From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: rememba me? Date: 01 Mar 1997 03:15:33 -0500 You embody all that is wrong with the world Ken P.s your a prick and the name ryu is a lot more interesting than john michael David >personally, animal rights sucks. i cant understand how anyone who >ever liked moby can tolerate this shit. animal rights is garbage. i wish >moby would stop wining and start making good techno. i had a good >conversation with him tonite on sonicnet. every other asshole >(probably everone on this mailing list) was sucking his dick hard. it >seemed like i was the only one who new anything about techno. most people >posed very "important" questions such as: "Moby, can i call you >tonite?"--what abunch of pussies. as far as i am concerned, moby is dead. >moby is nothing without techno. he is a little bald bastard with a >soulpatch on mtv. >i wanna tell you something, ryu. first, get a real fucking name. >we're not playing street fighter, buddy. i dont know where your stupid >store is, but if that many people like animal rights than you must be >living in fagtowne. if you want to listen to punk, listen to real punk, >not garbage. > >call me echo. > > > > 'm off like a prom dress HEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: RE: (mobility) my local store Date: 01 Mar 1997 03:18:08 -0500 >> >i've been a moby fan for years... ever since i first got "early >underground"... i've loved his music... i guess it's what i've gotten >so used to him making... it was a disappointing surprise to hear AR >and find out from spin magazine he wasn't doing techno anymore... and >as brutal as echo was with his comments about moby, i kinda had to >agree... he should stick with what he does best... techno... > > >We should remember moby was playing hard core and punk long before >he ever touched a synth > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >stuck in a floaty whirlpool pondering the meaning >of life and checking if a bubble has a soul... > > -altern 8 > > 'm off like a prom dress HEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john.turpin" Subject: (mobility) it's over Date: 01 Mar 1997 02:27:42 -0600 Having just seen the "Revolver" video... or whatever it's being called now, here are my comments: Run, Forrest, run! Who is that redhead? >=] Yeah, he does look like a member of the Presidents...it reminds me of the Weird Al video where he parodies Forrest Gump and the Presidents of the USA. -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | ra.msstate.edu> O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kcr4829@is.nyu.edu (Ken Rowe) Subject: Re: (mobility) my local s Date: 01 Mar 1997 03:24:08 -0500 > -=> Quoting Int:mobility@xmission.com to Fishlips <=- > > In> personally, i was not really impressed with AR... i was really > In> disappointed... we can't really force him at gunpoint to turn back to > In> techno... but i'd like a chance at that ;) > > In> lee > > Well..considering Moby did give his "supposed" address in NY...you could > go up to him..put a gun to his head...and force him to do "techno"...But > hopefully you see it from my side...I'd rather see him happy and making > rock/punk music...than having to feed the masses what they want...Besides... > he hasn't let the Voodoo Child in him die..even though that's more ambient.. > it's still "techno" :) >Out of curiosity what address did he give. I live in NYC. Ken > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Ryan Taylor Email Addy's: Fishlips@ahbqs.com > Rtaylor@varney.idbsu.edu > >Website: www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm > >"People suing ski areas should be shot" --Scot Schmidt >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] > > > > 'm off like a prom dress HEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ravi Baskaran Subject: (mobility) Finally, a positive AR review Date: 01 Mar 1997 11:25:58 -0500 (EST) This is from the February 14 issue of Jam magazine, a local, Orlando, Florida magazine. MOBY Animal Rights Elektra Records * * * * 1/2 I'm going to take a risk of sounding ignorant to make a point here. Up until now, I have always lumped Moby under the "Techno" umbrella. Mostly due to my own preconceived ideas about artists who mainpulate machines to get the sounds that they want onto wax. I never really paid that much attention to the aural pictures that make up the body of his work. As the saying goes, little did I know that I was so missing so much. Simply put, my mind has been changed, my mind has been opened a little more, and my mind has been blown away. Part of the reason is the fact that Moby has traded in all of his synths and processors and opted for a guitar. In the face of the death of guitar rock, Moby stands up in defense of punk-influenced riffing and breathes new life in its use in modern, dance-oriented music. Moby is gritty, dirty, angry, and all of the other qualities that make hard rock so satisfying, but he's still original. There is a quote on the inside of the liner notes that gives us all a pretty good insight into how to get the most out of this record. "Please listen to Animal Rights in its entirety at least once." It fits so well because in a lot of ways this record is a journey. A journey with several twists and turns; a journey that is angry, sensitive, thought provoking, and punk all in the same breath. Somehow, the ambient glow of "Dead Sun" moving into the full-on assault of "Someone To Love" just seems to...fit. It's a paradox that rolls throughout the entire masterpiece. At well over 70 minutes odds are you won't miss the time as it slides by. My suggestion is to lock yourself in a room and let your mind wander through the first great record of the year. You just might realize as I did that truly inspiring music and art always have less boundaries than we think. -Adrian Gregory Glover Guess he liked it :-) Ravi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Finally, a positive AR review Date: 01 Mar 1997 08:55:28 -0800 Wow.. not only did that guy like it.. he is theonly record critic I have read that can actually write.. man that was same damn good writing... are all the reviews in the mag like that?> if so i want a subscription -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) Finally, a positive AR review Date: 01 Mar 1997 19:32:13 +0200 (EET) At 11.25 1997-03-01 -0500, you wrote: >This is from the February 14 issue of Jam magazine, a local, Orlando, >Florida magazine. > >MOBY >Animal Rights >Elektra Records >* * * * 1/2 > >I'm going to take a risk of sounding ignorant to make a point here. Up= until >now, I have always lumped Moby under the "Techno" umbrella. Mostly due to= my >own preconceived ideas about artists who mainpulate machines to get the >sounds that they want onto wax. I never really paid that much attention to >the aural pictures that make up the body of his work. As the saying goes, >little did I know that I was so missing so much. Simply put, my mind has >been changed, my mind has been opened a little more, and my mind has been >blown away. > >Part of the reason is the fact that Moby has traded in all of his synths= and >processors and opted for a guitar. In the face of the death of guitar rock, >Moby stands up in defense of punk-influenced riffing and breathes new life >in its use in modern, dance-oriented music. Moby is gritty, dirty, angry, >and all of the other qualities that make hard rock so satisfying, but he's >still original. > >There is a quote on the inside of the liner notes that gives us all a= pretty >good insight into how to get the most out of this record. "Please listen to >Animal Rights in its entirety at least once." It fits so well because in a >lot of ways this record is a journey. A journey with several twists and >turns; a journey that is angry, sensitive, thought provoking, and punk all >in the same breath. Somehow, the ambient glow of "Dead Sun" moving into the >full-on assault of "Someone To Love" just seems to...fit. It's a paradox >that rolls throughout the entire masterpiece. At well over 70 minutes odds >are you won't miss the time as it slides by. My suggestion is to lock >yourself in a room and let your mind wander through the first great record >of the year. You just might realize as I did that truly inspiring music and >art always have less boundaries than we think. > >-Adrian Gregory Glover > >Guess he liked it :-) > >Ravi > > i just read last spin magazine and i noticed AR review of it.. it get just 4 of ten. and they dind't like it. i am wondering why.. anyway at Finland one of our pop magazines suosikki had review of it about =BD year ago (u.k version) and they liked it. They said that Moby is good for make new harder stuff, too.. i almost forgot that new spin had little interview from Moby.. the article name was: tech no.. c00l. but they had cool pics from Moby in it so i will scan them to my page soon.. +=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+ | Samu | =20 | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Moby's addy Date: 01 Mar 1997 18:33:24 -0500 -=> Quoting Int:mobility@xmission.com to Fishlips <=- >Out of curiosity what address did he give. I live in NYC. Ken Check the log from the recent Moby chat..it's in there somewhere =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor Email Addy's: Fishlips@ahbqs.com Rtaylor@varney.idbsu.edu Website: www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm "People suing ski areas should be shot" --Scot Schmidt =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALI67@aol.com Subject: (mobility) CNOTES Date: 01 Mar 1997 22:27:31 -0500 (EST) anybody get their C-Notes CDs yet? just wondering James DALI67 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) CNOTES Date: 01 Mar 1997 19:51:19 -0800 i havent gotten mine and i pretty much feel taken advantage of and ripped off -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" Subject: Re: (mobility) CNOTES Date: 02 Mar 1997 16:41:57 -0800 I have to agree.. that offer motivated me enough to get off my ass, re-work most of my homepage, and put some actual *effort* into a real moby page :) damn, I mean, recording 6 tracks, then putting them online as mpeg 3 and realaudio? enough of my bitching peace! -- Scott Bruce ... "With the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a convertible" ---------- > From: eric weiss > To: mobility@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) CNOTES > Date: Saturday, March 01, 1997 7:51 PM > > i havent gotten mine and i pretty much feel taken advantage of and > ripped off > > -- > Eric Weiss > Epicentre Productions > > eric_w@geocities.com > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ > http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip > > "If you were god what would upset you more, > bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of > healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) CNOTES Date: 02 Mar 1997 20:43:33 -0700 eric weiss wrote: > > i havent gotten mine and i pretty much feel taken advantage of and > ripped off I'll write to the guy that I had been talking to about a month ago to see how things are going. Hopefully he will respond quickly. Also, I didn't plan on hearing from CNotes until this upcoming week seeing that the promotion was suppose to official end on Feb 28, only three days ago. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@andorra-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: (mobility) an apology... Date: 03 Mar 1997 01:12:22 +0000 i would like to apologize to damian for all the replies i keep doing accidentally with my other (non-mobility-registered) email addresses... he's gotten a lot of messages under other addies... i would register them all, but i don't wanna get all the same messages for 4 different addies... sorry! lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= stuck in a floaty whirlpool pondering the meaning of life and checking if a bubble has a soul... -altern 8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stoic Subject: (mobility) 1979 mixes Date: 03 Mar 1997 01:23:42 -0500 (EST) i recently got moby's 1979 remix, and i must say that it is outstanding! i was not a fan of the original song too much, but moby turned it into something totally different...and better. this is without a doubt my favorite remix of moby's for another artist. it just screams "moby" because of it's electronic ambience, guitar noise, and emotion. if you haven't heard this yet, i can't recomend it enuff. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Our face is not a jackel that devours all it sees -Baby moving closer to the future Fox transforming our disease" 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (mobility) RE: Date: 03 Mar 1997 00:13:49 -0800 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > if i remember correctly, moby said that the lopez singles were just moby > singles released under a different name. i take that answer to mean that moby > does not release songs that are done without feeling. i think moby is > incapable of making music that has no feeling. just my take on it... I agree with you. I love the Lopez singles (though Why Can't it Stop is much better than Emptiness IMO) and I think they have feeling. The ONLY Moby song I can think of that doesn't 'seem' to have feeling is Sim 1 by Voodoo Child. I don't know why, I just don't like that song.. Shaun -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) true expression.. Date: 03 Mar 1997 05:18:10 -0800 > I think if Moby goes back to making techno instead of punk/thrash > metal, then he is truly selling-out. He's just changing because it's > fashionable. How do you know? Maybe he WANTS to make techno... Is it that if anyone makes techno now they are selling out? Why would moby be selling out? Whats the difference between him making another techno album and David Bowie making a techno album (and dont even start on David Bowie). I think if Moby were to make a techno album we would (almost) all devour it with our ears. -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) TWIRIO Date: 03 Mar 1997 05:22:05 -0800 Im very confused. Why is wanting to be popular selling out? When I listened to grunge/punk/underground/what ever you want to call it rock n' roll it was selling out to make your hardcore music slower and softer so that you could get signed to a record company or to make your music more radio friendly. Moby totally switched genres something (and the reviews prove this) that isnt being accepted wholeheartedly. -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Out of Sync? Date: 03 Mar 1997 09:45:03 -0700 Hello all, I have just received several emails that were dated for Wed, 26 Feb. Example: (mobility) rock-oriented moby Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:20:24 -0600 (CST) From: danperry@execpc.com Now this worries me. I assume everybody else is having this same problem. If so, please email me so I can look into it. Otherwise, I'll assume that it's my email program and ignore it. Sorry for the off topic post. Grrr, I hate doing that. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" Subject: (mobility) Re: Dance Chem's Dance Date: 03 Mar 1997 17:33:04 +0000 >Final question, How would you classify the Chem, Prodigy, Orbital? They are usually in the Techno/Ambient sections here in Toronto, although you are right that sometimes you find it in the R&B sections of the bigger, more commercial music stores. BTW, where do you do your music shopping? I actually can find most of the tehcno stuff I'm looking for in Toronto, except some of the rarest imports(like Paul Van Dyk's "Seven Ways", which I have been looking forever for). The only thing is that the imports are pretty expensivc, like Orblivion, which I saw at a few places for $29.99. But all in all, the techno scene is pretty decent - well....at least on Queen St. if nowhere else, and we don't get too many concerts up here either. Ben UWO PS -Hypercadet - I picked up Daft Punk's Homework for about $22. But I don't know if its the entire thing. What's the diff? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) 1979 mixes Date: 03 Mar 1997 19:43:11 -0500 (EST) yeah... i agree with you...it probably is one of the best, because it really doesn't sound like the original.... and really, in one of the trancripts, Moby said himself that the reason he did that so differently is because he hated the original version of the song. i do like that very much..if you have the lp version of it, speed it up and see what it sounds like..real nice. love and eat lots of tangerines... eliiiiiieeeeeee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spacecat@spideyweb.net (Rick Ackerson) Subject: Re: (mobility) true expression.. Date: 03 Mar 1997 08:25:40 PST Greg Bennett wrote: >I think that echo's comments are purely correct.. >That chat was a disgraceful exhibition of conversation. The people >are >there thoroughly "worship" Moby in a strange, confused way. >Nobody really >had anything relevant to say to him. If someone has something >negative to >say then you must let them express their feelings. The internet is >about >expression, I think Moby should realize that not everybody glorifies >him >the way that some of you do. Is there something wrong with not having anything negative to say to Moby? I don't think there's anything wrong with criticizing him either. >Secondly, this list is ABOUT Moby. Even if it's negative, anything >can be >expressed. Even if a response is negative, respect is always due. I agree. >Thirdly, I thought Moby would take a negative comment better. He >should >have asked echo was he disliked animal rights, instead of asking >"why are >you so mean?". After all, it was a form of constructism criticism. I think the reason echo got kicked off the list was because of comments like, "You must be from fagtowne." >Moby >doesn't have any problem with preaching his views on subjects >(album cover >essays, urb magazine,etc.) Why can't he accept others views? I >think >that's the trouble with him...You have to listen to what he has to say >but >he doesn't want to hear others' opinions.. I thought he responded to the critisism as well as he could. It seemed like almost every time echo said something, Moby responded with a good answer. He probably would have done even better if the chat hadn't been going so fast. >I think if Moby goes back to making techno instead of punk/thrash >metal, then he is truly selling-out. He's just changing because it's >fashionable. He made AR because he thought people would like it >because >it's more "alternative" but it would have popular two years ago. He's >just >late jumping on the bandwagon... You may be right, but Moby is so unpredictable that it could just be a coincidence. Aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@iceland-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: (mobility) this has nothing to do with moby but... Date: 04 Mar 1997 12:01:21 +0000 a magazine called VOX had a pretty big article about orbital in it... and it said something about them being the anti-christ of techno (them gathering this because of an apparently new remix of "satan")... i would hardly call orbital the anti-christ of anything... unless i'm terribly missing out on some info... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= stuck in a floaty whirlpool pondering the meaning of life and checking if a bubble has a soul... -altern 8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) this has nothing to do with moby but... Date: 04 Mar 1997 11:10:41 -0700 technogod@iceland-c.it.earthlink.net wrote: > > a magazine called VOX had a pretty big article about orbital in it... > and it said something about them being the anti-christ of techno > (them gathering this because of an apparently new remix of > "satan")... i would hardly call orbital the anti-christ of > anything... unless i'm terribly missing out on some info... Oh good, now Moby isn't alone. (hehehe) p.s. i would hardly think Orbital are the anti-christ of techno either. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Born Slippy Subject: (mobility) PRODIGY Date: 04 Mar 1997 15:25:48 -0700 i know this isn't moby related, but iwas at the record shop today and saw the single for the PRODIGY's "fire", i believe it was. anyway, it had 5 tracks i think, 2 versions of fire, two versions of jericho, and an unreleased song. it came in a black digipack and on the case, it said "strangely limited edition". i was just wondering if anybody could tell me any more about this, like how limited is it, is it any good, is it worth buying, etc.? _______ ________ _______ ____ /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Born Slippy Subject: (mobility) Prodigy Date: 04 Mar 1997 15:29:35 -0700 i know this isn't moby related, but iwas at the record shop today and saw the single for the PRODIGY's "fire", i believe it was. anyway, it had 5 tracks i think, 2 versions of fire, two versions of jericho, and an unreleased song. it came in a black digipack and on the case, it said "strangely limited edition". i was just wondering if anybody could tell me any more about this, like how limited is it, is it any good, is it worth buying, etc.? _______ ________ _______ ____ /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith Subject: Re: (mobility) Prodigy Date: 05 Mar 1997 00:50:09 -0600 (CST) This isn't moby or even music related, but I am having problems with my computer. I just lost netscape today due to some error labeled... msvcrt 40.dll I also lost the ability to run a program in dos due to a CRC error. If anyone knows or has heard of these errors, any kind of info would be greatly appreciated...mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Prodigy Date: 05 Mar 1997 15:58:17 -0500 (EST) perhaps a virus..perhaps some psycho hacker has invaded the priavacy of your computer?..just suggestions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Speaker for the Dead Subject: (mobility) intro Date: 06 Mar 1997 14:12:08 -0600 What's up, everybody... I'm a new guy on the list, so I thought to introduce myself. I'm a twenty year old college student, soon to be a Texas Aggie. I don't have much of a Moby collection as such, but I've got a few. Since I heard the Rainforest Mix of Go on a techno cd I borrowed from a buddy a while back, I have been grabbing up all the Moby stuff I can. Anyway, I'm engrossed in the beginnings of March Madness just now, so I'm going to shut up. Adios... Jeff Wakley Speaker@brigadoon.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith Subject: Re: (mobility) intro Date: 06 Mar 1997 15:54:56 -0600 (CST) I just picked up the new U2 album, and for those of you who like U2, it is a good album.....mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) intro Date: 06 Mar 1997 17:46:00 -0500 yup. it IS a cool album. good riffing. kinda dies after miami though. Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stoic Subject: (mobility) no email for me for a week Date: 06 Mar 1997 20:50:08 -0500 (EST) just letting everyone know that i'll be away from my computer for a week while i'm on spring break from school. see you all later this month. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Our face is not a jackel that devours all it sees -Baby moving closer to the future Fox transforming our disease" 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Yet Another Review Date: 07 Mar 1997 13:14:32 -0500 This one is from the local school paper... CD Briefs by Josh Casten Moby's debut was a surprising mix of aural melodies, hyper dance beats and some outright thrash. But sometime between then and now, he got tired of dance music, and decided to record a straight-up rock record. The sound of Animal Right is basically a lo-fi Nine Inch Nails - his guitars sound a little too washed out, the drums are muffled and Moby is using way too much reverb on his own voice. Animal Rights is also sorely lacking in variety - almost everything is at 200 bpm with lots of shouting, over melodies that can only be described as brutish. The only relief comes from the soundscape instrumentals, something that Moby can still pull off pretty well. The second half of the CD is in fact dominated by slower, more patient material. "Old" and the violin-accented "Love Song For My Mom" are just plain beautiful, achingly hypnotic and soothing. But it's still pretty jarring to be riding the chaotic wave that reaches a peak with "That's When I Reach For My Revolver" and then get dumped on a glittering, soothing beach. Ok..it's me again..the review came w/ a picture I don't recognize(maybe it's w/ the US AR?!?)..Moby's sitting on concrete(?!?!)...one hand to his head... one on his knee..looks like he has Nike's on...2 Black guys are walking behind him...gonna get ahold of the paper to see where they got it...Also...just a reminder...set your vcr's to record this weeks 120 Minutes..Moby's gonna be a guest (woo hoo!) :) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor Email Addy's: Fishlips@ahbqs.com Rtaylor@varney.idbsu.edu Website: www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm "People suing ski areas should be shot" --Scot Schmidt =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (mobility) Yet Another Review Date: 07 Mar 1997 12:50:38 -0800 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > Ok..it's me again..the review came w/ a picture I don't recognize(maybe it's > w/ the US AR?!?)..Moby's sitting on concrete(?!?!)...one hand to his head... > one on his knee..looks like he has Nike's on...2 Black guys are walking behind The closest picture I've seen to what you described is the one on the Official US Website: http://www.elektra.com/ambient_club/moby/moby.html He's on concrete and there are people behind him.. I also saw this one in the Rolling Stone article on-line when the US version of AR came out. > him...gonna get ahold of the paper to see where they got it...Also...just a > reminder...set your vcr's to record this weeks 120 Minutes..Moby's gonna be a > guest (woo hoo!) :) Thanks for telling us this! I usually miss 120 Minutes... Shaun -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-jAdenX-" Subject: Re: (mobility) PRODIGY Date: 07 Mar 1997 15:41:45 CST I bought that CD on Monday and I can't stop listening to it!!!! I highly recommend it. I don't think it is rare. The reason you are seeing it now is that Elektra dropped Progigy and now they are big so they issue more singles and albums out in distribution. BTW, Prodigy will be here in Chicago on April 14th at the Metro! I'm there. -Carmen ********************************************************* Baronec@email.rosary.edu JadenX@aol.com CHECK OUT MY WAVERACE PAGE!!!!!! TIMES AND SCORES NOW UP! http://members.aol.com/JadenX/waverace.html ********************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:52:04 -0600 >Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? Blur...they have that diversity thing going with their new CD I just bought today. Its like A bit Happy Mondays, a bit Hard, a bit Trippy. >Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? Julia Child...she needs some good Vegan mixes these days. Way too many meat dishes, and that Frugal Gourmet guy is a pedophile I guess...so that would be bad. But seriously...he should trade mixes with Beck. Cool combo. >Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) Went offline by giving up his email. Does he realise the potential audience he has? >Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? Young Moby (teen) - Lukas Haas Older Moby - Skeet Ulrich (from that cool movie 'Touch') --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "It was no surface but all feeling...maybe at the time it felt like dreaming" - Manic Street Preachers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 11 Mar 1997 21:22:34 -0800 > Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? trick and/or bjork.. mad professor, everclear > Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? U2!, tricky, bjork, underworld > Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) sent a press package to People magazine (cool photo though) > Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? shit.. i saw some male model who looks kinda like moby.. hmmm..... for those you that play computer games.. how about moby starring in a Leisure Suit Larry movie? -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREENWOOD@abbinstuk.com (Mark Greenwood) Subject: Re: (mobility) hey! am i the only one? / Christianity Date: 12 Mar 1997 12:44 GMT Moby criticises other although he himself has failing? Well I think that's a good thing, as you can't always see your own faults and it takes someone from outside to point these things out. If none of us criticised others because we we busy contemplating our own navels, what a quiet little introspective world we'd live in. Imagine a world with no discussion or debate, no criticism, no differences of opinion, no Mobilty :-( He' human like the rest of us, he isn't God. He con't always be right, but he does have a point of view. I personally respect him a lot because he has opinions and is prepared to use all media to express them. Better that sitting at home and saying nothing. Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 12 Mar 1997 15:22:43 +0200 (EET) At 08.36 11.3.1997 PST, you wrote: >I already sent some of these to the list, but I don't think they got >through. >I haven't seen any Stupid Questions (tm) in a while, so I thought I'd ask >some: > >Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? Bjork, i guess.. > >Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? U2, Public Enemy, Robert Miles, David moraler etc.. > >Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) > >Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? > >Aaron Ackerson > > +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith Subject: Re: (mobility) That's When I Reach For My Revolver US Promo Date: 12 Mar 1997 10:41:15 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, Ravi Baskaran wrote: > I saw this today. I can't remember the exact tracks (one was called Moby's > Mix, another Rollo and Sister Bliss Mix; I think there were five total). > Does anyone know the tracklisting of the US version and when it will be > released? > US Animal Rights 1. Dead Sun 2. Someone to Love 3. Heavy Flow 4. You 5. Now I Let it Go 6. Come on Baby 7. Soft 8. Anima 9. Say it's All Mine 10. TWIRFMR 11. Alone 12. Face It 13. Old 14. Living 15. Love Song for my Mon 16. Season in Hell You can get it at stores now. It was released in early Feb......mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Recoil and Voodoo Child Date: 12 Mar 1997 15:25:40 -0500 (EST) where can i get that Voodoo Child single of Higher? L.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on 120 minutes... Date: 12 Mar 1997 15:28:46 -0500 (EST) hey man..MxPx makes some real great pop punk....it's real nice..for their ages, the kind of music they make totally reflects their lifestyle and all....possibly the one relation that they might have with Moby is that they are also "Christians". L.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) That's When I Reach For My Revolver US Promo Date: 12 Mar 1997 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) where did u see this US promo? L.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Moon Subject: (mobility) a little moby in entertainment weekly Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:02:49 -0500 (EST) I just joined the list, so this article may have been mentioned and discussed already. My apologies if this is so. I ran across this on another mailing list and thought the little moby quote was interesting. ----- Sun Lee AC 1609 Amherst College Amherst MA 01002-5000 USA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ROCK IS DEAD LONG LIVE...? With grunge on life support and sales flatlining, the music biz is looking to spark a rebirth with electronica. But can you dance to it? By Chris Willman [snip] Beck himself hardly counts as a techno-cian. But one of the godfathers of the genre, Moby, pointedly prefers Beck's revolutionary brand of electronically enhanced hip-hop-rock over the massive wave of dance music he helped inspire. "All the journalists who are getting excited about this 'electronica' revolution, I feel they missed the boat," sniffs Moby, who's done his small part to buck the tide by going back to guitars on his latest album, Animal Rights. "The stuff that's going on now is a real pale imitation of what was happening five years ago. It would be like people declaring a punk-rock revolution in 1985." The future, Moby claims, is in hybrids: "There are great electronic records and great rock records. The thing that interests me is people combining the two--Beck being a good example, someone who basically made an electronic record but sang on top of it." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on 120 minutes... Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:53:13 -0500 normally i ahte punk but i do like mxpx and i have NEVER seen a band live that plays that fast and that tight...makes me jealous. :) heres hopin mxpx lands on mtv1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 12 Mar 1997 17:46:14 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-12 00:59:37 EST, you write: > Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? Bjork > > Moby must have been on crack when he did crack. ;) > > Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? hmm, didnt moby have a part in Joes apt?...mabye moby is quite the actor, tho i cant see him playing someone he is not...a bit of dishonesty...but i think moby would play himself > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" Subject: Re: (mobility) hey! am i the only one? Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:30:59 -0800 no .. I've been getting three sometimes ;) but I put the blame on the poster -- Scott Bruce ... "It is said that whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. In fact, whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first hand the equivalent of a stick with a fizzing fuse and Acme Dynamite Company written on the side. It's more interesting, and doesn't take so long." - Terry Pratchet ---------- > From: eric weiss > To: mobility@mail.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) hey! am i the only one? > Date: Tuesday, March 11, 1997 2:34 PM > > am i the only one who is getting two copies of every message? > -- > Eric Weiss > Epicentre Productions > > eric_w@geocities.com > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ > http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html > http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip > > "If you were god what would upset you more, > bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of > healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 12 Mar 1997 19:38:38 -0500 ok heres a question. anyon ehere seen moby live? if so id like to ask a few questions about how he does things. could stand to learn from the big m's example Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@denmark-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 12 Mar 1997 19:55:24 +0000 > Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? robert smith... with his deep lyrics and moby's deep music, they can't go wrong... > Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? hmmm... maybe baby d or omni trio... > Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) was supposedly going to produce an album for hole (i'm not sure if he ever did...) and/or sang "new dawn fades"... > Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? well, if you're talking about looks, then kevin spacey would probably be good... and have no idea otherwise... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) hey! am i the only one? Date: 12 Mar 1997 17:37:21 -0800 halo wrote: > no .. I've been getting three sometimes ;) but I put the blame on the > poster not to keep this thread for going forever but i just find it ironic that i just got two copies of your post... oh well... whatever... nevermind -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 12 Mar 1997 20:36:25 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Sinjin wrote: > ok heres a question. anyon ehere seen moby live? if so id like to ask a > few questions about how he does things. could stand to learn from the > big m's example well, i saw him in 95 i think, way before animal rights. it was just him and two drummers on stage. there was one keyboard in the center along with a drum pad and two congas. there was also a guitar behind everything. the drummers were on both sides. he played mostly EIW stuff along with a few older toons. he finnished with 1000 while standing on top of the keybaord and pumping his fists into the air and posing like christ on the cross. there were lots of flashing strobes and stuff during that part too! it was cool watching him jump around and get all sweaty. it got REALLY hot pretty quick with everyone dancing and frolicing (sp?) around. he opened with an extreamly extended version of hymn. when the song couldn't possibly build up any more, it stopped and he said, "my name is moby" and instantly ripped into ah ah. i just about died then and there. it was probably the most energy packed show i've ever been to, and i like to think i've been to quite a few. and on that note, dose anyone else have their U2 tickets yet? i got mine last week for a show in october at the metrodome, 68th row on the floor. sorry if i'm rambling, i'm really tired... -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gfunk1138@aol.com Subject: (mobility) hullo, i'm new Date: 12 Mar 1997 21:50:19 -0500 (EST) hi there, im new to the list (i've only been on a week or two). My name is justin, i live near chicago and am 16. im a saggitarius, i like reading and sometimes writing. I enjoy watching movies (good, bad, mediocre, ive only felt taht one movies was a waste of my time, but in retrospect it wasnt too bad). I love moby quite dearly, ive been listening to him for a few years now, ever since my sister brought home a copy of the MOVE ep. I got everything is wrong pretty early after its release, and i dig alot of his older stuff. my favorite moby cd would be the Evil Ninja Moby mix of EIW, prefferably the first disc. ummm...i like aphex twin, but tahts not waht this list is about, is it? i dont post very often to anything unless tehre is an important point to the opst (ie, i have something valid to say) oh yeah, i dig almost every form of music, with certain exceptions along their lines, and i dont count country into that mix. Why? because country just sucks thats why. umm i think that's all ive got to say for now, lest i come up with something original, maybe ill post it. "We are wanderers from the birth of the universe to its death, for there is neither death nor birth. The winds we are..." - Haruki Murakami Justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gfunk1138@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 12 Mar 1997 22:10:09 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-12 00:59:37 EST, you write: Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? Aphex Twin, Bjork, massive attack Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? underworld coldcut orbital Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) came up with the idea for "thousand," lets be honest, its anifty song but there is no real point to it other thatn is insane speed. Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? in theory, no one would make amovie about him until he died, in which case any actor taht i name would be too old to play him, as such defeating the purpose. but if one were to make amovie about him, i would say taht he is the only one who could do it properly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 13 Mar 1997 09:00:09 +0000 At 10:10 PM 3/12/97 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 97-03-12 00:59:37 EST, you write: Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? Johnny Violent/Ultraviolence,The Prodigy,Brian Eno. Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? Beck,The Prodigy,seen as how they haven't remixed for Moby yet and Goldie. Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) let MTV chancge the lyrics in "revolver".It sounds so shitty. Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? At the risk of being laughed at,I'd say that Tom Hanks would look like Moby(a bit) if he had a shaved head.I'd also give Val Kilmer serious thought.(not just cos he did such a brilliant job with Jim Morrison, but cos I think he's a very good actor.) Col. " Standing in line,believing the lies, You bow down to the flag You got a bullet in your head. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 13 Mar 1997 14:03:07 +0200 (EET) At 20.36 12.3.1997 -0600, you wrote: >On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Sinjin wrote: > >> ok heres a question. anyon ehere seen moby live? if so id like to ask a >> few questions about how he does things. could stand to learn from the >> big m's example > >well, i saw him in 95 i think, way before animal rights. it was just him >and two drummers on stage. there was one keyboard in the center along >with a drum pad and two congas. there was also a guitar behind >everything. the drummers were on both sides. >he played mostly EIW stuff along with a few older toons. he finnished >with 1000 while standing on top of the keybaord and pumping his fists >into the air and posing like christ on the cross. there were lots of >flashing strobes and stuff during that part too! >it was cool watching him jump around and get all sweaty. it got REALLY >hot pretty quick with everyone dancing and frolicing (sp?) around. he >opened with an extreamly extended version of hymn. when the song couldn't >possibly build up any more, it stopped and he said, "my name is moby" and >instantly ripped into ah ah. i just about died then and there. >it was probably the most energy packed show i've ever been to, and i like >to think i've been to quite a few. >and on that note, dose anyone else have their U2 tickets yet? i got mine >last week for a show in october at the metrodome, 68th row on the floor. >sorry if i'm rambling, i'm really tired... >-xaq- > > U2 is coming to Finland in next summer and they had already sell all tickets to it.. i didn't bought any tickets because i dont like U2 very much.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Old Mail Date: 13 Mar 1997 11:44:00 -0500 MO>and speaking of guns, i REALLY HATE the changed words. it pisses me off MO>that moby would aggree to change them just to get on mtv. he was talking MO>about how he is doing what he wants with his music and isn't concrened MO>about what people think and then goes and changes it to make the MO>cry-babies at mtv happy. what a hypocrit (sp?)... MO>-xaq- zbentz@d.umn.edu I know this is an old post..but seeing how I had problems w/ my email and couldn't respond to it in a timely fashion...I thought I'd do it now... Look at it this way Xaq..Moby will always be a hypocrite...to go on tour he has to use fossil fuels(more than likely)...a computer(used to chat on SonicNet) isn't environmentally friendly...unless he uses that Greenpeace studio(that Orbital used for one of their songs) to make/produce his music...his music won't be ef(environ. friendly)...etc etc etc...See my point??? Seems to me he's striving to better himself..but from time to time he'll be a hypocrite in doing it...And as I've said b4..sometimes you have to sell yourself to the devil(MTV in this case) to get what you want(exposure) Ryan [.sig to return as soon as I can figure out this email program] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 13 Mar 1997 11:43:52 -0500 MO>Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? Jack Dangers MO>Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? Jack once again... MO>Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) passed over Boise, Idaho on any of his tour stops ;> MO>Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? Himself?!!? Ryan P.S. Sorry for disapearing for a while(few days)...had a little trouble w/ the email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@spain-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 13 Mar 1997 14:12:23 +0000 cool... another meat beat manifesto fan... i'm like the only one in north carolina... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Old Mail Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:12:21 -0800 to add to the whole moby = hypocrit thing: every time you blink, take a step, brush your teeth.. you are killing tiny little animals (dust mites, bacteria, what ever) so to say you live your life without killing another being is impossible (unless you live in a sterile bubble.. which has been done btw) -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 13 Mar 1997 17:00:25 -0500 if you like meat beat then check out Allison with one..its my friend matt jeanes' band and hes MISTER meat beat manifesto Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Old Mail Date: 13 Mar 1997 17:03:58 -0500 heres my take on Veganism/killing our friends the trees and animals. I have a GORGEOUS leather jacket that is over 20 years old. ive never seen one like it. its been my best friend in cold weather for a long time, and is quite useful in wet weather as well. i was at a friends place one day and she had a male friend over who fit your punk/save everything stereotype to a T. he asked me, "how many cows died to give you that jacket?" to which I replied, "Seven. You want their names?" Selah. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: infinite.oblivion@juno.com (Rizwan J Mahmud) Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility Digest V1 #16 Date: 13 Mar 1997 20:06:50 EST Who would you like to see Moby collaborate with? Aphex Twin, Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Me :), Orbital, and some rap dudes (wu tang, dr. dre, cypress hill etc. can you imagine Moby remixing that stuff? :) Who would you like to see Moby trade mixes with? Umm. All the people I said in the first response. Moby must have been on crack when he _____ (fill in the blank) Wrote the song Thousand. :) Man that song is the one bad Moby song I've ever heard. Who would play Moby in a movie about his life? Himself. :) Aaron Ackerson Infinite Oblivion scrape / explizit / bg net news / superego software infinite.oblivion@juno.com io@audiophile.com io603@aol.com [http://www.joes.com/home/io My junky little page. Only text. ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 14 Mar 1997 11:36:40 -0500 MO>cool... another meat beat manifesto fan... i'm like the only one in MO>north carolina... MO>lee Are you on the zombies list as well??? Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@cyprus-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: Re: (mobility) stupid questions Date: 14 Mar 1997 14:58:03 +0000 > MO>cool... another meat beat manifesto fan... i'm like the only one in > MO>north carolina... > > MO>lee > > Are you on the zombies list as well??? > > Ryan nope... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: babylemonade67@juno.com (James P Carr) Subject: (mobility) Enhanced CD Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:48:46 EST Ok quick question, I bought the Moby enhanced CD and it will not work on my Windows 95. It works on my girlfriend's Windows 3.1. has anyone encountered this problem or can offer any help? James C. BABY LEMONADE: http://members.aol.com/DALI67/babylemonade.html PETA: http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/PETA/ Love all sentient creatures, whether they be animal or man, and always be truthful to yourself and others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Enhanced CD Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:10:17 -0800 i have gotten it to work just fine under Win95... email me privately and tell me how you installed it... (you should use the Start/Settings/Control Panel/Add-Remove Programs to do it) -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@spain-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: Re: (mobility) moby tunes... Date: 15 Mar 1997 00:51:21 +0000 i never saw the movie "heat" before, but moby's "god moving over the face of the waters" is played at the end, and i'm not sure what version it is... it's slightly different from the album version... they also have "new dawn fades" by moby... it seems to be a good soundtrack for the most part... moby, william orbit (lots of songs), ultraviolence, to name a few... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Twirfmr promos.. Date: 15 Mar 1997 11:17:22 +0200 (EET) >PRCD 9711-2 / MOBY / THAT'S WHEN I REACH FOR MY REVOLVER >in jewel case with front and back inserts. cd is black with moby's >emblem in silver and a track listing of the cd printed on it with the >usual copyright notices. back insert lists much the same. > >Track Listing: > >1) That's When I Reach For My Revolver / album version / 3:56 >2) Someone To Love / live version / 3:29 >3) You / live version / 1:58 >4) Whip It / death metal version unavailable on album / 4:20 > >PRCD 9721-2 / MOBY / THAT'S WHEN I REACH FOR MY REVOLVER >in jewel case with front and back inserts. cd is orange with moby's >emblem in black and a track listing of the cd printed on it with the >usual copyright notices. back insert lists much the same in a much >plainer form than the other promo. > >Track Listing: > >1) That's When I Reach For My Revolver / 3:55 > i just saw these to sell.. i dont remember are these listed on Dan's discography.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Enhanced CD Date: 15 Mar 1997 13:03:57 -0500 (EST) well....i bought mine and it worked for Windows 95..the one problem i had was with the "clicking on everything that moved"....the more i clicked, the more i got pissed off cos i didn't get deeper into the thing at all (as it says)..if anyone can help me with that, i would be forever grateful...thanx.... L.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@hungary-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: (mobility) moby tunes... Date: 15 Mar 1997 13:26:01 +0000 did anyone know that a couple of moby songs are on the movie "heat" soundtrack? "new dawn fades" and "god moving across the face of the wates" were on it, and "god..." was played at the end of the movie while somebody was dying (i know who, but don't wanna spoil it for those who don't...) and it varied slightly from the album version but didn't say what version it was at the end of the movie... the soundtrack seems pretty good... moby, lotsa william orbit, ultraviolence, etc... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby tunes... Date: 15 Mar 1997 14:46:24 -0500 (EST) yeah.."New Dawn Fades" can be found on one of the "Feeling so Real" remixes....it's one with a bright orange cover....the Heat version of "God....." can be found on the UK import of TWIRFMR single (orange colored). it's real nice.....that scene at the end of the movie + that song almost made me cry! ( :`+( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" Subject: Re: (mobility) Enhanced CD Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:21:10 -0800 it might not be win 95.. it could be your cd-rom drive, I know my old mitsumi 4x used to run everything I could put into it ;) but the new toshiba we bought won't run any of my ecds peace! -- Scott Bruce ... "It is said that whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. In fact, whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first hand the equivalent of a stick with a fizzing fuse and Acme Dynamite Company written on the side. It's more interesting, and doesn't take so long." - Terry Pratchet ---------- > From: James P Carr > To: mobility@xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) Enhanced CD > Date: Friday, March 14, 1997 6:48 PM > > Ok quick question, I bought the Moby enhanced CD and it will not work on > my Windows 95. It works on my girlfriend's Windows 3.1. has anyone > encountered this problem or can offer any help? > > James C. > BABY LEMONADE: http://members.aol.com/DALI67/babylemonade.html > PETA: http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/PETA/ > Love all sentient creatures, whether they be animal or man, and always be > truthful to yourself and others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Enhanced CD Date: 15 Mar 1997 19:00:56 -0800 if you read on the back of the CD case it has a list of CD-ROM drives that are incompatible... this is because the disc does not conform to Red Book standards.. ie: its a mutant disc and basiccly they are lucky it works on so many drives.... -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) Re: Great B-Sides! Date: 15 Mar 1997 21:27:32 -0600 (CST) > Doesn't Moby just make the greatest B-Side songs?? Well, I don't > know about "Whip It" and "New Dawn Fades" ;) hey! :) new dawn fades is great! yeah, i don't much care for whip it... > Anyways, I was just listening to "Shining" again and I just realized > that it is probably one of my favorite Moby tracks. ooh, yeah! that's a terrific track! that's why i bought the ECD DISK, as i don't have a mac or an IBM, so it certainly wasn't for the ROM parts. i don't know if i mentioned this or not... i have a nagging feeling i did, but... everyone out there get yello's hands on yello the updates CD. it's remixes by various artists including moby, the orb, oliver lieb, the grid, plutone, jam & spoon, westbam and others. the strings in the moby mix remind me of the strings from shining, actually. seeyuz... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Great B-Sides! Date: 15 Mar 1997 22:41:29 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-15 22:34:47 EST, you write: > everyone out there get yello's hands on yello the updates CD. it's > remixes by various artists including moby, the orb, oliver lieb, > the grid, plutone, jam & spoon, westbam and others. the strings > in the moby mix remind me of the strings from shining, actually. > i'm sorry, i didnt understand the name of the CD and the name of the group/label...what is it? confused, tired, and asking stupid questions the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Great B-Sides! Date: 15 Mar 1997 20:48:06 -0700 danperry@execpc.com wrote: > > everyone out there get yello's hands on yello the updates CD. it's > remixes by various artists including moby, the orb, oliver lieb, > the grid, plutone, jam & spoon, westbam and others. the strings > in the moby mix remind me of the strings from shining, actually. Yeah, I got this CD quite some time ago and have enjoyed it emensely. Moby's contribution was great, IMHO! :) I wish I had "Hands On Yello - The Updates". I didn't realize that this came out until a year or so after the fact. However, this Update doesn't have any Moby. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Great B-Sides! Date: 15 Mar 1997 20:55:25 -0700 MOBYchild@aol.com wrote: > > i'm sorry, i didnt understand the name of the CD and the name of the > group/label...what is it? Just for clarification here's the info. The first remix album for the group Yello is called "Hands On Yello", I recommend picking this up. Moby left a beautiful contribution. When you get the booklet that comes with the album, read the little blurb that Moby says.... I'll quote if I get the chance later. The second album called "Hands On Yello - The Updates" does have Moby but his track isn't any different from the previous release. Hope that helps, and enjoy! Yello: Hands On Yello [20 Mar 1995] remix album LP: 1985 GE (Urban/Motor Music/Polygram; 527383-1) CD: 1985 GE (Urban/Motor Music/Polygram; 527383-2) CS: 1985 GE (Urban/Motor Music/Polygram; 527383-4) 5:40 Dr. Van Steiner (cosmic baby's hands on yello) 3:06 Bostich (westbam's hands on yello - video cut?) 5:17 Ciel Ouvert (jens's hands on yello) 3:58 Great Mission (jam & spoon's hands on yello) 5:50 Crash Dance (oliver lieb's hands on yello) 4:44 Vicious Games (the grid's hands on yello - 12" edit) 5:38 Oh Yeah (plutone's hands on yello) 5:00 Live At The Roxy (ilsa gold's hands on yello) 5:34 I Love You (hardsequencer's hands on yello) 5:04 L'Hotel (carl cox's hands on yello) 5:50 La Habanera (carl craig's hands on yello) 5:39 Excess (the orb's hands on yello) 6:04 Lost Again (moby's hands on yello) Yello: Hands On Yello - The Updates [1995] remix compilation album ?xLP: 1995 GE (Urban/Motor Music GmbH; 527383-1) [box set] 2xCD: 1995 GE (Urban/Motor Music GmbH; 527728-2) [CD1:] 7:21 Live At The Roxy (ilsa gold's hands on yello - long version) 6:31 Bostich (westbam's hands on yello - machine mix) 7:29 L'Hotel (carl cox' hands on yello - long version) 10:55 You Gotta Say Yes/Great Mission (j&s uff die 12-mix) 5:51 Crash Dance (oliver lieb's hands on yello) 5:34 I Love You (hardsequencer's hands on yello) 9:03 Desire V2 (oliver lieb's hands on yello) 4:24 Oh Yeah (plutone's hands on yello - short version) [CD2:] 5:24 Dr. Van Steiner (cosmic baby's hands on yello - short version) 7:42 Ciel Ouvert (jens's hands on yello - long version) 5:45 La Habanera (carl craig's hands on yello) 4:32 Vicious Games (the grid's hands on yello - ambient mix) 6:00 Lost Again (moby's hands on yello) 12:59 Excess (the orb's hands on yello - long version) -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Enhanced CD Date: 15 Mar 1997 23:54:44 -0500 (EST) have you met moby? i was wondering how old is he....and whatz his birthday.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Moby in Dallas Date: 16 Mar 1997 12:06:15 -0700 I just got this info: Moby is coming to Edgefest on April 20th at the Coca-Cola Starplex in Dallas, Texas, along with Beck, Prodigy, and many more! --- Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Dallas Date: 16 Mar 1997 13:14:05 -0800 Daniel Cerman wrote: > I just got this info: > > Moby is coming to Edgefest on April 20th at the Coca-Cola Starplex > in Dallas, Texas, along with Beck, Prodigy, and many more! I have to warn people that the Starplex is the worst place you could see your favorite artist.. unless you feel like watching Moby on huge TVS... because the seats are okay but if you dont get a seat you sit in the field in the back and watch the monitors... its really a horrible arena... and the sound sucks too.. oh well... -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew james smith Subject: (mobility) Afterhours Date: 16 Mar 1997 18:09:06 -0600 (CST) Well everyone. I have a nice little tale to tell from the afterhours party I was at last night. The party was starting to wind down, in terms of dancing. I was having a chat with the DJ, and I asked him if he had any Moby, funny enough he did, and he played one of the many mixes of go. And wouldn't you know it, the place started to get jump'n again. By the end of the song the dance floor was packed again. I just smiled and thought to myself......if these people only knew...mjs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Great B-Sides! Date: 16 Mar 1997 20:05:38 -0500 (EST) hi iwas wondering where do i get that cd your talking about??? hands on yello thanks.,,,:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on 120 minutes... Date: 17 Mar 1997 01:14:18 -0500 (EST) At 01:44 AM 3/10/97 +0000, you wrote: >he made a lot of great points about raves nowadays... he couldn't be >more right... i've was in denile about his turn in musical interests, >but i have to agree about the raves, and i can see how that can sway >a person away from the scene... what did he say exactly? i missed the show. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Our face is not a jackel that devours all it sees -Baby moving closer to the future Fox transforming our disease" 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: Re: (mobility) Afterhours Date: 17 Mar 1997 01:21:49 -0600 (CST) On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, matthew james smith wrote: > Well everyone. I have a nice little tale to tell from the afterhours > party I was at last night. The party was starting to wind down, in terms > of dancing. I was having a chat with the DJ, and I asked him if he had > any Moby, funny enough he did, and he played one of the many mixes of > go. And wouldn't you know it, the place started to get jump'n again. By > the end of the song the dance floor was packed again. I just smiled and > thought to myself......if these people only knew...mjs i also have a happy story about saturday night! the radio station i dj at, KUMD, and more specifically the RPM show, put on it's first "rave" saturday night. i say "rave" 'cause it was really small and only went till 11pm. but "dance" sounds too jr. high and "party" sounds like it should involve beer or something. so anyway, this rave featured the talents of five RPM djs, me being one of them. the first two guys played mostly house and jungle. kevin craig totally blew my mind with his scratching and cutting. he was better than anything i've heard on any mixtape or cd. than it was me. i mixed into the lungle with "feeling so real" westbam mix, pitched up a bit. it was awesome! i continued with the happy hardcore stuff for a bit, then totally changed the tempo with "creator" by messiah. i was really nervous at first 'cause it was my first time spining in front of real people and ALSO my first time using a really good mixer. i use two 1200 at the station so i've used to them, but they were set up in "battle formation" so it was a bit tough getting used to that at first. after about 15 minutes though, i calmed down. i also played "feeling so real" old skool. the next guy went strait to gabber and some really hard edged stuff. he eventually settled down to tracks like "atom bomb" by fluke. then demonica del rio ripped into the industrial! her set was by far my favorite. i felt like a bowl of jell-o after she was done. we had an ok turn out. demonica and i had the biggest crowds on the dance floor. i can't wait to do it again! the one hour i had just seemed to fly by. i could've kept going all night once i got over my nervousness. i guess this is a bit long and no too moby oriented, so i'll stop now. -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: (mobility) pets (again) Date: 17 Mar 1997 01:28:23 -0600 (CST) sorry to bring up an old subject, but i just saw two shows on TLC. one about cats and the other about dogs. both of them mentioned that by domesticating a cat or dog, you are really robbing it of a chance to mature fully. they never "grow up" mentally. they never have to provide thier own food and hunt like they normally would, or provide safty for their young, therefore they are children till they die. just another thing to think about i guess... btw...i have two cats and two dogs. and some fish and a newt. -xaq- zbentz@d.umn.edu -O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k--O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k-O2k- omega 2000 = my band!! DEBUT CD NOW AVAILABLE! $10 the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." < - m o b y - > "i got the poison to put in the lemonade" <-the prodigy, sort of...-> "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: (mobility) when the rain falls and the sky shudders Date: 17 Mar 1997 02:54:29 -0500 (EST) i met moby once...he was just off the stage...it was an outdoor thing...and everyone was coverd with mud cause it was rainy and ...well, muddy! But it was the best...I chatted with him too which was cool...he is kind of short actually but nice. He drew a little picture on my t-shirt...like the little cartoon guys he draws now and then..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Afterhours Date: 17 Mar 1997 08:42:36 -0500 congrats xaq :) hope things continue to go well. live performance is the lifeblood of the musician/dj. aint nothin in the world like it. :) Sinjin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on 120 minutes... Date: 17 Mar 1997 16:07:54 -0500 (EST) he said something like back in the days, like in the early 90's, the rave thing wasn't really based on the drugs and the dress codes that they are nowadays..u know? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hamlin, Gail" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby on 120 minutes... Date: 17 Mar 1997 17:01 -0500 >he said something like back in the days, like in the early 90's, the rave t>hing wasn't really based on the drugs and the dress codes that they are >nowadays..u know? Amen to that!!! Gail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 17 Mar 1997 15:48:44 -0500 Once again...here's another review of AR...This time from The Rocket(as they say, "The Northwest Music and Entertainment Magazine") Moby Animal Rights (Elektra CD) The most formative years of a child's life are supposedly his earliest ones. It seems the teenage years, however, were more influential in the life - or at least the career - of electronic pioneer and producer, Moby. An adolescent during the first half of the 1980's, Moby's love of synth pop bands like New Order and Echo and the Bunnymen unarguably led to his deep interest in techno and house music. Yet the early '80s also brought with them punk and new wave bands like Public Image Ltd. and Black Flag. Moby's latest effort, "Animal Rights", makes it clear that he was a product of the early '80s as a whole. Moby recently opened for Soundgarden on their European tour, and the latter's influence on "Animal Rights" is obvious in the album's metal-punk edge. The bass and guitar on "Face It," for instance, are as beliberate and oppressive as any of Soundgarden's slower, heavier pieces. The three-chord structure of "You," on the other hand, pays tribute to Moby's interest in punk, while the opening mechanized drums and metallic guitar of "Come On Baby" are reminiscent of Nine Inch Nails. Moby hasn't entirely lost his love of the experimental, interspersing instrumental interludes - many encompassing an entire synth-spawned string orchestra - throughout "Animal Rights". Nor has his independent spirit died; Moby played all the instruments on every song, save two, and engineered the album in his New York Studio. Still it's telling that "Animal Rights'" best track is a cover of Mission of Burma's "That's When I Reach for My Revolver." Judged on its own merits, "Animal Rights" isn't that bad. When placed within an historical context, problems arise. While Moby's electronic music made him a leader, his current foray into the world of metal relegates him to the role of a follower. With "Animal Rights", the former musicical pioneer has become just another Soundgarden or Trent Reznor rip-off. Nina Pealman Ok..me again...just curious..when was that tour w/ Soundgarden..cuz Moby started slowly turning back to his punk roots in '95(with EIW )..Also I don't know where Nina hears NIN in Moby's music...I sure don't..One last thing..I don't think Moby was THAT worried about how AR would fit in the historical context of music...Seems to me if he had been..he would have stuck w/ electronic music Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Digests **Admin Message** Date: 17 Mar 1997 15:54:22 -0700 This message mainly goes out to those subscribed to "mobility-digest". As you will have noticed before reading this message. You went without a digest for five days: Wednesday, 12 March 1997 - Volume 01 : Number 016 / 22.2 kB Monday, March 17 1997 - Volume 01 : Number 017 / 41.0 kB The majordomo system that carries out the mailing functions of this list was recently upgraded. However, the digest operations got messed up in the process. It explains why there was such a huge gap and why digest #17 was so huge (twice the size than normal - because of the que that sat until forced out today). Anyway, this is just mumbo jumbo and me trying to fill you. One last thing (and this goes for digest subscribers only); how do you like the size of the digests being sent? Please only take digests #1 - #16 into consideration (#17 was messed up as I have already explained). Each digest is normally 20 kb - 25 kb per issue. Should this be increased or decreased? Thanks. Any questions? Problems? Please let me know. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** owner-mobility@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) CNotes Moby Promotion Date: 17 Mar 1997 16:01:22 -0700 What follows is a response that I received from Greg with CNotes. Has been talking back and forth with me about this promotion since early February. I wrote him last week asking what progress was being made on the Moby internet link promotion. He doesn't give a time frame but at least it's something. Here is what he had to say: (Greg was advised that this would be forwarded to the mailing list) Hello Damian!! There were some difficulties (apparently in communications) with the labels sending out the CDs for similar promos in past giveaways. To avoid any further such incidents we are having Elektra send the MOBY CDs to us and we are going to send them out ourselves. I will let you know as soon as they arrive and are on their way. I appreciate all of your help and patience!! Greg Smith <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> C NOTES INTERACTIVE ------> http://www.cnotes.com Online Entertainment Marketing Web Page Design -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) CNotes Moby Promotion Date: 17 Mar 1997 15:10:12 -0800 from everyone on the list: thanks damian! there is no reason other than you're pure kindness why you followed up on this... this world needs more of you feeling like spreading some joy, eric -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cheezit Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Dallas Date: 17 Mar 1997 05:32:38 -0800 Daniel Cerman wrote: > > I just got this info: > > Moby is coming to Edgefest on April 20th at the Coca-Cola Starplex > in Dallas, Texas, along with Beck, Prodigy, and many more! oh...my god! sounds like the most kick ass concert available! our edgefest here in tulsa will have beck, but not any one else good(mighty mighty bosstones?!? give me a break). i gotta see if i can get to dallas! l8r, cheezit a transformer always knows the score is four leave you hangin on the floor for more and less and more of the blame ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:02:40 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-17 19:54:20 EST, you write: > Judged on its own merits, "Animal Rights" isn't that bad. When > placed within an historical context, problems arise. While Moby's > electronic music made him a leader, his current foray into the world of > metal relegates him to the role of a follower. With "Animal Rights", > the former musicical pioneer has become just another Soundgarden or > Trent Reznor rip-off. Nina Pealman > what kind of crack was this reporter smoking?...moby is no longer his own self, but the result of a strange band-mutation?...i wish some reporters would look beyond the recent history of the preformer. i think that bands today are copying Prodigy and Chem Bros, just to sound *cool*....moby, as long as i've listened to him, hasnt followed anyones lead, and i resent that he is now called a *former music pioneer*. really angry at NINA PEALMAN the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:05:57 -0500 As always, name dropping: New Order Echo and the>Bunnymen >Public Image Ltd. Black Flag. Soundgarden while the opening mechanized drums >and metallic guitar of "Come On Baby" are reminiscent of >Nine Inch Nails. The name dropping isn't as bad as it usually is, though. Reviewers are so little minded sometimes. All they can ever think about is NIN. Trent does great stuff, but he isn't the standard by which all music produced with a synthesizer is judged. Come on people, think a little when you review. > Moby hasn't entirely lost his love of the experimental, >interspersing instrumental interludes . . . throughout "Animal Rights". Nor has >his independent spirit died; Moby played all the instruments on every >song, save two, and engineered the album in his New York Studio. Still >it's telling that "Animal Rights'" best track is a cover of Mission of >Burma's "That's When I Reach for My Revolver." > Judged on its own merits, "Animal Rights" isn't that bad. When >placed within an historical context, problems arise. Oh, come on. Let's not be silly. While Moby's >electronic music made him a leader, his current foray into the world of >metal relegates him to the role of a follower. This reviewer doesn't really know what she's talking about. As we all know here, musically, Moby does whatever the hell he wants, whenever he wants, and the rest of us just have to roll with the punches. With "Animal Rights", >the former musicical pioneer has become just another Soundgarden or >Trent Reznor rip-off. > I don't think the reviewer was thinking too hard when she wrote this review. For example, she writes: Moby hasn't entirely lost his love of the experimental, >interspersing instrumental interludes . . . throughout "Animal Rights". Five sentences later, she writes: With "Animal Rights", >the former musicical pioneer has become just another Soundgarden or >Trent Reznor rip-off. Get my point? Just my critique. Hey, did everyone get my response about light photons last night? It didn't seem to get through. Or has the server been changed so that you don't get the messages you send? Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 17 Mar 1997 17:22:38 -0800 woah! can we go easy on the quoting previous messages.. or at least be a little neater about it.. phew.. anyway.. it seems that most people here are preaching to the converted.. as always i will say i enjoy moby, nin, fsol, marilyn manson, tricky, minor threat, etc.. and each for their individuality and independent creativity... i dont think trent could make a moby album and i dont think moby could make a nin records... i think we all agree on that.. and unfortunatly a lot of todays "record reviewers" resort to the crappy 'half one band, half another" description... or the famous 'sounds like some big time band on drugs' or whatever... thats why mainstream press sucks.. but oh well.. what can you do? -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:33:26 -0500 At 05:22 PM 3/17/97 -0800, you wrote: >woah! can we go easy on the quoting previous messages.. or at least be a >little neater about it.. phew.. hee hee hee anyway.. it seems that most people here >are preaching to the converted.. Eh? please clarify. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 18 Mar 1997 08:47:13 -0500 .smite mainstream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: (mobility) Wu-Tang Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:07:55 +0000 Who was it that liked the Wu-Tang? They are one of the best rap acts of all time.I love them. Anyone know the European date of their album release.I know that it's towards the end of April/start of May in the US,but what about Europe? Col. "YAH! If you don't want a burn from GLOCK Then beware, I buck shots, we move up, the buck stops Here, no more dough will be made Unless it's being made by who? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: technogod@armenia-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:50:07 +0000 okay... at first, i didn't really like AR, but i listened to it a lot over spring break, and it's pretty good in its own right... BUT, this nina chick said something about moby going from a pioneer to a follower? didn't he say on 120 minutes that he was going back to punk because everyone and their mother is going electronic? wouldn't that make him a second generation pioneer BACK to punk? or am i just interpreting what he said completely wrong? yeah, i listen to neworder and echo, and i don't think moby's music sounds anything like them... and didn't SPIN totally rape AR with a rating of 4 (out of 10)? i mean i was disappointed at first, but i wouldn't have given it a 4... they should judge the album and not compare it to previous work (which i'm guilty of, and i'll try not to do it again)... one thing that pissed me off around the release of AR was hearing TWIRFMR thrust in the middle of a chilli peppers/nirvana/stone temple mix... i thought moby deserved a little better rotation than that... but that's just me... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) CNotes Moby Promotion Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:52:53 +0200 (EET) At 15.10 17.3.1997 -0800, you wrote: >from everyone on the list: thanks damian! > >there is no reason other than you're pure kindness why you followed up >on this... this world needs more of you > >feeling like spreading some joy, >eric >-- >Eric Weiss >Epicentre Productions > >eric_w@geocities.com >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ >http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html >http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip > >"If you were god what would upset you more, >bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of >healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby > > i was wondering one thing of this promotion.. are they going to send some promo versions of animal rights or these same what are in the stores.. i am just wondering that.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 18 Mar 1997 08:54:46 -0500 MO>or whatever... thats why mainstream press sucks.. but oh well.. what can MO>you do? MO>-- MO>Eric Weiss MO>Epicentre Productions The Rocket isn't mainstream press though(at least I'd like to think so)..they only cover the NW(but do review stuff from all over the world)..We at least have to accept that not EVERYONE is gonna like AR(doesn't mean we have to accept what they say about it though)...The Rocket does accept(and print) letters..so if you wanna bitch Nina out(please do it in a civil way)..write to em at RocketSea@aol.com BTW..what I DON'T get is them having an aol addy..why not support one of the local ISP's..ooh..I'll write a letter ;> Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 18 Mar 1997 09:18:56 -0700 Today is supposed to be the release date for the Revolver remixes. Has anybody seen them? I just advance-ordered a vinyl release from CDnow, but didn't see a CD listed. Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) CNotes Moby Promotion Date: 18 Mar 1997 09:04:32 -0700 Samu Heinonen wrote: > > i was wondering one thing of this promotion.. are they going to send some > promo versions of animal rights or these same what are in the stores.. i am > just wondering that.. I have no idea. At first I assumed that it would be a store bought version but since it's coming from the label directly it could be a promo version. Who knows, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I didn't get too technical with Greg (at CNotes) about the stuff. :) p.s. we're still having problems with the digests!!!! grrrr... -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 18 Mar 1997 09:44:20 -0700 Daniel Cerman wrote: > > Today is supposed to be the release date for the Revolver remixes. Has > anybody seen them? I just advance-ordered a vinyl release from CDnow, > but didn't see a CD listed. Nope, haven't heard a thing. If it is to be released today, I'm surprised that nothing more specific has been mentioned or announced by Elektra or MCT. I also think it's strange how Elektra has been timing things. Elektra (I guess I should say SubPop) released Revolver as a 7" and three weeks later the album Animal Rights. Then they are supposedly releasing an actual single for Revolver almost a month after the album. Why not release Revolver w/the 7"? I'm sorry but with how things are looking and how trends normally go, I think we'll be lucky if we see one more single released from the album. After that it'll be a no go if the sales aren't more than promising. That's just my feelings, especially when it comes to Elektra. I thought things were looking up with the relationship between Moby and Elektra, but not any more. Then again, maybe it's still too early and I'll just end up eating my words. :) -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: (mobility) Animal Rights - Conversion Date: 18 Mar 1997 12:30:55 -0600 Okay I too have just picked up our hero's latest work, that being the 'Animal Rights' CD. Want a mini-review?...nope. Aint gonna have it, too many already posted and I'm sure you'll pass the words in one ear and out the other. But, my opinion...okay. I like it, I'm not disappointed with this 'new sound' that many have complained about over some messages here and there because yes, its somewhat his old style (I've not heard the older 'pre-techno' material ala Flipper and such, although Ultra Vivid Scene was very underrated, an awesome project - Kurt Ralske is better than Cobain) but is it just me, or can alot of these songs be converted into techno songs as well? Its already been done with 'Revolver' and I can see alot of tunes slipping into some remixers hands and being shaped into nice deviant digital delicacies. My favourites...'Say Its All Mine' and 'Face It' (all f-ing 10 minutes of it..ahhh) and I think they can be reworked into even better songs. Any other ideas? Does the single for 'Come on Baby' do the same? I'm lost in the 'singles' domain of Moby knowledge. I own no singles/imports/bootlegs/interviews/recitations/spoken word/remixes/acting auditions/phone messages/eraser shreds/etc. from Moby so maybe I'm in some unchartered territory here, but the music has the same feel as his earlier work, just a different package. I've already posted this before a few weeks ago, I just wanted to confirm my thoughts AFTER I heard the CD myself. I remember an old interview of Moby's where he said he likes to make music that sounds good even on a shitty cassette player like one he has at home, and this latest CD does that theory justice. Any word on his contribution to 'The Saint' soundtrack? Is it old/new/unreleased/demo/etc? Tell me. Scott Steg ----- "A line of vodka tears inside...A shot of boredom helps my mind." -- Manic Street Preachers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review... Date: 18 Mar 1997 13:54:36 -0500 (EST) At 10:50 AM 3/18/97 +0000, you wrote: >okay... at first, i didn't really like AR, but i listened to it a lot >over spring break, and it's pretty good in its own right... BUT, this >nina chick said something about moby going from a pioneer to a >follower? didn't he say on 120 minutes that he was going back to >punk because everyone and their mother is going electronic? wouldn't >that make him a second generation pioneer BACK to punk? or am i just >interpreting what he said completely wrong? i think you're right here. it's hard to be a pioneer of electronic music now that everybody's doing it. moby did his job a few years ago, and i think he's satisfied with that. by him going back to metal/punk and trying something kinda new with it (it's a tad different, you gotta admit) while nobody else is caring about the guitar, he is in fact becoming a pioneer again. reviewers like that girl don't really know much about what they are reviewing and it shows. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Our face is not a jackel that devours all it sees -Baby moving closer to the future Fox transforming our disease" 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: (mobility) spring heel jack Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:06:21 -0500 (EST) for those of you who are interested in spring heel jack, i just wanted to let you know that they finally have a web site. the address is: http://www.island-independent.com/springheeljack/ it's still new, and small, but has a message board and a contest running. check it out. sorry for the non-mobiness of this message, so to compensate, here's a question: if moby was to make a guest appearance on a tv sitcom, which sitcom would it be, and what would his roll be? love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Our face is not a jackel that devours all it sees -Baby moving closer to the future Fox transforming our disease" 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: (mobility) Moby's Cameo Date: 18 Mar 1997 13:41:27 -0600 Ryu Wrote... >if moby was to make a guest appearance on a tv >sitcom, which sitcom would it be, and what would >his roll be? Hopefully not Friends (I can't believe Chryssie Hynde did that...) or Ellen (Look, I'm a lesbian...suprised?..uh no.) My vote would be Third Rock from the Sun. He'd play an alien posing as a musician and his name would be Moby also (yes, its like the Dennis Rodman cameo, but better). They'd meet him in a bar or record store. Or, he could do what alot of other musicians have done...appear on 'The Adventures of Pete and Pete', but I don't have cable so that's not so good. Scott Steg ----- "A line of vodka tears inside...A shot of boredom helps my mind." -- Manic Street Preachers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Cameo Date: 18 Mar 1997 12:03:10 -0800 two words: X-Files -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Cameo Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:53:17 -0600 (CST) > Or, he could do what alot of other musicians have done...appear on 'The > Adventures of Pete and Pete', but I don't have cable so that's not so good. Oh man, you read my mind. Reading this took me back to seeing Michael Stipe on the screen saying "You look like a bona fide sludgesicle man" and raising his eyebrows and seeing Juliana Hatfield warning big Pete not to eat the meatloaf in the cafeteria. Great show, even without the musician cameos....is Pete and Pete still on, and if so, who's done cameos lately? As to what sitcom Moby would be on....I'm just going to have to vote for the X-Files...he would fit in SO well with the Lone Gunmen....heck, maybe we could persuade the producers to make that one guy that always wears the cool shirts (Ramones, Social Distortion before they became big, etc.) to wear a Moby shirt.... Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights - Conversion Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:07:45 -0700 Scott Stegenga wrote: > > Any word on his contribution to 'The Saint' soundtrack? Is it > old/new/unreleased/demo/etc? Tell me. I didn't know this. Can anyone provide the track listing? I know Oribital is on it, what about the rest? Thanks. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: (mobility) The Saint Date: 18 Mar 1997 15:41:00 -0600 Yes, Moby appears on the forthcoming sountrack for 'The Saint' along with alot of other techno artists (Daft Punk, Sneaker Pimps, Chemical Brothers to name a few). Check out the website: http://www.virginrecords.com/saint/ And its got some sound samples too. Moby's contribution 'Oil 1' sounds cool. No word on the release date. I'm looking forward to the movie not only because of the soundtrack and Elisabeth Shue (a tasty looking morsel, eh?), but because its based on the original UK TV series that made Roger Moore famous before he became James Bond. Ta Ta. Scott Steg ----- "A line of vodka tears inside...A shot of boredom helps my mind." -- Manic Street Preachers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 18 Mar 1997 14:46:42 -0700 Scott Stegenga wrote: > > Yes, Moby appears on the forthcoming sountrack for 'The Saint' along with > alot of other techno artists (Daft Punk, Sneaker Pimps, Chemical Brothers to > name a few). > > Check out the website: http://www.virginrecords.com/saint/ > > And its got some sound samples too. Moby's contribution 'Oil 1' sounds cool. > No word on the release date. Ahh!!!!!!!! Too cool, I've been waiting forever to see this release (Oil 1). We've known about it's existence through Daniel's discography. Thank you, thank you, thank you for the info. I'm off to check it out. :) -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Cameo Date: 18 Mar 1997 18:25:47 -0500 At 12:03 PM 3/18/97 -0800, you wrote: >two words: X-Files >-- Ahh ha! I think we have something here. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:44:32 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Scott Stegenga wrote: > Yes, Moby appears on the forthcoming sountrack for 'The Saint' along with > alot of other techno artists (Daft Punk, Sneaker Pimps, Chemical Brothers to > name a few). another great soundtrack is the one for the playstation game "wipeout xl". it features fluke, daft punk, chem. bros., prodigy, underworld, photek, fsol, orbital, sourse direct, and leftfield. it is one of the best collections of what's going on in techno/electro you can find. GET IT TODAY!!! -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heather Galterio (PSY)" Subject: Re: (mobility) Wu-Tang Date: 18 Mar 1997 18:41:04 -0500 (EST) I love Wu-Tang clan. Their style of rap is so much better than all these new "gangsta rap". They aren't promoting violence, they are just rapping because they love it. This is also true of A Tribe Called Quest, the next best in my opinion. Two groups, different styles, but the same message. Heather Galterio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heather Galterio (PSY)" Subject: Re: (mobility) Wu-Tang Date: 18 Mar 1997 18:41:04 -0500 (EST) I love Wu-Tang clan. Their style of rap is so much better than all these new "gangsta rap". They aren't promoting violence, they are just rapping because they love it. This is also true of A Tribe Called Quest, the next best in my opinion. Two groups, different styles, but the same message. Heather Galterio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spacecat@spideyweb.net (Rick Ackerson) Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 18 Mar 1997 06:20:49 PST I went to www.virginrecords.com/saint/artistsall.html and in their bio of moby, they quoted Dan's Ultimate Moby Page. I listened to the clip of Oil 1. It's ok. The whole song is probably good. Aaron Ackerson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" Subject: Re: (mobility) Wu-Tang Date: 18 Mar 1997 20:38:06 +0000 Hi. I feel the same way as you do regarding hip hop. I've loved that genre for quite a while now and I too find the gangsta style way too played out. While most people seem to feel that "gangsta rap" died with Eazy E, I think the majority of rappers today still are playing out that style, especially those from the West side of the US. Anyway, a Tribe Called Quest are still my favorite hip hop group, although I found their latest album to be a little too commercial for my taste, and as a whole dissappointing. It always saddens me to see my fav. artists make a song "listener" friendly, and not make it how they want it to sound. I'm not sure if the Tribe succombed to such a temptation, but I think that their lastest album is very different from their previous three. later, Ben PS- the Wu tang are my second favorite group. They have a nice raw sound that no other hip hop artists can touch. > From: "Heather Galterio (PSY)" > To: mobility@mail.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Wu-Tang > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Goldberg Subject: RE: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:40:57 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC33E5.42085160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey there, well im still figuring out OUTLOOK, so i guess you'll notice the difference when i can change to the way i had it... who knows i may eventually switch back.. anyways.. about the Revolver remixes, its only for the song revolver or is it for the whole album??? How much did it cost... and one more! :) its not gonna be as big as the etiw one is it??? you know two cds or so? anyways ttyl Eric -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 1997 11:19 AM Today is supposed to be the release date for the Revolver remixes. Has anybody seen them? I just advance-ordered a vinyl release from CDnow, but didn't see a CD listed. 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Date: 18 Mar 1997 22:18:56 -0500 I found this great quote..and it does relate to Moby(in a strange sort of way) :) "I am not a vegetarian, because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants." A. Whitney Brown Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Dallas Date: 18 Mar 1997 22:34:52 -0800 hey ;) don't knock mighty mighty bosstones .. heh, I guess you just don't know how to party :) peace! -- Scott Bruce ... "It is said that whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. In fact, whomsoever the gods wish to destroy, they first hand the equivalent of a stick with a fizzing fuse and Acme Dynamite Company written on the side. It's more interesting, and doesn't take so long." - Terry Pratchet ---------- > From: cheezit > To: mobility@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in Dallas > Date: Monday, March 17, 1997 5:32 AM > > Daniel Cerman wrote: > > > > I just got this info: > > > > Moby is coming to Edgefest on April 20th at the Coca-Cola Starplex > > in Dallas, Texas, along with Beck, Prodigy, and many more! > > oh...my god! sounds like the most kick ass concert available! our > edgefest here in tulsa will have beck, but not any one else good(mighty > mighty bosstones?!? give me a break). i gotta see if i can get to > dallas! > > l8r, > cheezit > a transformer always knows the score is four leave you hangin on the > floor for more and less and more of the blame ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) CNotes Moby Promotion Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:53:06 -0500 MO>At 15.10 17.3.1997 -0800, you wrote: MO>>from everyone on the list: thanks damian! MO>> MO>>there is no reason other than you're pure kindness why you followed up MO>>on this... this world needs more of you MO>> MO>>feeling like spreading some joy, MO>>eric MO>>-- MO>>Eric Weiss MO>>Epicentre Productions MO>> MO>>eric_w@geocities.com MO>>http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ MO>>http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html MO>>http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip MO>> MO>>"If you were god what would upset you more, MO>>bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of MO>>healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby MO>> MO>> MO>i was wondering one thing of this promotion.. are they going to send some MO>promo versions of animal rights or these same what are in the stores.. i am MO>just wondering that.. MO>+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ MO>| Samu | MO>| Heinonen | MO>| e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | MO>| Finland | MO>| http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | MO>+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ I hate to do this to the list..but since a certain someone won't listen to me in private email..maybe that same person will pay attention to me on the list...Samu..PLEASE stop overquoting! Maybe with my message(and my overquoting)...you'll realize how annoying it is. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) TV Choices Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:53:08 -0500 MO>if moby was to make a guest appearance on a tv MO>sitcom, which sitcom would it be, and what would MO>his roll be? Well..it's not really a sitcom..but I'd LOVE to see Moby on SNL(as a music guest of course) for two reasons: #1 See Moby somewhat live...#2 Be MUCH MUCH better then seeing those damn Spice Girls(which if you haven't heard..are rumored to be on SNL soon ) But as a sitcom choice...hmmmmm...ER maybe (mosh pit goes awry?...or fans of punk(not Moby) get pissed when he turns techno in the middle of the show and riot?)...seeing how ER is filmed in Chicago(is it not?) the local fans could catch sight of him?!?! Or Seinfeld(Jerry has to open for Moby?!!?) Mr. Bean(British show...not sure if it's still on since I've only seen in on tapes..but show would be him moshing to Moby..that'd be a pretty bizzare sight) Living in his own bizzare world... Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Moby Interview Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:53:24 -0500 I decided to give the Wasted box set(Best of Volume: Part 1, import) another listen...I had forgotten that Moby is on it(Go, subliminal mix)..and a guide came w/ the cd...and in that guide is a Moby Interview(warning...the ?'s came from a random ? generator)...the song first appeared in Volume 3(May 92)...so I think that's when the interview was done?!?! Anways : What is the most embarrassing thing that you have ever done? Not enough space here to describe adequately. What is the greatest record made in the last six years? Julee Cruise's "Floating Into The Night" What's your worst personal habit? Being inhibited. What's your favorite food? Vegan chocolate cake. Do you believe in putting subliminals in your music? No, I'm not clever enough. Are you scared of death? No, no, no, no. Do you have any political affiliations/strong views you wish to air? Question rendered illegible from spilled soya milk. Do you think taking drugs improves creativity(would you have heart surgery from a doctor on PCP)? They can impair and improve creativity, and the last thing I would want is a creatively dusted heart surgeon. Which of the ten commandments would you never break? I think I've broken all of them, sadly. Are you ready to rock? Certainly. Who or what is your first love? Music and God. What do you see when you look in the mirror? An ageing face. Have you any shame? Yes, unfortunately. Do you ever disgust yourself? Most of the time (see answer three). Are jokers more interesting than winners? Yes, usually. Did Jesus really die on the cross? More likely he died nailed to a tree. Who were the most influential bands ever? David Bowie, Kraftwekr, Donna Summer, Stooges, etc. Do you belive in the judgement day? I do not know. Who was the greatest American president and why? Thomas Jefferson, because he was smart and balanced. What was the last book you read? "Rama Revealed" by Arthur C. Clarke. Last but not least...quotes that came w/ the interview: "Rave music is both political and hedonistic. I'm attracted because I like the music and I'm into the counter-culture side of it." "If I can go everywhere by public transport, it's better for my frame of mind. The motorcar has been responsible for most of this century's social ills." "LA is as violent as New York but, in New York, the violence and poverty is all around you - you can't escape them. Here it's brushed away. LA is sick, and that sickness is endemic to American culture." Hope you all enjoyed :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: (mobility) Spice Girls Date: 19 Mar 1997 01:55:36 -0600 (CST) > Well..it's not really a sitcom..but I'd LOVE to see Moby on SNL(as a > music guest of course) for two reasons: #1 See Moby somewhat live...#2 > Be MUCH MUCH better then seeing those damn Spice Girls(which if you > haven't heard..are rumored to be on SNL soon ) It gets worse. Rumor has it (that is, MTV has it) that the Spice Girls are going to be in a movie. Not just in it, starring in it. Supposedly it will be done very late this year, will include a soundtrack chock full of their little bubble-gum-meets-KY-jelly songs, and will no doubt contain them lip syncing badly while wearing tight outfits. I smell a hit, folks...buy your tickets now, before they run out! Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 19 Mar 1997 12:17:34 +0200 (EET) i was wondering when that Saint soundtrack will release? +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Moby will produce Guns'n Roses Date: 19 Mar 1997 12:32:18 +0200 (EET) i just readed that in some message on alt.music.moby and there readed that Moby is thinking to produce it. it also said that more info about it will found on http://rocknews.com i haven't got any time to check it yet. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby will produce Guns'n Roses Date: 19 Mar 1997 06:39:22 -0800 This is a rumor.. my friends have forwarded me a story about some guy who met moby on a plane and saying that moby is producing the new GNR album.. i took as just that.. a rumor and not worth the time of the mailing list. -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Cameo Date: 19 Mar 1997 15:03:39 -0500 (EST) hey guess what guys.. MOBY is going to be at buzzfest 97" in Richmond Va.... im going...hopefully ill meet him... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) CNotes Moby Promotion Date: 19 Mar 1997 14:31:24 -0700 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > > I hate to do this to the list..but since a certain someone won't listen > to me in private email..maybe that same person will pay attention to me > on the list...Samu..PLEASE stop overquoting! Maybe with my message(and > my overquoting)...you'll realize how annoying it is. LOL! I've tried dropping hints and suggestions about this problem but nothing seems to work on my end. Let's hope this does. Cheers! -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on Rolling Stone Date: 19 Mar 1997 16:45:54 -0500 (EST) hey..i just went to my local library here and i found a little article in last month's Rolling Stone with Moby, dealing with the AR promo party thing..it said that Don Hill's was in NYC..i believe it was in Chicago, or is there another Don Hill's in NYC....it confused me much. he posed in the picture with David Bowie......nye. L.E... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "circling overland" <5ROCHER@stu.jmls.edu> Subject: (mobility) Re: 120 minutes/alcohol thereof Date: 19 Mar 1997 11:22:05 CST I missed everything that anyone might have said about Moby being on 120 minutes (MTV) a few weeks back, but here's what I have to say. It made me somewhat happy in a way when Moby said he drinks ocassionally. I personally abstained from drinking beer (i.e. did not have a sip of beer until November of 1996), and I just turned 25. The only alcohol I ever drank was maybe half a glass of wine at a wedding reception once a year or so. In other words, I didn't drink. But I kinda started casual social drinking at the above date, and I can even remember thinking that I was not "like Moby" anymore, because I started drinking. But anyway, I feel better now. Moderation... moderation. RRR || "sketch a little keyhole for looking glass people" || 5rocher@stu.jmls.edu delobbo101@aol.com || P|depeche_MODE.moby.megadeth.U2.cure.nitzer_ebb.erasure.|\|||/|.242 || D|ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys.marilyn_manson.alice_in_chains ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "circling overland" <5ROCHER@stu.jmls.edu> Subject: (mobility) Re: reviews Date: 19 Mar 1997 11:16:39 CST I hate reviews of ANY kind and the only reason I read them ocassionally is to get kicks and/or laughs out of them. Who are THEY to judge and what good would it do me to listen to what THEY have to say about it in regards to MY personal interpretations? Now, granted, I realize that the benefit may be that you can try to get a minimal grasp to what the record or whatever sounds LIKE, but that's as far as their helpfulness goes. And all these damn magazines nowadays are hung up on reviewers who use stupid cliches and supposedly innovative but albeit artificial words (but then again am I far behind in this review of reviews?? Hypocrisy is very difficult to avoid sometimes...) I mean, I like using interesting and innovative/unusual words (at least in my opinion) as well, but you don't see me doing reviews for magazines now, do you. I could never write for a magazine, because I would only want to review something if I could do it completely subjectively, and that would be hard for me to do, because if I came across something which was I even remotely disliked, who am I to judge it? Those with biased opinions should not be allowed to do reviews.... But I guess we'll never know if they are biased or not... What I would rather do and do do is go to record stores which let you listen to cd's before you buy them (Borders, Tower, etc.) and make my decision there. But I'm not you. RRR || "sketch a little keyhole for looking glass people" || 5rocher@stu.jmls.edu delobbo101@aol.com || P|depeche_MODE.moby.megadeth.U2.cure.nitzer_ebb.erasure.|\|||/|.242 || D|ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys.marilyn_manson.alice_in_chains ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: 120 minutes/alcohol thereof Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:11:51 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-19 21:10:31 EST, you write: > ar or so. In other words, I didn't drink. > But I kinda started casual social drinking at the above date, and I > can even remember thinking that I was not "like Moby" anymore, > because I started drinking. But anyway, I feel better now. ok, again, MOBY really isnt god, nor is he perfect.. if i was him i dont think i would want people thinking of me as such...even though he has some good points... i think my posts are a bit too short... the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) spring heel jack Date: 20 Mar 1997 02:53:58 -0800 > if moby was to make a guest appearance on a tv > sitcom, which sitcom would it be, and what would > his roll be? I could see him as a repeat caller on Frasier. Perhaps someone with an identity crisis ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) spring heel jack Date: 20 Mar 1997 02:53:58 -0800 > if moby was to make a guest appearance on a tv > sitcom, which sitcom would it be, and what would > his roll be? I could see him as a repeat caller on Frasier. Perhaps someone with an identity crisis ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 20 Mar 1997 02:48:15 -0800 > I also think it's strange how Elektra has been timing things. Elektra > (I guess I should say SubPop) released Revolver as a 7" and three weeks > later the album Animal Rights. Then they are supposedly releasing an I hadn't heard of a new Revolver single-I guess this would be different than the two out already? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby will produce Guns'n Roses Date: 20 Mar 1997 03:09:36 -0800 > i just readed that in some message on alt.music.moby and there readed that > Moby is thinking to produce it. it also said that more info about it will > found on http://rocknews.com I understand that he was offered the project (from a recent US mag-don't remember which one)-but he's declined it... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Cameo Date: 20 Mar 1997 10:12:34 -0500 MO>hey guess what guys.. MOBY is going to be at buzzfest 97" in Richmond MO>Va.... MO>im going...hopefully ill meet him... To anyone who's going to see..or has seen Moby live..YOU ALL SUCK!!! ;P With the ability to count the number of concerts he's been to on one hand, Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 20 Mar 1997 22:42:15 -0700 I got the new Revolver 12" today. Full details are in the discography, but here is a track listing: moby's mix psychotic VE-GUN mix edit-vocal dub moby's mix 1-edit the rollo & sister bliss vocal mix The Moby mix is pretty good, but it feels like a re-run... It's kind of like Bring Back My Happiness (Voodoo Child Mix) with Revolver chords instead of BBMH. "moby's mix 1-edit" is an edited version of "moby's mix". Track 2, remixed by Philip Steir, is reminiscent of Come On Baby (Crystal Method Mix), because it's basically a bunch of vocal samples pasted on a somewhat mediocre musical background. I got my 12" from CDnow for $6.79 plus shipping. I think a CD is also available, but it's hard to tell at this point. I ordered something from CD Connection that appears to be a new Revolver CD, but it may take a week or two to arrive. Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/2307/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:54:56 -0500 (EST) i've placed my order for the TWIRFMR remixes but i'm a bit hesitant on whether to get the $8.79 cd version of it..only because i don't want to get the same mixes on both and waste my money...hope it's good...anyone know when flea is gonna put his 2 cents in the remixes? l.e. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 21 Mar 1997 21:07:07 -0800 Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: i've placed my order for the TWIRFMR remixes but i'm a bit hesitant on whether to get the $8.79 cd version of it..only because i don't want to get the same mixes on both and waste my money...hope it's good...anyone know when flea is gonna put his 2 cents in the remixes? l.e. i would get it if it won't stretch your budget. i'm trying to build my collection. is this the remixes coming out march 18th? k.s. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Singles Date: 22 Mar 1997 17:35:23 +0200 (EET) i am wondering is anyone would like to get me some u.s Moby singles like Bring Back My Happiness and new That's when i reach for my revolver to me. i could pay good price of them. thanx +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 22 Mar 1997 11:01:38 -0500 (EST) yeah..these are the remixes that was due March 18.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mungus Subject: (mobility) Hi my name is..... Date: 23 Mar 1997 10:20:10 -0800 Hi, My name is James , I am 16 and live in the U.K. I have been collecting Mobys' recordings for a couple of years after I saw him at Greenbelt (A british Christian festival). Moby preformed an impressive set, Hymn caused the whole field to go silent with awe. My favourite tracks are "Feeling so real." and "Go" Unfourtunatly it is hard to get hold of alot of the Moby (+ psyudonyms) material as it is on an american label. I have got: Ambiant The Story so Far Everything is Wrong Everything is Wrong -remix album Rare: The collected B-Sides I also have hold of a (rare ?) mix he did for a british magazine called mix-mag. This is a 30-minute mix of his and other artists work. It is excellent! se ya soon! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 23 Mar 1997 07:36:32 -0800 just bought the vinyl. now i have to find a turntable that works.does anybody know why the ECD(?) only plays three songs on my pc.where's the video? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 23 Mar 1997 13:33:42 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-23 13:32:19 EST, you write: > does > anybody know why the ECD(?) only plays three songs on my pc.where's the > video? check for the file MOBY.exe on the CD with File Manager (win 3.1) or Explorer (win95)... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Moby - 2 live dates Date: 24 Mar 1997 10:23:06 -0500 DE>Moby will be doing a couple of gigs for US radio stations in the next few we DE>March 29 The End Seattle DE>April 20 EDGE, Dallas DE>Unfortunately that's all the info we have - if you live in these areas DE>check local radio/press for further details. DE>----------------------------- DE>Moby's new album, ANIMAL RIGHTS, is out in the US now (different DE>tracklisting from UK release) DE>----------------------------- 8 hour drive/1 hour flight(from Seattle)...and I can't go Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Tucker Subject: (mobility) Turntables for sale, + Moby Date: 24 Mar 1997 14:55:27 -0700 I am selling two Gemini Turntables XL-DD50II Mint condition. Warranty still good for 1 1/2 years. Specifications Direct Drive Full Manial Turntable Brushless DC Motor 33 1/3 rpm and 45 rpm Less than .15% WRMS 12.17 /309mm diamer platter Statically balance s-shap tonearm Power supply 110V/ 220V 60Hz/ 50Hz Power consumption 15 W Dimension 450(W)x352(H)x152(D)mm New weight 22lbs Dust cover with removeable hinges 45 Adaptor Spindle Slip mats Lamp Xlr Lamp Adapter Pitch Control etc... Any other questions, please email Taking best deal for both. I have a Gemini DJ coffin that I could through in if price is reasonable. Origianl price of turntables was $325 each. DJ coffin was $130. Offer is limited to those living in the United States. I will pay S/H. Moby package of vinyl items available to purchaser. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 18 Mar 1997 19:39:24 -0500 (EST) ...the song sounds neat...a bit generic tho...very *underworld* (not that underworld sounds generic, dont get me wrong)...not exactly what i expected out of moby has anyone heard the entire song?...does it change any? thx ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 11:28:53 -0500 (EST) is anyone else out there getting a HUGE delay between when they send messages and when they actually arrive back to you in MOBILITY form?...i just had a week in between--i actually forgot what i wrote till i got it back the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 10:39:50 -0600 (CST) i have had the delay problem as well. sometimes it is a long time, and sometimes it is a few seconds, kinda strange.... andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 13:23:46 -0500 (EST) At 11:28 AM 3/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >is anyone else out there getting a HUGE delay between when they send messages >and when they actually arrive back to you in MOBILITY form?...i just had a >week in between--i actually forgot what i wrote till i got it back i had this about a week ago. actually a few of my messages had gotten lost then too. this list has slowed down tremendously, maybe something is awry? love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) Delayed message delivery (Was -- Re: The Saint) Date: 25 Mar 1997 11:50:32 -0700 I am writing because of the concerns expressed about the lists operations and the recent inconsistency between message delivery times. I don't have a real explanation but I do know my current ISP that the mailing list resides on has been doing major upgrades over the past week or two. They have upgraded the mailing list program along with the mail servers, modems, connections lines, and have even moved to a different location. This might explain some of the problems with the delayed messages and such. I know that they are still working on how messages are being delivered which is very important to the list. Hopefully this is a temporary problem that will be fixed within the next week. If it continues, please point it out to me personally because I might miss it. Thanks. ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/dedicatn.html ** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike S Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:11:33 -0800 MOBYchild@aol.com wrote: > > ...the song sounds neat...a bit generic tho...very *underworld* (not that > underworld sounds generic, dont get me wrong)...not exactly what i expected > out of moby > > has anyone heard the entire song?...does it change any? > > thx > ~L~ I heard it last night, and it's pretty much the same throughout the song. I was surprised that it was a new techno song after ARk, but I liked the song as well as the whole album, a definate pick-up if you get the chance. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Turntables for sale, + Moby Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:27:10 -0500 (EST) hey can i buy both of your tables for 200 dollars?? im really interested in turntable.s:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Moby spotting... Date: 25 Mar 1997 18:05:28 -0500 Also known as Voodoo Child, Moby is a musician notorious for producing wildly diverse styles of music, from his early dance music to his recent guitar rock. Because of this stylistic independence and genre-bending risktaking he is highly respected though controversial. Moby became famous in the early 1990s with a number of worldwide techno hits, and for creating dazzling remixes for other artists such as The Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica and Soundgarden. Lately, his focus has shifted to heavy guitar music. A punk rockin', crowd moving, quasi-Christian vegan animal rights activist, Moby simply defies classification. Moby's long awaited second Elektra album Animal Rights, released to critical acclaim on February 11, has already had a significant impact in Europe. Above taken from "The Saint" soundtrack website on Virgin Records..heard the song as well...pretty intrigued by it...Now that I've had a taste..I want more ;>...Only thing that I REALLY disagree with on the above paragraph is them claiming AR was released to critical acclaim...Sorry..but have I been living on another world??? Every review I've seen, the reviewer slams Moby for changing genres..giving a lackluster performance..and/or he should have stuck w/ "techno". Doesn't seem like "critical acclaim" to me . Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm P.S. If you haven't already..at least check out the website(www.virginrecords.com) to see the cool metallic moby jpg ;> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:03:29 -0700 Mike S wrote: > > > has anyone heard the entire song?...does it change any? > > > I heard it last night, and it's pretty much the same throughout the > song. I was surprised that it was a new techno song after ARk, but I > liked the song as well as the whole album, a definate pick-up if you get > the chance. I haven't heard the entire song, just the sample on The Saint web page. It does sound dated and I'm surprised Moby has decided to release it, especially under his own name. We all know that "Oil 1" was recorded in the second half of 96 because that's when the information showed up in Daniel Discography (http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/info/mobydisc.txt). OIL 1 / OIL 2 [Julie Sorrenti, unreleased] UK CD, Trophy, CDTrophy6 NOTE: Exact track listing is uncertain. 1 _:__ Oil 1 2 _:__ Oil 2 Daniel, can you tell us what month it was that you found out about this song??? I'm curious as to how dated it really is. It's also strange that Moby didn't release one of his own mixes from the "Revolver" single that was techno-ish that would have fit in with the soundtrack while still promoting his new material. Hmmm... Thoughts anyone? -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby spotting... Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:19:52 -0700 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > P.S. If you haven't already..at least check out the > website(www.virginrecords.com) to see the cool metallic moby jpg ;> I will, especially since they based their summary of Moby on what I wrote for my Moby page (http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/). Daniel Cerman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:43:15 -0700 Damian@xmission.com wrote: > Daniel, can you tell us what month it was that you found out about this > song??? I'm curious as to how dated it really is. It's also strange > that Moby didn't release one of his own mixes from the "Revolver" single > that was techno-ish that would have fit in with the soundtrack while > still promoting his new material. Hmmm... I found out about Trophy6 (Oil 1/Oil 2) and Trophy7 (Song Life/Tema Electronica) sometime between mid-July and early August of last year. It must have been planned before then, so Moby couldn't have made it later than the Spring of 1996. The singles will probably come out this summer. Talk about a one-year-plus waiting period for Moby songs to be released! And a lot of good ones are never released. The reason for the delay? Mute needs to fit Moby's stuff in with all their other releases, so his stuff has to wait its turn in line. I believe that if Moby were still on Instinct or another smaller label, there would be less turnaround time. Daniel Cerman Maintainer of the Moby discography http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 20:06:11 -0700 Daniel Cerman wrote: > > I found out about Trophy6 (Oil 1/Oil 2) and Trophy7 (Song Life/Tema > Electronica) sometime between mid-July and early August of last year. > It must have been planned before then, so Moby couldn't have made it > later than the Spring of 1996. The singles will probably come out > this summer. Wow, no wonder why the song sounds a bit dated. I'm starting to think that Moby is going to skip releasing Oil 1 & 2 as a single. If he goes through with releasing it that'll mean he's gonna scrap the alias of Julie Sorrenti, right? This would also raise the question of how the single will released, under Trophy6 as planned or under Mute? Should be interesting. > Talk about a one-year-plus waiting period for Moby > songs to be released! And a lot of good ones are never released. > The reason for the delay? Mute needs to fit Moby's stuff in with > all their other releases, so his stuff has to wait its turn in line. > I believe that if Moby were still on Instinct or another smaller > label, there would be less turnaround time. Good point, I never thought about that. I still _love_ Mute though. -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 20:18:52 -0700 Damian@xmission.com wrote: > Wow, no wonder why the song sounds a bit dated. I'm starting to think > that Moby is going to skip releasing Oil 1 & 2 as a single. If he goes > through with releasing it that'll mean he's gonna scrap the alias of > Julie Sorrenti, right? This would also raise the question of how the > single will released, under Trophy6 as planned or under Mute? Should be > interesting. The same things occurred to me, and at this point there are no answers. We'll just have to see how this plays out. I'm quite sure that if "Oil 1 / Oil 2" comes out as a single (as originally intended), it will be on Trophy Records, not Mute. To be on Mute would be to make it a major release that they would have to work hard to promote, whereas they can spit out Trophy releases without saying a word or worrying about them not being profitable. > > I believe that if Moby were still on Instinct or another smaller > > label, there would be less turnaround time. > > Good point, I never thought about that. I still _love_ Mute though. Me too! Mute has given Moby some freedoms and distribution advantages that I guess he didn't have with Instinct. Mute released "Hymn"! I'm afraid that Elektra doesn't deserve the same praise, however. Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/2307/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 25 Mar 1997 22:50:54 -0500 MO>song??? I'm curious as to how dated it really is. It's also strange MO>that Moby didn't release one of his own mixes from the "Revolver" single MO>that was techno-ish that would have fit in with the soundtrack while MO>still promoting his new material. Hmmm... MO>Thoughts anyone? MO>** damian@xmission.com >Anyways...ummm..maybe he wasn't given enough time to do what he thought would be a good remix of "Revolver" to put on the soundtrack....or...maybe the soundtrack has been in the process since last year?!?! only Moby knows :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 26 Mar 1997 08:44:35 +0200 (EET) if i am right. Moby really had computer and modem. i am not sure about modem, but at least he had mac. but he wont go to online, because he dont have enough time to internet.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby spotting... Date: 26 Mar 1997 08:58:25 +0200 (EET) Moby had got good reviews from critics in Finland. Like on finnish magazine called "soundi": totalic experience (he got 4of5) . and they really liked when Moby changed his style to rock. Also he had got good review on "suosikki" and it he got 4 of 5. and they said: this really works. thanx Moby. i haven't seen any other reviews on Finnish mags.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: (mobility) oil 1 Date: 26 Mar 1997 09:57:04 -0600 (CST) well, i finally heard oil 1 yesterday. we got the CD in at the station i dj at. it's a great soundtrack! i think oil 1 is the best thing i've heard from moby since EIW. it has an older feel, yes, but isn't that what we all want? i love it! nice and up tempo and happy sounding. true, it doesn't evolve much, but why should it? i want moby to go back to doing this kind of music!!!! -xaq- zbentz@d.umn.edu the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." < - m o b y - > "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L Potter" Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 26 Mar 1997 10:55:43 +0000 the beat for oil1 on the soundtrack sounds like bring back my happiness kinda... also, that version of atom bomb by fluke is the version they play with the video... and does anybody know what happened with amp? have they been postponing it cause of the spring break stuff? one more totally unrelated moby thing... but if you want a good rave compilation, check out "audio ravers"... i got it at media play for $13... a double cd! lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: suspire@juno.com Subject: (mobility) Instinct Compliation for Sale Date: 26 Mar 1997 12:56:30 EST For Sale: "INSTINCT DANCE " EX-236CD 1991 Instinct Records It is listed a having 12" tracks from "Baracuda", "Moby", "Brainstorm" and "Voodoo Child". Which we all know is Moby doing his "I have 1000 +1 names" thing. I'm selling it for $8 +$2 shipping. If you are interested pleas email me privetly. -Jhaysin susprie@juno.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anika@Info.LiU.SE (Johan Jaatinen) Subject: Re: (mobility) 120 minutes/alcohol thereof Date: 26 Mar 1997 22:18:34 -0400 >> ar or so. In other words, I didn't drink. >> But I kinda started casual social drinking at the above date, and I >> can even remember thinking that I was not "like Moby" anymore, >> because I started drinking. But anyway, I feel better now. > >ok, again, MOBY really isnt god, nor is he perfect.. >if i was him i dont think i would want people thinking of me as such...even >though he has some good points... I think the idea of having a near-perfect person to look up to is not such a bad idea...though of course it's nice to see that Moby doesn't claim to be perfect himself, either. >i think my posts are a bit too short... No, I think being able to express yourself in few words is a very good thing= ! Cheers, Johan. ,,, /'~'\ ( 0 0 ) +----------------------------oOOO--(_)--OOOo----------------------------+ Johan Jaatinen Intelligent dance musician Anika@Info.LiU.SE Oooo. Radio DJ MU WILL RISE AGAIN .oooO ( ) Vegetarian +-----------------------------( )----) /------------------------------+ \ ( (_/ \_) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeclark@interlog.com (Joe Clark) Subject: (mobility) Re: reviews Date: 26 Mar 1997 17:48:24 -0500 >Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:16:39 CST >From: "circling overland" <5ROCHER@stu.jmls.edu> >Subject: (mobility) Re: reviews > >I hate reviews of ANY kind and the only reason I read them >ocassionally is to get kicks and/or laughs out of them. Who are THEY >to judge and what good would it do me to listen to what THEY have to >say about it in regards to MY personal interpretations? It's a chicken-and-egg (chickensubstitute-and-eggsubstitute) problem to some extent. If you're new to a genre or to the study of a medium (like film), reading reviews can open your eyes to subtexts and details and nuances that you simply never would have known were there. Admittedly this is ridiculously difficult in music reviews ("writing about music is like dancing about architecture," etc.), but it can be done. I am not personally a fan of _Stolling Rh=F4ne_ reviews, though the ones in _Spin_ are often quite good. If you can stomach the _Village Voice_ (anyone other than the unintelligible Christgau), you can also learn there. Joe Clark joeclark@interlog.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeclark@interlog.com (Joe Clark) Subject: (mobility) Moby article online Date: 26 Mar 1997 17:48:36 -0500 I met Moby the last time he was in town and wrote a story about it for the local queer rag. It and another story are online at my massive Web site at: Joe Clark joeclark@interlog.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 26 Mar 1997 21:14:22 -0700 Finally! I have the Revolver 12" in my hands and what a delight it has been listening to it. Is there anything spectacular on this? Mmm, no. But it's all extremely enjoyable! Now where's the CD5 that we've all been promised? I want more! -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ravi Baskaran Subject: (mobility) Moby + Axl Date: 26 Mar 1997 23:24:41 -0500 (EST) A friend has been forwarding stuff to me regarding this from the Chem Bros list and one said that Moby talked about this at a SXSW music conference and said that GnR were doing the best blend or rock and "electronica" out there. There was also a rumor of doing something with Aerosmith. Question: Which would be a better buy - the US CD of TWIRFMR with the remixes or the UK one with the Rollo and Sister Bliss Mix and the b-sides? Ravi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolver remixes Date: 26 Mar 1997 21:23:32 -0700 Damian@xmission.com wrote: > Now where's the CD5 that we've all been promised? I want more! I haven't had any luck finding or obtaining the CD. I don't even know for sure that it exists! Don't know who promised it either, but I would really like it since my parents' record player has really poor quality, especially when it comes to today's wide frequency range recordings. Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gfunk1138@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 26 Mar 1997 23:33:07 -0500 (EST) >and does anybody know what >happened with amp? have they been postponing it cause of the spring >break stuff? ok supposedly amp is going to be on in 2 weeks, at least thats what my TV guide thing said, unfortuantley the fact that it updates every 3 weeks brings about something disconcerting. oh well. i dont thin they have been postponing it due to the spring break thing, but then again i havent watched MTV for a week or two... justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 26 Mar 1997 23:52:55 -0800 > one more totally unrelated moby thing... but if you want a good rave > compilation, check out "audio ravers"... i got it at media play for > $13... a double cd! What's the tracklisting? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby + Axl Date: 27 Mar 1997 00:00:37 -0800 > Question: Which would be a better buy - the US CD of TWIRFMR with the > remixes or the UK one with the Rollo and Sister Bliss Mix and the b-sides? I haven't heard the US remixes (the new ones)-but I've had the Rollo & Sister Bliss mix cd for a while and it's possibly my *favorite* moby disc. Every One Of My Problems & Dark are two of his best tracks-and the Revolver remix is fucking *BRILLIANT*. Then again-I'll probably love the other single too.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby + Axl Date: 27 Mar 1997 00:00:37 -0800 > Question: Which would be a better buy - the US CD of TWIRFMR with the > remixes or the UK one with the Rollo and Sister Bliss Mix and the b-sides? I haven't heard the US remixes (the new ones)-but I've had the Rollo & Sister Bliss mix cd for a while and it's possibly my *favorite* moby disc. Every One Of My Problems & Dark are two of his best tracks-and the Revolver remix is fucking *BRILLIANT*. Then again-I'll probably love the other single too.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby + Axl Date: 27 Mar 1997 00:31:54 -0500 (EST) At 11:24 PM 3/26/97 -0500, you wrote: >A friend has been forwarding stuff to me regarding this from the Chem Bros >list and one said that Moby talked about this at a SXSW music conference and >said that GnR were doing the best blend or rock and "electronica" out there. >There was also a rumor of doing something with Aerosmith. has this moby producing GNR story been confirmed, or is it still a rumor? last i heard he was just offered the job, but never replied to do it or not. >Question: Which would be a better buy - the US CD of TWIRFMR with the >remixes or the UK one with the Rollo and Sister Bliss Mix and the b-sides? i haven't heard the u.s. mixes, but the live tracks on the import can't be beat. i'd go with the import. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: (mobility) oops... Date: 27 Mar 1997 00:34:09 -0500 (EST) disregard my last message. i got the come on baby and revolver singles mixed up. i'm an ass. but i would STILL go with the import because the BSIDES on the revolver single(s) are some of the better b-sides i've heard anywhere. "everyone of my problems" is one of my favorite new songs by moby i've heard. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L Potter" Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 27 Mar 1997 01:42:57 +0000 > > one more totally unrelated moby thing... but if you want a good rave > > compilation, check out "audio ravers"... i got it at media play for > > $13... a double cd! > > What's the tracklisting? > disc 1... (artist/title) static / energize spinhead / feel the rhythm drummatik / classic rave powerstation / fatal intentions cybervision / deception virtual society / got u groovin rave nation / voice of the monastery audio experiment / scratch 2 the maximum galactica / skyride dreamscape / out of time cellblock x / house of paint mayflyer / mayflyer anthem disc 2 scream of spirit / dreaming of you mach / i am the creator q-beat / the mood cybersized illusion / soulsearcher disco-bob / the experience ken noice / do you feel the power hardcop / mindblower yonaas / r-j-k s.i.r.e.n. / danger reactor / the street resonanz / symphony of techno this is one of the few compilations where i've liked EVERY song on it... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: (mobility) MP3 Date: 27 Mar 1997 11:02:41 +0000 People,if you want to hear LOADS of Moby tunes, go to this address.I just found it today : http://tillbm.stu.rpi.edu/mp3/mp3search.html You'll have to get an MP3 player. You can get one of them at : http://www.mpeg.org/ Have fun, I know I will !!! Col. "Lightning strikes,The court lights dim, Supreme competition is about to begin, Above the rim. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: (mobility) Oops!! Date: 27 Mar 1997 11:04:51 +0000 Sorry, in my haste I forgot to mention that you just type in MOBY and you'll get all these Moby tunes. Col. "Lightning strikes,The court lights dim, Supreme competition is about to begin, Above the rim. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) MP3 Date: 27 Mar 1997 06:30:43 -0700 Col wrote: > People,if you want to hear LOADS of Moby tunes, go to this address.I just > found it today : > > http://tillbm.stu.rpi.edu/mp3/mp3search.html Wow, that's amazing! I had no idea that there are so many Moby sound files out there. Unfortunately, my computer is too old & slow to play MP3s. Are these the full songs or just excerpts? Thanks for sharing this site with us, Col! :) Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/2307/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: Re: (mobility) MP3 Date: 27 Mar 1997 13:52:41 +0000 As far as I know they are full length,i haven't been able to access any of them yet,i'm going to try them now and i'll tell you later if they are full length or not. I'll keep you posted. Col. At 06:30 AM 3/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >Col wrote: >> People,if you want to hear LOADS of Moby tunes, go to this address.I just >> found it today : >> >> http://tillbm.stu.rpi.edu/mp3/mp3search.html > >Wow, that's amazing! I had no idea that there are so many Moby sound >files out there. Unfortunately, my computer is too old & slow to play >MP3s. Are these the full songs or just excerpts? Thanks for sharing >this site with us, Col! :) > >Daniel Cerman >http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ >http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/2307/ > > "Lightning strikes,The court lights dim, Supreme competition is about to begin, Above the rim. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: (mobility) MP3 Date: 27 Mar 1997 14:19:41 +0000 Ok, I just downloaded Thousand and it's the full song.the only problem with these sites are that they are really slow and only take 15-20 users at a time.Still,I'm hoping that all the sites have the full lenth songs. REMEMBER !! If you are trying to download any of these tunes that you have to click on the RIGHT mouse button and take the "save link as..." option and download it into your account.Also,it's apparently illegal to download these songs,but what the hell,who cares? Can't wait to get into some of these other sites.This one that has Thousand on it has loads of other great tunes, Front 242,Underworld, Fluke, Prodigy, Carl Cox,Laurent Garnier,Scooter.Rave on! Col. "Lightning strikes,The court lights dim, Supreme competition is about to begin, Above the rim. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Come on baby video Date: 27 Mar 1997 09:07:17 -0800 (PST) i just saw come on baby video. it was excellent. Moby breaks several things on it. it is punk,powerful and very good. has anyone other saw it yet? +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Col Subject: Re: (mobility) Come on baby video Date: 27 Mar 1997 14:48:05 +0000 That has been out for ages.isn't that the one where he is jumping around with no top on? Col. At 09:07 AM 3/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >i just saw come on baby video. it was excellent. Moby breaks several things >on it. it is punk,powerful and very good. has anyone other saw it yet? "Lightning strikes,The court lights dim, Supreme competition is about to begin, Above the rim. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 27 Mar 1997 09:51:35 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-27 03:13:05 EST, you write: > > > one more totally unrelated moby thing... but if you want a good rave > > compilation, check out "audio ravers"... i got it at media play for > > $13... a double cd! > i cant get rid of the thing...noone wants to buy it...its humorous--all that cheezy techno and crappy sounds...i wouldnt reccomend that to my worst enemy (well, i actually did reccomend it--but he wouldnt buy it from me anyway.) there is a reason for a double cd being so cheap... the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby in IE Date: 27 Mar 1997 09:54:56 -0500 (EST) moby is featured in the April issue of Illinois Entertainer (a monthly magazine). its an interesting article--it tells more about him then his new album i'll type it up later, its pretty long... the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L Potter" Subject: Re: (mobility) The Saint Date: 27 Mar 1997 10:59:00 +0000 there's nothing wrong with the "audio ravers" cd... it's better than a lot of other ones i've bought... but so far i've found the best comps to be from ZYX, smile, and moonshine... lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Come on baby video Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:19:04 -0500 (EST) should this come on baby video be playing on MTV at all in the U.S.? or is it one of those underground things? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Moby update Date: 27 Mar 1997 13:53:32 -0500 The follow is for the people who may not be on the Moby update ML(from def@mail.bogo.co.uk)... DE>Moby has met with Axl Rose and the rest of Guns 'n' Roses for discussions DE>about the possibility of producing the next Guns 'n' Roses album. "At the DE>risk of sounding like a a sleazy music biz guy, I met with Axl last week to DE>hear their new demos," says Moby. "They're working with a lot of loops, and DE>beleive it or not they're doing it better than anybody I've heard lately." DE>He will meet with the band again next week; nothing has been confirmed and DE>no deal has been struck yet. DE>He's writing & composing the score for Double Tap, the next movie by DE>producer Joel Silver (Die Hard, Basic Instinct etc). DE>He's been asked to do an electronic dance version of John Barry's original DE>James Bond theme for the next Bond movie. DE>He has a track - Oil 1 - on the soundtrack of The Saint. DE>He's recently completed remixes for David Bowie ("Dead Man Walking"), Blur DE>("Beetlebum"), Aerosmith ("Falling In Love Is Hard On The Knees") and John DE>Lydon. DE>He's been asked to contribute a track to a forthcoming Clash tribute album DE>being put together by John Doe of the band X DE>The Voodoo Child album "The End Of Everything" will be released in the US DE>in the next few months. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) (idm) AMP Date: 27 Mar 1997 13:53:40 -0500 AD>Alternative Nation and Top 20 Video Countdown have been cancelled, and AMP AD>moves into prime time, now Fridays at 9pm. This week, Front 242- AD>Happiness, Kraftvelt- Derranged in Space, EBN- 3:7:8, Billy Sago- Dil AD>Cheez, Massive Attack- Sly, Chico Science- Maracatu Atomico, Aphex Twin- AD>Ventolin (much of which was filmed on my roof), Autechre- Second Bad Vibel, AD>Orbital- Are We Here, Way Out West- The Gift. This is for all the people who were curious if Amp was going to return..looks like it's going to be another good show :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm(and for curious people..pictures up at photo.htm :) ) AD>______________________________________ AD>Adam Shore AD>Wax Trax!/TVT Records, Blunt Recordings AD>23 East 4th Street, 3rd Floor AD>New York, NY 10003 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby update Date: 27 Mar 1997 16:16:35 -0500 (EST) >DE>The Voodoo Child album "The End Of Everything" will be released in the US >DE>in the next few months. anybody know if this will have the same track listing or not? is it going to be on elektra then? love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:48:54 -0500 I had a thought about the song (while listening to Early Underground)...is it sooooo bad that he may be releasing something that might be a little dated??? It's for this reason I never sell my cd's..In time..I return to old cd's and listen to em...Also..the release of this song may make those fans unhappy with AR happy again :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Come on baby video Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:48:52 -0500 MO>should this come on baby video be playing on MTV at all in the U.S.? or is MO>it one of those underground things? I have a feeling it might be on the next 120 Min. or so...They've shown TWIRFMR the past two weeks...set your vcr's :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 20:32:45 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-27 20:10:58 EST, you write: << cd's..In time..I return to old cd's and listen to em...Also..the release of this song may make those fans unhappy with AR happy again :) >> ....OR...mabye its to make those who *just* heard of moby because of AR more exposed to his other styles and moods... just a thought ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 21:05:33 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > I had a thought about the song (while listening to Early > Underground)...is it sooooo bad that he may be releasing something that > might be a little dated??? It's for this reason I never sell my > cd's..In time..I return to old cd's and listen to em...Also..the > release of this song may make those fans unhappy with AR happy again :) actually, i think it's great! i'm not too keen on the new moby. i like the old moby much more. maybe the reason i like this song so much is because i'm just so happy to hear some good 'ol fashoned stompy moby! he is SO GOOD at making dance music...it baffles me as to why he is moving to punk. if he is so upset about the state of dance, why dosen't he DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! but no...he goes and hides in the punk room. humpf! -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 21:44:30 -0700 .xAQ_ wrote: > actually, i think it's great! i'm not too keen on the new moby. i like the > old moby much more. maybe the reason i like this song so much is because > i'm just so happy to hear some good 'ol fashoned stompy moby! he is SO > GOOD at making dance music...it baffles me as to why he is moving to > punk. if he is so upset about the state of dance, why dosen't he DO > SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! but no...he goes and hides in the punk room. humpf! Amen! You'd be amazed at what kind of good stuff Moby made that hasn't been released. Meanwhile he's screaming and playing punk and trying to get accepted by all the crappiest pop institutions, as they're stupidly deciding that they can make money by hyping techno-pop. It seems that Moby doesn't release real techno anymore. The stuff on Trophy is dry and minimal, lacking the real soul of Moby, but it's basically all we get. That, and a remix of Revolver that sounds like a wannabe BBMH (Voodoo Child Mix) which was a hybrid of Feeling So Real and the drums in ATINITBL (Speed Trance). So it seems that lately all the "techno" we've been hearing from Moby is either dry or repackaged. That's not like him. He's known for his inspired creativity and awesome music. I'm really sorry that he's so disillusioned with the music that he pioneered so wonderfully. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 21:01:01 -0800 .xAQ_ wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > I had a thought about the song (while listening to Early > Underground)...is it sooooo bad that he may be releasing something that > might be a little dated??? It's for this reason I never sell my > cd's..In time..I return to old cd's and listen to em...Also..the > release of this song may make those fans unhappy with AR happy again :) actually, i think it's great! i'm not too keen on the new moby. i like the old moby much more. maybe the reason i like this song so much is because i'm just so happy to hear some good 'ol fashoned stompy moby! he is SO GOOD at making dance music...it baffles me as to why he is moving to punk. if he is so upset about the state of dance, why dosen't he DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! but no...he goes and hides in the punk room. humpf! -xaq- i love moby doing a little bit off both. i think it depends on your space at the time and what mood you're in. i feel like listening to all different artists at different x and i've very happy with"animal rights" . i've just discovered moby by listening to my alt.station whereas i wouldn't have heard him before. few stations play techno here.i'm in love. kls ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 22:10:46 -0500 MO>actually, i think it's great! i'm not too keen on the new moby. i like the MO>old moby much more. maybe the reason i like this song so much is because MO>i'm just so happy to hear some good 'ol fashoned stompy moby! he is SO MO>GOOD at making dance music...it baffles me as to why he is moving to MO>punk. if he is so upset about the state of dance, why dosen't he DO MO>SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! but no...he goes and hides in the punk room. humpf! MO>-xaq- Maybe it's his way of sending the rave scene to it's room til it can play nicely? :) I'm actually torn between both sides....I'm hoping when he goes on tour(and hopefully he'll stop here)..the concert will be a mix of both..some songs off AR..and earlier stuff..We shall see soon enough :) Just curious..has anybody seen the rave scene Moby sees?? Do you agree?? From a closet raver(WANTING to come out), Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 22:10:50 -0500 MO>....OR...mabye its to make those who *just* heard of moby because of AR more MO>exposed to his other styles and moods... MO>just a thought MO>~L~ Maybe..but seeing how on the TWIRFMR remix single there are "techno" songs...If you can hear us Moby..why Oil 1?!?! :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Come on baby video Date: 27 Mar 1997 22:18:59 -0700 Col wrote: > > That has been out for ages.isn't that the one where he is jumping around > with no top on? I haven't seen it yet. How have you been so fortunate? Or have I missed something? Any more details to be shared? Thanks. SSS -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/dedicatn.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 27 Mar 1997 22:35:12 -0500 MO>Amen! You'd be amazed at what kind of good stuff Moby made that hasn't MO>been released. Meanwhile he's screaming and playing punk and trying to MO>get accepted by all the crappiest pop institutions, as they're stupidly MO>deciding that they can make money by hyping techno-pop. It seems that I still don't think he's trying to be accepted by everyone(trying to get his message out..yes/no/maybe?)...because the way I see it(and I could be wrong)..if he was..he would of stuck with "techno" considering it's the next BIG thing...and everyone is latching onto any group associated with it. MO>Moby doesn't release real techno anymore. The stuff on Trophy is dry MO>and minimal, lacking the real soul of Moby, but it's basically all we MO>get. That, and a remix of Revolver that sounds like a wannabe BBMH MO>(Voodoo Child Mix) which was a hybrid of Feeling So Real and the drums MO>in ATINITBL (Speed Trance). So it seems that lately all the "techno" Just curious..what cd/single/ep are those two songs(BBMH and ATIN) on..I can't find them in my collection MO>we've been hearing from Moby is either dry or repackaged. That's not MO>like him. He's known for his inspired creativity and awesome music. MO>I'm really sorry that he's so disillusioned with the music that he MO>pioneered so wonderfully. Maybe he has demons/issues to deal with..and once he has..he'll return to "techno"..All I can say is stick by him and hang on for the ride :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (mobility) MP3 Date: 27 Mar 1997 21:52:09 -0800 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC3AF9.293F1900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I only wish there were rare tracks out there in MP3 format. Maybe some of those bonus tracks from the Come on Baby double CD... :) Shaun -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 1997 5:31 AM Col wrote: > People,if you want to hear LOADS of Moby tunes, go to this address.I just > found it today : > > http://tillbm.stu.rpi.edu/mp3/mp3search.html Wow, that's amazing! I had no idea that there are so many Moby sound files out there. Unfortunately, my computer is too old & slow to play MP3s. Are these the full songs or just excerpts? 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Do you agree?? NO! I really hate the punk rock crowds and moshing. I'm sick of getting bruised every time I go out to see a great band (ie. Bad Religion). I went to a few Orbital concerts and it was pure heaven. If Moby could do a techno/dance show, I'm sure I wouldn't get kicked in the head as much as if he pulled out his guitar. 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Thanks... To everyone else, prices are somewhat flexable if ordering several items. S/H will be determined at time of purchase. Thanks... Various Full Length CDs featuring Moby Killer Techno (UHF by UHF), GO {Rainforest Mix} $7 MFTMP HEAT {New Dawn Fades and GMOTFOTW} $7 Hardcore Ecstasy GO {Rainforest Mix} $7 Best Of Techno Volume 1 {Voodoo Child by Voodoo Child} $7 Rave Anthems 2CD {GO} $15 The Postiva Ambient Collection - (Mobility) $7 Everything Is Wrong/Animal Rights- Limited Package Deal of Double Disc Sets $30 Voodoo Child ------------ 12NoMu32 Demons/Horses $8 Lopez ----- CDTrophy2 Why Can't It Stop? $8 Moby-Feeling So Real -------------------- 66180-2 Elektra (Still Sealed) $5 LCDMUTE173 $8 MUTE INT 826.644 $8 MUTE INT 126.643 (12MUTE173) $9 P12MUTE173/PL12MUTE173 Double Promo Pack 7 Remixes $18 Moby-Everytime You Touch Me --------------------------- 66154-2 Elecktra $5 CDMUTE176 $8 MUTE INT 826.652 $8 12MUTE176 $10 2 copies L12MUTE176 $15 (Moby Remix Competition) Moby-Into The Blue ------------------ P12MUTE179/PXLMUTE179 Double Promo from Mute 8 mixes/ Colored label matching sticker $40 email for details PXL12MUTE179 Promo from Mute 4 mixes/ Colored label matching sticker Titled "Junior Vasquez Mixes" $25 email for details $15 off for P12MUTE179 Set $50 Moby-Hymn --------- SABAM 2100955 {Belgium} $8 12MUTE161 $8 P12MUTE161 $8 PL12MUTE161 2 copies $8 L12MUTE161 $8 ED 5695 Promo of Hymn 4 mixes/ Beautiful sticker art $15 email for details Moby-CDROM ---------- DISC $7 Moby-Move --------- 9 61568-2 Elektra No sticker/2 copies $5 MUTE INT 826.764 $7 Moby-Go ------- GONOCAR1 $7 2 copies 12NOCAR1 $7 EX-237 CDS REMIXES $5 EX-237 LPS REMIXES Album sleeve is like that of CD release $7 (still sealed) EX-237 S $6 (still sealed sealed) FOOT 15-Moby Mixes GO $8 RTD 150.1441.0 16 The '92 Mixes(The Ulitmate Go) $8 2 copies Moby-Bring Back My Happiness ---------------------------- 66096-2 Elektra $6 ED5776 $6 3 copies 0-66096 Elektra $5 2 copies 1 still sealed Moby-Next Is The E ------------------ EX-247-2 $6 Moby-Drop A Beat ---------------- EX-240-1 $5 2 copies Moby-Mobility ------------- Moby classic featuring Mobility,Aqua Mix, Go, Time Signature (Still Sealed) EX-226 $12 CD Singles Moby Remixes ----------------------- Shamen-Make It Mine {Manhattan Mix, Moby's Dub Mix, Deep Mix} $8 Vinyl featuring Moby Remixes ---------------------------- The Shamen-Make It Mine {3 by Moby} $5 The Shamen-Make It Mine {3 by Moby + 4 remixes of Possible Worlds(not Moby)} $8 Ten City-Only Time Will Tell/Deep Kiss {2 by Moby + 3) $6 Brian Eno-Fractual Zoom {4 by Moby + 3) $6 Pet Shop Boys-Was It Worth It? {Miserablism (Elecktro Mix} + 3 $6 Recoil-Faith Healer {Barracuda Mix} + 6 $6 LFO-Love Is The Message/Tan Ta Ra {Tan Ta Ra {Moby Remix and Album Mix} + 2 $6 Westbam-Bam Bam Bam {Moby's dub mix} + 4 $6 The Prodigy-Charly/Everybody In The Place {Dance Hall Vers. of EITP + 3} $6 Promos featuring Moby --------------------- DPRO12817 Virgin Means To An End-The Music Of Joy Division {New Dawn Fades} $6 2copies No p/s PRCD 9331-2 Elektra Bring Back My Happiness {3 versions} $3 2copies back p/s PRCD 9118-2 Elektra Everytime You Touch Me {3 versions} $3 full p/s Posters ------- Email for list Videos ------ Email for list New Items/Prices Have Not Yer Been Set - Email To Enquire Everything Is Wrong - Vinyl LP STUMM130 Mint Condition Move- 12" copies of promo material, remixes, ep, etc... Haven't had time to look at them Hands On Yello- Double Disk sets... two different types issued Instinct Dance- Collection of songs from 4 Moby psuedonyms Moby Presskits from Move and Everything Is Wrong, expecting presskit for Animal Rights as well Several mags featuring Moby - will trade for other copies or sell mag at face value Lords Of Acid Vinyl LP -------- VooDoo-U (SS) $10 12" Vinyl --------- Take Control - Carol 2512-0 + Let's Get High $4 I Sit On Acid - 873 145-1 4 mixes $4 I Sit On Acid - KOAS 008 2 mixes $4 I Sit On Acid - KOAS 008 2 mixes $4 Rough Sex - Carol 2518-0 3 mixes + 2 of Take Control $6 Do What You Wanna Do - American - 4 mixes + I Sit On Acid 95' & Sex Bomb $8 CDMaxiSingles ------------- Do What You Wanna Do - American - same as above $5 I Must Increase My Bust - Carol 2525-2 8 mixes $6 The Crablouse - Carol 1769-2 11 mixes $7 Take Control - Carol 2512-2 2 mixes + Let's Get High $4 Full Length CD -------------- LUST- Carol 2513-2 $7 If you like LOA --------------- EROTICA IN 3D SOUND - Cyborgasm EROTICA IN 3D SOUND - Cyborgasm2- The Edge Of The Bed EROTIC SOUND EFFECTS - 147 Sound Effects Taking best offer for all three The Shamen some items listed in the Moby section above... Press Kits ---------- Axis Mutatis $8 (Includes b/w picture and 3 page bio) 12" Vinyl --------- Move Any Mountain(Pro-Gen) FK-003 4 mixes $5 LSI - 49 74401 6 mixes $5 Vinyl LP, etc... ---------------- The Face E.P. Face112 $10 RE:Evolution 118TP12 $12 Limited Edition with poster Numbered#11484 EN-TACT TPLP22SP Limited Edition Double LP $20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gfunk1138@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 02:18:22 -0500 (EST) srader@uci.edu wrote >NO! I really hate the punk rock crowds and moshing. I'm sick of >getting bruised every time I go out to see a great band (ie. Bad Religion). >I went to a few Orbital concerts and it was pure heaven. If Moby >could do a techno/dance show, I'm sure I wouldn't get kicked in the >head as much as if he pulled out his guitar. i do so agree about the punk rock crowd thing, it being that violence is a product of that situation. in truth, the guitar can be a very violent instrument, but nevertheless it doesn't have to be a violent instrument, thats the people's problem. And please allow us to be honest, violent people listen and watch violent things, its the matter of the crowd, which is exactly what you complain about. I have never seen a dance crowd get too violent, but if he did a bunch of punk shows and sold some tickets to that, then did a techno show in its place, you would have violent people there, and a situation probably would arise. hmm..damn i cant think of any way to end this one sooo... ill just stop it after my name - justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 09:24:03 -0800 (PST) I belive that Moby is one of the greatest musicians in all world and he can do what ever fuck he likes and he does.. so anyway, i like his old style, but i also like his new style, even more, i think. new style is energic that old and i am now out of dance music scene. i am just out of it, because i have lost my like of dance music and techno.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby article online Date: 28 Mar 1997 06:34:59 -0800 Joe Clark wrote: I met Moby the last time he was in town and wrote a story about it for the local queer rag. It and another story are online at my massive Web site at: Joe Clark joeclark@interlog.com great article. you lucky duck.why do i miss these videos? i don't watch mtv.is that it? i guess i'll have to to see "come on baby". thanks for sharing...great apge..i've bookmarked and will read on...by the way was that a low blow to michael stipe? i won't post that one to my rem buddies.it's a secret. keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 10:25:34 -0500 (EST) >i do so agree about the punk rock crowd thing, it being that violence is a >product of that situation. in truth, the guitar can be a very violent >instrument, but nevertheless it doesn't have to be a violent instrument, >thats the people's problem. the crowds at a moby punk rock show are different than the crowds at say a rancid punk rock show. maybe because alot of his fans are old PLUR'y raveheads or that they are just nice. moshing doesn't have to an angry way to dance, and most of the time it's not (at least at the shows i go to). now if you go to see pantera or morbid angel or gorguts or something, you are going to get injured most likely. but a moby show is something totally different all together. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "talk dirt to me" Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 12:08:06 -0600 punk rock if you can call them that crowds are a mass of disallusioned puppets doing what they think they're supposed to do at a punk rock show. i'm afraid thats not very punk. moshing isn't supposed to be a punch fest, most of you know that, it is supposed to be a collection of flowing bodies feeding off eachother to cool music. that is rad, not blood. i have faith in moby and his shows that they will be a worthwhile deal. i hope to see one. don't give up on the man. "i don't believe that everything happens however you act, but i do believe that everything happens if you don't act." C. Morrison take care everybody jeremy ---------- : From: Gfunk1138@aol.com : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 : Date: Friday, March 28, 1997 1:18 AM : : srader@uci.edu wrote : >NO! I really hate the punk rock crowds and moshing. I'm sick of : >getting bruised every time I go out to see a great band (ie. Bad Religion). : >I went to a few Orbital concerts and it was pure heaven. If Moby : >could do a techno/dance show, I'm sure I wouldn't get kicked in the : >head as much as if he pulled out his guitar. : : i do so agree about the punk rock crowd thing, it being that violence is a : product of that situation. in truth, the guitar can be a very violent : instrument, but nevertheless it doesn't have to be a violent instrument, : thats the people's problem. And please allow us to be honest, violent people : listen and watch violent things, its the matter of the crowd, which is : exactly what you complain about. I have never seen a dance crowd get too : violent, but if he did a bunch of punk shows and sold some tickets to that, : then did a techno show in its place, you would have violent people there, and : a situation probably would arise. hmm..damn i cant think of any way to end : this one sooo... ill just stop it after my name : : - justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 10:30:30 -0500 MO>NO! I really hate the punk rock crowds and moshing. I'm sick of MO>getting bruised every time I go out to see a great band (ie. Bad Religion). MO>I went to a few Orbital concerts and it was pure heaven. If Moby MO>could do a techno/dance show, I'm sure I wouldn't get kicked in the MO>head as much as if he pulled out his guitar. MO>Shaun I guess it all depends on who shows up..If it's all fans who've known Moby for years..most likely they're not going to mosh..or at least not going to hurt ppl in the process..If it's those who only know Moby's AR..then it could be a bruising mosh pit...Since my concert experince isn't that big..only concert I've been to that there was no pit was Tori Amos(and yes it was amazing)..but I also LOVED the energy of RATM/GVSB/Stanford Prison Experiment(didn't dare go into the mosh pit though :) )...Anyways...I'd LOVE to see Moby live regardless of what type of music he plays. Ryan Fishlips@abhqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 12:47:04 -0800 > punk. if he is so upset about the state of dance, why dosen't he DO > SOMETHING ABOUT IT!! but no...he goes and hides in the punk room. humpf! Come on now....I don't think he's "hiding" in his punk room ;) I didn't like AR at all when I first heard it-I had to listen to it at least 3 or 4 times all the way through before I could really enjoy it. I went through a brief punk phase a few years ago-and I got sick of the music pretty quickly. Moby just does it *so* well I fell in love with it.... Now I'd love to see Moby doing some industrial... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 13:10:46 -0800 > I went to a few Orbital concerts and it was pure heaven. If Moby > could do a techno/dance show, I'm sure I wouldn't get kicked in the > head as much as if he pulled out his guitar. I can guarantee you that we'd all be in for a safe show-whatever genre Moby chose for the evening. The *ONLY* time I ever have trouble at concerts are when they're all-ages. Let's see: Tool, Malhavoc, Filter & Frontline Assembly were the last all-ages shows I've seen-and I've gotten extremely annoyed with little-shits at all of them. I'm not trying to center out a particular age group-but they're usually the trouble-makers. My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Pop Will Eat Itself, Kinder Atom, Download, Tricky, KMFDM, Die Krupps & Lords Of Acid were all stricly 19+ shows and they were great. No problems. My point is that you probably won't find a bunch of underage adrenalized punks out to kick people in the face at a Moby show. I have a feeling Moby's audience is a little more mature than that (I'd hope so at least)..... ...Ok, that's my rant for the day... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: RE: (mobility) Oil 1 Date: 28 Mar 1997 10:30:30 -0500 MO>NO! I really hate the punk rock crowds and moshing. I'm sick of MO>getting bruised every time I go out to see a great band (ie. Bad Religion). MO>I went to a few Orbital concerts and it was pure heaven. If Moby MO>could do a techno/dance show, I'm sure I wouldn't get kicked in the MO>head as much as if he pulled out his guitar. MO>Shaun I guess it all depends on who shows up..If it's all fans who've known Moby for years..most likely they're not going to mosh..or at least not going to hurt ppl in the process..If it's those who only know Moby's AR..then it could be a bruising mosh pit...Since my concert experince isn't that big..only concert I've been to that there was no pit was Tori Amos(and yes it was amazing)..but I also LOVED the energy of RATM/GVSB/Stanford Prison Experiment(didn't dare go into the mosh pit though :) )...Anyways...I'd LOVE to see Moby live regardless of what type of music he plays. Ryan Fishlips@abhqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: (mobility) live shows Date: 28 Mar 1997 17:42:06 -0500 (EST) > The *ONLY* time I ever have trouble at concerts are when they're all-ages. hmm, but that would require me to miss yet another preformance by a great artist whom i respect and admire...in the last year i have had to miss: pridigy, tricky, chemical brothers, the orb, and the live moby thing in chicago just because of my age...by denying the younger audience the chance to see him, moby would be forgetting his days as a youngun, and the feeling he got from seeing his own favourites live. the renegade robot Liam of the cosmos and beyond ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl Subject: (mobility) greetings Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:16:11 -0600 (CST) i just joined the list & i would like to introduce myself. i'm a 19 year old college student studing Fine Art & Art History... ive been interested in Moby for a few years now... i own Moby, Rare: the Collected B-Sides, Everything is Wrong & the new album Animal Rights. Unfortunatly i have never seen Moby live. i like his older music & his newer music the best i believe. the other musical groups and artists that i like are Tori Amos, Joy Division, SWANS & Dead Can Dance... i like a variety of music. I dont know what else i should say for now... just hello *bluegirl* "And all I want is to save you, honey Or the strenght to walk away" "Carrion", Fiona Apple ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) Re: Revolver UK CDs Date: 28 Mar 1997 19:18:14 -0600 (CST) > From: "Hypecadet" > Every One Of My Problems & Dark are two of his best tracks-and the Revolver > remix is fucking *BRILLIANT*. YES! all the b-sides from Revolver are terrific! i even love lovesick. displaced is cool like now i let it go and love song for my mother, but very short. it leads _very_ well into sway, though, i think. but yes, every one of my problems is one of the most incredible tracks moby has done. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) AMP webpage Date: 28 Mar 1997 19:27:43 -0600 (CST) with the recent AMP post, i thought it might be appropriate to mention that i have AMP info on my webpage. thanks to fishlips for the info about when it will be on. my TV guide lists, though, that it's still on the usual friday night/saturday morning at 2a EST, saturday night/ sunday morning at 1a EST schedule. they skipped AMP to show a beavis and butthead moron-a-thon two saturdays ago. as for why they didn't show it the next friday night/saturday morning or last saturday night/ sunday morning i don't know, but hopefully at the most we'll only have missed one episode, and if they decide to be really nice, they'll show us the one they skipped tonight, but i really don't know. anyway, check it out. -- http://www.execpc.com/~danperry/index.html FSOL eno AFX moby VANGELIS dF bjork PSB e dM NUO pg HoJo JJ CH tff TTwins BABBLE steve.roach vidna.obmana soulwhirlingsomewhere david.sylvian robert.fripp LSeeds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: (mobility) Under/Over Age Shows Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:13:34 -0600 >> The *ONLY* time I ever have trouble at concerts are when they're all-ages. >hmm, but that would require me to miss yet another preformance by a great >artist whom i respect and admire...in the last year i have had to miss: >pridigy, tricky, chemical brothers, the orb, and the live moby thing in >chicago just because of my age...by denying the younger audience the chance >to see him, moby would be forgetting his days as a youngun, and the feeling >he got from seeing his own favourites live. Well, lets not blame Moby now. I too live in the Chicagoland area and realise the latest shows which have become 18+...The Prodigy show has been postponed anyway...when I was 20 I tried to see a Material Issue gig way back in '93. They made me sit in the balcony because I was underage...along with about most of their fans. Even though I had access backstage with a pass and all, they still would not let me in because I was underage. Was it the bands fault...no. If you go to a show and you find out its 18+ or 21+ its usually the promoter and the venue to blame. Some venues have such stupid-ass politics and promoters owe favors left and right...usually the musicians are too busy to decide where they want to play. I'm sure Moby would LOVE to play an all-ages gig, but Dome Room (where he made his recent announced appearance) is strictly a 21+ venue after 9:00 pm. Some clubs have certain alcohol license related policies where they can only let people of age enter a venue after a certain time. Leave it to politics and money to ruin an underage fan's opportunity. Thats why I like it when a band will sometimes do an all-ages gig for the early show and a 18+ later that nite. Alot of my 21+ friends hate going to all-ages shows because they complain about the "kids, moshing, etc." (they should talk...after a few strong drinks, they sound like they're 12 and act like babies). Everyone has to be pleased somehow. It sucks, but when you're over age, don't forget the little guy (no pun intended). --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Revolver UK CDs Date: 29 Mar 1997 08:20:01 -0500 (EST) i also got my vinyl of the U.S. Revolver remixes and they rock!!! they are incredible and i like them a lot....i can't wait till Moby does his remixed version of AR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: (mobility) go subliminal mix Date: 29 Mar 1997 13:07:25 -0500 (EST) can someone here tell me what moby is saying in the subliminal mix of "go"? thanks, love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cherilyn Subject: (mobility) yet another review Date: 29 Mar 1997 12:28:38 -0700 (MST) sorry guys, i know how much some of you hate reviews, but i found this a couple weeks ago in a local alternative mag and thought it was kind of humorous. hopefully some of you will enjoy it. With the release of Animal Rights, it's abundantly clear that Moby (ne Richard Hall) thinks everything is still wrong, but until it's fixed, you'll find his musical message in every section of the music store. Trot up to the Techno bin, and chances are, it'll be there. "Dead Sun," "Anima,' and "Alone" bubble along in a nice ambient fashion that almost says, "GO!"--but stops short. Moby, thankfully, has learned the lesson that dumber members of the Class of Rave '92 (can you say Pro-di-gy?) have not, hinting only slightly at earlier hit songs. But it's just that...only a hint. Animals get their rights, but at the expense of the techno sound that made Moby famous. The Metal bin is a good bet, too. It seems as though Moby never fully recovered from remaking Joy Division's "New Dawn Fades." "Face It," "Say It's All Mine," and yet another cover, Mission of Burma's "That's When I Reach For My Revolver," all reek of a bad Metallica/Stone Temple Pilots jam melded onto Ian Curtis's darker lyrical tendencies. When "the truth is not that comfortable" for all the disenfranchized animals out there, well, that's when Moby reaches for his revolver. There's a fine psychoanalytic study in there somewhere. And don't forget to hit the Easy Listening and Piano Recitals bins on your way out. The lilting track "Living" drips with the milky stuff, as does "Old," a testbook exercise in mass-induced hankie wielding. Then you'll find violins galore on "Love Song For My Mom," which leaves only one question: When is the Precious Moments Moby due at the Hallmark store? While a friend described Animal Rights as schizofrenic, I might choose paranoid; Moby seems so afraid that he can't change the world with one kind of music that he'll try ten. Either way, Moby may soon be prime for a musical reality check. In a nutshell: Time for a baboon heart transplant, Mr. Moby. i think my favorite line had to be the one about the precious moments moby. i could picture that, and it just made me laugh. cherilyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) yet another review Date: 29 Mar 1997 18:16:10 -0500 MO> With the release of Animal Rights, it's abundantly clear that Moby MO>(ne Richard Hall) thinks everything is still wrong, but until it's fixed, MO>you'll find his musical message in every section of the music store. Umm Cher..you can tell this reviewer that the Moby = Richard Hall has been done to death by now..and that Moby's message has always been diverse(just look at all the releases over the years) MO> Trot up to the Techno bin, and chances are, it'll be there. "Dead MO>Sun," "Anima,' and "Alone" bubble along in a nice ambient fashion that MO>almost says, "GO!"--but stops short. Moby, thankfully, has learned the MO>lesson that dumber members of the Class of Rave '92 (can you say Pro-di-gy?) MO>have not, hinting only slightly at earlier hit songs. But it's just MO>that...only a hint. Animals get their rights, but at the expense of the MO>techno sound that made Moby famous. I'm sure Moby's happy with how "Go" took him..but I'm sure he wanted to move past it..move on..Why would he want to hint back at it??? BTW..I dunno about Anima(haven't heard it)..but I love DS and Alone. I'm surprised the reviewer didn't rip Moby for putting an old song(Alone..came out on the BBMH single) on a new album. MO> The Metal bin is a good bet, too. It seems as though Moby never MO>fully recovered from remaking Joy Division's "New Dawn Fades." "Face It," MO>"Say It's All Mine," and yet another cover, Mission of Burma's "That's When MO>I Reach For My Revolver," all reek of a bad Metallica/Stone Temple Pilots MO>jam melded onto Ian Curtis's darker lyrical tendencies. Boy..first it's NIN/Soundgarden..now it's Metallica/STP...who's next...Manson/Twisted Sister??!?! Since I haven't heard the new Metallica..or the harder edged songs of STP's..I can't really comment if FI, SIAM, and TWIRFMR reak of them...but sorry...when I hear those songs...I hear Moby..no one else...Besides..I think those 3 are brillant. MO> And don't forget to hit the Easy Listening and Piano Recitals bins MO>on your way out. The lilting track "Living" drips with the milky stuff, as MO>does "Old," a testbook exercise in mass-induced hankie wielding. Then MO>you'll find violins galore on "Love Song For My Mom," which leaves only one MO>question: When is the Precious Moments Moby due at the Hallmark store? Seems to me that Moby accomplished what he set out to do..make those songs heart jerkers...They remind me of EIW(the song) or WICILTD..close your eyes and watch the colors flow over your eyelids. MO> While a friend described Animal Rights as schizofrenic, I might MO>choose paranoid; Moby seems so afraid that he can't change the world with MO>one kind of music that he'll try ten. Either way, Moby may soon be prime MO>for a musical reality check. Hmmm..if Moby was paranoid w/ the album..he must have been paranoid since the start..seeing how he's been jumping genres for years now. With the EIW remix album..Moby(according to the reviewer's notes) must have had multiple personalities..According to Moby..he has 6 different types of music on that album. MO> In a nutshell: Time for a baboon heart transplant, Mr. Moby. In my nutshell: Time to buy a clue, Mr(s). Reviewer Thanks for the review Cher. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) AMP webpage..no moby content Date: 29 Mar 1997 18:16:36 -0500 MO>on the usual friday night/saturday morning at 2a EST, saturday night/ MO>sunday morning at 1a EST schedule. Can you(Dan) or anyone tell me when Amp is on in the MTZ(Mtn Time Zone)..our local paper decided to zap MTV so it's no longer listed in the local tv guide...I jumped on MTV's site and TV Guide online to figure out when it's on..I won't know till tomorrow night if I set mom's vcr up correctly to record it..Any help is APPRECIATED. Ryan Fishlips@Ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) greetings Date: 29 Mar 1997 18:16:42 -0500 MO>i just joined the list & i would like to introduce myself. Welcome to the list bluegirl :) MO>i'm a 19 year old college student studing Fine Art & Art History... ive May I/We ask where you're at on this planet?!?! MO>Rights. Unfortunatly i have never seen Moby live. i like his older music MO>& his newer music the best i believe. Don't feel too bad..a few of us(like me) haven't either :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) AMP Date: 29 Mar 1997 18:30:15 -0700 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > Can you(Dan) or anyone tell me when Amp is on in the MTZ(Mtn Time It is on Friday evening at 7pm and another episode at midnight, MST (Mountain Standard Time ;) From what I've seen of the show, it is most unimpressive. The music isn't that great, and even if it's good, the videos are bizarre, flashy and abstract, and annoyingly distract me from the music. I did get to see Orbital yesterday (looking very dull/zoned in the "Are We Here" video), but no Moby. I think that maybe the publicity people don't want Moby's older techno era shown, because they are trying to promote him as alternative/punk/whatever. That is most likely the reason, IMHO. Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 29 Mar 1997 21:21:28 -0500 (EST) hey y'all...this is a question. well im going to see MOBY LIVE at this thing in Richmond VA... but i was wondering if i get to talk to him..which i will try my hardest to get something said to him.. or an audograph. what would you like me to ask him?? anything unusual or specific?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) Another Review(don't ya just love em?!?!) Date: 29 Mar 1997 19:27:52 -0500 Moby Animal Rights (Elektra) Rev it up, e-boys and it girls, 'cause that techno kingpin is back. And, get this: he's no longer techno. Yes, Moby, that errant seed of the literary Melville clan, the man who topped all techno fave lists a years or so ago without lifting a lever, has edited out of his life that of which he made his name. It's as if his dear ol' great-great Uncle Herman had given up the pen after writing "Moby Dick." Moby may have forsaken techno, but he damned sure didn't forget about technology. If anything, he takes processed electronics to a purer level. Techno has always been considered the punk of electronic music: raw, fast, often angry, it's hardcore machine music. Moby, ever at the forefront of what matters most, has this time put the metal -- make that heavy metal -- into what was mostly mere machine music. Like, say, underknown but ever-influential prog-metal maniacs, Chrome, or maybe a post-techno-fried Dead Kennedys, the loud, hard stuff on Animal Rights is as mosh-worthy as it is mindful. Smart and snarling, it's easy to hear that Moby is genuinely excited about all this rock stuff. And wonders of wonders, he finds a way to keep the IQ quotient above par without letting his brain get in the way of the music. But that's not all! Of the sixteen tracks on Animal Rights, eight are either midtempo stompers, including the riveting first single, a remake of Mission of Burma's "That's When I Reach For My Revolver," and "Say It's All Mine," the most Sabbath of the lot and this scribe's choice for second single, or speed-throttled scorchers, like "Heavy Flow." The other half of this record, however, is another dimension entirely, more akin to Brian Eno's Music For Airports than Metallica's And Justice For All. Some entries, like "Amina" and "Soft," are sparse, melancholy interludes that offer brief respite from the mayhem which bracket them. While others, most notably "Season In Hell" (after Rimbaud?) and "Love Song For My Mom" are full-fledged song cycles of ambient distractions. That Animal Rights is neither techno nor home-page pop is itself news. That Moby manages with utter success to straddle abstract mood music with Manson-friendly values is genuine cause for alarm. Could this headbanging peacenik of plastic wonder be the next Rock God? And if so, what does that say to all those lonely souls out there singing in front of their mainframe? That once upon a time Everything was Wrong, and now, anything is possible? -- John Hood Once again we have the Moby = R. Hall...what does this fact have to do w/ his music?!?! Another screw up by the reviewer is the "Moby may have forsaken techno"...maybe the reviewer needs to hear the latest VC release..or the "techno" songs on the TWIRFMR remix single..sure doesn't sound like he has forsaken "techno"..I think this is the first review I've seen that the reviewer has liked AR... Ryan Fishlips@abhqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 29 Mar 1997 19:48:52 -0500 MO>hey y'all...this is a question. well im going to see MOBY LIVE at this thin MO>in Richmond VA... but i was wondering if i get to talk to him..which MO>will try my hardest to get something said to him.. or an audograph. what MO>would you like me to ask him?? anything unusual or specific?? Ask him to consider Boise, Idaho as a tour stop ;> Actually..what I'm most curious about it what the tour is going to be like..what's he gonna play..anyone gonna tag along...etc..but I'm sure you can tell us all that info :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liquidrae@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 29 Mar 1997 22:28:04 -0500 (EST) >Ask him to consider Boise, Idaho as a tour stop ;> Actually..what I'm >most curious about it what the tour is going to be like..what's he >gonna play..anyone gonna tag along...etc..but I'm sure you can tell us >all that info :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm yah i will ask him:) ... i'll let EVERYONE know as soon as i talk to him ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 29 Mar 1997 21:36:18 -0600 (CST) to blue girl: i used to go by blue boy when my hair was blue. just a non-interesting tid bit. -xaq- zbentz@d.umn.edu the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." < - m o b y - > "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: (mobility) moby sighted! Date: 29 Mar 1997 21:42:08 -0600 (CST) today i went to the past place across from mty friends apt. as i was standing in line waiting to get my yummy cheese slice, i looked over and saw moby! well, i THOUGHT i did... actually, it was just someone who looked a lot like him, only taller and with really struggling facial hair. but his voice was exactly the same. i realized it wasn't him when he ordered two slices of pepperoni and from the fact that i was in minnapolis minnesota. no one cool hangs out here. (sly grin to ryu) so that's my moby news for the day... -xaq- zbentz@d.umn.edu the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." < - m o b y - > "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) List Profiles Date: 29 Mar 1997 20:58:25 -0700 I have finally completed a page of profiles for the Mobility mailing list. It is _basic_ and as the page says, "there's more to come". No links are provided except through this email. It took me forever to get this thing up because I was hoping to get a CGI script that would let members add, delete, or update as they please. Well that didn't work. So if any of you have experience in CGI scripting please let me know. I think this page would work much better if individuals could work with a script rather than going through me. The profiles currently listed are from February when this was first brought up. If any of you didn't send them and want to now, please go ahead. Also, if anybody wants theirs updated or changed, please send a revision. I basically did a cut and paste job so I'll be putting in whatever you type. I'm open to ideas and suggestions.... Should the profiles look different? Should there be more categories/content? Change the page set up / style? Any Examples? I will look at all of the suggestions and add what seems to be most popular or helpful. I might not respond to all of the emails but I definitely want to hear what you guys and gals have to say. p.s. I'll basically be away from the net for the next day or two, so don't expect any immediate responses after this email. I look forward to you comments/suggestions. Thanks! -- ** damian@xmission.com ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/profiles.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 29 Mar 1997 23:00:07 -0500 (EST) >I'm >surprised the reviewer didn't rip Moby for putting an old >song(Alone..came out on the BBMH single) on a new album. what, you expect these people to RESEARCH before they review? that's unheard of. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review(don't ya just love em?!?!) Date: 29 Mar 1997 23:01:57 -0500 (EST) >The other >half of this record, however, is >another dimension entirely, more akin to Brian Eno's Music For >Airports than Metallica's And Justice For All. >Some entries, like "Amina" and "Soft," are >sparse, melancholy interludes that offer >brief respite from the mayhem which bracket them. i find "soft" to be one of the more aggresive songs on the album. i think this reviewer wasn't paying much attention. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 29 Mar 1997 23:03:15 -0500 (EST) >hey y'all...this is a question. well im going to see MOBY LIVE at this thing >in Richmond VA... but i was wondering if i get to talk to him..which i >will try my hardest to get something said to him.. or an audograph. what >would you like me to ask him?? anything unusual or specific?? i would like to know more about when the upcuming trophy singles are going to be released. i would also like to know if moby ever plans to sign other musicians to trophy, or is it just for his own stuff. thanks. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Ruh Subject: (mobility) Moby & Danzig Date: 29 Mar 1997 23:12:22 -0500 (EST) Hello Everyone - I was wondering if anybody else has seen a copy of the newest Alternative Press magazine. It has a conversation between Moby and Glen Danzig which is kinda interesting. I didn't get a chance to read the whole thing, though. There are also individual articles about each in there too. I'm just wondering who came up with this pairing... Peace, Brian -- "We all need to be resources / Rather than recepticles" - Citizen Fish "The subculture is the main line and what we see around us is the anomaly." - Gary Snyder ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For all your needs since 1977: http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~beruh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: I Have Herpies! Subject: Re: (mobility) moby sighted! Date: 29 Mar 1997 23:13:49 -0500 (EST) >no one cool hangs out here. >(sly grin to ryu) ladies and gentlemen, we are gathered here today 2 get through this thing called "animal rights". electric word "rights", it means heavy metal and that's a pretty old genre. but i'm here 2 tell u...there's somethin' else..."the end of everything". an album of neverending ambience, it will always be the one, day or night. so when you call up that man in uptown new york, u know the one: mr. everything is wrong. instead of asking him how much of his mind is left, ask him how much of his kind. 'cause baby in "animal rights", things are much harder than in the "end of everything". with "animal rights", he's on his own. the preceding was a parody of prince's intro to "lets go crazy". i adore animal rights...probably more than everything is wrong. but the words just fit to make me slander the album in comparison to the end of everything. sorry. and what's this trash about no one cool living in minneapolis? love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby sighted! Date: 29 Mar 1997 22:22:27 -0600 (CST) On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, I Have Herpies! wrote: > >no one cool hangs out here. > >(sly grin to ryu) > > ladies and gentlemen, we are gathered here today 2 get through OH MY GAWD!!!!! THATS SWOOOOOOO FUNNY!!! I'M STILL LAUGHING!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! *sigh* *pant pant pant* > and what's this trash about no one cool living in minneapolis? well, i think YOU got the joke... -xaq- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 29 Mar 1997 20:28:16 -0800 cherilyn wrote: sorry guys, i know how much some of you hate reviews, but i found this a couple weeks ago in a local alternative mag and thought it was kind of humorous. hopefully some of you will enjoy it. With the release of Animal Rights, it's abundantly clear that Moby (ne Richard Hall) thinks everything is still wrong, but until it's fixed, you'll find his musical message in every section of the music store. Trot up to the Techno bin, and chances are, it'll be there. "Dead Sun," "Anima,' and "Alone" bubble along in a nice ambient fashion that almost says, "GO!"--but stops short. Moby, thankfully, has learned the lesson that dumber members of the Class of Rave '92 (can you say Pro-di-gy?) have not, hinting only slightly at earlier hit songs. But it's just that...only a hint. Animals get their rights, but at the expense of the techno sound that made Moby famous. The Metal bin is a good bet, too. It seems as though Moby never fully recovered from remaking Joy Division's "New Dawn Fades." "Face It," "Say It's All Mine," and yet another cover, Mission of Burma's "That's When I Reach For My Revolver," all reek of a bad Metallica/Stone Temple Pilots jam melded onto Ian Curtis's darker lyrical tendencies. When "the truth is not that comfortable" for all the disenfranchized animals out there, well, that's when Moby reaches for his revolver. There's a fine psychoanalytic study in there somewhere. And don't forget to hit the Easy Listening and Piano Recitals bins on your way out. The lilting track "Living" drips with the milky stuff, as does "Old," a testbook exercise in mass-induced hankie wielding. Then you'll find violins galore on "Love Song For My Mom," which leaves only one question: When is the Precious Moments Moby due at the Hallmark store? While a friend described Animal Rights as schizofrenic, I might choose paranoid; Moby seems so afraid that he can't change the world with one kind of music that he'll try ten. Either way, Moby may soon be prime for a musical reality check. In a nutshell: Time for a baboon heart transplant, Mr. Moby. i think my favorite line had to be the one about the precious moments moby. i could picture that, and it just made me laugh. cherilyn geeze what has moby ever done to her? talk about rabid! kls ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) The Saint soundtrack Date: 30 Mar 1997 11:12:59 -0800 (PST) i got copy of mine yesterday. i like it. i didn't really expect song like oil 1 from Moby in his own name anymore. it is so technoey.. but i like it. it is good soundtrack to buy anyway.. David Bowie's Dead man walking is cool like everything but the girl's before today. also i like many others tracks on it.. and this is info to Dan's discography. The saint soundtrack us cd virgin records 7243 8 42959 2 9 track 3 Oil 1 5:31 +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Attention to all The Prodigy fans Date: 30 Mar 1997 11:17:04 -0800 (PST) you can now download unreleased song (on mp3 format) from my page http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei/prodigy/minefields.html it's minefields (monkey mafia mix) it's only released on promo (50 copies pressed cd & 12) so.. just dowmload it quickly, because i may have to remove it soon.. =( +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 30 Mar 1997 12:58:27 -0600 (CST) About how Mody; > never fully recovered from remaking Joy Division's "New Dawn Fades." > "Face It," "Say It's All Mine," and yet another cover, Mission of >Burma's "That's When I Reach For My Revolver," all reek of a bad >Metallica/Stone Temple Pilots jam melded onto Ian Curtis's darker lyrical >tendencies. id like to say that i find this rewiew to be wrong in so many ways. i am offended with how the reviewer used Ian Curis as a negative comparison. I don't understand where he got that comparison... new Moby music has a lot more energy than Joy Division every did. the vocals on "Animal Rights" do not sound dark to me.... & "...Rech For My Revolver" does not remind me of Metallica or Stone Temple Pilots. this review seems to be written by a very closed minded person who listened to this album once & then judged it. well, thats all i have to say right now... i had to say something when i read the Ian Curtis/ Joy Division slam. *bluegirl* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review(don't ya just love e Date: 30 Mar 1997 17:03:26 -0500 MO>i find "soft" to be one of the more aggresive songs on the MO>album. i think this reviewer wasn't paying much attention. MO>love, MO>ryu I wonder how many times they listen to a certain album before they review it...For me I NEVER pass judgement on an album till I've heard it at least 3 or more times..I have to be in a certain mood to listen to certain types of music(for example..I don't think I could listen to AR 5 minutes after I just woke up..unless I'm late for class/work :) )..And you are right Ryu...Soft is along the lines of Someone To Love, Heavy Flow, or You...not LSFMM or Living(though..we're they on the US AR...considering I only have the UK AR :) ) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.abhqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 30 Mar 1997 17:03:24 -0500 MO>what, you expect these people to RESEARCH before they MO>review? that's unheard of. MO>love, MO>ryu I'm sure some do research..so they don't sound like clueless f*ckwits..but it's obvious this person didn't..I mean..as I've said earlier, if you're gonna slam Moby for having different types of music on AR..you better slam his whole career. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts on the Saint Date: 30 Mar 1997 19:09:58 -0600 ---------- > From: fishlips@ahbqs.com > I wonder how many times they listen to a certain album before they > review it? The rules for where I work is at least five listens all the way through in a week. I've fudged that before and usually lived to regret it. Also, I got the Saint Soundtrack yesterday. I Love it. The Moby track is great, if repetitive. To be honest, I like a number of the other artists better. I especially love Fluke, Chemical Bros., and Underworld (even if these tracks have been around a while). "Oil 1" sounds like a Voodoo Child track. A lot of his techno stuff lately sounds unfinished, like he's trying to stretch one idea into a whole song. It's like a demo or a single sequence that needed a bit more development before he put it out. My roommate thinks he sampled the female vocalist off a porno movie. Brad S. Caviness, Contributing On-Line Editor, 7Ball Magazine (http://www.7ball.com) bigwig@agora.ualr.edu "I've often wondered how someone could put a critique of music into words. And I've also wondered why there was no musical commentary on words." - Dr. Peter Kreeft, author "There seems, by the way, to be nothing pending in the Christian Coalition`s political wish list about sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, or clothing the naked, unless, of course, the naked got that way for fun." - Tom Teepen, Cox News Service ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Todd Huss Subject: (mobility) Total change? I don't think so! Date: 30 Mar 1997 21:47:37 -0500 Am I the only one who sees similarities in the newer and older stuff? It is still drastically different, but if you listen, you can tell it is the same guy, I think. I don't know, maybe it is just my paranoia... but I think the fact that Moby is still Moby has something to do with it. He still hates bigots, etc. He is still vegan. He's still Moby, and Moby makes music. He still uses fancy technology to try and get people to want to move around a dance floor while still getting a message. I think "Come On Baby" makes my bones start dancing almost as much as "Go." Call me crazy, I still think it's dance music, it's just a different dance. Just my $.02 Todd Huss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Total change? I don't think so! Date: 30 Mar 1997 20:10:54 -0700 Todd Huss wrote: > Am I the only one who sees similarities in the newer and older stuff? It > is still drastically different, but if you listen, you can tell it is the > same guy, I think. I don't know, maybe it is just my paranoia... but I > think the fact that Moby is still Moby has something to do with it. He > still hates bigots, etc. He is still vegan. He's still Moby, and Moby > makes music. He still uses fancy technology to try and get people to want > to move around a dance floor while still getting a message. No, Todd, you're not the only one. I agree that though there is a tremendous difference between the exhilarating techno that made me fall in love with Moby's sound, and the angry distorted "heavy guitar" songs that comprise Animal Rights, they still have a common source: Moby's heart/soul/mind. That is what distinguishes the AR tracks from other rock music, and that is why I like them (though I still maintain that Moby's techno and Voodoo Child instrumentals are superior). BTW, I hope that everybody had a happy Easter! And as you munch your jelly beans, remember the meaning of the holiday -- that Jesus Christ was resurrected after his crucifiction, and lives in glory today and forevermore! (Nonchristians, please don't have a cow, I'm not shoving anything down your throat. Your belief/disbelief is between you and God. But as for me, I'm a happy Christian today.) Daniel Cerman http://www.hyperreal.com/music/artists/moby/ http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/2307/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L Potter" Subject: Re: (mobility) AMP Date: 30 Mar 1997 23:36:31 +0000 this past weekend it was on at it's "regular" times of 2am on friday night and 1am on saturday night... and they played some good stuff that i can't remember... i just remember it was good... (i was half asleep while watching it...) lee =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= they can make me go to college, but they still can't make me think! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Himes Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 31 Mar 1997 00:10:41 -0500 > > With the release of Animal Rights, it's abundantly clear that Moby >(ne Richard Hall) thinks everything is still wrong, but until it's fixed, >you'll find his musical message in every section of the music store. [snip review] > In a nutshell: Time for a baboon heart transplant, Mr. Moby. > Wow, a reviewer that actually thought what he or she was saying, rather than just spouting mindless name dropping drivel. Kinda refreshing, actually. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) go subliminal mix Date: 31 Mar 1997 01:24:42 -0600 (CST) i beleive that moby put in some things that he said "were cheesy" (or something equivalent, like "love is stronger than hate" and such things, but i am not positive about this.....????? andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts on the Saint Date: 31 Mar 1997 01:38:30 -0600 (CST) i also got the saint soundtrack (listening to it now...) i really love it. moby's track freaked out my dad i think, dunno why....think maybe the "moaning" vocals (as he put it). the duran duran i could do without and the superior, but bowie's track is GREAT! even though oil1 IS quite repetitive, i love it. (kinda like the 2nd track on the lopez single is repetitive...) anyway, for those of you not owning the saint soundtrack, get it...just my 2 cents... andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:15:04 -0800 > the other musical groups and artists that i like are Tori Amos, Joy > Division, SWANS & Dead Can Dance... i like a variety of music. Classic "cheese-goth" ;) Dead Can Dance are an amazing group-have you heard Lisa Gerrard's solo project? Really nice stuff... ...ok-some moby content...I just picked up the Into The Blue (remixes) cd-the red cover one. It might just be the best Moby single I've got; give it a listen sometime... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Total change? I don't think so! Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:42:19 -0800 > to move around a dance floor while still getting a message. I think "Come > On Baby" makes my bones start dancing almost as much as "Go." Call me > crazy, I still think it's dance music, it's just a different dance. Very well put-no matter what the genre, no matter how fast the beat is-Moby always makes me sway (pun intended)... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Total change? I don't think so! Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:42:19 -0800 > to move around a dance floor while still getting a message. I think "Come > On Baby" makes my bones start dancing almost as much as "Go." Call me > crazy, I still think it's dance music, it's just a different dance. Very well put-no matter what the genre, no matter how fast the beat is-Moby always makes me sway (pun intended)... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) go subliminal mix Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:24:36 -0800 > can someone here tell me what moby is saying > in the subliminal mix of "go"? I think it's backwards-I even tried a stereo-seperation and couldn't get anything... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) live shows Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:11:34 -0800 > artist whom i respect and admire...in the last year i have had to miss: > pridigy, tricky, chemical brothers, the orb, and the live moby thing in > chicago just because of my age. By no means am I trying to encompass the entire under-age crowd by bitching about the shows; but the fact is that every all ages show I've been to in the past few years has been a let down. I know the feeling though-I missed a Pop Will Eat Itself show & a Pigface show in *one* month because I was underage. AArrgghh.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) go subliminal mix Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:24:36 -0800 > can someone here tell me what moby is saying > in the subliminal mix of "go"? I think it's backwards-I even tried a stereo-seperation and couldn't get anything... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) greetings Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:15:04 -0800 > the other musical groups and artists that i like are Tori Amos, Joy > Division, SWANS & Dead Can Dance... i like a variety of music. Classic "cheese-goth" ;) Dead Can Dance are an amazing group-have you heard Lisa Gerrard's solo project? Really nice stuff... ...ok-some moby content...I just picked up the Into The Blue (remixes) cd-the red cover one. It might just be the best Moby single I've got; give it a listen sometime... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:31:44 -0800 > Boy..first it's NIN/Soundgarden..now it's Metallica/STP...who's > next...Manson/Twisted Sister??!?! Since I haven't heard the new *this* made me laugh. I've just got this terrible vision of Dee Snyder & Moby doing a gig together....Ughh.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) go subliminal mix Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:24:36 -0800 > can someone here tell me what moby is saying > in the subliminal mix of "go"? I think it's backwards-I even tried a stereo-seperation and couldn't get anything... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) go subliminal mix Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:24:36 -0800 > can someone here tell me what moby is saying > in the subliminal mix of "go"? I think it's backwards-I even tried a stereo-seperation and couldn't get anything... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Total change? I don't think so! Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:42:19 -0800 > to move around a dance floor while still getting a message. I think "Come > On Baby" makes my bones start dancing almost as much as "Go." Call me > crazy, I still think it's dance music, it's just a different dance. Very well put-no matter what the genre, no matter how fast the beat is-Moby always makes me sway (pun intended)... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:31:44 -0800 > Boy..first it's NIN/Soundgarden..now it's Metallica/STP...who's > next...Manson/Twisted Sister??!?! Since I haven't heard the new *this* made me laugh. I've just got this terrible vision of Dee Snyder & Moby doing a gig together....Ughh.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) Total change? I don't think so! Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:42:19 -0800 > to move around a dance floor while still getting a message. I think "Come > On Baby" makes my bones start dancing almost as much as "Go." Call me > crazy, I still think it's dance music, it's just a different dance. Very well put-no matter what the genre, no matter how fast the beat is-Moby always makes me sway (pun intended)... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl Subject: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 10:33:54 -0600 (CST) i would like to know why hypecadet sends all of his msges numerous times?? going through my inbox & deleting them is kind of a pain... ----*bluegirl*------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 09:13:44 -0800 bluegirl wrote: i would like to know why hypecadet sends all of his msges numerous times?? going through my inbox & deleting them is kind of a pain... ----*bluegirl*------------------* good topic blue as i had the same prob*.keri* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 14:11:18 -0600 (CST) i also have been getting ALOT of copies of messages. i got the subliminal go message 5 times today....hmmm....xaq? any insight? andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keri schaeffer Subject: (mobility) telnet Date: 31 Mar 1997 12:06:18 -0800 i need some info on how to use telnet in case there's another moby online chat.i've found something about telnet,but i might be opening a can o' worms. keri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 14:31:42 -0600 (CST) i got about 12msgs from Hypecadet in about 5minutes or less... & most of them were repeats. whats the point of that. oh well, maybe he just goofed *----*bluegirl*------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) yet another review Date: 31 Mar 1997 15:09:38 -0500 MO>> Boy..first it's NIN/Soundgarden..now it's Metallica/STP...who's MO>> next...Manson/Twisted Sister??!?! Since I haven't heard the new MO>*this* made me laugh. MO>I've just got this terrible vision of Dee Snyder & Moby doing a gig MO>together....Ughh.... I only made the reference cuz Manson did play here recently(and raised hell of course..a bomb threat postponed the concert for 1.5 hrs...Manson's comment??? Something to the tune of "how christian it was of them") and TS(w/ Dee) are playing here in the VERY near future(I would go though if Moby was playing there...I'd go to ANY concert if Moby was playing at any part of it) :) Anyone know of any tour dates yet(other than the ones already known??!?! Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) telnet Date: 31 Mar 1997 15:09:48 -0500 MO> i need some info on how to use telnet in case there's another moby MO>online chat.i've found something about telnet,but i might be opening a MO>can o' worms. keri Last chat that was held was on SonicNet's irc server..so you'd need an irc program(like MIRC)..not a telnet one..You might want to ask your local ISP how you should go about telnetting(if you want to)...Once I'm connected..I just run a telnet program(dl'ed somewhere off the web) and away I go. Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts o Date: 31 Mar 1997 15:09:52 -0500 MO>The rules for where I work is at least five listens all the way through in MO>a week. I've fudged that before and usually lived to regret it. MO>Brad S. Caviness With deadlines and all..I can understand..but I just don't see how I could review an album after just one week(especially the ones that don't catch me right from the start(MBM's STS and Moby's Ambient, for example)...then there are the albums that I loved in the start..then as I caught on..considered them "crap"(for lack of a better word)...2 Unlimted is an example here..but damn it..I won't sell the cd's..who knows what things will become collector items! But I haven't played the albums since about summer of '93 or so :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 14:49:34 -0800 hmmm... i also got the repeats.. but ive also been getting the replies to messages often before i get the original message... hmmmmm eric -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bluegirl Subject: Re: (mobility) Another Review and a few thoughts o Date: 31 Mar 1997 16:59:23 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 fishlips@ahbqs.com wrote: > With deadlines and all..I can understand..but I just don't see how I > could review an album after just one week(especially the ones that > don't catch me right from the start(MBM's STS and Moby's Ambient, for > example)...then there are the albums that I loved in the start..then as > I caught on..considered them "crap"(for lack of a better word).. crap I can relate to these sentiments. Often albums that end up being favorites of mine take quite a number of listens before i fully appreciate. & a lot of albums that i loved right off the bat eventually fade away... just something that i wanted to say *----*bluegirl*--------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cherilyn Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 16:00:43 -0700 same thing happened to me. it's a pain in the butt. cher At 02:31 PM 3/31/97 -0600, you wrote: >i got about 12msgs from Hypecadet in about 5minutes or less... & most of >them were repeats. whats the point of that. oh well, maybe he just >goofed >*----*bluegirl*------------------* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".xAQ_" Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > i also have been getting ALOT of copies of messages. i got the subliminal go > message 5 times today....hmmm....xaq? any insight? um, well, since you asked me, i noticed he has three "to" addresses. that may have had something to do with it... -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) can somebody tell me... Date: 31 Mar 1997 22:48:32 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-03-31 22:12:58 EST, you write: > hmmm... i also got the repeats.. but ive also been getting the replies > to messages often before i get the original message... hmmmmm > ok, i'm not the only one then...i recieve the responce to many messages as much as 3 or 4 days before i get the origional message...as well as the repeats of messages ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "halo" Subject: (mobility) Greetings! Date: 31 Mar 1997 21:47:04 -0800 Well, I've been on the list for about a month now, but I've been doing a lot of lurking .. I guess it's time to introduce myself .. here goes - I'm 17 and currently finishing high-school here in california, interests include music (techno, industrial, classical, and jazz) mountain biking, anime, and programming .. I currently own Rare: collected b-sides, move (single), EIW, EIW nonstop dj mix, and early underground. Other fav. artists include Orbital, the Prodigy, Daft Punk, and various other trance and techno artists peace! -- Scott Bruce ... "with the right tools, any rental car quickly becomes a convertable"