let a popular figure influence you into something, but I kind of don't see it like that. Moby's facts / essay in "Everything Is Wrong" brought things to my attention that I had no idea of. And most importantly, it got me thinking. Thinking that maybe I didn't need to eat like I had been eating. So, thanks to Moby's "influence," I have now not eaten any flesh in over four years. In this time, I have become a much more compassionate and sensitive person, and I have a higher form of respect for all forms of life. So, I THANK YOU, Moby. Thanks for the great show, for taking a picture with me (I was the guy in St. Louis in the Earth Crisis t-shirt), and for the positive influences you've had on my life. Thanks for EVERYTHING!! (no pun intended ;o) - Chip in Memphis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Blackwell Subject: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 05:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Hello, I am going to _attempt_ to goto the moby show tonight at The Nation, it is supposdly 19+, but we'll see what I can do, is anyone else from this list going to the show, if show maybe we could all hang out... does anyone have any good tips for meeting moby, i plan on showing up early and haning around his bus. Thanks, -Dan _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patch24601@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:24:16 EDT I had originally planned to go tonight but couldn't find too much info on it. When do doors open? -Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Debbie Lengyel" Subject: (mobility) Moby Soda Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:29:23 -0400 Just picked up a bottle of Lime Jones Soda and was pleasantly surprised to see the "Play" cover art on the front of the bottle. (They have a marketing gimmick that if you send them a photo and they like it, they'll put it on the label.) Anyway, it's great to see Moby market infiltration. In case you want to know more about the product their web address is http://www.bugjuice.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebekah767@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:26:58 EDT I plan on going out to the show at Nation tonight. I'm just a bit confused on some things. For those of you that live around here, you know that Nation always has STING (formerly the infamous BUZZ) on Friday nights. Is Moby spinning at STING or is it his own show? Also, I couldn't find a price anywhere! How much is it to get it? The Nation website said it starts at 10 - what time are you getting there? I just joined this email list yesterday - so, this makes for a pretty good start! Rebekah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: RE: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:29:10 -0400 I think sometime around 10pm. Boom Boom Satellites are on at 11:15 and Moby is on at 1:30. It will be a great show, I can't WAIT!!! :-) I'll probably be wearing my green Orbital t-shirt. See ya there! Joe -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:24 AM I had originally planned to go tonight but couldn't find too much info on it. When do doors open? -Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) Feeling So Real Q. Date: 10 Sep 1999 09:49:57 -0500 What is that sample from "Feeling So Real"? I think it says something-am-rocking.... It sounds Jamaican and goes together with the other samples, is this one guy? > I think this funny. I always hear Hulk Hogan or whatever that wrestler dudes name is that is in the Slim Jim commercial - so yeah...the sample is - Snap into a Slim Jim. But probably not. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rebekah767@aol.com Subject: (mobility) never easy being the new kid... Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:55:31 EDT Since I just joined, I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Rebekah. I'm 21. I live just outside DC. I'm in my 4th year of college (psychology-but don't give me any shit for it) at UMCP. I have been listening to Moby for a long time. I have a lot of his stuff, but EVERYTHING IS WRONG is definitely my favorite. I could listen to it all day and never get bored. I love playing it for people who have never heard of Moby before (and there's a lot of them). I used to go to clubs a lot (5-6 nights a week) and all we would listen to in the car was Moby. It was practically our theme. That was a couple of years ago, and even though I've outgrown my wild phase (somewhat), I still love Moby. I know everyone says it, but I really love his ability to do all kinds of different music and make it all gold. I also like BT, The Crystal Method, Robert Miles, Portishead, and, well, I could go on all day... So, that's about it, Rebekah /"We all start out as strangers, Ted. It's where we end up that counts..."// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PuffDanny2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 11:51:49 EDT Me and a couple of my friends are going to the DC show tonite. Does anyone know if it would be easier to meet moby before or after the show? I'll be wearing a hawaiian shirt with little fluffy clouds on it. :) Say hi if you see me. -Danny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: RE: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 12:21:42 -0400 I am pretty sure that Moby is doing press and promo stuff before the show. I would think that afterwards would be better. But in Chicago he also said to show up at soundcheck (about 6pm) and try to say hi then, too. Joe -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 11:52 AM Me and a couple of my friends are going to the DC show tonite. Does anyone know if it would be easier to meet moby before or after the show? I'll be wearing a hawaiian shirt with little fluffy clouds on it. :) Say hi if you see me. -Danny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: RE: (mobility) DC & Chicago Date: 10 Sep 1999 10:14:09 PDT >From: "Novotny, Joe" >But in Chicago he also said to show up at soundcheck (about 6pm) and >try >to say hi then, too. Joe Joe, I was standing right behind you! Did you see a soaked dude with tan workboots and a long ponytail? White Moby shirt and a black backpack? That was me. I was the one pacing and smoking. (restless pacing, not anxious) Were you the big guy w/ the black shirt on who did most of the talking? I heard you mentioning that you saw him in DC, and him saying there's a possible live album upcoming, and some other stuff. As I recall, you must've left right after talking to Moby cause you weren't there after I talked to him. Coolio! Steve > >-----Original Message----- >From: PuffDanny2@aol.com [mailto:PuffDanny2@aol.com] >Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 11:52 AM >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) > > >Me and a couple of my friends are going to the DC show tonite. Does anyone >know if it would be easier to meet moby before or after the show? I'll be >wearing a hawaiian shirt with little fluffy clouds on it. :) Say hi if you >see me. >-Danny > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Linn" Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 13:15:58 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01BEFB8E.9F485C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here's the info i got from the sting mailing list on tonight's show: Tickets for this night are $18 and are available in advance from all=20 ticketmaster locations. There will be a separate line for advance ticket holders at a brand=20 new side entrance. Look outside for signs directing you to the=20 correct line. Main Room: 11:15-12:00 Boom Boom Satellites *performing live* (Sony, Tokyo) 12:00-1:30 Lieven (Musicnow, DC) 1:30-3:00 Moby *performing live* (V2 Records, NY) 3:00-4:30 Bad Boy Bill (Release Party for "Bangin the=20 Box Volume 4" on Mix Connection) 4:30-6:00 Ty T. (Stellar, DC) **just added** Front Room: 10:00-1:00 John Tab (Buzz, DC) 1:00-3:00 Aphrodite ((Urban Takeover/V2/Aphrodite Recordings, UK) 3:00-5:00 Buster (Snowball Collective, DC) Patio: 11:00-12:00 Death in Vegas listening party 12:00-4:00 Lovegrove (Sonic Soul, Baltimore) Death in Vegas giveaways for 200 people courtesy of Time Bomb Records. Bad Boy Bill giveaways courtesy of Mix Connection. -----Original Message----- From: Rebekah767@aol.com To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:28 AM Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) =20 =20 I plan on going out to the show at Nation tonight. I'm just a bit = confused=20 on some things. For those of you that live around here, you know = that Nation=20 always has STING (formerly the infamous BUZZ) on Friday nights. Is = Moby=20 spinning at STING or is it his own show? Also, I couldn't find a = price=20 anywhere! How much is it to get it? The Nation website said it = starts at 10=20 - what time are you getting there? I just joined this email list yesterday - so, this makes for a = pretty good=20 start! Rebekah ------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01BEFB8E.9F485C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
here's the = info i got=20 from the sting mailing list on tonight's show:
 
<THIS WEEK: SEPT. 10, 1999>

Tickets for this night are = $18 and=20 are available in advance from all
ticketmaster locations.
There = will be a=20 separate line for advance ticket holders at a brand
new side = entrance. =20 Look outside for signs directing you to the
correct = line.

Main=20 Room:

11:15-12:00 Boom Boom Satellites *performing live* (Sony,=20 Tokyo)
12:00-1:30 Lieven (Musicnow, DC)
1:30-3:00 Moby *performing = live*=20 (V2 Records, NY)
3:00-4:30 Bad Boy Bill (Release Party for = "Bangin the=20
Box Volume 4" on Mix Connection)
4:30-6:00 Ty T. (Stellar, = DC)=20 **just added**

Front Room:

10:00-1:00 John Tab (Buzz,=20 DC)
1:00-3:00 Aphrodite ((Urban Takeover/V2/Aphrodite Recordings,=20 UK)
3:00-5:00 Buster (Snowball Collective,=20 DC)

Patio:

11:00-12:00 Death in Vegas listening=20 party
12:00-4:00 Lovegrove (Sonic Soul, Baltimore)

Death in = Vegas=20 giveaways for 200 people courtesy of Time Bomb Records.
Bad Boy Bill=20 giveaways courtesy of Mix Connection.


-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Rebekah767@aol.com = <Rebekah767@aol.com>
To: = mobility@lists.xmission.com=20 <mobility@lists.xmission.com>
Date:=20 Friday, September 10, 1999 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: = (mobility) DC=20 Show Tonight(Sting)

I plan on going out to the = show at=20 Nation tonight.  I'm just a bit confused
on some = things.  For=20 those of you that live around here, you know that Nation
always = has=20 STING (formerly the infamous BUZZ) on Friday nights.  Is Moby=20
spinning at STING or is it his own show?  Also, I couldn't = find a=20 price
anywhere!  How much is it to get it?  The Nation = website=20 said it starts at 10
- what time are you getting there?
I = just joined=20 this email list yesterday - so, this makes for a pretty good=20
start!
Rebekah
------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01BEFB8E.9F485C80-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg" Subject: RE: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 13:30:38 -0500 Here is the official lowdown on the D.C. show from the BUZZ crew on DC-Raves.. If you do plan on going tonight, keep in mind - it is going to be _packed_ - if you don't already have tickets I strongly suggest it. - there is an age-limit and they have really good door-nazis that will search your pockets for contraband (drugs, cameras, pencils, candy, etc.) I can probably answer any other questions, just write me at this address. anyone want to plan a mobility-netmeet? :) cheers, -schnippy +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sept. 10, 1999 Tickets for this night are $18 and are available in advance from all ticketmaster locations. There will be a separate line for advance ticket holders at a brand new side entrance. Look outside for signs directing you to the correct line. Main Room: 11:15-12:00 Boom Boom Satellites *performing live* (Sony, Tokyo) 12:00-1:30 Lieven (Musicnow, DC) 1:30-3:00 Moby *performing live* (V2 Records, NY) 3:00-4:30 Bad Boy Bill (Release Party for "Bangin the Box Volume 4" on Mix Connection) 4:30-6:00 Ty T. (Stellar, DC) **just added** Front Room: 10:00-1:00 John Tab (Buzz, DC) 1:00-3:00 Aphrodite ((Urban Takeover/V2/Aphrodite Recordings, UK) 3:00-5:00 Buster (Snowball Collective, DC) Patio: 11:00-12:00 Death in Vegas listening party 12:00-4:00 Lovegrove (Sonic Soul, Baltimore) Death in Vegas giveaways for 200 people courtesy of Time Bomb Records. Bad Boy Bill giveaways courtesy of Mix Connection. ********************************************************************* STING is 19 and over with valid state-issued photo ID. ********************************************************************* Sting Happens at Nation Every Friday Lighting by Supercal Regular admission $9 before 11 PM and $12 after 11 PM As always, drug use of ANY kind is NOT TOLERATED. talk2buzz@buzzdc.com Info line 202.554.1500 HOW TO GET TO STING at NATION: 1- Metro One block north of the Navy Yard stop on the Green line. (west end exit of the station) 2 - Driving Directions FROM BALTO, PHILLY, & POINTS NORTH OF DC: Follow 95 South to 295 South; follow 295 South; do not get off on NY Ave.; after passing NY Ave. exit, go approx. three miles on 295 South to Howard Rd exit; at bottom of Howard Rd exit ramp there will be a stoplight; take a right; go through the next light in the left lane; this puts you on South Capitol Street; go across the bridge and get in the right lane; follow right lane to light; right onto M Street SE; go one block; left onto Half Street SE; go one block; the club is on the left at L Street and Half Street SE. FROM RICHMOND & POINTS SOUTH OF DC: Take 95 North to 395 North to DC; follow 395 N to South Capitol Street exit; at the bottom of the exit ramp there will be a stop light; go through this light and the next light; get in the right hand lane; follow right hand lane to the top of the overpass (don't go under the overpass); the light at the top of the overpass is the corner of M St. SE and South Capitol St. (look for the KFC and the 7-Eleven on your right); take a left turn onto M St. and go one block; take a left onto Half Street SE and go one block to the corner of Half St. SE and L Street. The club is on your left. FROM NORTHWEST DC: Take 9th Street NW south towards the Mall; go through the 9th St. tunnel; get in the left hand lane; take exit onto 395 North; Take the South Capitol Street exit; (see from Richmond & points south above) FROM I-66: Take 66 East to 110 East (South) to 395 North. (see from Richmond & points south above) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > Patch24601@aol.com > Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 9:24 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) > > > I had originally planned to go tonight but couldn't find too much > info on it. > When do doors open? > -Jason > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JSoquet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) movie sounds remixed!!!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 13:46:32 EDT Hello, SUn here found some info on a movie soundtrack that moby does a remix for here it is SPLENDOR On September 14, we will be releasing the soundtrack to the upcoming Greg Araki film "Splendor." The soundtrack features rare and hard to find tracks by Fatboy Slim, Air (remixed by Moog Cookbook), Blur (remixed by Moby), and Everything But The Girl. "Splendor" opens September 17 in New York, and will open in select cities nationwide starting September 24. Drop by the brand new Splendor website to listen to a few tracks, find out more about the movie and check for premieres opening near you. Well I just wanted to share that with since everyone was talking about war/Vegan/ and stuff like that. Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against those people expressing they're opinions but wow that was a long continuing topic. why don't we start again on the sell out topic again too. jk. I'm a happy guy. I have some picts of moby spinning at MN like in May and i don't know where to put them up or send them too so if you could help me out that would be cool, because I want to share with all of you. ok I'm outtie 500 PLUR. -SUn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Feeling So Real Q. Date: 10 Sep 1999 11:19:23 -0700 > > >I think it says something-am-rocking.... > I don't know but I remember hearing "set it up dj" like some one else said. I can't remember the rest. I've had my ETW cd stolen twice by cute gay club-er friends. (why?) I haven't bought a new copy yet, so I can't listen to it. I'm depressed. Why does that always happen to me? > > >It sounds Jamaican and goes together with the other samples, is this one > >guy? > Yeah, it sounds very Jamaican. Maybe there's something on the net about it. I'd just search for something. Who knows. > > > I think this funny. I always hear Hulk Hogan or whatever that wrestler > >dudes name is that is in the Slim Jim commercial - so yeah...the sample is > >- Snap into a Slim Jim. > My god! I am so offended! That's Macho Man Randy Savage you're talking about!!! He's so not Hulk Hogan who is, strangly enough, back to being the Good Hulkster. Weird. But that's kinda unrelated. I never noticed that "Snap into a slim jim" sample myself. Is that what's being said? --kimby > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) September 11th, 1999 Date: 10 Sep 1999 20:16:50 +0200 HAPPY Beardday! MOBY!!! (when is your next album coming out?) Kaaaaaaaaah -- --------------- "when i even shot Fisherman in the sky, only music will live, so music is the staff of life," Lee 'S' Perry, Maritime Hall (SF) 1996 --------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) Re: things Date: 10 Sep 1999 15:11:37 -0400 xaq - you fucking rock!!!! jeff >3. vegan, christian, homo/hetro, boy/girl, war, peace...we all DIE so > quit yer bitchin' and listen to more moby and dance! you can't bitch and > dance at the same time! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) MOBY, Dancin' and Bitchin' Date: 10 Sep 1999 13:28:18 -0700 > > >3. vegan, christian, homo/hetro, boy/girl, war, peace...we all DIE so > > quit yer bitchin' and listen to more moby and dance! you can't bitch and > > dance at the same time! I don't know, I have bitchin' and dancin' down to an exact art, but then again, I'm female. :-) I should show you sometime. But in other news, I didn't see all of the awards last night, did MOBY win anything? Did he present? Any major milestones in MOBY consciousness? --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patch24601@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) DC Show Tonight(Sting) Date: 10 Sep 1999 16:25:55 EDT If it starts at ten, I'll be there. I had a feeling it was a 7-ish thing, it takes me a good while to get to DC. I got on the nation website and they had no info about any of the shows for september, like it wasn't an updated page. Hope to see many of you tonight. -Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) movie sounds remixed!!!! Date: 10 Sep 1999 22:56:51 +0200 SUn wrote: >On September 14, we will be releasing the soundtrack to the upcoming Greg >Araki film "Splendor." The soundtrack features rare and hard to find >tracks by Fatboy Slim, Air (remixed by Moog Cookbook), Blur (remixed by >Moby), and Everything But The Girl. The Air remix used to be quite rare, (it was originally released on some obscure pink 10" vinyl) but later they included it on the "All I Need" CD single. This is a GREAT remix! Kees wrote: >HAPPY Beardday! MOBY!!! What is a "Beardday"? a good day for your beard? just kidding.. :) >when is your next album coming out?) Play Remixed was due for the spring of 2000 I believe... I'm now watching some Eddie Murphy one man show... (I think it's called "Raw"..) Wow, I've never heard the word FUCK so many times in one evening... That guy is really funny! Bart (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby now Date: 10 Sep 1999 17:46:34 EDT TO BE HONEST...MOBY LOOKED VERY CORNEY AT THE AWARDS...IT REALLY DID NOT SEEM LIKE HE WAS DOING ANYTHING IMPORTANT...you know...he seemed to be very much underappreciated to me by the people and MTV last nite....oh well....take care....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grim Reality Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY, Dancin' and Bitchin' Date: 10 Sep 1999 14:47:10 -0700 kimbalina wrote: > > > > >3. vegan, christian, homo/hetro, boy/girl, war, peace...we all DIE so > > > quit yer bitchin' and listen to more moby and dance! you can't bitch and > > > dance at the same time! > > I don't know, I have bitchin' and dancin' down to an exact art, but then again, > I'm female. :-) I should show you sometime. hee hee...i should take you guys to a gothic club sometime.... fragment out, mary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) MOBY'S B-DAY Date: 10 Sep 1999 19:38:43 EDT just like to remind everyone that tomorrow is moby's bday! just in case any of you wanted to post a little bday message to him ; ) animal lib sara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby now Date: 10 Sep 1999 19:55:45 EDT I don't think Movy looked corny at all... but I was pissed that nobody even mentioned that it was him there right before they broke for commercials. It's like they said he would be there, and all you see is the gold jacket and little bits of 'bodyrock' 'honey ' and 'natural blues' so I was a little disappointed. Cree << TO BE HONEST...MOBY LOOKED VERY CORNEY AT THE AWARDS...IT REALLY DID NOT SEEM LIKE HE WAS DOING ANYTHING IMPORTANT...you know...he seemed to be very much underappreciated to me by the people and MTV last nite....oh well....take care....elie >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) moby on vma's Date: 10 Sep 1999 18:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Moby was looking quite the shiny gold pimp on the Video Music Awards wasn't he?? :) That was a very interesting outfit... How many times did he appear on camera? I was sporadically watching and caught him maybe twice very briefly. sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html ........................it takes to courage to enjoy it ...................the hardcore and the gentle .............a big time sensuality ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) great Date: 11 Sep 1999 02:14:53 +0100 moby is the greatest man alive I love him if he is gay I want his children I love him I want to see him on September the 22nd I am writing this after a bottle of goldschlingher (I think) I think moby should remix Apollo four forty and stealth sonic orchestra should remix wdmhfsb instead of atb or gorella? the SOS remix of manic street preachers is astounding ant the remix of slunk anansie is fabulous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) atb is shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 11 Sep 1999 02:21:51 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEFBFC.689E7CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the atb remix of "why does my heart feel so bad" is rubbish the gurella = remix is far better=20 does moby remix this song for his remix album of play I hope his remix album is mostly moby remixes and mixes as with the every thing is wrong mixed and remised also how ho you get the individual samples from the website of = bodyrock>> does anyone have them np apollo 440 - getting high on your own supply ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEFBFC.689E7CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the atb remix of "why does my heart feel so bad" is = rubbish=20 the gurella remix is far better
does moby remix this song for his remix album of=20 play
I hope his remix album is mostly moby remixes and=20 mixes
as with the every thing is wrong  mixed and=20 remised
 
also how ho you get the individual samples from the = website of=20 bodyrock>>
does anyone have them
 
np apollo 440 - getting high on your own=20 supply
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEFBFC.689E7CA0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) love peace and happiness Date: 11 Sep 1999 02:24:49 +0100 who hear thinks moby is a love god I am going to see moby on the 22nd of September how do I get to see him if u have any suggestions let me know ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) wdmhfsb Date: 11 Sep 1999 02:44:43 +0100 I have just danced the night away to the remixes of that song when r the remixes available in the UK I am in heaven let me die now things can not get better than this thankyou ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) 2 little things Date: 11 Sep 1999 01:21:02 -0400 Hi just wanted to say that there is a auction at ebay right now with a video compilation with Moby's Move video on it(http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=162364590) and someone has the Come on Baby double cd up with no bids so far http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=159235579 Also did anyone else get the thing from Moby's mangement (the mobymail@aol.com) that he is doing a Sessions at West 54th and that they are giving free tickest to it? I hope to see some of you there. Later Keith NP Depeche Mode - St. Jarna ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Public Service Annoucment! Date: 10 Sep 1999 22:36:09 -0700 The following message clearly demonstrates that writing to the list while heavily intoxicated may cause you to say weird and unfounded things about Pop Culture Icons. It may also cause you to to want to have children with cute little balding guys. Use caution when drinking Goldsshlogger or any other alchoholic substance. Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > >moby is the greatest man alive I love him if he is gay I want his children I > >love him I want to see him on September the 22nd > >I am writing this after a bottle of goldschlingher (I think) > See what I mean? Hey by the way, MOBY isn't gay? Well, it doesn't matter. I'd probably find him even more attractive. But if he's bi, more power to him. I agree that being bi totally ups your chances for finding love, or for having numerous one night stands. :-) I heartily recomend it! And hey, maybe as a birthday present to MOBY, we can all offer to have a one night stand w/ him and bear his children. Maybe start a comune and live in the forest and wear loin cloths, running around w/o shaving and bringing up children w/ names like Skye and Phoenix. So, wuddya say? --Personalized comedy relief by kimby-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) MOBY the love god Date: 10 Sep 1999 22:39:04 -0700 Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > >who hear thinks moby is a love god > >I am going to see moby on the 22nd of September how do I get to see him > >if u have any suggestions let me know Uh, are we to believe Geoffrey that you want to have wild sex w/ MOBY? Hey, great. I hope you do. If you guys have an orgy, call me. I'll bring the hot flavored oil and candle wax. So yeah, MOBY the kinky love god. I have to say that gold lamme sure sealed for me. I would way jump on that suit. So, any one agree? --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) wdmhfsb VIVA LA MOBY Date: 10 Sep 1999 22:41:42 -0700 I think we can see by this email that Geoff is totally s**t faced. All hale alchol! All hale! Viva la MOBY! Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > I have just danced the night away to the remixes of that song > when r the remixes available in the UK > I am in heaven > let me die now > things can not get better than this > > thankyou BTW: You're welcome...now how about a group hug? VIVA LA MOBY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orgnalfire@aol.com Subject: (mobility) MOBY'S B-DAY Date: 11 Sep 1999 10:24:53 EDT Happy birthday moby! your music is very inspiring and meaningful. your essays have made me realize the other side of many things. I hope that the best wishes are with you today! Jonathan Harris Fayetteville, NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tecknomonk@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Happy Birthday Moby!!!! Date: 11 Sep 1999 11:03:13 EDT ... !!!!!!!! [creating excitement] [singing loudly] Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to MOBY / RICHARD, Happy Birthday to you!!!! YAY!!!! [applause] [screaming] I LOVE YOU MOBY!!!! ;) [talking emotionally] THANK YOU for providing me brilliant music that i could use and fall in love with everyday of my life!!!! ... i just wish there was something i could give you in return that is better than what you've given me!! ... [breaking out in tears] :) Love, .. t i n a ...................................... .... t h s i e h @ u m i c h . e d u ................. .. t e c k n o m o n k @ a o l . c o m .................... .... m o b y @ r a v e w o r l d . n e t ............... .. m o b y @ s o n i c n e t m a i l . c o m .................... .... h t t p : / / d j c a k e . c j b . n e t ............. ............................................................................. "I don't think of myself as being right anymore... As I've gotten older I've become more tolerant and less arrogant." -- Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Blackwell Subject: (mobility) My moby experiance. Date: 11 Sep 1999 08:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Hello, Last nite I had my first moby experiance. It was excellent. I went to Nation(in DC) knowing that the show was 18+, doors opened at 10:00 and we were there like at 7:00...We hung around the gate and meet one other guy waiting for moby, and talked to some of the guys from boom boom satillites(they don't speak much english) and then saw moby's drummer, we explained our situation and he kindly offered to add us to the guest list. yea! then we go walking outside the club for a bit, and what do you know at about 9:00 I see moby walking down the street! I was so filled with joy I cannot express it in words. I ran up to him and introduced myself and we talked for a lil' bit. Then we snuck in through the gate on the other side of the club and got backstage and stayed there until we got kicked out onto the side dance floor. I must say I feel so blessed to have had this experiance, everything worked out well, except getting lost in DC when we left. Moby, if you happen to read this I thank you very much for being such a kind and understanding person. -Daniel Blackwell _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Silver Subject: (mobility) DC Set List Date: 11 Sep 1999 13:02:56 -0400 DC show was great, my only complaint was that it should have been a lot longer. I was so surprised when the encore came, I still though it was 3 or 4 songs off. Anyways, here is the set list(order may not be correct): Machete Go I Feel It(Next is the E) (LONG version, 7 or 8 minutes) James Bind Theme Porcelain Ah-Ah Song he said was unreleased, but was fun to play, never heard it Bring Back My Happiness Bodyrock Honey Feeling So Real Encore: Walk this Way Thousand I also thought the Boom Boom Satelites tore shit up, they were great! -Dan Silver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moooooooooooby! Date: 11 Sep 1999 14:01:25 EDT Happy Birthday Babah! Your music is beautiful. Have a great day! Cree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: (mobility) happy bday Date: 11 Sep 1999 12:39:50 -0600 totally love your music man. i saw you spin in denver, very moving. happy bday, may you have many more! P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/prixfix/ goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Vodra [Paradox]" Subject: (mobility) hello and DC show story Date: 11 Sep 1999 15:15:54 -0400 Hi there! My name's Paul Vodra, and I've been lurking in the xmission archives of this list for many months now. I'm 23 and live in Arlington, VA, right outside of DC. My Moby collection is pretty vast due to addiction to ordering rare items over the internet, so I won't bore you with the details of it. Instead, I'll tell you how my experience was last night at Moby's show at the Sting party at Nation. My three friends and I got there around 10:45, and immediately went back to the curtains and waited to get let in to the main room, which happened around 11:20 or so. We proceeded directly to the very front, which my friends were a bit wary about. But four other nice people turned and introduced themselves, and I really ended up hanging out with them when my friends decided we were much too close. The Boom Boom Satellites were all right. I picked up their CD used a few weeks ago to prepare, since I had so loved Faithless and Juno Reactor opening up for Moby the last time he was in DC. I still haven't really gotten into their disc, but the show was fun. We were all pretty stunned by how loud it was, but we were at the very front! Thank god for earplugs. I liked how they drew the curtains between the Satellites and Moby and let Lieven spin tunes. It made the usually agonizing wait between opening and main acts very pleasant. Moby finally took the stage and, of course, blew me away. He is such an energetic performer and such a nice and cute guy. Anyone on this list who hasn't had the pleasure of seeing Moby live should really make every effort to do so, you won't be disappointed. I really went the most nuts during the James Bond theme. I had just finished my last day of work at my crap ass job yesterday, and I really let out all my pent up frustration and joy at being free at that moment. But my high point of the evening was definitely Porcelain. By that point I'd gotten very friendly with one girl in the other group (who's name I bloody can't remember) and we were dancing up close to each other mostly because of everyone around us crushing together. But at that sexy Moby song we really got close and romantic and I just felt great. Afterwards we had nothing to write down each other's digits, so we made hasty arrangements to meet back at Sting next week for DJ Rap. I'm really wondering how I'm going to find one girl in that massive sea of raver girls, but I'll wear my Moby shirt and hope for the best. Thanks for reading/listening to my rant about the best night of a long time for me. Sorry it was so long-winded and scattered. I hope all the other Mobility members who went to last night's show had as great a time as I did. Oh yes, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOBY! Thanks for giving me such a present on your birthday. paul v n.p. Moby - Porcelain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) blur/moby official innfo Date: 11 Sep 1999 14:22:38 -0700 (PDT) from astralwerks: --- Astralwerks wrote: > SPLENDOR > http://www.astralwerks.com/splendor/ > On September 14, we will be releasing the > soundtrack to the upcoming Greg > Araki film "Splendor." The soundtrack features rare > and hard to find > tracks by Fatboy Slim, Air (remixed by Moog > Cookbook), Blur (remixed by > Moby), and Everything But The Girl. In addition, the > album features brand > new remixes of classic early 90s "shoegazer" tracks > commissioned > exclusively for this soundtrack. Those > tracks are: "Shine" by Slowdive (remixed by Locust), > "Chemistry Between Us" > by London Suede (remixed by Lionrock), "Mesmerise" > by Chapterhouse (remixed > by Mad Professor) and "Sweetness and Light" by Lush > (remixed by My Bloody > Valentine). "Splendor" opens September 17 in New > York, and will open in > select cities nationwide starting September 24. Drop > by the brand new > Splendor website to listen to a few tracks, find out > more about the movie > and check for premieres opening near you. CHECK THIS OUT!!!!! > FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON ISDN SHOW > http://www.astralwerks.com/fsol/fsolspace.html > It went away for a bit but it's back now. This > Astralwerks exclusive > webcast is from a never released recording to > promote the "Dead Cities" > album. when the hell is the new FSOL out!?!?!?!? what are these nutters doing!?!?!?! > > AMUSING LINK OF THE WEEK > http://www.superbad.com > if someone has any idea what this is, please let us > know... > > NEW RELEASE SCHEDULE > as of September 10, 1999 > all dates subject ot change > > September 14, 1999 > Air "Premiers Symptomes" > (a re-release of their early singles collection 2 > extra tracks) > Splendor > (soundtrack for the new Greg Araki movie)* > > September, 1999 > Basement Jaxx "Rendez-Vu" (XL/Astralwerks vinyl only > single) > > October 5, 1999 > The Chemical Brothers "Out of Control" > (w/Bernard Sumner on vocals + a Sasha remix) > > Upcoming in early 2000 > Air "The Virgin Suicides" (soundtrack to the Sophia > Coppolla movie) > Day One "Ordinary Man" (Melankolic/Astralwerks debut > record produced by > Mario C.) > Micronauts (Science/Astralwerks debut full-length) > Horace Andy (Melankolic/Astralwerks all new > material) > Stacey Pullen (Science/Astralwerks single) > Adam F (new full length album) > > yay. bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOBY! Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:28:02 EDT happy birthday moby! congats on "play"! thank you so much for making magical music. someone as special as you only deserves the best. hope to see u again very soon. thanx for being vegan and for everything u do for animals, human and nonhuman. animal lib, vegan power sara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) moby stuff Date: 11 Sep 1999 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT) hey dudes! that gold outfit moby wore at the VMAs was ROCK!!!!!! that was so cool. evn tho he appeares a total of 10en sec.s oh well! n BODYROCK was in a commercial "the rhythm of beeing young" uch!!!!!! so does that mean theyll actually PLAY moby on mtv!?!?!? the other great moment was when they did BEST BREAKTHRU VID and they played UNKLE and the EELS!!!!! yay!!!!! they didnt win but at least they mentioned them! and people cheered when they played them tooo!!!!! and my sister is also a teenybopper so she listens to all that crap so i had to tape it for her, so she has moby and UNKLE on tape! yay! right anyway i borrowed sum shit from SEBASTIAN and he gave me MARK FARINA MUSHROOM JAZZ 2 and on one track DJ MIGS "Sunday Night" it samples the breakbeat from "South Side"! so thats TWO songs ive heard in the past week or so that sample that beat! the other "Mom" by Mom from 1994, so both of these are like acid jazz type breaks, who would ever think from hearing south side that thats an acid jazz break!?!?! and he also gave me a mixtape, heres the tracklisting! (titles only listed) A:Fresh Lesson 6 All That Glitters The Weekend Starts Here Polyesterday 3 (Thats The Magic #) Never Got Arrested Hotwax River Bank Bright Light B:GBH Twist & Crawl Intro: Jah Live I Shot The Sherrif Brown Paper Bag Everytime Choose Your Jesus Song For Lindy Fire On Mt Sinai Projects Weather Experience of course the tape itself did not mix the tracklisting but the thing is over half the stuff on here or so is from mixtapes or cds i gave him to borrow! those of u who only joined MOBILITY in the last year 1/2 or so have no clue what this means, but 2wo trax here are from a trribute album we did a while ago, and i got a copy and i let him borrow it! crescent!!!! to the new members! YO!!!!! i love SIFL & OLLY~ right bye now! "thats when i reach for my chihuahua" Moby once when he posted to Mobility === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brett McSherry Subject: (mobility) Happy bday to you, happy bday to you... Date: 11 Sep 1999 18:38:07 -0400 This message goes out to moby to have a happy birthday, and to hope he has some good times for the day (and the year of course). His music has meant so much to me and to the rest of us that I felt I should at least say that. I was thrilled to see him live for the first time two weeks ago in Toronto, and would love to be able to do more than to say thanks, but it will have to do I guess. Just as long as he knows that I appreciate (as the rest of us here does) everything he has done with his natural given talent to write beautiful music. Thank You. Brett McSherry P.S. oh yeah, and Happy Birthday again! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NadaButNet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) the house that romijin-stamos built Date: 12 Sep 1999 01:05:05 EDT Moby was on House of Style, interviewed by Niki Taylor....he talks about his gold lame suit... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) Pets! Date: 12 Sep 1999 01:46:25 -0700 > Oh, dumb question for MOBY: do you belive in keeping pets? Do you think that's > unfair to the animals? I have a weebitta quote for ya regardin that query!: "VoodooChild: Do you feel that keeping pets is unethical? "MOBY: I think that pets and humans have evolved next to each other and it's hard to make blanket statements about them." I read that at sonicnet.com. Go there and search for Moby and you'll find 3 long chats with him and various people who happened to show up :) laura! -- Marge: Remember, Homer--men are from Mars and women are from Venus. Homer: Oh, sure! I get the planet with all the monsters! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Subject: Re: (mobility) VMA Date: 12 Sep 1999 02:00:01 -0700 > its been on at my house for hours (my sister is a diehard backstreet freak). > moby is wearing a funky gold shirt, i thought he was presenting but i haven't > seen him yet. he's been tossing in the tunes at some points. and they've > been actuallyu showing him on the tube. > > riz heehee, gotta love the gold lame! and the fact that they actually let him spin his own music. :) > too bad probably 1/20 of the people > actually know who he is. > well at least two more people know who he is, i watched the awards at my friends' house, and every time they showed him, it was "LOOK, IT'S MOBY!!!" :) laura! -- Marge: Remember, Homer - men are from Mars and women are from Venus. Homer: Oh, sure! I get the planet with all the monsters! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MartinC1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Movy and Eurythmics. Date: 12 Sep 1999 05:10:24 EDT Hi Everyone. I just heard this unconfirmed Rumour that Moby is going to open for Eurythmics in New York, later this year. For me this is brilliant news as I have always loved Eurythmics and thought Annie Lennox would have been brilliant if Moby had used her in some of his songs. Cheers Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) ashamed ;-) Date: 12 Sep 1999 14:52:14 +0100 I am so ashamed I mailed the list with my drunken ramblings about moby I had the mother of all hangovers the next day and only just had the courage to venture back on to the list to see if I was removed or worse sorry every Geoffrey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" Subject: (mobility) horrorscopes Date: 12 Sep 1999 09:34:19 -0700 well... according to this, i piss off everyone i come in contact with. yeap. thats true. and i *do* think most people are dickheads. so maybe there is something true about these horrorscopes. or not. i thought they were amusing. then again, i just woke up 20 minutes ago to check my email/ICQ messages. so don't mind me. -kelly > > Aquarius (Jan 23 - Feb 22) You have an inventive mind and are inclined > > to be progressive. You lie a great deal. You make the same mistakes > > repeatedly because you are stupid. Everyone thinks you are a jerk. > > > > Pieces (Feb 23 - Mar 22) You are a pioneer type and think most people > > are dickheads. You are quick to reprimand, impatient and full of advice. > > You do nothing but piss-off everyone you come in contact with. You are a > > prick. > > > > Aries (Mar 23 - Apr 22) You have a wild imagination and often think > > you are being followed by the FBI or CIA. You have minor influence > > on your friends and people resent you for flaunting your power. You lack > > confidence and are a general dipshit. > > > > Taurus (Apr 23 - May 22) You are practical and persistent. You have a > > dogged determination and work like hell. Most people think you are > > stubborn and bullheaded. You are nothing but a goddamed communist. > > > > Gemini (May 23 - June 22) You are a quick and intelligent thinker. > > People like you because you are bisexual. You are inclined to expect too > much > > for too little. This means you are a cheap bastard. Geminis are > > notorious for thriving on incest. > > > > Cancer (June 23 - July 22) You are sympathetic and understanding to > > other people's problems, which makes you a sucker. You are always > > putting things off. That is why you will always be on welfare and won't > > be worth a crap. Everyone in prison is a Cancer. > > > > Leo (July 23 - Aug 22) You consider yourself a born leader. Others > > think you are an idiot. Most Leos are bullies. You are vain and > > annot tolerate criticism. Your arrogance is disgusting. Leo people > > are thieving bastards. > > > > Virgo (Aug 23 - Sept 22) You are the logical type and hate disorder. > > Your shit-picking attitude is sickening to your friends and coworkers. > > You are cold and unemotional and often fall asleep while doing it. > > Virgos make good bus drivers and pimps. > > > > Libra (Sept 23 - Oct 22) You are the artistic type and have a difficult > > time dealing with reality. If you are a male you are probably queer. > > Chances for employment and monetary gain are nil. Most Libra women > > are whores. All Libras die of venereal disease. > > > > Scorpio (Oct 23 - Nov 22) You are the worst of the lot. You are shrewd > > in business and cannot be trusted. You shall achieve the pinnacle of > > success because of your total lack of ethics. You are the perfect > > son-of-a-bitch. Most Scorpios are murdered. > > > > Sagittarius (Nov 23 - Dec 22) You are optimistic and enthusiastic. > > You have a reckless tendency to rely on your luck since you have > > no talent. The majority of Sagittarians are drunks. You are a worthless > > piece of crap. > > > > Capricorn (Dec 23 - Jan 22) You are conservative and afraid of > > taking risks. You are basically a chickencrap. There has never > > been a Capricorn of any importance. You should kill yourself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KelBelle62@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby best dressed Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:08:25 EDT *****I was just got up, to early to say for myself, and MTV had on the ten best dressed for the mtv award show...I was quite suprided to see that Moby got # 10., they just showed a few seconds of him, and the other "bested dressed" celebrities., but still it was pretty neat******* ~~~Hapy Birthday Moby~~~ luv ya-- Kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike A7" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby now Date: 11 Sep 1999 22:15:06 -0400 Creestol@aol.com wrote: > I don't think Movy looked corny at all... but I was pissed that nobody even > mentioned that it was him there right before they broke for commercials. It's > like they said he would be there, and all you see is the gold jacket and > little bits of 'bodyrock' 'honey ' and 'natural blues' so I was a little > disappointed. I had thought he was gonna perform too so that was a bummer. BUT I thought it was funny as hell that he sat there all night spinning tunes off of "Play" so in other words the three hour show served as one big promotion for "Play", he more or less bought 3 hours of free promotion for his latest CD. It was about the only thing that sounded good on a night of shit act and performance after shit act and performance. MikeA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" Subject: my screwup (was Re: (mobility) horrorscopes) Date: 12 Sep 1999 18:48:07 -0700 i just realized i sent this to mobility instead of my friend michelle... sorry people... i *really* was half asleep. wow. i should stay away from my computer until noon from now on, me thinks. yet again, sorry! -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: my screwup (was Re: (mobility) horrorscopes) Date: 12 Sep 1999 17:08:23 -0600 dats ok. i just woke up when i read it and almost passed back out laughing... thanks };D> P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/prixfix/ goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) boom boom satellites (i'm sure i didn't spell it correctly) Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:14:29 -0400 hey!! i am sorry that i forgot to mention the BBS in my review of the pittsburgh show last week. three words: THEY FUCKING ROCK!!!! by the second song in the entire club was completely humming. my mate and i just looked at one another and said, "HOLY SHIT!!!!" jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) moby's bird-day Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:17:54 -0400 HEY, MOH-BEEEEE!!!!! have a wonderful birthday!!!! (i hope you read this!!) my birthday is on tuesday (14 sep.) is it me - or does anyone else know of a lot of people who were born in this week (the ides of september, approximately) ?????? anyway - thank you for all of your inspiration. (i'm the guy that gave you a thank-you note before your pittsburgh show last week!!!!) jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Creestol@aol.com Subject: (mobility) MTV Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:44:16 EDT Woohooo tonight on MTV, Moby was named as one of the ten best dressed at the MTV Music Awards... too bad they didn't give him any airtime!! Cree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: (mobility) (Mobility) I drempt of Moby recently..... Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:44:24 EDT Recently I drempt of Moby and I want to tell it to all the fellow Moby-heads around here to see if I'm odd or not........ I was stuck in a horrable traffic-jam late at night. Then a white car with MOBY in huge black letters on the back wind sheild came speeding down the lane to the side of me and I hurd a huge crash. I looked to see what happened and Moby stepped out of the car (unharmed), walked to my car, and looked at me. I got out of my car, and just jumped on him giving him the biggest hug I could. He asked if I could give him a ride and ofcourse I said yes and started crying. Right after that, traffic magicly cleared up and Moby was sitting in my backseat. I was turned around just histaricly crying and telling him how much I loved his show I saw in Detroit on the 31st. He directed me to a house I had never seen before and told me to come in. he led me to a bedroom with a huge canopy bed with red curtins draped all around it. he said thanks for the ride and gave me a big bear hug and a kiss on the cheek. Then he began to say something else.....But I woke up. Odd? ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) moby's bird-day Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:46:43 -0400 i wonder what moby's friends got him! speaking of the birthdays in sept, im a proud member as well. eric gold@netrox.net www.tonematrix.com > HEY, MOH-BEEEEE!!!!! > > have a wonderful birthday!!!! (i hope you read this!!) my birthday is on > tuesday (14 sep.) is it me - or does anyone else know of a lot of people > who were born in this week (the ides of september, approximately) ?????? > > anyway - thank you for all of your inspiration. (i'm the guy > that gave you > a thank-you note before your pittsburgh show last week!!!!) > > jeff > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hytinic@aol.com Subject: (mobility) School House Rocks! Date: 13 Sep 1999 00:09:57 EDT Hello all... Just wondering if the cut that Moby does on the album "School House Rocks!" is any good. And for that matter, if the whole CD itself is any good... Only thing I've hread off it is the Blind Melon track "Three Is The Magic Number." Columbia House has the CD for .99, and I thought it might be worth a tryout, but since I have all you reviewers out there, I figured I'd go ahead and ask before ordering it... =) Thanks for any input... - Chip ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raven" Subject: Re: (mobility) School House Rocks! Date: 13 Sep 1999 01:23:17 -0400 The Moby track is pretty good. It's kind of bouncy noisy techno with an almost punkabilly-ish guitar thing going on. If I remember correctly ;-) The rest of the CD is decent. There are some highlights, like 'Man or Astroman?' doing a surf rockish rendition of one of the songs. Most of the songs are alterna-rock or acoustic rock. I remember a rap track as well. If you ever watched Schoolhouse Rock, it's a cool CD to have--though not nearly as cool as Saturday Morning Cartoons' Greatest Hits on Bulletproof Records. If you ever get a chance to get that, do so...but anyway, for .99 I'd say why not? "I'm just a bill, yes I'm only a bill, and I'm sittin' here on Capitol Hill...." Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron the Falkner" Subject: (mobility) amp Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:39:04 +1200 who is m hall? -----Original Message----- Moby has an amp up on stage. Its a Marshall amp. But he has black tape overthe ARS so it says M HALL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) amp Date: 13 Sep 1999 04:27:16 -0500 > who is m hall? > Richard Melville Hall Daniel "How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?" > -----Original Message----- > Moby has an amp up on stage. Its a Marshall amp. But he has black > tape overthe ARS so it says M HALL > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoonA13@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Profile Date: 13 Sep 1999 12:40:51 EDT Adam 20 Moby albums; Play, Feeling so real remix, First heard while rollin' with friends ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: Re: (mobility) Movy and Eurythmics. Date: 13 Sep 1999 18:48:52 +0200 On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 05:10:24AM -0400, MartinC1@aol.com wrote: > I just heard this unconfirmed Rumour that Moby is going to open for > Eurythmics in New York, later this year. Thought Eurythmics split forever.. > For me this is brilliant news as I have always loved Eurythmics > and thought Annie Lennox would have been brilliant if Moby had > used her in some of his songs. Strange combination, but could be explosive... I bet more for a Moby remix of one of Mrs Lennox songs. -- Jonathan Ruano Pach Email: Homepage: http://www.encomix.es/~jonah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) DC Show/Interview Date: 13 Sep 1999 12:51:51 -0400 Hi All, Just wanted to chime in about the DC show...I have to say, it was one of the best shows I have ever seen Moby do. It was on the short side, but the band was tight and really rocked the place. I loved the James Bond Theme, the new song was great, and the whole show was VERY celebratory. My sister flew out from Chicago for the gig. Apparently Michael Stipe was at the gig, but I was backstage and didn't seem him anywhere. I actually got to interview Moby and was one of the very first people to wish him a happy birthday (it was 12:10 when I met with him). We did the interview on his tour bus. I will be posting it on my web page either today or tomorrow, along with a few photos from the concert. I will also have a live review in greater length. I have to say that sitting down with Moby and talking with him was one of the coolest things I have ever done. I have interviewed lots of musicians, but Moby is intelligent, articulate, charming, witty, and without a doubt one of the most gentle souls I have ever met. There are LOTS of interesting things in the interview. A few of the things he talked about: Woodstock The MTV Music Awards (at length) Living in a haunted house as a kid Potential books he might write Misogyny in today's music Axl Rose Thanks to Dave Linn for playing the videos for "Go" and "Run On" at Omega last night!!! :-) Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m_a_d_ f_l_o_w_r" Subject: (mobility) moby in dc on friday + the frat boys there Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:43:28 EDT okay let me just start this out saying that overall i had an incredible time at nation on friday night. this mail is however going to be packed with hateful things. if you are the guy i am talking about in this mail i wish evil things to happen to you; many evil things. i was not planning on going to this show because i did not want to drive in southeast and park my car who knows where. but i did want to see moby. the first time i saw him on 12 dec 97 at the 9:30 club was incredible. it was one of my favourite shows ever and was just a great night altogether. as i was saying i was not going to go, because the one time i'd been to the capitol ballroom (what nation used to be called) for BUZZ, i went in this huge group of people but one of the guys forgot his driver's license so we couldn't get in. it was a horrible neighbourhood. so up until friday night i had never been into the area. my friend karyn came down from NYC to see either moby or r.e.m. i told her i would go to moby if we found some other people to go. and we did. 4 girls total. headed to southeast d.c. the city paper said everything at nationa starts at 7 pm unless otherwise noted and since i had never actually been to sting i figured we should get there as soon as we could. karyn is three weeks short from being 19. what the hell? what is a 19+ show anyways? what can you do when you are 19 that you cannot do when you are 18? geez. okay. so we got there around 9:30 ish? i parked in one of the closest parking spaces to the club. the doors didn't open until 11 i think? so we waited and waited. when doors opened we shuffled through security, bought our tickets and then i had to go drop some stuff in my car and then came back. then voila...entre. jennifer was the only one of us who had ever been to sting. mimi, karyn and i had only heard about it. i'm guessing that i am one of the only kids on this list who is not into the rave scene. i guess i'm into the indie pop/indie rock scene if i had to be into any. moby is one of the few acts i would ever dance to. he just brings something very pure out in me that allows me to not get shaky about the thought of dancing around oodles of other people. wow, this mail is one long stream of conscience mess. sorry. i wanted to say that i called moby's mgt about getting karyn into the show and although they were very nice they said there would be no way for her to get in because it was club policy. but she got in anyways, i guess security was not that tight...cos i mean THREE WEEKS. okay. anyways so we explored. the patio was so nice when they first opened it up and we needed a break from dancing so sat down at one of the tables and watched everyone around us. we went back inside when they opened up the main room and then i went back to the side room where some of the best break dancing i had ever seen was taking place. god i wish i could break dance. there was only one girl break dancing though out of the lot. when it was closer to 1:30 [when moby was slated to go on] i went back into the main room and i kept dancing. i drank one coca cola and one water earlier in the night and i felt so sick but i didn't really want to spring $2.50? i think for another water or coke. so i kept dancing. i had made my way to about five rows from the front and i was dead center. when the curtains opened and moby started playing i was so into it. until a frat guy right behind me starts jumping into me jabbing his elbows into my back. and he tries using me to jump higher to get moby's attention. all the while he is yelling these ridiculous things that i cannot even hear. he continues to jump into me really hurting me and so i turn around and ask him to stop. this seems to excite him so he starts MOSHING. what the fuck? so he jumps into me again and i lose it and push him back a few times and start pummeling him and yell "JUST FUCKING STOP IT" or something evil that i would never yell. then he raises his fist at me. i turn around and look at moby who seems to be searching out for people to focus on and his eyes sweep past me. i was near tears during "feeling so real" and by that time the frat guy had calmed down a bit and was not moshing. after that there was a crush of people moving in a huge group and everyone sort of sways. i almost fainted. god. but the music was great. and that's all that matters. i still don't understand why there are people like that frat guy making a huge mess of a beautiful thing like the moby show. sure there are loud songs and it's okay to jump but when you hurt other people that just sucks. i mean if i step on a toe i say sorry. it's just the way i was raised. i don't know if it is alcohol or upbringing or what but that guy should rot for bringing other people down when they are up on cloud nine watching moby. back at the show on 12 dec 97 it was perfect. just a bunch of people who really wanted to be there and were content either dancing or just standing still and watching moby. i just want to say if you're reading this moby to please try and settle down these big macho types who come to yr shows and trample all the little people who actually came to see you perform and hear your music. did anyone tape the dc show btw? or the show on 12 dec 97? i have a good trade list but no moby. http://www.underworld.net/~madflowr/trade.html oh i don't pay for bootlegs or sell them. that's evil. oh and then i had to be at work by 8 a.m. i got back from dropping my friend karyn off at the bus station by 5:30 a.m. i got one hour of sleep because i feared if i got more then i would be even more tired than i already was. then i slept from 10 pm until 1 pm the next day. oh and moby that night at the 9:30 club on 12 dec 1997 you said that you would let me interview you and to get in touch with yr management and we'd set something up. well i got in touch with them and we set something up so i would call and we would do a phone interview and i called when they said i should call and no one was there. and i kept calling back in 30 min increments and nothing ever happened. so i was wondering if you could still do that interview you promised so long ago. if you can get in touch with me. thanks. evol, madflowr i'm sorry this is so long kids. i had a lot on my mind. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's bird-day Date: 13 Sep 1999 14:52:58 -0400 I'm a Sept birthday boy too. Today actually. Spending it reading bullshit Philosophy until the Dolphins come on. I love this school (that was in sarcastic font). Later. AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's bird-day Date: 13 Sep 1999 12:56:34 -0700 AJ Brustein wrote: > I'm a Sept birthday boy too. Today actually. Spending it reading > bullshit Philosophy until the Dolphins come on. I love this school (that > was in sarcastic font). Later. > AJ Happy bday! Sorry you're doing unfun things like reading Philosphy (if you don't like that). Best wishes and I hope things improve or improved! --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's bird-day Date: 13 Sep 1999 17:43:00 -0400 AJ Brustein wrote: > > I'm a Sept birthday boy too. Today actually. Spending it reading > bullshit Philosophy until the Dolphins come on. I love this school (that > was in sarcastic font). Later. > AJ Go dolphins!!!! and happy birthday dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mobyee@aol.com Subject: (mobility) assholes at shows Date: 13 Sep 1999 18:34:13 EDT that was really rude about those frat boys. i just hate guys like that...but at least it wasn't as rude and demeaning(sp?) as this guy at the detroit show. i was dead center and for the last 3 or 4 songs i had to hear a drunken bastard shouting out "you know you want to have sex with us" (his girlfriend actually went along with it) over and over again, saying it right to moby! how could someone be so disrespect when i go to a show i totally respect the artist i pay to see, and i would never say something so terrible like that. i hope that that guy gets a sever case of karma in return for saying that shit. ~e*E~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan Gossett" Subject: (mobility) win a moby guitar Date: 13 Sep 1999 15:58:54 PDT >Win a guitar signed by moby: > >http://www.launch.com/gateway/yoyodyne/moby/ "Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda, circa 1980) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) assholes at shows Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:47:39 -0700 Like do you guys go to any concerts..stuff like this you get used to. I been to woodstock 2 times, and it was a lot worse...and about a million festivals, and hardcore shows in nyc. Some frat guy yelling seems like nothing at all. Also, Moby tells his audiences he wishes he could have sex with everyone in the audience. Some people go to concerts just to have fun, and not necessarily totally care about the music. They have a right though to make out, yell, or whatever...I mean it's a concert that they payed to get into. You can't just assume everyone at a concertm ust want to listen to the artist, it's the environment a lot of times that it is enjoyable. Anyways, err...that's what I think...don't be so hard on people. Chris -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mobyee@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 3:34 PM that was really rude about those frat boys. i just hate guys like that...but at least it wasn't as rude and demeaning(sp?) as this guy at the detroit show. i was dead center and for the last 3 or 4 songs i had to hear a drunken bastard shouting out "you know you want to have sex with us" (his girlfriend actually went along with it) over and over again, saying it right to moby! how could someone be so disrespect when i go to a show i totally respect the artist i pay to see, and i would never say something so terrible like that. i hope that that guy gets a sever case of karma in return for saying that shit. ~e*E~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #125 Date: 13 Sep 1999 20:05:25 EDT hey folks, my friend managed to dub a live moby show of the radio. it was the boston set at the hatchshell i believe. anyways i was planning on mp3'ing. anyone got an ftp site where i could send it? or should i be cdr'ing it for everyone. :) riz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby at sessions, nyc Date: 13 Sep 1999 22:54:50 EDT i saw moby perform at sessions today and he was sooo great! he played "when it's cold i'd like to die" and "everytime u touch me" w/ the female vocalists who are on everything is wrong! how cool is that! sessions is like mtv unplugged so it was terribly hard to restrain myself from busting outta my seat and dancing. the highlight was when moby was talking to the audience and recognized me and talked into his mike. "hi" he says and waves and smiles at me and tells the audience "i met this young lady 2 yrs ago on the train and she was going to an antifur protest." h e says some more stuff about our encounter and says that good clean air has given him such a good memory. i was caught so off guard and was blushing the whole time... but i feel sooo sooo special ; ). the fact that moby remembers me and our conversation from 2 yrs ago is incredible and everytime i see him, he gives me a kiss on the cheek. i hope all of u get to experience meeting this wonderful man and hearing him perform. god, i luv the guy like you couldnt imagine. animal lib, vegan power sara ps- i cant stop smiling ear to ear... whatta day to remember. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at sessions, nyc Date: 13 Sep 1999 23:03:07 EDT ok..first of all, how were you able to get in to that show at Sessions and when is it going to air on television...i know it airs in NJ on channel 13 or 8....hope to hear from you soon...peace...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 14 Sep 1999 16:44:49 +1200 Isn't hard to get people into Moby? I have been trying this on all of my friends for a few years and only about four of them have converted. This is my interpretation of how Moby's musik affects us, so if you don't agree, well, express your opinions. Moby plays songs like Into the Blue and Everything is Wrong, and they give you this real hollow feeling inside. My Weakness, for example, I tried to get one of my friends into it but they said it was too gothical or churchish, to which I replied don't judge its feeling from the experience you are having at this moment eg drunk as fuck, and horny. but develop a whole new set of emotions. Like think of your most profound moment to date and play a Mony song and you'll see. Shining gives off the vibe that it is the song that you will hear if you reached the top of Mount Everest. His songs are not just pathetic money grabbing attempts like the Spice girls, or they are not just songs that you are supposed to dance to like other Rave tunes, These songs that he plays affect everyones mentalities, They get into your heart and like a drug, pot, E, etc they enhance the moment. Has any one seen the Film Powder if so you'll know what I mean by the following. when Powder puts a hand on the Dying deer's neck and then grabs the Hunter's hand. The feeling that goes through him, the BOOM and then shock, then Oh my god what have I done , Then Powder Lets the Deer drift off to sleep. It's an immensley powerful moment even if you hate the film. I just thought of Powder as Moby and Maybe he is. In fact it scares me how similar the character Powder and Moby really are. Small Bald White boys who have feelings far from the typical headless sheep that resemble Frat boys( or rugbyheads in New Zealand) The deep spiritual feeling that we get from his musik. Then he conforms a bit for a few classic good tunes, they pay the bills, Bodyrock, Honey, Feeling so real, James Bond. These tunes are the tunes Myfriends all like to hear. It annoys me but one day after a really bad moment in their life I will play Moby and they will know, oh yes, they will understand. What I want to know is why Moby doesn't do a Whole Movie score like James Horner. I spose failiures like Dave Grohl "touch" and Billy Corgan "ransom" have an impact. But his songs actually make films a whole lot better, Biased I know, but never the less. Examples are not hard to come by. I would love to bore you guys alot more with my emotion raves but I have a lecture to get to so Spot Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 14 Sep 1999 00:52:29 EDT That was deep man, I enjoyed reading that Joseph. :) ~Felicia P.S. I agree totally. I try so hard to get my friends into Moby. They just dont get it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 12 Sep 1999 23:54:11 -0500 i've gotten 6 or 7 friends into Moby so far... and thats without really trying very hard. I drug several people to his concert in st. louis. 2 or 3 weren't very big fans, but couldn't thank me enough after the show. My mom even has a copy of "End of Everything" DJSkitles5@aol.com wrote: > That was deep man, I enjoyed reading that Joseph. :) > > ~Felicia > > P.S. I agree totally. I try so hard to get my friends into Moby. They just > dont get it. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 14 Sep 1999 01:02:51 EDT Oh..... I took my friend Fay to the Moby concert in Detroit on Aug. 31st. I think shes converted. Moby has that power live. Ya know? ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NadaButNet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Lies in your eyes Date: 14 Sep 1999 01:43:43 EDT In a message dated 99-09-14 01:00:45 EDT, you write: << i've gotten 6 or 7 friends into Moby so far... and thats without really trying very hard. I drug several people to his concert in st. louis. 2 or 3 weren't very big fans, but couldn't thank me enough after the show. My mom even has a copy of "End of Everything" >> I love that line by jeff Buckley... "the only thing I ever stole from my father was a fleeting glimpse..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NadaButNet@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I saw a shooting star last night I wished on one but they were only Date: 14 Sep 1999 01:58:32 EDT In a message dated 99-09-12 23:24:40 EDT, you write: << hey!! i am sorry that i forgot to mention the BBS in my review of the pittsburgh show last week. three words: THEY FUCKING ROCK!!!! by the second song in the entire club was completely humming. my mate and i just looked at one another and said, "HOLY SHIT!!!!" jeff >> they were ok..still trying to break out of that asian-geek stereotype...trying really hard...very repetitive....couldn't make out what they were saying... alot of people were a bit shocked to see their faces... they played alot of great reggae before their set.... and after, they played the best of Version 2.0 by garbage....!!!! I was very very happy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) I saw a shooting star last night I wished on one but Date: 14 Sep 1999 02:01:41 EDT I LOOOOVVVVEEE the Boom Boom Satelites, they rule! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Redmond" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at sessions, nyc Date: 14 Sep 1999 00:50:18 -0600 Any idea when this concert will air, or am i thinking of a different sessions? daniel ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:54 PM > i saw moby perform at sessions today and he was sooo great! he played "when > it's cold i'd like to die" and "everytime u touch me" w/ the female vocalists > who are on everything is wrong! how cool is that! sessions is like mtv > unplugged so it was terribly hard to restrain myself from busting outta my > seat and dancing. the highlight was when moby was talking to the audience > and recognized me and talked into his mike. "hi" he says and waves and > smiles at me and tells the audience "i met this young lady 2 yrs ago on the > train and she was going to an antifur protest." h e says some more stuff > about our encounter and says that good clean air has given him such a good > memory. i was caught so off guard and was blushing the whole time... but i > feel sooo sooo special ; ). the fact that moby remembers me and our > conversation from 2 yrs ago is incredible and everytime i see him, he gives > me a kiss on the cheek. i hope all of u get to experience meeting this > wonderful man and hearing him perform. god, i luv the guy like you couldnt > imagine. > > animal lib, vegan power > sara > > ps- i cant stop smiling ear to ear... whatta day to remember. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) assholes at shows Date: 14 Sep 1999 12:50:05 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) But didn't Moby say he wanted to have sex with everybody in the audience at some recent gig, or something along those lines? Still, you always do get the drunken twats at gigs. On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:34:13 EDT Mobyee@aol.com wrote: > that was really rude about those frat boys. i just hate guys like that...but > at least it wasn't as rude and demeaning(sp?) as this guy at the detroit > show. i was dead center and for the last 3 or 4 songs i had to hear a > drunken bastard shouting out "you know you want to have sex with us" (his > girlfriend actually went along with it) over and over again, saying it right > to moby! how could someone be so disrespect when i go to a show i totally > respect the artist i pay to see, and i would never say something so terrible > like that. i hope that that guy gets a sever case of karma in return for > saying that shit. > ~e*E~ > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tecknomonk@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby's music Date: 14 Sep 1999 09:35:35 EDT i agree... it's not that hard for people to like moby. but, there is a distinction between liking and loving moby because moby is a different musician -- his motivation is to captivate you through his music emotionally. he wants people to fall in love with his music just like he did -- that's why he's making records. i find it unusual for someone to listen to 'bodyrock' for the first time and fall in love with moby instantly. i find it to be a process. i was first exposed to 'everything was wrong' a few years back and it made me want to discover moby more.... and the more i dig through and digest all of his albums into my mind, i feel like i'm in a way connecting with him. it's almost like digging through a tunnel.... eventually you'll reach moby's mind and fall in love with him. .. t i n a ...................................... .... t h s i e h @ u m i c h . e d u ................. .. t e c k n o m o n k @ a o l . c o m .................... .... m o b y @ r a v e w o r l d . n e t ............... .. m o b y @ s o n i c n e t m a i l . c o m .................... .... h t t p : / / d j c a k e . c j b . n e t ............. ............................................................................. "I don't think of myself as being right anymore... As I've gotten older I've become more tolerant and less arrogant." -- Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 14 Sep 1999 14:00:10 -0400 Here is my web page and the interview...I will have a live review coming in the next day or so. I'll keep you posted! http://www.geocities.com/~jnovotny/ http://www.geocities.com/~jnovotny/interviews/mobyinterview.html Yeah, it's only September and it's a little early to be picking favorites, but I think the chances are slim that anyone will release anything better than 'Play'. Enjoy the interview, I hope you'll find some interesting stuff on there! If there are any typos, let me know and I'll change them. XO, Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 14 Sep 1999 15:32:47 EDT In response to PLAY being the best record of the year thus far (and it is extraordinary), I offer you another front runner for album of the year: Macy Gray's "On HOw Life Is." Amazing combination of soul, raspy vocals, hip-hop, and funk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) A forgotten letter, dusty feelings: for any broken heart Date: 14 Sep 1999 12:42:09 -0700 <---- DISCLAIMER: This is a long email. It's intensly personal and taken from a letter I wrote when I was just barely 18 and that was never mailed (obviously). I'm not sure why I'm sharing this w/ strangers but ppl tend to tell their deepest, darkest secrets to those they know they'll never see. Maybe some one on the list is feeling down and needs to hear that life is beautiful and suicide makes ppl suffer. OR maybe this is part of some kind of weird healing process for me. I hope no one gets pissy about it. It's honest but dated. And, hey, I'm being melodramatic I know. I'm a writer though and I can't help myself. :-) END DISCLAIMER ----> <----SETTING ----> Here we go. Ok, today I'm cleaning the new apt that my new bf and I share. It is in Tucson, a far cry away from PHX, a place I fled almost a year ago. I'm in an empowered mood today and I decided to listen to End of Everything which has such tremendous memories for me. I listened to it when I was dying of lonliness, waiting for my ex to come back from long business trips when we were together, sharing an apt, sharing a love for Techno and sharing MOBY cds. And I listened to it a lot to match my mood when he left me, standing at our once front door when my key didn't work in the new locks he had installed, when he left me. And I listen to it now, just a trunk of memories and a soothing meditative soundtrack for my day. As I'm listening, I'm cleaning. I find a big plasitic box that I kept my things in when I moved in w/ my ex. A box that latter came to hold bills and other stray papers. A box that is now used to hold old clothes. I thought I'd give it a looksie and maybe clean it out so I could use it for more important things. Opening it reminded me of my ex and his leaving me and my being very lonely. In it I found some old bills that I regret not having paid and a letter. A forgotten letter, odly, to MOBY. Here is it.... <-----END SETTING----> Dear R. Hall, I'm listening to When it's Cold I'd Like to Die. I have it on repeat. I do that when I get depressed. This song makes me think of giving up and suicide. It's so hard not to cry when I hear this song. It makes me think the way I did when I was a kid. Giving up would be so easy, not fighting "the tide" makes me think of drounding, maybe in a sea of ppl, millions of ppl who are cold, stupid, jaded and what have you. When the person sings "where were you when I was lonesome...?" I think of how often I am alone. Right now my bf is out on business. I miss him so much and I am miserable. He couldn't help but leave me this time but he leaves me alone a lot. (next line omitted) I'm so sick of life. I used to urge myself, to plod along even when other ppl made life Hell. (line ommited) I can't find reasons to be happy any more. Not like I was much happier. I had it rough and I had my share of pain but I could be strong. (line omitted) My only motivation in life was to show ppl I was smart, talented and so much better than what they thought of me. (very personal lines omitted) I live because the thought of leaving my bf and best friend just hurts so much. They both need me. But I find it's so hard to go on. The last year of my life has been Hell and spiraling down. It's so hard to deal w/. I don't want to swim either. I just want to fall into the waves at night and dround painlessly. (paragraph ommited) But God, life can be so beautiful. I listen to your songs that they're so beautiful. I look at my bf and see someone that I would die for undoubtedly. I hold him when he cries and my pain is nothing. Being w/ him and being ok for a while is wonderful. (line omitted) I think of what's beautiful and even that can make me ok. (paragraphs omitted) I don't know why you would care. (personal things omitted) If you've gotten this, then you've probabaly tossed it by now. What have I said that makes me stand out from any one else? In a world of billions, I'm just a useless peice of black, depressed shit. My feelings are repeated by other ppl day in and day out. So why would you even take the time to listen? Well, maybe you don't care but God has blessed you. You are in a wonderous place. You have a very moving talent and positive energy. (line omitted) What you say in your sleave essays is so important! (lines omitted) I don't know why I've written this. I'm just sad and the song made me think. (lines omitted) The saddenst thing is, although we feel alone, we aren't and when we take our lives, others suffer. (lines omitted) (last paragraph omitted) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 14 Sep 1999 14:53:30 -0500 In response to PLAY being the best record of the year thus far (and it is extraordinary), I offer you another front runner for album of the year: Macy Gray's "On HOw Life Is." Amazing combination of soul, raspy vocals, hip-hop, and funk. --->Ohh!! Do we even want to go here??? How many emails is this going to generate with everyone putting their best of so far. But I'm going to be bad and push my favs. Two bands for you: Low - 'Secret Name' * It's simply brilliant & they are from Duluth, MN! Quasi - 'Field Studies' *The songwriting by Sam Coones makes me weep. Play is the best of the year for I as well - but Low & Quasi are soooooooo there as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Melanie A. Gilbert" Subject: RE: (mobility) A forgotten letter, dusty feelings: for any broken heart Date: 14 Sep 1999 14:55:51 -0500 Yeah...I don't think we needed to see that. Especially with all the good stuff omitted!! =) -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:42 PM <---- DISCLAIMER: This is a long email. It's intensly personal and taken from a letter I wrote when I was just barely 18 and that was never mailed (obviously). I'm not sure why I'm sharing this w/ strangers but ppl tend to tell their deepest, darkest secrets to those they know they'll never see. Maybe some one on the list is feeling down and needs to hear that life is beautiful and suicide makes ppl suffer. OR maybe this is part of some kind of weird healing process for me. I hope no one gets pissy about it. It's honest but dated. And, hey, I'm being melodramatic I know. I'm a writer though and I can't help myself. :-) END DISCLAIMER ----> <----SETTING ----> Here we go. Ok, today I'm cleaning the new apt that my new bf and I share. It is in Tucson, a far cry away from PHX, a place I fled almost a year ago. I'm in an empowered mood today and I decided to listen to End of Everything which has such tremendous memories for me. I listened to it when I was dying of lonliness, waiting for my ex to come back from long business trips when we were together, sharing an apt, sharing a love for Techno and sharing MOBY cds. And I listened to it a lot to match my mood when he left me, standing at our once front door when my key didn't work in the new locks he had installed, when he left me. And I listen to it now, just a trunk of memories and a soothing meditative soundtrack for my day. As I'm listening, I'm cleaning. I find a big plasitic box that I kept my things in when I moved in w/ my ex. A box that latter came to hold bills and other stray papers. A box that is now used to hold old clothes. I thought I'd give it a looksie and maybe clean it out so I could use it for more important things. Opening it reminded me of my ex and his leaving me and my being very lonely. In it I found some old bills that I regret not having paid and a letter. A forgotten letter, odly, to MOBY. Here is it.... <-----END SETTING----> Dear R. Hall, I'm listening to When it's Cold I'd Like to Die. I have it on repeat. I do that when I get depressed. This song makes me think of giving up and suicide. It's so hard not to cry when I hear this song. It makes me think the way I did when I was a kid. Giving up would be so easy, not fighting "the tide" makes me think of drounding, maybe in a sea of ppl, millions of ppl who are cold, stupid, jaded and what have you. When the person sings "where were you when I was lonesome...?" I think of how often I am alone. Right now my bf is out on business. I miss him so much and I am miserable. He couldn't help but leave me this time but he leaves me alone a lot. (next line omitted) I'm so sick of life. I used to urge myself, to plod along even when other ppl made life Hell. (line ommited) I can't find reasons to be happy any more. Not like I was much happier. I had it rough and I had my share of pain but I could be strong. (line omitted) My only motivation in life was to show ppl I was smart, talented and so much better than what they thought of me. (very personal lines omitted) I live because the thought of leaving my bf and best friend just hurts so much. They both need me. But I find it's so hard to go on. The last year of my life has been Hell and spiraling down. It's so hard to deal w/. I don't want to swim either. I just want to fall into the waves at night and dround painlessly. (paragraph ommited) But God, life can be so beautiful. I listen to your songs that they're so beautiful. I look at my bf and see someone that I would die for undoubtedly. I hold him when he cries and my pain is nothing. Being w/ him and being ok for a while is wonderful. (line omitted) I think of what's beautiful and even that can make me ok. (paragraphs omitted) I don't know why you would care. (personal things omitted) If you've gotten this, then you've probabaly tossed it by now. What have I said that makes me stand out from any one else? In a world of billions, I'm just a useless peice of black, depressed shit. My feelings are repeated by other ppl day in and day out. So why would you even take the time to listen? Well, maybe you don't care but God has blessed you. You are in a wonderous place. You have a very moving talent and positive energy. (line omitted) What you say in your sleave essays is so important! (lines omitted) I don't know why I've written this. I'm just sad and the song made me think. (lines omitted) The saddenst thing is, although we feel alone, we aren't and when we take our lives, others suffer. (lines omitted) (last paragraph omitted) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: (mobility) Especially with all the good stuff omitted Date: 14 Sep 1999 13:14:38 -0700 "Melanie A. Gilbert" wrote: > Yeah...I don't think we needed to see that. > Especially with all the good stuff omitted!! > > =) I'm just evil that way, omitting all the juiciest details! Bwa Ha Ha! But I don't know, I was thinking about it and crazy as it maybe, my honesty was making me nervous. But why? Because I'm selfconscious about my feelings. I think most ppl are. Not only do we care about what others think of our looks but we care about what they think of our feelings too. Weird....why do we frett so much?! I mean, a lot of ppl have deep MOBY realated experiences that are deep and personal for them. And they share them...well, this is a huge chunk of my deep and personal MOBY realted stuff. What brought my ex and I together (practically) was MOBY's music. He actually thought I was a cooler chick because I listened to MOBY. He didn't think crappy MOBY fans could exist. *giggle* Ok, I know it was a very personal story but many of you have also shared stories just as personal and meaningful to you. And what do we ever expect out of the ppl who read our MOBY accounts? All we can expect, I guess is that they, being human like ourselves, they can empathize and nod in agreeance. We've all been happy and we've all be sad. I'm uh runnin' at tha 'ol trap here. I'll shut it now. Cheerfully, Kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 13 Sep 1999 15:19:21 -0500 sorry... but i have to throw my two cents in Has anyone heard the self titled cd by The Beta Band? Its a strange mix of beck type sound collage work with old beatles style songs I love it! Of course... play is number one in my book too -----rob "Melanie A. Gilbert" wrote: > In response to PLAY being the best record of the year thus far (and it is > extraordinary), I offer you another front runner for album of the year: > Macy > Gray's "On HOw Life Is." Amazing combination of soul, raspy vocals, > hip-hop, > and funk. > > --->Ohh!! Do we even want to go here??? How many emails is this going to > generate with everyone putting their best of so far. But I'm going to be > bad and push my favs. > > Two bands for you: > > Low - 'Secret Name' * It's simply brilliant & they are from Duluth, MN! > > Quasi - 'Field Studies' *The songwriting by Sam Coones makes me weep. > > Play is the best of the year for I as well - but Low & Quasi are soooooooo > there as well. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: (mobility) FTP site up for Moby live? Date: 14 Sep 1999 13:34:58 -0700 Has anyone taken riz up on the offer? I'd love to hear these mp3's but I unfortunately don't have an ftp site. Shaun > From: Io6032@aol.com > > my friend managed to dub a live moby show of the radio. it was > the boston set at the hatchshell i believe. anyways i was planning > on mp3'ing. anyone got an ftp site where i could send it? > or should i be cdr'ing it for everyone. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) FTP site up for Moby live? Date: 13 Sep 1999 15:37:23 -0500 Is Dr. Killpatient still on this list????????? ;-) Shaun Rader wrote: > Has anyone taken riz up on the offer? I'd love to hear these mp3's but I > unfortunately don't have an ftp site. > > Shaun > > > From: Io6032@aol.com > > > > my friend managed to dub a live moby show of the radio. it was > > the boston set at the hatchshell i believe. anyways i was planning > > on mp3'ing. anyone got an ftp site where i could send it? > > or should i be cdr'ing it for everyone. :) -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: Re: (mobility) FTP site up for Moby live? Date: 14 Sep 1999 15:51:08 -0500 Give me a couple of days and I'll do it... Daniel > Has anyone taken riz up on the offer? I'd love to hear these mp3's but I > unfortunately don't have an ftp site. > > Shaun > > > From: Io6032@aol.com > > > > my friend managed to dub a live moby show of the radio. it was > > the boston set at the hatchshell i believe. anyways i was planning > > on mp3'ing. anyone got an ftp site where i could send it? > > or should i be cdr'ing it for everyone. :) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Killpatient" Subject: (mobility) the doctor is in Date: 14 Sep 1999 14:16:35 -0700 Since my name was brought up and I happened to be paying attention I thought I would pop in and say HI to everyone, many of you I talk to regularly and many of you are new in the last year or so and don't know much of me. For many reasons I did not get a recording of the SF and Phoenix shows from this tour as I had hoped to BUT i DO plan on recording at the Coachella Festival in October. That is going to be the biggest, best festival I've ever been to- so many incredible artists all in one place. If anyone else is planning on going please email me off list and maybe we can hang out at the gig. I have a few live shows for trading with other fans, but I need to upgrade my soundcard so I can get them off DAT to CDR or mp3 without having to have someone else do it. anyway- I really have enjoyed wearing my moby hat which i wear almost everyday since i bought it at the Phoenix show. Also- ARP is my latest favorite song and if you think part of it sounds farmiliar then that's because some of it came from a demo song I've heard called "Every One Of My Problems" talk to you all again soon i hope... i've been so busy lately- sorry paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beacwork@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Sept 14th Ft Myers concert cancelled Date: 14 Sep 1999 17:51:04 EDT What a bummer. Moby's concert in Ft Myers for tonight is cancelled due to the hurricane down here, rescheduled I think for November. Oh well. Blake ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) FTP site up for Moby live? Date: 14 Sep 1999 17:01:05 -0500 I can do it, have him email me privately, or just upload it to my site: ftp://129.93.210.81 C. Bourke -----Original Message----- >Has anyone taken riz up on the offer? I'd love to hear these mp3's but I >unfortunately don't have an ftp site. > >Shaun > >> From: Io6032@aol.com >> >> my friend managed to dub a live moby show of the radio. it was >> the boston set at the hatchshell i believe. anyways i was planning >> on mp3'ing. anyone got an ftp site where i could send it? >> or should i be cdr'ing it for everyone. :) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) sessions Date: 14 Sep 1999 18:32:02 EDT In a message dated 9/14/99 12:59:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << ok..first of all, how were you able to get in to that show at Sessions and when is it going to air on television...i know it airs in NJ on channel 13 or 8....hope to hear from you soon...peace...elie >> i just called up sessions and got 2 free tickets. it airs on channel 13 in october. they didnt give us an exact date. animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) sessions Date: 14 Sep 1999 18:55:41 EDT man, i wish i had known about this...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: (mobility) hey Date: 14 Sep 1999 18:58:55 EDT i like chicken, so i guess it doesnt make me a vegin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike A7" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 14 Sep 1999 20:23:50 -0400 Novotny, Joe wrote: > Yeah, it's only September and it's a little early to be picking favorites, > but I think the chances are slim that anyone will release anything better > than 'Play'. Can't argue there. NOTHING I have heard so far this year will top "Play". It is as convincingly this year's best release to me as Faithless' "Sunday 8PM" was last year. New CD's before the end of the year from Pet Shop Boys and Prince but even those won't top Moby no way in hell from what I've heard. The only other CD I'd list so far this year at #2 is "No Angel" by Dido. But "Play" looks untoppable. MIkeA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 13 Sep 1999 19:26:35 -0500 I got the Dido cd saturday..... As many remixes that rollo and sister bliss do for moby... you wouldn't think it would be too hard for him to get in touch with dido... I would LOVE to hear a collaboration between the two -----rob Mike A7 wrote: > Novotny, Joe wrote: > > Yeah, it's only September and it's a little early to be picking > favorites, > > but I think the chances are slim that anyone will release anything better > > than 'Play'. > > Can't argue there. NOTHING I have heard so far this year will top "Play". > It is as convincingly this year's best release to me as Faithless' "Sunday > 8PM" was last year. > > New CD's before the end of the year from Pet Shop Boys and Prince but even > those won't top Moby no way in hell from what I've heard. The only other CD > I'd list so far this year at #2 is "No Angel" by Dido. But "Play" looks > untoppable. > > MIkeA -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. The driver's-side door bore a green Bumper-sticker that read 'Greed Sucks.'" -Addicted To Noise on the Woodstock Riots <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 14 Sep 1999 20:47:16 -0700 Hmmm let's see Nine Inch Nails "The Fragile" comes out in 6 days, along with The Cure's "Blood Flowers"....those will be hard for anyone to beat. Novotny, Joe wrote: > Yeah, it's only September and it's a little early to be picking favorites, > but I think the chances are slim that anyone will release anything better > than 'Play'. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 14 Sep 1999 21:16:24 -0700 Hmm also now thinking about it harder... Orbital "Middle of Nowhere", Underworld "Beaucop Fish", The Tea Party "Triptych", " The Chemical Brothers "Surrender", Ministry "Dark Side of the Spoon", Atari Teenage Riot, Lords of Acid, KMFDM "ADIOS",Red Hot Chili Peppers "Californication", and Ummm Filter "Title of the Record"...all good albums released this year...also many more I forgot..not saying they are better than "Play"...but not like everything is crap either compared to it.. Chris -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Rob Skipworth Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 5:27 PM I got the Dido cd saturday..... As many remixes that rollo and sister bliss do for moby... you wouldn't think it would be too hard for him to get in touch with dido... I would LOVE to hear a collaboration between the two -----rob Mike A7 wrote: > Novotny, Joe wrote: > > Yeah, it's only September and it's a little early to be picking > favorites, > > but I think the chances are slim that anyone will release anything better > > than 'Play'. > > Can't argue there. NOTHING I have heard so far this year will top "Play". > It is as convincingly this year's best release to me as Faithless' "Sunday > 8PM" was last year. > > New CD's before the end of the year from Pet Shop Boys and Prince but even > those won't top Moby no way in hell from what I've heard. The only other CD > I'd list so far this year at #2 is "No Angel" by Dido. But "Play" looks > untoppable. > > MIkeA -- <-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-> "An overturned Mercedes Benz, reeking of spilled gasoline, sat in a pile of broken glass near the east stage. 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Now my experience may have been different than everyone elses, and if so, please let me know...but at the Austin show, it was damn obvious from the first note of Bodyrock, that he really freaking loved the song, and was having a damn fun time playing it. That, for me, completely resolves that issue. Soda anyone? Daniel "How can anyone be unhappy in a world where we have bananas?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAMECH@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Profile Date: 14 Sep 1999 22:42:14 EDT Ryan "Alexander" 17 (just turned) Moby Collection: Umm pretty much all of it, except for the new singles. I don't own b-sides or ambient, and the rare ones (whichever those are) My brother first introduced me 3 years ago, and like many have mentioned, I must acquiesce to disliking him at first. However, you grow to love the music as your experience with the emotions called forth by the music begin to awaken. I also like KMFDM, Paul Van Dyk, Nine Inch Nails, Orbital, the Orb, Messiah, Prodigy, Apotheosis, Ascension, Tilt, and Juno Reactor... to name a few. I'm just starting to get in to DJing, so that might be interesting to some of you out there.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 14 Sep 1999 22:44:04 EDT In a message dated 09/14/1999 6:19:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tripwire@vdot.net writes: > Red Hot Chili > Peppers "Californication", THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE FUNK AND SOUL PIONEERS!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: (mobility) 16th in st pete Date: 14 Sep 1999 23:47:22 -0400 Does anyone have any info on the Jannus Landing show on the 16th in St Pete? I don't care about the hurricane but if it causes this show to be cancelled i'll drive into its direct path and let it blow me away and finish the job. dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ameesh Makadia" Subject: (mobility) Moby's past shows Date: 15 Sep 1999 01:49:25 -0400 I was wondering... Does anyone have or know of any recordings made of Moby's short appearance at the Radio 104 Fest in Hartford, CT on 5/31/99 or his show at Toad's Place in New Haven, CT on 7/24/99 ? Those are the only two times I've ever seen Moby and I'd love it if I could get a set list or recordings or something... Thanks Ameesh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) a little nervous Date: 15 Sep 1999 00:29:23 -0600 well, if moby did do those 2 tracks to pay the bills, more power too him i guess. they ARE kick ass songs, i mean, who cant get pumped by bodyrock, aside from a corpse? i guess if moby did write them to get noticed, he did a good job of it. he obviously loves what he does (duh) can really get into it, and knows what sounds good and what doesnt. hell, when i saw moby, he was about creamin his shorts on every song, runnin around, beating the little drum thing hes got, wailin on his guitar and screaming something i cant remember. anyway, thats my 2 bits. P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/prixfix/ goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: (mobility) Howdy Date: 15 Sep 1999 03:06:53 -0400 hey it's beejo back down in muggy hurricane-watch Tampa. i got back on the list after a few weeks away. as per the instrux, i'm going to give some info, though it's against my better judgment. i'm 30 (he says, wincing). moby collex is everything is wrong, play and a couple of disjointed singles lying around here somewhere. sad perhaps, compared to many of you who i'll have to catch up w/soon. long-time faves include bowie, depeche mode, prince, beatles and love & rockets. faves this decade are tricky, bjork, orbital, the roots, tori, underworld. i'm a copy editor (read: dull) down at the tampa tribune. it's actually pretty ok. i also get to review as much hip hop as i can stand, but i can't stand much, so i'm not very prolific. i did get to do a Play review some weeks ago (where my interest started) and i get to see him in st. petersburg, that famous home of, um, very little, on thursday. that's all for now. oh, i'm from dallas and also lived in pittsburgh last year. thanks for playing, beejo (or brian, if my mom's calling) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 15 Sep 1999 19:08:56 +1200 I wrote that thing about Moby making those songs to pay the bills but I didn't mean it like that. What I meant was the fact that Moby plays those songs to relax and kick back, have a little fun from the mostly negative point of view of the world. Most of his songs are extremely beautiful because of their deep sensitivity, but when Bodyrock comes on it's like Hold It there is a Beautiful Feeling Still left In this Fucking Hole we call Earth. Those songs are there not because he wants them there to pay the bills but because they still mean alot to him. You would be pretty much a loser if you thought everything held a sad vibe, surely? That is why all the chart toppers are all hippy eccentric lovey dovey songs. People like getting highs while they plod away at work. I like a good happy tune everyonce in a while and Moby provides it. That is why he is a legend. But we all have to admit that there is no one here that fell in love with him solely for songs like Bodyrock? If so no offence but Have you No Heart? I guess it's my problem. If we are going to nominate good albums, Don't get your Knickers in a twist if I say Creed's New Album Human Clay is going to Crank, but hold your breath for Smashing Pumpkins' new one with Jimmy back from the dead. Plus Tool must be Due are'nt they. Adios Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: (mobility) CDNow interview Date: 15 Sep 1999 00:41:41 -0700 Don't know if anyone has mentioned this one: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=665804013/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/dis cography.html/ArtistID=MOBY/docid=50924/select=features If that doesn't work just search for Moby and click 'features' on the left. Shaun ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: (mobility) profile crap. Date: 15 Sep 1999 02:04:01 -0600 im 18, live in denver colorado. been a fan of moby since he was on 120 minute forever and a day ago when 'i like to score' came out. i have i like to score, play and some mp3s strewn about my hdd. guess im not that much of a hardcore fan as others on this list, but hey, money spends quick and i have a big wish list };)> . im a big techno fan in general, opting mostly for jungle/trance/drumnbass. gets me pumped to hear a phat bassline drop in front of a fast kick. hmm.. big fan of Mocean Worker, Xdream, Adamx, dj depth, dj kemp, all the boys back home in the ny scene mostly. great bunch of people there. underworld, meat beat manifesto, luke vibert/plug, freestylers, 808state, Moa, luke slater, DJ db, Djrap, Josh Wink, dub pistols, orbital, TON of others i like. also an industrial buff... frontline assembly, skinny puppy, pigface, kmdfm, pig, nin, skold, bunch others in that area too. also enjoy bowie, iggy pop, jethro tull, tom petty, beatles, led zep, pink floyd, the cars, police.. all those good old bands that never seem to get old. hmmm... i work at a baseball stadim. 0o0o. plan on going to college eventually for computer programming/html stuff. in my spare time(most of my time actually) i spend on my music project, Prixfix. just me remixing stuff. check out my page(link on the bottom) well thats enough out of me. time for bed. P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/prixfix/ goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greening Ian Subject: (mobility) 1999 Selection ... Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:46:45 +0100 Okay, the obvious first : Orbital, 'The Middle of Nowhere' (live, their bass bins are bigger than my house...) the alt.rock constituency : Deus, 'The Ideal Crash' - just keeps sucking you in. Also coming up fast on the rails, and released next week, in the UK, anyway : Leftfield, 'Rythm & Stealth'. Of course I have to pick that week to be in Romania, but such is life. Check out Death in Vegas, 'The Contina Sessions'. We like... And Play, obviously.. Much Love, Ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby Bootlegs Date: 15 Sep 1999 03:06:00 -0700 Jeff did you ever get them downloaded? Where can I find these mp3s? I've never heard a Moby bootleg before... Shaun > Yeah that is the one's I am talking about. I have another 7 files to > go. I have heard the first of the files and the sound quality is OK, > but still it's Moby! > > Jeff > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJTripp2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Bootlegs Date: 15 Sep 1999 06:11:41 EDT i'd like to get ahold of those as well dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) 1999 Selection ... Date: 15 Sep 1999 14:00:04 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Death in Vegas - Contino Sessions are great. Not as dark as we were lead to believe, in my opinion. Just listened to it for the first time last night. Needs lots more listens though. Off to see Moby next Wednesday. Can't wait. Bye for over a week... TMB On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:46:45 +0100 Greening Ian wrote: > Okay, the obvious first : Orbital, 'The Middle of Nowhere' (live, their bass > bins are bigger than my house...) > > > the alt.rock constituency : Deus, 'The Ideal Crash' - just keeps sucking you > in. > > Also coming up fast on the rails, and released next week, in the UK, anyway > : Leftfield, 'Rythm & Stealth'. Of course I have to pick that week to be in > Romania, but such is life. > > Check out Death in Vegas, 'The Contina Sessions'. We like... > > And Play, obviously.. > > Much Love, > > Ian > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell, Shera" Subject: RE: (mobility) Sept 14th Ft Myers concert cancelled Date: 15 Sep 1999 09:01:33 -0400 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFF7A.6FB7634F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That is a bummer but it'll be well worth the wait. Enjoy in November! Shera -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 5:51 PM What a bummer. Moby's concert in Ft Myers for tonight is cancelled due to the hurricane down here, rescheduled I think for November. Oh well. Blake ********************************************************************** This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information. 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That is a bummer but it'll be well worth the wait.  Enjoy in November!

Shera

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 What a bummer. Moby's concert in Ft Myers for tonight is cancelled due to
the hurricane down here, rescheduled I think for November.
Oh well.

 Blake



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFF7A.6FB7634F-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) best album of 1999 Date: 15 Sep 1999 15:48:40 +0200 Joe Novotny wrote: >Yeah, it's only September and it's a little early to be picking favorites, >but I think the chances are slim that anyone will release anything better >than 'Play'. I heard the new Leftfield album called 'Rhythm & Stealth' is REALLY good, (rel. date 30 Sept. I believe..) I LOVE their new single 'Afrika shox' with raps by Afrika Bambaata. Check out the video clip of this one, it's really weird! :) So I think Play is going to get some heavy competition! (<>,,<>) np: The Korgis - Everybody's got to learn some time ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moby Subject: (mobility) 'hindsight & mistakes' Date: 15 Sep 1999 00:12:12 -0400 one other thing for the list... some of the things that i do in my professional life(not to mention my personal life) end up being things that with hindsight i judge as mistakes. examples: 1-re-recording 'that's when i reach for my revolver' as 'that's when i realize it's over'. this was a mistake. i regret it now. luckily the original version lives on while the sanitized version has been consigned to the dust-bin of history. 2-wearing a body-stocking in the 'move' video. ugh. 3-throwing the occasional tantrum on stage when things don't go well. etc. hopefully we learn from our mistakes? it's not for arbitrary reasons that i call myself the little idiot. i'm little and i'm an idiot:) so if i do something that seems weird or distasteful, there's a good chance that with hindsight i'll see it that way as well. -moby p.s-videos have been made for mobility go next is the e move feeling so real everytime you touch me into the blue hymn(2 versions, one terrible color version, and one nice black & white version) bring back my happiness revolver come on baby james bond theme honey run on bodyrock(3 versions and counting) why does my heart feel so bad? >>> This email comes from MOBY, forwarded by the list owner. >>> The address has been altered... do not reply to it! >>> The text has not been edited except for the subject. >>> Damian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moby Subject: (mobility) 'some questions answered' Date: 15 Sep 1999 00:12:12 -0400 hey i was just perusing the 'mobility' archives and i thought that i'd answer some questions... 1-i do not have a girlfriend. where did this rumour come from? 2-i'm not involved in making porno movies. my friend paul made a movie called 'porno' and i helped to pay for it. it's a comedy set in a sex-shop on christmas eve and it's kind hearted and there's no sex in it. two people do kiss for about 5 seconds, though... 3-i did a photo shoot for calvin klein, yes, it's true. i did it cos some of my other musician friends were doing it(john spencer, shirley manson), and so that i could give the fee($5,000) and the clothes($5,000 worth) to homeless charities. 4-the whole sell-out issue...the marriage of art and commerce is a complicated thing. i don't want to 'sell-out', but i do want to keep the record company happy so that i can continue to make records. a lot of the stuff that i do(mtv, etc) i do to reach more people, and because it's interesting. the marriage of art & commerce was certainly at it's most intersting at the video music awards... i guess that's it.. i'm heading to florida now to play in the hurricane. then on to atlanta and charlotte(really. i'm not making this up. maybe the hurricane is a fan...ha. ha.) -moby >>> This email comes from MOBY, forwarded by the list owner. >>> The address has been altered... do not reply to it! >>> The text has not been edited except for the subject. >>> Damian Subject: (mobility) moby font Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:17:59 +0200 Hi everybody, Could someone give me the URL of that KLF site where you could download the font both Moby and the KLF use? PLEASE!!! I don't know how this happened, but I can't find it anymore... I'm desperate! 1000 x thanks! Bart (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby font Date: 15 Sep 1999 20:24:51 +0200 >Hi everybody, > >Could someone give me the URL of that >KLF site where you could download the >font both Moby and the KLF use? PLEASE!!! > >I don't know how this happened, but I can't >find it anymore... I'm desperate! Sorry guys... already found it. Again, sorry for the useless e-mails Bart (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hytinic@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby font Date: 15 Sep 1999 14:29:54 EDT Bart, Just for the fun of it... ;o) Could you go ahead and post the address for the font? It would be a neat thing to have, IMHO. Thanks!! - Chip n.p. - nothing! (I'm at work... =( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Bye Everyone Date: 15 Sep 1999 11:55:43 PDT Due to the voluminous amount of mail coming into my mailbox from mobility and the start of school, I have to quit. Bye.. I'm sure you're happy. www.mp3.com/logickills ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCREAM3877@aol.com Subject: (mobility) hey Date: 15 Sep 1999 16:49:44 EDT hey everyone- i just subscribed to this mobility thing bout a week ago and i think it kicks ass- i no most of u r like pretty old- like in college and older- but i first started listening to moby like 2 years ago and im only 14 and i love him!!!!! hes soooooo awesome and his music means so much to me. - and its not just his music- i met him last year and hes the nicest man in the world!!! i love him- everything he does its for his fans and everything he does is with a smile on his face. hes just so awesome i cant stop talking about him and my friends dont see anything in his music- i dont no why- ive tried real hard- but i guess its takes time. thanx =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 16 Sep 1999 12:36:24 +1200 Hey out there in Moby land. Howzit Hanging First, Just like to say that it is amazing that Moby listens in on these things. I was a little sceptical about his presence but that was just layed to rest aye? There are so many things I want to ask him but I guess he has said his piece for a while. Next time Maybe. All I gotta say is Who The Fuck Cares what you do in your own life man. It's not our place to judge you by your mistakes. Little Idiot, if thats your name then we all must be the biggest morons on the planet cause we have done worse things than wearing skintight clothes. Am I right everybody? It's not like we make up for it by producing the sweeeeetest tunes and melodies to ever play in the breeze. Once more Moby, Sorry if we are petty in our judgement, u of all people do not have to make excuses to us. Second, Hey welcome Scream dude, I'm basically new myself and it's quite wierd to get in the swing of things. Don't be afraid to say what you feel, This group we got ourselves mixed up in is pretty sweet man, they don't judge you on anything. You say your 14 aye, thats pretty cool man, I'm 19, 20 in November, and even I feel like and old man. I got into Moby when I was around 17. I wished it was earlier cause you'll see that you will go through sum rough times and I wish I had Moby to listen to back then. Third, I feel so distanced from everyone way over here in NZ, is there anyone from Aussie or Kiwiland as well, please let me know. Fourth, To the Goddess of Musik, you know who you are, Rock Musik kicks Ass. Your not alone in this world of trance. Spot Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tecknomonk@aol.com Subject: (mobility) VMA Date: 15 Sep 1999 23:06:00 EDT hello! for anyone who wants to see moby in his gold lame suit (again) : go to mtv.com, click on shows, then click on house of style, and then click on rebecca romijn-stamos's head icon. there you will find moby's head in the corner as one of the top ten best dressed people (he's number 10). it's a really short interview w/ nikki taylor and it's in real player. -- t i n a ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Moby/KLF font Date: 16 Sep 1999 09:19:15 +0200 go here: http://quality.gconnect.com/KLF/Misc/ and look under the "other data" section, you'll find a .zip file that contains the font. Also, be sure to check out the rest of the site! I'm not a big KLF fan, but I still think it's a great site. (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) billbored Date: 16 Sep 1999 04:30:16 -0700 (PDT) hey i havent been keepin up with billboard much (skool) but i noticed yesterday that BROCK was n. 50 on the top 50 mtv charts. so they are playing it, just like 3 times a week. as in, 120 and AMP. damn. right, and PLAY hit like 121 a few weeks ago! yay! also, on Sockheads, at least my pal Morgana (who has a letter printed in SPIN this month!) is sticking up for Moby, saying that he, like any other electronic artist, doesnt get any respect on MTV. i mean, he just spun without them even saying "THIS IS MOBY" i mean in the new bilboard it sez how Fatboy Slim is probly gonna sell a lot more records cuz of this exposure. if they actualy said who MOBY is, they'd say the same of him. MOBY probly played other music thatn his own. he never plays his own when he DJ's right? like when DJ LARS on the real world DJed in 95, they dubbed mainstream crap over the underground house he played, so noboy really knew what he sounded like. so probly same with moby. big up to FBSLIM for winning! its about time techno gets some recognition! gotta go! bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Casey Pentz" Subject: (mobility) WDMHFSB Date: 16 Sep 1999 07:08:15 PDT Does anyone have the confirmed or at least tentative date for the release of the WDMHFSB single? Also does anyone know the b-sides that will be on it, and who will be remixing it? -Casey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dpec42@aol.com Subject: (mobility) yeah... i'm new... so what? Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:11:22 EDT well, i just joined a gew days ago, though i've been an avid listener for some time now... a few quick things... who cares about sales? i came to the realization a long time ago that there is no better indicator of a good record than mediocre sales. but it doesn't matter. good musicians do not make music in order to make money. and it generally shows. in the case of moby, and most other underexposed, underappreciated musicians, it doesn't matter how much they sell, because it's not a concern. the only concern with true art is the art. and good music certainly is art. i believe there's been some talk of this year's best albums (thus far, of course)... and i'll go-ahead and throw in my picks... in no particular order: moby - play fountains of wayne - utopia parkway jimmy eat world - clarity the get up kids - red letter day the promise ring - very emergency guided by voices - do the collapse add n to x - avant hard -don pentaro ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY AT THE ROXY!!!!!!!!!! Date: 16 Sep 1999 10:59:29 EDT JUST GOT ON TICKETMASTER ONLINE AND THEY ARE SELLING TICKETS FOR MOBY AT THE ROXY IN NYC FOR OCTOBER 28TH.....COULD NOT GET THEM ONLINE SO NOW I'M ON THE PHONE.....EVERYONE IN THE AREA GET TIX!!!!!!!!! ELIE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff cubeta" Subject: (mobility) veganism & Maureen Kennedy Salaman Date: 16 Sep 1999 12:25:52 -0400 dear Mobyheads - i am writing on behalf of a friend who is unfamiliar with Moby but who is very interested in his expressions about veganism. i wondered if anyone might be able to offer information about Maureen Kennedy Salaman. she is an internationally recognised biochemist who believes that the proper intake of vitamins and minerals will help the body heal itself of disease. her best known book is called All Your Health Questions Answered Naturally. my friend, sue, has a polyneuropathy which is a result of an immunodeficiency similar to AIDS. in some cases it can lead to fataly. it is not a popular illness which helps explain why there is not a lot of research about it. in addition to sue's regular medical treatment (which intends to cure the symptoms of her neuropathy) she is beginning to take a full amount of vitamins and minerals every day - virtually flushing her system - so that the body may begin to heal itself of the immunodeficiency. (the minerals are bought in a general nutrition store and taken in liquid form.) as well she will move toward veganism and eat organically (thereby trying to avoid chemicals and pesticides.) if anyone has any thoughts about sue's illness or information about Ms. Salaman's work please email me at jeferson@twd.net or jeffreycubeta@hotmail.com - or email sue at sllsea@aol.com we would be most grateful!! jeff pms - i have also dubbed a mix tape of moby songs and xeroxed the essays out of Everything Is Wrong and Play for sue - i'm going to give them to her as a gift. ppms - moby, are you there?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) WDMHFSB Date: 16 Sep 1999 18:54:19 +0200 Casey Pentz wrote: > Does anyone have the confirmed or at least tentative date for the >release of the WDMHFSB single? Also does anyone know the b-sides that will >be on it, and who will be remixing it? This is what DEF said about it: Moby's next single will be "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad". The single will be released worldwide (except in North America) on October 11, and will feature remixes by ATB, Ferry Corsten, The Sharp Boys and Subsonic Legacy. This comes from Moby himself: 'why does my heart feel so bad?' to be the next european single with remixes from: rollo/faithless ferry corsten atb sharp bros. b-sides undecided as of yet. the video is most likely going to be animated. a story about the little idiot(umm, me) and his dog(devil dog) who live on the moon and come down to earth in a wheelbarrow and have some adventures. (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby guitar Date: 16 Sep 1999 13:04:35 EDT who was that person that sent an e-mail talking about Launch giving away a Moby guitar...i went there and it seems like the contest happened a long time ago...oh well..peace...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) wow! moby himself! Date: 16 Sep 1999 17:02:14 EDT i cant believe moby wrote to mobility! he's too wonderful! im so glad he has confirmed not having a girlfriend ; ). oh, a few days ago i found nice stacks of moby postcards and stickers at nyu. cant wait to see him in nyc again! animal lib, vegan power. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) wow! moby himself! Date: 16 Sep 1999 18:08:28 EDT WHEN DID HE WRITE?!?!?! I THINK I MAY HAVE DELETED IT!!! SOME1 PLEASE CUT & PASTE!!! THANKS! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: Re: (mobility) WDMHFSB Date: 16 Sep 1999 11:38:56 -0600 Bart van Eijck wrote: > > Casey Pentz wrote: > > Does anyone have the confirmed or at least tentative date for the > >release of the WDMHFSB single? Also does anyone know the b-sides that will > >be on it, and who will be remixing it? > > This is what DEF said about it: > ------------------------------------------- > Moby's next single will be "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad". The single will > be released worldwide (except in North America) on October 11, and will > feature remixes by ATB, Ferry Corsten, The Sharp Boys and Subsonic Legacy. Also the promos are apparently being sent out. WDMHFSB showed up this week in the UK Club Charts from dotmusic: Week 37 > 19 - 1 WHY DOES MY HEART FEEL SO BAD? > Moby > Mute Can't wait!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beacwork@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) wow! moby himself! Date: 16 Sep 1999 19:45:58 EDT one other thing for the list... some of the things that i do in my professional life(not to mention my personal life) end up being things that with hindsight i judge as mistakes. examples: 1-re-recording 'that's when i reach for my revolver' as 'that's when i realize it's over'. this was a mistake. i regret it now. luckily the original version lives on while the sanitized version has been consigned to the dust-bin of history. 2-wearing a body-stocking in the 'move' video. ugh. 3-throwing the occasional tantrum on stage when things don't go well. etc. hopefully we learn from our mistakes? it's not for arbitrary reasons that i call myself the little idiot. i'm little and i'm an idiot:) so if i do something that seems weird or distasteful, there's a good chance that with hindsight i'll see it that way as well. -moby p.s-videos have been made for mobility go next is the e move feeling so real everytime you touch me into the blue hymn(2 versions, one terrible color version, and one nice black & white version) bring back my happiness revolver come on baby james bond theme honey run on bodyrock(3 versions and counting) why does my heart feel so bad? >>> This email comes from MOBY, forwarded by the list owner hey i was just perusing the 'mobility' archives and i thought that i'd answer some questions... 1-i do not have a girlfriend. where did this rumour come from? 2-i'm not involved in making porno movies. my friend paul made a movie called 'porno' and i helped to pay for it. it's a comedy set in a sex-shop on christmas eve and it's kind hearted and there's no sex in it. two people do kiss for about 5 seconds, though... 3-i did a photo shoot for calvin klein, yes, it's true. i did it cos some of my other musician friends were doing it(john spencer, shirley manson), and so that i could give the fee($5,000) and the clothes($5,000 worth) to homeless charities. 4-the whole sell-out issue...the marriage of art and commerce is a complicated thing. i don't want to 'sell-out', but i do want to keep the record company happy so that i can continue to make records. a lot of the stuff that i do(mtv, etc) i do to reach more people, and because it's interesting. the marriage of art & commerce was certainly at it's most intersting at the video music awards... i guess that's it.. i'm heading to florida now to play in the hurricane. then on to atlanta and charlotte(really. i'm not making this up. maybe the hurricane is a fan...ha. ha.) -moby >>> This email comes from MOBY, forwarded by the list owner. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) wow! moby himself! Date: 16 Sep 1999 19:59:53 EDT GO MOBY AND THE ROXY!!!!!!! WHEN THE HELL DID E-MAIL US..can we have a copy of it....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otherstar@aol.com Subject: (mobility) mind games with moby Date: 16 Sep 1999 13:48:06 EDT from the san francisco bay guardian: http://www.sfbg.com/Guides/Noise993/moby.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: (mobility) St Pete show Date: 17 Sep 1999 02:38:01 -0400 lemme catch my breath and then tell you about one of the oddest days of my life. It all started when the girl who bought my moby ticket for me and was supposed to go to the show with me disappeared off the face of the planet. Why would anyone care? because she had my ticket, thats why! After exhausting close to 72 hours on trying to locate her, i remembered a friend of a friend had extra tix and was goin to the show, but one prob, I didn't have his number. So after spending from 10am to 5pm attempting to call people who might know his number to no success i decided I would go get my own ticket at the local alternative record store. Only problem, they had no tix. so i come back home(now 5:40pm, doors are at 7 and the venue is a good 40 mins away in no traffic) call my friend one more time, get her roommate who thank god founf her phone book and gave me the number, i call, secure two tix, invite my friend along and the three of us(me, my friend and the guy with the tix) hop in my car at 7pm and head west. I should mention that in between all this i was breaking up with my girlfriend today(that was fun), so going to the show became more than just wanting to see moby but a need to distract myself from the pain. anyway, while waiting for boom boom satellites(who never showed) we were talking about old rock and started talkin bout Sabbath and "paranoid" in particular, and lo and behold, Moby played paranoid. At the beginning of the show me and my friend yelled out "play some skynyrd" and "freebird" which....moby played. Then we were talking about smog and fog and i mentioned how we never get fogged in in the neighborhood we live in which used to happen very often but now never did....so of course we drove home through thick fog. Then we couldn't get in to my friends gated community cuz some one had broken the keypad, so we had to hot wire it to get him home. But anyway back to Moby, awesome show, I was not disappointed in anyway other than the fact he didn't play "south side" which is one of my faves. Here's the setlist(which i managed to secure and later get signed): Find My Baby Mach2 Porcelain Bond Go Next is the E Everloving WDMHFSB Perfect(i don't remember this i think this is where he played sabbath and skynyrd and I think he said rage against the machine but I didn't recognize that song) Ah-Ah Bring Back My Happiness Natural BodyRock(i think this was played earlier in the set) Honey first encore ??i can't remember to save my life right now second encore ?? thousand let me just say, i've never been so exhausted after a show like this before. I know I was dancing all show long but my legs were giving out on me half way through the set. Powerful powerful stuff. After the show the damn security threw me out and wouldn't let me talk to Moby who was five feet away, but Moby stopped on his way out and I asked him about Voodoo Child and he said he didn't see a new voodoo child album for a long time(he's in a different place right now). He also signed three album covers and my setlist for me and then i go him to sign my drivers license. =) don't ask. good night dave(what girlfriend?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: Re: (mobility) St Pete show Date: 17 Sep 1999 09:15:35 -0400 i'm glad you got to go. we were a few minutes late, but judging by your setlist, we got there by the 1st or 2nd song. not bad, considering i had no idea where i was going when i left the house and thot boom boom would still be playing by the time i got there. at any rate, during i guess Perfect was when he busted into a Public Enemy rap, but now i can't remember what it was to save my sorry ass. let's see, mostly all moby had to say on stage was "thank you. thank you" and then apologize for his appearance. he wore a dingy white wife-beater Tshirt and black trousers, which he insisted were too large. and i'm always glad to see there's a market for old guys with little hair. i liked the setup at jannus, since you walk in and you're at the stage. i heard your friend holler for skynyrd and was shocked as all getout when he started playing it. didn't someone scream for bon jovi? we got our tickets at the gate. there was no line to speak of, which was a relief. i thnk my friend who went was still unsure. he doesn't usually do anything fun but thanked me probly a half-dozen times on the way home. "This was a good idea. i'm glad we went. blah blah blah" a friend in dallas didn't go, making his excuse that it was at lizard lounge, plus it was dallas in august, which means about 150 degrees. i'm off. i hope everyone else gets to see him when he comes through your burgs. hey david, when's the next interesting show coming to the Bay area? please email me at the guavaween.com address if you think of something coming up. lord knows i can't guess what it would be. time to sober up and get ready for work cheers bj ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) all those videos! Date: 17 Sep 1999 09:40:47 -0700 (PDT) anybody ever seen the vid for "Mobility"? i never knew that 1ne had a vid! moby has to do a vid comp, i mean AFX and TMBG did! how else are we gonna see these videos anyway?!?!?! new stereolab tuesday! CRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jake M." Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 17 Sep 1999 11:07:51 PDT Since I had some time, I'd thought I'd chime in on this...even though it may be an old topic to some of you all...sorry.. This summer I had some luck and converted 3 people to Moby...2 by taking them to a concert and the other one by playing PLAY at closing at my place of employment. About a year ago one of my best friends bought a couple singles because I talked about moby often and now he is a fan. Its pretty cool...but I still cannot reach some people. I've found that many people I know really like his punk stuff. But anyway...if you play the songs enough around other people...it will slowly happen :-). On other moby news: This is quite late...but I was fortunate enough to catch moby in Denver last month. After being a fan for about 1/4 of my life (i am 19) I was pretty estatic to see him. The show was incredible...and if I could describe it I would...but I am not feeling that descriptive right now. But the DJ's before the show pretty much sucked (we did not get Boom Boom, just some local dj's). ANd the concert was a reunion for me...saw two friends I had not seen in ages. But anyway. Moby: Thanks a lot for making some great music and putting on a great show. Another way to get people into moby...if you are at college or in a town with a community radio station get invovled. I know many of the people on the list do this. Just play moby all the time. I play him at least twice a show. I actually got a request for Honey one time (I go to a school where reggae and folk/bluegrass are the music genres of choice, so I was shocked). Thats all from me for a while. Jake NP: James "Whiplash" > >i've gotten 6 or 7 friends into Moby so far... and thats without really >trying >very hard. I drug several people to his concert in st. louis. 2 or 3 >weren't >very big fans, but couldn't thank me enough after the show. > >My mom even has a copy of "End of Everything" > > >DJSkitles5@aol.com wrote: > > > That was deep man, I enjoyed reading that Joseph. :) > > > > ~Felicia > > > > P.S. I agree totally. I try so hard to get my friends into Moby. They >just > > dont get it. > >-- > > > "The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html -- The Millenium Liberation "The official unofficial radio show for those who don't care about Y2k" 12-3am Mountain Time www.webradio.com/kdur or www.kdur.org The best in Brit. Rock, Hip-Hop, Techno and Indie Requests: Email rockmanrock@hotmail.com or (970)247-7262 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) all those videos! Date: 17 Sep 1999 14:41:04 -0400 > moby has to do a vid comp, i mean AFX and TMBG did! > how else are we gonna see these videos anyway?!?!?! Yeah a video comp for moby would be great! AFX did one? is it like a rare thing or new? Guess im falling behind! > new stereolab tuesday! CRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 New NIN and TORI tuesday! buhbye eric gold@netrox.net http://www.tonematrix.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: (mobility) concert review Date: 17 Sep 1999 15:11:14 -0400 hey the following review will run Saturday in the Triubune. yall get to see it first. cheers, bj Review By CURTIS ROSS of The Tampa Tribune =84 ST. PETERSBURG On disc, Moby refuses to restrict himself to any one genre. Thursday night at Jannus Landing, he managed to break down, or ignore, a few barriers live as well. The hyperactive beats and ecstatic feel of Moby's more frenzied dance tracks wouldn't be out of place at a rave. A crowd of only 561 meant plenty of room for dancing as well. But the performer (born Richard Melville Hall) and his three- piece band had no qualms about slamming through remakes of rock numbers such as Black Sabbath's ''Paranoid'' or Mission of Burma's ''That's When I Reach for My Revolver.'' A half-baked take on Lynyrd Skynyrd's ''Free Bird'' led off the encore. The musical focus was on Moby's most recent album, ''Play.'' Key tracks from that album feature samples of black gospel singers over computerized dance beats. It's a mixture that could be garish (or sacrilegious) in the wrong hands. But on tracks such as ''Why Does My Heart Feel so Bad?,'' Moby achieves something that is both painfully beautiful and transcendent. Watching the slight performer on stage as the prerecorded voices of the Shining Light Gospel Choir boomed behind him gave an added poignancy to one of the evening's highlights. Other numbers, such as ''Bodyrock,'' ''Go'' and a sound thrashing of Monty Norman's ''James Bond Theme'' were pure hedonistic fun. And the tune Moby introduced as a ''very beautiful disco song,'' ''Feeling So Real,'' was an explosion of joyous noise. Moby, given to lengthy essays expounding his political, spiritual and social views in his albums' liner notes, proved a humble, gracious and humorous stage presence. He also indulged in some rock icon poses on the final number, pumping his fists in the hair and then standing atop a keyboard as strobe lights flashed around him. Scheduled opening act Boom Boom Satellites was an unannounced no-show. It's a shame the headliner didn't compensate with a longer set. foot =8B Curtis Ross covers pop music and can be reached at (813) 259-7568 or email cross@tampatrib.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beacwork@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) St Pete show Date: 17 Sep 1999 17:23:25 EDT You St pete bastards. I was all ready to hear moby live for the first time and what happens, a hurricane. It figures after George......... There is no justice in this life. Moby you better be coming back here ................ Where is my NIN cd????????? a crushed Blake (no pulp) - Ft Myers FL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: Re: (mobility) St Pete show Date: 17 Sep 1999 17:53:08 -0400 yeah we are some st. pete bastards. you shoulda come up. actually, what the hell were they closing the fort myers gig for? anyway, you shoulda come up. it was pretty damn great. moby did i think mention the weather last night. something about how relieved we were that the hurrican passed us by. then everyone cheered. i thought, "how odd to cheer the weather" but whatever cheers, bj Beacwork@aol.com wrote: > You St pete bastards. I was all ready to hear moby live for the first time > and what happens, a hurricane. It figures after George......... > There is no justice in this life. Moby you better be coming back here > ................ > Where is my NIN cd????????? > > a crushed Blake (no pulp) - Ft Myers FL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tecknomonk@aol.com Subject: (mobility) woodstock netcast Date: 17 Sep 1999 18:19:51 EDT RAVEWORLD'S EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE @ WOODSTOCK WORLD PREMIER WOODSTOCK 99 RAVE MOVIE - UNCUT, UNCENSORED AND WITH LIVE SETS FROM FAT BOY SLIM, MOBY, SANDRA COLLINS AND MORE. go to www.raveworld.net at 10PM tonight 9/17 (friday)!!! -tina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby at roxy! Date: 17 Sep 1999 19:05:48 EDT In a message dated 9/17/99 3:14:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << JUST GOT ON TICKETMASTER ONLINE AND THEY ARE SELLING TICKETS FOR MOBY AT THE ROXY IN NYC FOR OCTOBER 28TH >> thanx for letting us mobyheads in nyc know!!! im soooooo happy!!! this will be the 5th motha f*ckin time in nyc ive seen the man since june!!! woo hoo!!! gonna get tickets tomorrow(they seem to get pricier - but it's well worth it)! animal lib, vegan power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy! Date: 17 Sep 1999 19:13:46 EDT how much are roxy tix? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MCJCREW@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy! Date: 17 Sep 1999 22:59:28 EDT The tixx are $23 bucks! if you are buying through ticketmaster its gonna cost you more as always. Cause ticketmaster are a bunch of jackasses (just sharing my thought) Peace y'all Marisa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MCJCREW@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I heard Moby! Date: 17 Sep 1999 23:19:12 EDT Hi all! Today I popped a movie in my vcr and surprise surprise who do I hear, Moby! The movie is Playing by Heart and the song Run On. I don't know if this was mentioned before but I just wanted to share this with you all. It's a good movie but what makes it better is hearing Moby on the background. kool! Lataz! Marisa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) I heard Moby! Date: 17 Sep 1999 23:57:11 -0400 Really Run On was in that movie? I thought it was Porcelain? I havent seen the movie, so I dont know for sure, just curious. Eric > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of MCJCREW@aol.com > Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 11:19 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) I heard Moby! > > > Hi all! > > Today I popped a movie in my vcr and surprise surprise who do I > hear, Moby! > The movie is Playing by Heart and the song Run On. I don't know > if this was > mentioned before but I just wanted to share this with you all. > It's a good > movie but what makes it better is hearing Moby on the background. kool! > > Lataz! > > Marisa > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MCJCREW@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) I heard Moby! Date: 18 Sep 1999 00:03:59 EDT Hi Eric! I'm pretty sure that it was Run On unless I'm mistaken...hmmm now you got me thinkin.. Marisa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ehohpo Subject: (mobility) Urbal Beats Volume 3 Date: 18 Sep 1999 00:32:30 -0600 Howdy everyone: While I was out shopping tonight I saw a new compilation called "Urbal Beats Volume 3" and lo and behold, it has "Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?" on it! While it appears that this is just the lp version (there are some remixes of other artists' songs on it) it IS cool because it is more exposure for "Play." Peace. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beejo Subject: Re: (mobility) Urbal Beats Volume 3 Date: 18 Sep 1999 03:17:52 -0400 yeah Urbal 2 had a Go mix on the 2nd disk of early 90s technotunes. they do good work, those Urb folk. cheers, bj ehohpo wrote: > Howdy everyone: > > While I was out shopping tonight I saw a new compilation called "Urbal > Beats Volume 3" and lo and behold, it has "Why Does My Heart Feel So > Bad?" on it! While it appears that this is just the lp version (there > are some remixes of other artists' songs on it) it IS cool because it is > more exposure for "Play." > > Peace. -- ALWAYS the important thing is the obvious thing that nobody is saying ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "markus wollina" Subject: (mobility) moby in berlin Date: 18 Sep 1999 08:00:05 PDT Moby will be playing live in Berlin on August 8th. Is there anyone on this list who will be going there? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) Moby on Letterman Date: 18 Sep 1999 11:34:00 -0400 Moby is listed to be on Letterman on October 14 according to Rock On TV (www.rockontv.com/coming.html). Thought everyone would want to know. Keith NP - Dead Can Dance - Cantara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy! Date: 18 Sep 1999 15:14:25 EDT i got 30 with delivery and all ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby in berlin Date: 18 Sep 1999 15:21:02 EDT sorry...all the way on the other side of the world....i wish i was going but i will wait until: OCTOBER 28 AT THE ROXYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mobyee@aol.com Subject: (mobility) bodyrock Date: 19 Sep 1999 03:27:54 EDT well i was at a "party" friday in detroit, and low and behold what do i hear but the dj playing bodyrock. i was very proud of how the dj spun it to the point that i found my friends and had to tell them MOBY. which reminds me...when MOBY played in detroit a little bit a go he dedicated Go to all the originators of Techno (makes you wonder if derreck may was in the crowd) ~e*E~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) bodyrock Date: 19 Sep 1999 14:45:40 EDT I saw Moby the Thursday the 16th in St petersburg Florida Igot soooooooooo many good pictures and also got to meet him it was so great.he is such a humble guy! soif anybody wants to see a few good pictures email me! thanks Amy - Srgldnhair@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "schnippy" Subject: (mobility) Moby returning to Washington D.C. Date: 19 Sep 1999 16:27:13 -0500 I just got back from the Ultraworld "Sunrise" pawty (anyone else there?) and they announced their lineup for ENGAGE on November 27th. Moby is headlining their main stage with a special D.J. set and they are holding it in the D.C. armory (capacity 10,000). Tickets are on sale now until Nov. 1 for $30, after that for $35, at the door $40. Age limit is 18 and it runs from noon to 11:00 p.m. with the typical Ultraworld after-pawty somewhere else.. http://www.ultraworld.net/engage.htm Looking forward to it. -schnippy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby returning to Washington D.C. Date: 19 Sep 1999 17:40:16 EDT oh man..how was that party this weekend....i did not have the money to go but a bunch of my friends from up here ( new jersey) went down....i'm definitely going to make plans to go next time, specially if moby is going to be there..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Singletary Subject: (mobility) videos Date: 20 Sep 1999 01:59:20 -0500 wow, what a weird day... i just saw moby's 'bodyrock' video and bjork's 'all is full of love' video on mtv. very surprising! -- __ Jon icq: 21047350 jwsingle@uiuc.edu http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/ {{{{{my artwork online} __ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) videos Date: 20 Sep 1999 11:48:55 -0400 > i just saw moby's 'bodyrock' video and bjork's 'all is full of love' > video on mtv. wow! really? on what show or whatever they call em? I was just thinking there is no real time when they show real videos? TRL is for people who like pop music and have a short attention span. and the rest of mtvs time seems to be stupid shows. was it amp or 120mins? i need to start setting my vcr. im hoping to catch the new nin video, if its ever shown. or even a moby video for once! eric gold@netrox.net http://www.tonematrix.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) videos Date: 20 Sep 1999 13:43:29 EDT i heard that they play both bodyrock videos late at night...like 2 or 3 am. my friend has seen them ...but i have stayed up a few nights waiting for them and they never come on!!!! the only thing i have seen is the commercial for MTV where they play Moby and a thing on MTVNEWS where moby is talking about why he decided to make another bodyrock video :( i think they need to play it!!! :( Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) videos Date: 20 Sep 1999 14:08:38 -0700 They only play them on Sunday Night/Monday Mornings when 120 minutes and AMP is on -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of SrGldnHair@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 10:43 AM i heard that they play both bodyrock videos late at night...like 2 or 3 am. my friend has seen them ...but i have stayed up a few nights waiting for them and they never come on!!!! the only thing i have seen is the commercial for MTV where they play Moby and a thing on MTVNEWS where moby is talking about why he decided to make another bodyrock video i think they need to play it!!! :( Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) fuq mtv! Date: 20 Sep 1999 12:04:04 -0700 (PDT) well it seems that MTV has taken BODYROCK out of rotation, its not on the TRL list anymore. if thhey had actually PLAYED it, maybe people wouldve seen it dammit! you suck MTV!!!!! when the hell is S&O cummin back on!?!?!?!? i need my socks dammit!!!!!!!!!! right, anyway TMBG IS PLAYING TOADS next month wooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and MONTY PYTHON is now gonna be shown on A&E saturday nights at 11even PM eastern! ROCK!!!!!!! if you have never seen python, and you get A&E, PLEASE!!!! watch this!!!!!!! it is just so awesome! python rule, they are the best thing ever to exist in the 70's! rock! k bye now! "i've found a new friend underneath my pillow!" TMBG === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dale" Subject: Re: (mobility) fuq mtv! Date: 20 Sep 1999 13:54:34 -0600 Sifl & Olly NEWS Sifl & Olly are currently not on the air, but MTV has asked for more episodes. These episodes will be made available for download on MTV.COM. MTV has told us they plan to re-air all of Seasons 1 and 2 as a promotion for the online programming. Check back here for details! thats the word from www.sifl-n-olly.com P.L.U.R. -dale- Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/prixfix/ goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou .. -me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david chamberlain Subject: (mobility) MOby in UK, new single, etc Date: 20 Sep 1999 16:02:01 -0400 Hey guys check this out http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990920164809.html see ya dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Singletary Subject: (mobility) Re: videos Date: 20 Sep 1999 16:38:18 -0500 "IBLIS The Ultraviolet }()+" wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Jonathan Singletary wrote: > > > wow, what a weird day... > > > > i just saw moby's 'bodyrock' video and bjork's 'all is full of love' > > video on mtv. > > > > very surprising! > > > I'm presuming you're referring to last night's AMP. Decent enough show > (a few trippy vids or one Bjork vid is enough to make it worthwhile in my > view, even though I already had AIFOL taped); apart from some moron in or > near my building turning something on that sent interfering static across > almost every channel during the first half it was ok. Luckily it finally > quit just as the Moby video was starting. > Interesting also to have the Howie B and the Bjork videos right next to > each other too, since they are/were an item. > > iblis }()+ yep, you're right... i just got my tv working last night, i turn it on , and wow! there's AMP! i don't think i have seen AMP in like 2 years... ever since they moved it to the current weird time. i didn't see the howie b video, but the moby video is just so funny. i love it. (more than the song, unfortunately :P) i think he saw fatboy slim's 'praise you' video and decided to go bare bones with his too. -- __ Jon icq: 21047350 jwsingle@uiuc.edu http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/ {{{{{my artwork online} __ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Singletary Subject: (mobility) mtv sucks for music watching Date: 20 Sep 1999 17:02:03 -0500  
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From: SrGldnHair@aol.com
Subject: Re: (mobility) videos

i heard that they play both bodyrock videos late at night...like 2 or 3 am.
my friend has seen them ...but i have stayed up a few nights waiting for them
and they never come on!!!! the only thing i have seen is the commercial for
MTV
>

exactly!    i saw the video at like 2 am.  it was on 'AMP', mtv's techno show.    i used to watch AMP, but they moved it to an awful time slot now, so that was like the first time i had seen it in like 2 years.   and i turned it on by accident, and saw those 2 videos!

but what i think about mtv is that they are good for everything except music.  i love their shows: sifl n olly, tom green, real world, etc.  but their videos are complete bullshit, and i don't even expect to see anything good anymore.   that's why when i saw moby and bjork, i was so surprised.
--
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Jon

icq: 21047350
jwsingle@uiuc.edu
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/ {{{{{my artwork online}
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  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "April Kincaid" Subject: Re: (mobility) videos Date: 20 Sep 1999 15:41:27 PDT I also saw the bodyrock video... I dug it.... it wasn't all special effects like... >From: Jonathan Singletary >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: "BEP-L@UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE" , >"mobility@lists.xmission.com" >Subject: (mobility) videos >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:59:20 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Mon Sep 20 00:00:19 1999 >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1)id >11SxPa-0002ZU-00for mobility-goout@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 >00:58:54 -0600 >Received: from [128.174.5.106] (helo=ux12.cso.uiuc.edu ident=root)by >lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1)id 11SxPX-0002ZP-00for >mobility@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:58:51 -0600 >Received: from uiuc.edu (far2212.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.217.140])by >ux12.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26444;Mon, 20 Sep 1999 >01:58:38 -0500 (CDT) >Message-ID: <37E5DB48.CBBF1BB2@uiuc.edu> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) >X-Accept-Language: en >Sender: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >X-No-Archive: yes > >wow, what a weird day... > >i just saw moby's 'bodyrock' video and bjork's 'all is full of love' >video on mtv. > >very surprising! > >-- >__ > >Jon > >icq: 21047350 >jwsingle@uiuc.edu >http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/ {{{{{my artwork online} >__ > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) In the Closet Date: 20 Sep 1999 19:36:53 -0500 Oh My GAWD! I don't know whether to be happy or disgusted. "Bodyrock" just showed up as the new theme song for the new season of the incredibly vapid sit-com "Veronica's Closet" starring the increasingly unfunny and, now, blond Kirstie Alley (although she was good in "Silver, Nevada", but not in "Drop Dead Gorgeous." Good exposure, I guess. But it could be on a better show. BSC (who is now changing the channel) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 21 Sep 1999 13:57:12 +1200 I just converted another one of my friends into a Moby Machine. I luv it. She was going nuts with issues lately and so I sat her down and made her listen to In the Blue, My Weakness, Hymn, and Everything Is Wrong. It was so powerful that she started to Cry. She said that the musik was haunting and then she said, and get this, "It is Soooooooo True" "whats True" I asked. We were playing Everything Is Wrong at the time. "This world is so fucked up. I can hear this guy talking to me through the tunes. It's like God is watching down on us with his head in his hands, saying where did I go wrong. And this musik is the soundtrack." The scary thing is that she didn't even know the name of the song or the album. When I told her she told me to get out of town, so I showed her the cover to prove it and she fell in love with it. She is more happy now than I have ever seen her. It's like she is more focused now. Moby I Thank You Soooo Much. Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 21 Sep 1999 00:17:01 EDT joe that was such a great email :) thanks for sharing Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Could it be? Date: 21 Sep 1999 09:30:04 +0200 Hi there everybody! David Chamberlain, posted a link about WDMHFSB on the list and this is what it said: >The track - taken from current album 'Play' out now on Mute - is available on two CD >formats, one including remixes by ATB, Ferry Corsten and Subsonic, Ok, we knew this.... (great remixers!) I guess the Faithless and Sharp Boys remixes are promo-only, or for the 12"..(?) >the other with new tracks 'Flying Foxes' and 'Princess' and the >video for 'Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad?'. Do I read this right? YESSSSSSS the video on CD!!! I guess it will be in crappy .mov format (since Moby uses a Mac) but still, whoooohoooo, that would be nice! Just wondering... can a Mac read Mpeg movies? And I already love the titles of the b-sides!! :) (<>,,<>) np: Air - Ce matin la ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) amp Date: 21 Sep 1999 04:27:12 -0700 (PDT) did amp play the new bodyrock video? or did they play the Phizzo Jobson, dance contest one? which one did they just play???????? what was the new CHEMS video like? right, bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) photo! Date: 21 Sep 1999 04:28:28 -0700 (PDT) oh yeah, that NME photo was shocking! ahhhh! im at school here! give me a break moby!!! ;l) i gotta go bye! === "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Hickey" Subject: Re: (mobility) videos Date: 21 Sep 1999 16:38:37 GMT Guys you think MTV in the States is bad....... ?? You should see what we've got ot put up with in Europe........ !!!! Absolutly awful. >From: "April Kincaid" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) videos >Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:41:27 PDT > >I also saw the bodyrock video... I dug it.... it wasn't all special effects >like... > > >>From: Jonathan Singletary >>Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >>To: "BEP-L@UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE" , >>"mobility@lists.xmission.com" >>Subject: (mobility) videos >>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:59:20 -0500 >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>From owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Mon Sep 20 00:00:19 1999 >>Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1)id >>11SxPa-0002ZU-00for mobility-goout@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 >>00:58:54 -0600 >>Received: from [128.174.5.106] (helo=ux12.cso.uiuc.edu ident=root)by >>lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1)id 11SxPX-0002ZP-00for >>mobility@lists.xmission.com; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:58:51 -0600 >>Received: from uiuc.edu (far2212.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.217.140])by >>ux12.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26444;Mon, 20 Sep 1999 >>01:58:38 -0500 (CDT) >>Message-ID: <37E5DB48.CBBF1BB2@uiuc.edu> >>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) >>X-Accept-Language: en >>Sender: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com >>Precedence: bulk >>X-No-Archive: yes >> >>wow, what a weird day... >> >>i just saw moby's 'bodyrock' video and bjork's 'all is full of love' >>video on mtv. >> >>very surprising! >> >>-- >>__ >> >>Jon >> >>icq: 21047350 >>jwsingle@uiuc.edu >>http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle/ {{{{{my artwork online} >>__ >> >> >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kalienfuelchica@aol.com Subject: (mobility) bodyrock video Date: 21 Sep 1999 14:34:12 EDT hello i just got an update from this music video site and they have the bodyrock video newly added, go to this site if you wanna check it out! http://www.musicvideos.com then search for moby, oh yeah, you have to sign up for the site first but it only takes a few secs and its free! =) later everyone. kalee..aka...Kalien...aka..The Goddess of Rock MusiK FUEL SITE: IT'S COME TO THIS: http://welcome.to/itscome2this VIRGOS MERLOT SITE: vampire monkeys: http://www.angelfire.com/me2/VIRGOSMERLOT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "April Kincaid" Subject: (mobility) HELLO ALL YOU SEXY PEOPLE Date: 21 Sep 1999 16:56:46 PDT ok.. HOwdy and here it is.... HI I'm april and I got to know moby from my best friend Rob who is also on this list.. (hi rob) anyway.... I was told by rob that I had to go see moby at his dallas show, so I figured what the hell and I went out and bought Play... I totally got into it.... I loved the whole thing.. I really dug all Moby's essays... it was great..I was getting totally excited and I couldn't wait... but as fate would have it... I didn't get to go to the dallas show.. I was pretty sad,, but the gods shined down on me and I got to go to the show in St. Louis... It was the most awesome thing I have ever experienced...It was no less than a religous experience...To top off my evening.. I got to meet moby before the show and after.. After the show I went to tell Moby thanks and HE GAVE ME A HUG AND KISS....... I almost fell over on him....it was great.... the whole show was so intense.. I've never felt anything like it... crazy it is something.. I will see again... no matter what...... so hi everyone..woooooooo fun and thanks if you read this far..... kisses for the world, april ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pokey8984@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) HELLO ALL YOU SEXY PEOPLE Date: 21 Sep 1999 20:06:41 EDT In a message dated 9/21/99 6:59:07 PM Central Daylight Time, superfreak3@hotmail.com writes: > kisses for the world, > > april thank you for the kiss april :) made my day-later ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) HELLO ALL YOU SEXY PEOPLE Date: 21 Sep 1999 20:33:18 EDT > kisses for the world, > > april thank you april :) glad to hear about your good experience!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nemesis Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #131 Date: 21 Sep 1999 23:37:56 -0400 Okay, stop PATRONIZING us about your little show! It has NOTHING to do with Moby, nor Moby's ethics, NOTHING! It's just propaganda for MTV. If I wanted to read commercials I would look elsewhere, not mobility. If I were to say the same thing about some other product (then that show) perhaps it would appear even more clearly to you that it is PROPAGANDA and ADVERTISING and that you are doing them a service by promoting it (they're the ones ultimately laughing to the bank) For example: "Coke is bringing back cherry sprite! It has a lovely fresh flavour and zing! Just for you Coke is producing a whole new FLAVOUR and increasing distribution across the world" (this example is bogus, but illustrates my point) > Sifl & Olly NEWS > > Sifl & Olly are currently not on the air, but MTV has asked for more > episodes. These episodes will be made available for download on MTV.COM. > > MTV has told us they plan to re-air all of Seasons 1 and 2 as a promotion > for the online programming. Check back here for details! > > thats the word from www.sifl-n-olly.com > > P.L.U.R. -dale- > Prixfix@dreamscape.com www.mp3.com/prixfix/ > goingintosubmissiontryingtoenjoytheslowridedowntofulleffectofthethoughtofyou > .. > - -me > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) JSBX Remix Date: 21 Sep 1999 21:14:03 PDT sup, been away for a while, so here goes... in case you didn't already no, Moby has done a new remix for JSBX, it's on there new remix album called "Acme Plus", some other really good remixes on there... ...must say, thank you Moby for sharing eith us about what your doing with tha money from tha Calvin Klein add, simply beautiful... what is this i here about a PLAY remix album?!?!? ...one more thing, for those in tha Toronto area, or as a matter of fact anywhere near a big city, on October 2nd, the Goa/psy-trance community are throwing a party called EARTHDANCE, it is to raise awareness of the sad situation in TIBET and all human misfortunes, the proceeds all go to the tibet house, truely thee most beautiful party experience, for more info. email me or check out www.earthdance99.com... peace to all djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: (mobility) my weakness remix Date: 22 Sep 1999 00:17:12 -0400 if anyone is interested, I did a remix of "My Weakness". It eventually will hopefully be on the Thanks 2 compilation. So if you want to hear the real audio version of it, go to http://www.tonematrix.com and click on audio. and in case you havent heard the other remixes and one sort of cover, theyre also there. (myopia, etiw, gmotfotw) thanks eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: (mobility) earthdance (was: Re: JSBX Remix) Date: 21 Sep 1999 22:40:14 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, trance former wrote: > ...one more thing, for those in tha Toronto area, or as a matter of fact > anywhere near a big city, on October 2nd, the Goa/psy-trance community are > throwing a party called EARTHDANCE, it is to raise awareness of the sad > situation in TIBET and all human misfortunes, the proceeds all go to the > tibet house, truely thee most beautiful party experience, for more info. > email me or check out www.earthdance99.com... Yes! Earthdance! Last years event in Seattle was AMAZING! (and to add a bit of moby'ness to this post) - I think Moby doing an ambient/chill set for one of these parties would be spectacular! I am sooooo looking forward to Earthdance this year (it's so cool that it is always on my birthday weekend...whoohoo! :)). It always starts early early in the evening (so that we are able to play the Prayer for Peace synchronized track) and goes way way into the next day. It was such a warm, lovely party last year..with no bad elements or sketchiness at all...i can't wait and i hope a bunch of you get to experience such a great event also. Oh and the website for it is actually http://www.earthdance.org. sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html ._._._._.uncertainty excites me, baby._._._._. _._._.who knows what's going to happen?._._._ ._._._._._._.lottery or car crash._._._._._._. _._._._._._.or you'll join a cult._._._._._._ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRDYM77@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) HELLO ALL YOU SEXY PEOPLE Date: 22 Sep 1999 03:02:29 EDT lucky bitch ;} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 22 Sep 1999 20:19:38 +1200 Allo Allo All. Just thought I should bug you sum more with a question thats been on my mind for sum time. Is Moby going to release another I Like To Score, cause it gives the impression that he will? Probably not in the near futrue then if he is going to release a Play Remix. Air's new album must be due soon is it? I heard their first single and it is pretty cool. The video is a bit wierd but what can ya do aye? One other thing, did you guys out there do a tribute album or something and if so how can I get my grubby little hands on it? Spot ya later alligator. Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk Subject: (mobility) back on mobility Date: 22 Sep 1999 14:41:00 MET Hello to everybody! after a long hot summer i'm at school again, thus i have re-joined this great list. it's gonna take some time until i realize what happened while i was off and find my former place here, but i'm already looking forward to it. during this holiday i was in germany and came across a moby poster in a cd shop. gee.. it is my first (and i guess the last too) moby poster, it's an advertisment for the PLAY album and it shows the cover. it cost 3,- DM, what is an amazingly low price for a poster in my home country. Does somebody has any spare moby posters ? from shows, albums etc... . i know, that in the A.R. booklet, there is a photo of some street somewhere (i guess ) in NYC, and one of the walls is covered with EIW posters. the merchandising conditions for foreign countries are quite unacceptable, so if anyone could help.... surely i'll pay (if necessary :-) ). hello to all new members, hello to all the old ones, hello to me and hello to moby ! yours KOHUT. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) remove help Date: 22 Sep 1999 08:42:00 -0400 hi, I switched email providers and lost the file which described how to remove oneself from the list. Can anyone please send me the instructions? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: RE: (mobility) back on mobility Date: 22 Sep 1999 09:11:56 -0400 Holy shit...someone with my last name! How random is that. Don't think we're related, 'cuz my only relatives are either in Chicago (mom, 2 sisters) and a few cousins and an and uncle in the Czech Republic. Also, in the movie "Election" there was the teacher who bonked Reese Witherspoon. His name was Dave Novotny. He was fired and ended up working in a grocery store (hope I don't suffer such a fate). See ya! Joe Novotny -----Original Message----- [mailto:Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:41 AM Hello to everybody! after a long hot summer i'm at school again, thus i have re-joined this great list. it's gonna take some time until i realize what happened while i was off and find my former place here, but i'm already looking forward to it. during this holiday i was in germany and came across a moby poster in a cd shop. gee.. it is my first (and i guess the last too) moby poster, it's an advertisment for the PLAY album and it shows the cover. it cost 3,- DM, what is an amazingly low price for a poster in my home country. Does somebody has any spare moby posters ? from shows, albums etc... . i know, that in the A.R. booklet, there is a photo of some street somewhere (i guess ) in NYC, and one of the walls is covered with EIW posters. the merchandising conditions for foreign countries are quite unacceptable, so if anyone could help.... surely i'll pay (if necessary :-) ). hello to all new members, hello to all the old ones, hello to me and hello to moby ! yours KOHUT. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) back on mobility + My weakness Date: 22 Sep 1999 15:50:59 +0200 Matej Novotny wrote: >after a long hot summer i'm at school again, thus i have re-joined this >great list. it's gonna take some time until i realize what happened while >i was off and find my former place here, but i'm already looking forward >to it. It's not been very busy when you were gone... We haven't had a good old flame war in ages... Oh, but Moby posted 2 messages to Mobility on Sept. the 15th. were you already back on the list at that time? If not, mail me at eijck@iae.nl and I'll forward them to you if you want. Here, for you to catch up, are some events/dates: - September 11th. => Moby's birthday - October 11th. => Release of Moby's new single WDMHFSB in the UK (and the rest of Europe I suppose...) - December 25th. => Christmas - spring of 2000 => plans are to release Play Remixed then. - summer of 2000 => Paul Yates' film called 'Porno' will be playing in the US then. In this film Moby will play his guitar with 2 dildos strapped to his head. :) Welcome back! Hey Eric, I LOOOOVE your remix of My Weakness. (at www.tonematrix.com ) It's difficult to do a good remix without fucking up the original too much, and you did it perfectly! This one should defenately be on Thanks 2 (if there's ever going to be a second volume... Greg are you still on Mobility?) (<>,,<>) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) EARTHDANCE Date: 22 Sep 1999 07:08:19 PDT thanx sarah for tha correct address, it dawned at me after tha fact...and yes it would be brilliant if Moby was involved with EARTHDANCE, doing a chill out set or ambience... peace to all djAHIMSA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Singletary Subject: (mobility) moby n chemicals Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:56:06 -0500 yo paul the new chem bros video ('out of control', you mean right??) was like news footage of a riot. kind of scary. and the bodyrock video they showed was indeed the phizzzo jobson one! =) -- __ Jon icq: 21047350 phone: 332.5128 jwsingle@uiuc.edu http://surf.to/jon144k {{{{{my artwork online} __ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Hickey" Subject: Re: (mobility) JSBX Remix Date: 22 Sep 1999 16:05:14 GMT Hi trance former Nice to see the Tibet issue is being raised again...... Keep up the good work. Kenny >From: "trance former" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (mobility) JSBX Remix >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:14:03 PDT > >sup, > >been away for a while, so here goes... > >in case you didn't already no, Moby has done a new remix for JSBX, it's on >there new remix album called "Acme Plus", some other really good remixes on >there... > >...must say, thank you Moby for sharing eith us about what your doing with >tha money from tha Calvin Klein add, simply beautiful... > >what is this i here about a PLAY remix album?!?!? > >...one more thing, for those in tha Toronto area, or as a matter of fact >anywhere near a big city, on October 2nd, the Goa/psy-trance community are >throwing a party called EARTHDANCE, it is to raise awareness of the sad >situation in TIBET and all human misfortunes, the proceeds all go to the >tibet house, truely thee most beautiful party experience, for more info. >email me or check out www.earthdance99.com... > >peace to all > >djAHIMSA > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: (mobility) Tom Green AGAIN Date: 22 Sep 1999 9:32:42 -0700 Here's a little postscript on the Tom Green hoopla that blew through this list awhile ago: There's a picture of Tom Green AND MOBY at the KROQ website! Deemo np: Tone Matrix's My Weakness ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danny legare Subject: (mobility) alumni Date: 22 Sep 1999 10:03:59 -0700 wow- it's been awhile since i've posted. i used to be a regular for about a year- now..... seems like the crowd is different, a lot of cool new Moby fans....welcome to this awesome forum! believe you can make some pretty awesome friends this way. but only if you don't expect it.... October 18th is the day for WDMHFSB- the ferry corsten mix will probably be another one of his epic weeper remixes that have kids and adults crying and hugging on the dancefloor. his remixes are of those kind. ATB- that should be interesting- i'm almost getting sick of 9pm (till i come)...and the rollo mix-where will that one end up? how long will moby be on tour for? i know he is going to be in the UK for a tour coinciding with the single.... okay just wanted to poke my head inside - Have fun! Cheers, Danny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "courtney colonna" Subject: (mobility) homework-personal info Date: 22 Sep 1999 13:07:04 PDT as assigned, here is some info about me (i am a new subscriber)... name: courtney colonna age: 23 i can't decide on a favorite song/album because they're all diverse and amazing. other music i like: stereolab, prodigy, lush, etc. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MartinC1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby in London Date: 22 Sep 1999 19:05:00 EDT Hi Everyone. Just had the sheer pleasure of seeing the man live. He was absolutely brilliant as everyone who has said so in the U.S. Me and my girlfriend arrived about hour and half early and went past this chap in glasses who looked like Moby from the back of his head. He passed me and I got a good look at him and yes, it was him. Been a typical English bloke (reserved) I did not have the wits about me to say anything. Ten minutes later, he was coming straight at us, and I bit the bullet and said some real embarrassing things like ' I think you are a genius and I love your music'. He was really nice about me been totally embrassed and said don't be embarrassed and we talked a bit. I said that I belong to the mobility list and he said that he does not have much time always to get online, but yes it's diffidently him who sends his messages to Dan. I said that I really like the Voodoo Child album and he said that his favourite album as well. I asked him what is he going to do next and he said that he wants to do something with his 'B' sides. I asked him if he was going to tour with Eurythmics and he said he's heard about these rumours but he does'nt think so. He said that he also liked early Eurythmics records. We talked for a few minutes and then he had to go and do some interviews. We later saw Daniel Miller (Mute Record Boss) at the concert at well. The venue was totally sold out and the ticket touts were trying to buy tickets when we went in. Moby made the whole audience laugh when he said that his Manager always gets cold sweat everytime he reaches for a guitar, in case he does another 'punk album'. He done a brilliant acoustic version of 'Run On' where he sang all the vocal himself with guitar. I took my girlfriend who doesn't mind Moby music playing in the background. She is now s total devotee who thinks the man is a total genius (he is!). If anyone who hasn't seen him, but has a chance, go for it. He is one of the best concerts I have ever been to. Thanks Moby!. Martin C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Could it be? Date: 22 Sep 1999 21:07:41 -0500 >I guess it will be in crappy .mov format (since Moby uses a Mac) but still, >whoooohoooo, that would be nice! Just wondering... can a Mac read Mpeg >movies? With QuickTime installed, yes. -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Clark Subject: (mobility) L'adresse de Moby Date: 22 Sep 1999 22:12:16 -0400 So do we assume that beacwork@aol.com is the Man's address, and that he actually reads (and maybe even responds to) his snatchmail there? -- Joe Clark joeclark@theBRML.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ameesh Makadia" Subject: (mobility) ftp site?? Date: 22 Sep 1999 22:59:56 -0400 I was wondering... what ever happened to the Moby mp3's that someone was trying to find an ftp site for... are they up anywhere??? Later Kraftwerk RULES!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) Re: moby n chemicals Date: 23 Sep 1999 04:17:46 -0700 (PDT) --- Jonathan Singletary wrote: > yo paul the new chem bros video ('out of control', > you mean right??) was > like news footage of a riot. kind of scary. wow. theylle probly play it again i suppose..... i mean its the chemicals right? > and the bodyrock video they showed was indeed the > phizzzo jobson one! > =) yup thats me! ;) BYE!!!! ===== "I liked the can...I could re-use it later as a can."-Chester on 1ne of his favorite cereals, RAISIN HELL SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) In the Closet Date: 21 Sep 1999 11:01:06 -0700 > > > >I don't know whether to be happy or disgusted. "Bodyrock" just showed up as > >the new theme song for the new season of the incredibly vapid sit-com > >"Veronica's Closet" starring the increasingly unfunny and, now, blond > >Kirstie Alley > Ew, no! I agree, that is the dumbest show, next to Tom Green. :-P God, why? Why not a better show? Why not something cool? > > >Good exposure, I guess. But it could be on a better show. Agreed! --kimby > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk Subject: Re: (mobility) L'adresse de Moby Date: 23 Sep 1999 14:32:19 MET I don't think it's a good idea to tell all the fans to write emails directly to moby's mailbox. imagine what amount of mails it could be. and surely a lot of them will ask the same or similar questions. this makes anyone annoyed, i mean reading the same all the time or, god save moby, answering it. i like the way moby sometimes posts something to mobility (like calming down the flamewar about gwen from no doubt, or about the sell-out djs), it always adds some new colour the the rich palette of this mailing list. so ? yours Kohut. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk Subject: Re: (mobility) back on mobility Date: 23 Sep 1999 14:32:43 MET thank you very much bart, especially for the events, i guess i'll check the archives of mobility out, if they work. (i hope so, because i find them important for people who come back (as me) or for the newcomers as well) pity, that the movie you mention will probably not find its way to my country, but nothing's sure. maybe some art cinema clubs. what kind of movie is that? > It's not been very busy when you were gone... We haven't had a good old > flame war in ages... Oh, but Moby posted 2 messages to Mobility on Sept. > the 15th. were you already back on the list at that time? If not, mail me > at > eijck@iae.nl and I'll forward them to you if you want. > Here, for you to catch up, are some events/dates: > > - September 11th. => Moby's birthday > - October 11th. => Release of Moby's new single WDMHFSB in the UK > (and the rest of Europe I suppose...) > - December 25th. => Christmas > - spring of 2000 => plans are to release Play Remixed then. > - summer of 2000 => Paul Yates' film called 'Porno' will be playing in > the US then. In this film Moby will > play his guitar > with 2 dildos strapped to his head. :) > > Welcome back! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in London Date: 23 Sep 1999 20:25:21 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:05:00 EDT MartinC1@aol.com wrote: > Ten minutes later, he was coming straight at us, and I bit the bullet and > said some real embarrassing things like ' I think you are a genius and I love > your music'. God, that happened to me as well. Two of my friends had already left after the gig and me and my best friend were waiting to get our gear back, when Moby and manager(?) starts walking toward us and out the main entrance. We were just leaving and some girls were hanging around him giving him hugs and kisses and, looking back, I wish I'd done the same...maybe not.., and all I could do was shake his hand and say something like, " great gig..excellent...nice one" and then walked off. He had a really genuine, beaming smile and was expecting a little more..I think.. but I can't believe I just walked off like that.... cool, or not cool, that is the question...? > > > The venue was totally sold out and the ticket touts were trying to buy > tickets when we went in. > > Moby made the whole audience laugh when he said that his Manager always gets > cold sweat everytime he reaches for a guitar, in case he does another 'punk > album'. > He said that last night as well. You went to the Tuesday night gig, right? There was one on Tues night wasn't there? Anyway, he handled some of the heckling pretty well and made everyone laugh too. When he asked if anybody wanted some punk, a few shouted out, and he reckoned somebody else wanted some metal, so the band did that Black Sabbath one, thrash-punk style, and a very amusing acoustic version of Anarchy in the U.K. Ciao, TMB. ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Orion Davis" Subject: (mobility) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:50:49 -0500 Date: 23 Sep 1999 13:44:26 -0600 Hey..I remember there was some discussion on the list a while back about where to get the Everything is Wrong Mixed and Remixed set... This was top of my list of things to find for quite a while, but I exhausted all me resources in Austin to find it...however...my sister is staying in London for a while, so I sent her a list of music I was looking for, with that at the top, and she found it at the first store she looked at...so the moral of this story is, anyone who's still actively looking for this, try ordering it from some place in the UK, or send one of your siblings to England like I did Now if she would stop listening to it, and actually mail it to me... Daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: (mobility) I'm back Date: 23 Sep 1999 15:53:24 -0400 Hi it's me Danielle the mobility-ite formerly known as dtlogue@syr.edu. I've taken a 3 month vacation from the list and I'm psyched to be back...I missed you guys, shniff shniff. Anyway, for those of you that don't know (which is probably all of you, I didn't really post that often), and the new members (welcome!), I'm a 22 year old legal secretary from Queens, finishing my RN degree. I like Bjork, Aphex Twin and others...I also saw the beginning of Veronica's Closet, and it made me sad. I can't specifically say why, but it effected me differently than when I heard his songs behind ads. Will BodyRock by the permanent opening song for this show or was it just for the premiere? If any of this is redundant I apologize in advance; I heard that Moby is doing a show Goldstein Student Center at Syracuse University (my alma mater) on Oct. 19. I also saw in the Village Voice, a local weekly paper, that Moby will be performing at the Roxy on Oct. 28. I couldn't get tickets for his show at the bowery ballroom this summer, if anyone wants to torture me about how awesome the show was, email me privately, I'd love to hear what I missed, sorta. Point being...On moby.org there are european shows posted for these dates. Can anyone clear this up for me? Those who remember Ryu..if anyone went to the recent Pitt show, the songs off the CD moby read were Ryu's. Thanks for reading this far and I'm glad to be back! Danielle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "April Kincaid" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in London Date: 23 Sep 1999 13:41:08 PDT Ha... MOBY HUGGED AND KISSED ME.. IT WAS GREAT >From: Tim Beecher >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in London >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:25:21 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Thu Sep 23 12:25:39 1999 >Received: from [198.60.22.7] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB9B3C9AF01ACD820F3A4C63C1607CEFE0; Thu Sep 23 12:25:39 1999 >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1)id >11UEUo-0006sn-00for mobility-goout@lists.xmission.com; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 >13:25:34 -0600 >Received: from [138.250.48.9] (helo=euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk)by >lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1)id 11UEUm-0006sX-00for >mobility@lists.xmission.com; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:25:32 -0600 >Received: from btnt007f.bio.cranfield.ac.uk ([138.250.36.7])by >euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1)id >11UEUk-0008Jt-00for mobility@lists.xmission.com; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:25:30 >+0100 >In-Reply-To: >Message-ID: >X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) >X-Authentication: none >Sender: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >X-No-Archive: yes > > >On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:05:00 EDT MartinC1@aol.com wrote: > > > > Ten minutes later, he was coming straight at us, and I bit the bullet >and > > said some real embarrassing things like ' I think you are a genius and I >love > > your music'. > >God, that happened to me as well. Two of my friends had >already left after the gig and me and my best friend were >waiting to get our gear back, when Moby and manager(?) >starts walking toward us and out the main entrance. We were >just leaving and some girls were hanging around him giving >him hugs and kisses and, looking back, I wish I'd done the >same...maybe not.., and all I could do was shake his hand >and say something like, " great gig..excellent...nice one" >and then walked off. He had a really genuine, beaming smile >and was expecting a little more..I think.. but I can't >believe I just walked off like that.... cool, or not cool, >that is the question...? > > > > > > > The venue was totally sold out and the ticket touts were trying to buy > > tickets when we went in. > > > > Moby made the whole audience laugh when he said that his Manager always >gets > > cold sweat everytime he reaches for a guitar, in case he does another >'punk > > album'. > > >He said that last night as well. You went to the Tuesday >night gig, right? There was one on Tues night wasn't >there? Anyway, he handled some of the heckling pretty well >and made everyone laugh too. When he asked if anybody >wanted some punk, a few shouted out, and he reckoned >somebody else wanted some metal, so the band did that Black >Sabbath one, thrash-punk style, and a very amusing acoustic >version of Anarchy in the U.K. > >Ciao, > >TMB. > >---------------------- >Tim Beecher >Cranfield University >T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) L'adresse de Moby Date: 23 Sep 1999 14:06:25 -0700 > >So do we assume that beacwork@aol.com is the Man's address, and that > >he actually reads (and maybe even responds to) his snatchmail there? > What makes you think that? Is there a thread that I missed? I dunno, I went back and read one of the emails from that adress, Blake's adress and the email was pretty not MOBY like. Why would he email the list and completely write an email from a difference persona?(RE: I know you might all still caste judgment on me but......... I live on ft myers beach fl, and moby is coming here Sept 14th. I have been a fan ever since his club days at the palladium (n.y.) where they shot club mtv...and the like.) I don't think it is him and if it is, he obviously doesn't want any one to bug him. I hope no one has sent mail to the about adress because they think it's MOBY's. I doubt that is is but again, if it is, don't bother the poor guy. --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: 23 Sep 1999 23:07:31 EDT I took a few of my friends to the Vanderbilt show last month (who had never even heard of Moby) and they too fell in love with him. They said it was the most awesome experience they had ever had. They're still thanking me to this day... ;) ~Vedaben~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) amp Date: 23 Sep 1999 23:07:53 EDT i don't watch MTV.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) videos Date: 23 Sep 1999 23:08:47 EDT Hey i thought MTV in Europe was better than this shit we have here. Then again, I haven't been there since last summer so its probably changed.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: 23 Sep 1999 23:12:43 EDT <> The Same thing happened to me! And I dont watch Mtv Ither..... ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Bodyrock and the Closet Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:27:03 +1200 All I have to say is that Veronica's closet is one of the worst shows out and it really sux that Moby's beautiful tunes can now be identified with it. It is going to be harder for new fans to really get into the musik as much as we do. People who hear Bodyrock are going to think of Veronica's Closet where as we would think of his awesome melodies. They won't associate Moby with Bodyrock. I know I'm paranoid but it is a huge pleasure for me to introduce people to his musik and I love the way that he changes their lives like he has mine. I want to share the feeling I spose. But the Black guy, Darryl something (Mitchell?), FUCK he is Funny. I use to love the John Larroquette show just because of him. Every cloud has a silver lining, maybe, probably not. Spot Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Bodyrock and the Closet Date: 23 Sep 1999 23:34:38 EDT Joe, thats hella true. But, another thing I'm worried about is if someone that has never hurd Mobys beautiful music before and goes and buys the album for that one song, and lisins to the whole thing, I'm shure they would have been expecting hip-hop or some shit. Then the would wave the cd in front of their friends faces going "Damn! Moby blows!" ......... That truly frightens me....... ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MartinC1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re: Moby in London Date: 24 Sep 1999 01:07:56 EDT In a message dated 23/09/99 21:43:27 GMT Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << He said that last night as well. You went to the Tuesday night gig, right? There was one on Tues night wasn't there? >> No Tim, the one on Tuesday was cancelled and I went the same night as you. In the U.S., did he sing 'Natural Blues' during his tour? as he sang this in London as main vocal over the female voice. <> Never went that far, but if I was a female I would ( As a bloke, a handshake will do), Martin C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk Subject: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 12:47:27 MET Can you imagine how envious i am, when i read your experiences with moby, his performances, or even hugs & kisses ? gee.. hopefully, someday i will have the same luck as you and one day we will all spent some time sharing our view and memories. btw. will please somebody let moby know, that there are some poor students here who don't have neither time nor money to check out all his new singles and therefore he could postpone the release of Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad until, let's say february 2003 ? i just bought run on extended and i again have no resources to buy at least bodyrock ! :-) but i like the idea, that moby plans to release a compilation of his Bsides. is that really going to happen ? got some new informations ? yours Kohut. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) In the Closet Date: 24 Sep 1999 06:28:08 -0700 (PDT) --- kimbalina wrote: > Ew, no! I agree, that is the dumbest show, > next to Tom Green. :-P God, why? Why not a > better show? Why not something cool? If it's any help, it was being used for some Dharma & Greg commercials. :) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 24 Sep 1999 06:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Yes, mom. I'll do my homework... Name: DJ Pagan Age: 21 What is in your Moby collection: (Self-titled) Ambient Drop a Beat Rare - The Collected B-Sides Go Remix Collection A Go promo disk The Story So Far EIW EIW - Remixed Hymn - 2CD UK Into the Blue - 2CD UK Feeling So Real Feeling So Real - 2CD UK Everytime You Touch Me Move EP Come on Baby - UK Revolver - 2CD UK Animal Right UK (w/ Little Idiot) I Like to Score James Bond Theme UK Play Honey - 2CD UK & Promo Run On - 2CD UK & Promo Bodyrock - 2CD UK Honey/Run On Bodyrock The End of Everything Dog Heaven Where you first heard Moby: A buddy brought over EIW, and I fell in love with Hymn. Then I got the import for Hymn... and loved it even more. :) How much of a fan you are: This is an odd question. I could say I'm his number one fan, but I'm not. I respect the man more than the music, but he can turn a show out like few. I enjoy his music very much. As a fan, per se... I'm not a very good one. :) Other artists you like: Bill Whelan, Enya, Deep Forest, B-Tribe, Underworld, Orbital, Paul Van Dyk, Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, John Digweed, Fatboy Slim, BT, Fluke, Tori Amos, Soul Coughing, Jane Siberry, FSOL... to name a FEW! Any other interesting information you wish to share: Not at the present time... ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 07:04:30 -0700 (PDT) --- Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk wrote: > btw. will please somebody let moby know, that > there are some poor students here who don't > have neither time nor money to check out all > his new singles and therefore he could > postpone the release of Why Does My Heart > Feel So Bad until, let's say february 2003? No, because I *CAN* afford to buy it! :) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 24 Sep 1999 07:06:25 -0700 (PDT) --- DJ Pagan wrote: > What is in your Moby collection: I forgot Bring Back My Happiness. :) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 09:55:52 -0400 ooooh, that's harsh. I have trouble keeping up with the singles too. Especially when your trying to collect singles and cds of his from a long time ago. Couldn't he give mobility a discount or something? =] Mobility VIP card - everywhere you want to be? Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: DJ Pagan [SMTP:djpagan@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:05 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) just2postsumthing > > --- Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk wrote: > > btw. will please somebody let moby know, that > > there are some poor students here who don't > > have neither time nor money to check out all > > his new singles and therefore he could > > postpone the release of Why Does My Heart > > Feel So Bad until, let's say february 2003? > > No, because I *CAN* afford to buy it! :) > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robyniwitz@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte Date: 24 Sep 1999 10:17:27 EDT Hello all. My name is Robyn Shepherd, and I'm an 18-year-old NYU student. I'll confess up front that I am a very new Moby fan, and don't claim to possess a whole heckuva lot of knowledge beyond what is easily found on the web, but I hope to know much, much more. I first saw and heard Moby at a taping of the Conan O'Brien show in July and my interest was piqued enough to attend an all-NYU concert at Irving Plaza earlier this month--let's say that I was completely charmed, smitten, and otherwise knocked for a loop. The more I learned about him and the more I heard him the more I liked it, so I inevitably signed up to this list. I probably won't be saying much as I continue to educate myself, but I just wanted to say hello. And could you tell me the best place to see Moby videos? Continuous watching of MTV2 has only yielded one Bodyrock video. Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte Date: 24 Sep 1999 10:25:01 -0400 Welcome to the list! I'm so jealous you were able to see the Irving Plaza show! I couldn't get tix he was sold out. Please email me and tell me how the show was, I'm dying to know! Will you be going to his Oct. 28 show at the Roxy? Is anybody going to this show? Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyniwitz@aol.com [SMTP:Robyniwitz@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:17 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte > > Hello all. My name is Robyn Shepherd, and I'm an 18-year-old NYU > student. > I'll confess up front that I am a very new Moby fan, and don't claim > to > possess a whole heckuva lot of knowledge beyond what is easily found > on the > web, but I hope to know much, much more. I first saw and heard Moby > at a > taping of the Conan O'Brien show in July and my interest was piqued > enough to > attend an all-NYU concert at Irving Plaza earlier this month--let's > say that > I was completely charmed, smitten, and otherwise knocked for a loop. > The > more I learned about him and the more I heard him the more I liked it, > so I > inevitably signed up to this list. I probably won't be saying much as > I > continue to educate myself, but I just wanted to say hello. And could > you > tell me the best place to see Moby videos? Continuous watching of > MTV2 has > only yielded one Bodyrock video. > > Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: RE: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 08:01:35 -0700 (PDT) --- Danielle Logue wrote: > Especially when your trying to collect > singles and cds of his from a long time ago. Ebay has been the place to be for me, actually. I've picked up some really cheap stuff off there from his earlier days. Also, try... www.music1search.com ...to search around for his earlier stuff and import stuff at semi-reasonable prices. ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 11:19:26 -0400 Thanks...I'll give it a try... when I have money.... d > -----Original Message----- > From: DJ Pagan [SMTP:djpagan@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 11:02 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (mobility) just2postsumthing > > --- Danielle Logue wrote: > > Especially when your trying to collect > > singles and cds of his from a long time ago. > > Ebay has been the place to be for me, actually. > I've picked up some really cheap stuff off there > from his earlier days. Also, try... > > www.music1search.com > > ...to search around for his earlier stuff and > import stuff at semi-reasonable prices. > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: (mobility) Anyone have the track lists to WDMHFSB? Date: 24 Sep 1999 08:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Hey all! Anyone have the tracklistings for WDMHFSB releases? I've been diligently going to www.moby.org, but they haven't been posted yet. Help a brutha out! :) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 24 Sep 1999 09:07:37 -0700 welcome DJ Pagan! i love your name! :) Plovious ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 6:44 AM > Yes, mom. I'll do my homework... > > Name: DJ Pagan > > Age: 21 > > What is in your Moby collection: > (Self-titled) > Ambient > Drop a Beat > Rare - The Collected B-Sides > Go Remix Collection > A Go promo disk > The Story So Far > EIW > EIW - Remixed > Hymn - 2CD UK > Into the Blue - 2CD UK > Feeling So Real > Feeling So Real - 2CD UK > Everytime You Touch Me > Move EP > Come on Baby - UK > Revolver - 2CD UK > Animal Right UK (w/ Little Idiot) > I Like to Score > James Bond Theme UK > Play > Honey - 2CD UK & Promo > Run On - 2CD UK & Promo > Bodyrock - 2CD UK > Honey/Run On > Bodyrock > The End of Everything > Dog Heaven > > Where you first heard Moby: A buddy brought over > EIW, and I fell in love with Hymn. Then I got > the import for Hymn... and loved it even more. :) > > How much of a fan you are: This is an odd > question. I could say I'm his number one fan, > but I'm not. I respect the man more than the > music, but he can turn a show out like few. I > enjoy his music very much. As a fan, per se... > I'm not a very good one. :) > > Other artists you like: Bill Whelan, Enya, Deep > Forest, B-Tribe, Underworld, Orbital, Paul Van > Dyk, Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, John Digweed, Fatboy > Slim, BT, Fluke, Tori Amos, Soul Coughing, Jane > Siberry, FSOL... to name a FEW! > > Any other interesting information you wish to > share: Not at the present time... > > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Moby in London Date: 24 Sep 1999 12:23:06 EDT In a message dated 9/24/99 0:09:24 AM EST, MartinC1@aol.com writes: << n the U.S., did he sing 'Natural Blues' during his tour? as he sang this in London as main vocal over the female voice. >> yep :) thats one of my favorite songs. i was very pleased that he played it here in florida ! Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 12:28:32 EDT In a message dated 9/24/99 9:09:19 AM EST, dlogue@SHAPBLOCK.com writes: << Mobility VIP card - everywhere you want to be? >> heh. thats cute danielle :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Wilson-North Subject: Re: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 17:36:50 +0100 anybody heard of a tune called "why does my heart feel so bad" by moby? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte Date: 24 Sep 1999 12:34:13 -0700 I am most likely going to the Roxy show...but $23 plus ticketmaster charges is really kind of shitty...plus I got pay to ride the train from the island... but if some funds come in and if it hasn't sold out, I will be there.> Chris -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Danielle Logue Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 7:25 AM Welcome to the list! I'm so jealous you were able to see the Irving Plaza show! I couldn't get tix he was sold out. Please email me and tell me how the show was, I'm dying to know! Will you be going to his Oct. 28 show at the Roxy? Is anybody going to this show? Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyniwitz@aol.com [SMTP:Robyniwitz@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:17 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte > > Hello all. My name is Robyn Shepherd, and I'm an 18-year-old NYU > student. > I'll confess up front that I am a very new Moby fan, and don't claim > to > possess a whole heckuva lot of knowledge beyond what is easily found > on the > web, but I hope to know much, much more. I first saw and heard Moby > at a > taping of the Conan O'Brien show in July and my interest was piqued > enough to > attend an all-NYU concert at Irving Plaza earlier this month--let's > say that > I was completely charmed, smitten, and otherwise knocked for a loop. > The > more I learned about him and the more I heard him the more I liked it, > so I > inevitably signed up to this list. I probably won't be saying much as > I > continue to educate myself, but I just wanted to say hello. And could > you > tell me the best place to see Moby videos? Continuous watching of > MTV2 has > only yielded one Bodyrock video. > > Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte Date: 24 Sep 1999 12:40:02 -0400 I'm not a big fan of the Roxy; so I'm kinda sad that that's where it is, but whatever it's Moby. The $23 however, is REALLY making me sad. My friend said something about trying to get us on a guestlist or whatever, but thatll probably only knock the price down to $20, if she even comes through. *sigh*. Because it's Moby, it's different, it's worth shelling out the bucks to see him. I hope he walks around before/after so that we can say hello to him. I'm glad someone else from mobility is going! Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Hand [SMTP:tripwire@vdot.net] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 3:34 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte > > I am most likely going to the Roxy show...but $23 plus ticketmaster > charges > is really kind of shitty...plus I got pay to ride the train from the > island... > but if some funds come in and if it hasn't sold out, I will be there.> > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Danielle Logue > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 7:25 AM > To: 'mobility@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte > > > Welcome to the list! I'm so jealous you were able to see the Irving > Plaza show! I couldn't get tix he was sold out. Please email me and > tell me how the show was, I'm dying to know! Will you be going to his > Oct. 28 show at the Roxy? Is anybody going to this show? > Danielle > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robyniwitz@aol.com [SMTP:Robyniwitz@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 10:17 AM > > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte > > > > Hello all. My name is Robyn Shepherd, and I'm an 18-year-old NYU > > student. > > I'll confess up front that I am a very new Moby fan, and don't claim > > to > > possess a whole heckuva lot of knowledge beyond what is easily found > > on the > > web, but I hope to know much, much more. I first saw and heard Moby > > at a > > taping of the Conan O'Brien show in July and my interest was piqued > > enough to > > attend an all-NYU concert at Irving Plaza earlier this month--let's > > say that > > I was completely charmed, smitten, and otherwise knocked for a loop. > > The > > more I learned about him and the more I heard him the more I liked > it, > > so I > > inevitably signed up to this list. I probably won't be saying much > as > > I > > continue to educate myself, but I just wanted to say hello. And > could > > you > > tell me the best place to see Moby videos? Continuous watching of > > MTV2 has > > only yielded one Bodyrock video. > > > > Robyn > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 12:40:45 -0400 tanks. d > -----Original Message----- > From: SrGldnHair@aol.com [SMTP:SrGldnHair@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 12:29 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) just2postsumthing > > In a message dated 9/24/99 9:09:19 AM EST, dlogue@SHAPBLOCK.com > writes: > > << Mobility VIP card - everywhere you want to be? >> > heh. thats cute danielle :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 24 Sep 1999 12:56:47 EDT In a message dated 9/24/99 11:36:29 AM EST, tom@slice.co.uk writes: << anybody heard of a tune called "why does my heart feel so bad" by moby? >> of course! its on the album PLAY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MartinC1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re:Moby in London Date: 24 Sep 1999 13:56:35 EDT In a message dated 24/09/99 17:39:59 GMT Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << yep :) thats one of my favorite songs. i was very pleased that he played it here in florida ! Amy >> I know what you mean Amy. I love the bit in the middle of that song when the piano comes in. I was surprised how really good his voice was for that song. Also the same when he sang 'Run On'. Martin C ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doogsidog Date: 24 Sep 1999 11:58:05 -0700 (PDT) my name is adam. i am 20 years old. i own: Moby - Play Moby - Animal Rights (US,no little idiot) Moby - Everything is Wrong Mixed & Remixed 2CD Voodoo Child - Higher when i was 16yrs old, i was subscribing to the mail order CD service BMG. they had "everything is wrong" as a new electronic release or something like that. i ordered it. i got it. i loved it. it was stolen one week after i got it. i still haven't re-purchased it. (notice it is NOT in the list of things i own.) i get bitter about things like that. this summer i was able to go to 3 moby shows. need i really say that those shows are now among the best i've been to? i loved the techno. animal rights is my favorite my album. play is, to me, the best album of 1999. i am a big fan. i met moby at a festival. the festival had no vegetarian food available. i am vegan. i was hungry. i asked moby if he could hook me up with some food. he gave me an armful of snacks from inside his bus. i think he is a great guy. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MartinC1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Caged Animal Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:01:58 EDT Hi Everyone. Anyone else like me who has just seen Moby for the first time, were surprised how much energy this man has on stage. When we first saw him two hours before he went on stage and we went up to talk to him, he appeared such a quiet and thoughtful chap. On stage what a difference. He paced up and down like a caged animal, moving his keyboards this way and that. He jumped on his keyboards when he wasn't moving it around the stage (as you do!). He walked backwards forwards, tried to play every instrument on stage and did a good comedy routine with the audience. This bloke is just amazing! Martin C ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arcya@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) In the Closet & Dharma Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:39:45 EDT Hey all, I heard an interview with Moby a while ago about this and he sounds pretty mellow about the whole thing: "I was at a friend's house a couple weeks ago, and I don't watch too much TV myself, but her roomate had the television on. And suddenly I heard my song and I looked up and there's this white background and this woman I've never seen before dancing. (short pause) I was like, this is kind of odd. And I just looked around to make sure that I wasn't having some sort of like hallucinatory flashback. And at the end they just had the little, you know, the little tag for 'Dharma & Greg'. And I thought to myself, wow, well, what an interesting television commercial and I was kind of excited to be involved in it. "Because I don't watch TV, I've never actually seen the show. I hope it's good. I hope it's not about like child prostitution snuff films or something. But I assume that it's not. I assume that it's wholesome prime time fare." Ha ha, that guy cracks me up. I knew that show had a dark&twisted under-belly!!! Love&salsa, malfunctiongirl PS: Welcome DJ Pagan (your extensive collection makes me sick -I am considering once again selling body parts on the black market cause I am so poor- but thanks for the tips :), Robyn (hey we were all new Moby fans at one point) and Adam (armful of snax? wow, that's so cool of him!) PSS: Maybe this is a dumb request since it will probably be too huge&hectic, but is anyone going to the Earthdance in SF? If so, email me... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) MOBY NEWS: VMA/PLAY, BODYROCK IMPOSTER Date: 24 Sep 1999 13:28:27 -0700 (PDT) damn computer, it logged of while i was trying to write this dammit!!!!! right, anyway to DJ PAGAN, no it isnt wrong to listen to DEAD CITIES in a dark closet! its wrong to host a SIFL & OLLY awards show hosted by BJORK in yr closet! ;) Hi, I'm Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson From The Ministry Of 'Ousinje (real name PAUL SIMPSON) and I'm a Sifl & Olly freak!!!!! right, now that i've pissed everyone else off, i have some news. the MTV awards has helped PLAY! it has jumped from number 140-150 or so on the charts to 125! highest position yet! and BODYROCK is gaining airplay on the "modern" "Rock" charts, but it is still holding at number 32 on the charts, it peaked at like 26 a few weeks ago. on the dance charts, its falling, it was 6 before, but WAIT!!!! there is another song called BODYROCK on the club charts! its by Louchie Lou and Michie One on Interscope Records! now WHERE have i heard that name before...........? i think it was from Billboard used to publish the Japanese charts, like the top 100 from a radio station in Tokyo...... but who knows.... anyybody heard this? any good? okay i must go but i think i said this before but WATCH MONTY PYTHON TOMORROW NIGHT AT 11 PM ON A&E ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT! 11 PM EASTERN TIME CHECK YR LISTINGS! ELLO MISS! I WISH TO REGISTER A COMPLAINT! MY COMPUTER IS STUCK ON CAPS! AAAH! BYE!!!!!!!!! ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Moby in Holland Date: 24 Sep 1999 22:43:22 +0200 Welcome to all new members! Moby will be performing in "De Melkweg" in Amsterdam, Holland tomorrow. The thing is, I can't go!! But the good thing is that Kink FM is going to broadcast his show on the radio LIVE! Guess who is going to record it on MD! Now I can still pretend I'm there :) I'm probably one of the few Mobility members who has never been at a Moby show, I hope he will come back to the Netherlands in the future. (<>,,<>) "..dreams are answers to questions we haven't figured out how to ask.." [Fox Mulder] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Holland Date: 24 Sep 1999 16:38:49 -0400 Do you really think you are one of the few members of mobility to see Moby perform? I wonder if that's true. I know this question has been asked and answered before, but just how many members does Mobility have? How many of us have seen him live? How many of us have met him? These are the burning questions that annoy me at 10 of 5 on a Friday, when my head is fried and wanders...no, not really. um, I'm going to start my weekend now, I think I need a vacation. danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart van Eijck [SMTP:eijck@IAE.nl] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 4:43 PM > To: mailing list mobility > Subject: (mobility) Moby in Holland > > Welcome to all new members! > > Moby will be performing in "De Melkweg" in Amsterdam, Holland > tomorrow. > The thing is, I can't go!! But the good thing is that Kink FM is > going to > broadcast > his show on the radio LIVE! Guess who is going to record it on MD! > > Now I can still pretend I'm there :) > > I'm probably one of the few Mobility members who has never been at > a Moby show, I hope he will come back to the Netherlands in the > future. > > (<>,,<>) > > "..dreams are answers to questions > we haven't figured out how to ask.." > [Fox Mulder] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby in Holland Date: 24 Sep 1999 16:41:07 -0400 OH! Who's NEVER been to a show! My apologies for annoying the list. I guess the same questions apply in reverse. So, was Moby unaware that Bodyrock was being used in a commercial for Darma and Greg? danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart van Eijck [SMTP:eijck@IAE.nl] > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 4:43 PM > To: mailing list mobility > Subject: (mobility) Moby in Holland > > Welcome to all new members! > > Moby will be performing in "De Melkweg" in Amsterdam, Holland > tomorrow. > The thing is, I can't go!! But the good thing is that Kink FM is > going to > broadcast > his show on the radio LIVE! Guess who is going to record it on MD! > > Now I can still pretend I'm there :) > > I'm probably one of the few Mobility members who has never been at > a Moby show, I hope he will come back to the Netherlands in the > future. > > (<>,,<>) > > "..dreams are answers to questions > we haven't figured out how to ask.." > [Fox Mulder] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: (mobility) moby at the scala on wednesday Date: 24 Sep 1999 21:50:45 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF06D6.DABDC0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello did anyone here see moby at the scala on Wednesday (I was wearing a white t-shirt with the old moby logo on it) and was = standing in front of moby ;-) I also got the set list the gig was the most amazing night of my life and I was really thrilled = that moby reached out and shook my hand;-) I can only say one thing to Moby Thank you Geoff Sproule ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF06D6.DABDC0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I can only say one thing to Moby
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF06D6.DABDC0E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bjorkdoll Subject: Re: (mobility) Tom Green AGAIN Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT) bit late...but _where_ exactly is this picture of tom green and moby? got a url? thanks. sarah "...a fountain of blood in the shape of a girl..." http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/bjorkdoll/index.html On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 michael.demattei@milliman.com wrote: > Here's a little postscript on the > Tom Green hoopla that blew through > this list awhile ago: There's a picture > of Tom Green AND MOBY at the KROQ > website! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robyniwitz@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte Date: 24 Sep 1999 20:41:40 EDT The NYU-Irving Plaza show was great. The crowd was really into it (probably part of it was due to the fact that we only paid $5 and we had all just recently re-located to the big city, but no matter). This being my first Moby show, I was struck by how durned nice he was on stage (he lamented the fact that a big rich school like NYU couldn't spring to get us all water, and he was sorry he couldn't share his). He did three encores, explaining that he wasn't used to doing that many so he apologized if he just "fucked around" for awhile. I thought that it was great of him to do a show like that for what was probably a rather small fee. Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robyniwitz@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello from a Moby neophyte Date: 24 Sep 1999 20:43:13 EDT Oh yes, and I do plan to attend the Roxy show. I'll see if I can score a discount of sorts, but I'll pay whatever is necessary. I don't go to many shows, so I'm happy to pay to see the few artists that I really enjoy. Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 25 Sep 1999 02:59:59 EDT In a message dated 9/24/99 8:47:05 AM Central Daylight Time, djpagan@yahoo.com writes: << Other artists you like: Bill Whelan, Enya, Deep Forest, B-Tribe, Underworld, Orbital, Paul Van Dyk, Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, John Digweed, Fatboy Slim, BT, Fluke, Tori Amos, Soul Coughing, Jane Siberry, FSOL... to name a FEW! >> The FEW you named, I like them all! good taste!! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at the scala on wednesday Date: 25 Sep 1999 13:45:30 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:50:45 +0100 Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > hello did anyone here see moby at the scala on Wednesday Yes. > (I was wearing a white t-shirt with the old moby logo on it) > Geoff Sproule I was wearing a khaki, skinny-fit, black ringer, 'Moby - Animal Rights' t-shirt and standing near the centre, at the back. Had an excellent view and good sound from that position. TMB ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) That Guy (was: moby at the scala on wednesday) Date: 25 Sep 1999 20:51:48 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 7:45 AM > > Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > > > hello did anyone here see moby at the scala on Wednesday > > (I was wearing a white t-shirt with the old moby logo on it) Then, Tim Beecher said,: > I was wearing a khaki, skinny-fit, black ringer, 'Moby - > Animal Rights' t-shirt and standing near the centre, at the > back. Had an excellent view and good sound from that > position. > It must be different in England. NO ONE in the states wants to be THAT guy who wears an artists tshirt to said artist's concert. I don't know if it's pretentions, geeky, or just a bit too Japanese, but no one around here would do such a thing. I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's not such a social faus pas. But it is like screaming, "I'm a Fan! I'm a Fan!" BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarasohn1@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 25 Sep 1999 22:00:09 EDT In a message dated 9/25/99 9:52:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << The $23 however, is REALLY making me sad. My friend said something about trying to get us on a guestlist or whatever, but thatll probably only knock the price down to $20, if she even comes through. *sigh*. Because it's Moby, it's different, it's worth shelling out the bucks to see him. I hope he walks around before/after so that we can say hello to him. I'm glad someone else from mobility is going! >> yeah $23 is a bit pricy but it's soooo worth it. i guarantee you wont regret it! this will be my 5th time seeing moby in nyc since june! and every show just gets better! as far as meeting him after the show - slim chance... he's always at some after party. u can probably catch him while he doing sound checks. he is absolutely beautiful. animal lib, vegan power sara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 26 Sep 1999 01:39:04 EDT Name: Felicia, Dj Skittles Age: 13 (If your saying in your head, WOW! a 13 year old Dj! I'm not good at it, and I'm gettng a good head-start) What is in your Moby collection: Moby- Early Underground Moby- Feeling so Real Remixes Moby- Everything is Wrong Moby- Amimal Rights Moby- The Rare Colected B Sides Moby- Play Where you first heard Moby: When I was about 6 or so, my Uncle brought over a few cds of his and I fell in love! Been hooked since!!!! How much of a fan you are: Most of my life.......... Other artists you like: Enya, Bjork, BT, Orbital, Orb, Tod Terri, Deep Forest, Porno Kings, Boom Boom Satellites, Inercourse, Sasha, Whumpscut, SlipKnoT, Coal Chamber, Lords of Acid, Prodigy, Dj Rap, The Clean, Crass, Aphex Twin, The Shamen, Jimi Hendrix..... Theres so menny more but I'm shure you guys are bored allready! Any other interesting information you wish to share: Um.....I love Moby! His show at St. Andrews Hall in Detroit was the first time I saw him and deffenatly the best show I've seen! The Boom Boom Satellites Rocked too! >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robyniwitz@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 26 Sep 1999 02:13:45 EDT >>How much of a fan you are: Most of my life.......... >>Other artists you like: Enya, Bjork, BT, Orbital, Orb, Tod Terri, Deep >>Forest, Porno Kings, Boom Boom Satellites, Inercourse, Sasha, Whumpscut, >>SlipKnoT, Coal Chamber, Lords of Acid, Prodigy, Dj Rap, The Clean, Crass, >>Aphex Twin, The Shamen, Jimi Hendrix..... Theres so menny more but I'm shure >>you guys are bored allready! Jiminy, I'm a freshman in college and you're already hipper than I'll hope to be in this lifetime. At 13, I think I may have still been nursing a New Kids on the Block obsession. Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 26 Sep 1999 02:20:00 EDT In a message dated 9/26/99 1:15:14 AM Central Daylight Time, Robyniwitz@aol.com writes: << Jiminy, I'm a freshman in college and you're already hipper than I'll hope to be in this lifetime. At 13, I think I may have still been nursing a New Kids on the Block obsession. Robyn >> Well thank you! Thats nice! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (mobility) Moby in Holland Date: 26 Sep 1999 09:37:29 +0200 Hello, Moby will start his show within 1 hour on KinkFM, what is transmitted digitally (in MPEG2) over Europe. He is expected to start around 23:35 CET :) I tape his concert on DAT - if someone needs a copy on CD - feel free to mail me. See the ad on: http://www.kinkfm.com/kinkfm/xploor/img/ad.jpg // Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamie and Jeanne Baade" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Holland Date: 26 Sep 1999 02:48:16 -0500 I would love a copy of the concert on CD...let me know what I have to do!!!!!! greatest concert I have ever been to! thanks Jamie ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 2:37 AM > Hello, > > Moby will start his show within 1 hour on KinkFM, what is transmitted > digitally (in MPEG2) over Europe. He is expected to start around 23:35 CET > :) I tape his concert on DAT - if someone needs a copy on CD - feel free to > mail me. > > See the ad on: http://www.kinkfm.com/kinkfm/xploor/img/ad.jpg > > // Guenther > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Holland Date: 26 Sep 1999 03:48:50 EDT Actually, now that ya menision it...I wouldnt mind a copy ither! Just tell me...I'll do anything!!!!!! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 26 Sep 1999 04:16:40 EDT In a message dated 9/26/99 12:39:04 AM Central Daylight Time, DJSkitles5 writes: << What is in your Moby collection: Moby- Early Underground Moby- Feeling so Real Remixes Moby- Everything is Wrong Moby- Amimal Rights Moby- The Rare Colected B Sides Moby- Play >> I forgot one! Moby- Self Titled!!!!!! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blake Edwards" Subject: (mobility) messy people Date: 26 Sep 1999 05:22:18 EDT >From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk >Subject: (mobility) just2postsumthing > >Can you imagine how envious i am, when i read your experiences with >moby, >his performances, or even hugs & kisses ? >gee.. hopefully, someday i will have the same luck as you and one day >we >will all spent some time sharing our view and memories. > >btw. will please somebody let moby know, that there are some poor >students >here who don't have neither time nor money to check out all his new > >singles >and therefore he could postpone the release of Why Does My Heart Feel >So >Bad >until, let's say february 2003 ? i just bought run on extended and i >again >have no resources to buy at least bodyrock ! :-) > >but i like the idea, that moby plans to release a compilation of his > >Bsides. >is that really going to happen ? got some new informations ? SHADDAP STOOPID!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) ravin to moby at 3 am eternal! Date: 26 Sep 1999 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) actually 3 45 see last night on the electro circus (the techno show they have on radio 104 saturday nights), they had a special extended edition, which ended at 5 am. at around 3:30-3:45 or so, he played a bunch of moby tunes! he played Hymn (I Believe) (whats the difference between this and Help Me To Believe fro self titled?) this is the same track thats sampled in "Choose Yr Jesus" from the tribute cd! the first time i ever heard it besides that! but he faded it out when it came to this acid part at the end, and it was weird, it was like just dead ambience for like a minute, like it was a song loading up, then simultaneously it was the ending to ATINITBL (MV) from Move and the opening beats to BRING BACK MY HAPPINESS!!!!!! rock! so i was jumpin out of my bed raving at 3:45! he played sum freaky stuff too, one track that sounded EXACTLY like one of the trancy mixes of "You're Not Alone" by Olive, with that symphonic part, you know, if you know the song? exact their was this voice saying "free your mind" or sumthin........... weird. i didnt even tell you guys that JOSH WINK was djing on the show for the first 2 hours! except i didnt know cuz i was coming home from Riverside and watching Python those 2 hours............ seee there was this big rave thing at the Hartford Civic Center last night called ALIVE and Wink was djing there i guess....... and like a shitload of other djs, Freq Nasty was also at the electro circus, and then a whole ton of djs were there just poppin inn, he said there were more djs there at the radio station than at a rave, or sumthin. crazy. anyway the best part is, i know what SASHA's real name is! yes, at around 4:45 am he played a white label trane record from Automatic recrds Uk (i think) which sounded suspiciously a lot like Xpander by Sasha, and then he played Xpander, and then he said that since we were all listening to the radio at 5 am, he might as well tell us what Sasha's real name is. It's Alexander Coe, for those who care. so if u ever see Sasha, say "Hey Alexander whuts up!" cuz not too many folks know his real name...... but now you do!!!!!!!! so tell all yr friends and crap right im gonna get sued ack bye!!!!! ps: on MTVs hard rock A-Z videos they played Anthrax/PE "Bring The noise" then they played BAD BRAINS!!!!!!! when the hell does MTV ever play Bad Brains!?!?!?!?!? i just sed that cuz moby raps "BTN" a little live in concert, and he loves the Brains. so ROCK!!!!!!! ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" Subject: (mobility) Re: That Guy Date: 26 Sep 1999 10:06:06 -0700 Brad Caviness wrote: > It must be different in England. NO ONE in the states wants to be THAT guy > who wears an artists tshirt to said artist's concert. I don't know if it's > pretentions, geeky, or just a bit too Japanese, but no one around here would > do such a thing. I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's not such a > social faus pas. But it is like screaming, "I'm a Fan! I'm a Fan!" > > BSC > i had honestly never heard of this rule (don't wear the tshirt of the band you're seeing to their concert) until i saw that forgettable movie PCU. although i had never done it myself, i never looked down at my friends who wore *that bands tshirt* to *that bands concert*. but what about all the people who go to the concert, buy a concert tee, and then put it on there? is that the same thing or is it just a matter of convience? (holding onto a tshirt vs wearing a tshirt vs shoving it into your or your friend's bag). what about everyone else's views? is there really a hidden rulebook of what to do at a concert that i just never got to see a copy of? :) man.... 10am on a sunday morning... what am i doing up this early? and why am i answerign email? don't mind me. just talking err... writing out loud. peace. -kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) Re: That Guy Date: 26 Sep 1999 10:38:29 -0400 > i had honestly never heard of this rule (don't wear the tshirt of the band > you're seeing to their concert) until i saw that forgettable movie PCU. > although i had never done it myself, i never looked down at my friends who > wore *that bands tshirt* to *that bands concert*. thats wierd, i guess i havent noticed that little so called rule. a couple years back when Filter was touring with White Zombie, a bunch of people including myself bought Filter t-shirts at the arena and wore them on the spot. "I'm a fan I'm a fan!" shirt still fits! :) eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) That Guy (was: moby at the scala on wednesday) Date: 26 Sep 1999 17:50:00 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) It is a little faus pas. Hardly anyone else seemed to be wearing Moby t-shirts. I was thinking I wouldn't, but then again, I felt like it, so I couldn't really give a toss what anyone else thought or thinks. Anyways, I don't think there were that many Moby fans, coz most people carried on getting last orders at the bar, or were too busy doing other things, when he came out to meet people. TMB. On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:51:48 -0500 Brad Caviness wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at the scala on wednesday > > > > > > Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > > > > > hello did anyone here see moby at the scala on Wednesday > > > (I was wearing a white t-shirt with the old moby logo on it) > > Then, Tim Beecher said,: > > I was wearing a khaki, skinny-fit, black ringer, 'Moby - > > Animal Rights' t-shirt and standing near the centre, at the > > back. Had an excellent view and good sound from that > > position. > > > It must be different in England. NO ONE in the states wants to be THAT guy > who wears an artists tshirt to said artist's concert. I don't know if it's > pretentions, geeky, or just a bit too Japanese, but no one around here would > do such a thing. I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's not such a > social faus pas. But it is like screaming, "I'm a Fan! I'm a Fan!" > > BSC > > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) That Guy... who cares what people think!!! Date: 26 Sep 1999 12:57:30 EDT In a message dated 9/26/99 11:51:03 AM EST, T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk writes: << TMB, if you want to wear a Moby shirt to a show then wear a damn Moby shirt! it doesnt matter really really doesnt matter what anyone else thinks. if i had an animal rignts shirt i'd wear it everyday! show or no show! so dont listen to people. Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BFle123456@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Holland Date: 26 Sep 1999 14:45:45 EDT Gunther, I wold be interested in obtaining a cd copy of the MOBY broadcast. How would I go about getting one? Bill bfle123456@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Covati Subject: Re: (mobility) That Guy (was: moby at the scala on wednesday) Date: 26 Sep 1999 17:58:04 -0400 (EDT) At the first moby show I went to, Fairfield CT (this summer, toads place, sweet show), some kid with a Moby shirt (That Guy), got on stage, seems like a trend. I know what I am wearing to my next moby show... Oh yeah, I never introduced myself: name:Adam Age:19 Collection: move single (first one I got, hooked me) Animal rights PLAY bodyrock single buncha other singles I think I have more, I can never remember first hear?: duh. how big a fan?:pretty big, I go to any show that I can, but who doesn't after seeing him live, or just listening to his music other artists:NIN, early prodigy (like around the time they toured with moby), DJ shadow, sneaker pimps, Beasties, DynamixII, longneck, GNR!! other info:I'm from central MA, USA, and I personaly think it is very cool that moby reads this list. "*MOBY you fuckin rule*" -some kid at my first moby show [ever notice how that guy yelling is always right?] -Down with PJs -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Adam Covati GTE CyberTrust Direct Network Services Scuba Club President www.wpi.edu/~acovati ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Seen a Concert yet? Date: 27 Sep 1999 11:16:44 +1200 I haven't seen a mind spelling concert from the man himself yet. He's coming to New Zealand soon, Auckland and Wellington, I'm hopefully going to the Wellington concert on November the 16th, so I've got a bit of time to get all the way across the country with a few mates that I converted into fans. No Moby T-Shirts though. Don't want to look tooooo eager aye. Not that travelling all the way across the country shows that I reallllllly want to see the concert. Might wear a Marilyn Manson T Shirt so people think I'm Fucking Hardcore (Sarcasim) Is that spelt right? I can't wait cause it's just after finals, then I'm off on the road in our Mystery Machine on a joyous adventure. Does he come out to meet people after every show or what? Spot Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike A7" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: That Guy Date: 26 Sep 1999 21:25:33 -0400 Kelbert wrote: > Brad Caviness wrote: > > > It must be different in England. NO ONE in the states wants to be THAT > guy > > who wears an artists tshirt to said artist's concert. I don't know if > it's > > pretentions, geeky, or just a bit too Japanese, but no one around here > would > > do such a thing. I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's not such a > > social faus pas. But it is like screaming, "I'm a Fan! I'm a Fan!" > > > > BSC > > > > i had honestly never heard of this rule (don't wear the tshirt of the band > you're seeing to their concert) until i saw that forgettable movie PCU. > although i had never done it myself, i never looked down at my friends who > wore *that bands tshirt* to *that bands concert*. > but what about all the people who go to the concert, buy a concert tee, > and then put it on there? is that the same thing or is it just a matter of > convience? (holding onto a tshirt vs wearing a tshirt vs shoving it into > your > or your friend's bag). > > what about everyone else's views? is there really a hidden rulebook of > what to do at a concert that i just never got to see a copy of? :) I don't think so, I think this supposed "rule" is one of the biggest pieces of crap I've ever heard :) I've seen tons of people wearing T-shirts of the artist I'm seeing from past tours, etc. All the Prince concerts I've seen over the years, there's always a bunch of people wearing T-shirts from past tours, albums etc. At the REM show I saw this year same thing. And yes, at the Moby show I saw this year, again same thing. I certainly didn't see anybody pointing these people out or making comments. And yes there were lots who bought "Play" t-shirts at the show who put them on too, me included as I didn't want it draped over my shoulder for fear it would fall. And this supposed "fashion rule" never entered my mind , frankly I've never heard of such a thing. Pretty silly to me. MikeA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike A7" Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 26 Sep 1999 21:09:13 -0400 Robyniwitz@aol.com wrote: > >>How much of a fan you are: Most of my life.......... > > >>Other artists you like: Enya, Bjork, BT, Orbital, Orb, Tod Terri, Deep > >>Forest, Porno Kings, Boom Boom Satellites, Inercourse, Sasha, Whumpscut, > >>SlipKnoT, Coal Chamber, Lords of Acid, Prodigy, Dj Rap, The Clean, Crass, > >>Aphex Twin, The Shamen, Jimi Hendrix..... Theres so menny more but I'm > shure > >>you guys are bored allready! > > Jiminy, I'm a freshman in college and you're already hipper than I'll hope to > be in this lifetime. At 13, I think I may have still been nursing a New Kids > on the Block obsession. Amen, Robyn. When I read that she was only 13 years old my jaw nearly dropped. God bless DJ Skittles, there is actually hope in today's youth.:) I'm always going off about how musical tastes are just at an all time low with all this teen obsessions with Britney Spears, the umpteen million boy bands and their ilk and here's someone who's into not just Moby but other electronic greats like BT, Orb, Orbital and others. It took me until I was 28 to discover Moby, DJ Skittles you're way ahead of me in the game. And here I thought I had cool tastes :) MikeA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) KLF's Chill Out--must listen Date: 26 Sep 1999 18:50:53 PDT Hey, I'm back. This is totally irrelevant, but I just came back from Vegas and got KLF's Chill Out finally.... Anybody who likes anything ambient MUST get this album, I haven't even finished listening to it and it's one of my favs. wow. mindblowing journey through the midwest in a truck at night. amazing samples, beautiful synths.\ sorry, i'm gushing. www.mp3.com/logickills ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Wearing Artist T-Shirt Date: 26 Sep 1999 19:03:09 PDT Well, I live in the states, and I'd plan on wearing the artist's t-shirt. On the other hand, the only concert I went to this summer was Bob Dylan/Paul Simon (the greatest teaming of the nineties except for Drummond/Cauty of the KLF or maybe Patterson/Weston :)...... Of course, I didn't wear their t-shirt, I wore my "Bone" t shirt. Anybody in2 bone? Groo? Usagi Yojimbo? Maybe not.... Anyway, I want a vegetarian t shirt! >From: "Brad Caviness" >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: (mobility) That Guy (was: moby at the scala on wednesday) >Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:51:48 -0500 > > >----- Original Message ----- >To: >Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 7:45 AM >Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at the scala on wednesday > > > > > > Geoffrey Sproule wrote: > > > > > hello did anyone here see moby at the scala on Wednesday > > > (I was wearing a white t-shirt with the old moby logo on it) > >Then, Tim Beecher said,: > > I was wearing a khaki, skinny-fit, black ringer, 'Moby - > > Animal Rights' t-shirt and standing near the centre, at the > > back. Had an excellent view and good sound from that > > position. > > >It must be different in England. NO ONE in the states wants to be THAT guy >who wears an artists tshirt to said artist's concert. I don't know if it's >pretentions, geeky, or just a bit too Japanese, but no one around here >would >do such a thing. I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's not such a >social faus pas. But it is like screaming, "I'm a Fan! I'm a Fan!" > >BSC > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Skittles, age, and me Date: 26 Sep 1999 19:08:55 PDT I wish I listened to Moby @ 6! My mom played Vangelis a lot, though. I wish I listened to Hendrix, Orb, Orbital, etc @ 13! All I listened to those 3 years ago was film music and classical. I still do, of course. And the Beatles and Weird Al (whom I know am ashamed of) Then, came Simon & Garfunkel, from there more Beatles, Dylan, CCR. And Philip Glass. That guy is amazing. Then, came Deep Forest. Then, that monumental moment when I bought the Orb on awhim. Wow. >From: DJSkitles5@aol.com >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... >Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:39:04 EDT > > Name: Felicia, Dj Skittles > > Age: 13 (If your saying in your head, WOW! a 13 year old Dj! I'm not good >at >it, and I'm gettng a good head-start) > > What is in your Moby collection: >Moby- Early Underground >Moby- Feeling so Real Remixes >Moby- Everything is Wrong >Moby- Amimal Rights >Moby- The Rare Colected B Sides >Moby- Play > > > > > Where you first heard Moby: When I was about 6 or so, my Uncle brought >over >a few cds of his and I fell in love! Been hooked since!!!! > > > How much of a fan you are: Most of my life.......... > > Other artists you like: Enya, Bjork, BT, Orbital, Orb, Tod Terri, Deep >Forest, Porno Kings, Boom Boom Satellites, Inercourse, Sasha, Whumpscut, >SlipKnoT, Coal Chamber, Lords of Acid, Prodigy, Dj Rap, The Clean, Crass, >Aphex Twin, The Shamen, Jimi Hendrix..... Theres so menny more but I'm >shure >you guys are bored allready! > > Any other interesting information you wish to > share: Um.....I love Moby! His show at St. Andrews Hall in Detroit was >the >first time I saw him and deffenatly the best show I've seen! The Boom Boom >Satellites Rocked too! > > >> > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) Skittles, age, and me Date: 26 Sep 1999 22:46:28 -0400 > I wish I listened to Moby @ 6! My mom played Vangelis a lot, though. i got my musical education from van halen at that age! :) > I wish I listened to Hendrix, Orb, Orbital, etc @ 13! Hmmmm, Nirvana! :) and now im all growed up and musically mature! (i think)... eric gold@netrox.net http://www.tonematrix.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) just2postsumthing Date: 25 Sep 1999 23:48:16 -0500 ><< anybody heard of a tune called "why does my heart feel so bad" by moby? >> > >of course! its on the album PLAY I played "WDMHFSB" as the last song on my radio show, dedicated to the memory of my grandfather who died recently. It seemed like the perfect song for that. -- The C.O.D. / John Turpin / "I believe in this reality / But it doesn't answer what it means to me My hope is / Above and beyond" -- Mortal, "Above & Beyond" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "April Kincaid" Subject: (mobility) WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT Date: 26 Sep 1999 22:45:19 PDT I SAY WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT.....IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS... SCREW EVERYONE ELSE.. THEY DON'T MATTER.......... LOVE AND KISSES FOR THE WORLD APRIL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blake Edwards" Subject: Re: (mobility) WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT Date: 27 Sep 1999 03:47:42 EDT >IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THAT'S ALL THAT >MATTERS... SCREW EVERYONE ELSE.. THEY DON'T MATTER.......... PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY OUR PLANET IS SO PHUCKED...... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 27 Sep 1999 03:56:51 EDT In a message dated 9/26/99 8:39:30 PM Central Daylight Time, mikea7@provide.net writes: << God bless DJ Skittles >> I love all of you and thanks! You make me feel all warm and tingly inside! ::::Kisses to everyone:::: ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT Date: 27 Sep 1999 09:38:12 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) At what gig did you get to hug and kiss Moby? TMB On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 22:45:19 PDT April Kincaid wrote: > > I SAY WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT.....IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THAT'S ALL THAT > MATTERS... SCREW EVERYONE ELSE.. THEY DON'T MATTER.......... > > LOVE AND KISSES FOR THE WORLD > APRIL > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:05:16 -0400 Really? You think he'll be at an afterparty? From what I've heard he's usually wanderin' around before/after his shows. I'll be sad if I can't see him again. I met him once at the ONLY show of his I've seen, April 27th, 1998, at Syracuse U. Anyway, if anyone remembers Ryu, he gave Moby my phone # at the Pitt show last month and I thought it would be fun to tell him it was my number...and just to see and talk to him in general. Hello is enough for me. Where would an after party be? At another club? So if there are a few Mobility members going..it would be nice to have some sort of location inside/outside where we could say hello to one another. later, d > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarasohn1@aol.com [SMTP:Sarasohn1@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 10:00 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) moby at roxy > > In a message dated 9/25/99 9:52:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > > << The $23 however, is REALLY making me sad. My > friend said something about trying to get us on a guestlist or > whatever, > but thatll probably only knock the price down to $20, if she even > comes > through. *sigh*. Because it's Moby, it's different, it's worth > shelling out the bucks to see him. I hope he walks around > before/after > so that we can say hello to him. I'm glad someone else from mobility > is > going! > >> > yeah $23 is a bit pricy but it's soooo worth it. i guarantee you wont > regret > it! this will be my 5th time seeing moby in nyc since june! and > every show > just gets better! as far as meeting him after the show - slim > chance... he's > always at some after party. u can probably catch him while he doing > sound > checks. he is absolutely beautiful. > > animal lib, vegan power > sara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 27 Sep 1999 10:07:01 -0400 Wow another person who likes Soul coughing! you rock felicia! d > -----Original Message----- > From: DJSkitles5@aol.com [SMTP:DJSkitles5@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:00 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... > > In a message dated 9/24/99 8:47:05 AM Central Daylight Time, > djpagan@yahoo.com writes: > > << Other artists you like: Bill Whelan, Enya, Deep > Forest, B-Tribe, Underworld, Orbital, Paul Van > Dyk, Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, John Digweed, Fatboy > Slim, BT, Fluke, Tori Amos, Soul Coughing, Jane > Siberry, FSOL... to name a FEW! >> > > The FEW you named, I like them all! good taste!! > > ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 27 Sep 1999 17:02:32 MET > Name: Felicia, Dj Skittles > > Age: 13 (If your saying in your head, WOW! a 13 year old Dj! I'm not good at > it, and I'm gettng a good head-start) > My colleagues didn't let me much to add to their positive reactions on your being here at this list, i must agree with all they said plus this: Good luck in your DJ career, and don't hide your beautiful name under your DJ a.k.a . have a nice time, Felicia. Yours Kohut. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matej.Novotny@st.fmph.uniba.sk Subject: Re: (mobility) messy people + re:t-shirts Date: 27 Sep 1999 17:02:44 MET blake edwards wrote: > > SHADDAP STOOPID!!! what's wrong man? you know, there are some people, who have this sense of,.. maybe you have already heard this word before, .. humour. and this people somehow appreciate when you make , you know this ?, ... a joke. obviously you're not one of them. the sense of humour is considered to be a good clue about one's intelligence. now who's DA STOOPID 1 ??? other thing is what you wrote about the t-shirts and why our world is so f**ked. if you really care that much about what other people think about your appearance and your actions, did you think about ME before you wrote that i was stupid ? if i understand you thoroughly, maybe you should find yourself another conference. maybe at www.I_h8_U_all.com peace man, relax and hold your horses before you hurt someone. yours KOHUT. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 11:23:35 EDT hey, i will be at the show along with my friend and i would love to meet beforehand..i've only met two other mobility people at a show in hartford...i'm hoping to meet mcjcrew there at the roxy...we can totally arrange to meet somewhere and have a swell of a time....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robyniwitz@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 11:28:36 EDT < Subject: RE: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 11:16:52 -0400 That sounds lovely..... now having done this before, how do you suggest we go about arranging this? Any Mobilities interested in this? d > -----Original Message----- > From: Chilidiba9@aol.com [SMTP:Chilidiba9@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:24 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy > > hey, i will be at the show along with my friend and i would love to > meet > beforehand..i've only met two other mobility people at a show in > hartford...i'm hoping to meet mcjcrew there at the roxy...we can > totally > arrange to meet somewhere and have a swell of a time....elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 11:24:40 -0400 absolutely. I've only been at the roxy once, I don't really remember of anything specific inside where we can meet. hmmm............suggestions? d > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyniwitz@aol.com [SMTP:Robyniwitz@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:29 AM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy > > < meet > beforehand..i've only met two other mobility people at a show in > hartford...i'm hoping to meet mcjcrew there at the roxy...we can > totally > < > Yes, quite. I too will be in attendance at the Roxy and would love to > meet > up with you guys. Shall we name a time and place? > > Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robyniwitz@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 12:46:49 EDT I've never been there before, so I'm really of no help. I s'pose I can scout it out. It's only a few blocks from where I live. Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Because I'm supposed to... Date: 27 Sep 1999 13:12:15 EDT In a message dated 9/27/99 9:21:42 AM EST, dlogue@SHAPBLOCK.com writes: << Wow another person who likes Soul coughing! you rock felicia! d >> Hey! I like them too!!!! Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) Cute photo of Moby on his tour bus Date: 27 Sep 1999 14:06:04 -0400 http://www.geocities.com/~jnovotny/interviews/mobyinterview.html Hey all, I finally got my photos back (after several weeks) and on the roll was a photo I took of Moby...I thought it was kind of cute so I thought I'd post it along with my interview. Some of you have seen the interview already, but not the photo. Just thought I'd pass it along...please don't use it without my permission, though feel free to make it your wallpaper on your computer. We all need a little Moby in our day-to-day lives, methinks. Cheers! Joe NP: The Prodigy - Experience ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "April Kincaid" Subject: Re: (mobility) WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT Date: 27 Sep 1999 12:04:45 PDT explain? > > > > >>IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THAT'S ALL THAT >>MATTERS... SCREW EVERYONE ELSE.. THEY DON'T MATTER.......... > >PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY OUR PLANET IS SO PHUCKED...... > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT (off topic) Date: 27 Sep 1999 15:06:23 -0400 no please dont, things are starting to get out of hand. if you need to, tell her personally. thank you, buhbye eric > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of April Kincaid > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 3:05 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) WEAR THE DAMN SHIRT > > > explain? > > > > > > > > > >>IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THAT'S ALL THAT > >>MATTERS... SCREW EVERYONE ELSE.. THEY DON'T MATTER.......... > > > >PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY OUR PLANET IS SO PHUCKED...... > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "April Kincaid" Subject: Re: (mobility) messy people + re:t-shirts Date: 27 Sep 1999 12:16:04 PDT KOHUT, I COULDN'T LOVE YOU MORE... THANK YOU.............. APRIL > > > >what's wrong man? >you know, there are some people, who have this sense of,.. maybe you have >already heard this word before, .. humour. and this people somehow >appreciate >when you make , you know this ?, ... a joke. obviously you're not one of >them. >the sense of humour is considered to be a good clue about one's >intelligence. >now who's DA STOOPID 1 ??? > >other thing is what you wrote about the t-shirts and why our world is so >f**ked. if you really care that much about what other people think about >your >appearance and your actions, did you think about ME before you wrote that i >was stupid ? > >if i understand you thoroughly, maybe you should find yourself another >conference. maybe at www.I_h8_U_all.com > >peace man, relax and hold your horses before you hurt someone. > >yours KOHUT. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Cute photo of Moby on his tour bus Date: 27 Sep 1999 15:16:26 EDT Joe - that was sooo amazing!!! thank you soo much for sharing ..love the picture too!! that must have been such a neat experience to interview moby :) i am glad that you asked him all the questions about the movie awards..i was wondering if he would actually go to the after parties :) now i know!!!! thank you for sharing! this was my favorite part " My main inspiration is to make music that I really like, to make something that I love listening to and that affects me on some sort of strong emotional level, be it something melancholy, something passionate or aggressive, but just the idea of making something dynamic and compassionate that hopefully other people will love as well. " we do right???!!! ~amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 15:17:23 EDT yeah...anywhere is cool with me to meet.....i mean, it is a nine oclock show so i will definitely be in the city a lot earlier....later...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) messy people + re:t-shirts Date: 27 Sep 1999 12:31:10 -0700 (PDT) I'm new, but... --- April Kincaid wrote: > I COULDN'T LOVE YOU MORE... THANK YOU..... First, chill with the caps, it's annoying. It means you are shouting. Unless you really shout in everyday life, it's proper net manners to not use them. --- Someone else... >>you know, there are some people, who have this >>sense of,.. maybe you have already heard this >>word before, .. humour. and this people somehow >>appreciate when you make , you know this ?, >>... a joke. >> obviously you're not one of them. Perhaps you should take your own advice. When someone says, "SHADDAP STOOPID" I assume it's meant in good humor. >>other thing is what you wrote about the >>t-shirts and why our world is so f**ked. if >>you really care that much about what other >>people think about your appearance and your >>actions, did you think about ME before you >>wrote that i was stupid ? I don't think he thought it was stupid, I think he was merely pointing out a difference between Eurpoean and American culture. To him, it made him feel like a teeny-bopper fan. The key words are "to him". Never did he say that anyone was stupid. Also, while I don't think you are stupid for wearing an artist's t-shirt, I do think you are incorrect for using both argument ad hominem (attacking the arguer) and argument ad populum (using popularity of opinion to further your point). Your arguments aren't valid, and this whole issue is one of jumping the gun at someone's PERSONAL comment. >>peace man, relax and hold your horses before >>you hurt someone. But it's okay to blast him personally on the listserv. Bah, you're a hypocrite as well. ::groan:: ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) messy people + re:t-shirts Date: 27 Sep 1999 14:37:59 -0500 Can we drop the whole t-shirt argument? When Brad made the comment, I think he was doing just that - making a comment. It was not meant as a slur against anyones fashion sensibilities. Personally i couldn't care less what any of you wear to a concert. I would bet that the majority of the list feels this way also. If anyone wishes to continue to discuss fashion... i believe they might have a wonderful time at alt.gap.kids And also, when replying to someones comment... unless it directly affects all of us on the list... try sending it DIRECTLY to that person instead of over the list. I hate getting 30 emails that say, "I agree" "You are so right" or the worst - "Me too" I'm not trying to offend anyone, so please take this in good humor and don't flame me. thanks! ------rob DJ Pagan wrote: > I'm new, but... > > --- April Kincaid > wrote: > > I COULDN'T LOVE YOU MORE... THANK YOU..... > > First, chill with the caps, it's annoying. It > means you are shouting. Unless you really shout > in everyday life, it's proper net manners to not > use them. > > --- Someone else... > >>you know, there are some people, who have this > >>sense of,.. maybe you have already heard this > >>word before, .. humour. and this people somehow > >>appreciate when you make , you know this ?, > >>... a joke. > >> obviously you're not one of them. > > Perhaps you should take your own advice. When > someone says, "SHADDAP STOOPID" I assume it's > meant in good humor. > > >>other thing is what you wrote about the > >>t-shirts and why our world is so f**ked. if > >>you really care that much about what other > >>people think about your appearance and your > >>actions, did you think about ME before you > >>wrote that i was stupid ? > > I don't think he thought it was stupid, I think > he was merely pointing out a difference between > Eurpoean and American culture. To him, it made > him feel like a teeny-bopper fan. The key words > are "to him". Never did he say that anyone was > stupid. > > Also, while I don't think you are stupid for > wearing an artist's t-shirt, I do think you are > incorrect for using both argument ad hominem > (attacking the arguer) and argument ad populum > (using popularity of opinion to further your > point). Your arguments aren't valid, and this > whole issue is one of jumping the gun at > someone's PERSONAL comment. > > >>peace man, relax and hold your horses before > >>you hurt someone. > > But it's okay to blast him personally on the > listserv. Bah, you're a hypocrite as well. ::groan:: > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: (mobility) WDMHFSB Tracklistings Date: 27 Sep 1999 13:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Straight from Mute... CD 1 (CDMUTE230) 1. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? 2. Flying Foxes 3. Princess 4. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? - Video CD 2 (LCDMUTE230) 1. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (ATB Remix) 2. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Ferry Corsten Remix) 3. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Subsonic Legacy Remix) 12" (12MUTE230) 1. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (ATB Remix) 2. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Ferry Corsten Remix) 3. Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Sharp Roadster Club Edit) Just because I love you all... ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Subject: (mobility) Re: Skittles, age, and me Date: 27 Sep 1999 13:06:39 -0700 >I wish I listened to Moby @ 6! When I was 6, Moby was 5!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blake Edwards" Subject: Re: (mobility) messy people + re:t-shirts Date: 27 Sep 1999 17:58:54 EDT it is my belief that posts of a confrontational and _deconstructive_ nature can be quite positive. a sense of humour _is_ present, (as mr. pagan alluded to below) though it is one that i don't expect the average _moby_ fan to appreciate. ;) i called him stupid because that is how he sounded in his post. something about sitting around the campfire and dreaming of hugging and kissing moby. my apologies for the all caps. purely unintentional. greetings. >From: DJ Pagan >Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) messy people + re:t-shirts >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:31:10 -0700 (PDT) > >I'm new, but... > >--- April Kincaid >wrote: > > I COULDN'T LOVE YOU MORE... THANK YOU..... > >First, chill with the caps, it's annoying. It >means you are shouting. Unless you really shout >in everyday life, it's proper net manners to not >use them. > >--- Someone else... > >>you know, there are some people, who have this > >>sense of,.. maybe you have already heard this > >>word before, .. humour. and this people somehow > >>appreciate when you make , you know this ?, > >>... a joke. > >> obviously you're not one of them. > >Perhaps you should take your own advice. When >someone says, "SHADDAP STOOPID" I assume it's >meant in good humor. > > >>other thing is what you wrote about the > >>t-shirts and why our world is so f**ked. if > >>you really care that much about what other > >>people think about your appearance and your > >>actions, did you think about ME before you > >>wrote that i was stupid ? > >I don't think he thought it was stupid, I think >he was merely pointing out a difference between >Eurpoean and American culture. To him, it made >him feel like a teeny-bopper fan. The key words >are "to him". Never did he say that anyone was >stupid. > >Also, while I don't think you are stupid for >wearing an artist's t-shirt, I do think you are >incorrect for using both argument ad hominem >(attacking the arguer) and argument ad populum >(using popularity of opinion to further your >point). Your arguments aren't valid, and this >whole issue is one of jumping the gun at >someone's PERSONAL comment. > > >>peace man, relax and hold your horses before > >>you hurt someone. > >But it's okay to blast him personally on the >listserv. Bah, you're a hypocrite as well. ::groan:: > >===== >DJ Pagan >"Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Issues Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:01:06 +1200 I love it how we seem to get caught up in the moment and absolutely go nato on the little issues, big to some people of course. For example, Selling Out, Vegan/Vegetarian, Wearing Moby T-Shirts to Moby Concerts, being Hateful to other Members(when it is probably just joking or even Sarcasim). But as soon as these issues/points start to get interesting, someone, me included, writes in telling them to shut the fuck up. Maybe not so harsh, but the general meaning anyway. It's just funny to see the borderline crossed on sooo many occasions. I for one would luv to know why the world is all Phucked up. Apart from obvious reasons, please tell me how wearing the 'Shirt' because it makes you happy is the reason the world is Phucked. I realise it may have been meant as a reference to when April said Screw Everyone Else.... But I don't think it meant that if you want to go out for target practice at the local Grocery mart with an AK cause it makes you happy, then by all means, do it. It was probably a reference to most fashion disasters and their critics. If it was meant as a joke, then I am very sorry for Rambling for no reason, but it just seemed to be a very sensitive topic that was un-necessary to be raised. Caps, Maybe I'm Thick, but isn't it a little hard to distinguish between joke and serious, especially since we don't know the person. I'm Spent Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Too Late Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:04:24 +1200 Bugger Me, Too Late Now that you cleared that up mate, I feel real bad for sending that to everyone on the list along with this, sorry for wasting your time. Joe Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) Moby at Roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 18:05:34 -0400 The Roxy is pretty nice but still not as intimate or cool as Irving Plaza where I saw 2 of the best Moby concerts there. Actually the best Chemical Brothers and the most intense Underworld show (it was there US debut as Underworld mkII with a 3and 1/2 hour long show, fucking brillant). Ok now i am rambling in other words the Roxy is ok.Bye Keith NP - Vapourspace - Gravatational Arch of 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby at Roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 18:01:01 -0400 I've never been to the Roxy for a show, but I have been there on a regular Saturday night, and to be honest, I wasn't too thrilled with the crowd or the music. d > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Clancy [SMTP:orb2@erols.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 6:06 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Moby at Roxy > > The Roxy is pretty nice but still not as intimate or cool as Irving > Plaza where I saw 2 of the best Moby concerts there. Actually the > best > Chemical Brothers and the most intense Underworld show (it was there > US > debut as Underworld mkII with a 3and 1/2 hour long show, fucking > brillant). Ok now i am rambling in other words the Roxy is ok.Bye > Keith > > NP - Vapourspace - Gravatational Arch of 10 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Relax, People Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:19:27 +1200 NOW EVERYBODY, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, EASE DOWN, THESE ARE JUST OPINIONS, GOOD OR BAD, THE ROXY IS AN EXPERIENCE, JUST DON'T BRING OUT THE WEAPONS, I SMELL ANOTHER ISSUE. Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking ,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Jokin g,Joking,Joking........ Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: (mobility) Moby loves Tom Green + Why the Music Industry is Screwed Date: 27 Sep 1999 15:21:06 PDT If anybody remembers everybody hating Tom Green and saying anybody who likes Tom Green should be shot? Well, along with me, MOBY WOULD BE SHOT because he said in Subbacultcha's interview he "also met Tom Green. I love his show." So, before you cast the first stone, umm.... [insert clever smarmy remark] The music industry is screwed because of the mass marketing of rebellion and true music and people my age (16 ish) who buy rebellion in a jewel case. People who get Korn, Metallica, etc because it's "alternative" and somehow a rebellion against their parent's music (which was a rebellion against their parents music). Most people, this is pretentious I know and maybe wrong, either swallow the crap this world shoves down their throats, or swallows the crap this world shoves down their throats under the guise of rebellion. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Relax, People Date: 27 Sep 1999 18:12:36 -0400 I'm not saying I didn't have a good time. I was with friends and I try to make the best out of every situation. However, if Moby wasn't going to be there, I probably wouldn't be there either. It was ok. Don't worry, I won't be bustin out the AK anytime soon. d > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Parkes [SMTP:parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 6:19 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Relax, People > > NOW EVERYBODY, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, EASE DOWN, THESE ARE JUST OPINIONS, > GOOD > OR BAD, THE ROXY IS AN EXPERIENCE, JUST DON'T BRING OUT THE WEAPONS, I > SMELL ANOTHER ISSUE. > > Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking, > Joking > ,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking,Joking > ,Jokin > g,Joking,Joking........ > > > > > Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Hand" Subject: RE: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 19:41:57 -0700 Hmm I'd like to meet whomever wherever for the Roxy show :P yeah I just heard Why Does MY hEart feel so bad on a Buffy the vampire slayer promo neat stuff... anyways umm bye chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) Issues Date: 27 Sep 1999 17:56:57 -0700 (PDT) --- Joseph Parkes wrote: > Caps, Maybe I'm Thick, but isn't it a little > hard to distinguish between joke and serious, > especially since we don't know the person. Touche. Point well taken. However, I assume the best from everyone until they give me otherwise. An attitude that has made a lot of friends and gotten me hurt a few times. ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 21:00:02 EDT yeah...so we should get like a headcount of all the people going to see him at the Roxy....we can all have a little mobility party of our own you know...perhaps even find some way to invite Moby ( wishful thinking) and party the whole nite...well...take care...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robyniwitz@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at Roxy Date: 27 Sep 1999 21:06:55 EDT does the roxy have a balcony a la irving plaza? Robyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) messy people + re:t-shirts Date: 27 Sep 1999 23:37:23 EDT In a message dated 9/27/99 2:33:11 PM Central Daylight Time, djpagan@yahoo.com writes: << it's proper net manners to not use them. >> Beautifuly said. ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Skittles, age, and me Date: 27 Sep 1999 23:40:23 EDT In a message dated 9/27/99 3:08:31 PM Central Daylight Time, michael.demattei@milliman.com writes: << When I was 6, Moby was 5!!! >> Must be nice!! ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "trance former" Subject: (mobility) ANOTHER MOBY COMMERCIAL... Date: 27 Sep 1999 21:31:16 PDT sup all, man, how far is this going to go, Porcelain is the latest of Moby commercial uses, and for a Baileys to boot, what tha fuck, i thought Moby didn't drink, and tha main thing for me is that Porcelain is my favourite and must emotional song EVER, Moby or not...well i just have to hope he'll use that money wisely again, charaties, etc... ...ya just saw tha latest Bodyrock video, pretty funny, Moby and his kewl glasses, but, man that song is really annoying, it's his worst in my books... anywayz, i'll be happier next time... peace djAHIMSA DO FORGET ABOUT EARTHDANCE!!!CHECK LOCAL LISTINGS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 00:20:45 -0500 >man, how far is this going to go, Porcelain is the latest of Moby commercial >uses, Why do you have to demonize the dollar? If averice is one's main and only driving goal in life, if it takes one over to the point that they destroy others for profit, or because of indifference, then I can see the evils of commercialism. As moby himself has noted on this list, he has had to find a healthy medium road between "selling out" as people have accused him of and performing and creating for himself. What's it matter? First off, I'm sure his record company is responsible for his tracks being used in commercials, aside from apossible royalty check or maybe some oral authorization,I'm sure he had no role in it whatsoever. Moby's making a buck, but more importantly he's making music. Money and commercialism is merely a secondary effect. If his music didn't apeal to anyone, no record company would give him a contract, he woulnd't make any more music, he's flip burgers or use his degree for more constructive endeavors. Just because your favorite moby song ends up on MTV(if you happen to hate MTV) or on a commercial doesn't mean anything beyond this: the company needed a background song. It doesn't mean that capitalism is in herently evil. It doesn't mean that the artist has sold out. It doesn't mean his company has screwed him, and it doesn't mean the music industry is a sham. It's merely business as usual. Just be happy that moby can make a living(which he has to do regardless!)doing something he loves and that we can enjoy. >and for a Baileys to boot, what tha fuck, i thought Moby didn't drink, I have noticed alot of people on this list doing this--projecting their values on moby(though this may not be the case in this instance, and I appologize if it is, but moby is not a "straight edge") People have assumed that he is "christian" or "vegan" or abstinate, or bi, or gay, or whatever they happen to be. Everytime an instance comes up contridicting their preconcieved notions, they always write something like, "I thought moby didn't drive cars because of pollution" or "I thought Moby didn't date porn stars because he's christian" or something equally mundane. First: I listen to moby for his music, not hsi politics or religion, or anything else. I could be diametrically opposed to everything he believes and still enjoy his music. Why? Because his music has VERY LITTLE to do with his beliefs. He may sample some gospel, or he may have the occasional lyrical part regarding how "everything is wrong" but none of it implies any specific politics. Only the occasional essay that he inserts into his CD covers are politically oriented. 90% of his tracks don't even have any lyrics. Are you telling me that instruments and electronically produced sounds can convey complex ideas? Of course not. Moby's politics may be a topic of discussion and interest, but they certainly are extrinsic of his music. Other than his essays and his personal writings or statements, I don't think anyone can or should draw conclusions regarding his beliefs, politics, or anything else. Moby writes and performs good music. Try listening to it for what it is, good music. Chris Bourke. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I hurd a rumor..... Date: 28 Sep 1999 01:28:27 EDT Hi all, recently, I heard that Moby was comming back to Michigan..... ( I almost shit myself). Then, I looked on Moby.org, and it said no more Michigan dates....... Can someone tell me whats goin on? I think its just a misunderstanding...... ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mobyee@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ANOTHER MOBY COMMERCIAL... Date: 28 Sep 1999 02:33:12 EDT "i thought Moby didn't drink".....actually it was said earlier that moby did have a beer every now and then... and what makes you think he wouldn't use the money wisely, he does every other time... ~courtney~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) wheres moby? Date: 28 Sep 1999 05:33:52 -0700 (PDT) i got the playlist for the 7 hour ELECTRO CIRCUS but it doesnt credit MOBY anywhere! he played 3 moby songs and he didnt even credit them! uh!!! i do have the list for JOSH WINKs set so if anyone wants that i got it for ya.... bye! ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: (mobility) Chemical Bros. (NO MOBY) Date: 28 Sep 1999 09:49:36 -0400 Just out of curiosity, were any of you at the 9:30 Club last night for the absolutely mind-blowing set by the Chemical Brothers??? WOW...what a great show! They're on their way to St. Louis today, so strap on those dancing shoes and go see them. They were really, really brilliant. Gotta run...cheers! Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:04:30 -0400 Sounds peachy to me. d > -----Original Message----- > From: Chilidiba9@aol.com [SMTP:Chilidiba9@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 9:00 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy > > yeah...so we should get like a headcount of all the people going to > see him > at the Roxy....we can all have a little mobility party of our own you > know...perhaps even find some way to invite Moby ( wishful thinking) > and > party the whole nite...well...take care...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:35:05 -0400 Good point. I think we need to get to the basic facts. Moby makes amazing music. His priority isn't being the background music for commercials and t.v. shows and the like. People are just picking up on it and using it. His music is just as wonderful as it always was, whether it's being commercialized or not. That's why we're on this list, that's why we like him as a person. His drive is music, and not t.v. If his music was shitty, I could understand being upset but we have all agreed that Play is wonderful. Others are picking up on it too. There's nothing wrong with that. And I agree, the record company is probaby responsible for the commercials, not moby. As for personal beliefs and such, who cares? So moby drinks and you don't, or you meat and he doesn't. We're all different. I'm kinda glad he's so open about his beliefs. I like to read his essays, whether I totally agree with them or not. It's nothing to get upset over (not that anyone really is), you tell me your opinion and I'll tell you mine, it's what makes this list flow. Does anyone on the list remember the idea for WWMD bracelets? Reading over this, it sounds so crappy. This was such a boring response. d > First off, I'm sure > his record company is responsible for his tracks being used in > commercials, > aside from apossible royalty check or maybe some oral > authorization,I'm sure > he had no role in it whatsoever. Moby's making a buck, but more > importantly > he's making music. > If his music didn't apeal to anyone, no record company would give him > a > contract, he woulnd't make any more music, he's flip burgers or use > his > degree for more constructive endeavors. Just because your favorite > moby > song ends up on MTV(if you happen to hate MTV) or on a commercial > doesn't > mean anything beyond this: the company needed a background song. It > doesn't mean that capitalism is in herently evil. It doesn't mean > that the > artist has sold out. It doesn't mean his company has screwed him, and > it > doesn't mean the music industry is a sham. It's merely business as > usual. > Just be happy that moby can make a living(which he has to do > regardless!)doing something he loves and that we can enjoy. > > I have noticed alot of people on this list doing this--projecting > their > values on moby(though this may not be the case in this instance, and I > appologize if it is, but moby is not a "straight edge") People have > assumed > that he is "christian" or "vegan" or abstinate, or bi, or gay, or > whatever > they happen to be. Everytime an instance comes up contridicting their > preconcieved notions, they always write something like, "I thought > moby > didn't drive cars because of pollution" or "I thought Moby didn't date > porn > stars because he's christian" or something equally mundane. > > First: I listen to moby for his music, not hsi politics or religion, > or > anything else. I could be diametrically opposed to everything he > believes > and still enjoy his music. Why? Because his music has VERY LITTLE to > do > with his beliefs. He may sample some gospel, or he may have the > occasional > lyrical part regarding how "everything is wrong" but none of it > implies any > specific politics. Only the occasional essay that he inserts into his > CD > covers are politically oriented. 90% of his tracks don't even have > any > lyrics. Are you telling me that instruments and electronically > produced > sounds can convey complex ideas? Of course not. Moby's politics may > be a > topic of discussion and interest, but they certainly are extrinsic of > his > music. Other than his essays and his personal writings or statements, > I > don't think anyone can or should draw conclusions regarding his > beliefs, > politics, or anything else. > > Moby writes and performs good music. Try listening to it for what it > is, > good music. > > Chris Bourke. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: (mobility) Updates! Date: 28 Sep 1999 16:57:43 +0200 hello Mobiliteers, Someone already posted the tracklistings & catalogue numbers of the WDMHFSB releases. I will update them by giving the discography info on 2 promo's I got today. :) Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? radio promo (3:43) [Sept 1999] UK CD promo, Mute, RCDMute230 1 3:43 Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? promo 1 [Sept 1999] UK 12" promo, Mute, P12Mute230 ????? any info on this would be appreciated! (Daniel??) Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? promo 2 [Sept 1999] UK 12" promo, Mute, PL12Mute230 A _:__ Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Sharp Roadster Remix) AA _:__ Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? (Subsonic Legacy Remix) I don't like the Sharp mix... This kind of music just doesn't go with the vocal samples. There's hardly any melody, just hardsteppin' house rhythms with sounds. Subsonic Legacy on the other hand turned this great Moby track into a beautiful dreamy breakbeat excursion, WOW! Here's another update for the 'remixes Moby did for other artists' section. For the Moby mixes of "You Gotta Believe In Something" of Fierce Ruling Diva there are only listed 2 obscure 12"s with on each of them one different Moby mix. Now I found a German 8-track CD single that has both Moby mixes on it together with a bunch of other GREAT remixes!: Fierce Ruling Diva - "You Gotta Believe In Something" (39:11) [1992] GE CD, React/EastWest, 4509-90774-2 1 5:19 You Gotta Believe In Something (Radio Mix) 2 5:21 You Gotta Believe In Something (Atomix) 3 5:01 You Gotta Believe In Something (Turntable Hype Mix) 4 5:21 You Gotta Believe In Something (Moby's Sweet Mix) 5 6:29 You Gotta Believe In Something (Moby's Love Of God Mix) 6 3:01 You Gotta Believe In Something (Fingers In The Dyke Mix) 7 4:19 You Gotta Believe In Something (I Believe Mix) 8 4:03 You Gotta Believe In Something (Original Atomic Slide Mix) The Sweet Mix is really nice and mellow (kinda Barracuda sound, but not quite..) I have never heard Moby like this before, if I had to describe the musical genre it would be a sort of "soulful deep-house" that I thought only black deep-house producers could make... wow, that Moby guy keeps surprising me! (in a pleasant way, that is!) The Love Of God Mix is Moby as we know him, banging beats with hectic acid bleeps and no melody and most of the time no bassline. Because Moby used all kinds of samples so cleverly, this pretty minimal and hard track turned out to be far from boring! nice mix! 2 other great (re)mixes are the Turntable Hype Mix and the Fingers In The Dyke Mix. That's all for today :) (<>,,<>) np: Fierce Ruling Diva - You Gotta Believe... (Original Atomic Slide Mix) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:12:11 -0400 Sorry, I didn't mean to post this to the list. If people are interested in meeting before the Roxy show, please email me privately and I'm sure we can think of something fun. d > -----Original Message----- > From: Danielle Logue [SMTP:dlogue@SHAPBLOCK.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:05 AM > To: 'mobility@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: (mobility) moby at roxy > > Sounds peachy to me. > d > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chilidiba9@aol.com [SMTP:Chilidiba9@aol.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 9:00 PM > > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy > > > > yeah...so we should get like a headcount of all the people going to > > see him > > at the Roxy....we can all have a little mobility party of our own > you > > know...perhaps even find some way to invite Moby ( wishful thinking) > > and > > party the whole nite...well...take care...elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Clancy Subject: (mobility) L12" of Why does my Heart so Bad Date: 28 Sep 1999 12:42:26 -0400 On Mute records site for fututre releases there is a listing for a L12: of Why does my heart feel so bad on the 25 of October. Hopefully this has the Rollo and Sister Bliss mix on it. Sidenote on the 18 of October the Depeche Mode singles boxsets are being re-released by Mute again in better packaging. Bye Keith NP - Tori Amos - Juarez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoffrey Sproule" Subject: Re: (mobility) That Guy (was: moby at the scala on wednesday) Date: 28 Sep 1999 18:11:01 +0100 well I think I am entitled to wear what the bloody hell I wanted after spending the best part of 500 travelling from n Ireland to see moby ok!!! > It must be different in England. NO ONE in the states wants to be THAT guy > who wears an artists tshirt to said artist's concert. I don't know if it's > pretentions, geeky, or just a bit too Japanese, but no one around here would > do such a thing. I guess in the grand scheme of things, it's not such a > social faus pas. But it is like screaming, "I'm a Fan! I'm a Fan!" > > BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT) This is in regards to Porcelain being used in an advertisement... --- Christopher Michael Bourke wrote: >Why do you have to demonize the dollar? >If averice is one's main and only driving >goal in life, if it takes one over to the point >that they destroy others for profit, or >because of indifference, then I can see the >evils of commercialism. Well put. >Moby's making a buck, but more >importantly he's making music. Money and >commercialism is merely a secondary effect. What I find funny is that the people who damn him for "selling out" would probably be in a much different position if it was their career on the line. How many of you would not work for pay? How many of you would refuse more money at work if they just put your already finished work elsewhere? Not many of you, I'm sure. I used to think musicians sold out as well... then I realized that they are just making a living. Those who complain about rebellion and selling out usually are still supported at home. For those of you who are not... my apologies. I would like to hear your comments personally. >It doesn't mean that capitalism is in herently >evil. It doesn't mean that the artist has sold >out. It doesn't mean his company has screwed >him, and it doesn't mean the music industry is >a sham. It's merely business as usual. I think Capitalism is inherently evil because it plays off of the normal greed in all of us. That instinct for survival. However, a person living in the system is not evil because he is forced to work in the system. >Everytime an instance comes up contridicting >their preconcieved notions, they always write >something like, "I thought moby didn't drive >cars because of pollution" or "I thought >Moby didn't date porn stars because he's >christian" or something equally mundane. It's a circumstantial argument that most people give. Because he is this, he MUST be this as well. I'm a Pagan, and I love the song Run On. Should I not like it because I don't believe in Christ, and I don't think "God Almighty is gonna cut 'im down"? >Are you telling me that instruments and >electronically produced sounds can convey >complex ideas? Of course not. Yes they can. Underworld is an example I cite most of all when this comes around. All music can convey complex ideas... you just have to look for your own personal meaning (or non-meaning) in them. BTW, I posted this to the listserv for discussion purposes only. Flame me off list, contribute to the conversation on list. Ciao! ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bart van Eijck" Subject: Re: (mobility) L12" of Why does my Heart so Bad Date: 28 Sep 1999 21:18:29 +0200 Keith wrote: >On Mute records site for fututre releases there is a listing for a L12: >of Why does my heart feel so bad on the 25 of October. Hopefully this >has the Rollo and Sister Bliss mix on it. That's great news! But where did you find this? I have searched http://www.mutelibtech.com from top to bottom (I think..) and I couldn't find it. (<>,,<>) np: Fierce Ruling Diva - You Gotta Believe... (Moby's Sweet Mix) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SirAgresta@aol.com Subject: (mobility) i have a question Date: 28 Sep 1999 16:04:44 EDT hey, i moved to darien, ct, in 1987 and all i knew about the people who moved out of the house i moved into is that their name was hall and they went to one of the carolinas i think... now i find out that this techno god guy moby was born and raised in darien and his mom left here sometime in the late eighties... if anybody knows the street or adress that moby used to live at in darien, could you tell me cause i got a funny feeling i'm sleeping in his bedroom. thanks. siragresta ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell, Shera" Subject: RE: (mobility) Chemical Bros. (NO MOBY) Date: 28 Sep 1999 16:30:59 -0400 This message is in MIME format. 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Didn't catch the 9:30 show but saw them at the WHFestival this weekend.  They were excellent!!

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Just out of curiosity, were any of you at the 9:30 Club last night for the
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run...cheers!

Joe



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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF09F0.64CC8AB0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Novotny, Joe" Subject: RE: (mobility) Chemical Bros. (NO MOBY) Date: 28 Sep 1999 16:41:17 -0400 The Chemicals said that they weren't too happy with the HFStival and that they didn't really enjoy playing it, but that all in all it could have been worse. They genuinely seemed to enjoy the 9:30, though. I think it was the best concert I've seen all year long. I took some photos and I hope that they turn out. It was so hard to take pictures since the lighting was so bad, so I hope that I can at least use a copuole of photos for my web page. Cheers! Joe -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:31 PM Didn't catch the 9:30 show but saw them at the WHFestival this weekend. They were excellent!! -----Original Message----- ] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:50 AM Just out of curiosity, were any of you at the 9:30 Club last night for the absolutely mind-blowing set by the Chemical Brothers??? WOW...what a great show! They're on their way to St. Louis today, so strap on those dancing shoes and go see them. They were really, really brilliant. Gotta run...cheers! Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 15:47:08 -0500 >>=me >=DJ Pagan <> >>It doesn't mean that capitalism is in herently >>evil. It doesn't mean that the artist has sold >>out. It doesn't mean his company has screwed >>him, and it doesn't mean the music industry is >>a sham. It's merely business as usual. > >I think Capitalism is inherently evil because it >plays off of the normal greed in all of us. That >instinct for survival. However, a person living >in the system is not evil because he is forced to >work in the system. > Ah, see how an on topic message can lead to a debate that is seemingly off topic? This happened about six months ago and when another person and I started a debate about it, many were confused, lost, pissed off etc.... FUCK THEM. This is the point where the debate becomes relevent to the m/l; however, since you designated it as your own opinions, and considering the general attitude of the rest of the m/l over this, I'll let sleeping dogs lie. >>Are you telling me that instruments and >>electronically produced sounds can convey >>complex ideas? Of course not. > >Yes they can. Underworld is an example I cite >most of all when this comes around. All music >can convey complex ideas... you just have to look >for your own personal meaning (or non-meaning) in >them. What you are refering to is interpretation; subjective perspective. A random(though melodic) creation of notes and sounds CANNOT convey specific, objective concepts. For instance; If I create an ambient track it can affect one's emotions or moods, subjective things; They can't convey that I'm opposed to strip mining or some other issue; only lyrics can do that. The limitation of instrumental music is clear, it can only affect the heart, not the mind. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doogsidog Subject: Re: (mobility) i have a question Date: 28 Sep 1999 13:58:23 -0700 (PDT) im sorry but that is just plain absurd. the likelihood of this actually being true is about a million to one, IMHO. -adam PS: if I, being a so-called "fan", happened to move to a town where my alleged "techno god" once lived, i think i would have thought of this a bit sooner. that is unless i moved to that town 10 years ago and didnt become interested in such a musician until now. in that case, i think i would be completely obsessed with finding out if i were right about my suspicions. just a thought. still very peculiar. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) ANOTHER MOBY COMMERCIAL... Date: 28 Sep 1999 14:27:42 PDT And what's wrong with drinking occasionally? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: RE: (mobility) Chemical Bros. (NO MOBY) Date: 28 Sep 1999 14:29:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: Novotny, Joe > > Just out of curiosity, were any of you at the > 9:30 Club last night for the absolutely > mind-blowing set by the Chemical Brothers??? I wish I had clubs like that around here. Anyway, I have seen the Chemical Brothers twice in concert (once w/ Fatboy Slim!) and their sets are just amazing. If your booty ain't shaking, you best quit the fakin'! ;) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) --- Christopher Michael Bourke wrote: > > Ah, see how an on topic message can lead to a > debate that is seemingly off topic? This > happened about six months ago and when another > person and I started a debate about it, many > were confused, lost, pissed off etc.... > FUCK THEM. Well put. Why is it that just because something appears on the mailing list, everyone must approve of it, or it gets thrown off. The topic is relatively close to Moby (as close as the out-of-hand t-shirt thing). > however, since you designated it as your own > opinions, and considering the general attitude > of the rest of the m/l over this, I'll let > sleeping dogs lie. I say if that it's pertinent, and we can start some genuine (not flaming) conversation on the listserv, let's do it. What dogs do you want to sleep when it's so much more fun to play with them? :) > What you are refering to is interpretation; > subjective perspective. A random (though > melodic) creation of notes and sounds CANNOT > convey specific, objective concepts. Too often humans rely on words to describe something they believe. We can create a visual representation of something, advertisements do it all the time, to convey a specific, objective concept. Why not an audible? Here's and off-topic (off of the off-topic discussion) thought. Nothing really is objective, everything is subject to whether we believe it or not, no matter the scientific truth of it. Objective things seem to be what the majority of people hold to be true, and the others must accept. Primary and secondary characteristics if you know any Berkeley. > The limitation of instrumental music is clear, > it can only affect the heart, not the mind. Taken out of context, this statement is wrong, but I do see and accept your point about instrumental music. However, it can convey an artist's personal thoughts about a subject, in some cases. Others, it does no such thing. When I use Underworld as an example, the music and the lyrics together can convey thoughts about urban progress. It does need the lyrics to make it's point, BUT the music behind them emphasis, and further defines that objective point in a subjective manner. If I am opposed to strip mining, and make a song about this topic, the sounds of smashing boulders and screaming people would help emphasis the concept. A more Moby related example would be "The Blue Light of the Underwater Sun". Ball to your court. ;) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) ANOTHER MOBY COMMERCIAL... Date: 28 Sep 1999 14:50:06 -0700 (PDT) --- jj fish wrote: > And what's wrong with drinking occasionally? Question: Are you purposely trying to start a flame war? I believe the comment was that Moby admitted he drank every once in a while, even though it's against conservative (and we know his thoughts about this) Christain ethics. I don't think anyone said it was wrong. However, I have been wrong before. I could use a Guinness right now, in fact. :) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Vodra [Paradox]" Subject: (mobility) Chems at 9:30 Date: 28 Sep 1999 18:07:28 -0400 I was there! Spent the whole time on the balcony stage-right side. It was quite an excellent show. I'm not into their music as much as I am Orbital, Underworld, and Moby, but live they kicked major ass. It's too bad those t-shirts were $25! They were okay, but I didn't think they were worth that damn much. I was kind of surprised that everyone didn't stream out of the club after the show. They all kind of stood around and hung out. As I drove away I saw a massive crowd of people gathered right outside the 9:30 club door. What was up with that? Were they waiting to see Tom & Ed? Paul V. psyched to see Afro-Celt Sound System at 9:30 tomorrow night! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 15:58:19 PDT > > >>Are you telling me that instruments and > >>electronically produced sounds can convey > >>complex ideas? Of course not. I think the use of sampling is one of the greatest things to happen to music. Not only can you redefine and reinterpret instrumental themes, you can also express abstract ideas or themes without blatantly singing it, but by weaving it into the musical tapestry. You can create thought by contrasting samples, themes, etc. For instance, if I were to create an ambient track w/ Hitler talking on the right side, Ghandhi quotes on the left track, that would be confusing and interesting. If not pretentious :] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) i have a question Date: 28 Sep 1999 16:08:46 -0700 > hey, i moved to darien, ct, in 1987 and all i knew about the people who moved > out of the house i moved into is that their name was hall and they went to > one of the carolinas i think... now i find out that this techno god guy moby > was born and raised in darien and his mom left here sometime in the late > eighties... if anybody knows the street or adress that moby used to live at > in darien, could you tell me cause i got a funny feeling i'm sleeping in his > bedroom. > > Wow, for a MOBY fan, I would think that would be scary and cool. Weird. I > would also think it would be kinda like living in someones underwear drawer. > Think about it. If you've lived and grown up some place, all your real > memories are there. Where you lost your virginity, where you were sick for the > first time, where you played w/ your friends, where every thing important in > your young life happened (mostly). I know that I miss my old house so much, > and I even dream about it a lot. Thinking of other ppl living there is like > picturing ppl living in my closet and wearing my clothes or ppl living in my > kitchen, eathing my food. It's so sad and personal for me. I would be kinda > freaked out to live in the house where someone I admired grew up. Kinda > freaky. Hope you find out if it's the house! :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jj fish" Subject: Re: (mobility) ANOTHER MOBY COMMERCIAL... Date: 28 Sep 1999 16:06:40 PDT I was half joking... Who said it was against conservative and Christian ethics? Did Moby say this? Did you? Just wondering, but as a quote Christian unquote (I hate labels), I'd think that was kind of a hypocritical statement. > > And what's wrong with drinking occasionally? > >Question: Are you purposely trying to start a >flame war? I believe the comment was that Moby >admitted he drank every once in a while, even >though it's against conservative (and we know his >thoughts about this) Christain ethics. I don't >think anyone said it was wrong. However, I have >been wrong before. > >I could use a Guinness right now, in fact. :) > >===== >DJ Pagan >"Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tikva Morowati" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at Roxy Date: 28 Sep 1999 20:39:45 -0400 keith, did you see moby perform at the bowery ballroom in late july? cause it DEFINATELY beat the irving shows! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 6:05 PM > The Roxy is pretty nice but still not as intimate or cool as Irving > Plaza where I saw 2 of the best Moby concerts there. Actually the best > Chemical Brothers and the most intense Underworld show (it was there US > debut as Underworld mkII with a 3and 1/2 hour long show, fucking > brillant). Ok now i am rambling in other words the Roxy is ok.Bye Keith > > NP - Vapourspace - Gravatational Arch of 10 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) ANOTHER MOBY COMMERCIAL... Date: 28 Sep 1999 18:02:56 -0700 (PDT) --- jj fish wrote: > Who said it was against conservative and > Christian ethics? Did Moby say this? Did you? There were two seperate statements. Allow me to clarify: 1) Moby said he had a beer every once in a while. 2) It is against conservative Christain ethics to drink. Someone else had stated the first statement. I stated the second statement. I say this becaue I grew up in a Methodist household, a denomination that abhors drinking, smoking, and/or gambling. Unless it's changed since I left the fold. > Just wondering, but as a "Christian" (I hate > labels), I'd think that was kind of a > hypocritical statement. No hypocrisy, I'm not Christian. ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamie Baade" Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 21:07:57 -0500 I agree with almost everything said here... MOBY makes some of the most beautiful music ever...we all agree on that so for others to continue to see that and use it in commercials or on TV is fine let the world hear and understand what we have all known all along...that MOBY's music is simply the greatest!!!! and he is simply a genius! love ya all Jamie ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:35 AM > Good point. I think we need to get to the basic facts. Moby > makes amazing music. His priority isn't being the background music for > commercials and t.v. shows and the like. People are just picking up on > it and using it. His music is just as wonderful as it always was, > whether it's being commercialized or not. That's why we're on this > list, that's why we like him as a person. His drive is music, and not > t.v. > If his music was shitty, I could understand being upset but we > have all agreed that Play is wonderful. Others are picking up on it > too. There's nothing wrong with that. And I agree, the record company > is probaby responsible for the commercials, not moby. > As for personal beliefs and such, who cares? So moby drinks and > you don't, or you meat and he doesn't. We're all different. I'm kinda > glad he's so open about his beliefs. I like to read his essays, whether > I totally agree with them or not. It's nothing to get upset over (not > that anyone really is), you tell me your opinion and I'll tell you mine, > it's what makes this list flow. Does anyone on the list remember the > idea for WWMD bracelets? > Reading over this, it sounds so crappy. This was such a boring > response. > d > > > > First off, I'm sure > > his record company is responsible for his tracks being used in > > commercials, > > aside from apossible royalty check or maybe some oral > > authorization,I'm sure > > he had no role in it whatsoever. Moby's making a buck, but more > > importantly > > he's making music. > > If his music didn't apeal to anyone, no record company would give him > > a > > contract, he woulnd't make any more music, he's flip burgers or use > > his > > degree for more constructive endeavors. Just because your favorite > > moby > > song ends up on MTV(if you happen to hate MTV) or on a commercial > > doesn't > > mean anything beyond this: the company needed a background song. It > > doesn't mean that capitalism is in herently evil. It doesn't mean > > that the > > artist has sold out. It doesn't mean his company has screwed him, and > > it > > doesn't mean the music industry is a sham. It's merely business as > > usual. > > Just be happy that moby can make a living(which he has to do > > regardless!)doing something he loves and that we can enjoy. > > > > I have noticed alot of people on this list doing this--projecting > > their > > values on moby(though this may not be the case in this instance, and I > > appologize if it is, but moby is not a "straight edge") People have > > assumed > > that he is "christian" or "vegan" or abstinate, or bi, or gay, or > > whatever > > they happen to be. Everytime an instance comes up contridicting their > > preconcieved notions, they always write something like, "I thought > > moby > > didn't drive cars because of pollution" or "I thought Moby didn't date > > porn > > stars because he's christian" or something equally mundane. > > > > First: I listen to moby for his music, not hsi politics or religion, > > or > > anything else. I could be diametrically opposed to everything he > > believes > > and still enjoy his music. Why? Because his music has VERY LITTLE to > > do > > with his beliefs. He may sample some gospel, or he may have the > > occasional > > lyrical part regarding how "everything is wrong" but none of it > > implies any > > specific politics. Only the occasional essay that he inserts into his > > CD > > covers are politically oriented. 90% of his tracks don't even have > > any > > lyrics. Are you telling me that instruments and electronically > > produced > > sounds can convey complex ideas? Of course not. Moby's politics may > > be a > > topic of discussion and interest, but they certainly are extrinsic of > > his > > music. Other than his essays and his personal writings or statements, > > I > > don't think anyone can or should draw conclusions regarding his > > beliefs, > > politics, or anything else. > > > > Moby writes and performs good music. Try listening to it for what it > > is, > > good music. > > > > Chris Bourke. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at Roxy Date: 28 Sep 1999 22:45:33 EDT i wish i had seen him but i was enjoying myself thouroughly in Brasil seeing my beautiful extended family...i had previously gone to an irving plaza show and it was very very intimate...so intimate that at one point, he offered a prize to anyone who guessed his next song correctly...he played the guitar version of Go for about 2 seconds until i guessed it right....i won two bottles of water ( much needed) and a towel....one of those great experiences one will live to tell his/her grandchildren...love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 28 Sep 1999 22:37:57 -0500 >Here's and off-topic (off of the off-topic >discussion) thought. Nothing really is >objective, Mathematics is. >everything is subject to whether we >believe it or not, no matter the scientific truth >of it. Objective things seem to be what the >majority of people hold to be true, and the >others must accept. Primary and secondary >characteristics if you know any Berkeley. Belief or disbeief is not a standard for objectivity/subjectivity. Belief is merely a component of knowledge(epistemology)check Bertrand Russell for that one... Objectivity can be obtained, to a point, in any human endeavor. The same scientific scrutiny used in mathematics or any other field that incorporates the scientific method(including social science, biology, and even philosophy) can be refined, debated and improved; each time, hopefully, improving it's objectivity, and thus Truth. Though according to rational epistemology, sadly we'll never be able to be 100% certain of knowledge, truth or objectivity, however we can get close, and for practical purposes to an acceptable degree, find these things. (knowledge is asomtotical sp?) << end off off topic as you described it>> >> The limitation of instrumental music is clear, >> it can only affect the heart, not the mind. > >Taken out of context, this statement is wrong, >but I do see and accept your point about >instrumental music. However, it can convey an >artist's personal thoughts about a subject, in >some cases. Others, it does no such thing. as in this one... >When I use Underworld as an example, the music >and the lyrics together can convey thoughts about >urban progress. It does need the lyrics to make >it's point, BUT the music behind them emphasis, >and further defines that objective point in a >subjective manner. If I am opposed to strip >mining, and make a song about this topic, the >sounds of smashing boulders and screaming people >would help emphasis the concept. A more Moby >related example would be "The Blue Light of the >Underwater Sun". Unfortunately I cannot comment on this, as I have never heard an Underworld track. I do agree that the instrumental portion of a song can and does in most cases reenforce the motif of the song(or at very least should), however it still doesn't address the point that instrumental music in Most if not all cases by itself does nothing but sound good or call to our emotions, leaving us with mere INTERPRETATIONS of what the author intended to convey. By itself, it cannot dilineate complex ideas, ideologies or anything of the sort, especially given (as you have pointed out) the subjectivity of such interpretations. For proof one need look no further than this list--the original post showed how people have misconceptions regarding moby's own ideologies. Where did these misconceptions come from? conflicting interpretations of his music--a primarily instrumental form(with a few exceptions of course). >Ball to your court. ;) Game Match Point? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Roy Batty" Subject: (mobility) Thanks 2 Date: 29 Sep 1999 06:31:55 GMT Hey, does anyone have any news regarding Thanks 2? I've been trying to get in touch with Greg Shipley, and trying to get some status reports out of him, but he has yet to respond to any of my e-mails. So, just wondering if anyone else has any clue what the status on this project is? I'm sure I'm not the only one who still wants to see this CD made. Dan Lee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: (mobility) I heard a roumor......... Please someone tell me whats going on this Date: 29 Sep 1999 02:53:32 EDT Hi all, recently, I heard that Moby was comming back to Michigan..... ( I almost shit myself). Then, I looked on Moby.org, and it said no more Michigan dates....... Can someone tell me whats goin on? I think its just a misunderstanding...... ~Felicia ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blake Edwards" Subject: Re: (mobility) ANOTHER MOBY COMMERCIAL... Date: 29 Sep 1999 03:33:38 EDT >Question: Are you purposely trying to start a >flame war? I believe the comment was that Moby >admitted he drank every once in a while, even >though it's against conservative (and we know his >thoughts about this) Christain ethics. I don't >think anyone said it was wrong. However, I have >been wrong before. flames keep this list alive. stop trying to deny it people! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: RE: (mobility) Thanks 2 Date: 29 Sep 1999 09:27:04 -0400 Well Honestly, we've all had the same problem. Greg is really busy. The last thing I heard from him, a week or two ago, was that he needed to transfer all the tape submissions to computer. It's in a very slow process but I think it's moving. Though I just finished my 3rd remix, and I havent received a reply from him if he's downloaded it yet. Greg? You out there? Who knows by the time this thing gets finished, I'll have a whole albums worth of remixes!!! :) Eric gold@netrox.net http://www.tonematrix.com PS. trust me i've wanted this to be released since the first release date, so if anything happens, I'll try my best to make sure it still gets done, regardless of who does it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tecknomonk@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) I heard a roumor......... Please someone tell me Date: 29 Sep 1999 09:51:10 EDT hey i haven't heard anything about him coming back to michigan again, so i can't=20 confirm anything. i think it'll be great if he comes back. i would love to=20 see him again. i think i've read somewhere that he's doing another US tour=20 after touring the UK... i might be wrong about this. btw, where did you hea= r=20 this rumor??? -tina tecknomonk@aol.com | djcake.cjb.net =E2=80=9CFrom my perspective, the world is old and big and I=E2=80=99m young = and little.=E2=80=9D=20 -Moby In a message dated 9/29/99 2:54:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 DJSkitles5@aol.com writes: << Hi all, recently, I heard that Moby was comming back to Michigan..... ( I=20 almost shit myself). Then, I looked on Moby.org, and it said no more=20 Michigan=20 dates....... Can someone tell me whats goin on? I think its just a=20 misunderstanding...... =20 ~Felicia >> =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mette Rogstad" Subject: (mobility) Hello!! Date: 29 Sep 1999 16:01:41 +0200 Hello, this is my introduction: * Name: Mette (female, nowegian girl) * Age: 17 years old * What is in your Moby collection: Everything is wrong, Play. * Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are: I first heard Moby at Reading 96. He was awsome!! Later i met him at the Virgin Megastore in London and talked to him. I have seen him twice after that, and i saw him last nigth. He was awsome as usual. I went backstage and talked to him. He is so nice and down to earth. He gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and signed my playlist. I can't wait to see him again. * Other artists you like: I like so many different artists, i love alot of different things. -I think that's it.... :) I can't wait to get to know the people here. Mette ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mette Rogstad" Subject: Re: (mobility) I heard a roumor......... Please someone tell mewhats going o... Date: 29 Sep 1999 16:03:38 +0200 I talked to him last nigth and he said that he was going back to the states after finiching 6 german dates. He didn't say where in the states though. Hope this helps, Mette ____________________________________ hey i haven't heard anything about him coming back to michigan again, so i can't confirm anything. i think it'll be great if he comes back. i would love to see him again. i think i've read somewhere that he's doing another US tour after touring the UK... i might be wrong about this. btw, where did you hear this rumor??? -tina tecknomonk@aol.com | djcake.cjb.net “From my perspective, the world is old and big and I’m young and little.” -Moby In a message dated 9/29/99 2:54:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DJSkitles5@aol.com writes: << Hi all, recently, I heard that Moby was comming back to Michigan..... ( I almost shit myself). Then, I looked on Moby.org, and it said no more Michigan dates....... Can someone tell me whats goin on? I think its just a misunderstanding...... ~Felicia >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 29 Sep 1999 08:13:44 -0700 (PDT) You're fun! :) --- Christopher Michael Bourke wrote: >>Here's and off-topic (off of the off-topic >>discussion) thought. Nothing really is >>objective, > > Mathematics is. Only because we subjectively agree upon the principles. If we tweak even the most basic agreed upon (and therefore subjective) principles in mathematics, they change dramatically. > Belief or disbeief is not a standard for > objectivity/subjectivity. Belief is merely > a component of knowledge (epistemology) > check Bertrand Russell for that one... Acceptance is a standard for objectivity/subjectivity, however. I could hold the secret of life, brought about in an objective manner to myself, but if no one believes (and they haven't yet! ;) ), it's not "truth", nor does anyone accept it from an "objective" viewpoint. > however it still doesn't address the point that > instrumental music in Most if not all cases by > itself does nothing but sound good or call to > our emotions, leaving us with mere > INTERPRETATIONS of what the author intended to > convey. Wouldn't any complex idea, by it's very nature, involve all sorts of interpretation? We could never truly know what the author is thinking even with words. We do get a better picture, however. MUCH better than without lyrics or words. > For proof one need look no further than this > list--the original post showed how people > have misconceptions regarding moby's own > ideologies. Where did these misconceptions > come from? conflicting interpretations of > his music--a primarily instrumental form (with > a few exceptions of course). That's odd, I didn't realize that were these conflicting misconceptions came from. To me, they would have come from the words in the inlays. I don't know how anyone can draw from music alone they could draw these ideas. Anyone else want to comment (who have read this far) as to how these inferences are drawn? Moreover, using solely instrumental forms, while nice to listen to, do not work. So... > Game Match Point? ::walks to net and extends hand:: ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJSkitles5@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) I heard a roumor......... Please someone tell mewhats Date: 29 Sep 1999 11:13:32 EDT In a message dated 9/29/99 8:52:54 AM Central Daylight Time, Tecknomonk@aol.com writes: << btw, where did you hear this rumor??? -tina >> I hurd it from a friend who said one of their friends was going to see him in October. ~Felicia P.S. I'm shure it was a misunderstanding tho. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: grete.gundhus@nikuosl.ninaniku.no Subject: (mobility) Sender: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: 29 Sep 1999 19:25:28 +0100 * Name: Karine Gundhus * Age: 18 * What is in your Moby collection: Play and "Feeling so real" (impressive= huh) * Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are: I don't remember how I first heard of him, but my friends and I really loved his music around the time when FSR came out, and I've been interested on and off since then. I bought Play this summer and I think it's excellent. I've just been at his concert and it was one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced:) * Other artists you like: Placebo, Fatboy Slim, Beatles, Nick Drake + m.m. * Any other interesting information you wish to share: not really;) "These people are so mega conglomerate;=20 one small withdrawal, and Switzerland=20 goes third world!" (Absolutely Fabulous: Edina on her daughter's fianc=E9e's family) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Sender: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: 29 Sep 1999 19:32:25 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) >=20 > "These people are so mega conglomerate;=20 > one small withdrawal, and Switzerland=20 > goes third world!" > (Absolutely Fabulous: Edina on her > daughter's fianc=E9e's family) >=20 God, that was classic! Welcome to the list by the way. I love Ab Fab. TMB 'Planet Earth - insane asylum of the universe.' ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SrGldnHair@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello!! Date: 29 Sep 1999 14:43:32 EDT hi mette, welcome! Amy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Torgrim Grimstad Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello!! Date: 29 Sep 1999 21:23:56 +0100 Hei Mette! Flere fra Norge her! Bra. T. At 16:01 29.09.99 +0200, you wrote: >Hello, this is my introduction: > >* Name: Mette (female, nowegian girl) >* Age: 17 years old >* What is in your Moby collection: Everything is wrong, Play. >* Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are: I first heard >Moby at Reading 96. He was awsome!! Later i met him at the Virgin Megastore >in London and talked to him. I have seen him twice after that, and i saw him >last nigth. He was awsome as usual. I went backstage and talked to him. He >is so nice and down to earth. He gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and >signed my playlist. I can't wait to see him again. >* Other artists you like: I like so many different artists, i love alot of >different things. >-I think that's it.... :) > >I can't wait to get to know the people here. > >Mette > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mette Rogstad" Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello!! Date: 29 Sep 1999 21:39:23 +0200 Thank you Amy!! Mette >hi mette, welcome! >Amy > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mette Rogstad" Subject: Re: (mobility) Hello!! Date: 29 Sep 1999 21:39:06 +0200 Heisann, var du p konserten i gr da? Mette >Hei Mette! >Flere fra Norge her! > >Bra. > >T. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Thanks 2 Date: 29 Sep 1999 12:45:07 -0700 Roy Batty wrote: > >Hey, does anyone have any news regarding Thanks 2? > What is Thanks 2? I have not an idea! :-) --kimby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (mobility) mobys thoughts on MP3 Date: 29 Sep 1999 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT) str8 from the new SPIN: "I find it daunting just walking into a record store and looking at tons of racks. Now multiply that by a million-that's the amount of music available on MP3. To some extent, I appreciate the role of record companies because they sift through thousands and thousands of demos and pick the one or two things they think are wonderful. But one thing I find almost criminal is record companies wanting to charge as much for downloads as a CD in a record store. That's the equivalent of Marie Antionette saying 'Let them eat cake.'" -Moby, page 160 SPIN November (with TORI on the cover! thank god an actual real artist!) And, because I can: "People from the record industry talk about putting some sort of code on MP#s that wouldn't let people duplicate them, and that seems as appropriate as running into the middle of a rave and telling people to turn the music down. The free exchange is part of the culture"-John Flansburgh, TMBG (ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Wow, John F talking about raves! I absolutely agree with what he's saying. TMBG just released a cd only available on MP3s on emusic.com btw. oh yeah, theres a neat photo of Moby here (but not John) and Mobys like un front of a blue room, like... maybe its a rave r sumthin. whuteva also they review the new NIN 9/10 jeez whut a surprise there! and the new Stereolab 6/10 has any1ne actually heard any of the new S-Lab? its been out a week and i havent heard one blip of it! im mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! k bye! ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Parkes Subject: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 13:22:32 +1200 I love it how some of you guys out there use these large words that the slightly slower uneducated people (like Myself) don't understand or just can't be bothered to read. Laymens terms if you will? When I talk about Moby, it always comes from the heart, and mostly there are NO words that can describe the way I feel. None of us no what Moby is thinking, in today's society isn't it important to get your own beliefs and values in order before you take into consideration what other people are thinking. It is good to understand the world but you have to find yourself first. As for the Moby songs on these commercials, haven't seen any in NZ, but I would think it is great news. Moby is never gonna get like the Spice Girls so stop ya whining. The music of his on ads is great exposure and it will have a positive affect. But, Was it WDMHFSB on Buffy or something, and Porcelain on Baileys, Well, these two songs are very emotional and when people hear them it will belittle them a bit, in fact probably a lot. People will now think of Baileys when they hear that song, I'm glad I heard the Song before that ad. As for drinking, I'm Sorry but I must Say, Drinking is Good Once a week is plenty for me, but I love getting Fucked Up. The friends, company of the opposite sex, the rugby (or Football), the music, the drinking Games, and then the eventual Spew, I luv it all. The last legal Drug. Bless It before It gets taken away. Issues and Flames The issues range from potent to trivial, but everyone of them is important to each other, so go with the flow, be happy, and remember to have a drink in the Weekend. Put on ya Beer Goggles and Shag Someone. Just try not to make a noise when you do a runner the next morning. Confrontation is allll Bad. Spot Joe, Use Portection Aye! Joseph Parkes parjo727@student.otago.ac.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: Re: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 29 Sep 1999 20:25:04 -0700 (PDT) --- Joseph Parkes wrote: > I love it how some of you guys out there use > these large words that the slightly slower > uneducated people (like Myself) don't > understand or just can't be bothered to read. > > Laymens terms if you will? Some issues require the use of "large words" to describe the meaning of what is going on. It's not an effort to exclude some of you (and I'm not implying anyone said that). It's merely that you can't debate epistemological ideas without using the word epistemology. > When I talk about Moby, it always comes from > the heart, and mostly there are NO words that > can describe the way I feel. When I talk about anything, it comes from the heart (or my ass at times). However, to try and describe those feeling, I must rely on the larger and more complex words to do so. A simple "This rules!" sometimes just doesn't cut it. > It is good to understand the world but you > have to find yourself first. Aye! I agree 100%! > The last legal Drug. Bless It before It gets > taken away. Can we say Oktoberfest in La Crosse! :) ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jedi/Sector One Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V2 #141 Date: 30 Sep 1999 10:27:17 +0200 "Eric M. Goldberg" wrote : > Well Honestly, we've all had the same problem. > Greg is really busy. > It's in a very slow process but I think it's moving. Well... The mailing-list he has set up has never been very active, we've never seen any message of Greg. > Though I just finished my 3rd remix, and I havent received a reply from > him if he's downloaded it yet. Greg? You out there? Same for me, I don't know if he got the files. > Who knows by the time this thing gets finished, I'll have a whole albums > worth of remixes!!! :) Maybe we can already think about Thanks 3 aha ! -- Frank DENIS aka Jedi/Sector One aka DJ Chrysalis -> Software : http://www.jedi.claranet.fr <- -> Music : http://www.mp3.com/chrysalis <- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Davies, Andrew" Subject: (mobility) Moby in Madison Date: 30 Sep 1999 08:54:36 -0500 I just heard on the radio yesterday, that Moby will be playing at the Barrymore Theater here in Madison, WI October 22!!! I get to see him again this year!!! YES! Anyone else close enough to plan on coming up for it? Chicago crew? Andy gingerbread man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 10:04:45 -0400 Epistomology: Webster says epistomics is the scientific study of knowledge, esp. by construction of formal models of perdeption, etc., by which knowledge is attained; coined at Edinburgh University in 1969 ant epistemology. Whew! I'll tell you honestly, I don't want to have to grab my thick heavy dictionary every time you use a big word to express yourself. i agree "this rules" doesn't quite cut it for a lot of things, but it's something most people can understand, and, I believe there are other familiar phrases out there that could express "this rules" just as well. I like increasing my vocabulary as much as the next guy, but if I have to look up 5 words in 3 paragraphs (this is hypothetical) I'm not really hearing what you say. If you need to use big words to express yourself, and some, most, all, whoever on the list do not understand what you're saying, you're not really expressing anything at all. There's no communication, no exchange of ideas if the person on the other end doesn't understand what you're saying. For these purposes, basic vocab does the trick. This is absolutely not a flame towards you. Just my opinion. You could talk anyway you like. I just think it would be sad if I couldn't understand what you are trying to express. How did you pick up such a vocab anyway? Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: DJ Pagan [SMTP:djpagan@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 11:25 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Issues and Flames > > --- Joseph Parkes > wrote: > > I love it how some of you guys out there use > > these large words that the slightly slower > > uneducated people (like Myself) don't > > understand or just can't be bothered to read. > > > > Laymens terms if you will? > > Some issues require the use of "large words" to > describe the meaning of what is going on. It's > not an effort to exclude some of you (and I'm not > implying anyone said that). It's merely that you > can't debate epistemological ideas without using > the word epistemology. > > > When I talk about Moby, it always comes from > > the heart, and mostly there are NO words that > > can describe the way I feel. > > When I talk about anything, it comes from the > heart (or my ass at times). However, to try and > describe those feeling, I must rely on the larger > and more complex words to do so. A simple "This > rules!" sometimes just doesn't cut it. > > > It is good to understand the world but you > > have to find yourself first. > > Aye! I agree 100%! > > > The last legal Drug. Bless It before It gets > > taken away. > > Can we say Oktoberfest in La Crosse! :) > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Pagan Subject: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 10:41:35 -0700 (PDT) --- Danielle Logue wrote: > Whew! I'll tell you honestly, I don't want to > have to grab my thick heavy dictionary every > time you use a big word to express yourself. This is similar to myself trying to understand some slang that people use. The only difference is, I have to look stupid and ask someone what it means while Webster can help you out! :) > If you need to use big words to express > yourself, and some, most, all, whoever on > the list do not understand what you're saying, > you're not really expressing anything at all. > There's no communication, no exchange of ideas > if the person on the other end doesn't > understand what you're saying. For these > purposes, basic vocab does the trick. I agree. However, the times I use "big words" to state something, when I really have to, it's only once in a while. If you notice in this e-mail, I will not use any big words, but I am still conveying complex ideas. However, when you are looking for just the right word... look to the big words. > This is absolutely not a flame towards you. > Just my opinion. You could talk anyway you > like. I just think it would be sad if I > couldn't understand what you are trying to > express. Clarification can always be asked for. You are not limited to getting it the first time, I am happy to explain anything I can again in different terms. > How did you pick up such a vocab anyway? I've read about 500 books so far in life, being a philosophy minor helps, and, ironically enough, looking up words that people use in books and e-mails and what not that I do not understand. ===== DJ Pagan "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark closet and listen to Dead Cities?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 19:03:02 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) It's weird, I've read a fair few books - maybe not 500 (at least I don't think so, and then a lot of it was rubbish), but I have such a short-term memory, that I have to keep looking up the same thing. It must be down to too much of the demon weed during uni. undergrad. days. Does anyone have any good tips for preventing memory loss? TMB 'I just want to be normal.....when it suits me.' > > > How did you pick up such a vocab anyway? > > I've read about 500 books so far in life, being a > philosophy minor helps, and, ironically enough, > looking up words that people use in books and > e-mails and what not that I do not understand. > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 15:01:43 -0400 > -----Original Message----- > From: DJ Pagan [SMTP:djpagan@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:42 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames > > --- Danielle Logue wrote: > > Whew! I'll tell you honestly, I don't want to > > have to grab my thick heavy dictionary every > > time you use a big word to express yourself. > > This is similar to myself trying to understand > some slang that people use. The only difference > is, I have to look stupid and ask someone what it > means while Webster can help you out! :) > > > If you need to use big words to express > > yourself, and some, most, all, whoever on > > the list do not understand what you're saying, > > you're not really expressing anything at all. > > There's no communication, no exchange of ideas > > if the person on the other end doesn't > > understand what you're saying. For these > > purposes, basic vocab does the trick. > > I agree. However, the times I use "big words" to > state something, when I really have to, it's only > once in a while. If you notice in this e-mail, I > will not use any big words, but I am still > conveying complex ideas. However, when you are > looking for just the right word... look to the > big words. > > > This is absolutely not a flame towards you. > > Just my opinion. You could talk anyway you > > like. I just think it would be sad if I > > couldn't understand what you are trying to > > express. > > Clarification can always be asked for. You are > not limited to getting it the first time, I am > happy to explain anything I can again in > different terms. > > > How did you pick up such a vocab anyway? > > I've read about 500 books so far in life, being a > philosophy minor helps, and, ironically enough, > looking up words that people use in books and > e-mails and what not that I do not understand. > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 15:03:21 -0400 Wow! 500 books seems pretty extreme, but I agree, it definately will boost your vocabulary. Does anyone know if Moby reads a lot? Does he have any fav books/authors? Genre? Danielle > -----Original Message----- > From: DJ Pagan [SMTP:djpagan@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:42 PM > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames > > --- Danielle Logue wrote: > > Whew! I'll tell you honestly, I don't want to > > have to grab my thick heavy dictionary every > > time you use a big word to express yourself. > > This is similar to myself trying to understand > some slang that people use. The only difference > is, I have to look stupid and ask someone what it > means while Webster can help you out! :) > > > If you need to use big words to express > > yourself, and some, most, all, whoever on > > the list do not understand what you're saying, > > you're not really expressing anything at all. > > There's no communication, no exchange of ideas > > if the person on the other end doesn't > > understand what you're saying. For these > > purposes, basic vocab does the trick. > > I agree. However, the times I use "big words" to > state something, when I really have to, it's only > once in a while. If you notice in this e-mail, I > will not use any big words, but I am still > conveying complex ideas. However, when you are > looking for just the right word... look to the > big words. > > > This is absolutely not a flame towards you. > > Just my opinion. You could talk anyway you > > like. I just think it would be sad if I > > couldn't understand what you are trying to > > express. > > Clarification can always be asked for. You are > not limited to getting it the first time, I am > happy to explain anything I can again in > different terms. > > > How did you pick up such a vocab anyway? > > I've read about 500 books so far in life, being a > philosophy minor helps, and, ironically enough, > looking up words that people use in books and > e-mails and what not that I do not understand. > > ===== > DJ Pagan > "Is it wrong that I sit in a dark > closet and listen to Dead Cities?" > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ameesh Makadia" Subject: (mobility) Old Moby Logo for Background Date: 30 Sep 1999 15:25:11 -0400 I was wondering if anyone has a cool picture of the Old Moby Logo http://www.moby.org/gfx/mobylogo.jpg ). This picture on moby.org isn't that great and it would be really neat to use as a background. If there's anyone out there with some artistic ability that could make a bigger & better image of it (maybe some different colors, effects, whatever), it would be much appreciated Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) Old Moby Logo for Background & Paul S. Date: 30 Sep 1999 13:23:35 PDT First of all, Phizzo Simpson, Esq., your promised item will be en route as of tomorrow. >From: "Ameesh Makadia" >I was wondering if anyone has a cool picture of the Old Moby Logo Come check out the moby fans club at yahoo! Tom Wroble just did bunches of Moby logos that look absolutely tops, and there's a 3-D version of the block logo you linked to at moby.org. I have that one as the club picture, which you'll see right away when you follow the below link. It should be easy to get a yahoo profile and once that's done, just click on join the club in the upper right corner and then check out the picture section. There's 60 pictures up, a link to a great Moby live gallery, and some other assorted stuff. Everybody's invited! http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/mobyfans -Steve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beacwork@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: (mobility) memory loss Date: 30 Sep 1999 16:57:32 EDT Well, you can always smoke more "demon weed." Then you'll forget that you don't remember so much. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kimbalina Subject: Re: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 14:12:18 -0700 I hate to get in on this but this is a subject very close to my heart. > >Whew! I'll tell you honestly, I don't want to have to grab my thick > >heavy dictionary every time you use a big word to express yourself. Then don't. If it's important to know what someone is saying, have a peice of paper handy, write down the big word and look it up later. You could save the email and re-read it once you have looked up or asked someone about the words you wrote down. If this is too much, then don't worry about the words and read the email as if those words weren't there. Also, try to use context clues. I think these are good tips not only for reading emails but they're helpful when you're reading in college. > > > >I like increasing my vocabulary as much as the next guy, but if I have > >to look up 5 words in 3 paragraphs (this is hypothetical) I'm not really > >hearing what you say. But you don't have to look up those words. Skip them over. A teacher once told me that readers are set apart by the words they know and the words they skip. You don't have to know all the words on the page but if you see a word you don't know and you attempt it and then go on, you're not hangin on one word and you're getting more out of the writing. > >If you need to use big words to express yourself, > >and some, most, all, whoever on the list do not understand what you're > >saying, you're not really expressing anything at all. It's not like when I do use big words to articulate (express) myself I sit around and think about how I'm gonna stump ppl. :-) Some words come easily. Some words are assumed to be common knowledge. And when I write, those words just come out. Some words enrich what you're saying and can't be played down because they rob the writing of it fire! :-) Some sentences just wouldn't be the same. > >There's no > >communication, no exchange of ideas if the person on the other end > >doesn't understand what you're saying. For these purposes, basic vocab > >does the trick. > But should one talk down to the person, assuming they have no idea? I would feel awful if they thought they needed to talk down to me so that I'd understand. There have been times when I've talked w/ very well read ppl who use they're vocab to the fullest. I didn't always understand but I never let on. I paid attention and used the context to figure the words out. I have a richer vocab because of it I think. Having a rich vocab is important if you go to school and have to write papers. > > >This is absolutely not a flame towards you. Just my opinion. You could > >talk anyway you like. > I agree totally w/ what you said above! BTW: it's close to my heart because as a kid I was an outcast because of my big vocab and I had to hide it if I wanted to have friends. But it's ok because I write and having a good vocab has helped a lot. The writing is much more rich. I just can's say it enough! But I feel bitchy. I'll never write another long winded email! *sob* --kimby > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danielle Logue Subject: RE: (mobility) Issues and Flames Date: 30 Sep 1999 17:44:03 -0400 the following is pretty long if no one wants to read it.... Thanks for your imput Kimby, I really appreciate your suggestions, however I think you might have taken me too literally. Everything I wrote was meant to be sorta humorous and light. I didn't mean I was really going to grab a dictionary everytime. I actually graduated from college this spring, and you're absolutely right, context clues do help, and sometimes skipping over the word helps you to get through your reading and proves not to be vital to the content > But you don't have to look up those words. Skip them over. A teacher > once > told me that > readers are set apart by the words they know and the words they skip. > You > don't have to know all the words on the page but if you see a word you > don't > know and you attempt it and then go on, you're not hangin on one word > and > you're getting more out of the writing. > But then again, that one word you might be skipping over could be detrimental to the subject at hand. By skipping over that one word, you may be skipping the whole idea in that sentence or paragraph. > It's not like when I do use big words to articulate (express) myself > I sit > around and think about how I'm gonna stump ppl. :-) Some words come > easily. Some words are assumed to be common knowledge. And when I > write, > those words just come out. Some words enrich what you're saying and > can't > be played down because they rob the writing of it fire! :-) Some > sentences > just wouldn't be the same. > I didn't mean to imply (if that's the case) that big words were used to stump people, but sometimes the same idea can be expressed in simpler terms. Some words are more expressive than others, agreed, and without them, sentences wouldn't be the same. > But should one talk down to the person, assuming they have no idea? I > would > feel awful if they thought they needed to talk down to me so that I'd > understand. There have been times when I've talked w/ very well read > ppl > who use they're vocab to the fullest. I didn't always understand but > I > never let on. I paid attention and used the context to figure the > words > out. I have a richer vocab because of it I think. Having a rich > vocab is > important if you go to school and have to write papers. > Of course not! People should not talk down to others, and I don't think simpler vocabulary does that. it's not a matter of talking down to people, but using terminology that generally most people can understand. I have found through maybe two friends, that people may use big words they don't know the meaning of which doesn't benefit anyone. Rather than not letting on, you should call them on it. You'll either know the exact meaning of the word and have a better understanding, or you may catch those people have know idea of what they are talking about. Which by the way, I wasn't trying to do in my last email. I checked out the word, thought it was impressive that such a word was used, and then poked a little fun at it. > > I agree totally w/ what you said above! Right on! > BTW: it's close to my heart because as a kid I was an outcast because > of my > big vocab and I had to hide it if I wanted to have friends. But it's > ok > because I write and having a good vocab has helped a lot. The writing > is > much more rich. I just can's say it enough! But I feel bitchy. I'll > never > write another long winded email! *sob* > Never feel like a bitch for expressing yourself!!!! Women apologize too much...I'm sorry you were picked on because of others' insecurities. I hope you don't hide your vocab now! Again, the previous email was just poking fun. Thanks for the input though I appreciate it. Danielle > --kimby > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" Subject: (mobility) Fw: Barbie vs. Ken Date: 30 Sep 1999 19:42:18 -0700 > OK- so i know that u guys get sick of reading jokes, but i can't resist > sending this to you guys. i almost died laughing! > > *** > Barbie's letter to Santa > Dear Santa: > Listen, you fat little troll, I've been helping you out every year, > playing at being the perfect Christmas present, wearing skimpy bathing > suits in frigid weather, and drowning in fake tea from one too many tea > parties, and I hate to break it to ya, Santa, but IT'S DEFINITELY > PAYBACK TIME! There had better be some changes around here this > Christmas, or I'm gonna call for a nation-wide meltdown (and trust me, > you won't wanna be around to smell it). > So, here's my holiday wish list, Santa: > 1. A nice, comfy pair of sweat pants and a frumpy, oversized > sweatshirt. I'm sick of looking like a hooker. How much smaller are > these bathing suits gonna get? Do you have any idea what it feels like > to have nylon and velcro crawling up your butt? > 2. Real underwear that can be pulled on and off. Preferably white. > What bonehead at Mattel decided to cheap out and MOLD imitation > underwear to my skin? (It looks like cellulite); > 3. A REAL man...maybe GI Joe. Hell, I'd take Tickle-Me Elmo over that > wimped-out excuse for a boyfriend Ken. And what's with that earring > anyway? If I'm gonna have to suffer with him, at least > make him (and me) anatomically correct; > 4. Arms that actually bend so I can push the aforementioned Ken-wimp > away once he is anatomically correct; > 5. Breast reduction surgery. I don't care whose arm you have to twist, > just get it done; > 6. A sports bra. (To wear until I get the surgery.) > 7. A new career. Pet doctor and school teacher just don't cut it. How > about a systems analyst? Or better yet, an advertising account exec or > even a Buyer at Ford Motor Company for goodness sake! > 8. A new, more '90s persona. Maybe "PMS Barbie", complete with a > miniature container of chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream and a bag > of chips; "Animal Rights Barbie", with my very own paint gun, outfitted > with a fake fur coat and handcuffs; or "Stop Smoking Barbie", sporting > a removable Nicotrol patch and equipped with several packs of gum; > 9. No more McDonald's endorsements. The grease is wrecking my vinyl; > 10. Mattel stock options. It's been 37 years--I think I deserve it. > > Ok, Santa, that's it. Considering my valuable contribution to society, > I don't think these requests are out of line. If you disagree, then you > can find yourself a new bimbo doll for next Christmas. It's that > simple. > Yours truly, > Barbie > Dreamhouse > Malibu, CA > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ken's Letter to Santa > Dear Santa, > I understand that one of my colleagues has petitioned you for changes > in her contract, specifically asking for anatomical and career changes. > In addition, it is my understanding that disparaging remarks were made > about me, my ability to please, and some of my fashion choices. I > would like to take this opportunity to inform you of some of issues > concerning Ms. Barbie, and some of my own needs and desires. > 1. First of all, I, along with several other colleagues feel Barbie > DOES NOT deserve preferential treatment - the bitch has everything. I, > along with Joe, Jem, Raggedy Ann & Andy, DO NOT have a dreamhouse, > Corvette, evening gowns, and in some cases, the ability to change our > hair style. I personally have only 3 outfits, which I am forced to mix > and match at great length. The decision to accessorize my outfits with > an earring was my decision and reflects my lifestyle choice. > 2. I too would like a change in career. Have you ever considered > "Decorator Ken", "Beauty Salon Ken", or "Out of Work Actor Ken" ? In > addition, there are several other avenues which could be considered > such as: "S & M Ken", "Green Lantern Ken", "Circuit Ken" ,"Bear Ken", > "Master Ken" These would more accurately reflect my desires and perhaps > open up new markets. > 3. And as for Barbie needing bendable arms so she can "push me away," > I need bendable knees so I can kick the bitch to the curb. Bendable > knees would also be helpful for me in other situations - we've talked > about this issue before. > > In closing, I would like to point out that any further concessions to > the blonde bimbo from hell will result in action to be taken by myself > and others. > > Sincerely, > > Ken > > p.s. Barbie can forget about having Joe - he's mine. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Michael Bourke Subject: Re: (mobility) values... Date: 30 Sep 1999 19:19:22 -0500 Back to the big words and confusing subjects... >> Mathematics is [objective]. > >Only because we subjectively agree upon the >principles. If we tweak even the most basic >agreed upon (and therefore subjective) principles >in mathematics, they change dramatically. such as? I have to call you on this one, you are absolutely wrong. Proofs and Theorums are universal--the only thing that is subjective is the basis of number systems(ie binary, base ten, hexedecimal)--and amazingly, and beautifully, if you translate a number, say a prime into another system, its still... PRIME!!! isn't that cool? Nature speaks the language of mathematics, all principles are the same, whether here on our little planet or millions of light years away on alpha centari. Not only that but mathematics is the only form of knowledge that can guarantee a 100% answer; and failing this, it can tell us within what kind of range we are correct, 95%; 60%; whatever. >> Belief or disbeief is not a standard for >> objectivity/subjectivity. Belief is merely >> a component of knowledge (epistemology) >> check Bertrand Russell for that one... > >Acceptance is a standard for >objectivity/subjectivity, however. I could hold >the secret of life, brought about in an objective >manner to myself, but if no one believes (and >they haven't yet! ;) ), it's not "truth", nor >does anyone accept it from an "objective" >viewpoint. "Acceptance" is nothing more than a synonym for belief; ie whether we choose to accept something is equal to whether we choose to believe it or not... Just because someone doesn't accept it doesn't mean it's not objective or true. As a simple example look at pre-Columbus history; many didn't accept/believe the world was round, that doesn't mean that it was flat does it? You could very well have the secret of life as you claim, brought about in an objective manner; the disbelief of others doesn't invalidate it(it's objectivity or Truth). BTW: *I* have the secret of life, not you. >Wouldn't any complex idea, by it's very nature, >involve all sorts of interpretation? not necessarily; with refinement and clarification, a q/a session, all doubts could be silenced; Room for interpretation comes not by the complexity of the idea, but by the misunderstandings of others or the lack of clarity on the author's part. >> For proof one need look no further than this >> list--the original post showed how people >> have misconceptions regarding moby's own >> ideologies. Where did these misconceptions >> come from? conflicting interpretations of >> his music--a primarily instrumental form (with >> a few exceptions of course). >That's odd, I didn't realize that were these >conflicting misconceptions came from. To me, >they would have come from the words in the >inlays. I don't know how anyone can draw from >music alone they could draw these ideas. Exactly my point >::walks to net and extends hand:: oh, too bad, a slap shot down, The ref calls the game! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby at roxy Date: 30 Sep 1999 22:15:33 EDT I am thinking about going to the Roxy show, but haven't gotten around to getting the tix yet...anyone know if there are any left? I'd like to meet up with some people from the list, that would be pretty chill. Oct. 28th, huh? My birthday's the 29th! Ok nobody cares...So uh...right, talk to u guys later or something... ~Vedaben~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CaMuS888@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby at Roxy Date: 30 Sep 1999 22:17:55 EDT In a message dated 9/27/99 5:07:57 PM EST, orb2@erols.com writes: << NP - Vapourspace - Gravatational Arch of 10 >> HEY!!! Why do i know that.....is that a song or something? My friend from England makes me tapes of all their new music and I think theres a song called Gravitational Arch of 10.....Nice. -Ved- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hytinic@aol.com Subject: (mobility) No Moby on Sessions in October... Date: 30 Sep 1999 23:19:30 EDT Moby fans... According to the Sessions at West 54th website, Moby will NOT be on the show in October. =( Hopefully November? Anyone have the inside track? Oh, I've got a picture of me and Moby from the St. Louis show. It's a wee bit blurry, but it's obviously Moby, and it's obviously me... (like anyone on here but Rob knows what I look like... =) Perhaps Adobe can clear it up for me... If there's a Moby page that wants it, let me know... Daniel, perhaps? Take care... - Chip n.p. Air - Sexy Boy (Cassius Radio mix)