From: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com (mobility-digest) To: mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: mobility-digest V1 #382 Reply-To: mobility Sender: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-mobility-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes mobility-digest Wednesday, April 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 382 (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #381 (mobility) A: I am doing this. (mobility) fuck rs (mobility) Scala 19-20-May (mobility) Anthem from EIW (mobility) US single review: Honey and Run On (mobility) James Bond Single (mobility) hi all! Re: (mobility) Scala 19-20-May Re: (mobility) fuck rs (mobility) re:c is for cookie & mobolity-digest vi #381 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:06:42 PDT From: "Android M" Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #381 konichiwa, agreed. parties were better in 'the good old days'. much more open mindedness. and I remember far more diversity too. it was at these early 90's parties where I first heard moby, 808 state, RSW, etc. can anyone tell me if the James Bond theme remix cd single is worth buying? welcome, christian. are you in the city? I'm currently living in Marin. jyane, - --andrew _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:44:31 PDT From: "Steve Giles" Subject: (mobility) A: I am doing this. AJ wrote: >What is >the deal ith everyone latetly releasing 2 different singles of the >same song? >Has this been going on for ever? Not forever, but for a long time. All the EIW singles were split, remember? Into The Blue actually had 3 UK singles, since they changed the tracklistings on #1 to cut Shining and add the Jr. Vasquez mixes. >So anyway, Run On. Basically, it sucks. About the same level >as Honey. Can't >totally remember Honey but since I don't really want to put it in, I >won't >remember. Sounds like you made a rush judgement on Honey and quickly forgot about it. Ditto w/ Run On. The thing is, everybody I've heard from was shocked and disoriented upon first hearing Run On. At first, it is very strange. If you don't immediately discriminate against the song elements, you'll find that both of them are REALLY GREAT SONGS! Give them some more listens before you decide to hate them. >I think Honey and Run on should have been conbined not on >the same >single in America but into the same song. Definatly didn't need to be >extended. Sure it needed to be extended. I like the extra harmony & synth out. I also think the way Moby samples a little "Yup" right after the last "god almighty gonna cut you down" at the end is funny. H & RO combined together? That's a silly thing to say. Unless, of course, you're making it for Thanks 2. Imagine "All That I Need Is A Morning Dove", or "Everytime You Feel So Real." "The Slight Return Of God Moving Over The Face Of The Shining Sea." "Living On A Dead Walnut" Ouch. I don't think you're going to like Natural Blues, AJ. AJ, the track listing for Play is at moby.org, as always. Spirit and Micronesia are not on the album. A much shorter Down Slow is on there, however. Welocme to the list, Christian & Russ! Kohut, thank YOU for putting up with US! I'm glad you're helping Moby get some exposure in Slovakia. My friend Tom gave me a big big flyer for the Transformation party that Moby spun at on April 17th in Ohio. I'm putting it up on my wall next to my giant ETYM poster and my embroidered logo shirt. He also gave me a spacer for my 7"s. Very cool, good mood. :) - -S "It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness." _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simpson Subject: (mobility) fuck rs fuck rolling stone. they may have said EIW is one of the essential albums, but they said KLF's "Justified And Ancient" was the number 1 song that they stil cant believe happened. huh???? KLF RULES!!!!!! fuck them. of course they didnt say Goldie was essential. then again, theyve never ever said one good thing about Goldie anyway, so fuck them. at least they gave Beulah a good review. there new cd ROCKS. i also would like to say that my pal dj pal Rod Richardson is a Moby fan! i discovered some old playlists of his from his website, and hes played "New Dawn Fades" and "Move" and stuff like that... i gave him a few cds for him to borrow and play on the radio but i havent heard him play anything i gave him yet... its funny, he had a 8 hour show sunday 10pm-monday 6am. i fell asleep around 3am, and he hadnt played anything from me yet.... and go to playlists... also i discovered a phat new radio station. it's Yale's new station on AM. see, they have WYBC 94.3 (the rhythm of the city) which used to play cool music at night, when it was student-directed. but last year they switched to an all rnb format, and it sucked. but they finally got an AM station, so they can play cool music again. 1340 AM. most of the day, they actually dont have any djs around, its like they just play music from a computer or something, but its fucking GREAT music, like Blur and Tricky and Stereolab and Spinanes and Built To Spill and They Might Be Giants and the Pixies and Talvin Singh and others.... i even woke up one mornign, turned it on, and they were playing "Mushroom Compost" by mu-ziq! but next they played Asian Dub Foundation, so i turned it off. ech. im sick of them... what? this is a moby list? okay bye! ps:MAIL SOCKS TO MTV TO GET THEM TO PLAY MORE SIFL & OLLY!!! THIS IS SIFL & OLLY AWARENESS WEEK!!! YOU FORGOT I WAS A NINJA MUTHAFUCKA!!!!! === "BUY MY POTATO POWERED PANTS! SUCKERS!!!!!"-Precious Roy >>>>>>>>>>PAUL<<<<<<<<<< _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 06:09:23 +0100 From: Mark Reed Subject: (mobility) Scala 19-20-May Is anybody going to the Scala show in London on 19th May? - -- Mark Reed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:20:23 -0700 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) Anthem from EIW Is there a CD single of this out there somewhere on this Pale Blue Dot we call a planet?? I love this song and would like to buy the single if it exists. thanks, Jayson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:03:54 -0600 From: Daniel Cerman Subject: (mobility) US single review: Honey and Run On HONEY AND RUN ON (44:41) [11 May 1999] US CD, V2, 63881-27583-2 1 3:27 HONEY (Album Mix) 2 4:48 HONEY (Moby's 118 Mix) 3 6:41 HONEY (Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix) 4 6:21 HONEY (Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix) 5 4:25 RUN ON (extended) 6 6:03 RUN ON (Moby's Young & Funky Mix) 7 5:59 RUN ON (Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix) 8 6:40 MEMORY GOSPEL Here is a run-down of the _Honey and Run On_ CD maxi-single that will be released in the United States in less than two weeks. Steve Giles has already posted a detailed description of its cover art in the Moby fans club on Yahoo, and maybe he'll post it here, too. Below is a track-by-track description of all the songs. This is Moby's first CD single released in the USA since _Bring Back My Happiness_ in 1995, and his first CD with V2 Records. "Honey" and "Run On" were already released as seperate singles by Mute Records. The tracks included on the UK CDs and this CD are different (and good) enough to make it worthwhile to buy them all. With 44 minutes of music, this eight-track CD is a great value, and a good preview of Moby's upcoming album _Play_. HONEY (Album Mix) This is like the UK single version, but just a little bit longer at the end. As the mix name implies, it is the same version that appears on the album _Play_, which will be released on June 1 in the USA, June 7 in Japan, and May 17 everywhere else. HONEY (Moby's 118 Mix) This version is really DJ-friendly. It's faster, more upbeat, with some changes to the piano notes, etc. It was previously only available on UK promo items and the UK limited edition 2x12". A radio edit of this mix is on the UK _Honey Remixes_ CD, but this is the full mix. HONEY (Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix) One of my favorite remixes of "Honey", this lovely track was previously available only on the UK 12". It has a good standard boom-tiss beat with a really nice-sounding (like bright, distorted strings) two-note loop that floats and flits throughout the song. The only thing this remix has in common with the original is some vocal samples that were dropped in. But it's a nice listen/dance. HONEY (Aphrodite & Mickey Finn Mix) This is the drum & bass remix that is on the UK _Honey Remixes_ single. Cool, but not spectacular. Lots of tweaked-up vocal samples and some pianos and strings from the original. This mix has kind of a dark mood, which serves as a good lead-in to "Run On". RUN ON (extended) V2 knows that you can get the original version of "Run On" on the album _Play_, so they don't waste time giving you a radio edit. Instead, you get the full extended version from the UK _Run On Extended_ CD. This starts out with a plain beat (DJ-friendly) and doesn't fade out at the end. Of the five different edits of the original version of "Run On", this is my favorite. Good call, V2. RUN ON (Moby's Young & Funky Mix) Faster, with a funky beat, this remix is well-suited to club play. Moby tosses a salad of vocal sample bits over a 303 (or similar) single-note acid-style bassline. Though it's danceable, there is nothing really special about this forgettable remix. RUN ON (Sharam Jey's Always On The Run Remix) When it started out sounding kind of like a car engine turning over, I thought this remix was going to be miserable. I was dead wrong. It's fantastic! Sharam Jey has done it again with this groovy, funky, infectious remix that packs tons of energy into its medium-tempo package. This is the funk soul brother of Sharam Jey's Sweet Honey Mix. Before being released in the USA, this remix was only available on the German 12" (which I still highly recommend for its other excellent, rare "Run On" remixes). MEMORY GOSPEL This CD maxi-single closes with a reminder that Moby makes great B-side tracks as well. Originally released on the UK _Honey_ CD single, "Memory Gospel" was recently used in a well-known Adidas shoe commercial. Its three-chord string harmony pours out all over a soft snare beat, accompanied by a piano and female vocals (the same "hey"s and "yay"s that are on "Graciosa", I believe). Great instrumental song, filled with introspective emotion. The track time is misprinted as 9:03. It is actually about 6:40. - --- Daniel Cerman http://www.moby.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:34:47 -0700 From: jgmagnus@bkb.com Subject: (mobility) James Bond Single Am I "konichiwa"? Anyway, IMO the James Bond single is no good. I believe there is only one good remix of the 5 that are on there. What's up with that?! I would say just buy ILTS (i like to score) if you do not have that yet since it comes with the Re-version (good version). Maybe I just haven't listened to it enough, but my first impression was disappointment. It sure aint no "Into the Blue" (red version) that's for sure! - Jayson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: (mobility) Re: mobility-digest V1 #381 Author: mobility@lists.xmission.com at INTERNET Date: 04/28/1999 9:06 AM konichiwa, agreed. parties were better in 'the good old days'. much more open mindedness. and I remember far more diversity too. it was at these early 90's parties where I first heard moby, 808 state, RSW, etc. can anyone tell me if the James Bond theme remix cd single is worth buying? welcome, christian. are you in the city? I'm currently living in Marin. jyane, - --andrew _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: christian Subject: (mobility) hi all! oh goodness-so much to respond to! a big THANKS!!!! to all for the kind welcome. i half expected to get my head torn off-but didnt get anything negative at all(yet!)very cool!! hmmm!lets see....yes,the multiple single releases for one song are getting a little out of hand. but we musically obsessed people have to deal with that type of thing. part of it is the import vs. domestic. with many imports having diff songs(or remixes) and occasional imports from different countries(not just uk-i am in usa) having other versions remixes or b-sides-it can get a little out of hand. and if you buy the vinyl versions it gets totally out of hand. another reason is that some artists commision there own singles-bjork would be a good example. she is now doing 3 cd sets for her singles and recently commisioned a 6 12" set her alrm call single. of course with many versions only appearing on the vinyl to give you that added incentive to buy! a third reason is money grubbing record labels lookin for the all mighty dollar. but artists due want there music to reach to public-so it happens. there seems to be a lot of disagreement about run on-just to add my opinion- i like it-but it does take multiple listens to really get into. but both singles do have great extra tracks. and i love honey!! more & more everyday! definetely fuck rolling stone!! and most major publications-and a lot of indie ones!!! dont take what you read at face value-its only an opinion-and alot of times its from people that were paid to give you that opinion. they have no previous experience with the artist(s) they are writing about. i dont want to get too longwinded about this(as you can see i ramble on occasionally)but if other people on this here list would care to conversate about the "mainstream media" i'm game. kohut-your posting is rad!!! beach volleyball in antarctics- i laughed for 5 minutes-really cool to know that there are moby lovers all over the world!! and i play moby(and many types of electronica) for all my friends. it annoys the hell out of some of them!! but a few have been converted over the years(slowly!). all for this one-onto the next. peace. love. christian _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:21:14 +0100 From: Justin Cade Subject: Re: (mobility) Scala 19-20-May Mark Reed wrote: > > Is anybody going to the Scala show in London on 19th May? > -- > Mark Reed I've ordered my tickets for the 19th & the 20th!!!!! (but not received them yet) Justin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:55:25 PDT From: "Michael Matos" Subject: Re: (mobility) fuck rs Paul Simpson wrote: >fuck rolling stone. they may have said EIW is one of the essential >albums, but they said KLF's "Justified And Ancient" was the number 1 >song that they stil cant believe happened. huh???? KLF RULES!!!!!! fuck >them. Think about it--a techno group with a vocal by TAMMY WYNETTE?! That's a weird combination by any standard. I still can't believe it happened! I think you're missing their point--not that the record sucks but that it's just REALLY BIZARRE. of course they didnt say Goldie was essential. then again, theyve >never ever said one good thing about Goldie anyway, so fuck them. They haven't? What about all those complimentary articles they ran when Timeless came out? Or weren't you reading RS at the time? Matos _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:25:30 -0700 (PDT) From: christian Subject: (mobility) re:c is for cookie & mobolity-digest vi #381 jayson- i dont remember the c is for cookie song. but some(many) of those nights are a blur!! don't know of any raves in your area-but i bet there there-dig deep-go to smaller record and clothing stores- a lot have flyers. i would love to go to an east coast party! have only been to west coast parties. why did you stop going ?!?!? andrew-ahh,the good ol' days!! i live in livermore(or livenomore), were i have resided off and on for the last 12 years. i love marin though-anyplace across the san rafael bridge is good with me!! my eventual goal is to move to the north coast-but the job market sucks large!! when did you start going to parties my friend? my first parties were in 90'. i have been told that my first party was an actual break in-but i wasnt aware of such things at the time. all i remember is not being very sober even by the time i reached the line(hallucinagenics by the way)and hearing this incredible pounding four/four beat pouring out of the windows about 15 feet off the ground(south of market sf for you locals)getting inside and seeing all the happy halfnaked dancing people gettin down with no inhabitions. it totally changed me as a person! and i mean that. from that day on i was canged. it was so beautiful-so free!!! the first party i remember going to that had a name was the hig pig spamfest at the once cool dv8(what happened there?). i was totally addicted before i ever went to a full moon party-but that clenched it-free party-AT THE BEACH!! then the really good production companys came along wicked,basics,funkytechnotribe and so on. i couldnt stop. but 92' i was going to 3-4 parties a week. and as the scene took off- more electronic "bands" came around around and i was diggin that too. but the scene changed!! i dont know what happened-and i've thought about it a lot!! too many people coming in too quickly, too much media spotlight. too much comercialism. too many greedy buisness people lookin for the quick buck and not caring that they were ruining what was alreay there. or maybe the blame is to be placed on the rave culture in general. while a lot of us did care about the supposed "issues" that a lot of promoters tried to push on there fliers(homelessness,food drives,enviromental issues)there was just as many(if not more) people there just to get high and dance. and then as our "scene" became a movement(which it already was in england and parts of europe)and more companies began springing up catering to the ravers needs-it was us that supported them-which was one of the main causes for the move to the mainstream from the underground. if no one had given the press all those interviews and if no one had gone to the new "rave" clothing stores(and the many others-trying to type quick) things might be different now-but they may not. becasue you see-i love the music-and i want it readally available to me, and i like somr of the clothes you can get at the "rave specialty shops". so like i said before-i dont know! but by 95' i was only going maybe once a month-and last year i only went to 10 parties(but man the wicked 7 year party was fuckin beautiful!!!!). i will say that towards the end of last year things where lookin a little better around our parts. we're just another sub-culture now. our music has reached all walks of life(moby remaking the james bond theme-endless tv commercials using electronic music-anybody catch the bank of america commercial w/ aphex twin before it was yanked? way cool!!)and for the most part(accept the occasional misunderstanding with the law)we seem to be allowed to just go about our buisness. i still try and stay away from the larger parties. but the sf raves calander http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi has been packed as of late with parties to make ya drool!! i am especially looking forward to DUBTRIBE at 1015 folsom on may 6th(sucks that the free ggp show was cancelled though). so-as usual- i've taken up way too much of everyones time-but hey-free speech and all. hope to see ya around andrew-may even know you!?! peace. love. christian _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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