From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V1 #203 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Tuesday, August 18 1998 Volume 01 : Number 203 Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 (mobility) Moby discography updated Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 Re: (mobility)hi kevin/ambient hymn (mobility) Who? (mobility) EIW, to steve, good morning, etc. (mobility) So you want syrup.... Re: (mobility) So you want syrup.... (mobility) honey again Re: (mobility) honey again (mobility) Moby mixes for sale on vinyl (mobility) Moby on his DJ days Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 Re: (mobility) honey b-sides??? Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 Re: (mobility) Moby on his DJ days ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 14:13:01 -0400 From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 >first, a moby question: has anyone heard the 33.3333333 minute long remix of >hymn? i saw it in a record store and it looked interesting. i was going to >listen but the store has this bizarre rule that if you don't buy the first cd >you listen to, you can't buy anymore and i unfortunately didn't pick that cd >first. while it isn't rare, it's kinda hard to cum by in a real life records store... and it's FABULOUS! there are no beats. it's all ambiance. very spiritual. very good. i think that most anyone who likes moby would like this. >second, a non-moby question: crystal method is playing here (minneapolis) in a >few weeks and i was wondering if anyone has seen them play live? is it a good >show? morcheeba plays the same week - any reviews of their shows would be >groovy too. i've seen the crystal method live last year, and i got angry during the show. because they don't do much. they're fakers. the music sounded great. and the lights they brought with them for the show were super. but as far as having a stage presence, and entertaining a crowd....they are manilla. they never said anything during the show...never made any connection with their audience. just let the DAT roll on while playing with a knob or two. i've seen morcheeba live on tv, and they seemed great. i'd like to see them in person. at least they have some soul. crystal method are as moby once said about djs, "anal retentive white caucasian fucks". - -ryu ************************************************************** SHO RECORDS The World's First Non-Profit Record Label Specializing in Powerful Music http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/jwz109 ************************************************************** 724-869-0908 * Ryu * ryu97@psu.edu ************************************************************** Ryu 536 Daly Ave. Baden, PA 15005 ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:12:44 -0700 From: "Rekkit" Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 >first, a moby question: has anyone heard the 33.3333333 minute long remix of >hymn? i saw it in a record store and it looked interesting. i was going to It's gorgeous-get it asap ;) No beats, just a nice long "prayerful" track... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 01:38:45 -0600 From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) Moby discography updated Just wanted to let everyone know that the discography has been updated, quite extensively. A number of people contributed corrections and new material since March, and they have all been rolled into v3.95 of the Moby discography. There was no 3.94. There is so much new info that normally I would move the version number up 0.10. Unfortunately, I ran out of numbers! ;) But seriously, I am reserving 4.0 for a major over- haul of the discography layout. My original discography system has been outgrown by the huge volume of entries, and clearly needs a makeover. I want to rewrite it (yikes) using an attempt at Lazlo Nibble's format, or a slight variation thereof. Lazlo maintains a ton of discographies and has a popular, proven organization method. Further down the road, I'd like to make an XML version of the Moby discography. Anyways, some of the most notable new information is the inclusion of the Brotherhood 12" (thanks to Steve Giles), the new Pork Guys 7" (announced in June by James Carrier, but sorry I don't know the track listing yet), and a humense* list of remix and compilation information contributed by Keith Clancy. And all of the new UK "Honey" info has been added. Also, other people sent in various tweaks and additions. Whew! :) Since most of the past few months' additions were only incorporated now, it's possible I misplaced some email with info, or failed to give proper credit. If so, I'm sorry -- please re-send the info. Also, there are still a lot of question marks, blanks, and unknowns lurking around. Please email me any info/comments... By the way, there seems to be a little confusion about my email address. My current ISP is Verinet, but if I change ISPs in the future, that will change also. To minimize lost/misdirected email, I publish my alternate email address, dcerman@nyx.net, which I plan to keep for years to come. It currently forwards messages to dcerman@verinet.com, but will forward mail to wherever I can best receive it in the event of an email address change. Feel free to use either address. The Nyx one is not outdated. BTW2, let's not forget that Moby's birthday is coming up September 11! Now may be a good time to send him some mail. :) * [< humongous + immense]; word coined by Prof. John Clark in 1995 - --- Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:29:29 +0100 (British Summer Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 14:13:01 -0400 Ryu wrote: in person. at least they have some soul. crystal method are as moby once > said about djs, "anal retentive white caucasian fucks". > > -ryu Are all DJ's in the US white or something!? > TiM B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:50:10 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: RE: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 >>Are all DJ's in the US white or something!? Haha! No, Moby was referring to a certain stereotype which is commonly seen. anal-retentive bit referring to DJs who think that A)they are the shit and the world should show gratitude & B) that music, DJing, and 'the scene' all follow certain rules and everything must be just 'so'. The white caucasian bit is kinda just stuck on, as usually the party guilty is white. (ahem, Keoki) Crystal Method I can't say much about, but while their album 'Vegas' is entertaining, when it comes to aural variations they are lacking. It sounds like a remix single, they use the same sounds and structures and it wears thin. Their remixes for others are slightly better because the origin sounds are different. CM still makes them sound the same as their own, and boring, somehow. I like to hear them in a mix set or a rave, when I'm dancing or grooving, but not during a casual listening session. Moby is good for both! :) - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 08:44:10 -0700 From: plovious@juno.com (Michaela S Gerstner) Subject: Re: (mobility)hi kevin/ambient hymn welcome kevin! wow! i guess for most people Everything Is Wrong was their first moby experience! i know it was mine! you have a good collection started... i started w/ 2 CDs, EIW and Animal Rights. this list will help you with finding out other CDs and such. hope u have fun, kevin! *** and april, the long version of hymn is great! it's wonderful for meditation! you just float when listening to it! i love listening to it when i just want to relax. :) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:31:12 EDT From: Subject: (mobility) Who? Here is a question. Who are the Mobylettes? I have never heard or seen this group before today when I was searching for CDs. Anyway, does anyone know a place online where I can order the Honey CD and expect to get it before the end of August? Later. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:39:32 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: (mobility) EIW, to steve, good morning, etc. >>> >Believe it or not, I don't own a copy of Everything is Wrong! >>> Wow. I don't believe it. I thought owning at least EIW was a requirement to get on the list eh? :) So you're putting out $$$ for all these rare 12" albums and not that. It's my favorite Moby CD. Buy it before anything else! <<< Well, I'm going to place an order w/ Mute as soon as their pages are updated, accurate, and ready to order. I'd like a shirt 'n' hat, too. I want the EIW w/ Underwater. I listen to EIW, Ambient, & the EIWDJmix at a friend's house. I'm not idling on the Revolver #2 CD, tho. No way. Yeah, I can see how you would think I'm backwards for this, though. I'm looking for all sorts of weird things. >>> Orbital AFX Moby <<<< Yes! How about Moby / Underworld w/ Josh Wink spinning an opening set! Underworld last! Now that would be the show to be at. My ideal show. Yeeeawh. Lately, I just can't get enough of Patient Love (VC:EOE) & Hymn (Dirty Hypo) Good morning peeple! - -afternoon now, whatever, -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:35:45 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: (mobility) So you want syrup.... >>> Here is a question. Who are the Mobylettes? I have never heard or seen this group before today when I was searching for CDs. Anyway, does anyone know a place online where I can order the Honey CD and expect to get it before the end of August? Later. <<< Well Maybe this'll help. CDNOW: No listing yet Music Boulevard: No listing yet GEMM - has 2 Honey cds and 1 12" (private dealers? I think so) CD UNIVERSE: No listing yet Good luck! I don't think they'll come to on-line stores till the end of August, I doubt this release has high enough demand to be made a priority. You probably have to wait. :-< - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:26:02 EDT From: Subject: Re: (mobility) So you want syrup.... In a message dated 8/17/98 7:38:17 PM, Steve.Giles@digital.com writes: <> I may have misspelled it, but it was at all of the major online stores. Look up Moby and it will bring up them as a choice.... Later AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) honey again yeah i heard the rollo/bliss remix of honey again....from what i've heard of the original i think i like the remix better. but the remix sounds so much like faithless it probably doesnnt count as moby. on a different note, i was listening to Davo's show on WPKN sunday nite, some time around 2 am or so, and he played a mix of "injected with a poison" (by praga khan)and i was like "aw yeah this rocks!" (and after that he played some Schooly D and some sweet d'n'b') so when i woke up and went down stairs, i watched the amp tape, and...guess what...they played "injected with a poison"! now i'm not sure what time davo played it, but i think it was sometime between 2 and 3 am. okay, like, just in case anyone cares... bye yall == "Where's Maggie? Where's Maggie? I'm not kidding, I can't see, my retinas have detached again!"--Grampa Simpson >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:07:35 -0600 From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) honey again Paul Simpson wrote: > yeah i heard the rollo/bliss remix of honey again....from what i've > heard of the original i think i like the remix better. but the remix > sounds so much like faithless it probably doesnnt count as moby. Yeah, the R&SB remix is really different from the original track. The B-sides and other remixes are still nice to listen to once you have heard your fill of Honey. > on a different note, i was listening to Davo's show on WPKN sunday > nite, some time around 2 am or so, and he played a mix of "injected > with a poison" (by praga khan)and i was like "aw yeah this rocks!" "Injected With A Poison" is an awesome old track. I love it. Praga Khan has done a couple other good tracks too, but I haven't been able to get ahold of their best mixes. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:37:21 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: (mobility) Moby mixes for sale on vinyl Hello mobility! This record is the one I got last week w/ 3 Moby mixes on it, including the Moby mix 2 which is not found elsewhere. It is overpriced, but I'll bet you can talk him down 2 or 3 dollars. e-mail to purchase: rdarrah@mindspring.com David Bowie- Dead Man Walking Virgin 97, 4 mixes, white label promo, no pc, $10.00 Whoever gets this, please let me know. I'll stop posting cool buying opportunities if no one is taking advantage of them. No point, right? - -Steve Giles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:16:38 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: (mobility) Moby on his DJ days Moby's fave rex in 96 + some interview material on his DJ days. http://www.dotmusic.com/RMjockmoby.html http://www.dotmusic.com/RMjockindex.html - -S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:08:36 -0600 From: Damian Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 Ryu wrote: > > >second, a non-moby question: crystal method is playing here (minneapolis) in a > >few weeks and i was wondering if anyone has seen them play live? good show? > > i've seen the crystal method live last year, and i got angry during the show. > because they don't do much. they're fakers. the music sounded great. and > the lights they brought with them for the show were super. but as far as > having a stage presence, and entertaining a crowd....they are manilla. > they never said anything during the show...never made any connection with > their audience. just let the DAT roll on while playing with a knob or two. I guess I have a different point of view when it comes to the Crystal Method. I have heard criticisms for their technical abilities like Ryu mentions. But for those who are non technical, maybe ignorant, like myself... I'm enjoying the bliss. I've seen them twice now and neither time did I go to see them but the artists that they were on tour with. They rocked both shows and the audience had a huge reaction each time. The first performance was a bit too loud (very rare for me to say) and they broke down the music way too often... I wanted to keep dancing and they made that difficult. The second time I saw them perform was after seeing BT. The sound was perfect and they didn't break things down as often. I was surprised to see the audience get into their act more so than BT. However, BT is Better! Cheers! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:29:06 -0600 From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: (mobility) honey b-sides??? Ryu wrote: > since a few of you have had the chance to hear honey > and the remixes, i was wondering if anyone got to hear > the b-sides to the single? what are they like? Yes, I have the B-sides too. I'm listening to them now. :) They're good. "Micronesia" is a little bit like "Shining", but not too much. It's medium-fast with a sharp snare beat. It starts out with the beat and some bass. I thought I heard this beginning part in the new movie BASEketball, but I must've mistaken it for a different familiar-sounding song. A piano and some sort of pad or crystal-like sound comes in, and then strings. "Micronesia" would do well as a soundtrack. It makes me imagine flying low and fast over the ocean near south Pacific islands or something. You know, like that one scene from the beginning of Miami Vice? :) But better. After awhile, the drums and then the strings end, and then the rest. It's a nice piece. It didn't impress me too much when I first heard it, but I like it better now. "Memory Gospel" is the other "Honey" B-side. It's medium-slow, and I like it a lot. It's like the tracks from the Voodoo Child album, but with a subdued funky beat and some repeating "yeah" female vocal samples riding atop the music. Halfway through the song, Moby's trademark harmonic layered strings pour in, and it's just great (if you're in a mood to sit back and think). The song keeps intensifying, adding piano accentation and having the drums get louder, until the last 40 seconds, which are just the basic synth chords that the song started with and the vocal samples. It's very nice, a little bluesy, and I think it hints at the direction Moby will probably go with his next album (but don't quote me on that). Both B-sides have appropriate names that match the music well, and they round out this UK "Honey" single #1 well. I wish a remix would have been included on this CD, especially in light of the remix surplus, but nevertheless this is a disc worth getting, especially since there has been no indication that "Honey" will ever come out in the US. That brings another question to mind. There are Germans, Australians, French, etc. on Mobility, right? Well if anybody can find out anything about non-UK releases and promos, I'd be very interested to know. I'm going to be on the lookout for German CDs in particular, which I hope will include mixes not on the UK CDs. Well, I'm off to browse online music stores. Hope this message answers your question adequately, Ryu. Less than a week 'til release, folks! - --- Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:58:59 EDT From: Subject: Re: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #201 Yo, I love BT. I am going to the Crystal Method show in DC at the 9:30 club on Sept 13. Does anyone know if BT will be there (especially since it is only about 20 minutes from his house) cause that would be awesome. Or, if anyone else besides CM will be with them? I haven't even heard more than all the Crystal Method songs on every other commercial on TV, but the last concert I went to was 1985 on the same day - my birthday - and that was Michael JAckson. But he was awesome. Later. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:06:14 -0400 From: Ryu Subject: Re: (mobility) Moby on his DJ days At 06:16 PM 8/18/98 -0400, you wrote: >Moby's fave rex in 96 + some interview material on his DJ days. > >http://www.dotmusic.com/RMjockmoby.html >http://www.dotmusic.com/RMjockindex.html excellant! thank you! i've wondered about moby djing for so long. i've asked this several times before, but i'll ask again in case anyone new here knows anything. but does anyoen have any tapes of moby djing? like mix tapes? from back in the day? besides the eiw stuff and teh sven vath mixmag cd. thanks, ryu ************************************************************** SHO RECORDS The World's First Non-Profit Record Label Specializing in Powerful Music http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/jwz109 ************************************************************** 724-869-0908 * Ryu * ryu97@psu.edu ************************************************************** Ryu 536 Daly Ave. Baden, PA 15005 ************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V1 #203 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.