From: mobility-owner@xmission.com (mobility Digest) To: mobility-digest@xmission.com Subject: mobility Digest V1 #48 Reply-To: mobility@xmission.com Sender: mobility-owner@xmission.com Errors-To: mobility-owner@xmission.com Precedence: mobility Digest Monday, July 7 1997 Volume 01 : Number 048 In this issue: (mobility) No Moby on Spawn sndtrk? Re: (mobility) Marilyn Manson -Reply Re: (mobility) lopez Re: (mobility) No Moby on Spawn sndtrk? Re: (mobility) Marilyn Manson -Reply (mobility) I Like To Score Re: (mobility) I Like To Score Re: (mobility) I Like To Score Re: (mobility) Marilyn Manson -Reply Re: (mobility) radiohead Re: (mobility) lopez Re: (mobility) radiohead (mobility) Fwd: Re: Moby? (mobility) Vacation Re: (mobility) Vacation Re: (mobility) radiohead Re: (mobility) radiohead Re: (mobility) radiohead (mobility) (idm) For Sale list. Re: (mobility) femme fatale Re: (mobility) gifts Re: (mobility) gifts Re: (mobility) radiohead Re: (mobility) radiohead (mobility) Out of service & a Re:introduction (mobility) keri@mindsync.com Re: (mobility) femme fatale Re: (mobility) gifts (mobility) Sorry but more Manson Re: (mobility)Manson & Hanson ;) Re: (mobility) femme fatale Re: (mobility) femme fatale Re: (mobility) gifts See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the mobility or mobility-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Jul 97 23:09:42 PDT From: Aaron Ackerson Subject: (mobility) No Moby on Spawn sndtrk? On www.zentertainment.com, it says that the Butthole Surfers are working with Future Sounds Of London for the song on the Spawn Soundtrack. The article makes no mention of Moby. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ "If you wish to converse with me, define your terms." -Voltaire ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:12:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Danishh@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Marilyn Manson -Reply <<> waitaminute...who decides what songs are "hits"? it's the people > that listen to the music, right? the one's who buy it, right? it's not > manson's fault that half the kids between the ages of 12 and 17 > picked sweet dreams to be their slogan song. hell, manson > just wanted to cover the eurythmic's. no harm done. i do > agree, though, that marilyn is one big "show". in fact, i've seen > interviews where he's said just that. it's all put on to make > money, and he's doing a dame fine job of raking it in. >> Actually...Who decides the hits is the record companies. Do you think suddenly across the land at the same time everyone just happens to love that new song. NO. The record companies filter their idea of good music(which is at times amazing music); leaving out better bands in the indie and unheard of section, and puts their music onto the radio. If you are indie..usually if you have some talent and popularity one local radio station will spin you. Those with the money make the rules. MM isn't so much of talent, as he is image. The opposite of your parents...so it must be a rebellion....whatever. Podgy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:13:08 -0600 From: MIDIJUNKY Subject: Re: (mobility) lopez well, i don't yet have the Lopez releases, but IMHO, "the end of everything" is mind blowing and worth the $26. luckilly though, it will be released domesticallly in the US sometime this month i think. >there a domestic release of voodoo child's "the end of everything?" -- unless >it's simply mind-blowing, i don't want to pay $26.99 for the import. thanks. |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Chris "Yeah dis is Frank Rizzo..." cdperk@trib.com | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |We don't use violence to find a role in this society... | |We use violence to beat this society! | | -Atari Teenage Riot | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 04:02:15 -0400 From: "Andrew Szymczyk" Subject: Re: (mobility) No Moby on Spawn sndtrk? moby is working with the butthole surfers on the track. - ---------- : From: Aaron Ackerson : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: (mobility) No Moby on Spawn sndtrk? : Date: Thursday, July 03, 1997 2:09 AM : : On www.zentertainment.com, it says that the Butthole Surfers are : working with Future Sounds Of London for the song on the Spawn : Soundtrack. The article makes no mention of Moby. : : Aaron Ackerson : Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ : "If you wish to converse with me, define your terms." : -Voltaire : : : ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 04:08:03 -0400 From: "Andrew Szymczyk" Subject: Re: (mobility) Marilyn Manson -Reply alright, but the record company doesn't force you to support the band. of all the people that i know that bought the album with sweet dreams on it, only five or six got it because it was manson. record companies push songs that they want to succeed, but it's up to the people to request it or spend the money on the singles. and i think that indie music doesn't get played because it has horrible circulation. the more that people hear it, the better off you'll be, but small bands just don't have the money to press their music. and anyways, a lot of people aren't open minded to new music, so they want to hear the new manson single over a band that they've never heard of. it's a problem that a lot of people have. - ---------- : From: Danishh@aol.com : To: mobility@mail.xmission.com : Subject: Re: (mobility) Marilyn Manson -Reply : Date: Thursday, July 03, 1997 2:12 PM : : : <<> waitaminute...who decides what songs are "hits"? it's the people : > that listen to the music, right? the one's who buy it, right? it's not : > manson's fault that half the kids between the ages of 12 and 17 : > picked sweet dreams to be their slogan song. hell, manson : > just wanted to cover the eurythmic's. no harm done. i do : > agree, though, that marilyn is one big "show". in fact, i've seen : > interviews where he's said just that. it's all put on to make : > money, and he's doing a dame fine job of raking it in. : >> : : Actually...Who decides the hits is the record companies. : Do you think suddenly across the land at the same time everyone just happens : to love that new song. NO. The record companies filter their idea of good : music(which is at times amazing music); leaving out better bands in the indie : and unheard of section, and puts their music onto the radio. If you are : indie..usually if you have some talent and popularity one local radio station : will spin you. Those with the money make the rules. MM isn't so much of : talent, as he is image. The opposite of your parents...so it must be a : rebellion....whatever. : : Podgy : ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 15:59:20 +0000 From: phathead Subject: (mobility) I Like To Score I got this from Music News of the World Moby-I Like To Score track listing: Novio First Cool Hive The James Bond Theme Nash Go New Dawn Fades Ah Ah God Moving Over the Face of the Water Ulysses'Stripper Love Theme Next Is The E Grace Oil 1 release date : September 2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 18:07:36 -0400 From: Matt Carlton Subject: Re: (mobility) I Like To Score this may be a dumb question, but has anyone heard any of these tracks yet?: >Novio >The James Bond Theme >Nash >Ulysses'Stripper >Love Theme >Grace thanks. love, ryu "John Lennon would have never written the beautiful music he wrote at the end of his life if he hadn't gone through what he did with Yoko. He would have never written "Imagine". And "Imagine", thank God, is going to be around in 2000 years, but a song like "I am the Walrus" isn't. You know why? Because John wasn't the Walrus, he was John." - O(+> *****NNNOOOOOONNNEEEMMMAAANNNSSSHHHAAALLLBBBEEERRRUUULLLEEERRR***** Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 412-869-0908 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 01:09:21 +0300 (EDT) From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) I Like To Score At 18.07 3.7.1997 -0400, you wrote: >this may be a dumb question, but has anyone heard any >of these tracks yet?: > >>Novio >>The James Bond Theme >>Nash >>Ulysses'Stripper >>Love Theme >>Grace > >thanks. > >love, >ryu > > "John Lennon would have never written the beautiful music he wrote > at the end of his life if he hadn't gone through what he did with > Yoko. He would have never written "Imagine". And "Imagine", > thank God, is going to be around in 2000 years, but a song like > "I am the Walrus" isn't. You know why? Because John wasn't the > Walrus, he was John." - O(+> >*****NNNOOOOOONNNEEEMMMAAANNNSSSHHHAAALLLBBBEEERRRUUULLLEEERRR***** > Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 412-869-0908 > IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ > > > > maybe because they haven't release yet.. they are coming to be on Douple Tap soundtrack (expect James bond theme) ************************************** | Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei/ | | http://www.campbadass.com/lopez/ | ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 05:39:15 -0700 From: Eric Weiss Subject: Re: (mobility) Marilyn Manson -Reply Andrew Szymczyk wrote: > alright, but the record company doesn't force you to support > the band. oh yes they do! its called money... its called advertising... > of all the people that i know that bought the album > with sweet dreams on it, only five or six got it because it > was manson. record companies push songs that they > want to succeed, but it's up to the people to request it > or spend the money on the singles. is there something wrong with getting an album because you like one song on it and you want to hear what else the band does? to bring this conversation to a moby standpoint.. i got Moby-Everything Is Wrong (my first moby purchase) because I had heard Go a while back and then i saw him live and was amazed by it and wanted to hear more of what he did.. was i wrong? what should i have done? waited til i heard every song on the album before buying it? > and i think that indie > music doesn't get played because it has horrible circulation. > the more that people hear it, the better off you'll be, but > small bands just don't have the money to press their music. > and anyways, indie music doesnt get radio airplay because it doesnt have any money behind it.. for a radio station to play your song.. you a) have to give them the actual song b) kiss their ass like crazy (in the us its illegal for a record company to give money to a radio station.. but gifts are not illegal) > a lot of people aren't open minded to new > music, so they want to hear the new manson single over a > band that they've never heard of. it's a problem that a lot > of people have. umm.. i believe that for a lot of people when Sweet Dreams came out Manson was a new band that they had never heard of - -- 25:C2:6F:56:BF:67:64:21:70:F4:45:90:FD:75:16:CE Eric Weiss Epicentre Productions eric_w@geocities.com "To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk." - Thomas Alva Edison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:03:03 -0400 From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead > Chemical Brothers and > I would love to join a mailing list for any of these and currently am a > memeber of several mailing list for techno/industrial bands. if you know of > any list for these or would like to know which groups I am on let me know I'm on the chemical list, as well as this one; it's usually got quite a bit of good discussions going on, although it's been rather juvenille of late. Send a message to MAJORDOMO@VMG.CO.UK with no subject, and in the body write: subscribe chemical Your-Name and voila! You'll be well on your way to receiving 50+ messages a day ;) As for industrial bands? I would imagine that Marilyn Manson has the only readily active mailing list in the genre recently. Seeing as how the entire scene has virtually collapsed on itself I don't see much happening. Sorry for the bitch session, but I really miss the heyday of industrial music before it became polluted....hmm....:( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:50:34 -0400 From: "Hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility) lopez if anyone can help me out, please do. i had (and still have) a chance to purchase emptiness and why cant it stop? by lopez (both on cd). they look real cool, but i just want to know if anyone already has them. also, is there a domestic release of voodoo childs the end of everything? -- unless its simply mind-blowing, i dont want to pay $26.99 for the import. thanks. I've got all of the Trophy releases and they're pretty solid-certainly not on par with more recent techno excursions by other bands, but good nonetheless. I don't have End Of Everything, simply because it's due to be released domestically in the next few weeks. Like you, I'm not willing to pay that much for it ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 16:26:47 -0400 From: Matt Carlton Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead >As for industrial bands? I would imagine that Marilyn Manson has the only >readily active mailing list in the genre recently. there's a nitzer ebb list i believe. don't knwo the address, but a friend of mine was on it once. love, ryu "John Lennon would have never written the beautiful music he wrote at the end of his life if he hadn't gone through what he did with Yoko. He would have never written "Imagine". And "Imagine", thank God, is going to be around in 2000 years, but a song like "I am the Walrus" isn't. You know why? Because John wasn't the Walrus, he was John." - O(+> *****NNNOOOOOONNNEEEMMMAAANNNSSSHHHAAALLLBBBEEERRRUUULLLEEERRR***** Ryu * ryu97@twd.net * 412-869-0908 IowotflaichiNoromDreamboyCipherStoicDonQuixoteJonZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 97 09:26:14 PDT From: Aaron Ackerson Subject: (mobility) Fwd: Re: Moby? Date: Fri, 04 Jul 97 18:31:44 PDT From: BeerHound@aol.com To: spacecat@spideyweb.net Subject: Re: Moby? In a message dated 7-4-97 5:36:53 PM, you wrote: >On alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica, you said you have a copy of the >Spawn Soundtrack. Is there a track by Moby and Butthole Surfers on >there? Yes, it's called "Tiny Rubberband." Paul Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ "If you wish to converse with me, define your terms." -Voltaire ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 20:16:57 +0300 (EDT) From: Samu Heinonen Subject: (mobility) Vacation i am going little vacation, and i will be offline 5.7-15.5. so i can't respond any mails on that time. thanx. you can mail anyway, but i have warned about delay. ************************************** | Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei/ | | http://www.campbadass.com/lopez/ | ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:10:32 +0300 (EDT) From: Samu Heinonen Subject: Re: (mobility) Vacation At 20.16 5.7.1997 +0300, you wrote: >i am going little vacation, and i will be offline 5.7-15.5. sorry that should be 5.7-15.7 sorry.. ************************************** | Samu Heinonen (samuhei@dlc.fi) | | http://www.dlc.fi/~samuhei/ | | http://www.campbadass.com/lopez/ | ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 19:00:26 EDT From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead >r.e.m. does a pretty damn good job of that too, even if some of them >aren't the best musicians in the world. Them and the VU. > someone else here likes vu>?! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 20:31:46 -0400 (EDT) From: tyler Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead > >r.e.m. does a pretty damn good job of that too, even if some of them > >aren't the best musicians in the world. Them and the VU. > > > someone else here likes vu>?! of course I do! I'll bet that many people on here like the velvets, but many haven't heard them. They have an inspired and influenced so many bands that I think all new music is somehow a result of this band whether or not it was meant to be. so how many lou reed/vu fans DO we have here? - -tyler ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:56:58 -0600 From: MIDIJUNKY Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead i love the velvet underground. i was able to get the "peel slowly and see box set for only $20, and absolutely love the emotion and power in the music. and the instrumentation is great too. >so how many lou reed/vu fans DO we have here? |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Chris "Yeah dis is Frank Rizzo..." cdperk@trib.com | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/e/n/centralindustrial.html | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |We don't use violence to find a role in this society... | |We use violence to beat this society! | | -Atari Teenage Riot | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 00:24:16 -0500 From: fishlips@ahbqs.com Subject: (mobility) (idm) For Sale list. PT>Here is another for sale list ... e-mail me privately PT>with offers ptbense@awod.com PT>CD For-Sale List [7-06-97]: PT>Artist Title PT>------------------------------------------------------------------------- PT>Moby Move PT> 6 track Single/EP with 3 mixes of the track "Move" -- several of PT> which almost have a "Ritchie Hawtin" sound to them. Also includes PT> the very tribal sounding track "Morning Dove" and a very beautiful PT> instrumental song called "The Rain Falls and the Sky Shudders" Whooooooo wants it? :) Hopefully someone on the idm list didn't already get it :) Ryan Fishlips@ahbqs.com www.ahbqs.com/fishlips/mypage.htm PS..email the person..not me :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 20:13:35 EDT From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) femme fatale > They have an inspired and influenced so many >bands that I think all new music is somehow a result of this band >whether >or not it was meant to be. what a great way of thinking about it does anyone know if mo still does anything ? i know john cale has done some soundtrack schtuff.. sar* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 20:13:35 EDT From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) gifts On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:56:58 -0600 MIDIJUNKY writes: >i love the velvet underground. i was able to get the "peel slowly and >see box set for only $20, and absolutely love the emotion and power in the >music. and the instrumentation is great too. 20 bucks?! lucky bastard. i have it dubbed off my friend who shelled the big bucks for it. the velvet underground are amazing. mo tucker has this web page though, and its really weird, she's very defensive about it not being 'lou's band',.. since were on the topic of vu, would anyone mind if i asked who likes andy warhol? the moby news seems to be coming slow anyways :> sar* oh yeah- i saw orbital on the 4th- the funniest somg i ever heard- a remix of 'you give love a bad name' bon jovi & 'heaven is a place on earth' belinda carslile.. does anyone know if this is on an album? i only have 2.. thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 20:45:07 -0400 From: L Potter Subject: Re: (mobility) gifts >oh yeah- i saw orbital on the 4th- the funniest somg i ever heard- a >remix of 'you give love a bad name' bon jovi & 'heaven is a place on >earth' belinda carslile.. does anyone know if this is on an album? i only >have 2.. thanks if i'm not mistaken, that megamix of songs is on the "in sides" album... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9514/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:42:57 -0600 From: "John K. Coffey II" Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead thanks, but I really dont want 50 msg a day, so i will decide wether to join it or not... John K. Coffey II john@coffey.com www.coffey.com/~john ---- From: Hypecadet To: mobility@mail.xmission.com Date: Friday, July 04, 1997 1:23 PM Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead >> Chemical Brothers and >> I would love to join a mailing list for any of these and currently am a >> memeber of several mailing list for techno/industrial bands. if you know >of >> any list for these or would like to know which groups I am on let me know > >I'm on the chemical list, as well as this one; it's usually got quite a bit >of good discussions going on, although it's been rather juvenille of late. >Send a message to MAJORDOMO@VMG.CO.UK with no subject, and in the body >write: >subscribe chemical Your-Name > >and voila! You'll be well on your way to receiving 50+ messages a day ;) > >As for industrial bands? I would imagine that Marilyn Manson has the only >readily active mailing list in the genre recently. Seeing as how the >entire scene has virtually collapsed on itself I don't see much happening. >Sorry for the bitch session, but I really miss the heyday of industrial >music before it became polluted....hmm....:( > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:47:27 -0600 From: owner-mobility@xmission.com Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead > ***The following bounced because of the words used in the email. > ***Such words as 'subscribe' and 'unsubscribe' will trigger an auto- > ***matic bounce. Nothing in the following email has been modified. > ***Sorry for the delay. damian (mailto:owner-mobility@xmission.com) Sender: owner-mobility@xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mobility From: Aaron Ackerson Subject: Re: (mobility) radiohead Date: Fri, 04 Jul 97 22:50:46 PDT >As for industrial bands? I would imagine that Marilyn Manson has the only >readily active mailing list in the genre recently. Seeing as how the >entire scene has virtually collapsed on itself I don't see much happening. There is a mailing list for Marilyn Manson and all the other artists on Nothing Records. To subscribe, send a message to majordomo@listserv.prodigy.com with the words subscribe nothing in the body of the message. Aaron Ackerson Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Marina/6593/ "If you wish to converse with me, define your terms." -Voltaire ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 23:59:59 -0600 From: Damian Subject: (mobility) Out of service & a Re:introduction Hello one and all... I'm writing to let everyone know that I have basically been off-line for the past two days. I was having major problems with my computer and was unable to monitor or respond to recent events. In my short absence a few problems arose. Several bounces were received, I have forwarded most of them to the list, however, some were lost. Several members of the mailing list sent personal emails, I promise to answer your letters soon. I've also decided to send the "Introductory Text" to the mailing list. Please keep this for future reference and make special note of the "Golden Rules" - especially rules # 2 & 3 which are often hard to follow. Thanks! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mailing List INTRODUCTORY TEXT *** Mailing List Formed in October 1996 *** Administered by: 'Damian' (damian@xmission.com) Welcome to Mobility: The unofficial Moby mailing list! This list discusses the aspects, rumors, and issues of the music artist Moby. It also discusses his pseudonyms (i.e., Lopez, Voodoo Child, etc.) and the music of his record label Trophy. 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'Damian' - -- ** mailto:damian@xmission.com ** Moby - Erasure - Jam & Spoon ** http://www.xmission.com/~damian/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 23:14:18 -0700 From: keri Subject: (mobility) keri@mindsync.com i see where the problem is and have corrected it. i wasn't able to figure it out until i read your response a second time. thanks for pointing the problem out. i'm using communicator 4,but sometimes i use msie where the addy is correct. i've gone ahead and corrected my preferences. minor typo with major problems. dang it can you post my ramblings i sent to the list? sorry for being a pain in the arse. keri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:34:18 -0400 (EDT) From: tyler Subject: Re: (mobility) femme fatale > what a great way of thinking about it > does anyone know if mo still does anything ? i know john cale > has done some soundtrack schtuff.. I was reading a newspaper article shortly after the last death of a band member (who was it, sterling I think)... and it said Mo doesn't do much musically anymore; she's a mom, and so she doesn't have much time to spend with a band. - -tyler ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:36:07 -0400 (EDT) From: tyler Subject: Re: (mobility) gifts > 20 bucks?! lucky bastard. i have it dubbed off my friend who shelled the > big bucks for it. the velvet underground are amazing. mo tucker has this > web page though, and its really weird, she's very defensive about it not > being 'lou's band',.. > since were on the topic of vu, would anyone mind if i asked who likes > andy warhol? the moby news seems to be coming slow anyways :> Well, I started getting really into that whole era of art just a year or so before the VU, and so now I go to every museum that has that stuff... Warhol, Lichtenstein, those are my two favorites, then all the rest, some Jasper Johns, etc. Some of the stuff is really cool. - -tyler ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:31:36 -0400 (EDT) From: katetad@neca.com Subject: (mobility) Sorry but more Manson >waitaminute...who decides what songs are "hits"? it's the people >that listen to the music, right? the one's who buy it, right? it's not >manson's fault that half the kids between the ages of 12 and 17 >picked sweet dreams to be their slogan song. hell, manson >just wanted to cover the eurythmic's. no harm done. i do >agree, though, that marilyn is one big "show". in fact, i've seen >interviews where he's said just that. it's all put on to make >money, and he's doing a dame fine job of raking it in. So we admit he's a sellout, and maybe didn't *mean* for his listening audience to be adolescents desperately searching for some form of rebellion. I still have NO respect for the man, the music, the message, whatever. >i love to see how many people feel a need to speak up at the mention of >marilyn manson. it just goes to show how much of an impact they've made. >i'm happy! Good for you! Sorry I don't want to be sarcastic. It juist struck me a s funny because that is *exactly* what my one Manson-liking (well, worshipping) friend would say). >the thing that bothers me so much isnt marilyn manson, its the fans who >act like now all of a sudden they are these scary 'goth' ppl when >yesterday >they were listening to green day. its just like the korn kids with their >adidas I could not agree any more!!!!! I changed schools from elementary to middle (I'm in high school now) and whenever I see anyone all the little Madonna wannabes and NKOTB fanatics who made fun of me constantly cuz I liked the Cure, Depeche Mode, and REM are all dressed up in their mall punk clothes. IT makes me want to puke!!! > i *do* have a >problem when ppl change themselves or their so-called beliefs just in >order to fit in with the 'style' they >like. YES!!!!! My words exactly!!! > they have a freakin 15 year old >clientel, and >this doesnt Bother anyone>? nope, as long as sales are up. I know I've been bashing teens just as much as anyone but hey I'm only sixteen so could we be a little less harsh here? As I *hope* I show we're not all like that. I saw Scream for the first time the other day and hooboy did it suck! But I was shocked at teh end to hear Moby! I can't believe he put one of his songs in that piece of crap! Does anyone know if The Saint is any better? Does anyone have that soundtrack? Is the soundtrack any good cause it looks like it would be. I know my posts are *way* too long but one more thing. Is anyone on this list or does anyone on this list know this guy Brian who used to live in Marlborough CT and is absolutely the biggest moby fan on earth? I know he's on the web so I wouldn't be shocked to find him here. That's all for now.... ^.* Kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:58:28 -0700 From: "hypecadet" Subject: Re: (mobility)Manson & Hanson ;) > So we admit he's a sellout, and maybe didn't *mean* for his > listening audience to be adolescents desperately searching for some form of > rebellion. I still have NO respect for the man, the music, the message, > whatever. I think that he did intend for that to happen; when his first album came out it was virtually unheard of-in fact my friends & I would take the cd into industrial clubs to get them to play it. In the past year and a half however, he's decided to choose image over music, and sadly it shows up in the creativity of his work (read: it sucks now). > I know I've been bashing teens just as much as anyone but hey I'm > only sixteen so could we be a little less harsh here? As I *hope* I show > we're not all like that. :) Indeed you have... > I saw Scream for the first time the other day and hooboy did it suck! But > I was shocked at teh end to hear Moby! I can't believe he put one of his > songs in that piece of crap! Does anyone know if The Saint is any better? > Does anyone have that soundtrack? Is the soundtrack any good cause it > looks like it would be. !!!Are you serious? I thought that Scream was one of the most intelligent horror movies of the past 10 years (along with In The Mouth Of Madness & City Of Lost Children). The writing was amazing, the acting was superb-and it ended with First Cool Hive ;) I was quite pleased that he lent a song to it. Regarding the Saint; I think that most people will agree that it was quite a mediocre film-nothing great & nothing terrible. The soundtrack? With the exception of Everything But The Girl & Moby, it was a fairly forced effort. All of the "next big thing" artists are featured with their respective "big" new tracks. Get it for the Moby song if you must (I did), but other compilations are much, much better (Wipeout XL & The Trip Hop Test Volume 1 come to mind). Take care.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:08:36 -0700 From: keri Subject: Re: (mobility) femme fatale tyler wrote: > > what a great way of thinking about it > > does anyone know if mo still does anything ? i know john > cale > > has done some soundtrack schtuff.. > > I was reading a newspaper article shortly after the last death of a > band > member (who was it, sterling I think)... and it said Mo doesn't do > much > musically anymore; she's a mom, and so she doesn't have much time to > spend with a band. > > -tyler there was a recent article in a mag on what she's doing now. alas i read so many of them i can't remember which. maybe RS,but that's as about mainstream press as i go. does anybody know if "berlin" is still available in vinyl? that album is a must have. also when will "come on baby" be out? i've bought my stores entire moby collection and they haven't gotten my imports in. it's been a month.of course i'm also waiting for REM "how the west was won" imported from germany. to live in europe would be divine. keri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:38:01 EDT From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) femme fatale >does anybody know if "berlin" is still available in vinyl? that album >is a must have. im pretty sure its not- i went on a vu & lou record hunt awhile ago. nothing at the big stores but my friend snagged berlin for a buck at amvets last summer, i got a few lou reeds. check independant stores, or thrift shops is all i can suggest. berlin is definitly one of the oddest out there.. sorta creepy, yknow? sar* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:38:01 EDT From: kpicara@juno.com (sarah j mamott) Subject: Re: (mobility) gifts >Well, I started getting really into that whole era of art just a year >or so before the VU, and so now I go to every museum that has that >stuff... Warhol, Lichtenstein, those are my two favorites, then all the rest, >some Jasper Johns, etc. > >Some of the stuff is really cool. that it is. andy is great.. you start reading about his life and wonder what planet he's from <: have you ever seen any work my jean michel basquiat? he's another fave of mine; very childlike but when you look into the works ther is so much hidden. art is one of the biggest parts of my life.. i think it takes a lot of balls to throw your life on paper and let others check it out.. same with music.. sar* ------------------------------ End of mobility Digest V1 #48 ***************************** To subscribe to mobility Digest, send the command: subscribe mobility-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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