From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V1 #103 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk mobility-digest Sunday, March 8 1998 Volume 01 : Number 103 Re: (mobility) things and stuff Re: (mobility) things and stuff Re: (mobility) things and stuff (mobility) friend (mobility) this and that ... Re: (mobility) this and that ... (mobility) Hello (mobility) Hello (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) (mobility) Moby in SODA Magazine! Re: (mobility) Moby in SODA Magazine! Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) Re: (mobility) Moby in SODA Magazine! Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:38:56 GMT From: AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com Subject: Re: (mobility) things and stuff Quick question: When was Moby born? This message sent using the FirstClass SMTP/NNTP Gateway for Mac OS. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:02:53 -0600 (CST) From: DAVIESA@uwplatt.edu Subject: Re: (mobility) things and stuff moby was born september 11, 1965 in new york city. andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 20:55:22 +0000 From: Your Name Subject: Re: (mobility) things and stuff > moby was born september 11, 1965 in new york city. > andy....... do you know what time he was born...........? explaining moby from an astrological perspective is rather interesting to say the least. clay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:47:01 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) friend just ta let u all know my friend spaz should be joining the list soon. I let him borrow my copy of Thanks and told him about the list and shit like dat. But I'll let him make his own intro. MMMMOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYY == "What was that?" "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day." -Adams Family Values >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:11:24 EST From: DropABeat Subject: (mobility) this and that ... number 1: i got my copies of "thanks" today -- needless to say, i'm head over heels in love with it. seriously, the songs on this disc are light years beyond some of the garbage "electronica" they're trying to market these days ... if people like Amp and all that disposable muzak, they should hear this disc ! anyway, it really is incredible. number 2: in light of the praise surrounding the "thanks" disc, i thought i should once again tell you how mind-blowingly wonderful your disc is ... has had permanent residence in one of my two stereos for the past month ! number 3: Xaq -- i couldn't quite make it to minneapolis (it's just a bit too far for me), but i did check out the show when it stopped in norwalk, here in CT. i was on BT's guest list, so we were hanging out for a while, and his performance was far and away the high-point of the night. the power went dead on stage in the middle of his set, but they started up again not ten minutes later ... it was semi-amusing, because the power shut off right on beat -- most everybody in the place thought that it was the end of the song. progressive house don't just stop, however ... number 4: Rekkit -- Moby has played "go" every time i've seen him, whether it's in a club, the rave-esque Big Top tour, or various festivals ... the version recorded at the Splash Club is actually a rock version. it starts off with him saying "this is a song i ripped off years ago," and then starts playing his guitar -- no distortion, very acoustic sounding, in a picking- style ... anyway, as the song builds, he kicks in the distortion, and bass and drums follow ... i've never seen him perform it this way live, however. later ! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:54:46 -0800 From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) this and that ... >drums follow ... i've never seen him perform it this way live, however. That's what I was looking for...hmm....As much as I like the generic mixes of 'Go' I'm fairly confident that I really prefer the Splash Club version. Rather akin to the 'fucked up' mix of Everytime You Touch Me that Moby voices himself.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Death In Vegas: The Unofficial Page: http://www.spectranet.ca/~rekkit/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:14:51 EST From: Orbital63 Subject: (mobility) Hello Hi everyone, i am here, new address, new Mobility, Can somone update me on The new single, album, and tour dates.........also anyother tour dates from cool people. I LIVE IN CLEVELAND, so any ohio city , , , , THANK YOU!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:14:51 EST From: Orbital63 Subject: (mobility) Hello Hi everyone, i am here, new address, new Mobility, Can somone update me on The new single, album, and tour dates.........also anyother tour dates from cool people. I LIVE IN CLEVELAND, so any ohio city , , , , THANK YOU!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:01:37 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) hey mobyites, i just got the new goldie cd. I know this has nothing to do with moby, but i have to vent this out somewhere. if you don't care, delete this letter or skip this letter. I am really pissed off at all music critics who are giving "Saturnzreturn" bad reviews. This is a truly beautiful album. It is an emotional autobiography of an artist. This is his life story. Goldie put his whole life into this. His heart, soul, mind, brain, emotions, all the highs and lows of his life, his rough childhood in which he was seperated from his mother and had to live in foster homes, bronx hip-hop scene when he was a graffitti artist, his childhood friends, heroes, memories, and daydreams, times when he wanted to commit suicide, everything. It's all here. These critics are all mad because it isn't a drum'n'bass album. Well did Goldie grow up with drum'n'bass? As Goldie says himself, "Timeless" was just his dream, but "Saturn" is his life story. This is trult a work of art. I am appalled at what rollingstone said in its review. They gave it 2 and a half stars. They said shit like "well in 1995 goldie was the face of jungle but now the face of jungle is roni size..." blahh! i mean, i like roni size and all, and i haven't bought his cd yet, but this is excellent!just because goldie does an entirely ambient/classical cd, doesn't mean he's lost it. The critics seem to like the drum'n'bass stuff, some of it, but they can't stand the classical/ambient stuff. I mean, Goldie does get little emotional in "Mother", but he means it. It's coming straight from his inner soul. It's like these critics don't understand him. They only like him for his jungle stuff, but they don't give a fuck about the man himself, and his goals and dreams, and his past life. It's really a shame that since Goldie is not that popular, and critics are not giving it good reviews, and he is not likely to have a hit single from it, so "Saturnz" won't do very well commercially. Meaning not many people will hear what he has to say,his life story. It's kind of depressing. To relate this to Moby, this cd is at least as emotionla as Everything Is Wrong. No, more. The music isn't always as good, but it is not only good for a few trax, as critics would leave you to believe. It is kind of a rough listen, and you have to listen to it a lot to get used to it, but it is probably the most emotional cd i've heard. At least it ties for most emotional. It is definitely not a loser in my book. Well, I'm not going to tell you all you absolutely have to buy this cd, but it is a great cd and it is worth every penny. (especially because it is a double cd sold at a single cd price.) But if you want to buy a cd and you don't know what to buy but you think you need to buy something, buy "Saturnzreturn" because It is just so emotional and I'm sure at least one of you out there will like it more than the critics do. There's probably one of you that thinks that already. I'm sure there's many goldie fans out there who think this is better than the first one, or at least who feel his emotions and think the critics are wrong. Well it's just a fantastic cd in my opinion, an early contendor for cd of the year. And if one of you buys it, or has bought it, please tell me what you think, because this is just a beautiful cd. Oh well, I guess this is the critics getting back at me for dissing the new cds by Pearl Jam and Bjork. Way too overrated, not nearly as good as the critics say they are. Oh well. Thanks for reading this if you did, even if you think this is a waste of time, agree with the critics, and/or will just throw it out. At least someone's listening to me. Well goodbye, and FUCK ALL THE CRITICS WHO HATE THIS CD!!!!!!!!! FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU AAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry about that. goodbye. == "What was that?" "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day." -Adams Family Values >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:20:35 -0800 From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) >To relate this to Moby, this cd is at least as emotionla as Everything >Is Wrong. No, more. The music isn't always as good, but it is not only >good for a few trax, as critics would leave you to believe. It is kind >of a rough listen, and you have to listen to it a lot to get used to >it, but it is probably the most emotional cd i've heard. At least it >ties for most emotional. It is definitely not a loser in my book. Sorry, but I totally disagree. Timeless was decent, Saturnzreturnz is *crap*. There's no way it even approaches the emotion that Moby conveys. Disc 1 is an epic journey into self-indulgent tripe, and disc 2 is a series of *terrible* songs-the only decent one is Digital, and that track really had no lasting value. Don't get me wrong, I really love long droning tracks like 'Cop Shoot Cop', 'The Box', 'Reject' & 'The Howler Parts 1 & 2', but there was no substance to Mother. Moby did a wonderful thing with Dark; he really infused emotion into DnB. Massive Attack unfurls furious emotions on their discs. Goldie has ripped off Massive Attack on both of his albums, and done a very poor job. And the fact that Moby managed to do 'Dark' better than Goldie could have...well that's just the final nail in the man's coffin. The Inner City Life 3-part track is gold, and I'll never part with it. It's just too bad that he had no vision for future longevity..... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 09:38:45 -0800 From: Dustin Rabin Subject: (mobility) Moby in SODA Magazine! Hi! SODA Magazine Issue 6 is now up at www.sodamag.com ! In this issue: A great, recent interview with Moby by SODA's Mike Devlin. Please come check it out and tell a friend or two. Also in this issue, interviews with Olympic Gold Medallist Ross Rebagliati (Snowboarding), singer Kacy Crowley, Seven Mary Three, and actress Raquel Bianca. Coming soon: Interviews with Brad, Moby, and The New Meanies. Concert reviews from Vancouver, Boston, and London, England. Plus a Juliana Hatfield photo gallery. All this plus lots more fun stuff including CD reviews, movie reviews, game reviews, and SODA's CD Give Away #6! Dustin Rabin, soda@sodamag.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:08:21 -0800 From: Alexander3@webtv.net (Alvin) Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in SODA Magazine! Cool! I just got done reading it and it was good. As much as I know Moby and already know about all his views and opinions are, I still liked it. I mean, I basically know all his views on certain subjects, but to kind of "hear" him and have other peoples eyes open to him is great! Good job! Alexander3@webtv.net "But I like confusing people. It keeps life interesting." - moby ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 13:18:16 +0500 From: "G. Walker" Subject: Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) The major similarity to Saturnzreturn & EiW is how they both toss music from different genres onto the same cd....which is something I frankly don't like all that much, when i listen to a cd i think it shoudl comvey the same atmosphere thru out (Maybe i'm not making sense...like, for example, Bjork can do it, she can have a fast dancey-ravey song then move into something slow and ballady, and it's a smooth transition...) With the new Goldie for example; Digital is a fun track, and I Believe is just beautiful, but i don't feel like they belong on the same cd, and didn't Goldie already do an ep or something w/KRS-One?? Yesturday I was at our local public library and waiting to have my books check out, started looking thru their meager cd collection. ( I live in a town called Spotsylvania, VA; our library is approx the size of a shoebox) and came across Moby's Ambient. Right there between Yanni & Bob Seager...i was quite surprised, i never expected to come across any of Moby's stuff there....neat. ~ginger! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 18:25:23 -0000 From: "Stuart Adair" Subject: Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics (not moby---if you don't want to read non-moby mail, just throw this one out or skip it.) >Digital is a fun track, and I Believe >is just beautiful, but i don't feel like they belong on the same cd, and >didn't Goldie already do an ep or something w/KRS-One?? AFAIK Digital's the only track they've done together. Stuart _____________________ \_ .:stuart adair:. /____:dubstar::moby::scrawn&lard::eddieizzard:| "i'm / / stu042@bigfoot.com \_________ :bigbeat:::interactivefiction:| covered / / stuart.adair@stud.umist.ac.uk _) :terrypratchett::::drum&bass:| in \ \/\ c.floor homepage back up! (_ /\ :zxspectrum::::fatboyslim:| beees!" \__/ http://cfloor.home.ml.org [__)/ \_ :quake:kenickie:[frenzi]| -(e.i) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:05:25 -0800 From: "cm(matt)" Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby in SODA Magazine! >I know you were in Flipper, which was one of Kurt Cobain's favorite bands (Cobain once wore a Flipper T->shirt on the cover of Rolling Stone). Did you ever get to discuss Flipper with Kurt? >I know the other guys in Nirvana, but I never got to meet Kurt. this is from the interview.... i looked around the moby discography and in the liner notes for the 3 flipper albums they have at cdnow... but no mention of one richard hall or moby or anything like that.. anyone know if he really was in flipper?? im kinda confused. thanks - ----- rev. matt k bormet, esq. wired cow productions jbormet@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~jbormet - -----Original Message----- From: Dustin Rabin To: mobility@xmission.com Date: Sunday, March 08, 1998 9:42 AM Subject: (mobility) Moby in SODA Magazine! >Hi! >SODA Magazine Issue 6 is now up at www.sodamag.com ! > >In this issue: A great, recent interview with Moby by SODA's Mike >Devlin. Please come check it out and tell a friend or two. > >Also in this issue, interviews with Olympic Gold Medallist Ross >Rebagliati (Snowboarding), singer Kacy Crowley, Seven Mary Three, and >actress Raquel Bianca. > >Coming soon: >Interviews with Brad, Moby, and The New Meanies. > >Concert reviews from Vancouver, Boston, and London, England. Plus a >Juliana Hatfield photo gallery. > >All this plus lots more fun stuff including CD reviews, movie reviews, >game reviews, and SODA's CD Give Away #6! > >Dustin Rabin, >soda@sodamag.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 14:02:54 -0600 From: "Dennis Daniels" Subject: Re: (mobility) goldie's new cd, and @#^$ the critics I haven't heard anything new by Goldie, but I agree that Goldie is a pure genius. This sort of goes along with the people that expected 'Animal Rights' to be another techno album and were confused and pissed off because it was punk. I like just about everything I've heard by Goldie so far. The critics are measly pieces of shit anyway, so it doesn't matter to me what they think; if I like an artist, then I'll buy his albums anyway, regardless of what anybody says. Goldie is way too underrated. D. - ---------- hey mobyites, i just got the new goldie cd. I know this has nothing to do with moby, but i have to vent this out somewhere. if you don't care, delete this letter or skip this letter. I am really pissed off at all music critics who are giving "Saturnzreturn" bad reviews. This is a truly beautiful album. It is an emotional autobiography of an artist. This is his life story. Goldie put his whole life into this. His heart, soul, mind, brain, emotions, all the highs and lows of his life, his rough childhood in which he was seperated from his mother and had to live in foster homes, bronx hip-hop scene when he was a graffitti artist, his childhood friends, heroes, memories, and daydreams, times when he wanted to commit suicide, everything. It's all here. These critics are all mad because it isn't a drum'n'bass album. Well did Goldie grow up with drum'n'bass? As Goldie says himself, "Timeless" was just his dream, but "Saturn" is his life story. This is trult a work of art. I am appalled at what rollingstone said in its review. They gave it 2 and a half stars. They said shit like "well in 1995 goldie was the face of jungle but now the face of jungle is roni size..." blahh! i mean, i like roni size and all, and i haven't bought his cd yet, but this is excellent!just because goldie does an entirely ambient/classical cd, doesn't mean he's lost it. The critics seem to like the drum'n'bass stuff, some of it, but they can't stand the classical/ambient stuff. I mean, Goldie does get little emotional in "Mother", but he means it. It's coming straight from his inner soul. It's like these critics don't understand him. They only like him for his jungle stuff, but they don't give a fuck about the man himself, and his goals and dreams, and his past life. It's really a shame that since Goldie is not that popular, and critics are not giving it good reviews, and he is not likely to have a hit single from it, so "Saturnz" won't do very well commercially. Meaning not many people will hear what he has to say,his life story. It's kind of depressing. To relate this to Moby, this cd is at least as emotionla as Everything Is Wrong. No, more. The music isn't always as good, but it is not only good for a few trax, as critics would leave you to believe. It is kind of a rough listen, and you have to listen to it a lot to get used to it, but it is probably the most emotional cd i've heard. At least it ties for most emotional. It is definitely not a loser in my book. Well, I'm not going to tell you all you absolutely have to buy this cd, but it is a great cd and it is worth every penny. (especially because it is a double cd sold at a single cd price.) But if you want to buy a cd and you don't know what to buy but you think you need to buy something, buy "Saturnzreturn" because It is just so emotional and I'm sure at least one of you out there will like it more than the critics do. There's probably one of you that thinks that already. I'm sure there's many goldie fans out there who think this is better than the first one, or at least who feel his emotions and think the critics are wrong. Well it's just a fantastic cd in my opinion, an early contendor for cd of the year. And if one of you buys it, or has bought it, please tell me what you think, because this is just a beautiful cd. Oh well, I guess this is the critics getting back at me for dissing the new cds by Pearl Jam and Bjork. Way too overrated, not nearly as good as the critics say they are. Oh well. Thanks for reading this if you did, even if you think this is a waste of time, agree with the critics, and/or will just throw it out. At least someone's listening to me. Well goodbye, and FUCK ALL THE CRITICS WHO HATE THIS CD!!!!!!!!! FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YYYYYYOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU AAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry about that. goodbye. == "What was that?" "Just a curse, honey. Have a nice day." -Adams Family Values >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V1 #103 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.