From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V1 #221 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Wednesday, September 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number 221 Re: (mobility) Wholelotta Honey (mobility) nederlanders (mobility) Share and share alike Re: (mobility) Honey! Re: (mobility) flesh Re: (mobility) flesh Re: (mobility) flesh Re: (mobility) flesh (mobility) I'm tired of seeing that subject header. Re: (mobility) flesh Re: (mobility) flesh (mobility) to buy or not to buy, what a silly question (mobility) thanks 2 Re: (mobility) flesh (mobility) Oh,man! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:44:01 EDT From: JadenX@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) Wholelotta Honey WHAT? I reposted the address for Replay records but when I ordered over 2 weeks ago they said that they were out of the 1st CD and it would take a few days to restock. I still haven't recieved anything!!! Anyway, how much did you end up paying? I calculated that it was less than 11 dollars (US) for both CDs and shipping. What's up with my order? I ordered them from the website and received no confirmation from them. I just received all 3 items in the mail. I will tell what i was charged when my CC statement comes. - -Carmen B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:57:57 +0200 From: Joris Munnik Subject: (mobility) nederlanders Are there any Dutch people around here? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:08:12 -0500 From: "Brad Caviness" Subject: (mobility) Share and share alike Are we trading collection lists again? Ok, here's mine. Go Remixes (Instinct) Drop A Beat (Instinct) Moby (Instinct) Next Is The E (Rough Trade) Early Underground (Instinct) Ambient (Instinct) Move EP (Elektra) Hymn [This Is My Dream] (Mute) Hymn [alt.quiet.version] (Mute) Voodoo Child - Higher/Desperate (Trophy) Feeling So Real Remixes (Elektra) Everytime You Touch Me (Mute) Everything is Wrong (Mute) Underwater (Mute) Into the Blue Remixes (Mute) Disk (Elektra) Lopez - Emptiness (Trophy) Lopez - Why Can't It Stop? (Trophy) Bring Back My Happiness (Elektra) Everything is Wrong DJ Mix Album (Mute) Voodoo Child - Dog Heaven (Trophy) V/A MixMag V.2 Sven Vath and Moby V/A - School House Rock Rocks! [Verb! That's What's Happening] (Lava) Rare (Instinct) Go (Instinct) That's When I Reach for My Revolver (Mute) That's When I Reach for My Revolver Remixes (Mute) Animal Rights (Mute) Little Idiot (Mute) Come On Baby Ltd. Ed. 2-cd (Mute) That's When I Reach For My Revolver [b/w Whip It] 7" (SubPop) Animal Rights (Elektra) That's When I Reach For My Revolver (Elektra OZ) Voodoo Child - The End of Everything (Elektra/Trophy) I Like To Score (Elektra) Jesus [bootleg best-of cd-r] Thanks (Mobility) V/A Music from the Motion Picture Senseless [Graciosa] (Gee Street) Some Outtakes and Stuff [100min cassette] (bootleg) V/A RIM v.beta [Dog Heaven (Extended Edit)] (Bigwig Enterprises) Honey (Mute) Honey Remixes (Mute) Collected mixes/rare tracks [2hour DAT] (bootleg) Brad S. Caviness, Ricochet Bigwig Ricochet Internet Music Magazine (http://www.ricochetmusic.com) bigwig@ricochetmusic.com "I am a cipher wrapped in an enigma smothered in a secret sauce." -- Jimmy James, "News Radio" "The best way to communicate should be banging on a drum and screaming." -- Moby, musician. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:12:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Freak Subject: Re: (mobility) Honey! Just curious....how's the rest of the soundtrack? danielle On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Jake M. wrote: > > I finally heard all of honey. I really like it, and its been stuck in my > head since 3:30 am this morning. I was suprised to find it. I was > looking for a cd to play for my radio show and picked up the Permanent > Midnight Sndtrk, I did not know the song was on there, but I was really > thrilled to finally here it. I think it is very different from what moby > has done, but I think that is good. > Anyway, on another note, I remember someone here posted a message > dealing with a website where you can pick songs that you can put on a cd > and have it mailed to you, does anyone still have that address. I was > looking for it, but could not find it. Thanks a lot. > > Jake > *still humming Honey as I type away in the Lab* > -- http://www.angelfire.com/co/rockman/index.html -- > "The unexamined life is not worth living"-Plato > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:22:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Freak Subject: Re: (mobility) flesh Hi again. i guess I should check all my messages first before replying to some. sorry to ask AGAIN about the soundtrack...I didn't know others have asked so please ignore it...sorry for the extra mail. Ok...now, I do hate to admit it...but I did become a vegetarian about two years ago, mostly under Moby's influence. I don't like to admit it because it makes me feel like a follower...but however, it was my decision to make...he was just a big influence...AND I'm also kind of a cheater. I'm what they call a pesco-vegetarian....i eat fish...I can't help it I'm a sucker for sushi. I'm curious to know the answer to this question myself. later, danielle On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, krwilson wrote: > Just wondering, how many of you people have given up eating flesh because > of Moby? > > > > > > > How many have considered? > > > > > Scoffed? > > > > > > MO > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:22:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Freak Subject: Re: (mobility) flesh Hi again. i guess I should check all my messages first before replying to some. sorry to ask AGAIN about the soundtrack...I didn't know others have asked so please ignore it...sorry for the extra mail. Ok...now, I do hate to admit it...but I did become a vegetarian about two years ago, mostly under Moby's influence. I don't like to admit it because it makes me feel like a follower...but however, it was my decision to make...he was just a big influence...AND I'm also kind of a cheater. I'm what they call a pesco-vegetarian....i eat fish...I can't help it I'm a sucker for sushi. I'm curious to know the answer to this question myself. later, danielle On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, krwilson wrote: > Just wondering, how many of you people have given up eating flesh because > of Moby? > > > > > > > How many have considered? > > > > > Scoffed? > > > > > > MO > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:08:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Freak Subject: Re: (mobility) flesh Last message swear. My apologies for sending my message twice. don't know how I did that. ok i'm done with filling your inboxes with junk :) danielle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:08:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Freak Subject: Re: (mobility) flesh Last message swear. My apologies for sending my message twice. don't know how I did that. ok i'm done with filling your inboxes with junk :) danielle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:25:43 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: (mobility) I'm tired of seeing that subject header. Here's why. The 'To' line is who the message is addressed to. The 'Cc' is for other people who should get the e-mail even though it's not to them. You're sending it twice because you have both of these in there. Just use one of them, they both accept e-mail for mobility. To: mobility@lists.xmission.com Cc: Mobility@xmission.com Expect another Moby retail guide from me today. I found the mother of all Moby stores. Your US Move 12' is in there, looks like, Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:42:51 EDT From: Spydercorp@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) flesh The reason I didn't want to talk about this subject is not because anyones feelings would get hurt. If you feel abused or neglected or whatever because of email, well then you have big issues than what to eat for dinner. I didn't want to talk about it because our mailboxes get flooded - and the emails are much longer than normal. IT can be good, but I don't see it with this topic that cannot get solved. Animals are made of meat, and so are humans. Unfortunatly, they are always out of human when I go to the butcher. I guess I have to wake up earlier. And I'll tell you what. Say you were living your whole life to one day be the first person on MARS. you knew you would never come back because you were going to die after a day there. But that was your only purpose. To send back video footage. Whatever. Those live their life just to get fed to us. They don't have a bad life, the sit and eat good food. I don't know how they die, but there are plenty of ways to kill them that are not painfull at all. It doesn't matter if they want to or not. It isn't like Bessy was going to find the cure for Mad Cow Desease or something. They serve their purpose. If their treatment is the issue, I hope none of you vegetarians have dogs. Maybe you should go out to a puppy mill one day. Anyway, I am going up for a ham sandwich. Oh yea, ou are right that this has more relevance to anything than Ken Starr. If those damn republicans would just mind their own business. And about God creating animals with meat, I don't believe in God, so that is not my basis for that either. And finally, I just wanted to say that Steve and the new/old guy have got more Moby that Moby knows about and that is so awesome, but you should now look back at everything and calculate how much you payed for it. Later. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 23:51:23 -0400 From: "Johan Jaatinen" Subject: Re: (mobility) flesh >Just wondering, how many of you people have given up eating flesh because >of Moby? Me too. I considered Moby's arguments four years ago, became a vegetarian, and since one year I'm a vegan and an animal rights activist. (Environmentalist as well...) Cheers, Johan. _________________________________________________________________________ Johan Jaatinen, Umea, Sweden johan.jaatinen@mp.se / agape@gargamel.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:59:01 -0400 From: Steve Giles Subject: (mobility) to buy or not to buy, what a silly question >>If you feel abused or neglected or whatever because >>of email, well then you have big issues than what to eat for dinner. >>look back at everything and calculate how much you payed for it. AJ: Easy captain. You may beleive what you like, but that last post was screaming bitterness, anger, and negativity. I like collecting Moby music and I like hearing it even more, and my financial situation is A-OK. Is this too good to be true? http://www.alternativemusic.com (Lakeshore Exchange) Moby --- All I Need is to be Loved (promo 4 track) --- CD single --- 9.99 Moby --- Ambient --- CD --- 14.99 Moby --- Animal Rights (2 CD Set) --- CD --- 20.99 Moby --- Bring Back My Hapiness --- 12" --- 9.99 Moby --- Come On Baby + 5 tracks --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- Disk - cd rom --- CD --- 14.99 Moby --- Early Underground --- CD --- 14.99 Moby --- Everything Is Wrong --- CD --- 14.99 Moby --- Feelings So Real (9 tracks) --- CD single --- 11.99 Moby --- Feeling So Real + 3 Tracks --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- Feeling So Real Remixes + 3 Tracks --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- Go (5 Mixes) --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- Go (6 remixes) --- CD single --- 11.99 Moby --- Hymn + 3 Tracks --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- Hymn (Alt Quiet Version) --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- I Like To Score --- CD --- 13.99 Moby --- Into The Blue + 3 Mixes --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- Into The Blue Remixes (6 Mixes) --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- James Bond Theme (5 Remixes) --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- James Bond Theme (8 mixes) --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- Moby --- CD --- 14.99 ****Moby --- Move --- 12" --- 9.99 Moby --- Move EP --- CD --- 10.99 Moby --- Rare: the Collected B-Sides w/Go remix cd --- CD --- 16.99 Moby --- That's When I Reach For My Revolver --- 12" --- 9.99 Moby --- That's When I Reach For My Revolver + 3 Tracks --- CD --- 9.99 Moby --- That's When I Reach For My Revolver Remix + 3 Tracks --- CD - --- 9.99 Voodoo Child --- Dog Heaven + 2 Tracks --- CD --- 9.99 Voodoo Child --- End of Everything --- CD --- 14.99 Voodoo Child --- Higher --- 12" --- 9.99 Voodoo Child --- Higher +2 Tracks --- CD --- 10.99 Lopez --- Emptiness + 1 Track --- CD --- 9.99 Lopez --- Why Can't It Stop + 2 Tracks --- CD --- 9.99 Those are two letter v's below there, not a 'w'. http://www.vvinyl.com (Vintage Vinyl) (I've only listed notables) Voodoo Child - Dog Heaven Lopez - Emptiness Everything Is Wrong Remix 2CD Feeling So Real (domestic and import) Everytime You Touch Me (domestic & import) Into The Blue (both import singles) Revolver 7" JBT mixes (don't know which) ****Honey (both import singles, 9.99 each, US vendor!!! NJ) http://www.gemm.com This place is sketchy, lots of different people & vendors selling stuff together. If anybody gets the Basement Rock deal be sure totell the rest of us about it. ATINITBL CD (mixes or Shining/New Dawn/Spencermix???) Basement Rock 12" Honey (I recommend against ordering this here. Too much annoying processing hassle with Gemm, this place is really annoying from what I can sumrise, you order from Gemm, they order from vendor, vendor ships to Gemm, Gemm ships to you. Or something close to this. Big pain in the ass) I Feel It Drop A Beat Ultimate Go Revolver Remixes other singles http://www.secretsounds.com/ ATINITIBL 7" JBT 12" That's it for now. I've passed over many places that have generic stuff that you can get anywhere. Have a nice tension-free day if possible, everyone. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:56:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) thanks 2 hey thanks 2 could be a good idea. i would like to contribute but i aint such a good musician. mine would end up on the rejects disc ;) or something. i mean, i could do a really lo-fi kinda thing. well, not now, when i get some equipment. which might not be for a while. but this won't come out for a while, if it does, so i got time. i'm kinda iffy on sharing my ideas cuz some 1 might steal em, but my idea is starting out like Orbital's "Dwr Budr" and then covering NITE in an ambient version, and then reverting back to a full-on cover of "Dwr Budr". interesting, eh? but i dont have any equipment. i have so many ideas and titles but no equipment. yet. plus all i have is a sony tape recorder to record on. so it would be REAAAAAL Lo-fi. anyone who heard my first demo (like only 2 people...i have GOT to buy some blanks and make more copies...) knows what i mean. oh well bye. == "Where's Maggie? Where's Maggie? I'm not kidding, I can't see, my retinas have detached again!"--Grampa Simpson >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:50:15 -0400 From: "D Bergstrom" Subject: Re: (mobility) flesh >Just wondering, how many of you people have given up eating flesh because >of Moby? Hey, This may be sorta weird, cause this is an email from two, yes count 'em, TWO different people at the same time. Jennafur, who has posted something, and Kelly, who well... has been lazy and just reading everything and not posting anything. :P Anyway, we thought we'd both give our comments about the Moby maybe influencing us to become veggies quesstions. Kelly: Actually I made the choice to become a vegetarian about a week before i was introduced to Moby's amazing music (suck up points!!! heh) and he was one of the reasons that I started to dabble in veganism. So, maybe he did influence me a *little* bit, his facts and essays did give me the kick in the butt to actually pay attention to what I was putting into my body, but it was more or less my own decision to stop eating animal products. Right now I'm a lacto-vegetarian, cause of a few reasons, but I still think eggs are WRONG. (but that's just my opinion. not trying to change anyone else's views. to each his own.) Other moby fans I know are still meat eaters. I dont think Moby really has THAT much control over anyone. If people go veggie after reading what moby has to say, they probably were thinking about stuff like this for a long time in the back of their head. Generally, Moby followers aren't dumb enough to just follow things blindly unlike SOME people *coughSPICEGIRLSFANScough* (jen sez ditto). peace. Jennafur: I became a "veggie" after doing a biology debate on milk as the perfect food (i was against milk as the perfect food). It was what I learned about the animal husbandry and ethics that really gave me the umph to go veggie. Before I knew the facts I was more or less ignorant. I would have become a veggie a long time before I did, had I the knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes in the food industry. I liked Moby's points, and they were a help for me convincing my family to let me go veggie, but in the end the self control to actually become a vegetarian was my own. Any questions or comments? ________________________________________ Popularity is kinda like Tupperware: expensive plastic that's sold at parties. -Anon. ________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:46:01 -0600 From: "krwilson" Subject: (mobility) Oh,man! Oh,man! i just got done reading all of those responses to thanks 2 and flesh.................................................hmmmmmm............... ..........most of you surprised me with your open-mindedness on a subject I usually get brow-beaten on. I don't think i'll talk about this anymore. I realize now that people are able to rationalize any behavior, no matter how cruel. Cows are kept in cages barely big enough to hold them-let alone move around. People who work in "livestock production"(VERY pc name for this barbary) do cruel and unusual things to the poor animals that would make you sick. I have read books on the subject and have heard stories about this. People throw live baby chickens into meat grinders to feed the other animals. One of my friends knew a guy who worked at a slaughterhouse, and he said some of the guys would take perverse pleasure in torturing the animals before finally killing them. If you pay for meat, you directly support animal cruelty of the most atrocious kind. I say don't pay for something if you don't believe in it. As for having to get new friends etc., will power is created out of thin air--you can do anything you want if you decide it is right. As for people who think this topic has gotten too far away from Moby, I would bet anything he would be more impressed with our discussions on moral issues than he ever could be by listing hard-to-find moby tracks. I have nothing against anything posted here, but i like to get into deep matters from time to time. As i said, this is my final word on the subject. I hope it at least got one person thinking................. On the subject of thanks 2, I was very encouraged by the enthusiasm for the idea. Maybe if I(and possibly some one else) can do the whole DAT thing, and ryu can do the cd/copyright thing, and we all do some tracks, we could do one every year. I'm sure a few people who did the first one are smiling saying "Just try one and see if you ever want to do it again", but you people don't know how much i love producing, writing, anything to do with music. It's not all fun, but I love a challenge. Lets keep kickin' around ideas. Sorry for the heavy content, but a good dose of the truth only hurts you if you let it. MO ------------------------------ End of mobility-digest V1 #221 ****************************** ------------- To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo@xmission.com with the line "unsubscribe mobility-digest" in the body.