From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V1 #380 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Tuesday, April 27 1999 Volume 01 : Number 380 Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2 (mobility) Rolling stone's review of Moby sucked! Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2 (mobility) milkshake surprise (mobility) Run On Review... RE: (mobility) profile stuff/gossip (mobility) Peace offering.......... Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2 (mobility) um... Re: (mobility) OK Re: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame wars"... (mobility) hello. (mobility) alright!!!!!!! (mobility) what are you people doing???? Re: (mobility) what are you people doing???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:47:53 EDT From: Chilidiba9@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2 i just bought the new underworld cd and i noticed that it is distributed by V2 records...is this record company known for distributing dance albums or is this fairly recent..elie..by the way..i guarantee you that Moby will be at WOODSTOCK 99... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:43:50 -0600 From: "krwilson" Subject: (mobility) Rolling stone's review of Moby sucked! Here is the disgusting blurb from Rolling stone about my FAVORITE cd: "Moby's first major-label album didn't seem promising at first- a bald little techno dude trying his arty hand at pop-song form, new-age movie music, and blues-metal guitar. But Everything is Wrong turned out to be one amazing record, mixing up styles with earnest curiosity and that rarest of techno-dude traits, a sense of humor. 'Feeling so Real' and 'Everytime you touch me' are stunning disco(?) anthems, while the mellow passages roam from Eno-like lyricism to classical gas. Moby buzzes with excitement, a christian club kid who can't stop raving about the DJ who saved his life last night and can't wait to tell the story in sounds." If you couldn't tell, this totally pisses me off, but then again- Rolling stone doesn't understand electronic music. This "bald little techno dude" is the most unbelieveable person whose incredible compassion and empathy are easily seen even from LINER NOTES. DJ shadow got a bigger spread than MOBY! I like DJ shadow, but c'mon! His music rarely if ever touches my soul. The only Drum 'n' bass producer that DOES touch my soul is Rob Haigh(Omni Trio). I don't count Aphex twin and Mu-ziq 'cause they aren't strictly drum 'n' bass. Hope everyone enjoys reading this. MO ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:30:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Freak Subject: Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2 Seriously? Moby will be at Woodstock 99? I was going to get tickets but there was nobody I really really wanted to see...(although there are a lot of great bands.) But if MOBY is going to be there....is he performing or just roaming around? Where did you get this info? Please get back to me!!!! This is good news!!!! thanx in advance, danielle On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 Chilidiba9@aol.com wrote: > i just bought the new underworld cd and i noticed that it is distributed by > V2 records...is this record company known for distributing dance albums or is > this fairly recent..elie..by the way..i guarantee you that Moby will be at > WOODSTOCK 99... > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:32:15 PDT From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) milkshake surprise http://www.rollingstone.com/content/artists/M/Moby/images/IM008532.JPG Hello everybody! The split single coming up from V2 is pretty neat looking. The cover shows both of the recent UK #1 CDs sitting on a wood surface. (maybe a new workbench?) (orange pumpkin cover, mousetrap w/ red background cover) You can see the grain and the knots in the wood clearly. The Honey single is on top, in the center, and the Run On single is on the bottom, also center. In the upper left it says 2XMOBY is big letters, and HONEY RUN ON is smaller letters underneath. The letters are all in the new Moby block font, and all are also black except for MOBY which is brown. The CD itself is chocolate brown, (milk not dark) and the copyright info & MOBY are in strawberry milkshake pink. HONEY RUN ON is in white. (vanilla, perhaps?) Maybe that remix album for Play that Moby has mentioned should be called FOOD. Better yet, FLAVOR. There's Honey, (pumpkin pie, pumpkin seeds) Run On, (ketchup & mustard), and now the split single. (chocolate, strawberry, & vanilla) For those of you who have already bought both Honey & Run On UK CDs, this CD still has something of interest to you. Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey mix was previously only on 12", and the Moby Young & Funky Mix of Run On was only on a promo CD and the commercial release 12" which came out yesterday. Also, Sharam Jey's Always On The Run mix is otherwise only on the German 12", which also released yesterday. It's nice to see these mixes on CD, because so many great remixes get lost in obscurity because of vinyl only releases. 1. Honey (Album Mix) 3:27 2. Honey (Moby's 118 Mix) 4:48 3. Honey (Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix)6:41 4. Honey (Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix) 6:21 5. Run On (extended) 4:25 6. Run On (Moby's Young & Funky Mix) 6:03 7. Run On (Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix) 5:59 8. Memory Gospel 9:03 Oh yeah, it's got a little Play sticker on the cellophane. The Honey / Run On 12" doesn't have a picture sleeve, unlike the UK 12"s. Theres a big sticker along the top, though, and it's in a silver/white/grey V2 sleeve. It feels like a 180 gram pressing, it's very thick and heavy vinyl. It has the same color scheme on the sticker (the milkshake flavor/colors) and it also has the same little PLAY in stores June 1 sticker that the CD has. I'll review the CD soon, it'll be a lengthy post. - -Steve Nature To each his own Mutual respect PS The energy at the Underworld concert last night was INTENSE! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:30:39 -0500 From: Electronic Pulse Info Subject: (mobility) Run On Review... Hi all.. We put up a review on Run On today, it can be found @ http://www.electronicpulse.com/reviews/ Also, seeing that a few ppl. on the list have spoken to moby, is there an real news on a tour? I'm not speaking about the 'dj' thing he does, rather, an actual tour? Cheers! Bri - -- http://www.electronicpulse.com Streaming electronica, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week! - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:34:25 -0500 From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (mobility) profile stuff/gossip >I want to say one thing. Chris Kloehr ( that's your name, right?) >I hope you haven't left the list for this. You were just being HONEST. No I have not left the list....My love for the music is too great. And hey- we all have room to improve, right? (pointing to myself) >I don't agree with Chris's view too, and I think he should have been more >tactfulgiving his opinion about a sensitive subject like sexual preference, >but who am I (and who are you) to condemn him for this? Thank you...and I agree, it was definately the wrong way to go about this. Obviously I should have stayed lurking in the shadows.... CK np: Cassius "Supa Crush" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:02:35 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Tim Beecher Subject: (mobility) Peace offering.......... Okay, I think we've all had enough of this subject now. I don't mind Chris saying he didn't understand, Bart. But I think small-mindedness should be condemned and I don't think it's very 'brave' as you put it. It's easy to condemn people who are different though. It was insulting to me anyways. I was wrong to retaliate, but I also wanted to try to get some understanding because many people have completely the wrong idea and condemn gay people to hell for it! That's what really pisses me off. It's not too hard to understand when you try and listen. However, I accept Chris' apology and if he's not too scared to write to me in private, then I can try and explain (if he wants to understand). But if he doesn't want to, then that's fine too. We've still got freedom of choice, I hope? TMB - ---------------------- Tim Beecher Cranfield University T.Beecher@Cranfield.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:02:08 -0700 From: "the bergstroms" Subject: Re: (mobility) underworld/moby=V2 > i just bought the new underworld cd and i noticed that it is distributed by > V2 records...is this record company known for distributing dance albums or is > this fairly recent..elie..by the way..i guarantee you that Moby will be at > WOODSTOCK 99... really? he's not on the list of performers... i was planning on going anyway. i want to see rage and the hip and a few others... but this will make it even better. keep us posted! - -kelly ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:52:53 -0500 From: "tommy" Subject: (mobility) um... hi there. so i was bored again and i made a moby cursor that is like the one on the http://moby.org/fans.html except i made it for a winamp skin i've been working on for a long time only i found that winamp does not support animated cursors. imo, the cursor is cool as hellfrozovr. it's green. it's the old moby logo. when it spins there are lighting effects that make it reflect lighter and darker it looks and is very 3d. made it with xara3d, macromedia flash, & some randomly downloaded icon makin program. it was made with the technobats font i downloaded a while back from some NIN page. if you downloaded the oldr cursor and use it i suggest you look at the one i've made. it is a zipped/animated cursor about 16kb. http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/manicur.zip i have yet to make a web page to host it. i'm very curious as to thanks II's what and whenabouts. the track i submitted or mentioned i'm not so sure is very worthy a track for me to submit so i retract it. to i think about it i made it in only a few hours (0k maybe like five) because i remember having said i would submit a track and that i haven't followed up on it at least as some may have noticed or not. it dont convey the respect i have for his work. it is the first track that i have actually "finished". if you haven't heard it or downloaded it and are considering- http://members.tripod.com/~g0Dzinx/gu-hymn.mp3 i'm going to remove it from my server in a day or two. of course i would like to hear opinions on it even if you think it is no thing. hell. just if you like it or not? you can add it to the bottom of your post to mobility or a short personal? it would probably mean a lot to me. i have heard nothing of thanks II in a while. i know that Ade is still accepting cover/insert art submissions @: http://picard.anderson.edu/~adekunle/mobility/ personally i dont mind at all how long this is taking. it gives me a chance to make something better for it. as time passes i'm growing more and more when it comes to music more then i can believe sometimes-much thanks to MOBY and this list. so?.. is anybody willing to talk about tracks they're thinkin' about submitting? have any samples. i really want to hear something or see that somebody still has t2 or maybe even 3 on their minds. - --- i can't wait to hear a longer version of Down Slow. moby's growing up i think. the beauty and innocence or feeling he can convey is amazing. i can't wait to hear music of his if/when\after he has a kid. hasta-- tommy _______________________________________________________________________ TeleBot: World's Premier FREE Voicemail, Fax, Email, and Paging Service Connecting Everyone, Everywhere for FREE! http://www.telebot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:50:26 EDT From: UHF@aol.com Subject: Re: (mobility) OK In a message dated 4/26/99 9:08:31 PM Central Daylight Time, miyagi@tke.att.ne.jp writes: << Is there one person on this list besides me who just listens to Moby's music because they like it? >> I'm with you a 100% on this one. Sure, i read the liners, but then i go eat a hamburger. It just so happens that I saw Moby at the House of Blues and really liked his music and started to buy his CD's. I really think that some people on this list read too deeply into his music, but hey, why not? If someone enjoys it and can do it, more power to them. I know that I don't post very often, and it's because I don't analyze his music and/or lifestyle. I think that people should just chill out, turn off the lights, lay down, and enjoy Moby's music for what it is, music, really great music. Thanks Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:28:25 -0700 (PDT) From: BRIAN HOVEY Subject: Re: (mobility) Giving a whole new meaning to the term "flame wars"... > Feel free to flame away. > Matos Yo Matos, You are the man!!!! Any one who has to take the shit that Chris is dealing out of his arse, has got to be stupid! Man what does it matter if your gay or stright you are here for one reason and one reason only. The way that I see it gay bashing (which is what I saw this as), can only lead to hurt and as we have seen in the past the passing of a person who has done no harm to you at all. You know it kills me how some people will stand up for some of the things that Moby says and writes about and then back down when they dont see it PC to agree. Hey Chris FUCK YOU, man I have seen bigger brains come from my cat. Have a nice life, Karma catches up mighty quick. Bri === _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: christian Subject: (mobility) hello. i've been kistening since last night but couldnt get my emails to post. when i do - i have something to say to you freakin' people. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: christian Subject: (mobility) alright!!!!!!! i'm in!! and i meant listening. look out-i'm typin up that message for you now. peace. love. christian _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:13:50 -0700 (PDT) From: christian Subject: (mobility) what are you people doing???? as i stated in previous post-i have been listening since last night....and i am blown away!! you are not getting it!! ok-i'll get back to that. but first, a little about who i am and what lead me to this list. i have been listening to moby since way back..i bought the go 12" singles as they came out. i obsessed over the mans music for years. up until animal rights-and then i lost interest. mostly i think because i just needed a moby break-but partly becasue i just didnt like it as much as anything else he had done. still have'nt purchased i like to score either-i have a lot of it already. but i heard honey and loved it-and have now purchased run on(spirit is dope!!!) and love it too. wjile listening to these songs i remembered how much i loved mobys' music. i searched for moby on my yahoo! and ended up here!! were i hope to have many wonderful discussions about both moby's music and the social issues which seem to be circulating around this list. NOW!!!!!back to the real issue here. i am a 27 year old white heterosexual male. who happened to get involved with a group of girls(women now). who like to have sex with women. but occasionally -the like to have a man(i.e. dick). that would be me. now this lead me to try the occasional dick myself. this has,not happened in years. and i am still very close friends(or lover) with many of the people involved. some of the people involved couldnt handle it and they moved on-happily:) which is my point-HAPPINESS!! all i see you people doing is pointing out why your way or your view or your opinion is better. and thats not the fuckin point. the point is that our planet is going to shit. global warming-deforistation-over population-landfills are full and most of the people on this planet dont have a clue how to recycle/reuse properly. there are hundreds if not thousands of excuses people use to be prejudiced-the last thing we need to be doing is tearing each other apart for something that we do(for the most part)in the privacy of our own homes. this huge discussion you guys(i would use names but i dont know everyone-or anyone-yet)have been having is all finger pointing. turn that finger around and look at yourself...... we all(including myself-i am not trying to be holier than thou here)need to try and be more understanding of all people. race,creed,color,sex,"sexual orientation",social class(and any other stupid way you can think of to seperate us) should not be an issue. we are all human beings!!! wether or not someone(male 0R FEMALE!) takes it in the butt should have nothing to do with how you deal with that person on a individual basis(unless, of course, you want to put it in there butt). we need to spend more time dealing with the real issues involved in saving our planet so that in the future there will still be a planet to hang around on. ok-so enough of that shit! lets be happy:) shall we! lets talk some moby people! there is a certain vibe about certain moby songs that gives me that certain funny feeling inside. love to discuss this if anyone is interested. shining-next is the e-gmotfotw-would be three examples-all different in style-but there all vibin' also to respond to some of the other things i've read. rolling stone doesnt know shit about shit anymore!!whatever is popular is what there talking about this week. and if they do cover something other than mainstream rock/pop-they usually sound lame!! that same person mentioned moby touching there soul-i would like to throw orbital in there-the new album is grand-check it! some orb. bjork bjork bjork!!!!! and richard d james. not just for his stuff-but for bringing the entire rephlex posse to the universe!! liela makes me cry-buy her stuff. and global goon-good stuff! ok-if you read this far-THANKS!!! i hope to talk to many of you for a good time to come! right now i am at work:( wil be here until 9:00 pm pst if anybody has time to respond this evening. peace. love. christian _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:07:25 +0900 From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (mobility) what are you people doing???? Hey Christian, great to have you, but do us all a favor and cool it with the two prepost-posts that are alluding to what are coming ahead. That would be great. And you don'thave to fix your spelling mistakes either. Anyway, yea, the new Orbital is really good, but for me it is missing some finishing touch. I don't know what it is. I still like Green / 1 and Brown / 2 the best. Anyway, I am going to see if the Run On has made it over to Japan yet, as it seems to be getting decent reviews. But anyway, I am sure you will fit in here Christian, so don't be shy (apparently your not) but don't go crazy either. Later. 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