From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V1 #173 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Wednesday, June 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 173 Re: (mobility) Re Recoil and MA Re: (mobility) Moby / Bulls game (mobility) Voodoo Children Re: (mobility) AC Superstar, sampling... Re: (mobility) Re Recoil and MA Re: (mobility) Voodoo Children RE: (mobility) Voodoo Children (mobility) jimmy puff poppy page Re: (mobility) Re Recoil and MA Re: (mobility) Voodoo Children (mobility) stuff Re: (mobility) stuff (mobility) old record sale Re: (mobility) Voodoo Children (mobility) friend of moby's (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM Re: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM Re: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:27:51 -0500 From: "Scott Stegenga" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re Recoil and MA >Speaking of Toni Halliday, can anyone confirm for me >whether Curve have reformed and released a new single, or >was I dreaming about hearing it on radio 'X' FM? Curve has come back and have released a new album, 'Come Clean', which hits alot more electronica than I think it should, but nonetheless, its still a good CD. Toni and Dean make a great duo. They're going on tour soon with The Dandy Warhols as the opener. They did a mini-tour earlier this year and I saw it in Chicago...not bad. - --- Scott Steg...I Love Carrots "Please could you stop the noise I'm trying to get some rest... from all the unborn chicken voices in my head." - Radiohead ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:36:36 +0200 From: Jonathan Ruano Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby / Bulls game On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 01:04:14PM -0700, Rasidel Jedro Slika wrote: Hola, Mobidicts: > Wow this was very cool. Last night during the Bulls/Pacers game pregame, > "Shining" was played! And then, if that wasn't enough, they played > "New Dawn Fades" later on, during the 3rd quarter I think. Just clips, > but still awesome to hear! They're great when are played as back of something you like! > Someone at NBC is a hardcore Moby fan, I > should think. I heard several times JB Theme after the film was released, but never though there was a Moby fan on TV, but (unfortunately) somebody who gets trendy films OSTs, and finds something grooving to play as a clip. I swear I try to pay attention to those clips, if they amaze me with some other "not so recent" Moby song, but I'vent been lucky till now :( Jonathan "Kobalt". - -- If at first you don't succeed, quit; don't be a nut about success. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:29:52 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: (mobility) Voodoo Children I was watching Eddie Griifin's comedy hour on HBO the other day. His stage name / nickname is, you guessed it, Voodoo Child. He was hilarious when he was off the wall, when he did his stereotype acts, it was kind of lame. His impression of a white guy was of a stereotype of an uptight yuppie. Maybe I'm being silly, but it bothered me a little. However, his charades about black people were very funny to me. I wonder how a white comedian doing a caricature of a black guy would be received by a black person. Hmm. Club iMusic made a Moby mistake, saying that Moby created Oil1 brand new for the Saint. My buddy Taco was playing my Animal Rights CD which I lent him and his girlfriend was saying that her sister has it, too. She also said she really really liked it a whole lot. Taco got her to rant and rave about how great it was before telling her who it was. You see, she is very anti-Moby, anti-techno, anti-dance. And anti-hip-hop. Just alternamuzak on the new rawk alternative, Q101. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:56:34 -0700 From: Rekkit Subject: Re: (mobility) AC Superstar, sampling... >I'm really turned off by the yo boy sound >It ruined quite a few MLWTTKK songs in my opinion, is MA like them >at all...soimetimes dark, gothic, techno- with divas and a soul pop >kind of sound over all of it? The new Massive Attack (actually, any of their material) sounds nothing like MLWTTKK. It's kind of funny, trying to picture Daddy G spout out some Groovy Mann lyrics "Put your eyes on the road and SUCK the wild!"...Their stuff is fairly mellow, and yeah the new album is much "darker" than previous releases. It's not nearly as good as Protection or Blue Lines however. The Teardrop 12" is phenominal though-Primal Scream & Mad Professor both do spectacular mixes... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:32:26 +0100 (British Summer Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Re Recoil and MA On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:27:51 -0500 Scott Stegenga wrote: > > >Speaking of Toni Halliday, can anyone confirm for me > >whether Curve have reformed and released a new single, or > >was I dreaming about hearing it on radio 'X' FM? > > > Curve has come back and have released a new album, 'Come Clean', which hits > alot more electronica than I think it should, but nonetheless, its still a > good CD. Toni and Dean make a great duo. They're going on tour soon with The > Dandy Warhols as the opener. They did a mini-tour earlier this year and I > saw it in Chicago...not bad. Thanks Scott, I thought I had finally lost the last thread of sanity I had left. It was doing my head in because I thought I heard their new single a few weeks ago, but wasn't sure. Toni and Dean are a great duo and I was a tad gutted when they split. Maybe they're trying to be a bit too trendy today!? Still, I'd like to hear the album soon. Did they do much of their old stuff when you saw them in Chicago? You can e-mail me privately about this if you want? TiM B. > --- > Scott Steg...I Love Carrots > "Please could you stop the noise I'm trying to get some rest... > from all the unborn chicken voices in my head." > - Radiohead > > - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:52:10 +0100 (British Summer Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Children I was watching Eddie Griifin's comedy hour on HBO the other day. His stage name / nickname is, you guessed it, Voodoo Child. He was hilarious when he was off the wall, when he did his stereotype acts, it was kind of lame. His impression of a white guy was of a stereotype of an uptight yuppie. Maybe I'm being silly, but it bothered me a little. However, his charades about black people were very funny to me. I wonder how a white comedian doing a caricature of a black guy would be received by a black person. Hmm. Well, I thought everyone was after equality these days? If that is the case, then black people making fun of white people should not be allowed either - if we're to be fair and consistent. Sometimes I think this 'political correctness' can be taken too far though. I think so-called 'positive discrimination' is bollox - it's still discrimination and all discrimination, no matter what race, religion, gender or sexuality you are is negative. 'Two wrongs don't make a right'; 'violence breeds violence' and all that.....'love spreads', forgiveness and common understanding, is the way forward people. TiM B. - ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:20:54 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: RE: (mobility) Voodoo Children >>Well, I thought everyone was after equality these days? If >>that is the case, then black people making fun of white >>people should not be allowed either - if we're to be fair >>and consistent. If, if, if... Although he used sterotypes that are not accurate portrayals, I am all for it whether it offends me or not. I beleive that the whole "don't offend these people and don't say this to them" thing is bad. It makes people too careful, unlikely to speak their mind at all because one tiny thing they say might......It discourages open communication which is the key to racial harmony. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:06:08 +0000 From: clayEV2k Subject: (mobility) jimmy puff poppy page > I can't believe you would even say something like that actually... > I don't even know what most of the artists I'm into look like > at all! For all I know they could ALL be black, who cares... > I don't listen to music to maintain an image of any kind, > I listen to enjoy the feeling and emotion behind it, and to > analyze what's going on for my own ideas on making music. > > At any rate, my question was...what does MA sound like? > Knowing I can't stand most hip-hop, would I like them??? > > paul > > well at any off-topic rate massive attack aren't new and almost anyone who has followed modern dance music of ANY sort should know who they are.......the fact that you don't isn't your fault i blame the industry who caters to only the sorts of labels rap techno cowboy metal mental blah blah massive attack are like moby in that they regularly defy labelling and truly work bewteen some serious lines read about them go to a used cd store and hear them for free mixmag rated their blue lines cd from some time ago as the most important dance album of all time maybe that's a clue and whether you like it or not maybe it's something you should investaigete even if it costs you a dime or tewo as you could do much worse>>>>>>>>>> good to see ya pumped i think the puff daddy/page thing sucks myself....as do you.... so.........? whaddayagonsay? it ain't an answer to nathin cept how are two too rich musical yokels gon milk more money out of an unsuspecting circus audience just cause they can........... it's like once you're stuck in the arena who's gon argue the price of popcorn>>>>>>> i'll take 2....just like everybody else but hey.....maybe moby likes it too?!!!!!! hasta clay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:13:07 +0000 From: clayEV2k Subject: Re: (mobility) Re Recoil and MA curve has new singles out chinese burn is okay but i welcome you all once agin to rekkit's fearless list > > fearless@onelist.com <<<<<<<<<<< where we always talk of massive attack curve lunatic calm lionrock asian underground talvin singh messiah and a dozen other things with no needing to apologize for being off topic> there are only about 10 of us there and we can talk about this sortof stuff without being rude to the moby purist in all of us>>>>>>> i invite you once again as i feel these off topics are getting outta control again and i know i'm somewhat to blame here and bad boy still! sorry 4 getting so off the topic! clay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:21:35 +0000 From: clayEV2k Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Children > If > that is the case, then black people making fun of white > people should not be allowed either - if we're to be fair > and consistent. i think if we can't laugh at each other then we'll never be able to laugh with each other and if we can't laugh wid each other then we gon hate each other and if we all hate each other brother we gon all kilt each other so laugh and laugh and laugh and man if ya gotsta run then better get on!!!!!! : ) cc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:00:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) stuff okay sorry i wasnt online in a few days... hmmm, for a whil i thought i was in trouble, with my name as the subject for a series of letters (dont scare me like that clay!!!) i dont think prince's music is all that great, but i do not at all in any way doubt that he is influential, talented, and can write some good music. i've only heard like his pop stuff, so maybe i might like his undaground stuff, maybe i dont know. and i love rap music. i mean, not all rap music (we all know how much i h8 puffy to deth) but like wu-tang rules, and like tribe called quest, and de la soul, j.beez, fugees, dr. octagon, prince paul, cypress hill, krs1, timbaland and magoo, bustah rhymes, damn, theres tons of great rap out there. of course theres bullshit like puffy and foxy brown and lil kim and stuff, but i think overall rap music is good. and like the more undaground tha better, i just mentioned more mainstreem groups. okay, on to moby (finally) sunday i unexpectedly went to the music store, and i bought...i bought......i bought.....ANIMAL RIGHTS W/ LITTLE IDIOT!!!! WOO HOO!!! It was 26fuckin$ but i had a $10 gift certificate PLUS a used cd PLUS my mom owed me some credit there (hanukkah present) so it was real cheap. Plus i bought "Endtroducing....." used for $8. FINALLY. i guess it was kind of a FINALLY kind of day. btw, theres a cool dj shadow website i found, called "Just Your Favorite DJ Saviour": about AR/LI: I thought these cds were cool. They were not as good, as diverse, or as memorable as EIW but they were still cool. it's funny, i was like singing along to AR, but like the only songs i remember the words and/or melody to are Revolver (well duh ive heard it like a million times) and for some reason Someone To love...and Come On Baby (from the cryst. meth. remix which i remember better than the original.) The ambient cd is pretty cool too. btw someone asked what that "moving cuz the crowd says so" sample was in ah-ah. in the ILTS liners it said it was "MC Shah-King". i didnt know that that was what he was saying, i was like, "movie's got the classics, what?" so thanks, it makes a lil sense now. okay bye, i know i'm forgetting something... == "Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in Italian restaurants with Oriental women." >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 19:40:42 -0400 From: rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) Subject: Re: (mobility) stuff >okay, on to moby (finally) >sunday i unexpectedly went to the music store, and i bought...i >bought......i bought.....ANIMAL RIGHTS W/ LITTLE IDIOT!!!! WOO HOO!!! >I so it was real cheap. Ok..so it seems your strutting your stuff cuz you got it for really cheap..So I must do the same..Cathy(my gf) called from Aukland last night to let me know how she was doing..Well...She found the Aus. version of JBT for me...for $4(US dollars)...Beats paying $10 here for import prices...I'll get to hear it next Tuesday(woo woo for me ;>) >btw someone asked what that "moving cuz the crowd says so" sample was >in ah-ah. in the ILTS liners it said it was "MC Shah-King". i didnt >know that that was what he was saying, i was like, "movie's got the >classics, what?" so thanks, it makes a lil sense now. Actually..I wasn't wondering who singing it..but if it was in there because of how Moby has felt in the past for the rave culture. I'm glad I could help though(Isn't it funny how each person can interpret a lyric? I've heard/seen about 5 different versions for the lyrics to Ministry's "Psalm 69" :) ) >"Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in >Italian restaurants with Oriental women." "In the morning, laughing happy fish heads. In the evening, floating in the soup." Dr. Demento rules! :) Ryan np: Mustard Plug: "Big Daddy Multitude" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor ICQ#: 1607223 rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Duhhh, don't do that! And stop with the wispery hissing, you sound like a Brian Eno record." -Pearl Forester to Observer =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:44:24 EDT From: Subject: (mobility) old record sale sorry, my mind's going ... who posted a message a short while back about a few moby 12"s they were trying to unload (Feeling So Real and either Barracuda or Brainstorm) ? please let me know privately. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 09:56:19 +0100 (British Summer Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Voodoo Children On Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:21:35 +0000 clayEV2k wrote: > > If > > that is the case, then black people making fun of white > > people should not be allowed either - if we're to be fair > > and consistent. > > i think if we can't laugh at each other then we'll never be able to > laugh with each other > and if we > can't laugh wid each other then we gon hate each other > and if we all hate each other > brother we gon all kilt each other > so laugh and laugh and laugh > and man if ya gotsta run then better get on!!!!!! > > I totally agree, but since people say it's politically incorrect to joke about one ethnic group, it's somehow ok to do it to another - that's hypocrisy. Personally I think we should forget all that shit and laugh WITH each other (as you say), without racist overtones. Peace, joy and laughter brother, TiM B. > : ) > > > cc > - ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 09:12:09 +0000 From: clayEV2k Subject: (mobility) friend of moby's last night i went to my singer's birthday party and there i met a woman who works for sony and knows moby and his close friends from elektra believe this if you will: she says moby is still with elektra even though it looked like the deal was over his new album from what people who have heard tracks is very hip hop and very almost pop oriented and from what the buzz is it will be absolutely awesome! she says that they are really really excited by everything that they've heard and well....... she is gonna try to get that hour of birth for me........still so anyways roomies i am certainly looking forward to that....yes! but who knows maybe she is misinformed we'll know soon enough though clay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM this site says about this movie called Porno that moby is involved in. courtesy of AP (Alt.press) == "Roly poly fish heads are never seen drinking Capuccinos in Italian restaurants with Oriental women." >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jun 1998 15:26:14 -0500 From: Ade Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM > The address is actually http://www.altpress.com/pag/news/news.html#news4. You forgot an extra 'l'. It's not actually a porn film is it? It sounds like it's just about porn. .oooO Oooo. --Ade. ( ) ( ) \ ( ) / adekunle@anderson.edu \_) (_/ http://picard.anderson.edu/~adekunle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 13:36:02 -0700 From: "Michaela Gerstner" Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM - -----Original Message----- From: Ade To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 1:26 PM Subject: Re: (mobility) MOBY INVOLVED IN PORNO FILM >It's not actually a porn film is it? It sounds like it's just about porn. no, it's not an actual porn film. there's a little tiny article about it in the current SPIN. moby says, in answer to a Q like that: ".. there's nothing really sexual about it, except that they're talking about dildos and butt plugs." he even has a role in it, and did the music. the article makes this sound really interesting. it's suppose to come out this christmas. so.. that's all i can tell you. the article is in their usual Coverage section, this one titled The Naked Truth. hope that helps! Blessed Be, Plovious http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3589/ ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V1 #173 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.