From: mobility-owner@xmission.com (mobility Digest) To: mobility-digest@xmission.com Subject: mobility Digest V1 #26 Reply-To: mobility@xmission.com Sender: mobility-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: mobility-owner@xmission.com Precedence: mobility Digest Saturday, April 5 1997 Volume 01 : Number 026 In this issue: Re: (mobility) spoken word Re: (mobility) hardcore? (mobility) Moby article in a magazine. (mobility) AOL CHAT on my page Re: (mobility) hardcore? Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! Re: (mobility) hardcore? Re: (mobility) hardcore? Re: (mobility) hardcore? (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix (mobility) 1979 moby remix mp3 (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news" (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Re: (mobility) hardcore? Re: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix Re: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news" Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! and spelling too. (mobility) A Moby Interview Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! (mobility) woah! Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) spoken word Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) spoken word (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Re: (mobility) album o' the year? RE: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the mobility or mobility-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 22:13:53 -0500 (EST) From: Anuranman Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word i think that moby could pull of a spoken word tour. he may seem really modest and quiet, but on stage, he's like a giant tornado of nrg. i believe that he could harness the nrg of his music into written word and perform it with the same amount of gusto and be successful with it! if nothing else, i'd like to see him write a book of essays or poems. or maybe a novel, if he's into that too. another thought: i really liked the photos on the inside of AR. it would also be cool to see a photography book by moby. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 22:19:42 -0500 (EST) From: Anuranman Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? At 06:48 PM 4/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >what in hades is all this talk about hardcore? in my days as a hardcore >boy, hardcore has lotsa shaved heads, lotsa heavy chugging guitars, and >really gutteral screaming/growling/belching vocals, preaching different >things depending on which band youre talking about. is there ANOTHER >hardcore movement? "hardcore" is a pretty arbitrary word. xaq was originally referring to the hardcore rave scene. this is totally different than the old hardcore punk scene. moby's "thousand" and "ul he fu" would be considered hardcore techno...even though they are a bit old. and to answer xaq's question, the reason i think that the media ignores the hardcore techno scene is becuase there is no financial gain in it. you can't sell 200 bpm speedcore gabba to a junior high kid, but my grandpa can get into the chemical brothers. love, ryu 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 "Noise is the Key, life is full of noise, only death is quiet." "Personally, I don't take any drugs and have never tried any and therefore perhaps have an odd opinion about them; a man must destroy himself before he is destroyed by the system!" -Alec Empire- 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 814-238-3171 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:17:47 -0800 From: Shaun Rader Subject: (mobility) Moby article in a magazine. I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but I'll do it just in case. I saw an article in an issue of AP with Moby in it. I believe it was called Moby vs. Danzig. I just had time to read one line in the dialog between Moby and Danzig. I consisted of Danzig stating that he didn't believe in god... I THINK it was AP magazine.. Shaun ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:10:13 EST From: babylemonade67@juno.com (J J j) Subject: (mobility) AOL CHAT on my page I have the Moby AOL Chat transcript on my page (the address is under my name on the bottom of this message) You can either read it off my page or download it from my page. While you are at it drop me a note about your opinion of my page. There is not a ton of Moby stuff but there is some veggie things that might also be of interest. thanks, James C. BABY LEMONADE: http://members.aol.com/DALI67/babylemonade.html PETA: http://www.envirolink.org/arrs/PETA/ Love all sentient creatures, whether they be animal or man, and always be truthful to yourself and others. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:22:22 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? dude are you on smack or do you just enjoy pulling arguments out of thin air? what on earth are you talking about? at what point have i professed drug use? is it generalizing for someone who was very much at the heart of something to describe what was going on in honest terms? at what point did i advocate self destruction of anyone? what gives you the right to play God and talk down to me? put down the pipe and shut the hell up. Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:24:32 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! afraid i have to object on the grounds of happy stuff being a good thing. im a bit tired of listening to FLA bitch about the machines taking over the world. ive got problems. i like to hear something nostalgic and relieving. but if sad is yer game, have you heard the title track from 5 stars for failure? beautiful stuff. and i dont think jason has a dark bone in his body. him and ronnie are VERY alike. :) Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:27:38 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? generalization? GENERALIZATION? why dont you go ask snap case or orange 9mm what kind of music they play. theyll both answer "hardcore." ask the straight-edge kids at a strongarm show what kind of music theyre there for. theyll answer "hardcore." its not a generalization. its a term applying to a very broad grouping that calls THEMSELVES hardcore. Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:29:24 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? ok lets clarify things so Banzai Boy cant get his jollies by flaming me. some one please, in specific, descriptive terms, tell me about hardcore techno. Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 01:48:47 -0500 From: Matt Himes Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? At 01:29 AM 4/5/97 -0500, you wrote: >ok lets clarify things so Banzai Boy cant get his jollies by flaming me. >some one please, in specific, descriptive terms, tell me about hardcore >techno. > >Sinjin > Easy, easy. Didn't you get the message yet where he apologized? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 02:22:50 -0600 From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix In case you're really bored and feel like hearing moby come through your soundcard or synth you can visit http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm and just visit the My Music Section.. Im not trying to advertise or anything, because I just tonight finished sequencing the God Moving Over The Face Of The Waters - Heat Mix, and i figured maybe someone would be bored :) and also thought i read that you people were having trouble finding that single, so now you can hear it :) just not as well.. Anyways go if you like, there are other moby midis there too, including the original gmotfotw.. this mix is not perfect and is a wittle sloppy but its better than nothing.. Well enough garble from me Happy Daylight Savings Time! Eric - - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 02:26:14 -0500 From: Matt Himes Subject: (mobility) 1979 moby remix mp3 Hey kids, I just found an mp3 file of Moby remix of the Pumkins' 1979 on an ftp server full of mp3's. The quality is miserable (22 khz, 24 kb/s, yuck) but is a copy of it, for those of whose who have never heard and don't know how to get it otherwise. The web address is http://129.174.188.132/ . I could also email it to anyone just wants it (it's only about 300k) or turn on my ftp server if we really want to get complicated. Tell me what you think. Later, Matt Himes aka: _______________ ___________ __________ ___ ___ /_____ _____/| / _____ /| / _______/| / /| / /| |____/ /|_____|/ / /|___/ / / / /|______|/ / /_/__/ / / / / / / /_/__/ / / / /_/____ /_______ / / / / / / __ ___/ / / _______/| |______/ / / / / / / / |\ \__|/ / /|______|/ / / / / / / / / / \\ \ / /_/_____ _____/ / / /__/ / /__/ / \\__\ /__________/| /_______/ / |__|/ |__|/ |__| |__________|/ |_______|/ mrh160@psu.edu trey@psu.edu Trey's Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.ecsel.psu.edu/~mhimes/ Trey's Other Mechwarrior Niche-> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3527 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:59:02 -0500 From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news" SO>SonicNet Sonic Boom: Your weekly dose of what's new at SonicNet SO>and Addicted to Noise! April 4, 1997 (v 1.26) SO>DOWN & DIRTY WITH THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS - You've been hearing all SO>about this electronica stuff. Everyone says it's the next big thing. Now SO>we sit down with the source. Two of the mainmen of this whole new techno SO>thing. They're cool, they're funny, and you can check out samples of their SO>music while you get some insight into what they're about. SO>http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/Features/ I bet EVERYONE is gonna be rushing to that www addy ;> Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:47:04 -0500 From: joeclark@interlog.com (Joe Clark) Subject: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! >Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:07:39 -0500 (EST) >From: Anuranman >Subject: (mobility) ambient > >i like ambient alot. a whole lot. >since it was released before moby could finish it, it has a certain >raw quality to it, and i'm attracted to that quality. not as good >as the end of everything or little idiot, but good none the less. Here we go with the punctuation problem again. ("Again," that is, after suffering through it in a zillion other mailing lists. Worst offender: the Pet Shop Boys list.) Dear listmembers: Remember that song titles and album titles need to be set off from the mass of undifferentiated ASCII text that is an E-mail for us to understand what the eff-you-see-kay you're talking about. Did Anuranman like ambient music a lot, or the album _Ambient_? Exactly what is not as good as the end of everything? (Purgatory? You aren't looking forward to the rapture?) This is not a hairsplitting issue. go ahead and indulge in the self-effacement of lowercase if you must. OR SCREAM, FOR ALL I CARE. But for heaven's sake, use "s to surround song titles (don't use an acronym in the first instance) and _s to surround album titles (ditto). It's just too damn confusing to read otherwise. The complaints from under-20-year-olds and/or AOLers, who never really learned how to read and write, like, proper or whatever, are acknowledged in advance. Even if it annoys you, possessing these skills is important, and they are relevant even on informal music mailing lists. And no, I rarely make typing mistakes mysel.f Joe Clark joeclark@interlog.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:49:15 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) hardcore? yes and his idea of apology doesnt amuse me. now are you going to answer me or do i have to remain ignorant? Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:50:52 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby Midis - Heat Mix wow...phat. :) wish i had a functional soundcard. son youre quite a dedicated soldier and deserve to be commended. Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:55:23 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) More "Techno" in the "news" dont you love how the media is Y.M.'ing electronic music? :) "inside: 10 tips to make that vinyl spinning techno-babe yours! Quiz: Is your Raver boy just using you for your X? Moby tells all! get the inside scoop on his band, his bod, and how he wants you to look!" i think we're all in big, BIG trouble. :) Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:57:31 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! being an english major i reserve the right to type horrendously mif i so choose. :) however in about 4 months when i have to make the jump to music major, i suppose ill have to start typing immaculately to prove i know the language. :) :) :) Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:57:31 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! being an english major i reserve the right to type horrendously mif i so choose. :) however in about 4 months when i have to make the jump to music major, i suppose ill have to start typing immaculately to prove i know the language. :) :) :) Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 10:00:10 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: (mobility) album o' the year? ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of the year so far? Rosencrantz and Sinjinstern are dead. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 07:25:09 -0800 From: keri schaeffer Subject: Re: (mobility) Punctuation, kids! Punctuation! and spelling too. Joe Clark wrote: >Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 17:07:39 -0500 (EST) >From: Anuranman >Subject: (mobility) ambient >Go get them Joe! It appears that alot of people forget the ".You should use a " when the subject,or title is not your own thought. those nasty acronyms also suck.For everyone for whom english is not their first language forget the previous thought. I have a hard time in spanish with those tricky verbs. Just relax and enjoy.keri ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 11:03:58 -0600 From: "Eric M. Goldberg" Subject: (mobility) A Moby Interview I was looking around today and stumbled upon this interview from the retroactive baggage website. I havent even read it because frankly I don't feel like reading right now, but for those of you here it is. Also they had a picture of Moby with I guess his or just someone else's dog. So if you want to see it or read the interview in its original form go to http://www.baggage.co.uk/issue14/moby.html And here is the interview, I know it might seem a bit long but some of you have said that you don't have easy www access so here goes.. =========================================================================== Tony and Dave talk to Moby, who's not that mad or Christian or vegan really. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moby has always been one of the music scene's most interesting and diverse characters, defying definition by veering between happy hardcore, ambient soundscapes and industrial metal with apparent ease; but at this years Reading Festival he still surprised many by delivering a straightforward punk rock set, totally abandoning the sequencer in favour of loud guitars from his new record "Animal Rights." Moby started out in guitar punk and new wave bands before being caught up in the dance scene in the mid-eighties; but is now growing bored with the dance scene just as the mainstream appears to be catching on. Why has he moved back in this direction exclusively? "At first I tried to incorporate the two - punk rock music with the electronic sounds of the sequencer - but I ended up sounding like Billy Idol. Part of the joy of this is not being tied to a computer and improvising, it's emancipating. I guess that at the time I just didn't feel particularly eclectic! With "Everything Is Wrong" I was feeling a little more open and wanted to represent all these different things that I was interested in but lately, the only things I felt interested in are speed metal and classical music." Moby talks with some disenchantment about the contemporary dance scene: "I still like a lot of it - it's nice, but it doesn't make the hairs on the back of my neck stick up." Is that because he thinks there's less good dance music coming out or just because he's been there, done that? "It's probably a combination of the two. There's a marked lack of passion and intensity in electronic dance music - it's more conservative and restrained on an emotional level. Now it's a virtue to see how stylized and restrained you can make a record, as opposed to 1991 when records were big huge booming fiascos. Today's dance music is nice when you're waiting for a table in a restaurant but..." So doesn't that make him want to come back and make that huge, uplifting record for today? "Well, I tried with "Feeling So Real", which was my statement of what I love about dance music, but the people who were interested weren't the dance people. The dance community said it's just cheesy happy hardcore - well, better emotional hardcore than cool, 'intelligent' techno." Does this move away from technology partly reflect Moby's dislike for the effects of modern lifestyles? "Everything we do in the late twentieth century - in the context of the end of western civilisation, is going to be hypocritical. It's hard to be a purist; the only way to be a purist environmentalist is to kill yourself, really. At one level I love being alive in the modern world, as it's interesting and fascinating; I don't have a problem so much with technology as its applications. There are very few things which are fundamentally evil." Despite this, Moby's song titles ("Everything is Wrong"/"The End of Everything" etc.) seem to demonstrate a strong streak of pessimism with the world of today. "It's more overwhelming, not so much pessimistic as depressed at the effects of modern institutions on human beings, how they've separated us from each other and the possibility of leading productive satisfying lives... Sure, we can live fairly disease free, but the quality of life is compromised by values of our culture - just adhering to the status quo." Moby is often caricatured as "that extremist vegan/Christian nutter" so we felt that it was time to delve beneath the common preconceptions to consider Moby's true feelings on the matter. After all, his appearance onstage at Reading with the slogan "FUCKER" daubed across his chest in paint seems somewhat at odds with the traditional image of Christian moderation. One description of his views we recently read dubbed him a "libertarian, unorthodox Christian" - "Well, unorthodox Christian, sure. I like Christ and I'm yet to find a better description of the human condition than that which Christ gives in the New Testament; but "libertarian"? There's a Libertarian Party in the United States and they're nuts. I'm not a civil libertarian but people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't impinge upon the rights of others - if you want to do heroin or blow your head off or if you want to have an abortion, fine, as long as it only affects you. The police's job shouldn't be preserving aesthetics." But surely most cases aren't clear - smoking is a personal choice but affects others just as suicide affects families in society. "Well, people always try to hide behind the smokescreen, no pun intended, of individual liberties when something they like is challenged but we've got to try to build a pragmatic consensus - smoking does hurt others, therefore in Moby's world smoking should be illegal, at least in the presence of other people. Your actions are compromising somebody else's ability to enjoy life - that's where the law should step in." There are certainly very few high profile Christians in the music world, and while many Christians would be expected to oppose the high profile of drugs in the scene Moby doesn't see himself in opposition with these trends. "I don't really have a big problem with drugs or hedonism; I just have a problem with people hurting themselves. Its like the movie Trainspotting - the opening tirade makes a lot of sense to me, I do see drug use as a viable alternative to modern suburban living; not that I would advocate it for anyone, but I don't have a real problem with it. I have a much bigger problem with people doing work and living lives that are compromised - doing your job and feeling like an upstanding member of the society but they hate their job, they're unhealthy, not happy with their family and don't feel satisfied with anything. I see that as a lot more evil and widespread than hedonism and degeneracy. A lot of the hedonism of the dance scene is destructive, just placating people so that in the week they can go and do their mind-numbing jobs - the jobs are the problem, not the drugs! The drugs aspect of dance music was what made it so interesting in a lot of ways - especially MDMA which seemed to really liberate a lot of people. The whole drug issue is dealt with in black & white with no ambiguity: either pro or anti-drugs; pro-Christian or anti-Christian - there's no ambiguity but the world just isn't like that. Why not take each issue as it comes? MDMA is a good example; it was used by psychotherapists for years in benevolent ways but suddenly people start self-medicating with a seemingly benign drug and the government says 'No, its bad'. Well where's the empirical evidence? Its just so inconsistent." Moby's album sleeves are always worth reading for their often scathing attacks on the excesses of society and promotion of an ethical way of life, but they have been dismissed by some as simply a hypertrophy of Christianity. Certainly, the love of Christ is an important aspect of Moby's work, but is the basis of Moby's viewpoint dependent on belief in God? "No, I think it relies on subjectivity. The essence of my ethical structure is the Golden Rule: if I don't want it done to me, I shouldn't do it to someone else. If I don't want a couple of pigs to put me in a stockade and kill me for my skin, I shouldn't do it to pigs. That's where my ethics come from - its really basic on that level." Of course, much established Christian thought (e.g. Catholicism) is contrary to this viewpoint - according to the Old Testament animals are placed under man's dominance due to our privileged relationship with God and are to be exploited for man's ends. The Church also bases its homophobia on Scriptural grounds. "Well, they should come and ask me 'cause I've figured it out! My belief is completely separate from the culture of Christianity. I see some flaws in it but I'm committed to Christ, not Christianity. But to me looking at the universe speaks of the existence of God; the existence of an architect at least and if you want to understand the character of the architect you've got to look at the character of the universe. If you want to learn about God, look at a forest." At this point the conversation moves into a discussion of the basis of faith, the success of Genesis chapters 1 and 2 as analogy, historical quirks of organised religion and rival theories for the origin of the universe. Fascinating as this was , its inclusion may be somewhat at odds with the typical content of the Baggage so it will have to be held back pending a decision to include a philosophical discussion page between the Live Reviews and the Elliott Interview. Later that evening Moby played with Soundgarden at the Wolverhampton Civic Hall, and won over a crowd probably unfamiliar with his dance material with an entertaining half hour of hardcore punk rock and superb thrash metal versions of house classics "Everytime You Touch Me" and "Go". According to Moby: "For some reason the British mainstream press don't want to really talk to me - they're confused and waiting to see how everybody else will respond." And although I was disappointed by his move away from his superb electronic past I was quickly won over by his performance which proves not only that he is 'jack-of-all-trades' but also 'master of all'. But the truly frightening question remains - after the not-inconsiderable shift from uplifting house to speed metal; what on earth will he try his hand at next? - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moby was talking to Tony and Dave. =========================================================================== - - Eric M. Goldberg gold@bridge.net Music Box Homepage http://www.bridge.net/~gold/mb/mb.htm "There are only two kinds of music. Good and the other kind." Duke Ellington - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:28:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! joy electric is a good man!!! tooth and nail did a bad thing by letting him go..he's got his own little electronic thing going for him.... l.e. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 11:12:57 -0600 (CST) From: ".xAQ_" Subject: (mobility) woah! ok. i think some of us are getting a bit off topic. if you're going to talk about anything other than moby, take it somewhere else. i am eternally annoyed by people telling me who to write, so don't. when i said "hardcore," i ment people like technohead, lenny dee, rob gee, force & styles, justin time, slipmatt, charly lownoise & mental theo, dugal, eruption, and many many MANY others... basically, "hardcore" techno is fast. that's about it. from 170bpm's to 20,000,000. (yes, i know of one) moby's "feeling so real" is "hardcore" if you pitch it up a bit. so there. now lets stop all this pointless fighting. it makes you look bad. >8) - -xaq- the shack of xaq-103.3fm KUMD-tuesdays 10pm-trance/happy hardcore/dance "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." "are ya done squeezing me yet?" <-ranma 1/2-> <-moby-> "women love all that rubber." <-some guy on red green-> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 20:45:28 +0300 (EDT) From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? At 10.00 5.4.1997 -0500, you wrote: >ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its >time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. >so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of >the year so far? > >Rosencrantz and Sinjinstern are dead. > > > Moby:Animal Rights David Bowie: Earthling Bjork: Telegram These are my 3 best.. Best of various: The Saint Soundtrack.. +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Samu | | Heinonen | | e-mail:samuhei@dlc.fi | | Finland | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 12:44:05 -0500 From: Sinjin Subject: Re: (mobility) Joy Electric! Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > > joy electric is a good man!!! tooth and nail did a bad thing by letting him > go..he's got his own little electronic thing going for him.... > > l.e. i just found out y4esterday what the story was on that. i thought it was kinda wierd that Brandon would let ronnie just go like that because brandon ADORES Ronnie and his music. bet then after reading some stuff, it all hit me at once. ive been BLIND! all those bands jumped over to BEC records..and whattya think BEC stands for? BRANDON EBEL COMPANY. sorta like dgc=david geffen company? brandons still got em all...and whats happening is brandon is going to be making the big push into mainstream a la subpop. hes concentraing on gettign these bands going and then selling part of the rights to a bigger company..the way sub pop did...and then having the tooth and nail logo on all the records..good business for everyone. now what appears to be the case with BEC is that brandon has taken matters into his own hands as far as mainstream distrubution..hes got a distrubution deal with caroline..hes got a new label with a new aim..hmm..should be interesting Sinjin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 13:41:10 -0500 (EST) From: MOBYchild@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? MOBY: Animal Rights Bjork: telegram Orb: Orblivion those are in no order, btw the renegade robot ~L otc+b~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 11:04:16 -0800 From: eric weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? In order: #3) Bjork - Telegram #2) David Bowie - Earthling #1) Moby - Animal Rights damn looking through what ive been listening to lately.. they are all from 1996 (aphex twin, jamiroquai, dj shadow) i guess im behind the times - -- Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/ http://pages.prodigy.com/acropolis/moby.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4255/MobyIcon.zip "If you were god what would upset you more, bare breasts on t.v. or the destruction of healthy and beautiful eco-systems?" -Moby ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 16:05:48 -0800 From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? > ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its > time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. > so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of > the year so far? Hmm....The only 2 1997 things I own are Animal Rights & Death In Vegas: Rekkit (the single)....Cubinate's last disc was at the end of last year though-that one was pretty cool... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:46:31 -0800 From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word > should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go That's almost as bad as putting Moby & Danzig in an interview together...wait...that's been done hasn't it? Seriously though-Rollins older spoken word was great (along with Pissing In The Gene Pool) but he's gotten to comedic in his old age....(imo) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 16:05:48 -0800 From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? > ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its > time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. > so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of > the year so far? Hmm....The only 2 1997 things I own are Animal Rights & Death In Vegas: Rekkit (the single)....Cubinate's last disc was at the end of last year though-that one was pretty cool... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:46:31 -0800 From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) spoken word > should do what ex punker Henry Rollins does.. write a book and then go That's almost as bad as putting Moby & Danzig in an interview together...wait...that's been done hasn't it? Seriously though-Rollins older spoken word was great (along with Pissing In The Gene Pool) but he's gotten to comedic in his old age....(imo) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 14:23:28 From: "Vanishing Son" Subject: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 Just wanted to say thanks to Samu Heinonen for the Prodigy MPEG3. I'd love to contribute & trade rare Moby mixes on MP3, and make them available to the list as well. However, what's the consensus on which tracks/mixes are rare? I've got all my Moby catalogued in my music collection list at www.swcp.com/synth/musicinv.txt , but I don't know what would be worthy to MPEG-ize and what would be a waste of time. Any ideas/discussion about this? I've got a German CD-single entitled "Move - The Mixes" (Mute Germany 826.773) with mixes that don't appear on any of the UK or US singles, so maybe this one's a contender. (If you want to get into MPEG3 listening, you can grab freeware and shareware players at www.mpeg.org . I recommend MuseArc for us Windoze 95 users. For Mac users, I believe Quicktime has an extension to play MPEG, but perhaps someone can verify this.) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ vanishing son / vson@usa.net / www.swcp.com/synth / 505 332 0139 - ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Bother!" said Pooh, as he violated the Bosnian cease-fire. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 16:00:31 -0600 From: Scott Stegenga Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? My top five are tough because not many GOOD releases have come my way yet...but here's what it is so far...in no particular order. 1. Daft Punk - Homework 2. Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole 3. Moby - Animal Rights 4. The London Suede - Coming Up 5. Depeche Mode - Ultra (I just know it'll be good) - --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Are there heartstings connected...to the wings you've got slapped on your back?" - Belly ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:28:57 -0700 From: Born Slippy Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? 1. FSOL "Dead Cities" 2. Orb "Orblivion" 3. David Bowie "Earthling" 4. Various Artists "Happy 2B Hardcore" 5. Prodigy "Pyromaniac" (although it isn't really an album, it's a bootleg, and i just can't stop listening to it) >ok gang..were almost a third of the way thru the year and i dare say its >time to express a little opinion on the music thrown to us this year. >so, everyone all together now, what are your top 5 picks for album of >the year so far? _______ ________ _______ ____ /cdperk@trib.com ____ | _ \____ / | | | / ___| | | || | | | |/ ____| | | | / | |___| || |_| | |\ \____ | | | | | ___ || / | \______ \|____| | \__|_ | | || |\ \ | | | ____ \ |___| |____|| | \ \___| _______/ /| | \_______| |___| \___\ |________/ |____| <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> WE HAVE EXPLOSIVE! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 17:48:51 -0500 From: Vitamin C Subject: Re: (mobility) album o' the year? Hell-o! Here's my contribution to the Top 5 of '97 so far: 1. Live - Secret Samadhi 2. Moby - Animal Rights 3. Mighty Mighty BossTones - Let's Face It 4. Body Count - Violent Demise: The Last Days 5. Offspring - Ixnay on the Hombre' That's all 5 of my current '97 CD's. More are on the way. Paul http://ns.infonline.net/~weeg/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 17:21:36 -0800 From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC41E7.1BA54CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would be GREAT! The Move Electro Mix sure sounds awesome on the Mixed & Remixed CD. I bet they are all good. I haven't heard those Hymn mixes in full form either. I'd love to hear the full version of All That I Need Is To Be Loved (Melodic Mix) if anyone would like to rip that one. What other songs might people want? I have a few I could trade... Shaun - -----Original Message----- From: Vanishing Son [SMTP:vson@usa.net] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 1997 6:23 AM To: mobility@xmission.com Subject: (mobility) rare Moby on MPEG3 Just wanted to say thanks to Samu Heinonen for the Prodigy MPEG3. I'd love to contribute & trade rare Moby mixes on MP3, and make them available to the list as well. However, what's the consensus on which tracks/mixes are rare? I've got all my Moby catalogued in my music collection list at www.swcp.com/synth/musicinv.txt , but I don't know what would be worthy to MPEG-ize and what would be a waste of time. Any ideas/discussion about this? 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