From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 01 Feb 1998 00:53:52 EST i was only stating what Moby said...i could care less tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) Opus III Date: 01 Feb 1998 02:02:58 -0600 (CST) On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Ryu wrote: > >Did anyone know about Moby's remix of Opus III's "I Talk To The Wind"? > > what is this on? and what has opus III been up to lately? i head that the singer is doing something new, but i don't know the name or when it's comming out...hmm...not much help i guess... -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 01 Feb 1998 04:42:59 -0700 Mark Reed wrote: > > "Open Up" by Leftfield Lydon was relaesed in nov 93. Moby did remix a > Lydon solo track "Grave Ride" but it was only on a 12" vinyl in the UK.. "Grave Ride" w/the Moby remix is also on John Lydon's album (both US & UK and I don't recommend buying it). I have a wave sample on a page of mine - I should replace it with a Real Audio sample but I'm too lazy. > Does anybody know where I can get hold of Moby's early singles.. I always recommend Mute at http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/bank/bank.htm - they're a bit casual at things but they're dependable and the prices are good. However, they won't have the early stuff from Instinct records. -- mailto:damian@xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~damian/new-moby.html#Audio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 01 Feb 1998 04:50:28 -0800 Damian wrote: > "Grave Ride" w/the Moby remix is also on John Lydon's album (both US & > UK and I don't recommend buying it). Hey, man, don't knock John Lydon's "Psycho's Path" CD. It's a great album! The fact that it features a remix by Moby is an added bonus (and it was actually the reason I bought the CD in the first place), but the entire album is awesome! You just haven't lived until you've experienced the song "Sun" at high volume on headphones. Don't be dissin' Johnny Rotten! Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Boland" Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 01 Feb 1998 09:43:16 PST i hope so, i like animal rights, but i like more of his electronic wonders better. hifi1 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." Date: 01 Feb 1998 14:52:37 -0600 I know it's going to happen everytime some one posts a review or interview from the web or a magazine. A music journalist is going to get bashed. He doesn't get it. He's clueless. He has no idea what he's talking about. He's got all the facts wrong. As some one who makes a good part of his living off writing about musicians and their work, I've learned to develop a pretty thick skin and I've gotten used to people disagreeing with me. But most music journalists I know are much more savy than readers give them credit for. Critics have to stay on top of new artists, new genres, and know how it all fits into pop music continuity (forgive me if I kind of cringe in using the word "history" to describe pop music). For all the ambiguity you accuse us of, It might help you to know that most editors are more interested in their writers describing what a record *sounds* like in a review rather than simply saying how good they thought it was. Our job is to help our readers make an informed decision about new music rather than recommendations. Every fan wants a reviewer to say their favorite artist's newest is the best thing since Sgt. Peppers or Pet Sounds. But the reviewer is not writing for the fan. He's writing for the person who's never heard of that musician, or is looking for something new. I have to say, I agree with the writer when he says "Go" is seminal, and I don't think he stole it from the Elektra press release. I know for me It was the first thing from Moby I heard, and it is one of his most enduring works. Early success + timeless appeal = seminal in my book. Now, I just re-read this message, and it is much angrier sounding than I meant it to be. I don't want to upset anyone. I just want to make a point. Maybe you expect too much from critics and music journalists. Don't hate me because I'm a writer, Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com) bigwig@ricochetmusic.com "I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce." -- Jimmy James, "News Radio" "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." -- Moby, musician. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Patterson Subject: (mobility) Lopez find Date: 01 Feb 1998 17:45:55 -0600 Just thought I'd let the list know about my find, Moby as Lopez; Why Can't it Stop is the title, just three songs, but vwery good as i listen to it right now. I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but does anyone else have this? \|||/ (o o) -----oo0-(_)-0oo----- Ben Patterson Northwestern University b-patterson2@nwu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StarsGoOut@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby in SF?/blur remix Date: 01 Feb 1998 18:34:26 EST hey everyone, i don't have very reliable access to the web, so i was wondering if there were any more concert dates for moby, specif. in the san francisco/ bay area? i figure if he's playing in san diego on the 6th, he might be doing other dates around the area.... also, for those who have heard it, what do you think of moby's remix of blur's "beetlebum"? (it's the minimal house mix, on the M.O.R. single). blur are planning a remix compilation for sale in japan only, of w/c moby may or may not be involved. Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zekee@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moby - Lydon colab Date: 01 Feb 1998 22:32:56 EST Right on Dan! You are da Man. Check out Johnny Lydon's Psycho's Path. From the Sex Pistols to Moby. Now there's personal growth. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) compilation cd Date: 01 Feb 1998 21:43:53 -0600 (CST) this is one of your final notices! you must have all orders for the compilaition cd postmarked by february 3 in order for them to be filled! for any and all info, please mail me: daviesa@uwplatt.edu andy gingerbread man "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: (mobility) Moby on senseless soundtrack Date: 01 Feb 1998 23:43:30 -0800 Moby is on the soundtrack to "Sensless" the new movie with David Spade. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 02 Feb 1998 10:04:12 -0600 Thank god At 05:34 PM 1/31/98 EST, you wrote: >MOBY has said he's began work on a new album and so far he doesn't have any >guitars on it. > >dj tripp > > > Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 02 Feb 1998 11:52:00 -0500 To each his own, but that's kinda closed minded isn't it? I think it just goes to show the extent of Moby's talents - he has a vast knowledge of all kinds of music and is extremely amazing at all his endeavors. There aren't very many artists at all who are so well rounded like that. It's easy to excel in one concentrated aspect of music, Moby excels in many. ---------- Thank god At 05:34 PM 1/31/98 EST, you wrote: >MOBY has said he's began work on a new album and so far he doesn't have any >guitars on it. > >dj tripp > > > Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 02 Feb 1998 11:20:57 -0600 Yah, I know. I just didn't have the time to say what I wanted, and that sort of summed it up. Moby is great and I am really glad that he has creativity and the guts(I'm sure his record company wasn't too happy) to put something like that out. I think if I were in his shoes (gym), I would too. I play guitar as well as keyboards and listen and write both punk and electronic. So I'm glad it made him happy to do it, but I'd prefer he stick to keys rather than strings. He doesn the elec thing better. At 11:52 AM 2/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >To each his own, but that's kinda closed minded isn't it? >I think it just goes to show the extent of Moby's talents - he has a >vast knowledge of all kinds of music and is extremely amazing at all his >endeavors. There aren't very many artists at all who are so well >rounded like that. It's easy to excel in one concentrated aspect of >music, Moby excels in many. > ---------- >From: Keith Forsythe >To: mobility@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! >Date: Monday, February 02, 1998 11:04AM > >Thank god >At 05:34 PM 1/31/98 EST, you wrote: >>MOBY has said he's began work on a new album and so far he doesn't have >any >>guitars on it. >> >>dj tripp >> >> >> >Keith Forsythe >keith@net66.com >kbforsyt@uiuc.edu > > > Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby - Lydon colab Date: 02 Feb 1998 12:44:32 -0800 >Right on Dan! You are da Man. Check out Johnny Lydon's Psycho's Path. From >the Sex Pistols to Moby. Now there's personal growth. Unfortunately it's been an implosive growth. Lydon had no credibility when he was with the Pistols and he has even less now. He's an absolute ass and working with the likes of Danny Saber, Moby, Leftfield & The Chems does nothing but expose him for the has-been he never should have had the opportunity to be. Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:00:04 -0500 just to add my two cents,,, i really like "animal rights", am rather disappointed to hear that moby's next one is non-guitar so far. he didn't mention lyrics in any of the recent interviews, and i really hope that just because he's not playing the guitar for it, that he will sing on some of the tracks. while i dont' always understand what he is saying, i like the way he says it. maybe he'll do a voodoo child companion album to this one and have that be thrash guitar! love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: (mobility) moby reactor Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:13:00 -0500 I think Moby and Juno Reactor should team up to make an album--juno does the electronics, and moby does the guitar and lyrics. That would be a great combination. Sort of like the tour they've been going on. It'd kick ass. Bill "dreamANALYZER" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) moby reactor Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:59:52 -0500 (EST) Right on. I saw a show in that tour--together they produce phenomenal energy. Rocked, out of my boat On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, William Turner Spencer Iii wrote: > I think Moby and Juno Reactor should team up to make an album--juno does the > electronics, and moby does the guitar and lyrics. That would be a great > combination. Sort of like the tour they've been going on. It'd kick ass. > > Bill "dreamANALYZER" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) moby reactor Date: 02 Feb 1998 15:59:52 -0500 (EST) Right on. I saw a show in that tour--together they produce phenomenal energy. Rocked, out of my boat On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, William Turner Spencer Iii wrote: > I think Moby and Juno Reactor should team up to make an album--juno does the > electronics, and moby does the guitar and lyrics. That would be a great > combination. Sort of like the tour they've been going on. It'd kick ass. > > Bill "dreamANALYZER" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kobalt@james.encomix.es Date: 02 Feb 1998 16:48:30 -0700 > http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/fotos.htm > > check them out! Hey, they look great!!! I almost can hear the sound!! :) Jonathan. -- 512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: (mobility) Obscure Moby Pic Date: 02 Feb 1998 22:26:24 -0800 It was certainly a bit disturbing and I didn't know that Moby was capable aging 30 years in one picture, but here goes anyway ;) http://niels.com/display.asp?image=moby01 Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) "Writing about music is like dancing about Date: 02 Feb 1998 21:20:12 -0700 At 02:52 PM 2/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >I know it's going to happen everytime some one posts a review or interview >from the web or a magazine. A music journalist is going to get bashed. >Our job is to help our readers make an >informed decision about new music rather than recommendations. > >Every fan wants a reviewer to say their favorite artist's newest is the best >thing since Sgt. Peppers <--Huhn? or Pet Sounds. <-- Who? >But the reviewer is not writing for >the fan. >He's writing for the person who's never heard of that musician, or >is looking for something new. (than he has to be a musician: see subject-line) >I have to say, I agree with the writer when he says "Go" is seminal, and I >don't think he stole it from the Elektra press release. I know for me It was >the first thing from Moby I heard, and it is one of his most enduring works. >Early success + timeless appeal = seminal in my book. I have my doubts about this word 'seminal'. In my dictionary it is either 'sperm', which i doubt is meant here, or it means 'still growing, not yet finished' .... "origine, creation" (Webster'sNew Collegiate); 'In Potence' i guess... Well if that is meant, it's not a very precise descripton of GO, because you could say this of almost every Moby creation, See all the Into the Blue releases... (3) It can also mean 'rudimentary', which is stopped in it's development, but potentially there' - like the male breasts... So it is not a good word to describe 'Go' as a song.... (maybe 'orgasm' would be something? but how to get that published?) (i forgot what ryu said, he said something about this ...?) >Now, I just re-read this message, and it is much angrier sounding than I >meant it to be. I don't want to upset anyone. I just want to make a point. >Maybe you expect too much from critics and music journalists. (this is very very true, we expect them to be fans) >Don't hate me because I'm a writer, >Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig No WAY we hate you man, finally you Spoke Up... I love you for that! And for being such a BIG Moby fan... Send me some reviews (really I mean it!) Keep up the good work, Kees, seminal editor n.b. Great! Terrific Subject-Line! ---------------------- "Watch him while he's eating, what is he doing? ...what is he doing, while he's eating?" http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Lopez find Date: 02 Feb 1998 21:20:26 -0700 At 05:45 PM 2/1/98 -0600, you wrote: >Just thought I'd let the list know about my find, Moby as Lopez; Why Can't >it Stop is the title, just three songs, but vwery good as i listen to it >right now. I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but does anyone else >have this? > \|||/ > (o o) > -----oo0-(_)-0oo----- > >Ben Patterson Awesome, i play it at least twice a week now for three months! ---------------------- "Watch him while he's eating, what is he doing? ...what is he doing, while he's eating?" http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 03 Feb 1998 00:09:35 -0600 (CST) L A S T D A Y T O G E T Y O U R C O M P I L A T I O N O R D E R I N T H E M A I L ! ! ! today, february 3, is the last day you can have your mail postmarked by in order to get a mobility list compilation cd. if there are extenuating circumstances, mail me and i will see...most likely there will be no exceptions. i also might have some cds left over once all orders are filled. i will determine at a later date what to do with those if and when that happens. thanks again to everyone for their patience, support, understanding, help, suggestions, music, art, cash, checks, and whatnot. please continue to be patient with me as i try to get these last orders out as soon as i can! andy gingerbread man "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #75 Date: 03 Feb 1998 01:26:40 +0000 > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:22:35 -0600 > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > From: John Turpin > Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #75 > Reply-to: mobility@lists.xmission.com > >BTW2, I just thought of something funny (Orb fans will get it, > >at least). Wouldn't it be nice if Moby were remixed by the Orb? > >If they collaborated, the release could be called "Morby"! =-) > > You know, I've always thought one of the more mellow tracks on _Early > Underground_ (can't remember which one now) sounded like one of the Orb's > more upbeat tracks, minus the wacked-out samples... > > -- > C The C.O.D. John Turpin > | / \ Ra.MsState.Edu> > O D > > > the Orb is not wack :( Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jwz109@psu.edu Date: 03 Feb 1998 01:23:05 -0700 this info to you about the source of the sample from "bring back my happiness": So I buy these 2 CDs the other day, titled Super Rare Disco Vol. 1 & 2. Put on Vol. 1, and third song in ("Touch & Go," by the excellently named Ecstasy, Passion and Pain featuring Barbara Roy) I hear this very familiar shout. I double-take, look up and rewind the CD. Nope, I was right. A very familiar female voice screaming: "IT'S HARD TO LET YOU GOOO!!!!" My friend, I have found the source of Moby's "Bring Back My Happiness" sample. And it just came out a few months ago. Please post this on the Moby board. Michaelangelo Matos (also at: spongiex@hotmail.com) * * * john2660@maroon.tc.umn.edu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jct1@Ra.MsState.Edu Date: 03 Feb 1998 02:39:40 -0700 >at least). Wouldn't it be nice if Moby were remixed by the Orb? >If they collaborated, the release could be called "Morby"! =-) You know, I've always thought one of the more mellow tracks on _Early Underground_ (can't remember which one now) sounded like one of the Orb's more upbeat tracks, minus the wacked-out samples... -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SugarK97@aol.com Date: 03 Feb 1998 03:12:26 -0700 > > It is indeed *the* Moby. Playing in San Diego....How stoked am I? > Could somebody please give me some information on this show? Is it going to be 21 and up like it was last time he was in town? Any help would be wonderful. Thanks Kathryn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG GOLDBERG Subject: (mobility) cm Date: 03 Feb 1998 22:28:27 -0500 Greetings, This is an aside, but I know that the Crystal Method will be playing in Norwalk, CT at the end of the month. Does anyone know if there are any planned New York City Dates? Please respond to my personal email if possible, as I am subscribed to the Mobility Digest. Thanks, -CDG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: red5five@cybergal.com Subject: (mobility) Hymn single Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:01:17 -0500 (EST) In my quest to build a Moby CD library - I find myself in posession of 2 of the same disk... I have an extra Hymn (This Is My Dream) single if anyone is interested... just let me know (email me - not the list) - and we'll talk... Take care one and all! Q: If you could be any animal, what kind would you be? A: You already are an animal. (D. Coupland, Microserfs) Get free personalized email at http://www.lycosemail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avner80@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Jewish? Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:32:06 EST hi craig, r u related to any goldbrgs in NYC? are u jewish? we might be the only jews onthe list! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avner80@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:30:53 EST hey, i think i want one, but whats on it ?????// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:41:54 -0500 (EST) I want one--what do I have to do? --marjie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Hymn single Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:04:42 -0600 I am very interested in the cd... let me know what you want for the cd and shipping rob skipworth red5five@cybergal.com wrote: > In my quest to build a Moby CD library - I find myself in posession of 2 of the same disk... I have an extra Hymn (This Is My Dream) single if anyone is interested... just let me know (email me - not the list) - and we'll talk... > > Take care one and all! > > Q: If you could be any animal, what kind would you be? > A: You already are an animal. > > (D. Coupland, Microserfs) > -------------------------------------------------------- > Get free personalized email at http://www.lycosemail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 03 Feb 1998 14:35:23 -0600 (CST) the compilation cd consists of remixes, covers, and dj mixes of moby songs all done by list members. it was produced and distributed by list members as well. here is a track listing and the needed info to order, although, your order needs to be postmarked by today in order for you to get a cd (deadline is today): unloved symphony move emptiness EYTM choose your jesus go james bond theme god moving... hymn " T H A N K S " O R D E R I N G I N F O . . . Thank you for your interest and support! Send your e-mail address, postal mailing address, and $10 (US) to: Andrew Davies (Mobility) 1 University Plaza 105 Porter Hall Platteville, WI 53818 I know it is a little weird to send cash in the mail, so you could send a check, too, if you want. Sorry that the price is a bit more than originally quoted, but I neglected to add in the CD insert's copies to the estimate. The $10 you are sending will be used only for buying the CD, color copies of the inserts, and shipping and handling. "Thanks" again! andy gingerbread man "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man!" p.s. remember, if your order is not postmarked feb 3 or sooner, it will be returned to you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Robinson" Subject: (mobility) DAVIESA ... money's in the mail Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:17:12 GMT ALLO ? ? Ok. the moby Cd . When will I get it? Thanks The Finn ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Crantasma@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Jewish? Date: 03 Feb 1998 16:55:30 EST This has nothing to do with Moby, but I just wanted to add that I, too, am Jewish. :) Funny that the first response I have ever made on this list is about being Jewish... *Sarah* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 03 Feb 1998 21:40:49 -0700 At 03:00 PM 2/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >just to add my two cents,,, > >maybe he'll do a voodoo child companion album to this one and >have that be thrash guitar! > >love, >ryu He said in an interview (published on this List) that he would do a seperate album with guitar(s) under a different NAME, (september `98) but (ryu?) why would it be Voodoo Child? - - - p.s. Is there anyone out there who can copy dj spooky's machine gun-mix? (i heard it yesterday for the first, i thought i was dreaming...!) ---------------------- "Watch him while he's eating, what is he doing? ...what is he doing, while he's eating?" http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 04 Feb 1998 00:00:02 -0500 >He said in an interview (published on this List) >that he would do a seperate album with guitar(s) >under a different NAME, (september `98) >but (ryu?) why would it be Voodoo Child? i guess it doesn't have to be...just that last time he did big guitars as moby, and small electronics as voodoo child. so why not just swap? love, personally, i'd like to see some more ryu trophy singles....sorenti anyone? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:29 -0700 At 02:35 PM 2/3/98 -0600, you wrote: > >I know it is a little weird to send cash in the mail, >so you could send a check, too, if you want. Sorry >that the price is a bit more than originally quoted, >but I neglected to add in the CD insert's copies to >the estimate. The $10 you are sending will be used >only for buying the CD, color copies of the inserts, >and shipping and handling. > >"Thanks" again! > >andy > >gingerbread man Andy! Why don't you give this 'work' to CDNOW? Just give it to'm, they are invented for it...! "Bobbah-lobbah-lobalaweedd!" <--Chris Farlowe (Colosseum) ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:25 -0700 At 02:30 PM 2/3/98 EST, you wrote: >hey, i think i want one, but whats on it >?????// Lucky YOU-you... i'm just playing (with) it... it's RYU freaking a beast,,, you might think it's Moby freaking ryu, but it ain't (1) it's Ethan Griffin, freakin' Movin' Move (where did he Move?) (2) it's Chrysallis totally Empty (3) it's Andy Gingerbread if you CAN CAN...it feels like i need some more, (4) it's Daryllllll my ONLY Jesus 5:01 (Jimmy Swaggert on vocals) it's Go adrenaline mix by E [6] it's (7) James Bond Thm pfmd by andrew davies "thanks" it's HIMSELF moving over the waters....as if you were there! (eight) (9) is absurd, i want to WARN you all for Number 9, not only one of the best songs of the Beatles, but surely the BEST song of this CD: THANKS, today is the third of february, by the way... thanks, (for bandwidth) kees ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:26 -0700 At 02:41 PM 2/3/98 -0500, you wrote: >I want one--what do I have to do? > >--marjie you make the gingerbreadman happy & hyper TODAY! ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Jewish? Date: 04 Feb 1998 04:24:25 -0700 At 02:32 PM 2/3/98 EST, you wrote: >hi craig, r u related to any goldbrgs in NYC? are u jewish? we might be the >only jews onthe list! cg has a digest subscription, he said: "mail me off-topic" but this, does this mean you don-wonna tok to us 'normals'? (don't ye think Clinton is a little bit fucked-up by the israeleans?) mail off-list ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) comp Date: 04 Feb 1998 09:14:51 -0600 (CST) Andy! Why don't you give this 'work' to CDNOW? Just give it to'm, they are invented for it...! "Bobbah-lobbah-lobalaweedd!" <--Chris Farlowe (Colosseum) ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ the original cocept of the compilation is that it would be very rare and only for list members. i had been asked by 2 record label about ordering it, one wanted to know wholesale prices! i also had no copyrights on these, and i didn't want to take any chances on legal action from elektra, instinct, mute, trophy, or anyone else. andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason(INRI)" Subject: Re: (mobility) Animal Rights 2! Date: 04 Feb 1998 12:34:13 -0500 -----Original Message----- >>He said in an interview (published on this List) >>that he would do a seperate album with guitar(s) >>under a different NAME, (september `98) >>but (ryu?) why would it be Voodoo Child? my guess is that voodoo child is a jimi hendrix song..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) ME!!!!! Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:52:27 -0800 (PST) Hey peeps!!! I'm new to the list and I just wanted to let everyone know who I am. My name is Paul Simpson, I'm 14, I live in Hamden Connecticut, and (obviously) I'm a huge Moby fan. I started listening to Moby about a year ago. The first Moby song I heard was That's When.. on my local "modern rock" station. Then I heard his song on Schoolhouse Rock. Then Iheard some of his techno stuff. Over the last year I've really been getting into techno music, so I've been listeing to Moby a LOT lately. Last summer, I found a tape at the Goodwill store that was marked "Moby:Everything Is Wrong" and I had heard great reviews for it so I bought it. I was totally amazed when I listened to it. As an added bonus, whoever dubbed the tape stuck the first 10 songs from Early Underground on side 2, so that was my intro. to early moby. I bought ILTS the week it came out, and I just bought Rare/Go a few weeks ago. I think it's tha bomb. I guess you could say I'm a convert Moby hardcore or something. I unfortunately missed his date in New Haven at Toad's recently :( Me and my bud Spaz wanted to go, but we didn't have $ or a ride. (Blahh) My fave moby songs are UHF (aka UHF3) Voodoo Child, God Moving..., Next Is the E (Club Mix), Thousand, and the Analog and Original mixes of GO. It's hard to pick faves b-cuz all Moby I've heard is great. My other fave groups are Chembros (my fave, even though they don't have 1/2 Moby's talent) Orbital, Aphex, Blur, Nirvana, Prodigy, lots of other techno groups, Liz Phair, Cornershop, Goldie, some rap groups (Fugees, KRS1, De La Soul, Tribe, Wu-Tang), old 311, old Foo Fighters, Fatboy Slim, some Sublime, Melissa Etheridge, Bush, some No Doubt, classical, jazz, blues, folk, world music, I could go on for years... What I DON'T Like is: Country, Spice Girls, Hanson, Oasis, Puff Daddy, other crappy losers like them. My favorite animals are guinea pigs (EEEEEEEEEP!!!) I have 4 of them in my house (mine's name is Buddy he's an albino, he's cute, he squeals a lot, EEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) My fave tv shows:The Simpson's (duh, it's my last name) South Park(except the Xmas one), AMP(except they never play Moby :( and lots of shows on MTV, and M2(they do play Moby :o) I have a homepage: you can vote for fave bands, CDs, etc. Bookmark it I update frequently... My email is I am Paul Bye yall >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) mo' me Date: 04 Feb 1998 14:57:34 -0800 (PST) Oh yeah... Yahoo has a trnscript of a Moby chat...do a search on Moby, when it says artist/electronica or something, click ther, if you never saw it b4 bye >>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) mp3 Players Date: 04 Feb 1998 20:46:22 -0600 Hey Gang, Someone posted the link to a *.mp3 file for a remix for First Cool Hive. I downloaded it and then discovered I have no *.mp3 player installed on my computer. Anybody have any recommendations where I can get one off the web. Please respond privately. Click on the little blue line below. Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com) bigwig@ricochetmusic.com "I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce." -- Jimmy James, "News Radio" "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." -- Moby, musician. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) moby rebroadcast on feb 4 Date: 04 Feb 1998 22:08:23 -0600 (CST) hey everyone! write to liveconcerts.com and tell them they need to archive the moby concert they played on the 4th! it was from the chicago show! they just might actually do it! that would be great! then you could tape it and have it to listen to forever and ever! andy gingerbread man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) moby rebroadcast on feb 4 Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:20:39 -0700 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > hey everyone! write to liveconcerts.com and tell them they need to archive > the moby concert they played on the 4th! it was from the chicago show! > they just might actually do it! that would be great! then you could tape > it and have it to listen to forever and ever! Great idea! What is their address? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) feb 4 rebroadcast Date: 04 Feb 1998 22:27:56 -0600 (CST) > hey everyone! write to liveconcerts.com and tell them they need to archive > the moby concert they played on the 4th! it was from the chicago show! > they just might actually do it! that would be great! then you could tape > it and have it to listen to forever and ever! Great idea! What is their address? the address to write to is: themanager@liveconcerts.com tell them you want them to archive the feb 4 rebroadcast of the moby show from chicago! andy gingerbread man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Primetime Live played Moby Date: 04 Feb 1998 21:39:56 -0700 My brother was just watching Primetime Live on ABC, and says that before going to a commercial break, they played Moby's "Alone" in the background for about ten seconds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) mp3 Players Date: 04 Feb 1998 22:49:11 -0600 MP3 Players- Winamp is the best one I've seen you can get it at www.winamp.com check out the plug ins..... they do some incredible light shows with the music Rob Brad Caviness wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Someone posted the link to a *.mp3 file for a remix for First Cool Hive. I > downloaded it and then discovered I have no *.mp3 player installed on my > computer. Anybody have any recommendations where I can get one off the web. > Please respond privately. Click on the little blue line below. > > Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig > Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com) > bigwig@ricochetmusic.com > "I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce." > -- Jimmy James, "News Radio" > "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." > -- Moby, musician. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik selke Subject: (mobility) mp3 players Date: 05 Feb 1998 00:01:07 -0500 (EST) well... here is the breakdown of what I think are the best MP3 players around... unix - Amp mac - MacAmp win - WinAmp notice a trentd? e erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/ Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/ "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V. But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked" "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pedersen, Trond Erik" Subject: RE: (mobility) mp3 players Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:48:00 +0100 Now that everybody has been enlighten regarding MP3-players perhaps someone can post some Moby MP3's so that we may evaluate our WinAmps a bit better ;) T. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: E-concert (was Re: (mobility) feb 4 rebroadcast) Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:51:46 +0100 On Wed, Feb 04, 1998 at 10:27:56PM -0600, DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > tell them you want them to archive the feb 4 rebroadcast of the moby show from > chicago! How it was ? I tried to stay here at office to listen to it, but with my CET time-slice, it was at 2:30 AM, and I felt somewhat sleepy last night :( Jonathan. -- 512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Brubaker Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)] Date: 05 Feb 1998 09:58:26 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3B5C4463189F5F56FA030998 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------3B5C4463189F5F56FA030998 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from x86.webcom.com (x86.webcom.com [209.1.28.59]) by camel23.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA30683; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (s1000e2.webcom.com [209.1.28.39]) by x86.webcom.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA10437; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:39:32 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Everyone, This has nothing to do with JG, but please read it. You'll be glad you did. Sincerely, Christi Bradford ---------- Forwarded message ---------- "\"Ate\" Cynthia Grace Balanz" , Anna Jane Ylagan Eliseo , Kuya Andrew , "Evelyn \"Dragon Fly\" Maximo" , "Donella \"Big-D\" Bernardo" , "Melina \"Mel\" Bello" , "CUMBRE -- Amy \"Hello\" Hahn" , "Amy \"Sweetie\" Soyong" , "April \"Raymond's woman\" Shin" , "Audrey \"Online\" Hong" , "Charito \"Cheetos\" Pascua" , "Christi \"Omniscient\" Bradford" , "\"Mr. Ed\" Hyatt" , "Eubert \"Q-Bert\" Querubin" , "Eugene \"King Bam-Bam\" Cabanan" , "Gina \"Computer Luv\" Lam" , "James \"Bad-ass\" Landas" , Joyce Wang , juanita jimenez , "Linda \"Tall\" Truong" , Lydia Du , 'Mommy' Mike Nondarakse , "\"Nasty\" Nilam Patel" , "Rich \"Body-Builder\" Lopez" , "\"Tenderhearted\" Tina Cho" , "\"Tommy-'Boy' Hilfiger\" L." , "William \"BMR-man\" Cheng" , "Yunhee \"Pick-Me-Up\" Park" , "Joseph \"Jofus\" Pascua" , "Anthony \"TonyToniTone\" Maximo" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Joan Aquino , Rogelio Arreola , Joselyn Bermudez , Atour Bouza , Linda Bui , Sara Dai , Desiree B Caluza , Kim Do , Wendy Duanes , Tsob Fang , Tran Han , Tran Han , Dong Hinh , Mai Le , Jennifer Lizarraga , Chrystal Manore , Mike Chough , Monica Moise , Nelson , John Ninofranco , Tam-Huong Pham , Hanh Phan , Rosalyn Remulla , Jerel Salviejo , Prachin Tiv , Tina Tran , Jennifer Villasenor ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: aguillon@uci.edu, mchabre@uci.edu, chent@uci.edu, gchavosh@uci.edu, prystic@uci.edu, damon@uci.edu, tlelling@uci.edu, markjham@uci.edu, dharter@uci.edu, jghenri@uci.edu, deidre@uci.edu, dkupper@uci.edu, tlmacedo@uci.edu, cjmarsha@uci.edu, jmlanda@uci.edu, jmankin@uci.edu, tera@uci.edu, jspatton@uci.edu, rrussell@uci.edu, jstimson@uci.edu, tavander@uci.edu, wacko@uci.edu, criste@uci.edu, mvaldez@uci.edu, vborjas@uci.edu, kldo@uci.edu, clancast@uci.edu, lvasquez@uci.edu, richardc@uci.edu, d4garcia@uci.edu, j3taylor@uci.edu, joeyyy@uci.edu, nmnixon@uci.edu, elirojas@uci.edu On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Desiree Mallory wrote: > >X-Sender: ovannost@e4e.oac.uci.edu > > >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) > > >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:50:51 -0800 > > >To: lmaestas@uci.edu, cmccormi@uci.edu, scloudhs@uci.edu, lebaker@uci.edu, > > > jconner@uci.edu, setotten@uci.edu, dmallory@uci.edu, DPECORAR@uci.edu, > > > rladams@uci.edu, kcweber@ucdavis.edu, gbirkhol@uci.edu, > > > osharon1@juno.com, ChuckH1063@aol.com > > >From: Ollie Van Nostrand < > > >Subject: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU > > > DID! > > > > > > > > > TO: MASSAOL@aol.com > > > FROM: GatesBeta@microsoft.com > > > ATTACH: Tracklog@microsoft.com/Track883432/~TraceActive/On.html > > > Hello Everyone > > > And thank you for signing up for my Beta Email Tracking Application > > >or (BETA) for short. My name is Bill Gates. Here at Microsoft we have just > > >compiled an e-mail tracing program that tracks everyone to whom this > > >message is > > >forwarded to. It does this through an unique IP (Internet Protocol) address > > >logbook database. We are experimenting with this and need your help. > > >Forward this to everyone you know and if it reaches 1000 people everyone > > >on the list you will receive $1000 and a copy of Windows98 at my > > >expense.Enjoy. > > > Note: Duplicate entries will not be counted. You will be notified byemail > > > with further instructions once this email has reached 1000 people. > > >Windows98 will not be shipped unitl it has been released to the general > > >public. > > > Your friend, > > > Bill Gates & The Microsoft Development Team. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=========================== > > >Ollie Van Nostrand > > >Assistant Dean > > >School of the Arts > > >=========================== > > >University of California, Irvine > > >300 Arts > > >Irvine, CA 92697-2775 > > >(714) 824-5078 > > >(714) 824-2450 (fax) > > > > > > > >
********************************* > > 8080,0000,8080Desiree M. Mallory > > Director, Operations & Marketing > > School of the Arts > > ********************************* > > University of California, Irvine > > 300 Arts > > Irvine, CA 92697-2775 > > Phone (714) 824-2397 > > FAX (714) 824-2450 > > dmallory@uci.edu > > 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.arts.uci.edu > >
> --------------3B5C4463189F5F56FA030998-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Brubaker Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)] Date: 05 Feb 1998 10:01:19 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6828F439825E0A054124A5D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------6828F439825E0A054124A5D1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from x86.webcom.com (x86.webcom.com [209.1.28.59]) by camel23.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA30683; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (s1000e2.webcom.com [209.1.28.39]) by x86.webcom.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA10437; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:39:32 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Everyone, This has nothing to do with JG, but please read it. You'll be glad you did. Sincerely, Christi Bradford ---------- Forwarded message ---------- "\"Ate\" Cynthia Grace Balanz" , Anna Jane Ylagan Eliseo , Kuya Andrew , "Evelyn \"Dragon Fly\" Maximo" , "Donella \"Big-D\" Bernardo" , "Melina \"Mel\" Bello" , "CUMBRE -- Amy \"Hello\" Hahn" , "Amy \"Sweetie\" Soyong" , "April \"Raymond's woman\" Shin" , "Audrey \"Online\" Hong" , "Charito \"Cheetos\" Pascua" , "Christi \"Omniscient\" Bradford" , "\"Mr. Ed\" Hyatt" , "Eubert \"Q-Bert\" Querubin" , "Eugene \"King Bam-Bam\" Cabanan" , "Gina \"Computer Luv\" Lam" , "James \"Bad-ass\" Landas" , Joyce Wang , juanita jimenez , "Linda \"Tall\" Truong" , Lydia Du , 'Mommy' Mike Nondarakse , "\"Nasty\" Nilam Patel" , "Rich \"Body-Builder\" Lopez" , "\"Tenderhearted\" Tina Cho" , "\"Tommy-'Boy' Hilfiger\" L." , "William \"BMR-man\" Cheng" , "Yunhee \"Pick-Me-Up\" Park" , "Joseph \"Jofus\" Pascua" , "Anthony \"TonyToniTone\" Maximo" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Joan Aquino , Rogelio Arreola , Joselyn Bermudez , Atour Bouza , Linda Bui , Sara Dai , Desiree B Caluza , Kim Do , Wendy Duanes , Tsob Fang , Tran Han , Tran Han , Dong Hinh , Mai Le , Jennifer Lizarraga , Chrystal Manore , Mike Chough , Monica Moise , Nelson , John Ninofranco , Tam-Huong Pham , Hanh Phan , Rosalyn Remulla , Jerel Salviejo , Prachin Tiv , Tina Tran , Jennifer Villasenor ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: aguillon@uci.edu, mchabre@uci.edu, chent@uci.edu, gchavosh@uci.edu, prystic@uci.edu, damon@uci.edu, tlelling@uci.edu, markjham@uci.edu, dharter@uci.edu, jghenri@uci.edu, deidre@uci.edu, dkupper@uci.edu, tlmacedo@uci.edu, cjmarsha@uci.edu, jmlanda@uci.edu, jmankin@uci.edu, tera@uci.edu, jspatton@uci.edu, rrussell@uci.edu, jstimson@uci.edu, tavander@uci.edu, wacko@uci.edu, criste@uci.edu, mvaldez@uci.edu, vborjas@uci.edu, kldo@uci.edu, clancast@uci.edu, lvasquez@uci.edu, richardc@uci.edu, d4garcia@uci.edu, j3taylor@uci.edu, joeyyy@uci.edu, nmnixon@uci.edu, elirojas@uci.edu On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Desiree Mallory wrote: > >X-Sender: ovannost@e4e.oac.uci.edu > > >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) > > >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:50:51 -0800 > > >To: lmaestas@uci.edu, cmccormi@uci.edu, scloudhs@uci.edu, lebaker@uci.edu, > > > jconner@uci.edu, setotten@uci.edu, dmallory@uci.edu, DPECORAR@uci.edu, > > > rladams@uci.edu, kcweber@ucdavis.edu, gbirkhol@uci.edu, > > > osharon1@juno.com, ChuckH1063@aol.com > > >From: Ollie Van Nostrand < > > >Subject: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU > > > DID! > > > > > > > > > TO: MASSAOL@aol.com > > > FROM: GatesBeta@microsoft.com > > > ATTACH: Tracklog@microsoft.com/Track883432/~TraceActive/On.html > > > Hello Everyone > > > And thank you for signing up for my Beta Email Tracking Application > > >or (BETA) for short. My name is Bill Gates. Here at Microsoft we have just > > >compiled an e-mail tracing program that tracks everyone to whom this > > >message is > > >forwarded to. It does this through an unique IP (Internet Protocol) address > > >logbook database. We are experimenting with this and need your help. > > >Forward this to everyone you know and if it reaches 1000 people everyone > > >on the list you will receive $1000 and a copy of Windows98 at my > > >expense.Enjoy. > > > Note: Duplicate entries will not be counted. You will be notified byemail > > > with further instructions once this email has reached 1000 people. > > >Windows98 will not be shipped unitl it has been released to the general > > >public. > > > Your friend, > > > Bill Gates & The Microsoft Development Team. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=========================== > > >Ollie Van Nostrand > > >Assistant Dean > > >School of the Arts > > >=========================== > > >University of California, Irvine > > >300 Arts > > >Irvine, CA 92697-2775 > > >(714) 824-5078 > > >(714) 824-2450 (fax) > > > > > > > >
********************************* > > 8080,0000,8080Desiree M. Mallory > > Director, Operations & Marketing > > School of the Arts > > ********************************* > > University of California, Irvine > > 300 Arts > > Irvine, CA 92697-2775 > > Phone (714) 824-2397 > > FAX (714) 824-2450 > > dmallory@uci.edu > > 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.arts.uci.edu > >
> --------------6828F439825E0A054124A5D1-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) SPAM Date: 05 Feb 1998 08:10:52 -0800 (PST) HEY BILL GATES!!! STOP SPAMMING US!!! >>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)] Date: 05 Feb 1998 12:14:22 -0500 (EST) clearly this is a piece of shite intended to clog the internet and whoever made it up is laughing at us as we speak. I got the same one about three months ago--am I 1000 dollars more laden in my pockets? Hells no. I think we should hearby forbid lame forwards from mobility. Am I wrong in asking this? --marjorana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Rowe" Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)] Date: 05 Feb 1998 12:35:47 -0800 It's Bullshit. Number one Bill Gates does not send out personal e-mail and if he did their would not be spelling errors. Second if microsoft was truly developeing a system toi track e-mails they wouldn't tell the public Ken -----Original Message----- YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)] >clearly this is a piece of shite intended to clog the internet and >whoever made it up is laughing at us as we speak. I got >the same one about three months ago--am I 1000 dollars more laden in my >pockets? Hells no. I think >we should hearby forbid lame forwards from mobility. Am I wrong in asking >this? > >--marjorana > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)] Date: 05 Feb 1998 11:53:54 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Marjorana Karathanasis wrote: > clearly this is a piece of shite intended to clog the internet and > whoever made it up is laughing at us as we speak. I got > the same one about three months ago--am I 1000 dollars more laden in my > pockets? Hells no. I think > we should hearby forbid lame forwards from mobility. Am I wrong in asking > this? i also got this a while back. i hate them and i wish that people would be a bit wiser and realise that these things are just a waste of time. i never read them and would NEVER send them to someone else. come on... also, is your name really marjorana karathanasis? wow! neat-o! later, -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) Thanks a heap! Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:13:01 -0600 Hey Everyone, Thanks a million for the *.mp3 player recommendations. They were almost unanimously for WinAmp, which I downloaded and installed and works brilliantly. In fact, it's given me the bug to start using my heretofor unused web space to encode post a weekly *mp3 track and rotate them out from my collection of rare and nifty materials (lotsa Moby, don't worry). So, Now I guess I need to locate a *.mp3 encoder as well. Hmmm. Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com) bigwig@ricochetmusic.com "I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce." -- Jimmy James, "News Radio" "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." -- Moby, musician. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID!] Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:48:45 -0700 Hello, As I'm sure all of you are aware, forwarding something like this to the mailing list without my approval is in direct violation of the rules that have been set up. Most people that participate in mailing lists are aware that this is a common rule. If anyone is ever unsure of whether or not an email belongs on this list - ask first. Otherwise, it is grounds for removal. > THE GOLDEN RULES > ---------------- > > 3. Try to keep messages relevant to the list's topic (no general > advertisements, "warnings" about viruses, chain letters, and so > forth). Polls that are being conducted should be headed by one > individual who collects the responses and publishes them to the list. > The list manager has final say on whether a topic is welcome on > the list; please do your best to follow his guidance. Just a friendly reminder from the Church of Mobility. (: -- owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) [Fwd: Fw: MICROSOFT WIN98&$1000!!!!! PLEASE READ! YOULL BE GLAD YOU DID! (fwd)] Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:05:12 -0500 (EST) yeah, it is my full name. My dad is from Greece. I was quite the spelling bee champ as a child. -marjorana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) Re: free Win 98 ? Date: 05 Feb 1998 17:38:24 -0600 >Hi Everyone, > This has nothing to do with JG, but please read it. You'll be >glad you did. The Win98 giveaway is an obvious fraud. Please keep trash like this off our list. -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 05 Feb 1998 17:42:11 -0600 >(9) is absurd, i want to WARN you all for Number 9, not only one of the best >songs of the Beatles, >but surely the BEST song of this CD: THANKS, >today is the third of february, by the way... > >thanks, > >(for bandwidth) > >kees Switch to decaf, or ritallin, or something man! -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: (mobility) new comer Date: 05 Feb 1998 16:22:42 PST hey my name is (screen name) is evil ninja (taken from moby hope he doesnt mind) my moby collection consits of -ambient -early underground -moby -everything is wrong -move -mix and remix -into the blue single -into the blue remixes -rare colection -animal rights (import 2cd set bonus cd little idiot) -..reach for revolver single -i like to score -voodoo child the end of everything -mixmag collection vol2 as you can see i am ahuge fan of moby and all his pseudo names i once had the chance to go to his concert in washington dc but my ride fell through i was so pissed off. for weeks some other bands i like are aphex twins, meat beat manifesto,radiohead,nine inch nails(big time),our lady peace,orbital, marilyn manson, psychotica, deftones, korn, prick,pig, skold,skinny puppy to wrap it up ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JadenX@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Lopez offer and mad pulls Date: 05 Feb 1998 23:17:50 EST Hey everyone. My three day music shopping fest is over. When the smoke cleared, I came up with 25 new CD's and some nice treats. Found the Hymn Vinyl US promo 12" with those super phat mixes for 4.99. Also found an extra Lopez Why Can't It Stop? (CDTROPHY2). I will sell it for $10 US dollars total (w/s&h). Email me privately for it. Also found ETYTM US 3-trk promo for 2.99. Also got The Story So Far, Futurythms, and many other "electronic" CD's. That's about it, oh, whoever watns to go to the Metro to see Fatboy Slim (The Chi-Moby connection?) on March 3 (Tues.) for FREE let me know. I am deftly going and the more the merrier. BTW, BT is opening for Crystal Method at HOB on the 28. I would go but I got tix for the DICEMAN. Peace out. -Carmen B. "Be careful with that thing, it's stolen." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik selke Subject: Re: (mobility) COMPILATION Date: 06 Feb 1998 00:25:29 -0500 (EST) Revoluntion 9 is a cool, but weird song. I think it has to be one of the most SAMPLED songs around... (i could pick out many myself) e erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/ Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/ "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V. But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked" "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move" On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, John Turpin wrote: > >(9) is absurd, i want to WARN you all for Number 9, not only one of the best > >songs of the Beatles, > >but surely the BEST song of this CD: THANKS, > >today is the third of february, by the way... > > > >thanks, > > > >(for bandwidth) > > > >kees > > Switch to decaf, or ritallin, or something man! > > -- > C The C.O.D. John Turpin > | / \ Ra.MsState.Edu> > O D > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Puffy Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:54:10 EST someone said they don't like Puff Daddy. Now i know this is off the list subject but i'm gonna go out on a line here, but Puff Daddy has some serious talent. He makes great music, and SOME of his lyrics are ok. Just my opinion i could be wrong, but then again, everything is anyway... tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:06:31 -0500 (EST) i don't think redoing other people's songs is any example of talent. if he had some real talent he could at least write one song that didn't contain a sample. don't get me wrong, there is nothing bad about sampling, but maybe he should try to create something of his own. sorry there is nothing about moby. :) i just had to respond to this. cookypuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spacecat@spideyweb.net (Rick Ackerson) Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 06 Feb 1998 03:07:52 PST >someone said they don't like Puff Daddy. Now i know this is off the list >subject but i'm gonna go out on a line here, but Puff Daddy has some serious >talent. He makes great music, and SOME of his lyrics are ok. Just my opinion i >could be wrong, but then again, everything is anyway... I don't think Puffy has much talent. His songs aren't that bad, but most of the ones that I have heard are based on old songs that have already been hits. It makes me wonder if he could make a good original song if he wanted to. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:12:37 EST i guess i'm just biased to music that gets redone with some exiting new flair! look at Moby, he samples lots of stuff, hell ,all techno was at the beginning was samples. Rap is just a slower, more mainstream version of techno. The only thing i don't like about rap is the fact that all the music is the same. Puffy has a very unique sound when so few do. as does Moby. tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik selke Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 06 Feb 1998 16:56:05 -0500 (EST) I think there is a clear difference between sampling lots of stuff and making original work (like moby) or sampling and overdubing so much that you do a "90's" take on the old song. Its gone far beyond sampling, its gotten down to imitation. When i first saw Puffy, I thought he was doing his own "wierd al" thing - and when I found out he was serious - I was in shock, and quite disgusted. I have nothing against rap - but I don't think that what Puff is doing is music, and I think it discredits rap, as well as give it terrible stereotypes. Unique maybe, original, hardly. If he is a good producer, then he should stick to that because his solo efforts only give me additional reason to stop watching MTV (sorry, I don't follow his work, expecially with B.I.G. whom I personally think is a disgusting character - its unfortunat he went out the way he did, I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but I was more than disgusted with the media hype over his death than the death of other celebs) erik erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/ Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/ "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V. But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked" "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move" On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 EvilNinja2@aol.com wrote: > i guess i'm just biased to music that gets redone with some exiting new flair! > look at Moby, he samples lots of stuff, hell ,all techno was at the beginning > was samples. Rap is just a slower, more mainstream version of techno. The only > thing i don't like about rap is the fact that all the music is the same. Puffy > has a very unique sound when so few do. as does Moby. > > tripp > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 06 Feb 1998 15:13:05 -0500 >i don't think redoing other people's songs is any example of talent. >sorry there is nothing about moby. :) >cookypuss OH but there is :) I'm assuming you think Moby has less talent w/ Animal Rights considering he redid(remade?) Revolver. Now while I haven't heard the original..I think Revolver is a great song. Just because a person/group covers a song..doesn't mean they're any less talented. Some examples? RevCo's version of Do You Think I'm Sexy..See the Virus 100 cd from Alternative Tentacles..groups like Nomeansno, Faith No More, L7, Sepultra, Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, and others recording their takes on Dead Kennedy songs...Then there's the Shut Up Kitty comp from Re-Constriction/Cargo Records...Your favorite "industrial" bands doing their takes on popular songs..KMFDM doing U2's Mysterious Ways, D.D.T doing Madonna's Vogue(imho..they do it better), A-Politiq doing PE's She Watch Channel Zero?!, Fleshhouse doing the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations, and many more...Last(but certainly not least) is Covered In Black from Cleopatra...It's an industrial tribute to AC/DC..Die Krupps does It's A Long Way To The Top...Pigface vs. Sheep On Drugs does a VERY interesting take on Back In Black..Sister Machine Gun does TNT(Chris is known to do a cover at every live show..)..and 16 Volt does Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep. As you can see..this is a very talented list of artists..are they less talented cuz they covered a song? I guess that's up to you to decide :) Ryan (who's seeing Consolidated tonight..woo hoo!) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik selke Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 06 Feb 1998 17:33:49 -0500 (EST) There is a BIG difference than making a cover of a single song - and putting out an album - where at least, if not more than 1/2 the songs are basically covers - Puffy is a cover act, nothing more, probobly less erik erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/ Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/ "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V. But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked" "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move" On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Ryan Taylor wrote: > OH but there is :) I'm assuming you think Moby has less talent w/ Animal > Rights considering he redid(remade?) Revolver. Now while I haven't heard > the original..I think Revolver is a great song. Just because a person/group > covers a song..doesn't mean they're any less talented. Some examples? > RevCo's version of Do You Think I'm Sexy..See the Virus 100 cd from > Alternative Tentacles..groups like Nomeansno, Faith No More, L7, Sepultra, > Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, and others recording their takes on Dead > Kennedy songs...Then there's the Shut Up Kitty comp from > Re-Constriction/Cargo Records...Your favorite "industrial" bands doing their > takes on popular songs..KMFDM doing U2's Mysterious Ways, D.D.T doing > Madonna's Vogue(imho..they do it better), A-Politiq doing PE's She Watch > Channel Zero?!, Fleshhouse doing the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations, and many > more...Last(but certainly not least) is Covered In Black from > Cleopatra...It's an industrial tribute to AC/DC..Die Krupps does It's A Long > Way To The Top...Pigface vs. Sheep On Drugs does a VERY interesting take on > Back In Black..Sister Machine Gun does TNT(Chris is known to do a cover at > every live show..)..and 16 Volt does Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep. > > As you can see..this is a very talented list of artists..are they less > talented cuz they covered a song? I guess that's up to you to decide :) > > Ryan (who's seeing Consolidated tonight..woo hoo!) > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu > Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 > > "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt > "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: (mobility) new stuff Date: 06 Feb 1998 20:54:23 PST hey have any of you heard of any new stuff from moby i heard that there is going to be a up coming singile and album but i dont know when or what it is called. off the note i think Puffy is a pretty good performer even though some of his most famous songs are coveres. but nowadays what band does not cover songs. My most favorite bands like nine inch nials have covered many of song. i went back to the original versions and compared them and i found that the covers i liked better. plus covers show what the artist is in to at that point in time. evil ninja ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ aim= evilninja6 email= ninfan87@hotmail.com i do not want this don't you tell me how i feel you do not know just how i feel -nine inch nails- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason(INRI)" Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:01:33 -0500 >cover songs. My most favorite bands like nine inch nials have covered >many of song. i went back to the original versions and compared them well, i know physical is an adam ant song, and memorabilia is a cover song by someone.... but does that really constitute "many"? i heard a warm place sounds like an old david bowie song, and down in it sounds like dig it by skinny puppy... but those aren't really cover songs. i dunno.... just confused by this statement. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff Date: 06 Feb 1998 21:41:03 PST > >i heard a warm place sounds like an old david bowie song, and down in it >sounds like dig it by skinny puppy... but those aren't really cover songs. > >i dunno.... just confused by this statement. well memorbilial was written by david ball (which i don't know who that is) reznor has covered some songs in live concerts scary monsters-bowie red scab-adam ant and marco pirroni beat my guest-adam ant and marco pirroni he has also covered songs on cds dead souls - joy division supernaut-black sabbath mabey many wasn't the right word for it i guess i was thinking of artist in general here and mixed it up with the nin passages sorry for the confusion if you have any more questions on nin email me personally at ninfan87@hotmail.com so we don't tie up the mobility would love your questions it sparks my interest when i get questions on things i claim to know. thanx, evil ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com aim evilninja6 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:11:44 -0600 (CST) At 12:01 AM 2/7/98 -0500, you wrote: >i heard a warm place sounds like an old david bowie song, and down in it >sounds like dig it by skinny puppy... but those aren't really cover songs. Not sure about the Bowie reference, but Down In It sounds NOTHING like Dig It. Trent has his own flair and style; Down In It has a hip-hop meets electro flavour whereas Dig It is stereotypical early Puppy... *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:22:49 -0600 -----Original Message----- >hey have any of you heard of any new stuff from moby i heard that there >is going to be a up coming singile and album but i dont know when or >what it is called. > I've heard a bootleg cassette that had some outtakes, remixes, remixes and a good chunk of the score for "Double Tap." One song, called "Inside," (kind of in the "alone" vibe) was noted that it might appear on Moby's next record. My favorite track was an 80's "Sprockets-Rock" euro-pop cut with Paul Yates on vocals called "Schaumgummi." It's about marshmallows, supposedly, sung in german, and hysterically funny, yet cool at the same time. I think it was done strictly for fun, however, with no eye towards ever releasing it. BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Daniels" Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:36:56 -0600 I don't really like Puffy that much either, but he is one of the hardest working musicians around today, even more so than Moby maybe. After all, you have to take into consideration how varied he is in making his music. Has anyone here heard "All About The Benjamins"? Dave Grohl and even Rob Zombie are on that song. It doesn't get much more varied than that. D. ---------- i guess i'm just biased to music that gets redone with some exiting new flair! look at Moby, he samples lots of stuff, hell ,all techno was at the beginning was samples. Rap is just a slower, more mainstream version of techno. The only thing i don't like about rap is the fact that all the music is the same. Puffy has a very unique sound when so few do. as does Moby. tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoonDogg Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in San Diego? (Show Review) Date: 07 Feb 1998 11:31:01 -0800 Saw Moby last night in San Diego. He was headlining with BT, Crystal Method, Kottonmouth Kings, & Bran Van 3000. BV3 was pretty cool, 3 female & 2 male singers/rappers with keyboards, bass, drums, guitar. They were pretty interesting with the songs changing tempo and style back and forth. Worth watching for. I didn't care for KK. 3 rappers with live band. They were decent, but unoriginal. Combination of Rage Against the Machine and Cypress Hill. Entertaining only for a short while. Crystal Method rocked of course. No need explaining who they are I assume. BT likewise. CM and BT definately brought the house down. Moby, on the other hand, dissapointed me. I have never seen him live, and haven't been a fan very long, but I am a BIG fan. He had a guitar player, drums, percussionist. Moby played around on the bongos and a couple of drums now and then, but other than that, he just jumped around on stage and mouthed the words to the songs which were all on DAT. I guess I was expecting him to actually play some music. I have seen discussions in the past on this subject, and I am not trying to start another argument, but I would really have preffered to see him spin, play guitar, sing, etc. He did sing a little, and he also said his guitar 'didn't show up'. Altogether it was a rockin show in a really small venue. There were some technical probems between sets, but the DJ keep the crowd groovin' sufficiently while they waited. ----===MoonDogg--> SugarK97@aol.com wrote: > > > > It is indeed *the* Moby. Playing in San Diego....How stoked am I? > > > > Could somebody please give me some information on this show? Is it going to > be 21 and up like it was last time he was in town? Any help would be > wonderful. > > Thanks > Kathryn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) playing live with a XP-80 Date: 07 Feb 1998 13:54:57 -0600 (CST) just briefly... i have the opprotunity to play live next month. i use a roland XP-80 for just about everything, along with a sampler. my question: does anyone know how i can play live with minimal breaks? i've tried looping 8-16 bar phrases, but when i turn off the loop to go to, say, bar 9, i can't turn the loop back on again for the next 8 bars. it just goes to the end and stops. is there a way to load more than one song at a time and chain them together? if you can help me i will be forever in your debt. of course, reply to ME ONLY, not the list. thanks for your time! -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sicktodeth@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in San Diego? (Show Review) Date: 07 Feb 1998 17:04:45 EST ditto on the san diego review although I did miss BV 3000. The one item that kind of turns me off about seeing Moby live is he talks a lot during his set inbetween songs, not to say I don't care what he has to say but when the artists before him play straight through into other songs, the break inbetween kind of breaks up the rythm and flow of the music. I think that Moby is an incredible person and musician, although I feel he alienates alot of his fanbase by continually playing 21 and over clubs. oh well the show was worth the ten bucks jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) That's When I Reach for My Remote -- editorial Date: 07 Feb 1998 20:40:51 -0600 An online Christian music mag comments on MTV and Moby's "Revolver": -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barrett Busch Subject: (mobility) moby mp3s? Date: 07 Feb 1998 22:15:57 -0500 Hello everyone. I need some help. I am looking for Moby mp3 files from like all of his older releases, like from Instinct. My stupid local record stores do not have any, and i would really like to here some of the songs. So if anyone knows where i can get a bunch of mp3s, PLEASE reply!!! Thanx in advance, Barrett Busch ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) moby mp3s? Date: 07 Feb 1998 21:45:06 -0600 > >Hello everyone. I need some help. I am looking for Moby mp3 files from like > >all of his older releases, like from Instinct. My stupid local record stores > >do not have any, and i would really like to here some of the songs. So if > >anyone knows where i can get a bunch of mp3s, PLEASE reply!!! If anyone does know, please respond to the list. I'm sure there are quite a few of us that would like a copy of these files. rob s ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (mobility) new stuff Date: 08 Feb 1998 00:49:21 +0000 >> >I've heard a bootleg cassette that had some outtakes, remixes, remixes and a >good chunk of the score for "Double Tap." OK stop teasing! How do we get hold of it..? -- Mark Reed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) puffy is a dipshit Date: 08 Feb 1998 11:26:00 -0800 (PST) i said something about puffy. i h8 him. if he had any talent he'd make his own music. if he samples moby thats the last straw. also every breath u take was #1 the day i was born, and that kind of hurts to see some loser take my song and turn it into an ode to some dead rapper that i don't like either. there's a good anti-puffy page up, yahoo knows where it is, i don't, it's under music that sux under cool yahoo categories under entertainment or something... PUFFY WILL EAT MY SHIT!!!!! MOBY IS KING!!!!!!! == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:14:32 -0500 (EST) that has absolutely nothing to do with what i was talking about. like i said there is nothing wrong with covering songs, but every puffy song is a take off of someone else's. i think if he had any talent at all, he would create some thing of his own. i was not talking about any other people besides moby. so don't take two lines out of what i wrote and turn it into your reason to rant. in my opinion, puffy doesn't have any real talent, and that is the only person i was concerned with when writing that. cookypuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:15:11 -0500 (EST) thank you erik. cookypuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tooey" Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:57:29 -0600 You folks kill me!!!!!!! hahahahahaahahaaaa Puffy is an artist whether you realize it or not. Speaking from a DJ's point of view in a club where I don't go a night without playing at least 2 Puffy songs, and getting requests for 14 more. Puffy takes songs, 80's hit songs and inserts them in (SOME) of his dance songs. Making them accessible again for a new generation to enjoy. Say for example, Matthew Wilder's "Break My Stride", find me one DJ in America or abroad that played that song in his nightclub regularly unless he was clearing his club out for a reason. The fidelity is terrible, there is NO bass to speak of, and the fluff lyrics around the hook are just that FLUFF. Puffy comes along and take s a recognizable hook and re-sings it in his song. Do the kids care it was a crap pop song to start with? No, I lower the volume on that part and they sing it at the top of their lungs on the dance floor. Speaking as a remixer and (hopefully) one day producer, it is not as easy as you think to come up with lyrics that people will groove to around a sample based song Speaking as an assistant music director at a radio station, there are Hundreds of songs a month that try to do exactly what Puffy does for his hit songs. but they don't hit the mark. They don't get on the air, they don't get call backs on the request line. They just sit at the bottom of our CHIT box collecting dust. Finally.... Listen to Puffy's WHOLE CD, not just the overplayed over discussed(grin) and over criticized hit songs, there ARE other songs on there that don't contain samples of old songs, there are positive songs, there are love songs, there are energy building songs and (unfortunately) there are some gangster rap songs. So before you jump on the bandwagon dissing an artist of talent that maybe you don't understand or appreciate, think again. Peace >that has absolutely nothing to do with what i was talking about. like i said >there is nothing wrong with covering songs, but every puffy song is a take off >of someone else's. i think if he had any talent at all, he would create some >thing of his own. i was not talking about any other people besides moby. so >don't take two lines out of what i wrote and turn it into your reason to >rant. in my opinion, puffy doesn't have any real talent, and that is the >only person i was concerned with when writing that. >cookypuss > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:17:23 +0000 > Puffy is an artist whether you realize it or not. Nah..puffy sucks. Just because someone sells well or appeals to commercial listeners doesn't mean he's an artist. Puffy and his friends are a disgrace to hip hop. If you want rap, listen to Gang Starr, Common, or Mobb Deep. they kick ass. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) anti-puffy site Date: 08 Feb 1998 15:03:56 -0800 (PST) Here's a good anti-puffy site i found on yahoo It pretty much explains everything, and it mentions the humpty dance NOW PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT PUFFY!!! This is a moby list, and we can all keep our opinions to ourselves I'm sorry, I originally started the Puffy thing by saying in my intro letter that i h8 him, but u guys took it 2 far!!! Pretty soon we'll be getting mail from hanson fans saying that theyre kool... *sheesh* rermber... THIS IS A MOBY LIST!!!! NOT A PUFFY DISCUSSION GROUP!!! BYE!!! == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik selke Subject: Re: (mobility) anti-puffy site Date: 08 Feb 1998 18:46:25 -0500 (EST) christ, when a brain dead page that was... i can't believe i was that bored erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/ Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/ "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V. But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked" "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move" On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Paul Simpson wrote: > > > Here's a good anti-puffy site i found on yahoo > It pretty much explains everything, and it mentions the humpty dance > NOW PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT PUFFY!!! > This is a moby list, and we can all keep our opinions to ourselves > I'm sorry, I originally started the Puffy thing by saying in my intro > letter that i h8 him, but u guys took it 2 far!!! > Pretty soon we'll be getting mail from hanson fans saying that theyre > kool... > *sheesh* > rermber... > THIS IS A MOBY LIST!!!! > NOT A PUFFY DISCUSSION GROUP!!! > BYE!!! > > > == > >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< > "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 08 Feb 1998 18:58:52 EST Since I satrted this mess i'd like to make my final say. As music goes, hip- hop culture has been on the downside for the last few years. The violence and racism it portrays, the people who listen to it, the attitude created by it, and the lack of universal understanding is all part of what is wrong with it. Puffy decided to take some 80's classics and turn them into 90's hits with a new flair. He wanted to do something that would make me, the non rap listener sit back and appreciate it. I'm an 80's DJ here in Santa Cruz and i play the Police and David Bowie on a regular basis. Not everyone these days has heard "Lets Dance" by David Bowie. Puffy not only took it upon himself to revive a classic tune, but started to bridge the gap between people who listen to rap, and people who don't. When I found myself sitting at Blockbuster Music listening to his CD I realized that alot of my anti-rap feeling were being thrown out the window. This man has talent. He owns his own record label that he started. He makes music that he wants people to like. He wants to make money.And he is succeeding. I could see if he was outright stealing the songs, but he is paying for the rights. He does what Moby does, he does what makes him happy, he does what makes his fans happy, and he tries to survive in this world of music that is so bent on Top 40 crap like Hanson and The Spice Girls that its a wonder we've ever heard of Moby. All i'm trying to say is he took a new take on some great 80's songs and did it right. Hell, even Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer each had 1 good 80's sampled song. We all have to be a little more open minded. We all need to be good people. We all have to realize we all can't agree. But wouldn't it be nice if we could. Dj Tripp aka Evil Ninja2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 08 Feb 1998 19:27:45 -0500 (EST) No really, I WANT to get 10,000 emails all about Puff Daddy. I don't give a rat's ass what y'all think of him. For the love of God and Moby, Shut up ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: (mobility) dan perry? Date: 08 Feb 1998 21:01:02 -0500 sorry to do this, as i know this list has been WAY off topic lately...but i'm really in need to get in touch with dan perry, so if you're reading dan.....write me back. never got the cd. love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: (mobility) to make up for that last one... Date: 08 Feb 1998 21:02:55 -0500 to make up for the last one... here's a moby-related question: are you gals and guys happy with the things moby writes about in his lyrics? i mean, the lyrics alone? wouldn't it be nice if he'd implement some of his attitude from his essays into his lyrics? i love his love anguish and personal pain, but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!! love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 08 Feb 1998 22:03:12 EST well....i'm going to the Puff daddy and the Family concert in a couple of weeks and honestly, I'm not the biggest fan but if he can make me move out of my seat and dance, then he is definitely worth watching plus i got the tickets for free!! love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: (mobility) A Enuffy of Puffy! Date: 08 Feb 1998 22:12:01 -0500 Ahhhhhhh! Come on everyone please cant we quit the puff stuff? i dont care.. most moby fans dont care. and most of all moby doesnt care! (i dont know what that means) Anyways please stop spamming me with your puffy stories. Thankyou and enjoy your Sunday Evening Eric "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." -Duke Ellington- Eric M. Goldberg gold@netrox.net http://www.netrox.net/~gold/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) my homework Date: 09 Feb 1998 01:50:14 -0700 * Name-Danny Legare * Age-26 * What is in your Moby collection moby-move ep (elektra) moby-hymn ep (that 33.3 minute version. good gawd, that is incredible) (mute) moby-everything is wrong (elektra) moby-feeling so real ep (elektra) moby-into the blue ep (mute) (with spiritual/simple mix, voodoo child mix etc) moby-animal rights (elektra) moby-animal rights (mute 2cd set w/little idiot) moby-the story so far moby-that's when i reach for my revolver (promo cd5 with live tracks) (elektra) moby-i like to score (elektra) * Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are i heard hymm and feeling so real back to back when listening to everything is wrong. i think he is brilliant, his literature at bit extremist-but i do agree with him. to a point. the fact that he is into so many different types of music, almost a chameleon, yet he holds strong to his ideals in such a mechanical enviroment. * Other artists you like autechre, download, ben folds five, aphex twin, sarah mclachlan, nusrat fateh ali khan, slowdive, dead can dance, delerium, an april march, pixies, meatbeat manifesto, anne clark * Any other interesting information you wish to share anybody knows of where i might be able to get a moby shirt? Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) anti-puffy site Date: 09 Feb 1998 04:26:24 -0700 At 03:03 PM 2/8/98 -0800, you wrote: > > >Pretty soon we'll be getting mail from hanson fans saying that theyre >kool... >*sheesh* GREAT PAUL! I wanted to write this myself... but you just read my mind... I dont even know who this puffy is.... ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 09 Feb 1998 09:05:00 -0500 You have a point BUT, I think there is a big difference between doing a cover song here and there and making a whole cd or the majarity of your work remakes. I think Puff Daddy's music is fun but I also think he gets WAY more credit than he deserves. ---------- >i don't think redoing other people's songs is any example of talent. >sorry there is nothing about moby. :) >cookypuss OH but there is :) I'm assuming you think Moby has less talent w/ Animal Rights considering he redid(remade?) Revolver. Now while I haven't heard the original..I think Revolver is a great song. Just because a person/group covers a song..doesn't mean they're any less talented. Some examples? RevCo's version of Do You Think I'm Sexy..See the Virus 100 cd from Alternative Tentacles..groups like Nomeansno, Faith No More, L7, Sepultra, Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, and others recording their takes on Dead Kennedy songs...Then there's the Shut Up Kitty comp from Re-Constriction/Cargo Records...Your favorite "industrial" bands doing their takes on popular songs..KMFDM doing U2's Mysterious Ways, D.D.T doing Madonna's Vogue(imho..they do it better), A-Politiq doing PE's She Watch Channel Zero?!, Fleshhouse doing the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations, and many more...Last(but certainly not least) is Covered In Black from Cleopatra...It's an industrial tribute to AC/DC..Die Krupps does It's A Long Way To The Top...Pigface vs. Sheep On Drugs does a VERY interesting take on Back In Black..Sister Machine Gun does TNT(Chris is known to do a cover at every live show..)..and 16 Volt does Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep. As you can see..this is a very talented list of artists..are they less talented cuz they covered a song? I guess that's up to you to decide :) Ryan (who's seeing Consolidated tonight..woo hoo!) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Williams" Subject: (mobility) Dammit! Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:14:17 -0500 Enough about PUFFY. I am on a MOBY list. NOT a damn PUFFY list. If you want to talk about Puffy, get your own list, and shut the hell up. -C ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephanie Lyn Weidemann Subject: (mobility) Dammit! (fwd) Date: 09 Feb 1998 10:40:19 -0500 (EST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Reply-To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Enough about PUFFY. I am on a MOBY list. NOT a damn PUFFY list. If you want to talk about Puffy, get your own list, and shut the hell up. -C good point! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Dammit2 Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:17:53 EST Puffy was related to music, music is related to Moby and no one was talking about anything else anyways. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) Dammit2 Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:40:30 -0500 (EST) everything is related to music. Life is music. But you don't hear me writing a dissertation on that do you? I think the majority wins here. Enough of the Puff. love, marjorana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) Dammit! Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:52:15 -0500 Amen to that, Chris. "dreamANALYZER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) to make up for that last one... Date: 09 Feb 1998 15:52:51 -0600 (CST) At 09:02 PM 2/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >are you gals and guys happy with the >things moby writes about in his lyrics? >i mean, the lyrics alone? wouldn't it be >nice if he'd implement some of his attitude >from his essays into his lyrics? >i love his love anguish and personal pain, >but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!! That's the point. Moby tries to seperate his ideals and his music as much as he can. Rather than get labeled as some ultra-PC nutcase and alienating possible fans, he writes either jovial pop/dance songs or guitar-and-drum-machine-driven angst rock. His essays let him express himself on a political level, while the music is a medium for his emotional output. >love, >ryu >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional > electronic music. To hear some, get cds, > and see stuff, go to my homepage at: >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik selke Subject: Re: (mobility) to make up for that last one... Date: 09 Feb 1998 17:17:55 -0500 (EST) hmm... I'd be curious to hear a side project with his views implemented in his music... you never know... I don't mind a partial separatism between the two, but some great bands have used both their musical talent and ideologies to make some very profound musical statements e erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/ Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/ "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V. But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked" "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move" On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Furball wrote: > At 09:02 PM 2/8/98 -0500, you wrote: > >are you gals and guys happy with the > >things moby writes about in his lyrics? > >i mean, the lyrics alone? wouldn't it be > >nice if he'd implement some of his attitude > >from his essays into his lyrics? > >i love his love anguish and personal pain, > >but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!! > > That's the point. Moby tries to seperate his ideals and his music as much as > he can. Rather than get labeled as some ultra-PC nutcase and alienating > possible fans, he writes either jovial pop/dance songs or > guitar-and-drum-machine-driven angst rock. His essays let him express > himself on a political level, while the music is a medium for his emotional > output. > > >love, > >ryu > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional > > electronic music. To hear some, get cds, > > and see stuff, go to my homepage at: > >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* > | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | > | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | > | -Failure, "Solaris" | > | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | > | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | > *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: (mobility) re:puffy Date: 09 Feb 1998 16:05:58 PST whooo!!!! i finially got done deleting those puffy spams they were really boring i joined this list to talk about moby but i haven't had time yet. evil ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com i shouldn't go but you are wrenching dragging shakine me turn off the sun pull the stars from the sky -nin- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) that show review someone sent... Date: 09 Feb 1998 14:37:27 -0800 (PST) About that show review someone sent... Has anyone else here heard of Bran Van 3000? I only know 1 song by them (Drinking in L.A.) but I think it's da bomb... IMHO they kind of sound like a canadian version of Beck... it's mostly 1 guy that makes all the music, with a bunch of back-up singers, kinda like OMC or something... The album is kalled "Glee" and in the U.S. it's on Audiogram records. correct me if i'm wrong which I probably am...this is what I've heard from the January 1998 CMJ magazine, the song "Drinking..." is on it...oh, I heard that song on the radio recently, and I saw the video on Muchmusic, which is Canada's version of MTV.... And about Kottonmouth Kings: Acoording to my local modern rock station, they are nothing but a poor man's Beastie Boys, that pretty much says it... "As I say this to you tonight, let us not forget, there is hope..." (sorry I have that song stuck in my hed, MTV plays it a LOT lately...) k bye.... "I was normal once. I didn't like it." "Where I come from there are men with big, loud voices, You'd never make it there!!!!" == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Puffy Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:34:56 EST The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby to enter even more mainsteam. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anthony alznauer Subject: (mobility) lyrics Date: 09 Feb 1998 18:17:12 -0800 (PST) I agree with Ryu. Politically/Ideologically charged music puts itself in a box. Look at Christian music, (i grew up listening to it) over the years the message has gotten so "important" Christians stopped caring if the music was any good and it got worse. In terms of Moby i'd hate to see the day that people lose focus on the music and the raw emotion and beauty of God Moving... because they are too busy agreeing/not agreeing with which God... add info about his political beliefs etc and it gets even worse. Moby's music is about emotion, energy, love etc. He'll never need to say anything about it for me to get the message. -bulb naked _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 09 Feb 1998 19:25:20 -0700 EvilNinja2@aol.com wrote: > > The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a > song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby > to enter even more mainsteam. Getting cynical now aren't we? I for one would run out & buy it just to see how twisted Moby could make it. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffy Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:36:27 -0600 -----Original Message----- >EvilNinja2@aol.com wrote: >> >> The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a >> song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby >> to enter even more mainsteam. > To which Damian replied: >Getting cynical now aren't we? I for one would run out & buy it just to >see how twisted Moby could make it. :) > And now I'm adding: Anyone who's heard Moby's "Babyface" take on Metallica's "Until It Sleeps (Herman Mellville Mix)" would know this to be true. He'd make Puffy punk rawk or death metal. BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: Re: (mobility) Puffalupakis Date: 10 Feb 1998 00:00:46 -0500 Speak for yourself Mr. Tripp. I dont think it would be a great move for Moby, it'd be a blessing for Puffy instead... Though the funny thing that happened today was I heard someone blasting their puff song, and well I couldnt go uncontested so I countered with a nice blast of voodoo child! BAM! eat original music, mr. driver next to me! Thank you and have a puff of a day. Eric At 07:34 PM 2/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >The Best thing about all this anti-puffy businees is that if Moby remixed a >song of his you'd all run out and buy it and say it was a great move for moby >to enter even more mainsteam. > >dj tripp > "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." -Duke Ellington- Eric M. Goldberg gold@netrox.net http://www.netrox.net/~gold/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pazifistin@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Hello and Re Date: 10 Feb 1998 00:02:58 EST *are you gals and guys happy with the things moby writes about in his lyrics? *i mean, the lyrics alone? wouldn't it be nice if he'd implement some of his *attitude from his essays into his lyrics? i love his love anguish and personal *pain, but i want to hear him attack ideology!!!! Well, as this is my first post I will intro myself first. name= Kris Tiles age=21 collection= small but good why Moby?= I got into him a few years back, mainly it was the essays that sucked me in. I had a chance to see him live in Germany last year, and it was absolutly the best concert I've ever been to. It was in a small club and very personal. Saw him again in Milwaukee a few months ago. other musicians= pretty much everything depending on mood. most recently, shelter, into another, david bowie... about myself= i'm a professional student at WI. I live for music, and I'm sure you can relate when I say I can't live without it. I have been vegetarian for 7 years and vegan for one. More to come, I guess... So, in response to the message above. I agree. I think Moby has reached a stage in his life where his fans respect what he stands for, and he should use his voice to educate. If you listen to Moby and don't involve yourself in what he has to say, then it is not Moby that you like so much it is just the music. That's fine, but in my heart I believe that Moby hasn't come all this way just to have some kids following him around for what comes out of his keyboard. -kat :) "It's better to light one candle than to add to the darkness." - Howard Lymon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cm (matt)" Subject: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho Date: 09 Feb 1998 21:44:30 -0800 alright, since everybody is talking about people using moby's stuff and remaking it, (i wont mention mr. daddy), did anyone check fatboy slim on fashionably loud on mtv? i thought i was hearing things at first, but it turns out he used samples from negativland's 'michael jackson' on the escape from noise cd(which is soo cool). this sounded really cool. anyways, to add some moby content, i guess this shows that old songs can be redone well. sometimes. but puffy? man, all his songs are inferior to the originals. and remember that crappy ska cover of come on eileen that came out a while ago? the dexy's midnite runners original version was so much better. so, covers can be ok. or something like that. cm(matt) matt@speed-racer.com no LIVE NUDE GIRLS! here: www.teleport.com/~jbormet "Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth." JFK (1917-63) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81 Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:47:13 -0700 > > >* Where you first heard Moby, and how much of a fan you are > >i heard hymm and feeling so real back to back when listening to everything >is wrong. >i think he is brilliant, his literature at bit extremist-but i do agree >with him. to a point. the fact that he is into so many different types of >music, almost a chameleon, yet he holds strong to his ideals in such a >mechanical enviroment. actually-i just remembered hearing 'thousand' in between sets at a jesus jones/stereo mcs show. we all thought the speakers blew. and then.... Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81 Date: 09 Feb 1998 22:40:36 -0700 just doing the night-shift thing... any moby concert info to pass along to a canuck? has he ever played canada? he must've. does moby actually ever read this? Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Todd Huss Subject: (mobility) THE END OF PUFFY Date: 10 Feb 1998 08:14:15 -0500 All right, a lurker is finally getting incensed enough to surface. I'm suprised at the amount of petty squabling that's arising over Puffy. = And some people seem genuinely willing to put it to a rest, while some = of you refuse to let the subject be changed. In fact, some of you = appear to be trying to enlarge the argument to encompass even more and = inspire endless debate. =20 I hope the following makes sense: I'm suprised at how quickly many people that I THOUGHT would have been = openminded (being Moby fans) are jumping at the opportunity to slam Puff = Daddy. I personally don't like him, but I don't think he "sucks," or = his music "sucks." I just don't personally like him. =20 I don't understand how anyone can define any artistic endeavor as "not = good" or "it sucks," (as most of you so delicately put it,) when you = don't like the artist or style to begin with. Wouldn't the accurate = statement be, "I didn't like it?" Who is anyone to determine the value = of any piece of art? In my opinion, the value of art is determined by = its personal effect on the observer. As long as any song, painting, = etc. inspires emotions in at least ONE person, then it is a "good" piece = of art. But just because you don't like it, that doesn't mean that the = art should be devalued. Picture a total metal-head coming up, listening to God Moving Over the = Face of the Waters or Living. "This sucks," he mutters and walks away. = I rest my case. Todd "the Rain King" Huss toddhuss@mindless.com PS Now if any of you would like to continue this debate, my email is = listed above. You are welcome to flame me there. (NOT to the list.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho Date: 10 Feb 1998 09:35:06 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, cm (matt) wrote: > alright, since everybody is talking about people using moby's stuff and > remaking it, (i wont mention mr. daddy), > did anyone check fatboy slim on fashionably loud on mtv? i thought i was > hearing things at first, but it turns out he used samples from > negativland's 'michael jackson' on the escape from noise cd(which is soo > cool). this sounded really cool. ya know what sucks? the fact that, on ALL the adverts for "FL," they NEVER mentioned fatboy slim, and he is BY FAR the most talented person on the entire show. once again, MTV shows its true face and bites itself in the ass. every notice how they play really cool stuff during the news clips and other stories, but would NEVER show a real d&b video? or a moby video that didn't have a guitar in it. i hate MTV. -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Bran Van Date: 10 Feb 1998 10:45:33 -0800 >Has anyone else here heard of Bran Van 3000? I only know 1 song by >them (Drinking in L.A.) but I think it's da bomb... To start out with a Moby related post-Bran Van actually thanks Moby in the liner notes of their album...It's not a bad disc really, they do an interesting cover of "Cum On Feel The Noise", and some nifty little electronic ditties.... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in here tho Date: 10 Feb 1998 11:22:17 -0500 mtv is dumb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SpeakNeasy@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her Date: 10 Feb 1998 11:40:14 EST I agree MTV sucks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in her Date: 10 Feb 1998 12:28:38 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 SpeakNeasy@aol.com wrote: > I agree MTV sucks > Can we stop with the slamming already? I see the same debate about puffy rehashing in the form of MTV... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:55:44 +0200 (EET) On Tuesday, February 10, 1998 12:28:38 you wrote: > >On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 SpeakNeasy@aol.com wrote: >> I agree MTV sucks >> >Can we stop with the slamming already? I see the same debate about puffy >rehashing in the form of MTV... > > > > > this list was good , but now, almost every mail is crap. I dont want to read some dummy "puff daddy" mails from Moby discussion list and btw everyone knows that Puffy sucks. And please dont send some fucking "mtv sucks" mails to this list. it's so boring to read those. This list was and it still is sometimes great way to found out about Moby's future things, let's all keep it like it was. |********************************| | Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) | | www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | | -Coffee is poison (-Moby) | |********************************| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Little Drummer Boy Date: 10 Feb 1998 13:31:01 -0500 (EST) i agree that too much discussion of off-topic stuff has been going on here... I would like to suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for something off topic to ARISE from something relevant to Moby. However, if someone wishes to continue discussion, why can't they just write to the other people who mention it as well? I understand that a few messages must come up on the list first, but once it is understood that a large number of the readers are fed up with the topic, please be kind and discuss it outside the confines of the list. Puffy and MTV would be perfect examples of something to try this with. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and i hope it helps. **************************************************************** Your parents always told you: | What they meant was: | Early to bed, | Early to rise, Early to rise, | Early to bed, Makes a man healthy, | Makes a man healthy, Wealthy, and wise. | But socially dead. REMEMBER THESE WORDS **************************************************************** "We must be careful to never try so hard for something that we forget what it is that we are trying for." Little Drummer Boy rfairbai@mbhs.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) an actual moby question! Date: 10 Feb 1998 12:43:19 -0600 (CST) has anyone heard of what moby's first single will be off his new album to be released some time this year? i was just curious. i also was wondering if anyone out there has an extra copy of the aussie release of Jmaes Bond Theme? andy gingerbread man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik selke Subject: (mobility) re: james bond Date: 10 Feb 1998 13:44:48 -0500 (EST) I don't have an extra copy, but I have seen it listed on numerous online CD stores... so if you feel safe using those... erik erik@brainwashed.com selke@tcimet.net One Percent: http://www.mokum.pair.com/one_percent/ Something About Incoherency http://mets.tcimet.net/~selke/ "Its O.K. to show a man getting his balls kicked on T.V. But not O.K. to show him getting his balls stroked" "We can tell when people are lying... Their lips move" On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > has anyone heard of what moby's first single will be off his new album to be > released some time this year? i was just curious. i also was wondering if > anyone out there has an extra copy of the aussie release of Jmaes Bond Theme? > > andy > > gingerbread man > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy27@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Howdy Date: 10 Feb 1998 13:50:44 EST Hey People....I am a new member and was told to introduce myself, so, here we go... My name is Fil and I am from Chicago....I am 19 and have everything except Animal Rights in my Moby Collection.....I got into Moby years ago and have Lvoed his music since, despite all the 90 degree turns he has taken....I just recently saw him perform in Minnesota and man, I gain a greater appreciation for his style with just one performance....I'd hate to say that I am his biggest fan, since I am sure that there are bigger Moby nuts out there than me, but I would like to say that I am up there.....I live, breathe, poop Moby....I compose Techno independantly and Moby, along with other ambient and undergroud hardcore groups, are my main influences....Other artists I listen to range from old alternative from the 90's to UK trance techno.....if there is one thing in the music Biz that I hate.....it is COUNTRY!!!!!! other than that, I am pretty kewl with most music.....um.....I think I finished answering all of the questions.....I am looking foward to hearing all the little goodies about Moby.....later all Fil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #81 Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:04:20 EST actually....i was in art class and i was drawing something...my friend had just come back from the shore, and these people he met down there were listening to Moby and he bought the move single and let me listen to it cos he knew i was into dance music....that's when i fell in love....bye. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." Subject: (mobility) RE: Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:15:00 -0500 I think that part of the problem might be that people just aren't around to read the e-mails right when they get them, so the behind so to speak and by the time the read the mail that says we don't want to here this crap they've already put in their two cents. That's just what I think happens some times. ---------- i agree that too much discussion of off-topic stuff has been going on here... I would like to suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for something off topic to ARISE from something relevant to Moby. However, if someone wishes to continue discussion, why can't they just write to the other people who mention it as well? I understand that a few messages must come up on the list first, but once it is understood that a large number of the readers are fed up with the topic, please be kind and discuss it outside the confines of the list. Puffy and MTV would be perfect examples of something to try this with. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and i hope it helps. **************************************************************** Your parents always told you: | What they meant was: | Early to bed, | Early to rise, Early to rise, | Early to bed, Makes a man healthy, | Makes a man healthy, Wealthy, and wise. | But socially dead. REMEMBER THESE WORDS **************************************************************** "We must be careful to never try so hard for something that we forget what it is that we are trying for." Little Drummer Boy rfairbai@mbhs.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Fashionably Loud Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:41:40 -0800 >ya know what sucks? the fact that, on ALL the adverts for "FL," they >NEVER mentioned fatboy slim, and he is BY FAR the most talented person on >the entire show. once again, MTV shows its true face and bites itself in You forget Death In Vegas who are of course, far more talented than Mr. Cook (whom I also enjoy) ;) BTW-If anybody has a copy of Fashionably Loud on video please E-Mail me personally at rekkit@spectranet.ca Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: Date: 10 Feb 1998 15:46:23 -0500 It seems to me that talking about how puff and mtv are off the topic is itself off the topic. dreamANALYZER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy27@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:02:21 EST >It seems to me that talking about how puff and mtv are off the topic is >itself off the topic. > >dreamANALYZER I agree....what does Poofy Puff have to do with MOBY anyways?!?!?!? let's get over the Mtv thing and start some good ol' Moby conversations..... Fil P.S.-being my first comment ever on this Moby thingy, I would just like to say I would LOVE to see Moby do a remix to the theme song of the Simpsons!!!!!! Number one hit....yep....definitely gonna be a number one hit!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VaeMc@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Re:so you went to 1st Ave too?! Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:23:42 EST Fil, * Hello*, I was excited to hear that you too, got the chance to see Moby in Minnesota. I also was fortunate enough to head on down to "Fist Ave.", and see him and Juno Reactor perform. I am from the Twin Cities, and I am a senior in highschool here. I love MOby, and a lot of other artists (including the one formerly known as Prince.) Other than listening to music, and going to concerts, I keep busy with school, and just hanging out. There is not a lot to do in the Twin Cities at this time of year (as you may already know), so fun is limited. Hmmm.. on Chicago; I actually thought about going to Loyola next year, but my dad is determined to not have me go to college in an urban setting, I guess.... anyaways... e-mail me back and tell me what you thought of the concert and MN in general... if you want... ~cheers~ Jessica ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danishh@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) Bran Van Date: 10 Feb 1998 16:38:07 EST It's getting an americian rerelease I do believe..for a major label...or has that already happened and that's what you are talking about..it's going to be abit different chhers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Todd Huss Subject: RE: (mobility) RE: Date: 10 Feb 1998 17:57:42 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD364D.67098220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <<>> Oooohhhh.. that WOULD be very cool, indeed. 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I have a offer for the list. Everyone is talking about MP3 this and MP3 that. Well, I decided to start a MP3 mailing list. Every week a new MP3 will arrive in your mailbox!!! The MP3 will be mailed every Thurs. This Thurs. will be Moby's version of Soundgarden's Dusty. To Subscribe all you have to do is email me at JadenX@aol.com and tell me that you want in on the list. Coming up in the next couple of weeks: Aerosmith's "Falling In Love Is Hard In The Knees" Blur's "Beetlebum" Metallica's "Until It Sleeps" ALL mixed by Moby. After a couple of weeks I'll take requests for Moby stuff. I have almost every song he has so there should be now problem in me finding any song. Remember, you have 24 hours to delete the MP3 once you get it. I hope this service will make everyone :) (smile) :) -Carmen B. KOA MP3's ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: RE: (mobility) RE: Date: 10 Feb 1998 18:55:57 -0500 (EST) how about the addams family?? --marji ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tracy Acuna" Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:13:32 -0500 LOL :-) i agree Emo -----Original Message----- >>It seems to me that talking about how puff and mtv are off the topic is >>itself off the topic. >> >>dreamANALYZER > >I agree....what does Poofy Puff have to do with MOBY anyways?!?!?!? let's get >over the Mtv thing and start some good ol' Moby conversations..... > >Fil > >P.S.-being my first comment ever on this Moby thingy, I would just like to say >I would LOVE to see Moby do a remix to the theme song of the Simpsons!!!!!! >Number one hit....yep....definitely gonna be a number one hit!!!! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) jingles Date: 10 Feb 1998 21:10:38 EST the Heathciff song would kick ass! That is such an awsome song. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: (mobility) Drugs Date: 10 Feb 1998 22:44:58 -0800 Hmm... Ok-this is probably going to put me in several people's bad books but what the hell... I'll start by taking a look at some of my favorite artists: nine inch nails, Moby, Spiritualized, DJ Shadow, Psychic TV, Coil & Death In Vegas All of them (IMHO) are extremely talented musicians/producers etc. and they all seem to take great effort in over & under producing their music to acheive certain effects. Anyone who's gotten stoned and listened to Floyd knows that one can realize a lot about what goes into a song in the right frame of mind. Last week I decided to give Moby a shot after indulging. I listened to two cd's I'd compiled myself consisting of early Instinct material up to the latest rock & Trophy stuff. I've got to say that it really left me cold. I'd expected *so* much more, because as I'm sure we all do I love Moby's work. Obviously band's like Spiritualized, Mercury Rev & DJ Shadow tailor their work a little bit more to the drug crowd. But people like nine inch nails have such superlative 'finishing-touch' talent I'd hoped that Moby would too. Don't get me wrong, I still consider Moby to be possibly the most talented single man in the industry; I just figured that someone who writes such emotionally evocative (and sometimes draining) music would produce a more textured product. Unless anyone knows different I'll assume it's due to his lack of interest in the drug scene. Anyway, I'd love to hear thoughts/rants/tirades/agreements etc. on this. (and please, I don't want *1* person telling me that Puffy makes good drug music ;) Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Bran Van Date: 10 Feb 1998 23:08:22 EST I just saw this video today. Phat video. Sounds very cool. Any other info on the album? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Io6032@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) hey!! this doesnt involve puffy, whoohoo. fatboy slim is in he... Date: 10 Feb 1998 23:08:19 EST > anyways, to add some moby content, i guess this shows that old songs can be > redone well. sometimes. but puffy? man, all his songs are inferior to > the originals. and remember that crappy ska cover of come on eileen that > came out a while ago? the dexy's midnite runners original version was so > much better. I agree with puffy. Since the first time I heard him ("Can't Nobody Hold Me Down") I thought he totally sucked. Mase sucks too. The only good artist on that label is B.I.G. who at least had some talent and originality. Personally rap wise I have the most respect for the Wu-Tang Clan. Rza is basically the moby of hip-hop original, groundbreaking, and innovative. But I like that ska-cover. It's by Save Ferris and that's a pretty cool album. io ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs Date: 10 Feb 1998 21:49:29 -0500 >Hmm... >Ok-this is probably going to put me in several people's bad books but what >the hell... Nahh..I doubt it...Who's to say what and what isn't a "drug". As Consolidated put it in "Stoned": America you know you're so stoned. Stoned on television, music, and print. Stoned on alcohol, religion, and drugs. Terms like freedom and democracy. Stoned on violence and a war economy. Stoned on a nation's addiction to meat. Stoned on a nation's addiction to oil. America is based out of it's mind." >Unless anyone knows different I'll assume it's due to his lack of interest >in the drug scene. Well..I'm going to assume he does have a lack of interest..I'll quote from the liner notes from Next Is The E(Instinct): Upon hearing "Next Is The E", many people make the assumption that this song is about drug use. The truth is that I disapprove of the irresponsible use of drugs. I've seen far too many lives damaged from drug use to even consider glorifying drugs in a song. - Moby. Now what he considers irresponsible use..I don't know..but it'd seem to me that he'd be against making his beats tailor made for drug use. Ryan np: The Herbaliser: "Blow Your Headphones" (Note: If you haven't got this cd yet..GET IT!! Another great album from the Ninja Crew :) ) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) internet radio Date: 10 Feb 1998 23:55:42 -0600 (CST) hey everybody, i found aa nifty little internet radio station (for those of you who like them). they are really good about getting requests into the playlist and they just played 2 moby songs in a row! (i railed on them last week to get moby into the playlist. they even asked for suggestions on what to play!) i highly suggest you check it out if you have the real player! www.3wk.com make more moby requests! andy gingerbread man "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:11:44 -0500 >nine inch nails, Moby, Spiritualized, DJ Shadow, Psychic TV, Coil & Death In >Vegas > >All of them (IMHO) are extremely talented musicians/producers etc. and they >all seem to take great effort in over & under producing their music to >acheive certain effects. Anyone who's gotten stoned and listened to Floyd >knows that one can realize a lot about what goes into a song in the right >frame of mind. >Last week I decided to give Moby a shot after indulging. >I just figured that someone who writes such >emotionally evocative (and sometimes draining) music would produce a more >textured product. this is an interesting subject! i'd say that the reason that moby's music doesn't sound as inspiring under the influence is because of the artists you mentioned above, he's the least likely to record music while on drugs. i KNOW that spriritualized, shadow, ptv, and coil are large supporters of substances in general,,,and i'd be willing to bet that reznor and death in vegas are supporters as well. but moby is not really into drugs too much, and i'd be willing to bet that he records with a chemically free mind. his music probably sounds dry when you're not. any other ideas here? love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:02:59 -0700 At 10:44 PM 2/10/98 -0800, you wrote: >Hmm... >Ok-this is probably going to put me in several people's bad books but what >the hell... >I'll start by taking a look at some of my favorite artists: > >nine inch nails, Moby, Spiritualized, DJ Shadow, Psychic TV, Coil & Death In >Vegas Sorry, i thought my English was pretty good, but i dont understand a single word of this, WHAT is this man saying? Can someone explain? (because i THINK i like to comment on it...) (Rekkit:) >All of them (IMHO) are extremely talented musicians/producers etc. and they >all seem to take great effort in over & under producing their music to >acheive certain effects. Anyone who's gotten stoned and listened to Floyd >knows that one can realize a lot about what goes into a song in the right >frame of mind. >Last week I decided to give Moby a shot after indulging. I listened to two >cd's I'd compiled myself consisting of early Instinct material up to the >latest rock & Trophy stuff. I've got to say that it really left me cold. >I'd expected *so* much more, because as I'm sure we all do I love Moby's >work. Obviously band's like Spiritualized, Mercury Rev & DJ Shadow tailor >their work a little bit more to the drug crowd. But people like nine inch >nails have such superlative 'finishing-touch' talent I'd hoped that Moby >would too. >Don't get me wrong, I still consider Moby to be possibly the most talented >single man in the industry; I just figured that someone who writes such >emotionally evocative (and sometimes draining) music would produce a more >textured product. >Unless anyone knows different I'll assume it's due to his lack of interest >in the drug scene. > >Anyway, I'd love to hear thoughts/rants/tirades/agreements etc. on this. >(and please, I don't want *1* person telling me that Puffy makes good drug >music ;) > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: >http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm > > > > ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:12:24 -0800 Frank Z, I understood Rekkit fine, and I think the subject is interesting, so lay off the cynicism please? Thanks. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #83 Date: 11 Feb 1998 05:13:20 -0700 bonjour, bran van comes from montreal (my hometown-check it out if you ever get the chance-and re:moby in montreal, if i am not mistaken-if anyone can prove me wrong-he has only played there once, in a disco/bar called metropolis; i cannot confirm this, i was into pearl jam and nirvana making alternative very marketable). anyhow, bran van are a communal group-spanning 20 or so artists from around the city and beyond. the cd was released last year to much praise, and yes 'beck' comes to mind, even though his apparent obnoxious attitude turned me off for life. bran van can take a lot of keys from moby, and the experimentation on that album could turn a lot of heads in the u.s. remember bran van and as far as i know, the artwork will be different for the american release. for the initial release in canada they took some heavy-metal antics and blended them with cutesy cartoons, and the carry case depicts a spiralling peice of sushi in the center. campy? yup. do you guys think bands like this take themselves seriously? my only critic of this band would be with such a diverse line up (such backgrounds as soul, r&b, jazz, disco, punk rawk) should represent some multicultural groups, however a song like 'drinking in l.a.' isn't representing anything like that...don't get me wrong, playing devil's advocate (my favorite pastime) i think the album is great ('cum on feel the noize', yeah!) how about moby doing the theme to 'star wars' heck, if 'meco' could do it, why not moby? sampling some of vader's breathing along with luke whining could become yet another club staple (insert 'bizarre love triangle') or how about moby doing yet another 'milking-a-dead-cow' remix of 'blue monday'. sheesh the original rules. bar none. been listening to move ep all night. yes. dig. cheers, danny Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 11 Feb 1998 08:20:48 -0600 (CST) ok, i don't know if it is because i just woke up or what, but i think moby doing the theme to "the nanny" would be both really weird and interesting. i will see this later and probably shoot myself for it... andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SpeakNeasy@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:25:49 EST Actually I think that a moby remix os prodigy and chemical brothers as well as Depeche mode would be most rewarding and indeed stimulating.. What does everyone else think? Theo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:49:00 -0500 I think that would be pretty cool. What about PJ Harvey - I think that could be pretty wild!! ---------- Actually I think that a moby remix os prodigy and chemical brothers as well as Depeche mode would be most rewarding and indeed stimulating.. What does everyone else think? Theo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:01:23 -0500 A remix of Inspector Gadget would be REALLY cool! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:06:40 -0500 yeah it would dreamANALYZER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: Date: 11 Feb 1998 09:10:47 -0600 now your talkin! At 10:01 AM 2/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >A remix of Inspector Gadget would be REALLY cool! > > > Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs (Frankz) Date: 11 Feb 1998 11:47:48 -0800 >Sorry, i thought my English was pretty good, >but i dont understand a single word of this, >WHAT is this man saying? Can someone explain? >(because i THINK i like to comment on it...) Ahh the irony of it all.... I can't explain it any more clearly than I did in my original post, sorry ;) Perhaps if I translate it into But Not_The_Frankz english: Drugs are for love Love is for Frankz With Love comes Moby Until ever again we are not Loved so cheaply ;) I kid 'cause I love.... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 11 Feb 1998 11:50:14 -0800 >Actually I think that a moby remix os prodigy and chemical brothers as well as >Depeche mode would be most rewarding and indeed stimulating.. >What does everyone else think? He already mixed a Prodigy song I believe. Fairground or Playground edit or some name like that. It was a mix off of an Experience-era song.... I'd like to see him mix a slower Chemmies track, that'd be a good thing..... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: (mobility) Front 242 Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:57:40 -0600 Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out? I'm an old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good. Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 11 Feb 1998 10:28:10 -0500 >He already mixed a Prodigy song I believe. Fairground or Playground edit or >some name like that. It was a mix off of an Experience-era song.... Close but no cigar..Moby remixed Everybody In The Place(Dance Hall Version)..There is a Fairground Mix of the same song..so I'll give you a blue star for being so close :) For those collectors that don't have this mix..it's on the Charly/Everybody In The Place single...I'm pretty sure it's readily available as I've seen it around. And now my choice of what Moby should remix..It's a pretty twisted choice..but why not have Moby remix Smart E's "Sesame's Treet"?!?! ;> I mean..Joey Beltram and Krome & Time remixed it..why shouldn't Moby? BTW..don't ask me how I knew this ;>. OR..how about he remixes the Alpha Team's "Go, Speed Go" ;> No..I'm not a masochist ;>. Ryan np: Vernon Reid: "Mistaken Identity" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) bv3k, moby, lfo, etc. Date: 11 Feb 1998 12:58:51 -0800 (PST) I saw branvan on 12 angry viewers(note...don't on-list flame me but i do like mtv)...turns out the cd glee is on Capital rec. now...woohoo. I must own it... Also, does anyone know anything about moby's LFO remix? A few weeks ago, I saw the video for "We Are Back" on AMP (MTV's techno show)...I thought the song was kinda kool, I like that noizy abrasive techno, reminds me of a certain few AFX songs i know...I heard he did a remix for them, but not that song...If anyone knows anything about that remix or LFO, can u pleez tell me? Also, does ne1 know anything about moby's brian eno remix? I know that's pretty old too, but I like Eno and I wonder what a Moby remix of him would b like... The simpsons remix sounds awesome, considering my last name (and 1 of my fave shows) is Simpsons. Maybe he should remix the South Park theme. Soon, I heard, Sesame Street is gonna do something called "Elmopalooza!"...with Shawn Colvin, Fugees, En Vogue...maybe Moby could participate... Probably the only bad thing about "AMP" is they never play Moby...they do play some good old techno, and LOTS of Orbital and FSOL, and they just recently started playing Kevin Saunderson...but they've never played Moby, which sux...but both Moby vids I have seen were on MTV (JB, Rev.) Next is E...In liners to Rare, it makes you believe the title was changed because of remixing...that's not true right? It was because they thought it was about drugs right? I agree DEath In Vegas is better than FBSlim, all of u who don't have Dead Elvis, it's a phat cd, it's the best 1 I bought so far this year... ok bye.... lovepeaceandhamhockgrease Ps i don't do drugs, so i wouldn't know... == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) tasos Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:17:10 -0800 (PST) i keep getting this mail from this tasos guy telling me to remove mobility...will whoever you are stop telling me this? I'm sorry if I'm annoying to ne1 here, but I have rights to comment my opinions on this mailing list, like evry1 else... my god...can't we all just get along? == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) FATBOY Date: 11 Feb 1998 12:35:06 -0800 (PST) I personally thought DEATH IN VEGAS was the best band at FASH LOuD 3 not FATBOY but i luv fatboy also, and cryst. meth. == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) ONE LAST THING!!! (I promise...) Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:40:16 -0800 (PST) I found a branvan website.. I think...it's damn near official, it's very up to date... to make up 4 all this spam, i wont mail the list for 10 days, how dat sound? oh yes, where does the next is the e sample come from? not the "I feel it" one, but the "Next is the e" one? and what is he/she saying? or is that just another unsolved mystery? == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) MY HP, viruses Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:09:18 -0800 (PST) Hey Mobilians (or whatever), go to my homepage at If you haven't already...I updated it:more linx, guestbook, more stuff...I'm not going to say this every time I update it, but it's kinda nice, so you might wanna check it out...and bookmark it, I update it 2-3 times a month... Oh, if u hate hanson, i got a kewl pic you might want, and if u want to spam someone with a stupid story about chain letters, I got those, e-mail me for a forward... Oh, if u ever see e-mails w/these subjs., don't open them they are viruses: OPEN: VERY COOL :-) JOIN THE CREW RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVERY GOOD TIMES my mom works at a library, she gets all kind of notices like that... just wanted to let u know... I promise I won't spam u w/nemore non-moby crap unless its important.. == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) oops..sorry Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:28:51 -0800 (PST) oops..sorry about that virus warning...i 4got that was against the rule... to make up..i'm also wondering does ne1 know where the "Have U seen my baby" sample is from? I just wonder... == >>>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<<<< "If you lived here, you'd be home right now!!!" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242 Date: 11 Feb 1998 17:57:50 -0800 >Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out? I'm an >old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good. >Keith Forsythe Mutage Mixage has been out for over a year and a half, but it was released domestically recently. Is that the one? (Orb, Underworld etc.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242 Date: 11 Feb 1998 17:01:55 -0600 At 05:57 PM 2/11/98 -0800, you wrote: >>Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out? I'm an >>old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good. >Mutage Mixage has been out for over a year and a half, but it was released >domestically recently. Is that the one? (Orb, Underworld etc.) I also know that Front 242 and Cubanate have joined forces for a band called C-Tec. Could this be what you're looking for? Scott Steg ...I Love Carrots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "pmc" Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #83 Date: 12 Feb 1998 00:50:42 +0100 anybody please could write me lyrics of say it's all mine or let me know = a site where i could find them? thanx a lot, pmc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) RE: Date: 11 Feb 1998 20:32:27 -0500 (EST) sanford and son, good times, the jeffersons complete with weizees voice in the background vocals..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: (mobility) Sampling Date: 12 Feb 1998 01:41:26 GMT With all this talk of sampling, we can't forget to mention one of my favorite bands. The Utah Saints and made up entirely of samples. Supposedly, they did not make one noise themselves. I wish I knew what ever happened to them, but they were great and never had one original sound. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Adair" Subject: (mobility) New Blur remix? Date: 12 Feb 1998 01:55:07 -0000 According to NME (http://www.nme.com/), Blur will soon be releasing a remix album in the UK that had previously only been available in Japan, which includes a remix of Beetlebum by Moby. Apparently, eight out of the nine remixes will be exclusive to the album, with William Orbit's remix of Movin' On being the only one to have been previously released. Now I'm sure that a Moby remix of Beetlebum has already been released; does that mean that this is a new one? Or have they got it wrong? Stuart _____________________ \_ .:stuart adair:. /___ :dubstar::moby::scrawn&lard::eddieizzard:| "i'm / / stu042@bigfoot.com \_________ :bigbeat:::interactivefiction:| covered / / stuart.adair@stud.umist.ac.uk _) :terrypratchett::::drum&bass:| in \ \/\ c.floor homepage back up! (_ /\ :zxspectrum::::fatboyslim:| beees!" \__/ http://cfloor.home.ml.org [__)/ \_ :quake:kenickie:[frenzi]| -(e.i) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 11 Feb 1998 20:57:24 -0500 (EST) i think he has already done prodigy and maybe chemical brothers. am i wrong? hell i don't know, maybe i drempt it. dreamed? errgh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #83 Date: 11 Feb 1998 21:36:57 -0800 >anybody please could write me lyrics of say it's all mine or let me know a site where i could find them? Check out the Lyrics section of http://www.moby.org If you find any errors please let me know-the document's still in a state of flux (hell, I did it all in one night ;) Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) moby remixing Date: 11 Feb 1998 22:04:15 EST what if he remixed something epic like "the Battlestar Galactica " theme or "Robotech" that would be cool! tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) next is the E CDS for sale Date: 11 Feb 1998 23:09:56 -0600 (CST) i have the US CDS of next is the E for sale - 10$ including shipping to whoever mails me first. again, please do _not_ mail to the maillist. i'll only accept requests to me personally. one unfortunate note i must make about this CD is that the idiot who previously owned this put their initials on the back of the inlay right over moby's chin. the CD's fine, though. seeyuz... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) everything is wrong remix 2xCD for sale Date: 11 Feb 1998 23:26:05 -0600 (CST) sorry i didn't combine this with the other message, but i forgot i had it for sale. anyway, i'll sell it for 20$ including shipping. it's in good condition, it's just that i think you can still get it from mute for a decent price. never been played, either, cos i accidentally bought two and never got around to returning one. anyway, it's the UK pressing of the 2xCD remix album for everything is wrong - Mute records XLCD STUMM 135. please reply personally only. thanks... -- http://www.execpc.com/~danperry/index.html FSOL eno AFX moby VANGELIS dF bjork PSB e dM NUO pg HoJo JJ CH tff TTwins/BABBLE steve.roach vidna.obmana soulwhirlingsomewhere david.sylvian robert.fripp LSeeds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) yikes... SOLD Date: 11 Feb 1998 23:40:36 -0600 (CST) both CDs are accounted for. if something falls through i'll repost their availability. seeyuz... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john-->" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 05 Feb 1998 13:21:29 PST word up- and although this has nothinng to do with anything- i thought = i'd let you know that i think Utah Saints rock bootie!!! i don't know if = they're still around or not- the last time i saw them was on amp sometime= early last year-later- john--:) ---------- > With all this talk of sampling, we can't forget to mention one of my = favorite > bands. The Utah Saints and made up entirely of samples. Supposedly, the= y did > not make one noise themselves. I wish I knew what ever happened to them= ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:31:47 +0100 On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 01:11:44AM -0500, Ryu wrote: Hi, Ryu: > but moby is not really into drugs too much, and i'd be willing to bet that > he records with a chemically free mind. his music probably sounds > dry when you're not. > > any other ideas here? It's true that great genius in our History, created while being under drug's influence or they were just going psychophrenic (sp?), but that doesnt mean you *have to* be out of your mind to do great works. It just change the way you see things. This is my cent (from a person who have never tasted so-called "drugs"). Jonathan. -- 512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: Offtopic: Bran Van "Glee" (was Re: (mobility) bv3k, moby, lfo, etc.) Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:38:09 +0100 On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 12:58:51PM -0800, Paul Simpson wrote: > I saw branvan on 12 angry viewers(note...don't on-list flame me but i > do like mtv)...turns out the cd glee is on Capital rec. now...woohoo. > I must own it... The CD appears as to be released on March 10th (at least that's what I found looking it up on http://massmusic.com) Jonathan. -- 512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Ruh Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing Date: 12 Feb 1998 09:26:09 -0500 (EST) > > what if he remixed something epic like "the Battlestar Galactica " theme or > "Robotech" > that would be cool! > > tripp Yes! Moby and Robotech! That would be just so very awesome. Peace, Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242 Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:41:54 -0500 Yeah, just last night on the radio I heard C-Tech. They're pretty cool. dreamANALYZER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 12 Feb 1998 10:43:32 -0500 Yeah, I heard the Utah Saints on my Mortal Kombat album, tried looking for them, but couldn't find 'em. Whatever happened to them? dreamANALYZER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: (mobility) re:mobility- one-liners Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:00:46 EST hi.. i don't mean to start a fight here. .. i know i don't even post too much. .. but i just want to comment... i didn't check my mail yesterday, and when i opened it today, there were 78 messages.. most of which were from mobility, which is usually great bc i love to read the posts.. but about 1/2 of them were one-liners agreeing with someone else's post.. ex: one post would be "moby should remix so- and- so," and then there would be 3 or 4 replies that just said "yeah" or "awesome!",. .. i mean.. do you really need to post those ? maybe i'm mistaken but i don't think most of us like 25 messages that just say "yeah" or "you're right", ,, i mean, at least add *something*. .. same thing goes for the whole puffy-debate.. if that wasn't annoying enough, 1/2 of the posts were just "i agree with , .. let's try to keep mobility interesting and not like some newsgroup, okay ? thanks for reading this. .. sarah "It occurs to me that I am America. I am talking to myself again." -Allen Ginsberg _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Drugs Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:14:28 +0100 At 10:31 AM 2/12/98 +0100, you wrote: >On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 01:11:44AM -0500, Ryu wrote: > >Hi, Ryu: > >> but moby is not really into drugs too much, and i'd be willing to bet that >> he records with a chemically free mind. his music probably sounds >> dry when you're not. >> >> any other ideas here? >It's true that great genius in our History, created while being under >drug's influence or they were just going psychophrenic (sp?), but that >doesnt mean you *have to* be out of your mind to do great works. It >just change the way you see things. > >This is my cent (from a person who have never tasted so-called "drugs"). > >Jonathan. I agree with this, hey! finally i agree with two members at the same time! and Frank said: "Smoke yor little smoke, drink yor little drink, and d a n c e the night away!" ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:42:18 GMT Well Ryu told me they were going to release a 2CD set which got cut to a one CD and finally that was cut and it never got released. But he said there was on single they released: OHIO. So, I went on a crusade to find this single. I found it on one compilation CD from CDNOW and I found two copies of it, unfortunately only in vinyl, at CDEurope. If anyone has any idea where I can pick up a copy of Ohio for CD, I will pay you loot if you can get it for me. And to make this a relevent Moby Post, I would recomend getting the more common CDs from an online place in case you can't find them where you live. But, my question is this: Has anyone every bought anything from Everycd (1-800-EVERYCD)? They claim to be able to get anything legally released in America, and I just wanted to know if they are reliable? Thanks. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby Date: 12 Feb 1998 13:54:07 -0600 >And to make this a relevent Moby Post, I would recomend getting the more >common CDs from an online place in case you can't find them where you live. I found this cool online CD store called "Cheap or What CD's" http://www.cow.co.uk They're based in the UK and with shipping and handling, you may pay less for a CD than with CDNow or Music Blvd. They also have alot in stock. I tried purchasing some PiL and Cure Import-only CD's from CDNow and it took them 4 weeks just to tell me that they couldn't fulfill my order. I went to COW and it took a few days to send the package. A cool site. Very basic in structure and the Moby selection is vast. One other thing, they can calculate the price in other currencies as well. Neat idea. Scott Steg ...I Love Carrots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Ruh Subject: Re: (mobility) re:mobility- one-liners Date: 12 Feb 1998 14:55:34 -0500 (EST) > > hi.. i don't mean to start a fight here. .. i know i don't even post too > much. .. but i just want to comment... i didn't check my mail yesterday, > and when i opened it today, there were 78 messages.. most of which were > from mobility, which is usually great bc i love to read the posts.. but > about 1/2 of them were one-liners agreeing with someone else's post.. ex: > one post would be "moby should remix so- and- so," and then there would > be 3 or 4 replies that just said "yeah" or "awesome!",. .. i mean.. do > you really need to post those ? maybe i'm mistaken but i don't think most > of us like 25 messages that just say "yeah" or "you're right", ,, i mean, > at least add *something*. .. same thing goes for the whole puffy-debate.. > if that wasn't annoying enough, 1/2 of the posts were just "i agree with > , .. let's try to keep mobility interesting and not > like some newsgroup, okay ? thanks for reading this. .. sarah Sorry. You're right!.... :) Peace, Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RYAN GOSSETT" Subject: (mobility) senseless soundtrack Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:48:06 PST Has anybody heard the Moby track on the senseless soundtrack? I here it is a never before released song. I'm really wondering what genre of Moby song it is (not that it really matters, just curious) If the rest of the album is any good would be helpful also. Thanx Ryan "Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda, circa 1980) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) re:mobility- one-liners Date: 12 Feb 1998 16:08:57 -0500 i agree ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read! [Re: (mobility) one-liners] Date: 12 Feb 1998 15:41:46 -0700 this guy & this guy wrote: > > i agree -- > Sorry. You're right!.... :) Okay, enough!!! I've had a bad day & I'm ready to take it out on someone. What Sarah said made perfect sense and I appreciate her pointing it out. It's something that I should have done because it has been bothering me too. I have always been a strong believer in low noise tolerance - meaning I prefer quality in an email rather than the abundance of it. If you agree with something and feel you must tell someone... then tell the person who sent the email! Give them your support and let them know. Otherwise expand on it and make your response worthwhile to all those who read it. I am going to start un subscribing members who can't get a clue when it comes to posting e-mail to a list that consists of more than 200 subscribers. If anyone has a problem with this then I suggest you bring it up to me. -- damian@xmission.com owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) while i'm at it... more for sale Date: 12 Feb 1998 17:04:21 -0600 (CST) all prices include shipping. again, please reply personally to reduce noise on the list. thanks... moby: 5$ brian eno: fractal zoom DE CD warner bros. W0116CD this CD has the naive mix 1 by moby. the US CD has many more remixes by moby, so this is pretty much for a devout collector only unless you can't find the US CDS for fractal zoom. 10$ shamen: LSI [love-sex-intelligence] AT CD rough trade RTD 130.1384.3 this has make it mine (US dub mix) by moby on it. i'll sell them both together for 13$. other CDs available, too, but not moby related. check out my website for more. -- http://www.execpc.com/~danperry/index.html FSOL eno AFX moby VANGELIS dF bjork PSB e dM NUO pg HoJo JJ CH tff TTwins/BABBLE steve.roach vidna.obmana soulwhirlingsomewhere david.sylvian robert.fripp LSeeds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) MY HP, viruses Date: 12 Feb 1998 16:38:49 -0600 >Oh, if u ever see e-mails w/these subjs., don't open them they are >viruses: > > OPEN: VERY COOL :-) > JOIN THE CREW > RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVERY > GOOD TIMES >my mom works at a library, she gets all kind of notices like that... There is no such thing as an e-mail virus. -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George N Xanthopoulos Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing ?..... Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:30:05 -0500 (EST) a moby remix of depeche mode would definately be most excellent. he already remixed prodigy, way back with the charly e.p. off the prodigy experience. i believe it's the "dance-hall remix" of everybody in the place. it's really good--a little dated, but still good. check it out. have fun. -gx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read! [Re: (mobility) one-liners] Date: 12 Feb 1998 23:54:29 -0700 At 03:41 PM 2/12/98 -0700, you wrote: >this guy & this guy wrote: >> >> i agree >-- >> Sorry. You're right!.... :) > > >Okay, enough!!! > >I've had a bad day & I'm ready to take it out on someone. What Sarah >said made perfect sense >I am going to start un subscribing members who can't get a clue when it >comes to posting e-mail to a list that consists of more than 200 >subscribers. > >If anyone has a problem with this then I suggest you bring it up to me. > >-- >damian@xmission.com Damian, never seen you so mad... I totally agree, but one consideration: Could it be that there are a number of subscribers who are young people 16, 17 years old and very active on the Net and they might just discover the enormous fastness and possibilities of the Net... (something you already got tired of maybe.... i dunno) but I mean, let's all try to be a little considerate.... we're not in school here ye know... (the Delete-button is that little green bucket in the left top corner of your screen) Did you folks already notice that I haven't cursed this whole year??? That's ALL because of Mobility, and Mobility is you! .... and you & you & you & you....! peace ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (mobility) moby remixing Date: 12 Feb 1998 04:03:28 +0000 > >Yes! Moby and Robotech! That would be just so very awesome. > Why not just ask Moby to release a CD of his greatest remixes? I mean the Orb did it.. -- Mark Reed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sunfire647@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) senseless soundtrack Date: 13 Feb 1998 05:49:36 EST The Moby song on the Senseless soundtrack is awesome! It's called 'Garciosa'. It's like 'Oil 1' or 'Go' in a way. It starts out a little slow then it sounds like the Moby we all know and love. The soundtrack has Crystal Method, Fluke, and, Fat Boy Slim on it too. Most of the other songs are rap and r&b but it's worth it just for the Moby song. Let me know what you think... Sunfire647 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read! [Re: (mobility) one-liners] Date: 13 Feb 1998 10:05:25 -0700 it was said: > Could it be that there are a number of subscribers who are young people= 16, > 17 years old and very active on the Net and they might just discover th= e > enormous fastness and possibilities of the Net... (something you alread= y got > tired of maybe.... i dunno) Come on! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be courteous and see that sending "me too" messages, unnecessarily quoting entire messages sigs and all, and going on about completely off-topic things despite the justifiable protests of other list members is both stupid and rude. This list has a few rules, which are reasonable and should be followed. Damian is especially patient and longsuffering with the flagrant violations that turn this sometimes great list into so much noise. It's no fun to have to tell someone to stop sending trash messages to the list, and Damian does so reluctantly. I would rather have 2 or 5 messages a day that have something to do with Moby than 18 content-free postings. It is lamentable that hordes of people are driven onto the net by schools and TV commercials without being instructed or caring to find out how to use it. Sure, there is a learning curve, and posting guidelines don't always need to be adhered to rigidly, but telling clueful people to shut up and press the delete key just adds insult to injury. Trust me, we are not some anal-retentive old email nazis. Things just work better when netiquette is followed. Mobility is a pretty flexible list. I didn't mind the first couple messages about Puffy, relating his use of sampling to Moby's, but obviously three days of "Puffy has no talent", "No, Puffy is great!" messages take their toll on the quality of this list. This list is about Moby, not music in general, not random artists, etc. so let's just try not to encourage acceptable little off-topic aberrations to snowball into an avalanche of electrobung. That's my 2=A2. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: ADMIN MESSAGE - Please Read! [Re: (mobility) one-liners] Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:18:23 GMT Before this conversation starts pissing people off as well, I just want to say that I see blaming this Puffy incident and everything else on 16 and 17 year olds a little harsh. I am only 17, but have the desency to be courteous. Kids are smart, and many are educated. There are plenty of psyco adults runnig around, hell, the newspaper is full of them. It is the ignorant poorly manner people, kids and adults alike, who are doing this. And the truth is that the under 18 generation probably has a better awareness for the internet than the over 18 generation. Maybe they ometimes act immature, but it least they have a reason. Besides, alot of the Techno group is around that age, although, for many, it is only a phase like Rap and R&B. Later. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Daniels" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 13 Feb 1998 16:19:18 -0600 2 things: First of all, the only song I've heard by the Utah Saints was a song I heard on the radio that was recorded with Kate Bush (queen of female singers). Does anybody know the name of this? I love this song and need to hear it again. Second, I think Moby would do a great remix of the X-Files theme. He could also remix Orbital's "The Saint". (one of my favorite all-time songs.) D. ---------- Cc: mobility@lists.xmission.com With all this talk of sampling, we can't forget to mention one of my favorite bands. The Utah Saints and made up entirely of samples. Supposedly, they did not make one noise themselves. I wish I knew what ever happened to them, but they were great and never had one original sound. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 13 Feb 1998 22:34:39 GMT The song is "Something Good." It is not the best Saint song, but it is good, like the rest of the CD. Also, that is the only other Utah Saints CD I have and that is a Good single. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: Re: (mobility) Front 242 Date: 13 Feb 1998 18:49:03 -0600 Yeah, is it any good? At 05:57 PM 2/11/98 -0800, you wrote: >>Has anyone here got the Front 242 remix album that just campe out? I'm an >>old fan of theres and i was wondering if it was any good. >>Keith Forsythe > > >Mutage Mixage has been out for over a year and a half, but it was released >domestically recently. Is that the one? (Orb, Underworld etc.) > > > > > Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: (mobility) Moby mp3's Date: 13 Feb 1998 14:50:25 +0000 Did the people who wanted to receive the weekly Moby mp3 get them? I never got mine Thanks RT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mp3's Date: 13 Feb 1998 22:05:48 EST i got my mp3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: RE: (mobility) RE: Date: 13 Feb 1998 19:43:28 PST >Can anyone else think of any cool little jingles that they would like to = >hear Moby cover? (I'm thinking in the vein of theme songs or commercial = >jingles.) > >Todd Huss > > yeah i was thinking the X-files theme . evil ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: RE: (mobility) RE: Date: 13 Feb 1998 19:46:27 PST >Can anyone else think of any cool little jingles that they would like to = >hear Moby cover? (I'm thinking in the vein of theme songs or commercial = >jingles.) > >Todd Huss > > yeah i was thinking the X-files theme . evil ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mp3's Date: 13 Feb 1998 23:28:46 -0600 (CST) At 10:05 PM 2/13/98 EST, you wrote: >i got my mp3 To comphensate for this lack of post, I also requested the Moby MP3 of the week, and never recieved anything. As a matter of fact I also contacted Carmen on several other manners, which I got vague, indirect answers to. The person you want to mail on this subject is JadenX@aol.com. Bug the hell out of him. :) On another note, finally picked up Ambient and Early Underground today. Noticed Moby "borrowed" many parts from songs released under his surnames for remixes (UHF3 to the Club Mix of "Next is The E", anyone?). While in some cases I don't mind it, I'd like to know if most of this came under pressure from Instinct, rather than Moby being too lazy to properly remix a track... *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FlameANUS@aol.com Subject: (mobility) mail Date: 14 Feb 1998 04:41:30 EST name: Kaysee age: 14 collection: Everything is Wrong, Go, forget the name of the last one first heard: cousin, long time ago favorite artists: u zic, squarepusher ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby mp3's Date: 14 Feb 1998 10:07:46 -0600 -----Original Message----- >Noticed Moby "borrowed" many parts from songs released under his surnames >for remixes (UHF3 to the Club Mix of "Next is The E", anyone?). While in >some cases I don't mind it, I'd like to know if most of this came under >pressure from Instinct, rather than Moby being too lazy to properly remix a >track... > I don't think Instinct had much to do with it, as Moby has continued the practice. Alone on Animal Rights uses the same chord progression as Great Lake on End of Everything and Dead City from Little Idiot. Blue Light of the Underwater Sun uses parts of Ul He Fu, etc. and etc. So I vote for laziness. BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: (mobility) Senseless Date: 14 Feb 1998 17:57:41 -0800 Have we already discussed the Senseless soundtrack? I think so...hmm...Anyway, I listened to the Moby track today and it sounds like a minor remix of First Cool Hive; Moby's past couple of tracks have been rather weak-I really hope he's not stagnating.... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) Senseless Date: 14 Feb 1998 17:42:36 -0600 (CST) At 05:57 PM 2/14/98 -0800, you wrote: >Have we already discussed the Senseless soundtrack? >I think so...hmm...Anyway, I listened to the Moby track today and it sounds >like a minor remix of First Cool Hive; Moby's past couple of tracks have >been rather weak-I really hope he's not stagnating.... On this subject, I'd like to bring up another point; can anyone encode this track in MP3? I'd rather not spend $12 on a CD which includes many tracks I already own on other CDs...anyone up for the task? >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: >http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "pmc" Subject: (mobility) lyrics Date: 15 Feb 1998 01:08:19 +0100 please, could anybody write me or give me a site where i could find = lyricks of say it's all mine? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics Date: 14 Feb 1998 16:50:26 PST > >please, could anybody write me or give me a site where i could find = >lyricks of say it's all mine? > > i don't know if these are right but they are close i did not write these myself i downloaded a file of abunch moby lyrics idont know whose page it was but i give credit to those who made it ----------- Say It's All Mine Well I know it's over Like a waste of mind Well I know it's side ball I can't seem to find Like a waste of someone Like a wasted home Well I know it's over I know it's over long Did you ever slip inside my ozone I saw it in my eyes Ever slip into me baby? And I know it's mine I gotta say it's all mine With so low Well I know it's not mine With so much Well I say it's all mine With so low And I know it's not mine Well it's solace baby I saw the face of mine You took my hand and held on For the longest time I was always looking to be the one for you It could have been so perfect If I still lied at you And I want to scream inside you no-one Did you ever look at me I saw a place where I was open Now it will die mine I gotta say it's all mine When no man When I know it's not mine With so much When I'm faking the lies With so low I gotta say it's all mine Gotta say it's all mine Wanna say it's all mine Gonna say it's all mine It was so good It was so good It was so good It was so good It was so good It was so good It was so mine I gotta say it's all mine With so low When I know it's not mine It's over And I can face it no lie With so much Well I know it's not mine With so low I know it's not mine With so much I gotta face it's a lie With so low I know it's not mine With so far I gotta place it's a lie It was so good So good Say it's so good Say it's so good Say it's so good Say it's so good Say it's so good just out to help another M O B Y fan we kick ass ********************************************************************** Evil Ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i do not want this don't you tell me how i feel you don't know just how i feel ---------------nine inch nails---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby Date: 15 Feb 1998 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) has anyone ever heard of Sven Vath? there's a disc by Sven Vath/Moby called MixMag Vol. 2 on an online Cd company. Does anyone know if this is indeed moby and/or is it any good? --marjorana ps--the company is Advance Import Music mail order (Canada) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics Date: 15 Feb 1998 12:16:01 -0800 >please, could anybody write me or give me a site where i could find lyricks of say it's all mine? The lyrics section of www.moby.org Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sicktodeth@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby Date: 15 Feb 1998 12:55:00 EST In a message dated 98-02-15 12:27:29 EST, you write: << has anyone ever heard of Sven Vath? there's a disc by Sven Vath/Moby called MixMag Vol. 2 on an online Cd company. Does anyone know if this is indeed moby and/or is it any good? >> sven vath is a wonderful trance dj from over in the uk. supposedly he is a god over there, but that is going by the liner notes in the cd. as far as the moby portion of the cd, yes in fact it is moby. the music tends to fall a little more on the ambient side but not conclusively. a good number of the songs he plays on the cd are not available on his more readily available cds. worth buying jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby Date: 15 Feb 1998 11:23:01 -0700 Marjorana Karathanasis wrote: > has anyone ever heard of Sven Vath? there's a disc by Sven Vath/Moby > called MixMag Vol. 2 on an online Cd company. Does anyone know if this is > indeed moby and/or is it any good? It's a nice mixed CD. The first half is DJed by Sven Vath (known for his trance hit "An Accident In Paradise", among other things) and the second half is DJed by Moby. They spin other people's songs, and throw in some of their own. The CD has a somewhat relaxing trance/ house feeling. Moby has three of his own songs in the mix: "C3 Bells", "Go (Subliminal Mix)", and "Next Is The E (Intro Mix)". "C3 Bells" is a previously unreleased remix of "Myopia", with a canned beat from the EYTM remix competition samples thrown in. "Next Is The E (Intro Mix)", which is actually used as an outtro to this CD, is a nice short semi-ambient take on the beautiful song, with pretty piano sprinkles over synth strings. MixMag Vol. 2 is a nice CD to listen to, but it's not likely to be one that you'll play all the time. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FlameANUS@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics Date: 15 Feb 1998 15:19:37 EST WHEN YOU GET THE LYRICS TO SAY ITS ALL MINE COULD YOU PLEASE SENT THEM TO ME, ID REALLY APPRECIATE IT. "WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING REAL WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING TRUE WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING REAL IN THIS WORLD FULL OF YOU" (I WANT TRENT REZNOR) NINE INCH NAILS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FlameANUS@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby Date: 15 Feb 1998 15:22:09 EST MIXMAG VOL, 2 IS THE REAL MOBY(THE ONE WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT) AND SVEN VATH. SVEN VATH IS LIKE THE BEST TECHNO GUY FROM FRANCE AND HE IS PRETTY GOOD. THE CD IS ALSO A GOOD ONE, IT HAS COOL SONGS FROM BOTH ARTISTS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e) Date: 15 Feb 1998 18:03:48 EST I think at the time Moby just probably liked that chord progression, i've done that with a few of my tracks. Moby has also done recent songs which are named differently but basicly are the same songs. I wouldn't hold it against him. I just consider it a progression of the original and leave it at that. dj tripp p.s. i love the fact that next is the e turns into N.I.T.E. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy27@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby Date: 15 Feb 1998 18:24:01 EST Hey marjorana I have seen that CD before and all I can tell you is that it is a recording of one of Moby's concerts...Sven Vath is some other artist that they used....they (MixMag) generally keeps there live albums within two artists....so I so, if you like it, go for it.... Fil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage Date: 15 Feb 1998 20:17:48 +0000 What does everybody think about this new style of house known as speed garage? I think the warped bass line sounds are just irresistable and give off a nice underground vibe. Does anyone think Moby will incorporate this style into his music for his new album? I personally don't think he will but it would be interesting. RT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) lyrics Date: 15 Feb 1998 21:32:10 EST On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:19:37 EST FlameANUS@aol.com writes: >WHEN YOU GET THE LYRICS TO SAY ITS ALL MINE COULD YOU PLEASE SENT THEM >TO ME, >ID REALLY APPRECIATE IT. yo yo yo: has anyone else noticed. . when you ask about lyrics. . .the answer is always "go to www.moby.org". . .always. . .no matter what song. . . so you don't need to ask anymore, OK? s. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pedersen, Trond Erik" Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage Date: 16 Feb 1998 07:28:00 +0100 I fell totally for speed garage when I first heard it. From my point of view I don't think SG is very inovative tho'. It mostly is "light-jungle" and early drum'n'bass inspired music adapted more to the dancefloor than the two mentioned. Very cool and impossible to sit still and listen to... you just hafta move to it. I do not believe that Moby will turn this way, unless he is in a really experimental-remix-state-of-mind sometime. However, it had been mostly appreciated by this guy to see Moby turning this way. I believe that Moby will turn more into "acoustic"/guitar based music with old-school techno beats and also some trance/ambient inspired tracks. BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles of music? Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite? Trond. >What does everybody think about this new style of house >known as speed garage? I think the warped bass line sounds >are just irresistable and give off a nice underground vibe. >Does anyone think Moby will incorporate this style into his >music for his new album? I personally don't think he will >but it would be interesting. >RT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage Date: 16 Feb 1998 00:51:00 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Pedersen, Trond Erik wrote: > I fell totally for speed garage when I first heard it. From my point of > view I don't think SG is very inovative tho'. It mostly is > "light-jungle" and early drum'n'bass inspired music adapted more to the > dancefloor than the two mentioned. Very cool and impossible to sit still > and listen to... you just hafta move to it. i love it! i don't think it's at all musical most of the time, but anything armand van helden has done in the past couple of years is really good. i love his tori and goldie remixes! fyi, logic records will be releasing a speed garage comp by next month. get it! > BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles > of music? > Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite? when i interviewed moby in november, he said that he really enjoyed d&b. i'm pretty sure he won't turn to d&b or SG. he's much too musical. maybe lopez? or remixes? -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) for miss t Date: 16 Feb 1998 00:56:23 -0600 (CST) miss t! i lost your address. i have that moby tape for you. please send me your addy again. sorry to bother ya'll. -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) voodoo child Date: 16 Feb 1998 02:18:35 -0700 i really need to know about the voodoo child thing. i've been listening to 'the end of everything' and i notice some similarity to this release to the voodoo child mixes of some moby songs. i know voodoo child to be moby, however, what is the idea behind voodoo child,evil ninja, little idiot? i'm a moby fan for about 2 years, and i just stumbled across this now. late, i know. 'end of everything' is great. am i right in thinking voodoo child to be the ambient/trancy part of the moby crew? some of the synths on this release make me think of depeche mode circa vince clark era. soundtrack to my night danny Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) moby vids Date: 16 Feb 1998 05:18:45 -0700 any chance of elektra or mute releasing a moby video compilation? live video? yeah this question's been asked before....i'm sure. just wanted to know jedi-spice Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SpeakNeasy@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) CD Stores Online for Moby Date: 16 Feb 1998 08:28:25 EST I have it and it is indeed fantastic. I really like the next is the e remix! Theo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child Date: 16 Feb 1998 08:50:12 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Dan Legare wrote: > i really need to know about the voodoo child thing. i've been listening to > 'the end of everything' and i notice some similarity to this release to the > voodoo child mixes of some moby songs. i know voodoo child to be moby, > however, what is the idea behind voodoo child,evil ninja, little idiot? i'm > a moby fan for about 2 years, and i just stumbled across this now. late, i > know. well, he's told me that voodoo child and lopez etc. are names he uses for his tracks that don't fit into his more mainstream moby sound. his more repetitive, deeper house tracks are usualy found on his own record label, trophy. i've only heard "emptiness" and the voodoo child album, but i love them both. if anyone out there wants to get rid of any 12"s from trophy (other than emptiness and the dog heaven single) i'd be happy to exchange them for cash. i'm having trouble getting my hands on them. later, -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: RE: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage Date: 16 Feb 1998 10:12:33 -0500 >BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles >of music? >Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite? he says that he likes it...and likes to hear it at a club, but when it cums to bringing it into his own home, he considers it to be "musical wallpaper" because like most of the dance music he's heard, it lacks personality. i think that his oppinion is changing now though. i'm not sure if it's because of "animal rights" or if he's just seeing things differently. or maybe it has to do with a few electronic music bands going mainstream in the last 2 years. but i'd expect some floor fillers on this next album. love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e) Date: 16 Feb 1998 11:23:35 -0600 (CST) At 06:03 PM 2/15/98 EST, you wrote: >I think at the time Moby just probably liked that chord progression, i've done >that with a few of my tracks. Moby has also done recent songs which are named >differently but basicly are the same songs. I wouldn't hold it against him. I >just consider it a progression of the original and leave it at that. I suppose. Trent Reznor is another person famous for ripping himself off like that, and I know many people who do similar mixes and give them alternate names, out of those names come entirely different remixes. In essence, it usually works out. However, I disagree that Moby's newest tracks are basically old songs (not having heard Gracosia or however it's spelled) but simply songs with minor similarities. The only similarity I can see is possibly Anthem and Oil 1, but they're not similar enough to discard as facsimile songs. >dj tripp >p.s. i love the fact that next is the e turns into N.I.T.E. Hehehe, it's quite novel... *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage Date: 16 Feb 1998 11:27:38 -0600 (CST) At 08:17 PM 2/15/98 +0000, you wrote: >What does everybody think about this new style of house >known as speed garage? I think the warped bass line sounds >are just irresistable and give off a nice underground vibe. New style of house? Wow. I've never actually heard speed garage, but judging by the name I assumed it was just another spin-off of gabber. ;P If you can actually dance to it, I'm all for it. >Does anyone think Moby will incorporate this style into his >music for his new album? I personally don't think he will >but it would be interesting. Probably not, but you never know... >RT *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) speed garage Date: 16 Feb 1998 10:46:27 -0800 (PST) yes, what is all this hoo-hah about speed garage? I have the new goldie single, and i personally think the remix by van helden and its dub reprise arent really that good. It just sounds like house music to me. And I don't like his daft punk remix, which samples another song from their album but not the one its remixing. If Moby did go jungle that would be way kool. Almost as kool as him remixing Heathcliff or Inspector Gadget. I mean, the closest to jungle he ever went was like the first few seconds of Everythime you Touch Me. That's not really even jungle. Now we all know who Moby himself has remixed, and what we think he should remix, but I'm wondering: Who do we think should remix Moby? I mean most remixes of Moby are by himself right? (Kind of like FSOL, they don't hire much outside remixers.) I know Laurent Garnier and Jam n Spoon and members of this mailing list have remixed him, but who else should? I think Aphex Twin or Squarepusher remixing Moby would be phat. Or a really hardcore jungle DJ. That'd be awesome. Like if Moby won't go jungle, he could just have someone who is remix him! cheers == Adios Amigos, ~~PAUL~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Adair" Subject: (mobility) moby's gone jungle Date: 16 Feb 1998 19:00:57 -0000 actually, moby's already done jungle -- the nyc jungle mix of everytime you touch me. stuart _____________________ \_ .:stuart adair:. /___ :dubstar::moby::scrawn&lard::eddieizzard:| "i'm / / stu042@bigfoot.com \_________ :bigbeat:::interactivefiction:| covered / / stuart.adair@stud.umist.ac.uk _) :terrypratchett::::drum&bass:| in \ \/\ c.floor homepage back up! (_ /\ :zxspectrum::::fatboyslim:| beees!" \__/ http://cfloor.home.ml.org [__)/ \_ :quake:kenickie:[frenzi]| -(e.i) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby & Speed Garage Date: 16 Feb 1998 12:35:06 -0700 Pedersen, Trond Erik wrote: > BTW, anyone know what Moby thinks of Jungle, D&B, SG and similar styles > of music? From the Animal Rights interview: "I like jungle a lot. There again I think it is kind of like musical wallpaper, where to me it does all sound the same. You know if I'm in a nightclub and they're playing jungle, it sounds great to me and I love it and I'll dance to it a little bit. But on a song level, it never really excites me. It, you know, just works as sort of like the musical equivalent of graphic design. You know, something you enjoy coming in contact with, but not something you want to bring into your house." -Moby > Could be awsome to see him turn this way, rite? Nah, waste of his talent. Besides, I don't think he could outdo the D&B guys that are already there. We can expect more introspective moody electronic pieces from Moby in the near future, and it would be nice if he would release some more exciting techno music, like he used to do when he was on Instinct Records, and in the early Mute days. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 14:59:18 -0500 this list sucks anymore. i'm not afraid to say it. the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave". but i won't go. because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of the people on this list neglect. there was an argument a while back where a decision was made to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk about release dates and similar boring things. what interests me in moby, and draws me into his music is his personal beliefs and feelings. these things are tabboo on this list. and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit here and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer. especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway. there is a link to any fact on moby from his page. go there if you want lyrics, track listings, etc.... the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense, and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby news right now. so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT MOBY'S INSIDES? to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well. my question is this: moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...). so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act about? is there room for everyone to set their priorities? and is it a personal decision to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority? and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are all his songs about his own problems with love relationships? is that i violation of what he believes? granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself as much as he wants. i violate myself sometimes twice daly! ok. please someone say something that interests me (and many of the others that have been here for a while). thank you for reading this much. love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's gone jungle Date: 16 Feb 1998 12:54:28 -0700 Stuart Adair wrote: > actually, moby's already done jungle -- the nyc jungle mix of everytime you > touch me. That's a nice remix, but really weak "jungle". Though I'm sure I'll enjoy any excursions Moby makes into drum & bass, he should probably leave the serious jungle to the pros and trade remixes with them. He could turn their 'musical wallpaper' into neat emotional songs, while they take his material and mash it up! My favorite track of Moby's that wonderfully fuses junglistic canned beats with emotional pianos & strings is "Unloved Symphony". It's not jungle, but it's great. As a side note, I was kind of disappointed with Grooverider's remix of the James Bond Theme. Even though it was cool and fun, I kept expecting the drums to go crazy and explode at any moment. They didn't. It had a good bassline, though. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 13:43:25 -0700 i have to agree w/ Ryu here. i just signed on to the list a few weeks ago, and although i've found some things interesting, most have been kinda boring. i am just a beginning moby fan, and this list has helped me a lot in finding out things about singles & aliases and such, but i want to learn more about MOBY, and not just his music. his music is wonderful, and i like the fact that there are diff't mixes of the same things because all things can be said in diff't ways and still mean the same thing. there's more to a person that just their music. that's my two cents anyway. as for the issues.. there are many things out there to be active about. everywhere u turn, there is injustice that's worth fighting against. some ppl take it overboard (i.e. christian coalition and PETA), but they're still fighting against it. what i like about MOBY is the fact that he's done research.. like in his everything is wrong CD. i find that really great that he knows what he is fighting for.. and is trying to educate others. some ppl educate the wrong way, with violence. sometimes, i think ppl worry too much over things... and sometimes not enough. i think society has gotten to a point where everyone is fighting.. they're not longer listening to each other, just fighting. when you have everyone each yelling a diff't thing, it gets confusing and u don't know who to listen to. i guess what i'm trying to say is that it's OK to fight for stuff, but sometimes u have to listen to others to fully fight for a right. so, it's your decision as to what u want to fight for... just be prepared to battle. you have to know what your fighting for, or else you'll get trampled. and maybe moby wants something else to write music about. i know that's the way i am. some things i fight for verbally, others i write down. sometimes you want to get off your soapbox for a little bit and take a break. i hope this doesn't insult anyone, because that's the last thing i want to do... and Ryu, i hope this is what u were looking for. this has probably been the only thing i really wanted to reply to. but i'd like to thank the list for helping me find out more about moby's music. i actually know what to look for now... it's like turning on a light switch in a cluttered room... no more bumping into hard objects and bruising my knees. :P Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ ---------- > From: Ryu > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) moby has left the list > Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 12:59 PM > > this list sucks anymore. > i'm not afraid to say it. > the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave". > but i won't go. > > because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of > the people on this list neglect. > there was an argument a while back where a decision was made > to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk > about release dates and similar boring things. > > what interests me in moby, and draws me into his music is his > personal beliefs and feelings. these things are tabboo on this list. > and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit here > and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer. > especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway. > there is a link to any fact on moby from his page. go there if you > want lyrics, track listings, etc.... > > the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense, > and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby > news right now. so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT > MOBY'S INSIDES? > > to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm > if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well. > > my question is this: > > moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those > the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...). > so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act about? > is there room for everyone to set their priorities? and is it a personal > decision > to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority? > and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are > all his songs about his own problems with love relationships? is that i > violation > of what he believes? granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself as > much as he wants. i violate myself sometimes twice daly! > > ok. please someone say something that interests me (and many of the others that > have been here for a while). thank you for reading this much. > > love, > ryu > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional > electronic music. To hear some, get cds, > and see stuff, go to my homepage at: > http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "whiterat" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:50:50 -0500 Jon/Ryu this is mark, I realize the last time i mailed you was (again) a while back, Weird about the money, which I did send you...I guess some crazed postal employee stole it (oh, well, I've wasted 20 bucks on worse things before) I've been silent on the list for the prcise reason you mentioned-I think that there is no good reason not to discuss philosophy on the list, and furthermore that if Damien acts too stringently upon the list (he doesn't care about quality as much as some weird rule being broken-rules I find on no other list) anyways, I'd love to continue our aborted discussion oon life, love, philosophy, art, and music (your cd is now throughout europe, i sent a tape to austria, and he asked me for a cd, so I used my friends japanese cd recorder to dub your cd, 3 times 2 copies of which are i paris, and one in germany) love mark "Dreams are no longer summoned with closed eyes, but in reading" -michel foucault Closer-the dennis cooper web resource www.ameriserv.net/closer -----Original Message----- >this list sucks anymore. >i'm not afraid to say it. >the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave". >but i won't go. > >because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of >the people on this list neglect. >there was an argument a while back where a decision was made >to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk >about release dates and similar boring things. > >what interests me in moby, and draws me into his music is his >personal beliefs and feelings. these things are tabboo on this list. >and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit here >and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer. >especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway. >there is a link to any fact on moby from his page. go there if you >want lyrics, track listings, etc.... > >the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense, >and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby >news right now. so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT >MOBY'S INSIDES? > >to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm >if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well. > >my question is this: > >moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those >the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...). >so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act about? >is there room for everyone to set their priorities? and is it a personal >decision >to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority? >and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are >all his songs about his own problems with love relationships? is that i >violation >of what he believes? granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself as >much as he wants. i violate myself sometimes twice daly! > >ok. please someone say something that interests me (and many of the others that >have been here for a while). thank you for reading this much. > >love, >ryu > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional > electronic music. To hear some, get cds, > and see stuff, go to my homepage at: >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FlameANUS@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:20:33 EST Ryu, I admire you. Your absolutely right about the bullshit people talk about. There is more to a person than shown. Everyone does something for a reason, and I want to know Mobys reasons. Im sure they reflect the utopian society his wishes the world was. Personally, I dislike most christians because they try to poison there kids into believing in something, when what they should do is let the kid decide. Dont get me wrong, there are a lot of very cool christians, moby being one of them, but they scare little kids away from hell, not ever really making them like heaven. Its all the kids choice. I support Moby, unless he is just a great speaker and not a great actor. If anyone ever interviews him, please ask him some "deep" questions concerning how his music reflects what he believes in. Christianity is fine, if you follow it correctly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FlameANUS@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:30:13 EST great gospel session guys, i think we shouldnt stray too far off coarse though. Its really is great to get to know a little something about everyone you are talking to; but, we wont be talking that much longer after they kick us off the list for forgetting moby. We should all add our 2 cents worth while talking about moby. Plovious and ryu, i respect you both. You know what we should do, we should have our own church of Moby. Then everyone, including myself, can bitch about politics, religion, philosophy, while still on the subject of moby!!!! Its just a though, but what the hell, most of us have nothing else to do. Jackin it gets old, and talking about moby lyrics gets even older. Someone interview him damnit, figure this stuff out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marjorana Karathanasis Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:54:47 -0500 (EST) Yahoo for Ryu. Finally some passion for Moby can be shown and a little philosophy thrown on the table. I just re-read the essay inside of Voodoo Child/ End of Everything and the argument he uses to debunk all the carnivores, essentially that why would anyone choose to create more suffering in the world? I think Moby's music on this album follows very tightly with this message in that this very mellow ambient album makes me feel very at peace. I also find that Feeling so real agitates me to a point of blind righteousness and when I listen to it I know exactly how moby feels when he thinks about all the injustice that he writes about in his essays. I think there are a lot of correlations between the two (Music and personal ethic), I just think Moby chooses to prioritize with the vegetarian thing and the environment because these are things we can all do as individuals without "fighting" per se, but just making conscious choices that take into account the rest of this vast universe that we are inherently connected to. Because we are connected, by not making our home and animals--inextricable parts of ourselves--suffer, consequently we do not suffer and move one step closer to utopia. Okay, I said my thought of the moment. I'd love to join this little Moby church if this kind of talk is violating mobility. --marjorana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:13:50 GMT Now that I have read 20 minutes worth of 4 posts, I feel the need to respond. I have not been here for more than a month, but I have noticed that you are all right. However, I don't know if every post, or even the majority, should be about personal moby. For myself, I like hearing about Moby's songs, because everyone here has shown me how little I actually know. I had 16 Moby CDs and thought I was a hot shot. I guess I was wrong. I would like to know about Moby, but not to the point that I know more about him than myself. In my mind, It would be kind of violating him to examine every move he makes. If you think we should examine, then lets examine him through his songs. Who cares about where he lives, or what color clothes he wears unless he wrote a song about him. I mean, sure I don't like the "I think he should remix Heathcliff" or something like that, but how deep do we have to get. If you are going to go that far, at least put a little (W) to warn me in your title so I can prepare myself to read the post. Well....To qoute the great Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong." Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ultraviolet" Subject: (mobility) Sanford and Son / DnB Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:19:44 -0600 Just for the record, I have been working on a remix of the Sanford and Son theme. I started it prior to someone suggesting it on this list. That is, I didn't copy the idea, I already had it!! Anyway, formalities aside, I am annoyed by "drum and bass". The style is too closed for me. The same goes for jungle. It doesn't allow enough freedom. The preset "genre" is too strict in design. (The way its "supposed" to sound.) That's my opinion. OK, enough said. RRR || R| Erasure: Delobbo Remix .MP3's: http://members.xoom.com/delobbo || P| 242.cure.depeche_MODE.erasure.megadeth.moby.|\|||/|.nitzer_ebb.U2. || D| alice_in_chains.marilyn_manson.ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:22:17 -0700 a church, huh? hmmm... it'd be the first i'd attend in yrs! maybe one i'd acutally agree with! :) glad to see that ppl agree w/ this. but i don't see how this is straying off the course, because this is still about MOBY. it's not about his music, per say, but about him. i have a question, does MOBY actually read this list @ times... does he even know it exists? it's probably a dumb question, and probably already asked... i'm just curious. maybe if he looked at the stuff asked (whenever stuff is asked), he'd know what questions ppl want answered. it'd be great to get some feedback from him, because he knows the answers. we can't just assume the answers... remember, when u assume.... . .. . . ;) Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ ---------- > From: FlameANUS@aol.com > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list > Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 2:30 PM > > great gospel session guys, i think we shouldnt stray too far off coarse > though. Its really is great to get to know a little something about everyone > you are talking to; but, we wont be talking that much longer after they kick > us off the list for forgetting moby. We should all add our 2 cents worth > while talking about moby. Plovious and ryu, i respect you both. You know > what we should do, we should have our own church of Moby. Then everyone, > including myself, can bitch about politics, religion, philosophy, while still > on the subject of moby!!!! Its just a though, but what the hell, most of us > have nothing else to do. Jackin it gets old, and talking about moby lyrics > gets even older. Someone interview him damnit, figure this stuff out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part one Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:32:27 -0600 -----Original Message----- >this list sucks anymore. >i'm not afraid to say it. >the most common reply to a sentence like that is "then leave". >but i won't go. > Good, we love you too much >because there is too much to moby to talk about that 99% of >the people on this list neglect. >there was an argument a while back where a decision was made >to NOT talk about moby's filosophy and beliefs and to only talk >about release dates and similar boring things. > I remember the discussion, but I don't remember that outcome. I might have missed something, but I thought the concensus (or at least my view) was that Moby's views, philosophies and beliefs were as much a part of this discussion as his music, especially since he goes to such trouble to make them known in his album linear notes. I think Moby's intent is to cause discussion, not stifle it. I remember someone suggesting a separate list for philosophical and religious topics, but I have yet to see any actual list materialize. So, until then, I say this is the place for that kind of talk. >what interests me in moby, and draws me into his music is his >personal beliefs and feelings. > True, it was Moby's religious beliefs that first made me take notice of him, regardless of how I may or may not agree with him all the time. The music is what hooked me, but his beliefs are certainly relevant in an ongoing discussion among fans. these things are tabboo on this list. >and if it means i'll be thrown off for it, so be it...but i can't sit here >and read stuff about issues that are secondary to me any longer. >especially when i can simply go to dan's page and get all that anyway. >there is a link to any fact on moby from his page. go there if you >want lyrics, track listings, etc.... > I hope I don't get thrown off, either. I like people to like me. >the reason this list has been having problems with puff daddy nonsense, >and simple "me too" replies is BECAUSE there isn't a whole lot of moby >news right now. so WHY THE HADES NOT DON'T WE TALK ABOUT >MOBY'S INSIDES? > >to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm >if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well. > >my question is this: > >moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those >the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...). >so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act about? >is there room for everyone to set their priorities? and is it a personal >decision >to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority? >and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are >all his songs about his own problems with love relationships? is that i >violation >of what he believes? granted, he's human and allowed to violate himself as >much as he wants. i violate myself sometimes twice daly! > >ok. please someone say something that interests me (and many of the others that >have been here for a while). thank you for reading this much. > >love, >ryu > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional > electronic music. To hear some, get cds, > and see stuff, go to my homepage at: >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part two Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:50:59 -0600 -----Original Message----- >to be a hypocrite....i will bring up a topic that i'd have an orgasm >if someone would reply and add some of their personal sentiments as well. > >my question is this: > >moby says that there are more important inssues in the world than those >the christian right preaches (condoms, skematics of the bible, etc...). >so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act about? >is there room for everyone to set their priorities? and is it a personal >decision to make yapping about teens having sex your number one priority? >and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are >all his songs about his own problems with love relationships? is that i >violation of what he believes? granted, he's human and allowed to violate >himself as much as he wants. i violate myself sometimes twice daly! > By a matter of semantics, I could be said to be a member of the religious right. I hold traditional and orthodox Christian beliefs and am politically conservative. However, I split ideologically from many of my brethren and sistren when it comes to the cultural expression of those beliefs. I take very seriously Jesus' admonitions that personal righteousness includes not judging others. I also can't quite jibe the Christian Coalition's supposed pro-life stance with their support of capital punishment and lack of concern over the environment. The Catholic's "Seamless Garment" is a much more comprehensive document which takes more than just abortion into account when defining a truly pro-life theology. For the longest time, this was the signature file to all of my email: "There seems, by the way, to be nothing pending in the Christian Coalition`s political wish list about sheltering the homeless, feeding the hungry, or clothing the naked, unless, of course, the naked got that way for fun." - Tom Teepen, Cox News Service. But it's important to note that most of the nation's social ills directly mirror the rising liberalization of our sexual attitudes and actions. I don't think that is coincidental. I also don't think getting people to stop having sex outside of marriage will be a panacea to all that ails us. But when cultural attitudes about sex do not include committment, there is a weakening of the familial structure that is the moral foundation of our culture. The answer, however, I believe lies in education and integrity in personal relationships rather than legislation. Good schools, strong churches, and elimination of poverty (rather than creating a dependant class) are the key. All involve personal choices over social engineering. If the Christian Coalition or American Family Association started steering their political contributions towards creating jobs and training for the poor, it would probably do more to encourage social morality than 100 years of preaching. There are Christian organizations that do good work. Evangelicals for Social Action, Green Cross, Compassion International, all geared towards making real life, spiritually based actions towards "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." Is Moby a hypocrite for the apparent dichotomy between his words, actions and art? Yes. He's said so himself. Read the linear notes to Everything is Wrong. The point is, everyone's a hypocrite. Our actions fall short of our ideals, no matter who we are, no exceptions. Of course, it seems Moby's art is about his emotions and impulses, and he balances that by making his notes about his beliefs and ideals, even when they may contradict each other. Jesus said being honest about our sins and short comings is more important than being good. God wants humble servants, not proud judges. Humans who act on principle because of their love and desire to please the creator realizing all goodness comes from God. We cannot measure up on our own. If we stand, it's only by God's provision. And if we fall, we fall on God's grace that covers all transgressions. If our actions and intentions are not motivated by love, then they are pointless. Faith without works is dead. But works without faith are only wood. Sorry for the sermon. I don't mean to proseletyze via the list. But it seems Moby's spirituality seems to have a handle on these tenets. He wants to serve God according to his conscience, recognizing that he is a fallen creature in need of redemption. He says his personal spiritual epiphany came from reading Matthew 5-7, Christ's "Sermon On the Mount." Not a bad place to start if you want to find a practical, working philosophy for Christianity. BSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:54:13 -0700 Michaela Gerstner wrote: > i have a question, does MOBY actually read this list @ times... does he > even know it exists? Moby knows about this list, but I don't know whether he has ever got a chance to read anything from it. This list was started more than a year and a half after Moby canceled his Internet account, and as far as I know, he hasn't established a new one. He does pop online when he's doing a chat or something like that, and has seen some web pages including Samu's and mine. Mobility archives are available on my site, but I don't know if he ever looked at them. AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com wrote: > Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby > about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow > that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Moby has some good points about why we should not eat animals or otherwise cause suffering. I think that because of what he and others on this this list have said, this issue has been brought closer to the foreground of my consciousness, and as such I think have decreased my meat intake. I am not ready a full vegetarian, but I think there has been some effect. I don't have a car, but I plan to get one, simply because it is practically a necessity in America in 1998. At the moment, I jog or bike or take a bus to go places, but it's not a very good situation. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose M. Cordoba" Subject: (mobility) Re: Sampling (Utah Saints) Date: 16 Feb 1998 17:58:56 -0500 UTAH SAINTS!! My other favorite group! Here's what I know: After their first album, I know they released a single for the Brit movie SHOPPING including the tracks "I still Think of You" and "Highlander" as well as a CJ Bolland mix of "Highlander" and a live version of "Something Good". I was very fortunate to find this at the local Tower Records, but I have never seen another copy of it. They also released the single "Ohio" with a couple of mixes on it. Good single but not as strong as "I still Think of You" which is excellent. I read somewhere of another promotional single called "Star" being released, but I've never seen or heard it. They had trouble with releasing their CD which was supposed to include an interactive part and was supposed to come out years ago. Last I heard, though, was that they were shooting a new video in New York City so things are looking up! Here's a good site: http://w3.adb.gu.se/~s94dalle/utah/utah.html BTW Ryu, if you're reading this... they may still have a copy of OHIO at my local Tower Records. I'll check it out and let you know. JMC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 15:24:36 -0800 AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com wrote: > Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby > about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow > that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later. > This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. I think of it this way... Moby is the sort of role model I want to spire to be like, but because of my current situations, I can't. I WISH I could be as dedicated to veganism and getting rid of cars as Moby is. But the fact of the matter is, my university cafeteria does not serve healthy food, and I have to eat the meat. And even more than that, I need my car to get around. I couldn't live my kind of lifestyle without a car. And I don't know how Moby does it. I guessing he takes a lot of busses (which I do), and bums rides off friends (which I also do). Anyway, I think Moby is a great role model, and his sentiments are noble. I try my best, but I can't get rid of my car. It's not going to happen until I can afford an electric or solar powered vehicle. That's my two cents. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle Date: 16 Feb 1998 18:31:09 EST I'd have to say Moby's b-side "Dark" is my favorite psuedo-jungle track. The name fits it perfectly. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child Date: 16 Feb 1998 18:35:36 EST I'm wondering why Moby put out such a mellow album as V.C.? all the other V.C. stuff is sooo hard! Its like the old school part of him. I really would love to hear more harder techno from Moby soon. By the way, the song in the credits of Double Tap is very very similar to Dark. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "William Turner Spencer Iii" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 16 Feb 1998 19:52:25 -0500 I agree with the X-Files remix thing, but I think he should remix Lush 1, Halcyon+On+On, or Quality Seconds. Yes, you heard me, Quality Seconds, that song everyone thinks of as one of those "inbetween two other real songs" songs. dreamANALYZER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 17 Feb 1998 01:04:39 GMT Lush 1, Halcyon +ON +ON, Belfast, or Kein Trink Wasser are all great Orbital Songs. Moby did Spead Freak and I did not really like that song. I know this is a off topic, but can someone please tell me if it is Halcyon or Halycon cause I have 3 dif albums with is Halcyon and 1 with it Halycon. I don't know what Halycon is, and I know what Halcyon is, but Halycon sounds cooler. Now, has Moby ever remixed any other Orbital because I love them and I would like to see if Moby would be able to make it better. It would be amazingly hard. Later. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:17:04 -0500 >as for the issues.. there are many things out there to be active about. >everywhere u turn, there is injustice that's worth fighting against. some >ppl take it overboard (i.e. christian coalition and PETA), but they're >still fighting against it. what i like about MOBY is the fact that he's >done research.. like in his everything is wrong CD. i find that really >great that he knows what he is fighting for.. and is trying to educate >others. i agree. what i find most compelling about moby, is his ability to keep me on my toes. he keeps me interested because i don't really know what he's going to say next. and what he says (this is the important part) and what he does....he does with MODERATION. he is labelled as a hardcore vegan, but i don't think he is at all. i don't think there is too much hardness in moby at all in anythign he does. and that is a very honest humanistic quality that he expresses very well in all his music. everythign from the "end of everythign" to "animal rights"....even "thousand" is a soft song when you know moby. ok, love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:24:20 -0500 At 04:54 PM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >Yahoo for Ryu. would i love to be able to cum up with an exclamation that rhymes with Marjorana. he heee.... >Finally some passion for Moby can be shown and a little >philosophy thrown on the table. I just re-read the essay inside of Voodoo >Child/ End of Everything and the argument he uses to debunk all the >carnivores, essentially that why would anyone choose to create more >suffering in the world? I think Moby's music on this album follows very >tightly with this message in that this very mellow ambient album makes me >feel very at peace. i just have to say that it was that short little essay that made me finally decide to give up meat. simple and to the point. it was good finding out about moby when i did...because i had many of the same beliefs as him before i first heard his music. then when i got to know him, it was like meeting a long lost brother or something. but i've always felt similar to moby on just about everything except for some of his stances on pornography. while i like looking at nude women, i think that there is a line that must be observed. love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Revolution! Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:31:55 -0800 >this list sucks anymore. >i'm not afraid to say it. A wholehearted agreement on this one.... >what interests me in moby, and draws me into his music is his >personal beliefs and feelings. these things are tabboo on this list. Exactly. I feel bad; I mean this really is Damian's list but it's stagnated to the point of utter boredom. There's never anything that sparks my interest anymore. I don't like to bring it up again, but the philosophy debate was a good one-and one that should really be considered a vital part of why we all enjoy Moby as a thought provoking, intelligent musician. He doesn't just release music-he releases *soul-wrenching* music. I think we should have the freedom to discuss where they come from! >so does that mean that we are to prioritize everything we think and act about? Only when it serves a purpose. Moby wants people to open their minds, but the fact is for the most part he wants us to open them in his direction ;) >and if people's health and the environment are high on moby's list, why are >all his songs about his own problems with love relationships? I know this isn't the answer you're looking for-but (and I know you know this already) he doesn't want to come off like a preacher in his songwriting. I think there's a lot of people out there that write really powerful political messages into their songs. I'm not sure that Moby could pull that off without satirizing himself a little. Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's gone jungle Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:34:47 -0800 >That's a nice remix, but really weak "jungle". Though I'm sure I'll >enjoy any excursions Moby makes into drum & bass, he should probably >leave the serious jungle to the pros and trade remixes with them. He >could turn their 'musical wallpaper' into neat emotional songs, while >they take his material and mash it up! We can't forget Dark either; even if it was a tad repetative. I really hope he decides to experiment with something like that again... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 16 Feb 1998 19:49:49 -0500 >what i like about MOBY is the fact that he's >done research.. like in his everything is wrong CD. >Blessed Be, >Plovious IMHO...Moby didn't do enough research for Essay One..I quote: "It doesn't make sense to derive power from nuclear, coal, and petroleum when we have solar, hydro, and wind power." Now I agree that coal and petroleum are outdated sources of power..but the 3 options he gave aren't so "environmentally friendly(ef)" as they may seem: Solar: Probably the only one that can claim to be 100% "ef". As everyone knows all solar plants do is harness the sun for energy..Nothing wrong with that...Only problem is the plants need to be in areas that get a LOT of sun...So it'd be ineffective to place a plant in..Seattle, Washington for example. Hydro: Water is a great source of power..but not always ef. Anyone in the NorthWest knows what the hyrdo dams have done to our salmon runs. Look at what hyrdo dams have done to the great Colorado River and it's environment. A lot of area is going to be lost when the Three Rivers(I think that's the name) Dam goes into effect in China. Outside Magazine did a great story on the dam a few months ago..I suggest everybody read it. Wind: Once again..wind is a great source of power..but not always ef. The number one problem is you need a steady wind..So not every area would be suited for a wind farm. #2...Wind farms are VERY noisy.. a homeowner's association in Spokane, WA(I believe) fought to have one contstructed on a hill across from them..Think about it..these things run 24/7..hard to sleep when you have a "whoop whoop" sound going. #3..Dead birds have been found in and around windmills..These things do chop birds in half. I quote once again: "Basically we should stop doing those things that are destructive to the environment, other creatures, and ourselves..." When doing a paper/essay advocating something..I was taught that you play Devil's Advocate..and see the other side of something..so you can counter anything that might be said. Maybe Moby should have done that..he may have learned that 2 out of the 3 choices he gave might not be the best choice. BTW..I did do a paper in my Eng102 class about which is the best way to produce power(I gave pros/cons about each)..It was my opinion that you use whatever is best for the area(meaning in some areas..A nuclear power plant might be best). If anyone wishes to discuss this further..don't hesitate to email me privately :). BTW #2 I do realize that Moby is a busy guy..and since he did put a lot of facts in the EIW liner notes..It's hard to do research on every little thing. I'm sure he realizes that he may be wrong too :). Ryan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: (mobility) one final note Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:55:51 -0500 one final note and then i'll shut up for a while: i just want to say that my gripe with this list is not at all with any of the members in particular and is not with damian. damian has always been the best list moderator. and i wanted to say thanks to everyone who has responded to my post! love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pazifistin@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (mobility)Beliefs Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:51:51 EST > I WISH I could be as dedicated to veganism and getting rid of cars as Moby is. >But the fact of the matter is, my university cafeteria does not serve healthy >food, and I have to eat the meat. > And even more than that, I need my car to get around. I couldn't live my kind >of lifestyle without a car. And I don't know how Moby does it. I guessing he takes >a lot of busses (which I do), and bums rides off friends (which I also do). I'm Sorry, but that is the worst excuse I have ever heard. It is precisly that argument that I think Moby is tryng to cut through. I am vegan and do not own a car. It is never the most convient thing, but that doesn't and shouldn't matter. if it is something you truly believe in then DO IT!! Our society in the US is built upon many things for convience sake, but that has nothing to do with what is right morally. (Insert favorite political joke here.) Listen to the facts that Moby places in front of you. Many are very true. If it seems like something you want to support you will find a way around the obstacles. -kat " The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." -- John Ruskin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Ruh Subject: Re: Re: (mobility)Beliefs Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:12:13 -0500 (EST) > >But the fact of the matter is, my university cafeteria does not serve healthy > >food, and I have to eat the meat. Having lived in dorms for the last two-and-a-half years, I can say I really sympathize. I usually end up eating wilted salads or PB&J. Not that I'm complaining, because it's my own choice, but a little variety would be nice. However, just because you don't think you can be vegan in a dorm (it *is* possible, though) doesn't mean you should give up altogether. I'm sure you can at least go vegetarian. Simply cutting out meat still will leave you with many options, at least in my experience. And it's easier to go vegan once you have been vegetarian for a while. > > And even more than that, I need my car to get around. I couldn't live my > kind > >of lifestyle without a car. And I don't know how Moby does it. I guessing he > takes > >a lot of busses (which I do), and bums rides off friends (which I also do). Okay, I own a car. It's odd -- to get around effectively w/o a car, one would probably have to live in a large city with a good public transit system. Yet to get around in less citified areas, which would probably be quieter and far less polluted, one needs a car. Dammit, what we need are transporters like in Star Trek. That would solve everything! My opinion on this list -- I love the philosophical discussions much more than the posts solely on music. Moby's stance on many issues attracted me to him initially more than his actual music. Peace, Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) speed garage Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:28:47 -0600 (CST) At 10:46 AM 2/16/98 -0800, you wrote: >I mean, the closest to jungle >he ever went was like the first few seconds of Everythime you Touch >Me. That's not really even jungle. Heh. I suppose you've never heard Unloved Symphony. :) Also, you could count the EYTM NYC Jungle Mix... >Now we all know who Moby himself has remixed, and what we think he >should remix, but I'm wondering: >Who do we think should remix Moby? I agree with Aphex Twin. :) Richard D. James should make some interesting tracks out of Moby's work. Other than that, I suppose I'd like to see what an Uberzone mix of Moby would sound like. They've done some superb mixes for Keoki... >cheers >== >Adios Amigos, > ~~PAUL~~ *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:42:58 -0600 (CST) Taking the stance of a dedicated Moby fan... I joined this list for many reasons. First off and most importantly, I joined because I wanted to learn more about Moby's music. As an electronic musician myself, I want to know what makes his tracks tick, so to speak. Also, I joined to find out more about his releases and remixes, and to get an honest opinion on them. Talking about Moby's ideology should be an acceptable part of this list, but there should be a wide range of topics other than that. I've seen many lists deteriorate into, "what kind of underwear does he wear?" or, "is it true that so-and-so only goes out at night and watches pornos inside his/her house all day?" General stupidity like that. Here's hoping this direction that Ryu is herding these fellow members in doesn't deteriorate into this type of numbing, ludicrous babble. *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: (mobility) Quality Seconds Date: 16 Feb 1998 21:49:38 -0600 (CST) At 07:52 PM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >I agree with the X-Files remix thing, but I think he should remix Lush 1, >Halcyon+On+On, or Quality Seconds. Yes, you heard me, Quality Seconds, that >song everyone thinks of as one of those "inbetween two other real songs" >songs. Quality Seconds, had it been more intricate, would have been a damn fine song. Obviously it was concieved as a joke by most Orbital fans, but I saw it as a hint of P&P moving in a more industrial direction. It would have been interesting had they explored this route on In Sides a bit more. >dreamANALYZER *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Ruh Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:57:39 -0500 (EST) > like that. Here's hoping this direction that Ryu is herding these fellow > members in doesn't deteriorate into this type of numbing, ludicrous babble. "Herding"? I'm not quite sure I like the implications. That this list has either leaders or that we are capable of being herded. Personally, I must admit that I have not listened to my Moby collection in quite a while. I find the man's philosophy much more intreguing than his music at the present music. But then again, what I listen to usually fluctuates (sp?) depending on what's going on in my life. Peace, Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: Re: (mobility)Beliefs Date: 16 Feb 1998 20:15:36 -0800 Brian, Pazifistin, and all, see, I've been thinking that once I graduate from college I'll try to become a vegetarian. In the meantime, what takes the place of meat in a vegetarian diet? I'd really like to know, because I'd like to stop eating meat. Thanks for the responses, Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 16 Feb 1998 22:22:33 -0600 (CST) At 10:57 PM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >"Herding"? I'm not quite sure I like the implications. That this list has >either leaders or that we are capable of being herded. Well, from observation, it looks like a bit of both. Ryu is definately a leader on this list; everyone loves him, no one challenges his opinions, etc. This is speaking from the viewpoint of someone who's been on this list for about a month. Although he does make some intelligent posts, I don't think there should be total agreement on everything he says. I agree that the Puff Daddy discussion was quite hackneyed, but had it been brief and well-discussed rather than the constant stream of "Puffy sucks" messages, it might have been a good debate. >Personally, I must admit that I have not listened to my Moby collection in >quite a while. I find the man's philosophy much more intreguing than his music >at the present music. But then again, what I listen to usually fluctuates (sp?) >depending on what's going on in my life. I've been listening to Moby constantly since September. With every release of his I pick up I find a different facet of his personality. The seemingly endless types of electronic (and beyond) music types he attempts just shows his ambition is as strong as his dedication to his beliefs. As long as this ambition doesn't die, I will remain a loyal Moby fan. On another subject hinted at above, I hope to start an intellectual debate with this one. Recently, I heard Madonna's new single, "Frozen". Obviously, this was her attempt at taking a stab into the electronic music realm. The song was punctuated with various synth bits, various percussive sounds run through filters and delay, and a chorus consisting of a jungle-type break. The song itself wasn't that bad; IMHO, it was a better attempt at techno than Bush's "Mouth", which was a huge chart hit. The point I want to make is this; how do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for the 7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that, feel about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs? Is it proliferating the genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists are making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic flavoring to their music? How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit fare? Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious... Personally, I don't care if it's mainstream...just as long as they do it right. >Peace, >Brian *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Ruh Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 16 Feb 1998 23:48:12 -0500 (EST) > Recently, I heard Madonna's new single, "Frozen". Obviously, this was her > attempt at taking a stab into the electronic music realm. The song was > punctuated with various synth bits, various percussive sounds run through > filters and delay, and a chorus consisting of a jungle-type break. The song > itself wasn't that bad; IMHO, it was a better attempt at techno than Bush's > "Mouth", which was a huge chart hit. The point I want to make is this; how > do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for the > 7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that, feel > about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs? Is it proliferating the > genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists are > making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic > flavoring to their music? > How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit fare? > Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious... Well (and I'm probably a minority on this group with this), I have absolutely no allegiance to "electronic" (or whatever you wanna call it) music. The only artist I really listen to on this genre is Moby himself. Also a spattering of KMFDM, Pig, Skinny Puppy, and the like. But personally I go more towards punk and ska. At least recently that's what I've been listening to. But I see what you mean. In the last few years, we've seen the whole "Big Punk Thing" and the "Big Ska Thing" break. It's really disconcerting to see people you sort of know being played on MTV. Just strange... I agree with the statement (that I seem to have deleted) with the gist that "as long as they do it right." I mean, I hate to see bands such as No Doubt being hailed as ska bands. Get it right, here, people. People may get the wrong idea at first. "Yeah, I like 311. They're a good ska band." Aargh! But if "pop" electronica remains in the public eye, sooner or later people will pick up on the real stuff. I think it's a good thing. I'm not sure if I got off track or not. It's late and I still have a buttload (hee, that's a funny word) of homework. I think I posted more tonight than I ever have. peace, Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Norom Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 17 Feb 1998 01:10:15 -0500 >Well, from observation, it looks like a bit of both. Ryu is definately a >leader on this list; everyone loves him, no one challenges his opinions, >etc. This is speaking from the viewpoint of someone who's been on this list >for about a month. Although he does make some intelligent posts, I don't >think there should be total agreement on everything he says. there is nothing that Ryu likes more than a good challenge. heck, he wonders the countryside looking for a worthy opponent. there is no better challenge than a good argument, and Ryu welcums an argument from anyone. agreement is boring. with sincerity, Norom ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: (mobility) The evil list admin speaks... Date: 16 Feb 1998 23:39:47 -0700 Well, it's been an interesting day for the mailing list and myself (I'm licking my wounds as I type). I am surprised to see what people thought of myself and the job I do in operating this list. Who would have thought that little me cast so much fear (you know - kicking, banning, and the total censorship of anything to do with philosophy). So I write in the hope that I can re-clarify what I always thought my stance regarding philosophy and this mailing list to be. Actually, I'm not really going to write anything new... I'm going to re post what I have said all along... my position isn't changing, it hasn't changed, and I doubt it ever will. The following email was posted in November of 1997 when this mailing list last experienced a problem regarding the discussion of philosophy. In case it gets missed, I'll say it here: PHILOSOPHY IS WELCOME ON THIS LIST WHEN IT RELATES TO MOBY. As you can see in the post below - I wasn't militant, threatening, or condescending about the discussion. Sure, I am wary when it comes to philosophy because of the tendency for things to go awry. I had hoped that things would get restarted in the right direction... but I didn't think it would take three months. Anyway, the discussion that took place today was great. As far as I can tell, everyone kept it related to Moby (now I feel like a broken record). Okay, I now withdraw to my den of hell. (: > I thought I would finally speak up and say what I feel about the debate > over philosophy on this mailing list. I was kind of hoping that the > problem would solve itself but it doesn't look like that is going to > happen. I'm going to keep this short and sweet because I could go on > and on. Of course, we can discuss it further if needed. > > In general, I would say I prefer to have it off the list. While I enjoy > seeing what people have to say about Moby's views, I don't want to see > an ongoing debate about personal beliefs that don't have anything to do > with Moby. I know this is a fine line but it's there nevertheless. > > Most of the list members are here because of Moby's music. Since that > is the case, it should be the music that we discuss most. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: (mobility) Moby's Musical Direction Date: 17 Feb 1998 01:23:08 +0000 I was sitting around today glancing over at my Moby c.d. collection that consists of 32 discs. But that's not the point. I was wandering what tracks Moby has released in the last 7 or so years that have truly moved me. At first I was very skeptical about a rock album from Moby. But now that all the dust has cleared and I'm now looking at all these c.d.'s, I'd honestly have to say that "Say It's All Mine" from Animal Rights has moved me more than any song Moby's done. With Moby being my favorite artist, does this mean that it's my favorite song of all time by any group or artist? Probably not. But I know for a fact that I have rocked so hard to that song while I was driving my little Honda CRX more than any Moby song. The track is just emotionally incredible. The point I'm trying to make is will this emotion continue on the new album? Can you imagine an electronic album from Moby with powerful lyrics like on Animal Rights? OK that's all Other powerful tracks from Moby IMO -Unloved Symphony -Hymn (alt.quiet.version) -Go (subliminal) -Face It -Animal Sight -Desperate Good Night and thank you RT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:03:55 -0600 >Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby >about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow >that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later. I had an interview with Moby way back in 1993 in Grand Rapids, MI (where I went to college...Calvin), and we had a neat chat about our Christian beliefs. I am a Christian myself, and like Moby, not much of a "bible basher" like the way Christians are portrayed in the media. I'm just like Moby...searching for truth. But back to the main subject, we discussed this Christian view of vegetarianism and I recall him mentioning something around the lines of this...if God created Man to watch over his creation (the Earth and all its creatures) and have dominion over them, then why should we kill so many living and breathing animals, which in a way, share alot of similar things like us? God has dominion over us and he doesn't pick us off one by one like cherries from a tree. He wasn't vigilant on this subject, but this was his opinion. And in a way I respect that opinion. Personally, I have reduced my "carnivorous lifestyle" greatly and have the occasional "chicken option." But that stuff is so full of chemicals these days, its impossible to eat that as well. Anyone going to the God Lives Underwater show at The Metro tonite (tuesday)...short notice, but I'll be there. JadenX...I owe you a phone call...sorry. Scott Steg ...I Love Carrots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Daniels" Subject: Re: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e) Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:06:08 -0600 I've noticed that, going further past NIN, there are a lot of artists that remix songs so much that, by the time they're done, the songs sound nothing like the original in the sense that so much has been added and taken away. A good example of this is Aphex Twin. When he remixes songs, they turn out to sound completely different than anything like it did before. (Another example:NIN's 'Fixed' e.p.)D. --------- I suppose. Trent Reznor is another person famous for ripping himself off like that, and I know many people who do similar mixes and give them alternate names, out of those names come entirely different remixes. In essence, it usually works out. >dj tripp >p.s. i love the fact that next is the e turns into N.I.T.E. Hehehe, it's quite novel... *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Daniels" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:12:59 -0600 I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with Bon Jovi and Belinda Carlisle? D. ---------- Lush 1, Halcyon +ON +ON, Belfast, or Kein Trink Wasser are all great Orbital Songs. Moby did Spead Freak and I did not really like that song. I know this is a off topic, but can someone please tell me if it is Halcyon or Halycon cause I have 3 dif albums with is Halcyon and 1 with it Halycon. I don't know what Halycon is, and I know what Halcyon is, but Halycon sounds cooler. Now, has Moby ever remixed any other Orbital because I love them and I would like to see if Moby would be able to make it better. It would be amazingly hard. Later. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Daniels" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's gone jungle Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:16:47 -0600 How about "Sway"? All I can picture when I hear that song is a storm moving over an ocean with a buoy swaying in the wind. I LOVE that song (and about 99.987% of the rest of his songs) It's not jungle, but it's good anyway. D. ---------- >That's a nice remix, but really weak "jungle". Though I'm sure I'll >enjoy any excursions Moby makes into drum & bass, he should probably >leave the serious jungle to the pros and trade remixes with them. He >could turn their 'musical wallpaper' into neat emotional songs, while >they take his material and mash it up! We can't forget Dark either; even if it was a tad repetative. I really hope he decides to experiment with something like that again... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis Daniels" Subject: Re: (mobility) speed garage Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:21:40 -0600 Uberzone also did an excellent remix of The Crystal Method's "Busy Child" on the single. Other than that, though, I have no idea who Uberzone is.??.D. ---------- I agree with Aphex Twin. :) Richard D. James should make some interesting tracks out of Moby's work. Other than that, I suppose I'd like to see what an Uberzone mix of Moby would sound like. They've done some superb mixes for Keoki... >cheers >== >Adios Amigos, > ~~PAUL~~ *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) moby's intentions Date: 17 Feb 1998 07:39:28 -0700 >Now that I have read 20 minutes worth of 4 posts, I feel the need to >respond. I >have not been here for more than a month, but I have noticed that you are all >right. However, I don't know if every post, or even the majority, should be >about personal moby. For myself, I like hearing about Moby's songs, because >everyone here has shown me how little I actually know. I had 16 Moby CDs and >thought I was a hot shot. I guess I was wrong. I would like to know about >Moby, >but not to the point that I know more about him than myself. In my mind, It >would be kind of violating him to examine every move he makes. If you think we >should examine, then lets examine him through his songs. Who cares about where >he lives, or what color clothes he wears unless he wrote a song about him. I >mean, sure I don't like the "I think he should remix Heathcliff" or something >like that, but how deep do we have to get. If you are going to go that far, at >least put a little (W) to warn me in your title so I can prepare myself to >read >the post. Well....To qoute the great Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion, I >could be wrong." >Well, anyway, I just wanted to know, how many of you actually believe moby >about the animals and the meat and the cars so much that you actually follow >that lifestyle, i.e. a automobileless vegan? Just wanted to know. Later. right on. first and foremost, and i am playing devil's advocate, pardon the pun, but if someone has to go to the extremes as printing essays in cd sleeves that end up selling hundred's of thousands of cds, then he is out to make more then just a mere point. i agree for the most part with moby's writings and respect his thoughts and trying to put myself in his shoes, i don't think he would want someone to follow his thoughts to the point that the individual reading it would alter their life. this would make it the cult of moby. he has way to many things to worry about than be responsible for those who follow his 'teachings'. these things like becoming environmentally, socially, politically aware comes from within. the true value of individual philosophy is that it isn't directly influenced from outside forces. these are personal issues. being a vegetarian for 7 years, i made a decision to alter my diet from animal flesh and had to start taking supliments and eating things like tofu and beans etc. this was a decision i made for myself, by myself. the beauty of coming to a personal realization is something, i think anyway, is what moby is trying to express. i think knowledge in knowing the true colors of this world, is power, and power from within is where you will find the strenght to change the world for yourself. or am i naive? one last thing, you don't have to be angry at the world to know that there are things wrong with it. Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:40:37 -0800 >at all these c.d.'s, I'd honestly have to say that "Say It's All Mine" "Did you ever slip inside my ozone?" Has been a favorite line of mine for some time now ;) Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them? I mean *really* move you, like virtually to tears. I know personally I can't listen to When It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living without welling up a bit... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:43:11 -0800 > I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with Bon >Jovi and Belinda Carlisle? From what I understand when they play live, they do an extended mix of Halcyon that ends with Bon Jovi & Belinda Carlisle. I'm totally serious; it's on one of the UK imports of Insides I believe (the 2cd without the 28min Box & without the Saint I believe.).... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #90 Date: 17 Feb 1998 07:49:53 -0700 > Uberzone also did an excellent remix of The Crystal Method's "Busy >Child" on the single. Other than that, though, I have no idea who Uberzone >is.??.D. they also did sarah mclachlan's 'sweet surrender', how's that for the 'madonna-doing-electronic' debate? Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:13 -0700 At 04:30 PM 2/16/98 EST, you wrote: ABSOLUTE TOP_MAIL! TOP TOP TOP! >great gospel session guys, i think we shouldnt stray too far off coarse >though. Its really is great to get to know a little something about everyone >you are talking to; but, we wont be talking that much longer after they kick >us off the list for forgetting moby. We should all add our 2 cents worth >while talking about moby. Plovious and ryu, i respect you both. You know >what we should do, we should have our own church of Moby. Then everyone, >including myself, can bitch about politics, religion, philosophy, while still >on the subject of moby!!!! Its just a though, but what the hell, most of us >have nothing else to do. Jackin it gets old, and talking about moby lyrics >gets even older. Someone interview him damnit, figure this stuff out. > > ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part two Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:18 -0700 At 04:50 PM 2/16/98 -0600, you wrote: > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ryu >>to be a hypocrite.... He says his personal spiritual epiphany came >from reading Matthew 5-7, Christ's "Sermon On the Mount." Not a bad place to >start if you want to find a practical, working philosophy for Christianity. > >BSC hey, Matthew being the sweetest guy in the wholy Bible, what is your NEW signature? Brad, i love you ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:20 -0700 At 01:43 PM 2/16/98 -0700, you wrote: >i have to agree w/ Ryu here. . it's like turning on a light switch in a >cluttered room... no more bumping into hard objects and bruising my knees. >:P >Blessed Be, >Plovious this is the kind of Mobility i like ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) speed moby voodoo garage ambient child Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:42:24 -0700 uhuhh!... urgh... before you guys get messed up in a discussion about jungle speed garage ambient sort this out out first: (i knew i'd need this for further reference, thanks to our Swedish contributor JJ!) [frankz quoting the LIST!] >Return-Path: >X-Sender: agape@gargamel.com (Unverified) >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 01:10:56 -0400 >To: but not _the_ frankz >From: "Johan Jaatinen" >Subject: Re: list electronica labelling > >Here you go... > >Abstract Techno >Acid >Acid Ambient >Acid House >Acid Jazz >Acid Trance >Ambient >Ambient-EnvironMental >Ambient Dub >Ambient Jungle >Ambient Techno >Ambient Trance >Amyl House >Bass >Bass & Drum >Beats >Big Beat >Bouncy Techno >Breakbeat >Breakcore >Breaks >Break-trance >Brit Hop >Chemical Beats >Chicago (Chicago House) >Chill Out >Coffee-Table Jungle >Dancehall >Dark Ambient >Darkcore >Darkside >Darkside Hardstep >Darkstep >Darkwave >Death Ambient >Deep >Deep House >Deep Space >Detroit (Detroit Techno) >Digi-funk >Digital Hardcore >Dolphin >Drill & Bass >Drum & Bass >Dub >EBM >Electro (Elektro) >Electronica >Elektro-Jazz >Elektronik Fusion Music (EFM) >Ethereal >Ethno-trance >Ethno-techno >Euro (Eurotechno, eurodisco) >Experimental >Funglen >Fuzak >Gabber (Gabba) >Garage >Goa (Goa Trance) >Gothic >Grindcore >Handbag >Happy Gabba >Happy Hardcore (Happy Hard) >Hardbag >Hardcore >Hardhouse >Hard Step (Hardstepper) >Hardtrance >Hi-NRG >Hip-Hop >Hip-Hop Stylee >House >Hypermodern Digi-Jazz >Illbient >Industrial >Intelligent Dance Music (IDM) >Intelligent Drum & Bass >Intelligent Jungle >Isolationism >Jazzy >Jazzstep >Jump-up >Jungle >Late Romantic >Miami Bass >Minimal >Neo-Gothic >New Age >New Jazz Beats >Noise (Noize) >Oldschool >Phuture Phunk >Post-Industrial >Post-Punk >Post-Rock >Post-Techno >Prog-Jungle >Psychedelic >Ragga >Rare Grooves >Rave >Softhouse >Slambient >Smokin Beats >Space >Space Age Pop >Speedcore >Synth Pop >Tech-House >Techno >Techstep >Trance >Tribal >Trip & Bass >Trip Hop > >____________________________________________________________________ >Johan Jaatinen, Umea, Sweden c97jjn@cs.umu.se / agape@gargamel.com by the way, i love dj's talk about philosophy and philosophers talk about music.... or was it the other way around? frankz ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ciccone, Nancy J." Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:11:00 -0500 Recently, I heard Madonna's new single, "Frozen". Obviously, this was her attempt at taking a stab into the electronic music realm. The song was punctuated with various synth bits, various percussive sounds run through filters and delay, and a chorus consisting of a jungle-type break. The song itself wasn't that bad; IMHO, it was a better attempt at techno than Bush's "Mouth", which was a huge chart hit. The point I want to make is this; how do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for the 7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that, feel about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs? Is it proliferating the genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists are making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic flavoring to their music? How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit fare? Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious... Personally, I don't care if it's mainstream...just as long as they do it right. >Peace, >Brian I just want to say that I agree. I could care less what is "mainstream" and what isn't. If something sounds good and makes me want to move - that's all I care about. I see nothing wrong with a pop artist trying to expand on their musical knowledge and talents. And I would like to hear more "underground" on the radio. But, on the other hand, I don't really like to go to clubs that are packed with people that only know "mainstream". I feel that they really don't appreciate the music - they might just be into what's "cool" at the time. I think they are the ones who give it a bad name. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 17 Feb 1998 11:52:40 EST >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them? I mean >*really* >move you, like virtually to tears. I know personally I can't listen >to When >It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living >without welling up a bit... when it's cold i'd like to die and into the blue do it to me everytime. i take them extremely personally, sometimes to my advantage (alone in my room) , other times not (in the car) boo hoo, sarah _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 17 Feb 1998 11:52:40 EST >>From what I understand when they play live, they do an extended mix >of >Halcyon that ends with Bon Jovi & Belinda Carlisle. I'm totally >serious; >it's on one of the UK imports of Insides I believe (the 2cd without >the >28min Box & without the Saint I believe.).... yes.. i saw them last summer.. they do indeed play this, and it is DAMN funny !! i wasn't familiar w/ the somg at the time and neither were most of the people around me.. jsut before they started on the "shot through the heart, and you're to blame.." thing, they both started laughing.. then when they did it, the crowd went insane. . .it was excellent sarah _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) beliefs, remixes, Orbital, etc. Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:05:06 -0800 (PST) As for all this philosophy talk, alls I gots ta say is I'm Jewish, not Vegan, and I walk or ride a bike. My copy of Insides which I bought in 96 doesnt have the live Halcyon, but I saw the vid of it on AMP (where they dubbed it "Live Experience"). Yes, what is up with Bon Jovi and Belinda Carlisle? Maybe they've been watching 8-track flashback or something...I don't have any other Orbital cds though. I think Halcyon is a very powerful song. I don't have Animal Rights, so I don't know about those songs. Yeah, Aphex remixing, he must really reconstruct the track. I've never heard his remixes, but I've heard that they are "so utterly obliterate of the originals that it counts as all new Aphex.". (Spin guide to Alternative Music 1995)The thing about remixing is some remixers just basically add a disco beat to the song, some add a whole new element to the song, and some just make a new song and pass it off as a remix. I mean, when Van Helden does a remix, he just makes a disco version of the song(which most of the time is pretty bad, IMO). But like on the Bjork remix cd, most of the songs add whole new elements to the originals Like the classical version of Hyperballad (her best song, IMO, and one of her most emotional...track 2 on her cds are usually the most emotional ones on the disc) and the rap version of I Miss You. The remixes are the best when they do this. But some just make a whole new song, like the Masseymix of Army Of Me, which takes away the vocals. Or the Goldie mix of Bush's Swallowed. Or the Chembros mix of Prodigy's Voodoo People. I mean, all these mixes, the song is good, but they just ruin the song. (well, except the bush remix, i like that one more than the original) This can be good and bad. If AFX did a remix of Moby, it would be cool if he added an element to the song. But I guess it would just sound like new AFX. Which is good, because AFX ROCKS, but it wouldn't really be Moby, which is the point. Bla Bla Bla yackety schmackety...g'bye Mobilitians == Adios Amigos, ~~PAUL~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Adair" Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 17 Feb 1998 17:07:05 -0000 >> I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with Bon >>Jovi and Belinda Carlisle? > > >From what I understand when they play live, they do an extended mix of >Halcyon that ends with Bon Jovi & Belinda Carlisle. I'm totally serious; >it's on one of the UK imports of Insides I believe (the 2cd without the >28min Box & without the Saint I believe.).... Yeah, I taped this off the radio a while ago; towards they end, they mix in Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name" and Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a Place on Earth". It really has to be heard to be believed :) Stuart _____________________ \_ .:stuart adair:. /___ :dubstar::moby::scrawn&lard::eddieizzard:| "i'm / / stu042@bigfoot.com \_________ :bigbeat:::interactivefiction:| covered / / stuart.adair@stud.umist.ac.uk _) :terrypratchett::::drum&bass:| in \ \/\ c.floor homepage back up! (_ /\ :zxspectrum::::fatboyslim:| beees!" \__/ http://cfloor.home.ml.org [__)/ \_ :quake:kenickie:[frenzi]| -(e.i) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:41:17 -0500 >The point I want to make is this; how >do members of this list, some of you being fans of electronic music for the >7-year duration of Moby's career so far and some even longer than that, feel >about pop stars trying to make techno-ish songs? If music groups want to "dabble" in other genre's..that's fine with me..It might turn out great in some cases(Did Moby not turn "techno"? If I have my history correct..he was pure punk in his early early days). >Is it proliferating the >genre, smattering it with a bad name, or do you feel that these artists are >making a genuine attempt at writing better songs by adding electronic >flavoring to their music? I think it depends on the group and why they're doing it. I'll have less respect for a group who's doing just because it's the "hip" thing at the moment. It doesn't surprise me about Madonna's direction..It seems like it's the only natural progression. >How do you feel about this music becoming chart-topping mainstream hit fare? >Do you want it to stay underground? I'm curious... This will always be debated..it'd be nice if Moby would become more mainstream..Then maybe I'd be able to see him live..maybe Mute would start releasing stuff domestically and I could stop paying import prices..But it's nice when it's underground..it's yours..and only a select few ppl know about it..Now I don't have a elitest(sp?) attitude..but for example..I was at the Sno-Core Tour Sunday night..in between bands they were playing South Park episodes..A few of us knew the show really well(The two local cable companies don't carry Comedy Central...I only get it because I subscribe to one of the minidishes)..So we were saying the lines along w/ the show..A lot of ppl looked at us strange..It was a great feeling :). I don't see all of "electronic" music becoming mainstream in the U.S. A majority of ppl in the U.S. need their bands on stage..singing..dancing..etc..not behind machines(IMHO..this is why bands like The Prodigy took off). I think the music industry saw that electronica(as they call it..horf) wasn't the next "grunge"..so they're gonna move on. >Personally, I don't care if it's mainstream...just as long as they do it right. I'm gonna try to stop this debate right here..Let's not start debating what's the right way to do electronic music..We all know what we like/don't like..That's all that's needed :) Ryan np: Brainiac: "Hissing Prigs In Static Couture" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Who said tyranny can't be fun?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 17 Feb 1998 18:51:31 GMT Ok, about the Orbital live Halcyon. ( I am sorry this is off topic ) They do mix in those two songs, and personally ,I think that it is one of the coolest things I have ever heard from my stereo. Taking their song - Halcyon (which is an awesome song as it is) and adding two random 80s songs that flow so perfectly. I have never heard of such a thing, but it is amazing. I would love to see some more music like that, even by Moby, because I am sure that I have heard too many Moby songs with the same beat and (fill in music term) before. And by the way, someone said about The prodigy taking off because they aren't behind machines. I don't disagree with that, but it was "Prodigy" that took off. Liam left behind "The Prodigy" with Jilted Generation. I am so pissed of with that, and I just felt had to say something. Later. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) orbital Date: 17 Feb 1998 13:03:29 -0600 (CST) quickly... i haven't heard halcyon live. i got the album long ago when it came with "the box." would anyone be so kind as to send me a tape of it? halcyon is my fav orbital tune. ok, done. oh, and reply personally only please. -xaq- "People have power not only depending on how much they know, but also what they are prepared to find out!" alec empire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) list list list Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:04:33 EST Here's a couple more, << >Abstract Techno >Acid >Acid Ambient >Acid House >Acid Jazz >Acid Trance >Ambient >Ambient-EnvironMental >Ambient Dub >Ambient Jungle >Ambient Techno >Ambient Trance >Amyl House >Bass >Bass & Drum >Beats >Big Beat >Bouncy Techno >Breakbeat >Breakcore >Breaks >Break-trance >Brit Hop >Chemical Beats >Chicago (Chicago House) >Chill Out >Coffee-Table Jungle >Dancehall >Dark Ambient >Darkcore >Darkside >Darkside Hardstep >Darkstep >Darkwave >Death Ambient >Deep >Deep House >Deep Space >Detroit (Detroit Techno) >Digi-funk >Digital Hardcore >Dolphin >Drill & Bass >Drum & Bass >Dub >EBM >Electro (Elektro) >Electronica >Elektro-Jazz >Elektronik Fusion Music (EFM) >Ethereal >Ethno-trance >Ethno-techno >Euro (Eurotechno, eurodisco) >Experimental >Funglen >Fuzak >Gabber (Gabba) >Garage >Goa (Goa Trance) >Gothic >Grindcore >Handbag >Happy Gabba >Happy Hardcore (Happy Hard) >Hardbag >Hardcore >Hardhouse >Hard Step (Hardstepper) >Hardtrance >Hi-NRG >Hip-Hop >Hip-Hop Stylee >House >Hypermodern Digi-Jazz >Illbient >Industrial >Intelligent Dance Music (IDM) >Intelligent Drum & Bass >Intelligent Jungle >Isolationism >Jazzy >Jazzstep >Jump-up >Jungle >Late Romantic >Miami Bass >Minimal >Neo-Gothic >New Age >New Jazz Beats >Noise (Noize) >Oldschool >Phuture Phunk >Post-Industrial >Post-Punk >Post-Rock >Post-Techno >Prog-Jungle Progressive House <-----You Forgot These Two Favorite Genres Of Mine Progressive Trance <------------ >Psychedelic >Ragga >Rare Grooves >Rave >Softhouse >Slambient >Smokin Beats >Space >Space Age Pop >Speedcore >Synth Pop >Tech-House >Techno >Techstep >Trance >Tribal >Trip & Bass >Trip Hop >> dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Madonna Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:07:19 EST Of the list track, Has anyone heard the new Madonna track, i think its called "frozen". I heard it this morning and it sounds alot like Olive. I already want to remix it. Turn it into some good prog. house or trancey breakbeat tracks. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Moved To Tears Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:17:07 EST One night i was with my ex girlfriend who was moving the next day. I was listening to GMOTFOTW and i just sorta stopped everything to remember that moment. Here i was losing my girlfriend of over a year to a few hundred miles and this song was still only out for a few days at the time. I think of her everytime I hear it. Its one of the most moving peices of music i know. Hymn (european mix) is also a great dance piece that i've never danced to, and never will. When Its Cold I'd LIke To Die is a no brainer... Whoever it was that posted that they really liked Say Its All Mine alot, i've done a remix caled the "Ozone Mix" I've been talking with a certain member of this list and will be making a couple of my mixes available to everyone. DJ TRIPP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy27@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Move me Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:30:11 EST In a message dated 2/17/98 9:40:58 AM, you wrote: <> I gotta say, as for the tears part, First Cool Hive off of "everything is wrong" get me everytime....I always get chills everytime the vocals come in....(I also Love the first two tracks on The End of Everything...I would tell you the names of them, but a DJ here in Chicago is borrowing it.....BAH!) Two songs that set me in the biggest trance and I could listen to forever are Ah-Ah and I feel it (synthe mix)....pop those in and Fil is ready to go...... Filthy Fil : ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: Re: (mobility) Moved To Tears Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:45:48 +0000 EvilNinja2@aol.com wrote: > > One night i was with my ex girlfriend who was moving the next day. I was > listening to GMOTFOTW and i just sorta stopped everything to remember that > moment. Here i was losing my girlfriend of over a year to a few hundred miles > and this song was still only out for a few days at the time. I think of her > everytime I hear it. Its one of the most moving peices of music i know. Hymn > (european mix) is also a great dance piece that i've never danced to, and > never will. When Its Cold I'd LIke To Die is a no brainer... > > Whoever it was that posted that they really liked Say Its All Mine alot, i've > done a remix caled the "Ozone Mix" I've been talking with a certain member of > this list and will be making a couple of my mixes available to everyone. > > DJ TRIPP Oh Yes!!! A "Say It's All Mine" Remix that sounds great... I'd love to have that Rt phathead@flash.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:57:37 -0600 (CST) At 01:10 AM 2/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >there is nothing that Ryu likes more than a good challenge. >heck, he wonders the countryside looking for a worthy opponent. >there is no better challenge than a good argument, and Ryu >welcums an argument from anyone. >agreement is boring. Hehe. Well, I'm sorry if I appeared to be a Sagat for a minute there. ;P >with sincerity, >Norom >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional > electronic music. To hear some, get cds, > and see stuff, go to my homepage at: >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:01:35 -0600 (CST) At 09:03 AM 2/17/98 -0600, you wrote: >Anyone going to the God Lives Underwater show at The Metro tonite >(tuesday)...short notice, but I'll be there. JadenX...I owe you a phone >call...sorry. ARGH!!! Why didn't you mention they were touring earlier? I love GLU!!! To miss this opportunity is a deep pain for me, but alas, being 16 years old, without a car, I can't go on such short notice. :( >Scott Steg >...I Love Carrots *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) UHF to N.I.T.E.(next is the e) Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:05:52 -0600 (CST) At 09:06 AM 2/17/98 -0600, you wrote: > I've noticed that, going further past NIN, there are a lot of artists >that remix songs so much that, by the time they're done, the songs sound >nothing like the original in the sense that so much has been added and >taken away. A good example of this is Aphex Twin. When he remixes songs, >they turn out to sound completely different than anything like it did >before. (Another example:NIN's 'Fixed' e.p.)D. Aphex Twin doesn't do remixes; he has so many tracks recorded on his computer that he just loads one up that has a few similarities and calls it a remix. :) Seriously, that's his method. He's admitted to doing a Lemonheads "remix" where the postman showed up at his door and asked for the tape, he told them to hold on for 5 minutes, fished out some archaic tape of his works, and gave it to the guy. :) Evan Dando wasn't exactly pleased. :P *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: (mobility) concert question Date: 17 Feb 1998 14:17:38 PST sorry that this is off the subject of moby but i am going to a CRYSTAL METHOD and BT(david holmes) concert this friday the 20 in dc and was wondering if it would have any moshing to crowd surfing. or would it be more like a rave dance type thing. this is the first, more or less,techno concert and want an overview of the bands performances. now don't get me wrong i have heard their music but wanted to know how the crowd reacts to a electronica concert involving CRYSTAL METHOD and BT. To make this somewhat involve moby(the man) earlier i read a post that wanted to know who could remix some of moby's stuff and i came up with two good ones MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO TRENT REZNOR(a mortal god) yes believe it or not i feel that trent and moby would make an interesting duo. being that trent is becoming more and more involved with the electronica sound(which i love from trent)! ********************************************************************** Evil Ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i do not want this don't you tell me how i feel you don't know just how i feel ---------------nine inch nails---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:17:43 -0600 (CST) At 10:40 AM 2/17/98 -0800, you wrote: >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them? I mean *really* >move you, like virtually to tears. I know personally I can't listen to When >It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living >without welling up a bit... Yup. God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters always does it for me. Unloved Symphony always does it for me; whenever I listen to it, I always get a visualization of a person, running in what appears to be a mix of hatred and desperation, through a snowy forest or countryside. The person climbs up a harrowingly dangerous and steep rock surface. When they reach the top, there's a beautiful shot of the distance and a rapidly running river below. As the song climaxes and goes through the major change halfway through, the person suddenly jumps off the surface, filled with tears of happiness at the release of the suffering that is life. The daydream ends with a shot of some birds on the horizon, flying behind a gray sky starting to give way to a streak of beautiful red shades... Sorry if I was overdramatic, but if anyone here directs films/short clips, possibly an idea? :P Send me the results if so. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: >http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: (mobility) More tracks that move me... Date: 17 Feb 1998 16:38:12 -0600 (CST) Heh...almost forgot... The first time I heard Anthem (Cinematic Mix) I started crying my eyes out for no apparent reason. I've come to realize that at the time it seemed a reflection of my daily futile struggle to make it in this society. I've never been able to listen to it without crying. I'm also pretty moved by Move (Electro Mix). Thousand makes me want to kill people; similar to listening to Atari Teenage Riot or any other good hardcore/gabber. :) The tracks that make me want to dance the most are probably: 1. Voodoo Child (Poor In NY Mix) 2. Move (You Make Me Feel So Good) 3. All that I Need Is To Be Loved (MV) 4. Bring Back My Happiness 5. Into The Blue (Uplifting 4-Beat Mix) <-- OK, Moby didn't remix it. Too bad ;P 6. Next Is The E (Club Mix) 7. Feeling So Real (Ecstatic Mix) 8. Horses 9. Ah-Ah 10. Have You Seen My Baby *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 17 Feb 1998 14:49:00 -0800 Furball wrote: > At 10:40 AM 2/17/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them? I mean *really* > >move you, like virtually to tears. I know personally I can't listen to When > >It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living > >without welling up a bit... Oh, God yes. "Into the Blue" rips my heart out everytime I hear it, "Shining" fills my chest with such an incredible feeling... "Everytime You Touch Me" (Beatmasters' 7" mix) is the sort of song that makes me love life, I LOVE "Reject" off "End of Everything"... I could go on forever. "Ah-ah", "Go" (I Like to Score mix), "Alone", "Say It's All Mine", "Old", whoever it was that described Moby's music as "soul wrenching" could not have said it better. Oh, and thank you everyone who helped me figure out a good vegetarian diet. I've already started. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VaeMc@aol.com Subject: (mobility) hi from a fellow moBy fan... Date: 17 Feb 1998 18:12:40 EST Hello xaq... I usually read your mobility e-mail, because I find your quotes quite cute. I assume that you go to the U of Minnesota, but I could be wrong. I have a good friend who is a freshman there, but I am (unfortunately) still a senior here in St.Paul. Well, if, in fact you are from MN, I was curious if you saw MObY and Juno Reactor down @ 1st Ave.? I did, and I thought it was an excellent show that he put on...I really enjoyed it. Hmmm, if you have no idea what I am talking about, disregard this.... otherwise, e-mail me back, if you want. Hope to talk to you soon! ~cheers~ Jessica ( a possible fellow Minnesotan) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ultraviolet" Subject: (mobility) Madonna electronica Date: 17 Feb 1998 15:55:23 -0600 I don't think Madonna is "trying" to get into the electronica thing at all. Sure, the song has the hallmark "electronica" elements in it, more so than her previous songs, but the fact is that Madonna has always been using keyboards and dancey bits. Look at "Borderline" or "Lucky Star" for example. I easily consider those as contenders in the new-wave synth-pop battles of the 80's. I'm not saying that Madonna is in the same league as Depeche Mode, Erasure, or other synth-pop groups of that stature, just that Madonna is no stranger to electronics in music. I do think that Bush, on the other hand, jumped on the electronica train BIG TIME with their "Deconstructed". And this is because their previous efforts had hardly a smidgen of electronics (synths) in them (I can't recall any use of synths. Correct me if you think of something.) But about Madonna's song again, even though it has electronica sounds in it, it still sounds fresh, new. And that is what I like about it. RRR ps. I've just put up what I call "a simple symposium" on Marilyn Manson and my reaction to society's misconceptions theirof. You can read this at the belowmentioned site. And no, I don't get any "hitpoints" for you going there, I don't even have a counter, so this is not a publicity stunt. Purely for your information. I have remnants from Manson's appearance on Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect" that you may also find amusing. (The counter on the page is fake, for amusement only.) RRR ps. Sorry for the lack of Moby content, but taking into account what's being talked about on the list right now, I think this message is suitable and excusable. RRR || R| Erasure: Delobbo Remix .MP3's: http://members.xoom.com/delobbo || P| 242.cure.depeche_MODE.erasure.megadeth.moby.|\|||/|.nitzer_ebb.U2. || D| alice_in_chains.marilyn_manson.ministry.new_order.pet_shop_boys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TYCO Wench Subject: Re: (mobility) Moved To Tears Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:36:03 -0500 (EST) I must say that feeling so real moves me like no other, especially the "take me away" break down in the middle--I love putting that song on full blast, laying on my bed with my eyes closed, and just imagining the look I saw on Moby's face when he "sang" that part here in New Haven. So amazing... I also am a big fan of track number 2 and 5 (slow suicide?) on the end of everything, when its cold I'd like to die, first cool hive, and into the blue. --marjorana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Moved To Tears Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:53:12 EST yeah..definitely.....i mean...the amount of power that song has is incredible....i was at the show in NYC right in the front...i noticed the way he moved and it was like no other song played at that show....it really brought a tear of happines to my eye.... and i just kept on dancing....love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: (mobility) Say It's All Mine (Ozone Mix) Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:09:57 +0000 I believe it was DJ Tripp that said he has produced a remix of "Say It's All Mine". I was wandering how you were going to make this available for everyone to hear. I have done remixes of the tracks "80" and "Bad Days" from the ambient cd. They're really cool. RT phathead@flash.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Little Drummer Boy Date: 17 Feb 1998 20:08:14 -0500 (EST) I think the Moby songs that most move me are the two already mentioned numerous times (GMOTFOTW and When It's Cold...) but, even more so, Oil 1. The trak has a wonderful, relaxing quality to it, and a great trancy feel, but it still has a solid driving force and a consistent motion to it. I think this combination of Trancy feel and solid propulsive force is one of the most difficult things to achieve in music. Yet another example of the great skill and talent of our friend Moby. I have also been very impressed by the versions of Anthem on EIW, both the standard US release and the 2-cd remix album. **************************************************************** Your parents always told you: | What they meant was: | Early to bed, | Early to rise, Early to rise, | Early to bed, Makes a man healthy, | Makes a man healthy, Wealthy, and wise. | But socially dead. REMEMBER THESE WORDS **************************************************************** "We must be careful to never try so hard for something that we forget what it is that we are trying for." Little Drummer Boy rfairbai@mbhs.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) the electronica wave Date: 17 Feb 1998 18:54:59 -0700 well.. i do hate to see that music must have a "trend", but i guess it doesn't really bother me. i think ppl should listen to music because they like it, not because it's in. i think that "trends" on the other hand, open ppl up to other forms of music. hopefully, that love will stay w/ them. it is upsetting to hear ppl talk about these bands that are on the current "trend", though, because you know that they don't really like it, they just pretend to. i don't want to judge them, though, because this is them trying to find themselves... and if they need to experiment w/ music-so be it. that what i feel anyway. Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ "we are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 17 Feb 1998 19:08:29 -0700 Morning Dove on move really gets me going... i like the drumming and the beat.. also Into the Blue really does me in... it reaches into my soul and makes me feel all these feelings that i never knew i had. then, of course, Say It's All Mine is all time fav. it has emotion in it, the way MOBY sings it just really... i dunno.. drawns me in. those are just a few. i have lots, but i don't know the titles yet because i just recently got the CD's.. so this will have to do. Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ ---------- > From: Furball > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 3:17 PM > > At 10:40 AM 2/17/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them? I mean *really* > >move you, like virtually to tears. I know personally I can't listen to When > >It's Cold I'd Like To Die, Love Song For My Mom, or especially Living > >without welling up a bit... > > Yup. God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters always does it for me. Unloved > Symphony always does it for me; whenever I listen to it, I always get a > visualization of a person, running in what appears to be a mix of hatred and > desperation, through a snowy forest or countryside. The person climbs up a > harrowingly dangerous and steep rock surface. When they reach the top, > there's a beautiful shot of the distance and a rapidly running river below. > As the song climaxes and goes through the major change halfway through, the > person suddenly jumps off the surface, filled with tears of happiness at the > release of the suffering that is life. The daydream ends with a shot of some > birds on the horizon, flying behind a gray sky starting to give way to a > streak of beautiful red shades... > > Sorry if I was overdramatic, but if anyone here directs films/short clips, > possibly an idea? :P Send me the results if so. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: > >http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm > *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* > | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | > | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | > | -Failure, "Solaris" | > | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | > | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | > *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: (mobility) Move (drums on the move) Date: 17 Feb 1998 20:13:20 -0600 Everyone who has the hardware or software to do it should try playing ethan's "Move" mix at different speeds. It still sounds cool when played at a fraction of it's normal speed. I especially like that I was able to pick out several familiar breaks this way. -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital Date: 17 Feb 1998 22:01:47 -0600 (CST) walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me. it's _so_full_ of emotion... that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby... it's possibly my favorite. someone else mentioned Shining, and i agree... _great_ song... and of course "when it's cold i'd like to die" can not be forgotten. stream, my beautiful blue sky, the rain falls... great stuff... on another note, i think Shining, Anthem, Hymn and Every One of My Problems go _very_well_ together. they all seem to have a similar feel to them. anyone agree? as for orbital, in sides is incredible... it's my only album besides snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles i've heard on AMP are _terrific_. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Move Me, Orbital Date: 17 Feb 1998 23:07:06 -0700 danperry@execpc.com wrote: > walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me. it's _so_full_ of emotion... > that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby... it's possibly my favorite. Agreed! "Walnut" and "The Blue Terror of Lawns" are great tracks from Little Idiot. So he had a dog named Walnut? I really like Moby's Instinct-era techno generally more than his also-good-but-different newer stuff. "Next Is The E" I Feel It and Victory mixes were among the first tracks to introduce me to the awesome musical world of Moby. One might say I was 'moved' when I heard them. "Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)" is IMHO one of the best Moby songs ever. I'm talking about the full 12" mix, not the slaughtered radio edit that they included on the CDs. Other remixes of "Move" are also quite good, most notably the Sub Version and the Electro Mix. "All That I Need Is To Be Loved (MV)" is possibly my all-time favorite Moby track. It is very powerful, emotional, technological, and beautiful -- the peak of Moby's techno. There are two rare hardtrance remixes of it (one of which is on the EIW remix double CD) that are also awesome. The House of Suffering Mix, which was included on EIW, is very different and doesn't do anything for me. Also, I like the "Hymn" remixes very much. They usually don't 'move' me as much as the aforementioned songs, but I think they're wonderful and I spent a lot of time and money collecting them all. It was worth it. Actually, I see that I could go on listing other great Moby tracks, such as the "Into The Blue" remixes, Voodoo Child material, and superb remixes of other artists including Eskimos & Egypt, Pet Shop Boys, Brian Eno, Erasure, etc. but then I might end up including a a large percentage of his prolific works in my tip-top-best-of-Moby list, which seems to be too long already... so I'll shut up now. ;) > as for orbital, in sides is incredible... it's my only album besides > snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles > i've heard on AMP are _terrific_. I actually like Snivilisation. I got the impression from people on the Orbital mailing list that it's a really bad album, but when I just had to get my Orbital fix and there was nowhere else to go, I bought it. I'm glad to be among the small fraction of Orbital fans that really likes it. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: (mobility) DANG! Date: 18 Feb 1998 01:19:52 EST whoah! I just plowed through the Mobility mail from January that I have been saving up. After ten cups of coffee and five trips to the bathroom....I am at last up to February 1st....my eyes are buggin out. Gotta love those one liners. This is what I have to say....I have about 25 Moby Cd's and about three pieces of Vinyl....vinyl rules! Also to those who find Aphex Twin too "wierd". You really must go to one of his live shows! A Wall of sound that will knock you off you feet....he is cool. Not much more to say...but to those I am sapposed to send pictures to, don't worry...I have them ready, it's just a question of me getting off my butt and actually mailing them.... -Eekmaus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) Moving me Date: 17 Feb 1998 22:52:28 -0700 in no order of course: living when it's cold i'd like to die voodoo child's end of everything into the blue hymn.alt.quiet.version these are the songs that make the whole world cry Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 18 Feb 1998 06:56:05 +0000 Hmm...its good to see us talkin' about Moby's music, cause honestly, I haven't thought about it too much in a while...maybe its time for me to get back all those moby CD's I lent out! Anyways..I just wanted to get in my 2 cents worth of moby's songs that make me feel all wierd(in a good way) inside...usually those songs are ones that remind of a certain time or place or person that made me so happy, yet so nostalgic, that no words, only music, can describe. I think that's what I love best about Moby's music - that he does make songs that bring about feelings that are so strong that attempting to put them into words would only dimish their magnitude. I find _All that I need is to be love(melodic mix)_, the one near the end of EIW remixed, to be one of the most gut wrenching songs ever. The haunting vocals and melodic instrumentals that moby uses are just incedible. Another song that really does it for me is _Into the Blue(Beatmasters mix)_. The lone decending piano blends beautifully with the chord progression...just lovely. Can't describe, can only cry. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: (mobility) why frankz joined the List + favorites Date: 18 Feb 1998 14:39:18 +0100 All I need is to be Loved, was actually the very first thing I heard from Moby, a friend of mine who makes 'electronic' (what a term) music himself, said that he thought it might be interesting, but said he, 'don't buy his new CD Animal Rights, cause it's all punk and too LOUD... well, i replied, what's wrong about that? So, at the end of 96 he gave me a short demo tape, with All I need is to be... and then Easy body on the Rocks.... Circuital Digit!!! (I love that song....! ) Everything is wrong today.... 'Touch me" (again 'NEED' some more, not want more, no NEED MORE!) Followed by Into the Blue, then i was sold... ofcourse i know there are 22 different versions of Into the Blue, and I have only 4, but send them in, i want to have them ALL....that song digs deep into me.... very deep.... I like all versions so far... well a few months later i went to the store to listen to A.R. anyway, I shouted already the first time i heard it, whole personel got upset.... I asked if they could turn it up louder, but they couldnt... whole headphones burnt down.... Come On Baby! The fact that i had fallen in love just before i boutght AR has anything to do with it, or the other way around? I fell in love because AR gave the feeling I was ALIVE again! And Music had a FUTURE! And Moby showed that so clear! 4 songs from AR are my all time fav's Come on Baby My Love will Never Die Say it's all Mine & Face it So, the police called, and they made a proposition: NO MORE Animal Rights, or we take the speakers away! Then I shouted at them: "ALL rights are Animal Rights, p*gs!" Then they went away... Djeeee....did I play that loud! Again a few months later i joined the List, and someone send me Daemons....!!! I think Daemons is really a MASTERPiece - it's different from AR ofcourse, but it is SO GOOD! I can play that every day! I still don't have so much... I still NEED to have MORE! Move is also very favorite of mine... (it makes me feel SO good!) now i'm going to apply for a job, wish me luck, 8-) frankz, but not _the_ ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: Sampling (Utah Saints) Date: 18 Feb 1998 01:00:57 +0000 In message <34E8C4B0.6732A44D@osf1.gmu.edu>, "Jose M. Cordoba" writes >UTAH SAINTS!! My other favorite group! Here's what I know: according to a net source the Utah Saints have completed a new album called "Wired World" that will be released in the next few months. They also played a set in bristol in April 95 consisting of all-new material. -- Mark Reed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: (mobility) Orbital sniv Date: 18 Feb 1998 09:07:19 -0600 I love sniv. I think it is one of the coolest and most creative electronic record ever produced. I have listened to that album many a nights on trips to home from college and have really come to appreciate it subtle genius. Their first album is definitely worth getting since the classic track satan is on there along with a remix from moby called speed freak. In sides is great too. The box, what a cool song. I recommend getting the satan single with satan live. It has an insides track on it that rocks live. By the way, go see them live. They don't move much, but the way they performed made me feel like i was tripping. At 11:07 PM 2/17/98 -0700, you wrote: >danperry@execpc.com wrote: >> walnut is an extremely passionate song, to me. it's _so_full_ of emotion... >> that dog must have meant a _lot_ to moby... it's possibly my favorite. > >Agreed! "Walnut" and "The Blue Terror of Lawns" are great tracks from >Little Idiot. So he had a dog named Walnut? > >I really like Moby's Instinct-era techno generally more than his >also-good-but-different newer stuff. "Next Is The E" I Feel It >and Victory mixes were among the first tracks to introduce me to >the awesome musical world of Moby. One might say I was 'moved' >when I heard them. > >"Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)" is IMHO one of the best Moby songs >ever. I'm talking about the full 12" mix, not the slaughtered radio >edit that they included on the CDs. Other remixes of "Move" are also >quite good, most notably the Sub Version and the Electro Mix. > >"All That I Need Is To Be Loved (MV)" is possibly my all-time favorite >Moby track. It is very powerful, emotional, technological, and >beautiful -- the peak of Moby's techno. There are two rare hardtrance >remixes of it (one of which is on the EIW remix double CD) that are >also awesome. The House of Suffering Mix, which was included on EIW, >is very different and doesn't do anything for me. > >Also, I like the "Hymn" remixes very much. They usually don't 'move' >me as much as the aforementioned songs, but I think they're wonderful >and I spent a lot of time and money collecting them all. It was >worth it. > >Actually, I see that I could go on listing other great Moby tracks, >such as the "Into The Blue" remixes, Voodoo Child material, and >superb remixes of other artists including Eskimos & Egypt, Pet Shop >Boys, Brian Eno, Erasure, etc. but then I might end up including a >a large percentage of his prolific works in my tip-top-best-of-Moby >list, which seems to be too long already... so I'll shut up now. ;) > >> as for orbital, in sides is incredible... it's my only album besides >> snivilisation (which most agree isn't very good), but all the singles >> i've heard on AMP are _terrific_. > >I actually like Snivilisation. I got the impression from people on >the Orbital mailing list that it's a really bad album, but when I >just had to get my Orbital fix and there was nowhere else to go, I >bought it. I'm glad to be among the small fraction of Orbital fans >that really likes it. > >Dan > > > Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: Re: (mobility) voodoo child Date: 18 Feb 1998 09:19:59 -0600 So would I, but end of everything sure is great to study to. At 06:35 PM 2/16/98 EST, you wrote: >I'm wondering why Moby put out such a mellow album as V.C.? all the other V.C. >stuff is sooo hard! Its like the old school part of him. I really would love >to hear more harder techno from Moby soon. By the way, the song in the credits >of Double Tap is very very similar to Dark. > >dj tripp > > > Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: (mobility) stuff i like Date: 18 Feb 1998 09:35:50 -0600 Westbam remix of FSR - My introduction to Moby came from hearing this song at a bar/club here at school. What caught my attention was interlude with only the strings, well synth strings. Go subliminal mix - Groovy video. Hymn This is my dream - I first heard this song on the video for it on the Moby CD-ROM. Cool video, cooler song. Next is the E - My favorite. The long mix that he plays live, and I believe track 4 or 5 on the single, is by far the best. Drug fits the face - I have always wanted to here that live Party Time - I think thats the name of it. of course Move of course every time you touch me there Revolver remix track 1, I love it. Excellent build up. Come on baby, well come on Moby. Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Heininger" Subject: (mobility) Re: move me Date: 18 Feb 1998 11:08:26 -0600 ok he"ll say something. angry johnny was immensely moved by the following songs... feeling so real (westbam mix). johnny had just started listening to moby when he was sitting in the back seat of this car driving around aimlessly in this hell hole known as st. paul. well like this kid was playing a mix tape by polter (jungle vibe collective baby!) when the song started to be mixed in, well johnny had never heard such a power song like that and for those few minutes no else exsisted. when its cold id like to die. duh. angry johnny almost was almost no longer because this song made him so sad. angry johnny sat in a bathtub holding a hair dryer ready to turn it on and drop it in the water. well 2 hours went by and he started to feel kinda stupid hymn(alt.queit) and the 20 min song at the end of the little idiot cd. on a hot night he sits by como lake with these songs playin on his hedfones watchin the pretty boys and grrrls walk by. angry johnny gets pissed so he lites up a doobie angry johnny done ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KCMobyFan@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Move-ing Date: 18 Feb 1998 15:20:26 EST Moby stuff that moves me: Everytime You Touch Me (Pure Joy Mix): This song is so happy and it sounds great in "Mixed & Remixed" with Feeling So Real (Westbam Mix). I know loads of people hate that sort of repetitive vocals in songs but I think Moby does it so well. Come On Baby / Come On Baby (Eskimos & Egypt 7" Mix) Really angry and emotional I love it. I saw Moby do this on TOTP on TV when he had "Porn Star" or soething like that on his chest and I thought it was cool. Brilliant song. Anthem The best track from Everything Is Wrong, I like all his techno stuff. Unloved Sympathy Scary Anyway that's what I like- KeithC. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NoFxOi7@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Move-ing Date: 18 Feb 1998 15:58:37 EST do you think you could send me a wav file on that angry and emotinal song to me thanks -domanation- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) songs that move me, my tape, remixes, other random stuff Date: 18 Feb 1998 14:39:02 -0800 (PST) Hey Moby Monks (or monkeys...) Personally, every Moby song moves me. Moby is one of the few artists I've heard where every one of his songs has the power to move you. All of his music will soothe the savage beast. God moving... Is definitely moving. I also like Next Is the E (even though I've only heard 2 mixes of it, any mix of that song would be good), Mobility (Aqua mix on rare), all the classical/ambient songs I've heard, pretty much anything by him can move me. Even the Schoolhouse Rock song can move me to an extent. Some other artists that really move me like him are Orbital, Goldie (the song Letter of Fate on his new cd particularly, I've heard it once, but it's awesome, and its autobiographical, he really means it), and Aphex's "I Care Because You DO" (I don't have any of his early stuff.) I just finished recording my first tape yesterday. I think I'm going to use the name "DJ Shapeshifter". I'm not sure what to call it though. It's a pretty nice mix of techno songs, ambient songs, noise songs, sound collages (hilarious sound collages I might add), songs I recorded with my kid siblings, stuff like that. It sounds pretty good for a tape recorded on a Casio, with a boombox or a $40 Sony tape recorder my mom bought me for Hannukah recently. Some of the songs on that tape really move me (particularly "Die or Jump Off", "Poetry" and "Hold". I just don't know what to call it. I was thinking about something like "Front 242 VS. Pizzicato 5" (hmmm... that equals Weird Jumbled Mess Of Music 247...Just like my favorite radio station, WPKN!!! ) I have a whole word bank of titles on my other computer, but none of 'em ever seem to fit the songs I make...well, please e-mail me off-list if you have a title for my tape, or if you want to know more about it, or if you want a copy...I really want other people to hear my music, just to hear what they think about it...doesn't everyone? One last thing...yesterday I was listening to a tape of stuff I taped off the radio (including live Chem.Bros., live Orbital (no Halcyon, though, but a killer version of Satan...), and That's When I Reach... by you-know-who)...I pressed play the second it turned 8:15 pm, and the second it clicked at the end of the tape, it was 9:02...weird...what's weirder is that clock (a digital alarm clock) is always 5 minutes behind every other clock in the house, even when I add 10 minutes... weird.. I just thought of something...instead of a compilation (or maybe boxed set)of Moby's remixes, maybe all the bands he remixed should remix a song of his...of course that would be hard, they'd have to get Michael Jackson to do a remix... okay, I've been chewing too much fat, and I'm on a diet :-) hey all you philosophers, listen to this!!! "HAKUNA MATATA, WHAT A WONDERFUL PHRASE!!! ...IT'S OUR PROBLEM FREE PHILOSOPHY!!! (the lion king, duh) == Adios Amigos, ~~PAUL~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vampyre3@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) DANG! Date: 18 Feb 1998 17:56:50 EST hi, I just wanted to let you know that I am away at school now, and my home address will be changed, so if u send the pics to the adress I gave you I won't get them. So here is my school address: University of Iowa 100 Currier Hall # E 320 Iowa City, Iowa 52242 Thanks a lot, I can't wait to see them Kim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G. Walker" Subject: (mobility) Every one of my problems Date: 18 Feb 1998 18:11:01 +0500 I want to comment on Every One of My Problems, from the Revolver re-mix cd...well, I think it's great and deserves more attention. Right up there (well, not quite as high up) as Feeling so Real...it's a classic! I love it. Another thing that's great...the whole first cd of EiW Mixed & Re-mixed...incredible, esp Feeling so Real by Westbam--but since a bunch of ppl on this list have already mentioned that, I don't have to go into details...that cd is one of my fave Moby cds, tho. For a few weeks there I listened to it everyday, exclusively....well, that's also the same thing that I did when I first bougth Animal Rights, and couldn't stop listening to it...which brings me to another point...I think it's hard to choose favorites for AR. A lot of the songs are very similar and bleed together. Now, I love that cd (it was my first intro to Moby's stuff) but I see it all as one part. All the songs have the same sort of atmosphere and really work together. ("Please listen to Animal Rights at least once in it's entirety") where as EiW is really a big musical grab bag. In this respect I think that AR is more, shall we say, a finished album? than EiW. And since the only vocal on AR is Moby himself, it strikes me as being more personal then EiW. Well, those are my thoughts for tonite, bye. ~ginger~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Schoolhouse Rocks! Date: 18 Feb 1998 18:15:30 -0800 >much anything by him can move me. Even the Schoolhouse Rock song can >move me to an extent. Some other artists that really move me like him Funny that you should mention that disc today; I've had it for almost a year now but I listened to most of the tracks for the first time last night. I couldn't believe how good that Chavez song was! It was the last style of music I expected to find on that cd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MobyScore@aol.com Subject: (mobility) New to the List!READ THIS! Date: 18 Feb 1998 21:04:52 EST My name is Ivy, but everyone calls me Moby. As you can see, I'm pretty obsessed with Moby, and the thrill of my life is when I met Moby! Yeah, baby. Anywayz---> My Moby collection(this is gonna take awhile): I like to Score Moby(EP) Ambient Rare Collected B-sides Feeling So Real Animal Rights Drop a Beat Every Time You Touch Me Everything is Wrong:Mixed and Remixed Early Underground Voodoo Child Moby Everything is Wrong My favorite disc: I Like to Score Why? Because it's just a good mix of a lot of his different songs. My favorite song: New Dawn Fades Other good bands: Cornershop,Tool,KMFDM,Prodigy,Radiohead,London Suede,Black Grape,Chemical Brothers,Tricky,Pulp,Filter,Hum, and the list goes on... ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA KNOW? ~~Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MobyScore@aol.com Subject: (mobility) New to the List!READ THIS! Date: 18 Feb 1998 21:04:52 EST My name is Ivy, but everyone calls me Moby. As you can see, I'm pretty obsessed with Moby, and the thrill of my life is when I met Moby! Yeah, baby. Anywayz---> My Moby collection(this is gonna take awhile): I like to Score Moby(EP) Ambient Rare Collected B-sides Feeling So Real Animal Rights Drop a Beat Every Time You Touch Me Everything is Wrong:Mixed and Remixed Early Underground Voodoo Child Moby Everything is Wrong My favorite disc: I Like to Score Why? Because it's just a good mix of a lot of his different songs. My favorite song: New Dawn Fades Other good bands: Cornershop,Tool,KMFDM,Prodigy,Radiohead,London Suede,Black Grape,Chemical Brothers,Tricky,Pulp,Filter,Hum, and the list goes on... ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA KNOW? ~~Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) I Must Be Dreaming Date: 18 Feb 1998 21:43:17 -0600 I'm enjoying all this discussion about what Moby songs move you the most. But I can't believe no one has mentioned "Hymn (This is My Dream)." I think it's a beautiful track that combines all the best of his elememts and makes me paint pictures in my mind every time I hear it. Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com) bigwig@ricochetmusic.com "I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce." -- Jimmy James, "News Radio" "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." -- Moby, musician. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) I Must Be Dreaming Date: 19 Feb 1998 00:11:39 -0800 >I'm enjoying all this discussion about what Moby songs move you the most. >But I can't believe no one has mentioned "Hymn (This is My Dream)." I think >it's a beautiful track that combines all the best of his elememts and makes >me paint pictures in my mind every time I hear it. I think Keith Forsythe mentioned it actually-it's a fantastic track. Does anybody know the availability of the other Hymn singles ? (not H.A.Q.V or the 4 track This is my dream one).... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tommi Saarela Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 18 Feb 1998 22:33:44 +0200 At 10:40 17.2.1998 -0800, someone wrote: >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them? I mean *really* >move you, like virtually to tears. I know personally I can't listen to When Say It's All Mine, New Dawn Fades and Into The Blue make me feel quite strange if I listen to them when I'm alone and sad... /-----------------------------------------------\ | External/TNSP | | external@ruulinux.ruukki.raaseu.fi | | external@gnwmail.com | | http://ruulinux.ruukki.raaseu.fi/~external | | Phone: (08) 271 251 (in Finland) | | The Truth Is In Da House | \----------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) I Must Be Dreaming Date: 19 Feb 1998 07:30:13 -0700 Rekkit wrote: > Does anybody know the availability of the other Hymn singles ? (not H.A.Q.V > or the 4 track This is my dream one).... availability = long out of print So if you want the German singles, you better start searching hard. I got mine from CD Europe and German Music Express, but I don't think they carry them anymore. You may want to start out by seeing if any of the stores linked at http://www.moby.org/merc.html have them, then check search engines and Yahoo for online German music stores or other importers, and if you still can't find it, look for music stores anywhere in Europe. Failing that, you could post a "WTB: Moby Hymn singles" message in rec.music.marketplace.cd. Good luck! Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: Re: (mobility) Move me Date: 19 Feb 1998 13:37:37 +0100 On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 10:33:44PM +0200, Tommi Saarela wrote: > At 10:40 17.2.1998 -0800, someone wrote: > >Does anybody else have specific Moby tracks that move them? I mean *really* > >move you, like virtually to tears. I know personally I can't listen to When > > Say It's All Mine, New Dawn Fades and Into The Blue make me feel quite > strange if I listen to them when I'm alone and sad... Well, I would like to "feel moved" listening to some songs, but as a non- native english speaker, I should know the lyrics very well, so I can know what's been singing. When I listen to english songs, I just dont pay attention to the lyrics easier than with spanish songs. But I remember to feel move with Jon Secada's "Angel", Madonna's "I want you" and Maria Carey's "Hero". I have the lyrics, and they're perfectly inteligible (well, Jon Secada has a version in spanish ;) I personally feel refilled with energy when listening to some AR songs (the punkish ones), EIW happy songs, and "Oil 1", for example, and relaxed with ambient themes, but I guess this is not uncommon. I wonder how will it be making love while listening to slow Moby themes ? |-? Jonathan. -- 512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: (mobility) Consolidated Tour(No Moby) Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:44:50 -0500 For those of you who want political lyrics in your music..But don't want to wait for Moby to put politics into his music..Check out Consolidated..Songs about animal rights...women's rights..gay rights..the environment..or..the liner notes to EIW put to music :) Just a warning though..this is a "rock" show..Those of you who might know(and even listen to) Consolidated..The song are mostly from the new album "Dropped"..Adam did play Cutting and No Answer For A Dancer(and a rock version of Tool And Die)..But don't expect that industrial/techno/hiphop sound of yesteryear. PLEASE go if you can though..it's cheep($5 for me)..and Adam donates ticket sales to local groups..So everyone wins in the end. Thanks for listening :) Ryan >From: Sol3Rec@aol.com >Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:24:03 EST >Subject: Consolidated Tour >X-UIDL: 146192f58aa7708ab6a7cc587b60e799 > >Friday March 13 7th Street Entry Minneapolis, MN >Saturday March 14 Warehouse La Crosse, WI >Sunday March 15 The Rave Milwaukee, WI >Monday March 16 Cicero's St. Louis, MO >Tuesday March 17 The Metro Chicago, IL >Wednesday March 18 The Intersection Grand Rapids, MI >Thursday March 19 Shelter/St. Andrews Hall Detroit, MI >Friday March 20 Call the Office London, ONT >Saturday March 21 Lee's Palace Toronto, ONT >Sunday March 22 Les Foufounes Electriques Montreal, QUE >Monday March 23 Wetlands Preserve New York, NY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "...Have you heard of East Timor?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Lawyer" Subject: (mobility) Re: Welcome to mobility Date: 19 Feb 1998 10:33:25 CST6CDT My name is Michael Cyrus Lawyer, I'm 16 years old (but age is based on experiences and accomplishments, right?) I currently possess these Moby albums: (all CDs) Everything is Wrong USA Animal Rights USA Into the Blue Into the Blue remixed Everytime you touch me USA Feeling so real UK Come on Baby UK Thats when I reach for my revolver UK Feeling so real USA Move Next is the E UK The end of everything I like to score USA James Bond Theme USA Moby Ambient Early Underground Rare: The collected B-sides (Go: The collected mixes) Bring back my Happiness Everything is wrong: nonstop evil ninja Moby mix Moby: Disk I am always searching for more various Moby CDs. Moby Paraphernalia: 2 Moby shirts 1 Circular Moby sticker, affixed to the center of my favorite Woofer 1/6 of a shirt soaked with the sweat of Moby 1 Waterbottle touched by the lips of Moby. I first heard of Moby when I was 12, A friend of mine in St. Louis lent me her copy of Everything is Wrong and I fell in love that night. Recently I have extended my collection of Moby as I gained access to the internet and was no longer limited to perusing such stores as Best Buy's small selection. I have also begun mixing his music on my computer using SoundEdit 16, a relatively obselete program. Most recently I have had the opportunity to attend one of his concerts. I was, of course, blown away and enve loped by Moby's awesome live ambience. (I also broke my nose in the mosh pit) Moby is by far the most enjoyable music to listen to, he is, simply put, the "best" musical artist. I don't consider myself "obsessed", I consider myself "appreciative". Thanks to Christ. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Lawyer" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby's Musical Direction Date: 19 Feb 1998 10:58:39 CST6CDT Let me be straightforward. I love Moby. How can I go about obtaining semi-rare/rare Moby CDs? I am new to the list and thought I could appeal to all your munificent wisdom for assistence in my quest for ambience. I have read all those discographies, but they don't help me obtain such music. Where can I turn? Maybe Milwaukee isn't exactly the place to be for someone who loves Moby so much. I thought 20 Cds would be a dream, now I hear of some guys "glancing over at my Moby c.d. collection that consists of 32 discs." RT (phathead@flash.net) I have mixed feelings of envy and admiration (tinged with greed?). -Cye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Madonna Date: 19 Feb 1998 15:32:26 EST to tell you the truth....i thought moby produced that track for her cos it just sounds so damm good and there is so much love in that song....love..elie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laurie Bland Subject: Re: (mobility) moby has left the list -- Reply part one Date: 19 Feb 1998 16:16:44 -0500 Ryu, I agree with you...Though I just joined the list. You'd think a mailing list for moby would discuss his philosophies. All I'm reading is a bunch of boring crap about release dates and such. Anywayz...I'd be happy to give you an orgasm by replying to you Q...Yes, there is room for everyone to set their priorities; that is, if they could do it and mind their own business at the same time. That's a hard thing for most christians to do...I only know of a few cool christians, Moby being one of them. As for Moby violating his beliefs by singing only about relationships when he cares so much for the environment...That's not violating his beliefs, i'm just guessing he feels more musically inspired by love than political issues. Well...I'm hoping people will follow your example, and bring up some interesting topics...I'll see yall later. Love, vampris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) This is my Dream Date: 19 Feb 1998 16:25:26 EST Something about this is my dream doesn't get me. it's not very moving to me only for two reasons; #1; Moby saying "This Is My Dream" #2; The Screaching Vocal that is so loud it hurts, maybe with a less beautiful soundscape behind it i could look past those two things, but for me i need the whole of it to be perfect...btw i need to also find the german import of hymn, if anyone on the list finds an online store that carries it, please let me know. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: (mobility) making love Date: 19 Feb 1998 16:28:35 EST In a message dated 98-02-19 10:24:49 EST, you write: << I wonder how will it be making love while listening to slow Moby themes ? |- >> it is wonderful. moby has a way of making great lovemaking songs. dj tripp (not that i would know (: ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: (mobility) "Thanks" Compilation Date: 19 Feb 1998 15:27:31 -0800 Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today! And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!! Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the production quality of the entire project is downright slick. The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even more. My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn not.quiet.version). What a TERRIFIC CD!!! Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat, too, because I feel like I know you all personally. A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2! Peace, Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bonnie Williams Subject: Re: (mobility) Sampling Date: 19 Feb 1998 15:38:16 -0800 Stuart Adair wrote: > > From: Rekkit > Date: 17 February 1998 15:58 > > >> I just got 'In Sides' the other day, and what is the deal with > Bon > >>Jovi and Belinda Carlisle? > > you can hear this @ liveconcerts.com...just a thought in case people don't know what yr talking about-it's really...interesting and more and more intriguing each time you hear it...sorry for the lack of moby content...oh wait! i do have a question...i saw a few posts about a rebroadcasting of a moby concert...is there anyway to find that in an archive somewhere, cuz i can record stuff from the comp. to a tape and it would be wonderful to have a moby concert... kc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laurie Bland Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 19 Feb 1998 21:59:05 -0500 K...Ryu loves a good challenge. I got a simple Q then, and your response might lead to a good discussion. People such as Moby (and you) seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct. Tell me, how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son, and that Jesus died for our "sins"? (That may have sounded a bit smart assy, but I dont mean it that way.) Just wondering, vampris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: (mobility) Moby and Non-Christians Date: 19 Feb 1998 21:13:06 -0600 She's got an interesting point. I consider myself an atheist and I still love Moby. I think that usually such a christian slant on music turns me off of it, but with moby I don't really care. I also am a meat eater and I'm not that concerned with the ecosystem. (unlike moby) Still, though, I love Moby's music. Rob S Laurie Bland wrote: > K...Ryu loves a good challenge. I got a simple Q then, and your > response might lead to a good discussion. People such as Moby (and you) > seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct. Tell me, > how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son, > and that Jesus died for our "sins"? (That may have sounded a bit smart > assy, but I dont mean it that way.) > Just wondering, > vampris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 19 Feb 1998 20:35:20 -0700 the way i see it, there is no wrong religion, nor a right one. religion just offers a sense of belonging and faith. it explains the unknown (i.e. origin of man) and explains why things are the way they are. as for Jesus, i really don't know much about this area.. but i see him as this. there was a person named Jesus, who was as significant. he may not have been able to walk on water or turn water into wine, but he offered a new perspective on life... a new systems of beliefs. he taught ppl to love instead of hate. now, it may not have spread that far, and lost its original meaning, but it did cause a great change in things. this is how i see it, then again.. i'm not a reliable source. religion is personal.. therefore no one can tell u that what u believe in is wrong.. and if they do, then they are wrong. because their religion is just as wrong as yours, and just as right. as the Buddha himself once said: "work out your own salvation." Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ ---------- > From: Laurie Bland > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... > Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 7:59 PM > > K...Ryu loves a good challenge. I got a simple Q then, and your > response might lead to a good discussion. People such as Moby (and you) > seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct. Tell me, > how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son, > and that Jesus died for our "sins"? (That may have sounded a bit smart > assy, but I dont mean it that way.) > Just wondering, > vampris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Chim" Subject: Re: (mobility) This is my Dream Date: 19 Feb 1998 22:45:12 +0000 I don't like Hymn(This is my dream) either. I find the song irritating. But Hymn(European Edit) is amazing. I find its so much more refined than this is my dream, and it may be my fav. moby track. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) This is my Dream Date: 19 Feb 1998 21:42:23 -0600 Does anyone no where I can get an mp3 of hymn?????? I'm desparate to hear this song!!!!! rob s Ben Chim wrote: > I don't like Hymn(This is my dream) either. I find the song > irritating. But Hymn(European Edit) is amazing. I find its so much > more refined than this is my dream, and it may be my fav. moby track. > > Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: (mobility) liveconcerts archive Date: 19 Feb 1998 19:47:50 -0800 Any word on the Moby liveconcerts broadcast being archived? Any word at all? Peace, Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) liveconcerts archive Date: 20 Feb 1998 03:54:47 GMT Right now I am listening to the Orbital Concert and I not find a Moby listing anywhere. They never got back to me about archiving it either. Anyone have some inside info? This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) religious debates... Date: 19 Feb 1998 23:30:21 -0600 (CST) >Tell me, >how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son, >and that Jesus died for our "sins"? (That may have sounded a bit smart >assy, but I dont mean it that way.) >Just wondering, >vampris please, if you are going to begin a religious debate (which btw has already been done on mobility) please do so privately. thanks. andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 20 Feb 1998 00:35:54 -0500 At 09:59 PM 2/19/98 -0500, you wrote: >K...Ryu loves a good challenge. I got a simple Q then, and your >response might lead to a good discussion. People such as Moby (and you) >seem to be so sure that your religious beliefs are correct. Tell me, >how is it you are so sure that there is a God, that Jesus was his son, >and that Jesus died for our "sins"? (That may have sounded a bit smart >assy, but I dont mean it that way.) nothing at all can be proven true or false. you can not prove to me that an apple is red. or that there is gravity. or that the sky is up. nothing is correct. nothing is false. it's all a matter of relativity, oppinion, and personal comprehension of universal ideas. i am not sure that there is a god, or that christ was his son. there is no way for me to know for sure. what allows me to believe what i do is called "faith". what makes faith as strong as it is, is that it CAN'T be proven. i am not saying that my religious beliefs are correct. in fact, i really don't ever mention my religious beliefs unless someone asks me. i will dragon punch anyone who says that what they define as real and true and just is any better than what someone's realities, truths, and justices. you can say that i am "against" that sort of ideal. i love god because i see everyday that he loves me. by breathing his air, by listening to his music, by having his orgasms. by standing, by typing, by crapping. that doesn't mean that you have to feel the same. in fact, it'd upset me if you felt the same. i don't want everyone to see things the way i do. otherwise, what's the point? sorry, if that was a rant, but me likes to talk. love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: but not _the_ frankz Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 20 Feb 1998 02:00:05 -0700 At 12:35 AM 2/20/98 -0500, you wrote: > >nothing at all can be proven true or false. even true or false can be proven if you stick to logic or: non of the above, is: not-true not-false (tautologism) or: both of the above, is: as well true as false Believes cant be proven, that's why they called 'believe' >you can not prove to me that an apple is red. don't need to, 'red' is a convention, and conventions dont need prove >or that there is gravity. except when I pull your leg... >or that the sky is up. There is a BIG difference between 'going up' and 'going down', everybody can prove that...! >nothing is correct. This is right! >nothing is false. This is wrong >it's all a matter of relativity, oppinion, and personal comprehension of >universal ideas. Mmm... I'm still searching... Socrates proved to me yesterday that the soul is immortal! At least some souls.... In one and a half page! Before he started the prove, he said: "You can do this yourself..." So now i can prove it to anyone! Socrates is the GREATEST! ---------------------- Logic: the one thing that counts http://home.wxs.nl/~til00003/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kpicara@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Why I joined this list... Date: 20 Feb 1998 04:03:03 EST ahh! this is waaay off- topic! i can see this going baaad places! let's just all think our own little spiritual things in our own little ways okay? just keeping the peace. . sarah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 06:01:31 -0700 you're on a desert island you can only have one moby disk one out of all voodoo child, little idiot, the whole moby posse which one would it be? Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pedersen, Trond Erik" Subject: (mobility) RE: Moby on a desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 15:58:00 +0100 >you're on a desert island >you can only have one moby disk >one out of all voodoo child, little idiot, the whole moby posse >which one would it be? Would definitely be the Everything Is Wrong : Mixed & Remixed & Remixed & Mixed. This is the first album I bought of Moby, and the one that REALLY blew my mind. After listening to these CDs virtually every day for the last year and a half I'm still not tired of them (but I guess my CD is quite tired of them, it sometimes start skipping and "autoreversing" like a madman). EIW:MRRM was also the CDs that reintroduced me to Moby as I like to know him. After my first meeting with Moby throug Go, Move, Next is the E, Feeling so real and Hymn I unfortunately encountered some of his, IMHO less successful, punk-inspired works which made me forget about Moby for a while.I think EIW:MRRM pretty well sums up the real genius of electronica-Moby (er..hrrm..pardon the expression). But wait ..... Eh.. a desert island??? Where would I get the CD-player/turntable??? And where would the electricity come from???? I guess Moby could accompany me to this island and ride an ergometer bike with a _powerful_ dynamo to power my 3,5 KW Yamaha/Energy/Electocompagniet Stereo so that I could listen to the tunes of the Evil Ninja. BTW that would be a totally environment-friendly way of making electricity, too, in good Moby spirit. -Just had to (c8 Trond. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sunfire647@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:30:53 EST I would have to say the Move EP without a doubt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SpeakNeasy@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:38:52 EST WHere did you get DArk from? I have never heard of it THeo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:49:54 -0800 >which one would it be? Everything Is Wrong, because you're bound to be in several different moods while you're on the island.... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:51:20 -0800 >WHere did you get DArk from? I have never heard of it Dark is track four on the "That's When I Reach For My Revolver Remix" single. It's the orange colored case, not the black one, and not the cardboard one..... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Stegenga Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 10:04:12 -0600 >Everything Is Wrong, because you're bound to be in several different moods >while you're on the island.... Ditto. EIW is his most diverse album, in my opinion, and I still get chills when I hear the opening keyboards in "Feeling so Real." Chills would be a good thing on a desert island too, since it would be so hot and all... But can I take one more CD with as well...non moby? I really would like to bring London Calling by The Clash. Is that ok? Pretty please? Scott Steg ...I Love Carrots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SpeakNeasy@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) This is my Dream Date: 20 Feb 1998 11:13:42 EST Perhaps you just have to be at the right place at the right time. For me Hymn-This is m Dream is a representation of my love for Christ. I an thrilled that I was able to study at Paris and read the bible at the same time that I listened to it. It is to me a perfect example of how my life became perfect one day and has been perfect ever since. I usually keep to myself and am a quiet person but inside of me there are two suns shining in the sky whenever I listen to this song Theo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: (mobility) whoa...he's outta control. Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:04:53 -0500 man, i'm frazzled.... hyper. goin' to kelly's this weekend. mmmm....i'll reply to all your mails soon. just using the fact that i'm going there as an excuse for my cockiness in the last email! bye. love, ryu who is listening to king tubby. are you? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates... Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:41:23 -0500 (EST) i agree with this. i don't think there is much of a point in argueing about religion, because it's all personal,and if one person believes there is a god, and a son jesus christ, than there is. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:44:13 -0500 (EST) everything is wrong definitely. it is my masturbating tool. :) cookypuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Lawyer" Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates... Date: 20 Feb 1998 13:01:34 CST6CDT I have to side with the Deists, here. I feel that our ability to have faith in a greater being is proof inherent of itself that such a being exists. That may sound circular, but it satisfies my search for the truth. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: Re: (mobility) Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:23:45 PST does anyone know who to talk to to get this cd looks really kick ass > >Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today! > >And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!! > >Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the >production quality of the entire project is downright slick. > >The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued >together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even >more. > >My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing >BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn not.quiet.version). >What a TERRIFIC CD!!! > > Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat, >too, because I feel like I know you all personally. > >A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2! > >Peace, > >Dan > > > ********************************************************************** Evil Ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i do not want this don't you tell me how i feel you don't know just how i feel ---------------nine inch nails---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: Re: (mobility) thanks compilation Date: 20 Feb 1998 12:24:57 PST does anyone know who to talk to to get this cd looks really kick ass > >Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today! > >And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!! > >Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the >production quality of the entire project is downright slick. > >The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued >together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even >more. > >My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing >BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn not.quiet.version). >What a TERRIFIC CD!!! > > Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat, >too, because I feel like I know you all personally. > >A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2! > >Peace, > >Dan > > > ********************************************************************** Evil Ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i do not want this don't you tell me how i feel you don't know just how i feel ---------------nine inch nails---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 15:47:40 -0800 >everything is wrong definitely. it is my masturbating tool. As long as it's strictly an auditory tool, and not a logistical one... ;) Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby's jungle Date: 20 Feb 1998 15:53:45 EST its on the revolver cd import single ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 13:10:30 PST >you're on a desert island >you can only have one moby disk >one out of all voodoo child, little idiot, the whole moby posse > >which one would it be? well i would most definatley (sP) "everything is wrong" because that was the album that touched me the most with the songs everything is wrong,GMOTFOTW,WiCILtD,into the blue, everytime you touch me,and bring back my happiness. all his albums kick so much ass but this one went in my soul and rewrote my beliefs i used to be full of hate and listen to theings like marilyn manson all the time but after i heard EiW i stoped list to MM and others (except nin they're the greatest) all the time but don't get me wrong i still love to listen to MM just not as much. You see MM is good when you are in a hate mood (which i haven't been in alot any more). thanks for listening/reading to my input i hope it was helpful nothing is a sacrifice as long as it helps atleast one person--quote me ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 21:54:45 GMT Ill tell you what. I would strand myself on a desert island if I could find a copy of Next is the E there. I have been looking for that CD forever, and it is my favorite song. Plus, I would get so pissed off at listening to those nice mellow tracks on EIW if I was stuck on an island that I would throw it away. But what I was really thinking was that I would like to have Rare B sides and use the front side to reflect light, burn a palm tree and then get rescued. That way I would not ruin the playable side and get saved. This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FlameANUS@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Fwd: your satan letter(if possible please foward) Date: 20 Feb 1998 18:09:10 EST This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_888016150_boundary Content-ID: <0_888016150@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_888016150_boundary Content-ID: <0_888016150@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-path: Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Satan, as you call the supreme power of evil, is no more real than your heterosexuality. Satan was created in the imaginations of facsist christians and other orginized religions to make us fear our actions and gain control through fear. There are only two human emotions that god has given us, LOVE and FEAR. God is all mighty, right? Right, so why would he be constantly battling an "evil" spirit. Satan is non-existent. Satanism, is a philosophy that is somewhat close to social darwinism and the teachings of Nietschze. This belief system promotes the discovery of self and individuality. There are, however, (just as in any "religion") empty rituals no different than excepting the host or bread at a sunday mass. These rituals and codes of ethics are what difine religion and make so empty and uninticing. Religion is for the sinner and faith is for the believer. In this i mean that religion is for a quick easy salvation through fear, not accepting wno you are and assuming(eventhough god loves us) that god wants to place us in firey damnation. This is wrong. We are all apart of a universe apart of god. God is not a being, god is everything that is and everything that isn't.. The fact is i'm sure god doesn't care how we obtain our salvation just as long as we obtain it. There is no hell. God wants us to realize our magnificence and "kill ourselves" (not literlaly) and recreate new selves. We are god, god is us, we are all the same, everything is relative to everything and nothing else. We need to pursue our own paths up the moutain to our enlightenment and act on love more than fear. The more we act on fear, the less chance we have of recreating ourselves. Once reach our optimum possition of complete bliss and understanding, we will realize we have farther to go. We can talk to god and ourselves not through the fallacy of words, but through the power of feeling and the power of expericne. The more we discover as a species, the less we believe our faith, yet, the more we dicover, it is laid out even clearer. We are a stupid people and need to open our eyes to the mystery of uncondition faith and love, not conditional freindships and fear. There are no messiahs, no prophets, no one is better than anyone else. Jesus, Buddah, Muhammed, these were all just enlightened people who had questioned everything, and then found the answer deep within themselves. They found eternal bliss and people become jellous. Jesus was killed through jellousy because he knew who he was, had no fear, realized his magnificence and acted upon it. We all have the power, but are raised through a demeaning torture of twisted lies and fears. Bring about your own beginning, bring about your life, "wash away sin and take off your sin." You won't find comfort in the bible or any other "holy books" or "testaments" because these were written by people no different then you., these books have not been ordained by god, no where does it say they were. Find what god is to you and what your salvation is to you. Remember the bible was written 1000's of years ago for people 1000's of years ago. Find out what your needs are now. I urge you to explore your newself, which is only possible through the loss of the old self. --part0_888016150_boundary-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john-->" Subject: Re: (mobility) thanks compilation Date: 06 Feb 1998 09:15:57 PST hey there- to answer to your question-the cd was a comp. that the list put together= for moby- the cd has a bunch of covers of moby tracks. you can get it = by contacting adam (gingerbread man)-- i think- john--:) ---------- > > does anyone know who to talk to to get this cd looks really kick ass > > > > > >Well, I just got my "Thnaks" compilation CD today! > > > >And I must say, Andrew, you have put together an AWESOME comp CD!!! > > > >Not only are the remixes by mailing list members terrific, but the > >production quality of the entire project is downright slick. > > > >The facts that it's on a recordable CD and the liner notes are glued > >together is pretty ghetto, but that seriously makes me like it even > >more. > > > >My favorite tracks are your mix of "Everytime You Touch Me" (f---ing > >BRILLIANT, man!), the cover of "GMOTFOTW", and "Hymn > not.quiet.version). > >What a TERRIFIC CD!!! > > > > Reading the messages you all wrote in the booklet was really neat, > >too, because I feel like I know you all personally. > > > >A great, GREAT CD, Gingerbread, here's hoping there's a Vol. 2! > > > >Peace, > > > >Dan > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > Evil Ninja > ninfan87@hotmail.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > i do not want this > don't you tell me how i feel > you don't know just how i feel > ---------------nine inch nails---------------------------------------- > ********************************************************************** > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George N Xanthopoulos Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates... Date: 20 Feb 1998 19:21:42 -0500 (EST) ha! that's quite amusing. circular logic, eh? not only do you submit a bullshit argument as a reason to maintain faith, but then you point out that you realize it's bullshit, as well as telling us that you lead your life by this bullshit. on a more rational note, what is the point in proving our personal opinions about why we believe in God on a Moby list? i don't want to start a flame-war, but is it conceivable that the reason moby doesn't talk about "serious issues" in his music is because he realizes it's the WRONG forum? hugs and kisses. gx. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jason(INRI)" Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates... Date: 20 Feb 1998 19:27:59 -0500 although i am an atheist, i feel i should jump in. religion is not about theology, it's about living your life in a certain sort of way. christianity is less about worshipping jesus, as it is about treating your neighbours in a respectful way, and trying to do the right thing. one more thing before i leave this list...... i've noticed that there are a lot of vegheads here. i only have one thing to say to you..... get out of your fantasy utopian world and join reality. i'm sure everyone would love to live in a magical world where there is no suffering and everyone loves each other, but that just isn't going to happen. i'm sure everyone would love to live in a wonderful happy land where you can maintain proper health through the eating of plants, but human beings need meat. that's why mother nature made us this way. if she didn't want us eating meat, then she wouldn't make us want to, would she? meat is an important part of your diet, and you people are going to regret not eating it when you're old and gray. if you want to argue, send it here rwparen@cyberus.ca , inri has left the house. ;';'l;;','Jk;'g';l;/'/'',;,',''';,---------__---___//\/\/\|\||-\?\';\'\\;||| Love is suicide, And if you think that i'm crazy then your goddamn right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Evil Ninja" Subject: Re: (mobility) thanks compilation Date: 20 Feb 1998 17:38:16 PST hey john told me that i could get the "thanks" compilation from adam but i didn't know how to contack adam personally so posted it to the list HEY ADAM IF YOU ARE OUT THERE EMAIL ME SOME DETAILS ON THE "THANKS" COMPILATION AT ninfan87@hotmail.com thanks alot. would love to get it nothing is a sacrifice is someone benefits from it. ********************************************************************** Evil Ninja ninfan87@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i do not want this don't you tell me how i feel you don't know just how i feel ---------------nine inch nails---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy27@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) moby desert island Date: 20 Feb 1998 21:59:33 EST In a message dated 2/20/98 8:00:18 AM, you wrote: <> Definitely "The End Of Everything".....even Moby said himself that that is his best album yet.....plus the scenery on the cover fits the question : ) Fil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: Re: (mobility) Fwd: your satan letter(if possible please Date: 20 Feb 1998 21:07:57 -0700 foward) Sender: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mobility X-No-Archive: yes Wellllllllllllll... wasn't that special. (the church lady) Just to let everyone know, the person that sent this email has unsubscribe along w/another nuisance. Fortunately they both unsubscribed themselves. So let's please forget we ever saw those emails! However, I will not be lenient when it comes to religion and philosophy on this list anymore. If it doesn't relate to Moby you will find yourself unsubscribed. Any questions - then write to me before your post it. I hate babysitting. Cheers! damian@xmission.com owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) compilation cd, tape Date: 21 Feb 1998 10:21:07 -0800 (PST) people are getting copies of the cd already? I hope i get mine soon...i know i sent in the money, i hope no one stole it...$10 is a lot of money to a 14 year old... Oh, for the people who wanted a copy of my tape, um, I'm sorry but I can't make copies and sent them out to you all. You'll have to send me blank tapes. I'm sort of a cheepskate, but I'm only a kid. . o 0 (Now nobody is going to want a copy!) Sorry for any inconveniences. I still have to put a few finishing touches on it. There are some trax I recorded onto other tapes previously that I speed-dubbed onto this tape, so they sound like crap now. Damn. I'll have to dub them agin. And there are other songs that I'm still not sure I want to keep on it. I probably will though, It's nice to have some goofy songs on it I guess. My brother wrote a song about cheese and a song about dinosaurs and we recorded them and they sound kind of silly. But my keyboard playing saves them from totally sucking, I guess. Guess i gotta go. bye == Adios Amigos, ~~PAUL~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) THANX CD Date: 21 Feb 1998 10:39:08 -0800 (PST) Did any1 else get the cd? I hope my $10 didn't get lost in the mail, that would suck, and I really want the cd!!! bla... I would definitely take EIW to a deserted island. It is a perfect album. I was listening to it last nite (for some reason I'm listening to every cd/tape in my collection in abc order) and when i heard God moving... I was thinking of things that make me sad...particularly when my favorite radio station WYBC went off the air...well not really, they just eliminated all student programming and are a 24 hour commercial r&b station now...yukk!! or like when this kid station Aahs World Radio went off the air...I mean they played a lot of krap, but it was nice to know there was a radio station network for kids only...one song that was in heavy rotation a few months before they shut down was moby's james bond theme...kool...i hope wnhu and wpkn never go off the air, or wsmu in north dartmouth massachusetts (saturday nite from 8 to 2 is tha bomb on that station, they play all techno music...dance/rave in the beginning, then jungle/trip hop/ambient after midnite, its awesome...i was listening to "letter of fate" by goldie and i was thinking about things like that...) after i listened to EIW i listened to ILTS, the next in my collection...when GOD moving was on then, i was half-asleep...it reeally brings you into another world when you're not fully awake...when first cool hive started i was so jolted out of this other world that i woke up..but i fell asleep again by the end of the song, i woke up at midnite today...so i have to listen to ILTS again... I listened to New Dawn Fades, which i usually skip over because i think its a boring dirge, but i listened to it and it really moved me...he packs so much emotion into it... of course my fave joy division cver is Bush/Tricky's (in a lonely place" a nice quiet ambient song, enhanced by soft buzzing synths...good to fall asleep to, after all the other electronic noise on the Deconstructed disk...I love the goldie mix on that cd too, its better than the original... whenever i listen to eiw, i feel like an old dead friend comes to me and tells me a 45 minute bedtime story...and when wicil2d comes on, she's saying goodbye, and floating back up to heaven...i almost cry listening to it...maybe they shouldve used it in titanic or something...i've never ssen it though... oh, if you want a copy of my tape, you'l have to e-mail me for my address..I'm sorry i can't send you all a copy, you'll have to send me a blank tape (wait, I said that already..) bye... == Adios Amigos, ~~PAUL~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laurie Bland Subject: (mobility) Reply to Ryu and but not _the_ frankz Date: 21 Feb 1998 13:50:22 -0500 Well, Ryu... That was a good answer. Problem is, frank definitly has a point when he says "except when I pull your leg" for that gravity remark. I suppose you could still say that there is no proof of gravity...Lets say the only reason you fall when your leg is pulled is because you think that you are supposed to fall, not because there is a force that makes you fall. Anywayz, my point is, anything is possible. I just cant seem to put ALL my faith in something I have no real proof of...That just seems dangerous to me. (The problem with my own line of reasoning: How do I know that "real proof" is actually proof, or just my own perception? I could have solid scientific proof right in front of me, but I might not percieve it as such. Of course, that is only questioning the nature of reality itself, which is rather pointless...Since all we have to go on is our own powers of observation anyway.) I may be rambling here, but I'm only trying to say that faith is belief, not knowledge...Which Ryu seems to be aware of. I have my own faiths too...everyone does...I just cant place ALL my trust in a god I havent seen. Well, sorry for babbling on. I'll check in later. Love, vampris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laurie Bland Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates... Date: 21 Feb 1998 14:27:59 -0500 K...I'll try to watch myself...But I really have to wonder, why would a mailing list on Moby, who's spirituality figures into his music so much, not include debates on religion? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) religious debates... Date: 21 Feb 1998 15:26:50 -0700 Laurie Bland wrote: > > K...I'll try to watch myself...But I really have to wonder, why would a > mailing list on Moby, who's spirituality figures into his music so much, > not include debates on religion? I think this is a good and valid question and I appreciate your tactfulness in asking it. Here's my logic (and please excuse me because I am not that great at expressing myself through writing). Often, I have thought to myself that if Moby were on the list he would probably bring these things up and encourage talk about religion and philosophy. Then I would probably go along with it... but it would be on the basis that his participation was involved. Many forums are out there that discuss religion and philosophy whether it is a mailing list or a newsgroup. If people want to discuss those topics, why can't it be done there since the forum was designated for that exact purpose? Granted, if you allude to Moby, people won't know what you are referring to but that is the price (I guess) that must be paid. I figure since I created this list SPECIFICALLY for the discussion of Moby, then that is what it should focus on. Too often I have seen debates on religion/philosophy turn into endless rebuttals that go back and forth (not to mention the flame wars and lack of respect that often goes with it). Besides, the conversation often narrows down to two or three people who insist on being right or proving a point that the other party will never see. Yet this all happens as hundreds of people stand by saying "I'm bored with this already and when can we get back to talking about something... anything... that relates to Moby." I don't think the price is worth it and I am not up to the task of maintaining a list like that because my interest is just not there. Simply put - keep it related to Moby and I'm happy. Even if the thread goes off track I won't mind too much because I know where it started and going off course is sometimes easy. Hopefully, everyone will keep in mind what this list is about and move the conversation, if needed, to a personal forum. I don't think this is much to ask. Many times it feels like a balancing act because I don't want to be an "iron hand" and yet I don't want other lists members to suffer through a slow resolve. I dearly hope that this makes sense and is understandable to everyone. To me, there is a definite distinction about what is appropriate when it comes to these topics. Not everyone agrees with me but I am trying to do the best I can. Sincerely, Damian owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tooey" Subject: (mobility) Todd "the god" Terry (non-moby) Date: 22 Feb 1998 05:48:50 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BD3F55.8D1B7980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just a note that another DJ made good (like our hero Moby) is coming to = my club tomorow night (Sunday). Like Moby, he went from practically INVENTING a music genre, house, and = went into making his own records, then moved on to producing and = remixing and so on and so on. So as to keep the list clear of non moby-ish material, private e-mail me = at tooey@texas.net and I'll tell how the show went. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BD3F55.8D1B7980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
just a note that another DJ made = good (like our=20 hero Moby) is coming to my club tomorow night (Sunday).
Like Moby, he went from practically = INVENTING a=20 music genre, house, and went into making his own records, then moved on = to=20 producing and remixing and so on and so on.
 
So as to keep the list clear of non = moby-ish=20 material, private e-mail me at tooey@texas.net and I'll tell how = the show=20 went.
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I need more....hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno hard techno ... oops...got carried away, it seems all the stuff that commin out these days is jungle or trance, i want techno! dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) moby Date: 22 Feb 1998 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) i just listened to a clip of "unloved Symphony" among others on my BRAND SPANKIN NEW REAL AUDIO PLAYER!!! (well, I've only been online for a few months...) god that song is amazing!!! can't wait to hear the whole thing. Ranks up there with every goldie song i ever heard and "This Is Los Angeles" by Lemon d. and the d'n'b remix of "Cover Me" by Bjork. I should start listening to more jungle music, dat shit's awesome. I know this is offtopic, but does anyone know where i can hear realaudio clips of Aphex's S.A.W. 85-92 vol. 1? I found clips from vol. 2, and theyre nice ambient tunes, but i think i heard a clip or 2 from vol. 1 on my local noncommercial radio station WPKN, and it's awesome. I know where to find the album cheap (well, $22), but I just want to hear more. Also, does anyone know where to find the cd for less than $22? I guess you could find it cheaper in Europe, but...whatever...e-mail me offlist. I also listened to clips from End of Everything. It's nice, kind of sounds like Aphex Twin. Definitely a lot more interesting than the clips from S.A.W. 2 i heard. Andy, did you get my $$$ for the comp yet? I KNOW I sent it in...I always get pissed when I lose money... Hmmmmm...anything else to say? Guess i Don't have anything else to say...well, if u want a copy of my tape, send me a blank tape. It's 60 min. long. my adress is (email me for snailmail address... ) "Some folk'll never lose a toe and some folk'll Like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel!!!" (Moby's favorite cartoon. He said so. watch the simpsons tonite, it's on in 10 min. Bye.) == Adios Amigos, ~~PAUL~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: (mobility) you move me Date: 23 Feb 1998 00:06:23 EST Finally I got through February up to the 22nd. I don't get cable TV so I can't watch Mtv...I am not cool like that. I've never heard anything by this Daddy person or most of the other artist we have been arguing about. Plus I hate to listen to the radio. I am out of the loop as far as mainstream stuff is concerned. Some one make me a tape of all these people we hate to talk about and listen to and I will let you know what I think ok? My first question is "hey Scott, why do you love carrots?" Am I the only one who has wondered about this? also to Quote Scott "I had an interview with Moby way back in 1993 in Grand Rapids, MI (where Iwent to college...Calvin)" .....Wow that is so cool! What was he doing in Grand Rapids anyway? Speaking of that fine city...is there anyone on this list from Grand Rapids? Or Michigan for that matter? I joined this list because no one I knew had even heard of or liked Moby, so I was searching for some people who liked his music as much as I did. It's nice to know you are all out there! HI. I too would like to hear Moby do a re-mix of Inspector Gadget. Also....I have been going through this 80's phase as far as music goes....I used to LOVE OMD (not OMC ack!), actually I've got The Pixies in the tape player of my car right now. I would like to hear Moby remix OMD or the Pixies! What do you think? -Eekmaus (hear me roar!) PS please excuse all spelling errors if there are any, I type fast and don't check for misspelled words...hee hee. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 23 Feb 1998 03:36:37 -0700 just wondering.... any reason why the u.s. elektra copy of 'end of everything' contains 'reject' (which figures on little idiot-animal rights 2cd) and the u.k. (?) copy of e of e has another track in it's place? also, any clue where i might be able to find those sought after moby hymn singles? i only know of alt.quiet.version and album version.... i am trying to round out my collection (picked up revolver ep-the rollo & sister bliss is bliss, and come on baby cd5) and trying to find any of the hymn singles. found three into the blue singles, this would make the total number of i the b mixes i found to 15 so far (not incl. album version). with so many mixes of this song, anyone have a fave? mine would be the voodoo child mix (so far).... also, i am peaks freak, wanted to know if anyone knew if the segment in 'go' (laura palmer's theme) was ripped off angelo badalamenti's peice or did moby actually colaborate on this with lynch and badalamenti and just released it himself after/before the fact. never did see moby in the credits for that song.... hey thanks- also-one last bleepin question-does 'thousand' go up to 1000 bpms? guiness book of world questions...really? cheers, danny Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) dark Date: 23 Feb 1998 03:40:08 -0700 WHere did you get DArk from? I have never heard of it THeo off the 'that's when i reach for my revovler' remix cd5 bliss danny Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 23 Feb 1998 05:45:07 -0600 Hi, This may be a weeee bit off subject but I'm very curious. Last year when i first got really into Moby, I remember really digging that track "Insomnia" by Faithless. I looked through it again and noticed that part of faithless is made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss. Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think of the faithless cd. I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions. Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about this. Rob S > .... i am trying > to round out my collection (picked up revolver ep-the rollo & sister bliss > is bliss, and come on baby cd5) and trying to find any of the hymn singles. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) thousand Date: 23 Feb 1998 08:24:23 -0600 (CST) the sond "thousand" actually gets over 1000 beats per minute. i am guessig it works on a powers of 2 scale, because the figure i have seen says the top speed it reaches is 1024 bpm (2^10 = 1024) i don't know how they measured this considering after not too long, the beats just turn into a bass drum roll of sorts... andy gingerbread man "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) discography Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:56:58 -0700 The discography has finally received its long-awaited update. I am sorry for the delay, which was caused by a combination of my procrastination, technical difficulties, and a prodigious amount of new information. It is possible that I misplaced some info and failed to include an update that was submitted, or name someone in the credits. If so, please email me and I'll fix it in the next update, which will not 10 months late. ;) The discography is located at http://www.moby.org/discog.html and may be freely copied, mirrored, or distributed in its entirety as long as no modifications are made. If you have something to add or change, please let me know so they can be incorporated into the next version of the discography. Thanks, Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) moby/trent reznor/ian curtis Date: 23 Feb 1998 04:45:07 -0700 >of course my fave joy division cver is Bush/Tricky's (in a lonely >place" a nice quiet ambient song, enhanced by soft buzzing >synths...good to fall asleep to, after all the other electronic noise >on the Deconstructed disk...I love the goldie mix on that cd too, its >better than the original... and don't forget nine inch nail's cover of 'dead souls'. anyone out there thinks trent or moby might be the 'ian curtis' of the 90's? if curtis were unselfish enough to be alive today-he could have been king in terms of all this angst and individual thought, whilst expressing it with innovative and creative sounds. indeed. i could swear i hear curtis in moby's new dawn fades and nin's dead souls. eerie. for all intents and purposes-'means to an end' has to be one of the all-time best compilations out there. check out low's lo-fi rendition of 'transmission'. yikes Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) discography Date: 23 Feb 1998 14:56:58 -0700 The discography has finally received its long-awaited update. I am sorry for the delay, which was caused by a combination of my procrastination, technical difficulties, and a prodigious amount of new information. It is possible that I misplaced some info and failed to include an update that was submitted, or name someone in the credits. If so, please email me and I'll fix it in the next update, which will not 10 months late. ;) The discography is located at http://www.moby.org/discog.html and may be freely copied, mirrored, or distributed in its entirety as long as no modifications are made. If you have something to add or change, please let me know so they can be incorporated into the next version of the discography. Thanks, Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: (mobility) Inspector Gadget remix...Moby got beat to it. :) Date: 23 Feb 1998 21:20:34 -0600 (CST) Hello. For all of you who have recently been talking about Moby doing a remix of the Inspector Gadget theme, I'm going to speak up and say that my musical counterpart Brad Comer and I (collectively known as SuRReN) have been working out the logistics for such a remix since November. :P Anyhow, we plan to use quite a bit of 303, and opt for an older-school electronically-produced beat (most of the recent TV/movie theme remixes use sampled breaks). Brad is probably going to play trumpet for the original-sounding parts. It's going to be a refreshing, slightly danceable take on the theme, but will remain true to the original. Just felt like bringing it to people's attention. :) *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 23 Feb 1998 08:30:45 -0700 Dan Legare wrote: > any reason why the u.s. elektra copy of 'end of everything' contains > 'reject' (which figures on little idiot-animal rights 2cd) and the u.k. (?) > copy of e of e has another track in it's place? I suppose because "Reject" was not yet released in the states, and Moby wanted to include it. The US version of _The End of Everything_ is his favorite record, I believe. > also, i am peaks freak, wanted to know if anyone knew if the segment in > 'go' (laura palmer's theme) was ripped off angelo badalamenti's peice or > did moby actually colaborate on this with lynch and badalamenti and just > released it himself after/before the fact. never did see moby in the > credits for that song.... Moby used the Twin Peaks music 'after the fact'. "Go" was never used in Twin Peaks. I think that Badalamenti was actually pretty happy that his music became a worldwide dance hit. > also-one last bleepin question-does 'thousand' go up to 1000 bpms? guiness > book of world questions...really? Yes, it reportedly peaks at a bit over 1000 bpm. I think it was in the Guinness Book of World Records, but I don't remember for sure. I've also heard claims that some other people have gone to like 4000 bpm. Seems pretty silly to me... Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 23 Feb 1998 09:43:31 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Rob Skipworth wrote: > made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss. Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier > remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think > of the faithless cd. I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions. > Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about > this. i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a friend started sending me records from england. i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out! i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called "ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about? they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone." anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down (only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself. [xaq] "who needs 8 boobs when you can have 24?" -that dog puppet on conan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 23 Feb 1998 09:43:31 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Rob Skipworth wrote: > made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss. Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier > remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think > of the faithless cd. I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions. > Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about > this. i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a friend started sending me records from england. i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out! i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called "ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about? they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone." anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down (only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself. [xaq] "who needs 8 boobs when you can have 24?" -that dog puppet on conan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 24 Feb 1998 13:10:22 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Daniel Cerman wrote: > Yes, it reportedly peaks at a bit over 1000 bpm. I think it was in > the Guinness Book of World Records, but I don't remember for sure. > I've also heard claims that some other people have gone to like 4000 > bpm. Seems pretty silly to me... i gabber guy named johnny violent (ultra violence) has a song that goes up to 20 million bpms. i use it to open my show every tuesday night. i dunno if it actually goes that high. i usually lose count around 5 million.... [xaq] he's got a bucket full of crotch flavored popcorn. crow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 24 Feb 1998 13:32:40 -0700 theShackofXaq wrote: > i gabber guy named johnny violent (ultra violence) has a song that goes > up to 20 million bpms. i use it to open my show every tuesday night. > i dunno if it actually goes that high. i usually lose count around 5 > million.... Hmmm, 20 million bpm is 1 million beats every 3 seconds, which is over 333,333 beats per second. The sampling rate of a CD is 44.1kHz, so there about 7.5 beats per unit of digital information on CD. At that supposed speed, how can it be considered a 'beat'? My guess would be that it sounds like a drone, which might be considered 0 bpm ambient. :) > he's got a bucket full of crotch flavored popcorn. I bet! obMoby: Does anybody happen to have the Drug Fits The Face 12" that includes the track "Mad Love"? I would really like a copy (or an original ;) and would be willing to trade for it. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JadenX@aol.com Subject: (mobility) Update Date: 24 Feb 1998 15:57:52 EST First, as of right now the only people that can receive MP3 files on my mailing list are those on AOL. I am going to figure out why others are not receiving them. Second, Moby is playing a concert called UNIVERSE 98 on Sunday 24th May, in Knebworth. Headlining will be Beck. Others are :Spiritualized,Bentley Rhythm Ace, Lo-fidelity All Stars. This sucks, my two fav's (Moby and Beck) are going to be at one concert and I can't go. Third and finally, I went to St. Charles this weekend and went to a mall called Cornerstone or something like that. I went to a record shop there and they had a moby poster from ILTS on the wall. A promo poster. I asked the guy if i could have it, he said let me check if i have more. He comes back and says, i don't more but i have these, and handed me a Animal rights poster (the one with moby's up close face) and a pin-up of ILTS. He said, i don't even think anyone here knows who he is. I just said thank you and left. -Carmen B. p.s. Mp3 files will go out today as well as Thurs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Skipworth Subject: Re: (mobility) Update Date: 24 Feb 1998 15:10:03 -0600 will you please post these files on a site so people who have a real internet connection instead of AOHell can listen to them? JadenX@aol.com wrote: > First, as of right now the only people that can receive MP3 files on my > mailing list are those on AOL. I am going to figure out why others are not > receiving them. > > Second, Moby is playing a concert called UNIVERSE 98 on Sunday 24th May, in > Knebworth. Headlining will be Beck. Others are :Spiritualized,Bentley Rhythm > Ace, Lo-fidelity All Stars. This sucks, my two fav's (Moby and Beck) are > going to be at one concert and I can't go. > > Third and finally, I went to St. Charles this weekend and went to a mall > called Cornerstone or something like that. I went to a record shop there and > they had a moby poster from ILTS on the wall. A promo poster. I asked the guy > if i could have it, he said let me check if i have more. He comes back and > says, i don't more but i have these, and handed me a Animal rights poster (the > one with moby's up close face) and a pin-up of ILTS. He said, i don't even > think anyone here knows who he is. I just said thank you and left. > > -Carmen B. > p.s. Mp3 files will go out today as well as Thurs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) useless go info, stufff Date: 24 Feb 1998 14:05:50 -0800 (PST) Hey dudes. as you might have heard, i am listening to my entire cd/tape collection in abc order. I was recently listening to my moby music (all 2 cds and 1 tape) and while I was listening to the complete go remixes cd from the rare cd, i thought for no good reason that i would count every time the "GO!!" sample was used. (please don't ask why I did this, I have no fucking clue.) Anyway, I counted 340 go's, including kind-of distorted or hard to find go's that have strategicly been placed between loud beats or "Yeah"s etc. I didn't include echoing go's, unless they were loud enough or something. The mix with the least go's is the voodoo child mix, which doesn't use the sample. The mix with the most is the Amphetamix (now why would Moby, the extreme anti-druggie we all know him to be, title a mix Amphetamix? had to ask...) it has 106 go's. It's like a go a second for a few seconds. the average go's per track is about 24, which is like the first mix on the cd (4got the name) plus a go or so. Note:this is only for the versions in the go cd that comes w/rare, which excerpts some mixes (like the accept-few-substitutes ORIGINAL VERSION perhaps?), and I'm not the best counter so it's probably wrong. But whatever. Ya know for some reason, I have a feeling someone has already did this... Anyway, is thousand really in the guiness book? maybe if they have a website it would say somewhere...it's not in my edition of the gbowr, which is like 94 or something. I guess i'll hafta go to the library and check it out... some sven vath news i found out in the dance column in the feb. 7th billboard: "Also plotting a return to the dance-floor is German technomeister Sve Vath(bold). He'll end a five-year break from recording with "Fusion," a stunning collection due at the end of March on Virgin in the U.K. and Europe. Vath accurately describes the trance-leaning project, on which he's collaborated with Ralf Hildeneutel(bold), as far less conceptual and intentionally accessible to mainstream punters. "We tried to go in a different direction", he says. "It's dedicated much more to the club scene, more beats and rhythms--[it's] showing the range of things that I'm into."" Other news in the billboard mag:the Chembros (my other faves) are ressurecting their record labal Freestyle Dust Records. Also, it says about the new single by "The Paul Simpson Connection." kind of interesting ther'es a dj who has the same name as me out there. I heard a new Madonna song yesterday. Not "Frozen," but the title track, "Ray of Light." Very housy, kind of like the new janet jackson only a lot more interesting. a slight alternatve-rock vibe, a few guitars. But the voice does not sound like Madonna. If the dj did not say it was her, i wouldn't have known. wow. The radio station i heard that on was this new station called Beat Radio. The format:music with a beat. All club music!!! phat. It's a whole network of stations. The one I get is from New York, at 1660 AM. Where the old Aahs World Radio used to be, before it shut down last month. I guess all the stations that used to be Aahs turned into this station. Unfortunately, they only are on 12 hours a day, 7 days a week. The rest is like a country station or something. Blaahh. Well, now I can hear Dj Supreme on the radio, among other things. Yay. Maybe they have a website, don't know. guess dat's it guys...check the new signature... == "What was that?" "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day." -Adams Family Values >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) shapeshifter Date: 24 Feb 1998 14:08:41 -0800 (PST) oh yeah, my address is Paul Simpson 12 Dadio Road Hamden, CT 06517 if you wanna send me a blank tape to get a copy of my tape. Tentative title is Dj Shapeshifter/V1:The Endless, Relentless Saga Begins not bad, eh? whatever. I already got loads of ideas for V2. I should start recording soon. Well, bye == "What was that?" "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day." -Adams Family Values >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) Update Date: 24 Feb 1998 17:29:10 -0500 (EST) i just have one question--where is knebworth? where do you live? i would like to know where this moby show is! i also got one of those promo posters from a guy who said no one else would want it. :( so, that is bad and good i guess. i out. cookypuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) shapeshifter Date: 24 Feb 1998 17:31:08 -0500 (EST) i am sorry i must have missed this, but what exactly is on yr. tape, Paul? you can mail me back personally. cookypuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Johnson Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 24 Feb 1998 17:24:20 -0600 theShackofXaq wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Rob Skipworth wrote: > > made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss. Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier > > remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think > > of the faithless cd. I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions. > > Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about > > this. > > i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a > friend started sending me records from england. > i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out! > i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i > have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called > "ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about? > they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone." > anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down > (only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself. > > [xaq] > "who needs 8 boobs when you can have 24?" > -that dog puppet on conan ******************************************************************************** hey i'm kinda new to the list, but i have the Faithless "Insomnia" mix CD..was put out by arista records in '97. It has six different mixes of Insomnia..pretty cool..they played the song at a local club here a few weeks ago..could do without the marijuana lyrics though :o) PJ808 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Turpin Subject: Re: (mobility) Inspector Gadget remix...Moby got beat to it. :) Date: 24 Feb 1998 16:56:12 -0600 >For all of you who have recently been talking about Moby doing a remix of >the Inspector Gadget theme, I'm going to speak up and say that my musical >counterpart Brad Comer and I (collectively known as SuRReN) have been >working out the logistics for such a remix since November. :P Anyhow, we >plan to use quite a bit of 303, and opt for an older-school >electronically-produced beat (most of the recent TV/movie theme remixes use >sampled breaks). Brad is probably going to play trumpet for the >original-sounding parts. It's going to be a refreshing, slightly danceable >take on the theme, but will remain true to the original. > >Just felt like bringing it to people's attention. :) Didn't Doug E. Fresh use a little bit of this track too? Off-topically, -- C The C.O.D. John Turpin | O D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: L Potter Subject: Re: (mobility) end of everything is wrong Date: 24 Feb 1998 19:45:35 -0500 Getting a little off topic yet again... I have the Reverence CD by Faithless and was only halfway impressed by it... "Salva Mea" and "Imsonia" are probably the best songs on that CD... going a step further, probably the only songs worth listening to... I was pretty disappointed that Faithless is a product of Rollo and Sister Bliss... however, the Epic Mix of "Salva Mea" is outstanding... gotta like how the recent trend in techno/dance music is using particular Faithless sound now when they've been using it since 1996... and the Nightmares on Wax mix of Olive's "You're Not Alone" is probably the best I've heard... nice flowing bassline... but I digress... Laters... >> > made up of Rollo and & Sister Bliss. Now, I'm wondering if anyone has thier >> > remix of this moby song in an mp3 file???? and secondly, what do you guys think >> > of the faithless cd. I really like it, but I'm curious of your opinions. >> > Email me personally, as I'm sure most of the list doesn't really care about >> > this. >> >> i absolutely (sp?) LOVE faithless! i got into them last year when a >> friend started sending me records from england. >> i strongly recommend any moby fan to check them out! >> i think "salva mea" has to be the most insane club/house song ever. i >> have a really good remix of "insomnia" also. i have the 2xLP called >> "ir-reverance." is that the cd you're talking about? >> they also did a good mix of olive's "you're not alone." >> anyway, like i said, i think everyone here should hunt their stuff down >> (only in the UK...damn!) and hear for yourself. >hey i'm kinda new to the list, but i have the Faithless "Insomnia" mix >CD..was put out >by arista records in '97. It has six different mixes of >Insomnia..pretty cool..they played the song at a local club here a few >weeks ago..could do without the marijuana lyrics though :o) PJ808 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) Inspector Gadget remix...Moby got beat to it. :) Date: 24 Feb 1998 19:49:45 -0600 (CST) At 04:56 PM 2/24/98 -0600, you wrote: >Didn't Doug E. Fresh use a little bit of this track too? Not a full-out remix, like we're doing. All new parts, no samples from the original. :) Problem is, we need to find out who did the original. Oh well.. >-- > C The C.O.D. John Turpin > | / \ Ra.MsState.Edu> > O D *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JadenX@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Update Date: 24 Feb 1998 21:38:59 EST For everyone's info, Knebworth is in the Northern District in jolly ol' England. Wishing i was eating fish n' chips -Carmen B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Your Name Subject: (mobility) hi from evolution2000 Date: 24 Feb 1998 20:05:46 +0000 hi thought i'd join in if that's okay with all you moby heads>>>>> one day we'll be the next wave of dead heads who forgot to shower and go to work just to watch the mobe-dude rock his nut yeah right! my name is clay i live in san diego...chula vista actually....you can see tijuana from my windows and it is beautiful at night. i'm 41 and have 2 kids 12 my son clay and my 18 yr-old daughter tomi. they like moby too. but of course dad was a punk before they were a punk so i get a little credit for bringing the bald one's music home first. i'm not a big fan of hanson or marilyn manson. i heard some early mobyprobably around 95 but wasn't really blown away til i heard everything is wrong. i read the manifestoes as i heard the cd for the first time and was basically knocked outta my chair. i have several cds and a few of his 12' singles. i also like orbital, bt, gabriel, bjork, captain sensible, the orb, early renegade soundwave, erasure, chopin, debussy, and bach. i've been making some form of music or another since about 81 ex- men of clay> dogs with masks> pangs> year from yesterday> beatnik machine> and now evolution2000 and moon>mercury>two so.....i guess that's it. hope life is treating you okay. i've had some very strange days this week and well...... this is kinda nice. later. clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) thanks compilation Date: 25 Feb 1998 02:06:40 -0600 (CST) for those of you who didn't order the compilation cd, or those of you who haven't gotten it yet and just can't wait to hear it, i have posted 6 of the 9 tracks on my web page. they are in VERY LOW quality real audio format. http://vms.www.uwplatt.edu/~daviesa/ let me remind everyone that you can no longer order the cd. (just so i don't get a whole bunch of requests!) andy gingerbread man "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) compailtion cd Date: 25 Feb 1998 02:42:43 -0600 (CST) now i know some of you haven't gotten you cds yet (they are coming soon! i promise!) but i thought i would give some cd demographics for fun! (sorry if this wastes anyone's time...) there were 57 total cds made, 1 a master copy and 1 to moby himself! 14 cds were sent to somewhere in europe. the midwest received the most cds with 17 (yea midwest!) the northeast got 10 the deep south & southeast states together got 6 and the west & southwest states together got 9 17.9% cds were ordered by females 80.4% cds were ordered by males 1.7% cds were ordered by gender neutral 2 cds did get lost without a trace for 60 days. they were sent to london and were returned with "insufficient address" stamped on it. i resent to the same address and they got there in 5 days! 10 cds were destroyed because of either a bad cd, or a hardware error. i recieved 45 individual pieces of mail because of this. included with the mail were stickers, pictures, stationary, calligraphy, cool-looking checks, neato handwriting, notes, encouragement, and (oh yeah!) cash! i guess that is all i can think of now. if there is anything else you want to know, just ask. thanks again to everyone for their great support and patience! (especially the patience--and especially for those who are still waiting! SORRY!) andy "run, run, as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: (mobility) pixies Date: 25 Feb 1998 09:34:56 -0600 He should cover "gouge away". Do you think moby and frank black would have much to talk about? Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Forsythe Subject: (mobility) ska Date: 25 Feb 1998 10:16:06 -0600 Moby doing a ska cover? Perhaps Less Than Jake or Bosstones? Keith Forsythe keith@net66.com kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: (mobility) thanks remixes Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:15:13 +0000 Is there anyone in the Dallas area that could make me a tape of the "Thanks Remixes"? I listened to them last night in Real Audio and I loved it. It's great to hear new versions. Anyway, I'd really love a copy if someone could help me RT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eekmaus@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) pixies Date: 25 Feb 1998 14:15:31 EST Moby and Frank would make some kick-ass Punk rock togeather dont ya think? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EvilNinja2 Subject: Re: (mobility) ska Date: 25 Feb 1998 15:08:40 EST how about a real ska cover like Madness' "One Step Beyond"! That, my friends, would be truely awesome. dj tripp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Paul Yates and Moby at Pork Guys Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:17:41 +0200 (EET) I heard some time ago that Moby and paul yates had done new Pork Guys album from Paul Yates. is it released already? |********************************| | Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) | | www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | | -Coffee is poison (-Moby) | |********************************| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) some outtakes Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:29:57 +0200 (EET) SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF [1998] CS A _:__ Tallest Building in the World _:__ Why You Hurt Me So? _:__ Novio [different version with drums] _:__ Revolver (slow version) _:__ Revolver (synth version) _:__ Running Black Woman _:__ Come On Baby _:__ Oil 2 _:__ Lost Again [remix of song by Yello] _:__ Until It Sleeps [remix of song by Metallica] _:__ The Bottom of the Pool B _:__ Everytime You Touch Me [acoustic version] _:__ Lift You _:__ Weird Seduction _:__ My Love Will Never Die _:__ Simple _:__ So Honest _:__ Schaumgummi [vocals: Paul Yates] _:__ Inside _:__ Bond Theme _:__ Double Tap pieces anyone have it? i would like to have copy of it. i could send cassette and some money or trade some other tapes (i own 2 moby live tapes minneapolis & stockholm live) please mail if you have this |********************************| | Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) | | www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | | -Coffee is poison (-Moby) | |********************************| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) some outtakes Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:40:26 -0700 Samu Heinonen wrote: > SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF [1998] ... > anyone have it? i would like to have copy of it. i could send cassette > and some money or trade some other tapes (i own 2 moby live tapes > minneapolis & stockholm live) I have it, and can trade you a copy for Stockholm live. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) some outtakes Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:46:26 +0200 (EET) On Wednesday, February 25, 1998 13:40:26 you wrote: > >Samu Heinonen wrote: >> SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF [1998] >.... >> anyone have it? i would like to have copy of it. i could send cassette >> and some money or trade some other tapes (i own 2 moby live tapes >> minneapolis & stockholm live) > >I have it, and can trade you a copy for Stockholm live. > >Dan > > Ok. That's good idea. It also includes some moby remixes that tape, i mean. It's recorded from radio, Swedish radio broadcast it couple of years ago, i got it from friend of mine. What's your address where i could send that tape? My address is Samu Heinonen Huuhkajatie 7 01450 Vantaa Finland Europe Thanx a lot! |********************************| | Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) | | www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | | -Coffee is poison (-Moby) | |********************************| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) ska Date: 25 Feb 1998 16:27:57 EST MOBY seemed very interested in the Bosstones at Q101's Jamboree a while back. he encouraged everyone there to definately see them... ironically, the bosstones began playing during moby's set (as i remember)...there wasnt much left to see after moby finished and everyone cleared out of that area... ~L~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Furball Subject: Re: (mobility) ska Date: 25 Feb 1998 15:50:53 -0600 (CST) At 04:27 PM 2/25/98 EST, you wrote: >MOBY seemed very interested in the Bosstones at Q101's Jamboree a while back. >he encouraged everyone there to definately see them... Heh. The funny thing about the Q101 Jamboree was the way they promoted such blatantly alterna-rock acts such as Korn and the Bosstones so heavily that they pretty much eschewed Moby promotion. Most of the people I know who went didn't even know he played at it. :P >~L~ *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* | I'm on an ocean that has a brain and makes us dream... | | I'm on a mission to wipe imagination clean... | | -Failure, "Solaris" | | DJFurball on IRC Kevin in reality | | http://www.pla-net.net/~furball | *-----------------------=====================--------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Tatalovich Subject: Re: (mobility) compailtion cd Date: 25 Feb 1998 17:07:54 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu wrote: > now i know some of you haven't gotten you cds yet (they are coming soon! i > promise!) but i thought i would give some cd demographics for fun! (sorry if > this wastes anyone's time...) Sorry, I just joined this list again (I doubt anyone remembers me from the last time I was on the list, about a year ago), but what exactly was this CD? I'm just curious, that's all... Also, any news on any tour dates? If not, what's Moby up to nowadays? Glad to be back, Bill Tatalovich wt3@cec.wustl.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) ska Date: 25 Feb 1998 17:28:11 -0700 hmm.. less than jake, huh? it would be interesting. i know less than jake (use to live in their home town- gainesville, fl)... that would be something i'd like to see! Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ ---------- > From: Keith Forsythe > To: mobility@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (mobility) ska > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 9:16 AM > > Moby doing a ska cover? Perhaps Less Than Jake or Bosstones? > Keith Forsythe > keith@net66.com > kbforsyt@uiuc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) thousand Date: 25 Feb 1998 19:37:24 -0500 At 08:24 AM 2/23/98 -0600, you wrote: >the sond "thousand" actually gets over 1000 beats per minute. i am guessig it >works on a powers of 2 scale, because the figure i have seen says the top speed >it reaches is 1024 bpm (2^10 = 1024) i don't know how they measured this >considering after not too long, the beats just turn into a bass drum roll of >sorts... i'm assuming moby measured it himself really. just put the normal 4/4 kick drum on as like a 16th or 32nd note in increments of 4...then ran the tempo up as high as his sequencer would go. no big deal really. lots of artists have topped the 1024 bpm mark. love, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: (mobility) To: MOBILITY@LISTS.XMISSION.COM Date: 25 Feb 1998 19:13:11 -0600 (CST) bad news. i lost all the files for the web page with the thanks cd songs. i will try to get them back up soon. andy gingerbread man ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theShackofXaq Subject: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer Date: 25 Feb 1998 22:15:59 -0600 (CST) hey there mobites. as you may or may not know, i produce my own music. i'm currnetly working with ryu on getting my first cd done. it'll contain about 10 songs. i write a wide varity of music, but mainly stay in the happy melodic house relm. (sound like anyone you know?) here's the deal: i'm offering to send you a free TAPE of the yet to be finnished cd. well, i guess you have to send me the tape, but it'll still be free music! all you have to do is be one of the first 10 (ten) people to respond to this email. then, send me a 90min tape (if you want it all) and i'll get it right back to you. what i hope to acomplish: when you get the tape, feel free to spill your guts! tell me what you think. i know this is a moby list, so i guess you'll have to keep your comments private, but i certainly won't stop you from doing otherwise. *hint hint* i want to get some input from people other than my good friends. not that i don't consider you all my friends, but you get the picture. once i get the cd done, i'll let ya'll know. unfortunatly, i MUST charge for the cd, but i promise to keep it as low as possible. so respond PRIVATELY to this mail, i'll give you my address, send your tape, wait, get it back, and enjoy! thanks for your time, [xaq] "i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. but i really enjoy thinking." Masafumi Sanai photographer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Your Name Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer Date: 24 Feb 1998 20:37:04 +0000 responding fast clay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sehutchison@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) ska Date: 26 Feb 1998 01:08:08 -0500 (EST) i just saw less than jake a week or so ago. i think they would be a good cover. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Lee Subject: (mobility) Let's Go Free Date: 25 Feb 1998 23:21:35 -0800 I have a question, and please answer honestly. Does anyone actually listen to "Let's Go Free"? I mean, it's cool to listen to the first couple of times, but does anyone actually pop on the CD with the intention of listening to "Let's Go Free"? I LOVE Moby, but I have to say that "Let's" is probably his weakest track. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: Re: (mobility) Let's Go Free Date: 26 Feb 1998 01:34:22 +0000 Daniel Lee wrote: > > I have a question, and please answer honestly. > > Does anyone actually listen to "Let's Go Free"? I mean, it's cool to > listen to the first couple of times, but does anyone actually pop on the > CD with the intention of listening to "Let's Go Free"? > > I LOVE Moby, but I have to say that "Let's" is probably his weakest > track. > > Dan Well have you ever heard "No Buttons To Push"? It's short and sweet but I love it. RT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: L Potter Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer Date: 26 Feb 1998 07:45:48 -0500 I'm game... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: U0004147@honmfg.com Subject: (mobility) Thoughts on MOBY Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:20:40 EST The man is truly magikal without a doubt. Although the Evil Ninja Little Idiot Voodoo Child may not be able to change a world which is overrun with evildoers, he quietly goes about setting the paradigm by which all of us would benefit if we would only heed his word. Is Moby "the" demigod of our times? Stay tuned..... -The Metropolitician ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Lawyer" Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:03:39 CST6CDT me too... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Lawyer" Subject: Re: (mobility) Thousand-world record Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:26:19 CST6CDT >Anyway, is thousand really in the guiness book? >maybe if they have a website it would say somewhere...it's not in my >edition of the gbowr,which is like 94 or something. I guess i'll >hafta go to the library and check it out... I haven't really researched it or anything, but if you take a look at Rare: The collected B-sides, the CD case has a description of each of the ten tracks. The description of the tenth track, Thousand, says that it is in the GBoWR as "The fastest song ever recorded". At first I found this rather ambiguous, because the "fastest song" isn't necessarily the song with the most bpm, but whoever wrote the track description was probably just paraphrasing or something. Still it holds that as long as whoever mak es Moby's CD cases is honest and accurate, Moby held the world record. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Let's Go Free Date: 26 Feb 1998 11:38:56 -0800 >Does anyone actually listen to "Let's Go Free"? I mean, it's cool to >listen to the first couple of times, but does anyone actually pop on the >CD with the intention of listening to "Let's Go Free"? I love the live version-I listen to that quite often, but the album track is definitely a skip-over.... Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric C Petersen" Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products "lull" offer Date: 26 Feb 1998 11:56:14 -0500 count me in. peterhaus -----Original Message----- >hey there mobites. >as you may or may not know, i produce my own music. i'm currnetly working >with ryu on getting my first cd done. it'll contain about 10 songs. >i write a wide varity of music, but mainly stay in the happy melodic >house relm. (sound like anyone you know?) >here's the deal: >i'm offering to send you a free TAPE of the yet to be finnished cd. well, >i guess you have to send me the tape, but it'll still be free music! all >you have to do is be one of the first 10 (ten) people to respond to this >email. then, send me a 90min tape (if you want it all) and i'll get it >right back to you. >what i hope to acomplish: >when you get the tape, feel free to spill your guts! tell me what you >think. i know this is a moby list, so i guess you'll have to keep your >comments private, but i certainly won't stop you from doing otherwise. >*hint hint* i want to get some input from people other than my good >friends. not that i don't consider you all my friends, but you get the >picture. >once i get the cd done, i'll let ya'll know. unfortunatly, i MUST charge >for the cd, but i promise to keep it as low as possible. >so respond PRIVATELY to this mail, i'll give you my address, send your >tape, wait, get it back, and enjoy! >thanks for your time, >[xaq] >"i think a lot, but it never helps me, so i stop. > but i really enjoy thinking." > Masafumi Sanai > photographer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (mobility) Let's Go Free Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:11:02 -0800 On Thursday, February 26, 1998 11:39 AM, Rekkit [SMTP:rekkit@spectranet.ca] wrote: > I love the live version-I listen to that quite often, but the album track is > definitely a skip-over.... I've never heard the live version (what does it sound like??) but I'd never skip over it while listening to EIW. The flow into Everytime You Touch Me makes me feel like Let's Go Free is just like an intro to it... Shaun ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KCMobyFan Subject: (mobility) Going Free and B-Sidse vs Remixes Date: 26 Feb 1998 15:46:20 EST I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it makes a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else agree with this? Also can I ask whether people prefer to hear remixes or B-sides on Moby's singles? Personally I think some of his best work comes not as the A-sides he releases but the other tracks like "The Rain Falls And The Sky Shudder", "The Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun", "Unloved Symphony" and the brilliant "New Dawn Fades" was originally a B-Side to "Feeling So Real". But mixes have their value too, like the Josh Wink remix of "Bring Back My Happiness" and the CJ Bolland remix of "James bond Theme", also some of Moby's own stuff like "Everytime... Pure Joy Mix", "Go Low Spirit Mix" and "Into The Blue Summer Wind Mix". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: Re: (mobility) Going Free and B-Sidse vs Remixes Date: 26 Feb 1998 22:54:03 +0100 On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 03:46:20PM -0500, KCMobyFan wrote: > I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it makes > a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else agree with > this? Yes, but I think that you get used to the order of tracks on a CD, and after one finishes, your memory reminds you the next one.. Jonathan. -- 512/781AF549 1997/11/26 Jonathan Ruano (low-sec) Key fingerprint = 7A 87 8E 82 50 82 1D 19 CD BE 3E 20 FA 80 6F 8F For more bits, browse http://www.encomix.es/users/jonah/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) Going Free and B-Sidse vs Remixes Date: 26 Feb 1998 14:59:39 -0700 KCMobyFan wrote: > I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it > makes a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else > agree with this? Yes. Though the album version of "Let's Go Free" is little more than an interlude, I don't consider it a skip track. > Also can I ask whether people prefer to hear remixes or B-sides on Moby's > singles? Definitely! I'm a remix & B-side junkie. ;) I enjoy hearing strange and cool, long remixes. Moby is a superb remixer, and his creativity really shines in non-"A-side" tracks. Though sometimes the "A-sides" and album tracks are done perfectly, I usually prefer the less commercial remixes and B-sides. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Date: 26 Feb 1998 14:00:12 -0800 (PST) stuff... First of all, according to Rolling Stone mag, Moby is definitely NOT producing the new Guns N Roses cd. A few producers are, but not him. I remember Scott Litt and I think Don Was or somebody is producing trax, but not Moby. Well, there's an article in the RS with that chick from Titanic on the cover, go to yr local library n check it out... For all u clubheads, info on BeatRadio....in about 10 cities in the U.s. including New York, Detroit (home of techno), L.A., Chicago, Mineapolis, Dallas, and a few more (like Boston or Phoenix or something) BeatRaio is now on the A.M. dial. They play all club music. Techno/house/trance 12 hours a day, 7 days a week!!! It starts 7 PM here (I live in CT, I get the NY station) it starts 6 Pm central, 5pm mountain, 4pm western. Next time I hear their phone #, I'll call them and ask if they play Moby (i'm sure they do, why wouldn't they?) they play a good mix of stuff...mostly new stuff, but an ocassional mid-80's "roots of house" thingy. It's nice. Check it out. This moby desert island thing that the nettwerk records guy (congrats to sarah mclachlan for her grammys...and to the CHEMICAL BROTHERS!!!! THEY WON BEST ROCK INSTRUMENTAL FOR BLOCK ROCKIN BEATS!!!! YAY!!!!!) gave me an idea for my homepage...I'm putting up a desert island recordings list...I'll list mine first, but I''m encouraging y'all to put yours up...naturally I'm including Everything Is Wrong (if I don't have that on a desert island, I'll just jump right in the water). I'm also including stuff like the Chembros' 2 albums, Daft Punk, Beatles' Greatest Hits, Queen's A Nite At The Opera, Led Zep 4, Nirvana's Nevermind, stuff like that. E-mail me offlist for yr votes. Last, I promise I won't plug my tape anymore (unless u want me to...) my address is Paul Simpson 12 Dadio Road Hamden, CT 06517 send me a 60 m. blank tape and I'll send u a copy. It's called V1:The Endless, Relentless Saga Begins and it's by DJ Shapeshifter. It's a mix of techno/ambient/noise/sound collages/pop songs recorded with my kid siblings with stupid words but aren't as near as stupid as Hanson. It's kinda kool, I just listened to it. that's all. (IF you are reading this outside the list on the archives page, you can still order a copy!!! hee hee) 'K Dats all....soy bomb == "What was that?" "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day." -Adams Family Values >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Insanity in a bottle Subject: (mobility) Re: your mail Date: 26 Feb 1998 17:12:34 -0500 (EST) Hey paul, what station is that? i am also in CT... --marjorana On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Paul Simpson wrote: > stuff... > > First of all, according to Rolling Stone mag, Moby is definitely NOT > producing the new Guns N Roses cd. A few producers are, but not him. I > remember Scott Litt and I think Don Was or somebody is producing trax, > but not Moby. Well, there's an article in the RS with that chick from > Titanic on the cover, go to yr local library n check it out... > > For all u clubheads, info on BeatRadio....in about 10 cities in the > U.s. including New York, Detroit (home of techno), L.A., Chicago, > Mineapolis, Dallas, and a few more (like Boston or Phoenix or > something) BeatRaio is now on the A.M. dial. They play all club music. > Techno/house/trance 12 hours a day, 7 days a week!!! It starts 7 PM > here (I live in CT, I get the NY station) it starts 6 Pm central, 5pm > mountain, 4pm western. Next time I hear their phone #, I'll call them > and ask if they play Moby (i'm sure they do, why wouldn't they?) they > play a good mix of stuff...mostly new stuff, but an ocassional > mid-80's "roots of house" thingy. It's nice. Check it out. > > This moby desert island thing that the nettwerk records guy (congrats > to sarah mclachlan for her grammys...and to the CHEMICAL BROTHERS!!!! > THEY WON BEST ROCK INSTRUMENTAL FOR BLOCK ROCKIN BEATS!!!! YAY!!!!!) > gave me an idea for my homepage...I'm putting up a desert island > recordings list...I'll list mine first, but I''m encouraging y'all to > put yours up...naturally I'm including Everything Is Wrong (if I don't > have that on a desert island, I'll just jump right in the water). I'm > also including stuff like the Chembros' 2 albums, Daft Punk, Beatles' > Greatest Hits, Queen's A Nite At The Opera, Led Zep 4, Nirvana's > Nevermind, stuff like that. E-mail me offlist for yr votes. > > Last, I promise I won't plug my tape anymore (unless u want me to...) > my address is > Paul Simpson > 12 Dadio Road > Hamden, CT 06517 > send me a 60 m. blank tape and I'll send u a copy. It's called V1:The > Endless, Relentless Saga Begins and it's by DJ Shapeshifter. It's a > mix of techno/ambient/noise/sound collages/pop songs recorded with my > kid siblings with stupid words but aren't as near as stupid as Hanson. > It's kinda kool, I just listened to it. that's all. (IF you are > reading this outside the list on the archives page, you can still > order a copy!!! hee hee) > > 'K Dats all....soy bomb > > > > > > == > "What was that?" > "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day." > -Adams Family Values > >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility)one liners Date: 26 Feb 1998 19:08:32 -0700 i thought we got rid of these annoying one line responses? it really gets annoying after a while. l do recall this line from the e-mail from the ShackofXaq: so respond PRIVATELY to this mail, i'll give you my address, send your tape, wait, get it back, and enjoy! so, do it PRIVATELY, OK? it gets annoying when most of the messages are one liners... kind of a waste. Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Your Name Subject: Re: (mobility)one liners Date: 27 Feb 1998 18:48:06 +0000 well sorry for having contributed to this glut of wasted one-liners. in my excitement i just hit reply to: and voila a hundred fellow moby fans got my dumb message silly me.......... actually i prefer the one line waste over the 40 line waste as what we do here doesn't seem to require waxing eloquently or really at much length it takes a a few seconds to read a message and blam it's in the trash or filed away neatly with all of man's other bits of garbage i figure when i get tired of such nonsensical little bits of rave and inquiry i'll just quit the group list >>>not a problem most of us it would seem are not so serious about such matters and rather enjoy knowing that there are others who dig the music for whatever reason and on on whatever level. so...... dig it...... cause as long as new people (like me) join this list every day there are bound to be a few boneheads who err in the name of well........ enthusiasm. and you will never ever really fix that brother. clay evolution2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cm(matt)" Subject: (mobility) wtd: some moby stuff Date: 27 Feb 1998 19:57:30 -0800 hey there.... im looking to get my hands on either of these two tapes below... im willing to throw out some cash, or i have a feeling to real remixes cd that i would be willing to trade.... any sort of deal would be nice, since im dying to get these things.... thanks -matt jbormet@teleport.com SOME OUTTAKES AND STUFF [1998] CS A _:__ Tallest Building in the World _:__ Why You Hurt Me So? _:__ Novio [different version with drums] _:__ Revolver (slow version) _:__ Revolver (synth version) _:__ Running Black Woman _:__ Come On Baby _:__ Oil 2 _:__ Lost Again [remix of song by Yello] _:__ Until It Sleeps [remix of song by Metallica] _:__ The Bottom of the Pool B _:__ Everytime You Touch Me [acoustic version] _:__ Lift You _:__ Weird Seduction _:__ My Love Will Never Die _:__ Simple _:__ So Honest _:__ Schaumgummi [vocals: Paul Yates] _:__ Inside _:__ Bond Theme _:__ Double Tap pieces >LIVE IN MINNEAPOLIS [5 Jun 1995] >CS bootleg > > NOTE: This rare live recording has special live versions of the > songs listed below, along with other Moby antics. > > 3:23 Hymn > 1:22 Ah Ah > 3:33 Bring Back My Happiness (Extended Mix) > 4:35 Move (Disco Threat) > 3:49 I Need You [unreleased] > 4:14 All That I Need Is To Be Loved > 4:38 Let's Go Free > 4:12 Go > 5:55 Next Is The E > 2:37 Drop A Beat (The New Version) > 1:22 Everytime You Touch Me [unreleased slow dance version] > 3:29 Everytime You Touch Me [unreleased 'pure joy' mix] > 5:01 Feeling So Real > 4:56 New Dawn Fades [keyboard played by audience member 'Chris'] > 3:36 What Love > _:__ [Moby 'writes a new song', showcases his drummers' talents] > 4:50 Thousand ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DropABeat Subject: Re: (mobility) xero products Date: 26 Feb 1998 22:57:32 EST Xaq -- if i made it in time, i'd love a copy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phathead@flash.net Subject: (mobility) Clay's Point Date: 26 Feb 1998 13:27:12 -0600 I must say Clay does make a pretty damn good point. I understand there are rules here but I think even Moby would think people are taking things just a little too serious. Everyone get over it. Just be thankful we have Moby's music and the opportunity to discuss it in this matter RT phathead@flash.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Legare Subject: (mobility) let's go touch me Date: 27 Feb 1998 07:55:39 -0700 i couldnt agree with you more. the beauty of eiw is the flow of the tracks, the fact that 'let's go free' in all in grungy-glory is put right before eytytm is obviously intentional. has anyone ever done an intro-scan of 'eiw' for people who have never heard of moby. i've done it and people freak out. and if i am not mistaken, 'let's go free' (live) was exclusive to that 'in defense of animal rights vol. 2 (?)' cd? > >I listen to "Let's Go Free" on "Everything Is Wrong" because I think it makes >a really good introduction to "Everytime You Touch Me". Anyone else agree with >this? > Dan Legare Nettwerk Mail Order Department danny@nettwerk.com Nettwerk Productions-Box 330 1755 Robson St. Vancouver, BC V6G 2B5 PH-604.654.2929 FX-604.654.1993 Email-info@nettwerk.com http://www.nettwerk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: Re: (mobility) compailtion cd Date: 27 Feb 1998 10:56:07 -0500 >now i know some of you haven't gotten you cds yet (they are coming soon! i >promise!) So I get this email Wednesday..and listen to the .ra samples Andy put on his site...After this I REALLY can't wait to get my cd..And sure enough..right before I leave for work that afternoon..I check my mail..there it is...woo hoo!!! :) >i guess that is all i can think of now. if there is anything else you want to >know, just ask. Well..I was wondering...If and when I become a dj for the local college station(already got a name...DjSix(six being a VERY important # in my life)..Can I play this for the public w/o fearing any repercussions? Anyways..about the comp...OOOOOOOH...Good stuff..all of you should stand up and take a bow..You all did a very good job..A few things: Andy: It's funny..I was listening to the cd w/o reading the back..EYTM comes on..that VERY interesting beat starts..and I ask myself.."Where'd Andy get that beat?" Then I read the back :). It's a great beat Andy..Aren't accidents great? :) Darryl: Where'd you get the Swaggart sample? It's not the first time I've heard it(MBM used it in "It's The Music")..and I think it fits very well...Any particular reason why you used it? If there's ever another remix competition..I think you all have a legitimate chance on winning...a BIG thanks to Andy(and everyone else) for putting this together..You did a great job...I'm sure Moby loves it :). Ryan np: Fugazi: "In On The Kill Taker" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon ICQ#: 1607223 "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "...Have you heard of East Timor?" -Consolidated =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kristof JOOSEN" Subject: (mobility) Animal Rights lyrics Date: 28 Feb 1998 01:07:45 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01BD43E5.47664B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I'm still looking for the lyrics of the "Animal rights" album. Can someone email them, or email an URL, or snail mail them ? Thanks a lot... I will always love you !!!! ;-) Kristof ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01BD43E5.47664B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I'm still looking for the lyrics of the = "Animal=20 rights" album.
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------=_NextPart_000_0083_01BD43E5.47664B60-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Damian Subject: Re: (mobility) one liners | "reply" setting Date: 27 Feb 1998 17:55:58 -0700 Hello, I have a question for all of the list members. As you know, if you hit "reply" to an email that came from Mobility, it is automatically sent back to the list address. This is a default that can be changed. Do you guys prefer to have the "reply" reflect the senders email address instead? Please respond to my email address only. If there is a strong enough response I'll look into changing the setup. Thank you. damian@xmission.com owner-mobility@lists.xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~damian/mobility.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alexander3@webtv.net (Alvin) Subject: (mobility) What's up? Date: 27 Feb 1998 21:23:46 -0800 Hi! My name is Alvin and I'm the latest to join. I'm 22 yo and live in Southern California. My collection consists of only major CDs released. I'm not a hardcore fan as I see most of you guys are. Jeez! So, this is what I have: Ambient Animal Rights (Limited Edition 2CD) Disk Early Underground Everything Is Wrong Everything Is Wrong (Mixed and Remixed) I Like To Score Moby Move Rare: The Collected B-sides I first heard Moby from "Cool World" in 1992. It was an amazing soundtrack and I had to get it! That CD basically introduced me to the techno world. As much as I like the other artists on the disc, none can compare as to how much Moby affected me. The man is just brilliant!!! The man, the music, the mind: I love everything about him! And the fact that he's queer-friendly is like icing on the cake! Sure I like other artists, but they come and go. MOBY IS FOREVER... Alexander3@webtv.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility)one liners Date: 27 Feb 1998 22:24:50 -0700 i'm not one to judge u about contributing.. i think i have too... and i don't mean to start a fuss about it. i have a shitty computer that sometimes doesn't like retrieving lots of messages.. so these one liners can get kinda annoying to me. they piss me off more when my computer decides it doesn't like me. so, it's not ur fault but my computer's (and i know i'm going to pay for saying that.. it knows what i type...). anyways, sorry to start this... i don't like pissing ppl off. also, there is a way to reply to messages personally. when u hit reply to (or @ least i can.. i use microsoft internet mail), it pops up the whole message, including a link to the person's e-mail address. that's what i use. personally, i like the fact that we read what ppl post, so i don't think we need to change this reply to. the point of this list is to post things, so why change it? that's my opinion anyway... so, i'll end this before i piss more ppl off. i guess i should think sometimes, huh? Blessed Be, Plovious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SpeakNeasy Subject: Re: (mobility) Let's Go Free Date: 28 Feb 1998 10:49:53 EST Yeah I don't actively say to myself, " I need an hour of Let's Go Free" but I have to admit that in my own compllations that I do not include it. It is kind of a skip over. Theo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SpeakNeasy Subject: (mobility) Voodoo Child Date: 28 Feb 1998 11:00:19 EST You know with all of this talk of Everything is Wrong I would just like to point out that the End of Everything has some really great tracks. I am currently listening to Great Lake for about a half hour every day on my commute to work and I use Patient Love just as a warm up to it. Although I love this album, so much that I can barely listen to the whole things at once since my batteries usually go out with Great Lake, I have to admit with DJ Tripp that I would like to have some real Techno. I mean I am really being deprived of it right now because there isn't a lot of good stuff out there for it. It's all jungle or ambient. Even Prodigy got me angry with their turn towards jungle and vocals and away from brilliant basic techno form as was seen in Music of the Jillited Generation. Mack to Moby, I really like Move, The End of Everything's B-sides, expecially Into the Blue's ones, and Next is the E. However, I have been waiting for another really good Techno album from him for quite a while and although this Voodoo Child track is giving me a good time what I really need is the real thing. So if Moby really listening to us out there, hey man, give use the real stuff! The James Bond remixes expecially track #4 and #6 were incredible, can't we get a new album with that kind of stuff on it? Theo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Child Date: 28 Feb 1998 11:59:45 -0500 >I mean I am really being >deprived of it right now because there isn't a lot of good stuff out there for >it. It's all jungle or ambient. Even Prodigy got me angry with their turn >towards jungle and vocals and away from brilliant basic techno form as was >seen in Music of the Jillited Generation. Mack to Moby, I really like Move, >The End of Everything's B-sides, expecially Into the Blue's ones, and Next is >the E. However, I have been waiting for another really good Techno album from >him for quite a while i'd very much like to hear some stuff from moby like "the blue light of the underwater sun". it is a track that is rarely brought up here, but is one of my top 5 moby tracks ever. it's the perfect blend of everything i see in him. it's got an ambient intro, techno beat and synths, and guitar! a great song. oh, and the prodigy actually were one of the first jungle acts EVER back in '91. their roots are most definitely in jungle whether they admit that today or not. hasta, ryu ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My name is Ryu. I make hard emotional electronic music. To hear some, get cds, and see stuff, go to my homepage at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwz109/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ryu | jwz109@psu.edu | 814-867-0756 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danperry@execpc.com Subject: (mobility) moby spotted on compilation Date: 28 Feb 1998 16:42:56 -0600 (CST) i'm not sure if this is in the discography or not, but i saw this at a store yesterday - maximum electronica vol.1 US CD elektra 62159-2 moby: feeling so real voodoo child: dog heaven (lopez mix) i forgot to look for a date on it, but i'm guessing 1997, as i think 1996 would be too early for the dog heaven remix. seeyuz... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G. Walker" Subject: Re: (mobility) moby spotted on compilation Date: 28 Feb 1998 19:07:35 +0500 The Maximum Electronica cd is from 1997. The Moby stuff is good--i like the start of Feeling so Real better here than on EiW--and the lopez mix is good too. Thats as far as I got on the cd. The Bjork song is Hyperballad from right off of Post, not a re-mix or anything. Personally I think the cd is a waste of money. Aphex Twin & the black dog are on there, but the first half of the cd--before Moby's stuff--didn't do a thing for me and I wished I'd bought the first Sleater-Kinney cd instead! --ginger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john-->" Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Child Date: 28 Feb 1998 18:18:48 PST > i'd very much like to hear some stuff from moby like "the blue light = of the > underwater sun". it is a track that is rarely brought up here, but is = one of > my top 5 moby tracks ever. it's the perfect blend of everything i see = in him. > it's got an ambient intro, techno beat and synths, and guitar! a great= song. > hey there- i just wanted to add my two cents to this- i stumbled across that cd = the other day in a local record store and picked it up. ( i knew the cd = was out there but had never seen it annywhere before then) needless to = say i love that track and totaly agree with your comments on it- it blen= ds all sorts of genres together with perfect precision and harmony. it = blends the soothing, peacefull ambient sound with the faster, more driven= techno beats, as well as incorporates that emotional guitar moby is know= n for. it also has that strong environmental meaning behind it which rea= lly drew me into it. i enjoy the tune alot!- it's excellent- that's my two cents--later- john--:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) moby spotted on compilation Date: 28 Feb 1998 22:11:57 -0700 danperry@execpc.com wrote: > i'm not sure if this is in the discography or not, but i saw this at > a store yesterday - > > maximum electronica vol.1 Yes, it's in the discography. Thanks anyway. > moby: feeling so real > voodoo child: dog heaven (lopez mix) > > i forgot to look for a date on it, but i'm guessing 1997, as i think > 1996 would be too early for the dog heaven remix. Actually, "Dog Heaven (Lopez Mix)" came out at the end of July 1996 on the Trophy5 single. Amazing how time flies... This compilation was released November 11, 1997. If anybody has it, I'm looking for confirmed track times... BTW, I just listened to the US version of _The End Of Everything_, which is Moby's favorite album that he made, and I like it more than ever. It's wonderful. Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "john-->" Subject: (mobility) thanks--> Date: 28 Feb 1998 19:51:23 PST hey there- what's up?- i also got 'thanks' today in the mail after waiting for almo= st a month- and let me tell you- the cd was well worth the wait- as state= d earlier every track rocks- i can't stop dancin. i've listened to the = thing three times in a row and am still going-contributers to this cd did= an excellent job- love the 'move' remix as well as the gingerbread mix = of 'everytime you touch me'- i also really dig the 'god moving over the = face of the water' mix (especially the piano bit at the end-!!) and the = beginning of the 'choose your jesus tc mix'- the cd is supurb- john--:)